The Horror Returns - The Wrestling Returns: WWE Survivor Series (2021)

Episode Date: December 4, 2021

This episode Brian and Nez talk a little AEW, Impact! Wrestling and run through WWE Survivor Series 2021.   Join The Horror Returns Facebook group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns   Join The Action Returns Facebook group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/841619946357776   Follow The Action Returns on IG and Twitter: Instagram: @theactionreturns Twitter: @action_returns    Join the THR Presents: Stream Fiends Facebook Group. https://www.facebook.com/groups/3860579827402429 Follow THR Stream Fiends on IG: @thrstreamfiends

Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, welcome to another episode of the wrestling returns. WWE Survivor Series 2021. Did it live up to the hype? I mean, was there really hype going into this one? I don't know. I'm a little down. But before we get into it, I'm your host, Brian. With me, as always, is my brother Ness.

What's up, man? I'm good, man. just we're finally getting there everyone. We're slowly, slowly getting there, but we're doing it. But, uh,

man. Um, before we dive in, uh, into this, um, we got to talk WW, or not WWE.

We got to talk AEW. Yes. Uh, the, um, needle dick. Needle dick. Needle dick.

Uh, needle dick would not fly in the W.E. Uh, Maxwell Jacob Friedman, but him and CM Punk going at it. Did that shit went like 18 minutes. And I was like, damn, man.

But it was awesome the way they're going. Obviously building up to what's to come for them. But see, I'm punk, man. I mean, he's still a little rusty in my eyes, but I mean, he's still out there doing it. I mean, that's what, That's what we want. That's what we love.

And we don't care. I mean, a lot of his fans are like, yeah, he's still there. It's just mainly, for me, it's good to see him again in the rank doing what he does. Who knows how much longer he's going to do it. But I'm loving it. I mean, that, that first match with Darby Allen was awesome. Speaking of Darby Allen, he's supposed to be at a con coming up next month. I think it's

Stockton something Khan Just Stockton Con Yeah Lucky Markon up here Arctic Comic Con Got delayed

Until April Um The only I mean other than Darby Allen There's some other people gonna be there But

Um What's his nuts supposed to be there as well. The Prince are Pretty, aka Tyler Breeze. I don't think he's Tyler Breeze anymore. No, he's not. And Fondongo and Curtis Hussey.

Whatever, man. You get to see that there's still out there. But Darby Allen is the one I'm excited for him. Hopefully they can get down there. Not really sure how they run these things at the StocktonCon. It would be the first one that I ever go to. I was supposed to go to L.A. Comic-com, but that didn't work out. So you should see if Steve's going.

I know Steve's been to a few. I think you'll go. He'll probably go to Stockton. I'll hit him up and see. Oh, man. MJF. What did punk say? I said.

I know he has said something. Oh, I know he has said something about him being a less known version of the Miz. Yeah. They were shooting on the Miz and Sina

and the King of Kings. He called Punk. What did he say? He was like, called him PG Punk. Yeah, and I expect you to start talking about a hustle loyalty and respect now. Unlike that other former, other wrestler, I can see you. I was like, whoa, what's going on?

I mean, it's funny that they do that. I mean, they, of course, they got new. I mean, but as far as Vince, I don't think he would let anyone say anything about another company. that's why I sent you that video because there was a few shots sort of shot back there yeah rated our superstar Edge and he was going at it with the Miz

he was saying yeah just because they they mentioned you on other shows um Edge is that just going to lead into is WrestleMania next or is there? They got the fuck of it. It's a new pay-per-view day one on April or not April.

My mind's already in WrestleMania January 1st. Just give us the pay-per-views we have. I mean, stop making up new ones and all that, but whatever. As we're recording this, we're already getting a match that we've already seen before after because I just got done watching a little bit of Smackdown did my boy Sammy wrong

just so Roman could have a match with somebody that he's already had a match with a dozen times I don't know what's going on over there but we still watch it I mean I still get enjoyment

out of it I'm going to go to WrestleMania. I mentioned this on our show on the latest East Society. I don't know which day I'm going to. I wish it would just be back to one one day.

But Vince says they're not making no money and that's why they had all these cuts. Surprising cuts too. There was a couple of the younger stars that

they brought to the main roster for a big push and then like two weeks later they was gone yeah man even edge brought that up and it was yelling at the miss why you were off doing dancing or whatever he goes your friends are here getting fired oh my gosh yeah john morrison yeah johnny drips jib i was like we man but uh nia jacks uh they'd be If you listen, I love you. I don't like the blonde hair, but all right. Follow her on Instagram, but...

I heard she's done. Yeah, I think, I think she is. What's her name, too? At least right now, she seems to be done with wrestling. I want to go to AEW, just so she can wrestle Nile, Nila Rose. Nala Rose will beat that ass, but I would like to see that. but with all these cuts man i mean like two like within what weeks of each other i'm like damn i mean they just clean in house i mean i've said this before

you have all this talent that they're not using and like you said matches over and over and over again. We've seen a bunch of times. I mean, let someone else, put someone else out there. I'm surprised they didn't get rid of ricochet because what they're doing to him. But I see him getting a bigger push soon. I hope. Nobody else.

I mean, I'm like, oh, man. I mean, it's, it's just sad when you have all this talents that you're not even doing anything with. I mean, all the NXC guys and gals, they're out there doing what they're doing. We got that pay-per-view coming. Was it war games or war games? Yeah. That's coming on, is it Sunday or Saturday? Whichever the fifth is, which is.

