The Horror Returns - The Action Returns - Ep. 58: Iron Eagle (1986)

Episode Date: July 22, 2022

This episode Brian and Nez head out to the middle east to help Doug Masters rescue his father after he is shot down over the Mediterranean Sea in the 1986 action classic IRON EAGLE.   Join The Action... Returns Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns    Check out everything Horror Returns at: https://thehorrorreturns.com Join The Horror Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns   Join the THR Presents: Stream Fiends Facebook Group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/3860579827402429 Follow THR Stream Fiends on IG: @thrstreamfiends

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Starting point is 00:00:00 I'll call up your stores. Two sidewinders and 244 rounds. We'll never raise safety at this speed, but burning fuel too fast. Guess we'll have to take them on. I guess so. Think you can handle a loop? Think you can handle the music? Baby, I need some action tonight.
Starting point is 00:00:38 Welcome back, everybody, to another episode of Action Returns. We are finally back. I was Brian and with me as always is my brother Nez, what's up, man? Well, good, man. We're back for the awesome 1986 classic film Iron Eagle.
Starting point is 00:00:56 Doug Masters, raised on an airbase, born to fly. Doug, it's your dad. He's been shot down. You know he ain't got a chance. Jaffe Sinclair, the only man who can help Doug save his father's life. The Americans must die. The rescue the government
Starting point is 00:01:12 can't risk. They will. picked this up on radar too late for them now Louis Gossack Jr. Jason Giprich, Iron Eagle rated PG 13. Starts Friday at a theater near you. Iron Eagle. I can't talk about the sequels
Starting point is 00:01:28 because, yeah, but this one, when's the first time you saw this one? Oh man, I had to have been a young kid when I seen it originally, so, and this is only my second time watching it, this rewerews.
Starting point is 00:01:44 So it was basically, I mean, I remember like the main points of it, but it was basically like a first time watch for me. Okay. This came out months after Top Gun, I believe, because Top Gun was. I didn't say Maverick is a Top Gun. The first one came out also in 86. I want to say it came out around the summertime because I remember it being. a summertime film oh i guess not well almost summer top gun came out in may uh 16th iron eagle came out um january 17th okay so in the beginning of the year uh i saw this in the theater i didn't
Starting point is 00:02:32 know what it was um i didn't know top gun was coming i didn't have no idea uh about that no internet boys and girls so uh the movie theater that i lived right around the corner from I basically went and saw everything that came there and played. I knew who Lou Gossack Jr. was so I was like, all right, cool. I'm on board. It's dealing with Jets. I always have fascination with Jets. So let's watch this film. So I went in and watched it and I was like, oh man, this is hell of good. I mean, I watching it this time to talk about it. It's goofy, it's cheesy. Yes, it's unbelievable, but I just love this film. I saw it multiple times in the theater, and once it did it to
Starting point is 00:03:20 HBO run, I watched it just about every time it was on. I had the VHS. I don't know what I did with it, but when DVD came around, I had to get it. Not sure if it's on Blu-ray yet, but yeah, I love this film. I think it is on Blu-ray. make me look because I'm like, how come I don't have this? Iron Eagle Blu-ray The other ones are
Starting point is 00:03:53 Iron Eagle 3 All right, here it is I would say import Oh, okay I don't know I don't know what kind of import is I don't know what language this is on the bottom But
Starting point is 00:04:11 I might as well get it It's not expensive. See, that's what bugs me sometimes. You go on there and you look at Blurays, especially like Dollar Tree or Dollar General or something. You got bullshit movies on Blu-ray, and you can't have awesome films like Iron Eagle on Blu-ray, which I know you probably make tons of money.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Come on, Scream Factory or Shell Factory. You guys should jump on that and a steel book. Read a synopsis on what Iron Eagle is about. All right. Iron Eagle synopsis when Colonel Ted Master's
Starting point is 00:04:49 plane goes down in an Arab country he sentenced to death for trespassing his 18 year old son Doug is determined to save him unfortunately Doug
Starting point is 00:05:00 isn't the best fighter pilot he wasn't accepted into Air Force because he needs to listen to music in order to hit a target I don't think that's why he was not
Starting point is 00:05:10 accepted in the Air Force what are you Google that's not what I have I have Iron Eagles a 1986 military action film directed by Sidney J. Fury who co-wrote the screenplay
Starting point is 00:05:26 yeah I don't know that's I must got different Google here in California so he lists the help of Colonel Chappie to borrow a couple of F-16 planes fly across the Atlantic and start a rescue mission. All right. Come on, IMDB.
Starting point is 00:05:51 There you go. IMDB. A young pilot, a young pilot plans a rescue mission when his father and Air Force colonel shot down over enemy territory and captured. This stars Louis Gossett Jr. Jason Gedrick. He looks old now.
Starting point is 00:06:16 David Suchet, Tim Thomerson, Larry B. Scott, Kopekai, Carolyn Lagerfeldts, Jerry Levine, Robbie Wrist, Michael Bowen,
Starting point is 00:06:34 Bobby, I know there was some Rob Garrison, Kopikai. there are a couple of other people that popped out little bit parts well Larry B. Scott Reggie A.K. Lamar. He was also
Starting point is 00:06:54 one of the Cobra guy and the original variety kid. And Jerry Levine was Stiles from Teen Wolf. That's right. That's who the hell he was. I couldn't think of who he was. This is directed by Sidney J. Fury
Starting point is 00:07:10 and written by Kevin. Allen elders and Sidney J. Fury. And a young Shawnee Smith. He was in this. That's right. Yeah, Michael Bowman.
