The Horror Returns - The Action Returns - Ep. #40: Infinite (2021)

Episode Date: June 23, 2021

This episode Brian and Nez find themselves caught in a war between the Believers and the Nihilists in the 2021 Paramount + film INFINITE.    Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.faceb...ook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns    Join The Horror Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns   Join the THR Presents: Stream Fiends Facebook Group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/3860579827402429 Follow THR Stream Fiends on IG: @thrstreamfiends

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Thanks for coming in today, Evan. Please, look, I know what it looks like. But my illness isn't an issue you have to worry about. I promise. Hey, be in touch. Okay? Excuse me? Look, I know the brush off when I hear it.
Starting point is 00:00:21 Mr. McCauley, you are clearly awesome at dealing with conflict. You have no idea. Thanks for coming in. But you're right. I don't think I will need to be calling you. Do you think you know my story because you're at a bad? I crunch check made a couple of phone calls. I knew yours when I shook your well-moistrized hand.
Starting point is 00:00:43 I thank you for your time. I need some action tonight. Back to another episode that action returns. I'm your host, Brian. With me as always, my brother, Nez. What's up, man? Oh, man, I'm here. That's not all I can say.
Starting point is 00:01:17 Yeah. Yeah. Another day. Another day. Yeah, another day. Yeah, another day. Another headache, but that's another show, everyone. But yeah, let everyone know why we're here.
Starting point is 00:01:31 We're here to talk about the new Paramount Plus sci-fi action film, Infinite. Evan McCauley, diagnosed with schizophrenia at 14. After carving the words, look inside into your chest with a box cutter. Look inside. Why those words? Which one of these? It's yours. Look, you could skip the...
Starting point is 00:02:18 Whatever the hell this is, because none of that is mine. Was it yours? I don't know what you're talking about. I don't know. Jesus! Every time you say, I don't know. This trigger gets pulled. Is it yours?
Starting point is 00:02:39 Look, I don't know. Are you out of your mind? Last chance, Evan. Is... Hello, old friend. First life, Evan. You're talking about reincarnation. You can remember.
Starting point is 00:04:03 You know how we do. We got to go to Google first. Let's see, who does it better, Google, IMDB. Google's synopsis is the hallucinations of a schizophrenic are revealed to be memories of past lives where he obtained talents that he still has to this day. I was actually kind of short for Google. And I and D.B. Where's the synopsis? This is actually kind of lengthy, a little bit lengthy.
Starting point is 00:04:37 A sci-fi action adaption that examines the concept of reincarnation through remarkable visuals. It's not really a synopsis, is it? Well, well-known established characters who need to use their memories and past, learn skills to ensure the future is protected from, infinites that seek to end all life on the planet. Okay. This star is Mark Wahlberg. Forgive me if I mess up your name.
Starting point is 00:05:10 I can never pronounce it. Chihuahua for. Okay. Yep, go with that. Sophie Cuxon, Dylan O'Brien for a few minutes. Jason Manzoukis, Rupert friend
Starting point is 00:05:26 Toby Jones Johannes Hakur something Liz Carr and a bunch of other people this is directed by Antoine Fukuwa
Starting point is 00:05:39 everybody knows him from what Training Day Magnificence of 7 the Equalizer so he's got a got a pretty good history here
Starting point is 00:05:49 Nez what did you think about Infinite What I think about the Matrix 4 this is fairly new so I guess we won't spoil it but yeah this will probably be a short one because I don't think we should really give away anything I was with the movies what not even a month old yeah it wasn't very long either it wasn't two hours that that's what I
Starting point is 00:06:18 figured most of these movies are but kind of felt like it at times it did but but but But overall, I mean, I liked what was happening. Marky Mark, he is who he is. I'm not even trying to pronounce the bad guy's name, but he was Bath, Bathurst, I think. He was good all the way through as the bad guy. I didn't get the reason why. I'm not going to spoil it, but I didn't understand why.
