The Horror Returns - The Action Returns - Ep. #47: Cobra Kai Season 4 (2021)

Episode Date: January 21, 2022

This episode Brian and Nez review season four of the Netflix original series COBRA KAI.   Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action ...Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns    Check out everything Horror Returns at: https://thehorrorreturns.com Join The Horror Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns   Join the THR Presents: Stream Fiends Facebook Group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/3860579827402429 Follow THR Stream Fiends on IG: @thrstreamfiends

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Starting point is 00:00:01 Man can't stand. You can't fight. A man can't breathe. You can't fight. A man can't see. You can't fight. Extreme situations require extreme measures. See this?
Starting point is 00:00:28 Looks like the Roosso taught him some defense. Okay, pretty boy. Let's go. Let's see what you learn. Some passion tonight. All right, everybody. We are finally back with another episode of the action returns. I'm your host, Brian.
Starting point is 00:01:07 as always is my brother Nez. What's up, man? What's going on, man? I'm good. Just trying to get back into the swing of things. Happy New Year, everybody. Yes, happy New Year.
Starting point is 00:01:19 Oh, man. What are we doing? I don't even know what we're doing anymore. We've been out of touch every. Well, we ran through the whole karate kid franchise, including that awful next karate kid. We did the
Starting point is 00:01:38 Cobre Kai series and end of the year we got a new season, season four. Many of us used to be enemies but rivalries don't need to last forever. The Old Valley tournament is just a few months away. The stakes are higher than they've ever been.
Starting point is 00:01:58 We know that Cobur Kai is going to use every dirty trick in the book there's only one way we're going to be able to beat. By kicking their ass is so hard, they shit themselves. They strike first. We'll pre-strike. We're getting ahead of ourselves.
Starting point is 00:02:14 We're going to take back the valley. Take it back in a measured and organized approach. We bike first. They're not the only ones teaming up. If you would have told me a year ago that our family's safety depended on winning a karate tournament, I would have thought you were joking. Here we are. Living in the Twilight Zone.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Did we talk about season three? Yeah, we kind of ran through it quickly. I think. I think, I'm not sure. Yeah, I don't remember. those of you faithfully listen could probably tell us but we'll
Starting point is 00:02:59 do a little recap on that one but season four oh man this was something that they said yeah you guys are getting another season two seasons in one year so
Starting point is 00:03:16 I was like what I couldn't believe it and as soon as it dropped you know damn well I was right there at 12-0-0-1 and I just started it. My wife hung in there for the first three episodes and it was like, I'm too tired. I can't go.
Starting point is 00:03:33 So I did three more after that. And then it was like, I got to go to sleep. So I took a nap, woke right back up and finished it. And, whew, man, this season, man, this, it's, I don't know if the next season is it. if it is all right but um i don't know man i i was juiced on what was going on what was happening the way season three ended and i was like oh i just couldn't believe it and then even yeah yeah you know what we did talk about season three because we were both talking about um the return of Terry Silver
Starting point is 00:04:17 the Ian Thomas Ian Griffith that's his name Yeah that sounds right We were unsure because you would mention That he had retired from acting So we were like Well is he gonna do it
Starting point is 00:04:33 And we weren't sure And then the teaser came out And shit it was him And I just couldn't I could not wait For this season And when it finally came out I mean I it
Starting point is 00:04:46 It made up all my expectations on what I wanted and where it's going to go next. I wish I was able to go to Albuquerque Comic-Con this past weekend, but we'll get that in a minute before we start, before we finish. But, man, I loved it. What did you think? I'm right there with you, man. I'm 12-01. I was there, and I binged the entire thing.
Starting point is 00:05:16 I've probably seen this season probably at least three times. I loved the direction all the characters went. There was a lot of growth with characters that we come to like. Some we come to not like. Brought back a few, a couple of faces that were missing from the previous season. And then we got some new faces. And yeah, I just thought it was amazing. and it exceeded my expectations,
Starting point is 00:05:50 and I'm definitely looking forward to season five, which is already in the can, ready to go. Oh, it's done already? Yep, they said it's already filmed. Oh, man. Well, well, they got to. I mean, some of these kids like Dimitri, that kids are hell of tall now.
Starting point is 00:06:11 Yeah, out of the characters that we've known from the beginning that that have grown with this show he was one of them because I'm uh geez I can Gianni Desenzo
Starting point is 00:06:26 he got on my nerves he still kind of got on my nerves this season or the last two seasons but he he's come a long way I mean all the kids have come a long way if you've watched this
Starting point is 00:06:42 this series from the get-go If you were one of the OGs from YouTube Red when it first came out before I went to premium and then Netflix, you saw the skill level of these kids. Especially what's her name? Samantha Luroso, Mary Mouser. She was a little rough on the edges, but as the series went on, she by this fourth season, man, she got better. And my favorite out of the gals is Tori Nichols, a paint list. She's a little cutie and man, she's vicious. I still hate Kyler Park.
Starting point is 00:07:22 They got to get them on nerves. I want someone to just beat his ass to where he's not on the show anymore. He is the perfect villain, like that dushy bully. He's like, even there's times in the season where he kind of got his. But he's still, I give him, I give the character credit. He still maintains that, that douchey bulliness that we've come to see him. Yeah, I mean, he didn't,
Starting point is 00:07:50 he wasn't like the main focus, like the last few seasons, especially the first season when he was one of the, like pretty much the main bully, I guess. But he, he popped in every now because they had to make room for, for more characters to come up. And I think the standout character was Dallas Young.
