The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #101: The Perfect Host (2010) & Bad Samaritan (2018) (Reupload)

Episode Date: March 24, 2023

This week Patrick Lear joins us to talk about some home invasion movies. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehor...rorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, this is Fiona Duref, and you are listening to The Horror Returns. As victims, for those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify, go. Welcome. You have found a place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Everybody, welcome back to the horror returns.
Starting point is 00:01:10 I'm Lance, and with me as always is my co-host, Brian. Phillips got a little league game tonight, and I think he's still recovering from Fright Mare. But we got a great stand in. Our number one fan and editor-in-chief, Patrick Lear, what's up, Patrick? Hey, guys. How's it going? We're doing good, man. I don't know about Brian. Get stuck in Alaska during the Frightmare, God damn it. Yeah, well, he certainly missed him.
Starting point is 00:01:40 Yeah, that sucks, but it's always next year. That's true. Well, I know me and Phil are going to do our Frightmare coverage in a special one-off show probably in a week or two. But Patrick, since Brian couldn't be there, and I guess, unfortunately, most of our listeners, which, if we got to set something up for the future, what do you guys think in here? Like a meetup or something? It seemed like the place to do it. I know Texas isn't super centralized, but it's in Dallas, which is at least on the... the north side of the state, you know?
Starting point is 00:02:17 Yeah, that sounds pretty cool. And it's a main thoroughfare too, so, for planes and stuff. Yeah, and it's right there literally at the airport. I mean, it can't get much more convenient than that. So, uh, all right, Pat, give us the rundown, dude. What did you think? What were your high points? What were the low points, if any?
Starting point is 00:02:37 Are you glad? Um, oh, I'm definitely glad I went. Um, I mean, for me, it was a lot of things, just getting to hang out with the whole returns a bunch is always fun. But I really enjoyed a lot of the stuff. Just the costumes were pretty cool. The Jason panel was entertaining. And then Sunday I went and sat in on the It panel,
Starting point is 00:03:00 and that was kind of cool, just hearing the kids talk about stuff. And the little kid that played Georgie kind of stole the show. Oh, yeah? He really is a little, I mean, he's like, what, eight, seven or eight? Yeah, I saw him at his table. He looked like he was about two feet. He looked smaller than Chuckie, man.
Starting point is 00:03:20 Yeah. He loved telling stories. He liked being in the spotlight. So it was pretty cool. It was fun to hear coming and the others. And so they told some stories about the set and all that stuff. So it was pretty cool. And then just, of course, got to meet the Nez, which was pretty awesome.
Starting point is 00:03:40 Oh, yeah. Shout out to Nez, man. He was the glue and built us all together. I think he was the only sober one. Yeah, yeah. It may have been. But no, it was good times. I mean, it was a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I mean, I would have liked to have had a little bit stronger guess list, but, you know, I can't. It's like I told Kevin, you know, you can't judge a con on the first year ago, and you almost have to give it two or three shots because you never know from one year to the next, how they're going to do things. So I think my biggest disappointment was we didn't get to see a lot of celebrities in the bar and stuff. You know, I know like last year you got to do that. And it seemed like they were all, I don't know if they were all in somebody's room doing blow or what. They weren't out hanging out the bar. I'm sure they weren't all doing blow. Something.
Starting point is 00:04:39 Yeah, dude, it was packed. huh? Yeah. Yeah, it was crazy amount of people there. It was ridiculous. It was a lot more crowded than last year. So I will say this, and then of course anything else I'll cover when we do our wrap-up with Bill, but I didn't see anybody at all in the bar, but I had one brush with fame Saturday morning, Pat. I told you about
Starting point is 00:05:03 that, right? I think you did. Yeah, I was, so somebody Friday gave me a cookie. and I don't know what was in that cookie. Uh-oh. But, uh, dude, I slept like 10 hours, man. I was asleep at 8 o'clock. And I got up about, I guess I got, well, shit, I got up about 7.
Starting point is 00:05:24 I slept like 11 hours, man. And, uh, nobody else was up yet. So I went and hit the gym for, for about 45 minutes. And, and who was right next to me doing bench presses? The great Tom Savini sex machine. He's still keeping it in order, guys. That was pretty cool. Real down-to-earth guy, a lot of people talk about he's intimidating and all that.
Starting point is 00:05:47 That's bullshit, man. We talked for quite a while. He said they told him there were 18,000 attendees, but he said it looked like a hell of a lot more than that. And you know, he's done a lot of cons. Yeah. You know, so he definitely knows what he's talking about. But, yeah, I was real disappointed.
Starting point is 00:06:05 We didn't run it anybody in the bar, man. Yeah, it was definitely kind of, week on that end. But I will say to this, while Lance was sleeping it off at 7 o'clock at night, Ness and I kept it going until about 1.30 to the morning. So, you guys didn't right.
Starting point is 00:06:21 We were still not representing. Absolutely. All right, man. Well, other than that, Pat, what's your cool of the week, man? The Copacai series. Yes. It was a lot of fun. So, I enjoyed it. That can't be good.
Starting point is 00:06:38 it was so good I watched it twice Are you serious? Yes It hit all those Those nostalgic beats from the old series Exactly And I'm about halfway through it
Starting point is 00:06:52 I hadn't watched them all yet But I'm about five or six episodes in So But yeah It's been a lot of fun Mm-hmm Is that your full of the week too, Brian? I got a couple movies
Starting point is 00:07:05 But yeah it was on my list let's see the movies I checked out downrange Shuttle exclusive I've been wanting to see that yeah yeah yeah yeah it's pretty good
Starting point is 00:07:16 it's about a sniper got got people pinned down on a kind of deserted road or somewhere in the middle it's in the middle of nowhere and right you know I mean I don't want to spoil nothing
Starting point is 00:07:30 but you know there was a decent gore and my wife don't really get into movies like that, but she enjoyed it. So, it's probably saying a lot. That is saying a lot. Was it anything like rubber? I have not seen rubber.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Okay. But it's funny since we, somebody brought that up because my brother-in-law's girlfriend had just asked us if we wanted to watch it. So I think I'll be checking it out here soon. Cool. Yeah. I don't regret it, man. And I also checked out a primal
Starting point is 00:08:06 rage. Bigfoot movie. Oh, any good? It's okay. I like the look of the look of Bigfoot, a different look than what you're usually seen in other movies, but it was a decent Bigfoot movie. He wasn't all blurry.
