The Horror Returns - The Wrestling Returns: WWE Survivor Series WAR GAMES (2022)

Episode Date: November 30, 2022

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Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, welcome to another episode of the wrestling returns. Welcome back, everybody. The hiatus is done. The wait is over. We are finally back. I'm your host, Brian. With me as always is my brother Nez. What's up, man?

Oh, man. Sorry, everyone. We missed the past three, two or three pay-per-views. Yeah, and I just found out they're not called pay-per-views no more. They're called premium live events. Well, other than they moved them all the Saturday. But, um, all right. But, uh, but I do want to talk about, um,

crown jewel, the, the, the main event, Roman reigns and, um, the Logan Paul? Yep. Well, both of them were in it. That was the highlight of the evening. And I'll give it to Logan Paul, especially for that little selfie video he made when he dove off the top corner rope.

Yeah, that was badass. It landed on Roman Raines on the table, announced table. That was a hell of badass. Because you can clearly see when they were both laying there, Roman, like, checked on him, like, tapped on him. Like, you all right? He was kind of like, yeah. But that match, man, they went hell of hard. And I was like, I was there.

And I wasn't there. But I was like, I was in the moment. And I was like, fuck, yeah. this is awesome. And then we get war games. I didn't watch the NXT war games one yet. I want to watch that one. That one's always the better.

This is the first time they've done this, right? WWE. Yeah, with the main roster. It's usually NXC war games. Yeah, it was originally a WCW thing, and I don't think they ever did it. I think, yeah, you're right. I think this is the first time

WWEs actually did it themselves outside of NXT. But it started off with a bang and then it kind of started to fizzle out with some of the matches.

I was kind of like, really? But it's wrestling. What can you do? But, AEW, it pugs out, right? From everything

I hear yeah but then there is the new rumor that it might all be at work because I don't know if you saw the last

dynamite where not the last dynamite was a dime I think it was last dynamite when

the elite and death triangle on hand had their second match trios match yeah

and the elite were trawling punk like canny Omega was doing to go to sleep sign and he did his finisher and he bit somebody because you know allegedly punk's see him punk's boy bit bit one of them and then

one of the bucks did the the you know when punk fucked up on that shooting star lariat you know where you flip over yeah one of them did that and fucked up on purpose so the people are saying it's it's it's a work now because if they're trying to buy him out, then why would you go and kind of antagonize the situation? Who knows? Maybe they all just kind of sat down and apologized

and let's just go forward. But I mean, but that after that paper review when punk went off, I mean, that all seemed, if it was a work, he's one of the best actors in wrestling. Because he was like dead serious when he was,

saying all that stuff but I don't know we'll see well he was eating muffins or cupcakes whatever the hell he was eating he was plugging that place too and drink whatever that water he was drinking too yeah he made sure the label was out yeah the one thing I didn't like was the same people that were chan see him punk or like we're like the same people saying fuck see him punk yeah I you know we don't really know what happened. So we can't just automatically assume one side is right

and the other's wrong. If it is, if it is a work, man, they did a good job because they got everybody talking. It was all over sports radio and TV and online stuff. Everybody

and the mother was talking about it. But we'll see. Maybe it was just something to get out there. Did they really need to do it? No. because I think AEW is just kicking ass, but I don't know, we'll see how it goes. But, uh, WWE Survivor Series, war games.

Um, I don't know if there was a kickoff match. If there was, I didn't see it. I don't think they've been doing it anymore. They do. I watched some of the kickoff. I didn't see any matches.

Okay. Did you watch this live? I watched it like the later that night. I caught it live. All right. But this one I was really excited for. I kind of wished it would have closed the whole thing out. But Roman and the bloodline and everybody in the mom has to be in that one.

But this was the women's award games. Team Bel Air, Bianca Bel Air, the man, Becky Lynch, Alexa Bliss, Oscar, and Mea. Really quick. I am glad that Mia YM is back. I thought they kind of did her dirty, especially when they made her put that mask on and become... What was she? Some random character from the Mad Max movie.

I don't know. Yeah, I was like, come on. She's a beautiful young woman. Keith Lee is wrecking it. And, yeah, but I was happy she came back. And they just looked like the crowd, to where it was pretty hyped. Speaking of crowds, going back to Crown Jewel,

they were hell hyped, all of them. And I always said this, every time we talk about when they have pay-per-views over there or premium event, whatever fuck you guys want to call it. But everyone was hyped. When they pulled the camera back, I noticed that the royalty was sitting on the other side.

