The Horror Returns - The Action Returns - Ep. #28: Class Of 1984 (1982)

Episode Date: March 1, 2021

This episode Brian and Nez attend Lincoln High School to see what more mischief Stegman and the gang can get into in the 1982 cult classic CLASS OF 1984.   Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns 

Your lessons. Mommy didn't like you very much. Lay off me. Lay off me, stand in the area. Shut up, you son of a bitch. You ever come here again, and I'll kill you. I swear it. You're mine, asshole.

All mine. I am the future. You hear that? I am the future. Last year, there were 280,000 incidents of violence by students against teachers and their classmates in American High School. Unfortunately, this film is based on true events.

Fortunately, very few high schools are like Lincoln High yet. Everybody, we are finally back with another episode of the Action Returns. I'm your host, Brian. And with me, as always, is a man that does not take no shit from no high school kid. My brother, Nez, what's up, man? Yo, man Just glad to Get back to this

Man, it's been Been a minute for us everyone Sorry about that Just life gets in the way But we're back Everything going good with you? Yeah Everything is

Good as it can be Just gonna Help my son move From his apartment to a new one So About all what's happening here just work and warmed up a little but it's still cold at night yeah i don't know what you guys consider cold but it's it's actually warming up up here too so because we was we was in the

negatives for a minute uh is that's not nice up here well we haven't hit any of that yet so hopefully we don't yeah hopefully you don't get like texas it's uh Winter storm down there. Yeah, I had to check on some of my friends and family down there. They had the Internet went out. That was about it. But they're good. Power and water and all that.

I think it like maybe flick it off and came right back on. But they're doing all right. But yeah, I mean, not too much. I know Brother Philip and brother. Lance had some little issues, but they seem to be all right. Yeah, we, we, uh, we had a minute there. We thought we was going to miss a week on an episode, but, uh, we finally knocked it out and gave you two episodes, uh, that weekend.

So, um, I was going to say, let's do wrestling returns, but, uh, we got a request to, uh, get that on the next episode of the, the horror returns. Uh, Tim Davis said, last episode was good, but it was lacking wrestling returns. So we'll save that for the horror returns. All right. Because you know Lance loves when we do the wrestling returns. All right.

Yeah, I was going to bring that up. But yeah, man, we could save it. All right. Let's get into this 1982 cult classic class in 1984. Action, crime, drama. Class of 1984. Life is pain. Pain is everything.

He's got to stop this insanity. If they are the future, who will stop them? Class of 1984, rated R. IMDB synopsis says, A new teacher at a troubled inner-city high school soon finds or soon ends up clashing with delinquent leader of a punk posse that runs the school. All right. What does Google say?

Google's coming with the simple one this time. A high school music teacher hunts a hoodlum student for attacking his wife. That's it. That's not even, well, it's like part of the movie. This was directed by Mark Lester and co-written by Mark Lester and Tom Holland. This film stars Perry King, Mary Lynn Ross, Timothy Van Patten, Lisa Lang Lois, Stefan Arngren, Michael Fox. He was not Michael J. Foxx yet.

and Roddy McDowell Nez When was the first time you watched class at 1984? Yeah, I'm the old man of the bunch. I saw this one was brand new in the theater. I know we always go to poster art and looking at it at the movie theater around the corner from my house and just seeing punk rockers.

I was like, oh man, this sounds good. I mean, I think I was in sixth grade at the time because I was class in 1984. I wasn't as cool as these guys. But I was like, all right, cool, man. I want to see this. It was rated R. So there was no way I was able to just walk right in. I went seeing something else, which I cannot remember.

And I snuck into the next theater just so I could see this. I know the first time I missed Maybe the first half hour of it I had to sit through another move Oh, excuse me Oh man I'm stuck in my throat But I'll edit this hold on

Fuck Yeah I snuck in And saw this and then Missed the first half hour so I had to sit through it whatever the second movie was for me to see it again and I finally saw the beginning

of what I missed and I thought this movie was awesome I mean for what it was especially for the time because I was always talk about school violence I was in elementary at the time so they're really

not that I can remember that there was school violence but I mean, nothing to the measure of what was going on in this film, especially junior high and high school. I mean, there was always fights and stuff like that, but never anything like this. I know the junior high school across the street from my house, there was somebody brought a gun to school because a buddy of mine,

he was there when it happened. I don't think anyone was shot or anything. but whoever had the gun did let off around and everybody went running and everything. So that was as close as it got to as a skull gun violence in our neighborhood. But I didn't go to that junior high and went to another one. But watching this film as a little 6th grader, basically, I was just like, wow. I mean, but I never thought to myself that it was cool to be like these guys, to be like Stegman. and his gang.

I mean, I saw the wrong because in the neighborhood I grew up, man, there was drugs and violence and everything all over the place. And I was always one of those kids

that seen that and would go the other way or not be involved in it. I mean, my friends, they fell into a lot of that type of stuff and some of them are not with us anymore. But just

taking the movie for what it was. I mean, because at the very beginning of the film, they kind of, they go into talking about violence within the schools and that teachers are not basically arming themselves. Because if you watch the making of this on the shell factory edition, they talked to the director, and he goes into it. And he had to do a lot of research on stuff that was going on in schools and talking to police officers that had to go to some schools, whether it was violence and everything. So he really did his homework and his research before he tackled this project. So, I mean, I really love this film. And I thought all the acting in it was good. Stegman, what the hell was his name?

