The Horror Returns - The Wrestling Returns - Netflix: Wrestlers (2023)

Episode Date: December 17, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:02 I started wrestling. It's kind of like a last resort type thing. You can only take so many hits before you get angry. Do I have some regrets? I want to be more than what I am. I say wrestling saved me. I found a way to channel my anger. Professional wrestling is an art form. It's based on real life pain, trauma.
Starting point is 00:00:30 You've got to be a little mad. It is welcome to another episode of the wrestling returns. Welcome back, everybody, to a very special bonus episode of the wrestling returns. I'm your host, Brian. With me, as always, my brother Nez. What's up, man? Yo, yo, what's up, everybody? Brian here told me to watch a show on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:01:14 And I remember scrolling past it and not really like, eh, that's just another. documentary so i was running out of things to watch because i watched everything pretty much while i've been laid up but uh let everyone know what's up we are going to talk about the two thousand twenty three wrestling documentary wrestlers on uh netflix now i i too have scrolled through this and skipped it, but I think I saw a clip on Instagram
Starting point is 00:01:53 and I was like, oh, it's about OVW, Ohio Valley Wrestling for those who don't know, who used to be like a developmental territory for WWE back in the day. So I was like, okay, because I didn't know
Starting point is 00:02:10 they were still around. So I was like, let me check it out. I did the thing where you said, you just, you know, how you're just going to watch one episode and then go to bed? Yeah. I ended up binging the whole thing. And then I hit Ness off and I was like, you got to watch this. So, we'll real quick get into a quick synopsis.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Best one I could find is at a storied professional wrestling organization, new owners and rising stars strive to make an impact beyond the ring. It's pretty much what the documentary is about. What did you think about it is? I thought this was pretty good. I was just going to, yeah, let me watch an episode and see what it's about. I thought it was going to be about different wrestling promotions. I didn't know it was going to be just about OVW. I've heard of the name.
Starting point is 00:03:10 I've heard a couple of the wrestlers because I've just, by seeing clips here and there. And I just, okay, whatever. But then once I started watching this, yeah, man, I couldn't. It took me two days to finish it because I started it kind of late. And I was like, man, I got to go to bed. I got to get up really. But I finished it. And wow, man, this was good.
Starting point is 00:03:34 There was a couple, one episode that kind of like, uh, kind of brought me down. But, I mean, these are like, these guys are out and gals. They only focused really on, um, Two of the ladies, the mother and daughter, Haley J. Holly Hood, Haley J. and what's her mom's name? Marie. Was it Marie? The Amazing Maria James. That's who. They also, what's her name? Fear, fear, Freya, it's either Freya or Freya the Slayer?
Starting point is 00:04:15 It kind of talked about her a little bit. Yeah, which was weird because the, what was her name, Layla Gray? She was the one by the end of the show that got picked up by a big company. Yeah, so, and the whole, the guy that was running the whole show was, well, he was pretty much in charge of the talent and everything was Al Snow, for those you guys that remember him. He is a former wrestling champion, CEO and co-owner, and baby, slash heel of Ohio Valley wrestling depending on the day and he's known
Starting point is 00:04:53 for wrestling the plastic mannequin head named head if you guys remember that who wants some head and stuff like that you can't do that nowadays oh no and some of the wrestlers that they were focusing on was cash flow
Starting point is 00:05:10 I liked him Mr. Peck Mr. Pecktacular it's PECC dash tacular um he was he was a guy that was rolling around on the uh the um hoverboard segment he didn't want to waste any energy
Starting point is 00:05:28 i thought that was a good gimmick because every time they showed him there he was I mean he stayed k-fave the whole time he was always rolling around on that thing I thought that was cool and Fay of the Slayer uh Hollywood haley jay and uh I couldn't pronounce this
Starting point is 00:05:47 guy's name Mahabali Shira That one was a surprise to see him because I saw him on his initial run and impact wrestling and he looked like a future star over there and then I read he got picked up by
Starting point is 00:06:07 WWE as one of the new developmental wrestlers and then I just didn't hear nothing for about him and then to hear his story on here I was like damn, that's kind of sad. Yeah, I think it was episode, these are three or four, when they focused on him. Yeah, that episode, I was, uh, I was hitting their tears are coming out of my eyes by the end of that episode. Um, I fell for him.
Starting point is 00:06:33 I mean, his story, he's not, and he didn't seem like he was an asshole. It seemed like he was really, uh, a genuine guy. And it seemed like he was about the business. He didn't want to let Al down. He kept telling him that. I love you, man, thank you. I don't want to let you down. And he seemed like he was legit.
Starting point is 00:06:55 He was all about this life. So I really loved his character. He's like badass in the ring. This guy's like probably one of the biggest ones in all of it. And he's like, he's like in shape, but he's like big guy too. He's from he's a, what does it say here? Occupation. The first Indian, real Indian, not not me.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I'm the fake Indian. OVW National Heavyweight Champion. He's a baby face turned heel. And I thought it was cool. I'm not even going to try to pronounce his real name, but I thought he was good. The amazing Maria James, I liked her a lot.
Starting point is 00:07:34 I thought she was about the business. She did some stuff back in the day. Her daughter, I liked her. She was probably my favorite out of the younger ones. but she had that little attitude like I'm gonna be a star I mean everyone wants to be a star I get it but she kind of had that little attitude and I'm gonna do whatever I want and no one's gonna tell me what to do because she liked to she liked to get green before each match I guess she was dealing with some kind of um I don't know um some kind of disorder like epilepsy I think they yeah but that's what she said yeah I don't know but Al was like Like, on your own time, well, he was telling everybody. On your own time, you guys do what you do. But when you're here, basically on the clock, you need to put all that stuff behind you.
Starting point is 00:08:27 Because there was another guy that they were dealing with. And he was. Matt Jones. Yeah, he was snorting something. No. Oh, you're talking about the, okay, I got confused. You're talking about the guy that got arrested in the parking lot. Yeah, he was snorting.
Starting point is 00:08:45 Norton something and the cops were riding by and they got him and he got he didn't get fired he got like suspension for a little while so he I don't know how long it seemed like it was not very long but but he went and cleaned himself up hopefully he's still clean and he's still doing doing what he needs to do because they were I was saying it was like yeah man he's a really good wrestler he's a good performer but I can't have any of that and then getting arrested on uh ovw property he it was like uh because now yeah i mean i know a lot of wrestlers um i mean even back in the uh with the drugs and and the party in and everything so i don't know so it's it's hard it's hard to say that they don't do it anymore i'm sure wd and a ewe pretty much uh have that all locked down
Starting point is 00:09:39 they probably get tested if they need to but i think of these smaller promotions um they probably a little more lenient with it but I mean free free my girl Lou Morgan. Yeah man what's up with that? I read it could be a story they're coming up with but
Starting point is 00:09:57 it looks like it was her friend's bait pen that was left in the car oh man they made it seem like there was like pounds of weed in there. No it's they ain't said specifics but if I'm reading that WWE's not tripping about it, then it wasn't that bad.
Starting point is 00:10:19 Well, if they, I mean, all can't do is test her. And if she's clean, then, yeah, it wasn't mine. It was my friends. Yeah. But, I don't know. I was like, just for weed? Damn. Free live organ.
Starting point is 00:10:30 Yeah. I was like, no. So they focused on them pretty much, though. The whole thing was seven episodes. And then there was this one guy that came aboard to help do. His name is Matt Jones. He's a radio host. Oh, gosh, that guy was such an asshole.
Starting point is 00:10:50 Radio host, New York Times, bestselling author, co-owner of Ohio Valley Wrestling. And then who was the other dude? There was another guy. They showed him, but not too much. He, I think, was a politician friend of his that felt like that was like a part of the, that OVW was a part of the community.
Starting point is 00:11:10 I can't remember his name, but he felt like OVW was a part of the community. and should be saved. So he came, he was more of a silent partner. Yeah. He would only show up when there was like big decisions needed to be made and they called like a group meeting.
Starting point is 00:11:29 He, yeah, he was basically some of the money. So, but I mean, the whole series and the whole, it was cool. And I hope that this really does good for their promotion,
Starting point is 00:11:42 putting this out there. Because it seems like, I don't know if this was scripted or anything or was it legit. I don't know. I want to lean more of that this was a legit story. And everything is a business. I've always said this. And like, because the guy, the Matt Jones guy, he was like, I'm doing this to try to make some money.
