The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #104: The Ice Pirates (1984) & Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018) (Reupload)
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I'm Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Philip.
And as promised, it's going to be possibly a Star Wars.
Showdown this week with our good friends Kevin and Patrick.
And these two guys seem to represent polar opposites in the battle over the last Jedi.
You underestimate the power of the dark side.
So what do you represent, Patrick, the dark side or the light side?
You hate it.
Well, the last Jedi, yeah, I didn't care for.
But there's a lot of reasons that, I mean, the thing is with that movie,
that movie is it
it's just such a disappointment on so many levels
to me and a lot of it has to do with the fact that
I feel like Disney lied to us
and told us we were going to
well they said that we were going to get new movies and
I didn't really think that was a new movie.
Alright.
I've seen that movie before.
Here we go.
Mez, was it
somewhere on your top 1000 list
of the year, at least for last year?
It was number one.
Yes.
Tell us why, man.
What made it a great film?
Preach it, brother.
You tell him.
It was Star Wars, man.
Yeah, there was a ton of problems I had with it, but it was still badass, down with the dark side.
And I don't know, man.
I mean, that's a whole other show again, but I don't want to repeat on myself without him.
Talked about it over and over and over.
It makes sense that it was a.
his favorite movie last year because it was his favorite movie 35, 40 years ago, too.
Same movies.
Oh, man.
Ouch.
I think they're laying puzzle pieces down.
It'll be a classic one day.
We'll all come back to this moment and remember.
I have faith.
You ready to eat your words, Patrick, one day?
I don't see it happening, but okay.
All right.
I think what they're doing, hold on, I think what they're doing now with these
supposedly one-off movies
is they're just adding more to the puzzle
because after this one we're going to talk about
later on there's a lot of
stuff in it that tied into
the previous movies we've seen
the prequels as well as the past
and if you were a part of
Clone Wars and rebels
watching the cartoons or animated ones
computer animated ones
there was a ton of stuff
and that but we'll get to that later on yeah i'm excited about that and and to clear up to you i actually
look forward to the one-offs more than i do the can't the the the trilogy stories yeah because to me
those are they those are the ones that i feel like they can have a little more creative license with
that's true and do because we don't you know we don't have expectations for them
like you would like you know with the trilogy movies to me i i had the expectations of those
and they fell away short of anywhere to me.
I really feel like they really miss the boat on what they could have done
with getting the original cast back together.
And I guess that's been my biggest disappointment with the, like,
your Force Awakens and Last Jedi's.
I feel like you had a grand opportunity.
You got the original cast back together.
Right.
And you just sort of shit the bed.
Nez?
Were they shit in the bed, Nez?
Some parts.
Maybe not a full shit.
Maybe it's a couple little speckles, but...
Yeah.
What they do with the next one?
It's a turn. It's a turn.
Even if it's got a couple pieces of corn in it, it's still a turn.
I feel like we have to withhold our judgment a little,
even though we obviously haven't, until the next movie comes out.
nine, I feel like he's going to bring it together
and we're going to go, oh,
I get it.
Maybe.
Don't get me wrong.
I like the new characters.
I think the new characters are cool.
I just don't like how they've done what they've done with them
and what they've done with the original.
I just think that they've, you know,
they had some good ideas,
but then they didn't execute them very well.
You know, it's like they just, I don't know,
I just like, oh, it's almost like they said,
hey, we want to do new movies, but at the same time,
We need to re-familiarize everybody with the original trilogy because for some reason they think that nobody's seen them.
And so let's rehash those and start over.
It's like, well, we didn't need that, you know.
You could have just built on what we had.
So you were looking forward more to this one, the solo, than you were to The Last Jedi?
In a way, in a way, yeah.
And this one, I mean, I tried to temper my expectations because it's just like,
what everybody said with this one.
You know, did we really need this movie?
Probably not.
But, you know, I'll get into more about what I felt about it and all that.
You know, as far as my expectations go,
I tried to keep them kind of even keel for this movie
just because I didn't want to go in and have it, you know,
just be like, oh, this is going to suck or it's going to be awesome one way or the other.
I tried to be just, okay, let's just see what they give us,
and then whether it's good or not and go from there.
right makes sense that seems more than fair you know well we'll get into it we'll definitely
definitely take more than just a bite into this movie I'm sure I've done I know
Nez has a lot to say and especially the way that it fits into the overall tapestry
this should be pretty interesting talking but in the meanwhile
Nez what's your cool of the week it's glorious it's glorious each and every time I
watched it. Wow. I can't wait. I can't wait for season two.
Sean Keenan or whatever the hell's last name is. Mike Barnes from Part 3 is coming back.
And oh my God, it's going to be awesome. I want to know, is he going to still be a part of
Cobra Kai or is he going to be on his own and just be on a revenge to get Daniel and then maybe
Johnny will help him out. But Brian, you were talking about bringing a Chosenback.
He needs his honor back.
Yeah, if he came back, the way I think they should bring him back,
he should have a whole crew with him.
And then Johnny and Daniel and maybe Mike Barnes join up to try to take him down or something.
I mean, they can't just bring him back and him be by himself and then kick out.
Because I know Chosen would be able to kick all three of their asses,
but I don't know.
They need to work out some kind of awesome story.
If they can bring back Terry Silver, the dude that was John Crease's friend in the third movie,
if they can bring him back, oh, man, that would be glorious.
I had read he had retired acting, so.
Just throw a big check at him.
He'll come back.
Throw a big check at him.
I think we need Elizabeth Shue to come back, too.
Oh, I heard she's coming back for season two.
Yeah.
Yeah.
They sort of hinted like they were going to try to get her in there.
I just finished watching the 10th episode this morning.
My wife and I was sitting there watching it and I was thinking, well, she's married.
So how are they going to bring her?
I mean, they could bring her back to just, yeah, I'm back in town because they said she's living in Denver now.
And my wife was, well, I said he can't get back with Daniel.
Daniel's married and who knows, maybe she'll want to get back with Johnny.
I don't know.
They'll bring her back some way.
Because they did throughout the show, they were hinting and talking a lot about her.
So who knows?
Even if she popped in for a few episodes, I'd be all for it.
But Cobra Kai is my cool of the week.
And if none of you guys have seen it, you have to see it.
It is fucking awesome.
I haven't watched it.
She sounds like a whola.
What?
The fuck did that come from?
Was that from a karate kid movie?
No.
It was a fill-up quote.
I was channeling my old Jewish lady.
Oh, no.
Maybe I'll put it in Q behind Deadwood in Atlanta,
but I ain't putting it ahead of either of those two.
Oh, yeah, Atlanta.
I still got to watch that.
Cobra Kai, you guys are slowly talking me into it.
It's the number one series in the world.
What?
I don't know that that's a thing.
No.
It's anything that's out there.
It's beating out shows on Netflix.
Is this one of those stupid baseball stats
where it's like he's hit the most home runs
in the second inning after having two outs
and he has a foot problem?
No, they said the streaming numbers
are beating out on Netflix shows.
Oh, wow.
Wow.
This is better than anything that's on TV right now, anything.
Damn.
He does still have to watch Cobra Kai.
Sweep the leg, Johnny.
So Patrick, is that your cool of the week too?
No, well, I didn't watch this last week,
but I do have something related
that kind of ties into my cool of the week,
so I did rewatch The Grotty Kid.
Is that your cool of the week?
Yeah, it was on Amazon,
so I popped it in the other night and watched it,
and it was kind of fun to go,
because I hadn't seen it a while,
but after watching the series,
it made me want to go back and see it.
