The Horror Returns - The Stream Queen - Ep. #1: Interview With David Howard Thornton From Terrifier (2016) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: October 29, 2022

In this very special interview with Terrifier's Art the Clown himself, David Howard Thornton, bestselling author Melissa Grace leads the way as our very own Stream Queen. We talk to David about Terrifier, his physical comedy background, and the surrealism of becoming a legitimate modern horror icon. With Terrifier 2 breaking all kinds of records in the theater, we figured this was the perfect time to revisit this awesome interview.Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A

Music City, Mel. Today, we are gathered here to discuss the movie Terrifier. It was released to Netflix in September of this year, and it was written and directed by Damian Leone. It's a story about a killer clown who goes on a killing spree, terrorizing three young women and anyone else in his way on Halloween night. So, fellas, tell me, see it or skip it? I'm going to start with you, Brian. Definitely see it. This movie.

I was a little late to this one. I heard a lot of people talking about this. You got to see it. You got to see Art the Clown. So I took a chance. I blind bought it, the Blu-ray. Fantastic movie. Fantastic.

And anybody that listens to our show knows I'm a big proponent of practical effects. And this movie is 100% practical effects. Art De Clown is a horror icon. off of one movie. And that's my opinion. I could be wrong. People might disagree with me, but I think he's up there with Penny Wise,

Captain Spalding. Everybody else just kind of falls underneath that. The movie itself was fantastic. We're going to do spoilers later, right? You can dive into spoilers now. Oh, okay. I love how the movie started. It almost gave you kind of an 80s feel,

because you get a little montage of art getting ready for the night, getting his weapons, you know, his devices he likes to use. And then you get the title card, which I felt was a very 80s throwback title card. And yeah, the kills were fantastic all the way through. I know Mel, there was one particular one in there that just kind of you had to be pre-warned. I did. So, yeah, before we really get into spoilers, I want to hear what everybody else thinks about it. So pass it off to Josh.

Yeah, I mean, absolutely see this film. I mean, I'm such a horror fan. And this absolutely, some people would have started off thinking this was a B film. In no way is this a B film. This is absolutely top echelon for me as far as horror films go. So as a matter of fact, blows away a lot of the films that get these super high budgets now. And now, I mean, like movies that are out there that have like Crimson Peak that literally you think are going to be such a great movie. Then you get into it and you're like, what am I watching?

And then you get a film like this that has maybe one tenth of the budget or if it's even a tenth of the budget. I mean, this much smaller budget. And you've got this amazing, you create a horror icon. I mean, somebody who with one more film under his belt could step onto a poster with people like Leatherface and Michael Myers. And, you know, people are already putting him on the list of your top slashes of all time. In no way can you skip this. But be warned, do not be the faint of heart and turn this movie on. If you are the faint of heart, you turn this movie on, you will not go to sleep that night.

you may turn the film off. I would even reckon it back to back in the day when people saw Texas Chainsaw for the first time totally were not realizing what Toby Hooper had just done and weren't expecting what they were about to see. And I would reckon it back to that. I mean, I feel like when you throw this movie on, you are about to be jolted into this world

that you have no clue. And you cannot predict what's, no matter if anybody ever tells you that they can predict what's going to happen in this film, they are full of shit. I will tell you that right now. If you are a horror fan in any capacity, in no way can you skip this film. Lance, we're going to you. Yeah, I was like Brian a little late to the party too, because I heard a lot of people talking about it on different podcast.

And see it. Yeah, see it. I've seen it twice, like in about a week. I actually watched it again on Monday. I had some time to kill at the office. We didn't have a whole lot of people answering their phones the day before Christmas. That ended up being on the watch list again. But yeah, what I love about this movie is the build-up,

because, like you said, Brian, it starts out with the title card and everything, and then it kind of shows you a scene that sort of is, you don't know exactly why that scene is in there until everything makes sense, the end of the movie, but I really love the way that they kind of created the characters, the young girls that were kind of like out at the party, maybe had a little too

much to drink, ended up at the pizza place. And then all of a sudden this clown shows up, just kind of staring at him and everything's real funny with one of them and the other one's freaked out. And that dynamic was really cool. The way the characters interacted, different people, you know,

perceived him in different ways. Like I said, one of them was really scared from the beginning. The other one was just basically fucking around. Did a little something with a selfie that he kind of emulated later in the movie. I really love that scene. But the kills

in this movie were probably my favorite part of it. I really enjoyed the practical effects. I love the time that he took to do some of his kills. He didn't like just jump in there and, you know, stab somebody and get away. And then he had like some surprise weapons that you really weren't

expecting to see where you kind of thought somebody had an upper hand and then, you know, oh, surprise. So, yeah, terrify her. Great movie. Yeah, even me being terrified, terrified of clowns, I have to say, see it. It's really good. David Howard Thornton, man, nails it. The thing that I like about him is just those mannerisms that are so fucking

creepy. Yeah, he plays the part of a psychotic clown very well. So yeah, I've got to say, see it. I'm very curious to hear what your opinions are as far as, you know, favorite scenes in the movie. I'm going to start with you, Brian? Oh, it's, I don't know. It's kind of a toss-up between the hacksaw scene. Mm-hmm, mm-hmm.

And as it's been put, the Buffalo Bill scene, because that was something I, when I first watched it, I didn't think was going to happen. And then it happened. And I was like, this is disturbing. But at the same time, this is amazing. I also want to add that David, the way he plays Art the Clown, he does so much with doing so little with the character. Just by sitting there, just that whole pizza, pizza shop. scene where he's just staring at. Oh my God, I know. And, you know, he barely moves or changes his expression and it just works. But as far as scenes, yeah, it's kind of a toss-up between those

two. Josh? All right. What's so funny here is me and Brian, when Brian was saying that, it was almost like the scene from stepbrothers like I wanted to say with him because it's like he was inside my mind throwing out the scenes. I was like, did we just become best friends? You want to go do karate in the garage? You know, it's like ridiculous. Because seriously, like you look at those scenes like that, and I guess just to be different, I mean, those were my scenes that I was really going to throw out there. But, I mean, you throw out a scene like the hacksaw, cutting somebody literally, and good gracious, I hope people are ready for spoilers. I mean, you string somebody upside down and cut them from top to bottom with a hacksaw. I mean, what in the world? I mean, I guess it, it,

makes me sound demented to say that that was one of my favorite scenes. But definitely, yeah, a little bit. But I mean, definitely one of the most, can we, can we say it reaches out and touches you? I mean, it reaches out and grab it. You pretty big times. Like, literally, you can't. There's no going back. Once you see the, you know, her get the veil pulled back and all of a sudden you see what's in his hand, you're like, nah, he ain't going to do that.