Starting point is 00:08:11 He played Kenny Payne, a little black gentleman. I love how they connected it with, was his brother Sean. Yeah. Locked up with Robbie and Juvenile. I love they just connected the pieces like that. Yeah, it was good because I was kind of like, who is this kid? And why is he in? I figured they had to bring him in just because of Anthony Elaruso, Griffin,
Starting point is 00:08:39 some top patry i don't know i say his last name but it was mainly their their story arc on who they were who anthony and kennie's dealing dealing with how anthony was running with the bullies of the school uh canny was the new face in the school and he didn't know really know anybody tried to make friends but then these guys uh come in and then they just got to bully the new kid but Anthony I didn't like him in the first season he was just a little lazy worthless layabout didn't want to do anything it is the same kid because a lot of you remember he was a little
Starting point is 00:09:19 chubby guy in the first season or two and then I mentioned this on our show I'm not really sure if this was true or not but I want to say that he was like body shamed by fans of the show or whatever and then he kind of probably was he kind of took that you know what fucking you guys and then he got in the shape
Starting point is 00:09:39 and lost all the weight but I don't know if that's true everyone so nobody quote me on it but at first I was like is this the same kid so I had to look it up and it was him he was there from the very very beginning same thing Johnny said
Starting point is 00:09:54 he's like are you the same kid did you switch to Wopper Juniors Johnny man I mean Williams Zabka he's badass Johnny and Lawrence he just stayed the same through thick and thin of what was going on be a relationship being his relationship between him and daniel uh his relationship with his son uh robbie and and and miguel and it just but he still
Starting point is 00:10:24 stayed that hard ass that i'm still stuck in the 80s and i'm still fucking badass and the and the chicks love me but um i get a little shout out to the the two little guys I think Owen Morgan Bert What was the little Asian kids name? Nathaniel O Those two little guys, they grew up on the show Because now they're both tall
Starting point is 00:10:48 Because they were just little shrimp eat shrimpos In the beginning And now they're just growing up I think one of the big things that I had noticed Is it got nothing really to do with the story Was Miguel Zolo, I think that's how you say his name At the end of season three
Starting point is 00:11:06 On how he looked he was just a regular teenager. He's still a teen. I don't know how he old is he is now, but in real life. But it was how the season ended when they're all getting ready to join forces, Eagle Fang and Miyagi-do. And then with the beginning of season four, where it's where season three ended, I don't know if he put weight on in his face or what. I had noticed he looked a little thicker. He's going to be bulking up.
Starting point is 00:11:37 because he's a blue beetle in the DC universe now. Yeah, so I figured he did look like he swolled up a little. But I was like, damn, what happened to his face? I mean, was he eating regular whoppers or what? No, maybe he needed to, along with the muscle gain, he had to put on some weight. But, I mean, he was still badass. I didn't like Robbie at first, Johnny's son, Tanner Bucknan or whatever his name is
Starting point is 00:12:09 I didn't like him Robbie Keene at first But I think this season Since he took a little ken was it Kenny Was that his name? Yeah, since he took him under his wing I was like all right I thought Robbie was really cool This season That the
Starting point is 00:12:27 The love interest him and Samantha And now it's him and Tori But I think the relationship that he had with his dad other than he was living with his mom and his dad just didn't care. I mean, I thought it really came together at the end of this season. I actually almost teared up when they had their final scene together, but it was really good. I'm glad that they
Starting point is 00:12:56 kind of patch that up. But what else was I going to say? Oh, Eli. he's still hawk I don't care he lost the Mohawk because of Kyler in the gang but I didn't notice how he was just when he once he became a hawk he was like no one could fuck with me but then when he got humbled by Kyler in the gang he was he almost went back to that regular Eli when he was really shy and didn't want to say much you could see that in him but then he was like you know what fuck that and he just he He's still hawk in my book because he still has that big tattoo on his back.
Starting point is 00:13:40 And I love when they make that hawk cry when he flexes. He has some extra motivation at the end. You know, a little kiss from Moon. Yeah. Power of the P. A little motivation. Yep. This could be yours if you win.
Starting point is 00:14:02 But skill, skill-wise. same thing for him Jacob he was bad ass the first season but he was just getting more badass as the season went along I think out of everybody out of all the kids
Starting point is 00:14:19 I think he was the one that really really trained the hardest to make his skill level just go up and up because that fight that he had with Robbie was awesome and did you I don't
Starting point is 00:14:35 know if I know one of my friends said he goes did you the way the all valley tournament was this year wasn't just strictly fighting and that was it they threw in all the the the freestyle and then the block breaking and all that did you get the the sidekicks vibe yeah definitely they somebody one of the writers had to have been a fan of that movie yeah I want to say they mentioned sidekicks but I wasn't really sure because uh they were when when that one little gal that came in for uh eagle fang little eugene gal i can't remember her name when she came in to play i thought she was pretty badass as well but i mean there was a lot of new faces that that popped up into this so um were they bring in more next
Starting point is 00:15:26 season who knows well well i've been oh was that the yeah devon was the new eagle fang and And for Cobra Cah, that chick's name was Piper. Yeah. Well, that's right. I think she was just there just to fill out the female, Cobra Cicke. I think she really did anything. But it was good to see Nicole Brown back.
Starting point is 00:15:56 Was it Aisha? Was I don't know? Robinson. Do you remember why she wasn't in the last season? it was something she said or they never confirmed it but there was a couple things I read it was health issues
Starting point is 00:16:13 but then there was another thing I read that said there was problems on set so I don't know but whatever it was they I guess you could say that I guess they cleared it up for her to make a cameo appearance yeah I was happy to see her
Starting point is 00:16:29 I was hoping that she was going to come back but she lives like hours away or whatever in San Bernardino. But it was good just to see her when she popped in. I was like, well, hey, I was hoping she was going to come back, but it doesn't look like it.
Starting point is 00:16:47 But for me, other than Terry Silver, awesome to see him. We'll get to him in a minute. But what's his name? Stingray. He made his return. because I was kind of like after the fight at the high school was that season two was that
Starting point is 00:17:12 yeah finale yeah when that ended I was kind of like oh man what happened to him they do mention him but I was like all right cool it was I was shocked to see him come back and I was excited I was like, oh, yeah, Raymond, Paul Walter, I think, Hauser. Did you see Richard Jewel? Yeah. Oh, man, I'm probably my favorite film that he's been in.
