The Horror Returns - The Action Returns - Ep. #73: The Terminator (1984)

Episode Date: August 24, 2026

This episode Brian and Nez go up against the ultimate killing machine in the 1984 James Cameron sci-fi/action classic THE TERMINATOR. Disguised as a human, a cyborg assassin known as a Terminator (Arnold Schwarzenegger) travels from 2029 to 1984 to kill Sarah Connor (Linda Hamilton). Sent to protect Sarah is Kyle Reese (Michael Biehn), who divulges the coming of Skynet, an artificial intelligence system that will spark a nuclear holocaust. Sarah is targeted because Skynet knows that her unborn son will lead the fight against them. With the virtually unstoppable Terminator in hot pursuit, she and Kyle attempt to escape.   Join The Action Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776 Follow The Action Returns on IG and X: Instagram: @theactionreturns X: @action_returns Check out everything Horror Returns at: https://thehorrorreturns.com Join The Horror Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns Join the THR Presents: Stream Fiends Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/3860579827402429 Follow THR Stream Fiends on IG: @thrstreamfiends Hit up E Society on Facebook. https://www.facebook.com/ESocietyPodcast/ ESP Podbean feed: https://macnezpodcast.podbean.com ESP Spotify feed: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc Mac Nez Podcast on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/7jot3LglMA0EuGTUikXejq?si=21b39da4784e4528 E Society YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A E Society and Mac-Nez t-shirts Tee Public: http://tee.pub/lic/9ko9r4p5uvE X: E Society Podcast: https://x.com/esocietypod The Zissiou: https://x.com/TheoZissou Instagram: E Society: https://www.instagram.com/esocietypod/ Mac Nez Podcast: https://www.instagram.com/macnez/ The Zissiou: https://www.instagram.com/thezissou/ TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@esocietypod  

Well, let's go back to one other things. Look, you have heard enough. I have answered your question. Now I have to see Sarah Connor. I'm afraid that's not up to me. Why am I talking to you? Because I... Who is an authority here?

Shut up! You still don't get it, do you? He'll find her. That's what he does. I need some passion tonight. Welcome back to another episode of the action return. I'm your host Brian, with me as always is my brother Ned. What's up, man?

Yo, what is up? everybody we've been gone a while but a lot's been happening with the shows and personal stuff as well for those you that all know but oh man yeah it's been a while it's been a minute what was the last one we did I don't even remember uh soldier boys oh wasn't that last year yeah all right we won't we won't take a year hiatus everyone but uh let everyone know what we're doing tonight here to do 1984's The Terminator.

The Perceived The Confrontation Arnold Schwarzenegger is the Terminator Ritted on. Now playing at a theater near you. Disguised as a human, a cyborg assassin

known as a Terminator travels from 2009 to 1984 to kill Sarah Conner sent to protect Sarah as Kyle Reese who divulges the coming of SkyNet

an artificial intelligence system that will spark nuclear Holocaust. Sarah is a target because she because SkyNet knows that her unborn son will lead to fight against them with virtually

unstoppable Terminator in pursuit she and Kyle attempt to escape. Just come on. Let's see. I and D.B. Okay. A cyborg assassin

from the future attempts to find and kill a young woman who is destined to give birth to a warrior that will lead a resistance to save humankind from extinction. This is directed by James Cameron.

And stars. Arnold Schwarzenegger, Linda Hamilton, Michael Bean, Paul Winfield, Lance Henriksen, Rick Rostitch, Bess Motte, Earl Bowen, Dick Miller, and a bunch of other people. Nez, when was the first time you watched The Terminator? I saw this back in 84 the weekend it came out, which was, where is it came out, October 26th, so probably the 27th Saturday. I didn't even know what this was. My brother and I, we went to go see something else that was playing at the upstairs theater. and then when that was done

he was like let's go see the Terminator I was like what's that he was I don't know like Conan's in it okay so we went and we sat down and watched it we came in it was already going we came in when Kyle Reese was running around

in that little department store when he got those fresh ass there were Nikes I don't know what they were called but everybody called them the Terminators just because of this movie they were black with silver and they had like a silver

silver strap I'm right off the rack yeah so yeah that was the first time we had seen it and when it was over we were like damn that was hell of good let's watch it again but we had to sit through another movie which I don't remember

probably another action film just to see to watch the Terminator again and these were the days when they didn't kick you out of the theater you could sit in there all day watch movies over and over and over and over again so but when was the first time you've seen this uh this was a VHS rental for me my dad showed me it because I was a big Arnold fan so whenever I was probably I had to been like maybe 10 11 years old and loved it ever since because in a sense it's it's not just an action sci-fi film it's also kind

a horror film because the way Arnold's Terminator character is coming at Linda Hamilton is like a like a slasher character like a psycho killer the way he's stalking out these females out of the phone book and I always like that aspect of it what I liked about it is was like he was the bad guy and then of course as the series went on he became the good guy but I mean it was at that time Arnold only had like a handful of like starring roles. Conan was big and I would say was this after Conan I mean his like um opened it up right yeah uh yeah trying to see this was after both conan movies after the destroyer yeah he did Conan he did the conan he did the

barbarian in 1982 and the destroyer right before this one okay and red sonya right after so this was right in between those when is the destroyer come out because i saw that one uh it was a double feature with uh star trick three a star shrieuer that was in 29 1984 okay so this was this came out uh right before the summer i guess it was in time for the summer summer movies have we done any of those no we need to there's only two so but and that uh jason momoa one but uh i have it somewhere in this collection i seen it once but i don't i don't remember it or rod perlman was his father yeah Oh man, but this one, again, this is back when the posters had the big paragraphs on them.

They don't do that anymore. But in the year of Darkness, 2029, which is only in a few years, the rulers of this planet devised the ultimate plan. They would reshape the future by changing the past. The plan required something that felt no pity, no pain, no fear, something unstoppable. something unstoppable they created the terminator i did not know who james cameron was at this point um i'm pretty sure i had seen piranha too already but uh i didn't know who he was so after this it was like all right i mean let me keep an eye on this director and of course we had some other t-2 and abyss and all that other stuff and Titanic when he was king of the world and the avatians right after this

yeah that was one of the main things we we had went and seen because of him figured he'd do a good job with this oh this also stars the late and great uh bill paxton rest in peace um but yeah man i just i just love this movie because i remember when we got home we told my dad about it because my daddy like the the con movies and uh sunday he goes hey let's go see terminator so we went and watched it again so it's by that time i'd seen it three times so but oh man i i love this movie i just i watch it whenever it's one of those movies if it's on i don't care what part it's on i'll just turn it on and just sit there and watch it or from cleaning house or just doing whatever poking around on my

phone which i pretty much did while i was watching i only watched It's the, uh, the exciting parts. But of course, this had the whole slew of films afterwards. Um, I, I enjoyed all of them. But, uh, I, I don't know. I mean, salvation, that one was okay. Yeah, it's okay. Dark fate.

That one was, it was cool. I like Genesis more. But, uh, I mean, this. universe was was bouncing all over the place I did like how the first three at least went in some kind of order they didn't they weren't they weren't jumping around and with time travel well there's time travel in all of them but they weren't like in Genesis they went back to 1984 and got all that and we had the the mother of dragons she was Sarah Connor and that one but then when they did uh dark fate That when they killed John Connor? Yeah. When Edward Furlong. The CGI version.

Yeah. I mean, that was cool. I did meet the guy that was the bad Terminator, the, uh, the, uh, ghost writer. Uh, I guess it was he Mexican or? Yeah. Him. He was cool. He was walking down the street at, it was, uh, they were hyping up dark fate at Comic Con.

And he was just walking. up the street with his mom and I don't think anybody knew who he was yet I know he had been in other things but he was just strolling down the street going back to his hotel and I saw him and he was talking to somebody and then his mom was standing there and she goes you do you know who he is and I was like yeah that's the guy and the new Terminator and he goes yeah that's my son I was like oh that's cool I said is he cool to get a picture with his yeah yeah sure so when he was done talking with whoever um she was like come i i can't even remember his name she was like come here come here this guy he knows who you are

oh really he goes were you in the panel i said no but i knew who you were abria luna yeah i said i know who you were or who you are and i said i can't wait to see the new movie he's all right man it's really cool so she goes here let me take your picture she took my phone and took a picture of us so that was really cool. Oh, I met, uh, what was his name? The, the psychiatrist dude, uh, Earl Bowen. He played a Silberman, Dr. Silverman. I met him.

He, I was, uh, putting, taking out the trash and, uh, out of the back of the airplane. And I opened up the door and he was standing there. Um, I remembered him from that TV show Mama's family. for those of you to watch that show. And he was standing and went, hey, how are you doing? And I went, oh, man, I loved you in Mama's family. I mean, I knew he was in Terminator, but Mama's family was the first thing that came to my head. So he just kind of laughed.

Oh, right, all cool. As well as I met Bill Paxton, rest in peace. I met him at Comic Con. He was so fucking cool. He was in our hotel at the Hard Rock. And he was down in the lobby. He was just walking around with his daughter. And I said, excuse me, Mr. Paxton?

Is it cool? if I get a picture he's like yeah yeah sure so I got a picture with him he was he was he was hell of cool but yeah I've seen this movie a billion times but I was gonna say something else I can't remember I mean but at this time I mean we didn't we didn't know there was gonna be all of these other Terminator movies I mean before the internet and all that or if the internet was there, I didn't have it. When we found out about Terminator 2,

I was like, oh, cool. So I was wondering how that one was going to go. And then, oh, okay. I mean, I like this one. Out of all the Terminator movies, this is probably one of my favorite just because of what it was on kicking off the whole series. Ryan Pictures, are they still around?

yeah they're still around I haven't seen that logo a long time they're putting out like smaller stuff but they're still kicking but this was in the before the CGI I mean the CGI in Terminator 2

you watch that now and it looks I mean when it came out and it was like oh man this is amazing but you watch it now same thing with the abyss it's not the greatest but I mean it was still awesome all right man

I love this because it was all pretty much practical with the models and the stop animation towards the end when the Terminator was chasing Sarah Connor but I always loved the beginning and in the 80s

nuclear war was the big scary thing I mean Russia was the bad guys back then every movie that came out our heroes were fighting Russians from Rambo to whoever else and the Vietnam movies

were big especially with Chuck Norse rest in peace but I always loved the beginning of this because it was really cool with the models and the the HKs the Hunter Killer Ships and the tanks they had and all these little freedom fighters I remember when I first saw this I was like oh man I want to see that movie and then years and years later we get Terminator Salvation, which... It was a movie. Yeah, it was okay, but it wasn't like how the future was presented to us in this.

Yeah, no offense to what's his name, Sam Worthington, but that was when they were trying to push him as a leading man. Yeah, that wasn't. I mean, what's his name is John Connor, Batman? man. It's not the movie. It's not the movie. He was yelling at somebody.