On the camera side, that we couldn't see. There was a couple that was in the camera, angle but I think they wanted that everybody hyped right on that side and everybody was so I love it when they when they do that. Yeah, let the real

fans be up front, let the kids be up front, you know, people that are going to get really excited for it. Yeah, because again, they really, they probably have their stuff that goes on there but when the superstars show up I mean, everyone, they want to be front

row screaming, hooting, and hollering for whoever their favorite superstar is. but all right but yeah team belair bea yonka biller the man becky linds alexa bliss oscar and my i am taking on team damage control uh bailey yes uh dakota kai yes i oh sky a k a eosurai niki cross which i like i liked at a niki as h i thought it was a cool little gimmick and i love their mask and cape and everything, but this was the nicky cross that I liked when she was wild and just

didn't care and she's beautiful, beautiful young woman, but I like her like her like this when her's all crazy and just everything because she's really short so. Yeah, she was all into this, just back to this old character because she's playing with her

hair, she's sitting off in the corner and not paying attention to anything and just being crazy. I love it. Yeah. and my girl the beautiful Rio Ripley oh so fine and the black eyeliner and a black lipstick and all the tattoos

and yes I'm there but these gals brought the house down just to kick off the show and I was like it can't go for me my opinion I think I figured it's going to go down from here because these ladies went for it

And shout out to Nikki Cross, E.O. Sky and Becky Lynch for diving off the top of the cage. I mean, if you guys, I'm sure you're familiar with the war games with the two rings, basically butted up against one or another. I like that. I was hoping later in the later matches that it would have spilled over into another ring just for the hell of it, but it never did. Yeah, it was like the other ring wasn't there for the other matches. Yeah, it was like they used the ones that was right in front of the announced tables for one match, and then they used the other one. So it was kind of a back and forth deal. But other than these gals, all 10 just being the hell out of each other, I mean, I thought this match was awesome. And they just went super duper hard.

What did you think of this one? I thought this was the best match of the night. they went super hard like we talked about Nikki Cross I love her energy that she brings Rea Ripley's badass Eo Sky was doing her thing

She did have a couple Fuckups there I think she was just a little too anxious Moving a little too fast A little disappointed in Alexa Bliss It was just like she was just there to fill out the team.

She didn't really do anything. And there was supposed to be this, this whole, her and Nikki Cross were former teammates and best friends. And they didn't really go at each other that much. And they had that weak-ass spot with the handcuffs. That clearly the handcuffs were too big for Nikki, or Alexa Bliss's hand.

You could see. Yeah, you could clearly say she could have just pulled her hand right out of it. Yeah, that went nowhere. But I think Nikki didn't need to prove herself other than when she, well, it starts off. There's 10 gals. They throw four from each team in these two little cages. And then they sent in the first two women to start off the match. Bianca Belair and the Eos guy.

Is that the one? Yeah. No, no way. It was a Dakota Kai. Yeah, Dakota Kai. They're the ones that kicked it off. And they were the first, it was like five minutes for the first two, and then I went to like three and four and shit like that for the rest.

But it seemed like that five-minute match before the next person came in, they went on forever, but they were beating the hell out of each other. So I just loved that. I'm still waiting for someone to cut off beyond. Bianca Bellar's ponytail, her big braid, but that never happens. Yeah. But once they started going at it and then I think I know Sky came in next and they were, they were double teaming Bianca Belair and then it would just kind of went from there.

Yeah, you're right. When Alexa Bliss came in, she just came in and didn't, I mean, she did what she does, but it was nothing spectacular. She was kind of just looking pretty. Yeah. Give me the crazy one again. I want that. And that's what I was confused about,

because the buildup to this match, whenever they had, like, interviews or even a couple times when Alexa Bliss would come to the ring, Bray Wyatt's a little Firefly logo would, like, flash on the screen, and she would get, like, distracted.

And that played nothing into this match at all. No, it just didn't do anything. I mean, I was hoping. something big. I think at some point she's just going to flip out and go back to that character, which I hope so, because my fingers are crossed. Should have been this match. Yeah, they didn't. But once everyone got in, I mean, Oscar, I loved when her and Eoskai were going at it. Because, I mean, I just love when they just hype them up.

former best friends in Japan and now they're going head on one on one I was like okay we already know all this just let them beat the shit out of each other Oscar messed up a few times too it was mainly when they were trying to do stuff off the ropes they kept getting their footing would slip

but not to say what they were doing was bad it was just you're excited and you're trying to keep this the match going and really excited so that's why everyone was just kind of slowly slipping but man Oscar man I love Eoskei don't get me wrong but I think Oscar is still

the best out of the two or what's her name too what's a little pirate gal um oh um carrie sang yeah I like her too but then Bianca biller man she was no joke because when she picked up

Dakota Kai and just body pressed her and then slammed her into the fence I think she just managed to hit just a fence, but she threw her right into the pole. I don't know if that was intentional, but Dakota got laid there for a minute after that one. But when Nikki Cross came in,

she came running in and immediately went under the ring and just started throwing everything in there. Candle sticks, garbage canned lids, whatever she can get her hands on. I mean, she was even ready to go at the, uh, the, the, the, the ref that was on the outside. But I, I just, I just love when, when she, she's doing what she's doing. Because usually when the ASH, uh, almost superhero, when she just come in and smile and be happy and everything, which was cool. I, I did like that.

But when she's all nuts and wild and crazy, that's when, for me, other than she's just a little cutie and she's hot when she's like that. But, yeah, for a while, she would ruff fools, rough gals up. But then she would just sit there and smile and look all crazy. And then she climbed to the top of the cage. And she just sat there for a minute, waiting for everyone to get in place. And then she just cross-bodied everyone and dove off. I was like, yeah, I was, I was hyped that she did that. Because I was thinking before the actual match started, I was thinking,

one of these gals is going to go flying off the top of the cage. the surprise that we got three Becky just kind of just butt first off and Dakota Kai took all that yeah she did she like totally missed the EL Sky

but when Eoskeye did it she was hardcore she climbed up to the onto the top and moot salted off and I can't remember who she landed on but she took out she took out two of them Luckily, they caught her before they all fell.