Starting point is 00:17:44 You guys haven't seen Richard Jewel. Check that film out. But it was cool to see him. He was still, he was still Stingray or Stink Ray, as his neighbor called him. But it was good, man. I mean, other than beating kids and,
Starting point is 00:18:00 now he's given him alcohol i'm surprised he ain't he locked up but um what happened to him at the end of the season was i was like that was a shocker but watching it watching the season the second time i kind of saw how it was going because um if you guys remember at the end of season three John Crease They were doing a lot of flashbacks of when John Crease was in Vietnam And if you're familiar with the character Terry Silver, he was in Karate Kid Part 3
Starting point is 00:18:40 He was the second bad guy Um he's character was in the flashbacks And at the end of season 3 he had made that phone call Hey man, it's been a long time Because in the flashbacks Terry Silver said no matter what I'll always be there for you and I owe you.
Starting point is 00:18:59 So if you remember the third film, he said that as well. He goes, look, man, you saved my life, man. I owe everything to you. So they had that bond. But when we're seeing the teasers, I was juiced on him coming back. And then we find out that it was Thomas Ian Griffith. I was like, oh, fuck yeah. What was his name in Vampires?
Starting point is 00:19:24 Balick Yeah Um He was still awesome He still had the moves I'm sure he had to train a little more but um He didn't dye his hair or anything he was a silver fox and It was sweet when he pulled his hair back Uh into that pony table
Starting point is 00:19:46 Ponytail He was Terry silver to us but to his girlfriend he was he was Terrence I like how they started it though You get that other end of the phone call And he just wasn't accepting it Like he hadn't he didn't want nothing to do with Crease
Starting point is 00:20:04 Yeah because I mean that At first I'm like well what happened I mean I thought there were still friends But I guess the The outcome of what happened in Karate Kid 3 Is when he kind of finally realized it like All right this guy's just
Starting point is 00:20:20 Nothing but bad news for my life because he did say goes, yeah, man, I was just coked up, partying, and this and that. I like when he mentioned cocaine. They cut to Karate Kid 3 when he's just laughing all crazy. Yeah, so he was just like, I made my life decisions. I made my life better. He just quit doing everything.
Starting point is 00:20:47 And then I don't know when he found this gal, but she basically got him pussy whipped. And he was, he was Terrence. But when John Crease came back into his life, I think he, when he went and met him, when he showed up at the, at Coburkeye Dojo is when he kind of realized. Because he, at first he didn't want to do it. He's like, you, you just ruined my life, man. But then the way Crease is, he snaked his way in there and filled his head with air. And then he kind of, you know what, I'll do it.
Starting point is 00:21:21 So yeah, because he knew the right words, you know, he brought up the Vietnam stuff. And then he brought up Daniel and then Chris, so it was like, Danny Boy. I was like, oh, you're pushing the right buttons right now. Yeah, like you said, he was saying everything to get him back to go like, oh, yeah. And then when he, I think that was it. When he brought up Daniel, he was like, all right, I'm in. He was all the way in. that first scene that they had together when eagle fang and miagido were training at miagido and then
Starting point is 00:21:57 john crease and terry silver come walking in when daniel sees him is like he saw a ghost and uh i liked how he was like who who no johnny was like who is that it was all just somebody i was like oh man the other thing that i think the other thing that got me hyped other than just seeing him back, which was awesome, was when Daniel was talking to his wife. What the hell was his wife's name? Is it Amanda? Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:35 Courtney Heggengler. I think that's her name. Sheldon's sister on Big Bang. The hell was her name. Anyway, Sheldon's sister. But when she was talking, though, she was like, what? When he was like, well, who is this Terry Silverhole? a guy from my past and da-da-da-da and she goes well is there anyone any other cobra
Starting point is 00:23:00 guy that's gonna come out of the woodwork and he kind of went no and then he went well there is this there's another one but that that that doesn't have nothing when he when he said that when he said when she asked him is there another and he said no but then he went well kind of but that that doesn't matter right now i went oh fuck that's not when i got hyped i got hype when the meetup with Johnny at the old dojo at the old Cobra God Dojo and Terry called somebody
Starting point is 00:23:35 and then he said I got a surprise for you I was like oh this is it this is it I was thinking that too but then I was like no it's it's too early for that let's save it for the next season so it's coming and oh my God I mean, I mentioned earlier, I wish I could have went to Albert Cricket Comic Con over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:24:00 Mike Barnes from Karate Kid 3. I don't remember the actor's name, but he was there. And I was like, I was planning on going, but then I ended up going to Vegas instead. But I was like, oh, my God. Didn't know he was doing the con circuit. So hopefully I can meet him at some point. before season three starts but um shan canaan yeah he's he's coming and if you listen to east society and or when we were talking about this i had mentioned i said first i wanted
Starting point is 00:24:42 terry silver to come in at some i even said i wanted chosen to come back at some for some for some reason. And he came back. And then I said, I wanted Terry Silver to come back. And he's back. I also said, at some point,
Starting point is 00:24:58 they're going to bring in Mike Barnes and they're going to need more firepower. And that's when Daniel was going to bring Chosen to America. And that's happening. Because the way season four ended, which was, I was,
Starting point is 00:25:17 starting to tear up when Daniel was at Miyagi's grave and he was talking to him. And then when he was, the last thing he said was like, hey, man, right now I really need your help to end this. I thought he was talking to Miyagi, but then the camera turned off to the right. And then there was chosen standing there.
Starting point is 00:25:42 I was like, oh, and then it was over. but oh man I can't wait I can't wait for season 5 and you got me even more hype saying that they were done filming yeah they they had to
Starting point is 00:25:58 because these young kids is getting older so but oh man I I can't wait for what so I'm hoping they didn't just fucking just zip through it as quick as they could and half ass it
Starting point is 00:26:15 I want them to take their time. I want to see more, more fighting. There was a lot more fighting this season. And like I said, that these kids' skill levels are just get, they're kids to me because I'm an old man. But these kids skill level is just getting better and better. If my friend asked me this, she goes, if these kids turned into like action stars, who do you think could be? a potential action star I think Robbie could
Starting point is 00:26:51 yeah I mean we're gonna get like I said earlier as Zolo as Blue Beetle but I can see I forgot his name it was Robbie's name Tanner
Starting point is 00:27:08 Tanner Buckman yeah I can see him doing something because he actually I was we were talking about a Zolo putting weight on Miguel Robbie he looked like
Starting point is 00:27:24 he bulked up a little bit too yeah because when they took the shirts off he was a little ripped yeah I was like damn hard put your shirt back on I was flipping around Netflix and I noticed that they must have did a sequel
Starting point is 00:27:45 to she's all that but it's all that. And Robbie is the main star in it. I was like, oh, really? I guess I got to watch it. It's a Netflix movie. I mean, I like him
Starting point is 00:28:02 as Robbie and Kobra Kai. I've seen him in he was in some other show. My wife and I were watching. He was just like, oh, it was the Goldbergs. He was like a little side character. He was one of the street tuffs that
Starting point is 00:28:19 the main kid was running around with Adam, the little kid. He wanted to be down with the cool kids and Robbie was one of the cool kids. He looks exactly the same, just younger and shorter, but I think out of all of them, I could see him doing.