Starting point is 00:07:28 He was, um, was his name Buck and Kill Bill? My name is Buck and I'm here to fuck. I think he's always a bad guy in something. Oh, man. I don't care what anyone said. I, go back
Starting point is 00:07:47 it was a Top Gun if you knew the show we'll go back and listen to the Top Gun episode listen to
Starting point is 00:07:52 why I hate that film but this film was awesome again with the 80s cheese
Starting point is 00:07:58 it was full of it um they did use real jets but these guys weren't in it just like
Starting point is 00:08:06 top gun and like top gun they did use models and watching it this time I've seen this movie a billion
Starting point is 00:08:11 times but really really really paying attention to the model work it was not good at all so but but
Starting point is 00:08:22 why I love this one so much is because there was no love no bullshit with that just the love of a boy and his father because they made Tim Thomerson was a Ted Master, Jason Gidrick was Doug Masters
Starting point is 00:08:39 and where the hell were they flying I don't even remember somewhere over the Middle East right making matters worse the news that his father's been shot down and captured by a fictional
Starting point is 00:08:55 Arab state of bilia while patrolling over the Mediterranean Sea yeah because his dad was flying or flying around over him and another pilot and then
Starting point is 00:09:10 what the hell were they flying It wasn't F-16s as it says it says. So they were flying over and then they come across two guys from Billia or whatever the hell of that place is and then they kind of get into a firefight.
Starting point is 00:09:37 One of the guys takes off and Ted he gets Ted Masters he gets shot down and then he gets captured by them. But Doug is just a senior getting ready to graduate from high school when all this is going on. He's hanging out with his friends for some reason. The United States, I assume is the Air Force or Navy or whoever, but it's the Air Force. they just let these kids roam free on the base and have their own clubhouse basically right next to the runway.
Starting point is 00:10:20 Hey, they got jackets and everything. Yeah, they did. And yeah, I mean, this is pre 9-11, so I guess you can go wherever you want and do whatever you want whenever you felt like it. Yeah, because the bully, he seems to roam around anywhere on his dirt bike. Yeah. So, yeah, Colonel Ted Masters, he gets shot down and taken captured by these, some made-up errant state, they said. So, but while Doug is waiting for his letter from the Air Force Academy, because he's supposed to hopefully go into that after he graduates, he finds out that he wasn't accepted. They don't really go into why.
Starting point is 00:11:08 I just assumed that he just wasn't accepted now. That's how the cookie grumbles. According to my Google, it's because he can't stop listening to music while he's flying. The music is garbage in this one. I'll give it to Top Gun. The soundtrack was good. Okay, that was about all that was good about that one. But the only real song they really used in this was Twisted Sisters.
Starting point is 00:11:36 We're not going to take it from the Stay Hungry album. Awesome album. guys haven't heard it. But Doug, we find out he finds out he's not accepted to the Air Force Academy. What the hell is
Starting point is 00:11:52 Buck's name? What the fuck was his name? Michael? Oh, Notcher. I don't know a couple of these names. He he's a local asshole
Starting point is 00:12:10 of the where with this little town that they living and his brother his buddy uh packer uh rob garrison he was rob garrison was he wasn't bobby oh tom he was tommy uh in cobra kye um uh they go and uh notcher finds uh uh doug's acceptance letter or his rejection letter and then he kind of reads it over the loudspeaker at wherever a little hamburger joint that they're all hanging out at so Doug is mad and then he's like ah he's like he's like he wants to fight notcher but then he's like nope he goes if you want to deal with this you got to do the i don't know the run i can't remember what they called it basically just a race through uh the mountains and everything uh nach was going to be on his little dirt bike and Doug was going to be flying his his little airplane uh i don't know airplanes everyone so i couldn't even tell you what kind of kind of plane that was Yeah, is this, is a dirt bike and a plane evenly matched? Again, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Airplanes, I don't know how fast they go, especially the kind of little prop plane that he was riding around in. I maybe at a straight race, but I don't know. I mean, but I couldn't tell you. Because in the film, it looked like they were going, they were close. They were neck and neck and everything. but what there was they were there was I guess it started off on the airfield and then they took off again you're just letting these kids roam free on these air on these airfields so you do anything back then not sure goes hauling ass on his bike Doug's flying after him
Starting point is 00:14:02 in his plane he's got this little makeshift a little strap that he has his um his little cassette walkman on and he puts has the the music cooked up blasting through his his little headset and the most terrible 80s music ever just shout out to the guys that did the music i mean i'm not i'm i can't write songs so but hey your songs were in this movie but i don't know whatever these songs he was listening to is what helps him uh fly better so all right so he's uh hauling ass in his plane Tommy and Lamar and
Starting point is 00:14:44 he's in another plane Styles is in another he's only Lamar's styles everyone you know we're talking about he's flying in another plane and they're both talking back and forth on the radio talking to Doug Doug I don't think Doug is even
Starting point is 00:15:00 answering them really he's just concentrated on flying and not just just hauling ass on his bike this is what I didn't get If it was just a straight race, all right. But apparently, Doug can only be a certain amount of feet above the ground, I guess, to make it quote unquote fair.
Starting point is 00:15:23 So Notcher is hauling ass on this dirt road. Doug is flying all over the place and flying over mountains and everything. But I don't know how long ago, but apparently somebody died doing this. this race. Yeah. You would think they wouldn't let these kids do this anymore. Was not sure a part of that when that guy died?
Starting point is 00:15:47 Or was he just raising someone else? I don't remember. I know he brought it up when they were about to do the race. Yeah, because they go flying, hauling ass through the mountains and everything. I mean, there was one part where Doug was doing, I don't know what he was doing, but he was like climbing over this mountain. I guess it was on the face of the mountain. They were saying this is where
Starting point is 00:16:12 so-and-so bought it. And then he was able to fly over it, fine and everything. But while he's flying and racing, the camera keeps going inside the plane and the engine, and there's something on there that's like spinning, rattling, like a little bolt or a nut, was starting to shake.