Yeah, I don't remember what for, but if you guys don't remember that, go to YouTube and look up Christian Bale, losing it on set. I don't know. It sounds like somebody wasn't paying attention or doing their job right,

and he just lost it. I think I could be wrong, but I think they were filming a scene and somebody was on their phone walking through the scene or walking by the scene, talking. and he just blew the fuck up.

Yeah. That was Mick G. I remember he's on the director, Dan. He's one that brought us, was it Charlie's Angels? The first remake, the one with Jew Barrymore and Cameron Diaz and Lucy Lou.

Did he do the babysitter? Did he do that one? It was Samara weaving. I think he did that one. I seen it once. I don't even remember it. But did you see that other Charlie's Angels, the one with

what's her name from Twilight? No, I skipped that one. I kind of wanted to see it, but I just never got to it. Maybe I'll search for it. Yeah, I mean, we see the HKs driving, flying around, and the cool-ass tank things with the guns shooting out. had everybody rolling over all the skulls and everything.

I mean, that was cool. I liked that, but I was thinking they must have just had piles of bodies they just threw on the ground in order to have all these skulls that these tanks were driving over. But, of course, in the very beginning, they had this big huge paragraph. The machines rose from the ashes of the nuclear fire. Their war to exterminate mankind had raged for decades, but the final battle would not be fought in the future, it would be fought here in our present tonight. That was sweet, because I don't think we ever got any text we had to read.

And, of course, in Terminator 2, we had Sarah Connor talking about Judgment Day and all that type of stuff. So, I know she, well, movie-wise, didn't they say she died in the third one? Yeah. from something leukemia or whatever because then uh was it nick stall was that his name yeah the the guy from sin city the yellow bastard yeah him the main kid from bully if you guys have seen that movie i would like to do that but that was kind of rough that was a rough movie did you see that one yeah i've seen that one i picked up the blu-ray from whoever put it out i don't remember I haven't watched it recently, but it's a rough movie.

One of Larry Clark's movies for those guys that know who he is. But I was always a fan of the score, especially the main Terminator theme. I thought that was really cool. And they use it in pretty much all of the films. So I thought that was pretty sweet. But, I mean, how this one begins is just basically we see this gentleman. He an All-Star. He's like in a million movies.

What the hell is this gentleman's name? He was the trash guy. Dick Miller. Is that his name? No, no, no, no. That's the guy in the gun store. He's a black gentleman. He was, I remember he was in a lot of those 70s films,

and he was 16 canals. No, not 16 candles. science no yeah weird science he was uh one of one of the guys in the in the bar but anyway he's uh the trash man in this i don't even see his name here wait is this him yeah that's it this is name chino fats williams rest in peace he passed back in uh 2000 but this guy is like one of that guy he's been in like a ton of things but yeah because he's he said he's sitting there and then we're getting all this uh electricity and then all of a sudden this big flash and we don't see anything what i really loved has what they did in terminator two we we still don't

see how the terminator show up we don't see that until terminator three rise of the machines when we see the actual orb that the uh the people uh come back and travel and time in but this one was pretty sweet i did like how i mean we we get arnold and all his glow in L.A. What? The something time displacement thing. I can't remember what they called it, but.

And then we get the great Bill Paxton, being a punk rocker. And isn't this the dude from Cobra, the killer? The guy with the with the jaw. Yeah, him. Yeah.

He's another guy that's been in hell of movies. I liked him in three amigos. if you guys remember that film you got two guys that are well known and you don't even know who the other dude is the guy that actually was wearing Arnold's Terminator gear

I got a little it's just a little gripe for those of you that have seen this movie a million times when we see Arnold right here in the very beginning his hair is just normal

of course when he jumps through the fires when it it singes them and it gets all spiked up just a nitpick it's like these terminators were ruling off the assembly line because we get another a CGI Arnold in salvation

and of course we get him in Terminator 2 and so on and so forth did they like redesigned his hair when he came back in Terminator 2 because he already had the spike wiki hair.

And in this one, the original, was it Cyberdine Systems model 101, he's got just regular styled hair. And I was that always, that didn't rub me right after watching,

after seeing all the other films. Yeah. But I like how he just rolls up on these guys and give me your clothes. And then they're like, fuck you asshole. And then they try to shank, come with their knives. Well, one of them did. But he grabs the dude

from the slasher from Cobra. He's the pulls his spine out or whatever. And then, because Bill Paxson looks like he just I guess he may be broke his nose. I don't know, but he just kind of, he just hit him and he fell back.

And the other dude, assume we killed him. Because he gave up his clothes. And then we were introduced to Kyle Reese. This was really cool. Of course, they don't really, they don't show how they get there. I mean, they just show the electricity.

And then all of a sudden we see Kyle Reese just fall out of the sky and and douche. And he looks like he's already been through some battle damage, which we do see later in the film, because he's got scars all over him, and this looked like it hurt. But they did say it did hurt

when they were traveling. I can't remember which movie it was when they were saying that. I think it was Genesis. Is that the one? on. Oh, that's right. It was Captain Boomerang. Yeah, that's right. But this one, I mean, it's cool. I mean, Kyle shows up and he doesn't know what's going on and he ends up to

snake in these pants from some hobo. It's just chilling in the alley. Of course, there was a bunch of, I mean, now with the internet and memes, I remember seeing a meme of him of Kyle, Kyle, Kyle Reese. standing there and it's like he goes remember he was he was free balling it in some hobo's pants the entire film

because we never see him grab underwear so but and in these days as well man I mean I guess locks were quick and easy to just bust open and go into department stores

but I think this I think it was like a goodwill type of store but I was like, okay, they have whole shoe racks of the new Nike's. Because at that time, these ones just came out. And they, I don't care what anyone says. Those, that shoe style flew off the shells because of this movie. I kept trying to get my mom to get me some, but she said, you don't need those.

And I'm sure they're not as expensive as Nike. today but I mean every now and then I see them somewhere somebody selling selling a pair but they want some crazy amount of money and they I don't know what they were called but they people call them the Terminators but before all that I mean when Kyle runs up on the the cop because when he's a putting his pants on some cops roll up and then they start chasing him then he kind of rough houses him a little it and takes his gun but then he wants to know uh what's the date and a guy just starts telling and then he goes what year and he goes what so Kyle he just kind of realizes maybe this is it but they're not really

sure but I mean they knew the they knew the year because they were saying that um later on when he's talking about they weren't really sure where she was but they knew the date and year of where they could find her that's what what he tells the cops later on. But yeah, when he goes running through this department store, he just grabs his jacket and the shirt and grabs those pair of shoes, no socks. And I don't care what you guys say. If you guys run around with no socks on, I'll give it to you.

Because when I run around with no socks and my shoes on, I get blisters. And this guy was doing plenty of running. And after he gets out of there, but really quick again with the shoe scene. He's hiding in the, I guess, a dressing room. But when his foot comes down and he has those knikes on and he, he tightens the strap. The first time I saw that, I came in right during this part when he was basically busted into the store. But me and my brother ran and kind of found a seat and sat down.

And then right when he put those shoes down, everybody, this was a, this is a hood theater. So plenty of talking to the screen. smoking, drinking, all that went on in our local theater. Can't do that today. But when those shoes came down, everybody was going, whoo! Like just look at those shoes! And I'm sure everybody ran to the shoes store to buy these,

but my mom said, nope. Did you ever have a pair of these shoes? No, I'm actually looking at for them right now. I mean, no, you know how much they are. But of course, these are the days, cops didn't lock their guns or their doors in the police cars because he just slides right up and grabs that shotgun and it just runs out into the

the downtown streets of L.A. These are called the Nike Vandal High. What are they going for? I looked them up. 183? Oh, those aren't the ones. Hmm. This person is selling one for $2,000.

You can forget that. Oh, here they are. I don't know. These are the ones that they say from Genesis, the movie. Not screen used, but... 1600. The fuck out of here. All right, this guy's got...

This guy's... This kind of looks like them. How much is this full song for? Hmm. Sorry, everyone. $950. Hell no. But, all right. For you, uh, shoeheads.

I mean, I'm sure you guys already have a pair, but. No, I can't do it. I can't justify dropping that much. Yeah, I'm looking. The ones that look like the ones from the movie are fucking ridiculous. The most I see on this is 2000. Hell no. But back in those.

days in 1984 they were maybe 40 at the highest maybe people don't believe me when the the Jordan ones came out when they were the the red the red and black and the the blue and black ones

I got those for those you to remember Copeland sports off the rack two pairs two pairs of Jordan ones red and black blue and black 20 bucks for two pairs. People don't believe me, but for you old schoolers that do remember that, man, it was,

ah, 80s were the best. And what did I do? I just skated those things and tore them to hell. Now they're worth a crazy amount of money. Anyway, that's enough for the shoe returns. But if I had that kind of money just to blow money falling out of ass, hey, if Nike's listening, you guys, you want to send Brian and I a pair of these, we'll take them. And we'll wear them.

What movie shoe would you want the most? These. I've had this conversation before. I was always a fan of it. I always wanted them. I mean, I wanted them back in 84, but my mom said no. And people always bring up the... Back to the Future.

Yeah, the Back to Future two ones. Those Nikes. Those look cool, but I'm... I've seen them. I've seen them before. I've seen the real ones and not the screen-used ones, but the real ones and the knock-off ones. I was at New York Comic-Con one year,

and I guess it was an anniversary for the second one because they were, I tried to get one. They were selling the futuristic Pepsi and the bottles that I had when he went into, was it Club 80s or whatever that? Pepsi Perfect. Yeah, oh, fuck, I wanted that, man. it sold out hell fast

but these yeah I mean I'm thinking of shoes and not just because we're watching this movie but I would want these what would you want? I'm trying to figure with neither these

I kind of always one of the alien stompers oh those Reebok ones yeah I know last year or neither last year of the year before Rebock was selling them for the anniversary

for Alien Day. Let me see. Okay. They were the Reebok BB 4,000. No, no, these are the ones from Romulus. What are the ones from aliens? Because I remember when we're seeing Romulus

and they had them, I was like, oh, those are cool. Hmm. I assume these. High top ones? Yeah, they're like super high top. Yeah, the Reebok stompers. Hmm. Did they make them just for Alien?

Because I don't know back then, but I know when they re-released them, it was for the anniversary. Hmm. Because I don't remember ever seeing them, like, in the stores or... Hmm. Yeah, those are a little too high. As in high tops, that's... I'd wear those ones from Romulus. I did like those.

Those ones were cool. I guess eventually we'll tackle the Alien series. Alien Earth, man, I figured they would have been hyping up the second season at Comic-Con. I didn't see nothing down there for it. They've been nothing up at Comic-Con. Yeah, dude, seriously, man.