And you know, holy shit, he's going to do that. And you just, you know, it's all over from there. I mean, once he starts, I mean, there's nothing, there's no stopping. I mean, it's really, that's a scene, seriously. Lance? Well, I mean, it would be easy to say the scene in the pizzeria. That was so awesome because I love the way all the characters played off each other. I thought both of the actresses worked really well together in that scene and the differences in how they, you know, how they reacted to the clown.

And I also love the guys that were working in the pizzeria. It seems so realistic, you know, for, you know, you got these New Jersey pizzeria guys here. But I don't know, I really, I kind of liked the part where I thought she was going to be the, well, we're really going to spoil now. But a particular person from that scene that I really thought she was going to make it to be the final girl. But unfortunately, like I said, he did have some secret weapon. tucked away. That kind of changed that. But I thought she did a really good job.

Aside from obviously Art the Clown, I thought she was my second favorite in the movie. Yeah. So that scene where she got to be kind of badass, that was pretty cool. Uh-huh. Yeah, I've got to say, definitely in the pizzeria,

that was, I just can't imagine being that girl that's like, oh, yeah, I'm going to go sit on this clown's life. No, girl. You better. What is wrong with you? There is no amount of liquor that's going to make me be like, you know what I need to do is I need to take a selfie with this fucking crazy clown. That's what I need to do.

No. Well, and from a girl power standpoint, and you know, you're, Mel's about the girl power, right? I've got the girl power. So, I mean, really this film, I mean, at a certain point, I mean, there is some, there's a girl power thing going on, right? Yeah, yeah.

I can see that. No, no, there's no amount of liquor, y'all, that's going to make me be like, let me take a selfie. with this guy that's sitting here. No, mm-mm, not going to happen.

But aside from that, I actually really loved the scene where he's cradling the baby doll and he's all, you know, loving up on it. And then girlfriend, you know,

reaches in. She's like, have you felt a mother's touch? Blah, blah, blah. Oh my God. That scene was intense. Yeah.

You thought she was going to break him down there and he was going to start crying. Oh, my God. We're about to have a moment. Everybody gather in, gather around. We're going to have. a moment together. Oh, it was a moment. It was a moment. It was a moment. Not the moment I was

intending upon, but it was definitely a moment. So, yeah. So, wow. Here's a question for you all. What do you think? I mean, is it is the gore on point with like a, like a Tarantino? Like, to me, it was. I mean, what would you compare the gore to? For sure. What do you have? Brian, this is your territory, man. You know what? I didn't really think of it, but I I kind of agree with you. I think it's right there. I mean, it's not like, I mean, I don't guess the blood is like, you know, when the chick gets beheaded in Killville and literally blood is squirting to stop the seal. I mean, it wasn't something like that.

But I guess, and this does make me so demitted, but being such a horror fan for so long, I mean, I don't want to say the more blood the better. But, I mean, it did it does need an amount of blood to to sell it. Like, I mean, did everybody hear? see the new Halloween movie, Michael Myers. Yeah. Well, they, you know, knowing that they up the level from the original, don't get me wrong, I do not take anything away from the original. I'm a huge fan of the original Halloween film. But in the new film, you know, they throw so much extra blood at you. To me, it added some. Like, it really, it brought more validity to, dude, if Michael Myers comes after you and, and gets

after you with a knife, there's, it's going to pour, you're going to pour blood. You know, it's going to, There's going to be some blood. Yep. It'll be blood. Oh, sorry. There's a lot of it. I'm sorry. Yeah, there was plenty.

He didn't exactly worry about keeping his clown costume nice and tiny, did he? No, there was none of that. Yeah, I did like, kind of doused. And like he says in the interview, you know, I mean, he goes up and he's covered with blood and literally people run off. And, and, you know, it's pretty crazy. I mean, there was, he was. he was menacing and covered in blood. God.

Was there any part of the movie that anybody had a problem with? Like, anything? Not so much, man. Like, is it freaked you out, or do you mean problem? No. Like, for instance, the small thing that I had a problem with, I did not like that he used a gun. I thought about that.

I kind of liked that surprise, man. I mean, it kind of made up for it when he reloaded it, and then he just kind of emptied the whole gun into her face. I was like, okay, you sort of made up for it. But I just would have preferred that he not use a gun at all. It shocked me that he pulled that. I was like, what is this? Okay, okay, good, good question.

Here's part two of that. What did you think about? Here's the only thing that would have bothered me a little bit. Did you like or dislike the fact that there's a supernatural aspect to it at the end. Oh, that was the only way to end it. But is it? But is it? No, I'm... See, to me, it's... It's so much more creepy if he is not supernatural in just the sunbitch live. I mean, if he's

like a Michael Myers, like, literally, you just can't kill him. Yeah. There's a supernatural aspect to Michael Myers, regardless of whether it's acknowledged or not. But it's not as like in your face, I think, is what Josh is saying. Right. He don't make the light Flickr. No, no, no, no. Yeah. I don't know. Did you, I mean, so y'all, what do you think?

I mean, does you want him to be supernatural? Do they explore the fact that he is supernatural in the next one? You know, they better explore it. I don't know. I kind of wish they would have stayed away from that. But they did what they did. And, you know, I'm kind of just rolling with it. But I was a small gripe.

Yeah, I would have preferred not. at least if they were going to go that angle, just not with the flickering lights and probably not have him shoot himself in the head. Right, right, right. But it did. It upped his crazy factor.

That was pretty shocking too. Yeah, you're like, what am I watching? Like seriously, man, you know, y'all know when you saw him in the Buffalo Bill scene, like you know,

you just went, what in the fuck? Am I watching? What am I watching? watching. Yes. Like you're happy that you're watching it because you're a horror fan. And at the same time, you're just like, I don't know, re-evaluating things in life.

You're like, what is going on? Yes. No, exactly. That was that motherly love. She was curling up to give him. What did he do? It cuts her tits off. I mean, it's just good.

I mean, seriously, that's a thing, man. If it had been cookie cutter, we wouldn't. be having this conversation. It's correct. Yep. It's so true. I don't know how they can get around the whole supernatural aspect based on everything. With him blowing the brains out, like how's he going to come back, right?

