The Horror Returns - The Action Returns - Ep. #31: Zack Snyder’s Justice League (2021)

Episode Date: April 6, 2021

This episode Brian and Nez are joined by writer/director Mike J. Marin to discuss the 2021 version of Zach Snyder's JUSTICE LEAGUE.    Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns   

In the great hall of the Justice League, there are assembled the world's four greatest heroes, created from the cosmic legends of the universe. Superman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, their mission to fight injustice, to right that which is wrong, and to serve all mankind. Friday, everybody, welcome back to another episode of the Action Returns. I'm your host, Brian. with me as always is my brother Nez and Nez we have a special guest our first guest ever That's right, huh?

Yeah, we got a man of many, many talents writer, director, actor, producer, the MC author now with his book coming out pretty soon

but we got brother Mike with us Mike Morin Mike J. Marin for those of you that don't know he's part of the East Society and been in my life since we're a little kids in preschool so he's my brother from the beginning and all the way to the end but brother Mike man what's up hey hey man how's it going good good how's it going on down in the LA area whoa It's, you know, people thinking this pandemic is over and going around being stupid. We've got masks on and mass numbers, but, you know, I'm vaccinated, so I don't know, man. It's just, you know, still keeping myself safe and keep it busy, man, with a couple of film projects I got going on. And, yeah, so that's all has been up, just, and it's warming up down here.

yeah all it's been popping the warming up there brian yeah everything's starting to melt so it's uh it's kind of messy out but uh it's uh it's getting there it'll be gone by in the next month yeah it's hopefully hopefully it doesn't come back because uh this is what it's been doing the last couple weeks it's been uh chilly at night but uh we're in the 50s right now but we're about hit 70s in a couple days, but only for like the weekend. And then we drop back down to 40s. So still, it's, it's wishy-washy, uh, down here.

40s. Yeah. I'm wearing shorts outside. It's 40s. Not yet. This weekend I'll have my shorts off, but, uh, in those 40s hits, I got to put the pants back on. But, um, uh, we're back, everybody. Um, Zach Snyder's Justice League. In Rome, in the dark, among the stars.

God is dead. I had a dream. Almost like a premonition. There's an attack coming. This one will fall. Four years. I'm building an alliance to defend ourselves. How do you know your team's strong enough?

If you can't bring down the charging bull and don't wave the red cap out, the red cape at it. You're sitting here for a reason. Even if it takes you the rest of your life. They said the age of heroes will never come again. Society. What honor is a distinct memory. Isn't that right?

Batman. One a couple weeks ago? Yeah, believe on the 18th? I don't remember. Yeah, March 18th. And it is, we're almost the end of the month. March 29th. we're recording this but uh for all you they have HBO max or uh all you guys out there by

other means and me it's everywhere and um i'll tell you what i thought about it i mean if we're going to shout out to the league of geeks man this this was a hero to me i even gave the uh the theatrical cut a hero i mean i know the zizo and i we both liked it for what it was um but watching this one it blew that that one away. That one made no sense to what's what's going on. I mean, that's what I really loved about this. I went back and rewatched Man of Steel and the ultimate edition of Batman versus Superman. I didn't like those when I saw them, but this made me enjoy those ones. I went, ah, okay, I see what he was trying to do with the, the Justice League, the whatever, whatever that fool's name is.

He took the, I mean, the theatrical cut, they credited Zach Snyder for directing it, but he had to leave the project due to a family emergency. Shout out to the Snyders. I know, but Josh Whedon, I enjoyed it for what it was. was if we didn't get this one I would have been fine with that but this one made Superman and Batman v. Superman makes sense make more

sense to me in my opinion because if you guys remember if you guys listen to the East Society I hated Batman versus Superman because I was like well what the hell's all this what's this nightmare scene and all that but watching this one I was like oh my God I

I love this movie I mean I just thought it was fucking amazing. It didn't seem four hours. I watched it twice and I wanted more. I mean, you could have gave me another two more hours and I would have sat there and watched it. I don't think I would have liked it as much if they did the original plan by breaking it up into a miniseries into what, six parts or whatever. I don't think I would have liked it like that. I liked it. I liked how they did it, but I liked how it was just one big, movie. I'm glad that they did that. What'd you think about it, Brian? I completely loved it. I mean,

hashtag restore the Snyderverse. I mean, I want to see him finish out his vision. I don't even, I don't recognize the Josh Wheaton movie, that piece of garbage right there. That that is not Batman. Batman is not making little jokes and smiling all goofy when Superman shows up to hell. No, not Not that bad, man. Everything was badass about this. I like that Cyborg was more of a focal point in this one. The other movie, he just kind of seemed like a side character. The opening scene you get was Wonder Woman completely blew out that abysmal 1984 version.

I, I... Wonder Woman 84. I just loved everything they did with it. I thought Stefan Wolf was more badass than he was in the original version. We got to see Dark Side. And yeah, just everything. I did have a problem with the ratio aspect, but I understand that that was his perspective.

That was his vision as an artist, and that's how he wanted it to be. so I respect that but you know having seen it on a widescreen TV is just kind of throws it off a bit but yeah I loved it and

I agree four hours it didn't really seem like four hours to me I just I watched it straight through Mike the best part was man Cap picked up Thor's hammer and was wolfing Thanos's ass and that's where my opinion

lies about the DC movies. No, I'm just kidding. It was cool. I mean, I didn't see the the Josh Wheaton cut because I heard mixed reviews about it. And I just, I'm glad that I got to see this with fresh eyes.

That I wasn't, I wasn't saturated with a sucky version from what, you know, I hear mixed opinions. Some people liked it. Some people didn't. but I made the mistake of binge watching it at 12.30 at night before I knew it, it was like, oh shit, I got to go to sleep. So I saved the last two parts for the next day,

but it's like I couldn't sleep fast enough. I got up and started watching it again. But as far as like, I love the way that it's filmed. It's like all grainy, grainy and dark. and like from what I saw the comparisons after when I was on YouTube and like oh my God that Steppenwolf character

he looked like shit in that first version but in this one I love the way his armor was fluctuating and I love that in that you know they started off like man feet running with the the Themisgura battle

I thought that part was badass when he was taking on all the Amazon's I want a whole movie of just them. Yeah, honestly, you don't even, I love Gal Gadda's Wonder Woman, but you don't even need her. I just want a badass Themascara Amazonian movie. They, I thought what was cool was that, because I didn't know what was in the original, what was not, so Nez was kind of upping me on it while I was watching it. But I liked that flashback sequence with Zeus and the lantern. that's who I thought was going to show up.

I was waiting for Green Lantern to come up. But I'm glad that it's like not trying to cram a lot of stuff into it. It was just enough to give us the full Justice League lineup that I think the fans really want. Because I think, like I said, haven't not seen the first version. I think this is the film that the DC fans deserved. And I'm glad that that, that, um, He gets to carry out his vision. Zach Snyder gets to carry out his vision.

But from what I hear, like Peter Jackson wants to do, a director's cut of Lord of the Rings, which is supposed to last like seven days if he watches straight through. But I don't know if that was a joke or not. But back to this home, I mean, I liked it. Ben Affleck as Batman grew on me, at first I was like, oh, this dude's soft. But after, you know, watching,

Batman v. Superman a few times. I mean, to me, in my opinion, that film had the baddest Batman fight ever in all the Batman films dating back to, you know, Adam West and Bert Ward, you know, but that warehouse fight scenes what won me over as, and it was just cool. I mean, I, there were times in this film

when I got emotional, but I think if we're throwing out spoilers, everybody should have seen this, now but um martian manhunter that was a cool surprise um yeah but but overall overall i i i dug it i thought it was a really good film and um you know i i always buy movies in the physical form so if ever came out on a blu-ray i'm going to snatch it out it's coming still yeah they said it's coming in may is it going to be the original the ratio of the four three that he kept it probably yeah I thought that was cool.

