The Horror Returns - THR Bonus Ep. - Hannibal Season 1, Eps. 4 & 5
Episode Date: December 21, 2025This week, Brian and Lance bring you another Patreon Exclusive episode with the continuing saga of everyone's favorite cannibal. Thanks for listening! ...
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All right. Welcome back, everyone, all patrons, and everybody, once we release it later, because that's the plan, if they're not mistaken. Is that right, Brian?
Yeah, that is the plan. I say maybe
Patreon first and maybe like a week later, release it to the public.
But, you know, give the Patreon donors, you know, first dibs at it.
Sounds like a plan to me, man.
I mean, I definitely, I know we, and I do want to make a quick little announcement, Brian.
And all of our patrons that are listening, you guys mean the world to us.
cannot tell you guys how much we appreciate this
we've got plans to attend some
to get back to Frightmare again like we used to do
and we haven't done that in a few years
but you guys are you guys are single-handedly going to make it possible
so I just can't thank you all enough
and our listenership has jumped quite a bit as well
yeah I think Philip brought it up on the last episode
you know I kind of feel the same way you know I'm surprised
we've got people listening
especially
day one's like
Stephen Loblad and
all the way to
new listeners
is like Zim Vader
you know
yeah and Zim's going back
and checking out the old shows
so that you guys
mean the world to us so
enough of that bullshit
let's get on with the show
so
we are going with our Hannibal
season three
I believe episodes four and five
if I'm correct.
Yes, sir.
All right, so let's start with episode four,
and I'm going to butcher these pronunciations.
It's called O-F.
O-E-U-F.
Not sure if that's the right pronunciation, but we'll...
I could be mistaken, but are all these titles?
Aren't they like food references?
You know what?
They are all food references,
and I think this season is all French.
And I think season two, I looked ahead a little bit.
I think maybe it's Japanese.
Okay.
So maybe we're going to do the world tour here, Brian.
Sounds good.
All right.
So episode four, OF, a series of family murders takes place
and Will determines that they were conducted by each of the family's missing children
who were abducted and brainwashed into killing their old families for their new family.
against Alana's advice
Hannibal checks Abigail
out of the hospital
for some frightening
psychiatric practices
that ultimately align
her loyalty with him
now why does that not surprise me
the guy's always
a few steps ahead on everybody
everything is calculated
and playing down
I'll tell you what man
I am really getting into this
Mads-Mickleson Hannibal Lecter
though he's he's great
he's smooth and charming you know intelligent but at the same time frightening because you know
what he's done and what he's capable of yep well you know the man has good taste right
and i'm not going to lie i i know what he's eating i know what he's serving everybody
but it it looks it looks good yeah uh i would say just show up
and feast on whatever he's preparing,
but just don't ask any questions.
I mean, there's been a few times the questions
been asked of what it is,
and I don't know if it was this episode or the next episode,
but Lawrence Fishburn was enjoying his food,
and he told him it was rabid.
And then you kind of get a flash
to Hannibal chasing someone down,
then you get the next flash of him butchering it,
and then serving it.
Lawrence Fishburn.
Man, that, that's, uh, I would say that's some well done script.
I'm, I'm not going to do any more food buns.
All right.
Let's see.
Director Peter Medek, also known for the changeling.
Wow.
Um, and the ruling class.
Uh, you're not familiar with the ruling class.
Are you?
No.
And is the changeling, the,
old school
horror movie or the Angelina
Jolie changing movie?
I think it's the old school, man.
I think it's the old school.
I think this is a guy that's been around for a while.
George C. Scott?
Yep, the 1980.
Yeah, George C. Scott,
a.k.a. Native American.
It's the changeling.
Oh, yes.
All right.
So this is a direct...