Something, Van Patten. Timothy. Yeah, I thought he was awesome. He's been in some other things in his younger years. And I think he retired for Macney and then he stepped behind the camera and became a director. So I'm looking at it right here. He's directed episodes of Perry Mason, Boardwalk Empire, Black Mirror, Deadwood, Game of Thrones, Sopranos, Sex in the City, The Wire. Yeah, he's done a lot

I mean, I think I mean, I don't even remember the last thing I seen him in Well, I think there was a show in the 80s called The Master With Le Van Cleef and they were like ninjas It was goofy, but it was what it was But his gang, the big guy I can't remember his name, I think, but I remember he was fake in that

Bill Murray movie Meatballs. So I remember that. Plus, he was in My Bloody Valentine. He was one of the guys in the film. The Stephen, I think Stephen or Stephen Ingram or whatever his name was, he had been in a bunch of things. And I think he's still acting. One of the 80s cheesy horror films, there was a film called,

damn, what was it? Fear No Evil, I believe. He was like the son of Satan or something. I mean, it's a goofy movie, but if you guys know what I'm talking about, you've seen it. But I remember him from that. And then I had totally forgot he was in class of 1984. But overall, I mean, I've seen this movie, I don't know, countless times in the theater. And then when it came on, like, late at night on, like, USA's Up All Night with Rhonda or Gilbert Godfrey.

I watched it. Yeah, I was all cut up and everything. But then once it hit VHS, I had it and DVD and the Shout Factory put it out on Blu-ray. I was hoping that they would make a steelbook, but I don't know. But any of you Shout Factory guys are listening, please make this into a steelbook so I can get it. But the movie is awesome. Can't really say much for the wasn't really a direct sequel, Class of 1999. We'll get to that next time.

But I mean, I love this film for what it is. I mean, I just thought everybody did a really good job. Perry King was awesome in it. Ronnie McDowell, I mean, the legend right there out of everybody in it. And he did an amazing performance as the, was it biology teacher or science teacher? I can't remember. It was one of those. Yeah, one of those teachers.

But, I mean, overall, I mean, the movie is awesome. I love it. I've introduced it to a lot of my friends that never even heard of it. On E-Society, we have the show up to the challenge. I challenge the Zisu to watch it. He had never heard of it or seen it. And after he watched it, he was like, he goes, I was shocked. And he goes, I love this film.

So I was glad that I introduced it to him. But again, I love this film. When was the first time you seen this? I seen it a long time ago when I was younger. And it's been so long I completely did not remember any of it. And then I believe, I can't think of the listener's name. I want to say Jeff Larimore, who was a patron of ours. This was one of his picks.

And I watched it. And I don't think I gave it a fair chance because I liked it, but I didn't love it. I wanted to love it. And I always wanted to revisit it. And I was, I was just thinking, you know, no good a time is on the action returns. And on this rewatch, I really, really enjoyed it more than I did the other two times I watched it. I thought everybody was good in here. Roddy McDowell playing them.

I liked the role because he went from one of those teachers. He just did not want to get involved at all to basically snapping and wanting to take matters into his own hands. And Michael J. Fox, he totally looked like somebody that's going to go tell on somebody. He completely had that look about him. He was a little heavy Michael Fox. Yeah. But yeah, I think out of the actors, Michael J. Fox and Roddy McDowell were pretty much the known actor. But Michael Fox, I want to say it was his first movie, but I mean, don't quote my, quote me on it, everyone.

But, I mean, even his little performance, I mean, like the kids of the 80s, when we see him, all we think of is Alex P. Keaton or Marty McFly from the back of the future films. But this one, I mean, I don't really ever hear him talking about. about this film. I mean, he talks about all the stuff that he's famous for, but I don't know if anyone's ever brought in this up to him. But I mean, his little role, he's only in it a few times, but he is

kind of one of the, I wouldn't say the main characters, but his character is in the movie throughout. So I thought his performance was good. But from what I understand, this was all filmed up in Canada. It was supposed to be in the, in

America, but I don't know, I guess it's cheaper to film up there, so that's where they film the whole film. But going back to when I first seen this film, I mean, sitting in a theater by myself, there was other people in there, but just a little kid watching what was on the film. I mean, I don't even know if I would even let my little sixth grade,

well, the way past sixth grade, but maybe talking about my grandson. I don't even think I would let them watch this if they were in the sixth grade. I mean, other than the violence, there was some graphic violence in this, as well as there was nudity and there was a rape scene in it. A gang rape scene. Yeah. I don't know if I would let them do it. I mean, now I tell my mom, my mom, or my mom.

mom and my dad did all the crazy ass shit that I watched as a kid and they're like no one ever said anything to you nobody like to ask where's your parents I said that theater did not care as long as they got their money I mean there was every there was every now and then there was one or two people that would say hey where's your parent or how old you you can't go in here you need to go back in the other movie theater but that was just rare I mean I sat through a lot a lot of horror and everything. And I mean, by myself at times. So, but I mean, this was one of them that I'm surprised nobody said anything to me.

I mean, watching it pretty much twice. Uh, in, and one day. So I mean, no one said nothing. It was easy back then. It was easy to just, yeah, like you said, you can watch a movie twice and get up and go watch another movie and nobody really, it's not like they really care. now either because there's a bunch of kids working in movie theaters now and they ain't going to tell you to get up and get out if you had to pick a favorite scene in this film uh which part would it be

who um the scene with roddy mcdow when he snapped and he pulled that gun out and he was forcing them to answer questions and for the most part they was getting uh some of them were getting the was writing and he was like kind of like see they are learning and except for uh what's his name stegman yeah he's about to get it because he he's getting the wrong answers but yeah i just i just liked rottie's whole uh character arc through this he was just like didn't give a shit didn't want to get involved and telling uh the other teacher you know you might want to carry a carry a piece on you and just come and just completely snapped once he got involved in or didn't mean to get involved.