So between the first,
that and then I'm still wrapping up my
rewatched Deadwood. I'm on
season 3 about halfway through it
and still loving that every
bit like that's got
to be one of my favorite TV shows of all time
just about
after watching it again. It's just
awesome.
And Deadwood. I got a lot of
shit to watch. Yeah,
it's definitely
something you have to see, especially
if you're fan of Westerns and whatnot.
I know.
Karate Kid was
fun though. It was nice to go back and see it again
after watching the series and all that stuff.
I'll probably give the series another watch
here at some point just because it is
pretty quick and easy to get through, which
is kind of nice.
Then my last cool of the week
is I did a couple of things here.
I watched the second season of
the toys that made us.
Nice. Oh, I didn't know there was a second season yet.
Yeah, it just came out Friday,
so I watched them all Friday night.
I got through the first two episodes and half of the Lego one.
Damn.
Yeah, I burned through all four.
Yeah.
Speaking of Karate Kid.
Well, I've seen that one.
I've got to watch the second season, though.
Okay.
Speaking of you re-watching Karate Kid,
I went through all three of them yesterday on Hulu, the first three.
Oh, yeah.
Cool as a week.
Jesus.
God damn, guys.
Where's Mr. Miyagi when you need him?
All right, peace.
Rest in peace.
Well, maybe Jackie Chan can come on and reprise the roll or something.
No.
No.
No.
All right.
Would that be disrespectful?
Yes.
Yeah, it wasn't Jackie Chan you didn't like.
It was Will Smith's kid.
Right?
What was the chick's name, the actress in the fourth movie?
Hello, Bruce Wayne?
Yeah, you think she would ever come back?
Because I don't see her in anything now.
I don't know.
I think she's kind of bitchies what I've heard, but I don't know if that's true or not.
She didn't have nothing to do with Daniel.
It was only Mr. Miyagi, so maybe no point bringing her in.
Well, maybe they need to form a super team to go against Chosen.
No, that's why they got Daniel's daughter, because remember she was doing the flip kicks and all that.
Yeah, she'll be the next next.
Karate kid. Why is she better than Daniel?
The karate grandkid.
How is she better than Daniel?
Because she's doing flip kicks and all kinds of shit.
Mm-hmm.
I don't know. I think she's going to go up against her friend,
that one little chubby girl with the glasses on the cobra Kai.
Uh-oh.
We'll see.
Come on, Lance.
You're Dragon, bro. You better get on it.
Be one of the cool kids.
Yeah, no kidding, man.
All right, I'll check you out.
Me too. I got to watch it.
Eventually.
Yeah, YouTube bread.
You get a free, your first.
month's free.
Yeah?
Well, there's no excuse.
Are they all up now, or are they still in progress?
All of them.
And how many episodes, 8, 10?
10.
And they're a little under 30 minutes.
I can knock that out during my lunch hour in one week.
Yep.
All right, I'll do it.
Fuck it.
Why not?
I'll watch it.
All right, who's still got to go on Cool of the Week?
I'll go, I'll go because mine's going to be quick again.
I haven't had time to watch really anything.
My wife has been watching
younger. It's been on TV
forever
for the past like two weeks
and I'm so tired of that show.
Never heard of it.
I did also, I started
Handmaid's Tale from the beginning.
Watched the first couple of
episodes and now
I'm kind of getting into it, man.
It is a pretty cool show.
So we'll
see how the rest of it goes.
but I'm a little excited about it now.
What you got, Brian?
Okay.
We reviewed the trailer for The Hollow Child, so I checked that one out.
Oh, yeah.
Was it the camera?
I said, no.
I said it was going to hang off the girl's performance, the little girl.
Yeah?
She wasn't creepy at all.
She just, you just wanted to punch her in the face.
Oh, boy.
The whole movie.
She was just a little brat, little kid.
my next one
Nez you were right
Cargo
I felt really sad and depressed by the end
oh yeah
but I thought it was a good movie
it was a different take on the zombie
genre
and then my last one was another
Netflix movie
Family Blood
it's a Blumhouse vampire movie
Oh yeah
This movie was boring as shit
Oh no
A lot of
cool of the week, huh?
Yeah, out of the three, I recommend
cargo. Family blood was just,
I see why Blumhouse didn't go
theatrical, because this was,
nothing happened for
75% of the movie.
Not like I stopped them before.
No kidding.
No kidding.
They lost me with truth or dare.
Well, they can get you back, man.
They'll do another good one this year.
They better.
So, yeah,
those three movies out of the three
check out Cargo on Netflix.
All right. Cargo it is.
How many of you guys have seen
thoroughbreds?
I've seen it. I did.
I haven't.
Brian, you haven't checked it out yet?
No, I've seen it available
and I didn't have the time.
Phil?
No, I hadn't seen it. I don't even know what it is.
You guys are missing out.
It's a really fucking
interesting, bizarre movie.
And, I mean, it's not like
your typical horror movie, there's only like
one shocking scene,
and it's at the, wouldn't you say at the very, very end,
Ness? It's not a horror movie.
Yeah, it's not a horror movie at all, but I thought it was.
It was, to me,
it was advertised as a horror movie on a lot of
websites and stuff like that.
The trailer was misleading.
Yeah, a little bit. I liked
it. It was good. I liked all the action
and the witch girl and
whatever the other one.
name was. I like them and I like what was going on.
The witch girl, the witch girl and the ready player one girl.
Yeah. Oh, that was her? Yeah.
It just, it was just slow. Don't get Chekhov, man.
That's right. He was in it. That was his last movie, wasn't it?
Yeah. I don't think so. He played a damn good role.
Yeah. It was good. It was just really slow, but overall, I did enjoy it.
It was definitely a slow burn, but this, uh, the Corey Finley's the guy who wrote it in
directed it and I don't see that he's got much coming up, but it was, it was just a beautifully
film movie. I mean, I don't know if you guys caught some of the camera angles and some of the,
the single shots as it was going through the house and stuff like that, but it seemed like
this guy's got the chops to be a really good filmmaker.
You know, doesn't, doesn't hurt that he had some really good young, you know, young actors in
there too, but yeah, I highly recommend third rates.
What did you watch it?
I just watched it at home last night
I saw it in the theater
Oh you did?
Probably made it even better man
It kind of reminded me
Yeah
I mean it was a little bit
What's that?
It said it kind of reminded me of
Heather's a little bit
Heather's
Did you get that vibe?
A little
But not too much
I don't know
I just thought it was really unique
I thought it was something new
I thought
I mean Taylor Joy was kind of doing her best Taylor Swift impression there at that time.
But no, it was a good movie.
Thoroughbreds.
If you haven't checked it out, I'd get into it.
Definitely worth the watch.
We got a few headlines this week, right, Brian?
We're doing kind of a truncated show because we have a lot to talk about on the tail end.
The Pet Cemetery remake is moving from April 19, 2019 to April 5th, so they're moving it up.
So is that now is that going to be Netflix too or is that theatrical theatrical?
The the Godzilla sequel uh Godzilla King of the Monsters is moving it back
March 22nd to May 31st next year so they're putting it into the summer blockbusters
oh all right having some faith in this one I hopes probably a good probably a good a good idea there
Yeah, they did that with the mummy too.
Is it
Is it a sequel off of that last one?
Not the Shin Godzilla, the other American one.
Yeah, but I've heard they're tweaking some things
because obviously the first one didn't perform well enough.
