The Horror Returns - THR - #465: Interview With The Vampire (1994) & Sinners (2025)

Episode Date: April 25, 2025

Jay, Pedro, and Nez join us for gothic vampire week. Cool of the week includes Andor, Wrestlemania week, Night Gallery, Black Mirror, Ash, and The Woman in the Yard. Trailers are Predator: Badlands, Him, and I Know What You Did Last Summer. The podcast spotlight shines on Haunt Girls: A Halloween Horror Nights podcast. And we get feedback from Michael Arnaz, Tom Landrith, David Barta, Pat Caruso, Todd Haig, Damien Johnson, Michael Topping, Kaba Otto, Micky Hannen, Graham Tyler, Drumdums, and The Corpse Collective. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR Threads: https://www.threads.net/@thehorrorreturns?igshid=NTc4MTIwNjQ2YQ== THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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This is Lance, and you found the horror returns. I've got my co-host, Brian Phillip, our sometimes co-host Pedro, who ran the March Madness tourney for us this year. Thank you very much. But we got a Nesbe jump on later. We got a blast from the past. Jay Black, creepy 209 guy.

What's up, man? We're bad in a long time. It's been a long time since I got to chat with you guys, man. Still remember having fun in Dallas, man. I still remember that. That's a... I've never forget that. I'm glad to be here.

Good time. Feels like a lifetime ago. It does. It does. All right. Well, we get a lot of coverage. Let's better. Before we get going, I, I mean,

My brain is all fogged up from years of alcohol and drugs, but I believe we're also together in Chicago, right, Jay? We were, yes. Yeah, that's right. Yeah, Chicago, absolutely. Tell me, my wife had to have a fucking hospital emergency. Oh, that's right. That's right.

Oh, shit. Yeah. She's fine now, but I had to skip the trip. She's fine. Like eight years ago. No, she's good now. Well, we got to all get together again. guys and I'm thinking

even Brian can make it this time because you get cheap flights to Vegas can't you Brian from from where you're at I don't know what that word means cheap seems like everything's expensive nowadays we just the last thing strippers have to go somewhere and I guarantee you it's to Vegas

strippers come here Phil oh Alaska okay yeah all right Well, shit, y'all ready to jump in? Cool of the week. Jay, you want to go first? Yeah, yeah.

I'll go for. Okay, so my cool of the week is going to be, I'm going to focus not so much on what I saw. I want to focus on the experience. So when you watch something, and sometimes you're not prepared for it, and it just blows your mind. You're like, man, this is like the greatest thing ever. And then you got like fired up. Then you get that sinking feeling. You're like, here comes the sea.

equals. Ah, shit. Here it comes. You know, and then the height builds up. The height builds up. More times than not, the height doesn't meet up, right? You get those rare chances, Empire, Dark Night and all stuff like that, right? So Michael the week is Andor, Star Wars. Oh, nice. When that first came out, you know, there was a lot of, is it going to be good, is not? It's a rated at our Star Wars and you had all this, whatever. But it's a carrier, probably a carry piece. It's a personal piece, right? It dwell so much into the persons and to the people and you get to know these characters and all that.

And it's just fantastic. I don't know of any bad character, any bad dialogue, probably the greatest dialogue of all time came from, of all time in Star Wars, came from the character Lutheran, right? So what is it? Two years and it goes by and season two is coming out. You're like, oh, shit, here we go. Here we go. And, you know, in the back of mind, because you're seeing all these dizzy, shows and you're anticipating, you know,

Mandeloyant was good for season one, season two, three kind of dipped down. Everybody in the world is above a fed if you're crazy. I got this in 1997, just to kind of show you. All the long time ago, right? Bluquifathe comes out, it's okay. So anticipation is high for Andor.

Comes out, fucking nailed it. Nailed it. So I think I was more excited about the anticipation that I was waiting for, actually was met. And then I was like, okay, now I got to soak this in. You got to soak in the characters. You got to soak all this in. So my cool of the week is the experience of the hype of the, you know,

the part two that was coming out. So that's what that's my cool of the week right there. Nice. Good to hear it, man. Good to hear it. But I noticed you're living out, you're leaving out the most important part, which is your thoughts on when the event finally arrived. And the first three episodes that they dropped.

Is that a cool of the week for you as well? It was. Yeah, yeah, absolutely, yeah. Although it took me a couple of days to do it. I got a three-year-old. Yeah, no, very interesting. I don't get to watch anything. You know, it takes us, you know, three days to watch a two-hour movie.

But I was able to watch the night of. I watched the first episode. And then actually yesterday, when I came home from sinners, you know, kind of calmed her down and, you know, I had to go pick up my daughter at 1.30 in the morning from work. So I was able to stay up and watch. the last two episodes or two and three. So, yeah, I mean,

and it's the same thing, man. You got, the crazy thing is you have like four or five stories going on at the same time. Very epic. You're in pace. You're moving along. You're like, okay, I got this. Okay, I got this. You're not confused.

You're like, okay, what's going on here? What's going on there? You know, it's not like you're lost behind or whatever. It stays in pace and these characters are just fantastic. I love it. No lightsabors, no force. know nothing and it's fantastic. Well, not yet anyway, because I think

Darth Vader's in it. He'll pop up by one time or sometime or another. That's what Ness was speculating. But then again, you're talking about Darth Vader, right? So my greatest Darth Vader moment is Rogue One, which is tied to Andor, right? So it all kind of ties that in. For me, when you first see him, everybody's afraid of him. They're like, oh, shit, it's Vader.

Oh, he's such a badass. He's such a badass. In reality, he doesn't really do much in the original movies. You know, cuts off with Sontan and all that. But he doesn't really do much until Empire does a little bit to scare the shit out of people. The end of the road one, he just tore through those people. You're like, that's the beta I want.

That's the one I want right there. You're right. So the height from there going into the Endor show, first season, oh, there's a height. Hit it. Season two, hit it. It was like, oh. And this is the last season. So what's ended on a high note, and I'm happy.

My favorite Vader scene of all time is I think it was in the Asoka Tano show where I think is that I get all these shows confused. All these Dave Filoni shows confuse the shit out of me. But there's a scene where he's fighting that African American girl. And I swear he has one hand behind his back. And he's just like fighting with one. Like he's literally just using one hand because he could do it. He's Darth fucking Vader. And he purposely.

And he purposely has the other hand in his back. He's literally just chilling, just fighting this chick. You know what I'm saying? And she's like one of the badasses of the show. So I just tells you how much of a badass he is. That was Obi-1. That was Obi-1. Obi-1, yeah, Obi-1.

He didn't even have his lightsaber, right? He was just like, move in. Yeah. Yeah. What an asshole. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

He's a badass on that, yeah. Greatest horror villain, according to our March madness. Not true at all. Thank God for this year's. Mark Madness, yeah. Right, so. Yeah. Pedro, what's you got?

Well, I'm sure Brian would agree with me on this. It was WrestleMania week. Oh, yeah. That's kind of like our Super Bowl of, you know, if you're a wrestling fan. So it's a Super Bowl. Yeah, it is the Super Bowl for us.

One of the, one of the more, I was very let down by the show itself, but the whole week is a whole thing because you have Monday Night Raw on Monday, NXT on Tuesday, AW does your thing on Wednesday, it's just wrestling all over the place. And then you have all these little independent shows

that are now being like streamed. Like you have something called the collective, which is all these little independent shows. So if that's your thing, they have Bloodsport, which is kind of like a quasi-shoot promotion. And by shoot, I mean like real fighting, but it's still wrestling,

but it's more realistic. So it's just the time where like, there's a lot of time. Hawk, you know, and just a lot of excitement. Just in Super Bowl, like I said, that's a perfect analogy. So this year, it was in Vegas of all cities, you know, where the Raiders play. The set looked phenomenal. I thought the set was one of the, it was like a top 10 set of all time.

My favorite one is still the one I was at, the one in LA that had like the cinema thing going on. But I thought the show itself was very underwhelming. I thought the main event was John Cena versus. Cody Rhodes didn't really deliver. I think John Cena looks a thousand years old in there. He just hasn't been able to keep up with these younger guys.

There was a spot where John Cena's kicking Cody Rhodes and he looked like Bobby De Niro did in the Irishman. But he was like the age, but he's still an old man kicking.

So that's exactly how John Cena look and I was like oh yeah we're in for for a fucking horrible and we were it never got good it never got good uh don't seen is not a young buck anymore even even with all steroids and and the hair replacement therapy that he's been getting uh yeah because he had a big old ball spot there and it's just gone now yes herrigan so um so i think the big controversy coming out of this show was at the rock i mean he was never advertised but the storyline would tell you he would be there and he just never showed up. And there's a lot of stuff going on with that, that I'm not going to get into on this show,

but there's a lot of controversy. Essentially, he's just kind of doing what he wants, and he's kind of interfering with a lot of these storylines. So it kind of, you know, the whole WrestleMania week kind of ended kind of in a whimper. But then Monday Night Raw was really good. Like, that was a really good show. So it kind of made up for it a little bit. You know, the usual raw after WrestleMania,

where they have a lot of new guys coming in, a lot of new angles. So that was cool. So now we'll see what they do on Friday. You know, because I think Cody Rhodes comes back on Friday, and I guess he's going to cut his, like,

like comeback promo and stuff. So we'll see, but that's been my cool of the week. Just been really busy with just wrestling stuff, you know? Yeah. I've been out of wrestling for so long.

You know, back, I think who was at the top back in my day was, Hogan was going out, Ultimate Warrior was coming up, so I'm really doing myself. I've dated myself. So who's the top dog? Now, there's always the top.

You know, Hulk Hogan was the top. And then when he left, it became, I want to say, Brett Hart. Then it was, what, Stone Cold and Undertaker. Then it went to the Rock. And then John Cena. Who's the top guy now? So, like, everybody knows. There's always the top dog.

Well, that would be Cody Rhodes right now, which is Dusty Sun. Did you ever see, yeah, yeah. So, he would be considered the top guy. Now, it's interesting where wrestling is sat now because mainstream is not as popular. Obviously, there's a lot of people who don't know Cody Rhodes, but the fan base that it has now is, they're willing to spend more money on the product. So even though the product is not as popular, it feels bigger because the fan base is willing to support it more. And they'll pay, I mean, this rest of the money of prices, you were talking about $10,000 for front row. You know, that's how insane.

Jesus Christ. And people pay it. But, yeah. It was like $200 for cheap seats. Yeah, it was insane. That's why I didn't go. I mean, I'm four hours away from Vegas. And I'm like, no, I'm good.

I'm going to just chill and watch it at home because some of these prices. And then you have to go two nights because they cut it up into two nights now. So you have to buy two tickets. Oh, man. Wow. They get it. I did see the Netflix show on a Mr. McMahon, which I thought was truly. I thought it was interesting.

I mean, it's interesting. Yeah, it is interesting for sure. So he's not in it no more, right? No, no, he, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, they, so. So, to pair, I'm gonna, I, I keep going back to Star Wars and now, to parallel Star Wars, it's, Lucas is out, George Lucas is out, and you kind of saw the quality kind of dip down. Are you guys seen the same thing? Now, now, McMahon, their Lucas is gone? No, no, actually, it's the opposite. It's been, no, wrestling hasn't been hotter.

It's been, yeah, sellout after sellout. Storylines have been amazing. That's good. Yeah. Look, Vince McMahon was close to 80 years old. He was out of touch, you know, and obviously, when you're trying to connect to a general audience, you have to have some youth under your belt. You know what I'm saying?

Because you can't think, like, the general audience, unless you could relate to them in some way. And this guy was 80, and he's a billionaire. He has, there's no relationship with the general audience. So, so, so. So I think it was for the betterment of the business that he stepped down. And Triple H, who's his son-in-law, I mean, he's not a young guy either, but he's not old either. I think he's about 52, 53.

So he has, you know, he has his finger on the post a little more than Vince did. And so, yeah, so, no, it's in a hot streak for sure right now. That's good. I mean, it's always best when, when I say the fans are the people who are interested in the product itself and not necessarily making a dollar. say like Disney wants to make a dollar off stars but you got the folks who are who who believe this right the wrestling is their life the storyline is their life and they want to protect the they want to protect the product for the most part right so those are the people you want in charge of that yeah for sure yeah and i and i think going back a little bit with star wars i think the problem with star wars is that

when when disney bought it it just flooded flooded it with they just put so much product out there fast. And, you know, the reason what we found in love with these characters is because of the scar city of the product, right? It's like, we only, for how many years did we only have like three movies? I mean, for years and years and years and then, and then even then we had six, and that was it. Now we're having two, two, three shows a year and we just get, and the quality has gone down because that's going to happen just because there's so much product. And then, and then the generation has gotten older, right? We get older and, you know, we want, we want to be married to that nostalgia and it's just hard because it's just nostalgia. It's not really based on

reality. And I think the younger generation hasn't gravitated through these characters. So that's also affecting it. Yeah. I see what you mean. I'm a big collector, action figure, stuff like that. And up until maybe a couple of years ago, most recently, I was still buying wrestling figures, but it was my error. You know, it was junkyard dog. It was Big John Stud. You know, I got Tito Santana, King Kong Bundy. Those guys, you know, Ultimate Warriors probably the newest character that I probably have or Yoko Zuna. I only got Yoko Zuna because it came with a tag team belt when I really needed that. So you got with the Heart Foundation, right?