They... One of the big movies other than Doomsday and Space Balls 2 I don't remember really well I guess whatever that new avatar not Avatar James Cameron's avatar that the animated movie

yeah I guess they were they hyped that up I don't really remember anything else I thought they would do something about the new Carrie series but they had like a small little panel that was it they did I went to that

um friend of mine I was looking for her. She goes, I'm in the carry panel and ballroom 20, so I went up there and I just walked right in. And I sat through all that. That was really cool.

I mean, it looks cool. I mean, but how many times do we need to remake a carry? But the only reason I'm watching it is because of Amber Midthunder. She was in it. Yeah, they said they're going more deeper into the book.

Yeah, that's what they're saying. I heard the destruction is going to not just be the school, it's going to be the town, too. because Mike Flanagan I mean for those of you that ride his nuts I mean he's good but I don't ride and die

for him I mean I'll just wait until I see the series but that was kind of the main reason I was in there because Amber Middunters in it so but when they when it was over when everyone's leaving the panel they gave out these

small little carry posters with whoever carry is I got one And I was If you guys Listen to Horror Returns already I went to that

Film Festival In Oklahoma And Amber Midthunder was there They weren't giving out Amber Midthunder posters They weren't given out

Nothing Well they gave you Pets of paper You can get her autograph But some people Did bring things I brought

My prey 4K So she signed The slip cover And the The actual cover for The 4K

Blu-ray Signed that I had my funco pop of naru i just had the box um i took that and i full i kind of flattened it and then she signed that and i had a poster tube and i pulled out that carry poster and i said is it cool can you can you sign this she was like oh my god you got one i said you didn't get one she went no and then her mom and dad were standing right there she was like this is the posters they gave out of comic con and they were like wow and they go you got that there i was like yeah and then we had this

big old conversation about it. But she was like, oh man, I was willing to give it to her. I said, do you want it? And she's like, oh, no, I can get one. I can get one. I went, okay. So, but she signed it and now I need to get a frame for it and hang it here in the studio. But anyway, back

to Terminator. Enough of the shoes and other things. Have we done Predator? Any of them? I don't think so. I guess we're going to fall down that one, that whole. There's hell of

Predator movies. And the AVP ones. I hear they want to do a third AVP movie. I hope so because the way that second one ended they led off to there was going to be more. Yeah, they said it's going to be nothing like the first two. I don't care. I mean, just

give me more. I thought it was a good idea to throw those. I liked the second one more than the first one. But anyway, but yeah, We're introduced to Linda Hamilton, Sarah Connor. We just kind of see her hauling down the street and her little Honda elite scooter. For those you to remember those.

I think it was an elite. Anyway, she's just doing her thing. She's a waitress and she just goes to work. But then we finally, we get Arnold in all his glory, his little punk rock wear. His little, I think it was an army jacket with just like chains and studs. added to it but he kind of rolls up and uh steals a car and i like how he just bust the window and then he grabs the uh the little thing around the steering wheel just tears it off and starts it up at this point when i was first watching this movie i was like

i didn't know what the terminator was we didn't we didn't know he was a robot i must have never really been paying attention to trailers or tv or anything because i really when we sat down. I didn't even know what this movie was about. So I just knew Arnold was in it. So I was like, alright, cool. So, yeah, we see some more stuff of Sarah working in the

restaurant and everything. So we're just kind of doing some little character development. But then we get the terminary. He rolls into the gun store with the legendary Dick Miller. And in these days,

I well right where I'm at there's gun stores everywhere I assume maybe back in these days they had them everywhere I mean is there gun stores in Alaska oh yeah there's a bunch of them because I'm trying to think if there was gun stores in Oakland I I would I don't remember

now are there gun stores like there were in Commando Oh hell no the secret back room with the rocket launchers and shit. We've done that, haven't we? Yeah. All right. I know me and Theo and I, we did it for East Society. We did a commentary for it.

I don't care what anyone says. I mean, uh, I love this film. Oh, I'm trying to think of my favorite Arnold film. He's done so many. Commando's my favorite.

Yeah, I would say, I would say, Commando, Terminator being second. then Conan. It's got that same music as 48 hours. Yeah. Steel drum music. That movie's just goofy

off the wall, but man, is it good. For those of you that haven't seen Commando, if you haven't seen it in a while, definitely seek it out, I'm sure it's streaming somewhere. But yeah, when Terminator rolls up in there, man, this was the movie where

this was the first time I had seen the the laser sightings. I thought that was really cool. Because after this movie, then it was everywhere. Not as bad as Rick the Pricks pistol in Yeah, bang.

Yeah, Jason lives. That one was huge. That was like a big old giant flashlight. This one was as long as the, as pretty much the whole gun. But, now when you see these little laser sighted, they're super

small. I mean, you can get a pin that does that. But at this time when we see it, I was like, damn, I just thought this was amazing. Never shot a gun with one of these little laser things on it. But I just thought it was sweet,

man, just to see it. I mean, they've used them to death in just about every action, especially after this one. I mean, but when he goes in there and just starts grabbing guns. And I guess back in these days, you can buy Uzi's and your local sporting goods store. Oh, yeah. There was a, well, there's still a store in Reno, Nevada.

It's right on Kittki. I think that's the street. There's a sporting good store when there's guns in there. I was a little kid. I went in to know my cousin. rest in peace heavens we love you we love you when we miss you but I remember seeing

the rifles and everything and there was an M16 with a rocket launcher the attachment on it I don't know if you can walk I mean who knows I haven't been in a gun store in ages but for some little kid

I might have been 12 maybe 1112 just to pick up that M16 with a rocket launcher off the and hold it going, oh, man, this is awesome. But did they sell? I mean, obviously they sold that weapon,

but I was like, did they sell the little, little rocket launcher or the little missiles or what I mean? Stuck in it to the grenades or whatever it was to shoot? I don't know. Ever since, Commando, I always wanted to know, was that ever a thing?

What? You just go down the street. My rockets. going to the secret room. Not just bazookas, those little opened up bazooka ones. The actual that little square one he had that had four rockets. Yeah.

Already loaded in it. I can't beat the 80s, everyone. But this was a little bit no joke, man, because he rolls in there and just the, especially that shotgun, the auto loader. I shot one of those, man. Oh, my God. just shooting the shotgun in general

I don't know I don't I don't like them they hurt my shoulders I'm just I'm that weak everyone but a buddy his his uncle had one the automatic shotguns I said oh dude can I try this he's a yeah sure dude I almost fell down I wasn't ready for that kick

I mean just a regular shotgun kick is enough but an auto shotgun I was like whoa I almost I didn't drop it but I kind of stumbled back that's crazy man i liked how he did this one of course arnold and not as raw as in the terminator two that one with the when he was able to fling it around uh like a gunslinger i thought that was cool the double barrel whatever yeah this was no joke man i mean because after he gets

he he wants all these weapons the uzi the shotgun the 45 with laser sliding He wanted some kind of plasma rifle with a 40-wad range And he goes, I just what you see, pal. And I guess maybe in the 80s, they just leave the ammo, the shells right there on the counter for you. Because he turns around to get the stuff you're supposed to fill out when you buy your firearms. And while he's not looking, Terminator grabs one of the shells for the shotgun and sticks it in there. He goes, oh, you can't do that. And he's like, wrong.

And they just blasts them. All right. Another nitpick. Not the movie or anything is going on. The, this is, I think it's on HBO Max right now. Yeah,

HBO Max, I thought I couldn't remember what I was watching it on. But HBO Max or any of them, the Blu-rays, the 4Ks and all that, they changed the sound of the,

the explosion, the fire when they're shooting the guns they don't it doesn't it didn't sound like because I had seen this movie a billion times in the theater when it came out and then once it hit cable and VHS watched it over and over and over and over so I knew the sound of those guns

but I remember when DVD came out one of the many special auditions of this film the first Terminator I was watching it and I was like I don't like the way they made the gun sound, especially in the later scene when they're in that bar,

a little dance club. His Uzi didn't sound right and everything. I know, it's just me, a nitpick, but if this, for those of you that had only seen the ones that are streaming are on 4K or Blu-ray or whatever, you don't know what I'm talking about.

They also did that to Scarface, which I do not like. I did not like the gun blasts at the end in that one. But again, just a pick we do scarface i know i did it once but i don't know if you and i covered it i mean lance you need to get on that spreadsheet yeah or write it down we can do a reroute a rewind i don't know i don't remember i love that movie but i don't mind doing it again and i'm sure

our listeners wouldn't care either uh for those you that are new welcome but We got other shows here on the network. But yeah, he rolls out of there. And, uh, man, for, well, he rolls up there's his biker, big old hillbilly gym looking dude on the phone. That's exactly what I said. He's on the phone talking to his girl. I guess his bike broke and, yeah, I don't care what you do. And come down and get me.

And Terminator just walks up behind and grabs them and pulls them off, off the pay phone. For those of you that don't know, back in the days, there was these things called pay phones. They don't have those anymore if you happen to see one somewhere because everyone's got full in their pocket. Yeah, he goes up and there's this thing called the phone book. I don't even know if they have those anymore. But we had everybody's phone numbers that were listed, your house number as well as businesses. And I know we had to go. We had to fan through all that to find pizza places to call them.

Anyway, he, uh, he pulls that guy away from the phone, but I'm like, man, what kind of biker is this guy to not get into, well, I guess Arnold's a big dude. So I guess he didn't want to get into it with him and younger. So, but he does go, man, you got a serious attitude problem. But then he doesn't even do anything. I think he just walks away. But Terminator kind of fans through the phone book and he finds Sarah Connor. Because at this point, they didn't know. Terminators didn't know.

They knew her name. That was it. But they didn't know other than the year and the city she was in. Because in the phone book, there's three different Sarah Conner. So he basically just goes down the list and get all of them. I'm sure that's what, uh, Skynet. Was SkyNet the name of the other than the program, the leader of the? of it all. I think it was the company's name.

No, that was Cyberdine. Yeah. So I think Skynet was the, for those are some of you guys probably yelling at us, but I don't remember. Because they said, yeah, this is when SkyNet took over. So, and then later films. So I assume whoever

Michael Dyson's the one that actually developed the Skynet program. Skynet was the artificial. Neutral Network. Okay. Well, then I assume that's what got smart. Because they did, because Kyle Reese does tell

Sarah Connor that the computers got smart. But yeah, so he rolls up, the Terminator rolls up on the first Sarah Connor, because he just knocks on the door and she's like, yes, and he goes Sarah Connor, and then he just charges in the house and just

pulls out his gun and then pumps all six shots into her. I assume that held six maybe maybe more see I'm watching this right now and another nitpick I did not like the sound of his he's a pistol

it sounded just I don't know again I've seen this movie a million times so I know how it's supposed to sound but anyway back Sarah's Conner's at work and her friends like hey you gotta come see this so she kind of rushes her into the break room and they're watching a news brief a news brief about

Sarah Kana being murdered. Yeah, her friends messed up. Yeah. Hey, you're dead. You're dead, honey. I mean, that would be crazy. Someone with the same name as you. There is another, well, there's plenty of Nez's out there.