Because there was no Godzilla.
That's why.
Yeah, there's...
Yeah, there's going to be tons of monsters.
this one from what I read.
Well, this is also tied in
with Skoll Island, too, right?
Right. Yep.
Is this the one that's directed by
Michael Dowardy? Yep.
They should be, could be interesting then.
Yep, so we'll see.
Mike Flanagan's, the Shining
sequel, Dr. Sleep, gets a
release date of January 24th,
2020.
A little ways away.
And a couple
other big announcements for movies.
They've casted Ben for Chapter 2, actor who I am absolutely not familiar with, Jay Ryan.
Who?
What?
Jay Ryan.
For It Chapter 2?
Yeah.
I know Jay Farrow, but I've never heard of Jay Ryan.
Yeah, Jay Ryan.
I looked at him.
He does kind of, his face does kind of look like an older Ben.
Okay.
You guys remember the little chubby kid that was in the original, or not the original,
know, but the movie last year.
So, I don't know.
I've never seen anything this guy's done.
What?
We shall see.
And I guess the biggest news here, tying in with the movie we're going to talk about later,
the Boba Fett movie confirmed by going to be, I believe, directing and also writing James
Mangold, who did Logan.
Oh, no shit.
Oh, wow.
Okay.
So you got thoughts on that?
Oh, we'll be here.
Are they going to go with the Maori knife?
I think, you know.
Or is it going to be a black?
I don't know.
I mean, we'll see.
I'm all for.
No.
I'm sorry, go ahead.
I'm all for who.
I don't care who's in the suit.
Just leave the helmet on.
Yeah.
So it doesn't really matter who it is, right?
No.
Even if you can get somebody with a cool voice or whatever, but just...
Don't show him in the beginning with his helmet on,
then the rest of the movie, it's off.
No, I want his helmet on from the beginning.
You're talking about Mysterio?
No, Bubba Fat.
Oh, Bubba Fat.
Oh, I'm sorry.
Okay, I was sidetracked.
For a minute...
Yeah, it's hard telling.
I thought you were about Judge Dred there for a minute.
I like the idea.
Keep the helmet on.
I think that would be cool.
And plus sometime here soon,
I'm assuming they're going to announce the Obi-1 movie.
Oh, boy.
There's a lot of talks about that.
What is the Obi-
You and McGregor?
Those rumors, yeah.
They're saying he's getting in shape and everything,
throwing the beard out.
What are they going to show?
Like some phone war stuff or something?
No,
The adventure between after he dropped off Luke to Owen Lars and his aunt Baru.
Oh, yeah.
Taking you about a big fan, Lance.
Oh, just keep going.
I'm listening.
I'm sorry.
There was rumors that the guy that played Uncle Owen, he wants to reprise his role.
He's got to be four years.
I'm saying, yeah.
I'm saying that he should.
God needs money. What are you going to do?
He should get back with Obi-1 because if you guys remember, I know this is a horror podcast
and we only talk about space and comic book movies.
Exactly.
Cobra Cod.
Yeah, that too.
In the original Star Wars, not a new hope.
This is when it was Star Wars in 77.
We just had the anniversary the other day.
when
Uncle Owen is
talking to
Aunt Baru
and you can just
see that
Owen is just
like mad
when Luke brings
up Ben
and this is
what I want
this is just
what's in my
head if they
go ahead
with this movie
Owen joins
Ben
they get into
all these
adventures
adventures
something happens
to where
Owen
doesn't like
Ben anymore
right
so that's why
Like that's why he was so like, ah, he's dead.
Don't worry about him because he didn't want to be.
Right.
Okay.
Because even at Bruges said that she was like, well, he's like his dad.
He's got too much of him, of his dad in him, and Uncle Owens, well, that's what I'm worried about.
So I kind of think that something happened between Ben and Uncle Owen to why they don't like each other.
Orwin doesn't like Ben anymore.
So, but that's just in my nerd head.
Right.
But I'm all for it, man.
E. O'O. McGregor coming back, because Ben, he's older than he was in the prequels, and I think he can do it.
I think it'll be a good story.
I don't know who would direct, but I'm all for it.
But wins the Garido movie.
I want to know.
I'm sure they're working on it.
I want the Lumpy movie.
Lumpy, oh, Lumpy and Nagee, man.
Tobacco's son
I want his movie
I want the story of the
Rancor keeper
I know you're going to get it
you think
the Rancor keeper
guy
you know how he cries
when the monster dies
yeah
I want to see that movie
he's got a story
to tell
so is the movie
taking place after
I don't know
well I'm pretty even
the Rancor Keeper
I would say
he needs to be how he meets
the Rancor once
yeah
he can't
the Rancor
I thought it was going to be a movie
How he holds up after
And why he had such an intimate tie to this
Rancourt? It's like
The Shape of Water.
Right.
I want a Max Rebo movie
To show me how he climbs
His claim. Claim to fame.
Claim to fame, yeah.
He has better...
Moves up the ranks from bar to bar to...
You better send your ideas in now
because I guarantee you that eventually
they'll make
every one of them.
Yep.
Well, there's only so many ideas to go around,
and they're making moves every year, so.
Right.
And that is all the news.
All right.
You boys ready to go down to the trailer park?
You know it.
I guess so.
Brian, what's the first new trailer to talk about this week?
Parts Unknown,
starring James Ball's Ammo,
I believe it is.
James Ball's Ammo.
James Balls Ammo.
Wow.
All right.
Sure this isn't a porno?
Is that his girl name?
It might be.
I don't know.
Not after watching it.
I'm not sure.
Lizzie Havick and Jake the Snake Roberts.
All right.
You guys,
I got to go back and watch this.
You guys are on your own because I watched the wrong trailer.
Some motherfuckers sent me something called Handjob Cabin,
and that's the one I watch.
you god damn it.
Really?
You guys are up.
That's the one we're going to talk about.
All right, let's talk about handjob cabin.
What did you guys say?
I think it looks awesome.
I can't wait to see.
Yeah, I can't wait, man.
A new role for Bruce Campbell, maybe, finally, huh?
I wouldn't want to feel that death, man.
Someone jerk you off until you die.
You feel good in the beginning.
Death by Snoo, snoo.
I was just curious, I mean, is it actually going to be a movie?
and someone just put a parody trailer together.
I think, I've seen this before.
Yeah, I have too.
I think it's just a parody trailer,
but you never know.
Stuff gets turned into movies all the time.
All the time.
So I think if it actually releases,
we need to do it with one-eyed monster
and do a review on it.
Well, I guess we have to now.
It's horror, so...
Yeah, right.
All right.
Parts and what did you guys?
thing.
I thought it was really nice for you to put your
buddies movie on here, but
that's not really what we're doing
on this podcast.
Was it that bad?
Is it like a Walking Dead ripoff or what?
It looked a little raw.
About as low
budget as low budget gets.
They're going for a grind house style
movie. Yeah. Right.
Which I'm all
for. I like grind house.
I like wrestling.
There's some,
look like there's going to be some gore in this,
so I have no fucking clue
of what the story's about, but...
Oh, it looks totally insane.
But it's got to take the snake, so...
It kind of reminded me of, like,
an old trauma movie or something.
Yeah, it did.
My prediction is that it's going to be awful.
Is this after?
Is this after his transformation?
