The Horror Returns - The Action Returns - Ep. #24: Die Hard (1988) & Die Hard 2: Die Harder (1990)

Episode Date: January 16, 2021

This episode Brian and Nez team up with the one and only John McClane in two action packed films, Die Hard and Die Hard 2.    Join The Action Returns Facebook https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns

table next time you have a chance to kill someone don't hesitate to another episode of the actual returns this is episode 24 I'm your host Brian and of course with me as always is Nez what's up man

yo man what's going on I'm just I'm living about all I can say yeah same here Yeah, we might as well let you guys know as well. I guess it was bound to happen. Already a couple of guys in our family here in our podcast family with the horror returns.

Lance got it. His wife got it. Now my wife, she tested positive yesterday and fucking, she's been sick. for a while and she thought it was just a regular cold because she didn't her symptoms were like just like a cold and I don't know what happened she went to work got tested and they told her so they told her to leave and then they called me and said well you better go home too and I'm like fuck I was just off for like a week from being sick and talk to my boss and she was like just to be safe just stay home and and

get through it. She, my boss also had it as well. And she was like, oh, my God. I mean, it just, it's going through everyone. I mean, it's still out there. So everyone just be safe. I mean, my wife, she's as safe as she can be. But I don't know.

You never know where it's going to, where it's going to come from. So. Yeah. It's hard to wash and wipe off everything you, you touch or bring home. I mean, that's what I usually do. If I go to the store, I wipe off stuff before I drink it or open it, need it, and before I put it in the refrigerator and all that. I don't know. We'll see.

I'm hopefully I'm going to be all right. I mean, that's knock on wood. But I think more anxiety, if anything, right now that's bothering me. But we'll see. We'll see, everyone. Just think good thoughts. and I got to keep doing this for you guys every week. So don't be like Lance would be a soldier.

He was sick and still still recorded. So hopefully I'm going to do that. You check out back. Not backlash. The fuck was the pay-per-view called TLC? Yeah, some of it. Not all of it. I watched.

Was it was the women's the first one with Naya and Shana Baisler? and all them? I think so. I don't. Ew. That pay-per-view is so... I don't know. I barely remember anything from it.

Um, no, um... Shit, who started? Wasn't it, um, um,

fucking... God damn it. The champ right now. Um, Drew McIntyre and... Was it AJ Styles? Is that who he wrestled? Yeah.

And then Ms. came in for a minute and wasted his money in the bank. So much love they give you, Ms. Oh, man, he's been the champ too many times, man. He doesn't need it. But, I mean, I thought it was good. I mean, once they started breaking in the ladders and the chairs, I mean, they kept messing up at times, but they were out there doing it. And they were slamming hard on those.

sherrists. I thought at one point, uh, Drew McIntyre was just going to just lay there because he looked like he hit his leg hard on one of those ladders, but I don't know. Okay. Who's the big black dude with, um, AJ? I mean, I'm, I'm in and out on just the regular shows. Uh, I, I don't really know. I just actually watched the video where they were talking about him. I guess he's had three character changes within the past year. Because I think he's a expert. basketball player like from overseas that they signed him to be a wrestler because he's like seven three and i think he i forgot what his first character was but his second one he was like a bouncer when they were doing that raw underground uh and now he's like a j's bodyguard so i don't know

he never does anything but stand around and john morrison man i think they're just bringing him along for uh the miss i'm just like he was fine when he was on his own why don't they have to pair him up with someone but i don't know um i didn't watch all of it i didn't see the last match uh the

the fiend and randy orton no i didn't even watch that one yeah i think the last thing i watched one is that's stupid when i watch my girl the boss which he took on um oscar that was good too

but you knew no no not Oscar I mean because Oscar fought with um the Sasha Banks what's her name? Yeah the Queen of Staten Island Carmella

Yeah but yeah she's getting better I mean you know she was hired for her looks and then that was the one worst reintroduction

that whole thing they did like somebody knew was showing up. Yeah. It was just Carmela. I like her original music. I didn't like this one

and the moonwalk and she still does it. I know Corey's tearing it up. Is he still wrecking it? I think so. I don't know. The other match was Oscar and then

the return of Charlotte Flair she came back and against Naya and um what's her nuts shana basler I'm just never really look at her that much I didn't realize how much junk in the trunk she's got shana oh yeah I wouldn't never pay attention because I mean I like her because she always just goes in and kicks everyone's ass but I was really checking her out this time sorry sorry ladies I'm just the dirty old man but um I'm with that. I'm all about that.

Yeah, I didn't like they, Charlotte comes back and they slap a belt on her right away. Well, she was all in the NXT stuff, right? Why did she go there? I don't know. It was, I felt like they wanted to just slap, slap another belt on her at that time.

What's her name? got screwed in that one, Rhea Ripley. Yeah. They, I don't like when they bring people down to bring them back down to NXT. The whole Finn Baller thing, I mean,

they don't need all these people that are already on the big shows already. I mean, NXT is their own brand. They got their own guys and gals, and they kick ass. They don't need to bring all. all these big names in there just to give that their brand a push. I mean, they don't need it.

I mean, I've always said this. The talent on NXT is a million times better than what's on Raw on SmackDown. I mean, nothing against all of them, but they don't go as hard on those shows. They go hard on the pay-per-views. And then every now and they're on the regular show. But NXT, when it's just regular shows, they go hard. the house shows are hard every time

NXC takeovers they go hell hard I'm like you don't need all these people that are already on the big shows but I guess they need to hire me to let them know that

I mean I'll battle Vince probably won't last very long but I wouldn't let them know I was about to say you know you know where all the ideas come from oh man but I don't know I'm still going to

and finish it. I'm kind of going over. We're getting ready to start. On E Society, we're getting ready to start doing our best of lists and had to watch Roy Rumble. I mean, before everything happened. Man, I should have fucking went to that. Kicking myself when I was watching it.

Because I had a ticket there ready for me. All I had to do was go there and go. But I was like, I don't really want to go. And then. Edge came back and I was like, ah, I should have been there for that. And then the world shut down. I was like, fuck. But yeah, spoiler alert, everyone, that's my number one sport moment of the year,

the return of the rated R superstar. Because I was hyped when that music kicked in. If I was there, I probably would have cried. Because my buddy said, man, I ain't going to kid you, man. I cried. I was like, what? He goes,

it was too emotional. Yeah. All right. Let's get into this first movie tonight. Finishing up the Christmas season with, of course, yes, it is a Christmas movie. They both are Christmas movies.

Die hard. And die hard too, die harder. That's a stupid name. Let's go. Of course, we're going to start with Die Hard. Let's go to Google. New York City policeman John McLean is visiting his estranged wife and two daughters on Christmas Eve. He doesn't go visit them.

He joins her at her, excuse me, he joins her at a holiday party in the headquarters of the Japanese-owned business she works in. But the festivities are interrupted by a group of terrorists who take over the exonerated. exclusive high rise and everyone in it. Very soon, McLean realizes there's no one to save the hostages but him. Okay. Let's go to IMDB. And NYPD officer tries to save his wife and several others taking hostess by German terrorists during a Christmas party at the Nakatomi Plaza in Los Angeles. Were they all German?

I figured they were. I mean, he kind of mentioned that from the German cigarettes and all that. Well, I know. Al Leong wasn't German. No, I think they just, he was a crook for hire. Yeah. Action Returns Hall of Famer, Al Leong. He's been in quite a few movies we talked about.

Did they ever say his name? I mean, he's listed as Ouli, but I don't remember hearing any. one. Honestly, the only thing I remember him doing was getting that candy bar. Well, he had like a line towards the end when they were up on the roof. But I think that was it. All right. Let's see.

Directed by John McTierran, produced by Lawrence Gordon and Joel Silver. Screenplay, excuse me, everybody. Jeb Stewart, Stephen E. DeSouza, starring, let me get to the full list right here. Of course, Bruce Willis is John McLean, Alan Rickman, rest in peace, is Hans Gruber, Alexander Gutinoff, Bonnie Bedella, Reginaldwell Johnson, Paul Gleason, Devereux White, William Arthington, Clarence Gillard, heart buncher and a bunch of other people Al Leone.

Yeah. And oh, what's his name? Another, uh, action returns alumni Robert Davy. Davy, how do you say his last name?

Oh, Agent Johnson. Yeah. Not related to the other Agent Johnson. Yeah. And, um, she's not listed on Wikipedia.

Wasn't a Mary Ellen trainer on here? Oh, she was. she was one of the news ladies. Yeah, rest of peace to her too. She's in the Action Returns Hall of Fame, too. She's been in quite a, quite a bit. Wasn't she in the Lethal Weapon movies? Yeah, she's in all for those.

What's his name? She got killed with a punch in, what was it? Action Jackson. Yeah. I still don't get, well, I got to go back and listen to that. Why was it three hours? All right. What did you think of Die Hard?

Oh, this movie is awesome. This was one of the movies. We went and seen something else. And I remember coming out of the theater, whatever we saw was like, man, that was kind of whack. And it was still a little early in the evening. So, you know what? Let's go see Dyer. That looks cool.

I'm all right. We didn't have no idea what that was. We just went in and sat down and walked out of the theater. Like, oh, my God, that was fucking hell of good. I mean, it was like,

that was so juiced. I was like, man, I went and got my dad and we went back the next day and watched it. And my dad and my brothers, because they were like, well, what's it about?

I said, oh, man, these guys take over this building and that dude for moonlighting. At that time, he was known for moonlighting. I mean, they didn't even want him for this. film because they didn't think he could hold it.

He can, he could be the main, uh, main star, much less be an action star. So I mean, that's at that point in the 80s. I mean, that's all moonlighting is what I remember him from. Yeah, I remember watching this video or not a video. It might have been that thing that was on Netflix. How did, how did the disc get made or movies get made or something? Oh, I remember movies that made us. Yeah.

Yeah. I think they were talking about how they had to change the post. poster because he was on it and people were like the guy from moonlighting is an action movie so they had to change it because of that I mean because we didn't we didn't we didn't really I mean the moonlighting was an okay show I mean it wasn't something I watched every week but I knew what it was and I knew who Bruce Willis was only because of that when did um blind it was a blind date like that one movie he did with Kim basing and was that before this or after

because that's when I was really starting let me see Blind day before Yeah it was the year before because the blind day was 87 All right see I only knew knew him from the from that

As well as moonlighting And I was like Okay cool whatever but then when No way moonlight no yeah moonlighting He was in 95 So but I was like okay he's a comedian and now that's why I was like okay he's an action star right I mean I had no

idea it was gonna be what it was I mean I was just all right okay cool whatever we sat there watched it man as it going I mean once once the action kicked in it didn't stop until the end so I was like man that was hella good I mean this is what in July when this movie came out so we weren't even thinking of the holidays yet when we were right this was a summer Blockbuster. I think it was one of those movies at the time when it came out nobody knew what to expect because they were

dropping movies all summer, especially in 88 because I know Young Guns, the first one came out and we were on a high with that and I can't remember what else came out that summer, but I just remember like, oh man, this was

it was hell of good. It was a change from how I was used to seeing Bruce Willis being just this slap sticky comedy guy and if you guys have seen blind aid that movie was hilarious i know a lot of people don't like kim basing her but i i can deal with her but that movie was hell of funny so i was thinking all right this guy's a comedian and i knew he was a musician and a singer because he had those things on hbio every now and then the return of bruno or whatever his band was called so i wasn't really expecting much so but

man by the time the movie was over and we were walking out of the theater i was like Man, that was hell of good. And to this day, I still cannot remember what we saw. We saw that I guess I'd have to go look to see what was out that week. Because we saw the weekend it came out. So I'm going to have to do my research to see what movies were playing when we went seeing that. Because when we went in and when we snuck in and saw this one, there was hardly anybody in there. So I assume nobody knew what it was yet.

I mean, once it was out, the weekend was over, then it started to get its buzz because then everybody was starting to go see it. Because the second time we went and saw it, it was, there was a ton more people in there. Because we went, it was a Saturday evening. So let's just say around seven or eight, we were sitting there watching this and there was hardly anyone in this, especially for a Saturday night. So, but, I mean, at that time again, nobody knew how big this movie was. was going to be and then it just took off. I mean, this is definitely one of my favorite action films

to watch. I mean, whenever, but I always watch it around now during the holidays. It's one of those movies that I save for the holidays and I don't watch it like all year. I watch the other ones, but this first one is just

didn't really think of it as a Christmas movie until I got older and then was, I remember talking to one of my friends' dads. I think it was like, yeah, man, it goes, that's a Christmas movie. And I was like, okay. That was when I was a teenager. And then ever since then, that's all I saw it at.

I mean, I know there's a lot of arguments on saying, oh, this ain't Christmas movie. It happened on Christmas Eve and went into Christmas when all this was going on. I mean, there's even Christmas music in it and all this. I mean, there's tons of videos on YouTube saying there are arguments that how it's not a Christmas movie. and then there's other videos where they're saying it is. So, but it's during Christmas time. Yeah,

it came out in July, but it happened. Christmas Eve and rolled into Christmas. So there's no way around it saying it's not a Christmas movie. Just because it wasn't all love and singing and all that shit. I mean, I like those movies too. I mean,

not anything bad of those, but this is definitely a holiday classic. And I don't care what anyone says. Well, Well, I'm here to say it is a Christmas movie. It's set during Christmas. There's Christmas decorations in the background. Run DMC's Christmas and Hollis plays in the beginning.

He writes the one terrorist he kills the first one. He writes, Ho Ho Ho on his damn sweatshirt. He even uses Christmas tape to tape the gun to the back of his, to his back that he uses to kill him. people at the end. So the Christmas movie. I got a nitpick about that.

Yeah. All right. Really quick. There's no need to. I mean, you guys should have seen this already. I mean, but if you're listening to us, I'm sure you've seen it already. But if you haven't is streaming on HBO and HBO Max, so have at it.

All right. I even said this the first time we saw this. I mean, he's just no shirt. Hell sweaty and I don't know what kind of Christmas tape that was super duper extra strength there wasn't there be no way that that tape would stick to his body like that so I was kind of like no but it's a movie everyone Christmas miracle even when I watch it now that's the only thing that pops in my head

I just finished watching these both of these films and I was like I just it doesn't stick with me. I mean, that I don't know. It's something stupid to talk about, but I don't know. It just, it bugs me every time I see that scene, but that's me everyone. I'm sure it bugs some of you too, but

yeah. What did you think of Alan Rickman as Hans Gruber? I think he's an iconic villain because he's just he never really loses as cool throughout the movie, and I like that.

that he, I like that everything was planned out to the point where like some of his guys didn't even know what was going on. Like when they were like, oh, he's telling, he's on the, he's on the walkie talk. He's telling all the business, you know, telling the police this and that. And he was all, yes, I know. It's according to plan. You know, he had everything worked out except for, of course, John McLean. But I love the scene where, where he switches accents. when he actually meets John McLean.