Starting point is 00:12:06 And I don't think his heart was in as much as Al Snow's was and the rest of the roster. because they were all there Haley, Jay, I mean, I love her and everything, but she was more like, I need to get paid. I need money and this and that. Well, she told the camera straight up. She was like, I'm a little hood rat. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:26 She ain't lying. Her and her, the fuck was her boyfriend's name, the other wrestler. I didn't think that guy. Stupid fucking designs cutting his beard. That fool, man. He was just, he thought
Starting point is 00:12:42 he was the shit i didn't like i lost respect for him because i could see being in a relationship with her is probably a lot yeah but when they got into their little altercation and she was like yeah i hit him and then they asked her has he ever put hands on you and she was just like next question yeah i'm like oh you put your hands on women oh i i can't can't do with that the other one dude i liked He was like that rocker guy with blonde hair. Oh, the one that was giving lap dances out or something? Yeah, that dude. I like to.
Starting point is 00:13:26 Was it Ryan, Ryan Howell? Yeah, that guy. Okay, I liked him. He seemed cool and was about doing the job, having fun, and being there with the fans. And that's what I loved about all of them, except for that one asshole, the Haley-J's boyfriend. And he just acted like, I don't talk to nobody. And I don't want to put my stuff out his, his merch. I don't want to be out there because then I got to talk to the wrestlers and all that.
Starting point is 00:13:53 I was like, why are you there then? So, I mean, I was kind of like, this guy seems like an asshole. But there was a lot that went on in this. It was real emotional at times, made you love him and made you hate him. but the Matt Jones guy he was the one I just didn't I didn't like him at all yeah I didn't like his idea that I'm gonna come tell people in the business how to do their business yeah and he knew nothing about the business he even said it so I was like was the other guy um Ryan Kinnison that might be him no no no I'm sorry that was the lead
Starting point is 00:14:42 commentator oh that guy I felt bad for him because oh they almost did him dirty you were you were hoping he still had a job by the end of the by episode seven
Starting point is 00:14:55 I think it was Craig Greenberg here it says self he was one of the co-owners okay so because I was like god damn I mean I mean I get it man it's a business and everything
Starting point is 00:15:12 but and they were just saying Matt was the one that was like yeah this guy we don't need him I mean he's not making any money uh for us I was like yeah I don't think I could run a wrestling promotion there's no way I don't know that much of the business I don't know the business at all other than I just enjoy it I enjoy watching wrestling that's as much as I know and talking about it I said I couldn't sit there and try because Al's no he's a cool guy and everything because he's about that life and he's about that business but he's also like he was he seemed like he was stressed out every show and the thing is good thing his wife was a masseuse yeah and the thing that i loved about it is i would love to be in an area where there was wrestling every week but wrestling
Starting point is 00:16:02 television show yeah that you could go to i mean i don't know exactly where this is at uh in ohio but I was like man I wish I could I wish I could go to indie shows all the time for a while the reno was going strong they were putting them out every other every other month one or two and then it just kind of just died out but I was just like man to go to there and it seemed every it seemed like the diehards with a shout out to little gracie I'm glad that they kind of focused on her for a little bit there was just a little gal that just came with her dad and just loved it she was talking shit she had her signs and everything they always kind of made it uh uh to glean over to her and talk shit to her and give her the finger and all that so i mean i loved all that and like all the
Starting point is 00:16:55 wrestlers man they and if you go to indie shows there's probably that one or two assholes that doesn't want to talk to to the audience but if you're if you go to these like the many i've been to they were always really cool after they'd be at their merch tables i mean they'd be hanging out and everyone and meeting everybody taking pictures and all that i mean i love when they do that and a lot of these guys were and gals were pretty much yeah i mean so i want to do this looking oboeuvs based in louisville kentucky that makes sense because the matt guy wanted to do a whole university at kentucky versus louisville is that what he kept talking about yeah I think he was trying to bring in his sports world into the wrestling world and I think have wrestlers on different teams wear the jerseys and create like a rivalry like that and all the wrestlers.
Starting point is 00:17:51 Like that's fucking stupid. Yeah. I don't know. I mean, again, they only focused on a handful because there was pretty much a full roster. I mean, not everyone got some kind of time. I mean, maybe walking by the cameras or anything. But maybe they just they couldn't focus on everyone. They just picked.
Starting point is 00:18:12 I'm sure Al probably picked everyone. Yeah, this person, this person, this person. Yeah, I mean, it would be somebody worth watching. I like the little segments with the cash flow because he was like the vet. He's been in the business a long time. He's kind of been there, done that. And I like that he finally got not a lot of shine. But when he got called up to do a dark match on AEW, I thought that was cool.
Starting point is 00:18:37 yeah because al was the one that picked everyone that they should go um i know i think haley wanted to go but they didn't pick her because i think that was his wife that that's that's seen when uh she's smoking outside someone opened the door yeah and then way back i think that was his wife uh so i don't know i mean i i get it i mean if they didn't choose her but she all her and her mom when uh went down to wow and they did some stuff and they were kind of like I mean we're not you're not just exclusive to us you can go to other promotions
Starting point is 00:19:19 if need be if you need it because like yeah letting them go to the dark matches for AEW I thought that was cool I did feel bad for them because I was like yeah I'm gonna let him go and they're gonna have a good time and everything he goes but I feel bad because it doesn't it doesn't help their career Yeah, because you're just going to lose. Yeah, I mean, basically, I don't want to call him jobbers,
Starting point is 00:19:42 but he did kind of say, like, yeah, they're just doing a job, and then they're coming back. They're trying to make their up-and-coming stars good. But, I mean, it didn't seem like these guys like, no, fuck that. I don't want to go there and do that. I mean, they did it. I'm sure they got paid good and everything, too. But, I mean, they didn't come back.
Starting point is 00:20:00 Oh, man, that was a waste of time. No, they were like, no, I was fun, man. Cool. I'll do it again if they need me. Sure. to find what her Haley's boyfriend was because when they went to wow and he got to see like the little
Starting point is 00:20:12 skits or whatever vignettes they were filming he was just like look at these horrors he got looking like horrors I hate women's wrestling yeah and he was straight out with it too yeah he wasn't like he just like nah he
Starting point is 00:20:28 I didn't like him at all yeah his little Facebook designs I could put my t-shirts out and sell them all if I wanted to I was like then why why don't you then i know i was like fuck you i didn't like that for at all he just thought he was too raw and he didn't like the little shot he was throwing a cash flow like the thing you were saying and then i had to talk to the fans oh am i supposed to be cash flow yeah oh there was another guy i liked him uh the good reverend ronny roberts he was oh they did him
Starting point is 00:20:59 they did they didn't want him in that one town because it was his reverend gimmick yeah Yeah. What do you? What can you do? I like what he was like, what are you talking about? Then they showed a clip of him in the previous town of like jirating and whatever. Yeah, I was like, come on. But yeah, what the hell is that guy's name?
Starting point is 00:21:26 I'm trying to find. Okay, I went to OVW Wrestling.com, everyone. Let me see if that guy's on this roster. I hate that, hated that fool. Yeah, Ryan, Ryan Von Rocket, that's the guy I liked. He was the rocker dude. He was awesome.
Starting point is 00:21:52 The Dark Reverend? Did he change his? Yeah, I think he was the Dark Reverend. I think that's what the issue was because he wasn't a regular Reverend. He was the Dark Reverend. Because you remember they did that, they filmed that thing for the
Starting point is 00:22:12 pay-per-view when they're going to hell to wrestle I don't think this guy is on with them anymore I don't see him on the roster on their website was that where Alicia Fox went I wonder what happened there
Starting point is 00:22:35 is she with them she's on their roster the fighting siren oh no that's not her oh I was to say that ain't her that's Alicia Fox I was there was baddie laelie gray she was pretty hot yeah that dude's not on here we got cash flow the baddie la gray certified luke curtis the queen of the north uh phara the phara the slayer a
Starting point is 00:23:00 mr peccatcular that's a good i swear i've seen him pop up somewhere the indian lion uh mahabel mahaboli shira i think that's i say his thing uh holly hood hailey jay i mean i thought she did good and everything when they had that death match i'm sure they probably showed more but man i see that was the part that i was kind of like owl kept going no no no no with all the stuff they were saying and that's why i was kind of like is this like a scripted documentary or what but i don't know i don't think so but i get it he he he just didn't be talking about during during the matches yeah that's how they that's how they that's how they that's they do matches.