Starting point is 00:06:52 I don't know. I think this is one that either got to. watch a couple times to get or whatever. But I guess this was based off of a novel, the reincarnationist's papers. Yeah. If I said that right. I thought the action and everything was good.
Starting point is 00:07:14 I mean, the car chases and when they were doing the shoot-em-up stuff with the guns and everything, a little bit of hand-to-hand. Um, the effects were cool for, for, for what was happening. Um, everyone that was in it acting, nobody, I mean, everyone did their part. I mean, the movie was what it was. But yeah, I mean, would I have saw this in the theater?
Starting point is 00:07:47 Most likely I would have because I, I like Mark Wahlberg. So I would have went and seen it. but I think I would have probably It would have been cool to see on the big screen With all the stuff that was going on Action-wise But I think I would have probably felt a little jipped
Starting point is 00:08:07 Especially with the end I was kind of invested in the beginning But then once you figure out what's happening You're kind of like Really But then And then it ended Yeah like like I said
Starting point is 00:08:22 earlier the Matrix it's it kind of felt like that at times and then it kind of felt like a Mission Impossible movie with the crazy stunts that final stunt I was like I was but it was what it was
Starting point is 00:08:42 I took it for a day it was just just good enjoyment good popcorn movie but yeah I mean I don't know why they went with almost not really the same idea as the matrix but it's got those the feeling of it
Starting point is 00:09:02 because in the matrix they were hooked up into this computer world that wasn't real reality was an apocalyptic world this one it wasn't in the real world but it was Marky Mark's character. Evan McCauley, what is his name?
Starting point is 00:09:29 Yeah. But then he was, I don't want to give that away. But he was just living his life and he was able to do things and know things that he didn't know why. He thought
Starting point is 00:09:48 he was a schizophrenic or something. Something was wrong with him because he was like a human Wikipedia. He knew all this stuff if somebody asked him, like crazy history questions. And he knew. But, I mean, these people found him and basically trying to teach him, okay, what you know isn't what's really going on. I mean, it all took place in the real world. there wasn't in another dimension or anything, but it was, um, it was kind of like a person that, uh, was somebody else, but he did like,
Starting point is 00:10:28 he, he was someone else, but he didn't know it. And these people that found him, they were, they were, there was two different groups. There was the believers and the nihilists. The believers were the good guys and the nihilists were the bad guys. And the believers were trying to teach him that. what you know isn't really the world you know you know all this stuff uh for a reason so they were trying to make him be a believer to uh like all this knowledge in his head it wasn't just something that was like programmed in his head or it wasn't something that um he read in a book they were trying
Starting point is 00:11:10 to tell him that you lived these lives and you know this stuff that's why you know what you know you know and in do what you can do mm-hmm so I was like hmm okay I I like that but then once the story got going and yeah I want to give anything away but I mean once it got going when the action started when he pretty much became a believer to where all right I'm in and I'm gonna help you guys solve this this mission so it goes from there And the believers are the bad guys that were also after Mark Wahlberg's character. Because he knows, other than all the stuff that he knows, he knows something, the location for something.
Starting point is 00:12:00 So that's why they wanted him to see if, basically, if he could remember what they were looking for. So that's, and this mission, it started off in New York, and then it kind of like went all the way to, the other side of the world and ended up in Indonesia for some reason. I didn't really understand why they went to Indonesia, but okay. But, I mean, that was pretty much the story. It was them trying to convince him to who he is and to help him on this mission and basically save the world. And not really get the girl.
Starting point is 00:12:41 There were some hot girls there, but yeah, it was just basically help us with this mission. and find out who you are and save the world. And with all that being said, then with the cars and the shoot them up and the fighting and everything, and then all that took place. So, but overall, it was what it was. I mean, I enjoyed it.
Starting point is 00:13:04 I mean, there was a few times where I was a little like, okay, I started poking on my phone, but you got the gist of what was going on. And the ending, I wasn't, really satisfied with but the very very ending that put a smile on my face maybe it'll lead into more movies
Starting point is 00:13:24 I don't know I mean I can see that it can go to more movies but I don't know how they're going to determine if they do that since this wasn't in the theater so I mean it was just strictly paramount plus so I don't know if
Starting point is 00:13:44 people to subscribe to it, but I don't know. We'll get the next movie. It's called The Matrix 4. Heanu and everybody's coming back. What would you think of this one? Okay. I like the cast. Yeah, I probably would have seen this in the theater, you know, because of Mark Wahlberg.
