The Horror Returns - The Action Returns - Ep. #7: Mission: Impossible (1996) & Mission: Impossible 2 (2000)

Episode Date: August 14, 2020

This week, we begin our retrospective of the entire Mission Impossible franchise with the first 2 films in the series. We tap into our inner Tom Cruise and Nez does all of his own stunts. We also dive... into listener feedback for the first time, so keep those cards and letters coming. Next week we will continue the mission. Yes, we do choose to accept it! Listen to this podcast now - before this message self destructs! Join The Action Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776 Follow The Action Returns on IG and X: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns Check out everything Horror Returns at: https://thehorrorreturns.com Join The Horror Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns Join the THR Presents: Stream Fiends Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/3860579827402429 Follow THR Stream Fiends on IG: @thrstreamfiends

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Starting point is 00:00:00 So, why don't we quietly get out of here onto a plane? I can understand you're very upset. Kittredge, you've never seen me very upset. All right, hot. Enough is enough. You have brought it, cajoled, and killed, and you have done it using loyalties on the inside. You want to shake hands with the devil that's fine with me. I just want to make sure that you do it in hell.
Starting point is 00:00:26 Returns, episode number seven. I'm your host, Brian, and of course. us. My co-host, Naz. What's up, Nas? Yeah, yeah, what's up, man? How's it going on? It's going. We're in the process of what they're calling a
Starting point is 00:01:24 four-week reset. They're shutting down all the restaurants for, you can't dine in any restaurants right now. And it's kind of hurting some of their business. I know a couple restaurants got taken to court over the weekend.
Starting point is 00:01:42 because they were refusing to shut down their dining in a dining section of the restaurant. But from what I understand, when they got told how much the fines was they went ahead and shut down. So probably best for them. Everyone's tune seems to change when they see these fines. I know nothing about it just on stuff that I read. I know there's something. Well, I was reading one. it wasn't a restaurant.
Starting point is 00:02:12 It was one of those water parks. And they were talking about, they didn't care because I guess whatever they were getting hit with, it was $500. And they were like, well, we don't care. We're still going to stay open.
Starting point is 00:02:25 They didn't tell them to close. They just told them to follow the safety guidelines and they weren't. Yeah. So they were getting hit like every day with $500. And then they were just like, well, it only takes like, 12 people to pay that.
Starting point is 00:02:44 And from what I understand, that park is, is packed, like, every day. I don't know. Yeah, chlorine may kill it,
Starting point is 00:02:52 but, uh, it's, it's, it's, it's, so, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:02:56 It's true. It's up to you, if you want to gamble like that. I don't know. Just everyone's still an uproar. I did go to a restaurant last week. Um,
Starting point is 00:03:10 And I was, I'm not going to shit you. I was scared that old time. We weren't inside. It was all outside, basically under those little canopies. There wasn't many people that. There was only like myself, my friend and two other people. Then like four other guys showed up, but they sat like way far away from their ones. I was like, well, all right.
Starting point is 00:03:35 I mean, we sat there with our masks on. We were the only one with masks on until the food came. at that point I was like, well, I ain't got it already, I mean, I was like, I fuck it,
Starting point is 00:03:49 so I just ate. But, um, the workers there were, were all they had the gloves on. They had the masks, and they had the hand sanitizer and all that, like right there.
Starting point is 00:04:01 And they were pretty much, as soon as someone got up and left, they were over there, like, basically wiping the whole place, the whole table down, chairs. They just give it,
Starting point is 00:04:10 the once over they like really went for it. Whoa, that's cool. Yeah, other than that, I don't think I'll be doing that again. I just felt, I don't know. I enjoyed my food, but I couldn't enjoy the time sitting there. Yeah, we were outside, but it was still kind of enclosed because they, it was a canopy. Then they put tarps around kids. It's right on the main street where I live.
Starting point is 00:04:36 So you get that constant traffic and semi and everyone rolling by. but I don't know. I mean, I'm okay, so thank goodness. I'm still a little worried about it all. I know some people, some of your listeners, are probably laughing, but I don't care. I'm going to worry about myself and my family and my friends and everything. Other than that, man, we're all good.
Starting point is 00:04:59 I did go see the Z soon. For those of you that do listen to the E-Ssociety, do check out our Arnold Schwarzenegger Commando episode. We did a commentary for that. That was really fun. We did that up at his house and his command center. And shout out to the guys that make these iPhones because we didn't have microphones or anything.
Starting point is 00:05:22 I just set my phone on his desk. And we just talked normal. And that microphone speaker, whatever, on these iPhones, picked it up and it sounded good. And I had to do a little tweaking with bringing the levels up a little bit. And I do that for every show no matter what. But I was surprised on how good it sound because I was kind of scared. Plus, it caught some of the TV noise.
Starting point is 00:05:47 We didn't have the TV full blast. We kind of had it on to where we can't hear it. And we had subtitles on. But that was fun. That's something that we've been talking about doing for a long time. So I'm glad we finally got to sit down and do it. We got more ideas. Hopefully, if he comes down here, if I go up there again, we'll do another one for you guys.
Starting point is 00:06:06 But everyone that did listen to it so far. Thank you so much. And we got more commentary stuff coming. Nice. Before we get into the movies, I'm going to bring back a little of the sports returns here. Two questions. One, does it feel like baseball to you when you see your Oakland A's
Starting point is 00:06:27 get into a brawl with the Houston Astros? Yeah, I mean, they're just mad that we swept that ass, but, yeah, it was still baseball. It was funny, seeing everybody run out there and fight. There was no screaming and cheering. I'm surprised they didn't just turn up the speakers during all that because they are doing the crowd effects, which I think is stupid, but all right, whatever.
Starting point is 00:06:58 If it helps the players play better. It was just basically whose dick is bigger, and that's just the way it goes. I mean, that's baseball. It's always been that way. But it made me laugh. And I'm sure the guys responsible are getting fined. I know I can't remember our player's name, but they were saying, well, he should have just walked to first and left it alone.
Starting point is 00:07:25 But, I mean, that's how he felt. I mean, I don't think he wanted it to fight, but that's how it turned out. But whatever. I mean, we still won. So, yeah. They were beating down there. Astros were beating down the Giants earlier, so that was good. And second question, your girl, Ruby Rye and my girl, Liv Morgan, back together again.
Starting point is 00:07:50 Are we going to see tag team gold on them? I hope so. It sucks that Sarah Logan got the axe, but she's pregnant now. So I guess that's kind of good that she's at home. I hope so I mean I loved Ruby riots especially in indie days and once she came on
Starting point is 00:08:14 the main roster and started doing what she was doing with the Riot Squad I thought all that was cool but it just felt them to me it just felt like they were just using her for like a jobber thing yeah they gave her her character
Starting point is 00:08:29 I mean well she had her own character but I mean they okay here we're gonna give you this but you're gonna lose you every match, win every now and then. So I'm hoping that there's just them too, because there was a fallout, which I thought was kind of stupid, but I kind of saw that they were going to get back together again. So I'm all for it.
Starting point is 00:08:51 If they put the belts on them, I'm all for that. But I don't know yet. We'll see, we'll see where it goes. I'm hoping that they at least do something with this duo. Don't give us two good wrestlers. do nothing with them. I don't know. My fingers across that they get the belts.
Starting point is 00:09:11 Yeah, I agree with you. Live Morgan. Bring back that blue tongue. Please. Well, why were, why were, with the wrestling returns? I mean, dude, the talent on AEW is just getting better and better.