Right. But yet he will. So I'm fine with it. I mean, like, you know, you're going to give me a killer clown. Okay. I'm on board for all of it. And do you tell me this. You think he will go on to those posters like we've all seen the posters of all your

class slashes. Does he not immediately almost go on them? Definitely. I think he does. I do too, especially, you know, within past, you know, a few years, how these type of clown movies, you know, we've seen so many of them. And then, you know, you had the thing where people were running around dressing up like clowns scaring people. You know, clowns was kind of in for a while. And he definitely stands above all that.

Without question. With the sharp, the sharp features on the eye and the sharp features, on the face. He's just, he's there. You know, and honestly, and I hope I don't hurt anybody's feelings about saying this, but man, take Ghost Face off of it. Throw him on there. You know what I mean? Like, don't get me wrong. I enjoyed

the scream movies for what they were, but Ghost Face was not an entity killer. You know, he's so many different people. Take him off. Terrifier is it. Dude, you, you, I go down an alleyway and Ghostface comes after me. Yeah, I might be kind of scared.

I go down an alleyway and I see terrified. My ass is running. I'm telling you right now. I'm running. And I'm scared that like he's going to eat my soul by looking at me. You know, he just- He'll eat your soul by looking at you. You know, it just is what it is. I mean, he, I think he has earned his spot. Yes. He absolutely has earned his spot. Like he is, he's become an icon. Yes. Overnight almost. Almost overnight. It would seem so. It just took the note of variety of getting on Netflix to where millions of people could see you. Yep. Absolutely.

Yeah, that was a good move to get it. I don't know what they had to do to get it on to Netflix, but that was, that definitely, you know, broadened the audience for it, no doubt. Absolutely. No, I fully agree. Do you guys have any other thoughts that you want to get out there before we dive into our interview? Everybody watch it.

It's on Netflix. That's a good one. Yeah, I mean, there's a lot of twist and turns in it, which I like. I thought maybe if there was one part, you're kind of talking about what was not necessarily your favorite scene or might have taken you out a little bit. How did he have time to cut that guy's head off and then turn it into like a jack-a-lanard with a candy and shit? That's kind of. That's one of those things that you just accept. Suspend his belief.

Okay. Like, wow. He's a human jack-o-lanner. Got you. I never saw that before. That's kind of cool. Maybe after practice, he's just really fast now.

He knows what he's doing. Okay. Yeah. And if nothing less, man, I mean, we've got to see this guy again. Like, seriously,

once you see this movie, you won't know. I mean, there has to be another terrifier film. You know, Arthur Clown will is, is already on his way to be immortalized as a horror icon,

essentially already there. And it has to, it's got to come back. Mm-hmm. Nice. One thousand percent agree with you. Again, as somebody that's terrified of clowns, I still loved it. So there you go.

We hope you guys enjoy our interview with David Howard Thornton. All right, David, we're going to just kind of dive right in. So I want to know what attracted you to the role of Art the Clown. Oh, it's just a fun character. I mean, it's like I had seen like All House Eve years before. and I love the character. I was like, oh my God, he's like an evil Mr. Bean. What a fun?

Because I've always wanted to play that Mr. Bean-like character, like one of the silent characters. It's very mischievous and uses a lot of physical comedy. I've always wanted to have that opportunity. And so I saw the casting notice for it. I'm like, oh, my God, yes. So I contacted my reps. I'm like, you guys have got to submit me.

I mean, I can nail this. I can totally book this role. And I did. Now, was it like a, do you think you got, or did you get any of your inspiration for how you played Arthur Clown based off of the Joker? Oh, yeah, there's a little bit Joker in there. Yeah. I pulled from so many different places, like a lot from like old like silent film actors, you know, even Mr. Bean, of course. My buddy, Stefan Carl, that recently passed away.

He was Robbie Rotten on Lazy Town. Gosh, Jim Carrey, Doug Jones, Marcel, most. So then like from like Harwick people like, you know, Robert England and even like Chucky and of course Joker and all that kind of stuff. I just put all that like a blender in my brain and came up with art. That's very cool. Are you, I'm, would you consider yourself a comic fan or an anime? I mean, I know you've done a little faceover with anime. Oh, yeah.

Especially comics. I mean, like, Joker is my ultimate role that I want to play. Like, especially on like TV or especially on TV. series because, you know, with a film, you only have, like, one or two films maybe that you can play him, but, like, a TV series, you can possibly go multiple seasons and multiple episodes and really flesh out the character and play around with them a lot. That's what I would love to. I just absolutely love to. Absolutely. And with a character that deep, I mean, you have so many avenues you can go. Oh, yeah. I'm like, it's a dream. I mean, I play him on a web series.

It's a, it's a fan-made web series. So, like, you know, we don't make any money on. off of it or anything like that, but it's, he's such a fun character. I just love doing the role and I'm like, I want to do more with the role. And I'm like, come on, like Greg Berlante, call me, buddy. You'll be part of that Berlaniverse. Oh, I mean, I just watched, like,

I finished watching the first season of Titans and I'm like, oh my God, it's so good. Mm-hmm. That was, I'm like, that last episode, too, it was such a Batman-centered episode. I'm like, oh, God, I would, Because I would love to do like a Batman show that is very dark and gritty like that. You know, just like, oh, you could just really do some dark things with the characters that way.

Even like not just Joker, but like Riddler. You can make it more like a jigsaw type of character and stuff like that. And there's so much you could do. Oh, Scarecrow. Oh, my God. Yeah. With the makeup taking over three hours to apply each time, was it a difficult? transformation and was it uncomfortable

to wear? Not really. I mean, like the biggest pain in the butt about the makeup was the contact lenses more than anything else. Like it's, it's a very lightweight silican mask that's glued to my face and so it's it was molded to my face

in the first place so it fits me perfectly. And with the glue on there and like it's fine, it's taking it off as a pain in the butt but you know what can you do but it's like I would forget that I was wearing it at times because it was just so comfortable. Is it true that you had to undergo the process like 20 times, 20 plus times during the shooting of the film?

Yep, yep, yep, yep. Three hours each time, huh? Yeah, at least, at least three hours. I mean, sometimes it was even eight hours because Damien director was also doing my makeup. So he would have to, like, do a little bit of my makeup and then go set up a shot, come back and do some more of my makeup, up and then go film. So I know there were a few nights where I got in the chair around like, like what about like 4 o'clock in the afternoon.