I mean, Nez is like Smith in the Navajo Nation. And we're not all related. Who knows? Maybe I am late to some of them, but majority of them. I've met other Nez's. And it's, they have no relation to them. But anyway, we get Kyle, he's kind of just hanging out. He steals a ride, hot wires it and everything.

So I guess back in his day, I mean, well, they, of course, taught you how to fight and kill and shoot and make bombs and everything. They teach you out of hotwire. But he kind of, he has a nightmare of him. It's like a flashback, really. We see the big tanks rolling around, crushing all the skulls and everything, and we see Kyle and whoever his partner is, another female, one of the resistance fighters. I think that's what they call them.

This was like the coolest thing when I was a kid, this whole scene with the lasers and the way they sounded when they were shooting the lasers. Yeah. This is what I wanted for salvation. For those that have seen that, we got, it was way more high-tech than what we'd seen in these, in these dream sequences. You remember the arcade game? Oh, the one with the, with the guns? Yeah.

Yeah. A buddy of mine, shout out to my buddy Gav. We went to the bowling alley, and they had it. And he just had a pocket full of quarters. And we just kept pumping them in there, just, just shooting, shooting. I think it was Terminator, too. I think that was a game. Just shooting and shooting and shooting and shooting.

And we finished it when we got to SkyNet and everything at the end, which was cool. It was fun game to play. They also had an alien. I guess it was aliens because the gun was pretty much the same setup. Big screen and you're holding a gun shooting at the xenomorphs. But it was the pulse rifles. So I thought that was really sweet. And I remember we pumped in elementary until we finished that game.

But anyway, but these, these ones, man, it was cool, yeah, man, because we see the, obviously, it's on a set because a lot of the stuff in the background looks like it's on movie screens. But we do get the model shots and everything of the HK. HKs are those hunter killer things that were flying around. I thought those are really sweet. Yeah, and during the scene, they are a mixture of big giant. screen in the background as well as models and everything so they're running around this futuristic world in 20 2029 AD and they're just trying to fight trying to fight all these these terminators the machines that are coming after them I like how they just jump in that car

that they make and they just start hauling ass or is that no is that during this part I think so because his partner gets killed. She kind of throws a grenade and then I guess she was out there too long because then the sensor on those guns spotter and then they shoot her and then she blows up. So, but it did stop, kind of stop that tank because they blew up one of the little treads.

Oh, this is the part. So that big thing blew up, the big old tank thing and then someone in a car pulls up. Reese jumps into the driver's seat and whoever was driving is man's the gun on the back and they're just hauling ass down, just wasted wherever L.A. they're in. And those HKs are flying after them

and they're just shooting and having a big old battle and then the HKs kind of hit him and then they flip the car over. And Reese is starting to catch on fire, but then he wakes up. And he's just kind of looking around. So I'm sure he's having PTSD flashbacks are killing them or scaring them. I'm sure that would scare you too, everyone.

For those of you guys that have gone through war and everything, I mean, much respect to all of you, men and women that have done that. Oh, then we're introduced to Sarah's roommate. Ginger. Yeah, Ginger. and her boyfriend Matt Matt. Matt's just basically trying to get his dirty talking.

Is he from a top gun? Yeah, he was Slider. And then he was a dumb guy from Roxanne. Yeah, that's what I was going to say. Roxanne. I remember he was in that. Top gun.

I hate that movie, everyone. For those years I don't know. I hate the first one. Maverick was awesome. But speaking of Top Gun and saying, Diego and Comic-Con. Our hotel was right across the street from Kansas City Barbecue Place, where they filmed that scene

in the first Top Gun movie when Goose is in there playing the piano singing Great Balls of Fire. That was shot there. It's a really, really small little barbecue place. I mean, the food's good. I mean, for what it is. I mean, it's cool, but you go there because

there's a big, huge sign outside. Top Gun was filmed here, and there's a top gun thing in the wall and there's pictures from when they were filming there and there's a picture of um miles teller sitting on that by that piano uh that's in the place from he was who is he rooster in the second one i think that was that was the name rooster uh mr fantastic ha that fantastic four i wonder if they're going to bring them into doomsday they better not let that one die

well I guess they could I don't know with the multiverse but uh killmonger was um

Johnny Storm and that one he was adopted I guess I don't know I haven't seen that movie I saw it once when in the theater and I thought it was terrible

but anyway they bring him back they gotta bring Kate Marr back with her wig and that Dr. Doom whoever he was i don't know what the hell that was and galactus was a

like a cloud or something i don't know uh i know the theo wants to rewind that one and i don't know when though hopefully we'll do it before doomsday comes count what the fan forest stick uh i guess or however they spelled it yeah

and we're gonna try to to rewind the first two fantastic four films. Don't you do the Quarman one too. Oh yeah, shit. I mean, don't get me wrong. I did like, what's his name? As Dr. Doom, Victor Von Doom. One guy from

Knip Tuck. Oh, the one that passed away. Yeah, rest of peace. I can't remember his name of Nip Tuck. For those of you to watch that show. Shout out to my boy, Courtney. He told me to watch it. He's good. he's in that movie before he passed away with the surfer oh he's in that yeah is that the one with nicholas cage yeah i haven't seen that when you're off to find it but yeah we see sarah

she's supposed to go on a date but uh some guy stands her up so she's like ah so ginger's mad and ginger's getting all dolled up as well uh matt shows up and sarah's like eh okay whatever i mean sarah was all done up as well but since her date ditched She's like, eff it. I'm going to go to the movies. So she jumps on her scooter and takes off. But then we see Kyle's following her, Reese. At this point still, we don't know who he is and why he's following her.

But then we're introduced to Paul Winfield and the great Lance Henriksen. What was Paul Winfield's name? I think it was Lieutenant Traxler. and that's Henriksen, he was Wukovitch Yeah, how go with that? If they say his name, I don't remember

in it. This is before he was bishop. Right before he was bishop. So they're talking about, yeah, they're trying to get a hold of Sarah Connor and, uh, because they don't, they don't know. The, by this point, the first two Sarah Conner

that were in the on the phone book. But we only see the first one get killed. The second one, we just assume she's dead because we never see that happening. But the cops are still trying to get a hold to Sarah, but they get their answer machine. And for those of you back in the day, they do remember answering machine, especially in this time, in the mid-80s.

That thing was huge. The answering machine looked like a big VCR. And for those you don't know what a VCR is. The VHS tapes. Look it up. You have no idea. For you younger listeners, I don't know. Because my grandsons don't even know what a VHS, VCR.

I have a VCR that works. And they're like, what's this? And I had to show them what it was. And they were like, oh, cool. I said, they don't make these anymore. Well, the tapes. Anyway, so they're still trying to get a hold of Sarah. They can't.

And they kind of come up. You know what? Because the news is there. For some reason, they let them roam the halls of the police station. because there's cameramen and reporters and everything in the police station. But he basically did, uh, lieutenants kind of,

you know what? Let me get these guys to work for me. I'm going to go on the news and, uh, try to get a hold of this last Sarah Connor. So Sarah, she's chilling in a pizza factory and she hears the news story because she hears her name. But then one of the guys that's sitting at the bar,

like, hey, can you change this? She's like, no, don't change it. But then she finds out that two Sarah Connors in L.A. were killed. So now she's, really starting to get scared. So they kind of do mention there's a third one and get a hold of the cops.

So, no, no, no, I'm sorry. That's later. But when she, but they were talking about the, the Sarah O'Connor's that were killed, it was in the same order as they are in the phone book. So she runs over to a phone book

and looks it up as well. And then she sees, she's next on the list. So she's really not sure what's happening. So she kind of leaves the place and when she walks outside she sees Kyle Reese standing there and she's starting to get all creeped out because she knows

that maybe this guy's the one that's after is going to kill her so she's in downtown LA she goes into I guess I don't know if this was just some run-down place that they used and turned into a nightclub or maybe it was a nightclub back tech noir back then in the 80s but they go she goes in there and basically

she wants to use a phone so she goes in there and she kind of super loud dance club everyone's in there having a good time dancing and good old 80s dancing uh and the 80s style everyone i'm sorry i'm a kid of the 80s but did i dress this way no but i love the style and the dancing i know a lot of people what the hell are they listening to for these dance moves they were doing hey man we were just listening to the beat i didn't dance like these guys but uh anyway Lots of hair. Lots of Aquinette back in these days. So she goes over to a pay phone and she calls the cops.

And the music is full blast in there. I don't know how she was able to hear. But there's a, we go back to her apartment and we see that there's a cop sitting out in front of their apartment building. But then he takes off and then we see the Terminator. He rolls up. Matt just finished killing it with Ginger.

That's nice. I didn't like that seed because when they were trying to call him, when the answering machine came on, he was in there crushing it. And I guess she just likes to listen to her Walkman while they were getting down. And back in these days, I know cassette tapes are kind of making somewhat of a comeback. and they're starting to make small

tape players again I mean back these Sony Walkman was like the rage back in the 80s and then all the other people that started making them as well but the one that she has on I remember because my brother had one like this and it was huge

one of the first ones and it was huge it was pretty big it's like the size of a novel one of those big thick novel books like a Stephen King novel. If you guys remember how thick those ones were back in the day. And it had a little strapped. So she's got on, of course, the headphones and everything. So she's in there trying to listen to her music, making a sandwich, and then the Terminator breaks into the house. Matt is laying there recovering, probably gearing up for round two.

But then he just happens to wake up. I assume he just made me sense that someone was there because he just opens. his eye and goes, whoa, and jumps up really quick as a Terminator just slams his fists into the bed. I must just do the pillow. Yeah. But Matt jumps up. He grabs the lamb and goes, don't make me bust you up, man. And then Terminator just grabs Matt and just starts throwing him all over the room. But Matt was no joke, man.

He didn't know he was a robot. He jumps up and he's still trying to fight him. But he's just getting tossed all over the room. He's still fighting. He jumps up, tackles the Terminator. and you figured he'd have been butt naked, but I guess he threw his spankies back on because he's fighting and getting thrown all over the room.

Ginger's still in the other room or in the kitchen making a sandwich, a big ass sandwich and a big old glass of milk. But as she's walking down the hall, Matt comes crashing through the door and he's all bloody. Ginger sees him and she starts to scream. Terminator comes out. This is all slow motion.