Take the snakes.
his transformation
I would
I would hope so
I don't want to see
previous Jake the Snake
Yeah
I don't want to see crackhead
Jake to Snake
No
I don't want to hear
Those stories
That he didn't want to film
Unless they went and got him some
Or
I want to hear none of those stories
But I hope so
I thought we were going to talk about
Like Linda the Snake Roberts
And that kind of transformation
I was like
Oh
What happened?
Parts unknown, June 9th.
I'm sure it'll be out there somewhere.
I'm sure it'll be on our list to watch, right?
I'm sure nobody will give a shit,
because this looks like it's going to go under the radar.
You think?
Yeah.
And let's see.
Our final trailer is Down a Dark Hall
starring Taylor Russell, Anna Sophia Rob,
and Uma Thurman, who,
I was just wondering the other.
the other day. I haven't seen
Uma Thurman in a while. She's...
Right. We talked about two trailers
in two weeks with her in it,
so...
Sounds like a slow trailer week to me.
Yeah, very, very slow.
Directed by Ricardo Cortez.
What did you guys
think? Brought to you by the
producers of the Twilight Saga.
Yes, that's why I tapped out right there.
Yeah.
Not how much. Hey,
that's where I'm all about it.
Oh, yeah, you're all in that.
Yep, I'm on board.
All right, so we're going to do this one along with Twilight, right?
Oh, Jesus Christ.
And lose half the listeners we work so hard to build up the past two years.
People boycott our show.
This looks like a movie that I would take my young daughter to watch.
Is that little girl that got her leg bit off by the shark?
I don't remember that movie what it was called.
Her arm.
Her arm.
Oh, was it her arm?
Yeah, her arm.
the surf movie, what was it
called? Sail surfer.
Well, writer.
Sol surfer, okay.
Yeah, it's Anna Sophia Rob.
Yeah, same girl.
Wasn't she in the movie with The Rock?
Disney movie?
The Witch Mountain movie?
I think she might have been.
I think that was her.
Sounds right.
The Rock's been in a lot of dumb shit.
Yeah, that was pretty dumb.
Yeah.
There was a slap in the original one.
Yeah, exactly.
This looks all right.
I mean, I don't like the dark short hair the Huma Thurman has,
and it just looks like another ghost story inside of a big mansion type of place.
Yeah, kind of generic.
I'll check it up.
I didn't really give this one enough attention to be able to really give an opinion on it,
but it sort of fell into the background with me.
That's probably much attention you should have gave it.
Yeah, it looks like it's going to be one of those movies.
movies that, you know, if you watch it, you know, a couple years down the road, somebody's like,
have you ever seen this movie?
And you're like, uh, I don't remember, you know, it just sort of falls into the background.
Yeah.
I'd go ahead.
I'd movie pass it. I'd say I'd movie pass it if it's still around when it comes out.
Yeah.
If movie pass is still around?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Speaking of that, what's going on with that?
People are saying it's going to shut down in like two months.
Yeah, it's only got an operating capital for a month and a half or something.
That's what I read last week.
So we may have five weeks left, guys.
We're on the countdown.
The Doom's clock.
Yeah, they started doing shit that was way beyond what they should have been doing.
Like, they were investing in movies.
What?
Yeah, and I think if you ever got like email saying, oh, you know, from movie pass, you should go watch such and such.
Right, right.
What was the Tanya Harding movie?
I, Tanya.
I got an email from that, and then I found out they kind of like partially invested in that movie.
And I'm like, you guys are doing way too much.
Yeah, stick to one thing and do it right.
Yeah, it doesn't sound like they have an awesome business model,
but I'll take advantage of it while they give it to me.
Yeah, pretty much. Use it why you can.
I've said it before, and I'll say it again.
if it was 1995 a month, I'd have no problem with that.
I don't know why they don't just do that.
And at least, I'd do 25 a month even.
Yeah.
Well, if they're listening, we're fucked.
Yeah.
We'll have to get emails.
So just for you guys.
So if you have a movie pass, check out Down a Dark Hall.
There you go.
But hopefully we'll possibly have a better trailer next.
week I just heard today
we might get the Halloween trailer
with the upgrade movie
that doesn't sound promising
I mean I've been hearing too much
really
the people that have seen it already
and
Halloween
yeah
they've already seen it
yeah they had some screenings for
but they were test ones so I don't know
if maybe they went back
because a while ago they had a test screen
and it didn't go too good but then they still
had plenty of time to fix it.
It's not coming out until October, but...
Yeah, I heard it was the end.
Was the problem.
That's what I read, and they were doing...
They went and did reshoots to fix the end, so...
But, you know, I have to see it first to place judgment.
I don't know.
Yeah.
I mean, this could just be all just fake news and just to get people talking about like we are.
So...
Yep.
Yeah, because Deadpool, too.
was supposed to be the biggest piece of shit that was ever made from
previous test screenings.
Really? Yeah.
It was the worst movie.
They got a bomb on their hands and all kinds.
Just all kinds of stuff came out.
And I mean, I didn't give it as high score as everybody else, but it was nowhere
near a bomb.
Yeah.
Definitely worth watching.
Yeah.
People are stupid.
Continue.
And that's our last trailer.
All right.
Well, like I said, we're trying to make this a special holiday edition.
Everybody's got family in town and stuff like that.
So we're going to skip listener feedback this week.
Sorry, Phil.
No, it breaks your heart.
But we will double down next week.
So keep the feedback coming, everybody.
I'll get to you.
I promise.
Just let us know what's up.
Leave us some feedback.
and I promise I'll read it.
Fuck Lance.
I'm going to read it next week.
We'll read all of it, right?
Yep.
All right, you guys are ready for some featured attractions?
So we're going to check out the Star Wars films solo
as well as the 1984 sci-fi classic,
The Ice Pirates.
Start with the Ice Pirates trivia.
Director was Stuart Refil,
also known for the other sci-fi classic Mac and me.
rip off of
and also
the Philadelphia experiment
writers
also Stuart Raffell
but he got some help from
Stanford Sherman
also known for Kroll
as well as several episodes
of the Adam West Batman series
the film is
at first this film was intended to be serious
sci-fi film with a $20 million
budget but MGM came in
slash that budget to $8 million and had the script rewritten as a comedy.
Also, according to a crew member, the entire sound team was fired mid-production and replaced without any explanation.
What?
And, hey.
Now, this is a great moment in a particular actor's history.
I think he chose very wisely.
Kevin Costner turned down the role of Jason.
So there you go.
It's so fitting.
But anyway, the Ice Pirates, 1984.
It's 80s.
So, Nez, you go first, man.
Well, first of all, why did you pick this movie?
I picked it.
I remember it from...
I watched this movie quite a bit when I was a kid.
I had it on VHS, and it just had to do with space pirates and stealing shit.
so that's why I went with it.
Why not?
You can't go wrong with Robert Eurek, Spencer for hire.
He was badass in this.
I actually seen this in the theater when it came out.
I know the anniversary was back in March.
This was a movie that my cousin, he loved SWAT,
and Robert Yurek was on that.
So he was like, hey, let's go see this.
And he loved the Michael D. Roberts, Roscoe.
I can't remember what he was in before this film.
I know he did TV and some other movies, but he was like, let's go see it.
I had no idea what it was.
Like, this was, what, mid-80s maybe, early to mid-80s.
And it was the time when it was all the movies, like sci-fi movies coming.
I mean, after Star Wars hit and everything, and other than.
Star Trek, you had all these
sci-fi movies that came out.
And I could see, I had no idea
that they wanted to make this a serious movie.