Saturday. that no Sunday Sunday Sunday yeah yeah but I'm looking forward to that that one's I mean every every NXT pay-per-view is is just badass so hopefully because it's fresh new talent that that wants to prove themselves so they're so they're going to go hard yeah so we'll just see how that that how that all ends up but I mean I don't want them drop it anyone after that or bringing somebody up oh they trust me uh i'm gonna say after war games it's gonna be eosurai and uh what's the one that was just the the big girl that was a champ uh raquel yeah they're gonna bring them i guarantee within the before before the years over

and then do nothing with them give them give them give give push yeah and then just and we don't need eos shirai uh i've always liked her so i i hope they do something more with her i mean don't just throw her up there with oscar and have them go out there for whatever reason and then do nothing after that but i had not seen Oscar on TV for a while I don't know I heard she's just taking a break I mean I don't think that I don't see

them ever getting rid of her maybe she maybe she just said look I need a break because I don't know I don't know I mean Bailey's still out so I've seen her talking shit on Twitter to yeah

forgot who it was they were like posting about a championship a match and then she slid in the comments and was like, I'll beat your head. I was like, Bailey, calm down. I see Bailey. I see Royal Rumble coming back.

Yeah. But the push for big time backs or whatever the hell she calls herself now, but I mean, don't get me wrong. I love Becky Lynch, but come on. How many times do you?

going to give her the belt as well as Charlotte. I mean, I love her too. What's happening? How many times are we going to see this match over and over and over? I mean, it's Charlotte, Becky, Sasha over and over. Just trade belts. Yeah. I don't know.

But before we dive into, uh, Survivor Series with The Man and the Queen Bronson Reed Now he's Jonah Which is cool I mean What's his name?

I didn't realize For some reason I thought he was from New Zealand But he's from Australia He made his debut at TNA. For some reason, I thought he was going to AEW, but that didn't work out.

I like this move because they've been, a lot of these companies have been kind of working with each other, so I kind of see not everybody has to go to AEW, you know, they can go to Impact, they can go to New Japan, NWA,

and I think this was a good move. Did he just pick his name? or I'm trying to see maybe is that his real name his name is uh jermine

uh haley but he did go by Jonah Rock I was hoping for that or J. Rock um but that seems

Jonah seems like a lot of people get cut from release from WWE they go with whatever previous name they had yeah so come on go back to J. Rock that's what I'm going to call

but all right when he made his debut he jumped into the ring and uh took out what's his nuts um josh alexander he roughed him up then he came off the top of the splash two splashes actually it's a lot yeah it is he looks like he got bigger i mean he was big in nxtee and everything but he looked like he put on a few more pounds he could still move though yeah he can. I mean, even the announcer said, I like it when these big guys go off the top and he went down for the splash. He landed a good I assume

that guy had something in his mouth because that blood was just a little too red. Well, if you go back and watch the video, you could see with the little, I don't know if it was a little blood bag or he'd see it, he spit it out. You could see it on the mat. I was like,

Oh, come on, man. It was cool. I mean, it was just alluding to that he came down on a really hard and broke something. So he was spitting up blood. At first I thought it was real, but I was like, wait a minute, that blood is just too red. And then when the camera zoomed in, then you can see it with a little bag or whatever he had in his mouth, he spit out. I'm surprised he didn't like try to like hide it. just laid there with his face this is right there on the right I don't know it was weird

yeah I checked out most of that pay-per-view your girls the Iconics now the inspiration I like their kind of new look because they kind of they look a little little bit more sexy but clearly they haven't been working on their ring skills because it was a little, a little cringy there in a few moments. And, yeah, need to work on it. I like how they put the tag belts on them, but need to tighten up some moves there, girls.

Yeah, they just handed it to them as soon as they walked out there, basically. House. Ooh, okay. I mean, I love both of them. Don't get me wrong. I was shocked that they she was Peyton Royce then

I'm surprised they kept her around just a little bit longer but I don't know I haven't watched TNA in a while I just watched highlights and everything so I don't have to but it's good pretty good

it's good to see that they're back back in the ring and back together. So it's always good to see that when somebody gets cut from WWE and then they end up somewhere else. So, but oh man.

Back to punk and needle dick. I assume they can just say whatever the hell they want on that show. I mean, shit and bitches about the most they say, but it's good.

It's good when they go off. um uh when's it was that next one um in long island is it a pay-per-view or is it just regular dynamite i think it might be dynamite is that the one where uh hangman pays defends his belt against uh i would say his name wrong uh brian danielson yeah i think so which i like the heel move on him that i'm a heel but i'm not a heel but i'm not a heel type of situation he got going Yeah, I mean, he's good It was good just to see him come back

I want to know how much they They paid him Where's AEW out of? Ooh I snow somewhere back east Yeah But Because I wonder if he still

Lives in Arizona Because that's where what's her name his wife's from and they were living there so I don't know and they have two kids now

yeah okay yeah so she's at home with the kids and he's out rolling around the ring with guys but again it's good to see him back Jacksonville Florida yeah so it must just be

back and forth man that's like basically coast to coast really but I'm not sure on what else is to come I mean I think as far as AEW I watch it and everything

but mainly for punk now because I'm a huge seeing a punk fan so excuse me I'm all about him I really like MJF I think in a few years from now we're going to be talking about when we talk about the top

heels in the business we're going to be bringing his name up because he he does a lot of good stuff on the mic especially yeah when he has a little feud with uh jericho yeah i mean he's good on the mic he obviously just he does his homework and he practices and and really gets his point across because yeah like on this last one man that it went on a long time i mean i'm sure they have all right this is what i'm going to say this is one these are my points i'm going to hit and then he just kind of just goes for it as well as punk and punk's always been like that on the mic so but i think that's going to be a good match once they uh they get into it uh that match when um after punk uh beat um what was that

black guy's name um god damn it you just send me that video too um but when uh mj f came out and started talking shit uh he brought up larry i was like weak i see him that's what Ziafug said he was letting him talk shit and everything but as soon as he said Larry he said fuck that he ran out of the ring and who's a big dude that came out? That's Wardlow

he has kind of like his own own crew and that's like the enforcer for the for the crew for the for the faction but it's definitely gonna be a good match

and I'm pretty sure it be a long one. I don't think they're going to be going at each other this much for it to be a couple minutes. I think that's not going to go on for a while and hopefully everyone's out to scream and fight forever. But I don't know.