He pulls out his gun. She turns to run. and then bop he just pops one in her back and it just shoots her across the room she's crawling uh for her life and he just rolls up on her and just dizz just empties the clip into her back so she's dead just then the phone rings and the answer machine comes on and it's sarah so and she's basically hey can you guys come pick me up i'm down at tech tech noir on pico or whatever the dress She said, and then, so the Terminator hears all this. And then he's like, all right, cool.

So he gets the address and then he hauled ass down there. He finds one of, go ahead. Question. So he thought he killed, when he killed Ginger, he thought he killed Sarah. Yeah, because he didn't know what she looked like. They just knew her name. So what was the plan after he killed Sarah? Because remember after he kills her, he picks up,

like an address book and he just said it's kind of phoning through it then he finds one of uh sarah's i guess driver's license extra driver's licenses no i mean like after he kills sarah what what's what does he do well in does it just goes and lives life in the 80s because i guess that's what he did in um in dark fate because remember when he was pops yeah after he killed John Connor, he just roams around. Because I guess their life cells, their battery cells last a billion years or whatever. And, I mean, they're,

because in this one, they tell them that the Terminators are armor-proof skeleton with flesh and blood organisms or whatever that grows around them. And they did say that he, he's going to get old. So his body, his outer body got old. That's why we had old Arnold in dark fate. So, but yeah, I guess, I mean, I thought that too, especially during this one.

I'm like, well, what if he did kill SeraConnor? Then what? Does he just roam around until his batteries run out? Does he stop terminating? I assume. I mean, his mission is done, because that was their mission for these terminators was to kill. kill her. I mean, of course,

and Terminator 2, we get that. You got to kill John Connor. So, she finally gets a hold of the cops, telling them, look, I'm at this place. Come down here and get me, and they're like,

all right, well, you're in a public place, so just stay there and we'll get there as fast as we can. So she's sitting there listening to this song that's been playing over and over and over the whole time that we're in there.

And then we see Arnold, Terminator, comes walking in into the bar and the lady at the the little desk or whatever she said hey that guy didn't pay so the big old giant buff security guard grabs the Terminator but the Terminator just grabs his hand and just basically crushes every bone in his hand and he falls to the ground so he Terminator knows what she looks like because he saw her ID that he found in the apartment so he's walking around just kind of scanning the room he goes by Sarah but she knocked off her little bottle of water off the table so he doesn't see her.

But she does notice that Reese is in the bar. And I just assume that they don't search you when you go into these dance clubs. They didn't even ID her. No, they just made her pay $450 or whatever it was to get in. I assume Kyle Reese had money. I'm sure he robbed somebody and got some money. He had to pay to get in here. And all right.

this place, this club we used to go to every weekend to see live bands. It was called the Omni and then there was one in San Francisco called the Stone. And then a bunch of the little small Gilman Street and all that type of stuff for you underage under 18, under 21s. But anyway, every time we went into these places

to see shows or whatever, man, they searched us. I mean, hold your hands up. They kind of just give you the pat down. I want to say there was a metal detector at the stone. I'm in one but I don't really remember but anyway, Gilman Street they just patted you down. Same thing like I said to Omni. In this one you just

pay your money and walk in. I mean they got security there, a big buff surfer looking guys so so they didn't well Terminator just rolled in and they weren't going to pat him well they tried to grab him but he broke that guy's hand. So I assume they just

didn't care Reese just paid his his little fun, his fare in walked in and again he's got that salt off shotgun under his trench coat so he's sitting at the bar Terminator starting to scan the room and he finally sees Sarah so he rolls up on her

really quick again I love the style of the 80s for those you old schoolers that do remember a lot of you guys probably know what I'm talking about they had these it was like a hairstyle that a lot of the guys had I never had it because I always had long hair but they called them tails um for those of you that remember that a lot of guys they had short hair but they had the

one little small part in their back on the back of their head and they call it a tail it was just basically like a long strip of hair depending on how cool you were um i remember mike had one his was really short short but his hair was kind of curly so it curled up um the only one that i really remember that i thought was hell of cool was my buddy ellie it. He was an awesome soccer player. He had cool, straight hair. And his tail was hell long, and he dyed it blonde. He had, like, dark brown hair. Anyway, there's a guy in this scene dancing his ass off, and he's got a tail, a little small one, but he's got his little mixing gloves. They're, I guess you would call him bike riding gloves now, but back in the sleeveless shirt on. Yeah.

Yeah, that guy. Back of these days, everybody wore those gloves. I had a pair. I only wore one. I didn't wear two. Shout out to my buddy D. He wore two because when we used to skateboard a lot, he used to think that he fell on his hands,

it would protect him. And especially those gloves back in those, we bought it to flea markets. They were so cheap. One false tear. But anyway, there's guys in there dancing his ass off of those fresh gloves in his in his tail but anyway so terminator kind of just moseys through the crowd walks up on sarah and then

kiles kind of standing off to the other side he flips open his trench coat pulls out his shotgun gives it a pump terminator walks up pulls out his little long slide and just aims it slowly at sarah all this whole scene is in slow motion for those you haven't seen this movie or you haven't seen it a long time but it's it's it's an awesome scene because he just rolls up he's pointing this gun at Sarah she doesn't know what to do she's just shocked and scared and the red beam comes on basically pointing at dead center right between the eyes and then Kyle just starts just blasting him with the shotgun kind of throws him around and he just keeps pumping him into him Terminator goes down and this is when little Niz watching this in the theater was 84 so 13 at the time Sitting there watching this film and any man that got shot with a shotgun blast that close I think he hit him like four times He falls down and then he just his hand starts moving his eyes open up and then he just sits up

And I assume he just left that his little pistol because he we never see it again after this But he's got his little oozy under his arm. He just pulls that out and just starts spraying the place innocent bystanders bartenders are getting hit bar guys that are dropping drinks off rice is behind the the bar and he's just dizz dizz letting off uh shotgun blasts we see sarah she's running out the club terminator just open fires on the crowd hit some innocent people then he's still firing on uh reese and rice is jumping around shooting at him sarah's uh she was running out and uh One of the ladies behind her got hit and fell forward and landed on top of Sarah. So she's trying to push her off.

And the Terminator comes walking up. He loads a new clip, cocks it back. And then before he can fire it, Reese comes out of the shock. And boom, boom, boom, just starts blasting him. Shoots the Terminator all the way out the front window. And he's laying in the streets downtown L.A. He turns to Sarah and he grabs her in that classic line. come with me if you want to live and then we get that over and over and all the other films so she's

looking she sees the terminator or at this time she doesn't know who he is he sees some some stranger that was trying to kill her and she sees him just sit up he gets up she has no idea she's got that what the fuck look and Reese is like come on so he grabs her and they go running out the back the back end of the club out into the alley and they're running down the street and or down the alley and Terminator's like hot on their heels because he comes running out of the back of the club and he's running

and Reese is running just shoving in shells into that shotgun and they're like come on and then this is when we get the cool first person shot of what the Terminator sees and going back to my very first time seeing this film

when I saw this I was like he's a robot and just blew my mind. And I was like, oh, this is sweet. And then, because at this point, we didn't know who he was or where he was coming, where he came from. So we're like, what the fuck? So me and my brother, we were just, just shocked. Reese runs up to his car.

He gets in and Sarah jumps in. He just starts shooting a shotgun. And there's a, I don't know why there's a parked car in an alley. but anyway. So he's pumping a few rounds into the car. He hits the gas tank and it blows up. They jump into their car and before they can go hauling ass down the

back, it's going, they're shooting, they're flying down the back and reverse. The Terminator runs up through the flames, jumps off and then dives onto the hood of the car as it's rolling. And then he just, this part was, oh, I always really love this part. He just pulls his fist back and, bah, punches through the windshield.

and he's grabbing Sarah. How they did this one if you watch the making of it? They said they didn't, James Cameron said they didn't want to use like the breakaway glass because it wouldn't have looked, looked good. He wanted this shot to look real. So what they did,

they had Arnold on the hood, but I guess his arm was off to the side and they had like a, a metal arm that they made. Put the gloves on it and everything and then they put it had the way his sleeve on his jacket looked. Because we see Terminator pull his arm back

and then we see him as he's punching through the windshield. That's Arnold there, but it's that steel arm that they made. So it went right through the windshield so it looked cool. So we get that spider web effect. So they're hauling ass backwards

down the alley, down the alley. and he's grabbing Sarah but then he gets to the end to the street and just slams it and kind of slams into another car Terminator goes flying off off of the car and he's laying in the street another police officer kind of pulls up

and he's calling it in as a hit and run but then we see the Terminator get up now he's still steaming from jumping through the fire his hair is all spiky because it was burned his eyebrows are burnt off. I'm surprised the skin didn't burn, but I don't know. Anyway, so the Terminator gets up.

The cop turns around, sees him, and he's like, hey, and then he just grabs a cop and slams him, slams his head into the car, and then throws him back. So he jumps into the police car and starts hauling ass after Reese and Sarah. So they're just bombing down the streets of downtown

L.A. Sarah's scared. She doesn't know what's going on. She doesn't know who Reese is. So he's basically telling her just fucking listen to me. And she's like, okay, so he's like, all right, so they're still hauling ass

down the road. Terminator's chasing them. And this is when he tells her, he finally tells her who he is. And then he tells her that she's targeted for termination. Sarah doesn't know what the hell he's talking about. So he's kind of like,

it's all right, cool, whatever. And then we see Terminator kind of scanning the, the area driving around looking for the car. But Sarah starts talking to Therese telling her and she goes, I didn't do anything. Well, why is he after me? And then he's like telling her that

that this guy's looking for you. And she's like, well, who is he? How come he can just get up from being shot? And he tells her, he goes, he's not a man. He's a machine. and this student tells him that he's who he is and she's kind of like what and then so they're still hauling ass down

the streets of LA for those you that know that these streets that they're riding on they're really small streets so I mean I guess if you don't know LA so she's telling them that

he basically tells her it's a machine it's a terminator it's a machine she's like a machine like a robot and he's like no not a robot lot. So the cops are finally there and they're chasing Reese as well. So he's hauling ass down the alleyways and everything and he basically tells them like, look, we need to we need to ditch this car and find another one. So they pull into a parking lot or a garage. So he starts to tell her exactly what a Terminator is, basically saying that it's endoskele, a metal bulletproof

endoskeletons surrounded by human flesh living tissue and he's telling her that like look and he goes these are these models are new he said the old ones they were able to tell because the skin look rubber but then there's uh he's like these these are new we i couldn't move in on him until he till he moved up moved on her so he goes

that that's why he was following when when he first said this in this first film I was like oh cool and then of course Terminator 2 we didn't see out of this but salvation when we this was supposedly way before all this

I was hoping we were going to see those terminators because they were saying that the skin was rubber and they were able to spot them I was hoping we were going to see that I have not seen salvation in a long time. When they showed those Terminators, did they look like they were rubber, rubber skin?