It probably would have sucked
because
pretty much every movie, almost
every sci-fi movie, not talking about
Star Wars or Star Trek,
it was all kind of like all the same.
And we had Battle Beyond the Stars. We had
Space Hunter, Space Raiders,
and just
a crawl, you mentioned earlier, which is
an amazing film. I love that film.
you had all those type of style of movies and this this was the days of if you made a movie everything went to the theater so right right i pretty much seen all those movies that i had mentioned in the theater and so i was expecting okay another sci-fi movie right on it looks cool and then when we saw it i had no idea it was going to be uh it is a cult classic if you follow me on instagram i was down of sacramento and i
I found an old beta tape, which was Ice Pirates.
And I thought that was crazy that, then, yeah, we're going to talk about Ice Pirates.
And I was like, whoa.
Oh, no, beta.
But I don't have a beta player.
And for you younger listeners, if you don't know what beta is, you can Google it and learn about it.
But anyway, the movie, we watched the movie.
I laughed my ass off.
I've seen it multiple times in the theater.
I had it on VHS.
And when it did the cable run, Showtime, HBO, whatever it was, I watched it, like all
the time. I had to watch the little crappy one
that was on YouTube
with the little
the screen, the actual movie was
in like in the left hand corner. And there was
like these stars or something
zinging by. I think that's how they got
away by putting it free on
YouTube.
But this movie, it's funny.
It's 80s. It's cheese.
It's stupid. You did
have some faces in it. You had Ron Perlman.
You had Angelica Houston.
Other than Robert Urick.
And it was hilarious, man.
Yes, it's like considered just B-style stupid 80s, and that's what I love.
And I love this movie.
I mean, everything about it was hilarious.
It's like I said, it's stupid fun and stupid comedy, and that's what made it good.
I love this film.
Patrick?
Yeah, this movie is kind of a, I kind of like Brian.
I remember watching this a lot as a kid.
It was one of those staples that was on like HBO or something like that,
that they used to watch just all the time
just because it seemed like every time we turn TV on it was on.
So I enjoy it from that aspect.
I will say this,
I haven't seen
I haven't seen a movie rip off
as many Star Wars scenes
from the original trilogy since The Last Jedi.
Oh, no.
I have to bring you back off.
Damn.
This guy, dude.
I'll give you credit in just being relentless
And it was fun.
I mean, it's super cheesy.
I mean, the effects are terrible, all that stuff.
It does have a pretty interesting cast.
One of the guys in it, the guy that played Killjoy,
I don't know if you all recognized him or not,
but he was also, he was, what's his name from Gunies?
He was Sloth.
Oh.
And I recognize him from one of my.
Dunstim.
Yeah.
I recognize him from one of my favorite comedies from way back today, a movie called Caveman.
Yeah.
He was the main bad guy in Caveman, too.
I thought that.
That was pretty funny.
That was a good movie.
What team did he play for?
It was John Matusak.
I don't know what team.
I think he was the Bears or something like that.
I'm not sure exactly.
I got it right here in front of me.
He played for the Raiders.
The Raiders, yeah.
Well, other than the Raiders, he was on another team.
I can't remember, though.
He was on the Oilers and what?
Yeah, he was on the old.
Yeah, the Chiefs.
He played for the Chiefs for a year.
Yeah.
Okay.
Redskins.
He played a two-time Super Bowl champ.
Yeah.
He was in the movie, North Dallas 40.
That's a football player, too.
Damn.
Art of his life, huh?
Yeah, he was actually.
in more stuff than I realized he was in as far as an actor goes.
But no, I mean, the movie itself was fun for what it was.
I mean, you know, it's pretty ridiculously bad on the effects and everything like that.
You could obviously tell the it was low budget and some of the jokes that are pretty, pretty terrible.
But as a kid, I loved it.
But I mean, it was just one of those.
I remember always watching as I got older.
I was like, yeah, it's definitely not, doesn't hold up from what it used to be.
but it's still some good 80s cheese.
So I was not going for it.
I don't know, man.
I felt like as far as 80s cheese goes, dude, this,
I was expecting just a shitstorm when I watched this.
And I was like, the ass pirates.
What the fuck are we watching the ass pirates for?
And I started watching it, man, and it totally grew on me.
I'd never heard of this movie.
And I watched it.
and I kind of loved it, man.
It was hilarious.
It was so stupid.
It's one of those where it's kind of so bad that it's good, but it's...
Right.
Yeah, it's not even really that bad.
It's just cheesy.
But they have, like, there's a scene where, you know, they are going to castrate them
with like these Mouser-looking chombers, right?
And then when they get saved from it and they have...
have to pretend like they've been castrated.
So when they talk...
Right.
They talk very hot bitch like this.
Yes.
Yes, ma'am.
I mean, I'm there.
I don't know.
I thought it was...
I had a blast watching this movie.
I thought it was really going to suck.
And I was surprised at how much I enjoyed myself.
Yeah.
It's been a while for me, but this movie kind of holds up in a certain way.
I laughed.
I mean, there's so much shit.
in here as a kid that I like, I mean,
the dude that's just ahead,
he has an entire army
of Wonder Woman.
Wonder Woman with, with fucking unicorn.
Make a deposit thing.
Did you, did you catch that line?
I was like, what is he asking him to do?
You know what he was asking him to do, man.
And the,
the thing that I really like
is they really kept it like a pirate
movie, even though it was in space
throughout the movie from the way that they dressed.
You know, they still had swords.
And even the little scene when they're looking for the guy to help find the princess's father,
you know, it kind of looked like a scene out of a pirate movie.
You've got the chicks fighting, people drinking, you know.
I like they just kept it pirate throughout the movie.
And this movie, I don't know.
It still holds up for me.
Yes, it is cheesy, but I'm sure.
you're going to bring us down here.
They gave this maybe the wrong name.
It's not the ice pirates.
It's not the ass pirates.
The way you fuckers are talking,
it should be called the goddamn Kool-Aid pirates
because that's what you fucking idiots are all drinking.
Are you guys out of your goddamn minds?
The fucking costumes looked like they were all fucking extras
that they just pulled off whatever back lot
they could sneak in and steal the costumes out of.
Fucking fake swords, half pirate, half space,
just garbage, man.
The acting was terrible.
The plot line was horrible.
Patrick, you kept bringing up on the internet.
You kept trolling me and saying,
Space herpes, space herpy.
Yeah, that joke was funny
the first 27 times they used it.
But fun, guys.
You guys really enjoyed this.
Wow.
Oh, I definitely enjoyed the space herpy.
I thought that was hilarious.
You had Kung Fu fighting robots.
Go on.
And space herpes.
Yeah, those are.
robot those robots made that
beady, bitty, bitty robot from
Buck Rogers looked like fucking
artificial intelligence from the
28th century. You had
the black robot
with soul. That's it.
That's the only thing I did
like, that's the only thing I did appreciate this
movie is that they didn't, they didn't
worry about political correctness with any
of their jokes.
That was 84. That was refreshing.
That was refreshing in light of what we get now.
But I mean, fuck,
trying to think if there was any saving grace here i can't think of one being crosby's daughter who was in it
she she was hot other than that that's about it that there was the one scene i totally was just
it did the the love scene yeah oh passion storm or whatever yeah that was awesome i definitely
expected i definitely expected more i expected more out of angelica houston and ron perlman i'll tell you
that. I think they were wasted in this.
I want to make love like that
when
water crashing.
Listen, if you can do it and then there's
a waterfall, you're doing it right.
Oh, boy.