Starting point is 00:28:38 Maybe he can do like an American Ninja 12 or something, but oh, we got to get back on that. Just a little side thing. I watched a couple little scenes from part three. Wow. How many is it?
Starting point is 00:28:59 I don't know, but three is it could fall under the it's so bad, it's good. Is it? It's not the main guy. It's someone else, isn't it? Yeah, it's somebody else. But I think in the later
Starting point is 00:29:17 sequels, they bring everybody back isn't it um that one guy from is it step by step i think that was his name or am i think no i'm thinking i'm thinking blood sport oh the guy from uh class of 1999 part two is he in that yeah he was like the robot i don't even remember that movie uh okay looks like they did five Sasha Mitchell. Yeah, him. Who's in?
Starting point is 00:29:59 I know she was talking about Cobra Cod, but this is got to do with action returns. This is something. Oh, it looks like Kung Fu Joe's still in it. Oh, my gosh. Whoever did his fight choreography? Man.
Starting point is 00:30:18 I don't even know who this other guy is. Is he still? still playing the same character as no it's a different character that's why they end up bringing the original guy back later all right this 89 a man newly trained in the martial arts must save his trainer from experimentation yeah I'm I'm watching clips like we might have to do this this is horrible oh All right, that's American Ninja 3.
Starting point is 00:30:59 What's 4 about? Oh, it looks like, oh, well, it looks like it's both of them because the other guy comes back. The fourth one. American Ninja 4, the annihilation. All right. What about 5? Okay, here it is. American Ninja 5, just American Ninja 5.
Starting point is 00:31:25 Miyagi's in the same. one. Oh shit. Master Tetsu. All right. Well, David Bradley, wherever that dude is from the third one, he's back. No Kung Fu Joe or the original dude, but when scientist's daughter is kidnapped, American Ninja attempts to find her, but
Starting point is 00:31:47 at this time, he teams up with the youngster. He is trained in the ways of the ninja. Come on. you're better than this but we'll have to see all right well they did fine well Robbie can be a American Ninja 6
Starting point is 00:32:07 the new generation yeah oh oh man you know if she keeps going to I would say what is her name that plays
Starting point is 00:32:22 Torrey Peyton list yeah she she probably can do something too because i see a lot of improvement in her stuff yeah man i mean yeah out of the two um just man that just gets on my nerves but um she got a lot of growing up this season though yeah she did um tory was just a better character and skill wise i see her um kicking a little more as hopefully they get to fight some more in this next season. But the Samantha, Laruso, her character.
Starting point is 00:33:11 Because when, like we said that Miyagi Doe and Eagle Fang joined up, they were all trying to learn each other's style, the way Johnny was trained and the Miyagi Doe. style. I thought that was cool and what they were doing. But I liked it to how they used Samantha to where she was just full of anger.
Starting point is 00:33:38 She wasn't listening to her dad. She wasn't really following the lessons of the way Miyagi-do was with their rules and their training. She was just more of anger. So you put it in Jedi stance, she would probably roll into the Sith
Starting point is 00:33:55 side because her anger, She couldn't control it. She was just mad that whole time. Because when they were having that final tournament at the end, Daniel was like, I can see that you're not even paying attention to what I'm telling you. But you could see that she, because when she looked at her dad and then she looked over at Johnny,
Starting point is 00:34:14 and Johnny gave her that head nod, and then she went out there and kicked ass. But I like that conflict that she has with both styles. But the other thing I thought was pretty sweet, is how Robbie was being trained by Daniel on the previous season, but then he went over to Cobra Kai just to get back at his dad, I would say. He said that wasn't why he went with them. But when he was training them, because Miyagi, there was more of defense, defense only.
Starting point is 00:34:53 And COBRA Kai would strike first, strike hard, no mercy, and all that. And I still seem to be the same way that Eagle Fang was, just different dojo names. But Robbie went in there and said, look, man, and he goes, I know both styles now. So I think it would be best that we, as a Cobra Kai, learn the art of defense, the Miyagi Do. I thought that was awesome when they were doing that and how they were able to block everything. But I think the biggest one that just made the hairs on my arm stand up is, when Johnny was fighting Terry Silver
Starting point is 00:35:31 when they went to the dojo and he was doing the Miyagi moves the paint fence and the sand floor and all that they did that whole scene in slow motion but I thought that was awesome seeing Johnny do that
Starting point is 00:35:47 plus to see Terry Silver and Johnny go at it have we seen John Crease fight yet he didn't The finale for season three, but I don't think he really did anything in season four. His character was kind of out of conflict, too. Yeah, I mean, he was this mean, badass.
Starting point is 00:36:16 But then I kind of seemed that towards the end of this, he was like, kind of seen that what he was doing was wrong. And then Terry Silver was like, no, fuck that. you pulled me back into this and I'm going like full throttle to be to be the heel the whole way because what he did Terry Silver did
Starting point is 00:36:40 John Cree's dirty at the end but Stingray he was just a little gullible I want to be a part of the gang and he just went along with that that one I didn't see that coming at all because when Terry Silver
Starting point is 00:36:59 and John Crease were sitting at Terry Silver's house and then you saw the, you heard the sirens and you saw the flashlight, the flashing of the lights. I thought they were coming to get Terry Silver. But then when the camera goes back to, well, Terry Silver was mad at John Crease and he got all drunk,
Starting point is 00:37:18 but then Stingray showed up at the dojo, oh, hey, Sensei, too, or whatever he called him. And still wanted to be Cobra Kai. And then Terry Silver just took his anger out on Stingray and basically whooped his ass and I soon put him in a coma because breaks off. Because he
Starting point is 00:37:36 was laying there all beat up and he woke up. So but when he woke up they were doing flashbacks and Terry Silver was over and look you want to be part of Cobra Kai? This is what you need to do.