No. See, I don't remember. We'll get to that one eventually. Everybody. But that's what I wanted to see. I mean, listening to all this and then as the other movies were coming, I always wanted to see that,

but we never got to see it. unless they did in salvation, I don't remember. But he's basically telling her, he does tell her that, he's telling her, describing what a Terminator is. And she's like, I'm not stupid. And goes, I know they can't make anything like that. And then he starts telling her like, yeah, not yet. And she's like, what?

And she goes, are you telling me he's from the future? And he's like one possible future. And then she goes, oh, and you're from the future. too, right? And he's like, yeah. And then so she's like, okay. So she tries to escape, but he grabs her. And she ends up biting his hand. And he pulls and kind of pushes her away and says, look, Terminators don't feel anything. I do. Don't, don't ever do that again. But she basically bit him because she's got blood in her mouth. But this is when he breaks it down to him. And they're like, look, that Terminator is out there. It'll never stop until you're dead. So you better just stick with me, sweetheart. So she's kind of like, all right.

She asks him, well, can you stop him? And he's like, I don't know. With these weapons, I don't know. So we see Terminator. He's still scanning the area looking around. He doesn't know. We see that the cops are in the parking garage looking around. They find the car that they were in, but nobody's in it.

So they're slowly kind of scanning around, hiding behind cars, trying to find another car. Terminator's driving down the road. He hears over the radio that, They found the car in whatever, whatever address in this parking garage. So he turns around and goes to that address. So Kyle and Sarah, they find another car. So they get into it.

And then he starts talking to her about what's going on. And he basically tells her, because she asks him, why does he want me? And he's telling him, like, look, I mean, the reason he's after you is because we had this guy that taught us how to fight, taught us to rise up from the ashes and fight against the Terminators. And he tells her that his name was John Connor. And she's looking at him and he's like, his name is John Connor, your son, your unborn son.

He's the leader of the resistance. And she's still like, what the hell are you talking about? So they're like, all right, man, you know, so they how why the car, they fire it up. And then the Terminator comes up behind him. And then he just, dude, he's still. start shooting at them. So they're hauling ass in the in the parking garage.

Shotguns are loud for those of you that have never shot one before. Reese is driving, hanging out his shotgun is hanging out the passenger side because he's shooting at the Terminator that's in the police car. Sarah's right there kneel down with her fingers in her ears

and yeah man. It doesn't matter what kind of weapon you shoot man. You shoot one of those things if you don't have hearing protection on you got that loud ass ring in your ear. So they're hauling ass. I assume they're in a big ass catac or something because it's like a big tank. They get out of the parking lot.

They go hauling down the street. Terminator is chasing them. They're having this shoot out. They're down this under these I guess it's a tunnel or under the freeway or whatever.

This street they've used in a billion movies. So anyway so they're still they're driving down the street Terminator shooting at him Reese is shooting back at him it's like a shotgun battle because the Terminator's hanging out of the window

with a shotgun and he's shooting and they're coming up to basically the end the street turns into a T so Sarah pulls in Reese and they slam on the brakes the Terminator doesn't have isn't fast enough but he goes

head first into the into a wall and we see him slam into the windshield the Reese is trying to start the car but it won't but all the cops show up and they're basically hey you and the in the Cadillac so they're like he was getting ready to find him but Sarah's like no they'll kill you so he just they get him out they arrest both of them when they pull Sarah out of the car she turns and looks at the other police car and it's gone I mean Terminator is gone so she's like fuck so

We're at the police station. Sarah finds out the ginger and madder dead. So she's crying. And they're basically telling like, look, this is what's going to happen. You stay here and you're going to be safe. We're still looking for that guy that was chasing you. But then she's basically asking him, well, is Reese crazy? Because he's telling him his story as well.

And this is when we get the psychiatrist, Silverman. He's like, she goes, is Reese crazy? he goes, all right, that's what I'm here for. So we get the Terminator. I assume he just went and got some little cheap hotel or a little hotel room downtown somewhere, some little seedy, seedy part of town. But this part was really sweet

because we see him, he goes in there, he turns on the lights and he's looking in the mirror. His eyes all busted up because he went headfirst into the, either the windshield or the steering wheel. But he pulls out, he puts his arm on his right arm. He puts it onto the table. And he's moving his fingers, but it's not really working good. He rolls a sleeve up.

It looks like he took a shot to the arm because there's a big old, like, hole right there. So he gets an exacto knife and then just starts cutting open his arm. Cool practical effect. Did it look fake? Of course it did. we didn't have CGI back in these days. Not as bad as when he takes his eye out. It looks faking it before, still looks fake now, but damn, it was awesome.

Yeah. But he opens up his arm and then we see, we finally see the robot stuff. Because whatever happened to his arm, his fingers aren't working good. So he's kind of messing with it. We get Reese. He's in the interrogation room. And the psychiatrist is in there talking to him. And Reese is telling him where he's from and who he is.

And they're videotaping him and everything. Sarah, the lieutenant, and whatever Lance Henrickson's name is, Bishop. They're watching through the two-way mirror. So he's telling them who the terminators are, who makes them, whatever year they came from, and they're not even listening. So he's kind of basically telling them, look, man, we're here to save her so we can protect the resistance back the day because they do, he does mention that Sarah is the mother of the unborn savior, John Connor.

so they're just not listening and he's kind of like look because they do they do ask him the psychiatrist guy doctor he asks three he's like well after you do this how are you supposed to get home and he's like I can't he goes this is a one-way trip and he goes once we go no one leaves so and then we go back to the hotel and the terminators fixing himself up looks like he fixed up his arm because he's all bandaged up. But then we see him messing around with his eye. He grabs the Xanctor knife again

and the editing wasn't very good. I noticed this even back when I first saw it. He pulls the exacto knife up to his eye, Arnold, the actor. And there's no blade in it. And I'm like, that's like clear as day you can see there's no blade in it.

Then we get the cool does Stan Winston do all these special effects because he was like king of the 80s. I think so. I just assumed, yeah, I assume it was Stan Winston and his crew. So we see the Terminator. He pulls out his eyeball and he's just cutting around the eye. Basically because he's got to move all that skin because the damage that he took when he hit the windshield.

But it was really cool. He pulls out his eyeball, drops it in the water, and then he pulls it. He gets a paper towel, the hand towel. and starts rubbing his eye, sticks his hand in the hole. And it was awesome. I don't care what anyone says, but damn it looked fake. But again, this is in the all-or-nothing days. No CGI.

None of this, how they, AI and all that, how they do it now. I assume Stan Winston and his crew made this head of Arnold the Terminator. And we see because it looks. looked it again in 84 looked hella fake it still looks fake but it was cool man it served its point and we were all like oh my god that's awesome and we see

the robotic eye of the Terminator so it's really sweet I love this scene and this is when he reaches down and he picks up a pair of gargoyles these badass sunglasses

did I want to want some gargoyles? God damn right I did. Did I ever get any? No. Now I've got to see you. Do they still sell these? Why? Gargoyles, Sun Glasses, Terminator. Uh, it looks like they do.

Um, are these then? Heatwave, whoever. No, these aren't. These aren't them. Hmm. I gotta go to, okay. Well, here's a pair on eBay. Used.

Vintage 1980s, first-gen, Gargoyles, Terminator sunglasses, ProTech, Inc. They do look like they're worn, because they're not the greatest. But whoever this gentleman is, wants $149 for them. All right, this one looks brand new.

See, this guy wants $2904. $5. Again, I did want these sunglasses, and if I had money falling on my ass, I'd drop it on these. Because I remember my friend had a pair. He had like multiple pairs. He had the kind of Terminator wear. Then he had some clear plastic one. He had some red ones, and I think he had the blue ones as well. Poor little rich kid. Well, his mom and dad were divorced, so I guess they had to the bribing with their love buying them expensive things. But man, these these gargoyles, they, they were awesome. Because I just remember going, oh, my God.

And again, everybody in the theater will, woo, man, those are badass. And did we see them everywhere? If you had money, you had a pair of gargoyles. I never did. I mean, yeah, they're going for like between $200 to $900. Yeah, I mean, again, if I had the money falling out, out my asshole. Yeah, I bought it. I remember, I can't remember where, me and my wife, she always thought they were ugly and did not like them at all. I said, she said, why do you want

these? I said, they're badass, man, Terminator. I just need the Nikes to go along with it. Well, Terminator didn't wear those, but, oh man, those are so good. But yeah, man, if people have a pair of those and they're just laying around in a shoe box somewhere send them to us we'll wear them anyway so sarah's back she's watching the the uh the recording of it and she's just scared the uh the cops are kind of into it but the the psychiatrist guy he's just enjoying every minute of it he's just thinking it's funny so she's kind of like all right but she's really scared and And she basically asked is, uh, no, before this is when he starts going off. He goes, he goes, I need to see Sarah Connor.

And he goes, well, wait a minute. He starts talking about other things. And he asks, well, are you going to see? He goes, no, I don't have that, that, whatever, to let you see him. He goes, then why am I talking to you? Then he turns and looks at the camera, which he probably couldn't see because it was behind the glass. And he goes, you still don't get it, do you?

He will find her. That's what he does. that's all he does he's not going to stop until he pulls her fucking heart out and they stop the tape but she does ask him and she goes well is he crazy and he goes he's

a loon so they're like all right so because they ask goes well what happened she's talking about the Terminator and he goes how did he punch through the windshield and they're saying well he was probably on PCP probably just every bone in his hands probably broke and he won't know it for

hours so she's like well all right well him getting shot how did he get up and then they pull out this cavalier vests well he's probably wearing one of these this is this will stop a 12 gauge round so she's like all right so she's tired she goes all right she just wants to sleep so the lieutenant goes all right well here you can come uh lay on my couch in my office and he tells he goes oh we got 50 cops in this building so she's kind of like okay so the the doctor he got out just in time as he's walking out of the lobby, Terminator comes walking in, and he's

got his whole new gear on. Got rid of, well, I'm sure the Army jacket, the little punk jacket he had on was all bloody and full of holes. So he comes rolling in, fresh new shirt, gargoyles. He even fixes his hair before he takes off.

And he's got that badass leather jacket. Do you have a leather jacket? I did when I was younger. It just wasn't my style. I mean, my boy, Dee, he had a few leather jackets. And I love you, Dee. I miss you, man.

But yeah, he thought he was raw in his leather jacket. So anyway, Terminator goes in. He wants to see Sarah Connor. He goes, I'm a friend of Sarah Connors. Can I see her, please? And, nah, she's still in here. And he goes, I just sit over there. So he kind of scans the room, looks around,

and gives you the... the famous I'll be back and after he said it here how many other movies many other times that he he said this

this line they snuck it in there a few movies he said it in Commando because he said it to Bennett I'll be back Bennett he said it in running man

to Richard Dawson killing last action last action hero oh yeah he said it to to Danny turned around. I'll be back. And he goes, ha, never thought,

I bet you didn't know I was going to say that. And Danny goes, you always say that. And he goes, you always say that. And he goes, I do. We haven't done that either, have we? Last Action Hero? Oh, thanks. I love that movie.