We'll see once that hits. But Survivor Series. Before we died, then what did you think of the whole thing? Survivor Series? Yeah. For the most part,

uh, I was entertained, but again, it was a lot of matches. I didn't really, I didn't really care for. Um, you know,

we got, uh, the traditional Survivor series matches. Uh, I was entertained by what happened in the women's one. Yeah. Because I think, I think someone got what she deserved.

And he, you know, I'm talking about. I hate her so much. And, uh, I really enjoyed the main event. I don't think that that is over between Biggie and Roman.

I think they're going to continue that somewhere along down the line. Yeah. But I didn't need to see Becky and Charlotte go. It was an entertaining match because I did see there was a couple stiff shots thrown in there because apparently they truly don't like each other no more. And there was some things done previously. on TV where Charlotte was going off script that kind of rubbed Becky the wrong way

and kind of I heard rubbed Sasha the wrong way too because when she kind of got into the segment too on Raw or was it Smackdown one of them shows I guess for her portion Charlotte went off script again so there was there was some good moments in the match I would say this is a kind of mid-level for if I

I had to look back on the year of paper views. It's definitely better than, uh, what was that one? Was it payback? Which one? I don't even remember which one was that one was that. There was, yeah, there was one though. We just thought it was complete fucking garbage.

Yeah, it might have been that one. I don't remember. Yeah, but I was entertained for the most part. Yeah. I mean, I feel you, I'm pretty much the same. I mean, I was, I didn't like, uh, the, well, you got to roll your eyes at every match because we've seen these already.

But you just expect them to go hard. I mean, I didn't see the kickoff. But when Becky and Charlotte went at it, they do what they do, of course. But yeah, when you said there were some stiff shots, I can't remember. Was it Charlotte or Becky that kicked one of them in the head? I want to say it was Charlotte.

I think Charlotte came with her little, big boot kind of move she does. It looks like she connected like for real. It didn't, it didn't look like they were, she pulled it a little, no, it was just a stiff kick.

And I felt like when, uh, Becky put her in the figure four. And Becky, like, I felt like Becky really fucking slapped the shit out of her. And she was like, bitch and just slapped.

And then they just were slapping each other. But that first slap, I kind of felt like she was trying to like give it to her. And then there was a moment. I don't know if you caught it. But Charlotte's so fucked up. Did you see where she gave a fucking Becky a wedgy? Because Becky, whatever outfit she had was already

fucking riding up her ass. But there was a moment where she was like picking her up and just grab the back of her tights or whatever and just fucking yanked it up her ass. Yeah. when they when they were really going at it when it was like when it was really hits and kicks and everything they did it but they did it subtly I mean we we saw it but it would like they

would just do what they do when they're in the ring especially but as far as them just really taking some jabs at each other man I was like damn I mean they were in the beginning they do show this I used to be my best friend and all of this and then now that they just

hate each other I'm just like you gotta you're gonna have to work with these people like constantly especially because these are two two of the main gals and I don't know

I mean I can see uh Charlotte being the one with the bigger head thinking that she is the queen she's the best and I deserve my own bus and that type of shit but I don't know

well if anyone needs a bus I think Becky does because I don't know if she she's hauling her kid around if she's doing the handoff when daddy's not in the ring yeah I always wonder how does that work especially when they're both got big matches and storylines going

yeah I mean that kid has to be there obviously they have a nanny or someone that takes care of them when they're when they're not there maybe that's what bailey's doing you know what i'm kind of i'm not a fan of hers either you know this but i'm kind of looking forward to her coming back she'll come back and she'll get the belt so she'd be evil bailey or will she have the side ponytail again i don't want that I want evil heal Bailey from here on now. Oh, with the, the, the, the, the little points.

Yeah, I like that, like that. I didn't like it at first because it was, she was such a, the face and everything. And she was all good. But when she cut her hair and everything, I was kind of like, I did, I didn't like it. But now, uh, because I didn't think she would be able to sell it good. What's so happy. I'm a hugger and all that But that turn

The talk show sold me on her heel turn It really did Yeah, but the first matcher Becky ended up pulling it out via pinfall CBS Sports.com graded it In A minus I'm all right that I would have had it around a B

But A minus okay but I mean they both win hard I mean right out the gate it wasn't like a slow buildup because especially when you when you get both of these two gals in the ring I mean they they go for it because they are known

to go hard I mean I've said it before the women seems to have to have to step it up a little bit more more than the guys just so they can get their fair time in the ring but it's only fair

to me it's only fair time for the big ones. All the other gals are just hanging out in the back. Candace Luray, is she ever kid yet? No, I think she's still pregnant. Okay. Hopefully once that kid's out, she'll get back in there and kick ass,

but. Yeah, they won't let her go. They want, they want to keep Johnny Gargano. So I see them coming to the, to the main roster. Yep.

All right. Team Raw, the next one was the, was it fatal four way or five way or? Yeah. Whatever it was. Team Raw was Seth Rolls, Finn Ballard, Kevin Owens,

Austin Theory, and Bobby Lashley, taken on Team Smackdown, Drew McIntyre, Xavier, King, King Xavier, yeah. Woods, the charismatic

Enigma, Jeff Hardy, and happy Corbyn. I fucking don't like any. You know what? He's a decent wrestler. You know, he's a good big man to get in the ring. But every character they try to do with him, I fucking hate every one of them. And this might be the worst. I'd rather him going back to be bummy and ask him for change.