And I don't know how high that cage is. And Eoska isn't that tall of a woman, but she just said, fuck it, just flipped. I was like, oh. Hey, yeah, and then once Ria came in, Ria was the last one to come in. And that's when she just came, she went straight in and started beating the hell out of everybody. Because at one point, Ria was the only one standing. And all the ladies were all laying there all beat to hell. So, but who did she slam into the, because when Bailey came in, she started throwing in ladders.

So. And there was, there was a ladder kind of set up. And was it me, him? I think I want to say, yeah. Because they were supposed to, I think that buildup was kind of weak because they were supposed to, because, you know, Ria's. judgment day and Mia came in to help the

OC so they're supposed to have their little back and forth going on which they didn't really play that story out because they didn't really go at each other that much but I think I think she's the one that put her through the ladder when Nikki

first came in she had that a little jacket or whatever whatever she was wearing I was thinking do you better take that all I was just going to get in the way but she she put it to work. She started whipping all the gals with it. Usually there's

refs in the ring. I think the only one that was in the ring with them was a cameraman. And they bumped into him a few times. He kept trying to get out of the way. But I mean, he was only limited because he was in that little center, a little aisle in between the rings.

So I thought that was cool. Because yeah, some of those gals, when they got too close to him, they slammed into him. Yeah, because when Bailey came in, she threw in the, the ladders and everything who threw in the tables was that Becky? Uh,

let me see. I think it was Becky. Because he had cute. He came with the, with the candor sticks. Uh, I think when Mia came in, it was,

I think the chairs and the trash can lids. So I think, I think Becky was the table. Uh, I think Ria came in with tables because I'm watching it now. Becky just ran and just went straight in. I don't like her

ringwear she's wearing now. She should go back to how. Stupid shit on her shoulder. Yeah, I think it would just get in the way, if anything, or someone tear it off. Yeah, because her attitude's back to being the man, but the way she dresses is still that

big time Beck's bullshit. I like all that. I think that out of all the stuff that they threw into the ring. I think this stuff that got the most use were the garbage can lids. But you can clearly see they took off the handles because they were just slam at each

other. Me and M. She's slam. I can't remember who she slammed on one of the garbage cans and it looked like one of them caught a corner. I can't remember who it was, but I remember when she picked her up and slammed her down. I was like damn, I'm like, especially these garbage cans because when somebody

lands on them, it folds and then there's a sharp-ass point. But I don't know. They just try to be as careful as they can. What's your name is the one that came in with the tables when Rea Ripley came in. But I assume we're going to get another match with Becky and Bailey since Bailey's been back. And they used to be friends and this and that. I'm like, cool.

I can get some of my nerves. Yeah. we're recording this on a Monday I caught a little bit of raw so just say yeah you're right we're gonna continue with that feud yeah I want

I want Ria to get the the belt again I mean beat the hell out of Becky beat the hell out of Bailey but yeah because when Ria came in she just was just started fucking everyone she went straight after Becky Lynch

and was just throwing her all over the place. But then Bailey kept interfering. Bailey wasn't doing much, man, because every time

she tried to attack Becky, she would just get just beat up and then fall. So, but yeah, when,

when they, we have, because when they set up the tables, I was waiting for someone to use it, but then that's

when they put Dakota Kai and El Skye on the table and Becky climbed up the top. Again, I don't know how high that is,

but to come down on your tailbone, I mean, Yeah, she Dakota, Dakota Kai took most of the impact. I was like, man, I probably broke ribs or broke something. She probably had a fucking couldn't get up the next day. But that was cool. I liked how when Becky just, she didn't jump.

She kind of like just stepped off and landed on it. But I always try to watch. Obviously, they're not going to show, but when Oscar does the blue mist or whatever, I think it's blue now. It was green before. But I was looking when I was watching I was going to see where she gets this before she

someone must hand her something so she puts it in her mouth because she was wrestling with a mouthful for a while throwing chicks around. Then she finally spit it out on Ria Ripley. Reh sold that. Yeah, she did.

That was kind of like the end of her after she got spit on. she just fell down and was rolling around. She just rolled to the edge. And that was really much it. But yeah, after Becky dove off the top or stepped off the top and landed on him, Dakota went crashing to the table as well as E.O. Sky. And then Becky Lynch pinned Dakota Kai.

And that was it. So team Bel Air won that one. again this match was awesome CBS sports gave it a A minus Out of what we saw I would give this an A plus Because this was this was a really good way

To kick off the show This next one We've seen them go at it multiple times And I was just kind of like not really Super excited I would have probably been more excited If Finn Ballard came out as the demon But man

We weren't excited in this dream match no the original leaders of the bullet club even though they couldn't say bullet club yeah the AJ styles and Finn Baller went at it they gave it a B plus

again both of them are awesome and they were all over the place and then beating the hell out of each other but the O.C those guys kind of got involved from man at Dominic Mysterio and Damien Priest. All right, Dominic Mysterio. I like him.