You didn't like the
final battle where they'd slip
in due time every 10 seconds
and the elders are fighting.
There's a baby that pops up.
And then of course
everything was instantly fixed
perfectly, right? Where none of
it happened. They never
strayed off course through the time.
Yeah, they didn't explain that before
they went in. Oh, okay.
All right. Yeah, you're right. It's a 10 now.
Sorry.
And you had Roscoe
watching his afro go from
dark to grade to like
Cottonball White.
Wow. Maybe if I'd been
smoking something while I was watching it would have been
different, but I watched it at work.
I think they were smoking
something when they made it.
Oh, they were smoking
They were smoking something
They were snorting something
I guarantee you
I know where about
7 and a half million
Of that 8 million dollar budget went
Oh man
This movie is glorious man
I mean I loved it
I mean
It was kind of a fresh
A
Fresh
Movie that I totally forgot
Forgot
Forgotten about
Yeah
Yeah we're doing ice pirates
I was like
Hell yeah
Damn
If we're gonna do a bad
Star Wars
parody, you could have at least done
space balls or something, Brian.
We'll get there. I'm sure
it's going. Give it time. Give it time. All right.
Everyone's done baseballs. How many people
have done ice pirates?
Well, I'll do it again.
I'm glad I watched. I never
would have seen this otherwise. So, yeah,
if you haven't seen ice pirates,
man, go check it out. It's pretty fucking funny.
All right. How old are you, Phil?
I'm 35.
Brian?
I'll be 38 next month.
All right. See, Lance and Patrick, we're all pretty much the same age.
I mean, this is when we were teenagers, and this movie's awesome.
I don't know where you were, Lance, but, man.
I was watching Pink Floyd the Wall and the Rocky Horror Picture Show at midnight.
I wasn't watching this kind of shit.
They're probably showing this movie at midnight.
They probably are.
If they're not, they should be.
Patrick, did you see this?
theater? No, I didn't.
I caught it when it hit cable.
It was on, because we, I don't know.
I remember what it was, but I remember it showing up on
like HBO or Cinemax or something like that.
And I used to watch it all the time and it was on there, but I didn't get to see it
at the theater.
What do you guys think for scores?
Nez?
Oh, 10 all the way.
Whoa.
Give a serious score, man.
Which board style?
Man, dude, this one's 10.
I love it.
Wow.
Well, I don't think it's quite a 10, but I do have some love for it for nostalgia reasons.
But for me, it's about a 5.5.
But it's still fun to watch just for what it is.
Yeah, it is super cheesy.
But I enjoy to have some good memories for it, so I'll give that 5.5.
That's probably a realistic score.
I'm going to give it a seven because I had a really good time watching it.
Wow.
It was just, it was way better than what I expected.
I really expected this thing to suck.
I was like thinking about all kinds of ass pirate jokes that I could throw out there.
And I forgot about them.
You can still do it.
I just, well, I was trying to think of them.
And then I just got caught up in the movie.
And, you know, there's space herpes.
Yeah, I mean, it's better than Last Jedi.
for sure.
That's right.
Even Kevin thought so.
He gave it a 10.
Well, listen,
something like this
goes on a different rating scale
than like a legit movie.
Okay?
This is so bad.
It's good.
Seven, it's fun.
Kind of like the Thor movie,
the rock and roll nightmare movies, huh?
Exactly.
Like the rock and roll nightmare movies.
I thought you're talking about
Thor Ragnarok,
which I rewatched, by the way.
Amazing.
Maybe one of my best Marvel movies.
ever. Wow. Well, you have the majority.
I'm going to go seven and a half.
I love this movie. It's very
nostalgic for me and as
Philip was given his score,
I just purchased
the Blu-ray on Amazon.
Bam. Wow. With the special
features. The making of the space herpy.
Right. The Blu-ray,
I'm sure you can see the strings, huh?
and now it'll be glorious oh there was definitely a scene where you could tell there was a string on it and they were just pulling it to me
one and a half
what ouch yep y'all ready to move on
bye bye man is better than this one
no i can get bye by by man like a half or something okay that's fair definitely better than bye by man
Hell no, tan all the way.
I just ordered mine as well right now.
I didn't even know it was on Blu-ray.
No.
I didn't even know this movie was on Blu-ray.
Hell yeah, I just bought it.
You'll probably just double their sales.
They'll probably want to come on to do an interview on our podcast now.
They might.
Fucking 1984.
What else are they doing?
Stuart Riffbill, the director and writer.
Is he still alive?
Let's see.
We ought to reach out to him.
born in 1942 in the UK who's going to reach out to him Brian you going to
I'll find them you know that dude I got on Twitter
in 1944 any of you listeners out there that have seen this movie and love it
please comment on the page and let us know what you think
and all of you that hate it suck it
all right you heard it here first three out of four recommend this one right
or wait three out of five
three out of five right
no I gave it a five
I gave it a five and a half
I'd still recommend watching it if you've never seen it
all right
just don't go in expecting a masterpiece
but it is funny
it is a masterpiece
no end expecting shit
and then and then be just
blown away
like excited about it you know
I don't know I don't know where I was going
with that
it probably
trying to make an aspirate joke.
All right.
We ready for the big one?
Yep.
Writers were Jonathan and his father, Lawrence Kasden.
And Kasden, of course, was also known for writing some of the best movies ever.
Return of the Jedi and Raiders of the Lost Ark among Lawrence Kasden's writing credits.
Phil Lord, most people know this story, I think.
Phil Lord and Christopher Miller, weren't they the Lego movie guys, Brian?
Yep.
They left this film in June of 2017, only three weeks away from finishing principal photography.
Apparently, they clashed throughout the entire production process with Kathleen Kennedy,
as well as Lawrence Kousden and other Lucas film members over the direction and tone of the film.
Miller and Lord had been encouraging improvisation and making an overall comedic film against Kaston's wish.
eventually they stepped away
due to that famous
quote creative differences
this is interesting
the film has marked the first time
an Academy Award winning director
has ever made a Star Wars film
that's strange
kind of thought there would have been by now
but I guess that's it first time
so solo
Patrick
how does it compare to Last Jedi
well I have to say
I enjoy it more than I did Last Jedi
for sure.
I didn't
it didn't blow me away
like when I went to see
you know
like Rogue 1
since that was the first arrive
I come out of that movie
just like man
that movie was awesome
yeah me too
this movie
this movie was good
I didn't hate it
I wasn't blown away by it
but I thought it was
pretty good for what it was
it's just
I don't know
I guess I guess
I guess because I had my
expectations
kind of tempered that, you know, I know, I, there wasn't anything in it to me that made me go,
ooh, man, this is like fantastically great.
But I enjoyed watching it, you know, so, I mean, it was a good, solid movie overall.
You know, it didn't hurt the franchise any, I don't think.
But it just wasn't as thrilling to me as what I got out of some of the other movies.
But definitely wasn't an improvement on Last Jedi to me.
I'll go last.
Go ahead.
Oh.
I had a lot of fucking fun watching this movie.
I thought the cast did fine.
It was a lot of callbacks.
There was some surprises popping up in the movie.
Chubaka was the fucking man in this movie.
And I loved every minute of it.
And I really want to go back for a second viewing in the theater.
I had so much fun with this.
I can't wait to get into spoilers
because I don't know how to really talk about it
without even just dropping anything that was in the movie though
So Phil
Yeah
I had fun with it
Is it something that we needed? Probably not
I think that there were a lot of references
For the sake of references
You know what I mean?