Starting point is 00:09:30 And it's, it's WBE's loss. Yeah. I mean, I love Zach Ryder. Yeah, he's Matt Cordona now. Oh, he was big as shit when he showed up. Oh, yeah. I mean, he was always a good crowd pleaser, man.
Starting point is 00:09:47 When every time he came out for WWE as Zach Ryder, everybody was woo-wooing and cheering. I was. And when he won the belt, Intercontinental Belt at WrestleMania in Dallas, I was there. And I was hell of woo-wooing and everything. and I was I was really excited. I was glad he got his WrestleMania moment before they asked him. Yeah, it was a couple years later, but I didn't.
Starting point is 00:10:13 Kurt Hawkins? All right, I saw him going out the door, but the Zach Ryder one is what blew me away. I heard Kurt Hawkins went to impact wrestling. At least he's still working. So, I don't even know who they have. But, yeah, I just want them to do, which I think they are. I mean, I think Cody and the gang and all them, I don't know about this American badass or American nightmare or whatever.
Starting point is 00:10:45 He's going by. I love Cody Rose. He's awesome. But I don't know. Is that a real tattoo on his neck? Yeah. Yeah, it is. Really?
Starting point is 00:10:56 You had to put it right there. I mean, I'm all for America behind 100%. But right there. but right there on your neck. It's placed weird on his neck, too. It's kind of high up. I'd rather had it on his arm or maybe on his chest or something, but right there on his neck, yeah, it's, I don't know.
Starting point is 00:11:18 He is the suit-wearing guy, and you can clearly see it. It would just look weird, but that's his prerogative. And I can't blame him for that. I do love Brody Lee. I'm glad that he got he's getting his chance. there and um who else went than matt hardy which i thought was awesome but his his debut was terrible yeah did you did you see him get busted open the other day all right yeah um the people are saying he bladed himself but i i don't know i think when he hit that um
Starting point is 00:11:58 uh the the ring post i think that's when he's when he it started bleeding. Yeah, from what I understand, he's pissed off at Sammy Gavaro when he threw that chair at him. I don't know what kind of chair was, but I think they're saying the leg of the chair caught him on the head. Yeah, see, that's where I thought he caught it.
Starting point is 00:12:23 But I want to say he had blood on his head before, before the chair hit him. So I don't know. I mean, maybe he was dazed and wasn't ready for the chair because, yeah, that, that, that chair, I don't even think he knew that chair was coming because it looked like I hit him right in the face. Yeah. That was a lot of blood. I mean, when he stood up and it was all over, or it was all over the table, it was like a big pool and it was just pouring down his face. I'm like, I don't know how much blood's in your head, but damn, that was a lot.
Starting point is 00:12:59 Yeah, AEW is definitely like, I've got to be honest, I haven't really been keeping up with Raw or Smackdown. Smackdown has been complete garbage. I've mostly, I've been trying to keep up with AEW and NXT. Yeah, I mean, those are pretty much the only two that I really watch. Raw on Smackdown, I just watched the highlights. And if I did miss something, I'll go to Hulu and look for it. Yeah, I mean, it's, I've said this many times, raw. I mean, I watch it.
Starting point is 00:13:37 I watch every pay-per-view, but raw is just three hours or, let's say, two hours and 50 minutes of talking and 10 minutes of wrestling altogether. Mack down. There's a little more wrestling than that, but they do a lot of talking. I know you got to build up storylines, but do it in the ring. Don't do it on the outskirts. and let everyone watch it on the big screens. I don't know. Well, there's,
Starting point is 00:14:08 are those all the scrubs that are in the audience? Because sometimes I never see them. They're like the, the, the new people for NXT, the new signies, the up-and-comers that haven't been on TV yet. Like the Nexus guys? Yeah. All right. I mean, sometimes, you know, they got my girl in the crowd.
Starting point is 00:14:31 She'd be hyped up, what's her name, Shotsie Blackheart, she'll be driving the little tank. Yeah, I like her. Yeah, she's like amped up in the crowd when she's out there. So. It is better that they're there.
Starting point is 00:14:50 I mean, as well as AEW. It looks like AEW is letting some select fans in, but they're still, they're on the bleachers. And there's no social, distancing. And keeping with wrestling really quick, I noticed they started doing indie shows. And everyone there is a requirement for the ones that I've seen.
Starting point is 00:15:13 Everyone is wearing masks and everything. But they're still like, it's still a free for all. There's no social distancing. Everyone's still pretty much right there. If I went to one, I would stand in the back. I mean, I would love to go. I love the house, the little indie house. little indie house shows and everything,
Starting point is 00:15:32 but I don't know if I'm ready to be elbow to elbow with strangers yet. I mean, I know especially when I'm in the store, man, I'm ducking and dodging everybody as much as I can. And that's a workout as it is. I don't know.
Starting point is 00:15:48 We'll see where it all goes. All right. So let's get into these movies. We told everybody we was going to take a deep dive into these Mission Impossible movies. So let's start with 1996's
Starting point is 00:16:04 Mission Impossible This is your mission should you choose to accept it Simple game Is he serious? All of these It's much worse to you think
Starting point is 00:16:19 You understand you're very upset You've never seen me very upset This tape will self-destruct in five seconds PG-13 This stars Tom Cruise, John Voigt Emmanuel Barrett Jean Reno
Starting point is 00:16:44 Ving Rames Kristen Scott Thomas Vanessa Redgrave and of course Emilio Estevez Now this is something I This is something I completely forgot But Brian De Palma directed this one
Starting point is 00:17:00 Yeah I didn't know that Until I sat down and watched it the first time because many of my brothers wouldn't seen this. They were kind of unfamiliar with the whole mission impossible. I mean, I told them it was a TV show back in the day. How are our parents.
Starting point is 00:17:22 When my dad watched, he said he watched him in his younger years and he liked it. I told him he should watch these films. I said, you probably like them. I mean, don't expect the slappy stickiness of the TV show. I said, but I said, there's still good action shows to watch. So not sure if he watched them yet. But, yeah, my brothers were unfamiliar with who Tom, who Tom Cruise was.
Starting point is 00:17:46 Really, I mean, they were just little guys when this came out. But when the movie was over, said and done, they really enjoyed it. They thought all the action was there and the suspense. And had to do some thinking. I guess you got to do thinking with all these movies. But this is the one, I mean, I really enjoyed this one. The very first one, and I had no idea Brian De Palma directed this one until they showed his name.
Starting point is 00:18:11 So I was like, oh, right on, cool. But as far as a movie as a whole, I enjoy this one. This one is out of all six. This is my favorite one. I loved all of them, not so much the second, but we'll get that to get to that one in a minute. But overall, I thought this one was really good. I liked the story that they had. loved. All the actors that were in it were good. I mean,
Starting point is 00:18:37 John Voight, I mean, he's good and everything he is. Vanessa Redgrave, I love her, and whenever she pops up into this. I don't know what it is, man. I've always liked her. I'm like those older women for some reason. I don't know why. But I do. So I liked her in this. I was not a fan of the group of Claire John Voight's
Starting point is 00:19:07 wife in this name how do you pronounce her last name? Oh, Emmanuel Barrett. Yeah. Burrette. She, I don't know, she can't act. And I don't know, I mean,
Starting point is 00:19:21 that was probably my biggest flaw on this whole film. I just didn't, I didn't like her character. Yeah, I agree with you. She was kind of, I don't know, Because out of all the films, I think she's probably the weakest female co-star out of all six films. And she just kind of seemed misplaced throughout this one.