Starting point is 00:37:52 And then because when when Stingray woke up and the police with the detectives were talking to him he was going yeah they were like well who did this to you and then he said john crease and that's when they see the cops come busting in and then getting them there's a lot of cops yeah so i was like damn and then he was like what ah and then they took them away and that's when terry silver walked over to the phone and uh assuming he called mike barns and i'm pretty sure it it was him No, he called snake.
Starting point is 00:38:32 Snakes. He better not show. He called snake and he said get the boys back together. No. We got work to do. No, anyone else but snake, man. Him and that extra medium t-shirt. No, and the dumb gold chain.
Starting point is 00:38:48 If he comes back, some of these to whoop his ass. One of the kids needs to whoop his ass. Oh, for sure. That's going to happen. Oh, snakes. We want to be back. he's one to be bad with her with some stupid shit you know it it's nice uh please don't please don't come back but um i can't wait for season five um
Starting point is 00:39:15 but uh to talk about some of the other characters i mean other than the main the main ones and Eli and Demetri and the two little younger guys. Mitch and Chris, they didn't really get, it was the white guy and the black guy. They really didn't get to shine that much this season. They had a couple lines and a couple scenes, but nothing, nothing to really. I think they mainly focused on the new ones, the new kids.
Starting point is 00:39:44 Yeah, because Kenny, I really liked where his story started and where it ended because that last scene where he's up in, what was it, Anthony's face, and he's telling him basically it's going to be, it's going to be hell on him. And just that look he gave him that I just, I was like, damn, this kid just went through a complete change.
Starting point is 00:40:12 In a way, I'm kind of like, good, Kenny, whoop that fool's ass. He should have whoop that one kid's ass. little kid with the curly hair that was called Anthony Lepuso that was the main instigator well I hope he gets his ass beat I hope Kenny goes and whips all of them up
Starting point is 00:40:32 because Kenny is part of Cobre Kaim and he does have he's got backup man he's got Kyler and the gang if he need be but I think he's one those one man gangs he's going there and do it himself I see
Starting point is 00:40:51 um Anthony taking it more serious and start training because it'll probably be just like the first karate kid Anthony's new in high school
Starting point is 00:41:04 Kyler's the not Kyler Kenny is the the the COBai bully or bad guy but then I see how Kenny was he was just a little kid
Starting point is 00:41:20 just wanted to fit in but then once John Crease and Cobra Kai and Terry Silver and all them got in his head um he his views changed him hopefully he can find balance and
Starting point is 00:41:35 get out of that but does Anthony and those guys deserve their ass to be kicked fuck yeah they do because they tortured the hell out of him uh that this whole season and that
Starting point is 00:41:49 the thing that really made me mad other than other stuff, they did do him, but is when the one girl he liked. And then they made the fake account for whatever game they were playing. Well, the cyberbullying stuff they did. Oh, man. Made him go to the park dressed up as space squirrel
Starting point is 00:42:11 or whatever the hell he was. And they'd beat him up at the park. I was like, damn. I mean, this is the type of stuff. I mean, bullying is, it's funny in the show and everything, but in a way, in real life, it's not, it's not funny. It's something that happens all over the place, and I'm sure it happens every day.
Starting point is 00:42:34 I was not a bully in school. I beat up a few bullies because there was some guys that were mean to some of the younger, or the more smaller guys than even gals, and they couldn't defend themselves. And I just never, I never thought that was cool. I got bullied a little bit. It was mainly more racist stuff,
Starting point is 00:42:56 dealing with me being Native American at a white school and them just not liking me because I wasn't white. But that was the bullying that I went through, but I handled that shit. Plus, I got my boys and we whoop some ass. But that was a long time ago. Now, I get beat up. but as far as what Kenny was going through man that that was bullshit so um is it right that he's going to be the bully towards uh anthony and in my eyes yes and no but i don't know i have a feeling that anthony is going to start training and then if they do the all valley again next uh next season
Starting point is 00:43:42 or whatever i have a feeling those two are going to lock horns and fight but yeah it's going to come down to that girl they both like on who's going to be the actual bully I think I can see that and then I do see them like hey I mean Anthony tried to apologize but then
Starting point is 00:44:05 he had that little curly-haired kid that was oh man no just the pussy or whatever that kid's name was him still in Anthony's ear and Anthony wanting to be down with the cool kids
Starting point is 00:44:21 so I don't know I really want that I hope that kid comes back that little curly hair kid he comes back and gets his ass whoop by Kenny but
Starting point is 00:44:30 um what was it what there's a three or four of them that was in the crew four altogether yeah so I don't know we'll see how that goes
Starting point is 00:44:42 I really wanted Nicole Brown to come back Aisha for whatever reason make them move back to the valley and she can get back in it. Because I thought what she did was cool. And she was getting all bullied and she was a big girl.
Starting point is 00:44:58 And then she learned to have the cobra the way of the fist and started kicking ass. So I would like her to come back. But we'll see. They'll call her later to form the Cobur Kai Avengers when they need to go save Miguel in Mexico. Yeah. Where do you think that's going? because at the end of the season, Miguel, he was kind of torn between Daniel and Johnny and Miguel's mom because her, she ended up hooking up with Johnny. But then Miguel was with Samantha and still trying to be down with Daniel, but he was all just torn in between.
Starting point is 00:45:48 getting pulled all over the place from every direction and then you got that scene when uh johnny was drunk oh man you thought they were having a touching moment and then yeah he called him ravi yeah i mean Miguel but he i'm giving the Miguel's young kid okay maybe he just didn't see it that way i saw it as johnny does love his son and he does want to be a part of his life and he was trying he was to just trying to work it out. But I think when that happened, Miguel wanted to, I think he was starting to see Johnny as a father figure.