That's what I like. It's fucking happy, fucking always smiling and just all of a sudden I'm fucking rich, just out of nowhere. I just, I don't like it. Happy Corby. And of course, Seamus, but I'm glad Seamus got rid of that dumb Mohawk. I did not like that at all. But happy Corbyn, the lone wolf. I liked him when he was the lone wolf, but then it just.

I guess whatever they tell you to do, you just do it. And hopefully you get a good paycheck. And at least he's not like, hell, no, I don't want to do that. I don't want to do that. Because I think that he knows, like if he says no to what they want to do with, I'm not like, well, we'll find someone else to do it. You're out. So I think he's just like, I'll do whatever you guys tell me to do. It's just so this happy.

attitude. It just, it's so forced. And this sometimes I'm like, you're fucking not really happy right this second while you're talking. And it just like a fake smile and just, I don't know. It bothers me. This is this is worse than the fucking when he was the raw general manager where he was supposed to be dressed up. But he's to look like a fucking waiter. I didn't like his king angle because his, uh, I didn't, I don't. I don't. I don't. know i didn't like the way his crown looked it looked cheap and he looked like a fucking low budget game of thrones character i just i don't like anything they do with him uh yeah who

who knows what uh what what what's next for him but i mean he does what he does he's a good wrestler i mean when he when he gets in the ring and and he's he's another big guy but he still does what he does but um this man I thought it was good. They all went hell of hard. Well, Kevin Owens didn't get a chance to go hard. He came out.

Is he like, is this contract like almost up? Yeah, there's, I just watched, um, on YouTube, there's a wrestling podcast called going in raw and they were

talking about all these, um, contracts. There's more contracts coming up for W, WWE that's expiring. And I think his was one that's, uh, I don't know if in the next,

the next couple months or sometime before summer i think his will be up well i hope we uh who excuse me i hope he goes a e w and because it becomes kevin steen again because he's friends with all them yeah i'm i'm i'm all about i think i don't think he'll sign again i mean i think he um i mean they don't push him as hard as they did but I don't know. I just hope he just leaves and just says goodbye and goes to AEW and then kicks ass over there. But he'll be gone and Sammy, Sammy will be gone too. I've never liked Sammy Zane.

Man, he needs to cut that hair. I don't like it all wild and crazy. Come on. Come on, Sammy. Put the mask back on. Bring back L Generico. Oh. I mean, this match.

was good. I knew who was going to win, but it, I would have preferred Jeff Hardy, but Seth Rounds ended up being the last man standing. I mean, I've said this before, especially during Survivor Series.

They just Smackdown, or Raw always wins. I don't even remember the last time Smackdown won the Survivor series, but, I don't know. And tell me if I'm wrong. They, okay, they cut Tyler Breeze, but then they gave his gimmick to Austin Theory with the whole selfie thing.

Oh, I don't know. At least he doesn't have that dumb selfie stick or whatever they only called it. Not yet. Please don't bring that out. The guy in charge of props is going to find it. They're going to be like, Tyler don't need this anymore. But yeah, yeah, back. to Kevin Owens.

He came out and he was getting ready to start and then he just dove out of the ring and said, F this, I'm not doing it and walk backstage. I was like, oh, come on. He will be in the main event on day one pay-per-view. He's in the title match

with Big E and Seth Rohn's three-way. He ain't winning. No, he's not. The Big E, if it, he ain't dropping the belt before, or WrestleMania. Hopefully he takes it to the main event, not main event, takes his belt to WrestleMania.

But see, that scares me though, because his fantasy match is to Russell Goldberg. And you know somebody's like, that's a good idea for WrestleMania. I don't know. I'd rather see Edge because Edge took a stab at him. So what, I don't know what's going on. Looks like Edge is going to be fighting the Miz for a little while but okay I'm okay with that until WrestleMania yeah I mean but but but the all of them everybody that was

in it went hard the raw was losing but then they came back at the end because they were losing dude to quick left and right um gang Xavier at where's Kofi has he hurt or is he just taking time off I think he's I think he's hurt but I think he they're still going to use them on TV. Okay. I mean, I hope they bring the

new day back because Biggie's doing his run as champ and Xavier's King now. So, but I don't know. I think eventually at some point, some pay review,

the new day will be back. I mean, I don't think that's, that will die. I mean, even if all three of them did separate. I mean, they would still chant new day and all and all that, but I don't know. We'll see. It's going to be, it's going to be King Woods for the title against Biggie.

Cofy's going to choose, and I'm going to call it right now. He's going to choose King Woods because you know, you notice he knighted Cofy, but who he didn't knight. Biggie. Biggie's not worthy. Don't break them up yet, man. Come on. I mean, they, they got everybody. hyped every time they came out.

I know everyone didn't hate, hated them in the beginning, but then they just, they finally sold it, and then everybody was all about them. But yeah, I mean, tag team or teams never stay together. They always break up.

They always feud. So, it was bound to happen. So I'm sure it's going to come up. Jeff was looking pretty slow in this one. He is getting up there. and I was did you watch that um broken skull podcast or whatever it whatever that is I saw clips um I don't think

he's done yet I think if he was if his contract was up I'd see him going to a EW if they take him but I don't know but yeah he's the stuff Stuff that he done throughout his career. I mean, and eventually it's going to catch up to you. But because he was like, I'm surprised that I'm still able to do what I have to do. He goes,

I'm in a way better shape. I take care of myself. He's not drunk or doing drugs anymore. So, but I don't know. But I think Jeff is coming to an end with WWE. So, I don't know.

We'll see. He can go work with his brother. His brother is recreated himself again in AEW. So I think he can go over there and maybe if he has a fresh idea on how he wants to have his character be, then I think that would be a good place for him. I don't know. Matt needs to break again and then bring a brother Nero with him. So we'll see. What about Willow?