I like him. I mean, of course, yeah, we all know wouldn't love his dad. But I'm like, what are you guys doing with him? Did you see, um, the Thanksgiving video? Yeah. Yeah. When Dominic and Ria showed up at Ray's house and went in there and he,

beat up his dad. I was just like, oh, come on. Now one family member stepped in to help. Yeah, nobody. They just let him get beat up.

Dominic, stop. He started picking up pictures and breaking up. I was kind of like, oh, come on. Who is Reusian?

In real life? Yeah. What's his name in A.W.? Buddy Matthews. Yeah. Kind of like, we all know. she's seeing her but then I guess

you still got to stay in character for this show and she was rocking the Who's your Poppy shirt one night I was like oh it's all right man I really riffly I love her

but yeah anyway yeah this match um it was good but it's just we've seen it before yeah so I wasn't really like super duper excited or hype for it i was kind of uh back and forth looking at

my phone and talking uh to my son while this one was going on yeah this should have been the oc versus the judgment day match yeah it probably would have been better if it was all of them in it but i mean a j and fin baller they amazing performers because uh they're both high flyers and all that, which I love, especially Finn Baller. But it just didn't do nothing. It was, well, to me, I mean, I'm sure guys and gals that are super duper diehard fans of these two, who I probably loved it. But I just wanted a little bit more, and I didn't get it.

AJ Styles ended up pinning Finn Baller for the win. So, but yeah. I agree with everything you're saying And I really thought that Finn should have picked up the win Because I kind of I ended up really liking what they're doing with the judgment day And putting the focus on Finn Because they've been kind of wasting him So it just kind of didn't make any sense for him to lose this match

Yeah I mean I liked it when he went over to NXT for that minute and everyone was just saying that he was trying to bring up that brand I was like they didn't need him but that was my opinion but the next match I was really really excited

for but oh my god it was it was just not not good we knew what the outcome was going to be of course we were I mean they basically oh well before we ronda out the smack down women's championship ronda rousey's a champ taking on shotsy a khaity blackhart um i love both of them i like ronda i never really had issues with her uh coming onto the show i know

a lot of people did all they're just can give her the bell because of who she is of course um but she she has proven herself i've said this before she has proven herself time and time before So I'm all right with Rhonda Where she's at right now I love her as a heel right now too Yeah I'm not digging what they're doing with her now Her and Shana Basel together Yes

If you follow Shana Basler She doesn't wear makeup She's a cute gal But when she puts on the black eyeliner Yeah I'm down I don't like when Rhonda does it just look normal. You don't need to add all this extra to your face.

Yeah, just have her look, how she, when they do like the backstage stuff during Smackdown, and she's, you know, rocking the leather coat and the hair down. Yeah. Just do that. And then you can have to go, like, super hard on the eye makeup. But Shotsie, she's, she's just fucking hot. I love her.

I've loved her since the indie days and during all the hood slam stuff. She's from the Bay Area. so of course I got to go with her I actually got my my Shatsy figure right in front of me I had to order it online because I couldn't find it in the store anywhere Why did I get it from

I think it was wrestling collectibles or something like that but yeah I love it when she comes out in the tank and everything but yeah this match was it was really short

and CBS Sports gave it a D because Ronda's just I don't know why they couldn't just let Shati win which kind of shake it up and maybe Ronna can get it again later down the line

but I mean because they had that whole buildup for Smackdown for to get the opportunity to go against Ronda and Shotsie ended up winning it seems like there's really setting it up for what's their name to be the next

big contender what's the name Raquel I think she'll good I think it would be a good match between them too I mean Raquel's big I mean tall so I'd love to see that and did you read that they they muted out a certain

chant that was going on during the match because people just thought the crowd was completely dead for this match but they were actually muting out a chance for your girl to I'm out. They wonder. I was like,

because yeah, I was like, well, what's happening? Why? Why is everyone so quiet? I was like, everybody fell asleep or something?

Yeah, I was kind of like, I'm not, I'm not getting what's going on here, but I don't know. We'll see because, yeah, they were,

they were shins. Oh, my God. They were chins for my girl. We want Sasha. I mean, understandable, it was her hometown. Yeah, but they had to, yeah, they had to mute all that. I can't remember which pay-per-view, they were all chan seeing punk,

but they left all that in, they didn't care, but all right. And some people were saying, oh, that's just to let everyone know that punk's coming back. I don't, I don't think so. I don't think he'll come back to WWE. A lot to work. a lot to work through for that. If he came back like for the

Rumble and they threw like million dollars at him that would be awesome but I don't think punk would do it. I don't know if they would have him back. I mean if it was like them button heads and then him kind of leaving his other company because of shit like that, they're probably thinking what's he going to be like now to work with?

Yeah. Yeah, I think after all the stuff that went on over AEW. I don't think they would ever bring him back. Yeah, again, this match, it was really not. I guess it wasn't nothing special. I wanted it to be because I love both of these gals.