Starting point is 00:23:47 They communicate to. No, before they were doing the matches, because when they were saying they wanted to use plate glass, and he was like, no, we ain't doing that. Oh, I think that was him. I think Al was just old school. And since he calls the shots and books the matches, I think he's like,
Starting point is 00:24:06 because there was another thing they were trying to do. And he was like, no, we're not doing that. Yeah, I was just, um, hold on my wife is texting me she's like name a woman and I name the one number one in my heart other than my wife
Starting point is 00:24:31 like a movie star with no writer well I mean it was how I mean I loved what he was doing but it felt like he was going to have like a heart attack because he was
Starting point is 00:24:49 I mean, I think it was just more worried about the promotion. Like, they didn't have like capacity crowds every, every week. And then they're like, yeah, man, we sold tickets. We only sold like 75. And then there was only like 2,200 people that showed up. Like, that's a lot of people. Even 75 is a lot of people. I've been to shows here locally, not in this town, but when I go to Reno,
Starting point is 00:25:19 know when they have them i've been there may i think a hundred maybe at the most i know they filled the last one i went to they filled up one side of a gym amazing they only had the bleachers open on one side um and then they had some chairs and everything on the floor i mean it was pretty packed in there there's just so many times you just feel bad for what's going on like the pay-per-view the the first one they tried to do yeah when they were like we need 500 pay-per-view buys to be profitable, but we're only hoping for around 300. And then they get the final numbers. And it was like 74.
Starting point is 00:25:56 Yeah. I was like, there was one tonight. I was trying to race home and make it in time because I wanted to help. I wanted to help out. I wanted to watch it, but I didn't make it home in time. It was only 20 bucks, too.
Starting point is 00:26:09 That's not like WWE. And it was like 80 or something like that. But I mean, I'm going to be on their mailing list because I'd watch more. of this because I really liked it sold it this documentary sold it to me on I want to see these these young women and these
Starting point is 00:26:29 these young cats out there doing it I say young because I'm sure I'm older than majority of them but I wanted to see more of them. The rest of the roster Dreamgirl Ellie they didn't I don't think they showed her Cal Hero the Sultan of the Sky
Starting point is 00:26:45 Blanco Locco the veterans Jack is he the little short guy I don't know these are just pictures I don't remember um oh Shannon the dude who was he was he I know he was a commentator but is he like
Starting point is 00:27:02 a former wrestler or I think he's just a commentator that talks a lot of shit he basically I think he's like the Corey Graves okay uh he had shirts and everything because people had the dude shirts uh Adam revolver
Starting point is 00:27:18 Mac attack Joe Mac, Ryan von Rocket, Truth Magnum, that's a cool name. Turbo Floyd. Let's be a tag team. Certified Luke Curtis. Big Al, Alice Crowley. She's a kiddie. I like her.
Starting point is 00:27:34 PJ Jones. The Demon Child, ZDP, the Dark Reverend. Oh, there he is. Nephlin, Des Moons Solvano, I think, as they say his name.
Starting point is 00:27:48 Big Beef, from Narl's Gravy, Garvin, Big Zo, The Hustler, the Jit Bundles. I showed I got smoking weed during the whole seven episodes. He'd just be in the back. I don't think he ever wrestled. The star of the show, Star Rader, I don't remember him. Mani Domingo, The Future.
Starting point is 00:28:10 That's the little dude. Oh, that's the little dude. Oh, is that his name? Yeah. The Future, Will Austin. Uh, the Spark, Jada Stone. the 80s baby T.TW3
Starting point is 00:28:22 Big Whiskey Jared Capriky I think He don't look very big You look skinny But anyway Maxo Suav
Starting point is 00:28:32 Jay De Niro Nekeem the Dream Crystal Who crystal white Or Kate Gannon I don't remember them And Carson Drake Yeah where were they at
Starting point is 00:28:45 Oh here's more The Mammoth Devon Cecil Bad country, Andrew Williams, Ty Vance, Tyler Lee, deputy, the king of Mardi Gras, who barred, I don't even try to pronounce
Starting point is 00:29:01 the last name, an Appalachian queen, Judy Ray. I don't remember seeing her. She looks cute. Yeah, they were, like he said, they only focused on a few of the women. Yeah, I mean, it was mainly Haley J. and her mom. So, but, I mean, But for me overall, I mean, it was a really, really good documentary series. I mean, it was like once, as soon as one episode was over, boom, I went right to the next one.
Starting point is 00:29:29 And I mean, I enjoyed it. I thought it was really good. I mean, the, what's his name, the Indian wrestler guy? His story of him just loving wrestling as a kid, watching it, finally getting into the business. And yeah, going to WWE, doing other things. and then just getting cut. But, I mean, he did say, he goes, yeah, when I got cut, he goes, like, I felt bad and down,
Starting point is 00:29:59 like, my career is over with. But then he was like, no, man, I'm going to keep doing it. And he kept doing it. He was the OVW champ. I didn't like that part. I mean, because it just reminds me of WWE. I always go to when the rock took the bell from CM Punk. We'll talk to him about him at the end of this.
Starting point is 00:30:18 but it was like what's his name was it Johnny Storm was I as a guy James James he came in and just took they were they were getting their this whole episode this whole seven episodes they were gearing up to their final pay-per-view
Starting point is 00:30:39 or the summer called the big one they kind of did like a road tour of just playing or doing a show at fairs at festivals and at one point they went and just set up in the park across street from wherever russomania was going to be um and they were just trying to be out there and they were doing it i mean were they making tons of money doing this i don't think so because that matt joan guys made it seem like they were losing money doing this whole
Starting point is 00:31:09 thing yeah there was uh i forgot which episode with it but there was a group of wrestlers that went to ow and they were like we haven't been paid yet and he's have telling them it's going to happen i give i give you my word it'll happen it'll happen soon and i think the matt match the matt guy the owner i think he said he was losing tens of thousands of dollars a month and i think it was mostly because of the putting on the radio or not the radio show television show weekly uh yeah i don't know how much he i don't know how much any of that costs and where they were getting the money from and everything. I mean, I'm sure there was other investors in it
Starting point is 00:31:52 because they were talking about people that you can come promote your business by just putting your banner around the ring or in the background and everything. So they were hustling, man. They were trying to make their money. I mean, all of it seemed like all the wrestlers, the ones that were focusing on, they seemed like everyone worked at Holiday Inn.
Starting point is 00:32:11 But, I mean, they were still working. I think what's her name? Ran it, Haley's mom? yeah so I'm sure she was like if you need the job I liked her I mean she was a little rough and rugged but I don't know what it was I liked her
Starting point is 00:32:24 I thought she was cool uh and they all had she had a rough rough laugh she was just a single mom trying to trying to make to ends meet couldn't jobs weren't really paying much so she started selling drugs and she had to go
Starting point is 00:32:41 she had to go to prison uh and everything and it seemed like like Haley, her daughter, Haley didn't seem like they didn't have that good of a relationship.
Starting point is 00:32:51 I mean, they were like cordial with each other and yeah, mom and there's my daughter and everything, but Haley always had a bunch of shit to say,
Starting point is 00:32:58 but I mean, that was legit stuff to say. I mean, my, I was being raised by this drug dealer and everything going on. And when my mom
Starting point is 00:33:05 went to prison and then I had my kid when I was really young, she had, she was a single mom. Was it a little boy or I was a little boy she had? said she had her son when she was really, really young when she was a teenager.
Starting point is 00:33:20 And there was, I think she said they had a brother. Yeah. But they, was that him sitting in the background every time they were talking to the mom? No. I don't think the brother is around. Or at least doesn't want to be on camera. Because there was some young guy. Every time Maria was talking, he was sitting behind her.
Starting point is 00:33:44 I think he was a wrestler. Oh, okay. But, I mean, the law, everyone had a story to tell. And they, again, they were only focusing on a handful of them. Probably just the ones who had a good story, I guess. I mean, I did like the mom and daughter one. And they were leading up to, they had their death match.