Starting point is 00:16:33 And you could see it slowly starting to come off. Because once they're flying, then all of a sudden, that little bolt or nut falls off, all this smoke starts shooting out of the back of Doug's plane. And Stiles and Lamar was like, dude, land the plane, land the plane. You're going to crash or whatever it was that they broke. But Doug is like, fuck that. Blah flying his plane, not just hauling ass on his bike. And then just neck to neck and dumb music blasting in the background. Smoke shooting out of the back of his plane.
Starting point is 00:17:07 and then he flies through the the little makeshift finish line but whatever it happened whatever he did do his engine well when they were in the air um I think it was styles or
Starting point is 00:17:22 Lamar I came around one of them turned around to Tommy and said what what did he do to his into his uh to the motor or to the engine he was like oh he made me do something and then that's when they're like so they they did tell Doug hey man you're whatever
Starting point is 00:17:37 whatever was fucked with, just land the plane, but Doug ended up winning. I guess he was going so fast, and I don't know if it did anything to the brakes, but he actually, he landed, rolled off the runway, and crashed his plane.
Starting point is 00:17:53 So Notcha comes riding up. Hey, man, awesome race. I mean, you're all good, and Doug clocks him, knocks him out, and he falls down. Why don't you just kick his ass in the first place? Yeah, why did you, well, then there would be no awesome dirt bike plane race.
Starting point is 00:18:12 Yeah, now he doesn't have a plane anymore because it's crashed. Yeah. And apparently these kids, the Air Force must be paying good if you're a colonel. Because I don't know if Doug was working to buy that plane. So, yeah, while all that was going on, that's when Doug's dad, Ted Masters, was captured after being shot down. We go over to wherever they are. We see him.
Starting point is 00:18:40 They have him in some little cell just still in his flight suit in there. And basically they're going to tell him he's going to go on trial for, I don't know, some war crime or whatever. Or basically shooting at them while they were in there. Well, they weren't even in there. They were in, I believe it was American airspace where they were. And then those guys showed up and shot him down. but yeah I wasn't real guys wasn't real too clear on
Starting point is 00:19:12 why he was being held yeah so they basically call yeah you're gonna we're keeping you it wasn't like he would keeping him hostage it was like you're being arrested and tried for whatever war crime that they were they were cooking up
Starting point is 00:19:31 so while all this happens Doug finds out what happened to his dad his dad his dad was shot down. He goes charging into the Air Force hangar. I don't know what it was, wherever the,
Starting point is 00:19:46 where all the computers are. And again, you can just walk in and go wherever you want. So all these top secret areas of the Air Force base. Yeah, he just walks in and everybody's just like, hey, Doug. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:03 Well, first when he got past the security guard, he was like going, hey, he goes after him. and yeah everyone else once he gets in hey Doug how's it going sorry about your dad he's like fuck because he goes to talk to
Starting point is 00:20:15 I think whoever the general or whoever it is and he's telling him well what are you guys are going to what are you guys going to do and he's like look I know your dad I've been flying with him for years
Starting point is 00:20:27 but this is above above my pay grade basically he's like it's it's up to the White House and everyone in order if we're going to go in and get him. Because Doug was like, well, what are you guys going to do?
Starting point is 00:20:42 Are you going to go rescue him? And they're like basically telling them that he's a waste of he's expendable and he's a waste of taxpaying money and we're not going to go over there and try to get him and start a war. So Doug is like, now, fuck that. He's mad. And then he's got to deal with his graduation.
Starting point is 00:21:03 But that's like far from what he's thinking about. But his mom is telling him like, I'm like, look, you, you just got to go. Your dad would want you to graduate. Your dad would want you to still live your life. I mean, his mom basically was writing them off. But he goes, you know your dad. This is what he wants.
Starting point is 00:21:19 We start having flashbacks that Doug and his dad and how his dad, again, different times in the 80s. His dad was able to sneak Doug in. And it was into these billion-dollar aircrafts and let some kid fly him. But cheesy the cheesy this shit of that I mean it's funny now But I still love this film But yeah when Doug's up there flying around He has to have his music in
Starting point is 00:21:49 And I'm like All right They're just gonna let you do all this Because his dad his dad's like This is the last time I'm not gonna let you do it Because he was just trying to I'm trying to hot dog and everything
Starting point is 00:22:03 Because his dad was telling him Look man if they find out that I'm sneaking you in here. I could go to jail and you can just kiss your plans of the Air Force goodbye. Okay. The music's pumping through the plane, right?
Starting point is 00:22:19 Yeah. So they don't hear this on the radio? No, that one guy did because he was like, he goes, we must have been having like cross communication. He was like hearing music. And then his dad
Starting point is 00:22:34 was like, ah, I don't know, maybe we just came across the radio station or something and they're like oh okay whatever I assume that it didn't happen all the time but so yeah his dad chewed him out like look I'm never bringing you up again so he's like
Starting point is 00:22:52 ah so that was a kind of just flashback said that he had of his father and then he ends up graduate no we go to the they have a prom because his dad's like or his mom's like look you just live your life go to the prom graduate and we'll
Starting point is 00:23:06 we'll see what they're going to do for your father. So he's like far from thinking about anything else. He was telling him, I don't even want to go. He told his mom, but she's like, no, you got to go. You got to go. Your dad wants you to go have a good time. So he ends up going. We get there.