Starting point is 00:08:27 And, yeah, that's all I checked out. All right, yeah, my cool of the week, hands down, guys. You already love this one. Anybody ever heard of of a huge mega budget
Starting point is 00:08:41 horror release that just came out called Snake Out of Compton? I've seen it available. Have you? Yeah. I haven't watched it yet, but... All right. It really, okay, it really reminded me of those terrible heavy metal horror movies we watched with the horror
Starting point is 00:09:02 mafia last month. Okay. Because it's kind of like a little bit of music interspersed with with the action scenes. But, yeah, I don't want to give too much away. I don't even want to... There's like a really funny intro that ties into it. It ties into all these other movies,
Starting point is 00:09:20 and it has a lot... It has a ton of pop culture references in it. It's very cleverly written for a shitty B movie. Special effects are absolutely horrendous, and that almost kind of adds to the fun of the movie, so I'm giving nothing away, because it's a very important plot line and the ending is just
Starting point is 00:09:41 we'll have you on the edge of your seat Snake out of Compton. Check it out, guys. I'll have to look for it. All right, Brian, we got any news going on, man? Let's see. FX gave the green light for
Starting point is 00:09:59 what we do in the shadows in order to 10 episode series. Well, let's hope they don't wear out their welcome. with the jokes. I don't know if I'm down for this show, because it's going to be the American version.
Starting point is 00:10:16 Oh, no. So I do not think Tycho Watiti's involved in this. Well, how could he not be? I don't know. You think he could produce it or something? Yeah, but I don't know.
Starting point is 00:10:33 It's just, it doesn't feel right. I would have rather got that, what was it, the werewolf movie that was going to do as a spinoff? Yeah, swear wolves. Yeah. But we'll see. Let's see. Another TV series, a little bit about the Purge series came out.
Starting point is 00:10:55 They said it was going to be 70% purge, 30% flashbacks. So. Okay. We're going to get a little flashback, a little, basically a little telling of what the story is. and then it's just going to be mostly purging going on. Okay. All right. Look, I'm looking to, hold on,
Starting point is 00:11:15 if we can go back to this, what we do in the shadow, man. I'm looking at the, if I'm looking at the right thing in IMDB, it shows the cast, and there's some guy named Matt Berry that's starring in it, a British actor. Okay.
Starting point is 00:11:28 It seems like a Jermaine Clement look-alike, man. Huh. So, come on. If you're going to do that, just put fucking Jermaine Clements in it. probably couldn't get i don't know like i said this something something doesn't feel right about this uh no not at all what do you think pet you're gonna be passing on it or checking it uh you know i'll check out the first episode and see if it's anything i mean i'll give it a chance but uh yeah i
Starting point is 00:11:56 don't know i don't think it'll be anything like the original show um but you know who knows i mean it's always worth checking at least one episode i'll waste that much time on it yeah Yeah, I did that with Lost in Space, and I definitely never got past the first episode. It took me about four or five to tap out of that one. Oh, you didn't finish it? No, I haven't finished. I might go back and finish it at some point, but, you know, it kind of fell off my priority list. Yeah, I think I stopped about four episodes.
Starting point is 00:12:31 Got it. Let's see. Some movie news. We're getting Rambo 5. that's been confirmed Stallone is the writing script and made direct Well, why not?
Starting point is 00:12:45 And in this one, Rambo will be taken on the Mexican cartel. Okay. I have no idea why he would be doing that, but... Not the tornado. Yeah, I really enjoyed the last one, so... Yeah, actually, the last one was pretty good.
Starting point is 00:13:05 Yeah, I enjoyed all of them, man. Do you think he's going to be teaming up with Benicio del Toro and Cable? Wow. That trailer looks... Sicario looks awesome. Yeah, it does. It looks awesome, but it's kind of like... It just seems like a strange movie to make a sequel to, for some reason.
Starting point is 00:13:27 Well, the real question... The real question is, is, will it be a Cloverfield sequel? Sure. Let's see John Lithgow has been casted as Judd Crandall in the Pet Cemetery remake I can see that That was Fred Gwynn's character right
Starting point is 00:13:51 Yep Yeah Yeah that might not be too bad And let's see Our final A little bit of news here Kind of slow news week it's a rumor that Jamie Fox has been offered the role for Spawn.
Starting point is 00:14:11 Yeah, that one seems a little odd. Maybe if he dresses up as Wanda and does it? I could go for that. I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I like even some things, but I don't know if this is, I don't know. It seems just kind of weird now. Maybe it's one of those where you guys are.
Starting point is 00:14:32 a reserve judgment until you see it. Yeah, he's really hit or miss for me. And if we're going off a comic book roles, you know, Electro, that was a, that was a huge miss. Yeah, that's true. He was just a completely wrong casting for that role to begin with. Right. Agreed.
Starting point is 00:14:58 And that is the news. All right. Well, Pat, you're ready to take that trip with us, man? Let's do it. All right, where are we going? Get down to the trailer part. Brian, what's our first new trailer to talk about this week? Going to talk about Farrell, starring Scout Taylor Compton and directed by Mark Young.
Starting point is 00:15:23 What did you guys think? Quiet Place Part 2, with noise. This is the first thing I thought of. Oh, no. But is it part of the Cloverfield universe? That's the question. That's true. You never know.
Starting point is 00:15:39 You never know that they keep buying up these scripts and then changing them. Yeah, this didn't really excite me. I do like Scout Taylor Compton, but... Sure. It nothing really caught my eye on this one. This one's got a May 25th release, so... Yeah. I'll probably give it a try.
Starting point is 00:16:02 there's nothing else to watch. All right. Is it going to be a theater? Is it theatrical or? I think VOD. VOD. V and say I won't even have to waste a movie pass on it. Oh, speaking of movie pass, have you guys heard where they're going to limit it to one movie a week?
Starting point is 00:16:21 I didn't hear that, but that won't bother me too terribly much because I usually watch about one a week anyway. Yeah. But I did get selected. and I think it's because I watched, I watched like six in one week last month, but I got quote unquote randomly selected to do this new thing where I, after I purchased the ticket, I have to take a picture of it. Oh, so did I. And with the app, which is cool.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I did it today, and it worked just fine. So still no complaints. If it goes to one a week, man, when I paid $89 for a full year, I just don't have a lot of room to complain about it, you know? I'd rather them do that than quit doing it all together. Yeah, that makes sense. I would almost be happier with two a week, but heck, I haven't even had a chance to get out to one a week sometimes.
Starting point is 00:17:17 Still a little bit of a little. All right. All right, our next trailer we're going to talk about is Supergrid, starring Leo Fafar, Marshall Williams, Natalie Krill, and Jay Riso, and he is for all you W.W.E. fans, Christian. Ah, okay, so this to me is
Starting point is 00:17:39 I'm thinking this is going to scratch my itch that I've been missing ever since Blood Drive went off the air. Yes. Go ahead. No, it looks like, I can't wait. It looks like a lot of B-movie fun to me. And I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:17:56 you probably like it because the director, Lowell Dean, he did both the Wolfcott movies. And I like both the Wolfcott movies. Yeah, this one looks super fun. What'd you think, Patrick?
Starting point is 00:18:10 Yeah, same way. I mean, it looks cheesy, but it's supposed to be. So, I think it'll be entertaining on that level for sure.