Starting point is 00:19:48 I agree with you. I really enjoy this one. This one probably out of all of them is the most James Bond-esque as far as the spy and espionage stuff about not knowing who to trust. and not knowing what's going on. And, yeah, I really, really enjoyed this one on a rewatch more than the second one. Like you said, we'll get to it because the second one is a completely different direction than what this one was going for. But, yeah, I liked everybody in it. I like, I like movies when they assemble a team.
Starting point is 00:20:27 You know, you got Ving Rames, who's been there through every single movie. little piss that we barely got Emilio Estevez, which I think he goes uncredited in the movie. But of course, you know, if you know Emilio Estevez, you know who he is. Jean-Renaud, Renee, Renaud, I don't know how to say his last name. I wasn't really digging him as a fucking bad guy in this one because he pulls the okie-doke on Tom Cruise. he's on his team and then he ends up working for somebody else
Starting point is 00:21:04 and wasn't really feeling him in this one but John Voigt I liked him as the villain in this one because I remember originally watching this how I really thought he had died the whole time and then when he came back he was still playing that role that he was on Tom Cruise's side
Starting point is 00:21:26 until Tom Cruise started to put it together and that was probably one of my favorite scenes because I love when somebody puts the mystery together and yeah, definitely a good rewatch. How did you feel about the action in this one? It was minimal compared to the rest. But then again, this is the first one. We had no idea where it was going to go.
Starting point is 00:21:53 To me, the only thing that didn't hold up, I mean, I do love the end scene. I mean, we're going to jump all over with this one. You guys should have seen it by now. The train scene. I love it, but the effects, it does not hold up at all. I mean, especially because of the next few films or the next five films, as far as action and with Tom Cruise.
Starting point is 00:22:22 We'll get to more in the second one. And when we get to the other films, but it just seemed like it was just, it was so hokey looking. I mean, that was my only problem. And I loved it. I mean, I still think it's for as bad as it looks. And it looked awesome in 96, but. Oh, yeah. It, that didn't hold up to me.
Starting point is 00:22:41 I mean, I still loved, I still love it. I was when we were watching it the other night, I told my wife, I was like, oh, this is one of my favorite scenes. I said, no, the first, my first favorite scene was the one when he was in the vault. But then I said, oh, this is my favorite scene. And then she kind of caught me. She said, well, I thought you said that other thing. You know what I mean. But the ending, I mean, it just looked so cheap and cheesy.
Starting point is 00:23:05 But, I mean, I'm not going to kid anybody. I was on the edge of my seat the very first time I saw this during that scene. I mean, sitting in the theater, which we all miss. Just full blast surround sound of the train and the helicopter, which would no way. No, no. even back then when I first thought I didn't buy that but it was still cool
Starting point is 00:23:27 the vault scene was probably the the most iconic scene and that's all we saw I mean especially during the trailers before the movie and came out I mean that whole thing I mean John Reno must have been
Starting point is 00:23:43 hella strong and I'll give it to Tom Cruise so I am in no kind of shape like that to keep myself straight as a bore Well, a little fun fact here, according to IMDV, I guess he kept hitting his head because he wasn't able to balance until they figured out
Starting point is 00:24:03 to put a bunch of coins in his shoes to level him out. Yeah, I mean, Tom Cruise isn't a big gentleman, and I would, I mean, just watching that scene. Like, how, yeah, how did they do that? I mean, because if they did do the strings all over him, other than what was around his waist, I don't have been, all right.
Starting point is 00:24:29 Well, they just erase it. But I didn't know they did the coins thing. And that's good. I mean, it did balance him out because he was just inches from the floor and just staying as straight as possible and trying not to touch the floor. I mean, that's, I know those guys that have done it. I mean, I watched those videos when they tried to debunk things, and they had guys doing it.
Starting point is 00:24:56 But these guys were like in super duper good shape. I mean, like if we went in there, we, I don't even think we would have gotten close to the, to the vaults. I'm not even getting in the harness. I already know that. I mean, that scene. And, yeah, as far as the scenes when Ethan Hunt, Tom Cruise, when he figures out everything. I mean, other than the scene when he's.
Starting point is 00:25:20 When John Void is telling him his story, John Voight was Jim Phelps, when he was telling him his story on what happened to him, and Tom Cruise putting it all together. I love this scene when Ethan Hunt is sitting in that restaurant with that Kittridge guy, who was the head of the CIA or whatever they were. I love that scene to where he just walks into a room and notices everybody, before he sits down. I'm sure he knew where all the exits were
Starting point is 00:25:54 because when he's sitting there listening to Kittred, he did tell him, why was there a second team there? He was like, what do you mean second team? Then he said, all right, we're going to go around the room. That couple over there, they were the drunk couple outside. All right, that dude sitting behind you was a waiter behind one of the other guy. I was like, damn. I just loved all that.
Starting point is 00:26:16 I thought it was, I mean, I think out of all the movies, This is the only one to me, in my opinion, that felt like the TV show. I mean, yeah, the TV show, it is what it is. It was awesome for the time, but it was hokey, like any other TV show made back in the day. I mean, but I still loved what was going on. There was a lot of switching sides. You didn't know who to trust and who was good, who was bad. I mean, I love that they did all that type of stuff.
Starting point is 00:26:45 And I just love when they go over to all parts of the world. dealing with these missions because the IMF was their crew and that was impossible missions force I was like all right cool I forget all that stuff as time goes on but once rewatching these things these films it's amazing um but I mean overall I mean the film it is good I mean it was a really good story it was I mean if you've never seen before um maybe stop go see it or watch it and then come back to us. But I mean, overall, I still think this movie still holds up after all the years it's been out. And like I said, some of the effects don't hold up, but it still doesn't take anything away from the awesomeness that is Mission Impossible. And I had no idea that they were
Starting point is 00:27:35 going to turn this into a franchise. And I'm kind of glad they did. I'm glad that Tom Cruise did take over as one of the producers. And I really love that he's doing the Jackie Chan thing with doing all his own stunts. Because it was like, as the movies went on, the stunts just got bigger and bigger. A lot of people say Tom Cruise is the vampire because he does not age. He makes you believe he can do any of these stunts. Like, neither he's going to do them or he's going to, you know, at least give it a good attempt. I know you don't like this movie, but I'm going to bring it up.
Starting point is 00:28:13 In the new Top Gun trailer, he makes me feel like he's actually flying the plane. I don't like the first one. I don't want to get into it now because it's a shocker to everyone when I announced this. I am excited for the second one because he was in those jets with him. He's not flying him, but he's in there. I mean, not like if you watch Top Gun now, I mean, I mean, listen to the East Society. You need to come on with us when I start getting.
Starting point is 00:28:48 giving my reasons why it's garbage. But yeah, I mean, I'm super duper excited for Top Gun 2. If we get it in the theater, I'm going to mask up and everything and go see it. But if I have to watch it at home, I'll be a little disappointed, but I'm sure I'll still love it. I'll just have to turn up my speakers that much louder to enjoy the loud jets. I would prefer to see it on the IMAX screen, but I don't know. I mean, as far as these films, too, I saw the last two in IMAX. We'll get to those when we get to them.