I respected that. If that was his original vision, then it's like, hey, man, that's cool. Let it roll. But, yeah, I thought it was dope. Because he said he filmed it that way for IMAX, and I don't know if we'll ever get this in the theater. I mean, if we do, I want to see it on the big screen. I'll sit there for four hours. They probably will.

You know they will. Like, you know, there's a lot of movies that, got held back that they're going to throw in the movies that they're going to put in when theater start to open up so I would take it that this would be like maybe a special event or something and because they probably would show if they were smart marketing they would show Man to Steel Batman v Superman and this

I had this whole event that would be badass oh kind of like how they did the the Marvel I think it was the first phase or first two phases Yeah, but if they found a way to connect all three of them, like no credits after, just like make it one big ass, you know, monstrosity film, I think that would be pretty bad. As far as Ben Affleck as Batman, I mean, I was on board when we just saw the first pictures of him. I was like, all right, the reason why I loved it so much the way he looked was because I'm a huge fan of Frank Miller's Dark Knight, his life. little books that he put out. And that's what Zach Snyder went with.

He went with the Dark Night Returns or Return of the Dark Night, whatever it's called. He went with that, that look. Because at the end of this one, when we see the, not the Bat Tank War Machine or whatever his tank was called, when they showed that at the end, I was naked.

Man, I was like, oh my God, just, I screamed. I was like, oh, man. And you can see, if you guys are familiar with that story, he was, the Batman was fighting the mutants that were running wild in Gotham City. There was some tied up in front of the tank. I was like, oh, my God. I mean, why? I want more of that.

I mean, I wanted Ben Affleck's solo Batman film. Okay, I'm going to cut in real quick right here. All right. So I remember a while ago, both of you brothers asked me, at several times. Like, if I was a gazillionaire, like my dream director project would be to make that film.

Make those comics into a live-action film, that Dark Night Return series. But my choice for Batman, the old Batman, my choice would be Josh Brolin. Because he's got that jaw structure, that mean mugging. And he would be just a little footnote,

he'd be my choice to play Sergeant rock. But back to this, yeah, when I saw that, and he was standing on the Batmobile, the Darkener Returns Batmobile, and I was like, but I thought it was cool. I didn't know that Jay Jonah Jameson played Commissioner Gordon either. Yeah, it was, these guys can't pick, a side. I mean, I understand, and the struggle is real. You take what, take whoever pays you, because they're all over the place in these two universes. Well, he came over to D.C. and then Lawrence Fishburn went over to Ant Man.

That's right. I was waiting for me to say, Superman Destroyed Gotham? We handle that. A little farmer's plug. But yeah, man, it was cool. I really liked him because I like it when films aren't too clean. like I like gritty when they film with film grain.

I like that look. That aesthetic always, it always made it kind of retro for me and I dug it. I mean, I say watch the theatrical cut. It's a totally different movie. And this is what I liked about, what Zach Snyder did.

Because if you watch that one, it's really bright, a lot of bright colors. This one was just doom and gloom and dark. that's why I loved it so much. There was a few scenes that were from that one, but a lot of this was, I assume stuff that he picked up from the cutting room floor.

Because I think Josh Whedon took it and just made his own movie. And I don't know why they put on Zach Snyder's name as a director. From what I understand, he didn't even watch it. I guess his wife watched it. His wife watched it, said, don't watch it. And he said he never did. So I was like, man. I mean, because after I watched this one, I went back and I rewatched the original one.

I liked it for what it was. I took it for what it was. But they made it too cartoony. I mean, the way the, who were the demons, the flying demons called? you know the demons that were flying around the way they looked in Josh Whedon's movie they looked dumb where they like like the one like those things in on geonosis and um attack of the clones

not that bad I mean but they they they they were similar but what Zach Snyder he's made his look better um I even liked how they looked in the nightmare sequence and Batman v. Superman in that one. I wanted more I want that movie I know it's It was a nightmare and it was The different Different timeline I don't really know. I mean Joker tried to explain it at the end of this one which I just thought was awesome I mean I want another I want Batman movie with with Ben Affleck and

and Jared Lido together fighting each other. I want that. But I want this Joker that was in this one. I don't want the pimped out tattoos all over his face and all over his body from the sorry-ass suicide squad. But I'm excited for that new one that's coming out, man, because he's got Sina and you can't see him. But I want that. John Sina. He's in the new Suicide Squad.

Is that a shark thing in there? Yes. Yeah, King Shark. Stallone. Yeah. Yeah, I think that's going to, he's going to steal the movie. Yeah, he is. That damn figure is so hard to find, God.

But back to the Joker scene, though, I think that was like, oh, my God, that, that whole scene would just blew me away. I mean, their dialogue was just, you know, I loved it when Batman dropped the F-bomb on him. Because with that scene, when we. see all them all those people together right before kind of before that scene when we had those um I think it was it cyborg who who is visioning all

this stuff when Superman was holding a burnt up body and it was Lois Lane and you see Darkside putting his hand on him you see dark side stabbing Aquaman and just just Wonder Woman died too yeah the Wonder Woman they were burning her

I guess that's the traditional way that Amazonians or whatever deal with their with their dead But you got to put that But got to put the coins on the eyes So the So the

So the Uh To the ferryman can take her I was I was I want I want that I know

HBO tried to come at Warner And say hey man We We want this But Warner Brothers We want the Snyderverse to continue But Warner Brothers said Nah

We don't want to. We're going another direction. Yeah, because some of his ideas that he was talking about for Justice League 2 and 3, we were going to see Joker kill Robin. We were going to see all this other stuff play out. He had it playing all the way to Justice League 3. Because from what I was watching after this one came out, if you go back to Batman v. Superman, that nightmare sequence,

when Superman confronts Batman. They said he killed him right there because he pushed in and I assume stopped his art or something. They said he killed him. And I'm like, what? So, I mean, I want to put it and make it in the comic book form or something.

I want to see that or want to read it or something. I did hear the Zach Snyder was, if they're not going to let him make movies, because I'm sure this costs a trillion dollars to make. he was he was planning on doing graphic novels for for everyone else to to finish out his story and if that's the case if that's all we're going to get fine i mean that that's cool i'll buy it and i'll read it but i want to see what he was gonna where he's going to go with this is he going to bring in green lander is he going to bring in shazam at some point or i don't know i mean that's he go ahead he wanted he wanted to bring in green lander for this one but they Because, you know, HBO Max has that series coming out, so they've told them no. Man, I mean, just...

What about Batman? Oh, fuck. You know how to bring in Gleek and the Wonder Twins or WonderMut and all them from the first Super Friends. I thought Josh Whedon did Cyborg no justice. I mean, I heard and read about all the stuff that was going on. with Ray Fisher on set and everything. I mean, because they, like you said, Brian, it made Cyborg in the original one.

It made him like just a side character. This one, it made way more sense. Because even in that first film, I was like, it's kind of a little too early to be bringing in Cyborg. And why are they doing that? Because I was like, okay. I mean, I'll take it.

It's cool. But, I mean, I know a lot of little kids new cyborg because of that cartoon Teen Time yeah that I mean They knew cyborg from that So I was like hmm okay whatever Do what you want but this one what Snyder did with that

He was the main focal point of this of this whole story I thought and he got way more more screen time And he got to shine A lot more has this guy done anything else I've only seen him in this I know I think he comes from theater but the only other thing I've seen him on, he was in that third season of a true detective.

I haven't seen any of that yet. Zisu's been bugging me to watch him. But I don't know. I mean, he was a good actor. I thought he did a really good job. I would like to see more of him doing some other things. But I'm just mad that we're not getting anymore. Who knows?

Maybe Warner Brothers will think about them saying, And then just decide to give Snyder all the money he needs. Because it said this one costs $70 million. I don't know how they figure out how much it earned. Is it all these people that got new subscription? Or did they like not do the free trial yet? I mean, because I was like, this is a big movie. And I know a lot of people that I'm just going to do the free trial, watch the movie.

then cancel it, but I don't know. I haven't heard anything like as far as if it made money or anything. I'm sure it'll make its money back once it drops on physical media or just rent it and downloads or buy it down through downloads and everything. And Mike, you were right on the money. Zach Snyder does plan to release as an IMAX as a trilogy of films. he's going to try to... I don't know if he's going to edit them together,

but it's going to play with three movies. Okay, well, anybody want the lottery numbers for tomorrow, too? Well, I want the ultimate edition of Batman v. Superman, not the theatrical cut. I want that one. They'll probably put that one. I want the three-hour version. I don't want the two or whatever it was.