You ever like Willow? Oh my gosh. But I mean, but this match was good, man. I mean, they all went hard. I mean, Drew McIntyre,

he goes out there and kicks ass. I'm glad when they brought him back. I was glad that he had a little title to run. But I kind of want him to get another one to be, to get another belt again. Yeah. Because he was good. I mean,

he's, he that time off and then of him just getting ripped and then coming back i mean i was all about it um i wish three and b would come back at some point but uh what's his names where's he at uh he's an impact okay is him and uh rhino are back together all right right i know yeah but he he he don't have to the i got kids gimmick though he dropped all that he's just uh him I got kids oh man

yeah he's later but yeah again they rated this one or um we're all defeat it's mac down of course because it came down to the final two uh Jeff Hardy and Seth Rowns and when it was just them two in there

I wanted them to go a little bit longer but they they had to end it so but when they when those two were going at it. I thought it was often. What's his name? Kep calling wrong moves at times. What was the other guy's name?

Not Corey or Michael. Oh, the how fuck is his name? You talking about Pat McAfee? Yeah. He That guy needs to calm down. He was just a little too hyped. But I mean,

That was cool. But when he was calling out moves and they were the wrong moves, I was like, okay. I did like this commentating in the Becky Charlotte match because she got dropped on the outside. And then he pointed directly to a Mets fan. And then he was like, that guy knows her pain. Yeah. And why is she stealing the rock bottom? Oh, the manhandle slam?

Oh. That's a rock bottom. he even said that at the rock bottom and i was like whoa we'll get to it later somebody else is uh using it now yeah well my gosh but um wow the next one was the uh 25 man battle royal uh i wanted otis to win uh but he lost but uh when we were making our picks for uh shout out to uh wrestling for dummies no um almost was my first choice but then I was like

I'm gonna go with who I like and Otis but Otis was only in there for like minutes he climbed in and then boom they threw him out I was like I don't get it he was goofy then he was serious and then you give him pizza and he's fucking

sitting there fucking eating pizza being goofy again I like when they were just throwing pizza into the crowd and and one guy caught it and he was eating it was that the prize all those pizzas as almost was fucking pissed off that they were throwing his pizza away

I don't know I mean I like almost and everything he he makes me laugh but again these big guys only have a handful of moves and his he just basically slammed you and that's it but I mean but overall I I mean, I like when they have Bell Royals. You can't watch everybody when they have these things, but it's good to see it, to see it when it happens. But, yeah, Omas ended up just roughing house everybody. So I was like, all right, cool, whatever.

Who got screwed over again in this one? Rickshay. I don't know. Good. Commander Aziz, I mean, He command him He fucking looks stupid in that jacket

Yeah, I know What was the other dude's name? The one big dude with long hair Um God damn it Um He's a smackdown Oh, the

The guy that was with Um This is the part of the show where we're getting yelled at Yeah Um I can't remember his name I see I shouldn't know everyone's name because I play the

WWE Topps card game or collecting thing on uh slam WWE slam top slam on uh on my phone

with the cards god damn I can't remember his name but I wanted to come down to the to the big guys at the end uh commander Aziz and I wanted Otis to last a little bit longer in

omas but that didn't happen. But, um, every time you say commander, Aziz, it's ridiculous. I don't know, but, um, who, who did he come down? Who, who was the last, well, Omas? Who was, who did he throw out at the end? To win a ricochet.

Yeah, okay. That's right. Wakerchet, but. When they brought him up, And they were giving him that push for like a second and then they just threw him back in the pile. I'm like, come on. I mean, he's good. I mean, he was badass in NXT and he started out good.

Now you just turned him into a scrub. Have you ever seen Lucha Underground? Yeah. Yeah, he was Prince Puma. He was a luchador in that one and he was badass in that. I don't know what WWE wants I mean they obviously watch

these guys come up go okay this is what we want this is what we want let's bring them over and then they do nothing with them just give them the shaft every chance they got but I'm like

all right but yeah almost ended up winning that one he did not get no pizza though no he didn't they threw it all out to everyone the next

match was the raw tag team champions the RK bro taking on Smackdown champs the USOS. Um, fine. He's kidding right. For some reason, I was

waiting for, uh, Roman to come running in or something to, to start something with, um, with Randy Orton, but, uh, I don't know. I was kind of against this RK bro thing in the beginning, but I

love, uh, he's Matt Riddle. not just riddle to me, but I like what's going on. Did you see the next night on Raw when he dressed up like Randy Orton? No, I didn't. I missed that one. Yeah, he had like the mustache and the fake beard. And Randy was like, I told you to think like me, not act like me. I saw the pictures.

I mean, I think at some point those two are going to go at it. Yeah. And a fight to student against teacher or whatever. they're going to call it. But I mean, I'll give it to Matt Riddle, man. Jumping and flying around, in and out of the ring and everything with no shoes on.

Oh, man, he must have tough feet. Because, what's his name? He was barefooted until he broke his toes. Roos, is it Roose?

Yeah, Rousse. What's his name now? Mero. Yeah. Shout out to you, man. Lana or whatever the hell. her name is now. She's

CJ Perry. Yeah. Is she just going to stay at home and be a TikTok model or is she going to? Hey, I've seen some of them and some of her Instagram photos. She's living life right now. Yeah, she is.

I'm surprised she's not pregnant. But I don't know. We'll see where that goes. But I thought this match, I mean, they went hard. I mean, it was a good matchup. the Archibro and the Uso's And the Usoes do what they do

I still get confused With Jimmy and Jay I was watching and I can't remember Whose hair is shorter and whose hair is longer But Who was the who's the one that wrestled Roman When they had the beef going on Was it Jimmy?

Okay Whoever that one is Is the one with the shorter hair Okay Or was it Jay? Man, I don't I don't remember. They do what they do.