Yeah, that big old butt. Yeah. Yeah. So I get what you're saying, man. I get what you're saying. I buy up to my nostalgia to what I know. Right. So anyways, that was Michael of the week.

Oh, there's next. All right. What about you, Nez? What's your cool of the week? I just bought, um, Night Gallery. the complete series Nice Was that one too

Nass I'm looking forward to it I got that one as well I picked it up I just wanted mainly just for one episode Because it's the only episode That I remember Out of however many

Because I used to watch him Late at night On Fridays And this is the one This one kind of spooked me Because I met the actor Later on a few years ago It was called

The Boy Who Can Predict earthquakes with the great Clint Howard. So I got to meet him and everybody was ice cream in and all the other things he had done with his brother. When I got to talk to him, I talked about just that. And he would kind of look at me like, whoa. He goes, yeah, that was a long time ago. And then he was saying, he goes, yeah, man, some of that stuff in it is scary because

it's like stuff that's happening now. It's very like black mirrorish to me. I remember that episode. So that's a good episode. Yeah, so I was like, that was the main reason I bought it because I could not find that episode anywhere. So I was like, all right, I said, well, 20 bucks or however, it was really cheap. I remember that for the whole complete run. I said, yeah, give it to me.

So I just watched that episode this morning. I still got all the other discs to go through. So, but yeah, as far as that and or, which just started, I haven't watched it yet. There we go. That was fine. the I want Kevin Bacon

The bondsman Oh yeah Brian posted that man That shit was hell of good I zipped through that whole season That was awesome And What's it on Hulu

Prime I gotta check that one out Oh You'll finish it like a day Yeah it's They're really quick Like less than 30 minutes Damn J

Is that a poster or is that like a shelf behind you? It's a shelf. It's all the original 70s, 80s, figures, stuff. Then, you know, just Death Star Shelf, Melania and Falcons, some other stuff, and my wife's name. Yeah, it's all there. That's crazy.

That's awesome, dude. Yeah, I got a big gallery story, too, man. When I was a little kid, I remember watching this TV show. I was at my grandma's house, and there's this next-door neighbor named Betty Riemy. She'd always like all the little kids come over and have ice cream and stuff.

And we were over a house one time. And I remember seeing this show with this guy, he kept looking at this painting and the painting would move. There was like somebody that was buried. And every time we looked at the painting, the person would come out of the coffin and closer and closer. And I remember that through my childhood up to adulthood. And then, oh man, this had been like five, six years ago.

Then I started having dreams about that episode. So, I mean, I scoured the internet looking for it. And I found out it was not. Knight Gallery, which was Rod Serley. Right? Not Serley. Yeah. Nightgallery. Yeah, that's the episode I remember. And I don't know the name of it. I don't know who the actor was. I just remember that painting. He just kept seeing like the dead person coming out and then knocking out the door

at the end of the episode or something like that. That's what I kept remembering about the episode that I mentioned. The painting for it was a little boy, like in a crystal ball. and Clint Howard, I mean, seeing him at a young age and, of course, a gentle band and all the other stuff he had done. But, I mean, he has that look at that you never forget. Even when he was a kid, he still looks the same. Just his hair's all crazy now.

He was a real cool guy, though, man. I mean, I sat down and talked to him for a while. I was like one of the last people in his line that day. So I wanted to be able to talk about that episode. I didn't even bring up anything else. he had done oh he signed my evil speak blu-ray i was like oh this is my favorite movie you were in all right on but we just we just kept talking about uh night gallery in that episode he was in nice yeah and that episode has a pretty trippy ending i wish i'm not going to give away here

because people need to try to watch it and it would be a spoiler but it's a trippy ending um yeah it's a good episode all right well i'll jump down for my cool week here i i finally caught up with the Black Mirror and they're back. This is definitely a better season than the last one. And I still think it's the best TV show on TV, man. It's awesome. Strong words, man. Yeah, like that first episode for this season was super duper depressing, but it was still

pretty good. And then it kind of only got better from there. Like, every single episode was pretty amazing. And I'm starting to catch up on Daredevil, badass fight scenes. They get some really good dialogue going. Nice. Yeah, I mean, I'm not too far into it,

but I love the first couple episodes. Yeah, I finally wrapped up Deer Devil, those last three episodes, the blood in them. Of course, Naz, you were talking with Theo, he said, man, that was rough. That last scene with Punisher, that was really violent. You're like, yeah, for you.

he doesn't watch the craziness that we all watch. It's all, he'll tell me, oh, watch this, watch that. It's real violent and bloody, you'll love it. And I watch whatever he tells me to watch. And I'm like, oh, please. So, black mirror, Philip. Yeah, for sure. All right.

Yeah, Brian usually goes last because he's got a laundry list, right? I can go through it this week I can go through them real quick All right what's you got I watched three very Underwhelming movies All the releases is due That's better than me

I'll start from the bottom Okay I checked out Remember we reviewed the trailer For a hell of a summer Sure Directed by Finn Wolfhard Oh yeah

What could go wrong What could go wrong Is that out Yeah, it is written, directed, produced, and he's not supposed to be a main character. Him and his friend also co-directing, co-wrote it with him. They're in the movie. They're not the main characters, but they're in a lot of fucking scenes. It's supposed to be a comedy slasher.

The comedy completely missed me. Every line. Bottom stand, it sounds like. It might be. it might be he might just need to stick to acting and playing in his band listen my kids say some shit like skibbitty toilet and think it's funny right i don't know i caught that one i caught that one in the theater because i was gonna you know it's a slasher um it was okay i mean i remember it was just okay

it was it was very cliche um and yeah you're right brian a lot of the jokes didn't hit with me but i don't think we're the demo for those jokes anymore at this point Um, one of the friends, I forget, because again, this is such a forgettable movie, but there was one guy that I thought really stole the show, the friend that, you know, yeah, he, that's what I, he's, I think he's, he was, you know, he's, I think he stole his show, but it was an okay movie. It was watchable, whatever. Then you just forget about it when you walk out of the theater.

Finn Wolfhardt's friend in the movie? Yeah, I think so. Yeah. Yeah, that's the, that's the co-director, co-writer. Okay. I'm telling you, if I tried to make a horror. comedy when I was 16 years old, it would come out super shitty. Yeah, but I think it's early 20s at least at this point.

I think he's about 40 now, isn't he? Oh, yeah, well, maybe. He will be when stranger things comes out. I don't know how they're going to finagle that. I mean, these kids do not look like kids anymore. Like, they don't even look like they look in the fifth season, so, or the fourth season. Yeah, 11's married to Bon Jovi's son now. Yeah.

He's supposed to be playing a kid. Is that a real thing? Yeah, I guess so. Eleven's pretty, she's hot, all right? We can say that. Yeah, she's hot. Oh, boy. Yeah, she's legal.

She was pretty hot in that last movie that she did on Netflix. Uh-huh. Oh. The dragons and shit. Yeah, that's right. Okay. Like, I mean, they made it a point to make her hot. Like, she was ripping off clothes and she just had like a bar of midriff going on and like a little bit of skirt.

To make herself hot if you see like social media stuff, you know. And I was like. Damn, all right. What else I got? I checked out Locked, starring Bill Scarsguard, and I don't know why they put it on the poster in the trailer, Anthony Hopkins. Okay. Basically, Bill Scarsguard is breaking into a luxury vehicle that he needs, he's down on his luck, trying to get money, breaks into the vehicle, gets locked in. and then it turns into this

PG-rated saw movie where Anthony Hopkins is the one behind all of this and he is totally miscast in this movie I completely expected you to say Anthony Hopkins was the AI

Yeah the voice Yeah No like that that would be Well he kind of was He was a voice throughout most of the movie Yeah, yeah, that was Shows up at the end with his gummy bears. That's right, that was another theatrical for me.

One of the things I didn't like about this film is that everything was so convenient to serve, like, the plot. Like, everything that he needed to serve the plot, the car just magically had, you know? And it was like, because essentially it takes place in a car. Maybe like the first 10 minutes are like, you know, what's his name? Skars, guard is walking around, but then he tries to break into this car. around the 10 minute mark he gets locked in there and the whole movie's him with the car with Anthony Hopkins

communicating to him through the car but anything that you could think about as a way for this guy to get out of the car the car just magically had something to counter that which is stupid you know and then obviously Anthony Hopkins thought about all this shit before so it was very convenient

so yeah there comes a point where you just get frustrated with all this shit and the majority of the movie you're just watching Skarsgar like thirsty yeah yeah and hungry yeah

yeah he does get a cookie though all right I think if I had to pick my two top AI voices it would be Anthony Hopkins and Scarlett Johansson right not not Keith David

or Samuel Jackson Keith David or David Keith David or David Keith Yes, that's a throwback right there. And finally, I checked out another movie. We reviewed the trailer on Ash, a sci-fi horror movie. Had like crazy visuals in it, but we had no idea what the story was about. Okay.

The visuals were on point. Like, I think this budget was like $1 million. And I would love to see the director. I think his name is Flying Lotus. he's like a music producer. Oh, yeah. Okay, I've seen some of his stuff. Yeah, this stars like Issa Gonzalez and Aaron Paul and somebody else was in this movie too.

Okay. Eco Ua is from the Raid movie who was severely underused in this movie. Yeah, he was very underused in this movie. I was like, what the boy is he the year? Is Aaron Paul one of the Paul brothers? No. Jesse Tickman. Oh, got you.

All right, that's better. his head. When his forehead shows up on screen, you know. Yeah, his forehead's big. It's like another cast member. Oh, boy. Is it related to Barry Bonds? Because his head does get bigger. Yeah, that's right. It was like King Griffith Jr. It looked like King Griffith Jr. in that Simpsons episode with all the baseball players.

I thought this movie was too slow pace. for me. Essentially, she wakes, Issa Gonzalez's character wakes up. She has amnesia. Her crew's been killed

and Aaron Paul shows up to, as he says, to rescue her, but she doesn't trust him and paranoia sets in and she's trying to remember what happens. And I just felt the movie was too slow pace for me. But I do recommend

this will be a cool to week just on the individuals alone. Like I said, if you give this guy a little bit more money and maybe help with writing the script, I think he can knock the movie out. All right. Yeah. If you give Eric Paul a cookie. Yeah, I enjoyed it when I saw it in the theater. I saw it in the

theater for that reason because they got that hype of being like this visual spectacle. So I'm like I got to see this in the theater. And I did like it for that reason. It's one of those like, you know, nothing is like it seems kind of movies. And then at the end, They kind of replayed the entire movie again to show you all the clues and what's really happening. Oh, okay. I like that. I like that schick.

Right. So it was okay. Another one that was like decently forgetable, I guess you could say. Yeah. And the music was pretty good, too. You could tell he was inspired by like John Carpenter. He did the music for the movie also. I got to check that one out.

Is that streaming or just out there? Wherever it is. Talk to Anonymous movie. I got you. Okay. All right. Well, I, uh, all right. I'll go, I'll jump in here.

It's this, we're going to end not with a bang, but a whimper because I got, I'm struggling here. Other than the, the films that we saw, I've been reading a lot, but I haven't, I haven't watched too much. I did finish Daredevil. Last three episodes were amazing. That would be my cool of the week, but I did it last week. So I'm going to, I'm going to go with, I'm going to go with this year's night swim, Pedro.

I really enjoyed a movie that I watched the trailer and I thought I had this fucking stupid stupid I'm gonna hate this this is horrible but it had some fun jump scares in it the woman in the yard have you all seen it I have it in the queue I haven't in the car it wasn't terrible I heard it's depressing it's it's it's Blum house those so I'm proceeding with caution I know I got blumbed I'm sure but it's my it's my night swim for this year so I wouldn't go that far I mean drop was your night swim you gave it the same score. Oh, that's right.

Did you guys do that one? Yeah. Oh man, that was garbage. It does seem like a night swim kind of love it, isn't it? Drop was no good. But woman in the yard, I wanted it to be scary and everything.

I mean, if you're dealing with what she's going through, I understood that and I felt her pain through the whole film. But I was kind of like, eh, okay, that's what you're doing here. And I wasn't satisfied with the ending. I was like, oh, okay.

Kind of cheesy. I had to have a cool of the weakness. Well, you could just stuck with Daredevil again. I guess, yeah, I guess. All right, Brian, we get any headlines? We lose you? Did he freeze? Yeah, you're there.