If there's a longer Man of Steel, give it to me. but again with those first two films I just didn't like them because Justice League Josh Whedon didn't it didn't make any sense on what he was trying to do maybe the higher ups told him look man just make your own movie and we'll

put it out and if that's what he did that's what he did I know they did a lot of reshoots and from what I understand Ben Affleck did Didn't take a pay he was like you know what I'll just do it I don't want to say um a couple of the other actors said yeah well we'll just do it Because I mean they all said they were done Henry Cavill or Cavill however he say his name and Ben Affle like both said well we're not We're not can do it anymore this this is it so

I don't know who they're gonna get to be Superman I mean we're obviously getting the Batman with Robert Battenson um I'm excited excited for that. I'll watch it. And then I know they're talking about wanting to do another Joker movie with Joaquin Phoenix. I think that's a bad idea. I think just leave that movie alone.

It was one and done. Leave it alone. I agree. And I guess JJ Abrams is doing the next Superman movie. Lens flare galore. God, man. All right. I mean, I'll see it.

But I mean, who, who? Who can be Superman? I mean, I wasn't even really hip on this guy being Superman. I met him and he was nice and I found out he was going to be Superman. And I was, oh, cool, right on. I mean,

I think he was at Comic Con for that movie, Mortals or whatever that was. I met him in the elevator in our hotel. I mean, he still wants to do it, but I think he just has a bad relationship with Warner Brothers now. And I think they might be trying to go somewhere else. but I read he's interested in doing it.

I mean, I'm also glad that they cut out all that bullshit with the, the record Ralph Chin in Josh Whedon's one when they had to... Oh, his funny lip. Yeah, that looked horrible. I mean, I forgot, in the very beginning of the film, Batman v. Superman?

No, no, no. Justice League, I think. Or was it? I think it was that one. Justice team. When those little kids are filming him, you can and I would have never noticed

it if people didn't point it out you can clearly see his jaw and everything. I don't know why he just didn't shave his beard. It wasn't like he had a full Zizi top or anything in Mission Impossible. It was just like a little fucking just dirt on his face.

He could have grew it back easily. Anyway, but I'm glad they cut all that bullshit out. There was none of that. But with I guess we should read a synopsis because it was totally different from the original. Fueled by his restored faith in humanity,

inspired by Superman's self-selfless act, Bruce Wayne and Liz, newfound ally, Diana Prince, to face an even greater threat. Together, Batman and Wonder Woman work quickly to recruit a team to stand against the newly awakened enemy, despite the formation of an unreceded league of heroes, Batman, Wonder Woman, Aquaman, Cyborg,

in the flash. It may be too late to save the planet from an assault from a catastrophic proportions. That was Google. Let me see what IMDB has to say. Um, slow internet, everyone. You guys know how it goes if you listen to our show. Uh, determined to ensure Superman's ultimate sacrifice was not in vain. Bruce Wayne, aligns forces with, uh, Dianner Prince and plans to recruit a team. of meta humans to protect the world from an approaching threat of a catastrophic proportions.

Written and directed by Zach Snyder and there's some other directors or other writers. And of course, Ben Affleck, Henry Caval, Amy Adams, Gal. Is it Godot?

Godot? How do you say her last name? Yeah. Kiss anyway. What a movie? It feels right. Gee-Gee. Yeah, Ray Fisher.

Jason Moa, Ezra Miller, Jesse Issaver. I hate him as Lex Luthor, but all right. Jeremy Irons, he's awesome as Alfred. Diane Lane. Shout out to D.C. and the Marvel for getting hot women to be older women. Diane Lane's beautiful, as well as what's her name, May from Spider-Man. What's her name? That old lady?

Oh, Marissa Yeah, Marissa told me. Oh, you weren't talking about the Ramey one? No. Who else? And a bunch of other people. Oh, Steppenwolf was the Iran?

I don't know, I'd say this. Syrian. Syrian hides. Has he been in anything? Yeah, man. That dude's like he was in um ghost ghost writer's spirit of vengeance he was the devil

um he was in he was in Munich um if you see his face you recognize yeah he was in that show the terror that was on AMC oh okay the first season but yeah him and um

uh yeah who played dark side that's what I'm looking I think uh Ray Porter um Is that here? Or did I miss it? Ray Porter.

And I don't know if I've seen him in anything else. Who was the other dude? God damn it. Which one? The one did decide. Oh, Peter Guinness. Okay. And right who the hell is Ray Porter?

He was Dark Side. I know, but I'm trying to. I don't know who he has never seen. I've seen all these movies that he's listed for, but I don't remember him. Oh, I know a lot of people hate her for the thing that's going on. Amber Hurd. I know she's not going to be in the next Aquaman because of the Johnny Depp thing. But I think she's hot, period.

How do you feel about the continuity? because in this one she had an accent well did she have an accent was she in the the just wean one yeah for like a second

yeah because I know she didn't have an accent in James uh James one Aquaman yeah and she had super red hair in that one yeah and uh Willem Defoe had long hair in this one and

I don't know. They didn't really go into, because when Arthur Aquaman, when he met, was it Volko? When he met him, you see Volko holding, I think that's how he pronounced his name, Green Goblin, everyone. He's holding the gold Aquaman suit. I mean, they didn't have, was there an exchange that I missed? Because he didn't even, like, give it to him. Because when they were talking, Aquaman was like, all right, man, whatever, had enough of you, and swam away. All right, really quick.

In James Wan's Aquaman, he got rid of this bubble that Snyder was doing for the Atlanteans to, so they were able to talk underwater. I didn't mind it, but after watching Aquaman, I kind of liked, they didn't need the. air bubble. They just spoke and you can understand them under water. But yeah, there was a lot of continuity errors when it came to Aquaman because in the

Aquaman movie he can breathe on land because he's half human half Atlantean. But apparently in Justice League they all can come on land and breathe there. Yeah, because if Mira, in the nightmare sequence

he's there with Batman and the gang they were out in the desert and a wasteland and I've no water anywhere so I assume Joker called her a fish stick yeah yeah and uh miles and he's and he said Batman gives reach around dude that was I mean that's Joker uh Joe Morton Miles Dyson aka Silas Stone uh it was good to see him and then there was many many other people that are in this. It was cool to see Jenny make her a little cameo. That was Jenny's name.

The Robin Wright. Yeah, that's... He was what? She was the captain of the guard. Yeah, I can't remember her name. We didn't get an invisible jet, man. Oh, I was an 84 and it was garbage. I can't even pronounce

an antioopee or antioop. I don't know, whatever, but she was in this. Oh, Antioope? Yeah, her. Yeah, there you go. Joe Mangonello, as Deathstroke,

I thought that was pretty sweet. Who else? Just real quick footnote, that figure is based, the McFarland one, one of my faves. Because that's who we modeled it after. Is that Zach Snyder one?

Because if Ben, Ben Affleck was able to do his Batman film. The bad guy was going to be Deathstroke in that one. And now we're not getting that. So, uh, that was that was Deathstroke at the end, right? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, that was him. Uh, of course, Jared Leto has the Joker. And then there's just many, many other people in this, but, um, not Clint Howard. He wasn't in it. No. Uh, speaking to Clint Howard. I might go down to Houston to the Houston Horror Fest.