Starting point is 00:29:24 But with this one, the mission impossible, I mean, it was, the mission wasn't possible. That's what I'm trying to say. I mean, we'll get to the second one in a minute, but this one was awesome. I mean, for what they tried to do, the whole purpose of this is they were trying to figure out. The CIA was trying to, there was a mole in the, what was there, who did they work for? I mean, were they working for the CIA? I don't remember.
Starting point is 00:29:57 I just remember they had their own little secret force. Yeah, I think that's what they had, because I don't think you're ever really clear on who they actually work for throughout the movies. Yeah, I mean, they just put them on all these impossible missions. So, I mean, that was good. But I liked what they did with trying to find out who the mole was. I loved how they were doing the setups for Ethan,
Starting point is 00:30:30 especially dealing with his aunt and his uncle, and he said that they were drug runners, drug smugglers. I mean, they did that just to try to lure him out of hiding because they were saying Ethan Hunt is just, if he's going to be hidden, there's no way they're going to find him. I mean, even the head of the CIA, Kittridge, he even said that. He said, that's what they, guys are trained for he goes so there's no way we're going to find them so we need to try to
Starting point is 00:30:56 fish him out i mean i loved all that i did the like i said before we loved the you didn't know who to trust who was good who was bad because it made it seem like kitrich was bad so and that guy that that that actor he just he just seemed like the asshole of the bunch yeah well also even that in that restaurant scene the way the the scenes were shot the up close of their face it kind of for a second, if you've never seen these movies, you might have thought that Tom Cruise was kind of shady, just the way they were shooting close shots of their face. Yeah, because that scene in the restaurant before he puts the piece of gum together
Starting point is 00:31:38 and throws it on the fish tank, which I love that scene. But the way Brian De Palma films his film, it made him look, made Ethan Hunt look like he was a bad guy. The way the camera was all slain. and just maybe whatever they did do was makeup to make him look evil and tired. I mean, yeah, it's like you didn't even trust him. Maybe he was behind it all. I mean, other than that, I love it.
Starting point is 00:32:04 And I love the evil henchman of Max, her and her crew. She just, like, a regular lady, you wouldn't even think twice about her. But you always got to get guys with long hair and trench coats to be bad guys. They played the part. I loved her little henchman that she had. But again, overall, this film is amazing. We got to talk about the vault scene. We did kind of for a second, but that was,
Starting point is 00:32:33 that, I mean, I love that scene. I mean, for what they had to do to get in there, pretend they were firemen, and there was something going on, to get that far to figure out, or basically know the whole layout before they go in there. I mean, obviously that's what Bing Rames and his character was, to figure out what all that stuff was.
Starting point is 00:32:55 I thought that was cool. And if this secret knock list is what the whole story was about. The knock list is a list of secret agents with the real names and their undercover names that they go by. It's supposedly supposed to be out in the open. And that's how they were trying to figure out who the mole was. but the real one was in, was it Langley?
Starting point is 00:33:23 Is that where they kept it in that safe? Yeah. The giant vault where they, it looked very, 2001 Space Odyssey, kind of looking at a vault on the inside. Yeah, it did. But what,
Starting point is 00:33:40 what did that one guy, one worker do on that computer? You know what? It kind of felt like, like he had no place being there because if that's where the list is there, what is he, I don't know if he's adding to the list or what or making updates because it just kind of seemed like he was just there to be there, which, you know, I'm glad he was there because I liked how they, they kind of did the whole thing where they made him, where they drugged him and they
Starting point is 00:34:12 had him throwing up in the other room while they, you know, went about the mission. But other than that, It just kind of, I really didn't understand what his job was because he definitely was not security because he wasn't taking down anybody. He was CIA analysis William Donlow. I don't know what that job entitles, but that's, I'm just looking at IMDB. That's what is the man in the chair. Yeah. The other thing, I mean, that still makes me laugh, I probably never noticed it. before, but as time goes on here in 2020, nobody has those big giant computers anymore.
Starting point is 00:34:57 I mean, talking about the monitors, the big huge tube monitors. Everything is like paper thin now. And that just made me laugh. I mean, but, I mean, it was still cool. I mean, I have no idea what that CIA analysis does. but I just thought that was an awesome thing. I loved what they did. The temperature couldn't go over a certain degree.
Starting point is 00:35:24 The sound, if you got over a certain sound, mainly when nobody was in there when the door shut. Toast. Yeah, the sensors went off on the floor. And then it had the little laser things where the air conditioner thing was. I mean, that was. that was crazy and how they bypassed all of that.
Starting point is 00:35:49 I mean, especially for something that it's supposed to be like high security and impossible to break into it always fascinates me when rodents get in these things.
Starting point is 00:36:02 There's been other movies where stuff like this happens and there's bugs and mice or rats or whatever rolling around here. And I never buy the big tough guys
Starting point is 00:36:13 guys is John Reno, the professional. You're basically a killer, hired killer, and all that, but then you get scared of a little rat. It's probably scared of you. He killed this shit out of that rat. I don't know how he did it, but they don't show it, but they show the mouth. I mean, there with a knife hit it.
Starting point is 00:36:38 But I love that. I love that scene. I mean, and I don't know how strong he is, and I don't know how much Tom Cruise weighs, but I don't know how high do you say that ceiling was oh what 50 feet maybe maybe more I don't know if that and to let's just say Tom Cruise is 170 160 maybe I don't know
Starting point is 00:37:10 I mean I don't even think that but even still I mean that's that's a lot of weight to lower down much less pull up and really fast because after he does get the the knock list the copy of it and then that's when he
Starting point is 00:37:29 uh Don Reno sees that that mouse or that rat and then he drops him and he almost hits the floor when they were saying that when Ving Rangs was telling him he's a Luther that's his character that CIA guy was coming back in either he's at the door he's at the vault and he was still like
Starting point is 00:37:48 inches away from the floor. And to pull him up that fast, I was like, I don't know. I think they ought to got caught. But I did love the, I loved that was knife look. And I'm talking about the knife because once
Starting point is 00:38:03 Tom Cruise, Ethan Hunt, gets back to the air duct. John Reno, he grabs his, that little knuckles in the mouth and there's sea and then drops his little knife. I love that that CGI effect of it falling.
Starting point is 00:38:19 Yeah. I'm sorry, go ahead. No, that's all. I was going to say the scene after with the, when he's trying, when John Renaud was trying to figure out which disc is the real one, Tom Cruise was actually doing real sleight of hand with the disc, how he kept making it disappear. That wasn't CGI or nothing. He's actually doing a real slight of hand. I didn't know that. I mean, it was good. I mean, it was It was good for him to try to trick him
Starting point is 00:38:53 Because he did Because what is John Heger, Krieger Whatever He was I mean, he had the real knock list He was Oh, this one
Starting point is 00:39:06 And then started doing the fast hands That was cool I did like that scene But Claire Manuel Barrett Or whatever how you say her name is She's just so a wet mop
Starting point is 00:39:21 in the room. She just cannot act, cannot change her her facial expression for anything. She seemed like she was just bored and she was phoning it in and didn't, like,
Starting point is 00:39:35 I don't want to be here. It looks kind of rough now in 2020. She did look good in 96, but I don't know. I wasn't buying it from her. She just kind of bugged me every time she was on the screen. I'd rather have had the one gal that was in the beginning
Starting point is 00:39:52 they got they got killed when they were chasing who was that guy why did he have the knock list in the beginning when they took it from that that computer
Starting point is 00:40:08 I wasn't quite sure I thought that was a whole decoy situation yeah it was but I can't remember why that guy would have it in his little secret room in uh where were they pro oh yeah they were in prague i know it was a whole set up thing and it just went uh a little south with everything because um that one lady uh she followed that agent she followed uh sarah davies was her name she followed or scott or Kristen Scott Thomas was the actress of her character Sarah.