And Shana, she got involved. I love when Shati went and dove through the ring and knocked Shana Bezler down. And Shana was just, she does what she does in the ring. But I was kind of like, I mean, dollars for donuts, Shana and Rhonda could probably whoop everyone's ass in real life.

They came to it. But I don't know. But I think Raquel would put up a good fight. But the part that made me laugh in this match is when they fell out of the ring. And Shane kind of got involved for a minute. Shatzi took her out, and then she grabbed Rhonda and threw her over the barricade. And then she threw, I'm watching this, and then she threw Shana over the barricade. They both get up and Shati climbs up onto the barricade and runs and cross bodies on both of them.

But luckily there was these three seats that were sticking out into the aisle with two gentlemen and a young woman. and they all go crashing in. Oh, you're talking about the random fans? Yeah. I liked it. It was cool and it was funny, but I was like, come on,

why are these three seats sticking way out into the aisle? But I didn't, I didn't write this costume. I mean, if you go to like indie shows, sometimes they do go crashing into the crowd and it's not planned, but this is

WWE. Everybody's got to work safe and obviously those are probably up and coming wrestlers. Yeah, I'm looking at it now. I don't know. Maybe they usually just have three random seats in the Iowa like that. No, because later when you go back and they show it,

those seats are gone. Maybe they realize they shouldn't have seats there. It's a hazard. But yeah, right after all that, I thought that was cool. Ronda and

Shati climbed up to the top rope and then Rhonda just fucking flung Shatsy over and then she went crashing but she tried to tap her out but she didn't. But Ronda of course she does a Piper's Pit and slam Shotsie to the ground.

I hate that move. I hate that move so much. I mean I'll give it to Ronda. She's strong because I love how she gets it into the Piper's pit. how she rolls it up and then picks them up. And then like from the ground, just all her might picks them up and then slams them and everything. This is not enough impact on the slam for me to believe.

That's a finishing move. But she's got to do her signature arm bar. She's clearly bending the elbow in the right way. Yeah. As soon as I saw that, I said, okay, this is over. And it was. I mean, like immediately shotsy,

tapped out. So, but I mean, the three of them, especially Shana, when she got involved on everything, it was good.

But this match was just really too, was short. And of course, I'm going to be mad on the outcome. But we already knew who was going to win.

And so, but it was, it was nothing to ride home about. But I do have, I do see it. I see Shana and Ronda going at it sometime in the,

in the future. If not in the distant, hopefully in the near. Because I think that would be a good match. But something's going to happen. I think Shane is going to do something to piss Rhonda off. And then they're going to beat the hell out of each other. And then Rhonda's probably going to disappear for a while again. But I don't know.

We'll see. All right. This next one, I wasn't really excited for it. But man, this was a good match. This was the United States championship match. the Monday night Messiah Seth Fenn Rollins and the architect

and whatever else he want to call him he's a champ and he took on the almighty Bobby Lashley and dumb ass Austin theory

A town down Oh fuck And you got to have This new change of character is better than the selfie taking one Yeah I'm glad That he stopped that nonsense

And I'm sure it wasn't his idea to do it. I just hate him. I'm sorry, everyone. If you're an Austin Theory fan and he's a good-looking kid, I can give him that, but I just don't know.

I just don't like him. That was Vince's boy before he left. But with that, set aside, he does work. He puts in the work when he's in the ring. Because he, he, this,

I wouldn't say this match, surprised me on what he can do because, I mean, he always does it, but he was obviously the one that these two didn't want nothing to do with because right in the very beginning, Bobby Lashley just clothes lines him and then throws him out. And then his dumb ass climbs back up with the ring and then Seth Rowe's close lines him and throws him back out. So I was kind of glad that they were just beating the hell out of him and throwing him to the side while they could go at it. but again Bobby Lashley

Big Brute doesn't age he looks exactly the same when he first came on the scene if not bigger but he's still cool I like what he does and Seth Rollins

man you can't go wrong with him I'm still mad that he stole the belt from Roman Rains at WrestleMania 32, 3 whatever that one was the heist of the century

or whatever the fuck it was I'm still mad. I can still see it. I mean, we were hyped. And then when his music hit, I immediately went, no. And then he came hauling as that ramp was long. If you were there at that WrestleMania, or you watched it, dude.

That was a long haul. Couldn't get the NWO to run down there. They were hobbling along. And they took forever to get to the rink when they came out. but um this match was awesome man I thought it was good and again Austin theory other than them

just beating them around he he held his own with them um he was he was taking a lot of hard bumps but he was also giving him because he was beating the shit out of uh Bobby lashley for a little bit but I didn't like the outcome

but I was like ah but I kind of knew where they were going mainly because Austin Theory was was taken such a beating. Yeah. But, I mean, that was, that was, the CBS Sports gave this one an A. I would, I would have gave it an A plus because I really did. This was probably the second best match of the night. Yeah.

I liked it. I like what they're doing with, I'm not a fan of Austin Theory, but I like the attitude change, the more serious take on it. And I could see them putting the belt on, taking the belt off of, Rollins, I see they're moving Rollins into a more of a baby face character. Mm. Uh-huh. We'll see.