Starting point is 00:18:20 No release date yet, but this is set to come out this year. Yeah. And our... There for sure. Yeah. definitely and I'm hearing this will probably be VOD as well and our final trailer we're going to talk about is sick for toys.
Starting point is 00:18:39 Sick for toys. I've been hearing a lot about this one. Yes, starring Camille Montgomery, John Paul, Burkhart, and a person we know, Justin Xavier, who is also one of the writers. Along with Jimmy O. Oh, that's right. That's right. Directed by David Del Rio. What did you guys think?
Starting point is 00:19:04 Pat, what do you think, man? It looks interesting for sure. I mean, I'm definitely interested in checking it out. Not just for those reasons, but because, you know, we know some of the people involved. So, or sort of, I haven't actually met them, but I'm going to at some point. So I'm interested in seeing it because, you know, I like supporting the little guy a little bit. and I think it actually looks pretty entertaining too, so,
Starting point is 00:19:31 and kind of morbid, which I like, so. Always my hopes. Yeah, yeah, this one looks like it is going to get an October release. So,
Starting point is 00:19:46 um, okay. When we hear more about it, we'll let you guys know. Yeah, it's doing, doing well on the festival circuit, man.
Starting point is 00:19:54 They were in, they were in Dallas while we were. Unfortunately, we couldn't get out of DFW. Oh, okay. But it did sell out. I know that it sold out, so that's a good sign. Yeah, I'm really interested after watching the trailer.
Starting point is 00:20:09 Dude, I was, I was, I'm going to be honest with you, man. I was very worried when I booted this trailer up because I'm like, oh, shit. You know, we do know a couple of guys involved in it, you know, pretty close. And I thought, oh, fuck, what if I don't like it? Guys, this looks fucking phenomenal, man. The production quality of at least the trailer. I mean, it looks like a major release to me. This didn't really have that indie feel to it.
Starting point is 00:20:40 It looked like a major fucking theatrical release. Yeah, Lance, do you know if this is getting a release in the theaters or not? I hope so, man. I hope so. But either way, either way, we're all going to check it out. And I definitely hope that we cover it on the movie. and I can think of a couple of really good things to put with it. I just love that fucking sexy chick that's just so fucking sadistic.
Starting point is 00:21:07 Yeah, that's... Was she having sex with a corpse? Or the guy that she was torturing or what? They're at the end. I don't know, but she really helped sell this trailer for me. No shit. The talented chick, man. She had me wanting to come over to her house for Christmas.
Starting point is 00:21:23 I'll tell you that right now. All right. Looks like it is everything, dude. It looks sick as shit. It looks like it's fucking with Christmas, which is a holiday that I fucking hate. And it's just, like I said, the production value looks so much, so much different from what I thought we were going to see. So, you know, hats off on the trailer, guys. We're looking forward to seeing the movie.
Starting point is 00:21:48 Wish we could have seen it this weekend. I'm sure we'll rectify that between now and July for sure. Yeah. For sure. So sick for toys. October release, and that is our last trailer. All right. Sounds good. Well, this is the part where our good friend, Phil, usually does listener feedback. So, of course, since he's not with us here tonight, Patrick, you mind taking over the duties?
Starting point is 00:22:15 Yeah, it looks like you guys get quite a bit today. So we'll start here regarding the movie Downrange, the Ryan Stevens, for those of you that know him, that's what he likes to go by. The Ryan Stevens. Going to give this one a watch after my workout this morning, I give it a six, not too bad. Thomas Mariani, in the wake of Ash versus Evil Dead series finale, here's a brief post-mortem for the Ash character and franchise overall. The article begins after 37 years of fighting the Deadites, some form or another cult icon Bruce Campbell has announced that the recently aired series finale
Starting point is 00:23:03 of stars Ash versus Evil Dead is his own swan song for the character of Ashley Joanna Ash Williams. Since 1981's the Evil Dead, Campbell has been leading a one-man crusade as a one-liner spawning fighter of demon-possessed humans or dead heights in the Evil Dead franchise. through two sequels, a few video games, and previously mentioned TV series, Ash has gone through many trials and tribulations over the course of a few decades. He's one of the more unique horror protagonists out there. Unlike Slasher, Final Girls like Laurie Strode or John Carpenter's usual Kurt Russell lead macho man. Ash is more grounded human character, which, I mean, he is struggling.
Starting point is 00:23:55 up coward, a scared of cat hiding behind his smooth stick and sandsaw hand. You can find a full article at marianithomas dot wordpress.com.
Starting point is 00:24:08 Awesome. Yeah, it's Thomas Mariani. He was on our March Madness show this year. So, thanks for joining us, Thomas. And as far as I know, they're still running decades
Starting point is 00:24:20 of horror, Brian, is that you're understanding the only show that's on hiatus for a little bit right now. is horror news radio? I believe so. I know they just,
Starting point is 00:24:29 I don't know if I just downloaded it late. I know that they just, on the main show, they just did the finale for Ash versus Evil Dead, so. Okay, cool. And speaking of which, I think you, you've got an announcement to make on maybe a retrospective or something.
Starting point is 00:24:49 Yes. When we, we are going to be reviewing Deadpool 2 here in a couple weeks, and we also are going to do Ash versus Evil Dead and our thoughts on the final season as well as the show overall. Awesome. So I'm going to definitely take this chance to go back and rewatch all of them from the beginning then. Oh, absolutely. Okay, moving on, regarding Demons 2, Kevin Nez says not as good as the first, but still cool.
Starting point is 00:25:20 Joey Colombo says he agreed with Kevin. it's not bad or sucky, but compared to the original, it's not as badass. Good description. Darren Wilson, did Lance just say he hasn't watched Holliston? Oh man, so many horror icon cameos. I follow Dee Snyder who plays Adam and Joe's boss Lance Rocket and O'Darius from Guar, Adam's imaginary friend, into a room at Horror Hound and it ended up being a table read
Starting point is 00:25:57 with the cast. Cool. Got to find a way to watch that. You guys ever seen it? No. I haven't. I haven't, but I might give it a shot. Hopefully it's better than Victor Crowley.
Starting point is 00:26:15 Regarding sci-fi, dropping tremors, Eric King, thus leaving more funds for Bird of Mick 5 and Sharknato 12. Jesus. Christy Wokes said that original Trimmers TV show was hilarious. I don't remember an original Trimmers show.
Starting point is 00:26:40 Do you? I don't. I think it was there, but it was pretty brief. I don't remember watching it, but it seems like I remember vaguely there being something about it. Yeah, I think it got canceled real quick. Yeah. They're just not having much, much luck, are they? Yeah, they release set photos from the pilot.
Starting point is 00:26:59 It looked like it was going to be good. It's like, like I was saying in one of my comments about it is maybe it was just too good for sci-fi. It might have, man. What I was thinking was maybe they looked at what the cost of the show was going to be. And, you know, sci-fi doesn't really do too many big budget. Right. Except for Battlestar Galactica in The Expans. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:28 I just think, I don't know, maybe Tramor the series was just not, sci-fi wasn't a right place for it. So, following up on some comments we made on the 100th episode, I said, congratulations on episode 100. Oh, thank you. All right, thanks.