And they have that little back and forth there. Would it would like to see. I mean, it's an iconic death, him falling out the window. But I wish he would have done more because it seemed like McLean fought damn near everybody or had bigger moments with like lesser people, lesser terrorists. He had bigger moments. So I wish they would have gave him. Hans, they would have gave him more to do it to end.

But yeah, iconic, iconic character, you know, and I believe this is one of his first major movie roles. This is the first thing I had seen him in. Yeah, he is. He's an iconic bad guy. I mean, when you think of evil bad guys and all these action films, of course, Hans Grew was going to come up in the conversation. So, like, I couldn't even remember.

bring up any of the other dudes in the, how many, is there five movies? Yeah, unfortunately, yeah. Yeah. I don't even remember any of the bad guys. Or, well, Simon and the third one, that was Jeremy Irons, which was Hans Gruber's brother, so I thought that was awesome. But he's the only one you really think. When you think of diehard, I mean, again, five movies, you think of this one,

the Nakatomi building. I mean, I would love to go there because I know they had one time they had a screening for it. Like how they had put up a big screen out in the street and blocked it all off and people came and watched Die Hard. How awesome would that have been to go to, to sit there and watch it. And there's this big building that it all took place on. I mean, that's what I liked about it.

Because it's actually, well, when I went there, it was actually a Fox building. I mean, they're, their offices. were there. So this was 20th century Fox film. So I thought that was cool from a lot of this stuff I learned from that thing on Netflix. If you guys haven't seen the Die Hard episode for the films that made us, definitely watch it. I mean, they really go into a lot of what they did. They talk to the guys that made the film. I don't think they talked to Bruce Willis or anybody. It's mainly all the background people on what they did, the producers and everything to take. get this film made and all the crap they had to go through. Because they said that building, the reason they got to use it, other than it was a Fox building, they were still building it. So they got to go in there and destroy a lot of things because then they just rebuilt it all.

Because I guess whatever it was at that time was it wasn't open yet. So I thought that was really cool. This is Alan Rickman's first feature role. He did a lot of theater. before. I just watched that space one. Galaxy Quest.

Yeah, I just watched that. He's also funny that one. It's also on HBO Max. Yeah, I mean, I didn't see that movie

in the theater. I saw it when everyone was talking about it. Because I mean, I was never really that much of a Tim Allen fan. But one of my friends was like, dude, you got to watch this movie.

It's hell of good. So he let me borrow it on VHS. And I was like, fuck, man. I said, this was hell of good. I love this movie. Yeah, Alan Rickman and that was badass. I mean, I liked him in this, or in that film as well.

But what was his name in the Harry Potter films? Professor Snape. All right. Sounds right to me. It was good to see him in that as well. So I still never seen the very last one yet. I have them all. I just need to sit down and watch it.

But this movie is awesome. I mean, like I said, once the action begins, I mean, it lays the story down for you on who John McLean is and where he's from. It also lays down that you know there's some kind of a little riff in his marriage with his wife because he's a New York cop and she works in L.A. She works for the Nakatomi guy, whatever his first name was. but what did they do? I don't even know what kind of incorporation that was. You know, they never said,

but Mr. Nakatomi or whatever, he was, he had a lot of money. And I don't know, especially, what's his name, that one guy? The fuck is that one guy's name? That was hidden.

Yeah, Ellis. I don't, I don't know what kind of job that he would be doing. I guess some kind of stocks or some. I don't know because Ellis was, Ellis was quite a character in this. Yeah. I didn't.

He was an asshole. And when the boss walks in and sees you sniffing up Coke off the table, that must be a cool boss. I mean, to go, to look the other way when your employees are doing drugs. Yeah. He was a super asshole.

He got that one scene when they're all standing in the room together with Holly and John. And then he's all asked to show him the Rolex. And she's like, no. And he's like, show him the Rolex. A little something we got her. And I'm like looking at Mr. Nakatomi, he's just kind of like shaking his head. I'm like Ellis.

Ellis, he didn't get her that Rolex. Was he trying to get on it? Yes. Definitely. And I figured. I mean, yeah. I mean, like I said, they lay down the, who each player is, who the asshole is, who the boss is, and everyone else before they really dive into it.

Because they're just having a Christmas party. Just one blow out before. I don't know why they're doing a Christmas Eve, but all right. One blowout for the holidays, for they're off for the weekend or whatever. And then we're introduced to John McLean first when he gets off the plane. and we're also introduced to what's this gentleman's name, Devereaux White, Argyle.

Argyle. He is another guy that's also been like a ton of things. I think one of the first things that I saw him and he was a little kid, he was in the Blues Brothers. He had a part with Ray Charles,

but he didn't have any lines. Ray Charles took a few shots at him because he was trying to steal a guitar out of Ray's music exchange. And then I started seeing him pop up here and there Throughout some TV and then this one and he was also I think it was that dope themed and um shit was a movie ice cube and ice tea Yeah, I just got that I haven't watched in a while I need to watch that one again

But he was in that and then a bunch of other things I believe he was also in that the movies that made us I know I remember them talking to him but So yeah, he hooks up with him and he's just taking him there and he just John just unloads his dirty laundry on him telling him not too sure about what's going on with his wife. All right, everyone, really quick. I don't know if I could do that. I mean, I did it a little right before I got my transfer up to Reno. I was gone for almost a year apart away. from my wife because she moved up here to where I live now and I was just waiting for my

transfer and that was hard enough going back and forth much and that was only like a couple hours from each other plane ride not coast to coast John's in New York and Holly's in L.A. And her two kids there'd be no way I would be able to do it something like that. But that's me everyone. So we find out that. and when John hooks up with Holly and she's introduced to everyone or she introduced him to everyone the boss and dumbass Ellis they kind of start that they start doing the talk because at this point

you really don't know what's going on because because she was like well the girls would like you to stay at the house with us and then they get into an argument and I'm like well he was he just going to come and stay in a hotel or I don't know I mean they never really went into the problems other than she

she left New York for her career because I'm sure she got paid more money to work over in L.A. So that was a reason and I'm sure John just couldn't just pack up and move across the country as well but no he gave a good good not excuse

but he said he had a backlog of people he was trying to put away and he couldn't just pick up and leave like that. Yeah. I mean, I mean, especially, I mean,

if he, maybe if he was just a regular little flat foot, and he probably could have did it. But he was a detective. So that would like, like you said, there was no way he could just, all right,

I'm out of here here. I'm going to hand you my cases to the next guy. But so they kind of get into argument. He's like, you know what? Just do what you got to do. I'm going to go party. And this is when we're introduced to,

to Hans Hans and the rest of the the Grover bad guys And that's what I loved about the 80s I mean I've said this before We've been talking about these 80s action films All the bad guys got to have long hair Long flowing blonde or dark hair I mean I liked Carl

Ooh I'm not even going to try to pronounce That last name Alexander something I remember seeing him before I saw him in this film and he was a dancer so yeah I think before he was an actor he was a dancer

because I can't remember where I saw saw him I mean saw him dancing I'm not in person but like on TV because I remember sitting there looking when I first saw this when he came on the screen I was like, where have I seen this guy before? And I was killing me the whole time. And I could picture him dancing, especially when he was fighting, when he was fighting with John, when he does that one jump kick.

And I was like, okay, this guy's a dancer. When I was walking out of the theater, I was telling my buddy's that and some lady behind me, well, yeah, he's a ballet dancer or whatever kind of dancer. I was like, fuck, all right, that's where I seen him. But then, all right, besides, there's nothing to do with the story. But so I thought he was cool as Carl because he was like, Carl. I guess the leader of the bad guys second in command. What was Carl's brother's name?

They list them all. I'm trying to pull it out, right? Carl's brother's name was Tony. Carl and Tony. Okay. they don't sound like German names Carl and Tony Franco

Okay So But yeah I like when they all show up Because that would come in Trenchcoats Everything Long hair

They gotta have The The little nerd guy with them I don't even remember his name But yeah They come in and just Shoot up To kill the security guards

In the front and then they take over the front desk before they start taking over all the, basically the building. The dude that they left at the front desk, that guy, he made it all the way of the end as well. But that guy, he's another one of those that dudes because I remember, he was all clean cut in this, but I remember him in a few other action movies where he looked all rugged. and I remember he looked real rugged in another 48 hours when they got in that big bar fight

with Jack and Eddie Did we do that one or did we just do the first one? Just the first one. Okay. I don't even remember the second one that much. Speaking of Eddie Murphy, did you see the Coming to America trailer? Yeah, I was a little underwhelmed.

I like seeing everybody back but it kind of looked cheap I guess is the word All right I mean I don't think some of those characters

would be around now because that was also an 88 and 20 2021 when this is coming out I don't know but I mean I'll watch it it's going to be on Amazon so yeah

We might throw it on stream fiend since it's going to be streaming. But yeah, I was a little, I was kind of up and down on it. But I have a feeling. I think Wesley might steal the show. I didn't even realize that was him until the second time I watched the trailer. I was like, whoa. But all right, man, it's good. I mean, I haven't seen Arsenio.

I don't know how long since he's been in something. I mean, it was cool that they brought everyone back. I get to see James Earl Jones is going to be in it as well, but it looks like his character passes away. I mean, that's what I got. So I don't know. So once all the bad guys show up, they take over the building.

John is still sitting up in his room. Before he even went in there, he left Argyll. He goes, here, man. Here's my number. Argyll is like, here. Here's my number. If you need me, give me a call. I'm just chill down in the basement in the parking garage in this limo and hang out.

So then there's when Hans and all those guys come in and take over, then they just basically bumrush the party and start taking everyone hostage. In one of the synopsuses you read, you read terrorists. Well, I guess in the beginning they thought they were terrorists, and then they just turned out to be banger robbers, which, I mean, which was cool. I mean, all right, it made you think one thing and it turned out to be something else. Because when they were doing research on Hans, they found out he was a part of, was that a terrorist organization he was a part of?

Yeah, and then they got that scene where he's negotiating the release of his fellow brothers from, I'm assuming they were from different terrorist groups. That was cool. I mean, I like that, how he just started rambling things off, made it all sound all serious. Yeah, he said like one terrorist group and then the, I think Carl was looking at him and then he was just like, I read it and I read them in times. What's his name? Paul Gleason. Let me remember him as the, the, who was he?

the Dean in Breakfast Club. Yeah. And he was, uh, that one guy in trading places that was trying to, uh, he was in that towards the end of the film.

Duane T. Robinson. He was the LAPD deputy deputy chief. Paul Gleason is good and everything. He pops up in. And he popped, did that he played a good role in this. He was a good asshole, uh,

cop. So, I mean, he did his job. Um, so once. the they took over the building

they started shooting John hears and he's like oh fuck he doesn't realize what's happening but he grabs his gun and he kind of runs out to see what's happening and then once all the other guys start searching all the rooms is when John just kind of runs off

and this is one thing that I love the most about this film was he ran around that whole fucking all night fighting for his life with no shoes I just thought that was awesome I don't even like walking around my house with no

shoes much less running and jumping off buildings with no shoes but I thought that was cool I mean I thought that was something not creative but it was it was a good idea to other than he's trying to fight for his life

and all these guys that are shooting at him and bombs are blowing up and everything He's ducking and dodging and fighting everyone with no shoes on. And he killed all kinds of fools. Except that first guy, what's his name? Tony. Yeah, when he killed it. That guy, Tony looked way taller than him.

And I don't know why he had little bitty feet because he couldn't fit his shoes. I was sitting there like, man, I would have cut the toes off and just had my toes hanging out and wore him like flip-flops. but I don't think I ought to be running around. I think it was a little weak. Tony died from falling down like five stairs. Yeah. Nipick on that way. Once he starts running and then Hans and those guys are,

we find, well, we find out what they're doing before when they're trying to break into, into this big vault. Because they, this is when they, when they take out the Nakatomi guy Excuse me

Oh shit His name's not Nakatomi It's a Tagagi What was that his name Yeah Joseph Tagagi Or if I'm pronouncing that right I've been calling him

Mr. Nakatomi That's who I thought he was too I've seen this movie a million times I guess I wasn't paying attention Anyway so I like this scene man Because that dude man He stood his ground

But other than maybe he just didn't know the codes because they needed the code to get into the vault. And he was like, well, I can't tell you. You're just going to have to kill me. And Hans was straight pimped for this. He was like, all right. She just blew his brains out. I was like, damn.

That's when I was like, all right, it's going to be this kind of movie. I didn't realize how shoot him up bloody was going to be. So I was like, okay, cool, man. You blowing someone's head off right in the beginning of the movie? Awesome. Yeah, and that's what makes Hans a good villain because he was just asking him just to see if, you know, they didn't have to put in all that work. But he was ready to shoot him because they planned to put in all that work. So I enjoyed that scene.

Yeah, because it was like, I mean, his plan to do what they were going to do to rob the place and take over the building. I mean, of course, it's always a flawless plan when you're writing it down on paper. But once he gets going, I mean, they didn't know John McLean was going to be there and fuck it all up. But, I mean, I thought it was good on how the plan he had and to where it was like strategic, especially with the time. Okay, well, he had it laid down. We're going to do this, but this might happen. And then this might happen. And everything was going on.

Everything because he was like, oh, just like clockwork, the way things were happening. Like when the cops and everybody showed up. I mean, he was assuming that was going to happen. So, I mean, that that was a good, good planning. I assume it was just him and Carl. But I don't know, Carl just seemed like more of just the muscle here. Yeah. Give you a million dollars and just do what I say.

Carl seemed to want to kill. He seemed angry the entire movie even before John McLean. Yeah, he acted like he didn't even want to be there. I guess he wanted to dance. but once they killed the boss and they were like oh fuck what are we going to do and then this is when um oh because after they shot him they uh john he he he watched them do it so he he was hiding under a table and he tried to run and they heard him so that's when they all go running uh carl and those guys all go running out to go look in in the halls and everything to see if he was there

And then so they do kind of realize that something's happening. Somebody is in the building. So because that's when they sent Tony down to go check it out. And why was he running around with this big bag full of dead natators? Why didn't he just leave him with everyone? I don't know. I don't know, Tony. You fucked up.

So did he specifically go see if he can find McLean? because if so, that really doesn't make sense that he would take all the explosives and detonators with him. Because I don't think they were doing anything on that floor. Because I know they were, when they show them, when they took over the building, all the electronics and everything, he seemed to be one of the, the know-it-all guys.

Because I remember when they were cutting the phone lines and everything, and he was gearing it all up. It's like, okay, there was a purpose for him. Okay, nitpick. Go ahead. Would you get electrocuted or shocked in some way cutting those lines with a chainsaw? You would think, but I don't know.