I didn't get out until midnight. And then I had a film for several years. So it's like, yeah, you start to lose your mind sometimes. That explains a lot about your character now. Oh, yeah. You know, I think a little bit of the delirium helped. Yeah. How much involvement did you have?

have in creating the mannerisms and expressions for the character in the film? I would say it was a good 50-50 because I based a lot on what the original art Mike Gianelli did with the character. And I just kind of like branched off from there and just added more to it. And Damien and I worked a lot with that. You know, like sometimes he knew exactly how he wanted me to act in the scene with like down to the facial expressions and stuff like that. And other times he's just like, go ahead and play.

And so that's when I have physical comedy, my background there and really just play, which is a lot of fun. So it's nice having that kind of collaborative, like, relationship with the director. Because I've had some directors where they're just like, this is my idea, and you have to do exactly what my idea. Don't do anything else. And I like to play as an actor. So it's nice having that kind of opportunity. Now, as far as like you and Mike, did you have any connection? with him or was it where did you all talk about how he had played the character versus how you

wanted to play the character or did he have any input after that or was there any beef there no i i i still have not actually met mike in person we've talked online but i never talked to him until after filming was done and everything but i mean i i just watched a lot of what he did so i could get the basic mannerism so you because i had to understand like who the character was in the first place and you know of course damien and i interacted a lot because you know especially being that makeup chair so much with them. Sure. So, yeah, that helped.

That definitely helped. It didn't say anywhere online about where he had, or why they had swapped actors. I mean, was there, do you know the reason? I think his Mike just wanted to go off and do different things with this life. I don't think he really was wanting to be an actor full time from the get-go. He was a good friend of Damians when they've been like buddies for like, years. So it was more like a friend doing a favor for a friend. And I think he just wanted to do other things with his life. I think he didn't want to go through all the makeup again. Oh, completely.

Yeah, which I can understand, you know, especially if that's not your main drive in life. So I'm like, yeah, for me, I'm like, I look at, you know, people like, you know, Robert England or Doug Jones, Jim Carrey, you know, these guys have gone hours and hours and hours even more than I had. And I'm like, if they can do it, so can I. Is this worth it? Especially to play a character like that, it's totally worth it. How did your training as a mime help you prepare for the part? Well, oddly enough, I don't have training as a mime.

I think that's like a big misconception I've seen now that people say I'm a mime. I'm like, oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. I have more respect to myself. No, I'm kidding. No, no. I would say my training is more just in like physical comedy. And mine was more self-taught. I didn't really go to school for it.

I actually have a degree in teaching. So I learned from just watching. I grew up watching the old silent comedies and, you know, watching Jim Carrey or Rowan Atkinson and all those guys. But it wasn't until I toured with Grinch for five years. Yeah. That's when I, that's where I was Stefan Carls understudy in that. So Stefan, I don't know if you ever saw Lazy Town, but.

he is a mat he well he was so weird saying that now but he was a master at physical comedy the man was a clown he he studied clowning in college and he he was the best of the best and so he he kind of like took me under his wing and just you know helped me find too my skills because i had as an actor i had never like known another actor that had like the same experience with physical comedy growing up in theater that could really help train me until I met Stefan. And then he just, you know, it was like, I considered him my Socrates of comedy.

So it was just like, yeah, I was lucky there. When you were, when you first came on the set and you were in full makeup, how did your co-stars react when they first saw you in like full costume for the first time? Oh, they loved it. They weren't freaked out. They were more freaked out when they saw me outside of makeup for the first time. for the first time. They're like,

especially Samantha, there was like one night where Samantha, who plays Victoria, she showed up on set the same time I did, and I'm like sitting there in the chair and stuff like that. I'm like, hey, Samantha, and she's like, hi, hi, hi, hi. And I'm like, it's me, David.

She's like, oh my God, that's what you look like. Because they would sometimes leave set, like before I got out of all my makeup and stuff like that because they just wanted to go in bed so they didn't know what I looked like. Well, you guys were doing a lot of filming on location like that. Deer Hills Pizzeria is a real, a real spot, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Did you freak out anybody that was like, that happened to be coming by the, by the location? Oh, yeah. It's been, excuse me, just getting over cold. But, yeah, I especially scared the guy that owned Deer Hills Pizza at the time. He has a big huge phobia of clowns. I always showed up on set already in, like, the makeup. It was great one night.

He's having a staff meeting, and he didn't know I had walked in, and I just, like, did the whole, like, shh thing to his co-st, his workers. I was like, hey, don't let him know. And I just, like, stood behind him while he's giving his speech. I was there for maybe five minutes while he's just talking and talking and talking. Then he turns around, sees me, just screams. Awesome. totally worth it.

And then like, I wouldn't even like filming because like we had some exterior shots and stuff like that. So people would pass by on the street. They're like, what the, especially like this one night, New Jersey, like that area of New Jersey that we're filming in Triton was just bad neighborhood anyway. And it was late at night. And like these two women drove by and they see me.

And they come by again and like, is everything okay? Everybody okay He's like, this is not right. What was you guys filming something? At least they were concerned, man. Oh, yeah. But I think the best, though, is probably one of my favorite stories from the set

was like, it was one night where they're already filming and I was just waiting in the makeup chair and so I already had all my makeup on. I was bored. And I hear these two women outside the window arguing. And I'm like, oh, I'm going to go watch this argument. It gives me something to do and didn't even think about it. And like one of them looks up in the window sees me and I just wave at her.

Oh my God. And they freak out going to running away. And I'm like, oh, oh, probably shouldn't have done that. This is bad because I had blood on me and everything. Oh, my God. Yes. That's what I'm talking about. So yeah, she's seen me in this window just waving at her with blood.

And like, hey, Dave, so we got some friends outside that want to meet you. Don't come out till we tell you And I'm like, oh, okay, cool Cool, I'll meet whoever. This is cool. And we had like one of those, it was like, we were filming this garage. So I had like the roll up garage door and stuff like that.

So I'm on the other side of the door and I hear Dave, come on out. Okay. So I roll up the garage door and I see like this army of like Trenton's finest in like full on riot gear. Oh, wow. Oh, my God. Like 15 of these guys out there. Do they ready to go to war? And I'm like, I would have freaked the buck out.

And they just, because they're dead silent for a minute, and then they just start laughing their heads off. Then they're like, man, we would have shot you on sight. I'm like, I told him, please do not shoot. I'm just an actor. This fake blood, do not kill me. Cloud Lives Matter. Got a little too real, huh?