They're pulling in some...
some heavy hitters man
to direct these episodes
it shows
every episode we watched
so far has been well directed
well shot
yeah let's hope they can keep it up
and hopefully by the time we're done with this
they'll announce a movie or a new season right
what is it Brian Fuller
is that what it is? Yeah I think he's who started it
yeah I think he keeps teasing that
it's slowly getting
closer
so but he
is just
streaming wars
whoever wants to pick it out
yes
the pot is boiling
all right
again
no more punts
here we go
okay the title
of is a common
misspelling of the French word for egg
usually accepted
for technical reasons
when the ligature of O and E is not
available
I have no idea what ligatured means.
The ligatured O&E is of more common usage in French than in English, and thus appears on French keyboards.
There you go.
That difficulty led NBC to make a further graphical mistake in the original titling of the episode, which referred to it as CF.
Okay.
And a little piece of trivia here.
Mads Mikkelson genuinely pricked his finger in the scene.
with the fish hook
so going all out for his
for his art so
Brian what did you think about this one man
I was
surprised
not with the
the child
the missing children are the ones
killing their families but it was
the actress they got to play
yes
I don't have
I miss
forgetting her name on top of my head
but I always every time I see her I was like a superstar
Molly Shannon
Molly Shannon that's who
Classic Saturday Night Live alumni
She was kind of terrifying
She was
Because I mean
It wasn't anything she did
It was just the way she was talking to these kids
you know, telling them, you know, the families we born in aren't our real families.
You know, we get to choose our families and, you know, basically brainwashing these kids.
And then, you know, we get the reveal of, I don't know if it was the first or second family that got murdered that, uh,
apparently one of the kids didn't want to go through with it and they burned him alive.
Yeah, kind of some, uh, kind of harsh punishment there.
yeah um and the whole um conflict with will um feeling like he needs to to help these kids but at the
same time feeling like he can't help them because what they've already been going through uh i'm enjoying
that whole conflict and then um trying to not get episode four and five mixed up but uh yeah this
I call, or my notes, I put the cancer episode for number five.
Okay, is that, is that this, that's number five?
Yeah, yeah.
Okay, okay, so that's what I was about to bring up, but we can, we can wait on that.
Yeah, this is the, the kid got so terrified that he pissed his pants when he was in.
Yeah, because the oldest kid was, I kind of felt like he knew that the one kid wasn't going to be able to go through with it.
And I think he was just kind of putting the fear into him, which was kind of scary the way they were at the store.
And the older kid was just lurking around the corner, staring at him.
Yeah.
Yeah, it was pretty sinister kids here, huh?
Yeah, because you can tell the older one, he bought full into whatever Molly Shannon superstar was, was whatever she was preaching.
He was all in on it.
Yeah.
You know what? I kind of got some Lake Eden vibes here with that, you know, because like some of the, she was kind of like the asshole kid that was leading everybody around.
And then I guess the one that got into it was maybe kind of like the black kid, which you guess it was a lot more gung-ho to do everything.
And then, of course, you got the ones that are, yeah, I mean, you can't blame these kids for not being so sure that.
You know, not being completely brainwashed and not being so sure that this is the right thing to do, you know?
Yeah.
It's an interesting dynamic, but, yeah, I think Molly Shannon was a great choice for this role.
I never would have expected that.
And then we got a little bit more with the crew that Will works with.
Kind of seems like one of the forensic guys doesn't like Will because he was kind of throwing shots at him.
when they were talking about psychology and kids
and he made a comment
he was like, you're
you're definitely a only child
and we'll kind of snap back at him
you're definitely the middle child always
seeking approval from one or the other
you know.
Sure.
Everybody's trying to psychoanalyze each other, right?
Yeah, and I forget the character's name
that the Asian chick
she was kind of like reaching out the will basically I think it was in this episode
basically like if you need to talk you know all you have to do is just say something
you know I'm not gonna I'm not gonna pry into your business but I'm you know if you
say something I'll be here talk you know I thought that that was pretty cool you know
there there some of them are trying to build a relationship with Will because he's so
you know, closed off, which is
perfectly understandable,
you know, just what he goes through
with just
the fact that
what he goes through trying to figure out these crimes
and putting himself in the place of the killer
and, you know, it's kind of cool
to see somebody actually, you know,
reaching out to him because Laura's Fishburn,
you know, we're kind of getting to these
episodes where he's kind of been hard on him.