The other guy got him involved in which caused the gang to tear up his classroom and kill all those animals. And I guess that that kind of just set him over. And yeah, that scene. And then I guess the end scene. because according to the Google synopsis, which their synopsis was basically just the last half of the, or last act of the movie.

But I liked all that. I liked him kind of going after, you know, defeating each, each hoodlum, each gang member, especially the big dude because that guy clearly was not in high school. Yeah.

I can't remember his name of the movie. I just remember his thing. think from me meatballs but I think if I had to pick a scene it would be shit I just thought of it I forgot

oh another Roddy scene before before he snapped when the teacher the main guy Perry King and Rod there had like a barbecue and he was

talking they were talking to each other and Roddy McDowell was just like I just want to get through to one of these kids. I mean, because the school is just fucked up. It's, I mean, the school,

the high school is a mess. I mean, there's, uh, video cameras in the hallway and there's a metal detector. You got to walk through. There's graffiti all over the outside, all over the inside,

inside the classrooms, everything. But he was like, he knew that these kids were just, um, some of them were from broken homes and maybe, maybe single parents and he was like, I just want to get through to one of them.

I mean, because it seemed like these, they weren't even really teachers. They were more like babysitters. That's how it made it seem like at the school because a lot of the teachers just didn't care. They're like, we're just here collecting a paycheck and we have to deal with all these attitudes,

these teenagers. But that scene when he was just like, I just, I just try, I want to try to get through to one of them. I know I could and he just starts crying because he's just, he feels like he's a failure. I mean, Roddy McDowell is just an amazing actor and he's not just known for the Planet of the H series, which is an amazing series, everyone, the original one, not the CGI one. But he's done so much. and it was just he's he's that good of an actor because if you watch the making of it they're saying that he really really went for it in this movie like he took the script

and made notes and um the scene that my favorite scene when he's talking and he's crying they said they shot that scene over and over and over again and always on that same cue he was able to just let the tears out. And the director was like, I had never worked with anyone like that before. And he was just an amazing actor. So, I mean, out of everyone in it, I mean, he just took this role.

I mean, it was a different role for him. Because if you do watch all of his movies before he got to class in 1984, I mean, this was just something totally different because when he first came across the screen, the beginning of the film, I was like, he's in this movie?

Yeah, I was only in sixth grade, but I just love watching movies. So I knew who he was. I mean, yes, that first time I had heard of him was from the Planet of the Apes films,

but I just thought he did an awesome performance. And there's another scene where he, after he snaps, he really snaps and goes after him in his car and tries to run him over in the streets.

Um, they were going to use a stunt driver, but Roddy was like, no, I want to do it. He goes, why don't you just mount a camera on the hood and go. So the director, he was like, he was sitting in the backseat, laying in the back seat with the boom mic and everything. And he goes, I thought I was going to die because the car was going. If you watch the scene, if you guys have seen this film, he's all over the road going back and forth. And they said that was him that did it all. Maybe not when you can't see him in the car, but when the camera mounted on the hood is showing him. And you see all the background stuff.

It was really him driving the car all crazy. He thought that he was going to, he was just going to lose it because the street was wet. So he thought he was going to like slide out, crash into a car or maybe crash into the crowd because there was a lot of extras out on the street. So, but he said, nah, man, he, he took this role and really went for it. So I think out of everybody in this film, I thought he did, um, did more than what he was supposed to do. And then just remembering the lines and repeating them. He like, I want to do this.

I want to do that. So, I mean, I just thought his performance was amazing. But I mean, I mentioned, go ahead. I was going to say another scene that I really enjoyed was, um, the, when Mr. Norris. Perry King was trying to kick Stegman and his gang out saying they didn't belong there. And then Stegman just gets on the piano and just is just going at it on the piano. Like, you know, he's he's got skills.

He's got talent. And I just kind of like that they showed a different side of him for a second because he went back to the segment that we know throughout the movie. He actually wrote that the music. for that for that little piano part. Nice. I was watching. I assumed the making or was reading something. I can't remember.

They said that he, he, that was something that he wrote. And he just put it in the movie and, and they loved it. So I thought that was awesome. I think my, um,

with Stegman, it seemed like, he wasn't like, like his gang. The other gang, they were like, maybe they were just, wild kids in the street and lived in bad neighborhoods.

Stegman was a rich kid that lived in a high rise with his mom. And he was just, I don't know, he was a spoiled rich kids and just wanted to be bad. He played that so well to that scene where Mr. Norris comes. Yeah. He's a, mommy, make him leave. Make him leave, mommy. I was like, uh, I mean, because these guys, this Stegman and his gang were running the school.

I mean, they ran from what the cops were saying, that there was drugs and prostitution. We ended them seeing them doing that later in the film. And I was just like, wow. I mean, there was another gang. Stegman and his crew were the white gang. And then there was Jiu and Leroy and the black gang. because there's a scene where they're walking through the hall

stegman in his gang and they see Leroy one of the black gang members he's selling drugs to to these two girls I mean my only problem with the how they the dialogue for the black gang was just like just stereotypical like you

man, this stuff will get you higher than the kite. I'm big, you call me the medicine man. I mean, come on. They named him Leroy and Juju, so you see what he was going with this. So I was kind of like, whoa, I mean, but it was crazy. I mean, they did, they dropped an N-word once in this film. And this school, man, it just seems like they didn't care because you got, white guys walking around with swastikas on their t-shirt and nobody's telling them to go home and take it off or

I mean I mean there was even that was even swastikas and stuff written in the bathrooms oh speaking of all the graffiti in the school they all got in trouble after they made this film because they said yeah we're gonna graffiti up the school but don't worry about it we'll we'll we'll take it all down. We'll wash it all off and we're not using permanent stuff, but it turns out that they did. And there was some of the graffiti they couldn't get off. So they, I guess they had to pay some big fine to have whoever come in and sandblast some of it, I guess. But I was like, Dan, did they just hand spray paint and pens the kids? Here, right what you guys want. Because if you actually look at all the things

written on the walls, it's a lot of crazy as shit. I was like, damn, but even in the classrooms, I mean, I mean, yeah, there's graffiti at every school, but not, I mean, even the schools, I went to a school in

West Oakland in I think it was somewhere of 88, I believe. And from what I understand, that was like one of the roughest schools in Oakland. And yeah, there was graffiti here and there, but not like this film where it was everywhere.