Starting point is 00:23:22 The awesome little 80s dancing, and I don't know what Lamar was doing with these crazy dance steps because they were terrible. But boys and girls, I can tell you this, man. When I was going to dances, when I was a kid in high school in junior high, we did not dance like that. So that's all
Starting point is 00:23:44 I could tell you. If there's going to be something of this bullshit, it was that scene in this film. Because I was like, what with the music, I'm like, what the hell are you guys listening to? I know it's different times,
Starting point is 00:24:01 and I'm sure it was expensive to get music, real music, because it was actually, it wasn't a DJ, it was like a band band, like a live band, and I don't know what the hell they were playing. And Lamar's out there just shaking it up on the dance floor, starts
Starting point is 00:24:21 popping and lock in and moonwalking. He had styles excited. He had everyone excited. Because it's one of those dance things where everyone just clears a big circle for you to dance. I mean, you got dance moves like that. You need to give them some
Starting point is 00:24:40 space. And apparently Lamar and his girlfriend are the only two black people in this high school. Of course. So while the
Starting point is 00:24:56 prom is going on, Oliver from from Brady Bunch If you guys remember Oliver Carol's nephew I can't remember his name in the movie
Starting point is 00:25:10 but he comes showing up to the prom to to get the Intel's Doug that look man they're not going to do anything for your dad your dad's ass out
Starting point is 00:25:22 oh that was the name Milo what the hell was what's his name his real name Robbie wrist yeah He was Oliver and the Brady punch. But yeah, he's Oliver to me.
Starting point is 00:25:38 When Oliver, when he goes to tell Doug, look, they're not going to do nothing for your dad. They're just like, fuck it. We can't do it. And they're going to have a trial for your dad. And if he's the sentence guilty, they're going to cut his head off or hang him or whatever. I think we're going to hang him in the town square and whatever,
Starting point is 00:25:58 whatever village these thing was going on at so Doug goes up back to the Air Force base and that colonel or that guy his general is telling him like look man he's just there's nothing we can do we can't we can't do anything
Starting point is 00:26:16 for you for your dad so and he was mad because that was his friend his dad was Doug's dad was a friend of this colonel and he was just telling him like look man we we can't do anything think we can't we can't risk starting a war just to go save one person so Doug is like eff this I mean he still goes over to train in the simulator and um this is all billions of
Starting point is 00:26:45 dollars of equipment that we pay for it well I didn't pay for any of this in the 80s but we're paying for it now if we're older but he gets to go into the simulator and uh I just because they, everyone knows him, everyone knows the dad, so they just let them do whatever they want. Yeah, let them go while somebody else is scheduled. Yeah. And we find, I mean, we find out that, that Doug is a good pilot and he's able to, I mean, he obviously, because when we had that flashback, he is flying these jets with his dad. So he does all the simulator. He's got, he said he's got more simulator time than any, any of the pilots.
Starting point is 00:27:27 it's on the base and then he's he's got flight time probably not as much so Doug's finally like look man this is this is this ain't happening man we need we need to do something he and oh we did meet Lou Gosser Jr's character earlier Chappie Colonel Charles Chappie Sinclair because before Doug and Notcher had that race um Chappie was trying to fix Doug's airplane to help it go a little bit faster. But when
Starting point is 00:28:05 Chappie was the one that was supposed to be in the simulator, but Doug went in there and stole his time. So Chappie just, I'll come back and do it another time. But Doug was trying to get Chappie to help him try to figure out what they should do for his father. But he's telling him, like, look, man,
Starting point is 00:28:23 just go home, be a kid, graduate. There's nothing you can do. about your father, but Doug isn't hearing it. He's like, look, man, he goes, look, I, just because the U.S. government doesn't have the balls to go get my dad, but I do, but can it be done? And Chappi's like, dude, you're going to kill yourself if you try to do this. Just forget about it and go live your life. But Chabby did say, he goes, I've known you, I know who your dad is.
Starting point is 00:28:51 He goes so, but he goes, there's nothing you can do. but Doug wasn't taking any of that. He was like, F this, he came up with a plan and his plan was to go have a rescue mission
Starting point is 00:29:06 on himself. But he couldn't do it alone. And luckily, all of his friends that are in this movie, all their family, they're all military brats. So they...
Starting point is 00:29:19 This is when we get the montage? Yeah, we get the montage of them figure out on what, they're going to do on how they're going to do it and everything so basically all the guys go to work because Doug has has this plan this is what we're going to do and he starts going to work laying out where this place is where they got his dad what what they're going to deal with what kind of um issues on how to get there and who
Starting point is 00:29:55 they're going to be dealing with if it has to come down to combat. So he figured he thought he had some time before this trial happens for his dad. So he figured he has this much time to try to figure out what we're going to do. But then they find out later that his dad's trial has moved up and he's going to be tried for it in the next couple days. So Doug got all his crew together and look, this is what we're going to do. I need your help, and this is what you need to help me to do. So all these, everybody in this crew, their dad is a somebody in the Air Force.
Starting point is 00:30:37 So this is when they all go to work. Oliver's dad is, I don't know, he's some kind of maps or whatever because he was able to, no, no, no. He was able to get, I think, flight logs and everything dealing with all the jets on the base. and I think fueling schedules and everything because he starts doing that. The girls, they go and get maps of the area where Doug's dad is because one of the girls' dads runs
Starting point is 00:31:08 the, I don't know, the secret mappings of the world or if you think so. Always was very easy. Yeah, different times everyone. Again, pre-9-11, you could go and do whatever you want on this military base. So they go to work and everything. I love this montage because this is when Twisted Sisters,
Starting point is 00:31:32 we're not going to take it. It's playing in the background. Stiles and Doug show up to the Air Force base trying to get in and they want to look at the jets. But the guy at the gate is like, nah, you know I can't let you in. But Stiles was like, hey, man, my sister was asking about you. She'd like it if you'd let us.