I mean, I can baby face heal. I can take Rollins either way because, excuse me, no matter what he does, he's still, he's still awesome in the ring. So either or I can take him. But I think my,

the most excited thing for, for me during this one, was the end was the end match oh that was just I wasn't expecting that at all I mean because it just happened so fast

on what was I'm trying to get to the part so I can exactly remember what it was are you talking about the finish yeah I think it was Seth Rollins gave Austin the superplex right into the

Falcon Arrow and as he was picking him up Bobby came in for the spear and spear Rollins and then I think that's when Austin kind of landed on him for the pin because yeah right before that

Bobby Lashley and Austin Theory were down and Ronald went stepped off Austin Theory's back in Curbson stomped. Bobby Lasley.

I thought that was really cool. But yeah, now they're up on Bobby Lashy's laying there. Seth Rohn's Superplex,

Austin Theory, and then picks them up again. And then Bobby Leslie speared Seth Rones and Austin Theory came down and just

boom, pinned Seth Rones. But that one, it was kind of right before all this. Seth Rons. was he kind of got roughed up and he was like laying outside of the ring and bobby lashley and austin

theory were going at it and i think it was bobby lashy was getting about to pin austin theory and out of nowhere set ralins came flying in and just broke it up oh the with the splash off the top though yeah because the way they filmed it but we're we're just focusing on two guys are in the ring and just out of the left side of the of the picture set thrallons comes do you just landed on top of him, but when they showed the replays when we saw him, you saw him climb up and dive off. But I was like, I was going off during this match. It was awesome.

I wasn't expecting this one to be that good. I mean, it's just because I hate Austin theory. But, I mean, he held his own, man. And he's a champ now. But that spirit was kind of weak. He, like, just kind of grabbed Seth. And Seth just fell. and had to sell it.

But I did like the crowd reaction. There was some Austin Theory fans there. They kind of jumped in hoot and holler, but everyone else had their mouths open like, what? And all that. What was with his stupid wristband? What is it?

The now? He's the now? I don't know. He's the dumb. I don't know. Do you hear they're trying to allegedly building up a match with him and John Sina? at WrestleMania.

John Cena will run through him. Oh, I did like when Bobby Lashney put the Hurlok on both of them. The double hurd lock. Osce Ther was basically just sandwiched between them two. It was hell of weakly good, but it just made me laugh. So, but I was all right with it. All right.

On to the main event. before we diving the main event did you watch the press conference after i didn't i didn't i was just like yeah but i mean throughout um in between the matches they were hyping up uh sammy zane and not what his loyalty is to the bloodline and tell me so my tribal chief shut up He's He's He's a

He's uh He's uh He's uh He's uh He's uh So no But all right Uh

The main event Uh The men's war games Was uh Team Bloodline Roman Range J Uso Jimmy Uso

Sammy Zane And Solo Sikoa Sikoa Yeah Against team Brawling Brutes Man Pete Dune, come on

To be Pete Dune again He didn't need to be Butch Shames, Butch, Rich Holland, Drew McIntyre, and Kevin Owens Um Seamus didn't do much I think he was just there It was mainly Butch and Ridge Holland

Because they were really going for it During this Seamus is getting old Yeah, Kevin Owens as well man He's the one that kicked it off He was going for it. I liked it. I know he's trying to build up his his feud with Roman.

We've seen that match before, but we haven't seen it like all the time. So I'm excited for that. I don't know if it will be WrestleMania or whatever, but I see that one being good, especially Kevin Owens, man. He's a little poorly, little chubby guy, but he still does what he needs to do. He can fly high.

He can do his flips and all that. So I think Kevin Owens can do it. will he win go ahead I'll say but can he win I would like to see that win but I don't want no one taking the belt away from

I'm a Roman guy I got my seat at the table and he's my tribal chief and I'll acknowledge him but you think he he's even close to being the one to take the belts off of Roman I say it's Cody

Um I got right I would be okay with that I wouldn't I wouldn't be mad But I like when Kevin Owens had his little run He was always talking hell of shit So I kind of see that again

I mean if Cody wins cool awesome But I don't see him Being as entertaining Uh As a champ like Kevin Owens will But I don't know We'll see But yeah the brawling brutes

Come on I just like how they had a camera mounted on one of the bars in the cages and everything because yeah, Butch kicked it off and then they brought all their team out. Who

came in first? Was it either Jimmy or Jay? I don't main event Jay. I get him confused. He's the one with the short hair. I still want to know whose idea was it. I dig it

and it's funny to bring in Sammy Zane into the bloodline. I was like who came up with this? I didn't like it in the beginning, but now I'm slowly starting to like it.

Because I'm glad that Sammy Zane is still there. I think this is just building up to something bigger. When he does leave the bloodline and they finally kick him out, I think it's going to be one of the Usos or I can see solo getting mad.

Why is this guy here? But I don't know. We'll see where it goes. But CBS Sports gave this match an A plus. I'm saying C plus B minus kind of in there. Yeah, I don't. Because I like the story they were telling because this constant, can we trust Sammy?