Yeah, and I'm wanting to know
how that dynamic is
going to turn out.
So I don't, I've read all the books and obviously
seen all the films, but I don't know, man.
They've got, if they're doing a whole, you know,
three seasons here, there's a lot of character development
that we have in front of us.
So I'm kind of curious how that's going to play out.
One thing I noticed early in the show, did you notice
that when Lecter got broke, kind of did some B&E there?
And he got the dog just completely calm.
Like, you know, usually when somebody breaks into a house, the dog starts barking uncontrollably.
But it's almost like Lecter not only manipulates humans, but he's like a dog whisper, too, you know?
Yeah, he has some hidden talents there.
You know, some will get into it with the next episode.
But, yeah, he was definitely had his way with the dog.
And then was just kind of, I don't know, getting more information.
information on Will and saw the fly fishing stuff.
Yeah, did you like Lecter's line about passion is good?
It gets the, it gets the blood pumping.
Yeah.
Of course, like I was telling you, I noticed that he served the beer in the glass,
which kind of reminds me of the opening scene and,
uh, shit, one of my favorite movies from 99, um,
the one with space, Kevin Spacey in it.
American Beauty, yeah.
Yeah, so if you'll remember the beginning of that movie, his boss kind of tricked him, right?
He said, do you, so do you drink, he asked him, do you, do you have a minute?
In his face, he feels real confident and secure in his job, and he says, for you, I've got to.
And then his boss starts talking to him, and you can tell he's, he's setting him up for something, right?
They ask him a weird question, like, do you prefer beer out of a glass or straight from the bottle?
in space he says oh i like my beer in a glass and says well that's a shame because we really need a
straight from the bottle kind of guy in your position i'll never forget that line but that that says
a lot about lector man that he takes the time to you know well i mean you see him when he's cooking
and preparing all these dishes like everything's perfect right like just like you would be like at a
at a michelin star restaurant and you know of course he takes the same care with the glass
It seems to take that same care with a lot of things.
Mm-hmm.
Yeah, and so it's almost like if Lecter messes up and gets caught or something,
it's like it's because he wants, he wants to, I would imagine.
You know?
Going off at that scene, how do you feel about the other therapist?
I think we got a long way to go.
Yeah, I do know Lector.
he'll start he'll start psychoanalyzing anybody
like whoever's in the room
whatever they say he's got a way to twist it
and he's he always he always maintains control
so like you were saying lots lots of talents
I want to see how those develop
but I don't know man I'm not
a lot of the side characters I'm interested in
but not so sure about the other therapists
at this point
what her attitude
just kind of pushes me away from that character
you know she's very right just um like uh lector took the girl out of the where the
i don't know the institution or whatever they had her wherever they had her right yeah
hospital institution and she immediately found when she found out just blew up on them you know
not not really knowing because you know she's totally against hannibal and will because they've
kind of taken like a paternal you know feeling towards her you know since her parents
are gone and, you know, she's basically like, you know, you guys are not her father, you know, so I don't, I, I, I, you're right, we're going to have to see where, where this goes, because she's probably my least favorite character.
Yeah, I like, uh, the reporter quite a bit. Yeah. I kind of like the way that they changed, changed her from, uh, of course, a male character. Wasn't it Philip Seymour Hoffman in the, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah, big, big change there.
which I'm eager to see where this goes.
And she's not bad looking either.
Kind of easy on the eyes.
Absolutely.
Love that curly red hair, too.
That opens up some possibilities.
I wonder if there's going to be any seduction between her and Will at all.
Because I know he's a hard guy to.
I'm sure he's a hard guy to get to, right?
Yeah.
What was I going to bring up?
The girl.
What did you think about the whole...
Psychedelic T scenes.
That was kind of cool, man.