We can't hear you. You know what the spooky thing is? He's frozen, but his background is moving. Yeah. Can you guys hear me now? Yeah, you're not tricking. My mute button was stuck or something. Oh, fuck.

Okay. All right, horror headlines. Screen Gems is rebooting Urban Legend. Of course. Yay. The first one was cool. Second one. The second one?

man. The second one? I didn't like that one. I think there's a bunch of them. Anthony Anderson. I know there's three. Oh, there's three. I didn't even see the third one.

I tapped out of the second one. The three, the third one that goes supernatural. I think I've heard that. Okay. I don't think I've seen it, though. Let's see. Sam Ramey's Survival Horror, Send Help, has wrapped filming. And this star is,

what's her name is, Regina George, Mean Girl? Oh, um. Oh, like her. Stars her and Dillard O'Brien. Okay. What's the last thing Sam Ramey did? Last good thing was a doctor's, oh, good thing?

I was going to say Dr. Strange. Yeah, the first it was good. Oh, yeah. Oh, well, the second one. That would be the last one, Lance. Oh, I like that one too, man. That was, that was trippy. Had a lot of trippy.

I like the visualism. The guy that did Black Phone did the first one. Okay, I like the first one. I like both of them. I like both the Doctor Strange movies. The second one, yeah. Yeah. And it's some pretty good effects in it with the zombies.

Well, whatever. I'll give Sam Ramey a chance. Let's see. All right, we got news on Ready or Not. It's got a new title. It's called Ready or Not, Here I Come. Of course. Surprise.

And it adds New cast members Sarah Michelle Geller Elijah Wood And David Cronenberg Fucking sold What Okay

Why not That name a long time Yeah Drag me to hell The last thing Sam Ramee did It was good What was Drag me to hell

Can't remember it That was like what 20 years ago Yeah that was hella good It's been a while Yeah I didn't like that doctor the strange one. I'm like, yeah. All right, next.

Ryan Coogler, director of sinners, next project is my guy right there, rebooting the X-Files. Oh, what? Okay. In a movie or? Michael B. Jordan? TV series. Oh, okay. Well, ah, that could either that could get one or is it like recast

Mulder and Scully. It says he might bring back one of the original cast members. Mulder's a money. I don't know. I don't know about that. Director confirms he has spoken to Jillian Anderson. What? Hmm.

Of both of the people that you would bring back, it would be Jillian. Not that I'm complaining, because I had a huge thing for her. I'm sure you did. Those two were weird It was right before that But I like I like Mulder Before that movie came out They were at WonderCon in San Francisco

And during their panel It was weird They wouldn't answer questions And What? I don't know if they were drunk or what But they were just both being weird They were doing it

Maybe they're staring character I guess The mystery of it all Sorry I can't answer that question go see the movie and I'm trying to pull it up I believe Nez you probably know which cast member but one of the Friday of 13th cast members

passed away today yeah Larr Park Lincoln she was battling breast cancer so that seems to be the case that I'm seeing here she was Tina

Tina Shepard and Friday 13th part 7 the new blood That's the one that had The psychic powers or whatever Yeah carry Carry against Jason Oh god

That was so cheesy man That one was hell of good What you're talking about? That one was hell of good Is that with the girl breakdancing Remember Lance doesn't like Slashher movies We know that for a fact so

Break dancing? No No that was part five Yeah that was What's her face When she was popping and locking in the room before she got stabbed in the cooch, which we never saw.

But yeah, Tina, I like this one. I liked this one. I thought it was cool. I remember when I first saw it in the theater, I was like, wait, what's happening here?

What's all this fucking psychic shit? But I'm like, all right, whatever. I get to see Jason again. So in the end, I did like it. I did like the neck of figure

that came out with it. But I'm kicking myself that I never met the woman. I've seen her at cons, but there's so many Friday of 13th people, and I'm trying to get as many as I can to sign my book. And I'm like, I got to pick and choose because it gets a little pricey with autographs.

But I did like the film. I've seen all these other things she was in, but her character as Tina and the New Blood. I thought that was really good. I was hoping that they would bring her back at some point, but they never seem to do that with any of them. I don't know what they're doing with this TV show, but you got Velma as Mrs. Voorhees.

Okay. Hawkeye's wife. Why not? I'm okay. I like her. Was it Linda Cardinale? I like her, but I don't know. Do I need to see origin story of her? No, but I'll watch it.

Just give me a... She has some range, though, Niz. Give me a part 11. I want to see Jason on Earth 2. that's what I want to see Earth 2 Yeah give me that Then go back and do whatever you're going to do

Yeah come on man He was still alive at the end of Jason X Give me Earth 2 Jason But I don't know Okay Jason versus Predator There we are There you go

That new predator That new predator? That trailer did you guys talk about that yet? We'll get there Okay all right Because All right Next.

Yeah, rest in peace. Lar Park Lincoln. My mic muted. No one. I can't wait until it'll be done to Skype. I think you're saying it says muted right now. Speaking of that, what are you guys using?

What are you guys using after that? The teams thing? Yeah, we're going over to teams. I guess this is going to be four bucks a month or something. they're putting it all in on stream yard no for 70 bucks hell no i was thinking about that too man these guys are killing me with these prices but oh yeah well

we're gonna have to zoom everything we're gonna have to zoom everything right because i have that and i'm paying for it oh you pay for it yeah pay for it it's free for like two minutes and then you got to pay a hundred dollars a second after that all right that's the news it's like when i want to call mean gene back in the day right now

it was free for the first minute and like 100 bucks yeah freddie 1 800 freddie kruger call that and those uh the nasty lines oh yes i tried your mean before you get there okay jay you ready to go down to the trailer park with us yes sir All right. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What is our first new trailer this week? I think we're going to start with Predator Badlands because it sounds like somebody didn't like the trailer. It sounded that way. Directed by Dan Tractonberg, starring El Fanning.

I guess we'll throw it to Nez. Nez, why did you hate the trailer? Give me AVP3. What happened to that? because if you know what happened, those movies were garbage. Oh, they was. Well, the first one was D.C. It should have been rated R. The second one, I was all about that one.

You couldn't even see the second one, man. You can't see the motherfucker. That was good, though. They did the point. I loved it because it was just more violent than the first one. I mean, they had to cater to the teens, I guess, for that 80s. And those movies really pissed me off because they fuck up the entire canon of the previous movies. Like, you can't.

You could keep some canon, and then when those movies came out, they fucking put all the can into shit. So, uh, if you threw all those together, Predator would be first. Okay. Because that was the Predator, Predator, too, and then the AVP movies, and then the alien ones. Because those seem to be way later. Yeah, but, yeah, but then it contradicts the way the aliens really came to life, you know, with the whole Prometheus and all that shit. I don't even know about that. loved Prometheus. The second one was trash.

Yeah. I'm with you, dude. I really, I know Prometheus gets a lot of shit. It's one of my favorites. Yeah. I mean, it took me a few watches. That first theater watch out with I left the theater like, what happened? I mean, I left with more questions than answers. So I had to rewatch it over and over and over. I'm like, I don't know. I get it now. But the fast bender created those creatures, but because A.B.P. place before that, it fucks everything up. Because that's in the future. Well, right. Multiverse, Pedro. That's how I justify

it now. Everything is multiverse. Yeah. That's how Friday 13th wins. Friday 13th win because it doesn't link up with Jason takes Manhattan to that stupid ass Jason goes to hell, which was fucking bullshit.

Oh, don't get me into that. Speaking of that, did that documentary ever come out? No, but we do know the guy. that's putting it together. I haven't seen the documentary, man. I'm sure it's good. I just hate that movie. That movie was bullshit.

But, um... The Necronomicon's in there, man. Everything was in there. Freddy was in there. I did like that. I did like Freddy versus Jason. A lot of people didn't care for it. That was fun.

Yeah, it was a fun movie to watch. I mean, to go see it, sit in the theater. Probably me being probably the oldest one in there. their parents probably weren't even alive when Friday 13 came out but I still enjoy that film but with this one I don't know what's what's wrong with it I think it looks badass is this going to be a new a new timeline with Wayland it's in the future no I mean in the future in the future we just came from the past now we're jumping way into the future come on you're killing me

You got to find the times that are interesting. So let me ask you, do you think the anthology animated movie that's coming out is not going to be good either because it's different timelines? I like that one more because they always seem to do a little more research and more. It's done by the same people, though. I don't know, man. I mean, look at the DC stuff and some of the Marvel things. Man, the comics are just killing it. Even the animated stuff.

Not so much the Marvel animated stuff. No, I mean, these new predator movies are all Dan Tractonberg. I don't know. I need to see it. I mean, I... So you're not going to give him leeway, even though you love prey? That was good. Shout out to Amber Middunder and that Beaver guy.

But this, I don't know, man. Give me something in between. Does it need to be in the 80s or the 90s? No. Jamming somewhere in the 2000s before we did. dive way into whatever year this is going to make it somewhat accessible huh yeah if you're going to build

up this new alien predator thing let's let's lead into it that's not jump from whatever year prey was to whatever year this one is well but like how do we know what year this because it looks like it's a planet where

they just send all their prey it doesn't look like earth because they're they're stocking a hunting ground. It looked like this predator that I sent in it is a young predator and he's been sent there to prove himself.

Why does he have a ponytail? Because it's a girl and she's mixed with something. Hmm. Okay. Guarantee. Watch. Maybe we'll see Tulfur Gratio Love. That would be like an Easter egg. He's just there

from previous predators or whatever. I did like that one. That one was good. Now, it's too expensive now. After the Academy of War is expensive. Sure. Yeah.

He's got to give him a little fentanyl. He'll be all right. I would want more. More story on that style of predator that we got in prey. Because they said there's a whole bunch of different ones. So I liked it. It didn't look like the traditional one that we've been used to. Yeah.

I thought it was a big. I liked that one. It took me a minute to like it because I was like, you don't like his face. But as it went along, I enjoyed it. I know you can... That's what I like about this trailer is when you have so many films on the same topic, right? He gets redundant.

Okay, here's the same story over and over, right? Like we just saw the trailer for Jurassic World. I'm like, okay, people running from dinosaurs. Yeah, same time. Same time. This is, it looks so different. Automatically, it gets an A for effort for just being different.

You know, we got wait and see if it's any good, but it's not saying, okay, we have a predator coming to Earth and they're going to hunt people. It's like, okay, I can go watch five of those. let's see something new, let's see something different. So I'm on board with this one. It looks, this one of the trailer looks good. Now we've got to wait and see it.

The movie looks good. I'm more excited about this than a Jurassic World fucking. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. For sure. I was ready to tap out on those, but Black Widows in it, Scarlett Johansson. So that's the only reason I'm going to see that one. Other than that, I'm like, how many times are we going to see this same movie over and over?

Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, no. Oh, the T-Rex. gonna get me. You don't live the best AI voice. What's the worst thing can happen? Yeah, I mean, you didn't learn after the first movie? The first five?

I'll never learn. Every movie that'll come out, you'll ask the same question. Why did they learn? And in this one, they're going back to the original park again, because that's what they I thought they level that or something. No, that was the different island, the one with the volcano blew up. But with this, I mean,

I'll see it. Is it going to be in the theater or is it going to do the straight-in-hamex? They learned their lesson on Prey. They realized Prey probably should have been in the theater. Yeah. This is going to be in theaters November 7th, but the animated anthology movie is going to be on Hulu. That makes sense.

I hope they clean up the CGI a little bit. It looked a little bit. It looked a little bit like cartoons to me. in certain scenes on this one. Say that about every movie, Lance. True. But that's because a lot of movies right now do that.

Yeah, like Kong and Godzilla. Remember when we wanted them to clean it up and then when we saw it, it was still a cartoon, like the final product. Okay, it's not as bad as the She-Hulk trailer. That's for sure. That was good. I don't care when any was there. She-Hawk was really good.

Godzilla-Card. Bulldoer already. Just put yourself on side of all the shitty ones, don't you? I agree with it as She-Holk and Shakin' Ass in a series. Yeah, I like the series. Remember that trailer? Remember that trailer that the CGI wasn't completely finished yet? Yeah, that's the one that came out at Comic-Con.

That's them trying to rush, trying to show people. That's what we keep hoping for. And then it doesn't happen. Who is this young woman that's in this? Is this one? L. Fanny. Al Fanning from Man on Fire. Yeah, wow.

That's going way back. That was her sister. Oh, that's her sister. They all look the same. Those fannings. Those damn fannings. Well, I really expected Dakota to do a whole lot more than she did, and Elle seems to be the actor. Did Dakota retire?

What happened to Dakota? Do you retire or what? No, she still around. Well, she should have after that last movie. That was trash. That one when they were in that box. Spoiler alert. Ferrys that were watching them.

What the hell was that movie called? Oh. Oh, no. Yeah. Well, that's right. That's right. She was in it. That wasn't her fault.

I was excited for it. It seemed interesting. But when you find out what was watching them, I was like, oh, really? That's what you come up with? But, all right. All right. Next trailer.