Starting point is 00:27:47 Absolutely. What a long, strange trip it's been, right? Art Colley, congratulations, guys, on the 100th episode. All right, Art. Stephen Moblad says, Tom Holland is the one
Starting point is 00:28:04 as one of the cast of Venom and Woody Harrelson is supposed to be carnage. That sounds like a terrible cast. Yeah, the more and more I hear about this movie, I don't want to watch it. Oh, please tell me we're not going to watch it for the show. It sounds like Phillips, like,
Starting point is 00:28:23 hype for this movie. Oh, fuck. You know, the CGI looks decent, but that's about as far as it goes. It's like, I agree. I don't know how you can do it.
Starting point is 00:28:37 Darren Wilson, Nosforatu, is pronounced like Nosferatu. Oh, okay. So, Don and Ellie finally finished this off. Again,
Starting point is 00:28:50 congrats on the accomplishment. Like I said, It's been fun to hear some part of this journey, and I do truly appreciate the shows we've done. Some of the previous comments made mention of what I wanted to bring up, the Nosferatu slash Nosferatu thing, like Placet, etc. But great, great show. And I agreed with some of the list, but maybe ranking is a different matter, so I'm not too off with our choices. Again, I'd like to have listen, but in different order. Overall, Kevin, I truly appreciate the shout-out.
Starting point is 00:29:26 I'm a huge Asian horror fan and love to explore every aspect of the seed and not just what comes out of the expected places. So diving deep into the history of the genre, which in some places is going on 100 years of moviemaking, actually, has such a rich vein of films to explore that it's hard not to want to go down to rabbit hole and discovered some of these undiscovered gems that lurking deep in many places. I have a lot of writing around on the subject if you're interested. I'll be more than happy to link you to some of it, and it's just the tip of the iceberg when it comes to some of the stuff found on those films.
Starting point is 00:30:08 And then regarding the Australian cinema showing, the hereditary trailer before Peter Rabbit, Samantha Bean. Well, that's one way to reach a broader. reach broader audiences. And, you know, scars some kids. Well, they've seen the trailer on TV, but movie trailers tend to be longer and much more intense and involved
Starting point is 00:30:32 because of the audience that's there. Obviously, the trailer is going to be geared for a rated R or heavy PG-13 crowd. Pretty sure there were some adults that were taken aback too. My grandmother would not, would definitely not enjoy it. Darren Wilson says,
Starting point is 00:30:53 ha-ha, I was coming to post a different article about the same thing. Peter Rabbit. Yep. And that's the feedback for this week. So thanks to everyone who reaches out to us. We love your feedback and ideas. You can always reach us at the horror returns at gmail.com. And also don't forget, we're still running the contest. So be sure to give us a five
Starting point is 00:31:17 star rating on iTunes. Yeah. Why don't you refresh them what that contest is? Yeah, Brian. What are we doing, man? I'm giving out T-shirts, beer coosies. Come, give us, rate us, review us on iTunes, five stars, please. Most preferably.
Starting point is 00:31:35 Yeah. We still got a mystery person out there that gave us five stars, but didn't leave a name. Oh, they still haven't came with their name? No. Oh. And it was right after we announced the contest. So they're fair game. Well, get that name in so you can get a t-shirt or a beer cozy.
Starting point is 00:31:53 Yeah, and I know we gave out at least five cards this weekend, so that's five new listeners should be right there. You know what? I noticed after we back from Frightmare that we picked up at least a couple people that have gone back and started picking up quite a bit of our back catalog. So we really appreciate that. I mean, we wouldn't be here if it wasn't for you guys. So, you know, no pressure. If you want to take a little time and leave a review, we would love to send you guys something for free.
Starting point is 00:32:25 And if you don't, hey, that's okay too. You know, as long as you listen and enjoy the show, that's kind of what we're here for. So it's all good. Yep. So you boys ready to move on to some featured attractions? Let's do it. Sounds good to me.
Starting point is 00:32:42 Perfect host. A lot of people may not have seen this. it is available on Netflix. Director was Nick Tomne, also known for an upcoming movie called Yesterday Now. I have no idea what that would be.
Starting point is 00:32:59 The writers of this were Nick Tomne along with someone named Krishna Jones. The film only had a budget of $500,000. The tattoo on John's hand contains three Hebrew letters,
Starting point is 00:33:16 which are the initials for Ura, Riva, Yariva, which is a Kabbala term that means absolute certainty and is supposed to enhance confidence and belief. And final piece of trivia is this was filmed in 17 days.
Starting point is 00:33:34 So, Pat, you're our guest, man. You want to go first? Sure, I'll go first. Are the cops coming to get you or what, man? Sounds like it, doesn't it? Must be here for my roommate. I guess so. But,
Starting point is 00:33:52 now, this was an interesting movie. I wasn't sure. I really kind of expected it to be horrible just because that's sometimes what you get with movies on Netflix, but I actually enjoyed it. I thought it was halfway decent.
Starting point is 00:34:10 And I thought David Hyde Pierce, of course, not that he's ever done a bad job, but he definitely carried the film. And it was slightly different than what I expected. But overall, I enjoyed it. I think it kept my interest. So that being said, it wasn't the best movie overall, but knowing it was only filmed in 17 days,
Starting point is 00:34:35 I was like, wow, because it doesn't look like it was filmed in 17 days. So I thought it was pretty decent overall. Brian? Yeah, now that I'm hearing the trivia about the budget and how many days it took. And I'm kind of looking at it with a different perspective. Because when it started, I was just kind of like, oh, shit. It's going to be one of those super bad low budget movies. And then the guy from the Lethal Weapon TV series shows up as the main character.
Starting point is 00:35:07 Right. And I was just like, oh, my gosh. But then when we actually get into the house and get things going, it was it was not what i expected to be i thought it was just going to be a typical you just walked into the wrong house and the guy's going to get his ass kick but no um what what was what is what is the guy's name uh david hi david yeah he really did carry this movie um he was fucking weird as shit i mean everything from the i mean you you already knew from that one scene when he's like let me get you a washcloth and you thought he
Starting point is 00:35:45 He was going to bring it for his foot. No, he just wanted to clean up the blood off the floor because it was bothering him. Right. And I was like, this guy's fucking weird with his weird. You're bleeding on my floor. And then you get the weird pictures on the mantle or whatever where he's got his arm around nobody. Right. And I'm just like, yeah, you just went into the wrong fucking house.