Starting point is 00:14:09 I didn't recognize at first the actress, the main one that was in it, Sophie Cuxon and I had to look her up because she kind of looks different than the first time I seen her she was in the Kingsman. She was the one, the one female agent, I guess, or whatever they were called, Kingsman. The other one I remember was the one with the crazy blade feet.
Starting point is 00:14:35 Okay. Yeah, well, she was, I think she was Lance a lot or whatever. and yeah I like Chua Tuel Edgual Ford I'm pretty sure I'm saying his name wrong but I like him as an actor we're going to see him again as Baron Mordor
Starting point is 00:14:55 and Dr. Strange I like the concept of this you've lived all these lives and you're not only retaining the memories but the abilities that you've learned over the years the skills, the, the, the, I guess, if you were, if you made pottery a hundred lives ago, you would just know how to do pottery in this life, you know, little, you know, things like that.
Starting point is 00:15:27 You know, I, I dug that concept, but it was just, this movie would lag at times. And then I just didn't understand the motivation for, what did you call them, the nihilist? Yeah. I didn't understand the motivation. I just, I really didn't. I didn't get it. Maybe I was, I, there was times I also was like messing around on my phone and maybe I missed something, but I just, I didn't, I didn't feel the motivation.
Starting point is 00:15:58 I didn't feel like there was a real end, well, there was an end game for what they wanted to do, but I just didn't understand why they wanted to get there. and they were going through, I don't know, how many lives to fulfill this plan. And I just, I don't know. But the action was good. I liked certain people that popped up in here. Jason Manzuchas, he was the, I don't know what he was supposed to be because he got, he got. Yeah, he got kind of mad there when they tried to gender, genderify him or whatever, whatever the term is.
Starting point is 00:16:44 Because they called him a he. And I was like, oh, okay. I don't know what's going on. He's always funny when he shows up in movies. But this, yeah, this felt too much like the Matrix. It just felt a little too Matrix-y. It just kind of made me look forward to the upcoming real Matrix sequel. and I don't think this will
Starting point is 00:17:10 I don't think we'll see a continuation of this based off of the ending the the okay the ending ending was cool I like that but you know there's without spoiling there's going to be some characters that we're not going to see in a sequel so I don't I don't know if that's necessarily
Starting point is 00:17:35 going to work because there was certain characters that drew you to this movie and that whole scene I don't know damn it's really hard not spoil shit but the the the end scene but the big I guess action scene at the end was kind of lackluster for me and it just kind of
Starting point is 00:17:59 the things were happening and then it just kind of ended and that was it yeah and I honestly I would have felt fucking cheated in the theater I mean, I like the buildup to what was going to happen at the end, but then when it happened, you were kind of like, hey. Yeah, I mean, you were just waiting for, I wanted to see what was going to happen if it happened with this certain object. And then there was a fight scene in a place. I didn't think a fight scene was going to happen.
Starting point is 00:18:35 And then just ended. And then cuts to. whatever 10, 15, 16 years later, and then the movie's over. I understood the conflict between the believers and the nihilists. I mean, if I try to, if I explain it, it'll, it's too much of a spoiler thing. But I understood, basically, the believers wanted life to go on for certain individuals, and the nihilists were tired of life going on for certain individuals. So that's why they were having this conflict, and that's why the nihilists wanted to stop the believers.
Starting point is 00:19:25 Because from what I understand, it says here, there are about 500 individuals in the world who can remember all their past lives, and those people, people are known as the infinites. So, I don't know if it's half and half, or I don't know how many are believers, and I don't know how many are nihilists, but these...