Yeah. It was really fun because they're all like getting their pictures made with me, but there's just like one cop. I think he had a grenade launcher on him too, and he's just like, he's like, don't come near me, man. I can't stand clowns. And I'm like, okay, but you let you know.

You have the weapon. I have nothing on me. I'm more afraid of you. That is a wonderful. Oh, it was great. That was a funny night. At one point, they were even like, hey, so if you guys need a dead body or anything like that,

we got some down in the morgue, we can probably bring you. Oh, my God. I'm sure you hated up. Joking or not. But I'm like, yeah, no, we're okay. We're okay. Oh, my God. Okay.

That's for you. Okay, so one of my favorite scenes in the movie, oddly enough, is when you're cradling the baby doll, Like, oh, I don't know. That one just got me. So I want to know what was one of your favorite scenes to film. Oh, that was a fun one because like Puyah, the actress that plays, the homeless woman is so good.

Oh, she's so good. I mean, she had like tears going down her face. She was just like, she got into that scene. I was like, oh, my God. She almost got me emotional. I was like, what? No. No.

Do not cry. But I would say my favorite scene was the whole pizzeria scene. I just had fun in that one. I mean, you see every aspect of art in that scene. You see his playfulness. You see his creepiness. You see his just malicious evil sadistic side as well. And that was such a great scene to do.

And that's one of those scenes where I was given a lot of room just to play. So I had fun with that one. Yeah. So was that more you kind of showing through on that part? Yeah. I would say so, yeah. Okay. Okay.

Yeah. So, like I've heard Bill Mosley talk about before when they were filming Devil's Rejects that Rob Zombie kind of pushed him to do some stuff that freaked him out a little bit, like to the point where Rob had to grab him and say, look, man, I need you to do this because art is not safe. And I mean, yeah, the pun, you know, it's if you want to do something, if you really want to get out there and make a difference, you know, you have to push the limit sometime. I mean, was there anything that really pushed the limits with what you were comfortable doing? in this movie? That's a great question. Because Bill is such a sweetheart in real life, too. I love him. He is just like just like a like laid back just chill sweet man. And just like that's that's awesome to hear that. I love hearing that.

But for me, I would say not really as much. But the one part I would say maybe was like my Buffalo Bill scene. But that was more because like Damien, the last minute decided to do something different with it. Because originally it was in the script where Art was wearing the body parts over his clown costume. He's like, I have this really fucked up idea. He's like, why don't you do that naked? I'm like, oh, I was like, I've never been one about, I've always been very self-conscious about my body because, you know, I'm honest about it.

I look like E.T. when I have my shirt off. So I'm like, oh, who wants to see me naked? I don't want to see me naked. But I'm like, but, you know, I'm like, I thought about it. I'm like, first of all, that's really freaky. That would be really, really freaky, knowing that I'm wearing someone else's body parts on my, like, flesh. That's, that's really freaky.

And second of all, it's like, you know what? this Catherine, who played Don in the film, for what she had to endure for her saying, and she exposed herself in such a manner. I'm like, you know, if she can do it, I can do it. So, yeah, I'll do it. Because I'm like, I think that will make that scene stick out so much more. You're right, Damon. That will make that so much freakier.

Let's do it. I was like, I apologize to the crew. They have to see me like that. But yeah, let's do it. Well, I just, I think it's awesome that you did it. You know what I mean? Like, it's awesome that you take those risks. Like I said, I mean, I think Bill Mosley hearing him say, you know, he was glad that he did or he's glad that he was pushed to do that.

Yeah. Because it made that more of an impact. I believe absolutely wholeheartedly that it made more of an impact for sure. Yeah. Oh, that's, that's acting too. I'm like, you're not yourself. You're supposed to be playing someone else. And like, both of our characters are evil, sadistic people.

Right. like, yeah, that's just something that that character would do. So, yeah, you have to let go of some conventions that you have in your head to do those kinds of things. Speaking of Damien, after being cast as Art to Clown, how did you get along with him? Oh, great. I'm like, Damien's an awesome dude. He's just like, for the amount of just messed up stuff he comes up with, he is like the total opposite in real life. He was just like a big huge geek, just really chill, just sweet guy.

Just very respectful. I'm like, he never once lost his cool on set. And we had, we had several mishaps and stuff like that. He never once lost his cool, never raised his voice, never got angry. He's just very chill dude. And of course, you know, we got to know each other very well in the makeup chair and all that kind of stuff. So I was like, yeah, I mean, he's basically like family to me now. I mean, we talk all the time still.

Cool. Well, this movie's definitely picking up a lot of cult following, at least in the circles that we hang around in. I think Netflix probably helped a lot. Oh, yeah. You have any idea what the original budget was? I don't want to give the exact numbers, but it's definitely less than six figures. Gotcha. Wow, really? Yeah.

Yeah, I thought it was a lot bigger budget than what it was. Like when Damien told me what the budget actually was, he told me earlier this year, I couldn't stop laughing for about five minutes because I couldn't believe it. That what we pulled up with that kind of budget, especially when you consider like the huge multi-million dollar movies that like Hollywood will make for horror and better crap. That absolutely. Yes. That you see out there.

And it's like, yeah. And I think what saved us a lot of money in it, It was that Damien did all the practical effects. It's like that's, you know, when you're not relying on CG and you actually have someone that you're not having to hire someone to do your practical effects, that knows, you know, that saves a lot of money. Well, and some people would compare him to his, or from what I've read, his idol, Savini. Some people would compare his work.

I totally completely agree that he is the next Savini. Totally agree. Totally. I mean, that's, that's who he's, he's idolized. He, he totally, he, we got to meet, uh, Tom earlier this year at a convention. And I like, I've never seen Damien just like geek out so much where he was just, he, he almost kind of shut down. He was so nervous. He was just like, oh my God.

He's such a nice guy too. Oh, he really, he's changed. He's changed. He now is a very, very, very nice guy. Yeah. It was, it was, I think Damien was just like, he couldn't believe it. he was just like oh my god this is he made himself uh he made a little uh funco figure like of art and he gave it to tom that we signed and stuff like that and he's like he just like you he gave

him a copy of the movie and all that he was just like it's like you you were the reason i've done this so this is for you very nice yeah yeah it's like and tom was like wow thank you so very much and it's like we had the same reaction to robert england too both of us were just kind of like That's awesome. Yeah. So I'm curious, how does working in film differ from working on the stage in theater or doing forsover work? Oh, it's so much different because, like, that's what I, I, like, this was my first big film. I, I've done, like, you know, background work and stuff like that beforehand, but so this is my first real foray into film.