I know what you did. last summer legacy sequel. I'm all in. We're going to start with Lance since he was the most vocal one about this one. Seriously? He hates Lashers. Let's keep that in mind. He hates Lashers. That's his gimmick. Oh, man, this looks horrible, dude.

Thank you. Okay. I want a hundred percent disagree with you. The production value looks way better than the original ones. I could not. What's that saying? Let me, shit. Let me finish. Let me finish. All right.

All right, Kanye. Hey, I'm not doing stuff with my cousin. All right. All right. What was I going to say? I can tell that the kills are going to be more brutal and violent in this one, which is what I want from the slasher. Because you can't name me a good kill from any of the original movies.

And sure, it's the base. basic same system story set up but it's a slasher movie you just need them to be here and be there and get killed in interesting ways you saw me you saw me and it's going to be I'm going to enjoy this way better than in a violent nature I'm going to say that right now I think I will too no I just didn't like I didn't like that very the pandering line by Freddie Prince he was like this has happened before it's not going to stop I think they're

I think they're leaning into the cheese I was trying to I don't like that I don't think it was good enough to warrant as many sequels as it already has to be fair yeah people forget there's a third sequel everybody forgets about that third sequel

that was garbage even the TV series was it supernatural was it supernatural her O'Brien. It's so ridiculous, the reveal that you actually should. Ghosts, right? Ghosts or something? Worse. Oh, okay.

I'll just leave it at that. Nez, what did you think? I'm all in. You get Jennifer Love when she's older? Hell yeah. I'm all about it. Don't get mad if that's going to be the only scene she's in. I don't care. Man, that's fine. She's hot. She was cute.

back then. Now she's, now she's milf, mom hot. She's been hot the whole time. With a different face, too, but that's okay. I'm with it. I just paused it on it. Freddy Prince, shout out to him. And

John Lee Brody from that was pretty scary podcast. We guys don't listen to that. Definitely check them out. The second movie, trash. I hated it. The one I did it. Dreads. What are you talking about? I missed a chicken jockey.

No. That's the one with Braddy. Brandy's in that one, right? Brandy and McCai Fyper. McCoy. McInty. Brandy. No.

Dude, I had kids screaming chicken jockey at a baseball game and I was like, no doubt, no doubt. Am I supposed to yell at them or not? I don't know what that means. No, you're supposed to throw your beer in there and all that. How much they go for nowadays at sporting events. I'm throwing my beer. I mean, because my first shot was throwing it into my belly.

They're calling the pitcher a chicken jockey. I imagine that has got to be some sort of dick reference. It's just a new flavor of the mom. You guys haven't seen that? No. Yeah, no, I saw it. It just didn't, it didn't click. That movie was awesome.

That's definitely my top ten. Chicken. Chicken jokey. The movie is a top ten. I don't know about that. Yeah, it was a hell of good. that was a 10 all the way it wasn't near as bad as I thought it was getting it I didn't know nothing about it I didn't know anything about the other than it was a game I knew all the

well look for my expectations it's a 10 on 10 I'll leave it at that yeah I loved it when you're going into this movie I took my nieces when you're going into this movie with like zero right like I was wondering like I was planning my activity in the theater without me watching the movie But no, it sucked me in. Like, Jason Momoa was awesome. Fucking, it was, yeah, 10 on 10 for the expectations. Yeah, I really expected it to suck hard. And it was kind of fun.

Look, see, Lance, you're getting three reviews. Brian, Phillip and me. It surprised us. It was a trippy experience. Like, go check it out if we can. And that Lava Chicken song is stuck in my head. Did you partake in Minecraft, movie? They didn't do it when I saw it.

It was calm. And the loudest people in there was me and the guy sitting next to me because we were laughing so hard. No, we had some teenagers in there that were screaming the whole time. I could imagine. Like, they were like, like, I was like, are you guys getting paid? What the fuck is happening? I don't know, man. We can get ready to do it tomorrow for Revenge of the Sith.

I hear they're going wilder during that one now. So I'm ready to go wild for Revenge of the Sith. So. All right. I'm all in. I'm in on this one. I know what you did last summer hits theater is July 18th.

July. It's going to flop then because that's a pretty stacked month for like this. Yeah, typically. And Comic Con too. We got fantastic four coming. That Jurassic World movie.

Oh, God. But you know what? Everybody will go see that, though. That's the thing. I'm picking I know what you did last summer over Jurassic World. Let's say that. Yeah, same here. Same here.

I've been Jurassiced out. What's, it says in premium formats. What's that? Like IMAX or something like that? I don't think it'll be IMAX, but maybe XD or whatever those Sunmark ones. That's the one where they have the little vibrator up you, but. Speaking of it. D-box?

Yeah, the D-Box. We finally got that. Yeah, the D-Box. That's the one. We finally got that in Reno. Okay. And you get squirted on, too, by the way. It gets a D right in the box. And he gets squirted on.

A whole different movie on that one. All right. Our final trailer is the Jordan Peele produced him, directed by Justin Tipping, starring Zaki Arquez Skip Brookie Those are the writers What is this called?

Him I don't know the main guy's name But it's also starring Barland Wayans Yeah I'm gonna throw this one to fill first Because you were talking about football Before we even started recording I don't know what to

expect from this. I have no idea what it's about. But I think it's about a guy. I think it's about a guy selling his soul. Yeah, probably. It looks like it looks like a part of the trailer he might he may get he gets injured. Yeah. And maybe he's not on top anymore. And he meets a veteran player, which I think is going to be played by Barlin. And basically he's going to entice him to sell his soul. I hope Yeah I hope than Antonio Brown

makes an appearance in this movie That's my goal Yeah I got like an angel heart vibe From this movie Because it's also very Yeah same here That's what I was thinking

It seems like there's a lot of symbolism in it You know Which I don't know Those kind of movies you have to kind of be in a mood for You know I don't want to sit there And start trying to figure all this shit out With all these fucking weird ass abstract scenes being thrown at me But I'm gonna check it out

but yeah i got like an angel heart's vibe for it i'm you know it looks it looks okay and i'm not gonna fall for that whole jordan pure producer shit any of these great directors that are producing like james one jones yeah yeah yeah i've been sucked by that way too many times i think was find the money that's all he did like he's a producer because he found the money that's all he did i think because he was originally supposed to direct this himself i think he did a stephen spillberg With the polter guy, so, yeah. I like the idea, because it looks good from the trailer. Like, I have nothing bad to say about it.

What'd you think, Jerry? Hopefully it's awesome. Me, when I first saw that, I figured, I said, the best way to watch this, you take quick five shots of tequila, sit upside down, and then you'll understand it. I mean, it looks crazy. when I'm on board. I love it. I love the crazy.

Which I'm going to tap into when we get into centers. Okay. It looks weird. Shador Sanders is about to end up on the Cowboys. Just going to say. All right. Continue.

I just watched it. It looks weird. I've never seen any of these things that this guy is directed. A lot of short films. A lot of TV. Look like he did a lot of TV. I think this is a feature debut. I've seen some of the dear white people.

I've seen that one. But everything else, I've never even heard of this gentleman. I'll see it. It looks trippy. I'll check it out. I mean, if Jordan Peel's willing to put his name on it, I mean, he hadn't done that, I produced me a fucking latte thing that he's,

that James Wan has been doing. No, but he did put his name in that crappy-ass Twilight Zone remake, so let's not forget that. Yeah, but he did that, didn't he? Yeah, I mean, what do I mean? No, no, no, no, he was... Yeah, yeah, he was kind of like the Rod Serling of that. Yeah, right. Yeah, so...

He introed everyone. I don't think he directed, then he. But he was the... Oh. Eh, well, all right, I'll give him one. We'll see. We'll see how good. Reserve judgment.

Because, I mean, it sounds like some dude that, like, he knows this guy's going to do a good job, I'm going to put my name on it. And I hope that we get something good from that. And it's not just a money grab. Yeah, I don't think it will be. Brian, I think Jay was on the right track, except he said, you lost me at tequila.

I thought you were going to say the right way to go into this one is take a hit of acid. There it is. Or some ayahuasca or something. It looks like a trip. And you got to get up there. Oh, motherfucker. They got a guard.

They skip Shadur Sanders. He's still there. Sorry. The visuals were appealing. I like the little mascot or whatever that was fucking slouching across a field or something. Like, that was weird. So just strange visuals in that, the eyes expanding on the MRI machine and stuff like that. So, yeah, I've got a lot of hope for this one.

I've been looking forward to this one. And Marlon Wayans never let me down yet. So he'll come and drink it as. juice in the hood or something like that. It's hard to make a good football movie, too. I love it. There's really a lot of good ones out there. To me, I think the best one so far is probably the program.

You know, and that's a hundred years old. Yeah. Marlon does, he does a really good job when he does like a serious role. Right. Yeah. Dragons? I said serious role. No, serious.

No. No, you're right. He was good in a record for a dream. Oh, yeah. Boy, that's a little too serious. Brought me down, man. Asked him now. They weigh from drugs, boys and girls.

All right. Him hits theaters September 19th. Okay. And that's it for trailers. All right. I guess that's my turn. right? Let me get it up here. I'm sorry. That did not sound right.

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How am I not listening? Yeah, how am I not listening? Lance, we need to go on the show and talk about that one time we got lost in that, in that haunted house. We couldn't find a way out. You got to come to Universal, dude. You got a place to stay. Why have Universal up the road here, too, as a thing? I know.

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Back to Haunt Girls. All right. So they're on top of it. But if you want us to do it, we'd totally do that. Especially if you pay us. Just like. In regards to vacancy. Michael Arnaz says classic.

Tom Landrith says good movie. Vacancy. Which one is vacancy? They went into that little roadside motel and the people that owned it were doing crazy things and secret tunnels and all that in there. Oh, wow. Yeah. There's also a direct to make a sequel of that movie.

I didn't even see the second one. No vacancy. That's the band. No vacancy. I like the movie, but every time I'm, when I drive around where I live at, out in the sticks, there's a bunch of those little places going through the woods.

I'm sure. All the roadside ones, everything. Man, I'm like, I'd sleep in my car before I stayed in one of those places. Only because of that movie. Too many horror movies. That cycle. Oh, that's right.

Speaking of psycho. Brian, have you guys done all four of them or five of them? We didn't do the remake. Well, there's no need. I mean... You saw the first one. Yeah. Except when he was spanking it.

I mean, that was the only new part. In regards to Delilah versus the ghastly grim promo reel, David Barta says, love this so much. Don't know what that is, but that's awesome. Let us in, David, on what you're talking about. Doesn't David still have to pick some movies? I mean, we're crying out loud, dude. Come on, man.

We didn't get no movie picks. We didn't get a commentary. sorry, Pig. No. David, Big MacGacko for a dream. Oh. Commentary.

You know, I don't know that I've ever watched that movie. It won't be as bad as pig flamingos. That's safe to say. You're ready to be depressed. Here we go. Let's see. In regards to final destination

bloodlines, Pat Caruso says, can't wait for this movie. hoping it's good. Me too. Keep hoping. Where's that fit in the timeline? Because that last one, zero zilled all the way back to the first movie.

Oh, man. Probably going to be the next generation, right? What lines is like now? Maybe they'll be in space. Like I'll raise their four. Or Jason X. You never know. Yeah.

I don't know. What do you know? The one of the teams. No, that Tell Razor and Lepricon in space, trash. Jason X was awesome. Thank you.

I was going for Freddie to go to space, but he never made it. Fast and Furious made it to space. They did. They did with duct tape. Rocket cars. You know how it goes. In regards to

the Horror Returns podcast. Hey, wait a minute. That's us. Pat Caruso. says, glad to hear horror talk. Well, I appreciate it. All right. In regards to bring her back,

Todd Haig says wish filmmakers would come up with something new besides possessed children. Well, possessed children are pretty interesting, to be fair. Not the believers. Well, that's true. Not always.

But it's always a good start. In regards to, Cellular, Damian Johnson said Got this in the collection. Good fun movie and at when the cell phones were a big new thing, L.O.L. Yeah. Was that the one with Vicky Vale?

Yeah. Is that the Stephen King one? No, that's cell. No. That's cell. Yeah. Yeah, no. We just thinking of. Captain America's in it. We just did cellular. Captain America.

Vicki Vale. Yeah. Wow. That's her name. That'll work. The other one. Kim Basinger. Really?

Kim Basinger. Jason Statham, there's a shitload of people in the movie. That's awesome. Speaking of him, did you guys see that last movie he did? The Working Man. That's terrible. No movies. I did not like it.

It wasn't as good as the beekeeper. The beekeeper wasn't awesome. That was like, beekeeper. Beekeeper was better than the working. Like, stop being a construction, man. Go back to being a beekeeper. movies. Ouch.

Ouch. Come on, Jason State. Give me more transporter. Maybe he should play a bad guy again, because he's really good at that. Try, and they made him good, which I hate him.