Starting point is 00:19:44 But wouldn't the nihilus outcome be a little bit more damaging to a lot more people than just them? Yeah, because the actual end game, to throw that in there, I got that vibe of, um, If the nihilists accomplished what they wanted, would have wiped out.
Starting point is 00:20:10 At first, they kind of said it would have wiped out, like, not half of humanity, but... A good portion. Yeah, a good amount of it. So that's what they wanted to do. And I assume this amount that would get wiped out would be all 500 of the infinites. and then all the average Joe's like us. So, but, so I mean, I understood the conflict of what they were trying to do. But, um,
Starting point is 00:20:46 for some reason I thought this was a part of a game. This was because of a game, but it's not. I was thinking a halo infinite, but I don't think this is it. But, um, again, I mean,
Starting point is 00:20:58 I liked what they tried to do with the storyline. I mean, I mean, I want to know, is there someone sitting there reading this going, hey, man, this sounds like the Matrix. I mean, or is that what they were going for? Or is this in that timeline? I don't know. But according to Wikipedia, it says it received negative reviews from critics who criticized the performances in screenplay with some comparing it unfavorably to the other films like The Matrix. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:29 I mean, that's the vibe. I got watching it because I I didn't watch no trailers I didn't read into it I just clicked on it and took it for what it was but yeah it's it is what it is I mean don't nothing to write home about but I mean I think my my big interest in it other than Mark Wahlberg was and it goes to Wall Street that documentary he did when he was everything was going good then COVID happened and they had to stop this. I don't know how much they filmed before they had to stop
Starting point is 00:22:05 and then everything. So, because I was like, I never even heard of this movie he was making. So once I found out this was coming to Paramount Plus, I was like, oh, okay, so now I wanted to see it. But now that it's said and done, I'm like, eh, okay. Yeah, this was supposed to come out August of 2020
Starting point is 00:22:23 in the theaters. But didn't even come to the theaters, even in 2020, 2020. So, but, um, yeah, I looked, I looked around to see if it was in the theater, but it wasn't. Well, it would, since the theaters are opening up now, I think it would have been a bad time for it to come out because we're, we're getting what, Fast 9, uh, Black Widows coming out. I think it would have just got lost in the shuffle. I was waiting for James Bond.
Starting point is 00:22:55 No time to die. That's what I'm waiting for. But, uh, the first 25 minutes of Fast 9, who. yeah i'm gonna go see it so but i mean infinite i mean it is what it is i mean just enjoy it for for what it is and it the story isn't really that hard to figure out one i mean they lay it out for you um but it just wasn't executed well and it was just again rip off of uh of the matrix yeah there's good sci-fi action in it and if you like Mark Wahlberg then you know this this might be for you
Starting point is 00:23:40 but it just for me it just kind of missed the mark and Mark Wahlberg he's starting to look a little old in the face yeah but those guns are still there man yeah I was just I was just saying to my wife I like how people you know are like you know like the rock or somebody will be in the movie and They'll have a job where there's no reason they should even be that big. Because Mark Walker trying to get a job at it like a restaurant. Yeah. He was going to be the matri-D or something.
Starting point is 00:24:14 Yeah, because I brought up an example. You ever see The Rock in that movie Snitch? Yeah. Yeah, he was just a truck driver. It was hell buff. Yeah. Well, shit, I thought, I thought Marky, Mark. was older.
Starting point is 00:24:32 He just turned 50 this month. He's pretty much the same age as me. I wish I looked like him. If you can have trainers and fucking guys that'll cookie your food. I guys working out as we're speaking right now. Yeah. I mean, in that documentary, man, that's all he was doing was working out. I mean, like the rock, him too.
Starting point is 00:24:58 All he does is work out. Work out, make movies. Work out. Whenever he gets a break, maybe once in a while step into the ring just to hype everyone up. Work out. Make babies. Work out. He's coming back.