And my background is on stage. I grew up in the theater most of my life. You know, at least it started literally my whole entire life in the theater, starting out in like church theater, going through the community theater to like, you know, here up in New York. And there's a big difference. So I'm like, I would say one of the biggest differences like with theater, you have weeks of practice of rehearsal so you can take that time to fine tune the characters

in the scenes and find all these little fun nuances. and play around with things. And then you have multiple performances where you can just keep on building upon it. And you have that instant feedback from the audience so you know what's working and what is not working. So you can adapt. With film, you have none of that.

It's like you just film on the day. But then if you make a mistake, you can go back and do it again and, you know, do multiple takes. So you have that luxury there. But like, I'm one of these people. I will think, I'm, I'm, I'm constantly adding things to my performance when I do stuff on stage. Even on the last show, I'm adding stuff.

And I'll even think of stuff after I finished the run of a show. And I'm like, ah, oh, that would have been fun to do. And with film, I don't, I can't do that. I'm like, oh, well, what it is is that's, that's just what it is. So I'll say that's like the biggest difference. there's so much waiting around on set. Just to, there's more waiting around than there is actually filming. Right.

Makes sense. And putting on makeup and all that for you, huh? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. But there are aspects of both that I really enjoy. So I was like, I can't really choose which one I prefer. Man, now you were in conversations that talk about Pennywise and Captain Spalding. Like, you're in that realm now.

It's so weird. I mean, how does that feel? Like, that's crazy. Like, you're talked about in the same circles that have people like Sid Haig and Tim Curry and Scarsgaard, you know, playing these iconic character. And now you're one of them. Does that feel weird for you? Yeah. Or what?

It's very weird. It's just, like, all of that is so bizarre to me. I mean, right now I'm having to, like, wrap. my brain around something. Last week they had the Fright Award, the Fright Meter Awards. And I was nominated for Best Actor

opposite of Nicholas Cage and John Kresensky and a lot of other fantastic great actors. And I ended up winning and I'm like, are you kidding me? That's amazing. Congratulations. Yeah, thanks.

It was just like, that blue, it's like, I'm still like, what? Especially because Nicholas Cage came as runner-up for Mandy. And I'm like, are you kidding me? Nicholas Cage. It's Nicholas Cage, man. Come on, man. Well, I mean, it's a testament to how you played this character.

I mean, you absolutely, I mean, you show up. And it takes something to have that kind of presence. You know, you can do the makeup. anyone can show up in the makeup, but if you don't have that presence, it's all for not. You know, and your presence is absolutely, and I'm sure that you connect with that. I mean, you knew that the presence had to be something specific. Yeah, I'm, I'm, I just do what I've always done on stage, though. So just like, that's, I, it's, I don't, it's, to me, it's just weird.

It's, it's all very weird concept to still wrap my brain around. Because to me, I'm just myself. I'm still like this insecure nerd on the inside. So I'm like, what? No. It's very strange to be like, be mentioned in the same sentence as people I've grown up idolizing and learning from my whole entire life. So it's, it's very bizarre. We've already brought up some great names already.

if you can work with anybody in the industry, who would it be and why? Oh, God. I would say, like, Doug Jones or, like, Andy Circus. I love those guys so much. Yeah, I think they're such amazing character actors. They're so diverse, and I think they would just be an absolute joy to play off of. Jim Carrey is, of course, another one. And if he was still alive, Robin Williams any day.

Oh, without a question. Yeah. It's just like, oh, God. Just those guys, they've all been like big sources of inspiration for me my whole entire life. And so I'm like, I would do just, I would be happy just having one sentence opposite of them and just be like, yeah. Mark Hamill too. Oh, my God, Mark. Oh, gosh. His voice work even, even if you just play opposite him, his voice work. I mean, yeah. So diverse. What's so funny is like I have like one degree of separation from Mark. now with John Wesley's ship. Oh, yeah. Flash. Yeah, because John, I got to know John by we, my buddy David Gregory, he was John's, I think,

son on a soap opera they used to, they were on together. And David created this audio drama called Powder Burns, which is about, it's a Western concerning a blind sheriff, and John plays the blind sheriff. And they brought me in as the villain of the week, I guess, for the episode. and they like to try to get all the actors to record together and so I got to record in the booth with John I'm like this is amazing I'm like inside I was like geeking out the whole entire time

like oh my god I'm playing the villain off of the flash that's awesome and I'm like and now John and I're really good friends he's the one that hooked me up my appearance manager and stuff like that so I'm like I just I adore John he's like the one of the coolest guys but I put the flea in David's ear

because we've actually won awards for this show for like the Sovoss Awards, the voiceover awards for one of our episodes and stuff like that that they did with Ed Asner. And I'm like, you know what? If we do a second season of this, you know what would be really cool? It's to bring in Mark Hamel to play my father and we come back for revenge. And then you could have a whole reunion between Mark and John doing voiceover together. And it would just be like, David's like, oh, my God, that would be great. I was like, well, let's try to make this happen, man.

I'm here all over it. I was like, I was like, dude, just give me one line. Just like, thanks, dad. And if I get to be in the same room with Mark, I would be happy. Man, you've already got, hey, knowing John Wesley's ship, you're one foot in the door for the Berlaniverse. I mean, he's already, I mean, he's connected to the flash. Oh, I would be.

I mean, I love, I love what Greg does. I'm like, I'm a huge fan of all. those shows. So I'm just like, oh, ye, please, put me in, coach. Put me in. I would be so very happy to be his Joker.

Oh my God. You got it. Jason. Yeah. Yes. I love it. Oh, my God. I love it so much. It's always been my dream role, so I'm like, yeah. You would be perfect.

Well, hey, man, you look at it. Tara Strong was not the original Harley Quinn, but now she's the go to. Yeah. So, hey, man, if any, if Mark River decides to put it down, all you have to do is do what you just did. That's right. That would be happy. Because I'm like, I don't do a full on Mark impersonation because I think his is just the best. Right.