I'm not electrician. We'd have to ask Phil. Yeah, because there's one scene where they use a chainsaw, and then there's another scene, another guy uses an axe. I'm just like, that seems unsafe. Yeah, I mean, I don't know, especially a chainsaw, I mean, that's steel going through electric wires, unless they were just all phone wires. I mean, they were sparking. So.

I don't know. And, um, shit, I forgot what I was going to say. That was another nitpick, but I'm sure it will come back to me. So when Tony goes in there and looking for him, because he knows he's there, because he's. because he starts talking to him like hey i know you're in here uh once you just come out and then we'll talk and then uh that's when john attacks him because i know he turns on that um little skill saw or whatever and then he he goes over shoots at it and then they start tackling each other um to for the amount of fighting that that john mclean got into man i'm surprised he

was able to walk at the end because he he fought fucking how I don't know how many terrorists throughout this whole movie or robbers because when he tackles Tony and they start throwing each other around then fall down the stairs another nitpick um you know especially when they when they have the stunt doubles the stunt guys to to do all those of the the big stunts for us um especially in this film you can clearly see many times that that's that's not Bruce Willis fighting it's like I know they probably always say try to keep your head looking this way and I'm sure it's hard especially when you're fighting and everything but then there was many times you can clearly see that that wasn't him but nitpick

everyone but yeah like he only fell down like a few stairs and then I assume he broke his neck because he just I mean John John would have he they were both hugging each other as it were rolling down the stairs. So. Yeah. I don't know. Tony, you kind of, your death scene was kind of weak. But I guess it was necessary so McLean could get the detonators

so he would have something to negotiate with. But yeah, I don't. It didn't even look like a because I've fallen before down some stairs and that looked like nothing. Yeah, it didn't. It's not like he picked them up through them

down the stairs. It's like they clearly, a lot of it and then just rolled, but I don't know. Because he had the detonators in it, and I think he had a few blocks of C4 in there. So I assume while all that was going on,

somebody was on the roof going to town with all that, the rest of the C4, but I don't know. They didn't really show any of that. So this is when after he kills him, and then Yeah, shoes don't fit.

He grabs the gun and he grabs the bag. Because then he, is he hiding in the elevator? Yeah, he's hiding in the elevator. Because remember he, that's when he wrote, Ho, Ho, Ho, I got a machine gun now. Yeah. That was when he was sitting in the chair and the elevator because when it opened up, that's when they came in and saw him.

He was, John McLean was hiding up on the top. He was looking down. He was listening to them, but they were speaking German, guess. Yeah. But when he was, he was writing names down on his arm. I think he only wrote Hans and Carl.

That was about it. So, shit, what happened after this? This is when, does some, he has one of the radios and he's trying to, uh,

call 911. But they're, they're not believing him. But they send, uh, this is when we get introduced to, to Reginald Bell Johnson's character. And he's taking a call,

and they're just basically sending them there to see if it's a prank call or not. All I see is Carl Winslow. Yeah. That's all I see. So is he still alive? Oh, yeah. He just did some kind of,

it was like a Christian movie or something. It kind of seemed like straight to, straight to VOD type stuff. Okay. Well, man, you got to work. So, yeah. Yeah, we're introduced to him. Because John was up on the roof.

He went up on the roof. I want to know, were they really shooting the film on the roof of this tall building? Because I don't think I could have. I'm scared of heights. But, I mean, were they really? Really? There's some parts where you can clearly see they weren't up there. But I want to know where they really running around up there on top of this building. I don't remember if they said any of that in that show on it, Netflix.

But when he's up there, he's calling, because he took one of the, he took the radio from Tony. And that's when he started calling, trying to get a whole of the cops. and I don't think those 9-1-1 dispatch ladies or whoever they were, police, I don't think they would be, well, this is a restricting line, get off of it, because from what I understand, you're not supposed to be on those lines.

And one of my buddies's friends, he said he did it by accident because he had some kind of radio. And he said they came instantly. And this, it was like, if you don't get off, get off the radio, we're going to come get you. He was like, he goes, I don't even know how long he was on it, but they like knew where he was. And they came and got him. He didn't get arrested.

And I mean, they took the radio from him. But anyway, so he was calling the cops and arguing with that lady. And then this is when they all come running. Oh, because Hans and the rest of the gang, they could hear him. talking to the cops and they were saying well where could he be be and then they said the roof and that's when that Carl and the rest of the gang all go running up there

and he's still up there and then they just did they start shooting because that's when he's like ah he runs and he goes hiding and that's when they called Carl Carl Carl um Al Powell original

Carl Winslow when they called him and then he goes he walks over because when he gets the call he walks over and looks at the building and I assume you the sound go up because I don't know how come

he didn't hear the gunshots I mean I hear when back in the day man when I heard gunshots blocks and blocks away we can hear it but I don't know I guess you couldn't hear because that was machine gun fire when they were up on the roof it looked cool though because you can see the sparks from the guns

Yeah. And then, yeah, they just, so they were having that shootout up on the roof. That's later when he jumps off. He runs back down, I don't know what floor. He goes back down a few floors because he was waiting. Oh, no, before all that, because remember he pulled the fire alarm? Because he was trying to get the fire trucks and everyone to come. Yeah. But then those guys called and told him it was false. Yeah, because they had the one guy that he wasn't German, was he, the guy that was sitting at the front desk?

No. Okay. They had some Americans. I mean, I think the only main German guys were the dudes that were shooting at him and killing everyone. Because so once he gets back downstairs and he's hiding and he, um, he sees, uh, Carl, Carl, um, Al, there. the cop. He's Carl Winslow, everyone. Anyway, so when Carl Winslow shows up, he's driving around and he goes into the building and he's talking to the dude because, yeah, we got a call and this is going on with that one. None's happening here. We're just hanging out. I'm watching

the game. So he kind of looks around and goes, I fuck this. I'm out. So he leaves and he calls, hey, man, this wild goose chase. Nothing going on down here. Everything's all good. I'm out. So as he's starting to back out, who did he throw out the window? Um, he is, according to this, uh, it's when he gets into the little gun fight with Marco and Heinrich. I'm assuming one of them was the stupid guy that was reloading his gun and trying to say some smart shit when McLean was under the table. Oh, yeah, he was a guy that. Oh, that's right. Because, um, uh, yeah, when John went downstairs into that, um, into that room to look out the windows, those two guys came walking in and then he just turn around, drop your guy. go and drop your guns and then the first dude dropped and the

the blonde guy he looked familiar I know I'd seen him in something else but he didn't last very long in this film because he came around John plugged in that plugged him a couple times and the other dude is the other guy that was arguing or trying to say smart shit he was the one that had the

machine gun because then John was crawling under the table and he was walking along the top trying to thinking he was cute all right first of I mean it was cool I liked the scene

and it was funny how it played out but no way I'm gonna climb up on top of some table if I know someone's on there I'm laying down on the ground

and just lay him down but but then the movie would be over so he gets all the way and he goes you're at a table pal

and then I can't remember what the hell he said something stupid like I think he said next time shoot first or something like that Yeah, and then John just plugged in a couple into him And he goes down and goes thanks for the advice

I was like huh I think he was he threw him out the window Because that's when he goes up and he sees Carl Winslow down there And then he's starting to drive away and they're like fuck So he he grabs that guy He puts him in a chair And then push pushes him out the window So I assume

we don't know how he broke the window because Carl's backing up and then you just see that body come falling and he's crashing into into the car and he's ah he just throws it in reverse and takes off backwards screaming

was McLean shooting at the car too no I think somebody else started shooting out the window okay one of the other bad guys because I was thinking that too I'm like, why the fuck's he shooting at him?

But this, this watch, it was one of the other bad guys that were looking out the window as well. And it was, what's his name from Ghostbusters 2? Oh, that dude. Yeah. That's right. That was him.

Because he was the one that was shooting the missiles or whatever at that little armored tank later on. Yeah. So he goes falling. Ah, I just loved how he just threw it in reverse and was screaming the whole time. And then he goes driving off that little embankment and he crashes his car. And then finally all the police start showing up because he's calling, yeah, and he back up, man, they turn in my car and the Swiss cheese.

Because they had it because they kept open, they opened fire on him. I mean, even after he fell behind that wall, they were still shooting, shooting at him. So all the, um, the police started to show up. And that's what this is, this is when, uh, that reporter got. over here is on the police scanner what's going on and that's how all the the media and everybody show up the hell was his name um his name was richard thornberg yeah he is fucking he was the asshole and ghostbusters yeah the first one the one that dickless he plays that role good there's another typecast guy I mean he's always he's always the the dick

the asshole. Fuck, he was the one. No, that was someone else. I was thinking he was a guy that was in the fly that they threw up on. But I don't think I'm thinking of someone else. Anyway, so the police are finally there.

They're all setting up outside. Again, Hans knew this was going to happen. The police were going to show up. So they're still trying to get into the building. I think we skipped over when they killed Ellis. that idiot yeah um i think it was either before or after all this i can't remember but um

he was finally like you know what i got to go in there and say something because they weren't too sure on what the demise was going to be all the the workers of the hostages so he went in there and tried to smooth talk hans by telling him uh oh no fuck no this is it's later it's later i think it was was after they um they they they shoot that uh the little um armor truck because later you get that because that's when they find out who who he is because it did because after that scene after he threw that one dude out the window um this is like who hey who who who is this and who am i talking to and and that's when he calls him a cowboy and then he does the yippee kaye motherfucker

and all that i was never really satisfied with that line and And I didn't like how he had to work it in in all the movies. Yeah, it's an iconic line. So something's a franchise you've got to work it in. I know. So he's still running around hiding. And he's when he starts talking to Carl Winslow. He starts talking to him on the radio.

Because, yeah, because that's when he was asking him. who he was and then he said that's when he's like well what can I call you and they said you can just call me Roy so because earlier he said he was when he was when McLean was talking to Hans he told him that he was he was fond of Roy Rogers because he called him like cowboy or so I can't remember exactly what he called him but so they kind of got their their little communication going and he was telling them or he was telling Carl on how what was going on and everything from just the little bit that he knew because at this point he really didn't know who Hans and all those guys were

so so they have that going on and then um this is when Ellis tries to negotiate yeah he goes to mediate trying to tell them who uh who uh who uh john was and he basically told him that yeah he's he's

my friend. He was my guest at the party and they kind of gave him the radio here. Talked to him and that's when he started talking to John saying hey yeah buddy just give these guys their detonators and

they'll get out of here. And he goes because you're running around messing up everything and that's when John was like what did you tell them and he told him oh I told you're my friend and we've been friends forever or whatever he was saying and that's when he was like Hans do not listen to the guy I do not know him I just

met him tonight and then Ellis was like oh man why are you saying that after all we've been through I think at this point we knew that he was going to die because I mean Hans he was about business and he wasn't dealing with no bullshit because he already had his gun out just sitting in front of him while he was looking at got Carl and the rest of the guys just hanging out in the background looking at him too. Like they knew he was going to, he was going to get killed. I wish there was,

no, they didn't show it when he got killed. You just heard it. Yeah. Because he pulls out of his gun and that's when the Ellis was like, hey man, what, what are you doing?

Why, why you got your gun out on there? I mean, you knew it was coming. He was just smug and overconfident. He was like, Hans, booby,

come on. I was like, you're talking, you're talking, you're talking to these guys like they ain't terrorists or anything. I'm like, you're going to die. I wish it was to show though, but he

got blasted in the head. And then all that's going on. I mean, the cops are listening to this as well. And because even the deputy chief he was down there going, hey, he just let that guy get killed. And

Carl was telling him like, man, fuck, he goes, there was nothing he can do. Because if he would answer them he'd be dead too and then that because even that deputy chief was like how do you even know who this guy is he could be one of them for all you know and he goes I know he's not

he goes I got a hunch he goes he's he he's a cop and I'm like well how do you know that and he goes just the things he says something the how to spot a phony badge and or phony IDs and stuff like that and then

fucking that deputy chief is like I mean, you know what? He just didn't. It seemed like he just became the deputy chief and he wanted to prove to everyone that he could do it. Because he acted like he didn't know shit. Yeah. Because he got the one scene, like the terrorists are shooting at the window

and Carl's like, or Carl Winslow's like, they're shooting at the lights. And then like he kind of repeats what he says. And he does that a couple times in this movie. Like he really doesn't know what to say or do. And I think at this time is when I mean, all during all this, every now and the day, we're going back and forth to this young black gentleman,

the nerd guy, the tech dude that was trying to figure out the codes on how to open up the safe. Thank you. Was that his name? Okay. So he got some of it open. Okay.

This is my question. He was trying to figure out codes, which he was figuring out. What was the big drill for if he was figuring out codes to open it all up? I don't know. That looked like unnecessary technical stuff. Because he was going through everything, doing whatever hackers do to figure out the codes. And there was time, okay, this code mash. And then part of that lock would unlock.

But then he was still drilling, drilling through. I don't know. I mean, it's, I guess, just something to do with the movie. But they kept going back and forth to him because then he was talking to Hans because Hans was like, well, what's going on? I mean, are you in yet? And he's like, no, man, just a couple more layers to go through and then we'll be all good. So while all the police were outside and everything, this is when they said, all right, bring up the car. And this is when you see this big little small kind of a flatbed looking,

a SUV or look like a little kind of like a Hummer type of thing came rolling up I think it was one of those SWAT vehicles it came riding up well no no no before before that they tried to the SWAT team tried to get in through the front and this is when Al Yong and all those guys were set up down

posted up down in the lobby because when those cops tried to come through this is when they just open fire on all of them and just started letting letting the cops have it they said not to kill them. They said just to wound them to get their point across. So all those dudes, because the guy that was at the front desk, he was one of them, him and Alleyong and Oolie or whatever his name is. And some other dudes down there, they were all shooting those cops that were trying to come in.

And really quick, why didn't they try to come in through multiple sides? They just tried to go come through the front door. but so but so they said they they they shot up those guys those cops are laying they're like ah they're all screaming on the radio this is when they said bring in the car so that's when that thing comes mobbing up the street and this was stupid right here um why did they try to roll right up the stairs when they could easily just rowed up those big grassy hills right up to to the thing apparently this was the swathing teams first day because they go riding up they would have made it but they slam straight into the the arm the armrest the the the rail the handrails

they went straight into that and it stopped them I was like you dummies I mean right on the other side of the other stairs was a little grass hill like it gonna just drove up that but it's a movie so they get they get stopped right there I assume they were trying to go up and rescue those other SWAT guys that were laying there because they all got shot in the legs and they couldn't walk so they were just laying there and then a couple of hounds guys

come around that dude from Ghostbusters too him and some other dude come running in they were like maybe three or four floors up because they broke out the window and they had this big giant missile rocket launcher thing and they like bolted it to the ground and then they just started firing at that truck. They hit it like twice.