Starting point is 00:25:13 I heard. Come back at SummerSlam and beat up John Sina one more time for us. Just a little, little wrestler returns. I heard it's going to be Roman and John Sina at Summer Slam and then the Rock sometime after. He's incumbent. out some some at some point when uh roman because i think john sinna is just about out the door but uh i'll say romans be getting his ass beat and then stina's about to pin then all of a sudden if you smell and ah we're going to go nuts and not even care about what's going on the ring
Starting point is 00:25:51 as long as the rock acknowledges the head of the table no he the rock is the head of the table he's going to come back and decide he wants to be the head see we just wrote the next storyline but they ain't listening they're going to give us something stupid oh yeah we're going to have a wrestling returns on hell on the cell
Starting point is 00:26:12 and I got a lot to say because there's some news that just recently came out and if I didn't already subscribe to Peacock I probably would have canceled my WWE subscription because they have
Starting point is 00:26:28 no idea what they're doing. I'm invested too much in everything else on peacock, so I'm good. Yeah, but as far as infinite, if you got Paramount Plus, I mean, I know a lot of people say they didn't want it because there's nothing on it that interests them. I don't know, but that's just what I'm reading. I like everything on there. I'm good, but as far as, is this the first movie? they put on there i think i want to say that sponge bob movie was first well first live action
Starting point is 00:27:09 movie yeah which uh people just just hold on because uh you're about to get a quiet place too and then they're about to start doing the straight to paramount plus movies like the new paranormal activity and i know lance is getting excited for another pet cemetery movie so they're they're gonna start pumping out stuff I mean you have to you know we're in the streaming wars right now yep I guess Amazon's the only one winning
Starting point is 00:27:41 but as HBO Max I think it's those two are battling it out I mean I have all of them but I don't know we'll see but yeah infinite Paramount Plus check it out if you want I mean if you got nothing else
Starting point is 00:27:56 watch or if we're selling it you or you're interested or are you just a Marky Mark fan check it out let us know what you thought of it all but I guess that's it this episode yes is probably the shortest one yeah only because of movies new yeah I just looked at it I didn't really realize how new it was it just came out um what is it the 22nd today June it came out on the 10th so really a couple weeks in yeah but We will get more in depth in depth on our next episode because we are doing 2021. 2020 one's a wrath of man, Guy Ritchie, Jason State.
Starting point is 00:28:39 Yeah. That's still in the theater. And if you guys want to see it, but that one, we're full spoilers in that one. Yeah. So just, just expecting it. We're telling you now. This one, yeah. Because I don't want to try to figure out everything.
Starting point is 00:28:55 No, we don't want another time, Kyle. episode. Try to crack infinite lives, the science of it. Yeah. Yeah, watch it. And if you guys crack it, let us know. Yeah. East Society, we just recorded a new episode.
Starting point is 00:29:12 So you'll probably hear this before you hear that. So, but, yeah, that's it. And check out, check me out on the Oki podcast on an upcoming episode. Not really sure. it's coming out because Russell's got tons of shows coming out. He's dropping left and right.
Starting point is 00:29:35 Mine's in the mix somewhere. As soon as I find out when it is, I'll let you guys know. But yeah, East Society, a couple days will be a new episode. Out, I got to put it together. I got to do some tweaking of the knobs because it just kind of
Starting point is 00:29:49 overlapped us. So I got to separate the tracks and fix it. It'll be out, but this one, you'll probably hear before that. So other than that, that is it for me and come back next week. And till then, party on. And over on the horror returns, right now you can hear our stepfather commentary. We did that for all the fathers out there.
Starting point is 00:30:13 Happy Father's Day. Happy Father's Day to you, Naz, and all the fathers out there. And what do we got coming next? Bringing back the Is It Really That Bad series with two of one. West Craven's not well-liked movies in Vampire in Brooklyn, and was it my soul to take? So that'll be an interesting one right there, because I don't remember my soul to take, and I didn't like Vampire in Brooklyn, so that'll be an interesting one. Stream fiends, right now you can hear our review on House Party, and our upcoming review is
Starting point is 00:30:57 coming soon on House Party 2. And yeah, a lot more coming. And want to send an extra special thanks to everybody for downloading, subscribing, following, all that stuff. We really appreciate it. So until the next time, everybody, stay safe out there.

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