I mean, and I love both of them, man. They're high flyers and everything, so it's good. But R.K. Bro ended up defeating the Uso's. And they were who I picked because I just like it. But did Matt Riddle come out on his little scooter in this one? I think he kind of came out with it. He seems like he's mostly carrying it now. Because it just seems like Randy's just like, stop.

Stop fucking riding in. Yeah. So, yeah, RK bro ended up pulling it out. The next one was Team Raw, Bianca Bel Air, Ria Ripley, Liv Morgan, Carmela, and Zelina Vega, taking on

Team Smackdown with the boss Sasha Banks and Shatzy come on I hate when they

just stop you hype them up with two names and then you just take it down to one she's Shotsy black car

I don't care what anyone says and my girl Shana Bazler and Natalia and God damn Tony Storm

is fine but She'll probably soon just be Tony. Or Storm or something like that. Shana, I, of course I want to smack down the win because of the boss and Shotsie, but the way those two are going at it. I loved how it ended up for Sasha. Everybody's seen how Sasha really is. She's the boss.

loss, but, um, I, I have, uh, out of this between the guys and the gals, I like this one better. I mean, they went, they, they went a lot harder, uh, than the dudes did. I mean, because I've, I always say this. They seem to be like they have to prove, uh, themselves, uh, to be a part of this to, to, to have this, uh, the women's revolution going strong still. I mean, Bianca Bel Air, she's still badass, period. But, yeah, she was a sole survivor because Raw, man, they were, they were getting dropped out left and right. And then it came down to her and she had to whoop up on everybody. I was hoping Shati was going to end up winning this, but nah, she got roughed up and thrown out.

So Natty, I love her, but don't get rid of her. Don't get rid of her. No, they're not. she's I think she's alive her. Yeah, she's just yeah, just stay there, but they could have brought someone else up

in this, but I don't know what they're doing. And Shana, I kind of wanted her to get to the end of it too, but I don't know what they're trying to do with her. I mean, they push her, but then they just kind of

Then they teamed her up with Nightjacks. Shane is leaving. Shane is going to be gone soon. I don't think they know what to do with her. I was hoping what's her name was going to come back, but she ended up getting pregnant. Rhonda.

So I don't know. She didn't have that baby. Yeah, but then because before when, because she was, they were showing something kind of basically teasing saying that she was going to come back. Who knows? She may come back after she gets a nanny or anything.

Because I was watching old matches with her. Yeah, she was a little rough. But to me, I think she proved it that she can do it. She wasn't a Brock listener. I'm only doing pay-per-views. And that's it. She put her time into it because she wanted to do it. I think if she comes back,

I think she needs to learn to separate her emotions from the business. business because you know you go back to when uh charlotte beat the shit out of her with that kendo stick and i was supposed to get the fans on ronda's side and everybody was cheering saying thank you charlotte and then she fucking started crying and shit i was like you gotta separate that shit because ronda ronda is a better heel than she is a face so could have just used that but they were always trying to push Rhonda to be the face. Yeah, but I don't know. We'll see.

I mean, I don't think, let's just say AEW offered Rhonda. Hey, won't you come to us? I wouldn't see her going there unless they just do just crazy money at her. But if she does come back, I think Vince. we'll throw crazy money for her to come back. But who knows, we'll see. I would love to see Rhonda and Dr. Britt Baker in the championship match. That's my girl.

Ronda would win. I mean, there's no doubt about that. I mean, she did what she did. She learned a lot. Some people may not think so, but I thought from, Her first match when she first came into as she got going. And I thought she was getting better and better because she was, she was a little rough around the edges and she,

a lot of mess ups and just going a little bit too hard on some of the girls that didn't need it. But go look at her match with Alexa Bliss because she was fucking tossing her around by her arm. Like, watching it like Rhonda, you can. if I could break her arm. So slow down a little bit. Yeah. Yeah,

Bianca Bella was a sole survivor in that. I still say they did her dirty. How long does she have that belt? Just a few months? Yeah, a few months to lose it in like 15 seconds. Yeah, that was, she got a raw deal for that one. But, but,

we knew who was going to win. So at first I thought it was going to be it was champ against champ regular WWE champ Big E taking on Universal champ Roman Reigns I don't know again handful of moves with these big guys but they both went really hard on each other.

I didn't like the end of it the pin when Roman Raines pinned a Big E because it seemed like it went hell of fast because they were beating the shit out of each other in the ring and then when they went out of the ring they were they were fucking each other up but once they got back in the ring to finish it it was like they climbed in the ring boom boom boom one two three over yeah i was like that either because they were just go ahead no go ahead i was just gonna say they were going fucking hella hard and hitting new finishes on each other and then when they got back in the ring it was what was it a was it a sphere? Yeah. And one, two, three. Like, you, you took all, you took Superman punch.

This is what I was talking about earlier. We saw the rock bottom by Roman Raines. He took that. He was taking all these, all these moves. And then it was a quick, it just seemed like a quick finish. Yeah. I was kind of like, does someone tell him, hey, man, you guys got to wrap this up. Because I don't know, man, I would have had them.

fight forever because I thought when they were outside of the ring fucking each other up I just thought all that was awesome but then once they got back in the ring one two three boom done I was like that's it and I know a lot of fans

were mad because the rock didn't show up they you got to admit they teased him yeah they did they did that's why I thought he was coming with that uh with his new documentary that that's on on the network the documentary the

movie the anniversary of yeah the movie with the gold the fucking stupid thing with the golden egg and who stole it was so stupid but yeah just the rock came either the real egg it's worth millions 100 million dollars you know like okay and and then he doesn't show up I was just what was the point yeah I mean because they were pushing red notice. I mean, during the commercial breaks, and then every now and then you'd see it said red notice on the screen.