Starting point is 00:40:49 She did follow him, that one dude that had the list, and then he got shanked, and then she got killed. But going back to when Ethan Hunt and Jim Phelps, John Voight's character, when he was telling him the situation when Tom Cruise was figuring it all out. I don't know how he figured it all out, but I just thought that was awesome how he did, because when he was telling the story, John Voie was telling one story, Ethan Hunt was thinking of what really happened
Starting point is 00:41:20 on why his whole team got wiped out. I thought all that was cool. So you want to get the scores? Yeah. I would give it a 10, but that one little ride at the end on the train just doesn't hold up at all. So I got to give it a 9.
Starting point is 00:41:46 Yeah, I think I'm right there. with you. I'm going to give it a nine. The train scene didn't bother me as much. It's just why they got to do Emilio like that. He couldn't just get crushed by the elevator. They had to have the spikes come down and everything
Starting point is 00:42:01 right into his face, which was we didn't even talk about it. That was brutal. Because you kind of see it for a second. I was just like, damn Emilio. But yeah, as far as spy and espionage,
Starting point is 00:42:17 stuff. I think this was probably had the best representation of out of all the films of that. So I'm going to give it a 9 out of 10. All right. Back to Emilio on the elevator. Why were those spikes there? And did
Starting point is 00:42:34 well, or if you guys haven't seen it, John Voie was behind it all. Did he have those installed? Because I don't think elevators have those spikes or whatever they were. I'm going to assume, yeah, he him installed and he just wanted to brutally kill everybody in different ways so I don't see any other reason why they would be there because when he was telling the story and then when
Starting point is 00:43:01 Ethan Hunt was thinking back you see John Void's character Jim Phelps you did see him flick the switch and those little spike things came down and I was I even to even after this rewatch I was thinking why didn't he just move out of the way or lay flat or something. I don't know because it's just, he had plenty of time to move. And he did and he just looked up and said, oh, hell,
Starting point is 00:43:29 and took it to the face. I think that was the most brutal scene out of all six films. I mean, as far as Gore, because you see that thing go in his face. Mm-hmm. Yeah, we talked about it earlier. There's not a lot of action. According to IMDB,
Starting point is 00:43:46 Ethan Hunt's character doesn't have any shootouts or gun fights? I don't think so. I mean, he held a gun, but he didn't doing it. I think his only weapon other than with those little explosive gum because he used those twice. Once on the fish tank and then at the end in the train in the tunnel, which I love.
Starting point is 00:44:20 loved when he jumped onto the helicopter. And then it was like red light, great light, and then stuck it on the window. Then it looks crappy, but I still love it. I mean, it was in the trailer as well as when that helicopter blows up, like the force just pushed him. And he goes flying onto the back of that train, which I thought was,
Starting point is 00:44:44 I still love it no matter how bad it looks, but it's still super excited. I mean, I think if he would have made that scene now in one of the newer ones, I don't see why they wouldn't sign him off for doing that stunt, being on top of a real train going that fast. Because with these other films, with the stuff that he does, I mean, that was probably nothing. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:45:12 I really loved it. I did like the effects of it once he got on top of the train on how it was just whizzing by and the force of it of going that fast him just flipping down the top and I don't know I mean it didn't look like there was much to grab onto on that smooth surface but I did love a little suction things John
Starting point is 00:45:32 John White had because we did find out right before that action scene at the end that John Boy was behind it all because he his character they thought he was dead and I did love all the the spy gadgets they had especially with the with the glasses that had cameras on.
Starting point is 00:45:51 I was a little iffy on the very first time they showed it because that one lady had the sunglasses on and they were like super duper big. I was like, why are you wearing sunglasses on a party? Because she totally didn't fit that whole thing. You're going to stand out. You're going to wear these big giant sunglasses,
Starting point is 00:46:10 but it was pretty sweet. I did like that, how he stuck those. Because John Boy was ready to kill him. And he goes, hold on a minute. And then he puts on those glasses. I'm not the only one to saw you. This never sat with me either. Right when he puts those glasses on,
Starting point is 00:46:27 Kittredge just happened to be looking at his watch to see that John Boyer was still alive. Or maybe he was waiting the whole time. Or yeah, maybe there's a little alarm that goes off. Hey, someone's using these glasses. All right, let me see what's going on. But I did love that scene. I thought all that.
Starting point is 00:46:47 I love those little, the little gadget watches they had. It just reminds me of Dick Tracy's communicator video screened. Oh, yeah. Overall, I mean, it is an amazing film, and I love it. Probably one of my favorite Brian DePaulma films. He's done a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:47:05 And other than I was surprised that he had took this project on. I mean, he still did a good job. Not all of Brian DePonmo's films are good, but this was definitely one of the better ones, in my opinion. We've got 19 hours and 58 minutes. I'll get Polarvon into your system before then. Right.
Starting point is 00:47:43 Speaking of movies that are not one of the better ones, Mission Impossible 2, which came out four years later in 2000, May 24, 2000, Tom Cruise is back, and also starring with him as Doug Ray Scott, who did this movie instead of taking on a Marvel,
Starting point is 00:48:05 character by the name of Wolverine, which I'm pretty sure he's been kicking himself in the ass ever since. This also stars Stanley Newton, Richard Roxborough, John Poulson, Brendan Gleason, and Bing Rames is returning again as Luther. This time it's directed by John Wu. Agent Located. Good morning, Mr. This is not mission difficult, it's mission impossible.
Starting point is 00:48:33 This summer. I'm bad now. Anything. Having fun. Difficult should be a walk in the park for you. Possible. Palm Cruz. This message will destruct in five seconds.
Starting point is 00:48:52 Mission Impossible 2. Starts tomorrow everywhere. I'm going to start us off with this one. I fucking hate this movie. This movie is, I don't know. It's just over-the-top exaggerated action. there's so many plot holes throughout the story that I had to dig some digging
Starting point is 00:49:15 because there's just stuff that's happening that makes no damn sense and apparently John Wu filmed a three and a half hour movie that the studio told him he needed a cut down to under two hours and this is what we got um Ethan Hunt went from barely using guns
Starting point is 00:49:33 to using any gun he can get his hands on I don't know I just didn't like the action I thought the shit at the end with the doves was stupid I love Thandie Newton but she just again didn't do anything for me just like Claire in the previous movie
Starting point is 00:49:54 I like Ving Rangs coming back but I don't know how did you feel about this movie All right I love John Wu. I mean, I love all his Hong Kong stuff. Better Tomorrow, his killer, hard-boiled, and all that type of stuff. They'll shoot him up, Hong Kong, Chinese stuff.
Starting point is 00:50:21 I love those. I love his slow-motion shots. I love all that. But do you really need to put that much slow-motion in this? every action scene or even non-action scene like when they're just looking at each other she's the tenured walking
Starting point is 00:50:46 and her hair's blown in the way and I was like really it's slow motion waves in the background yeah it just it was just overboard it didn't it doesn't work with his American it didn't work
Starting point is 00:51:02 I didn't like it in face off I really didn't like it in Broken Arrow I thought it went way overboard and broken it hard target yeah but I mean it just I don't know I mean it didn't it didn't do it for me so but with that said again I mean I love I love job who but yeah I'm with you man this is the weakest one out of all six I just thought it was trash I mean I think the only thing that really got me excited was the soundtrack, but just, I don't know, man. I didn't like it. I mean, the story,
Starting point is 00:51:46 it's weird, though. They were going to deal with some kind of a biological disease that was supposed to wipe out the world or something. Yeah, chimera. Yeah, they were just trying to make money. Chimera. I'm not a fan of that band. I know some of you guys are, bad. I'm just an old fart. But, yeah, I didn't...