I think that that might be something that's going to be an ongoing theme here,
because it definitely seems like Lecter understands the value of, you know,
experimenting with psychedelics and expanding his mind and stuff like that.
I'd like to see where that's going to go as the season progresses.
I think that's...
And I like it wasn't...
sprung on and sprung on her as a surprise. He told her what it was
because she was like, you know, you want me to do drugs? And he was like, I want you to do this drug
under my care. Absolutely. I kind of
like the payout at the end when the other therapist came. And
she kind of was, they were kind of morphing into her mother and father.
And then she was just smiling. Right. And said, I see family.
And I kind of, well, not kind of. I definitely felt like
handled. That was his end
goal to bring her closer
to, you know, because
they have their secrets
of what each other's done, you know.
So
I'm really interested to see where that
character's going and
will he divulge
more of what he's done
to her since they got this close
bond building? Oh, okay.
Yeah, I could definitely
see that happening. And so you're
definitely of the mind that
that he actually cares about.
Yeah.
He's not just grooming her to use her as a tool or...
I think he cares about her.
Maybe a little beach.
Yeah, I think definitely he cares about her.
And I think definitely Will cares about her.
But he's...
Right.
I think he's kind of conflicted because he got the scene where he was going to give her a fly fishing kid to work on herself.
And I think he didn't end up giving it to her.
And I think the other therapist was kind of in his head trying to, you know, tell him to
not get so close and involved.
But I also think he generally
cares about her, too.
What did you think about that line here?
I wrote it down. I liked it so much.
Is if you bond with your captors, you're okay.
If not, your breakfast.
I mean,
as far as Hannibal's concerned, you know,
you want to be on his good side.
Yeah, no doubt about that, right?
Because, I mean, they did have breakfast for dinner, and, you know, I don't know if there was any meat involved, but if there was, it most certainly probably was somebody.
Yes, that's not bacon.
Yeah.
Might smell like it when it's cooking, but it's not bacon.
Yeah, man, overall, I really enjoyed this episode.
I, Molly Shannon was amazing, which, I mean, obviously she's a talented actress.
But I've never, I don't know if I've ever seen her play a sinister role.
And I really enjoyed that in the whole Lost Boys angle, you know, with the kids and her creating families and stuff like that.
This was actually one of my favorite that we've seen so far.
I did a little bit.
I kind of wanted maybe a little bit more backstory.
her character because
the one kid asked her
what about your real family
and then the older kid was like we are her real
family so
he kind of cut that the whole
explanation off
right so I would have kind of
wanted to see what motivated her
to kidnap children and then
having them kill their families
you know did this happen to her
or
or what but yeah she definitely
was a
great role great role for her because like i said it wasn't anything she did is just the way
she came off you know nurturing motherly but at the same time kind of sinister so
ready to kill the whole family to get the kids on a killing spree huh yeah even like we brought
up the scene of when the the kid had an accident and pissed himself uh-huh and you know she was
nurturing then because she was like you know people people have accidents and you know this is this is not
your fault you didn't do nothing wrong you know just you know kind of nurturing but then the next
minute is like you know let's go kill your family now yeah she had the dichotomy going for sure
didn't she which i kind of want to i kind of want to label sometime later on in the season maybe
we get an update on that kid
Because he said he wasn't going to do it.
Right.
So I kind of wanted to know, was he really going to do it or was he not going to do it?
And Lawrence Fishburn basically told him you're not going to be able to see your real family for a while.
So you feel like we're going to get a payoff maybe later down.
I don't know about payoff, but maybe because Will really seem to care about this case a lot, especially when it did.
They got labeled the Lost Boys and he was trying to figure out how to help them.
I just maybe we'll just something will get mentioned sometime this season.
It was a good angle, man.
I give this episode a definite thumbs up.
Yeah, me too.