He's going to be there. And it might be my only chance to meet him, have him sign my evil speak, Blu-ray. But anyway, have you seen that movie, Brian? Yeah. When's that? In June. I might send you my ice cream man,

Blu-ray for him to sign. that's what I need to get but all right I mean this is what a lot of people were flipping out about when the first theatrical cut came out Ezra Miller

as Barry Allen aka the Flash how did you guys feel about his performance Mike can go ahead first I thought he was cool little his little comical leaf stuff

I never watched the Flash I didn't watch a TV show but he's in the TV show show right no some different actor no it's different actor okay um i thought it was cool i thought um they could have did a little bit less of this the his little slow-mo thing like they could spread those scenes up a little bit more but um my favorite my favorite scene with him was uh wait a minute you have a satellite six or then what was that what's your superpower i'm rich i mean he was good for a little comical leaf

and yeah I didn't mind his character at all. I wanted to see more of that like the connection to him appearing to Bruce Wayne on that flashback that dream sequence

so yeah but I thought he was cool I mean I thought everybody did a good job but yeah going back I thought you know like like everybody says cyborg was the heart of the story in this one. I liked his character.

I thought he was pretty cool. But yeah, man, it was a, I thought Flash, I dug Flash. I never really was into that character, but this one made me a, you know, I could be a fan. I definitely liked him better in Zach Snyder's version. Just that introduction into him

with his, what was his love interest? Probably should have all this pulled up. A girl in the rec scene? Yeah, that's his love interest. Anyways, yeah, that whole scene. I just, I, Mike, I agree with you. There was a little too much slow-mo, but that opening scene of him going so fast,

he burned right out of his shoes, and then the way he went through that window, how the glass just rippled first. He was way more enjoyable in this one than the first one. And then a lot of people complain about the way he runs. I mean, he's not a track star. It's not, you know, he got the power of speed and he knows how to run perfect form. So it never bothered me.

And, yeah, I dug it, especially his scene where him and Cyborg had to work together at the end. you know with the mother box that that whole thing I really dug to yeah Iris West there you go yeah I didn't I didn't have a problem with him

I'm he was in Josh Whedon Josh Whedon's one I thought Jason Mamo and Ezra Miller like killed it in that one I think in Snyder's cut

um Jason Mamor they toned him down not um Because how, I mean, the videos and everything I see of Jason Mamoa as just being out there, being cool, riding his motorcycles and doing what he does. That's how wild and crazy he was in the first, in the original theatrical cut. Then he was a, ooh, yeah, party and all that.

That's, they toned him down in this one. I mean, I could see why, because this was a more darker version. They toned down the comedy between both of them because there was a lot. lot of common. I remember laughing through that whole film every time those two were on the screen. The part that I wish, I assume it was Josh Whedon's

deal that made me laugh the most in that one was right before they brought Superman back when Barry Allen was talking about well, when he comes back, is he can be the same or is he can be evil? And he goes like in Pet Cemetery. I thought they were going to bring

that part. They cut that the original. Yeah, I wanted that again. Just that one little scene, I thought that was funny because when he did come back and he went, Pet Sematry! And all that was cut to so, but I like Erzumilla. As an actor, I mean, before I'd seen him as the Flash. I mean, I've liked him in other films.

So, but I, again, this was a more darker version. And I was cool with it. The end, the very end, I mean, I know we're jumping all over everyone. But the end, when we see, when they go to Arkham and we find out that Lex Luthor, Jesse Eisenberg, escaped. I just don't like Jesse Eisenberg. I don't know. To me, he acts the same in everything he's in. Like Ice Cube?

Yeah, but I did like him in that one crazy weird movie. What was that movie, Brian? Oh, a bear in. Oh, man, that made my top ten list. that movie was awesome, but I still hate him. But he's not my Lex Luthor, man. If it's not Gene Hackman or what's his name from Smallville? Damn it, what the hell is the name?

I listen to his podcast all the time. Michael Rosenbaum. Yeah, there you go. That's Lex. But I don't know. I guess we're not going to see any more of him if Snyder doesn't get to do what he needs to do but I did uh I liked what they did what they changed the the ending but when he when he's having that talk with um Joe Manganollo the hell's his name death stroke I mean the because

in the theatrical cut he told him he goes yeah he goes I think we need to start our own legion to hinting the the legion of doom but even when I heard that I was I was all excited but now we're not getting it but in the end of the in this one he goes, all right, I can tell you who Batman is. It's Bruce Wayne. And that was supposed to lead into Ben Affleck's Batman movie. So we're obviously not getting that.

Which he, Joe Maganello, the Deathstroke was also supposed to get his own movie because they did like some test footage. And he looked pretty badass in that, in that costume. I mean, I like Joe Manginello. I mean, period. I mean, everything that I've seen him in,

I thought he was cool and he's got a hot-ass wife. But there he does. I want more of this and I and right now we're not getting it. Hopefully the higher-ups of Warner Brothers are rethinking their no. And maybe get us to a maybe or a yes. Well, it's up to the people, I think,

because you remember they said the Snyder cut didn't exist and the demand was just so overwhelming that there were okay there there is a Snyder cut but you're not getting it and then people just kept kept it up and here we are so I mean you never know uh well I think uh Wonder Woman needs another movie to make us forget that last one because that one was horrible I don't know what they were trying to do with that one but I mean but for this film being a totally different story.

I mean, bringing in Darkside, I thought that was pretty sweet. I mean, even going back to Batman v. Superman, bringing in Doomsday. I thought that was pretty good.

I mean, but I think the, one of the problems I had with this film, probably the only problem. We don't get Superman until two hours into the movie. That was,

I know that, I know there was a lot of buildup and everything and stories that needed to be laid down for everyone. All right, cool. but man, I wanted Superman, like, from the get-go. But, um...

And, and let me say real quick, the whole introduction of Lois, when he's, uh, Superman comes back and he's fighting with the Justice League or fighting against them, that made more sense in this one than them having what, what was essentially she was like a backup plan in the original version. Yeah. but this one her going to the memorial and mourning him every time made sense for her to be there yeah I mean the beginning of this one was was totally different from the other one because that other one we had Batman on the rooftop trying to catch one of those flying demon things

paradeemus yeah he was trying to catch one of those with what's his name I remember he was in fight club and he was a bunch he's one of those that guy type of thing wasn't he in like creep show too yeah he was the the Indian guy uh oh uh holt mccolony yeah him he was what was his name

of creep show too um Sam he was the guy with the hair yeah Sam white moon he's gonna make it to Hollywood yeah come on man Hollywood I mean there's there's real native actors out there ain't gotta get white guys and darken them up and put wigs on him but I do love that story

just real quick if you guys are Holmacholny fans check them out on that Netflix show Mind Hunter Oh excellent show Yeah he's He's in that

I love that dude's character Yeah come on Netflix Season 3 Come on Yeah man for real But he's wait He's in the beginning Of the Whedin cut

Yeah he's in the beginning Him and Batman's Helper He's he okay he's basically he's I think he's a burglar and Batman essentially uses his as bait for the pair of demons to come And that that's it he's in the movie for maybe like five minutes if that I mean but yeah That's what I knew when that in the beginning of that when that's when I kind of knew where it was going all right? This is gonna be a Slav-sticky comic style film. Yeah, they're all comic characters, but

But at the beginning of that, when you knew how the rest of the movie was going to go. And it did go. Yeah. And they took that scene, the one whole aspect of the first one out, with the family. Yeah. Oh, the Russian family? Yeah. When the parodemans were flying up to the window and the girl was trying to spray him with bug spray.