Starting point is 00:34:11 And, I mean, Haley said it, though. she was like a lot of my anger towards my mom came out in that match. Not so much of her beating with shit, but when she was yelling at her mom just yelling the stuff she was saying. She was like, yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:29 it was kind of scripted, but it was a lot of it was from my heart for the frustration that she had for her mom being raised and how she was raised with her mom doing her dirt that she was doing. I was like goddamn. But yeah,
Starting point is 00:34:47 I mean, Maria, she was old school because when they were getting ready for it, they were all right, we're going to use this. We're going to use that. They had one of those little soft bats and then they had duct tape around it and then they put tacks all the way in it. And then Maria was
Starting point is 00:35:03 sitting there cutting little pieces of metal and sticking it and the tape that was wrapped around her wrist so she could blade herself. I was like, Oh, hell no. And Haley was like, I can't do that to myself. I'd rather just have it be natural, get hit with something, then the blood come out.
Starting point is 00:35:22 She goes, I'm not bleeding myself or cutting myself or anything. Yeah, I'll give it to those guys that do that. I don't know. I have to, I have, I have, I have, I have, um, psoriasis on my legs. And I have to take an injection every month. I hate doing that. I mean, I'll sit there for like 10 minutes before I even finally push that button for the for the click and
Starting point is 00:35:44 stab me. I mean, that's how I hate needles and I don't like, I don't like paper cuts or anything, but I couldn't imagine on purpose blading myself just for for entertainment. I mean, because some of those guys,
Starting point is 00:36:01 that one dude, he's a black wrestler. His forehead is just like cheese grater. It's a big dude? He was, no, not one of these guys. it was another I mean,
Starting point is 00:36:14 I'm asking it, was he a big guy? Um, I guess. First person that comes in my mind is Abdulah the butcher. Hmm. Or you might,
Starting point is 00:36:26 you could be talking about a, new jack. Yeah, new jack. His forehead, this is like a cheese grater. So, I'm sure that's been getting hit
Starting point is 00:36:37 with stuff at as well as bleeding yourself, but man. Okay. This made me want to watch that movie The Wrestler. We'd have to do that one for a bonus. That's that asshole's name. Eric Darkstorm.
Starting point is 00:36:56 Is it E.R.K. E.R.C. E.R. I.C. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. K. Yeah, here he is. Elusive Eric Darkstorm. Oh. The more elusive member of Dark Clouds, one of the most dominant tag teams in OVW history.
Starting point is 00:37:29 Dark Storm is stealthy and deadly and quiet but violent member of the team. Who wrote that, him? I don't know. It says Al, it says, Al, Snow knows. Dark clouds have stormed OVW like nothing. nothing I have ever seen. Okay. I wanted one of those wrestling shirts that
Starting point is 00:37:51 every with that Al kept wearing. He's got his own little website that sells the merch and everything. They did they they they sold out of those ones. But I do want one of those OVW shirts. I'll help him. I'll support the cause and buy a shirt. I mean, if you can everyone, any, but any
Starting point is 00:38:10 promotion. Help them out, man. I mean, these guys are out there doing it, man. And money's not. falling off the trees for them. So if you, even the wrestlers, if you can buy a shirt, buy a picture or whatever, anything, just help these guys out. I always try to do that. The last one I went to, I bought two Luchidar masks from, oh man, I forgot their names already.
Starting point is 00:38:33 But there was guys that were selling their masks and everything. So, I mean, I always try to help them out. What I can, I don't go overboard with buying all this stuff. But the guys that I like, would I buy something from every, I wish I could have had money falling on my ass But if there's any of you big ballers out there that want to support our show man Please we'll take that check It gets better for this Eric Darkstorm guy
Starting point is 00:38:57 He does music Which is you go by Eric Darkstorm? I think so I just clicked on his Instagram And like there's a video of him I ain't listened to it I don't want to listen to it it looks like he's rapping
Starting point is 00:39:16 he's getting out of car it's not the car that he had on Netflix so I'm assuming this is somebody else's car he's using let me see if I could find some on YouTube okay
Starting point is 00:39:37 I heard enough no no you know I don't like to use the word trash but Sounded like trash I'm listening to it everyone You guys can't hear it but I'm Why didn't they really show him wrestling at all?
Starting point is 00:39:59 They just The most wrestling they showed him doing was the The clips of him younger Yeah I'm good Just listen Just the so Oh man Oh yeah
Starting point is 00:40:18 OVW I'm on their website Join us at every weekly TV broadcast every Thursday 7 to 9 p.m. live at Davis Arena. 4,400 Shepardville Road, Louisville, Kentucky. Purchase tickets. I believe the next tapings are next month, January 4th and January 11th. Let me see how much tickets are for these. Price may vary because there's ringsides and then there's one, two, three.
Starting point is 00:40:53 5, 6, 7, 8. They had an event today as we were recording this, Christmas chaos. That's what I mentioned. I wanted to get home so I can watch it, but I didn't make it home in time. Looks like the most expensive ticket is 25,
Starting point is 00:41:13 rampside seating A, and then ringside, only 20 bucks. That's if you buy your tickets online. General mission is 17, so I assume that's just on the outskirts of everything see if I was to go to something like I always buy ringside when it when it's cheap like this for these uh smaller promotions because the one I went to in Reno yeah they were what do you want to sit in the bleachers I say hell I want to be right in front I think it was only like 20 bucks I didn't care
Starting point is 00:41:42 that was helping the cause too so but yeah man this is I would love to go to these I'd get a ticket right by the ramps to Eric Darkstorm how much trash he is. Said my little, what was her name, Casey? Yeah. They probably just, no, Gracie, they probably just give her ticket. She'll show up. Yeah, man, I would go to this. I want to, yeah, I want to be right there by the ramp. I'm looking at a map.
Starting point is 00:42:13 I want to be right there. There's just on each side of the ramp, there's only two rows, six seats each. So, ring side. There is like one row and then there's a no there's one side has one row the other side has kind of two and the other one the other side of the ring has three and then I'm sure all the seats on the background. January 6 OVW nightmare rumble.
Starting point is 00:42:40 Is it there must be their version of the Royal Rumble. Is it um like can you watch this stuff online or you probably best bet would have to go fighttv.com. I know that's the word. I think you can pay for a lot of the indie pay-per-views or PLEs or whatever they're calling
Starting point is 00:43:06 now. I mean, just the like the weekly shows. Oh, the weekly? Yeah. I'm sure there might be ways to look. Because I would want to, I want to watch this. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:43:28 Join our weekly It doesn't say how. Okay, here's more. The broadcast team. Brian Kinnison, lead commentator, dancing Stevie J. Color commentator. Okay. Oh, that was a crazy guy that's sitting in the middle.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Josh Ashcraft. Ashcraft. Eric Cornish. A.J. McKay. Linda Kay. I don't remember seeing her, but all right. OV.V.W. staff. Doug.
Starting point is 00:44:02 Basham. Basham. Remember the basham? Yeah, okay. That was one of them. Maria James. Jesse Morris. Referees, Daniel Spencer,
Starting point is 00:44:15 Shane Chess, Charlene McKenzie, Jay Cloud. Ownership. Al Snow, Dr. Jeff Tolman, Craig Greenberg. That was the other guy,
Starting point is 00:44:27 remember. Craig Greenberg. He was kind of like one of the silent guys in the background. Matt Jones, Barry Ben's Joe Reeves That is everyone Oh let me just talk about how that one episode
Starting point is 00:44:39 With Matt Jones the owner Oh When he had a seizure Yeah I didn't know what was because I thought he was Making faces at the guy Telling him if you have a problem You just need to go to Al
Starting point is 00:44:56 So I was like why is he making these faces And then it took me like a second I was like oh shit he's having a fucking see sure because they were they were telling them like calm down man what's because he was starting to get bad but it was again it was about money and you wanted he wanted it to be his direction but they mean al was kind of like nah man he you can't talk to them like that because he was he wasn't talking to them he was talking like down at him mm-hmm how i told him like with this group of people somebody's going to beat your ass yeah because i was gone man did this put a slow as
Starting point is 00:45:37 roll man i mean these guys don't play man if that one asshole got in his face probably would have just knocked him out i mean even hey the jay she probably would have clocked him not to interrupt you but ovw tv on youtube oh is that where we can watch it yeah it looks like they post uh weekly episodes in full. All right, let me subscribe to that right now. OVW TV episode 1264.