Oh, yeah, they do that. In regards to raw head wrecks, I don't know what that is. Michael Topping says, no good. A movie that has not as well at all,

that rubber mask is. It's based on an old Clive Barker story. It's from like 86 or something. It's very low budget. I saw that in the theater when it came out. Sorry, man. All right. Rex has a wacky costume.

It's literally a guy in a costume running around. We also got some feedback on the Bondsman. Cava Otto says actress plays his mom. Very, very good. Mickey Hannan says smashed it in one night and

Graham Tyler says Excellent Easy goodness I hope so He smashed it in one night Well Yeah that's not that's not that unusual

I mean you know No not really That's how it's usually done Do itly Any longer than that You may go to the doctor Yeah More than six hours

Huh Yeah It goes more than four hours call more women you guys saw Dewey Cox Oh man Dewey Cox sounds like a condition

What was that movie called? Walk hard Yeah, there it is Oh, that's right, that's right Tim Meadow said that line I called more ladies Drumdum says Thanks, brother Well, thank you

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On to our featured attractions. Really quick, really quick. Yeah. Welcome everybody to another quick little last movie. No, there. Pedro, what did you think of both nights? It's just good or bad. No need to go into why.

Okay, the night two suck. Night one was suck too. They both fucking suck. The only thing that didn't suck was the two three-way matches. The night one main event and the women in night two. Everything else was like to call you, Ness, it was trash. That's what it was. Always the three-way was with the women.

That's what saves it. Yeah, I was at the same way. I was like, really, this is what we're doing, but we'll get into tomorrow. Brian and I kind of lay it all down. But yeah, I was a little disappointed with some of the... Where was the rock guy? Wasn't he going to come out with Travis Scott? I mean...

I don't even let me get into him. Be Travis Scott? Yeah, he came out. He's a wrestler now. I was waiting for that receipt, which we didn't get. But, all right. But yeah. Yeah, WrestleMania.

Those you that were there, cool, right on. My friend, my buddies were there both nights. Like pretty much of the whole. week they were there. So all kinds of wrestling. They went to NXT, both nights of WrestleMania. They did some NXT does not need to be that early in the morning. Oh, man. The Hall of Fame don't need to go that long. Next time you had

Booker T. Find us. You had Eric Bishop fine us. Yeah, Jay with the sunglasses on. I'm sure his eyes were closed. Yeah, he had sunglasses on in the room, which makes him an asshole but also smart. just makes him cool yeah we'll get into more on the rest of the returns but all right nice preview all right future attractions uh time for some gothic vampires with interview from the interview with the vampire and the brand new sinners uh interview with the vampire from 1994 uh we'll start with uh a vampire tells his epic life story love betrayal loneliness and of course

hunger director is Neil Jordan also known for the company of wolves and Byzantium great movie writer is Anne Rice

who also wrote the novel Christian Slater was given the role of Daniel Malloy upon the death of River Phoenix the original choice for the role Slater donated his $250,000 salary to

two of Phoenix's favorite charities. That's cool. Did not know that. That's pretty cool. You're not talking about a truck in Amsterdam this year. Yeah. Here's where the bus for this fucking obscure-ass movie is. Good job, trivia guy.

Upon learning that Tom Cruise had been cast as LaSotte, Rice was livid and stated that Cruz could not carry the part calling the casting so bizarre, it's almost impossible to imagine how it's going to work. And the worst crime in the name of casting since the bonfire of the vanities from 1990. Rice refused herself from the production and did not view the film until a producer sent her a VHS copy. Rice was so impressed by Cruz's performance that she wrote him a letter of apology and recorded a two-minute video, endorsing the film that was included in the pre-feature on the mid-1990s VHS release. Nice.

I can relate. I had that same feeling when I heard about the casting. No, I think the Scientology people went after her and they forced her. Well, I mean, he didn't suck. I mean, Tom Cruise is kind of a great actor. No, he's good, yeah, he's good, for sure. His accent wasn't great, though. I stole him up under

I was gonna go out a few times Yeah, but was it I mean where was he supposed to be from? I don't know who He's from France His name is Lesztat Can't you tell by his accent That's true Wee we

That is a good point My mom was always a big fan of the vampire Laestat and all the hair Like we had cats named after the vampire And shit Okay I haven't ever read the books So I'll leave it to you guys

I read one. I read interview with the vampire. Okay. Yeah, what did you think? What was your takeaway, Jay? Oh. Oh. Oh.

That was missed cast. That was missed cast. Wasn't too far off from the book. I mean, you have a couple of, I think the girl was a lot younger, though. I think she was like maybe five or six or something in the book. Okay. and then here she's like 12 or some shit like that.

But I think that works because if you get a younger actress than that. Right, yeah. No, that makes sense. It's going to get awkward. It is. It is. You're like, she's not going to follow her cues. She's not going to do what the fuck she's supposed to do.

Like, at least this girl was an actual actress. That makes sense. Nez, what do you think? I love this movie. I didn't know nothing about it. All I knew it was a book. I don't read if it done that picture's in it. My wife read it.

She told me about it. Oh, she would probably like it to a vampire movie. I'm like, okay. Tom Cruise is a vampire. All right. I had no idea Brad Pitt was in it or Kristen Slater. It makes sense that all three of those people are actual vampires. And my favorite.

What's his nuts? Desperado. Antonio He makes a great vampire. When he popped in, damn, I wish my hair was that awesome. Hell a long, nice and straight. Oh, man. Get a straightener.

That was awesome. The way he's here. Just like that, bite me here. He's a pretty vampire. Yeah. They were all pretty. It was a good movie. I haven't seen this movie in a really long time,

so I kind of sat down and realized. watched it again. I forgot a lot about it. The main thing I remember about this movie is my wife was pregnant with her first child. And I said, hey, let's watch this when it came out on VHS. And she was like, oh, cool, she was all juiced. But as

it got going and during the there wasn't a lot of blood in it, but the bloody scenes, she just, she couldn't watch it. She was like, oh, this is making me sick. Maybe it's just because she was pregnant, but she never finished it until later. But I thought it was a good movie. I thought everyone

did their job. They did a really good job. I was iffy on Tom Cruise. I was kind of like, was he the big star that he is today? He did a lot of stuff, but I don't think he wasn't like Mission Impossible famous yet, but I was just like iffy.

Like Top Gun famous already. No, no, he was he was big. He was big already. He was big. No, he was. Top Guns garbage. What the fuck? Garbage. What should do with you, man?

be nice. Look at this guy spinning in Valcimer's grave and it's not even two weeks old. Valcimer ice man. He's awesome. Batman, he's hell of good. Top gun was bullshit. Maverick was hell of good.

That was what I wanted. Maverick was hell of good. I wanted that in Top Gun. Not this love story bullshit that we got. That's true. The love story between the volleyball game. I got you. That's good to say.

Nez, I'm going to challenge you to a volleyball game after that. I think he's just mad because his love, Tom Cruise, love interest in the first movie, became a man. I don't know. Oh, no. Last thing I saw her and was Walking Dead when she was in one of those episodes. Played the zombie? No, she was one of.

Played a zombie. I want to say when they were in that, that beach village. I think that was. Oh, was that her? I remember. I think, I don't remember. I remember she was in. was dialed in on that show for a while

I'm surprised he doesn't remember I need to go back and finish it I tapped out but I mean but yeah this movie I loved it I thought I went in the theater not expecting much I just couldn't see Tom Cruise being the vampire I mean I saw it after the fact because everybody he hit the interviews

and everyone oh tell it good tell it good go see it go see it so when I finally got to go see it there was like me and maybe two other guys in the theater. So it was everybody had ever seen it. So, but I left the theater and I was like, man, that was pretty good. I went back to next day and I saw it again. Um, I really love this film. I thought all the performances were good. Brad Pitt knocked it out of the park, uh, Antonio and Tom Cruise as well. That was what was surprising and shocking to me because everybody was talking about his performance in the film that they, that they didn't believe what, what he had done. And there were some people at going as far as. I'm never watching Tom Cruise movies again. Ah, why did he do this movie? He wrote his career. I'm like, I didn't think so.

I mean, I thought he was like he was the all-star of it. Was it his first bad guy role, right? I mean, he was kind of a bad guy in here, you know, for the most part. Other than that, he's always been the hero. So maybe that's kind of. Yeah, that one and depends on your point of view. The Michael Madden. What was the Michael Man movie he was in?

He was really the bad. guy there. Collateral? Yeah. Uh, yeah, the white hair or whatever. Yeah, but like, he's, he's the charismatic bad guy in this movie. Yeah. Yeah.

And, and it works because Tom Cruise is charismatic, is charismatic. Like, and he is obviously a real vampire, so that works. You should look at a picture of him and Kelly McGillis like 20 years later. One is aging if he's not. Yeah. Scientology. Yep. I mean, again, seriously, I went in there thinking,

Tom Cruise is a vampire, I could not see it. I wasn't going to buy it. I didn't even know who else was in it. I just went to go see it because everybody was saying how good it was. But like I said, when I left the theater, I was like, damn, that was hell good. I walked out of theater and I was like, was, was I juiced? I didn't juice me up to go read the books.

I was kind of excited when the queen of the dam came out I know he wasn't in it and rest in peace of Leah But and then this new show that came out I tried I couldn't do it It's just not not the same I mean list that is Tom Cruise I'm kind of glad he didn't go back to that role Because it probably just wouldn't have been as good as this one

Yeah, but I thought this movie was amazing I loved it Yeah, I was that a thing. Oh, go ahead, Brian. Oh, me? Yes. Did Jay go? Oh, Jay, you want to go?

Yeah, yeah, sure. I mean, very simulant, and as a story, I saw this movie for the first time by accident. I had no idea what it was. You know, a group of my friends and all that, we went out to go see a movie, and the funny thing is, I can't even remember the movie. This is when you went into the movie theater, right?

Yeah. And then you had a chance it, is there seats available, right? Yeah. You bitch, you get your seats online in advance, a month in advance and all that. Placification of America is what we are in today. Right, right. So we went in to go see a movie and it was sold out. So we're like, man, shit, you know, let's just go see.

And then my friend Big Germ, and there's a whole reason why it's not what you think. But because he said, let's go see this one. And the only reason he wanted to see it because we're diehard 49er fans because it was in San Francisco. Hey, we might get a glimpse of him 49ers or something. That was the reason why we went and saw it. I had nothing of this movie. So we went and saw it and, yeah, again, blown away. But Brian kind of hit it on the head earlier is Kevin Kossner gets a lot of shit for not having an accent in Robin Hood.

Then you got two of some of the top, top actors of all the time, Brad Pitt and Tom Cruise. And nobody says anything about not having an accent. Tom Cruise is supposed to be French. from France. And isn't, like, isn't Brad Pitt, like, supposed to be from down south or something like that? And his accent is still,

it's not quite Louisiana. Yeah. It's New Orleans before the Louisiana purchase. So he's French. There it is. So they should have been back to the next to the truth. Now, that's saying, that's probably the only

negative thing. You know, I love this. It's a fantastic movie. It actually inspired me to go read the book. And that, because I like the movie so much, the characters in it, it's, you know, you're right along with Brad Pitt for the most part, you know, because he becomes a vampire, but he pretty much stays human, you know, for the most part. And we can kind of get into how that kind of ties into centers as well. I think this was a good pairing, you know. Initially, when I saw this, Lance, I was like, man, does dust from dawn kind of makes more sense, you know, because we'll kind of get into center. There's how the first half is basically one movie. The second half is another movie.

But, you know, as I'm watching, I'm thinking about it, I'm like, you know what? The journey of some of these characters kind of makes sense and kind of parallels what you're seeing, specifically with Louis on this movie. So, yeah, fantastic acting all around. I don't, I can't pick a bad, with the accents aside, I can't pick a bad thing.

I think it's dated very well. too. You know, here a piece, you know, they get that, you know. And, you know, except for the little tape deck that Christian Slater has, I mean, this movie could be now, you know, a year ago, a year from now, whatever. I mean,

other than that, it's, it fits anywhere. So I thought this was a fantastic movie. All right. Brian, what do you think? Yeah, I agree with everything that Jay just said. My only nitpicks are the accents, because that's not a Louisiana accent. That's not a

accent. I don't know what Antonio Banderos is supposed to be. I didn't understand anything he was saying. This is probably he's from the old world. That's all it matters.

For me, this is probably still Kristen Dunst's best performance. Yeah. Yeah. At that age to put on this performance, I always think of the scene when she tries to cut her hair. Yeah. And finds out of, that's always a standout scene for me. The real M.G.

That's right. That's right. No, that's wrong. You like Zendaya, huh? Yeah. Okay. She's good, too. In that timeline. In that multiverse.