I mean, and this was like right in the hood. So I was, I mean, yeah, it was a little overboard in a movie, but, I mean, I guess that they were just trying to make it look like it was extra bad. But, I mean, again, it was a movie. But, I mean, it was crazy. I liked what they did. I mean, they really just went for it. I mean, the thing that makes me laugh when I watch it now,

there's surveillance cameras in the hall. And like today, they're just small little bubbles. And you can see if this was a huge, look like a mailbox or something hanging from the ceiling. I don't know. It was crazy. The other scene, when the Stegman, and when they go up against,

the black gang. I mean, even uh, juju when he steps up and he's like, hey, nobody messes with my man, Leroy, I'm going to cut you white meat.

I'm like, who wrote the, who wrote the dialogue for, for the black guys? I was like, come on. It was screenplay by Tom Holland, Mark Lester,

and John Saxton. Well, for me, Tom Holland again, I'm going to ask him. you write that line in the movie. I mean, yeah, I mean, the movie is, what was Perry King's name? Mr. Norris.

Yeah, Mr. Norris, he's, I think it was from Nebraska, they said. He shows up at this new high school and he, I assume he didn't go there before he started. Because then he gets there and he sees how crazy this school is. kids walking through metal detectors and he even says he's like is this necessary and then i mean riding mcdowell's like where have you been teaching so i mean obviously he came from a small little town where this was all new to him so and then then we're introduced to stegman and and his gang and everything and then this that that's where it starts um but i mean like you said Roddy McDowell's character, he did tell him, look, you need to just learn how to look the other way and just let these kids do what they do.

Because you're going to get hurt because before they even went into the school, Mr. Norris pulls up to Roddy McDowell's and he sees he's putting stuff in his briefcase and he sees he's got a little handgun in there. Because he even asked him, what's the gun for? And that's when he says, where have you been teaching? I mean, it was just like, wow. I mean, I don't know about you listeners. If your high schools were like this high school, if you haven't seen this film, if you haven't seen this film, it's streaming on YouTube.

So there's no excuse why you haven't seen this. Or I think it's on prime as well. Yeah. But so, yeah, that's where the story begins. And it just norris clashing with Stegman. in his gang. And because it seems like all the other teachers in the school didn't just let Stegman and those guys do what they do and didn't interfere, didn't ask for their homework or anything

because when we find out that Stegman, he's the leader of the gang, we find out that he's, they're also dealing drugs in school like Ed mentioned and everything. So it was, I mean, this school was fucked up and it was crazy. So, I know there's bad schools in America. I know there's bad schools in America. I know there is, but did they exaggerate a little more with this by the teachers not caring? So, I mean, I don't know. Was your high school like this?

I mean, there was guns and stuff, but there was not metal detectives and, I mean, armed security guards, which was weird. there was armed security guards in this movie, but nobody cared because you got that scene when I think Mr. Nora sees somebody get by the middle detector with something. And he's like telling him, oh, he's got something. And everybody's just kind of like, oh, well, got away. Yeah, they passed through a straight razor. Yeah.

And he tells him, hey, that kid's got a straight razor. And he was like, who? Where? And he goes, like, then they had the security guard. I was like, all right, whatever. I didn't see it.

I mean, that's, that was the mentality of security, the principal, and every teacher and the faculty. I mean, it seemed like everyone would just let them do what they want. And we're going to get our paycheck on Friday.

I mean, it just seemed like none of them cared. I mean, there was kids there that wanted to learn. Because when we go into Mr. Norris, he was the music teacher. I mean, the class, it was pretty much the whole class was there ready to learn and ready to play.

But when Stegman and those guys are in there, they're just basically just there. And, I mean, they, we find out that they, they don't want to learn. And they're doing the Nazi salute and everything. And I was like, man, I know the, they exaggerate to me. they exaggerated with the with their punk quote unquote attire I mean the the only part they had real pumps is when they were in that actual punk club and when they're all slam dancing and everything but those guys they just you can just clearly see they were perpetrators but I mean they were just role they were just playing the role I mean speaking of that scene when they were in the punk club the director said that, okay, we were going to shoot this scene and we wanted real, he said, real punks to be in the scene. There was a band playing on stage and everybody's slamming around, slam dancing and all that. The girl in Stegman's crew, I can't remember her name,

I think was Patsy. Yeah. She had never seen any of that before and she just did not want to be in the scene. So she kind of, they show her coming to the club and that gets. she stepped to the side because the real punk girls didn't like her. They knew she was fault. I mean, it's a movie. She's an actor, but no.

I mean, I mean, punks, I'm not saying all of them are like that, but some are. I mean, if you're trying to perpetrate and they're going to call you on it.

So they said they had to keep her away from all of them because the girls were ready to fight her. But the boys, stigman and those guys, they said they got into it, man. They jumped out there. You see them jumping off the stage and you see Big Sink just mowing fools down.

They said they had a good time. The director said after they were done, after they yelled cut, it was kind of hard to get everyone to stop. He said they had to really just, hey, all right, all right, all right. Because they said it got out of control. Yeah, thanks name was Barnyard.