Probably my favorite so far of the series, I think, which is saying a lot, you know,
because everyone we've seen has been really well done.
so i don't remember are we doing scores on these or not no just doing a wrap-up right yeah you guys
got the thumbs up in both thumbs up yeah all right uh ready to move on to five let's do it
all right so it's season one episode five or as i called it the cancer episode um and okay now
this one i actually i'm gonna have a hell of a time pronouncing
Coquilles, does not sound French, sounds more Spanish, but coquees, somebody's going to email us, I'm sure.
Somebody's yelling.
Okay, a murdered couple is found in a motel room, posed in praying positions.
Now, how creepy was that?
Very midsamar.
Midsamar.
That's right.
What do they call that, the flayed eagle or?
The blood eagle.
The blood eagle.
Okay.
The flesh of their backs open and strung to the ceiling to give them the appearance of wings.
Using hairs collected from the motel pillow, the BAU team,
discover several medications used to treat brain tumors in the killer's bloodstream.
Graham surmises that the killer is transforming his victims into guardian angels to watch over him
because he is afraid of dying in his sleep.
Wow.
Okay, now, this is interesting.
Director Germo Navarro, get this, dude.
He hasn't directed any other films, but you might have heard of these two.
He was a cinematographer on Pans Labyrinth as well as Jackie Brown.
I've heard of those movies.
Yeah.
All right, so the definition, Coquilis, any of various seafood or chicken dishes,
baked with a sauce and usually served in a scallop shell or a shell-shaped serving dish.
Sounds delicious.
Hell yeah. Also, a cooking utensil for baking such dishes, usually a scallop shell or small casserole resembling a shell.
And one piece of trivia here.
When Jack and Bella Crawford are at dinner with Hannibal Lecter,
Hannibal says to Bella, Mrs. Crawford, your husband introduced you as Bella.
Are you an Isabel or an Annabelle?
To which she replies, I'm a Phyllis.
This is almost a direct quote from The Shining.
Save for the names when Dick Holleran says,
Mrs. Torrance, your husband introduced you as Winifred.
Now, you are a Winnie or a Freddie?
And she replied, I'm a Wendy.
So, yeah, that's for sure, man.
There's no doubt about that, right?
Yeah.
All right.
So I guess let's dive in, man.
Yeah, the Blood Eagle.
What a way to start an episode.
Very, very graphic.
I do like the effects of how he sees the people.
They're walking around like flaming skulls or flaming their heads.
I did like that effect.
Right.
Not as brutal as Midsomer because that guy was still alive.
Yeah.
But I thought this was another.
scene, it just keeps making me think that this show is on network TV and I think this is probably
why it eventually got canceled because of the graphic nature and I thought it was done really
well and I like the kind of jump back and forth to this guy killing people suffering from
brain tumor and then we get introduced to Bella. Yes. We get a backstory on why he calls it Bella
because they were both, I think, in the military
and they were stationed in Italy or something.
And all the guys were calling her, Bella, Bella, Bella.
Oh, yeah, like, Chiabella.
Yeah, so he was like, I'm going to make her my Bella,
which he ended up doing, so.
Right.
And like I said, on the previous episode,
we got introduced to another one of Hannibal's talents.
He told a story about one of his professors, I think it was,
and how he was able to sniff out.
that he had cancer
which I think he was
basically kind of letting her know
I know you have cancer
because it's revealed that Bella is
what stage
three stage four cancer
man yeah well you know they say dogs can do that
or they say
because they say that a lot of the time
in like when people are in
a cancer ward or something like that
dogs are smelling on them
yeah the dogs can tell and I
I think maybe even cats as well.
I mean, obviously animals have so many senses that we don't have.
Yeah, because he kind of drops his talent on him while he's, he has them both over for dinner.
So who knows who they're eating this time.
Yeah, right.
But he smells her perfume, and he's like breaking down all the little different things that are in her perfume.
And then he names her perfume.
And then that's when she was like, it's quite a nose you have.
And then that's when he tells the story about the cancer, his professor with cancer.