And I assume it killed everyone in it because it just that thing was just a big old ball of flame because they had they shot at it twice and they hit it. And that's when John, I don't know how many floors he was up. He seemed like he was not quite the top of the building, but way up there. And he was like,

fuck, so he ran and he got one little block of C4. And he stuck some detonators in it. And then he wrapped it up. to a chair and then he stuck in on that um uh they got that uh computer monitor and then he tied it onto that chair he opened up the um elevator doors and pushed it out and then it just went and as soon as they hit it was like that whole floor just lit up and i don't know what conveniently it was the the floor that they were shooting the missiles at oh i assume it did

I don't know how many elevator shafts are in this building, but I assume the elevator was right there. So I think he just assumed, all right, well, if it stops and hits there, it's going to get them. But I don't know, the blast radius with C4 is, but it was a little bruised like size of a brick. And I've never seen any like in real life,

but I'm just, my knowledge of C4's movies. Because when that they hit, that whole floor blew out, all the windows killed. those two dudes that were in there. And at least it had stopped them shooting because it helped them go up and get those the wounded FBI

or SWI guys that were laying there. Is this when the FBI shows up after this? Yeah, Agent Johnson and Johnson. No relation. No relation. I liked when he was on the phone. Oh, this is Agent Johnson. No, the other one.

Those guys show up and, uh, Again, Hans knew what was going on because he even said, all right. Because when that one Theo guy was pointing them out, he goes, okay, these are the guys that are here to fix the power. And I don't know who these guys in the suits are. And that's when Hans was the FBI. So, and then he said right on time.

So he knew they were going to show up. Well, I figured, of course, they were going to show up if he was talking about terrorist shit. because earlier is when he was telling the deputy chief that he wanted his brothers and his comrades that were all locked up. He wanted them all released. So I guess you got to call in the FBI when stuff like that happens. This next part is a part that I don't understand because Hans is the one that he goes and checks the explosives to make sure they're installed correctly. Because this is how he meets McLean? Oh, that's right.

I don't understand. Why does he go check to see if to detonate or the explosives are installed? Um, I think those guys, he would, some other guys were going to go up and check. But then he was like, you know what, no, you guys go down and deal with, uh, with McLean. I'll go up and check. So that's, I think that was the reason why the guys with the guns went looking for him. So I assume They must have just went to the wrong floor

Because I mean also No no no he was he was already up there He was already up on that floor Because when when Hans came in and was looking around And then when He jumped down And that's when John was standing there And then they started talking him

And he switched up his game And changed his accent He still sounds the same But He didn't have have that accent. Do you think he knew that he was one of the guys? Or was he just like on a hunch maybe? I think he kind of did, but he wasn't sure. That's why he, they had the scene where he gave him an unloaded weapon. I was like, I mean, he didn't even, I mean, that must just

been quick, quickness with the hands. Because you see him take the clip out. And I assume he must switched it up with an empty one and then stuck that in because hans was standing at the right there in front of him watching him do it so but i don't know it was just quick quick with the hands i guess because then he started talking and i mean hans again he was really quick because when he asked him what's your name he said oh my name is clay bill and then that's when the camera pulls up and all right really quick was this like just an uh an office hallway they were in because why would that plaque

with all the names be on there? Because I thought they were up there. I thought they were up there looking where they had all the C4 and everything. I don't know. It's just maybe they left where all the bomb and everything's

were and they went down another hall back out into the regular hall. Yeah, because now I'm thinking about it, that wouldn't be up there because a lot of this building is not even finished. Yeah, so, I don't know. It was there.

It helped with Hans. Because when they were, well, let's go. He handed him that gun and he turned his back and started walking away. And this is when Hans said something in German on the radio. And then he turned around and Hans is pointing the gun at him. There you go, you're pretty tricky with that accent there. And then he starts walking up to him.

then he pulls a trigger because he wanted his detonators. And then he goes, oops. And then he goes, you think I'm fucking stupid? And then he takes the gun away from him. And this is when, uh,

Carl and those guys come running in because then they just start unloading. And then they came up with an elevator because, uh, I think it went dinged. The elevator dinged. And then the doors opened up. And then they came, uh,

piling in and started shooting at them. Yeah. These guys are fritz. And this is lazy riding. because Carl and Tony's last name was Franco, but there is another terrorist whose first name is Franco. We'll be back to our movie in a minute, but first, here's the word from our sponsors.

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Oh, okay. I might be repeating myself, everyone. But, um, uh, so the dudes come, uh, John is having his little, uh, his little meetup with um not clarence barnager um that's a guy from robocop uh what's his face

um as grouber yeah hos grouper i don't know why that name popped in my head clarence barnager have we done that yet Robocop uh we did it

uh for uh on your show when we did that in the the remake oh shit see We did so much of them. We might revisit it. We might go through the series.

Let's just do it two and three. If you guys want to hear about the first one, go find it on ours. But anyway, so, yeah, they're dealing with it. And then this is when they start, John gives Hans a gun. Oh, he calls himself Bill Clay. He gives him a gun. The first time I'd seen this, I didn't really know.

notice him take the clip out. But after watching it over and over again, he did take it out. And I don't know why Hans didn't notice that, especially when he handed it to him. So, because it didn't look like he stuck it back in. But sorry,

everyone, I'm still coughing. What did you think of his American accent? I thought it sounded good, but it still sounded like him. He didn't have the, the accent. Was he supposed to be German?

Uh, think so. So when he handed him the gun and then they started walking and then Hans got on his little radio and I don't know what language he was speaking. And then that's when he turned around and he was, Hans was

pointing the gun at him. And then he was getting ready to shoot him. He was all he pretty tricky with that accent. And then he's pulled the trigger and nothing. Whoops. He took him, you think I'm fucking stupid? And it took the gun away from him. And this is when the door, the bell, the door, the

bell from the elevator went ding and then he turned around look and fucking um carl carl in the gang running out just did you just started gunning up uh again i give it to john man running around this whole time and shooting up and fighting and no shoes i don't even like walking around my house with no shoes but much less running and jumping and all that oh man i would have been my feet would have been killing me by the end of this but then he goes haul and ass into that one room uh this is I love those little hockey pucks. I know I mentioned it earlier because when they start that firefight and they're just blasting everything.

And printers and all that are getting shot up desks. And this is when Hans tells Carl to shoot the glass, but he said it. Shoot the glass. He said it in whatever language. And then I loved that. Carl was like, what? Shoot the glass. And then do, do.

It was like they didn't. speak the same language because he's saying it to him in his language and he's just looking out and I'm like, what? And then he's just like, shoot the glass. I just figured there were two different type of ethnicity. I just figured that was it. They didn't speak the same language. But so they started gunning everything up.

And John, man, I'm surprised no one got glass in the eyes, especially John for just, ah, and all the glass falling all over him. And then when he looks down at the glass and those there's huge shards and he's like, fuck. And then the Carl slides in that hockey puck and I like that part. So they went up and they found the bags of detonators. And then we see John come dragging himself. This part, I was like, oh, my God, the very first time, even the times after when I watched this.

when he drug himself into the bathroom and then you see his feet and that just big old long trail of blood I'm like man I'm surprised he didn't bleed out especially I mean because he was bleeding out of like everything when this was all over so because then he's sitting there pulling the glass and when he pulled that one piece out man it looked huge

and I couldn't imagine running with that big piece of glass yeah he shouldn't have been able to walk after pulling that piece of glass out. Oh, yeah. Because then he started talking to Carl Winslow, Al. And then they kind of told him that story, why, about him not wanting to pull his gun out anymore because he had an accident when he killed a kid. I mean, that's real, though.

I mean, I remember growing up and hearing stories like that. I mean, sometimes you do even today when he said it was dark and had a little. little kid that pulled out a gun on him. It looked like it was real. And he shot him and killed him. And then he was like, because I just couldn't pull my gun out again. So, I mean, that was kind of a sad story. And it's a true story, too, man.

It's happened many times. And it sucks. I mean, that's kind of one of the reasons why they, the kids today for you younger listeners, the guns is you guys, the toy guns are all orange or green or whatever. because back when we were out there doing our thing when we were kids, when they were selling guns, toy guns, they looked like guns. Yeah.

I remember, they were called Tech Somethings. They looked, they were black machine gun, little submachine guns. And they were water guns. And they were like automatic water guns. And you put in batteries, pull a trigger, and shut out water. I remember I had one. I was like, man, this is legit. And then my mom was like, you guys, even my mom then was like, don't run around with those outside.

Because they look real. And I guess after kids were getting shot, that's when they change the color of the guns. Because my buddy, man, he buys those, those guns and he paints them themselves. Kids are going to get killed. What are you doing? But not a funny thing, everyone, but I'm just saying that's what he does. So that's, this is when he, uh, he, he, tells him he can he can when he when he's telling the story and he's trying to think

why was Hans up there and that's when he tells the Carl the hold on man I got to go check something out so he runs back up to the roof to see why Hans was up there and then he climbs up now other than that he just wrapped his feet up with who knows what cloth or something and then he climbed up and that's when he finds the the roof covered with the C4. So, um, okay, no,

he didn't, he didn't go to the roof yet. Because I know, because when he was down there and he got on the radio and he was like, oh, it's a double cross. And then Carl was up there and stuck that, a machine gun to his head.

Uh, I don't know why, I think if he had just shot him right then, that would have been the end of the movie, but, uh, they had to do their, uh,

their fight. I love this scene because it's nothing, but dance moves that Carl is doing the way he kicks. I was like, I still laugh at that. I mean, cool, man. He was a dancer, right on, man. Nothing against that. But he just turned his dance style into fighting.

So I thought that was because his kicks. Those are the ones that were just like so perfect and graceful. And he was beating the shit out of him. Yeah, it was a good mix of styles here. because he was graceful with the kicks and then McLean's just kind of, he's a brawler. I mean, I'm sure everything in his body was hurting

as well as trying to keep the blood in it. But I'm sure his adrenaline was just, uh, fucking just on fire. Because I loved it when he was, when he was punching Carl, goes, this is where your fucking brother was screaming.

And he was beating the shit out of each other. Then he, they grew up on those, those stairs. and he wrapped that chain around Carl's neck and threw him. And there I would have snapped his neck because he went across the whole room on that chain

and then slammed into the wall. And he was hanging there for a while because after that, that's when he, were all the people on the roof when they were fighting? There was, no, that they were,

I think after this is when they start rushing them up to the roof. All right. Oh, no, I mean, I said, no, they were already on the roof. because when he goes up and tries to get everyone to come down and then they all start coming down that they Carl is still hanging there so I think they're already on the roof but yeah you're right

because they're all running and they see him hanging there and they're all screaming yeah but before before I was about to go on to the next scene but the FBI I love this part because also the special agent Johnson and other special agent Johnson no no relationship and they get the helicopters The hughies go flying in there I love this scene Man I've never been in a helicopter And I would love to

But I loved how the helicopters They weren't just flying Nice and straight down the street They were going back and forth And yeah And that one guy was like yeah Just like fucking Saigon Hey Slick

I was in great school you asshole That fool man He's always a bad guy I was surprised he was well He was technically a FBI agent, but he was still a badass, bad guy. What was his name? I don't know, that one guy. Robert Dobby.

Yeah, he was in Raw Deal as well as a 10-hour show, Action Jackson Show, Action Jackson Show. I still need to get that all Blu-ray. So they were in the helicopters, and they were like, hey, man, keep it down because we're just supposed to be transports, not gunships, because they loaded up those helicopters. And then when they go flying up to the top, that's when John runs up there. And he was like, where's Holly? Where's Holly Janaro? And they said, oh, they took her down to the vault. And then he was like, everyone, get down. He was just screaming. Everyone get downstairs. And everyone was looking at him.

Like, what? Then he just started firing in the air. And then they were like, ah, that's when they all started running down. But before he charges in there, he gunned up, what's his name? name. Al Leong. Yeah. He got blasted. I was hoping that he would get a fight scene in this one. But, oh, so he starts shooting. By then the helicopters are up

on top, and they go, we got terrorists up there shooting. And they do, I'll bag that little bastard. And then they just start shooting at him. And he's, ah, he's running. Everyone's running downstairs. And he goes, I'm with you, you assholes. I love to be the way he did it. And then he jumped down.

And he knew that. they were going to blow the roof because then we go down to Hans and the gang and they're still loading up all their gear. They finally got into the vault. And then they were like, Carl, they're like, blow the roof. And they're like, Carl's up there. Because that one guy, because he said, go check on, see what's going on. Because one of the dudes, the guy that was down at the front desk, he goes running out. And he sees all the people coming down.

And he's like, something's going on. They're all coming back down. And that's what Hans says, blow the roof. but Carl's up there. And I was like, blow the roof. And then that's what John was like, fuck.

This is probably like my favorite scene in this movie. I don't know. I don't know what I would have done in this situation. But I mean, I love it. I mean, I can watch the scene over and over and over. But he jumps down and then he grabs the fire hose,

pulls it all out, wraps it around himself, and he's standing up on the edge. First of all, I'm scared of high. There's been no way I could have stood much less just looked over the edge on top of that building. But he climbed up there and he was like, I'm never going to go to the top of a high building again. And I just love him.

What the fuck are you doing, John? And then he was like just fucking. Then he went, ah, I just love how he looks when he just dives off as the roof blows up. I don't know how low those helicopters were, but they were obviously low enough to take the blast. because when the roof blows the explosion hits the helicopters I like what's his name

Paul Gleason the captain or whatever yeah he's like we're gonna we're gonna need more FBI guys I liked how they did that because I was watching the making of it they had to build a big giant model

building to blow up to have the helicopter so I thought that was cool but when it blew up and John dove off he just and then slings down and he's slown I'm surprised he didn't like break his shoulder slam his head onto the window because when he hit the window

man I was I was full force and then he was like ah and I loved how he just pushed his feet back and just d-d-d-d-d-blasted into the to the window and then swung back in and crashed but then for the explosion since it blew up it broke the

little wheel that the hose was on and that flew by I think that would have pulled him out just a little bit quicker Oh yeah I would have pulled him out instantly I don't know how heavy those wheels are But that shit would have pulled him right out But that was a good little scene how he was just trying to untie himself really fast Because that first time I saw it I was like hurry So I thought that was cool

And then uh What did you do after? Okay, the helicopter blew up. He was safe. Everybody on the roof got down. I assume they ran all the way to the bottom. All right. Okay.

We're coming up to the scene where you said you had an issue with. With the tape because John goes, he goes down to the floor. I think they said the 30th floor or something like that, where the vault was. And he goes in there and looks and he's kind of. seized them. But for some reason, there's this work cart with Christmas wrap tape on it. I don't know why, but all right. So again, my issue with this scene, I love it.