I know everyone hated it. My wife saw it. She said, this movie's stupid. I love that movie. I got my Jack Slater action figure somewhere in all my toys. anyway so the cop at the reception office

he's just sitting there filling out paper or whatever and then fucking he looks up and this car comes crashing into the police station Terminator gets out he pulls out

some kind of little automatic machine gun and that auto loader shotgun he rolls in and just starts blasting every

that's in sight, man. He's pumping him up with the machine gun. He's giving him shotgun blasts. All these cops. Nobody knows what's going on. He's just roaming down the hall. Left and right. Boom, boom. Blassing whoever he can see. Sarah kind of wakes up. She's all scared. Lieutenant

comes in here, stay in here, so he locks the door. But this one scene I thought was awesome. Terminator walks up to one of the doors. Boom. Shoot it with a shotgun. Blows it open. And then we see the Terminator vision. There's a cop in there. He's running. He's shooting his pistol at the Terminator. And he holds up, this is all slow motion.

He holds up the machine gun and just, the cop starts to run behind a wall and he just starts firing it and shoots through the wall and hits that cop. So he goes down. This other dude, I don't know why he thought he was raw. Run for cover when you see some guy running down with a shotgun and a machine gun. Yeah. He's dead at her, I don't know, maybe five, six feet away from him.

He's just shooting at him and it's not stopping him. That cop turns to run and then Terminator comes around the corner with a shotgun, boom, shoots him in the back and that guy just does a dive head first into the ground. Terminator walks over to one little power boxes and he just opens it up and tears out one of the cords and sticks it in there and overrides the whole thing. and just all the lights go out. The emergency lights go on. Reese is still in the interrogation room. Handcuffed.

The cop that was in there with him, he tries to run out, but Bish, he's only Bishop in my eyes. Bishop comes running by and goes, hey, watch him. So that cop turns around. Reese jumps up, kicks that cop in the gut, and kind of knocks him out. And then he takes the keys and gets out of the handcuffs.

Sarah is still hiding in that room. She kind of gets under a desk. Terminator is still just destroying everybody that's in his way. And Reese, he's walking around looking for her. Terminator is walking down in the hall. Lieutenant Drexler, whatever his name, he starts shooting M-16 at the back of the Terminator. Terminator turns around.

Boom, boom, boom, pumps in a few rounds into the lieutenant. Bishop comes running out with a, M16 hey and just start shooting at the Terminator Terminator turns around shoots him with a few bullets of the the machine gun then shoots him with the shotgun and he probably just made just turn them

into Swiss cheese so he's still rolling down the hall looking for Sarah Sarah's hiding under a desk she sees somebody at the door and the window breaks open and it's Reese he comes in he's calling for Sarah so she's like he's like come on let's go so he grabs there and they're running out of the hall terminators running around room to room

uh reese jumps into a car outside and they go hauling ass terminator sees them pumps out a few rounds at them and uh hits hits the car but nothing so they're driving down the road and their car breaks down uh so they're they're just going to hide in some little uh sewer shaft or whatever so sarah's kind of cold and she's like um wants to know about the future. She's kind of telling me like, oh, how, tell me about my son. But before all that, she kind of like, she's cold, so he kind of puts his arm around her. And then she kind of hugs him in.

She notices, she goes, you're bleeding. He goes, I caught one back there. So he got shot, but he said he's all right. So she kind of, he starts to tell her why she's fixing him up because they took the first aid kid out of the police car. So she starts, he starts telling her about her son. And he's telling him, like, yeah, he sent me here to find you. The great Sarah Connor.

And she's kind of like, just like, really? Basically telling her that she was this big war hero. And she's the one that trained John. But she's kind of like, she's like, I don't know how to do any of that. You tell me about something that I know nothing about. she starts getting up she goes look you're telling me this and i don't want to know it and i don't want to be uh the savior of the resistance but he he starts telling like look um

i i chose to come here because i wanted to meet you and he goes he made me uh your son made me remember this uh this quote i don't exactly remember what he said but basically you have to survive and if you don't survive, I'll never exist and everything. So she's kind of like, all right, so they sit there and then she kind of falls asleep because he starts telling her

about the future and then we have another flashback of of Reese fighting the HKs and the tanks and everything. But this is when we see where the survivors

of the war. They're kind of underground. He goes around. Oh, excuse me. They see that this is where the freedom fighters are, but there's a lot of the survivors that are down there, like families.

Kids are running around. Mom and dads and everything are in there. And it's... I would not want to survive something like this. If World War III happens, I'd rather just get vaporized

because I would not want to live in a world like this with killer robots trying to hunt you down and you have no food or fresh water or anything watch all those

nuclear war movies in the 80s like the day after or threads they were trying to scare the hell out of us with nuclear war I mean it's still a possibility but it's nah I'm good I'd rather have get killed with the with the blast anyway so he's just kind of rolling around looking

and we're seeing it's just a depressing scene because everyone's just like we see this brother and sister sitting in front of TV and then the camera spins around to the to their view and they're just looking at a little fire they made

in the TV set so he's sitting there and he just kind of take in a break, he pulls out this Polaroid picture of Sarah and he's just looking at it because he says he's seen it and he always just kind of memorized

the picture. But while he's sitting there they have these German shepherds by the front door, they hear him barking because all these other survivors are coming in. They're barking and barking and they use the dogs because they're the

ones that can detect the terminators. So they're barking or barking. And this big ass dude, he's a Terminator. He's got this big futuristic machine gun. He just starts unloading on everybody in there. Kills the dogs.

Kills everybody that's in his way. Is that the only way they made Terminators look back then? Big buff. Bodybuilders. I guess. I don't know why we got a little skinny T-1000. a little teenage-looking one in Sarah Connor Chronicles. The little hot blonde one and the third one.

Oh, yeah. And even the one from Dark Fate, he was tall. Gabriel Luna. Yeah, he was tall, but he wasn't big and buff. And Genesis, it was, wasn't it John Connor? Yeah, they made him into a Terminator. Yeah, I don't remember that movie. But this scene was cool.

I mean, we just see that Terminator. He's just unloading, killing everybody that's in this underground bunker. All the other soldiers that are in there, they're fighting because they're shooting at the Terminator. This one scene looks cool because the Terminator is coming down the hall, just gunning everyone up. I assume maybe he got hit in the face and burn the skin off of his face because when we see the Terminator,

we just see the silhouette of him but we see his red eyes and he's just walking down and just gunning everybody up. Reese falls to a ground. His Polaroid of Sarah falls into this little flames and it melts. But then he wakes up

and they're still in that little sewer shaft. So they kind of, I mean, how ripe does he smell? He's wearing a hobo's pants. Probably just smells like just piss. No spanky,

so he's freeballing it in those things. No socks. His feet probably got blisters all over him. But then he goes walking out. And then we go back to the motel where the Terminator is. And he's scrolling through the little book that he stole from

Sarah. apartment. Since the Terminator cut the skin around his eye, the skin's starting to rot because he's got flies landing on his face and everything. So

this part was hilarious. He's sitting in there and then I assume that the manager of the building is like, hey man, you got like a dead cat in there or something? And then we get the Terminator vision and it gives you all kinds of

possible answers to repeat and it's the first one says yes slash no and then it says or what and it says go away please come back later and then he picks one that says

fuck you asshole so with Arnold's accent I mean it was really strong back in these days when he said fuck you asshole because we see it on the screen. Everyone said,

he said, fuck you ass whore. I was like, wait, what? Well, watching this movie over and over,

you can make out the asshole. So that guy's like, F it. He walks off. But he does find Sarah's mom's address and Big Bear. So he loads up

and then he takes off. Reese and Sarah find a, a little motel side of the road. She's tired. She wants to take a shower. Reese's kind of like,

all right, well, go ahead. And I'm going to go get some supplies. So he takes off. Sarah showers up. And she does the dumb thing and calls her mom. Basically telling her

where she's at. We hear a lady's voice and then we go to a house where we assume there's Sarah's mom and it is. But we see. see the Terminator because we see the door

is busted open, the house is all wrecked, and then we see the Terminator on the phone and he's talking in her mom's voice, her mom's voice. So now he knows where they're at. So she kind of hangs up the phone. I don't know how far

Big Bear is from L.A., but so Reese comes back with all this stuff to make bombs, pipe bombs. I already called plastic. So she's like, all right. So we see the Terminator hauling down the road on his motorcycle.

They're in their motel room making pipe bombs. So he's just talking to her. And she lays down to take a nap. And he's telling her about more stuff about the future. And she just can't sleep. So he's looking out the window. And she starts talking to him. And then he basically tells him like, yeah,

I came across. the future for you because I wanted to meet you and basically confessing his love to her. Maybe she thinks this is going to be her last night on Earth or alive and then she

he kind of gets up and gets a little mad about it and then he walks over and starts shoving the pipe bombs into a bag she walks up on him and they start making out and then next thing you know he's crushing it so and

I guess I can't I don't know how far Big Bear is so he's in there serving it he's hitting it Monday Night Raw in this room so we see Terminator he shows up they're done they're getting ready to leave and then they hear dog barking outside

and we see the Terminator vision he shows up to the motel so they're like oh so he charges into the room and just starts looking around they're not in there Reese and Sarah go out to the front there's some guy getting

in his truck they kind of pull him away from it he they start backing up the car Terminator comes out boom they hit him he goes falling down and then they go hauling ass out of the motel Terminator jumps on his bike he goes hauling ass after him

so they're driving down the road and this is another place that's been used in a ton of films this tunnel so they're hauling ass they kind of switch places Sarah takes over the wheel Reese is starting to light those pipe bombs

and he's throwing them at the Terminator. Terminator is driving down the road. He's blasting his machine gun but he runs out of bullets so he throws that down. He pulls out his little pistol, a little six shooter and he starts shooting at him. Sarah's hauling ass down this tunnel. I don't know how long this tunnel is

but this seemed to go on over and on and on. So Reese is throwing the pipe bombs at the Terminator and he's got these long-ass fuses, but he's kind of letting them go. But when he throws them, they, like, blow up right before in front of the bite. So he's about to, no, the Terminator starts shooting at them with his machine gun. But then he fires it into the back window.

And one of the rounds hits Reese. So he kind of, oh, falls over, he drops the pipe bomb and it blows up. um so they finally get out of the tunnel he's still shooting at him there she's just hauling ass down the road reese is kind of not really knocked out but he's just dazed uh from getting shot but uh terminator rides up alongside of him she kind of sides wipes him and he falls and he he wipes out on his bike he's hauling down the sliding down the road sarah's just jerking the steering wheel every which way boom she hits a curb The truck flips.