Because in that one, they made it seem like the parodemans fed off of fear. that's why they were able to get you they kind of mentioned it in this one but like like really quick and they didn't they didn't dwell on it as a part of the of their characters so i was like okay that was a reason why bad man used that dude to catch one of those things because he kind of batman held him over the over the ledge of this building and he was ah i was screaming and he was scared that's what brought out those paradigna but um the beginning of this one i i loved it how it went back to the death of Superman when Doomsday stabbed him through the chest. After I watched this, and that's when I had to go back and rewatch those, because I totally forgot

how Superman died. I knew Doomsday did it, but I couldn't remember how it happened. So, but I like that. And in the theatrical cut, they didn't go into the, unless I'm forgetting, because in this one in Snyder's Cut, the reason why Steppenwolf showed up and everything to look for those boxes is because

there was no kryptonian there. Superman was dead, so that's why they were able to come down and find them, because when Superman screamed at the beginning of this one, that like scream blast or whatever woke up the mother boxes. So that's where, ah man, they're on earth, let's

go. So I like that. Did they use that for the same excuse for Stebwold to come in the first one? No. Yeah, I would remember that. Kind of seem like he just came. Yeah, he just showed up. And there was no,

I don't even think him mentioning Darkside in the other one. I think it was just, he wanted him. Yeah, because there was more of an explanation that he had basically he had fucked up in the past and he was trying to make it right and earn his way

back to Darkside. Because in this one, in this one, he once he, he was trying to find those mother boxes for dark side. So dark side could come to Earth and destroy it because he said he destroyed what 15,000 other universes or planets or whatever. But Steppenwolf accidentally found out that Earth was the place for the anti-life equation. you guys are going to have to look that one up because that one was hard to explain but I mean I liked that that they brought that into this one

and because when Steppenwolf talked to Darkside through that little piece of metal or whatever it was that was holding the boxes when he was finding them when he told him that the anti-life equation was on earth and he was like oh what yeah I need to that's all right now I need to come now find that third box so I can come down

I was that the whole movie I was thinking Why didn't he just come anyway and help Stefan Wolf? I mean, before Superman jumped into it. Because he was obviously battling with them before Superman came. Yeah, I think they were, because they showed the last time he was on Earth. And I think he was trying to have the mother boxes together before the Justice League United,

because you saw what happened when everybody united in the original battle. he was because I heard people have a problem with a dark side losing you know catching an axe to the shoulder and just being dragged off and I think the whole point of that was everybody came together you know the the ancient gods and green lanterns and Amazonians and you know humans

I mean I liked that I mean like I think one of you said in the beginning I want to see that movie yeah when they were fighting dark side. I mean, because they did, they were saying that, um, the Amazonians and the, uh, Atlanteans were like, kind of like enemies. They, they didn't, they didn't talk or anything. But when they all had to come together to just put their, their bullshit aside to, uh, face dark side way, way back, however many years ago, I mean, I thought that was pretty sweet on what they did. I mean, they showed us a lot more and explained a lot more.

uh in sniders cut because in the josh wean ones like they just oh they they mention it they talk about it oh this is what happened and yeah and then that was it i was like okay i mean i i won't i wouldn't let no one put my name on a movie that i wasn't a part of uh and i don't understand why zach snider let them put his name on that movie because it wasn't it wasn't his movie though i mean i mean i mean look at why why did they keep uh you know it's like look at franchise you know why they keep throwing uh like john carbiter when they asked him well why you know what did you think about this Halloween movie and his first thing is hey i got paid so it's like you know if you know like for example look at poltergeist it says directed by toby hooper

but they toldby hooper himself said stephen spillberg directed most of the movie. Yeah. We didn't get a poltergeist cut. The remake was terrible. But it was, I mean, all in all the film was, it was well worth the weight.

You know, the hype up to it was pretty cool. The promotional material was pretty cool. And then finally, when it was on, God damn, I mean, I wonder how many people just watched it all at once. you know it was it was cool it was a good

it's this still ain't uh Avengers but you know it was cool for what it was I mean you can clearly see the whole I mean yeah it's the same formula

it's the exact same thing I mean even uh what's his name's a little line he stole from end game let's go get this son of a bitch and say yeah can't Capie used that already

Ready, dig deeper. I mean... Let's go get this sucker. That's what he should have said. I mean, I want another Batman movie with Ben Affleck. I mean, I'm all about Batflick. I was against it in the beginning when I found out he was going to be Batman. I was like, what?

Really? But... He is coming back for the Flash. But I want his movie. I want to see what he was going to do. I mean, Ben Afflex Academy Award winner. I mean, he's got his. He earned it.

He can write. He can direct and he can act. I know some of you people might not think so, but I like it. Let's clear that up. He's an Academy Award winner for writing. He can't act for shit. Yeah, he can't. Name one movie that he's not Ben Affleck.

Batman. Just a sleep. He's still Ben Affleck. He was good. The only thing he's not doing his crime. He was good in, what the fuck was that movie that Kevin Smith won? Morats.

He was awesome with that movie. He was still Ben Affleck. The only movie he wasn't Ben Affleck was the... Reindeer Games. Oh. Yeah. That was hell of good. We used to do that one, Brian.

No, the accountant. That's the only movie he wasn't Ben Affleck. I didn't see it. I haven't watched it yet. Oh, wow. Yeah, my wife loves that movie. That's a good one, especially because it has John Bernthal.

in it too. The Zissu said to watch it. It was like $3 during those Christmas sale. I'll take it. I haven't watched it yet, but I haven't. It's good. But I want, I still want another Batman, a movie with him. But if we're getting him in Flash,

is Ezra Miller the Flash in that? Yep, Ezra Miller. Originally, it was supposed to be the Flash and Cyborg, but his problems with Warner Brothers, they cut him out. So it's going to be Ezra Miller. Ben Affleck's returning and Michael Keaton is returning

as Batman also. He's not Batman. Wait, how's that? I think they're doing a multiverse. He's going to be an older Batman. That's, yeah, that's my fear. That's the pinnacle Batman.

Those two movies were garbage. No way, dude. He was a good bad man because you know why? Mr. You know why? Yeah, that's exactly. That's exactly why. No.

Like Tom Hanks, man. Tom Hanks, everybody thought he was just going to be a comedic actor. Shit. He blew everyone away with so far. And that's cool. It was like when an actor like, look how much everybody's going to hate on him.

Let's see. Who made the train? Let's see. Keith Ledger is the joke. like jokers had tons of hater rate through actors like Joaquin phoenix really boom blew us away Heath Ledger really boom blew us away and it's like Ben Affleck is Batman's like he was

skeptical but then you know he delivered he's got a fan base now but um for me that the 89 Batman's always been nostalgic because like I mean I just like well I'm I like Tim Burton I like that the way that they took it I mean it gave us a bleak view of Gotham City other than what we are used to saying with boom, pow, zoom. That's Batman.

There's only one Batman, and that's Adam West, rest in peace. The reason I know should be talking about Justice League, but the 89 Batman, the reason I didn't like it, it was just, I didn't like what Burton was trying to do with the character. I didn't like how Batman looked of him not had to turn his whole body to turn his head. I never like that. And killing off the bad guys in both films. Killed off the Joker.

Then he kills off the penguin. I was like, come on. I was like, oh. Remember alternate universes. No, I didn't like it. And what's his name? He didn't even get to shine. Billy D. as Two-Face.

We didn't get to see that. And I wanted more Catwoman, though, in the second one. But, I mean, but yeah, those movies are what they are. I do, I have all of them. I have every Batman movie that's out. I mean, because I love Batman. Batman is my favorite DC character.

That's why I have all of them. And I mean, I hate Batman and Robin, but I still have it. To me, out of those first, well, those, it wasn't the first four movies, the second, third, fourth, and fifth or whatever. I had, of those ones, I liked, what's his name, Val Kilmer as Batman. Batman forever. I thought that one was a good.

Nipples and all. I liked it. I thought Jim Carrey killed it as the Riddler. I wasn't feeling Tom Lee Jones's two-faced. Almost killed the franchise. Oh, my God. I like that one. Oh, my God. Why? Because it was awesome. And hell of good is not an excuse. It was hella good. Out of those?

You guys, you know it was. At all those before Chris Nolan's? No, it was. It was. It was better than the first two or not the first two. When was the last time you watched it? The other day. Watch it again and just look at it and then ask yourself, am I an idiot for liking this? No, man.

I love that one, man. Why? Because it was awesome. I love Joe Schualker. Rest and peace. It was all bright and stupid. Everybody was fighting for a paycheck. That's all it was.