Starting point is 00:52:11 The story was just weak. I mean, it was just... His bad guy's gonna take it and then hold the world ransom and charge you a million dollars for the cure. And that's how he was gonna make it more. That was just plain and simple.
Starting point is 00:52:26 And it didn't seem like they really went much for the story. It didn't really make you think. You were just all trying to make the quick buck. They did. go for it in this one with the uh the mad the fake masks i mean i thought that cg i thought it looked in in the first one when uh they did it they only did it like twice in the uh in the first film um crew's doing it in the beginning and then uh at the end um but this one it seemed like they did it
Starting point is 00:52:56 every chance they got tom crows come tom cruise did it a few times and so did um Doug Ray. Doug Ray. Doug Ray, Scott. He played Sean Ambrose in this one. They both went back and forth. I'm glad that Doug Ray didn't try to hide his accent.
Starting point is 00:53:20 I love the way he sounds. And he was a good bad guy. Nothing against him. Danny Newton. I'm just not a fan of hers. I mean, she's all right. Was this the only one that auditions for this role? I mean, I know they try to get the flavor of the month, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:53:42 Yeah, apparently she was recommended to Tom Cruise from his then wife, Nicole Kidman, because they filmed a movie together. And that's how she got the role. She got the role before the movie was even really in the process of being filmed. She was precast before then. Yeah. With her unnecessary slow motion scenes, I mean, I just, I don't know, I wasn't, I didn't care what happened to her. She infected herself with chimera.
Starting point is 00:54:20 And I was like, I don't care. If Ethan would have failed with his mission and she ended up dying and spreading it to the world, I wouldn't have cared. Did you, did you buy her as a jewel thief or a catburn? or whatever? No. I bought her as much as what's her name in Wonder Woman? Gail Godot,
Starting point is 00:54:44 as her trying to be a cat burglar or whatever or even what's her name? Dark Night Rises. I love God damn what's her name. Anne Hathaway. Yeah, I love her, but I didn't buy it then.
Starting point is 00:55:02 I didn't buy it in this film. Not a big fan. The synopsis in this one is IMF agent Ethan Hunt is sent to Sydney to find and destroy a genetically modified disease called chimera. Yeah. The bad guys get it and want to hold the world ransom. They get the guy that actually made it, Boris the Blade. I don't know his real name. Raid.
Starting point is 00:55:31 I don't know. I'm not even going to try with his last name. But he's always, he always plays the Russian dude. in something. I love them as Boris the Blade and snatch. That was an amazing role. But he's the one that made it. Dr. Nick Korovic, right?
Starting point is 00:55:51 He's the one that made it. He realized that what they were trying to do with it. He injected himself to get it out and pretty much get it away from the bad guys because they knew what they were going to do with it. But then he ends up getting fooled. by Sean Ambrose. That's when he pulled the fake mask of Ethan Hunt and all that.
Starting point is 00:56:15 Yeah, I just, I don't know. I didn't really buy what was happening. And the mission wasn't that impossible. I mean, he was just trying to be, he wasn't trying to figure out who was doing it and why. It was just like, okay, I know who the bad guy is. He was a former IMF agent. and he went bad and okay.
Starting point is 00:56:41 I mean, that was all established in the first few minutes of the film. Yeah, they took all the spy and espionage stuff out of it and just made it try to make it a big giant action extravaganza. All right. Enough with all the nitpicking the action. What did you think of the shootouts, the beginning scene?
Starting point is 00:57:07 with Ethan crawling on the rocks. We could start there. What did you think of that? Would you do that? I wouldn't even be standing at the top looking over the cliff. I'll tell you that right now. As far as watching the scene, I remember seeing this in the theater and that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:57:28 Like we talked about it on a past episode with cliffhanger, that kind of stuff, it scares me because I don't understand why anybody would do it. You know, if you do it, that, you know, go ahead. That's your thing. But stuff like that is just crazy to me. And it, again, you know, I wouldn't put it past Tom Cruise. I don't know if he actually was doing this without a rope or how high he was. But it looked crazy. For more to understand, he did do it all. It looked like he was just free soloing it, but there had to been some kind of wires attached him because there would have been no way the studio would have let him do that and that's just light that's something just light compared to what these other
Starting point is 00:58:19 films bring with his stunts but yeah I'm with you there's no way I don't think I could even stand even if a helicopter dropped me off on the top I there's no way I could stand on the edge even if I was standing in the middle away from the edges it would still freak me out I just I do not like heights. And watching this in the theater, I mean, I was kind of close to the screen, and I was getting dizzy with him, the way they did the camera works.
Starting point is 00:58:48 The slow motion, okay, it worked with this scene, because there was one scene where he did jump from one rock to the other. But to put it in, like, real, real life situations. I mean, I did see Free Solo, and that guy,
Starting point is 00:59:06 it was nuts. And yeah, again, shout out. I mean, shout out to anyone that does this. Yeah, like you said, that's the thing. Hey, go for it. I'm not the one because I would just, I couldn't. Even if someone, if I woke up on top of something like that, I would live there for the rest of my life and die.
Starting point is 00:59:26 No way I would try to climb down because I would die. There'd be no way. So, but I mean, it was cool. I did like that. how it started. They did do the, because he was on vacation, and they found out where he was,
Starting point is 00:59:43 and then they give him his mission. I think, I mean, out of, especially in the first one and in this one, and as well as the other ones, I mean, even going back to the TV show, when he finds out his missions, and they give him the explanation on what their mission's going to do,
Starting point is 01:00:02 and then when that whole message is over, all right, this message was self-destruct. I love all that. Even though it's cheesy it is, is in the first one where the tape just smoked and that was it. Even this one, because they gave them those sunglasses, we're probably a billion dollars.
Starting point is 01:00:20 And then everybody probably bought up those sunglasses after this movie was out. And how are this messes was self-destruck? And he throws them away than it blows up. Was this in 3D? I don't think so. Because it made me think that the way he threw him at the, at the camera. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:39 It had another John Woo's slow motion thing. I don't think any of these were in 3D. But yeah, I thought that scene was cool. I mean, I loved it. I mean, again, I'm not the one. Tom Cruise, he's crazy. Go-getter guy. Go for it.
Starting point is 01:00:56 Do what you got to do. The shootout in the building when they were in the labs. I thought I loved all that. and when he blew a hole in the side of the wall and then ran and dove out I mean even that I even got I do get excited when he gets out of there because once he blew the hole in the wall
Starting point is 01:01:20 and then he just goes running in slow motion and then dives out of this hole when he was diving did he have to do a flip was that necessary or it probably look good in slow motion but no again I mean what if they didn't blow a hole in the wall and luckily they were up that high
Starting point is 01:01:40 pretty much almost at the top floor and uh because he had a parachute on i don't know i'm not the one for those free falling guys that do that off of buildings but i thought that was cool and uh i wasn't excited about the motorcycle shootout action scene at the end i just thought it was stupid Yeah, him jumping off his bike and holding on, like, other than that wouldn't work unless you had, like, maybe tap shoes on or something. Because your foot would have gripped, and then you would have fell and out of been the end of that chase. I didn't like that how he jumped off to the side, held on, gunned it on the bike and was just sliding on his feet. Going that fast and then those shoes, I don't know what kind of shoes they were, but those souls would have been riding skin. But I was kind of really.