Well, there's only one, though. So, yeah, she would be the best one in that timeline. I really enjoy the setting. It really made me feel like we were in that time period in that area. And one real quick thing I want to touch on is the music. The music was top-notch throughout the entire movie. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

All right, Lance, what do you think? Yeah, I was so fucking pissed off when, because I'd read, I think when this movie came out, there were a couple, at least a couple of books already out and I'd gone through the first one pretty quickly and the second movie I was want to see after this one I wanted to see vampire Laestat

done but they never did it at least not with the same actors but I was pissed when they announced Tom Cruise I I guess I had the same reaction Anne Rice did I was like there is no fucking way this little fucking punk kid from risky business is going to go

you know I'm a vampire you know but he really pulled it off And it doesn't help that he had a great cast around it. But I think the strength of this movie is probably the fact that you were saying, Anne Rice wrote it, and I didn't even know that she'd written the screenplay for it. But it's it, I love it when a, when I go to a movie based on a book I've read, because I want to, I don't want to see like the dark tower, where it's Matthew McConae and Idriselba and Trash.

Yeah, I want to see something. The thing is that even when Stephen King writes his adaptations, they suck. That's a problem. Like Maximover tried. Yeah. That's hell of good. What are you talking about? Yeah, I was.

Coke out of his mind the whole time. That soundtrack is fire. ACDC. That's true. It's a great soundtry. Maybe not as good as the next movie, but we'll get there. I will say that, yeah, this was spot on. I mean, it hit all the beats of the book.

None of the major chapters were left out, and the character art was amazing. And it was just like the book. It was from Louis' perspective. And I wouldn't change too much about this one. Really enjoyed it. And Tom Cruise pulled it off. I would love for Tom Cruise that show up in the movie and say, ooh, I'm a vampire.

The one thing I want to add about this, too, is it's, you know, I may get a little hypocritical on this, you know, when I bounce from movie to movie. But one thing I like about vampires is the more realistic logistics of a vampire. Like he said, I'm fond of crucifixes. You can see him in a mirror. There was nothing really super, super natural about him, right? You know, when he's a vampire, they just have these certain abilities, you know, say like a mutant or something to that, you know.

Although Bram Stoker Dracula is probably my favorite vampire movie of all time. And, you know, he turns in a werewolf and this and all that. I get there's a lot of supernatals where my hypocritical comes in because I love all that. But for the most part, I like a logistically sound realistic vampire. You know, they are alive, right? And we're going to, and I want to get into that. And again, I keep jumping when I'm going to the centers because there's a piece on that as well. Is they, it was, oh, they're dead.

No, they're not dead. They're alive. They're just different. They're different. I think one show. I never finished. I only got two seasons. It was true blood.

I think they kind of hit a little bit on that as well. It didn't get into too much of the supernatural. They kind of kept them grounded for the most part. And that's what I really liked about these vampires. They just, they didn't sparkle, you know? They didn't fly crazy like Superman or some shit like that. But they were really grounded. And it actually made him a little bit more personal to you because you can almost kind of relate.

You can't say you're like, oh, I want to have a red cape fly away and have all these superpowers and shit. you can be like, okay, these are, he's still a person. He's just different. Yeah. Graham Stokens, Dracula, another bad accent in that movie. That's right. I am an FBI, no, an English real estate. Yeah, no, I think that everybody pretty much hit the nail on the head in this movie.

there was definitely some uncomfortably seductive scenes there was sexual tension in this movie oh yeah that's the difference between the book Phil is there's a lot more of that this movie was toned down yeah it was very toned down

these books but aside from that I think that everybody did a pretty amazing job. They had a really top tier cast in this one. And it worked. And it was, you know,

young Brad Pitt doing his thing, who is one of my favorite actors and Tom Cruise killed it, even though he wasn't supposed to because this is not up his alley. Little Kirsten Dunst, who was very young,

in this movie also killed it. Like, everybody in this movie was awesome. And then nailed it. Thandie Newton. One of her first movie was. Oh. Yeah, I was like, thought I recognized her. Oh.

And Phil to go back to Brad Pitt, too, I don't think he was established as a great act of this time. Right. He was a pretty face. No, but I will say, go ahead, Jay. that's what he was initially right and that's how i saw him i was like okay brad puss is a pretty guy and he doesn't like him and louise it wasn't to like this movie and probably uh shit of a fall let's just the fall was right now i was like this dude is and then 12 monkeys i'm like this dude's fucking

oh yeah yeah oh yeah seven yeah seven and 12 monkeys are the ones that really made it for him but oh yeah well there's that But, no, I think this definitely gave him a little bit of step up. And, uh, and, and, and it worked. Like, not only is he a guy's guy, but like, he's a very pretty face. And it worked for the whole vampire mythology. And, uh, I, I, I like this movie, man. I think everybody did a killer job.

And, uh, it was really good. Yeah, this was, this was the prime of like Brad Pittman. mania with with for that reason like pretty things and and yeah I was about when this movie came out I would have been about 13 and I remember being in high school and it's like everybody's talking about this fucking guy but he had he hadn't

but it was all because he was handsome right and it's and then you know so some of these shots man in this film like you know I'm a heterosexual guy now there's anything wrong if you're not I am but god damn he's like so like ridiculously like pretty

in this fucking movie, man. It pisses me off. Life isn't fair, God damn it. But, yeah, so, yeah, he was in that prime. And then, of course, Tom Cruise was, like, coming off of, like, some of his more Academy, like Oscar Bate films. Yeah, this was a perfect storm of everything.

You know, Kristen Dunn. She got nominated for an Academy Award for this role. Yeah, and so I don't think she won't, but she definitely was nominated. So, yeah, me too. I mean, there's nothing else to be. said this is a great classic film. And this is one of those movies where, you know, really, you have two different vampires.

You have the romanticized, right, and then you have the demons, right? You have the scary demons. And I think this movie really captured that romanticized of what a vampire can be, right? And, you know, whether you're a guy, gal, heterosexual, whatever you are, it captures you in. You're like, okay, I'm on board with this. You know, you got other movies that try to romanticize it and not a huge fan of Twilight, you know, I'll shit on that all day. And I think they overdid it on that one.

I think that's what kind of killed it. But I think this one captured it perfectly because it was so subtle. And of course, you know, they used the pretty guys and all that. But it, to me, it worked. Like, you're right. It completely worked on the whole, this is the perfect example of romanticizing the vampires. Right. All right.

Let's go scores. Pedro. I'm going to go 9 on 10 on this one. It's a great. It's a classic. It's a legitimate classic. Classic film. Yes.

You hear me? I'm sorry. Yeah. It wasn't quite a 10. Yeah, you go a 9. All right. A couple of nines already, Jay. I can't disagree with that.

I mean, I haven't seen this movie probably 20 plus years. You know, when you go back to something, there's something's always not quite. or, you know, like, it's not how you remembered it. This movie completely held up. And I think it's one of the top tier and one of the, you know, the models for a great vampire movie. Nine on ten.

I mean, that's, that's a legitimate, that's a legitimate rating for me. Nine on ten. Brian, what do you think? Bad accents aside. This is an easy way. That's why they don't get the ten because the accents. I want to go eight and a half.

man, I think it was, I think it was pretty good. Lance, what do you think? I'll tell you this. They got the characterizations down so well. And now that I know Anne Rice wrote it, it all makes sense. But yeah, Lestat, he's been a vampire much longer, so he's much more cruel, much more manipulative. And then you got Louie, Louis, who's kind of like new to it, but he's sort of very depressed, wants to commit suicide, kind of basically when he, you know, when he goes into it. So he brings that with him and, you know, has to shed his humanity, which he does slowly through the books to an extent.

But they always, they kind of keep the same, you know, the same path going after, you know, most of the books. But, and then the way they use cleansing fire and stuff like that in certain scenes, which was great. But, yeah, I think eight and a half is very fair. You know, I don't think I quite go nine on this. But, yeah, it's an easy eight and a half. It was a great reproduction of the book. All right. So we definitely recommend that one.

Check it out. Okay. Really quick. Favorite Tom Cruise movie. Everyone. Go. Jay. Oh, shit.

Favorite Tom Cruise? Collateral. I actually, I really like him as a villain. Wow. Okay. I do like him as a villain. I think he freaking nailed it in that one. And that was more about him.

This is more of an ensemble. interview with the vampire. I don't think it would have worked as well without Kristen Dunst and and then Brad Pitt. So I don't consider this a straight-up Tom Cruise movie, so that's why I would go collateral is probably top of my head.

My favorite is the first Jack Reacher movie. I love them in that one. It's a good one. Good one. That lived I repeat movie. Five foot five Jack Reacher. Yeah, I'm with Philip. I'd forget about that one. I love that one. Are we doing

that Brian? Which one? Edge is tomorrow? We're supposed to. Yeah. That's like, that's like Mickey 17, like Mickey 17, but with action, right? Yeah. Brian, what's yours?

Favorite Tom Cruise movie? Yep. Rock of Ages. No, not. No, I'm just playing. I like to roll. Say Top Gun so that's going to get pissed. You know what? I'm going to go with Top Gun. That's the iconic Tom Cruise movie.

There you go. He was good in it, but it was just... He's getting everything, really, though. I mean, he's a really a bad Tom Cruise acting movie. Tropical Thunder was great. We won't bring up mummy. We won't bring up mummy. I like that movie.

I love that. I thought that movie was good. You didn't love it, though. You didn't love it, did you, Naz? I did. I thought it was cool. I wanted more, but apparently not. We got a good start.

We got Invisible Man. Then we got that weak-ass Wolfman movie. Oh, boy. All right, mummy, helly good. Another one that nobody talks about as really awesome is Mission Impossible 3, the JJ Abrams one with Seleafel, Seymour Hoffman as the main bad guy. You know, you're right? I was just talking with my wife about this because we saw the trailer for the new one.

I said, I like the Mission Impossible movies, right? With the exception of, because I called out three. and I think because three, I think it's the only one where he's actually doing his goddamn job. Every movie, his own agency is after him. I'm like, can we just get a movie where he's just doing his job and he's going after the bad guy and he's not having a, you know, oh, I'm on the run and my, how many times are you going to be on the run for me?

Goddame guys, he wins every movie. Trust him, you know. So yeah, yeah, that's a good one. Yeah, at some point, maybe it's time to leave. well the last one is the last one so we'll see all right we'll go to sinners from 2025 trying to this is when i leave i didn't see this movie and i don't want to hear oh no yeah i didn't see it yet i was gonna say sat all right i was gonna go but i got i got six so i couldn't make it out to it but i haven't been on the show in a while so since i might as well uh

come in there and let you hear my snotty voice but yeah everyone um it's fun man i'll i'll try to come back i mean it's just your recording time is during the week and i got to work got to pay those bills but uh j man it's good to see you brother good to hear from you um much love to you and the family yeah i'm major man always good always right brian we'll we'll figure it out yeah and brother phil brother lance see you guys so but everyone Thank you so much to listening. Check out the next episode of the wrestling returns, action returns, as well as stream themes and whatever else Brian and I are doing with that new show.

Well, when that episode comes up, we'll give you the title because we didn't have one. I heard that it's called Halloween's 30 for 30. That's the first time I'm hearing that. I'm calling on Lance and Brian on that one. Come on. All right, everybody. I'm out of here. Till they'll be safe.

Party on. 30 days. 30 days or whatever the fuck. They guys never finished. All right. Party on, dude. On to Centers, 2025. Trying to leave their troubled lives behind, twin brothers

returned to their hometown to start again, only to discover that an even greater evil is waiting to welcome them back. Director and writer is Ryan Coogler, also known for Fruitville Station and Creed. And Black Panther, movies, I believe. Yeah, for sure.

That's another statement. Christopher Nolan and his producing partner slash wife, Emma Thomas, assisted Ryan Cougar in the shooting with the 65 millimeter film. Nice.

Swedish composer Ludwig Goranson. He's a good to say. He better get some kind of award after this movie. Yeah. Ryan... He's a guy who does a Mandalorian?

Ah, well, I mean, hey, composer. Yeah, it sounds like the same guy, I think. Yeah. Is it? Okay. All these composers have these very unique, like, European names, so who knows. Yeah, like Northern, Norway Airbnb names. Right.

He was Ryan Cougar's University of Southern California Film School classmate, who has scored all his future films, including this. film developed an appreciation for the blues from his father. The elder Gorinson became a lifelong fan of the genre as Mississippi blues artists like Albert King toured Europe and stopped in Sweden. All right. That's what we got for some trivia. Pedro, you want to start us off on centers?

Yes. I this movie was amazing. It was everything I thought it was going to be in more. We're going to get more into the spoilers side of things when we're talking spoilers. But just just off the top, the characters, you found love with the characters right away, the writing, the metaphors in this movie, you know, regarding like race and all that stuff. to me like actually the the weakest part if there is such a thing as the weakest part was the vampire part because it was the more by the numbers part of this film but but everything before that was like just an amazing like visual spectacle as well like just the cinematography with all those cotton fields and it was it was you know it was like a timepiece so you had like the 1930s era with the cars just phenomenal stuff And the story was good too, because here is what the title says, right? Everybody here's a sinner.