Starting point is 00:36:09 Right. And I think he really, he really. save the movie from me, because I, this was, this was, I didn't even think I was going to finish it, but it turned out to be decent. Okay. And are, are we spoiling this at all, or? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:27 Full spoiler on this one is a 2010 movie. The whole thing, when, when he's out by the trash and the stoats cut and then he find out it's just makeup. Like, he just took the time to, I thought that was so, I was like, what the
Starting point is 00:36:43 fuck? Okay, I have a question. Did he kill? Okay, so did he really kill anybody or? That's what I was trying to figure out. You know, because I, it's like, obviously the people in his head are just in his head. But, you know, that's what I was trying to figure out. I was like, were these ever real people at one point in time or what? And, you know, and I have to wonder if maybe one of them was and maybe that's what caused him to go nuts in the first place or something happened.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Yeah, because he brought up the one, the one. one girl or whatever. Right. And he seemed to get really agitated. But I was really, after the, he was found in the trash, I was really confused. I was like, so did he actually kill anybody
Starting point is 00:37:28 or is he that crazy? Yeah, I actually had to back it up and watch it again. I was like, wait a minute, wasn't his throat cut? Yeah, yeah. It was just so weird. I was like, okay, that's different. And I thought the one scene was fucking hilarious.
Starting point is 00:37:47 Him fucking the imaginary person in the bathroom. Oh, yeah. The table dance was kind of funny too. Yeah. The only thing I really didn't like, though, because it made no sense to me, was
Starting point is 00:38:00 how he took the money. Because I don't know. It just kind of seemed like how crazy he was and the way he played the character. Like, that wasn't a real motivation. Money wasn't... I wouldn't think that would have been the first thing on his mind. right? Yeah, so I don't know. It was kind of weird.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah. I really enjoyed the first the first 15 minutes or so. I thought that I really don't care too much for this actor, Claim Crawford, the one that's in. You said he's in, which TV show now, Brian? Lethal Weapon. That's right. He's supposed to be the, yeah, he's not. Let's just say. I would admit, I kind of like that show, because it really needs to be something else other than lethal weapon. But he is not Mel Gibson.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Well, I really started disliking him because of a role he played. And I guess that's showing that he's a pretty decent actor because I really disliked him because he played a complete fucking ass hat. He was the brother of a convict that got set free because they did a DNA test, which proved that he didn't do the murder. movie TV show called Rectify. Have you guys ever seen that? No.
Starting point is 00:39:18 I have not. He plays the guy's brother and he's just a fucking asshole. And I haven't seen the other show, but I thought he did a pretty good job there at the beginning where he was, you know, trying to pull off the robbery and then ended up like you guys said in the wrong house. But yeah, after that, after that to me, once, once David, I know this is going to be. unpopular, but once David Hyde Pierce got involved, to me, the movie should have been called the perfect
Starting point is 00:39:53 mess. Because there were more unnecessary plot twist in this piece of shit. If they had just kept it a simple, you know, yeah, the guy stumbles into the wrong house and it's a crazy lunatic that kind of locks them up and
Starting point is 00:40:09 has imaginary friends and stuff like that, but when they pull out the angle of being a cop and all that garbage. I mean, come on, man. How top heavy is this supposed to get here? You know what I mean? I just thought they tried to, they just tried to cram too many plot twist in there.
Starting point is 00:40:27 And then the one with the girl, which I understand that and why they did that. And that was kind of the, you know, the impetus for him being set up for that robbery job and everything. And it kind of had, something like that had to be there. But I don't know, in my opinion, if they had just kept it a guy breaking into the wrong house
Starting point is 00:40:46 and just being kind of like mentally tortured by this lunatic the whole time, I would have enjoyed the movie a lot more. I can see that. Just my opinion, you know. But you guys both liked Hyde Pierce's acting, right?
Starting point is 00:41:02 Most people said he did, I know I'm way in the minority on not caring for his character that much in this. Yeah, I think he just, he brought the right, for me, the right amount of crazy. Right. Exactly.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Right. Yeah. I agree. I mean, he started out great, like you said with a part with the blood and all that. But I don't know. He just went to a little. When we found out who he really was, that it lost me, man. It was like, come on, dude.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Yeah. I kind of agree with you. The whole cop angle probably could have been left out. But if he would have played this, like, just a straight, I'm just going to kidnap you and beat you up. this would have been like many other movies in this kind of, I guess, subgenre of horror, this home invasion type. But like I said, I think the right amount of crazy was just enough.
Starting point is 00:41:53 But I can see where you feel like the cop angle just kind of threw it off. Yeah. Yeah. And I almost wonder if they threw the cop angle and they're just so they had some way of tidying up the ending with a nice little bow. And making the movie an hour and a half? Instead of... You're right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Because it just seemed awful convenient, you know, that all that happens, so... Seemed that way. Seemed a little far-fetched to me, but, you know, what are you going to do? Yeah. $500,000. They didn't have that extra $100,000 that I get too much into the story, so... Yeah. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:42:35 And you figure Hyde Pierce probably took half of that, so... Mm-hmm. You think? He may have worked for scale just to be in the movie or something, you know? Yeah, it's hard to tell him. It's possible. Maybe Nick or one of these guys is his buddy or something. I don't know. It'd be. Yeah, I think this Clean Crawford guy, I'm definitely going to say he's a pretty good actor,
Starting point is 00:43:03 because if he did, you know, make me hate him as much as I did in the one show. And plus he was kind of a nuanced character. If you guys ever get a chance, you probably should check out Rectify. I think it was only like three seasons. Okay. I'm not sure where you could find it. It was on the Sundance Channel. And I think they showed reruns on AMC.
Starting point is 00:43:23 So it's got to be out there somewhere. But it was pretty nuanced. I mean, he started out, you started out really hating him, and then you kind of found some of his motivations toward the end. So, yeah, I mean, I guess this really was just kind of like a two-man show, really, at the end of the day, wasn't it? pretty much you know and I would have been happier
Starting point is 00:43:43 if they just kind of kept it that sort of like a you know like like a a bottle a bottle up you know like they talk about certain TV shows have like a bottle episode where everything's contained in just that one episode and there's no
Starting point is 00:43:58 bleed over and it all takes place in one area I think the movie would have worked better as that but again just you know just my opinion I think it just went a little too crazy there you guys ready you guys ready for scores or anything else you say sure yeah let's move on that for me i'm going to give this a five and a half
Starting point is 00:44:20 10 i mean it was just a little more good than bad um you know it was watchable um for the most part i mean it's not stellar but it's good i think it's you know entertaining enough to watch so five and a half i think is where it fits for me Yeah, I'm right there with you. I'm going to give it a five. It's decent. It's watchable. It's, hey, it's on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:44:48 So, check it out. Yeah, and to that point, I'm going to say there's a shitlet of other stuff also on Netflix. I give it a three. And I think I'm being a little bit generous. I will give it a three. There were some decent acting. Like I said, if they had just kept it, to what it started out as in the first act.
Starting point is 00:45:11 I think I would have enjoyed it a lot more. But anyway, folks, it's on Netflix. So, as the guys say, it's free. If you got Netflix, anyway. All right, well, Bad Samaritan, directed by Dean Depp... Oh, shit. Oh, no. Dean Devlin.