Starting point is 01:02:38 And it's stupid and I hated it seeing the first time I saw, but it does make me laugh when Ethan and Sean Ambrose go riding at each other top speed and jump off their bikes and go flying in the air and tackling each other. I was like, oh, my God. That was just ridiculous. Physics wouldn't allow that to happen. But okay. But the fight, once they did the hand-in-hand stuff, I was all right with that.
Starting point is 01:03:12 Yeah, but I kind of feel like we'll find out as we go through these movies. But I kind of feel like this fighting Tom Cruise, I don't think we get this version after this. With the flip kicks and the somersaults and just all kinds of stuff he was doing that. I don't remember really seeing him do this kind of stuff in other movies. the other mission of possible movies. I think that John Wu's movie was probably three hours long because I'm sure it was all shot slow motion.
Starting point is 01:03:44 That would be the only reason why it would be that long. If this is what he put in, I would like to see what he cut out if he cut out an hour's worth of stuff. I mean, okay, it better be good. But I mean, I'll give it to Tom Cruise. Out of all six movies, I like to the long hair.
Starting point is 01:04:03 I mean, I thought it kind of fit his character, especially when he was fighting and jumping off the rocks and the buildings and everything. I mean, long hair flowing in the breeze. I mean, I think that looks sweet. Slow motion. Yeah. Yeah, he shortened his hair after this one. But, I mean, and then at the end, because Tanion did, she injected a South Camara and she was
Starting point is 01:04:29 basically, they were supposed to just let her wander Sydney because they were in Australia and she was supposed to just release it on the world, but she was going to kill herself that she just didn't think she could do it. But I wasn't very excited about that whole situation. But after it was all said and done, they had the cure, which, of course, they did. So you were supposed to inject yourself with whatever the antidote was
Starting point is 01:05:00 within the 20-hour period. if you couldn't pass that 20-hour period because then the antidote wouldn't work. So because they showed what it would do to you, basically killing all your red cells and everything and destroying you from the inside. And it looks like you were bleeding out out of every work. Kind of reminding me of what that virus did in the outbreak.
Starting point is 01:05:27 When they show that scientist that injected him with it, himself with it and how he looked as the hours went by. I don't think it was close to 20 hours. I don't even remember because it just seemed like minutes. I don't know. I was just like, I didn't care if she would have died or released it on the world. All it was said and done and it was over with, they just like, yeah, cool.
Starting point is 01:05:54 Let's go on vacation now. I was just waiting for this movie to end. I've seen it numerous times I only saw it the one time in the theater but I bought the DVD and I have a Blu-ray and I've been finding a reason to watch it I mean I'm a completest I mean this is my least favorite out of all of them
Starting point is 01:06:16 but I have to have all of them in the series I mean same thing with die hard we'll tackle those later on but oh gosh yeah some of those weren't the great but I still have them all. I have the whole series of films.
Starting point is 01:06:35 Overall, yeah, this is definitely the weakest one. And I mentioned the soundtrack earlier. I loved the limbicic song. The limb biscuit song they did in it. I'd rather have the instrumental is good. You hear that in the background. But I was really looking forward to, I disappear. the Metallica song, which I'm sure they could have threw it in somewhere,
Starting point is 01:07:04 but they ended up throwing it during the credits. Was this the first soundtrack they made a song before? I want to say yeah, because Metallica, they were like kind of anti-video, anti-putting their songs anywhere, because that was the young alcohol. I'm that some people like to call themselves. They were just young and angry. But once the money got a hold of them, I think that's when they were, you know what?
Starting point is 01:07:38 I think we can expand. Plus, they were expanding to a wider audience of me because, I mean, I've talked to a friend. He didn't really care for Metallica until he heard that song and saw the video for this film. So then he went back and started listening to the oldest stuff. I do love that song. I mean, I liked it when I first heard it. The video is awesome. What I love is the videos on the Blu-ray as well as the DVD.
Starting point is 01:08:07 But, yeah, I mean, I thought not the whole soundtrack was good, but there was some songs I could have did with that, but majority of the soundtrack was good. The score was good. I loved all that as well as even in the first film. What's his name did the first one? The guy that does all Tim Burton's movies. Oh, Hans Zimmer?
Starting point is 01:08:28 No. He's the singer for Oingo Boingo. Oh. He did Jack Skellington, all the songs in A Nightmare before Christmas. Someone's yelling his name. Somebody is right at the second. Who's his name? I could see him.
Starting point is 01:08:54 Well, you guys know, The Oingo Boingo guy. He did the soundtrack or some of the soundtrack for the first film. But overall, I mean, this movie is garbage. If I got to give it a score, I guess I'll be in the middle. Five. You are generous, my friend. I'm going to give this movie a three.
Starting point is 01:09:17 I probably will never watch this movie again. The slow motion, the story, some of the characters were in it, just pointless. And then I just got to bring it up again. Doug Ray Scott, you passed on Wolverine to do this movie. All right. We got to talk about that then.
Starting point is 01:09:39 See, I didn't know that. I don't know how he is with hiding his accent. I don't know, man. I can't. This is my opinion. I know some of you might not agree with it. I can't see anyone else being Wolverine, other than Hugh Jackman at this point.
Starting point is 01:10:02 I mean, there's obviously going to be somebody that's going to be Wolverine maybe more older, but I mean, he is a good actor. I've seen him in a ton of things, and I do like it when he's in the roles I see him in. But I don't know. I mean, Wolverine, I mean, which Wolverine?
Starting point is 01:10:25 I mean, just from the very first one from the first X-Men movie? Yeah. If he would have played Wolverine, it would have never been Hugh Jackman. Danny Elfman Yeah Sorry, I just popped in my head
Starting point is 01:10:40 Yeah, him I don't know I think at this point I mean maybe you asked me in 96 I said oh man he was stupid But I don't know I mean I think he
Starting point is 01:10:53 I mean It wasn't Hugh Jackman's fault For all the movies he was in I mean that's just what they wrote And he was playing that character Uh Logan I mean that that movie was amazing I loved it. That was the
Starting point is 01:11:07 Wolverine we wanted from the beginning. Not what we got in the first few movies, but I'm glad we got it. And he did say he would he did say that was going to be his last time being Wolverine and he wouldn't do it anymore. But I think after Logan hit so big, he did like, you know what? I think I could do another.
Starting point is 01:11:30 I don't know what they're going to do. I mean, Disney owns it now. So we'll see. what they really need to just throw out new mutants. I'm tired of waiting. I mean, I'm going to watch it at home regardless, but just put it out, damn it. Do you think it's going to happen after the whole Moulin thing?
Starting point is 01:11:49 I think so. I mean, I don't mean, obviously Moulon probably costs way more than to make than New Mutants, but I think it will. I think now that this pandemic is going on longer than everyone was thinking, I was thinking it's going on for years.