I thought it was good. Is that the one where he had the bat credit card? Yeah. that movie was hot garbage it was it was hot all the way we're beginning to end Joel Schumacher should have just stuck with keeping the lost boys going that's what he should know someone took over those ones and ruined both of them but I saw it's it's just not dude you can't no god they had that grown ass man as robin what was his name yeah it was a chris O'Donnell yeah that's when I met LL Cool J and Burbank that's what I called him I was like

you and that show with Robin. And he started laughing. What is that show called? NCIS? Yeah. Yeah. I told him, I was like, my dad likes that show with you and Robin.

And he just started laughing. What is he done other than that TV show? Not L.L. Robin. Chris O'Donnell? That? I'm sure he's working somewhere. It's probably going to be in some

lifetime Christmas movies or something with Lorenzo Lomas and Candice Camion Bureau or whatever That's when you've gone to acting hell man But hey they're working So I can't hate on them I gotta try it

I mean shout out to big Jesse He watches all those Hallmark Christmas movies Hey real quick You mentioned something like in the Josh Whedon Cup What was Ray Fisher's thing on set Like was he divaing out or what

No It wasn't him It was Josh Whedon Yeah. He seems to have a reputation of treating people on said badly. And he chose him out of everyone. Because he was the, this is what I took from me. He was the unknown out of all of them.

I think that's why he was able to just use him as a kickaround. Hey, man, you're not anyone. You're lucky you're in this movie. I mean, that's how I took it from the things that I've read. I mean, I don't know exactly what happened, but... That's how they should have treated Finn in Star Wars. He says they did. It's like, he...

Yeah. Oh, anyway, um... Um, okay, so here's the question for you, for you guys. Uh, which, which scene in this one got you all tearyite? Or which, pick one out of, uh, out of the scenes that, or out of the whole movie. for autumn at the very end got me it does for autumn Zach Snyder's yeah I have to agree that got me at the end I was like oh fuck um but uh other than that one the when um uh Martha when she when she drove up inside yeah

Yeah, that was good. Yeah, that scene and that Superman, the piano cues always get me when his, the little soft piano tune they always play, when they reference him, especially after he died. Yeah. But I thought the part that gave me goosebumps was when they showed the Superman ship. and you heard that theme the other Superman theme that were really striking one I thought that was cool

I love music like I'm glad they brought Junkie Excel back to do the music and Han Zimmer like Han Zimmer man that dude like John Williams and Hans Zimmer man they're they kill movie music

I mean I like I liked what's his name's music and the other one um Oingo Boingo Danny else Yeah I mean I liked what he did in that one It fit that movie

I don't think The music he would have done Would have fit this darker version If I would have had to go with the scene I would probably go with the The death of Cyborg's father Because their relationship

Up to that I felt like they were kind of coming to an understanding and then come to find out he was sacrificing himself to not destroy the mother box but to heat it up so

they can locate it I thought that that was a pretty emotional scene right there I like when um when they're in the lab and then they're all walking they're all going to do something and then cyborg stops and looks at his dad and his dad's oh go you know it's like

it's still he still looked to his dad for permission. And his dad's like, go. I mean, that's who you are. The other part that got me was after Victor, Cyborg, when he, like, scored the touchdown at the game. And he was, ah, he was all happy. And all his teammates were cheering and screaming with him.

You go up to the, to the stands. You see his mom. And then he looks over and sees that empty seat. And then he's just, like, crushed. Like, fuck. my dad's never here because he just stood there and had that sad look on his face as every all i mean i love the shot really because all his teammates are all hooting and hollering high-fiving because they won the game but he's just like i don't care about anything anymore because my dad

wasn't there to see it i was like uh i mean that's a story i mean that i've heard not not for i never went through it personally when i did play sports my parents were there but a lot of my friends that went through that. Like, I wish my mom was here. I wish my dad was here. And hearing it through some close friends of that. So when I saw that scene, it just took me back to

when I was a kid listening to my friends. Not complain, but I'm mainly sad that one of their parents weren't there. So I think that part got me. I mean, there was another scene in it. I didn't, I knew it was for something,

but I didn't catch it. first time watching YouTube video somebody pointed it out it's the scene when when Bruce him and Barry the flash when they get in I don't like fancy cars

but that whatever that Mercedes car that Bruce that Bruce had when they drove off and they drive up onto the on ramp onto the freeway there's a huge billboard and it says you're not alone and that was a reference for

Zach's daughter Autumn because she She committed suicide And that was a suicide prevention I think there was a number there I don't remember the number and what it said I was like oh I want to go back and watch Josh Wheaton

Because I'm sure they showed that again It was probably something else There was a lot of product placements in these films I mean it was all throughout But I thought that one was really was really was good and it was touching. I mean, that was the reason why Snyder left the project

because the passing of his daughter. And I thought that was, when I first heard that when we first, when the first movie, before that one came out, I was like, oh, man. But I didn't know he wasn't coming back. I thought he was going to do what he had to do

and then go back. It actually happened, I think, before they started really filming the movie. And I think he tried to throw himself into his work. But it just was too much for him. Yeah, I mean, I totally understand on a personal level on how he felt. So, I mean, I think that's why that ending got me. I mean, a lot of movies that I've watched after. everything that went on in my life.

I mean, I see, other than I look at the world differently now, but I've noticed a lot of when movies like this, when they just little subtle things in this. I mean, like I said, especially when, when Martha Kent shows up back at the house and she sees Clark for the first time after he's back and how she just couldn't believe it and running up to her son.

Like is this is it you and I was like oh man even the in Josh Whedon's version that part got me So I knew that was coming in this one and I just didn't I just preparing myself for it But I mean and that that one was tough man and it was cool man I mean I loved When we're dealing with Superman as a character I mean what Richard Donner did I thought the that was cool with Glenn Ford and I can't remember the actress to play his mom. I like that. And the Man of Steel

with Kevin Costner and Diane Lane in that one, I thought they did a really good job. I know, I think they just, I think we just heard

Kevin Costner's voice in this one. I don't think they showed them. Yeah, that was, that was cool with the, um,

the crossover, voiceover with him and, um, him and, uh, Russell Crowe. Yeah. Mm-hmm.

I thought that was a good, A good touch. Off subject, Russell Crow was just cast in the next Thor movie. What? Yeah. Oh, what? They jumping all over the place. Yeah, so the Thor movie will not only have him and Christian Bale.

Oh, my God. Yeah, they're going big with that one. Oh, God. Eddie Murphy's going to be the next Black Panther. They just jump all over in these two. universes back and forth. There was Tachaca, Tachala, and there's going to be Joe Mama. Really quick, the MCU.

Do you guys watch the latest Falcon and Winter Soldier? Yes, yes. Well, not the latest one I saw the first one. Well, this isn't a spoiler, but the part that made me laugh is when when Sam was, or Falcon was talking to. to bucket. He goes, man, you spend a little time in Wicconda, now you're the white panther.

This second episode was way better than the first, I thought. So I'm hoping. Yeah, I like this interaction with the kid. Oh. It's like, hey, it's black falcon. He was like, no, I'm just falcon. My dad says you're the black falcon. So what do I just call you black kid?

I like that. It had George St. Pierre at the beginning. Yes. GSP, man. I'm a GSP fan. True. But I thought that was cool. He plays the same character.

He played in a Winter Soldier or Civil War. No, Winter Soldier. Yeah, a Bat Rock. Yeah, I thought that was cool. Yeah, real quick, I got to do some catch-knit because I'm stuck on that show Kingdom on Netflix. Oh, the MMA? Yeah. Okay.

No spoilers. I haven't watched it yet. Oh, dude. it's Frank Grillo, forget about it. He was badass and... What did we just watch, Brian? Boss level. Yeah, boss level.

Is that really good? I still have to watch that one, too. It's more of a comedy, but it's good. Still haven't watched Wanda Vision, man. I'm way behind on that. That's hell of good. Hero all the way. But back to Justice League.