Did they even say his name at all? No, but I had to look it up. He's Barnyard and she was Patsy and then the other guy was, I think, drugstore. Yeah, that was that Ingram guy. And the other dude with the glasses was Fallon, I believe. He seemed, he did not look like a teenager at all of them. He looked the oldest. But from what I understand, I think he had to leave the set because his wife had a baby or

something so he had to take off but he definitely wasn't a kid then you had to go take off to see his pregnant wife he shot all his scenes and everything but i mean that scene in the club other than were these guys seniors i don't know i i just we didn't well i don't know but i mean how bad were these guys to they were able to have their own little um basically a clubhouse in this club. And these are kids, teenagers. And I'm like, are they that bad that this club owner that owns this punk club is so scared of them? Or who knows?

Maybe they were paying them with all the extortion and drug money and prostitution that was going on. That was even crazy. I mean, of course, all these actors. it are over 21 because if you sit there and think about it there was one girl that came in there and she was like they go yeah this is

whatever her name was and she wants she says she'll hook for him for some toot I've never heard anyone ever say toot but anyway I heard her one other time they said it in Howard the Duck one of the

one of the guys at the clubs sees Howard. He's like, oh, I think I'm doing too much too. So this girl's a teenager, I would say. And then they basically make her get naked. Well, first they give her some Coke and then, or toot. And then they say, all right, well, take your clothes off and let's see you. And I never really thought about any of this as I'm watching these movies when I was growing up, but they're supposedly supposed to be teenagers and everything, and then they get fully naked and everything. Yeah, I probably enjoyed it when I was a kid, but now I'm like, these are supposed to be teenagers, or what are we doing here? Or even before

that girl got in there, they brought in the, the hell is his name, Vinnie Cantino, this is typical Italian metal thug guy or something. They bring him in and he goes, yeah, I don't. like to work for you guys and you go, what can you do? I think he was going to sell drugs for them or something like that. But I mean, and these are all little teenagers wanting to work for a group of bad teenagers. I mean, it's funny if you sit there to think about it, but I mean, I was just like, wow. I mean, I assume this is me thinking maybe they were paying the club owner for them to have their little hang out and everything.

I mean, you got a drugstore over there shooting up. And I was like, damn. I mean, but where is this city? It was in Canada. It was supposed to be somewhere in America. They never really said, but it was filmed in Canada.

So it was just inner city America. Yeah. I mean, there's the scene that the street that were on, they kept, they must have just blocked off that street every single day because every time there was a scene in the film when they were in the street, it was on that very same street because at the end of the street, you see these big giant double A's. It was called A&A. It was a, I guess, a big music store in Canada. I don't remember what part of Canada was. I actually had to look that up because I was like, what's this

A&A music? So I looked it up and it was whatever, whatever Canada. So that's where this all took place. So, I mean, that was like, you can clearly see that because the, the whole scene with Roddy, when he was chasing him down, that was filmed on that street. The scene when Stegman and the gang trap Michael J. Fox and the other girl, I can't remember her name. When they had him in that alley, it was, it was on that same street. So, I mean, maybe that maybe that. Maybe that. That's all whatever city they were in here. You can only work on this street nowhere else. The high school and the street, that's it.

So, but I was okay. But, I mean, you do what you got to do when you make a movie. But I mean, but the rest of the film, it was back and forth with Mr. Norris and Stegman's crew to where they got to the point that they gangrate Mrs. Norris. I don't know. Yeah. It's like, man, how fucking bad are you kids? I, exactly. I mean, I don't know.

I mean, they, they were all bad. I mean, they just, they broke into the house. Well, Mr. Norris went off to the school because he was conducting the concert. And they all break into his house and just rape his white and take Polaroids and everything. I was like, man, I mean, these these kids just did not care. Yeah. And the one thing that's different from other movies is there's usually one that's not really that bad. But every single one of them was, you guys are terrible fucking people.

I know. And I mean, going back to Stegman, again, he was the rich kid. And I'm like, why? I don't know what. happened to him. Maybe he just wanted to be cool. And this is what he was doing. Yeah.

This is what he was doing to think he was cool. I was, it was just, it was crazy. I mean, I wanted to know what he, how he got his crew, what made them want to be with him.

I mean, because he, he didn't look very tough. But, I mean, you got this big giant dude, big old football player, looking guy.

And, that is a man looking kid that wasn't a teenage I mean because what there was only four of them and because that scene when they they had the fight with the black gang there was seven of them

but then again stigman and those guys came with like bats and sticks and chains and those other guys just had knives and the sticks can reach you before the knife can cut you I'm gonna cut you white meat I think that was my line.

I laugh every time I hear that line. No one messes around with my man, Leroy. I'm gonna cut you white meat. Cut this. This movie was nuts. I mean, getting to, well, yeah, we're all over the place on this one. But I mean, but that was pretty much. Norris was trying to teach.

He was even trying to talk to Stigman to like, what's wrong with you guys? Why are you guys? He tried to reach out to them, but they just, they weren't having it. They were too far gone. So it made it seem like that was the reason why they kept going after him. Because like I said, all the other teachers were just looking the other way and letting them run the school the way they were running it. He was the only one that was trying to stop them. So that's why they kept having conflict after conflict with them.

There's a scene when there's a drug deal going on in the bathroom. And Mr. Norris comes in and he misses it. It's Michael J. Fox and one of his friends, thereby, and I think it was Angel Dust from Stegman and those guys. and this made me laugh because as soon as they bought it, that guy just immediately started to snort it all. And he snorted that whole little bag, one take.