Starting point is 01:12:08 Hopefully it doesn't, but I'm just kind of looking at the past and everything. But I think they're going to put it out. I mean, if they're because Bill and Ted was going to hold out, but now they're saying, F it, let's just put it out. It sucks and we're not going to see in the theater,
Starting point is 01:12:29 but I am excited for it. And I think, I think you should. I was all right. I think tenant's going to be. The studio is just going to go over. Christopher Nolan's. Look,
Starting point is 01:12:43 we got to put this out. We got to make something because they don't know. Let's just say, this goes on for years before they get it under control or have a cure for it. The vaccine. I don't know. We're not going to sit on the, especially something like that,
Starting point is 01:13:03 tenant. We're not going to, the studio is not going to sit on. it that long. There's no new mutants. I mean, because they've been sitting on that even way before all this starts. I don't know. I think they're going to, they're going to fuck it up
Starting point is 01:13:16 with Tenant because they plan on releasing it overseas first. I think that's going to kill the box office. Because you already know what's going to happen after that. Well, they they got it under control
Starting point is 01:13:33 out over there. I mean, it's still there, but it's... Well, I'm talking about the movie being pirated after. Oh, yeah. It is. I mean, I'll watch it that way. But I, of course it is. I mean, any of that, anything
Starting point is 01:13:50 that they put out streaming wise, it all, it's on the internet the next day. I mean, I don't condone it, but that's just reality. That's how it goes. Even movies that are already in
Starting point is 01:14:05 theater. They're in a theater that aren't even on some kind of digital thing yet. They find it somewhere. Someone puts it out there and then it's everywhere. So I'll pay for Bill and Ted. I don't know about Milan. I did hear you guys talking about paying the $30 and then it's on your Disney Plus. Yeah. I'm going to, I wanted to see it. My daughter is a big fan. of the animated movie. So $30, I would have spent more than that in tickets, taking my daughter, most likely, you know,
Starting point is 01:14:44 some, a bunch of other kids and spent, who knows, some ungodly amount of money in concessions. So I'm not mad at it. Yeah, I mean, I spent $30 on just myself going to the theater. Of course, this movie would have been in IMAX, and that's what I would have been a juice for. So that's that's 20 bucks right there. And then a drinking popcorn.
Starting point is 01:15:13 That's probably another 15, close to 20. And that's just by myself. So I don't know. I'll talk to the Zsu. We're all in the same account. If we throw in money together, then all right. It only cost me 15 bucks. And we can all watch it.
Starting point is 01:15:33 I don't know. But I'm definitely going to. to shell out that $20 for Bill and Ted's. Because I'm super excited for that. I was going to say, come on the show with us. We're doing the trilogy. Oh, all right. I got my steel book of Bogus Journey on its way.
Starting point is 01:15:53 I think by the time you guys hear this, the sale will still be going. But Shout Factory is having sales on their steel books. So I swooped up a couple. Bogus Journey was one. and then I got a Halloween 3 season of the witch. I have that multiple editions, but I got to have that steel book.
Starting point is 01:16:13 I love the cover, and I love that film. So I get the VHS, the DVD. I got two different versions on Bluer. Well, it's the same movie, but two blue rays of it because I jumped the gun. When it first came out, then they hit us with the regular collector's edition. Now they hit me with a steel book, you bastards. I mean, they always get me.
Starting point is 01:16:37 I'm the sucker. They know I'm coming. All right. As we do at the end of the show, tell the listeners what you got coming. Like I mentioned earlier, we dropped the episode 192 East Society dealing with ESP goes Commando talking about Schwarzenegger's 1985 action shoot-em-up classic Commando. We got a regular episode coming. We just had to put that one out because we were together.
Starting point is 01:17:12 It was kind of a slow week for anything. I mean, I found some new movies that are on Netflix and I watched a couple TV shows, but it's, I don't know. Just starting to thin out. I do want to watch that one show, that one movie you said was no good. It's on Shudder. Oh, Lila Rona. Yeah, that.
Starting point is 01:17:35 I kind of interested, but I mean, I'll take your word for it, so I'm not going to expect much. Well, make sure you have a pillow and a blanket with you because you're going to go too sleep. So, but I didn't even like the one that was in the theater, the conjuring one. But I don't know. We'll see. But yeah, another East Society is coming whenever we sit down. Brother Lance from the horror returns, he came on.
Starting point is 01:18:05 the last MacNest podcast and we talked about his situation dealing with the COVID, him and his wife. And that was good. I'm glad that he came on and got to hear his story on what happened to him. So as far as that, that's all we got. Hopefully Taylor and his crew will come back for more dynamite debris. And another show was in the works. I'm not quite sure yet.
Starting point is 01:18:37 I need to talk to another guy that's interested in joining Skaternet's podcast network dealing with a show. He had ideas. He was trying to ask him me, and I was like, dude, whatever you give me, I'll put out. So I don't know yet. We'll see. As soon as I get more information, then I'll announce what it is. But right now, it's just in the talks. So I don't know.
Starting point is 01:19:03 But other than that, ma'am, I love. coming on here. And you did mention on the horror turns if we're going to do this weekly. I'm for it. I mean, we just got to, I know our work schedules in life getting away. But yeah,
Starting point is 01:19:19 man, I'm definitely going to want to do it every week if we can. Nice. Yeah, we're going to try to get these shows out as much as possible. I know we had a bit of a hiatus there. but, you know, like, like, like, like, says, you know, life happens.
Starting point is 01:19:40 So, but as, as far as the horror returns, uh, by the time you hear this, uh, our Patreon picks episode with, uh, Taylor, you just mentioned them. Uh, we reviewed, uh, what was it, the foreigner, public enemies and Twister. That episode will be out. And what we got coming next is, um, a couple Brian Usenah films.
Starting point is 01:20:05 society, which I brought up to the guys because neither one of them have seen society. So I was like, we got to do that. And we're going to do the dentist starring Corbin Burnson. And we're going to have a guest, Sidney Sinabria. She is the founder of a horror tour guide and women of color and horror. So excited to have her on there. And as far as the action returns, we're going to be going down this Mission Impossible Road. the next episode. We're going to do Mission Impossible
Starting point is 01:20:36 Three and Mission Impossible Ghost Protocol. So you got any last words next? Twister was a 10. The foreigner was a 9 and I have never seen public enemies so I don't know but it sounds like Lance hated it.
Starting point is 01:20:54 Like he hates everything. He was in true form. God damn it, man. In Pet Cemetery. I know we bring it up whenever we can, but God damn, that movie sucked. The remake, everyone, if you guys ever heard. It gets brought up because nobody can figure out why he loved that movie so much. That movie's garbage.
Starting point is 01:21:20 It was trash. I hated it. I wasted $25 to see that because I took my friend out to see it. And I hate that. Oh, I bought the Steelbook. It's sitting on my shelf. just because I'm a completist also, but it's still in the plastic.
Starting point is 01:21:40 I have no need to open it up. I can't. You know what? Well, you're going to have to open it up. Well, no, it's streaming on Hulu, for those of you that haven't seen it. If you were going to sit through it and want to just be mad as well, it's on Hulu.
Starting point is 01:21:54 But I think we're going to have to cover it for Issa's study one days before. I know the Zizu and I did, but he was a little, he wasn't as mad as I don't know I know I know Mike and I did it
Starting point is 01:22:11 we covered ESP at the movies and we both trashed so I think you as well as Mike we're going to have to do another episode in trash that's going to be a very angry podcast yeah and we spoiled it all for you guys on how mad we'll be but I did see it three times
Starting point is 01:22:31 and ah, Maddie. And damn it, brother Lance, I love you, but you're better than that. All right. And until the action returns, everybody stay safe. Wear your mask.

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