Starting point is 00:46:16 Looks like almost two hour video. Well, I'll give it a week or so before they put the whole. No, they already put the hole. No, that was, it says two days ago. That was the nightmare before Christmas chaos. I don't know what it was, but all right, I get to
Starting point is 00:46:36 watch. watch these guys and gals in action yeah because it's good you know we were talking about wanting to support the pay-per-views but it's good that we can watch the weekly shows to see how the the storylines build that's a big gal the charlene ref girl she's getting it oh man she looks like
Starting point is 00:47:00 she's a big gal look like she's a big gal look like she'd fuck me up see again i've been to i mean of course big big w w and all that but and the little small ones i've been to i mean they record them and they just throw on a video like hood slam going to that you guys for those either in the bay that they go to that or if you ever just be in the bay and they happen to be there i mean definitely go check out hood slam it's like the first friday of every month I got a wrestler name like cereal man or something. They got all kinds of crazy. The last one I went to was
Starting point is 00:47:42 glam. Gorgeous something ladies, whatever. I can't remember what it was called. I only went because my girl Desi Derrata was wrestling when she was part of the Arrow Club. Oh, I know her. I was watching
Starting point is 00:47:56 her. That video is on YouTube and you see I got my minutes of fame. or a few seconds of fame in that video because after she would, she rolled all the way over to me and gave me a hug. And I was happy for her too. So, but
Starting point is 00:48:13 it was good to see her in action. Well, this is a battle royal or something going on. One of the gals, she's come in as Mrs. Claus with her belt. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:48:30 see, yeah, we need to watch one of these and then come on and talk about it because yeah I mean again they only focus on so many of them and we really didn't get to see a lot of the I mean they show clips of them wrestling and training and everything but we didn't get to see like full matches
Starting point is 00:48:48 and all that so yeah like the what's the rock star guy it is Ryan something yeah they they never showed him wrestle no they did show him a lot Ryan Vaughn Rocket they didn't they showed him a lot and he was always cool talking he's that a real accent no because there's times where he's just talking regular i think that was his first gimmick oh okay but he seemed like a locker
Starting point is 00:49:15 room guy like he keeps everybody cool in the locker room he's he's cool guy to go talk to something's going on yeah and it seems like he just kept the the smiles on everyone's face yeah cracking jokes and everything come on where's haley jay there's cash flow he's throwing fools around. Is it intergender battle royal? No, no, I'm just kind of scamming the... Oh. Oh. Who is that? There's some gals off on the side. I don't know if the wrestlers, but one of them, one of the ladies has
Starting point is 00:49:53 snowman heads over her boobs. Oh. Oh. Okay. I don't know what's happening. I don't know what's going on here. It's Christmas. Yeah. festive. Oh, who is this? Oh, these are the bigger gals. Oh, man. Yeah, everyone. I mean, I'm just scrolling through this episode, and I'm looking for, for Haley J. Maybe she's at the end. But, I mean,
Starting point is 00:50:25 this is cool, man. I like what they do, man, and it's, they're out there doing it. And a weekly show that's on TV for everyone. And it's in their area, that's, that's cool. And I don't know how much that cost But it looks fun I mean it looks like a legit thing and I mean I wish I could go To something like this Every every
Starting point is 00:50:48 Every week Yeah I mean Support your local stuff Because I used to have local shit here In Alaska What's his name used to run a school up here You remember the repo man? Yeah
Starting point is 00:51:01 He used to run a school up here But you know Finances hit him hard eventually and he had to shut the school down and they were putting on like local shows and stuff like that all right well yeah man everyone i mean definitely check out uh if you guys haven't watched it yet uh wrestlers on on netflix it's it was a really good show man and it really it got me interested to watch i mean again there's so many different promotions out there throughout the country as well as on the other parts of the world but i mean i think this this was a good series and i
Starting point is 00:51:38 I hope it does does good for them, gives them good business, and gets them people to watch more of their pay-per-view. It made me want to watch this one, and I just didn't make it home in time. It was only $20, and that's fine with me. But, excuse me, everyone. I want to watch more of this.
Starting point is 00:51:58 And honestly, I think the way the show was formatted and just how invested you can get into the people, I don't think you need to really be into wrestling. to be into the show. Yeah, it's a show that you can just, it was interesting. I mean, for Brian and I, I mean, we're wrestling marks.
Starting point is 00:52:20 Of course, we're going to watch something like this, but I mean, without being, I don't know people that are listening to this that are not wrestling fans, I mean, even if you're not, I mean, you could probably sit there with your girlfriend or your boyfriend that did have nothing to do, don't even like wrestling.
Starting point is 00:52:36 They probably get some enjoyment out of it. it was a well-made documentary series and like i said there was like one episode i was tearing up in there was one episode i was mad because that one guy was an asshole and he was beating his girlfriend and she even said that she goes i fought him too man there was times where um he was slapping no she was slapping him up because he kind of said i don't put my hands on women but i don't know i mean it's tough to say when the heat is on but i don't know i just didn't like it him he just seemed like he was an asshole and he just didn't like women wrestlers talking about eric yeah that fool yeah the guy that completely you can tell he was jealous of her career
Starting point is 00:53:19 yeah he didn't he goes i don't watch her i don't watch her wrestle yeah what kind of because i don't it's women's wrestling i'm like i mean i we say this all the time or i say it all time and I mean even and like the WWE the women go harder than the dudes I mean I don't know it's just just what I see in my opinion but yeah
Starting point is 00:53:48 as we're recording this I think it was AEW collision Thunder Rosa made her return probably got the biggest pop of the crowd for that show good for her man but yeah I mean
Starting point is 00:54:04 wrestling I mean the wrestlers on Netflix, everyone. Definitely check it out. We kind of just gave you some of the stuff. There's more to the show. I mean, we'd be here all night talking about it, but we need to talk about some other stuff that... I don't know, man. W.W.C.m. Punk.
Starting point is 00:54:25 He was making his rounds. He went to the NXT to hype them up. He went over to Smackdown to talk some shit, and it ended up being... on raw but even the the the night after or the night the days is the survivors on Saturday um Monday night raw he key made his return and he was out there talking and he said some stuff yeah but he was straight up about it though because I'm not here to make friends I'm here to make money so I mean it's a business everyone and what the triple eight said I mean even Cody Rhodes like if
Starting point is 00:55:01 this TMP being back is good for business then right on all win. So you're going to get one of those hell froze over t-shirts? I think I got my other one somewhere that might that other CM puncture. I do want one though but they're quick with that one too.
Starting point is 00:55:21 Oh yeah they did. He said it was it boom. It's like they say it and it just comes out of a machine in the back instantly. I got my there's no video to this show everyone got my Monday night mommy shirt right here
Starting point is 00:55:38 it just opened it and you know hats off for her you know Dom lost the North American NXT North American title and she put a nice little thing on
Starting point is 00:55:51 Twitter about not Dom the not dirty Dom the character but Dominic the the person the the wrestler the guy behind the character about how he's worked hard and stuff like that and I thought that was a nice thing.
Starting point is 00:56:07 Yeah, what are they in Australia for? I see that both of them are there. They're promoting, I think, I could be wrong. I think elimination chambers coming there. Okay. So they're doing like promo for it.
Starting point is 00:56:23 Okay. I assume Buddy Murphy's there somewhere, or did he stay home? He's somewhere sitting backstage in the AEW. she poses to a picture
Starting point is 00:56:38 I don't she just does that just to tease me I don't know if she was on her underwear or whatever I was like god damn Dirty Downs right there with her yeah they're doing their thing but yeah I did watch
Starting point is 00:56:54 who was a deadline The only matches I was really excited for was Dirty Downs they ended up losing the belt And then Baron Corbin at the end
Starting point is 00:57:06 come on bring back a hobo baron carven that was oh bobby carbon that was my favorite why did they boot him down to nxtt just uh i honestly i think
Starting point is 00:57:23 they did the thing where they pulled too many wrestlers from nxte so now they need to send some more established people down there I just think they pull some wrestlers too soon. Like, I think they're already pulling, Carmelo Hayes. Already?
Starting point is 00:57:45 Because I think he wrestled on Smackdown. Because I think he's in that United States tournament thing. And they pulled, they pulled, what's her name? And she barely's been on TV, Indie Hartwell. They brought her up. damn just pulling fools left or right yeah but uh i was a little bummed that dom dropped the bell but whatever's best for business i guess maybe him and him and the tribal chief next uh i don't know what's up with that uh roman the jimmy thought he was going to be the next tribal
Starting point is 00:58:27 chief that was hilarious he took his jacket off was just getting ready to be acknowledged, I guess, you could say. And he said, your brother. And I thought he was going to say Jay. I thought Jay was going to come out. That's what I was thinking, too.