And I think he was kind of letting her know that I know you have cancer, which she ends up behind her kind of, I don't want to say behind her husband's back, but ends up seeing Hannibal on a patient, doctor patient level.
Yep, yep.
Because she has not revealed to Lawrence Fishburn that she is sick to the point where he's questioning.
that she might be having an affair or she might she's doing something she's hiding something from me
and it's right yeah and that's man i i would much rather i hate to say but i've you know i'd
much rather find out a j was like having an affair or something like that because that you can
always work that stuff out but uh cancer man that's a that's a hard hard road hard yeah and as
as far as she is too
that that was a blow to
to hear that and then
eventually when he finds out
I do like that he
asked her do you want to be alone
either way I'm here for you
and then she was like
we'll beat this together
and then he tells her no this is your
fight but I'm in your corner
I like I enjoyed that whole
back and forth right there
yeah very very well done man
so going back to the
to the beginning of the episode or
kind of early on, that is something that I thought
was kind of strange.
Was this the first time we've seen Will out
like sleepwalking or
has that come up in the previous episode?
Sleepwalking miles away from his
home? Right.
I think this is the first time
and I think
he mentions it later
that
being back doing
these cases is
taking a toll on him.
Yeah, definitely.
Which Lawrence Fishburn kind of tells him, like, if you weren't doing this, you'd still be looking into it.
So it's almost like, you have to do it, but you can't do it at the same time.
So he's kind of a compulsion.
Yeah, so he's kind of in a tricky place right now.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
Which, that whole scene was kind of crazy because the cops were like, you know, or have you been drinking?
Do you take medication?
Do you sleepwalk a lot?
And he was like, I don't even know if I'm awake right now.
you know yeah that was like wow yeah well he didn't at least he didn't pull a rosan bar right
yeah yeah he had a he had a friend with him he had a friend walking with him the whole time right
one of one of his many dogs one of his many strays that he takes in yeah i don't think we
really talked about that he he takes in strays and his whole house is he has a pretty big house
for a single guy, and it's just dogs everywhere that he takes care, which I think that's
kind of cool.
Yeah, and it's very, very interesting the way that, you know, he's that way with animals,
and so is lector.
Like, there's a gentle side or, you know, because animals know to fear a dangerous person.
And it's, and it's also like he has replaced people with dogs.
because he talks to these dogs
and then you see him interact with people
and it's very awkward
and you know
I think he's essentially
these dogs have become
people for him to interact with
instead of actual people
absolutely dude
my mother is that way
she uh she was
very uh she was really involved
in docks and rescue
for several years at one point
Brian she had
over 20 dogs that she was taken care of.
And they get to be quite expensive because she tends to adopt, you know, dogs that have special needs, like paralyzed from the, from the waist down, or, you know, they've maybe been abused or something like that.
She has to take sure.
Yeah, my wife, my wife want to do adopt, to kind of do the temporary foster home for dogs.
Yeah.
But I told her it would never work because you would keep every single one.
that's the problem yeah that's the problem and yeah mom she's finally uh since i've moved her up to new mexico
she's finally downed i think only only three dogs and a cat now but she definitely needs to keep that
cat to keep the the mice and the snakes and everything away oh definitely cats are good for that
oh my my hand of elector line of the movie i'm gonna i think i'm gonna do this every every show brian
all right sounds good okay so here's here's my favorite
um office hours are for clients uh my kitchen is always open to friends he said that to will that that that that's saying that's really set up the dynamic with these two characters yeah i think i think that's another genuine relationship to i think he really he really likes will and i think his the way will is i kind of feel like
it's also a challenge to Hannibal
to kind of...
Oh, of course.
Yeah, of course.
Kind of crack will, you know,
trying to get it,
get into his head.
Oh, yeah.
And then when he gets into, like,
telling him cruelty is a gift.
So you see where he's going, right?
So we're jumping back to the
killer of the episode.
Okay.
He ends up...
after he's killed a couple more people,
he actually does the same thing to himself,
which,
did he really do that to himself,
or did he have help?