You don't want to mess with the best. But it's definitely inspired by him. I'm like, to me, I think his interpretation of the Joker is what the Joker is. as much as I love like the live action versions of even like Romero or like Nicholson and Ledger they weren't to me the comic book version of the character and that's always been my dream is to actually bring the comic book version of the character to life on live action version of it like to actually look like him and you know set and like that's what I want to do one day not these like like what they did with you know suicides

squad where he looked like some thug or, I'm like, no, that's not the comic book version. I want, I want the comic book version of Joker. Like, so far, no one has really hit that nail on the head with a live action version, but Mark nailed it. Well, he does that. It's just like anytime anybody sees Batman on the page, you hear Kevin Conroy. And it's exactly the same way. You know, you hear Mark Hamill's Joker when you read him, or at least when I read the comics.

that's what I hear. Oh, the final thing was, even like before the animated series came out, that's kind of the voice I had in my head anyways for the character. It was just, that was it to me. Even as a kid, it was weird. I was like, I was always into voices as a kid. So that's always how I read him in my head and having a little bit of a raspyness. Because I guess I overthought it as a kid.

I was like, well, you know, if you fell in a vat of chemicals, those chemicals might have burned his throat some so he would have a raspiness to his voice. Absolutely. Yeah. I think too much. No, no, no. That's the reason why you were able to bring that character to life is because of the way that you think, and we need more people like you. Yes. Well, hopefully someone else thinks the same. They will.

All in good time. Hey, guys, can I ask the question I've been dying to ask? Sure. All right, look, so we know you've been hitting the convention circuit. we were talking about it a little bit before we recorded. We've got to hear some crazy fan stories from you, man. Any clown fetishes that you've dealt with or anything really, really bizarre you can tell us about? Gosh, strangely enough, there haven't really been any weird instances with fans.

Like, I guess there's such a, like, a misnomer or, like, some kind of weird stereotype about horror fans, but they're just ordinary people. Yeah, chances are the housewives at Disney World are going a lot more crazy with, like, the pirate characters than they are with your convention. I've had a few people dress up as art, which I think is so cool. Yeah, which I've loved. Probably the craziest thing to me is just seeing, like, little kids that are fans. I'm like, really? You're serious.

I am totally serious. Oh, my God. I'm like, especially when I was up in Chicago, there was like a four-year-old girl that had seen the movie several times. No, really? She was just infatuated with me. She was just, and she was so cute. Oh, it was so, so cute. I'm like, you're not, I'm like, you're not scared.

I mean, like, no, I think you're funny. I'm like, oh. Oh, my. Like, I'm not the hacksaw scene alone. I mean, seriously. Seriously. Yeah, I think her parents covered her eyes at Sir. Okay, hopefully that's the case. Now, don't get

me wrong. I love it. Like, I think it is the scene that literally, I mean, when my friends told me about the movie, that was it. It was like, dude, you are ready for what's about to say. That was a scene you told me about it. Like, I literally had to foreworn Mel. She's like,

Josh, I'm very scared of horror movies. I'm very scared of clown. I just have to tell you this one scene, I just need to prepare you. Yeah, so yep, yep, yeah, it's, that's why I'm like, are you sure you're okay with me, kid? It's like, I do bad things to people. I can't, I mean, I'm not sure I'm okay with you, so I can't imagine. Oh, it's funny.

I mean, I've had full grown on grown adults like, just like, I can't go near you. And I'm in my just regular duds and they're like, I. Oh, no, no, no, no, that's fine. That's great. But the clown get, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, yeah. I'm telling you, man, I'm looking for somebody like Universal to jump on. I mean, I've been to Halloween Horror Nights multiple times, which, by the way, if you ever have the chance to go with, if you're a horror fan, I mean, it is a must.

And I'm just waiting for them to jump on the, the art the clown, you know, whatever. The whole, we need a haunted house that's literally centered around terror fire. Oh, God. That would be insane. Oh, it would be so good. because, I mean, and it lends itself so well to what they do down there. Yeah. Oh, you definitely so.

Definitely so. I totally agree. It's like there's so, there's so much potential for this character in the long run. It just blows my mind. I'm just like, this is, wow. I was even like, like they recently, you know, they announced like Moral Combat 11, I think, that's coming out next year. And people were like speculating, oh, they, because they usually like to put, like a horror character in as a DLC fighter.

I'm like, oh, I would love one day to have art in the game, because I'm a huge video game nerd anyway. So I'm like, oh, my God. And I was just thinking, like, oh, yeah, they could totally use art in the game. There's like so many things they could do with them, like, move wise. And especially for fatalities and stuff like that. I'm like, oh, God, that would be awesome.

You know, give it a few years. Maybe we'll see. Yeah. And with talking to David, I mean, does he have plans to bring art back? Oh, Damien, yeah, yeah. Damien, I'm sorry. I'm David. Yes, you are.

Yes, you are. I talk to myself all the time. Exactly. But does Damien have plans to bring him back to the big screen, right? Oh, yeah, yeah. I mean, he's almost done writing the sequel right now. That's amazing. Yeah, he's, I think he's already over 100 pages into the script.

Yeah, yeah. So he's, he and I've been talking a lot. He's wanting me to come over and read the script over at his place. He's told me some things. are going to be in it, but other things he was wanting to leave a surprise for me, so he sees my reaction when I read it. I'm like, oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy, oh, boy. So it's safe to say that we can see you again?

Yes, I would say, we don't have a distributor yet, or I'm not a studio behind us or anything like that yet, but I'm hoping, like, that's what he wants to do is after he gets a script written, he wants to start shopping it around to people to fund us and stuff like that. So, you know, hopefully we can get a studio to back us, for this go around so we have a bigger budget and stuff like that because I know some of the ideas that we have planned for this are like we definitely have to have a bigger budget for so and they're bad shit crazy it goes to Netflix I mean Netflix now can produce your film and it's still

turn into I mean with their originals I mean being a Netflix original is not something to scoff at I mean even if you're a Netflix original or what they call a Netflix original I mean that's still huge. Yeah. I mean, they did that with the last Chucky movie. Yeah, straight to Netflix. Cursor Chucky. Yeah.

So, I mean, who knows? I'm like, I'm open to whatever, whatever's going to happen is going to happen. That's how I look at it. But I know there, even if we can't get a studio, I know so many people that already want to put money into it. So that's always good to know. That's awesome. So do you have any upcoming convention appearances? Is there any future projects that you can tell us about?

Yeah, yeah. I'm still working on Nightwing Escalation. It's a fan-made show, so we film whenever we all can get together and actually film. So we're filming the final season still. We've been filming this final season for like three years now, as you do. But, yeah, I'm still working on that. As for conventions, I'm doing a whole slew of them next year. I can't remember them all off the top of my head.