Starting point is 00:31:53 in and this guy I mean no kind of security clearance or anything all right man since your sister wants to go on go on in so they go in
Starting point is 00:32:04 and it starts scouting around the base and everything just checking out basically where they're where they're keeping all the jets and everything. I want to know what styles of system
Starting point is 00:32:13 looks like now. Yeah. That guy was ready to risk it. To risk it all his career and letting in people
Starting point is 00:32:23 that should be in there and going to military prison and everything so but this other guy he he was someone in the 80s is one young blonde guy I can't remember his name he was in one of those shows on
Starting point is 00:32:39 NBC NBC I can't remember but what they do for him it was what did it say I'm watching this everyone I said something on the door something about scheduling let me see because Stiles and Lamar have to set off
Starting point is 00:32:57 traps Okay scheduling hangar I think okay so basically scheduling on where all the jets are So they're in this hangar and we see mechanics Everybody working on jets Styles and Lamar are dressed up In military gear
Starting point is 00:33:13 And I don't know what Lamar's wearing But he's got the blues on And all these metals and everything all over them and styles is just wearing a flight suit and they're throwing firecrackers into this steel drum and everyone thinks it's gunfire and everyone's ducking and they're just laughing
Starting point is 00:33:31 and okay I assume there's no cameras in this hangar to catch them all to catch them all so yeah so they're still trying to figure out everything so once this whole montage is done Doug goes to chappy to try to talk him again on helping him.
Starting point is 00:33:53 So these guys, all these kids, little high school kids, outsmarted everybody in this Air Force base to get all this top secret shit that you can just, that they have on computers, that they have in these map rooms and everything. And just luckily their parents worked at these places. So Doug goes to Chappie with all the intel that they have. have. And then Chappi's just finding like, basically telling him this is a suicide mission kid, what are you doing?
Starting point is 00:34:28 But then Chappi's like, ah, F it. Since they're not going to help, I'll help you. But Chappie takes Doug into his little, his little workroom. And Chappie has already started his own thing on what he would do to go rescue Doug. because when they go in a rescue Doug's dad, Ted, when he goes in there, he sees that he's got all kinds of shit laid out, and he's trying to plan everything.
Starting point is 00:35:00 So that's when Chapie's like, all right, well, what do you got? So he starts breaking out everything, all the intel that they had, they got together. And Chapby's like, he wants to work, so he's got an old jukebox in there, so he kicks in the godfather of soul, some James Brown. I can't remember the name of the song. I think there's like the second song that was real that everyone should have known. So I'm sure they paid an arm and a leg
Starting point is 00:35:26 for this James Brown song and the Twisted Sister song. So at all the intel they had, other than maps and everything, of the area and where they were, they had surveillance photos. And I assume it's those, I don't know if they were drones back then. They were probably those aircraft
Starting point is 00:35:45 that could fly super high and take pictures of the ground because they got all kinds of shit laid out of this area where wherever his dad's being taken care of like runways and where the towers are and the structural of everything so they're just trying to figure it all out. Kids probably could have found out about Area 51 if they kept going. They probably had, I'm sure you could have pulled it up on all these little top secret
Starting point is 00:36:19 computers that they had access to that no one gave a fuck alright so I know Oliver's dad he just kept talking secrets and stuff in front of his son like it was nothing
Starting point is 00:36:33 yeah this is all military shit prison that you could go to for just telling anybody of it but so yeah they're going to work trying to figure everything out we go back over to overseas and we see that they're torturing
Starting point is 00:36:48 Ted's dad beating him up. They didn't really like they weren't beating him up to try to get any kind of information out of them. I mean they were just beating him up just to beat him up because they did just like you're going to be tried and when you're guilty you're found guilty
Starting point is 00:37:09 we're killing you. Yeah. But before the whole plan gets into motion And Chappie goes up with Doug, gets him in the air to give him some training to see if he can do what he says he can do. So they go up and we have this little crazy, a little scene when Doug's flying around the jets. And I guess they just load these planes up with bombs and all the rounds it can carry to practice with. Because Doug's flying around.
Starting point is 00:37:45 Chapy's talking in his ear All right, this is what you need to do. These are the targets. So Doug flies over, drops a few bombs on these targets that are on some beach somewhere, but he misses. And Doug keeps trying to tell him like,
Starting point is 00:38:00 look, man, he goes, let me do it the way I need to do it. Because before when they went that when they took off, Doug turned his music on. And then Chappie's like, just turn that shit off. Come on, this is serious. So when Doug turns,
Starting point is 00:38:15 it off and he goes after to try to blow up these targets he just misses completely he's only he only misses by like a few feet but um chap he's like look man this is this is it man you can't do it you can't go over there with this type of with these skills that you say you have
Starting point is 00:38:33 because you're just going to end up dead and they're going to kill your father but Doug's like no man he goes let me do it my way he turns on the music and I don't know who these artists are again shout out to these guys and put the their music is in a movie. I'm just a guy talking
Starting point is 00:38:49 shit, but so Doug, he gets into the groove and he blows up all the targets and then Chappi's kind of like, well, shit, all right, well, maybe you're right. Maybe you do need to listen to this music. Just like Google said. I love the technology
Starting point is 00:39:08 it has in this in the cockpit. It's just, again, I don't know how these planes operate. Maybe that's how it is in there. Like Top Gun, when we see them in the jets,
Starting point is 00:39:24 it's just either a blue background or screens just showing the ground moving and everything. But this, it looks really bad in this one. I mean, you can't even see the
Starting point is 00:39:40 tail of the jet. You just see them and this movie screen moving all around in the background and the camera shaking like they're like they're flying in this jet so all right once they do that and then chappie realizes all right Doug you can do it you can go in there and blow these fools up but now we need to work out how we're going to do this put this at this plan into action so they end up doing that they find they found they got scheduling to look we're going to take these jets we're going to fly out we're going to hook up with a fueler that's going to fuel us before we get to where we need to go
Starting point is 00:40:25 so they end up doing all that all the kids still while they're in the air flying over to pick to rescue his dad all the kids are still in action doing what they're supposed to do to try to help with the plan. So they're flying over there. They're flying really low over and then they finally get to their destination and everything.