How could he?
I mean, that's kind of what I was wondering.
It's like somebody had to be complicit in that,
but they didn't go into that.
So, again, like what you said with Molly Shannon
in the last episode,
you would have liked to have known her backstory.
You know, it certainly wouldn't have hurt to have, you know, a two-minute scene, right?
Yeah, because they talk to his wife and they ask him, is he religious?
And she was like, no, he's never been religious.
Right.
But everything he seems to be doing is, you know, for the Lord.
And, you know, he's fighting evil.
And then we get the scene, Will is besides the sleepwalking, he's starting to hallucinate now.
yeah how far is this going to go by the time we get to the you know the final episode here i think
because he's going to continue to do what he's doing because you get the scene because he wanted
to quit and then it was kind of an interesting scene where you know after the news that
laurence fish i keep calling him laurence i'm just going to keep calling on laurence fish
Okay. There you go.
You know, he gets the news of his wife, and he's sitting there kind of thinking, and then Will shows up.
And he was like, I'm going to sit here until you talk to me.
And, you know, we have all night, you know, which is basically the same situation he was going through with his wife.
You know, I'm going to, I'm going to be here until you talk to me and let me know what's going on.
So I think with Will, yeah, I think with Will, I think the situation's going to.
going to get worse the more gruesome and you know difficult the cases get i think he's he's
going to i don't know if he's going to completely check out but he's he's definitely it's going to be a
lot more sessions with hannibal definitely well that's that that can only be a good thing right
yeah maybe for hannibal because he seems to be right when he takes a liking to someone he seems to bring a
closer a little bit at a time now let me ask you this did you see the the film from last year
saint maude yes and did you get serious saint maud vibes here yes from the guy and the visions
he was having and stuff like that definitely so what's his backstory i mean what got him into
this religion you know uh i think they said i don't know if he got into a religion because
his wife said he wasn't religious but yeah he said he had a he had a
near-death experience.
Ah, okay.
And maybe the
near-death experience
along with the tumor
kind of created
this
visions that
he has and
I don't know, maybe
some of the medication
he was on too, because
possible, yeah, or a combination
of all of that, right?
Yeah. Maybe
when he had the near-death
experience, he actually saw the
afterlife.
Mm-hmm. Maybe he had a martyrs situation.
Oh, yeah, that's right.
Maybe he saw something or thought he saw something and maybe what he saw a scene was this mission he was on to rid people,
which I think they said the people that he had killed were bad people.
Yeah, I didn't catch that so much.
I think the first couple, I think they had done something, which I thought was kind of strange because that kind of would lead you to believe that this episode kind of had a supernatural angle.
Oh, you know what?
It was.
He was going after people that seemed to be guilty of something.
Yeah.
So it was kind of like an avenging angel type scenario, I guess.
You just blood eagle everybody.
well you know again so here's the here's the thing with I'm sure we're going to run into this time and time again as as we go through the season but these are basically I mean you've got your ongoing storylines and character development but these are basically you know one-off stories so there's going to be a lot of unanswered questions you know there's going to be a lot of you know things where we don't get the whole backstory and I think we're just going to have to go with that yeah definitely because it's you know I don't want to call it typical but like you know like you know like
superhero TV shows, you know,
villain of the week, you know.
A villain of the week, or Star Trek.
Yeah, definitely.
They had to solve the problem of the week or whatever.
Yeah.
And they always did it all in the last 90 seconds.
Yeah, by the end of the episode,
everything would be taken care of,
and you know you'd never see this character again.
Ever again.
Yeah, definitely getting those vibes, for sure.
All right, anything else on this one?
No, another great episode.
um totally in everything we've seen so far and talked about i completely enjoyed so i'm just
looking forward to the next episode all right well we'll uh we'll be back next week for
for what season or for episodes uh six and seven yep so we're moving right along so uh until
hannibal attacks again i don't know bon appetit there you go
Oh, Abidee, bitch!