Starting point is 00:58:45 But if you rewatch it, watch Paul Hammond's face when Jimmy takes the jacket off. And Paul's looking at him, like, what the hell are you doing? Oh, man. Solo. tribal chief.
Starting point is 00:59:03 I guess they might be teasing Jimmy leaving again. I don't know. Okay. I think they need to start bringing in some of these younger members of the family that wrestle in the Indies. Yeah, here he is. He's hyping him up.
Starting point is 00:59:27 Jimmy. Thinking he's all raw. He's like, yeah, it takes his jacket off. He's hyped up. Like, yeah. See Paul's face? Right here. You can't hear me. He can't hear it, boy.
Starting point is 00:59:43 Oh, he just told him. So, oh, man, yeah, Paul Heyman. Look at it. And Jimmy, it may just like, all right, whatever, bro. Let me just step back and bite my lip. Of course, you know, these teams always break up.
Starting point is 01:00:08 But is Roman taking a break for a while? Is he going to make movies or what's he doing? I think he's going to take a break And I think I read he's not going to be back on Smackdown To like a couple weeks before Royal Rumble Put him down to stay away from punk I saw that video that he put out He was like, I don't like the guy
Starting point is 01:00:30 But if he's what's best for business and what makes money Then I'm cool, whatever But I don't like him I don't know what can you do everyone but you know the one they're building too though oh yeah see that's what i want to know i mean you kids i mean other than punk come making his rounds and being on raw
Starting point is 01:00:55 that monday after survivor series but actually didn't even um raw ralans he stepped into the ring and all right i don't know you guys want to hear it and all this and he's an asshole or you say that that was basically what he was saying. Punk said to these Rollins is not even the man of his household. I know. So
Starting point is 01:01:15 if it was a work, good job. But you can see that there is some kind of bad blood between both of them because when they finally got in the ring together on this last Monday Night Raw
Starting point is 01:01:31 they were like face to face staring at each other. And I don't know if Rollins had heels on because I remember they were saying he's sick something and so was punk. And Rollins was clearly taller than him, but I don't know. This is what happened. Rollins went in to see Triple H and said he doesn't like the guy.
Starting point is 01:01:58 I'm not wrestling him. He shouldn't be here. This is what I think happened. And Triple H wrote a number on a piece of paper and slid it to Rollins. It was like, that's what you're going to be making. I'm sure punk's they probably would tell him how much he's getting
Starting point is 01:02:16 he had been paid a lot punk knows what he's making before he even came back yeah and I'm pretty sure they gave him that look man we know what happened over AEW and that shit can't fly here you can talk shit all you want
Starting point is 01:02:32 and everything but don't don't do what you did there with everyone because I'm sure he said there's probably going to be even punk knows there's going to be a lot of bad blood when I come back. I'm sure he had that conversation with AJ over and over and over. And then he's just finally, all right, I'm going to do it.
Starting point is 01:02:50 I'm going to take this check. And like he said, I'm not here to make friends. I'm here to make money. And I'm sure he's getting plenty of money to do what he's doing. And now he's on Raw. I would have rather have them been on Smackdown, but, no, Raw seems to be the bigger, the bigger brand. Yeah, they're just because they're building Twitter. Is that punk rollins match?
Starting point is 01:03:14 So yeah, they finally just face to face. Punk was talking shit like, yeah, if I win, when I go in and win the Royal Rumble, I might come after you or I might go after someone else. But we know it's going to be Rollins and punk. And just make it a good match. Somebody on YouTube piece together. and I think it was like title on this is what you want and it was all
Starting point is 01:03:43 the mistakes that punk was making when he was in AEW everybody makes mistakes man but yeah I mean you can go make a video of all the mistakes Roman is made and look where he's at now
Starting point is 01:03:59 yeah so I mean everybody that guy said suffering and succotash somebody wrote that and he said that everybody makes mistakes nobody's perfect we all can't be mr perfect he even mr perfect wasn't perfect rest in peace but he'd always smack that gum every time he spit it out i mean it's again i mean yeah i'm sure rollins was mad and a lot of people were mad
Starting point is 01:04:32 but i don't know i mean i doubt i know kevin owens was uh the eyeball and punk and that one little thing when he was walking down the hall he's kind of hey what's up and then kind of glared at him and walk out i'd like to see that too i like they mix it up though because it's just not every wrestler that comes up to him has a problem because did you see the nxte thing i think it was an incorrigade yeah yeah that was a nice thing he did for her telling her you know she's basically the next the next up god damn she's fine i'm sorry She's so fine. Yeah, even she made a mistake.
Starting point is 01:05:12 We all remember the broken skateboard gimmick. She's going to hit somebody and her skateboard fell apart before she hit her. Well, you can't hit no one with no hard skateboard. I'll tell you right now. Have I hit someone on my skateboard? I swung it. I didn't hit him. But speaking of that, did you ever see that video?
Starting point is 01:05:34 I don't know where they were downtown, any town USA. I don't know where they were, but there were some guys in the argument. And the guy, he was arguing with these skateboarders. I don't know why. I mean, you always come in in the middle of the video, middle of our altercation. But that's one of those videos. You always start in the middle of somebody screaming. That guy that wasn't the skateboarder pushed one.
Starting point is 01:06:02 And all the other dudes jumped up into it. And I think he punched one of the guy. But the first guys that he pushed he kind of did a side step came around with that skateboard and Whap hit him in the head trucks first and that dude just dropped and then all those skateboarder guys took off I've seen guys get hit with skateboards and fights skate parks or whatever Man I wouldn't want to get hit with one of these things man these things are heavy even if you just got hit with the board alone but to get hit with the trucks hell no man
Starting point is 01:06:38 but in my younger years yeah and when I didn't get a give a fuck but now I ain't going to jail hitting some little punk kid that was talking shit
Starting point is 01:06:46 or anybody but was it like an older dude they got hit yeah yeah because he probably was doing that I hate it so much
Starting point is 01:06:57 these videos are these old I'm sorry I'm not I'm not talking down on older people but it just happens to be older people that are always stopping skaters from skating where they're out
Starting point is 01:07:07 and you even got some videos where they're like physically like kicking their board out from under don't do that oh let's see did you find it skateboarder hits man let me see oh here it is you send it to you because this is wild
Starting point is 01:07:28 yeah I hate those videos always you can't skate here you can't skate here they can't skate there then go get somebody that's going to handle the situation, not take the situation and I hate that. Let me see, hold on. How do I?
Starting point is 01:07:51 I'll hear this. All right. I'm saying, watch this video doing this shit. It's just, just get wild. But, oh, man. Yeah, man. Mind your peas and cues, man. Some of these skateboarders will lose it on you. I've seen it in real way
Starting point is 01:08:10 Yeah, I have to But oh man But yeah punk I don't want an AEW I want him just to do Do what he does And we'll see how it goes And like I said I want to see a good match between
Starting point is 01:08:31 Rollins and punk Don't just go out there Damn Yeah And he was a little guy, too, the swung that skateboard. What's that guy going to do at the end? I don't know. It's like trying to chase somebody with a chair.
Starting point is 01:08:49 They're gone. Oh, yeah, they did. They're taking up a chair. They're gone. No, those fools jumped on their boards and they're out of there. Make it a good match. Well, obviously won't be at the Royal Rumble. I'd say, if anything, WrestleMania.
Starting point is 01:09:07 So if we're saying punk and Rollins at WrestleMania Who who's gonna wrestle Roman? Because you know Roman's gonna keep the belt at least until WrestleMania He's gonna come in and interfere Watch In the The Rollins punk match? Yep The best way for him Part of the bloodline
Starting point is 01:09:33 No he'll just come in and Oh want to fight both of them Oh, he'll wear his one t-shirt, Rick everyone and leave. What would be awesome if the shield music hits and he comes walking through the crowd. I heard what's his name?