And they were cool
Like don't give you wrong
I was excited when I saw these things
and I was like, oh yeah, okay, cool.
But it wasn't anything really spectacular.
They didn't, you know, break down any,
they didn't really give you any new information
or any of that.
It's probably not going to hurt the franchise.
It was fun to watch,
but it was kind of just okay to me.
Like I liked it,
but it wasn't,
It wasn't what I wanted out of a Star Wars movie.
Interesting.
It was my turn?
Yeah.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, I mean, you guys knew how I felt going into this.
You guys know what my worries were and my concerns about this.
And, you know, I felt the same about Avengers Infinity War, remember?
Brian, what were you thinking I was going to say about Infinity War, man?
It was garbage.
It was overhyped.
Right.
Yeah, and then I get in there,
and it's some of the best writing of any superhero movie ever, in my opinion.
And it was, I think I gave it a nine.
It was like one of my favorite films of the year so far, if not my favorite.
It's pretty awesome.
You know?
This one, my only concern about all this was like, you know, do they, I didn't think it was going to be bad.
I was just thinking, do they really need to go back and, you know, tell all this story about this
mysterious character that, you know, in my mind, I kind of wanted to keep some of his
backstory mysterious. You know, I wanted Han Solo to be Han Solo. We don't know exactly, you know.
And unfortunately, this time around, it wasn't knowing Avengers Infinity War for me. That's for damn
sure. But a couple of things I'll say about it, like as far as overall without getting any
spoilers. Number one, it was exactly what I thought it was going to be in the fact that it told a
whole bunch of stuff that I didn't really need to know. It filled in a lot of gaps that could have
been left unfilled. It was just kind of a waste of two hours and 15 minutes of my life, quite frankly.
What did surprise me is I really kind of thought the, I didn't know what to expect with the new
guy, but I thought with the rest of the cast was pretty strong, and I thought the,
acting was going to be good?
Not so.
Not so at all.
I thought everybody in this was fucking horrible.
I thought some of the worst, most bland, wooden performances ever.
Woody Harrelson was terrible.
Thandie Newton was terrible.
And I didn't believe anybody.
I didn't understand anybody's motivations for doing what they did.
Amelia Clark, God bless her for being the Mother of Dragons,
but she ain't no great actress, man.
She is smoking hot, though.
She's okay
She's okay
Donald Glover man
He did not bring it for me
He was not
He was Donald Glover is not
My Landau Calrizy
And I'm just not smooth
Enough for me boys
I gotta disagree with that one
And then Fannie Newton
Why the fuck would she blow herself up
Just stop the
Doing what you're doing
Everybody get off the guy
Goiler alert
Come back
Oh shit
Oh no
Did I just do that
Oh man
I'm talking
Ah crap
I'll have to go back in
That's just shit the bed.
You know what?
I have shit the bed because this movie, in my opinion, shit the bad.
I fucking hated it.
I didn't hate it.
I didn't hate it.
It wasn't, ah, it's hard to describe without spoiling, but just things that didn't need to be told, I thought.
And I'm going to go way on the limb here, guys.
I'm going to piss everybody off now.
If I'm going to go here, I'm going to go all the way.
Yeah, Academy Award winning Ron Howard.
I'm going to say it here right now.
Ron Howard is a fucking hack.
Ron Howard is a fucking hack.
The best movie that he ever directed
was the first movie he ever directed
Night Shift back in 1982
about using a fucking mortuary
and turning into a prostitution ring.
That was a movie.
He picked this up from somebody else, man.
I mean, he was...
The movie was already done and he had to fix it.
You know what? I'm not letting him off the hook.
The fucking Da Vinci Code movie,
are goddamn horrible.
The books are fantastic.
The Dan Brown books are awesome.
He does such a horrible job with these films.
Frost Nixon, boring.
Rush boring.
Apollo 13, not...
I'm a space nut.
I didn't like it.
Far and away, what the fuck was that?
Backdraft, terrible.
This guy's a goddamn hack.
Get him out of the industry.
Just fucking go-make movies with Clint Howard.
I'm done.
Whoa.
You leave Clint.
Howard alone.
Clint Howard's fine.
Who's next?
What are we doing?
He's done?
A tirade.
Yeah, I'm done.
I'm done.
All right.
This is why I'm going to say Lance is a hack.
This movie was glorious.
Glorious.
Ron Howard is an awesome director.
Everything he's done has been good.
He always uses the great and legendary Clint Howard, who was in this as well.
Because Clint Howard.
Howard was not in this movie. We were going to riot and burn down the castle.
This isn't the Hans Solo that we all know in love.
That's, it's not a spoiler.
He did an all right job, but I think this movie wasn't just, yes, it's titled Solo, but this wasn't about him.
There is so much in this movie. If you're not familiar with the animated series and, and, you're
don't know the other movies front to back.
A little bit of the video games.
I want to say the Masters of Terracasi.
What else?
What else?
This also ties into another franchise of movies that has nothing to do with Star Wars,
which I was blown away by, and I was awesome.
We'll get to that in spoilers.
Chewy fucking ruled this movie.
Lando.
Donald Glover, he ruled this movie.
It was glorious.
She was all right.
I mean, I never really thought she was good in anything.
I thought she ruined the character as Sarah Connor.
But Woody, he's in a quiet taste.
I can take them or leaving.
Tandy Newton, she's all right.
I mean, I do like her in Westworld.
Yeah, she's good.
in Westwood?
Who else? Who else?
And there was a lot of cameos
from other actors in this.
Oh, Paul Bettney.
Vision?
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, he was a good character.
The story wasn't what I wanted,
but I can see what they were trying to do
because with Disney in control now
and all these other
single movies that they're going to do,
this movie is going to
it gets spent off in all kinds of directions
so I think it was
it was definitely worth
the price of admission
and what they're trying to do later on
with the Star Wars films
or even as well if they're going to go into
the TV series that John Favreau's
doing. I have no idea
about the new trilogy that
that one
Rain Johnson or whatever hell his name is is going to do
but this movie
was awesome. I went in there
not like okay. I mean, I was excited at Star Wars
and I was like, I still wasn't like
100% behind it. I was kind of like,
I mean, if you guys listened to the East Society
in the very beginning when they were having
the problems with the directors and everything, we were kind of like,
is this going to be a train wreck?
Is it going to be just shit?
No, I was
fucking, I was wrong on everything.
Yes, there was some things that they showed us,
but there was some things that
they didn't show, but when we get to spoilers...
Like what? I mean, what? What did they not show?
Nez? Come on.
There was a lot of stuff they didn't show. They hinted at it, but they didn't show it.
When we get to spoilers.
But overall, man, this movie was badass.
I saw it twice already.
I'm going for a third time in a few hours.
Well, enjoy, man. Enjoy.
I love it. I mean, this was a Star Wars movie.
I'm glad you did. It was fucking awesome.
Yeah, the main actor, I was worried he was worried he was.
was going to have trouble because he doesn't look anything like the real Han Solo.
I thought he was fucking channeling Jack Nicholson more than anybody else half the time.
He looked like Jack Nicholson from The Shining.
I got that too because he was okay.
I mean, he, yeah.
Terrible, man.
He didn't look like him.
Horrible.
His voice was too high and it was just like, that's why I was thinking this isn't a movie about him
because they threw too many any other characters in it.
And like I said, with all these other directions that it can go.
So I wasn't really focusing on him too much because he was all right.