Starting point is 00:40:50 And I guess they're going to be, they go up against some migs that come flying up on them. And I trying to really, okay, the planes that the enemies are flying are mig 23 fighters.
Starting point is 00:41:08 So they kind of go after, the migs show up and they kind of go after them and they have a little dog fight and Doug ends up taking them out. The scenes when they're showing the
Starting point is 00:41:20 jets flying around, they look real, but you can tell which ones were real and which were models. Because the models they look legit, but it just
Starting point is 00:41:34 the background, it just looks fake as hell. but yeah Doug ends up taking them out and I like it because when the planes blow up you can clearly see these models were made out of wood because it's like wood splinters
Starting point is 00:41:52 all over the place but while they're having this dog fight Chappie gets shot by one of the migs and then he tries to just get the hell out of there but he doesn't get far and his jet goes down
Starting point is 00:42:08 into the water and Doug's Chapie start screaming but before before he went down he was telling look he was like he Chapie made a bunch of tapes
Starting point is 00:42:19 or a couple tapes for Doug to like look if shit goes sideways you need to listen to these tapes it'll help you so after Chapie goes down he tells him he goes look if something goes bad
Starting point is 00:42:31 just fucking fly up as high as you can and then listen to your tape so that's when Doug flies way up in the sky and he puts in the tape and he's listening to it and he's telling him, they're like, look, if you're listening to this,
Starting point is 00:42:47 something went wrong. But this, I'm still going to help you. So Chappie's just kind of talking him up and basically tells him, look, you've got to be there at this time and you have this long before the enemies can either get off the ground and get you. So Doug's like, ah, fuck
Starting point is 00:43:06 it. So he finally flies over to where his dad's at and he kind of communicates with them telling them that this is the United States Air Force I'm here to pick up Colonel Ted Masters and if you don't bring him out
Starting point is 00:43:23 to whatever runway I'm gonna start blowing up your oil refineries you know all the bad guys are like yeah fuck you man this guy can't do nothing so I guess he gave him like a time limit or something. If he's not eye on the next
Starting point is 00:43:40 whatever, whatever, we're going to blow him up. So they kind of basically didn't want to listen to him and he's like, well, all right, shit. You don't think so? You just lost a refinery. So he goes flying over to one of the refineries and blows it up.
Starting point is 00:43:56 But before that, they were trying to get some helicopters and everything off the ground to try to shoot him down. But he ends up blowing those up. Because he comes, when he flies over the the little base where he's at, he just starts unloading missiles and blowing up
Starting point is 00:44:11 communication towers and everything else he can blow up. The thing that's funny, though, is when he starts shooting things, the tents that are right there. I assume these tents are full of explosives because they start, they all start blowing up. So it was a huge
Starting point is 00:44:27 explosion fest when he went, his first flyby there to show him that he was no joke. But he's telling him, yeah, you need to bring him out to the Northmost run away and leave him there by himself and I'm going to come pick him up and then that's when they're
Starting point is 00:44:43 telling him like nah we ain't doing nothing for you because he he was telling him look I'm not I'm not out here by myself man I got my buddies on standby so you better listen to me or we can come back and blow this whole place up that's basically what he said so
Starting point is 00:44:59 but when they didn't do that they didn't follow his orders that's when he went and blew up the refinery because he flew out there and just starts blowing the shit out of these huge oil things. So he goes back and then they're like, all right, they're going to just bring him out. So they end up bringing out his dad. His dad's in a Jeep.
Starting point is 00:45:23 They told him to get to bring him out and take him way to at the end of the runway and I'm going to pick him up there. So his dad's there. He's a G-dri-dry's way out there. Doug's come, he's about to land. and well he basically did land but when his dad was screaming and yelling for him there was a sniper
Starting point is 00:45:42 up on one of the little towers or whatever and it shot and he shot his dad his dad gets hit in the shoulder Doug kind of like touched down but then he's like fuck it kicked in and just fucking took off again and he turned around ah son of a bitch so
Starting point is 00:46:00 he starts going after him but then these guys got a surprise for him They got all these surface missiles and all these big old things pointed at him. And they start launching missiles at Doug while he's flying around. But Doug pops in one of his magic tapes and starts rocking out. And all these missiles are missing him. So he turns around and starts shooting at these little jeeps that are shooting the missiles. And he starts blowing all that stuff up.
Starting point is 00:46:31 And little model missiles, his little model. flying around, blowing up everything he can see. And I love these. I mean, shout out to the stunt guys, because when the explosions are blowing up, these guys are like flying all over the place. He ends up blowing up the tower. And I don't know how all of them got out of it so fast because of the main, the main bad guy, the general colonel or whatever he is, he's, he was up there.