Starting point is 00:45:29 What other movie have we seen recently for the show, Brian, that he directed? The amazing. Geostorm. Oh, that does not bode well. That does not bode well. Writer Brandon Boyce, also known for Wicker Park. You guys ever seen that one?
Starting point is 00:45:54 It sounds really familiar. It's kind of an older movie. Isn't it like late 90s or early 2000s? I think Josh Hartnett is in it? Yeah. Yeah, I think I remember that. Kind of one of those, more of a suspense, suspense type movie. Like somebody's cheating on somebody or something like?
Starting point is 00:46:18 No, I think it's like his girlfriend disappears. Okay, I'm like that. And he's trying to find out who did it or something like that and it has something to do with Wicker Park or something. I can't remember for sure, but I think that's what the premise of the movie was. Well, he also wrote the screenplay for a pretty damn good, Stephen King adaptation called Apt Pupil. You guys seen that one?
Starting point is 00:46:43 Yeah, with Gander, Gando, whatever is named, Magneto. Yeah, he played the Nazi war criminal, right? Yeah. That's a pretty good movie. Very good movie. So principal photography on this film began early 2017
Starting point is 00:47:04 in Portland, Oregon. Gee, you couldn't tell from as many times as they mentioned Oregon in the movie. I know. Goodness. I was like, we get it. And this was based on a 2013 script, originally titled No Good Deed. I think I like Bad Samaritan better. And I think there is already a movie called No Good Deed. Isn't there? Am I thinking of it? Isn't it like a Tyler Perry movie or something?
Starting point is 00:47:32 Medea 6 or something like. Booth 3, maybe? Oh, gosh. That is my nightmare. Well, guess what, Brian? Get ready. If there was, I would have to watch. My youngest thought I think those movies are hilarious. Okay, good. So you couldn't blame just me on that one. Oh, no, she's mad at you. She's still,
Starting point is 00:47:58 she keeps asking me, how could we never did that episode? And I was like, well, it's too late now. We're into the next year now. So we got to do something for the kids, man. Yeah. All of our episodes can't be explicit language, right? You can always re-watch it. You can always re-watch it Halloween to review it then.
Starting point is 00:48:18 Yeah, Lance, you can re-watch it. Bill you guys in? Yeah. All right, yeah, but we're talking about Bad Samaritan. So, Pat, our esteemed guest, man, Bad Samaritan. You checked it out, right? I did. I saw it this afternoon.
Starting point is 00:48:36 And I got to say, um, I wasn't really sure what to expect from this movie because I hadn't really heard much about it, but I enjoyed it. It was actually fairly entertaining. It was very story-driven, which I thought was great. You know, and now I'm not 100% sure, but was the same actor, also the bad guy in the first season of Jessica Jones. Yeah, that's what I thought. He was also the 10th Doctor Who. Yeah. He plays a great villain. I'll give him that. He does crazy real well.
Starting point is 00:49:14 It almost felt like the Purple Man was back, you know, after that lackluster season two of Jessica Jones. Yeah, David. Go ahead. I was saying, I've yet to finish that. David Tennant, he just has a very creepy look to him. Yeah, for sure. But I enjoyed it. I think it was, I was, actually pretty sensible in places so I really like that
Starting point is 00:49:43 I was like a lot more movie than what I expected it to be for sure right did you enjoy it Brian for the most part I did there were at times where I felt the movie was a little uneven right because I felt like
Starting point is 00:49:58 at one minute the movie was going to be super dark and kind of twisted and then near the end I kind of felt like it was a little more lighthearted kind of action thriller type. But overall, like the first movie we reviewed, David Tennant really was the star of this movie
Starting point is 00:50:20 because he just, to me, he just, he looks creepy as fuck. His weird accent he had in this movie, his American, I guess that's his American accent was, it was kind of added to the weird creepiness. Sure. Right. I didn't like the lead guy. I could take it a deep.
Starting point is 00:50:40 Oh, you didn't like the kid too much. Yeah. No, he was kind of generic to me. Okay. Well. And for the most part, I did like the story. There was at times when we'll get into spoilers, but it was, I don't know, it was just kind of hard for me to go with some of the things that was happening.
Starting point is 00:50:58 So, but overall, I was surprised. I went in not really expecting much. And I got a little bit out of it that I wasn't expecting. Yeah. Yeah, I didn't know what to expect. I really wasn't. I almost didn't get to see this movie because I have a lot of catch up to do at work since I wasn't there Friday. And like I said, my daughter's graduating college this upcoming Friday, so I absolutely positively have to leave work early this Friday.
Starting point is 00:51:34 so I get up to my building today and the power is out you can't get into our office can't get under the computer or anything so basically they said at 10 o'clock if power's still out we're calling it everybody go home well 10 o'clock came and I guess I was going to get to see the movie today
Starting point is 00:51:55 after all as it turns out so I'm super glad I did guys I really enjoyed this movie this is not what I was expecting I thought this was going to be just a just kind of a low-key my little granddaughter's in here. My wife
Starting point is 00:52:13 brought her in and she's just holding my hand, so I'm in hog heaven right now. How are you doing, sweetie? A big old smile. Well, I didn't mean to bother you. Sorry. But yeah, this was
Starting point is 00:52:29 a lot of fun at the movie now. I will say, this, there were several glaring plot holes. It was definitely not a perfectly written script in any way form or fiction. And we'll get into a lot of that in spoilers. Like, for example, if he had something the whole time, why didn't he use that to show the police early on rather than, you know, use his brother's crappy computer to enhance it or whatever? Kind of, kind of silly there. And, you know, just a couple of the things that were motivating him did. I, I'm
Starting point is 00:53:03 with you guys, I thought that the main character Dane Dahan would have done so much better, Pat. Oh my gosh. He probably would have made it horrible. But, no,
Starting point is 00:53:16 David Tennant absolutely stole this movie, man. I have really enjoyed watching. I don't think I've seen him in anything that I haven't enjoyed watching him in. You guys talked about how great he was and Jessica Jones. He's been
Starting point is 00:53:33 in several, and I mean several BBC shows. This dude is probably one of the hardest working UK actors out there. But when I saw him in, did you guys check out the Fright Night remake
Starting point is 00:53:49 that he was in? Yes. He basically played Chris Angel. He was phenomenal in that movie. But this guy's a great actor. Boy, you talk about he had me believing
Starting point is 00:54:05 that he was, that he was everything that he was acting to be in this movie. I got to kind of wonder if this guy's not a little bit out there, really. I mean, he was just almost too, almost too believable in this role.
Starting point is 00:54:20 Yeah, he's starting, he's starting to be like him and Ben Mendelsohn. Like, when I hear they're playing a villain, I get excited for that role because they, they really play that role well. Oh, very much so.