I mean, I'm glad that there's... was more Alfred as well. Jeremy Irons, he's just an amazing actor, no matter what he's in. I'm glad that they gave him a little more time to shine in this one. I mean, it seems like they gave everybody more time to shine in this one. Well, shit, it was four hours, so he gave him more than enough time. But, I mean, overall, I think to me, this standout character was cyborg, Victor Stone, Ray Fisher. I thought he made way more sense in this one than in the first one. I mean, they kind of gave you the idea on who he is and what happened to him, but they didn't, that was it. And then they just threw him into battle when they were fighting Steppenwolf at the end in Russia.

I'm glad they cut out all of that because that was just, I mean, after the end of this one or what they did, that one just made, it was just too goofy. And like I said earlier With Jason Mamoa Aquaman being just screaming and hooting and hollering That's all he did at the end of that one Which I liked I mean I like Jason Mamoa Awesome guy I met him once But I'm kind of glad they just

Didn't even Bother with any of that I mean they'd because I mean that would There was really no point in showing that whole little Russian family At the end I mean it just It was just more killing time.

You get it showed more finding than everything. So, but, I did like how that they did go back to Russia to use that little, more than a silo. It was,

um, well, where were, it wasn't Chernobyl. Where were they? Probably, uh, what's,

Pripyat. Whatever, those big smokestack things were. I mean, I did like how, because I said there was a still plenty of radiation there. That's why I was able to to hide them.

Yeah, there was Chernobyl and then the town was Pripy up. We're gonna Chernobyl. Did you guys watch that? Hell yeah. Oh man. Brian, did you watch it? No, I wasn't in the right mood to watch that.

Yeah, you gotta be in the mood. I mean, that movie, that show was to me, it was scary. I could, because it was all real. And it's still scary. But it made me want to watch Chernobyl Diaries. I like that movie.

I like that movie. You didn't like that one, Brian? No. I didn't like the reveal at the end. All right. I was like, I'm going to make you watch it again for 31 days of horror because I liked that movie. All right.

But, I mean, this whole movie was amazing. I mean, we'd be here. all night. We're not going to break it down like we usually do. Because we'll be here all night. But I thought everybody in it got equal time to shine on the screen and everyone's story. And for me, I just want, I would want more of this. I want to see what Zach Snyder was going to do with two and three. But I don't know if we're ever going to get it. If we get it, Cool. I mean, I would like to see, I mean, dealing with Wonder Woman, I would like to see another, maybe not the earlier days. I would like to see more on, was it an island of paradise, whatever was her place called, the island she was from.

Themisgira. Yeah. Themiscera. I'd want to see more of that. I mean, I just, I want to see nothing but that. I mean, I love Robin Wright, Jenny. I mean, I want to see more of her. I thought she was just a badass character. in that first Wonder Woman movie. But I don't know. I'm hoping whatever they're doing with the next Wonder Woman film. Take your time and just think about it and give us a better, bad character.

I mean, nothing against Kristen Wigg. I love her, but that Cheetah was. And was Gene in that one? No, he wasn't. sorry they cut that out completely or just didn't even film it i mean because he told me he was going to be in it but i guess not so um do you know the story behind that yeah he told me a little bit yeah but uh as far as aquaman i did like that movie for for what it was but um I don't know what they're doing with this next one.

And, uh, but, uh, well, they obviously got to do, find another mirror. So I don't know. I don't know. This whole universe is all up in the air right now. And I don't, I don't know what they're doing. I think that's the, the whole thing that the thing going to be with the flash movie. I think they're going to reset everything with the, the, what is it, the flashpoint paradox?

Is that what they're doing with the MCU as well? With Dr. Strange and Spider-Man? I don't know. You did, you could speculate on that, especially after Wanda Vision, so many theories. Yeah, I mean, if you look at both of these, I mean, they're,

DC is trailing way, way behind. Because they, they don't have as many movies. But they, I see them Warner and all them trying to compete with them. I mean, it's two totally different things. Yes, MCU is much, much better. But they don't have the problems that Warner is giving DC. But if you guys want to watch awesome things, watch all the animated stuff that's on HBO Max. All that stuff on there is awesome.

I don't understand. I've said this on the regular show. why can't the live action stuff take note from what those guys are doing? Yes, they can do a little more because it's animated, but their stories are way much better. And maybe get one of those directors or those writers to come over and make a live action film.

I don't know. Yeah, let filmmakers that are fans of the material make the movies. I know. Don't get... Someone that's never made, doesn't even read the source material and make a comic book movie. I just, I don't like that. But, I mean, Zach Snyder, again, I didn't really care for his first two movies the first time I watched him. But I think what he did with this one, it made those ones make more sense.

So I thought it was really good. I was also reading something that was saying that this made Wonder Woman, 84, make more sense. I don't know how. I only seen that movie once. I'll take their word. I'll take their word for it. I was about to say, send me that article so I can read it because I don't understand how it makes that movie better. I was excited for it.

And then when we finally got it, I was like, that's it. I don't know. Anything else about this film before we get out of here? No, I think that's. that's it for me i think we i mean like you said if we if we did a regular show how we usually do we'll be here for hours longer than four hours and uh we're trying to stay away from those three hour shows so but uh oh time cop oh yeah i mean we're still up in the air on that one i mean even with mike when we did a total recall we left we still didn't know if that really

happened or not but recall? Yeah, remember we did that one? We went round and round. Was it real? It wasn't? I guess it's just up to the view. I mean, Jesus, don't get to get, don't get into inception. Oh, gosh. Well, well, speaking to that, we're going to tackle it because the Zisu says he can explain it to me. I only seen it once and it went right over my head. I mean, I love Well, just like you put me on the spot at that one show he went to, you know, my brother here can explain the whole phantasm thing. That too, man. If you didn't explain it to me that one time, I ought to went, what? And I told them, I told it, it got summed up in one line.

And the last movie confirmed it. And that's that one line was, Brian, are you a Fantasm fan? Oh, yeah, but I have no idea what the fuck's going on. So you saw the last one, right, Ravager? Yeah. Okay. And the tall man summed it up, and I think part three is when, or part three or four,

was when he said, ice cream man, it's all in his head. And part five, Ravager confirmed that. It was all in Reggie's head. I need to rewatch that one. Yeah. Yeah, because remember he was in that home. And that was the world he preferred was to have Jody and Mike in that world and chunk, that little dwarf dude. I just remember it turned into Mad Max at the end of that one.

Yeah. But yeah, man, that's, I love getting into debates with people on these. Facebook pages I belong to you about that movie. And so, first of all, man, you're like eighth generation phantasm fan. I'm first. And, oh, I always post that thing about you with you and Don Coscarelli.

Remember who would have winning a fight, Michael Myers of the Tomin? I still have that video. Oh, man. We're going to have to eventually tackle that whole series. We only did the first movie like once, but I'm sure we'll do it again. But

I'm telling you, man, look, you guys got to get you you got to watch and review vigilante force is that on anything uh I don't think so I sent it to uh I sent that his recommendation to Brian once that one

and a defiance by all them 70s ones defiance Rolling Thunder Jan Michael Vincent one yeah what did you what did you what did you say

what movie I'm sorry okay Vigilante Force, Rolling Thunder with William, William Devane and a young, very young, Tommy Lee Jones. And White Line fever.

White Line fever and defiance. Uncommon valor. Yes. Digitalante Force. I did see this one. Yeah, with Chris Christopherson and Jamichael Vincent. Yeah. Oh, man.

What year was this? 76. Yeah, I saw that in a theater with mom. I saw it in the drive-in. Ah, damnation alley. Love that movie. Goofy. It's hell of goofy, but I love it.

That's one of the, that's like, Jaws 3. That's like a guilty pleasure movie. It's like, it's not very good, but it's like, it's, we watch it. We love it. Josh 3 is hell of good. I don't care what anyone says. Even my kids hate, all my kids hate it. But I don't care, movies is awesome.

But, yeah, Zach Snyder. There's Justice League all four hours And is amazing if you got HBO Max I'm sure you guys have all seen it already but Um If you haven't seen it and your physical media A person, it's coming out to Steelbook in May Um, I think it's a Best Buy exclusive

But um speaking of Best Buy exclusive Did you pre-order Mortal Kombat? Brian? Yeah, I just, just actually I just got an email saying, I got to go pick it up tomorrow. Oh, man. I mean, I missed out.