It's funny, but as sweaty and bloodies he was, there's no way that tape would have stuck to his body. Because he takes that tape, he sticks that gun. They don't show it, but you just see him. He just comes around the corner screaming. and Hans, and then they turn around and look, and he just beat the hell. I would say if he put a whole bunch of tape, but it's like two pieces. Yeah, that's what I'm like, no. Because he was still all dripping sweat.

And then even if you wiped it all off, the adrenaline that was going through his, through his body, or it just instantly fell off. But it's a movie. We didn't, we didn't, we didn't talk about it. what's his name? What's that guy's name? The smart one, Theo. He tried to get away with the vehicle.

Argyle crashes the limousine into him and gets out and knocks him out. So I guess that was, I guess their getaway vehicle. Well, that's right, because he pulled out that ambulance van out of the back of that truck. And that Argyll slammed into him and then knocked him out. Did you watch the The movies that made us on this one? Yeah I liked it man

I love that series Because they really go into More stuff Not just dealing with the main actor So I really enjoyed that That's how I know they built the The building Sorry excuse me

So yeah he's screaming Hans And he's running up And then everyone's Holly looks over And he goes hi honey And then Hans pulls out Holly and sticks a gun to our head

I can't remember exactly what he said Basically he was getting ready to kill him And the other dude was there The guy that was down the front desk He grabs his gun and they're both standing there And then Hans was like, what did you just say to We're going to say to me and Oh yeah

Yippie Kaye motherfucker and then he was getting ready to shoot him That's when John started laughing And they're like what? laughing everyone's kind of giggling around and that's when the camera goes behind him because John's got his hands on his head and then the camera goes at the back and you see the gun

taped she was sweaty back which I call bullshit on but it's a movie so damn it are people texting me now sorry everyone

it's just Mike said a joke um but so he pulls uh he goes holly and and she kind of just jumps out of way he pulls out his gun, uh, shoots Hans and then blast that other dude in the head or it might be the other. I think he shot the other guy in the head first and then shot, uh, Hans.

Okay. Were they standing by a window? It looked like they were in a hallway. It, I don't know. It's kind of weird because at first it looks like they're not by the window after Hans gets shot like he's falling backwards into a little

all of a sudden. And I like the scene. I don't think the window would just bust like that from him falling backwards. Yeah, I mean, unless the bullet went through him. I mean, unless he got like a running start, but he's just kind of staggering slowly backwards. So I don't know how the window just explodes like that. Yeah, maybe the bullet went through or something. Yeah, we'll go with it.

Yeah, we'll go with it. that so he falls back he's hanging out of the window hanging on to he's still holding on the Holly she's hanging out of the window as well ah and John runs over there and grabs her I love that this this camera shot on how it's looking down and then it starts in slow motion and John just unhooks Holly's watch and then because the way Hans looks over he just looks bad ass the way he looks up and then he's getting about to pull his gun and then first of all

why were you just hanging on to that watch you should have been hanging on to her wrist but he undoes her her wrist watch and he goes ah he goes falling down and I love how they shot these scenes back in the day

when putting obviously it's a fake background but how the camera goes and then I think it goes up the way they shoot those things but he goes falling and was that a real stunt guy that fell it looked like it because it looked like the arms were

flailing yeah it didn't look I think um the way he was falling because he was falling just a little too straight I think he had a like a rig something on him I know he fell he landed on a big air mattress thing or one of those big airbags, but I think he had to have been tied up to something because he was just, he was falling,

but he was still, he wasn't like flipping as he was falling down. So, but that was a good stunt though, man. My hands off to those stuntmen and do those things. And Paul, Paul Gleeson coming again with another comment.

He's just like, man, I hope that's not a hostage. So, yeah, after all that shit, after everything, the building blew up like multiple times,

because they blew up the, roof the helicopter came falling down the side they they they when they blew up uh when he when john put the c4 on the computer and blew that whole floor out i'm surprised that building was still standing but they all come down outside cops everybody news and everybody and the mother are outside and uh i love this did uh holly punch uh the news guy or did yeah i think was yeah i think that was before yeah because he had went to the house

and was interviewing his kids and uh that she had seen that in the TV inside so yeah she ended up punching him in the mouth I know I think it was I think it was afterwards because when they were outside and then uh John sees uh Carl um what's his name

uh Al uh he's sees him and he goes up and them. I love this scene because they just like lock eyes and and he knows that that's Al he was talking to. And then they just kind of start hugging and laughing around. I just love that scene. And then as they're hugging,

oh, this is my wife. And then you just hear people, ah, screaming. And then they turn around. This is when you see Carl. I assume he just came out with all the hostages and he had like a jacket or something over his head. Yeah, he could. I think it was a blanket.

I'm like, you could have got out of there. I know, but he was still out for blood. I mean, because John killed his brother, so I assume he didn't care. So, but then again, I called bullshit on that. I mean, there would have been no way he survived that. I mean, hanging by your neck for who knows how long. He got that dancer strength. He pulls out that big, that machine gun they was holding.

I don't know why it took him so long to pull the trigger. because everyone's screaming, then all of a sudden you're and then Carl goes down. And I love that, how the camera pulls back. You just see the barrel of the gun, and then we see Al's pulling it out. And that's a big gun, too. Those are big slugs in those things.

Yeah, which was a big moment for him because he told that story about shooting a kid. So he hasn't fired his weapon since then. Yeah. I mean, I know a lot of people, oh, man, you saw that coming a mile away. I didn't see it the very first time. I wasn't even expecting.

I thought the movie was awful with. I wasn't expected Carl to come back. So that was a good ending. I loved how they did that. And it was cool, though, like the story that Al said. And then how he never pull out his gun against. It was cool that he did that. So he saved the day for everyone, or for John and his wife.

And then he still had his gun out. And this is when Argyle comes crashing out of the parking lot. He turns around really quick with his gun and juggles. He's with me. I'm surprised that limbo was still working. Yeah. And I don't even think they would have just let him go like that. The FBI is there and everything.

No way you get, there would have been hours and hours before he would have been able to leave. And they probably just took him straight to the hospital because for, fucking bleeding out of his feet and beat the hell but it's a movie and then yeah they get in the car and rio goes man this is how they celebrate christmas i got to be here for new years so and then that's the end and then we we we never see argyll again i don't know man i was kind of hoping he'd come back in one of these movies he came back and then he could have came back in the next one he could been like the cab driver at the airport or something are you gonna uh were they still in

LA at all in any of the other ones uh I know the next one is in Washington I think DC yeah and then they go to New York yeah and I can't remember the fourth one and I know the fifth one they were in what was that were they in L. were they L.A. with that jet? I think so. I think they were in L.A. again for that one. And I know the last one was in Russia. I don't even remember the last one.

You don't need to remember the last one. Wasn't, uh, uh, what was it Elizabeth Winstead or Mary or whatever her name is? Wasn't she his daughter in that one? Or was that in the fourth one? Yeah, the fourth one. She shows up in the fifth one for like a second.

And then, uh, Captain Boomerang is his son. which one is he I can't think of his name now is that the clash of the Titans guy no that's Sam Worthington oh

fuck I can't think of his name see I don't even remember that one and I know everyone hates the fourth one I love that one it was goofy but that I loved it yeah I like that one too it's just that fifth one though man yeah see I don't I have it but I saw it once in the theater and I don't even remember it but what's his name was a good bad guy in the fourth one

Timothy Oafant mm-hmm and hot-ass loose not Lucy Louie McGue I love yeah your wife's plane they're gonna run out a few of the 90 minutes LA cop John McLean is back What are you going to do? Whatever I can. Because old habits. Die hard. We are just up to our neck and terrace again, John.

On July 4th, Die Harder. Bruce Willis, Die Hard 2. Rated R. All right, it's time to get to the sequel, which is Die Hard 2, Die Harder. This came out July 2nd, 1990. This is directed by Rennie Harlan.

Let's go to pull up to cast here I should have had it all ready to go Cast is Bruce Willis Bonnie Bedelia William Arlington Reginald Bell Johnson Franco Nero William Sadler

John Amos Dennis Franz Art Evans Tom Bauer A whole bunch of people that show of Bondi Curtis Hall John Leguizamo The T-1000 Robert Patrick

Bobby from Sonza Anarchy Mark Boom Jr. shows up. I don't even know who he was in this. Yeah. It kind of makes me

want to rewatch it again seeing all these I've seen the T-1000. I've seen when he pulled up because he says something. All right. I was like, I was looking for him

after I read the I saw, everyone that was listed but him. So I don't know who he was. All right. Synopsis. Let's go to Google. A year after his heroics in L.A.

Detective John McLean is mixed up in another terrorist plot this time at Washington-Dulles International Airport, where he is waiting for his wife. That same night, South American Politico and drug profiteer Ramon Esperanza

is arriving in United States. custody, McLean takes action when a treasonous ex-colonel seizes control of the airport, threatening to crash every inbound flight unless Esperanza is free. Let's see what IMDB has to say. Usually they're kind of brief into the point. John McLean attempts to avert a disaster as rogue military operatives seize control of Dallas International Airport in Washington, D.C. straight to the point

IMDB All right, Ness, what did you think? I had seen this numerous times I saw it when it first came out For the longest time, I was thinking this one was my favorite one

Out of the five or however many there is But after this last rewatch, I might still enjoy it, I love it, But I can't go against the original. Original is still my favorite one or is my favorite one so but um watching this just oh sorry everybody got up super early this morning but anyway um watching this at uh i work at airport for for some of you that know and yeah it was different times in the 90s uh pre 9-11 and but then even still the security here

was just like, they didn't give a fuck. You could open any door and go into it. I was like, whoa, we're running security at these airports. So I was, that was making me laugh. So,

but overall, I enjoyed everything that was in it. Just another misadventures of John McLean. I liked everything. I mean, it's weird seeing him in these old movies because he's got hair. But But I mean, that's not taken away from what he does. I mean, he's still that hard-hitting cop.

He was in New York. Then he transferred to L.A., but now he's hanging out for the holidays with his in-laws in D.C. And just chaos happens at the airport, which I think it was, which I enjoyed. I'm glad the airport that I work at doesn't get this busy. I've seen it busy, but not like shoulder to shoulder busy, like how this airport was during the Christmas season. So thankful that I don't see that. So because I couldn't imagine.

I remember going through San Francisco airport, SFO, during the holidays, just to pick up my aunt or somebody was flying in. And I was like, it reminded me of this, because it was just so many people in and out of their crazy traffic. traffic jams in the front. We don't get no snow in the Bay Area, but it was raining. I remember that. I think the snow on top of all that was just another something that he had to get past

during this film. But, I mean, overall, I liked it. All the shoot-em-up action was good. I liked what was going on. Why this, why it happened with the drug dealer guy and the Army dudes and everything, special forces, I assume that's what they were. But I liked it. I thought it was really good.

I mean, the special effects were dealing with the model airplanes. That doesn't hold up because it just looks like models. Nothing against that. This is the pre-CGI era. But I mean, but overall, and I did, I still enjoy this film.

What did you think of it? Yeah, I agree with you on all the action and all the shoot-em-up stuff, but this might kind of be bumped down on my diehard list. This might fall under die-hard with the vengeance. I didn't enjoy it as much on the rewatch as I thought I, as much as I thought I liked it before. Yeah, you're totally correct. It doesn't hold up to the first one. And I, at times, I just kind of felt like this was. a different John McLean because they kind of had him trying to be, I don't know, a little bit more goofy.

Because I just felt like there were scenes where he was something was going on. He was about to fall and he was just like, whoa, whoa. And there was one scene where he comes down and we'll get to that part where he gets ejected out of the airplane and he's coming down in the parachute. And then as he's on the ground, he's like, where's the back door to this? and I don't know. It just kind of felt like they tried to make him have a little bit more humor to his character than he did in the first one. I thought the way he played the character in the first one was perfect. And yeah, honestly, I could have did without the drug kingpin scenario about this.

I would have just liked if it would have just been William Sadler and his little band of ex-military. operatives. But overall, it's a good action movie. It's a pretty decent sequel to a iconic first movie. So I think for the most part, it does its job. Yeah, I mean, I can totally understand what you're saying. But yeah, to me, when I look at this now, I mean, only because I work at an airport. Shout out to all the guys

All the officers Airport police The work at the airport I work at Those guys are always on top of everything And they respond like super quick But then again I work at a much smaller airport Not a big giant one like this one At this airport it's saying

These are just nitpicks everyone This airport seemed like none of those cops Gave a fuck They were just strutting around Drinking and coffee and not even caring I understand As far as like the back part, it only seemed like maybe one person worked back there. I didn't see nobody working luggage or anything.

I seen what there was the two janitors, I think, because there was the one that he meets that the guy thought Bruce Willis was trying to steal his records. And then there was the one black dude that, I guess he was just going off of McLean saying he was a cop and let him in the back. And you didn't see nobody in the back working. Yeah, I mean, I don't know how it is at whatever airport they were at. DC something. I can't remember what they said.

But I work in the bag room, everyone. And again, I'm basing it on the two airports that I worked at. And their bag room, I worked at a much bigger airport in the Bay Area when I first started. But that bag room was crazy. It kind of reminded me of, was it Toy Story 2? when they were jumping around on the conveyor belts so trying to get out of the luggage. It reminded me of that.

Just bag belts going every direction. I was like, maybe that's how it is at this airport, or maybe they just built that for this scene. I was kind of like, wait a minute. Well, yeah, again, nobody was back there. I was like, I mean, that's, you can't do that. We get yelled at if we leave the place empty.

especially something like that, especially because during the holidays, you got to be on top of that shit. You can't just let it, what we did it a few times, just pile up and just try to hurry, but you got to be on top of that stuff because those bags do not stop coming,

especially during the holidays or anything. Yeah, that airport was packed. Yeah, and there's no one in that bag room and then that janitor. And as far as just going up, yeah, I'm a cop. Let me in this door. That had no way that would.

fly. I mean, that's one of the rules they tell us, I mean, if someone comes up to you, say, oh, I need to go back there. I work for the airport or whatever story they make up. I mean, if you do not have a badge for you to even be back there,

don't even bother asking. Again, it's a movie, and it is, security is much tighter now after 9-11, but I was kind of like, oh, man, a hell of people would have been fired. I mean, that guy would have been fired.

That janitor would have been fired instantly if he let someone back there. And I was laughing, especially there was a scene when there was a bag going up the conveyor belt. And there was when he was fighting that one dude. And then he got crushed because that roller. Yeah. That's why I think they just made this for this movie. Or maybe that conveyor belt was for something else and they just threw bags on it. No way that thing, that little roller thing would be on there.