I think you're supposed to let it ride out for a while. Yeah, that was impressive. And him climbing up that flagpole is kind of impressive. Because it's like, where are you going? But I mean, I guess if you do a whole bag. because he when he does it and then Mr. Norris comes in

he got all right you guys line up and empty out your pockets so they all start throwing the wallets and keys and stuff he starts going down the line he asks Michael J. Fox well what's going on? He goes I'm not oh no he starts and Mr. Norris starts looking around he finds

a little baggy in the journal and he's like all right and he can clearly see it's got residue went in. He's all right, who's this? And they're like, that ain't ours. That ain't ours. And he asked Michael J. Foxx. He goes, I don't mess with that shit. And he goes, none of us do him and his buddy.

But you see his buddy there like pulling at his face. And you can clearly see he was he was hella high because his eyes were all red. And he was just like he was looking through the walls. But he tells them, all right, you guys can go. So they end up leaving. And that's

when that guy was so dusted. He climbed the flagpole. Yeah, he must that whole bag must have didn't him dirty because I don't think I could call that flagpole was high too.

Yeah. He climbed up there and had to make his political statement with the Pledge of Allegiance and then just, I guess the flag tore and he fell fell to his death.

And then when the police and all that show up, Mr. Norris knows that he bought drugs from Stegman and those guys. But what was Michael J. Fox's name? I can't remember. He was Arthur. All right.

Because he knows he's like, Arthur, we know your friend bought the drugs for them. Why don't you just tell the cops that? He's like, I don't know nothing. He goes, I don't know nothing. Because he did tell him. He's like, if I say something, they're going to get me. So he goes, I'm not saying anything.

That's when Stegman and those guys caught him. And what was a girl's name? Oh, gosh, I can't remember her name. Dean. Dean. Yeah. Which I was like, why are you guys questioning him out in the open in front of everybody? You guys, you know, make it look like he's talking.

Janine, I think her name was. Okay. Yeah, because the cops. are there and I mean, Stegman and those guys are like way far away, but they can clearly see he see standing or talking to Norris and the police. But I mean, he never ratted

anyone out. He's like, I don't know, I don't know. I don't know nothing. But I mean, that's what, that's not what stagnant in those guys see. They see him talking to the teachers and the cops. So, I mean, because Mr. Norris went to the cops and was like, why can't you do anything about these guys? You know

they're doing all this. He goes, well, he goes, we can't can't do anything. He goes, other than their minors, we can't touch them. He goes, the only way we can bust them for something is if you're holding their hand while they're robbing you. And Mr. Norse is like, what? I mean,

yeah, the law, man, there's ways to get around the law, especially if you're a minor. So, I mean, they, well, I mean, he, the cop wasn't lying. I mean, he, I think he knew that these guys were doing stuff, but you, you had to catch

them in the act and nobody was coming because the cop said he goes nobody's going to come forward and tell tell us that what these guys are doing so i mean because that's what um michael j fox said arthur he said i i'm not telling them i i don't know because they're going to get me if i say anything so so that's what they were keeping their eye on him and they basically had him uh attempted murder when they got uh that one guy from the beginning of the film Vinnie Cantino to murder Arthur at school. So they give him a knife. They start this big fight in the cafeteria.

And then Vinny walks up to Arthur and stabs him in the gut. And then he goes down. And then to stigman of those guys, I'll get the hell out of there before security and everybody shows up. So Arthur's in the hospital. And they're not really sure if he died or anything, but they're still kind of keeping the eye on him. But Arthur finally said, look, because Mr. North, he's like, dude, we know, you know they did this to you. And he finally goes, look, man, he goes, if I say anything, they're just going to come after me again. But I think Mr. Norris kind of warmed down.

And then he finally said, yeah, all right. Vinny was the one that stabbed me. So, you soft, Arthur. I mean, it came at you when you didn't say anything. So what's going to happen when they find out you really did say something? Well, they knew because they took Vinny down and then Stegman and all. They were all in the police station. But they were like, well, that's when they said, we got nothing on them.

Yeah, we got a witness for Vinny, but these guys, we have to let them go. So I think that's when Stegman and those guys were finally like, you know what? We just got to get Norris. I mean, no, we're not going to beat him up. They were going to kill him. Because after, when Arthur was still in the hospital, Mr. Norris, like, grabbed Stegman and took him in the bathroom and told him, he goes, I know you guys did this to Arthur. And I know you guys sold drugs and to whatever his name was.

And the kid that fell off the flagpole, he goes, I can't prove it. but I know you did it. And he was like almost to the point of beating Stegman. And Stegman, well, I guess he did this before Tyler Duden. What was his own in Edward Dorno? I guess they just called him a narrator and fight club.

Yeah. Because Stegman's like, oh yeah, and slams his head into the mirror and cracks it. Blood's coming out of his forehead. And they slams his head into the paper towel dispenser. And then slams his mouth. on to the sink and he's got blood coming out of his mouth, blood coming out of his head.

He wiped blood off of his face, rubs it on Mr. Norris as the security comes in. And he goes, he's trying to get me. He was trying to kill me. And again, when Mr. Norris is questioned by the principal, the security goes, look, I came in. He's got a hold of this kid. There's blood on the kid's all bloody. He's got blood on him. because he knows Stegman. He knows he's all psychotic and would do something like this.

But they, again, they couldn't prove it. So, I mean, I'm surprised that Stegman didn't, well, I guess I can't see why he didn't. He didn't press charges on him, or Mr. Norris would have been arrested. But that's when he went to Stegman's house. This is when we find out that he's a rich kid. because he lives in this nice apartment building.