Like, there was no actual good person in this movie when you think about it. Like, everybody else, everybody was out to make a buck. But it's also a reflection on what you have to do to survive, right, depending on who you are. Because these guys had to go up north. And I could spoil this, because this is part, I don't think this is a spoiler, but they had to go up north to kind of make their money and, you know, escape. But at the same time, they didn't really escape, you know. was it was the 30s um so so there was this big theme of like coming back down to the devil you know right

that was their whole thing like because of nor they were still being discriminated and oppressed in their own way and then and then so so like we're talking what we're making the comparisons to from this to don earlier and yeah this is this starts off one way where ryan kuegr is just giving you all the little chess pieces you know the other characters so that so that when the shit hits the fan you care about them more when when things down and then the second half is when the shit really hits the fan and and yeah like i said that to me that's the weaker part of it but but it was still a great time because i love how reserve he is in the beginning like he's really reserved with the blood because he knows exactly because he knows exactly what he's going to do in that third act which is just giving all to you you you know um so yeah so this is a great

film i mean it's it's again i don't want to get too much into the story until we're talking spoilers but um just an amazing spectacle it's funny because because like with me like you know when I went to film school I was in production in my early 20s and I rarely ever kind of go back to that like that's such an old part of my life but this is one of the first movies where I started getting inspired like I started thinking of like my old characters that I've written and I could make something of this shit you know so so I kind of became like that young guy again that was like you know so enthusiastic to be like a filmmaker getting the itch yeah it was it was a great time it was a great time you know it's it's been some people have been saying that it's a

little too long maybe i don't know i didn't feel it but it is it is two hours and 20 minutes um i i love that epilogue scene that said so much and we'll get into it um and yeah so yeah i love this film for sure and that's why i wanted to come on here because i was like we have to talk about this great movie jay what do you think oh man i'm right in line with pedro man i um i got a little bit more to say about the the vampire by numbers um i think we got to wait till we get into spoilers for that I think there was a reason for that. And from what I saw, I thought it was perfect by the vampire by numbers. And I think there was a specific reason for that.

As this movie kind of really centers not necessarily around the twins, but the cousin Sammy. Right. And he's kind of at the center of it. And you know, you got that first half of that movie, like you said, is building up. Like the chess piece, you get into know these characters. Fantastic setup. But the whole theme of it. You know, you want to talk about, shoot, man, I'm trying not to spoil too much about it.

I mean, culture is a big part of this, is right. You know, about, yeah, I got to keep tight with them. But even with the themes, like, there's also like religious guilt in there, you know. Yes, sure. Especially with the cousin because of what he does for it or what he wants to do for a living. Right. You know, what his, what his father was a pastor tells him that that could bring. And it actually does bring that.

So there's a lot of guilt, you know, there's a whole thing of, like, religious guilt in there. There's just a lot of little themes throughout the movie that I really love. A lot of mirroring as well. And when we get into spoilers, I think the religious aspect and I think the vampire aspect were complete mirrors of each other. And then, you know, we'll get into it as we go as we going further.

I just want to say, though, Michael B. Jordan, fantastic as smoke, a stack. Yeah, not so much. No, it's fantastic. You know, every director has their go-to guy, right? You know, Couguin, you know, Jordan is his guy, you know. Burton, it was, Donnie Depp was his guy. You go to, and who do we talk about Nolan, you know, for the most part, he has his group of core guys.

You can say it's Christian Bell, but you can also say it's, who's the butler? Michael, oh, God, who's the old guy, the old British guy? I'm going to forget his name for a minute now. Yeah, I know who you're talking about. Yeah, yeah, that's kind of like, everybody. Like Sillion Murphy, too. He works with him a lot.

Yes, that's true. Everybody has, I mean, if you talk about a cougar movie, you know, Michael B. Jordan's going to be in it. He was at Fruitville Station. He was in there. All of them. He's been all of them. Oh, yeah, yeah, that's it.

And it works. You know, sometimes that partnership is absolutely fantastic. And this is kind of, this is one example where it absolutely shines on this as well. So, man, I love it when a director and he has that core of either actor or actors, and they just gel together and you know you're going to get gold when the next one comes out. So, yeah, yeah, fantastic movie. All right. Brian, what do you think?

This is probably the best movie I've seen all year. The direction was on point. Cinematography was on point. Every character, every main character that had lines knocked it out the park. Michael B. Jordan, I thought he did a great job in dual roles. There was an easy distinction between the two. Even though they were identical twins, you can tell which one was which. Oh, yeah.

And Haley Steinfeld, the St. Kate Bishop, the St. the Bumblebee movie, she stepped it up 100%. It's true. Yeah, it's like her and true grit. Yeah, fantastic. Yeah. And yeah, I just can't wait to get the spoilers. I agree with everything everybody said so far. This movie was phenomenal. And the runtime, it didn't bother me at all. I was so tuned into the movie that I'd not once to I look at what time it was. Absolutely.

One thing I noticed in the movie, and I don't think this is spoiling, and I can bring it up, is I noticed something. And maybe it seems like whenever you saw the twins together, I always saw two big-ass birds. flying around. And then when you first see the vampire, I won't spoil how you see him and when you see him, but when you first see him and you realize who he, what he is, you see these three giant-ass

vultures. Just kind of and then you just get three later on. I don't know what the symbolic on that is, but I just kept noticing and I even saw, you see those birds again. And when you saw the twins, they were by themselves, there was nothing in the sky from what I noticed now I mean got that wrong whatever but I just

seem to notice every time you saw them two giant ass birds always circling and in the sky I don't know if anybody else noticed that huh that's why this this movie is to be watched again so oh yeah absolutely those little things yeah and and and again I want one of the one thing that I'm a sucker for is these films that introduce all these characters that later on are going to be in the same place and this movie takes this time with that you know you always you know because because they both go so we could say what's happening here so what happens is that they they want to they want to open up a juke joint right which is like an old blues uh like i guess you could say can'tina that was specifically for like african americans um so so so the twins

have to assemble their team to run the business you know uh so they get they get delta slim who's who's dalroy lindo who was amazing in the film yeah uh they get the cousin originally the cousin is just a helping ham but then later on he actually plays the blues and then that's no no no i take that back because uh i think it was uh smoked was the one that discovered that he could play right and then he's like okay i want you to come with me so that you could join delta slim he could play guitar with as as he's doing the harmonica thing um and then they get and then they get the um the the agent couple to do like the like the promoting right the banners and all that stuff um and can i say something real quick about the I love that they had southern accents because if they would have, they wouldn't have Asian accents.

Yeah. Right, right. Yeah, take that interview with the vampire. They took care of their accent. And then, and then obviously, that one heavyset guy, what was he? He has the nickname, right? What was his name again? Cornbread.

Yeah, cornbread. He got hired to be security. He got hired to be security. So, yeah, so I like how the first part just assembled all this team, and you got to know the entire team. And I'm a sucker for that trope. Whenever movies do that, I always get invested. You know, it's a cool.

It takes a little more investing because of the time, but it's always worth it in the long run. Yeah, absolutely. Lance, what do you think? Oh, you already said. I was, no, I haven't gone yet. But I was kind of, I was a little bit concerned about, going into this movie because it

sometimes you fall victim to that overhype right like you hear really really good things about it from people that you that you really trust and you're like oh my God don't let me down don't let me down so like from the very beginning this technically this was like

a masterpiece I mean I don't think that anyone has maybe an exaggeration I don't know if any filmmakers ever achieve this level of filmmaking as far as technical expertise there was one particular camera angle talking about the couple that had the daughter that on the store where they followed one character across the street you've got all these back characters that you can see all this

stuff going on everywhere and then they go into the store and then you know somebody comes out and it's just like wow you know it's just amazing and then when when you're in the the juke joint like when they're setting it up at the beginning it's just you see so much detail there's so much attention to detail and you see all the old brands like in the store and you know this was painstakingly research, right? You know the filmmaker painstakingly, you know, researched all this and had a team of people helping, I'm sure, you know. So, yeah, technically this was like a masterpiece.

I don't think they make movies better than this that are more beautiful. The acting was phenomenal. Michael B. Jordan, if this movie's not nominated for, I say it every year, but if this movie is not nominated for some, serious Oscars. I'm fucking done with the Oscars, period. But we haven't even gotten, we haven't even gotten to the soundtrack yet. Potentially the greatest fucking movie soundtrack I have ever experienced. There was one scene in here that was a lot of people are talking about it, but I literally went into a transcendental state. I left my body and I got inside of

that and it was just beautiful. So the way they did that was perfect. They, If you watch the movie, this is one I really wish I'd seen twice before we talked about it. The Seven Deadly Sins are right there front and center to see. I love the title. You've got Sloth with the character that's, you know, and then you've got, you know, so much wrath. You've got, you know, all the Seven Deadly Sins. I'm going to rewatch it so I can catch all that. The vampire scenes, they weren't jarring, though, Pedro.

Like you said, it was a little bit different when you got to the vampire scene. it's almost like you were in one of those outstanding fucking 80s you know what I'm saying? Yeah. Expeedation horror movies. But it didn't throw off the rhythm. That was... It did it. It did it for sure.

Now there was what... I'm sorry, go ahead. I was just to touch base on that first... Well, we talked about the first half of the movie in the second half, a little different. I would say the first half is... I would say it's borderline musical. Right?

I mean, it's... And I love a good movie. musical, Brian. It was really borderline musical because even the part I think it was, I forget it was Smoker Stack who he was driving his cousin Sammy and then he kind of, I guess he kind of knew he was, you played the guitar. But when he started playing, he started singing, he just saw the look on his face like, damn. He was blown away. You were blown away his audience hearing his voice and just hearing him play that guitar. That was one of my favorite scenes. You just see the shock on his face. It was like, like you said, he was helping hand. And then, you know, now he became the main attraction because he just, you know, realized, wow. Yeah. And, yeah, and this movie, there was, again, I wish I'd seen it twice because there's so much symbolism in here. And then, like, there's one scene early in the movie. And I love, I'm with you, Pedro.

I love that getting the band back together motif from that road trip type motif, the characters. But there was a scene where I thought, okay, cool, they're outworking. And I'm like, okay, so this is a slavery movie, but it's not. it's 60 years after and I'm like, holy fuck, that's a little bit eye-opening to think it was still like that in certain parts of the country. And then you get that, there's one line where they refer

to what it's like in Chicago and it's like not perfect there. And then you get into all the money as the root of all evil stuff, which, you know, save some of that for spoilers. But there's a Kendrick Lamar album that I've listened to a couple of times lately. It's called to Pimp a butterfly. And it's got a lot of the same motifs in it, like a lot of, you know, using money

to take people away from purity and take them and make them into something that that's sort of like, I don't know, getting away from humanity or getting away from your true nature and it was just, I can't say enough about this movie. We better move on or I'll start spoiling.

Yeah, man, I think I'm going to agree. The transcendental musical scene and there were multiple of them. we're all pretty awesome I can't say a whole lot that I hate about this movie man

we'll move on to spoilers oh well I guess we gotta go scores first huh did Brian go Brian yeah I hear what you have to say I went Oh I'm sorry All right scores Pedro what do you think Oh man I'm gonna go 10 on 10 man

That's I'm going to and and Strong words I've seen it twice, and I'm going to see it again a third time before I live theater. So 10 on 10 for me. All right. Jay? I'm going to go 9, 9 and a half. I rarely give out tens.

That's cool. Yeah. And my season's the second time, I think it's going to hit a 10. But I just saw it last night. You know, I went to like a 6 p.m. showing last night. I just saw it, and it's just, I need to see it again. But this is easily, this is a easily, I don't buy movies for the most part. Rarely do I ever.

purchase actual movies. This is one of mine right away. Straight up. Brian? I'm going to bring us back up. This is an easy 10 on 10 for me. Best movie of the year for me. Lance? You guys never hear this for me. I think we've reviewed one movie that I did.

And you know, I came to the podcast with Clockwork Orange being in this rare air for me. But this is a perfect movie. It's a 10 on 10. this movie made me realize Brian you're going to appreciate this that they're just not going to like people on fire for real anymore in movies just get used to the

CGI fire because it's going to be there and I was able to get past it and levitate up to 10 so yeah 10 on 10 perfect film Mount Rushmore big time yeah I don't know if it's perfect but it was pretty good I'm gonna go

I think eight and a half I really enjoyed it These are all A's and B's Yeah for sure Yeah All right Spoilers This is a motherfucking spoiler alert

You've been fucking warned This is a motherfucking spoiler alert You've been fucking warned This is a motherfucking spoiler alert You've been fucking warned Who wants to go first Yeah I mean we're talking about the themes of money right and the contrast with money and purity also just with culture and cultural appropriation because

think about these vampires what what the bargain was right what the negotiation was is like you never have to worry about being a person of color anymore but look at what you have to give up to to join us you know you're just going to steal all your stories and your songs you don't think that was a little bit racist yeah but that was the point though right point. Let's flip some races and then see how this movie played. That was the example that they were offering, because what I like about these vampires is that they were not racist. They actually were pretty even keel, except for the fact that at the end of the day, they wanted everything about you as a person of color. They were a little bit like the board.