Much less crushing bags like that. No, I don't think so. But it's a movie. I wouldn't be saying, though, that all this if I didn't forget at an airport. I was kind of like, oh, man, what's going on here? No matter how many times I've seen this movie, I must just forget. I must just forget because that was the first thing that popped in my head when I saw that. I was like, wait, I don't even remember that.

but I was like, no. Yeah. And, you know, that's one thing I can say about this, honestly say about this movie. It's really not that memorable like the first one is. Oh, yeah. I mean, this one, I mean, uh, holidays, he's supposed to pick up his wife. She was coming back from, I don't know where. And, uh, or I assume that she, oh, he flew out there first.

And then I guess she, he, was working up some stuff at work and then she was coming because uh john and the kids were already at his in-laws already so because i mean just he just pops right up there it's very confusing because in the first one she lives in l.A he's the new york cop coming to l.A. and this one he's now an l.A. cop but he's meeting his wife in d.C. and i'm just like where do you live now? Who lives where? I don't know.

I assume he, I mean, he said he was L.A. cop, so I assume he transferred over there to, to be with his wife and the kids. But I love my,

my mother-in-law, but if my wife isn't with me, I'm not going over there, uh, with the kids by myself, first of all. But, um, I mean,

so when, when he gets there, I mean, it's just craziness at the airport. I mean, that fuck, other than it was snow. and the traffic is just crazy.

I have seen it like that at the bigger airport I worked at when I first started. And I was kind of like, at first of all, you cannot leave your car. Well, he did, but then he got towed. So I guess that was his fault. I've seen many cars get towed for people that just think they can leave it there and run inside. Now that doesn't work. So don't ever do that, ladies and gentlemen. So, but then when he comes.

Because then he, the beeper thing, I mean, that shows the date for this. For some of you younger listeners, we didn't always have cell phones. I mean, and the cell phones we did have way back then were like a hundred pound bricks. So there was no way. The good old Zach Morris phone. Yeah. So they had those little thing called beepers. Did you ever have one?

Oh, yeah. Didn't need one. Shouldn't have had one. But I had one. I never had it. perpetrating one that was just there and was never hooked up. But

my buddy cracked it open, took everything out, and then we had our stuff in it. But anyway, that was a different time, everyone. Yeah, I mean, okay, another little nitpick that I caught

him in this round. He gets a beep, he runs and finds a phone really quick, and turns out it's his wife. Because he calls it and it goes, uh, who, who just beat me? And he goes, oh, it's your wife. And like, oh, hey, where are you? Are you here yet? No. And she goes, we're in the, the new age. There's phones on the airplanes. Um, the airplanes that I, that I work around, they, I remember they did have, uh, phones on the seats, but that was a long time. Those, those are long gone now. But, um, I do not think you could call. those phones on the plane.

Because he just dialed the number and then she answered it. I'm like, no. Yeah, because nowadays, I can't even get the Wi-Fi to work on the plane. On our planes are pretty good. I mean, if you have an iPhone, it definitely works good. But I think you can download some app in order to text and all that because I found that out when I was able to fly before all this happened. and one of them. But yeah, you can text if you got an iPhone.

Oh, sweet. So I'm glad that I could do that because usually it's just dead until I hit the ground. But yeah, I was right there. I was like, no. And those phones, when you called from the airplane were like a million dollars a second. Yeah. So. But then again, I don't remember what she did for the Nakatomi Corporation.

But I don't assume she's at the top now. Because the people that had it were dead now. Yeah, she was second in command because when Hans asked her, who put you in charge? He goes, you did when you killed my boss. So, all right, well, I guess she can make a pretty good penny. And I don't know how much police make. But so anyway, so that's a situation between them two.

And then we're introduced to William Sandler's character, Stuart. it and I don't know why he was butt naked, uh, doing karate or whatever. Doing them doing that Miyagi dough. Yeah. Um, yeah, I got it was coming, everyone. Next, next, next show. But then, um, so I, yeah, I didn't understand that, but he was watching. They were talking about the, uh, what was the, the dude's name, the Esperanza?

Yeah, they were talking about him saying he was just, he was some big drug dealer, general or whatever he was and they were supposed to bring him to America for some trial for whatever reason I can't remember and it was gonna he was gonna do was he coming to yeah he was come

wait was he coming to DC to yeah okay he was coming to stand I'm reading it right here come to the United States to stand trial on drug traffic and charges all right

So that was, see, he was watching that. So he turned it off. He geared up. He grabs all his junk. He steps out of his room. And this is when we see his whole gang. Don Harvey. That guy's always a bad guy in everything.

Did you see that movie Casualties of War? It was him, Sean Penn. And, um, Marty McFline. Yeah. Yeah, a while ago. He was an asshole on that, too, man. I mean, every movie I've seen him in. I guess what's doing his job.

So. He was there, a meat from Porky's, a T-1,000, and a bunch of other dudes. There was another guy, a younger guy. I seen him in a bunch of movies. It was probably those teen movies. He was never really like the main star. He was like maybe one of the jock boys or something, but he was there and then a bunch of other faces that, oh, it's that guy. All these action movies and 80s and early 90s are full of those that guys.

We've said that many times on all these shows we've done, but there was a bunch of guys in there. You knew who you were because you'd seen them and a ton of other movies. There was no Asian guys in this one. It was only what's his name? Al Young in the first one. So they could have got somebody else. Somebody, one of them. So they're all gearing up getting ready.

We go back to the airport. John is still trying to figure out what's going on. He's walking around. I know because he was sitting down. And then he had noticed. he bumped into what's his name to Stuart William Sandler's character

And he looked at him and he was like hey You look for me and I get that a lot So he was like All right whatever so he didn't really think nothing of it Other than all the people in the airport The news is there Because they know that that big drug dealer guy Was coming

So They're just trying to figure out what's going on I think what was the news reporters now Samantha Coleman played by Sheila McCarthy Yes

She's another one of those Oh I've seen her in a billion movies So She sees Stewart Was he Colonel or General? I can't remember What?

Colonel Okay Colonel So she sees him And she says Did I get two words for me? He goes yeah Fucking you That was my favorite line

In the whole movie We have Saddler's raw If you guys haven't seen VFW you definitely check that out it's streaming on amazon awesome film um so that that there's getting uh stewart and all his gang or setting up in the airport uh trying to just figure out what before they before they strike john is sitting there looking around he noticed uh some of um steward's men just uh sitting around carrying things and but he's i i'm not a cop um the cops

that i know i always ask him do you guys sit there and analyze everything. He goes, one of my buddies, he said he always did. And when he was a cop, he's retired now. But I see, you lucky bastard, I wish I could retire. But anyway. Did he always have

a hunch? Because that's what they always have in a movie. No. He goes, but you, your eyes are always open, man. You're a cop 247. Even when you retire, he says he still notices things. I was like, man, calm down.

But so he, John is saying anything. That's why I'm laughing about the security in this airport. Because you've got to be on top of that shit. Even when there's hardly anybody in the airport, you still need to be on top and be ready. It seems like nobody gave a fuck. And these soldier guys were all walking around.

So, he noticed that two guys was a white guy. I remember who the white guy is, but the black guy was, what's his name from? Bondi Curtis Hall. Yeah. Coming to America, one of the royal citizens of Zamunda. He was the one that ran up to him.

I cannot believe it. Oh, at the basketball game? Yeah. I love that movie. Did you get that still book? Oh, yeah. I haven't yet. I'm just going to pull the trigger.

Fuck it. But anyway. So he sees them. He goes back there. This is when he goes up to the janitor. And he goes, hey, can you let me in this door and then he kind of just shows he shows badge or just his ID I don't remember he flashed

a badge he goes yeah can you open this door and he went oh yeah sure dude no no way it doesn't matter apparently there's no cops around because he tells him to go get a cop and then he he just like looks around like damn I don't know where to go like he just like I don't know because I when I you know especially well I don't know about back then I don't really remember flying much back then but nowadays like there's police everywhere and depending on what's going on in the world there might be some military there but according to this movie nobody works in the back you can't find a cop

anywhere and you just need to ask the janitor if you can have access to something yeah so that janitor lets him in he goes back there he starts looking around crazy bag belts every direct everywhere you look I was just like no but then again everyone maybe it's like that

at this airport I don't know I'm just the two airports that I worked at no anyway so he's looking around he sees the two guys

they're messing around with a control box and he kind of goes hey uh got ID or whatever he said to him he shows his badge and this is when the firefight

starts another thing I guess the bullets were ricocheted in there because when they were firing man especially everything at our airport it's all metal and I'm sure if you shoot those bullets would be bouncing all

over the place but he gets into it with the white dude and he starts beating his ass and then he ends up dropping his gun as well as his badge and the black dude took off and then

no before he took off because he was also shooting at him but then when when John was beating up the white dude. I mean, he was whooping his ass. But I don't know, man,

jumping all over that thing. That was funny, too, when they were jumping from bill to belt. I don't crawl on those things. I mean, that's not my job. At the first airport I worked at,

when bags got jammed in there, they made us, or they didn't make us, but we just crawled up in there. But there's a lot of little watch your finger things in there. So I'm like, no, thank you.

I ain't crawling on those things anymore. Anyway, so when, he gets the best of the of the white dude and then this is the thing that made me laugh because when he goes up he basically

doesn't knock him out but knocked him to where he's laying down but when he gets to the top is that big excuse me that big roller that was crushing bags I was like okay but so his head went into that and

he got smashed but then he jumped off and then he ran after a black dude and that black guy just took off. But by then, here finally, the police show up, the airport police. They come jumping in freeze and I'm a cop, but he doesn't have his badge.

And, oh, where's your badge? I think it's going to Cleveland's. And then they take him up to the police station and the airport, and this is when he's introduced to Dennis Franz, Carmine Lorenzo. I like him in every. everything. Even when he was on, what cop show was he on?

It was something big. L.A. PD Blue or something like that. Anyway. Yeah, that sounds right. He's introduced to him and he's trying to tell him they find John's badge and his gun and everything, so they give it back to him. And he's trying to tell him that something's going on, but nobody wants to listen. See, that's how lax these cops were. Like, I mean, they all knew this guy was coming in. But then John, for some reason, knew, knows everything. Of course, he saw it on TV just as much as everyone else when he was sitting around waiting. But he was trying to tell them what was happening and they didn't believe him and all that.

So they're like, oh, man, whatever. Well, did he do the same thing again? Like he saw the IDs and said they were fake? I don't know. No, no, no, he didn't. Because remember, before he went up to the police station, at airport police station, I guess they gave him his gun and everything back and then when they were bagging up the body he ran and got his fingerprints yeah from the from the stiff and then this is when he goes and before he went up to the to the police station he um he uh he sent the fingerprints uh facts to uh what's his nuts um Al.

Powell. Reginald Val Johnson from the first film. Yeah. And I have to point out we get another lady that gives John McLean

the, I want to fuck you eyes. Just like the stewardess in the first movie and just he constantly gets these eyes throughout the movie or series. He still got it.

So he, when he's, And this is another thing that made me laugh. He was like, first of all, I wouldn't go as far as calling it a federal offense. But if you're reaching over, I need this and I need that. There's no way that would happen. They would call it cops on you quick. But that was he grabbed.

But then again, these are different times. He grabbed a little stamper pad before you stamp. I guess you did stamp things back then. I don't know. Everything's all computerized right now. So that's when he ran and got the fingerprints off. the stiff and then he runs back in. He calls up Al and then goes,

hey man, I'm sending you. These prints, can you run them? Maybe in the 90s or 80, late 80s when they filmed this, they had fax machines right there at the counter, but I doubt it. So, he put it, yeah,

can you fax this to this number? She went, yeah, sure. And that's when he was clicking around his wedding rink. She wanted the D. But so Al was like, all right, he does what he does it was good to see him though I was kind of

hoping he would pop up in there he never he never came back in any the other ones did he no he should have they had a they should have had a movie where they teamed up yeah that would have been cool I mean even if he just did a cameo

and popped in for a second that would have been good one of those especially in that one when they were in L.A. with the jet and everything but so he said to him he figures out I think that's when he got it back and he found out because that's when he went up to the to the police station when we're introduced to

Carmine Lorenzo and then when he was trying to tell him look man this is fake this fake this guy's dead he must have died twice because they when he ran his name it came up this whoever the name was on there was dead already so it's like no man and and then the car man's like no no you're fucking stupid get the fuck out of my airport and he goes no man he goes we got like the world's biggest drug dealer come in here there's something going down he's trying to tell them but they're not having it so he's like man you they just get out of here so he's still trying to figure out no why he was up there is when they um uh they took over the airport because earlier um uh two guys I think it was

2 1,000 and I want to say meat I'm not sure meat from Porkies uh Tony Gondon I don't know I said his last thing his name was Baker in this. You guys know who meat is. You know what I'm talking about. I mean, you know, because they went to that church and blasted, killed that dude that was in there and then just took over the church and then they set up

camp there with all their gear in order to take over the airport because I guess it was close to some kind of transponder there over there. They hooked into all that. That's how they were able to take over the airport because when they were, when John was yelling back and forth with Lorenzo,

that's when all the power went out on the runway all the lights went out and they were like what's happening goes we'll turn on the the power grader turn turn turn on turn switch over to emergency power and they're like we can't man we can't control anything because all the lights on and everything computers and all that were on in the tower he goes we're on the same grid man he goes how come that we're on and all that went off and that's when they got the call from stewart and told them that they were taken over the airport if you try to radio any of the airplanes we're going to do something so and they were like all right whatever so the this is one what's his name art Evans Barnes was young then but a young black

gentleman was telling him that they couldn't do anything at this point because they had control the airport but he was the one luckily he was the one to figure out hey man all we got to do is go do this to the new terminal where everything's hooked up, but I mean, nothing was running yet. We can go over there and do that. I mean, that was another thing. How come he was the only one that knew that? Nobody else in that whole airport

knew. And what's his nuts? The asshole boss, Tom Bauer. I think he passed, I think. He was Marvin. He's, that's another guy. He was always an asshole in everything. I remember he was

asshole in the line of fire. He was the one the head of the secret service, I think, and he was the one that was always given Clint East with shit. But anyway, and I think he was something to do with political stuff, like in real life, because I remember seeing his picture and video in the news and everything. I said, I mean, I thought he was just an actor, but

I guess you guys start somewhere. Yeah. So he was telling everyone, because he was like, well, fuck, what are we going to do? And then that's when they figured out that they were going to go over to the new terminal and patching some stuff over there. Then they'd start to be able to. They'll be able to talk to the planes and start landing them. Because the only one that was able to talk to the planes was Stuart and all his crew. Because they had a full computer setup in that church.

So I think this was one of my favorite parts is when what was the guys named, Barnes, him. and I guess some of the SWAT team from the airport. I assume big giant airports have SWAT teams. I mean, I've seen our guys in action. I mean, they're not shoot them up action or anything, but when any president came to town, we were all on lockdown. Nobody can go outside when the president shows up.