Starting point is 00:54:38 Very much so. They should have cast him as carnage. Oh, as anything. But I will say this. I was not incredibly excited to see this movie. And despite the few little plot holes and obvious things that they overlooked, and why would he do this? Because this would create this problem or whatever.
Starting point is 00:55:02 man, it was a lot of fun. I had a really great time watching this movie, and it was an hour and 50 minutes, and I swear it felt like it was an hour to me. It went by that fast. And I have to say, I was very pleasantly surprised. You guys ready for scores? Yeah, I guess so.
Starting point is 00:55:24 Sure, yeah. It's hard. The only other thing I will say to those who are going to, you know, pause it and come back later, I want our listeners to tell me if they, also picked up quite a bit of sort of an Alfred Hitchcock vibe
Starting point is 00:55:40 in a lot of the scenes because there were some parts that really reminded me of like a rear window and some other some other Hitchcock films so I really I'm going to have to give this director
Starting point is 00:55:51 another shot I'm going to give my pass on Geostorm after this one never thought I'd say that but all right scores scores for me I'll definitely say it was better than Geostorm. I'm going to give this a seven.
Starting point is 00:56:09 That's nice. For me, for me, I enjoyed it. I mean, there was some pot holes and things like that, but overall, it was a fun ride. It was a much better film than what I was expecting going in. And just like you said, I mean, David Tennant really stole the show and made it worth watching. So I think that's really my thoughts on it.
Starting point is 00:56:31 I mean, there's a lot of stuff to talk about spoiler-wise, but yeah, it was good. I liked it. I'm going to go six and a half. Not quite seven. I really, really enjoyed David Tennant. I also did not expect much out of it and really, really had a lot more fun than I thought I was going to.
Starting point is 00:56:55 There was just some things that I just, it wasn't working for me, so I'm going to have to go six and a half. Yeah, definitely an imperfect script. Definitely not the best or most talented people around Tenet. But yeah, Tenon alone and the amount of fun that I had watching this movie causes me to give it, I think maybe my first ever one-quarter score. I give it 7.25, actually. Because I have to give it a little bit better than seven,
Starting point is 00:57:24 but I can't justify seven and a half due to some of the silly shit. But strong 7.25. So, in other words, we all do recommend the movie. Yep. Absolutely. All right. Spoiler time? Yep.
Starting point is 00:57:38 All right. Who's going first? This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.
Starting point is 00:57:55 Okay. I just have to point out, I hate when they fucking do this in movies, how when the killer or whoever is, basically going to change his look up to disguise himself. All this guy did was put a fucking perm in his hair. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:13 And it drove me fucking crazy. I get it. I get it. Yeah. And the main, I just, I couldn't, I don't know, he just wasn't working for me. Everything he was doing to help this girl, I was just like, I don't fucking believe you either. why is the FBI and everybody but just like that was another thing
Starting point is 00:58:35 that I thought was kind of a repeat from other movies there's always that one FBI agent that's been working the case for years oh yeah right so those little beats right there just kind of it was basically
Starting point is 00:58:50 things I've seen in other movies done you know over and over again right got a little far-fetched in spots didn't it yeah and for me it was some of the stuff where you know you were talking about where it kind of would switch gears
Starting point is 00:59:06 like you know when he when he's in the house and he runs into like the kill room and he sees all those knives and stuff hanging there and all that stuff and all that stuff. And then it's like magically that's all gone just like yeah yeah come on
Starting point is 00:59:21 at first at first I thought he had a I thought he had like a house that was split in two and one side was exactly like the other, but the clean side. Kind of like amateur, right, Brian? I mean, that's what I thought at first.
Starting point is 00:59:37 It's like, how the hell did he do it? I mean, you know, there's no way he could have had all that. Like, everything just all of a sudden spotless, you know. Yeah. It just seemed like it was like not near enough time had passed for that to have happened. Yeah, that's that tone change I was talking about because you see his little secret kill room and he's got fucking chainsaws and all kinds of stuff in there. Right.
Starting point is 00:59:59 And then later... As I said, they never really touch upon any of that. They never, other than you see it, that's it. Yeah. And then... And then you get the scene right after that where the cops there, and he notices that one of his tools is missing and something's out of place, and he looks super agitated, that shit's out of place.
Starting point is 01:00:18 Right. And then later we get a scene of the main guy driving his Maserati out of an exploding house, and I'm like, are we... Okay, we're a fucking action movie now. It just was kind of just all over the place. A little uneven. A little uneven, huh? Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
Starting point is 01:00:40 I just wanted it to be super dark. I mean, the movie starts with him as a kid killing fucking horses. It had plenty of fucking harness in it, Brian. I mean, he's whipping and shooting a horse. I'm like, okay, this is where we're going. Okay. And then at the end, I thought at the end, the fight scene was a, little ridiculous.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Because that guy should have been fucking dead. The main actor. Oh, my God. David, he beat him. Yeah, repeatedly. He did the department do a job on him, huh? He beat him in the head repeatedly
Starting point is 01:01:14 with that shovel. And then he just has a swollen eye. I'm like, uh, I mean, I get it for the movie. He, somebody, I did like the girl had to basically save him, though. Yeah. Because my theater kind of cheered with the scene where she,
Starting point is 01:01:30 was like, she hit him with the shovel, and then she was like, that's how you fucking save somebody. Right. Oh, I love that. I love that line. I did enjoy that. Yeah, and they did kind of leave some of the plot lines open, like the whole him and his girlfriend. That never really got resolved. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:45 I wish they'd resolved that. They, yeah, so they did leave some holes. There wasn't an after-credit scene, was there, that I missed? No. No. Okay. I got up and left. So we don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:58 But David Tennett was, at times, he was. brutal like you brought up the girlfriend, he beat the shit out of her. Yeah. Yeah. And that kind of, I'm not going to lie, it kind of made me jump when he first popped out of nowhere and grabbed her. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:02:13 And that scene when he's calling in to the restaurant owner telling him about how his house got robbed and I thought he was brilliant and he had to see his face and how he was just all flipping out over the phone. I just thought that little dialogue was pretty great because he sounded convincing.
Starting point is 01:02:30 like, you know, like he was some crazy homeowner guy freaking out over his house being robbed. Yeah, I'm definitely with Brian on the Maserati thing. It's like if he's so just so that everything must be in its place, he never would have left that there for that kid to drive to drive on the man. Right. You know.
Starting point is 01:02:53 Yeah, and he had all that tech stuff. They never really explained any of like, you know. Yeah, he had like, Like spy gadgets and stuff. Right. And that would have been the one thing that I know it was already an hour and 50 minutes, but it would have been nice to have seen a little bit of character development on his end, you know, about who he was or maybe some background on him a little bit.
Starting point is 01:03:19 But, you know, understandably, I know they, you know, where they went with the movie and stuff. But I think you could have probably cut out some of the action sequences, as Brian puts it, maybe give us a little more character. references to this guy or something said. Yeah, and this might sound weird, but he was basically breaking these people, like horses. I kind of felt like he didn't, maybe he should have treated him more like animals than, I don't know. They started to become like his little slave servants, kind of, just be obedient.