But I know, like, between now and the end of February, I got two. I'm doing Days of the Dead down there in Atlanta. Oh, awesome. Yeah. So I'm going to be there in January. And then I'm going to be up in North Carolina and Charlotte at a Mad Monster Party in February. Okay. And then I'm doing several other Days of the Dead and other stuff, you know, all over the nation.

Up in Canada, I'm even going to Germany in October. So, wow. It's going to be a great year. I'm at least doing one convention a month all the way through October, so I'm not complaining. October, I'm excited. Yeah. Who knows what else is coming up? I have no idea.

I hope my agents get on the ball and start submitting me for whatever. Well, clearly we need to petition to have you in here in Nashville. Ah, yeah. Definitely. I definitely come out. Okay. It's good southern food. I'm always happy to go back down south.

Oh, honey. Now, we can take you and show you some good southern food. Oh, I know, I know. I'm already excited to go into Atlanta just so I can have a waffle house again. That's so true. I've already talked to the people of Days of Dead when we're in Chicago. There was like, there's a waffle house down the street. I'm like, hell, yes, there is.

I am going to be at that waffle house. I will bring people. I love it. Okay, so obviously we can find you on Instagram. at David Howard Thornton. By the way, ladies, if you have not seen David Howard Thornton, he is the most adorable human being on the planet. But where else can our listeners find you?

You can also find me on Facebook under the same name and Twitter, which is probably the easiest place to get me to like follow you on is Twitter because I can follow everybody on Twitter and I don't have to worry about stupid limits. So I'm on Twitter under David H. Thornton. Ah, okay. Yep. That's probably the best ways to find me. Awesome.

And do you have any charities or causes that you like to support? Not anything I'm officially with, but I mean, I usually give to a lot of cancer charities. So that's, you know, because I've, I lost my mom to cancer back when I was in college, which was basically the whole catalyst that got. me out of teaching and doing acting as my career. So, you know, that's a big important thing to me is cancer research. So I'm like, that's actually a big goal in my one day is to make the millions so I can set up a whole cancer fund and stuff like that for, you know, some way to, some way to help out those that have cancer and stuff like that. So yeah.

So give the characteristics. That's amazing. That's awesome. Okay. So I do have to ask you what? What did you teach? I got my degree in elementary education. I have also a minor in history.

That's amazing. Yeah. So I'm a big history nerd, so yes. Okay. That's awesome. I come from a long line of engineers and teachers. Like most, my grandfather was with the Army Missile Command that worked with Dr. Von Braun, who started NASA.

So my grandfather basically helped start NASA. And my dad worked for NASA for like 40 years. And so, yeah. crap. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, a family of space cases and teachers. Oh, awesome.

Yeah. Well, that's amazing. Well, it explains why you're so awesome also. So that's fantastic. Yeah, I'm the oddball in the family. I don't know. I think you're pretty great. So, uh,

thank you. Thank you so much, David, for joining us. That's all of our questions for today. I appreciate you so much. Oh, thanks for having me. This was a lot of fun talking with you guys. So fun. We'd love to have you back sometime.

Definitely, definitely. Okay. Well, we will plan on that then. Sounds good to me. And talk to Greta Baranti for me. Yeah, that's, Brian, that's your territory, right? I'm on it. Listen.

Get on that. We will do it. Yeah, we need to, we just go ahead and start the petition now. That's right. Get the ball rolling and make this happen. I also like to be Plastic Man. I'm putting that out there since I know they're going to make a plastic man movie. There you go.

Okay. I know my competition's been Schwartz. I'm like, ah, Schwartz. Yeah. Schwartz, too. Mm-mm. Mm-mm.

It's like I can actually put my legs behind my head, so come on. Well, damn. You're doing all of us. I don't know your CG budget. There. Well, hey, and I meant to ask you, while we were doing the interview, but I mean, it's cut now. But the thing, like Doug Jones, I mean, he has very similar.

I mean, like your build and his build. I mean, is that, it just lends so well to all those characters. That is just, I love to play his son. Yeah. I've actually started a friendship up with Doug recently. We've been chatting because we're going to be at a mad monster party together in North Carolina. So I'm like, plus we both have the luxury of, and the honor. of killing Jenna Connell in a film.

He was, because she was in Bye Bye Man with him. Oh, that's cool. That's right. We tried to forget that one. It's a shame, too, because, like, if they went with the original cut of the film, it would have been so much better.

Well, he looked awesome, but I mean, other than that, that was about all, that's where it ended for me. Yeah, it had nothing to do with the actors in that. It was just like the cut of the film that they did, And it was a shame, too, because that character had so much potential. No doubt.

So much. And Doug's so talented. Oh, my God. And he's just the sweetest man. That's it. Man, just one of the nicest guys I've ever met at any convention. Like, between, like, him and, like, we were talking about earlier, Bill Mosley. I mean, Bill Mosley has to tone down Sid, hey, because they always sit together.

And he's like, Sid, don't be an asshole. Yeah, I was actually because I, like, like, I mean, I had talked with Bill several times on Twitter before the convention, but we were at Days of the Dead together in Chicago. He came straight to my table as soon as I got there and just said hi. And I was like, wow, whoa, wow, oh, wow. Like, you know who I am? Yeah, yeah.

I was like, wow, he is such a sweet, sweet man. That's what I found about so many of these horror actors. They're all really good guys in real life. Like, you know, like, cane, hotter. It's just such a. Kane is great, dude. Yeah. R.A., who was leather face.

They're all just Robert England. They're all just really nice guys in real life. Absolutely. Yeah. So it's so funny how that is. That's like you, though. I mean, honestly, okay, I am terrified of clowns. I'm not going to lie.

I'm super terrified. So when you, you know, Your message slid into my messages, like with the super scary face. I was like, I don't know how to feel about this. Like, he's so sweet. But oh, my God, that's terrifying. But you are. You're super nice.

So that's awesome. I try my best. I have my moments. As people on Twitter know. See, I'm so glad to know that I can now find you on Twitter. That's, that's, that's, okay. We'll start, we'll start following now. yeah i'll allow it

appreciate you coming by man thank you so much david we really appreciate it and again you can find him um in the film terrifier on netflix guys so make sure to check it out all right thank you david you're welcome y'all take care and a happy new year to you and you too yeah