Starting point is 00:46:29 But then when he went, I love you, Robbie, to Miguel, and Miguel was like, uh, so he would just, he just heard that at a difficult time in his life. And I think he just wants, I think he wants more a little closure of his father that he never met
Starting point is 00:46:49 and his mom told him that he lives in Mexico so at the end of the season Miguel rode alone and said hey I'm gonna go see my dad and he got on a bus from Mexico City but excuse me what we find out is Miguel's mom Carmen she finds Johnny and tells him where Miguel's going but she goes I didn't tell
Starting point is 00:47:14 Miguel doesn't know that his father knows Miguel exists. So I assume she got knocked up and then just disappeared. Or maybe he, maybe she was down in Mexico and then found out she was pregnant and then moved to the United States. But I don't know. We'll see how that goes. And there's already people saying that his dad's probably going to be a somebody or maybe he's cartel or whatever. I'm like, come on, man.
Starting point is 00:47:42 There's no need to bring cartel. into this. This is when that's when the show goes off the rails. Yeah, just I don't know who it could be, but when they need all three karate dojoos
Starting point is 00:47:58 to join forces to fight the cartel and this show's completely went off the rails. Yeah, they better just end it. I kind of have a feeling Johnny, because Johnny said, I'm going to find him, I'll go find him. So I had that feeling, Johnny's going to
Starting point is 00:48:14 to go down to Mexico and deal with that and Miguel's going to see that oh he does love me and I'm going to go back home and be this happy family I think while they're doing that this is when Mike Barnes is going to show up John Crease is going to be locked up for I'm just just me thinking he's going to be kind of locked up for a majority of the season because it's going to be about Terry Silver Mike Barnes and Daniel and chosen they're going to be they're going to be duking it out hopefully but i kind of have that feeling that chosen isn't going to he he he learned miagido or he learned that style from because they had the same teacher um miagi's dad then he passed away in the second film
Starting point is 00:49:05 i kind of have that feeling well plus and he he learned from his uncle um sato and that was more of just anger training. But it did see it because if you guys remember, it was season, yeah, season three when Chosen, we still thought he was going to be this, this asshole towards Daniel,
Starting point is 00:49:27 but we saw that he saw how, how his uncle trained him was wrong. And I'm sure that he, him and his uncle's patched things up and before he had passed. But I kind of have a feeling chosen isn't going, can do anything unless he has to.
Starting point is 00:49:47 I don't know. We'll see, but I want, I want a lot of fighting. I actually want to see Terry Silver and Chosen go at it. I think we're going to get a lot of fighting. And I think they're going to make, what's his name, Kyler at the forefront for Terry Silver's, Cobra Kai. I think they're going to push his training.
Starting point is 00:50:11 Because, you know, Terry got the, he got the money. and the fancy equipment and I think they're going to push him to be the the main guy in Cobra Kai because I mean they don't have Robbie
Starting point is 00:50:25 yeah and they still are I think the firepower would be Kyler and Tori because they really didn't focus on anyone else in Cobra Kai I mean as far as skill level the flippy girl the new girl
Starting point is 00:50:43 Oh, that's why the new chick. I don't know. We'll see. But I can't wait for the next season because it's just going to be all-out war. It better be. I mean, but then they got to throw in that drama of Miguel and Johnny down in Mexico. I'm hoping that's one episode. Don't span it off into a few episodes, two at the most.
Starting point is 00:51:13 But I kind of want Johnny go down there, find Miguel, and then just they patch things up, and then he takes them home. They get back and find that way, what the hell? And they come back in the middle of this war. I'm like, who the hell? Who is this guy now? What's going on? And then they all have to join forces and fight.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I want a street fight or something. But, you know, you know, Snake's been training this whole time. He better not come in here. He better not. I would be hell of mad. But if he does, well, he wasn't,
Starting point is 00:51:51 um, he was just, he worked for Terry Silver. He wasn't friends with Mike. Cause he, because when he goes, oh yeah, here's snakes.
Starting point is 00:52:02 And they went, oh, okay. What the hell is his name? Jonathan. Ablinson. See what he's doing. He was in Rocky 4 or Rocky 5?
Starting point is 00:52:18 What the hell was he? I don't know. So it's just this druggy. He was in Desert Heat with Van Dam. I don't even remember that one. Um, last thing he did was 2002. He'll be happy to come on. Do they need him?
Starting point is 00:52:46 No, but if they bring him on, all right. He's going to know how to find. Mike because Snake knows how to get things done in the streets I don't know shit
Starting point is 00:53:02 I don't know man but I'm I'm juiced I'm ready for uh Mike Barnes to make his return how the hell
Starting point is 00:53:12 how old is Ralph Macho is he like pushing 60 he's got to be because I remember him saying that he was the same age as Pat Marita
Starting point is 00:53:25 when uh born in 61 let's see how old is he can't do the math everyone 60 wow oh damn
Starting point is 00:53:38 well he's still out there doing how old is William Zach I don't think he's quite 60 he's 56 so all right and crease is
Starting point is 00:53:56 80 He's 75. Damn. How old's Elizabeth Shoe? I was hoping for her to come back, but there was really no reason. She's 58. Damn. She came back last season.
Starting point is 00:54:11 Who? Damn. She's still fine. Um, what's his name is probably. That is, U.G. Chosen.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Shit, he's 62. Shit. I don't know, man. But we'll see. He still got the moves because that fight that they had at the in season three, well, training in season three was awesome. I think I watched that, that episode over and over again.
Starting point is 00:54:52 Oh, did, uh, did Daniel do one of those, uh, paralyzing moves? On Johnny? Yeah. Yeah, he did. And Johnny was like, well, so we're cheating now. It's like he said something. Yeah. He must have not did it the, the right way.