Starting point is 01:03:52 We didn't see, we didn't really see a whole lot of him doing any of that. Yeah. You know, other than her a few times. but we never see a whole lot of him being, you know, doing anything other than, you know, doing like, you know, get in a cage or whatever. He didn't see him doing anything really severe beating him or mistreating him other than those things, you know? Yeah, because I thought it was going to get rid, because if you look at the background, you see, like, you know, a horse brush and I thought he was going to, like, brush her hair like she was a horse and just, you know, super weird stuff. Well, and all the, all the. Brian. You're right.
Starting point is 01:04:30 All the bodies that were in the pit when she's trying to get out. And we didn't get any kind of anything, you know, on how, you know, those people probably had to die some sort of horrible death and we never saw anything. Yeah. I mean, in its defense, guys, it was, it was already an hour and 50 minutes. It was 20 minutes longer than a typical horror movie anyway, you know? Yeah, they could have did some, I mean, maybe a scene with the FBI agent. explaining something that she, you know, because I don't know, just, again, going back to like the little tracking device, that is some high-tech stuff that he just has a case that he
Starting point is 01:05:13 just pulls out and he's got passports and IDs. I mean, I know he's a trust fund guy. Sure. But it just kind of seemed like he was something else. Yeah. In the way, there was a lot missing. I kept expecting a lot more to happen too, just like you guys. yeah it was definitely
Starting point is 01:05:32 I mean he definitely made the movie I mean potholes aside and everything it was still a good movie and just
Starting point is 01:05:40 but I agree with Brian on some of those things it would have been nice to I think they could have just tweaked a little a couple all it would have taken was an added scene
Starting point is 01:05:47 here and there nothing you know too extensive you could have added maybe five minutes worth of film time and probably gotten a lot of that stuff
Starting point is 01:05:56 explained you know yeah I'm looking on Wikipedia. Apparently, his character is supposed to be a billionaire. Yeah? Yeah, he said that at one point in the movie. He said, you have no idea how much money I have. And the FBI agents were talking about, well, you know, he was a billionaire baby,
Starting point is 01:06:16 trust fund baby. Okay, I missed that part. So when the kid said, you're not going to get away with this or something like that toward the end, he said, you have no idea how much money I have, you know. So it also had some pretty neat little things to say about class struggle and stuff like that, too. Right. That was a little clever. But yeah, I mean, they could have, I kept wanting more, you know.
Starting point is 01:06:40 I kept wanting more. I wanted more of his backstory. And like you guys were saying, when he opened the drawer and the passport and all was in there, it's like, are we going to see he's like a super super spy or something like that or what, you know? He's got an escape plan there ready for any eventuality, you know? Yeah. Right, definitely. I mean, he was definitely prepared. I mean, that little cabin was quite the little bunker he had built up. No doubt. No doubt. All right. So we probably said enough about this one you guys think, right? Yeah, I think so. I think so. Yeah, so I would say my final thoughts on this one is pleasantly surprised. What would you guys say?
Starting point is 01:07:24 Absolutely. Not a lot of, I guess, promotion for this movie. Not at all. Maybe that justice, because you just kind of went in not knowing what to expect. Right. David Ten, it's awesome.
Starting point is 01:07:41 How are you going to compete against second week of the Avengers or whatever, right? Yep. Fastest movie to gross a billion dollars. Ever, huh? Yep, and I think it's already at 1.3 billion already. Wow.
Starting point is 01:07:57 Yep. All right. We'll make this kind of a short one, and, you know, we're certainly going to be back next week. And either between now and then or just after that, we'll have a special episode. We still need to do our Walking Dead retrospective, and we still need to do all of our Frightmare coverage. So there's plenty of stuff coming. We are trying to keep these shows. We were talking about this before we recorded.
Starting point is 01:08:24 We are trying to keep them all at least under an hour and a half per show. and sometimes we're going to try to go with just like an hour. But don't worry, because we'll be bringing you guys some more bonus episodes as we always have and stuff like that. Yeah, I think definitely some more like TV show season wrap-ups and stuff like that. Oh, absolutely. Man, that's a great idea because a lot of the TV shows out are better than several of the movies that we've been watching lately, wouldn't you say?
Starting point is 01:08:55 Yep. And I'm all caught up with Walking Dead and me and the whole. wife are starting Fear of the Walking Dead now, so we'll be caught up with that here soon. Well, you know what? There's a lot of haters out there, but I'm still enjoying both series, so
Starting point is 01:09:10 hey, if you're watching it and you're enjoying it, I mean, my God, dude, if think about it, if 12 years ago somebody had told you, hey, there's going to be two zombie TV shows, regular TV shows on, I would have been pissing my pants with excitement, you know?
Starting point is 01:09:27 There's actually three. I don't count that. Three or four. C nation. And don't forget I zombie. Oh. I kind of like that one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:41 A lot of people tell me it's okay. Give it a try. It's different. It's different. Right. Well, Pat, thanks for joining this dude and filling in while Phillips kids are over there hitting inside the park home runs all night. Anything else you want to leave?
Starting point is 01:09:58 leave us on, dude, before we wrap it up? Well, I just wanted to say, thanks for having me on the show. It was been involved in Crazy weekend. Brian, we hope to catch you next year. Definitely.
Starting point is 01:10:16 But other than that, I just want to say thanks again for having me. Thanks for coming on. Yeah, hope you're able to get back next week so you can read the feedback. Yeah. I'm sure I'm sure we'll have more again.
Starting point is 01:10:31 I actually just had a couple of things pop up in Podbean that we just didn't have time to read tonight. So I guess we got a couple of new listeners. So I do see some new comments on here. Excellent. And we'll probably have a review from Samantha Bean about the perfect host. Nice. Cool. Maybe she'll like you better than I did.
Starting point is 01:10:56 All right. Well, guys, be sure to, or as always, we want to thank you all for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. You guys know we want to hear your feedback. You can reach us at the Horror Returns at Gmail or leave an iTunes review. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Podbean, probably start looking at some new ways to reach out too because social media is changing every day. We definitely learned that at Frightmare because everyone that we talked to, why did you answer us on Facebook? We wanted to try to get an interview set up. Facebook,
Starting point is 01:11:29 well, you should have fucking Twittered me, man. So we may have some interviews coming up yet, guys. All right. Frightmare. And then don't forget, we've got, we'll be going to Comic Paloosa in three weeks as well, as we always do. So next week, it's going to be the highly anticipated movie Revenge,
Starting point is 01:11:50 which I believe, Brian, is a Shudder original. Yeah, Shudder exclusive. Cool. And then we're going to do I spit on your grave, and we haven't decided yet if it's going to be the original or the remake or both. But definitely female empowerment week next week. And other than that, Pat, until the horror returns again, good night.

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