Starting point is 00:47:01 And I don't know how many missiles and rounds. that this F-16 holds but he's dropping them left and right and he still has a ton left I don't I don't understand I don't know everyone it's the 80s movie
Starting point is 00:47:16 so he flies back over and he drops napalm on the runway and it just huge wall of flames Doug is a dad he got shot but he got shot on his shoulder but he was still alive
Starting point is 00:47:31 so he's like fuck so after he laid down that explosion Doug ends up landing to get his dad and then so his dad's like oh yeah cool
Starting point is 00:47:44 and his dad's like where the fuck is everyone else he goes there is no one else it's just you and I come on let's go those dad jumps in the jet and then they end up taking off but that huge wall of flame
Starting point is 00:47:55 everyone stopped and all the bad guys they were like they weren't going to go through it but then the main bad guy like anyone who's got some balls or whatever he says you need to go through that flames and get them so they got some jeeps loaded up and they go crashing through the through the fire but i assume there's big uh explosion holes because they go through the fires and then the jeeps flip over and they blow up and fall out
Starting point is 00:48:21 but it gives uh dug plenty of time to land and pick up his dad and then they end up taking off so once they got in the air uh they were just trying to get out of there but uh the main bad guy He jumps up. He's a pilot himself, so he gets up and tells one of those dudes, get out. I'm getting in. So he gets in the air. And his little Meg 23, and they go flying after him. So they're having a dog fight.
Starting point is 00:48:48 They got four of those Meg 23s chasing him. And he's just telling him, all right, man, just do what you do. Turn on your music and let's try not to get killed. So we have a dog fight where Doug takes them all on. again shout out to the pilots that were when the scenes when they do show them flying around but they end up uh they get they get they take a few hits and doug starts taking them down uh one by one with his fancy driving with whatever song he's listening to um he said magical tapes yeah so but i liked all these dog fighting uh scenes in it there was uh way more in this than there was in uh that other movie they came out this year. But clearly see that these are all models. They're models when they're up close, but when you actually see them flying off in a distance, those are all the real jets. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:49:47 Doug takes out all of them and it gets to the main guy. Supposedly, he's supposed to be a badass and an awesome pilot, but he like doesn't last that long at all. The other dudes that he was fighting with in the beginning when this dog fight started, man, they, they last at all. while because they were they were shooting at him and dropping their missiles and everything but Doug dig to Doug did take some hits but he um before he ended up killing the uh the main bad guy he uh he fought him and he took him down and uh that was weak because he like shot a missile or whatever and then that guy just went ah and then his jet blew up for as hard as that guy was trying to be through the whole movie he went out
Starting point is 00:50:36 like hella soft so they're like fuck and they're like all right man but two more migs show up and they're like fuck and he's like telling him we have no more missiles and we're out of ammo so we got to get the hell out of here so his dad's like man fuck it punch it
Starting point is 00:50:52 so they're hauling ass but then they're starting to get readings that there's more migs in the air but it turns out to be the the heroes the US Air Force shows up and so when they come when they get they see them on the radar but when they finally get communication saying hey colonel we're uh we're here to help you and then they they
Starting point is 00:51:16 whoever's in charge of those guys he starts talking to the megs like look if you guys don't uh get off his tail we're going to be forced to shoot you down and those two migs like fuck this they fly off so they're all happy but um they did tell him that Colonel Sinclair ended up didn't make it. So they're like, all right, well, just fly into our formation and we'll get you back back to safety.
Starting point is 00:51:47 So they knew they were ass out. They get back home. Everyone's happy. But Doug and his dad have to go up against the Air Force Court or whatever. So Doug knows that he's going to have to time to pay the fiddler.
Starting point is 00:52:08 So he goes in, he's getting ready to go into the courtroom. His dad's got nothing to do with it. I mean, his dad was just a prisoner of war. So he doesn't have to go in there and say anything. But when Doug walks up there, he hears somebody, and it turns out it's Chappie. Chappie ended up surviving that crass.
Starting point is 00:52:29 He says he ejected before he hit, and some boat picked him up, and then he got him to shore. he got him to shore and he was able to get communicate with the higher-ups and get back. So the courts, they go through the whole thing. Look, you stole these planes.
Starting point is 00:52:47 You went and almost started a war and all this just reading out, all this things. And Doug's like, I'll take whatever punishment you're going to give them. And they're kind of reaming out Chappie as well. But before they get sentenced, Chapie's like the main guys
Starting point is 00:53:07 is the general General Edwards he's telling him like look you guys can't say anything this didn't happen and if you don't then we're going to send you to jail because they basically told him look
Starting point is 00:53:21 well you're not going to jail but you can't keep your mouth shut with all this you can't say anything on this within Chapie's like well you know what I think you need to put him somewhere where they will teach him to keep his mouth shut. And then the general's like, well, what are you suggesting? He goes, well, he was recently not accepted into the Air Force Academy.
Starting point is 00:53:47 Is there something you guys can do to help him get in there so he can learn some discipline? And then so they're like, all right. And then in the end, he rescues his dad. He gets to go to Air Force Academy because in order to do. keep his mouth shut and I assume they didn't do nothing to Chappie I mean he's just as guilty as Doug for going over the stealing
Starting point is 00:54:13 Chappie's got some pull or something I don't know he should have went to prison for all this shit but they just close it out as it was just it was training exercises that got bad
Starting point is 00:54:29 because they said there is rumors that there was supposed to be a trial in this but the Air Force is saying that that was all fake and everything. So Doug gets what he wants. He goes to the military. Chappie doesn't go to prison. His dad's home, back where he belongs in a good old US of A.
Starting point is 00:54:47 They end up flying them all back. Everyone's there. The whole Iron Eagle gang. And then when the Chappie comes off, they go running after. Colonel Doug Masters comes out, and everyone's happy to see him. And then here comes Doug.