President and vice president. when they show up in Air Force 1 or whatever Air Force 2 whatever the vice president flies around him when they show up nobody can go outside they the the area where we're around the planes is all locked down because there's military police everybody are there so we can't go out there until he is off the plane in his limo and off the the grounds so anyway so they they had the SWAT team go with Barnes to that at a terminal

John wanted to go but then that's when they were telling him nah man you this is none of your business you're nothing here you get the fuck out of here so yeah which is weird because they know him from the Nakatomi thing

so I don't know why you wouldn't want to include him in something like this well I guess you can't just invite police officers that don't work there. I don't know. I mean, the janitor invited him in the back. So it's kind of loose at this airport.

So how did he get up into the air ducts? Did he? I can't remember. Was it when he went through the elevator? Oh, that's right. Okay. So he was. Is this one he, oh, yeah, he was with Samantha, that news lady.

Yeah, he's not supposed to be escorted out of there. Somehow she got to the tower. And that's another thing. I mean, security to that. No. There's no way you could get up to that thing. I mean, so. Because she just popped up in there, hey, and they're like, no, you get out of here.

That's when they kicked her and McLean out. Yeah, this movie's full. Lies. So that's when he'd crawl out of the elevator and then started crawling around through the air ducts. And he must have crawled a long way. And that's where I'm like, no, man, he would have missed that firefight completely because I don't know how fast he was crawling. But he crawled all the way over there to wherever that new terminal was. Because when they were about to show up there, you can see this is where T-1000 was.

he was there what's his name uh fuck Robert Patrick yeah he was there and some other guys oh it's that those those type of guys

they were acting like they were workers working on uh that that terminal because you see the SWAT team and you see Barnes carrying a suitcase with I assume radio equipment and then they just see them there they stopped the uh the little conveyor belt those little people mover things

they stopped that and they're like hey what are you doing and then this is when the firefight starts and they just T-1000 and the gang just open up on those SWAT team and pretty much take everyone out luckily John got there in time to join in on the fight because he comes busting out of the air ducts and just starts taking out bad guys so um I think they dusted all of them but I think some of them got away they did kill a few they killed all the SWAT guys. The only ones left was John and Barnes. And then

they were about to go to that other transponder that was there so they can talk to the planes. But that thing blew up. So they're like, fuck, what are we going to do? So, but because before the, the firefight started, I can't remember which one of them called Stewart and said, yeah, there's some guys

coming with SWAT team. And that says, oh, they're right on time. So, and they were, they were ahead of the game the whole time, so they knew to be ready for stuff. So they blew that up. There went that plan. They didn't want to know what to do.

Stewart got mad. Look, man, you guys, I tell you guys not to play games. Just for that, here's a penalty. And what they did, I'm not really sure how the whole system works talking to the airplanes, but they, again, early late 80s, early 90s, the computer technology is just, it isn't the greatest, just a black screen and green lines. But whatever they did, they gave that airplane different coordinates. Instead, I think they erased it by like 200 feet.

So they moved it to where the plane, they got the coordinates on wind of land. and they were off by 200 feet. So when that plane came in, they were like, fuck, man, they're going to crash the planes. So John ran out onto the jetway, onto the runway with some sticks and some,

with cloth wrapped around. He dumped gas on it, and he was trying to just wave so the plane could see him. I've never flown. I mean, I've never flew a plane, but I'm going to call bullshit on. this too but because the way the plane was coming in yes it was snowing super hard and you're

you're you're you're depending on your my friends of pilots i guess i should talk to them they're they're they fly for us shout out to you chris right on brother um uh before the plane crash you can see it coming in like how when you're coming in for landing the nose is up and then you're coming down uh but then when they they show the plane in the cockpit, man, they were like coming in nose first. I was like, no. I was like, so what do you do? Just tilt forward?

I was like, no. But yeah, now that you're bringing it up, man, it, it's kind of ridiculous. I mean, it's a it's a good thing to not a good thing to happen. It's it's a right thing to happen for you to hate William Sadler's character for doing such a horrible thing, but the way they did it, it sure was like he, was the pilot was purposely going straight down into into the ground. Yeah. I mean, usually the pilots that I have talked to, they said when you can't see anything like

how these guys couldn't see, he goes, you don't try to land. He goes, you got to at least visually see the runway. You don't just, fuck it. No, you have to see it. But that was another thing. when when when mclean is out there waving uh his his fiery sticks i don't know where that light was coming from but you can clay was super bright and you could see the runway so but a movie everyone so uh the plane just overshoots john and then

just goes nose first into the ground um that's fucked up i don't want i don't want to i don't ever want to see anything like that and i don't want to be on one of those planes but that plane jump. Just slam me around. And they, they put the extras into it. They let you know that there was the elderly people on this plane, children.

It was kind of rough. The pilot was that one asshole from, um, con air. The dude that was a, oh, the guy with the, the guy,

his, uh, his little sports car smashed up. Yeah. Yeah. He was the pilot. Um, that,

that's his real accent. So, I mean, that guy's tricky. He's just like Hans, man. He's tricky with that accent. So that was really him talking that way. So I thought that was cool. But anyway, so the plane crashes.

John's like he's out there on the runway crying. I mean, there was nothing that he tried to, but there was nothing they can do. I mean, but that was pretty fucking ruthless, though, changing the coordinates and making that plane crash. I mean, that was just because they tried to, because he told him, don't try to. try to radio anyone

and they tried and they paid the penalty so he's like fuck so oh he went back excuse me back to the airport because I remember he's sitting there looking all sad and everybody was still trying to figure out what was going on um

what happened after that I think this is when John Amos's character Major Grant and his special forces is called in. Okay. How did he end up in the tunnel system or whatever with that one guy?

I don't remember how to get in there. I think Stuart told him about it and then he went down there. And then that's when he ran into the janitor who thought he was trying to steal his records. Because apparently the janitor lives there for some reason. And that's another thing. Um, excuse me, at the two airports that, that I've worked at, I don't know if there's underground tunnels under the, under the runways and everything. Maybe there is. I don't know.

But I guess I just started asking some of the, some of the police I know at the airport is there tunnels under here. Yeah. And is there, do you guys have a hobo for a janitor? fucking lives down there with his record collection. And it was, I didn't understand why they made him like the janitor. He could have just been some guy that just stays down there.

Yeah, I don't know. I assume he was the one just, they fixed all the lights and pipes and everything that were down there, but I don't know. But then another thing, I don't know why there were steamy and all that down there. I'm like, what are you doing? Where are all these pipes going to?

It's besides us a point everybody. So, because yeah, he was down there and now that's when the uh the uh the general or colonel or whatever his Esperanza his plane was coming in because he had told them look man we're going to light up a runway uh Stuart told him we're going to light up this runway and if you guys try to land anything you you already know what we can do so I advise you not to tell anyone he goes we're going to light up this one and then the plane's going to come down uh Esperanza was on this military plane and he took out the guard or whatever

the mill. That looked like, well, there was a three dude other than Esperanza, there was only three people on the plane. One dude to guard him and then the pilot and the co-pilot. That's not happening for a major United States trials going down for a drug king pen. You're not going to have like three guys on him. No, they would have had a full plane of military dudes after him. but movie everyone

so he ends up killing the guard that was watching him he goes into the cop pick and uh trying to tell the pilot to uh land at these coordinates and then he's like oh I can't do that and then he kills the the co-pilot and then he puts the gun on him

goes well if you kill me who's gonna land a plane and he blows his brains out and he jumps in the seat but by then I think they were uh he I don't know what happened it's something I can't remember exactly But he was like, I can't land at that runway, man.

I got to land now. So he was like, oh, so he just lands. Okay, like, how come he can land this plane and this snowstorm with no runway lights and everything? But these big jet liners are crashing. Movie, everyone. So because John's like when he's talking to the hobo guy in the tunnels of the airport, he asked him, he's like, look, man, how do I get over to this runway? And then he's like, ah, and then he goes over to his maps and figures it out.

Why does he have all these maps and blueprints? To help John, man. Oh, wow, okay. If he wasn't there, he wouldn't have nowhere to go. Because when John was running around before he got, he found that guy, he was looking at some. I think Barnes drew something for him to try to help him out, but John couldn't figure it out because he was looking all over the place. Like, why, what? And he was, what did he say?

something like, we're just up to our fucking eyeball eyeballs and terrorists again, John, and then he goes running away. I remember that was in one of the trailers or teasers or whatever. I don't remember what I saw, but I remember when they showed that and then they showed John, well, they didn't know it was John McLean. And Bruce Willis running up to the camera. And then he said, John. And I went, oh, shit, they would die hard too whenever it came out.

So I was like, oh, shit, that's when I was hyped. anyway. So he figures out which runway Esperanza is coming in on and he runs through the tunnels and gets the big, goes up the little ladder to the grate that goes on to the runway. All right. Here's another thing. I don't know. We're not allowed near the runway. But I do not think there's the little drainage things there. I don't know. I could be wrong. Maybe there is. Maybe there is. I don't know. There's these painted lines out there that we can't pass. So I don't even try.

I don't get hit by an airplane. But, yeah, so he climbs up that ladder because he sees the plane coming in. And he's like, if you can't open it high enough for you to crawl out, man, I'll just, all right. I'll just let that plane land, then crawl out. But then you needed some little suspense in the film. Because once he gets out, he opens it a little, you see the plane already landing. And here it comes rolling straight at him. He's got his head out.

Then he's bringing his arms hell of slow. I was like, no, I think he went to ran him over. But he makes it out just in time before the plane comes. All right. Another thing right here I call bullshit on that little grate that he lifted up to get out was facing the airplane. I could understand if it was the other way, and the airplane could have just rolled right over and I would have shut. That plane would have something or stopped and caught a wheel. but movie everyone.

So anyway, so John jumps out of the way, the plane stops, Esperanza comes out. What did he say? What did he say? I don't know. He said something. No, he said freedom or I'm free or something like that. And then John just knocks him, not yet. It's like, fuck.

So he kind of jams him into the airplane. And here comes Stewart in the gang. They all come showing up. How did Esperanza get out? Did they just start shooting? Yeah, they started shooting, and I think he jumped out, and then they were, that's when they, what did they do to blow up the plane? That's when we get the scene from the trailer when he ejects and the plane explodes,

and he's flying through there. When they started shooting, I think he, John shot Esperanza in the arm, and then he jumped out. And then Stuart and the gang. Oh, they threw grenades. Yeah, because he was like, McLean, he goes, I take it. You're the one that's in there. And because they started shooting up the plane.

They filled it up the cop who were holes and shot out all the windows. And then they were like, all right, this is another thing I got called bullshit on. They started throwing grenades in the window. That first one would have blew up. I don't, again, never been in the military. I've never been in ground grenades or throw any of them. But I'm pretty sure you only got. got a few seconds, man.

Those, that must have gave him like a movie grenades. Easily 30 seconds. And I think they blow up way before that. But I do love this part. This is like my favorite thing.

It kind of reminded me of the big thing when he jumped off the top of the building. He jumps in the seat and then is there a ejector seats in these big planes? I don't know. So he jumps in there.

The cockpit is filling up with grenades and they should have went off by them but he straps in and then pulls the ejector switch and when he goes shooting out of the top the plane blows up when he's come flying straight to the camera I love it because the way he comes out the camera

is like ah and then he starts to fall backwards and it's like oh shit and then the parachute opens up so Stewart and then we're like all right man fuck him let's go we got what we wanted and they end up taking off.

Then I, fuck. Does he go back to the airport? Yeah, he goes back and then this is when they get the, no, I think they find out where the church is. And they go to the church and that's when John Amos's character comes in and he knows all about McLean and all this stuff. And you kind of can tell what's going to happen here with John Amos. Because I think he goes back to the airport and lets him know that he got away because I think he goes back to that hobo in the tunnels. And that's when they go hauling ass back to the police station in the airport. And then that's when John Amos, what's his name in Good Times?

Oh, James Evans, Sr. here when he shows up and they're like, all right, he's yeah, he doesn't, he knows McLean. He's kind of telling him, all right, man, we're here, we got this. I know who this dude is, so don't worry about it. I know how he operates. So we're all good here.

So, all right. So, yeah, I get, oh, Barnes was the one that figured out about the church. Yeah. And the, in the respondent of the thing that was over there. Because they end up going over there. And that's when they had the, the big firefight, which I thought was cool, because when they roll up the John Amos, Grant, when they show up, one of the guys hit a tripwire, and the alarms went

off inside the church, and they're like, all right, man, we got to go. We got someone outside, so they all start loading up their weapons. What I liked about this, I didn't catch it the very first time I saw it, but when they go, all right, and then everyone, like, gets their ammo clips, and they pull it out, flip it over, and shove it back in. And I didn't notice the red and the blue tape on those things. So they just, they see all the guys outside. So they just start unloading on the dudes, on the, the military guys that are outside.

And there's a big huge firefight. John is, oh, no, I think, was it right before they start firing? John, he got to the church first. Because this is when he killed meat with the, with the ice sickle, when he jammed. in his eye. Yeah. So when the firefight happened,

that's when everybody escaped on those snowmobiles. Yeah, because when they were all shooting up and then they all ended up taken off,

John went, jumped on, he killed one of the dudes and then took his, or he shot him, and that guy fell off of his snowmobile. He jumped on

and went haul and a half after Stewart and everyone. So when Barnes and the guys and John Don Amos and them all rolled into their church. Barnes was like, hey, man, we can use all this and we can start laying into the planes. And then they're like, hold on a minute.

And they started looking around. That's when they noticed that Stewart and the gang put C4 bombs under all the terminals. And like, this place is rigged below, man. We're going to get out of here. So everyone just took off. Did it end up blown up the church? I can't remember. I just know McLean is chasing them on the snow machines.

And he, that's when he finds out that the guns were loaded with blanks. That's right. Because when one was passing him, it was like right in front of him when he started shooting it. And then he even looked at it like, what? And they ended up shooting him, or not him personally, but they shot his little snowmobile and it blew up when he tried to jump it. So they just figured, ah, he's dead. Let's go.

So everyone, Stuart and the gang took off. John comes running back And he's like I had him in my sights I know I did and he looked at And he pulled out the clip And looked at it And then he's like fuck

So he ended up After everyone jumped in the In the trucks and took off He goes back to the airport And he comes charging into the police station And he's trying to tell them man He goes they got away and all this And this is when

Lorenzo started screaming out And arrest this man get him the fuck out of here. And John was just trying to tell him what was going on. He goes, it was the setup. And then that's when he pulls out that machine gun and just starts firing at Lorenzo. And he's like, ah, this is another thing I call bullshit on. Immediately once you start firing, I think all those cops that were with the in that vicinity or in that room or hallway, they would have all open firing on him.

Because everyone had their guns pulled out. Yeah, it's like we said, this is a very lax. Airport. Because once he stopped shooting and Lorenzo was like, okay, I'm still alive. Everybody had their guns out pointing at John and nobody took a shot. But then the movie would have been over. So he pulls out. He goes, that's what they were firing out here.