Starting point is 01:09:51 It's blackballed. No, I mean, he doesn't, he don't have to come back. Because remember, this was years ago. I can't remember who Seth Rollins was wrestling. Oh, he's wrestling in Roman. Is that who it was when he came out? And the shield
Starting point is 01:10:08 The shield music is trying to get in Roman's head He came out in the outfit Or I like that one When uh Mox well Ambrose at the time When uh they were already broke up Everyone was kind of doing singles
Starting point is 01:10:26 And um They were they uh they power bombed somebody I can't remember who they power bomb Because all three of them were there And they hated Rollins and then he tried to do the shield fist thing and they just looked at him sideways and then they started beating the hell out of him
Starting point is 01:10:43 I love the shield I still have my shield t-shirts I still have my shield hoodie everything man can always bring back honorary member Kurt Angle huh oh did you remember that one
Starting point is 01:11:00 I think it was during raw um uh Roman was standing there It was when he was still wearing the all black and everything. And some fan jumped into the ring and stood up next to him wearing his shield with the shield wear. Do you remember that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:11:18 You think they would ever make a new shield? Like Rollins, like, finds, like, two other people and tries to do the shield thing? No. I mean, I don't want that. If it ain't the real shield, I don't want it. I don't give me no imitators. but I don't know we'll see but as far as punk
Starting point is 01:11:38 and Rollins again I want a good match make it a good match don't half-ass it and I'm sure the build-up to it will probably be better than the match but I don't know we'll see and as far as punk
Starting point is 01:11:53 winning the Royal Rumble I would love that but I don't think the fans would love it because everyone would expect him to win and and everything. Of course, these are all predetermined and everything, but I don't know. I mean, don't come in in number one and then win like Edge did, which was fun.
Starting point is 01:12:20 I was happy when Edge did that. He came in number one and still won. But I don't know. I just, I don't want that. Don't do that. He can't be 30 and win either. No. Come in.
Starting point is 01:12:35 maybe number eight in the middle come in and if you're going to win then you're going to win I'm saying eight because I don't know I mean he's I'm sure he's in way way better shape than I am
Starting point is 01:12:49 he looks in better shape than he was in a w yeah so I don't I don't know we'll see how old is coming in he's coming in number eight and he's going to win because of interference from AJ making her return
Starting point is 01:13:06 Okay I'm seven years older than punk He's 45 Um Where's it say how tall is he Says 6 2 Oh no His height 6 2
Starting point is 01:13:24 He's 6 2 That's what it says here on Wikipedia He seems like 510 on TV Uh I know he's taller than me Because when I met him okay he's six two let's see what set ralins is
Starting point is 01:13:39 um shit i clicked on the wrong thing uh let me see what he has to say on Wikipedia he is 6 1 okay he he must have had
Starting point is 01:14:04 he he must have had heels on or something because he was what is randy then because he seemed like a giant next to them Randy orton he is he's got six five he's six five he sat on yeah because
Starting point is 01:14:22 Randy looks huge now what happened to him again I thought it was his shoulder but I guess it was his neck his neck and his back like somewhere in that area that it was kind of kind of like
Starting point is 01:14:38 considering maybe not coming back one of those type of injuries damn roman rains is 6 3 he was tall when i met him i know he was way taller than me man well that makes sense because him and uh randy had a face off yesterday and randy look a little bit taller all right everyone we'll see what's uh to come
Starting point is 01:15:07 but definitely everyone check out wrestlers that's on netflix and uh support uh vw go to oviw go to o W.OVW.O.W.Ressling.com. Pick up a t-shirt. And did I have my size? Because I do want one of these. And go to OVWTV on YouTube and subscribe. Oh, man. I guess I got to lose some weight. Biggest size I have is 3X. Man. Come on, man. There wasn't no skinny guys in that building.
Starting point is 01:15:40 Well, there was, but I saw some fat guys in there. Come on. Help us out Thinking of that I need to lose weight bad everybody I just Gained sitting at home Well I couldn't fucking do anything man I'm open oh I'm up and walking now
Starting point is 01:15:59 Without crutches I went to the movies I went to the doctor and they They show you give me an x-ray And it's It's grown But the bone that broke It's it grew
Starting point is 01:16:14 It's back together together. It's slightly off, he said, but not enough to, like, for me to pain to feel it or anything. Because he showed me the x-ray. He goes, look, he goes, this is how it was before and this is how it is now. He goes, look, he goes, it looks like there's a small little step. He goes, but it's fine. He goes, you're okay. If there's issues, come back. He goes, but as far as what I want you to do now is start walking on it. He goes, don't go overboard, but just walk on it. I was okay so fuck me my dumb ass the very next day I went to the movie to the movies and I walked into the movie theater just from my truck to the theater oh fuck dude my leg was killing me so you're not you're not ready for spinning back kicks yet no not yet man I mean I was like I was all Jews I was ready to step I haven't stepped on my skateboard in two months and that's thing with that's what's itching me the most um and I was like I was like I was like oh man, I went, got in, watched the movie, left, and then we didn't do anything else.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Oh, we went to my friend's house, but we were just sitting in there. I used my crutches then. I was like, shit, I should have just took my crutches in when I was walking into the theater. But, oh, fuck, man. I got home and I put my foot up. It looked like it swelled a little, but not too much. But my calf muscle was burning. I was like, ah.
Starting point is 01:17:44 And then I was like, shit. So I didn't do too much. I have a stationary bike, and the doctor told me, he was why advise you to sit on that thing and start riding? Don't go overboard. Don't make it too stressful for you, but you need to build that muscle back up in your leg. I mean, because I was sitting there, I would take the boot off and kind of just bend my foot back and forth to keep the muscles. He goes, you need to do that.
Starting point is 01:18:09 He goes, it may hurt a little, but just do what you can. I can move my foot way better than I did. I could barely try to make my foot straight and it just fucking burned. It would hurt. Because that was when the bone was still cracked. And I asked him, I said, is it, is it
Starting point is 01:18:25 possibility for it to break again? Like now he goes, excuse me. He said yes. He goes, that's why I'm saying, don't go overboard. Don't go dancing or doing whatever you're doing. Don't go rock climbing or anything. And I said, so no, ride my
Starting point is 01:18:41 skateboard he goes I advise against it but I'm too scared to step on my board now I'm gonna give it another few months I go back to work next month so I'm gonna just start riding this this bike doing a little walking I did some walking today I had my crutches on but I did do some I walk around in the house and it's it's not it's not bad because I'm going from like my chair to the bathroom or something but I don't know I'm getting back there everyone and everyone that reached out right on thanks but oh man i was going nuts and the other than just sitting here watching movie after movie and tv shows eating and i just i could just feel it i'm like i need to get back i need to get back to my fighting weight and everything and oh man speaking of
Starting point is 01:19:35 movies did you see godzilla not yet oh dude everybody if you guys haven't seen godzilla minus one go see that shit it was fucking awesome it was hell good i saw it twice i saw just regular theater then the other day we went on imax and it was hell aloud which i thought it was amazing it's it's one of the best films of the year everyone nice then that and that that kong versus godzilla or whatever trailer came out trash i'm gonna see it of course but I was like, fuck, man. I mean, the original, the Japanese guys that made this film, it was one of the best Godzilla movies. There's like a billion different Godzilla movies out of the Japanese ones, not this American bullshit.
Starting point is 01:20:27 And this is right up there with it. I mean, I don't, I love the original, the black and white one. I love King Kong versus Godzilla, the original one, not that last one. um and everything in between all those ones but this one this was awesome because i loved uh the time uh it was a 1945 i believe it was uh after uh america just basically destroyed japan when they when they had to drop the bombs on them and everything it was it was during that after that time and everything and then godzilla coming in and wrecking japan again but oh my god God, it was amazing. Definitely go check that film out, everyone.
Starting point is 01:21:14 But again, wrestlers, Netflix, and we'll see what Punk does once he... So wrestler, Rural Lumble, is that his first match back, or are they going to throw and sprinkle in some stuff on Rawl before that? I mean, they could. I, if it was me, I wouldn't have them. I would have that be the first time he steps into the ring officially. I would just build up to that.
Starting point is 01:21:43 But I don't know if that's what they're going to do. Yeah. I was looking into it to see about going to the Royal Rumble, but it's in Florida. Well, stay with Lance. I don't think he's near where it's at. I think it's in Tampa Bay. St. Petersburg, Florida. I hate when they're doing them.
Starting point is 01:22:14 Why are they putting all these Royal Rumbles in baseball fields? So they can do that stupid zigzag ramp or entranceway thing. I hate that thing. They come out of the dugout and then they run in, then they got to cut that left to the ring. They'll run like two miles to the ring. Yeah. You got to run the outfield from home plate all the way to that center field or something.