No seatbelts on. They're both laying there. We see the Terminator. He's laying there. But then all of a sudden, he kind of gets up, and then he turns and looks, and then boom, the semi hits the Terminator and just runs him over all 18 wheels. He's holding on.

He's just dragging. And he goes under. The truck driver gets out, and he's looking for him. But then the Terminator kind of comes to and then kills him. so she's uh sarah's in the truck trying to wake up uh reese we see that the terminator is injured maybe something banged up his leg because he's limping and dragging his leg he gets into the uh the semi truck and he gets in he he ends up figuring out how to start that up so sarah drags out wreath excuse me and she starts they're running down the down the road they're on

some bridge and we see the truck hauling ass behind him and uh reese must have got a shot of adrenaline or something because he could barely move but he's running down the road terminators chasing after him uh kyle kind of falls down he's telling uh sarah to run uh the truck comes around a corner she's running on the sidewalk truck's up onto the sidewalk and it's a truck with um i assume gas in it big old gas tanker Reese runs up behind the gas tanker lights up one of those pipe bombs and shoves it into one of the little pipes on the truck

and then that whole truck is chasing Sarah down the street but then she runs and then the pipe bomb explodes and blows up the whole gas truck so she runs and dies behind something

the whole thing blows up she thinks everything's all good Reese dove into a a dumpster before it blew up. We see the Terminator. He kind of falls out of the cab of the truck. And he's on fire and he just falls down. And he's like Michael Myers in Halloween, too.

He's just all in flames burning up. So she thinks it's over. She doesn't know what's going on. She walks over. She finds Reese. They're laying there hugging. And then all of a sudden in the background, we see something get up.

and it's the Terminator. Probably just red hot. All the skin was burned off of them. Close everything. Now we just got the endoskeleton of the Terminator. This is the first time we actually see the full Terminator robot.

I like this. Today, it would be CGI. But it was the stop animation type of stuff. And with the mixture of live action or practical robot effects. But we see it. I don't know what, I assume some kind of metal

pressing place, if they got things that smash things. Yeah. Did you know this was a Cyberdine on factory? Oh, was it? Yeah. Oh, okay. So they break into that. And then we see the Terminator, like his leg is heard because he's limping.

And sweet. stop animation of the robot Terminator chasing them. Some people, even my kids, I look so folk and fake and phony. It was good for us in 84. So they're in this big factory. So they start turning on all the machines to kind of hide their sounds.

And so all the little machine works that's in there. Things start moving around. Things start crushing and turning. So Sarah grabs Reese and Reese can, he just can't go anymore. So he kind of just falls to the ground. And then she starts yelling at him,

like, get out. So he finally kind of gets to his knees. We see the Terminator's breaking through the door. She starts yelling at him, move it, Reese. Get up, soldier. and then he he starts moving. So they're hiding from the Terminator. Terminator is looking for him.

But then it kind of finds them. And Reese, he's holding a, he's got like a metal pipe. And he like tells her, just run. So she takes off and then Reese starts to fight the Terminator. He's hitting him in the head with this pipe. I thought he's like knocked the head off of him. because when he's hitting him in the head, like the head is,

look like it's about to fall off, but it doesn't. So it kind of just swats at Reese and knocks him down. And then he sees, the, oh, Reese is on the ground. He kind of pulls out of one of his,

his last pipe bomb. He lights it up. The Terminator kind of leans down to pick him up. He gets that pipe bomb and sticks it into the rib cage of the Terminator. and then Reese falls down the stairs and then Terminator bulls up. Reese is laying there.

Sarah kind of comes to, she can't move her leg because you got a big old piece of metal stuck in it. So she pulls that out and then she kind of goes over to Kyle to Reese, but he's dead. So she's like, ah. So while she's kind of crying over him in the background, we see the torso of the Terminator

of the Terminator. It sits up and starts crawling after her. So it's got no legs, anything, but it's got both of its arms. And so it's crawling after her. So this is like metal on metal, trying

to skimmy along the floor. So she's she can't really run or anything because she got that big piece of metal that she pulled out of her leg. But she crawls into one of the conveyor belts and it kind of moves her along to some kind of metal press thing.

So she crawls through it, crawls all the way to end. The Terminator is still crawling after her. She gets all the way out to the other end. And then she flicks the switch and you're terminated fucker. And then she hits the button. And that metal press goes down and just smashes the Terminator. But it got to the very end. She brought this like, I don't know, gate down or something.

and then when she starts it because the Terminator was reaching out, trying to grab her. And it just pretty much did grab her, but then she pushed the button. And then that whole thing came down, and it just smashes the Terminator. It doesn't smash them flat, but just enough to stop it and just, I assume, probably damage the battery and the power core and everything.

And that was the end of the Terminator. We see its eye and its red, light. It kind of goes out. The Terminator's arm is sticking out, but it's pretty much that's all that's left of it, because the rest of it just got crushed. We see that

the paramedics and the police all show up. They put Reese in a body bag and zip him up. Sarah gets taken away in a stretcher. And some time must go by. I assume months later. Yeah, months later had gone by, because we

see Sarah, she's driving down some deserted road in Mexico and she's doing recordings talking into a tape and she kind of looks down and we notice that she's showing so she's she's pregnant she's making these tapes for

her son John her unborn son John Connor she's got a Terminator dog that's a German Shepherd in the back so so I assume by this time she's come to terms with everything the Reese told her was true

she's going to learn how to be this freedom fighter because she's rolling around with a pistol in her lap but she pulls up to some gas station to get gas and gas is $40, $40.40. 40 cents 40.3

for a litro I assume that's a leader but 43 cents. How much is gas where you're at? Yeah, I don't even know anymore. It's pushing $6 where I'm at. Yeah, it's about that up here.

So she pulls into this gas station, they get gas. We see the Mexican, older Mexican gentleman. He's putting in gas. And some little kid runs up onto her and starts, or he takes her picture first with a Polaroid. and then she's finishing her tapes

because she's sitting in her car her dog's right there and basically she's like should I tell you about your father she's like I don't know but she basically says the one night we had together

was magic so then we see that little boy take a picture of her and then he starts speaking Spanish and she's like what did he say and the old man's basically saying look man this this kid wants you says you're a beautiful signorita

um he's offering uh he's asking for five dollars for this photo of you uh so he can take money home to to his dad and he goes and if he doesn't bring home money his dad'll beat him and then he's like and he goes nice little hustle kid so he holds up the four uh quattro and little kid's like see see this little little little kid's like see this little little boy he's a little one of those guys too I had seen this kid in a bunch of other movies I want to say this is the kid that's in um

uh three amigos uh let me see I don't see who he is in the the credits on Mexican boy his name is Philip Gordon is that him that's in uh

three amigosos yep he is I guess he's in that uh boogie man movie came out in 2005 and he did Alf TV series I guess Boogieman

was his last movie that he did but yeah I'd seen this kid and some other things and he's done a lot of TV shows so but he was in the 18

he was in Alice I don't remember him that but anyway this kid is he's one of those guys so she gives him the money he goes running off and then he starts spouting out something in Spanish and then she's like, what did he say? And he goes, there's a storm coming.

And then she kind of looks away and he goes, yep. And then she just goes driving off down the road. And that's your movie. So at this point, did we know we were getting Terminator 2? Hell no, we didn't know. Because we were pumped. the end of this movie like I said I stuck around to watch what I had missed and then saw it again the next day but we don't get Terminator 2 until was it 90 91 when that one came out so you do the

math over 10 years no wasn't even quite 10 years yet uh 84 5 6 7 years later we get a terminator 2 um that's streaming on uh Paramount if you guys have that. But Terminator, this version, they never did a director's cut or extended edition or anything. It was just what we got in 84 is

what we're getting now. Either physical media or streaming. But Terminator 2, there's a version, I guess it was called the Skynet edition. On Blu-ray, that's what it was called. But they released I assume it's the director's

cut because there's maybe another five, ten minutes of the movie that James Cameron put back in if you guys have seen that version, you know. He also did that with aliens, the director's cut. I liked what he threw back into aliens

and what he threw back into Terminator 2. Again, we didn't know we were getting Terminator 2 Judgment Day and then when that came out, we were all blown away. And I was super excited because James Cameron came back to to make this one.

Did you see the the 3D version of Terminator 2? No. I remember it came to the theater. It was like really quick. I was like, I don't like conversion 3D movies,

but pretty much all the movies nowadays that are 3D. I thought they stopped doing 3D movies, but I see that Spider-Man is in 3D conversion. I'm good. Oh, we saw, I think the last 3D movie I saw was Fantastic 4.

Was that last year when that came out? It was a 3D conversion. And you didn't, if you saw it in 3D, you know, it didn't need to be in 3D. But they do that just to get more money at you. But, all right, boys and girls, that is 1984's Terminator. Awesome, awesome film.

Definitely a sci-fi action classic slash horror if you throw it into basically is a killer chasing a killing innocent women but what are we doing next I'm gonna let you pick this one brother all right um

the obvious choice would be Terminator 2 but now we'll we'll uh we'll take a break on that let me look and see let me check uh Amazon and see what we got over there on Prime.

I'm going to type action into the search engine. Here, I just push the button, action adventure. Hmm. There is a lot of good movies. We've already done. We did all the Rambo's, didn't we? Pretty. You can't remember what we've done.

Let me go down this first list and see That's an action movie I thought That was more Uh Hmm Alright this is one I haven't seen in a while It's streaming on Prime

We're gonna go to I don't think we've done this one We are going back to 1995 For the Jean-Claude Van Dam classic sudden death. I know we haven't done that. This is the hockey one, right?

Yeah. Okay. Last time I saw this was in 95 when it came out. I don't even remember. I just remember he fights the mascot. Do you remember more than me, dude? I don't even remember. I won't read synopsis.

I'll wait. All I knows, it's a. they're fighting at a hockey game. It's one of the Stanley Cup finals. And he's trying to save the world from the bad guys. But yeah, come back next time for 1995's John Claude Van Damme, classic,

sudden death. I say classic lightly. Come back for that one. All right, boys and girls, that is it for the night. Go over and listen to the regular episode as well. And if you did listen to stream, fiends with Lord's Dogtown you guys rule definitely

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come back next time for Van Dam's sudden death and we'll see we've done hard target haven't we I don't think so maybe we'll fall down that hole as well Steve if you're listening

man we still want to take up the reins for where you left off on your Van Dam series. Yeah. They got Van Damned out, but he's still pumping the movies out, but we'll see. All right, any game, yeah, sudden death the next episode.

So until then, excuse me, you guys be safe out there and party on. And be good to each other.