Plus he's got a badass car. Again, I'm not familiar with cars, but that car was up. He had a badass car. Because, yeah, he goes there and tries to talk to him. He tried to Mr. Norris tries to talk to Stegman's mom. She's like, haven't you done enough? If you want to talk to me, you need to talk to my lawyer. Because before when he's knocking the door and then you hear Stegwin, like,

Mommy, don't let him in, please, Mommy. I was like, yeah, I don't know. I mean, but he was, he was that crazy because his mom went in the other room, he walks over to the intercom. I don't know. I don't know how he timed it so perfectly to where Mr. Norris was walking by when he was like, teacher, teacher. And he come to my house again, I'm going to kill you. And Mr. Norris was like, fuck all this.

He goes there. No, he goes into the garage and finds Stegman's car and breaks in, hotwires it, and then just crashes. into the walls and in the pillars. And that's when the next day, that's when stagming comes charging in. You did it. You broke my car, you motherfucker, I'm going to kill you. He starts cussing and yelling at him. Mr. Norris is just sitting in the desk. Like, I don't know

what you're talking about. And he's threatened him. Look like he was getting ready to jump on Mr. Norris, but that's when a security guard walked in. They said, I'm going to get you. And he leaves. And I think this was the night that of the concert because that's when they go break into Mr.

Norris' house and gang rape his wife and take Polaroids. I mean, that scene was brutal. They don't show much, but you know what they're doing. And I was like, wow, man, it was just, and she was pregnant too. I don't know if she

lost the baby from being raped, but I mean, how wild are these kids to do something like that? I mean, It was, again, picturing my little sixth grade mind watching this movie. I mean, I had seen Death Wish already. And there was a huge rape scene in that first film and watching. I knew what they were doing was bad.

And I knew all the stuff they were doing throughout the movie was bad. So I was able to comprehend that. But shit was crazy. I mean, because we get to the concert, Mr. Norris is ready. to conduct his class. Patsy comes running in. I know, she comes in and she hands some Polaroids to

and I think it was an envelope. Another teacher comes and goes, oh, here, someone gave you this, he opens it up. They don't show what's on the picture. He just looks at it and he realizes it's his wife. And he looks at the door, he sees Patsy at the door, then he goes hauling ass after her.

She goes running. I assume they went way to the other side of the of the high school because he goes chasing them down the hall. And they end up three of them. Stegman had Mr. Norris's wife and Fink and Fallon and drugstore. They all beat up Mr. Norris in the hallway and then they all go running off. So he goes,

he goes looking for them. And then he gets jumped again in the gym, right? Was it the gym or was it their full? auto shop they had in there. No, because remember the, I think it was drugstore, came swinging in on the rope. That's right, yeah. Yeah, because they, they knocked him and beat him up again in there. And that's when we see Stegman holding Mr. Norris's wife.

And then they all go running off again. So he kind of goes hiding. And then they're like, they're all going to kill him. So they all go looking, looking for him. So they all spread up, they all break up. They all break up and start searching for him. Mr. Norris is hiding in the, I think it was a wood shop or something. Yeah, it was a wood shop.

And that's when Fallon goes in there, the man kid. He goes in and they kind of go at it for a little while and fight. And then Mr. Norris turns on the circular table saw. Well, first Fallon tries to get him, like shove his face in. up and then he reverses it and slams Fallon down and ends up cutting Fallon's arm off. And he's, ah, he's screaming because his arm's off. And then he kind of picks him off. Mr. Norris picks him up and then slams him right on top of it.

And the blade goes into his back and kills him. And then he ends up leaving. Drugstore and Fink. And I think Patsy, they come in and they see Fallon. He's dead. And that's what they're like, ah! They start screaming and go running. out of the out of the room looking for Mr. Norris.

Mr. Norris goes into, I don't know, the, I think it was the auto shop, yeah, because gasoline, he dumps gasoline all over the floor. A drugstore comes in first, and then Mr. Norris lights up a blow torch, and he's, like, holding it, and he's getting ready to, no, the drugstore was going to rush him, but then he, like, lights the gas on the floor on fire and ankles and gets all over a drugstore and he I don't think he died he just got all burned up because when they come in I mean he's not burning anymore but he's like his eyes are still open and you see him breathing so he just got really really burnt up but that's when fink comes in and charges after him he got to give it to

him man because he was uh mr norris was swinging one of those big ass crescent wrenches and He blocking him with his forearms. Yeah, man. Like it was nothing. Then he tackled him. And they were under one of those, there was a car up on, all right, this is where I got a problem. They had the car up on these, on these little jacks. And I'm like, how the hell did high school kids get that car that high high

on those jacks. I don't know. Usually they would have some kind of lift, but there was no lift in there. So I don't know how these little high school kids did it. But anyway, so they're in there fighting. Patsy gets in another car that's in there.

She fires up the engine and it goes hauling ass towards Mr. Norris and Fink. And Mr. Norris jumps out of the way. She's just full speed slams into Fink. And he goes and kills him. instantly and slams him into the wall but she hits the jack stands in that car that was on the jacksand comes down

and crushes the top and I assume that it caved in and just broke her neck or something because she's in there all bloody and everything so he's like fuck so he ends up running out

of the class running out still looking for his wife he sees him he chases him he chases his stegman and Mr. Norris's wife up to the roof of the school, of the auditorium, those two get into a little battle. Well, first, Stegman cuts Mr. Norris's wife on the chest. He has a little knife and slices her, and he throws her down, and they start fighting. And Mr. Norris is getting his ass beat.