Starting point is 01:22:34 I don't know. I want to go, but that's... I don't know anybody in St. Petersburg, Florida. But I know tickets are on sales, so those you that are going, cool, right on. We'll just watch it and then we'll talk about it. Again, wrestlers, everyone, check it out. It's an awesome documentary series. Hopefully they find another promotion and do it again.
Starting point is 01:23:03 I don't know. We'll see. They can do NWA because I heard they're struggling now. or been struggling NWA I haven't heard that in a while National Wrestling Alliance Yeah
Starting point is 01:23:22 Let me see Go to national wrestling alliance Dot com Us his name is running it From uh smashing pumpkins The The singer? Billy
Starting point is 01:23:37 Corgan? Yeah I think he owns it Oh my god He's been taking some heat Um this is new to me I didn't know he well there's a he's in this
Starting point is 01:23:50 oh fuck um Aaron Stevens is that that's not Damien Sandow is it Yes it is Yes it is He's actually pretty good You're welcome There's all kinds of fools in there
Starting point is 01:24:09 Um Where how do you get into this man he just seemed like he was uptight all the time well he he he owned impact for a second and i think that's when they were like ready to get closed down as shit nwa president a globally known multi-platinum musician william patrick corrigan is a lifelong fan and has worked in professional wrestling for decades This is news to me, everyone. I must not keep, especially in pumpkins,
Starting point is 01:24:51 man, and they're all right. I mean, I don't, they're not my cup of tea. There's a few songs that I like, but I, I've never seen them live.
Starting point is 01:25:02 Um, I go, what's the name, Max the Impaler? Your girl, uh, from, uh,
Starting point is 01:25:08 what's her name? From the Viking greatest. Oh, um, God damn it. Um, Look at Maxine Paler. You'll see where she got her gimmick from.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Which role was she in? I'm trying to. I just clicked on roster. NWA champions. Which one is she? Kenzie Pallor. Maxine Pailer. Oh, you ain't know Sarah Logan.
Starting point is 01:25:47 Come on. Sarah Logan said, I'm going to be Maxian Paylor. Vahal. Wallho. So fine. I love her. Come on the show. I'll let you body slam me.
Starting point is 01:26:01 Davey and Sando, Aaron Stevens. You're welcome. Well, shit, man. You'll watch their stuff on YouTube also. Yeah, but fucking, I had no idea that he was a part of this. Because I know he was always talking shit about big business and stuff like that. this was a while ago. I guess he did a a Disney
Starting point is 01:26:32 is Disneyland, I think it was Disney World commercial. It was him and his family. And he's all dressed up. Oh yeah, come to Disney World or whatever. And everybody attacked him. What the fuck? Why are you selling out to Disney and all that? It's the new, Billy. I think he'd be wearing suits to when he shows up in NWA. Get your money, everyone. Yeah, it was. It was just, It was just weird because I knew I heard he was part of the problem in impact and I think he got bought out and then all of a sudden he showed up in NWA so I was like I guess
Starting point is 01:27:11 All right, I'm watching a video He's supposed to be coming out here he come did this was how old is this video watching? Because there's a mac cradona Oh, he shows up he's badass I loved him as Zach Ryder. Uh-oh, here he comes. I'm listening to him. I know you guys can't hear it. He's talking shit to Matt Cardona.
Starting point is 01:27:46 Well, good, man. I mean, I don't have to watch more of this. Again, everyone, I'm not a wrestling guru. I'm looking at Matt Cardona's bio in the roster thing. They call him the savior of NWA. Do you think he would ever come back to, uh, w if he can be mad cardona yeah are he or all right i'll give billy man he he looks like he's he knows what's going on for those you do watch him you guys you probably already know this but
Starting point is 01:28:26 they got chris adonis he used to be chris masterson that remember the master lock yeah he's there too damn man this is crazy you learn something new every day everybody does he got his own shirt really corkid good probably does he's just wearing the zero um i do like that song though i mean i like that simi's a simi's a simi's dream i think so with today and all those other songs on it that melancholy or whatever the hell that one album was that one was there was a couple songs on there i liked but yeah if you go through the roster you'll reckon it'd be like i ain't seen that guy and a minute. Yeah, there's
Starting point is 01:29:11 some, some faces I'm seeing on here. Mike Knox. You remember Mike Knox? Yeah. I mean, good for all these people, man. There's still a lot of doing it. I mean, for those you just know, WWE and all that, I mean,
Starting point is 01:29:27 all our faves aren't always going to be there. I mean, they got to go somewhere. I mean, again, even going to small little wrestling promotions. I mean, when the first RWF, Rural RASL factory
Starting point is 01:29:43 when I went to fucking what's his name was there The Vampire Vampire? Gangrel? He was there. I didn't even know that. And he was like in the main
Starting point is 01:30:03 event. We were just because my buddy's, dude, let's go to this wrestling thing. It's tonight. All right, man. We went. We came in a the middle of the middle of it and it was it was awesome man it was cool to see that and then uh and then fucking gang grills music hit and i was like what and then he came walking out i was like what the fuck's happening in here he did the whole thing man the blood everything spitted it up in the into the air and i was like hell yeah and then afterwards we met him and i was talking to him i was like oh my god it's good to meet you and look in here what's his name still wrestles
Starting point is 01:30:34 uh uh rickie martin from the robert from the robert and roll express still yeah i think his son's a wrestler for nwa too violent jay yeah he shows up too are you juggal those out there you probably already know yeah they were deep into the into the wrestling i remember they had their own little wrestling that thing going on for a while but all right man where's a shaggy too dope you know wrestle think he just got a for cancer. Oh, damn, I didn't know that. I think I read that.
Starting point is 01:31:13 If not, I'm sorry, but. I would like to go to one of those, the gathering, the gathering, the gathering of jugglers. I think I'm too old now. I would just like to go just to see. I saw a little short documentary on it, and I don't want that fago spread all over me, but they're probably. I see this guy, I can't think of his name.
Starting point is 01:31:33 He goes to, like, different, like, basically he goes the wild stuff, like, the gathering of the juggalo's. and he does like little mini documentary YouTube videos he didn't look okay after day one I would like to go just to see because I mean I see the I see the bands and everything that play that and there's a lot of bands that I like I mean I know body count played one time and uh Guar of course uh and everything and I would love to see I'm not that big fan of ICP but I would like to see see them perform and I mean they're fans I mean the juggalo's man Those guys are no joke.
Starting point is 01:32:11 I mean, people laugh at them and everything, but now you got a whole crew of them there, you ain't going to be talking shit while they're beating your ass. But I would like to go just to see what it is. Because it looks like a good time, man. I've been to plenty of music festivals. And it looks like everyone's there to have a good time. But getting the Fago sprayed all over you and then being sticky, hell no, not all day. If it's diet Fago, yeah, spray away because I won't feel sticky.
Starting point is 01:32:39 with the full sugar. No, thank you. But all right, everyone. OVW, Ohio Valley Wrestling. Check out the documentary that's on Netflix. Go to OV Wrestling.com for everything. Go and like them, subscribe, follow them everywhere. Follow, watch their stuff on YouTube.
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Starting point is 01:33:32 THR present stream fiends we dropped a Bronx tale go check that one out and the regular show of course it's go to Horry Returns.com and checking that out. Next action, we got the Equalizer, the original one with the first film. Did you see the third one? No, I was kind of waiting after I can watch it now. I watched the first one, because I was going to watch them in order. I just bought the third one.
Starting point is 01:33:59 Do you download the digital code ones? Do you have a library for that? No, I get mine away. okay i'll say well if you want it man so you can watch it i have i say it's available yeah i did too i tried watching it man but there was no subtitles so i had to stop but any of you guys listening if you guys want my digital code for equalizer three um hit us up man i'll send it to you i don't use them so but with that everyone yeah go over and listen to the horror returns dot com listen to everything we got going on over there and that'll be it but so just be safe out there And if punk wins the World Rumble, I'll be okay with it. I'm a seeing Punk fan. But I know there's going to be a lot of people, ah, bitching and complaining.
Starting point is 01:34:49 And if that happens, we'll come back and talk about it. So, but everyone, be safe out there and come back next time. So until then, party on. And be good to each other. Because the best in the world is back, and the best in the world is standing in the middle of the ring, live in living color in Nashville, Tennessee on a Monday night. and his name is

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