Starting point is 00:55:02 He comes running out. his crew is yeah and that's the end of your movie uh i love this movie it is goofy and everything and the effects aren't the greatest but this is what i wanted in a jet movie jets fighting and yes it's unbelievable but i loved it it was awesome for what it was it was a cool little story. Did you ever watch any other ones? I think I saw like half of the second one and just tapped out of it. I have never seen, but
Starting point is 00:55:39 I know the second ones on HBO Max as well. I think the third one is too. I'm not really sure. So, but yeah, I wanted to read this poster, but it's not a
Starting point is 00:55:55 good image. Let me try to find a real one of it. but yeah this movie is awesome I mean it's it's on HBO Max and to me it still holds up I hold it higher than top gun okay this is a good old 80s when they wrote paragraphs on the posters Doug is 18 raised on Air Force Base and born the flies father's been shot down 6,000 miles away and has been sentenced to death for a crime of being an American for the crime of being an American.
Starting point is 00:56:31 All right. Everyone's telling Doug to sit tight and wait. Everyone but retired Air Force Colonel Chappie Sinclair. They know what they have to do and they have borrowed a pair of F-16s to do it. For them, waiting time
Starting point is 00:56:46 is over. I want this poster too. I need to hang in in the studio. I'm not really sure what else I know he was in backdraft and I those are only two films
Starting point is 00:57:04 he was in the beginning a spoiler alert of Iron Eagle too and then it went sideways but he did you watch lethal weapon the TV series? Yeah he was in one episode of that
Starting point is 00:57:21 I remember him I couldn't tell you he did a lot of TV he was in Dexter I don't remember that yeah I just remember this in backdraft but yeah he did a lot
Starting point is 00:57:41 he had a bigger TV career than than he did in movies oh he was in bad boys too he was one of the the bad boys in the not the one with Will Smith and Martin Law the one with Sean Penn and Eastside Morales I remember. Yeah, he was in that. He was just kind of in the background. One of the kids locked up.
Starting point is 00:58:04 Risky business? I don't remember him in that. The heavenly kid. Oh, okay. Yeah, he was, this is the heavenly kid is what he did right before Iron Eagle. All right. I remember, I knew he was in another movie where he was a star. He was much younger than that one. I don't know if you guys have seen that. It's on Prime if you haven't seen it. It's a little goofy 80s. comedy the heavenly kid uh he would guess he was a born fourth of july see i saw that movie once i don't remember it at all but uh it looks like he still got his career going he's still doing tv and uh little small roles here and there but yeah everyone that was uh iron eagle uh 1986 uh best of the 80 shout out to lamar and styles and uh shawney smith that was only in there for like second and uh all over but all right brad what do we got next all right this one's for the the late great fred ward and that's nineteen eighty five's rimo williams the adventure begins and where's this stream streaming at it is on toby but i
Starting point is 00:59:19 just recently picked up the blue ray that came out of no lorber i need to get it Um, it was on YouTube. I wonder if it still is. For those of you that have YouTube prime or whatever the hell is called, it was on there. Remo Williams. And it is. Okay, it's still on YouTube premium. So no to be commercials for me.
Starting point is 00:59:51 But yeah, everyone, uh, thank you for, uh, coming and checking us out. of you knew the show you got a ton more to listen to this was episode I don't even know do you no oh oh and after Rima Williams I put a poll on
Starting point is 01:00:10 the action returns because we haven't done a franchise in a while and people voted for Mad Max all right this is episode 58 yeah because the last one was that top good
Starting point is 01:00:24 and uh or Maverick. Yeah, all right, everyone. Yeah, 50, episode 58. But yeah, come back for, what was it again? Oh, Rima Williams. Yeah. Come back next week for that. And when you're done with that, going over to stream vines, and we're going to be listening to or talking about white men can't jump and everything else. Mad Max, did you get the steel books? No, I didn't. But I see that. I'm thinking about getting, they're putting those steelbooks in a box set. I know, I saw that after.
Starting point is 01:01:05 There you go. Yeah. I got the first little tin case that it came in. Yeah, I got that one. I had that one. But the only steelbooks I picked up were Road Warrior and Beyond Thunderdome. I do, I do have Fury Road on Steelbook. When we get to that one, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:28 Yeah, everyone, thank you so much for listening. And again, if I sold it to you, and if you haven't seen this awesome film, Iron Eagle streaming on HBO Max. So with that, go over to Horror Returns.com and check out everything there, dealing with the network. Go over to T-Public and buy a T-shirt.
Starting point is 01:01:46 If you want to hear my voice some more, shoot on over to Skaterness Podcast Network and listen to E-Society and McNiz and everything and listen to our anchor feed as well. I got a new anchor up But well, it should be up in Either before or after you hear this A friend of the show, Mike J. Moran, he came on and we ran through
Starting point is 01:02:07 What the hell was it? Like the best Zombie movies or something like that. I think that's what it was called. And Yeah, listen to that episode It was far from the best zombie movies, but
Starting point is 01:02:28 yeah. I got another list coming. Okay, yeah, that one, that was the best zombie movies of the 1980s ranked. And there was only six. I thought there would have been a ton, but yeah, listen to that one. The next one Mike and I are going to do, oh,
Starting point is 01:02:44 I need you as well. The 100 worst horror films of all time. I'm sure. I'm scared a lot of them. Yeah, I'm sure there's some Emmanyville's, and I'm sure there's what the fuck was that movie you guys did the first movie you did um the darkness oh god that and uh the something man um oh the empty man the the empty man the fuck something man um the bye bye bye bye yeah
Starting point is 01:03:26 Bye bye, bye, man. Yeah, go over to listen to Anchor when we do that. With that, I never read those lists. If you guys listen to our anchor feed when we do list, I don't read them until we're recording. So you're going to be shocked as I am when we start running down that list. Yeah, everyone just come back next week. So until then, be safe out there and party on.
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