Starting point is 00:55:10 because he did he was still able to move he wasn't like when chosen did it to daniel he just couldn't move his arms at all but yeah i hope he does that oh because daniel did it to john crease at the end that's right when they were fighting but i don't know we'll see uh what happens um it was good to see uh daniel's mom pop pop pop back up lucille uh randy heller she popped up in one episode and his cousin that fool
Starting point is 00:55:42 yeah and the actress that played his sister that's uh Ralph Machio's daughter in real life oh that is?
Starting point is 00:55:55 Yeah the one that was doing the counseling for them yeah yeah that's his daughter I didn't know that what happened screen froze but
Starting point is 00:56:09 yeah Um, the, what was his cousin's name? Um, Louis. Louis. Louis, so. Because when he showed up, uh, when Johnny and him showed up at Daniel's house for the dinner and Louis was standing there, he goes, oh, hey man, uh, sorry about all that. I don't hang out with those bikers anymore.
Starting point is 00:56:35 Because even at one scene when they were talking, he goes, yeah, man. he goes he kicked ass man he goes he took on two bikers me and I had a bat so what uh louis um
Starting point is 00:56:51 I don't like that other guy he did he only shined in one episode the other dude um that works at the car a lot I don't remember his name but he only popped in this one episode because he was uh I think he went to work
Starting point is 00:57:07 um for the rival yeah I can't even pronounce his name on the show annish angus I don't know Anush
Starting point is 00:57:18 yeah him whatever he was only in one episode but it didn't it didn't quite work out the the team up of Miyagido
Starting point is 00:57:32 and cobe Eagle Fang because see the season 3 ended you're like oh man they're gonna it's gonna be badass but it just it just couldn't work out because it was mainly Johnny and Daniel they just couldn't see eye to eye with the styles so I mean you guys are familiar with them you knew that wasn't going to work out but I think for me the other than a little standout act the guy Kenny
Starting point is 00:58:01 Dallas young him as well as how Samantha was doing her stuff leaning more of Eagle Fang but um and Robbie his story on how he was just mad at the world and mad at his mom and mad at his dad I'm glad that they kind of hatched things else
Starting point is 00:58:24 because that that scene was was a little tear jerker when him and his dad were talking and they finally just hugged it out so hopefully they could move forward but I have a feeling he's going to be Eagle Fang, I guess, because he left Cobre Kai, so I don't know. Yeah, because now it's just Tori and Kyler and everyone else.
Starting point is 00:58:48 So we'll see, we'll see. But man, I'm juiced. And like I said, I foreseen everything. Everything's coming true out of everything I watched. I remember explaining it to one of my friends and he's like, dude, how do you know and remember all this stuff in these movies? I said, what shit? It's something that I like.
Starting point is 00:59:17 Theo fucking, he was saying, they got to bring in Julie. No, they don't. That's what I said. I said, there's no reason. Julie was the next karate kid. You can't even say it's for fan service because nobody's asking for it. no nobody is there they would be pointless to bring her in there's there's no reason to bring her into this fight again i mean we we've said it before maybe there's a honoring for miagi or whatever
Starting point is 00:59:53 and she shows up in an episode all right that that's fine that's how she is she's linked to this story through miagi but there's she's got no no reason to join this fight yeah i mean I mean, if something goes down and it's like somebody needs a lawyer or something and she just happens to be that, I can see her doing like at one episode, a cameo. That's it. Yeah, I don't. I see. There's no need for her to come into this. Now, I did see an article where they were saying, yeah, there's, there's hints to.
Starting point is 01:00:37 for Julie to come there it was no hints for her to come in into this so I mean they'd just be scraping the bottom of the barrel nothing against Hillary Swank she's Academy Award winner
Starting point is 01:00:53 and I love her but there's no reason to bring in Julie Pierce that character was garbage I got to bring him Michael Ironside too you might as well but I don't know man he looked pretty fat and nobody.
Starting point is 01:01:09 Did you see that? Oh, yeah. It was good to see him in it, but it looked like he was eating the double whoppers. But there's no reason to bring her in. What was their little crew called Michael Arnenside's crew crew? Weren't they like the security guards of the school or something stupid like that? Yeah, I thought they were like the ROTC,
Starting point is 01:01:36 but they were like the like I guess they could hang around when schools closed and be security guards and seems like they never went to class. If you guys want to brave the next karate kid it's on on Netflix but again there's no there's no reason to bring Julie into this just a cameo at the most
Starting point is 01:02:03 there's no reason for her to strap up and fight. There's none. So, we'll see. I had to click on her. It doesn't look like she's well, I guess they would mainly, it would be a surprise
Starting point is 01:02:19 if she popped up in it. But, but those you that are making this, please don't don't bring her in. There's no reason that she, this isn't a part of that
Starting point is 01:02:32 that, that story. line. I mean, it's cool how they got all the first three movies into this Cobra Kai series on how it all linked, but it was mainly Daniel, so it was cool for them to
Starting point is 01:02:48 bring in everyone. She's going to come in. She's going to save Miguel in Mexico, and he's going to notice that she's using Miyagi, Do? No. There's no reason for her to come in.
Starting point is 01:03:07 But she could fight, man, she did good a million-dollar baby and when she had that fight at the end of the hunt. But, no, there's no reason to bring in Julie. No, don't. I don't even though, even if they had
Starting point is 01:03:25 some kind of thing and honoring thing for Miyagi, I mean, they're you don't have time to do all that. They're too busy trying to deal with everyone. From what I understand, there's supposed to be like a time jump this next season. season that makes sense so but I don't know well we'll see on what happens but um I'm ready Cobur Kai season 5 it's right says it's done I guess I got to put in all
Starting point is 01:03:57 the special effects and everything no CGI I know none of this this is all all them a little wire work with the the fighting at the end but It wasn't that bad. But, oh, wait a minute. I just clicked on Tom and Thomas Ian Griffiths thing. He did a time cop movie. Man, you're going to make me seek this one out. Oh, Time Cop 2.
Starting point is 01:04:32 He was in that? I never saw it. So with Jason's got Lee. Have you seen it? I didn't even know it existed. I knew there was a time cop too, but I just remember seeing the case at the video store. But 20 years after a set of events, TEC enforcement agency that makes sure no one travels into the, this is a lengthy. Yeah, I'm not reading that synopsis.