And I was like, well, is he coming out? I figured if anything, he was going to come out during this, if not to help, to maybe distract or something. I don't know, but he never came. And then pretty much soon as it was over, the fans were straight to Twitter, Facebook, and all social media is and was mad because of rock. wasn't there. And another thing they should have did,

they should have made this for each other's belts. Yeah, that's what I wanted. Because my son, my son came in and he goes, because he came in right in the beginning because he likes Roman Raines and he was like, are they going to,

are they fighting for each other's belt? And I said, I think so, but then it wasn't. Yeah, I would have rather had that. I think they would have went harder. They were already going hard, but I think they would have went harder if it was for one man leaves with both belts. But that didn't happen. Just imagine.

And then you have the rock come out. And then the bloodline fucking beats him down. And then you just got Roman standing over the rock holding two belts in the air. Yeah. But no, it's not what we got. I mean, it was still a good match. It was a good hard hitting match. and I think it showed everybody, you know, Biggie, he's, he's up there now with everybody.

Yeah. I mean, I was watching old videos of him when he was a Ziegler's sidekick. When he hit AJ in the chest. Yeah. But, yeah, I mean, this one, man, they went hell of hard. And like when they were just pulling out finisher after finisher back and forth and still going. It was awesome. I mean, Biggie, I mean, I like him.

I mean, mainly because once he got into the new day and then just got all wacky and crazy. But now that he's on his own, he's a singles wrestler on top of being the WWE champ. I don't know what they're going to do with them. I mean, if he was to drop the belt either at WrestleMania or before, who do you think would they would put him up against? I mean, it can't be the Mizz because he's going to be dealing with Edge. I would probably say edge. This gets Edd.

a nice feud with the Miz and maybe set up something with Edge. Yeah, I mean, because he did, Edge did mention him when he was going off on the Miz. So, but I don't know what they're going to do.

But I would like to see Big E have a long title run before he drops the belt, but you guys know how it goes with WWE. I mean, they'll give it to you one minute and then they'll take it away the next. So,

Yeah, it's, it's going to be, they're going to set up with something with Goldberg, like two weeks before WrestleMania. And then he drops the belt to Goldberg. They got, they're going to Bray Wyatt him. Oh, man. Where's he at? He's, uh, shooting a horror movie. Oh, that's right. I remember reading something about that.

Yeah. And, uh, there, there's a lot of talks that he'll, he'll, after that he'll probably end up with AW. you under whatever name he comes up with but I think shooting this this horror movie is his focus right now did he make up the fiend or was that a WWE property they own it but from what I understand the whole concept and idea is something he came up with so if he came up with all that I don't think he has a problem with coming up with something else something fresh Yeah I mean

It's a lot better than when he came out of NXT when he was The fuck was his name I don't remember Something retunda Where's his brother at Bo Dallas I don't know

He got he got cut and he just fucking disappeared I was a bo-leaver he should have just been part of the Wyatt family yeah I didn't I didn't see why well they were pushing them for everyone to believe and and all that but then disappeared

I heard they have a sister that wrestles she could have been like sister Abigail or something where's Alexa Bliss is she hurt or she just she uh I think I read she had the sinus surgery or something. Okay. So when she comes back, that whole thing, when she was foaming at the mouth after her match,

they'll probably act like that never happened. Yes, that was terrible. But I liked her. I mean, I like her run, her heel running and what she was doing, being all crazy and everything. What was her doll's name? I don't know.

Lily or something I can't remember I don't know What was Charlotte's Charlie or something A Charlie or Shit I don't know Yeah

But yeah Roman Raines of course Like we said he pinned He pinned Biggie for the win And then That was it Nothing happened I was waiting for

something that happened, but then it just Roman walked out of the ring and it was over. So, but yeah, I mean, Rock could have showed up something but just was over. Yeah, it just boom. Ended. All right, we'll see you guys next time. Boom, done. I was like, well, we, that's it.

But, I mean, this took place at the Barclays Center in Brooklyn. And when we were gone, but then I came home And I saw the end of it when Roman won. And when they say, yes, we're coming to you from Brooklyn.

I was like, damn, it was already eight something. So I must have been, what, 9 to 11 o'clock? Almost 12 when it was over there. Like shit, but I don't know. And I know I ask you every review, ever pay-per-view review. What's your review on Corey Graves, this? I hate him. I hate him, period, man.

I can't stay in him. Yeah, I'm hating that he's banging Carmela, but I just, I didn't like him when he was wrestling. You know what? Speaking of Carmela, I like this angle they got where she puts the mask on. Her sparkly cane mask?

Yeah, because, you know, she got to, you got to protect the face. Okay, Ms. I mean,

Ms. was doing that. This is the million bucks. Oh, man. I don't know what's going on. I don't know if she can. came up with that or someone said, hey, here, put this on.

I don't know. All right, everyone, that was Survivor Series. We'll be back with war games because that's happening this Sunday. And when I can take two weeks after the pay-per-view and do it, we'll be back sooner with war games. Because I'm really looking forward to that. I'm more excited for when every time

NXT has a pay-per-view or takeover or whatever because they go hard. I think the last one that I watched, when Bronson Reed was still there, when they're beating the shit out of each other. But I don't know. I know some people think that this pandemic is over with. Nobody seems to just,

you see a mask every now and then in the crowd, but it seems like at these pay reviews, nobody nobody nobody's wearing them and i don't know uh what uh what the situation was in in in in brooklyn but um because i went to a uh a show in in oakland a concert and when they were doing when you guys heard me on the horror returns when they were doing the vaccine vaccination check uh thing with the cards and everything i was uh thinking that either they do do that in New York at the Berkeley Center and we just don't know.