It was just every other white person in the entire movie was racist. right right um so so i really like that like i said earlier i like how nobody was actually a saint in this movie everybody everybody has some blood on them um i like i like i like how uh michael b jordan and both right smokes and stax and this is what makes a good actor it wasn't ridden but you could see he carries the trauma of not only being a war war one veteran but also being yeah yeah being up there with like because because they mentioned that he was working with well they were both working with capone right in Chicago and then it's never actually said but it's implied that they actually stole their money they just have money but that's what I got not only did they steal from Capone but they stole from the

Irish mob and then let them fight it out while they stole their shit yeah they they scooted it away yes yeah right and and I like how both of them had different personalities right even though they were twins you know um Stax was a little more like rebellious you know whereas smoke was more of a business person. And so I really like that. Just everything about this film, man. Again, we'll go on and on. But it was a perfect movie.

So what do you guys think about it as I think of other stuff? I like that final scene. I like the setup with the, okay, so one of them was wearing like the blue kind of like a palper's hat, like a working person's hat. And the other one had like a red pimp hat. And it's like they kind of telegraphed he was going to be the vampire in a way. but it sort of didn't. It's kind of played with your expectations. And a few different times, I love the thing scene, Brian, where they were using garlic instead of the blood test with the wire.

And I thought for sure, I was just grabbing AJ like, oh, when is somebody going to pop out as a vampire? I love that scene. I love the KKK black exploitation scene there at the end with all the fucking bloody merry, crazy Larry bullshit. And it's just getting all the guns. And they were, they were, they referred to that before. They were like, you know, we got, we got the, we got the chest available. We're going to need that for these guys, and they saved that for the end. And I'd, I'd forgotten

about it. And I was like, okay, that takes it just enough over the top, Philip, that I think, it kind of looks on itself. I think it sort of had to be there. That scene sort of had to be there at that point. Because what's so great about this movie is the way

that he is able to like take an incredible serious character-driven parts of the movie, and then mix it with the exploitative, you know, 80s, blood, bath, gore, and then, of course, you know, that scene at the end where, you know, he pulls out the machine gun.

So, yeah, I think it was, it was very well-balanced. Maril Quentin Tarantino scene, right? The end of the machine gun, I love that. I thought of that once upon a time in Hollywood a little bit. But look, but even, even like the ending of the film, right, where smokes get shot up and then he passed away. He joins his wife and his kid who had passed away before. But you see the choice that he made because the vampires were offering him eternal life, right?

No stress, but he was never going to be able to be with his wife and his kid again. So even in him choosing this very fight night experience, which is life, he ended up joining his wife and his kid at the end. So in a sense it was a happy end. ending even though the bargain was like you get to live forever but he didn't want to live forever because living forever why would anybody want to live forever when you really think about it right so um so that was another like thing that really got to me just this idea that he made a choice knowing what the ending was going to be um and i have to watch it again i don't know i don't know if

smokes knew that this battle with the kKK at the end i don't know if he knew that he was going to come out of life of it or not maybe he knew he was going to die because there were so many of them but but I do appreciate the fact that he made his decision to just being okay with dying because there was something for him at the other side and that was part of him and his belief system and his culture so I don't know that all that stuff was pretty awesome as well yeah I think that's you hit that I mean because with him it seemed early on the movie that his path was made based on his dad right members of his dad was a terrible person and we're going to be like our dad and he's going to set this on this path. And that's where I kind of went into

when I spoke about how the vampires were by the numbers. I think that was on purpose. And so it's about culture and it's about path. It's like, this is our way. It's our way of the highway. That was the vampire way. You're going to join us. You're going to join our collective like Lance said. And then with his father, the preacher, the same thing. It's this way. This is our way. You have to choose this way you can't choose your own path and i think that's why the vampires with the demon i think they kept calling it the hate you know that there was only one way to be a vampire and you have to choose either this way or that way and i think that's why i kind of revolved around sammy why he kind of had that decision make his own choice i could and that's why i'm saying they were mirror

crossroads yeah yeah crossroads yeah yeah 100 and who who made it at the end i think it was a stack at the end, right? With the wife and married. Yeah. So I think he, along with Sammy, made that decision at the end. He didn't choose the path of stay. He could have. He could have just laughed and said, you know, I'm going to still do what, you know, what my daddy did and all that stuff. But no, he broke out of that. He said, I'm not going to be like that. I'm not going to be like this. I'm going to make my own decision and stand here. And that's the decision Sammy made at the end. You know, he went back to his dad, you know, all busted up. His guitar was busted up. He said, Hey, Sammy, come join us.

He made his own path, which was that great post-credit scene, which he showed. And even the vampires as well. And if you notice when that final battle between Sammy and the head vampire, when he smashed him with his guitar and he had that big old thing, you can see everybody was hurting. They were like, all holding their head. Yeah, they had to hide. I think that kind of broke the spell. They were all part of one. You know what you said.

Elected. Yeah. And when, and it was, uh, Stacks wife said, you know, hey, these aren't people anymore. They're demons that are possessing, whatever they're gone. Turned out she was wrong. You saw that at the end of the post credit. You know, it was that with, with smoke and, and, um, what was the name, Mary? Haley Steinbilt.

Yeah. They were, they were able to, once that head and Vadden Pire was gone and, and that whatever, that spell was broken, they were able to be their own. people, right? They left him alone. They didn't try to kill them. They weren't these raging vampires and all that. They kind of mirrored what, like Louis and interview with a vampire, and that's why I thought it was a great pairing.

Because those two kind of mirrored his lifestyle. They made that choice. And even when it was brother against brother, I think he kind of broke the spell there because he made that choice to listen to his brother. He said, let me, you leave them alone.

Right? And that's what he said. Hey, I made that promise to leave you alone till the end of your life. He made that decision as a raging vampire. So this was all about culture. This is our vampire culture. This is our Christian Baptist culture. This is our gangster life, you know, criminal culture. No, we're going to make our own decision.

And I think all three of them ended up making their own decision, not going down the path that was predetermined for them by others. And I think they all, smoke made that decision as a vampire and was able to live his life seems peacefully right right yeah i was i was gonna say another scene that was amazing to me was because um was um sammy sammy's father had told him that the blues bring the devil right the blues is evil that was that was part of the religious guilt and and it you know in a way it did because they brought remick it brought the the vampire um but i like that scene where

we're seeing that trans, right, with all the different generations of music of African-American. Oh, that was fantastic. So now you're thinking, so now you're thinking, oh, okay, so this is kind of getting a little supernatural here, but it's not because it was the whole time, it was from the point of view of Remick. He's seeing that, because he could see the spirits because he's a vampire, you know, and as they come out of the, as they come out of the juke join, you could see how Remick could see all that stuff, and they just showed that big white shot of all the vampires. Well, at that time, there's only three of them, and they're seeing what we're seeing, you know, inside. That was a great fucking shot right there.

Oh, I love that. Yeah. That was probably one of the best scenes is showing. Yeah. Future, past, his future, his past, our future, you know, everything in the middle. Just what music and what culture brings and what it does. But it doesn't. I really like the vampire musical number, too.

Oh, yeah, yeah. All the other scenes. That's right. Yes. yeah yeah what a great scene that was man and it was i mean i probably took days to film man it was just an amazing performance right what about what about uh i feel like we haven't really talked about that the the girl from uh from loki the what's her name um she's got she's got kind of a wacky name but she i think her name was her name was annie in the movie okay um the one that the one that

had all the spouse you know she sold that snake oil to everyone um okay sure I mean, I mean, her main purpose was for exposition, right? She's the one that's telling us what's happening. And every, like the witch doctor lady? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Which? That's wife.

Yeah. Her job was to kind of let everybody know what's going on. And, you know, every film just kind of has a person like that because you need it for the exposition. But I thought she also did a great job because she was, again, no, in the beginning, she, yeah, she was calling it the hate. But then that's completely different than vampires because then she's, she corrects herself. She's like, oh, she's a vampire. But I like how Ryan Cluey wrote it to

where they're all discovering what's happening. They just don't magically know. You know, there's corrections along the way. Which is good. Yeah. You don't see that all the time. Going on. And again, well, she was wrong. You know, she said, hey, that's not your brother anymore. That's just some demon that's possessed them. And she ended up being wrong. And I love that. I love when you have the expert and they just don't have the easy answer. And, you know, they're the old grand, you know, sage or whatever they are and just, you know, everything you say is gossip and you have to stick with it. I really, like you said, she corrected herself and then she was wrong about them at the end and you saw that with smoking and Mary.

She's also like, I'm going to cook up all these roots, but what you really need is holy water. Yeah, right. That's right. I like remix introduction. I thought it was very unnerving and creepy because you have no history. This character just shows up towards the third act of the film. He's damn near burning up because of the Sunrise asking for help. And then you have, they said it, folks, not me, these engines going after them.

What happened to them? They got the hell out. They knew that they were smart enough to get the hell out. It was nighttime and this motherfucker was going to get powerful, so they bombed. Right. But then I figured they would have come back into the story at some point. That was my only... Well, there was only two and a half hours, dude.

I mean, and that's what they were saying. She said she wanted more backstory. That's not the best time to fight vampires at night when they're most powerful. Not always. Maybe the engines were waiting for them in the morning. We don't know. Yeah. Well, right.

But you brought them into the story. and they just disappeared. I was like, ah, where I like, they turned out. They would have come back. Yeah. I think they were just there to just, to let you know how dangerous this guy really is. Yeah. And what the danger is cutting.

It's like, now you know what's coming, you know. These guys go better. They're like, and when they're like, their warriors, they're fighting this guy, and they're like, no, no, no, we're getting the fuck out. Let's go home. You know there's some danger coming. They were the pre-war. And I do like what Pedro is saying about Jack O'Connell, I believe,

was the actor that played Remick. We didn't get a lot on him, but we got little stuff on him to tell us a little bit about his character. Like when he paid with the gold coins, and she asked where those gold coins came from. And he said from a different land or different time, which I think goes into the dance, the Irish dance, because that's just giving you more of him. because and then sometimes his Irish accent

would come in very strong very strong coming in and out and I think that was on purpose yeah yeah little details like that

little details like that made this fucking movie awesome this was a this movie was a master class in accents Pedro something that

the vampire was not the Irish got treated like shit also absolutely absolutely and I think that was that was

folded into the story he made He did make a comment about the clan when he told him that this place is not a juke joint. It's a slaughterhouse. But he said we'll pay those bigots a visit later. Yeah. And he probably would have too.

Yeah, I'm sure he would have. Yeah. Well, one of the lines that I really liked that, that was, I thought it was like a very emotional line at the end when, when, what was the cousin? What's his name again? Sammy. when Sammy's talking to Stacks, right? When they visit him at the end at the bar,

and he's like, before nighttime, that was the best time of my life. You know, for everybody, because everybody was free. For a little while, everybody was free before nighttime, and then it all went to house. So he has the greatest...

So he has the worst night of his life. The worst day of his life is both the best and worst day of his life, you know? Yeah, he said that was the last time he saw his... brother alive. That's the last time he saw the sun sunrise. Yeah, for both of them. That's right. For both of them, it was the best and worst day. Yeah, I think, I mean, for Sammy, that was his, that was his point where he became his own person. He became his own man. He did. He was free of his dad. He was free

of, you know, because he visually, he wanted to be just like his cousins, right? And then he had one of his cousin. No, you don't be like this. You want to go be like your dad. He was still given him only the two options. So he wasn't getting it from everywhere Anybody to be your own man And to be who you want to be And that was the night that he got that decision That's when he became three

So that makes total sense why He said that's his greatest night ever Because that's what led him onto the path And what his life was, yeah That's awesome All right, well, I think we've talked enough guys I knew it was going to go a little long But we don't want to go too long

Yeah, okay Any last words? Brian Phillip? No I think we've covered a lot on this movie. Yeah, well, I knew we were going to... Go watch it, people. All right, Jay, thanks for coming by, man.

Thank you for having me. Great, great seeing you guys again, man. Pedro, always good. Yep. And for everybody else listening and I guess watching maybe on YouTube, thanks for listening or watching another episode of The Horror Returns. We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas.

You can find us at thehorrorreturns.com. Next week, it's going to be video game movies, I think, which can either be sometimes really good or sometimes really, really, really bad, right, Philip? Like that one we watch for, is it really that bad? House of the Dead, remember? Minecraft and House the Dead. Is that the two we're doing, Brian?

No. Oh, until dawn and 2000. 2006 stay alive. So how exciting. Jay. I know that I've ever seen you, though. We will. Until the horror returns again, Jay.

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