Then he starts beating up Stegman, and then he ends up, just clocking him hell of hard. Stegman goes crashing through these I guess it's a sky view window or something he goes falling through that and for some reason there's ropes all over the place for him to grab

onto he holds on to it and Mr. Norris was leaning down there and Stegman's like I'm going to fall can you help me or I'm going to fall so Mr. Norris is kind of reaching down

like well here grab my hand so he kind of grabs Stegreen grabs Mr. Norris's hand, but then he reaches around and pulls a knife out of his pocket and like, fuck you, motherfucker, and, and tries to cut him. And then Mr.

Norris just pulls back and then just, plucks him in the face. And he goes, ah, he falls in. I don't know how the rope got around his neck, but he falls through all these ropes. And,

and it just hangs himself in, in full auditorium. Yeah, I was like, wow, how easy. evil are you? You're just going to, you had a chance to be saved,

but you're going to try to stab him at the last second. So he's laying there hanging and he's dead and that's pretty much your movie. I mean, you see Mr. Norris just checking on his wife and then we see

Stegman hanging there by his neck. Everyone's screaming. And they say, you know, you see the front of, front of the high school as kids are going in school and then the credit start rolling. A quick little thing that I learned from the making of it.

They filmed the scene but I guess one of the heads of the studio didn't like the ending because the ending they filmed, Stegman killed himself. He was holding on to that rope

and when Mr. Norris was trying to reach out and help him, he just let go and fell and hung himself. I would have been, excuse me, I would have been okay with that if he was so evil to the point where he would kill himself to make it seem like Mr. Norris killed him. He, he, the guy, the head guy was like, I didn't like that. He goes, after all the shit he had been through that night, killing all the other guys.

He goes, why didn't he kill him? So they were like, you know what? Give me a couple of days and come back and I'll show you the ending. So I guess that he thought about it. Well, shit, man, I can't shoot this whole scene over again. He goes, because it was perfect.

What he did, he said, he goes, he just got Perry King, bloodied him up, put the, the camera down and he goes all I want you to do is cock your fist back and punch the camera. That's all he did

and that's what they added and added to what they filmed already and then he took the back the film showed the head guy and he goes awesome I love it put it out. So that was how they got around that because he did say like

how am I going to do this? Because of course you got to go get the whole crew go get Timothy Van Patten again and he goes they just you know what we're just going to do this all we need is Perry King and a camera and that's what they did

so yeah that's that's class of 1984 I mean I love this film I think it's an amazing film just seeing it for years and I watch it pretty much all the time so

I mean I just love this film I can't get enough of it. It is cheesy and it does a little stupid at times, but, I mean, it was a movie before its time because flash forward to the past few years with the school violence that's going on in America, kids showing up with rifles or handguns and just massacring.

their fellow students. I mean, Columbine and all these other schools. I mean, it's crazy. I mean, it may be not so far to where the school is full of graffiti and prostitution and all that. But yes, there is drugs. There was drugs in my high school. But, I mean, as far as violence, I mean, other than just fights, that was it. But there wasn't gun violence like there is today.

So, I mean, this this movie did kind of was preparing everyone. This is how schools can be. And it's going that way. So, I mean, I thought this film, it said a lot. It came out way back in the day and maybe way before some of you listeners were born. But, I mean, this movie, I mean, there was other films before this one. I mean, there was back in the old black and white days where that, There was school,

school violence, I mean, violent films that happened in schools. But, I mean, that's crazy on how they, how they did this. I mean,

what they did in this film. And it was all supposed, supposed to be teenagers, causing all the violence, causing the rapes and selling drugs and everything. I mean, it's, this movie is way before its time and it's crazy.

But, I mean, again, I can, I can enjoy, enjoy what it is, enjoy all the awesome performances by all these actors. And I think this is a film that if you haven't seen it,

I think this is a film that you should see. And maybe older, your older teenagers sit down and watch this with them. Because who knows, maybe they can tell you other, I mean, stuff that they've seen in their schools. But I don't know. I mean, it's up to the parents if they want their kids to see this. But again, if you don't have,

have Amazon. It is streaming on YouTube. And the copy on there is clear. So just search for it. And you'll find it. There's a few uploads of this film on there. But there's the one that I watched. It's just crystal clear. It's awesome. All right. That was class of 1984. On the next episode, we are going to travel to the oh so distant future of 1999. with Mark Lester's follow-up, science fiction action thriller horror, according to Wikipedia, class of 1999.

All right. Anything else, Naz before we get out of here? No, that's it. Oh, if you want to be a part of it, that also is on YouTube.

So you'll be able to watch it there, everyone. Um, yeah, take it for what it is, but definitely watch class in 1984 first. I mean, this to me is just, just a pure 80s classic and a masterpiece for, for what the film is. But as far as that, I ain't got nothing else. Um, East Society, we got, uh, we, we, we really got to tackle our Wanda vision stuff. We're six episodes behind. We're just going to do one big, one big show and just run through what we can.

And if you guys watch Wanda Vision. It's an awesome show if you haven't. So that's all that we got coming. As far as McNus podcast, I mentioned this on one of our other latest E-Society shows. I hit my five-year mark for the McNest podcast. I got some interviews lined up. I just got to figure out the time when to do them. A couple wrestlers, a native.

wrestlers and another guy that runs his own comic book convention so that's coming just got to figure time when to sit down with these ladies and gentlemen and figure out when we can do it but that's what that's coming not anytime soon but it's coming but yeah as far as that

East Society we got another episode coming pretty soon probably when I get back home we'll knock that out cover some new TV shows as well as a couple of new movies and yeah That's it. So, but as far as that, everyone, please be safe out there. And we'll see you guys next time.

So until then, party on. And you already heard what's next coming for the action returns. We got stream fiends coming for you too. And I believe Nez is going to join us on the next episode of the horror returns, where we talk about the vigil and the 2012s of possession. So until then, everybody stay safe.