Starting point is 01:05:04 All right. Now I got to seek it out. I like Jason Scott Lee. Where's he been? What was the last thing he was in? He was in that Mulan. movie. It was? Oh, that's right. He was. He was in that.
Starting point is 01:05:24 I remember from Back to Future 2 and Dragon. Yeah, Mulan, I think it was the last big thing. He did. He's got some other things. Well, he's been, he's been working. Oh, he was also born in East LA. He was one of the the Chinese Indians when he was trying to teach them how to speak English. was happening yeah he was one of them oh man
Starting point is 01:05:57 yeah Dracula 3 there's a Dracula 3 oh and oh fuck he did Dracula 2
Starting point is 01:06:08 right before he did time cop 2 was he Dracula uh I was one of those straight to video movies in 2003 doesn't look like it
Starting point is 01:06:19 he plays a priest. Oh. Father Euphizzi, I think that's it. Oh, this is part two to that another Dracula movie that came out in 2000.
Starting point is 01:06:36 Dracula 2000. Wasn't that the one with Leonidas? Yeah. Yeah. I don't remember this one at all. I just remember Jennifer Espos
Starting point is 01:06:51 Zeta was in it. It's all I remember. Hmm. Who knows? Maybe we'll do it next year or this year later this year for 31 days of horror. Yeah. Oh, for those you that I got
Starting point is 01:07:07 eventually going to put out those last two days of 12 random days of Christmas. Everything got in the way and I just lazy didn't put them together. But there'll be lost episodes. They'll be out when you know.
Starting point is 01:07:22 You never said. you never said what days yeah don't be out Dracula 2 and 3 have no desire to see those but I will rewatch the first one but oh shit he was a soldier I forgot about that that was the one with um snake pliskin
Starting point is 01:07:43 Kurt Russell yeah that's a good one is that the one he didn't talk yeah because they were like stealing babies and training them to be soldiers and they're acting like they was robots and yeah yeah i don't know maybe i'll find that one at some point well i guess it's on prime no yeah you gotta rent it other ways around all that but anyway um we're veering off and everything something else but
Starting point is 01:08:13 uh cobra and kai season four awesome season uh if you listen to this whole thing and haven't seen one episode start from the beginning um To me, I think it's well worth your time. If you like the movies, I'm sure you already saw it, but I just, to me, this was amazing. If you listen to our East Society's top TV series lists of 2021, season three and four, made my list. I remember season four was my number two. I can't remember where season three fell, and it was somewhere on the list. but oh man
Starting point is 01:08:54 I can't wait I mean I'll definitely rewatched season four again and not everything else because this show was amazing really quick when the first season came out
Starting point is 01:09:09 I wasn't I was like really I was excited to see Johnny and Daniel when they showed the teasers but I wasn't really buying it because I wasn't I didn't do YouTube read but luckily they put that first episode
Starting point is 01:09:25 on YouTube for free and that's that's how it got me and I just I couldn't wait we had to get it and I made my wife just zipped through that whole first season so I'm glad Netflix is around and they drop it all at once we don't have to wait week by week but
Starting point is 01:09:47 another action news what do you think in a Boba Fett so far book of Boba Fett I am not caught up, but I've been entertained for the most part. I mean, I don't think this needs to probably go multiple seasons
Starting point is 01:10:06 after it's over. I'm hot and cold on it. I mean, it's good to get more Star Wars, but I'm not rushing to be there at midnight on Tuesday or Wednesday or Wednesday
Starting point is 01:10:25 or whenever it comes out. Yeah. It's, I was that first episode, but then I think we're, three episodes in, and it's,
Starting point is 01:10:34 to me, it's kind of just going up and down. So I'm like, okay, what are we doing here? And then it gets good for a sake and then goes back down. And it just goes up and down.
Starting point is 01:10:46 So, but of course we're going to finish it, but we'll talk about it more when it's all said and done. You just didn't watch the last episode? I'm a couple blind. I just, I'm, I'm kind of there with you. I just, I haven't, I want to watch it, but just, I haven't got around to it. Yeah, I mean, just whenever, even if you wait until it's done.
Starting point is 01:11:14 I think at this point, I mean, there's nothing really like, oh man, I can't wait for next week. Yeah, I don't even really hear anybody really talking about it. Yeah, I mean, I think amongst the Star Wars fans, it's like it's a hot and cold thing. You either love it or you don't or you're okay with it. I'm okay with it. If it doesn't go another season, I'll be all right.
Starting point is 01:11:39 I just want to see more Mandalorian and I can't wait for Obi-1. So we'll talk about those when they come back out. But as far as Cobra Kai season four, awesome season, I love it. Can't wait for season five. And yeah, that's it. I've got nothing else to say unless you do.
Starting point is 01:11:57 no everybody if you haven't watched it all four seasons on netflix i guarantee you'll be hooked by the first episode yep guaranteed but with that everyone just please be safe out there and come back for more what are we doing next uh your pick amityville uprisin action horror oh right Ah, all right, everyone. Yeah, Amityville 4 Uprising. They don't know what movie this is.
Starting point is 01:12:35 I'm waiting for Amityville, Bigfoot, Amityville Shark House or whatever the hell that one's called. I think they just had Amityville in the hood or something like that. Even though in the hood. What happened? Did the neighborhood go down and turn into the hood? I might have just made that movie up. I'm trying to double check.
Starting point is 01:12:55 I know it's Amnivis. something that has to do with weed amityville weed why not oh it is amityville in the hood it is yeah oh man an east side gang uses the amityville property to grow marijuana when they are attacked by rival gigs and their drugs are stolen soon it is unleashed on the west side streets of compton where anyone who smokes it suffers one killer buzz. I like this poster. Yeah, I don't want to get into it.
Starting point is 01:13:32 Everyone will be here all that. But yeah, well, uh, we'll, we'll find it. And bring it to you. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:13:40 Amityville Uprising. Watch the trailer and come back when we'll talk about it. Until next time, everyone will just be safe out there and we'll see you then. So until then, party on.

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