Wait, which that, uh, the, the double one? The new one that's coming out? No, they're putting the original two movies in, in a steel book collection. Okay. If I see it, I'll pick it up for it. Oh, no, I don't, I'm on it right now. I can, I can, I'm going to buy it and pick it up tomorrow. Oh, okay.

Because all we go saying, unavailable, unavailable. Because I remember it was. was on pre-order but then I thought it was gone. Oh dude, I just, I pre-ordered that American World from London those Nazi demon. Oh, yeah. I did too.

On the neck of figures. Yeah, I went to, I went to whoremerch.com. It's 3299 and it's one body, but it has four heads, torches, machine guns, knives. Horror, what? horror merch m-r-r-c-h-com

oh here it is merch store they got some good t-shirts on that side too yeah it should be available for pre-order just one up today oh man they got that uh pumpkin mask from uh Halloween 3 yep and um they're releasing later on uh they're releasing the werewolf action figure from American Whirawolf in London

did you end up that uh howling one from Shelf Factory? No, I never I know they're still available. The bloody ones aren't. That was a Comic-Con one. Yeah, but the other one is I'm still, there's still some available,

but we really got my blood flowing was the Kurt Russell McCready. Neck is doing that one. That comes out in October, I think. Wait, for September. This is one figure with all these heads? Yeah, these interchangeable heads. Oh, man.

I thought it was all. four of them. Well, you buy four bodies. But I don't open, I see, I don't open mine, though. Oh, see, that I, it's cool for me because I do Photoshop, like when I do my, my, uh, pictures. So, well, if I see it somewhere, I'll pick it up. But, uh, I don't know. I didn't know. I didn't even know that was this site existed. All right. We'll get out here. We'll be all night talking about other things. everyone

thank you so much oh whoa what are we watching next we are going back to 1986 for band of the hand oh yeah now I need to look for it

I love that film you don't have you didn't buy it on Blu-ray oh I have it okay I bought it after you told me you had it I didn't even know it was out on Blu-R I found it in

I got it fries for like a dollar 99. I think mine was like 10 from Walmart. All right, sweet. Definitely. We got that one coming for you and then we got the next stream fiends. We're going to do Godzilla versus Kong or

whatever the hell they want to call it. I want to be on that one. I know the ending. I saw the ending already. Oh, God, dude. Why did you do that to you? I had to see. I couldn't wait. What? Yeah. Someone threw it on

YouTube. I saw the hit teams. See, no, I just, I'm all off of social media. Just, you know, just, just like with, I forgot what other show came on, but I was, I'm all off of social media. Try not to look at anything about that, not even trailers, nothing. Well, don't

read the reviews because they're already out. I just want to go in there raw, just raw. No cover, just raw, flesh to flesh. Yeah, I like it raw, like ODB, rest in peace. Are you going to movie theater see or are you going to watch it at home? I'm watching at home because I ain't done my 14 days. Tomorrow will be seven days.

Next Tuesday is when I'll be fully vaccinated. All right. So I'll go see it after. So much shit I got to do. I have my book, my list of shit to do after my thing. I'm going to go get tattooed again. after I'm all good because the tattoo parlor by my crib is open.

Yeah, they're all open in the arena, are you? You're going to brave the theater, Brian, or stay at home? Oh, my theater's still closed. Dang. I mean, I know they all opened up here, but nobody's going. Every time I drive by, the lots are empty. I would love to go because the AMC down here for the first showing, it's 30%

I'd just be you in there. I wouldn't mind. I wouldn't mind going, but you know. Yeah, I think I have one open and they're trying to do the rent out a theater for, I think, like, a hundred bucks. We're going to do that for Black Widow. One of my buddies at work wants to do it because he, he's a high roller, and that's all he does. He goes, every movie I've gone to was the private screening. I said, Dan, where you work at?

But you figure if you take your family with you, man, that's close to 100 anyway. And especially if you go to IMAX, I'll never do that again with everyone. Because I was like, fuck. I didn't do it. I did the whole family thing for endgame. And that was that, that was hurt in my pockets. Yeah, I had to do some extra shifts after. I don't know what we saw, but it took everyone.

Yeah, my wife, because my wife's a big MCU fan. had to get the damn popcorn tin collectible cups. Yeah, that's where they get you. They still had the last time I walked in a movie. I just bought popcorn. They still had the Wonder Woman 84 bucket tins in there. Can't give those away. And they're still showing it too.

But I don't know. All right, everyone. Yeah, Band of the Hand, Stream Thienes. No, no, no, action returns and Kong, whatever, Godzilla, whatever you want to call it. Watch this, what was it?

What year did that first one come out, Mike? Shit. 64. Yeah, I think so. Watch that one, everyone. That one is the best fight scene. I hope we get the tree in the mouth. And then I want to see Kong dusting himself off

when he gets blasted. 63 is on that one. came out. Oh my God. And they better have the the strong string. Remember when that guy, that's what they carried Kong with.

When they roped him up. Oh, and those balloons? Yeah. And I want to see, I want to see Kong bite the, the power lines to get more juice so he could fight.

Yeah, I want to see Godzilla deliver a roundhouse. Oh, I want to see a drunk Kong. That's a Chris from the smudgy Chris kept saying. Are they going to have the drunk con? Yeah, I want to see that and I want to see a giant octopus fighting Kong. We saw that already.

Which one? In Skoll Island. I don't even remember. I don't have to rewatch that one. He ate it. Oh, that's right. He inked it. Ferry stepped on it, inked. Does either one of you have that

the Godzilla criterion collection? The first one? Or that one with all of them? Yeah, that one. Oh, dude. Every time I see that, it winks at me, but no, I don't know. How much is it?

130? Yeah, I'm kind of, I'm still trying to wait for that price to go down a little bit more than I think on my jump on it. Yeah, and it's only a Barnes and Noble exclusive. They rape you in there with everything.

I know, no reach around. None. It's like their sale price is everybody else's regular price. But I got bummed out because we used to go there every weekend almost and they took out their collectible section. Star Wars figures

and everything took everything out. Yeah, they got nothing in there. The one in Reno's all junkie. It's like they don't even care. They just throw it all on the shelves. I'm telling you, man, you got to come to Blast from the past. Is that that place in Burbank? You come down there, but you'll go home dry.

Like, depleted, credit cards, done. Because everything you've ever looked for is in there. Well, Ziso and I are coming down. He said May. We're going to be down there because he wants to go to Funko Hollywood. Yeah, go there to that Hollywood place. And I said, I want to go to that place in Burbank. So he's all right, whatever.

There's three spots you got to go to then. You got to go to Funko Pop. You got to go to this one place out in city of industry called Franken sons. It's like they got this Costco-sized building, and it's just all like any vendor you would see at a con. It's all vendors in there. It's like a flea market of action figures and collectibles. Damn, man, I'm going to be broke. I'm telling you, man, you better.

You better get them shifts going. You better get them shifts jumping off and start selling some shit because, man, you're going to go home. You're going to have to ship stuff. Because Blastin the past, man, they got everything. They got like the Boba Fett with the rocket firing out of his backpack. The Kenner one? Yeah, dude. I'm telling you, dude, they got everything and they've ever wanted.

I'm just looking for Jason stuff. That's my main thing. They got, yeah, they got a neck. They got three neck of sections. in there which is everything they got they got pops they got stuff behind the counter stuff in cases

you gotta find all my Sasha Banks figures oh my gosh Sasha oh so fine I should cue up her music but we'll be here all night everyone but

she was what Is that even a real name? No her name is Mercedes something Mercedes Jackson I don't know what her name She's hell of fine. Hella hot.

She was hot and Mandalorian, too. I'll send you that picture where her fucking hair was coming off. Well, all right, everyone. And we veered off again. So, yeah, just listen to all our past episodes when you can. Yeah. Just be safe out there, everyone. So until next time, party on.

wear your damn masks that too be safe everybody