I don't know. I haven't heard anybody mentioned anything like that, but I mean, it's weird though when you go to these type of events, everyone, yeah, wear a mask no matter what. And they just don't enforce it. Maybe they just want to know you have one. I guess. I mean,

because when I went to SummerSlam, there was signs everywhere. Leave your mask on. Keep your mask on. But they didn't care. Like, nobody had a mask on when they were walking in so I was just like alright whatever I kept mine on the whole time but I don't know everyone but

now this new variant the Megatron or whatever the hell it's called yeah it told Delta you ain't doing your job so we're stepping in yeah it's time to unleash this one but so was the Delta one gone and then now this one's taking over

but Delta's hanging around I don't know I don't know so there's three of it three versions running around now, but I don't want either one. So, so, but everything that I've been reading, they were saying that the symptoms

were mild with this. I mean, I don't care. Either way, I still don't want it, but I don't know. Man, I don't know how these events. If you guys go to these events in your part of the country, I mean, let us know what they're doing, because I don't know. But I know

if they have something in the Bay Area, anything right now they they are strict on basically just to get through the door once you get through the door it's a free for all so but I don't know how it's going

but yeah Survivor Series everyone I mean I enjoyed the whole thing I mean it was what it was but if I had to pick a favorite match it would be the the the RK bro and the

Usos match I thought that was awesome As well as the Battle Royal I mean I just love those again But Yeah I just think Those four guys went hell of hard The gals went hard

I mean all of them I mean In the beginning And then when they had the The teams With each other Battling it out I mean they all

They all went hard Every single one of those gals Went hell of hard Yeah I'm gonna go with the women Because what happened Asha. That was my favorite match. Come on,

boss. You need to get that belt back. So, but I don't know. We'll see. Really quick, do you think they'll put the bell back on Bianca again? Not any time soon. Yeah.

Because my girl, Liv Morgan, is wrestling Becky next, and she's definitely not going to get the belt. They're definitely not going to put the belt on Shotsie. Shotsie Blackheart. get it right. I hope they do. Because, uh,

and I think Tony Storm has got a storyline going with Charlotte, but I don't see her taking about off Charlotte either. I don't know. Sorry to sound like a sexist pig, but God damn, she's fine. Tony Storm.

I was like, whoa. I mean, he's, I like the accent too. I do it too. Damn. She's, she's backing it up. Even before, before she came over to the main

roster, she was on NXT. I was like, God damn, every time she came into the ring. Yeah. Honestly, I don't know who. I mean, you got Ria Ripley,

but they kind of just, I felt like they're burying her now. Yeah. I mean, that whole thing when she was battling Charlotte and everything. I thought that was good. But that,

And it just, it just ended. So I don't know what they're doing with her. But I love Real Ripley though, but I don't know. I hope they give her another big push and put a belt on her. So, but I don't know. We'll see. I would have said Nia Jack's coming back from injury, but we know how that happened.

So. Yeah, she came back. Yeah, I'm ready to rock fired. I'm like, oh, all right. I don't like how they did her dirty, though. Because you notice out of the, as they said, it was four wrestlers that didn't want to get vaccinated. She was the only one named? Oh, was she?

I didn't hear any of that. Yeah. It was like four wrestlers did not want to get vaccinated. Nia Jacks was included. And then just didn't say anybody else. I was like, that's kind of dirty. Um, if Vince says whatever, you got to do it. don't think you're above Vince because nobody is

because if you try to go up against him you're like oh yeah and then no just just do it it's not your head yes yeah just say yeah and and get that check but I don't know but yeah Survivor series everyone I enjoyed it um that's gonna bring this episode

to an end I can give shout a shout out again to wrestling for dummies Tim and those guys over there are awesome Follow their page or join their Is it a group or just a page? I want to say Facebook group

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There will be a wrestling for dummies wrestling returings collab soon. Yep. Hopefully. I want to go to Australia. But I don't know, man. When I was talking to Tim and he said spiders are crawling all over the place, now I'm good. I was just about to say, how are you going to deal

with that? Yeah, I mean, I want to me, that's on my bucket list. I want to go to Australia at some point, but when he was saying that those spiders are crawling around, but they're not, they're not deadly. It doesn't matter if they're deadly or not. I just, I don't want to see him. And the way he made it sound like they were big.

Oh, no. I can't, I can't, I can barely handle little small spiders, but I can't handle those ones that are as big as my hand. Yeah, I tried to get you to come on an episode with us when we were doing my kingdom of spiders and you were like, nope. Oh, hell no. I saw that movie once. I can't watch that movie again. I'll watch arachnophobia all day. I love that movie, but kingdom of the spiders, I couldn't do it.

No, I mean, I just remember that scene when Captain Kirk was driving down the road and the spiders, the tarantulas were taking over the town. And I don't know. Yeah, shout out to Melissa too, because we, I changed from Kingdom of Spiders to Aragnophobia. And then she said, nope, to Araknophobia. So we didn't do any spider-related movies with our, I think we were reviewing the first MCU Spider-Man movie. So all spider-related movies were shot down. well if you guys ever do eight-legged freaks that movie's awesome

I'll be a part of that one so but all right everyone that's it for the night check out stream fiends as well as action returns

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holiday Arnold Schwarzenegger classic a jingle all the way and I don't know what's coming next but oh there's one uh did you watch uh it's a new one shutter the advent calendar yeah did you watch that I'm about to watch it all right well you guys watch that and then we'll do it for 12 days but yeah we got more coming over on the skaternest podcast network also check out our other e-society feed on anchor um just more stuff we're gonna try to tackle uh put on there well there is gonna be a new anchor one coming up uh within the next day or so where we talk about um what was it 10 or no was it 11

uh, sci-fi films that bombed. Um, I mean, they're all, they were all awesome films. Some of them I didn't see, but this is easy one I kind of run down this list on, I think it was collider.com.

It was an old article, but we, lately we've been tackling like lists that we find on the internet and talk about movies. So yeah, that one's coming up pretty soon. It's done and recorded. I just got put together and put it out.

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