These were blanks. And then I like this part. Lorenzo was like, all right, I want everybody suited up full gear down the motor pool. It's time for us to kick ass. And then he shoves in his clip. Oh, this is when he came. riding up with the with the hobo guy in the little, in the little police, or the little go cart, because they all go loading up and he goes, just like Iwo Jima.

And then everyone goes hauling ass. This is when we go to Grant, John Amos, and him and his gang. They kind of mentioned some earlier. One of their guys couldn't show up, so they had to find a replacement, some young kids, because they're all sitting in the back of this truck. and they're like, oh, man, they were talking about the old days. Oh, I remember when we did this and that or wherever they were? And that one guy was like, oh, yeah, I wish I was there.

And then Stewart, Grant's like, yeah, I wish you were too. He pulls out his knife and just slits that guy's throat. And I mean, these guys must be super ruthless because no one even like flinched. They all just looked at it. All right, whatever. So because John figured out that Grant and those guys were all in on it, that they were apart. of stewards gang to get Esperanza out of,

I assume out of the country. So, um, I mean, and while all this is going on down the ground, airplanes are circling around in the air. Bonnie Bidilia, John's wife, Holly, she's flying around in one of the planes. And, uh, what's his name, Thornburg, William Atherton, the asshole from the first one that she clocked in, uh, the news guy. Yeah.

He figured out what was going on because it was him and his one, I guess his cameraman or whatever. He had a little device that he was able to listen to the cockpit. So, nitpick. Can you bring all that equipment onto the plane like that? I think you can bring that. But then again, they said they were trying. They said they was trying to make him check it in. So that told me he couldn't.

but he still did. This is the most lax. Come on. If somebody works at Dallas International Airport, let us know what really goes on. Yeah, and you have to have been there in the 90s when everything was different.

Again, I don't know. That's not my department, but even if they wanted him to check it, you have to check it. Because you still got to go back through security. And there's no way you're getting that little. Yeah, wasn't as big as maybe the size of a book, but there's no way you can get that through

the metal detector, much less the little x-ray machines that you got to put your carry-ons on. I don't know what he did, but however he did it. Yeah, he was able to get that on the plane. But that's how they figured out while the planes were circling around and they were listening to all the radio chatter about Stewart and everyone else. So they, or no, what's his name? He ended up, I can't remember what he did, but Barnes was able to talk to the airplanes. And he told them that, oh, no, no, it was a, because when the Thornburg's guy was trying to figure out what was going on, all he kept hearing was some kind of radio beacon.

So whatever that channel, the radio beacon was on, that was how they were able to talk, to. the airplanes without Stewart and them hearing. So because he had told them, he explained the situation that there was terrorists on the ground. They took the airport hostage and everything so we can't land anything. So that's when they were trying to tell them.

And while the planes were circling around, they were saying, we're running out of gas, man. Because the other way, we got to start landing. Yeah, I hope Barnes got promoted after this. Yeah, man, something. So, that John,

they all figured it out and then Stewart and Grant and all their soldiers ended up getting, they got an airplane somehow, I assume just took one of the ones that were at the airport. Luckily there was a big giant,

I don't know if it was a 747 or whatever it was. Luckily there was that just sitting around. Yeah, it says it was. It kind of seemed like it was a cargo plane because it didn't look like a regular airline in the inside. Because they loaded up all the

all the gang and everyone, and they were going to take off at Esperanza, so they were going to fly, who knows where, and just live happily ever after. But John goes, he's still trying to figure, how the fuck am I going to do it? And this is when he's talking to Samantha,

and they found out that they got a news helicopter. Luckily, that news helicopter was there at the airport with him. So they jump in that, and they go flying after him. And the plane is still on the ground. flies over he goes man no way he goes can you just get in front of it and stop that plane he goes I ain't stopping that and he goes ah well just get me over the wing so he hovered over the wing and John jumped out and he shoved his jacket or his coat into one of the flaps so the pilot

was like man I can't take off man there's something going on so that's when they looked at the window and they saw something jammed in the flaps so Stewart no what's his name went out there first grant he went out there John Amos he went out there and got into some little hand-to-hand action with John. All right, another thing. Other than snowing, I'm sure that wings, that, another nitpick, if that plane was just sitting there waiting for who knows what,

if it was in a hang, was it in a hangar? I can't remember or not. When he got on the plane? I think it was. I think it was in a hangar because I was just about to say, if that plane was sitting outside, you'd have to de-ice that thing and everything to make sure. Because if you don't de-ice those planes that are sitting on the ground, it's bad news.

So I think it was in a hangar because right now I'm picturing a hangar open up and the plane coming out of it. So never mind, no de-icing is needed because there's no ice or anything on the plane. So that's when it goes hauling down the runway. I was just about to say, man, that wing should have been slick and slippery. but it was nice and dry. So I liked with them when they were getting into a fight. And then so there was a Grant, John got the best of him,

and Grant fell over and was hanging over one of the engines on the wing. All right, another nitpick. When those planes are taxing down, just taxiing, not on the runway. Those engines are going full speed. I mean, I don't remember how many. engines were on that plane and maybe two big ones uh maybe four i don't know but no you're not those those engines aren't just idling the way that one because when the camera showed up

it was like the propeller or the little blades that are in the engine were just barely spinning i was like no but that that's nitpick everyone because if you because he was hung there for a minute and if that that engine should have been going full speed he would have got sucked in instantly he wouldn't have hung there for a few seconds. So he flew in the engine and got diced up and shot out the back. But then that's when Stewart comes out. And they get into a karate match. He pulled out a big knife on him, didn't he?

Yeah. Because I think he sliced up John a couple times. And then, shit, how did he kill him? Let me see. I got to you knock them into the the engine? No Grant got knocked in the engine

Oh, you're talking about Stewart? Yeah. They did the thing that I hate that do in movies because McLean had opened the fuel hatch. Because John got knocked off the wing and he was kind of hanging under it and then he opened up the

fuel hatch and yeah and then they did the he put the the lighter on the little stream of fuel and it just exploded the plane, which I have a problem with this. You, I don't think it would happen like that, but the thing that really bothers me is him and McLean did not have a showdown. I don't understand.

What was that? Not a long one. I mean, they took a few punches before John fell off the plane. Yeah, they needed a. I just felt like a knockout. I mean, he had a longer fight with the ballet dancer Carl in the first one. And in this one, they, for some reason, we have to know that Stewart can do naked cada in the beginning and flexing his ass muscles. And so I always felt like they should have had some kind of fight because they're kind of teasing you that that Stewart knows martial arts and stuff like that.

And we just didn't get it. Because, I mean, this is another thing I'm calling bullshit on. I watch fuelers put fuel into those planes. I don't think there's, as far as I know, I could be wrong. No one quote me on it, but as far as just an emergency drain, like how he just opened it up and the fuel started pouring out. Again, I don't know. this is just me. I've seen many planes get field. I don't know if there's something

where you can just open it up and start letting it fall out. Yeah, because I mean, like when you go gas your car, you don't open the you don't take the cap off and gas shoots out. Yeah, so I mean, I don't know. I mean, I could be wrong. Maybe

one of you guys are fuelers, one of you guys are gals, are fuelers that fuel the airplanes. I don't know, but I'm just going on what I've seen. So, We need answers. So, shit, if my buddy was away, I could have text him.

He used to fuel the planes. But anyway, he opens it up, gas starts pouring out. He falls off the wing. And then that's when the plane rolls up. Stewart jumps back in the plane thinking everything's all fine and dandy. And then everybody's on the plane smoking cigars. The plane's about to take off. John pulls out his lighter, a zipple or whatever.

and yippie a cayet motherfucker and throws his thing on to the to the gas and then it lights up and goes shooting down the runway I guess it could have went right up into the wing I mean yeah gas is falling but

it shoots and the flames go right into the gas tank or into the engine and the old thing blows up and it's like a cartoon almost evil is punished and another thing

another thing. It picked right here. Yeah, yeah, the plane is blowing up and everything, but I don't know how long gas burns, especially like that. But it made a long, and I don't know how long it was either, but it made a long

fire line that the airlines could see. And they're like, because a lot of them were like, man, we got a land or we're going to crash because we're running out of gas and they see it. They're like, hey, man, there's a light. Come on. Come around. So all the planes are coming in right after another. So, because they all see it and everyone was like, yeah, they can use the flames for for lights.

So all the planes start landing. So everybody lands all the planes, Holly planes lands good. She ends up falling, jumping off. Oh, really quick before. When Thornberg was, when he found out what was happening, he recorded all the, the radio chatter that was going on with the tower and everything. and that's when he got a hold of his news network and he was going live talking about what was happening. He doesn't know if they're going to survive this. Luckily, the news TVs were on in the airplane and Holly went and saw it.

Another nitpick. I don't know how security was and all that in 89, probably when this happened. But I'm pretty sure you couldn't bring on a taser gun onto the airplane because, Holly's the old lady sitting next to her and she had one like a stun gun or whatever and I was like I mean there's no way you can bring those on the plane now but again this airport is pretty lax on what you can bring and what you can't bring on the airplane I mean that's another nitpick why how come he can't bring on his little radio equipment

that's not a weapon but you can bring a clear weapon onto the plane. I don't know everybody. So she, because they find out he's in the bathroom talking to the news network and they opened it, open the door and Holly zaps him with the stun day and he gets knocked out. All right. Flash forward. Plains are all on the ground. Everybody's coming out through the emergency slides. I like how they threw him down.

He was still knocked out and they just threw him down. Down the slide. He came sliding down. Luckily, he stopped. I thought he would have just shut. shot right off and landed onto the runway. But he's there and John sees Holly and she's like, why is this always happening? And then this is when the hobo guy comes rolling up in his little golf cart.

And then the movie's over. All right. Last nitpick, everyone. The camera pulls back. You see all the planes on the ground. The way they were all just, they must have just landed and parked in E.O.8. No way that would happen. that would pretty much, once you got onto the runway,

you're going to roll and roll out of the way, get off the runway so the next plane could come in. It seems like they just stopped, didn't even roll off, didn't even get into the taxiway, and then just started letting everyone off. And I don't know how many planes are on the ground, but I was like, no, but a movie. Anything goes at this airport.

Yeah, if you fly into Dallas International, just remember anything goes in security. is lax there, but all the nitpicks and everything, I mean, laughing around and everything, it still doesn't take it away. This is an awesome film. Evil is punished for the

time being, and I liked all the fighting, the gun fights and all that, and crazy off-the-wall action. Well, we got all that in the first film, so it's not like they kind of stepped it up a little in this one with the action and everything. But overall, again,

I do enjoy this film. I watch it from time to time. And I think it's the first time we ever covered it on anything I've done. But, yeah, if I have to grade the first one, that's a 10 right out the game. Yeah. This one, I'll give it an 8. I enjoy it. And 8 is a high score, but I'll give it that, 8.

Yeah, I can see that. The first one's a definite 10. This is a classic, outright class. classic Christmas movie, everybody. This one, I'll go a little bit lower than you and give it at 7.5. I would have liked to see more with William Sadler's character and a little less of the comedy little remarks John McClain was doing. I kind of wanted him to be more like he was in the first movie. But overall, the good action movie.

I know we nitpicked the second one a whole bunch, but that's what we do. But it's definitely a must watch if you're a fan of the franchise or a fan of the first one and never seen any of the other ones. Yeah. Shout out to Tom Bauer. He was the hobo guy, Marvin, that worked in the airport. He's the real MVP. I got new everything.

Him and what was the other guy, Barnes? Yeah. Yeah, they need to run that airport. Yeah, give those two guys a race. But yeah, again, awesome film. I loved it. Yeah, we nitpicked it and talked all kinds of crazy shit about it, but it's still a good movie.

I loved it. Oh, yeah, this one was Die Hard 2, Die Harder. So, all right. Yeah, I don't like that name. I didn't either. Just Die Hard, too. Yeah. A lot of movies.

Looks like he's still directing something called The Misfits. I guess the last thing he did came out in 2019. Bodies at Rest. I never even heard of that. I guess he's got something coming out pretty soon. Ooh, I don't even know how to pronounce this. Lou Oka Kocas 3? I don't know what that.

I'm sure I'm saying that wrong. All right. Looks like a Finland. comedy. All right. So I didn't even know there was a one in two. So, but that's what he's doing. But if I have to pick a favorite movie, Rennie Harlan directed, I will go. Not Nightmare on Elstreetown Dreammaster. Garbage. Cliffanger, we did. We enjoyed that one. I hated Cutthroat Island. Long Kiss, Good Night was cool.

The Christmas movie. I did enjoy Exorcist at the beginning. I know a lot of people didn't. 12 rounds was cool. That one with John Cena. But I am going to go with my favorite Rennie Harlan fan would be Deep Blue Sea. Came out in 1999 with the great ladies love, L.L. Cool J.

I thought it was cool. The second Punisher. Damn it, what's his name? Thomas Jane Yeah Thomas Jane He was the second punisher Original Punisher is Dolph Longwood

I haven't seen Deep Blue C in a long time Oh shit I forgot Michael Rapaport was in that Yeah Crazy movie you guys ever seen it Yeah I think I would go with I gotta go with Cliffhanger Because you can't

You can't avalanche and cold weather Can't beat Stallone no it can no jacket no no beanie nothing nope but at least had his gloves on did you see 12 rounds

I like that one the first one yeah yeah I've seen it not that one with um what's the name the viper randy or yeah I tried I say yeah I'm good

I think I just yeah he's he's he's I don't think he's meant to have a film career no from what I understand I heard it was supposed to be CMP

punk but then all that stuff happened with him so he couldn't uh he vince and no so i'm gonna make a prediction right here see i'm punk will be back 2021 i don't know where but he will be back 2021 uh if he does if you guys listen to what's her name ren young show he would come back if the money was right and there's audience. He said he wouldn't come back if there's not an audience. Which I understand because I think he would want that pop. I know there's a lot of CM Punk fans and I know there's a lot of people that hate him.

Because back, man. I'll be screaming for him. First live show, WWE does in Chicago. that's when you that's when you debut them so every time there's a Chicago show you guys better buy be it live show pay-per-view he would come out of a paper view i don't think he would just do a house show but i don't know we'll see but all right everyone that is die hard and die hard to die harder Brian what we got what do we got next what do we got next we are celebrating the awesome show cobra kai

by jumping in a deep dive into the Karate Kid franchise. So our next episode, we are doing the first two movies. After that, we're doing part three. And we got to do it, Nez. It's canon, the next Karate Kid. And then the third show, we're going to go through three seasons of Kovir Kai. All right. The next Karate Kid.

All right. Got to do it. Got to do it. I'll save it for that show everyone. So be sure to tune in to all of those. Yeah, I guess that's it. No. Anything else?

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