Is Jay going to flip out in costumes, you know, because of his distrust for the Sammy? You know, I liked all that. But it just, they didn't go hard enough for me like the women did. Yeah, because I don't think anyone flew off the top of the cage, did they? I don't even remember if there was any big, any big spots in this. Yeah, because they were just roughing each other up. I mean, Ridge Holland was, he was bringing it to the Oosols because he was throwing them, throwing them all over the place.

I know they kept throwing Butch into the cage like over and over. Yeah, but he's a little guy. So I could see there. I don't like that. Why can't he be P. Dune? Yeah, what was his thing? He was the bruiserweight? Yeah.

He'd fight anybody. I mean, and then he just was this little crazy guy, Butch. Yeah, I'm just. I'm like, all right, man, whatever. His little hat and his little suspenders. What happened to the vaudevillians or whatever the hell they were called? I think one's in the independence and the other one went to impact. But they brought in tables and stuff into this because Kevin Owens came running in and threw in chairs.

And they had tables in it because the crowd was hooting and hollering and one tables. and the girls, they did it. I mean, they did it here too, but it wasn't just, it wasn't really exciting. Because when Kevin Owens came in, he came in with the chairs and immediately went after the Uso's

and started fucking them up with it. But I love it when, when they get hit with the chairs, they just hit him in the back. But I don't know if it was, Jay. He kind of like,

Kevin Owens was coming at him with the chair and he just turned and put his back up so he can hit him. him. I was like, come on. I mean, don't make it so obvious. Kevin Owen was bad ass. Yeah, he came in and he brought it right to them,

beating the shit out of them. He gave him the DX chop and everything. You better stop stealing everybody's stuff. DX chop, stunner. Yeah, it's like everybody's stealing one another's in the was it the Man Slam or whatever? Rock bottom.

the hell man the manhandle slam yeah that that's the rock bottom what are you talking about but oh man when solo came in man he's fucking

he's a little brute too man he was beating the hell out of everybody yeah he does the rock bottom except they call it the swinging solo Roman ring was the final one to enter the ring and I don't like this shirtless Roman Ray.

I just liked his little shield gear he wore for a while. You know it's for the ladies. Yeah. I mean, shit, if I had a body like that, I'd walk around no shirt either all the time. And I love their tattoos that all of them having. I think that's pretty sweet. Can't wait for Sammy to get his.

He better than out, man. you can have like remember um remember um maga had the fake uh face once yeah he can get like some of those oh man some of it would beat him up for that but it was like once all 10 men were in the group

because yeah the match doesn't actually start until all 10 are in so these guys are beating the hell out of each other and getting tired before the match even begins so but i like once they all got in they were uh each team was standing and in one ring and then they went at it

and I was going, all right, now they're all in. I'm expecting more and we didn't get much more in this. I mean, yeah, I was disappointed in this match. I mean, I like everyone that participated in this war games match, but it just, I don't know,

it didn't work. So, but, I don't know. I think this was just just a further along the same Zane storyline with the bloodline and it had nothing to do with anybody else on the on the other team I mean it was I think they build it up like they hype they make you hyped raw and everything when they're showing all right this is going to lead up to to work to Survivor series and then we get it and then I'm kind of

like hmm I was kind of disappointed but yeah even like they're hyping up like when Drew gets in there him and Solo Sokoa Because you know solo was the one that cost him his title They ain't really do nothing in there No They had a minute where they were like punching each other But like they didn't really go at it

As they were hyping it up I liked with Towards the end of the match When Kevin Owens and Sammy Zane were going at it And Kevin picked up Roman Rains laying on the ground and he was yelling at him. But then I think it was Jay

tried to super kick Kevin Owens, but he caught it, slammed him. But then Sammy Zane went low and gave Kevin Owens a nut shot. So he went down. I mean, the way Sammy Zane was in there, like, what did I do?

Because of course, the announcers, they used to be best friends. They were rivals in 18 and they were friends and now this and all that. I was kind of like, come on, shut up. Just yeah and is it just me I'm I'm I'm a fan of Sammy that he can go in the ring But is it just me or does it look like he forgot how to wrestle? Um, it seems like he just turned into comic relief yeah if anything

Because I remember him being this goofy yeah like when he first came in and I forgot who was like laying on the ground Remember he jumped on them was just kind of doing them like little little fast little stomp moves yeah I was like what are we doing yeah it was it was not good but yeah after um they roughed up uh

Kevin Owens uh Sammy Zane kind of walked around and was looking like uh what are we doing and then he just kind of laid out uh Kevin Owens and then Jay is Jay the one's long hair

no it's a short hair yeah Jimmy is Jimmy is came off for the splash and then he pinned um kevin owens did he just sell his soul to the devil or whatever they were saying i don't know man i tell it's like some of these comments just shut up you know who that was your boy oh but the bloodline yeah the bloodline won uh this one but sammy zanes like kind of confused or the looks on him

he's like am I is my loyalty to the bloodline or to my so-called best friend but well he's confused up until

the embrace from Jay yeah he got Sammy Uso got super hyped he got Ousey start tearing off his shirt oh fucking

Roman Rains hold out his arms and then hugs him. But you can see that the brothers are mad because Jay's like just sitting there like rolling his eyes as Roman Raines is cuddling Sammy's thing

because both the brothers and Solor are standing there looking at him. Lucy. They're going to beat him up. Something's going to happen whether Sammy's going to turn on them and they're going to beat him up. but I want all of them to beat them up. No, they're going to have solo beat them up and one of the,

one of the Uso's, I think, I think Jimmy, because they have their little special handshake is going to try to save them. And this is going to be like the split up of the bloodline. Sammy's ain't screaming, what now? Turns old shut up. That's the definition of Ousey. I mean, you got to work. So, yeah, man, to do what you got to do.

But I want to know whose idea this was to get him in all of this. Yeah, because the Uso, they all hugged him. Solo just kind of like just stood there, looked at him. So, yeah, I kind of said that happened. There is a video on YouTube. I guess Sammy got him to, got solo to break character and kind of laugh because he had to like acted like he was wiping his face with his towel

but he was like covering his face laughing yeah Survivor Series war games the women's war games match was awesome and the Seth Rones and Almighty and

dumb ass awesome theory those to me were the main two matches that like just fucking and ruled. But I don't know. We'll see with what they're doing. What's next? Role Rumble?

Yeah, Role on January 28th. So this was the last, what the fuck did they call it? P-L-E pay-per-view. We'll just keep calling them pay-per-views because we're old enough to call them pay-per-views. Last one for the year. Yeah.

I mean, there's. there is that nxte deadline thing when's that one December 10th all right well it's supposed to be some kind of new innovative match

with like a whole bunch of people involved and points and the winner gets like a title shot or something I heard they're supposed to be bringing back some old nxte people to be in a match I don't know we'll see but oh fucking totally forgot about him the the prince of fucking darkness

Ozzy Osbourne uh kind of kicked the show off yelling and screaming shit while they were playing war pig Black Sabbath's war pigs and um I love Ozzy I've been a fan of his since I was a little kid but I don't know whatever song they were hyping up that's on his new new album or whatever. I mean, I'm glad that Ozzy's still alive and he's still

putting out music. I think he's about to retire and move back to England. I'm sorry, Oz. I don't dig the new stuff. Give me Black Sabbath and old Ozzy and everything, but that's me, everyone. I mean, but I've been a fan of

Ozzy since the 70s. We're doing the Black Sabbath stuff, but yeah I know he was in the news for a while because they were both talking about the they're tired of what's going on in America and they want to go back to England and everyone's out well fuck you go back I'm like

shut up I mean he's Ozzy he can do what he wants he don't care what you guys think he's still got millions and millions of dollars he's got that reality money he's got that rock star money and everybody's using his music

and movies. So, I mean, he's getting that cut, but also the rest of Black Sabbath and everyone else, or when they just do his solo stuff in movies. So you can't go wrong with that. WWE Survivor Series war games. Just those two matches to me

were the best ones and we'll see where it goes. And I still think Sammy Zanes is mad that are kind of sad. that he had to beat up his buddy Kevin Owens

so we'll see because I'm looking at this picture and Kevin Owens is basically in Sammy Zane's arms and Sammy's looking all sad and Kevin Owens is looking like he's all beat the hell but maybe it'll be a Roman and Sammy

at WrestleMania Sammy takes the undisputed title if that happened it would be a mistake on why Roman loses I know that that can't know that well that no that well that won't fly that won't fly with that

even if they brought that up to roman hey man we want you to drop the belt to sammy zane he would like what but i don't know um we'll see where it goes because uh he's been champ for a minute now yeah over two years yeah so they got to do the rock thing i don't know bring back night jacks but i don't think she's coming back They bring back Naomi. She's technically bloodline. Yeah. Where's Tamina at?

Tamina is getting her ass kicked in a dark match I've seen. Her too, man. I think she could whoop some ass, like for real. I think she can handle hers. But they just, they're just stringing her along. But I don't know. It's WWE, everyone.

We'll see. but when was the NXT one again? December 10th. All right, but all right, we'll be back with that one and that'll probably be the last

wrestling returns for the year. Sorry we didn't do the last few pay-per-views. I mean, for me, life and everything was going on. And it's a silly season, the holidays,

and sometimes I'm just not feeling, feeling it. Not feeling. feeling it for the shows. I mean, I wasn't want to do the shows, but sometimes you just not feeling how it is. I don't think anybody's feeling the holidays. No, because it is, it is a depressing season as well. I mean, if you are dealing with depression, and you have those thoughts, please don't, don't do it, don't act

on it. I'm only saying this because of a friend of mine that did. he did he did take his life during the holidays and it's this is always kind of reminder uh when this happens but always reach out to someone and help yourself help yourself get better I mean there's we want you here we want you to keep listening to me bitch and complain about this and that and everything but we we want you here if you don't know us and we don't know you hey, we love you and you have a friend.

You have two friends. You have two friends. You have two brothers right here that'll listen to you if you need someone to talk to. Even the well is the Zisu over on East Society. He's right there with me when we talk about stuff like this. But we got through November. Now we got to get through December. And then we can start that clock over again for the new year.

Because that's what I'm always waiting for. It's just as soon as January 1st hits And I'm like Feels like a ton of bricks I lift it off me And then I got to just do that next year And everything, but We got a lot of stuff

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