I mean, just I kind of got that idea with the trailers because I was like, I'm not buying this kid.
I don't even know who this guy is.
Maybe I've seen him in something else and I just didn't notice.
But for me, I think I just mainly wanted to see Donald Glover's performance.
I wanted to see if he could at least do Billy D some justice.
And I thought he did.
I mean, I thought he sounded like him.
He didn't really look like him, but he kind of did.
But he did have that little Lando, that little Billy D's smoothness.
That flare, yeah, he definitely got a flare to him, I'm sure.
I'm glad you guys got that out of him because I didn't.
Well, Lance, I think with where you're coming from, I think he did, I think he did Lando fairly well.
But the problem I had is that there was no, I mean, in granted,
it wasn't a story about Lando, but
to me it's like
they didn't really explain much about him
or why he was there other than he was there.
Don't worry, they will. They will.
Yeah, I'm sure they will.
But you know what I'm saying?
I mean, that's with me. I mean, I think his performance
was okay, but it just wasn't grounded
in any kind of story. So it
was kind of hard to follow
with it because he was just there on
on screen. He wasn't, there wasn't
much of a story to make you, okay,
this is why this is going on or whatever.
or why Orlando is even here.
And I think that's what made his performance seem kind of weak
because it wasn't grounded in anything.
Yeah, it seemed like it was rushed.
I mean, they tried to feed so much to us
that they were like, okay, here's this person, here's this person.
Yeah, it did.
And now we're going to fall up.
That's what I mean, that's what I was kind of like, okay.
I mean, it was over two hours.
I think it could have went longer if they were just slowed their role
and concentrated on the actual solo character.
They didn't do that.
What I wanted was a more of a, let's see where he came from.
He just kind of mentioned, oh, well, I was here and that was it.
This is where I grew up.
I was hoping they would show that.
And just give us a little, like a little flashback of when he was a kid or whatever,
and then how he was raised and then to where he is.
Because we didn't get that.
We didn't, the Hansel that we all know and love, Harrison Ford,
he's this badass scoundrel
fucking he shoots first
and we didn't get that
we didn't get that in that
we didn't get any of that in this
I'm like come on
are you gonna show us
why he's the badass he is
it seems like he was just
a normal guy
and then okay we're gonna throw you in this battle
with these gangster
with these little criminals
and that was it
because that's what I was saying
it wasn't a movie about him
it seemed to be about everyone else
well they're trying to make him a like a marvel superhero because they've done so well with that shit lately and uh so you know they take each character and do and give you like an origin story that you don't necessarily need because in in the star wars universe dude han solo is cool but he's not really he doesn't really matter that much i mean he he had a he had a pretty big part with luke but he had a bit he had a he had a
pretty big part as a side character to Luke, you know?
He's not a main character in himself enough to warrant a whole movie about him.
But again, though, having said that, I still think that I had fun during this movie.
I liked, I liked Lando.
I thought he did a great Lando.
And I wasn't super disappointed.
I just wasn't, it didn't like hit me in the face and go, oh my God, Star Wars.
it was amazing, you know?
Right.
Like I wanted it to do.
Yep, same here.
Y'all ready for scores?
Patrick?
Yeah, I'm ready.
I guess I'm first.
For me, I've only seen this movie once,
and my score probably changed.
It might actually go up a little bit
if I see it the second time,
which I do plan on doing.
For me right now,
it's sitting at about a six and a half.
Ouch.
That's not too bad.
You know, I honestly,
it probably...
Nothing wrong with that.
I would probably say it's probably more of like a seven, seven and a half,
but I want to watch it again because I'm sure there's some stuff I might have missed out on.
But one of the problems I had with this movie, too,
and this really isn't the movie itself as far as the story ending goes.
It's just how fucking dark it was.
It's like, God damn, you can hardly see anything at the time.
Yeah.
And I hate that.
It's like, you know, brighten it up a little bit.
give me some so when I can actually see something
because I felt like I'm watching it through
freaking tinted glasses or something
and so that I that was
and like you said that's nothing on the movie itself
or content wise it just
just seems like sometimes they film these movies so damn dark
you can't even hardly tell what's going on now
but yeah I think on a second
viewing I would probably maybe give a little bit better rating
but for me right now I'm sitting at a six and a half
which I said I enjoyed it I didn't hate it
it just it just didn't blow me away
you know I wasn't
ooh and in awe and I think
you know as Star Wars fans maybe that's kind of what we
expect out of Star Wars movies
and I think at some point
we just you know because
Disney's going to be cranking these out every year
and especially with some of these solo movies
and I don't mean solo as in solo
I mean, as in Star Wars
Story movies, they're not
all going to be epic,
fantastic movies, or just not.
And I think you're just going to have to be
happy that you're getting them.
You know?
Yeah, it is another Star Wars movie.
I mean, because it can be a lot worse.
They could do a lot worse movie. They could give us Last Jedi
again. Jesus.
Oh, here we get us.
No, but in all seriousness
of this, I mean, really,
it's not
these movies, I mean,
there's going to be something that are going to be really good
and there's going to be some that are just
going to be okay.
I think that's just how it's going to be.
And, you know, that being said,
you know, in that sense,
maybe you just appreciate that you're getting a Star Wars movie,
you know, versus a hello kidding movie or something dumb or whatever.
But, you know.
My little pony.
Yeah.
Emotions.
But at the same time, you know,
I think you're going to get some of,
Like I mean, like I said, I loved Rogue One.
That movie, to me, that's like the second or third best Star Wars movie I've seen, period, out of all of them.
And that one blew me away, and I totally wasn't expecting it from it.
But these other ones, you know, I think with the, like you said, with the trilogy movies, I build those up a little bit more because I expect more out of them because they're actually part of the continuation of the story.
whereas these are one-offs
and they've got a little more liberty
because there's no expectations from us on them
other than that they fit into the canon.
So I think that's kind of it with me.
So I think overall, you know,
I think it was a decent movie,
but it just didn't blow me away.
And it also wasn't the story
that I was expecting or would have liked.
So there's that too,
which I'll get more into that in spoilers.
but yeah that's my score for now six and a half
Brian is it next or me
I'll go
I'm gonna give it an 8
I have a lot of fun with this
I love Lando
I loved chewy
I think everybody else was okay
and I also we didn't even mention it
I love the Android uh what was it L3
oh yeah that was the chick Android right
Yeah, I love her and Landau's interaction.
Yeah.
And yeah, it might have not been a movie that we needed, but I'm really satisfied that we got it.
So I'm going to give it an 8 out of 10.
High score.
Yeah, I'm going to do, I'm going to go 7.5.
I think maybe I need to watch it again.
You know, again, I had a good time with it.
I just, there was at one point in the movie where I was like, man, this is getting really long.
And that doesn't normally happen to me in a Star Wars movie.
No kidding.
Yeah.
Hopefully the rest of them are better.
I think that they definitely suffered from having the multiple writers and multiple directors and all that shit.
So get shit together, Disney.
Nez, are you next or me?
Yeah, I'll go
I'm going to give it an 8
Because there was
Some things that I was like
Really
And some stuff that they didn't bring up
I'll get into it all
When we get to spoilers
Because like I mentioned earlier
This isn't the movie that I wanted
But I can see why
They did what they did
But yeah
For my score right now
I'm gonna give it an 8
That's strong man
Yeah
I mean I know I talked a lot of shit
about this and I mean you guys would think I was going to give it a really a really low score I was just trying to make a point but I mean I I did not enjoy it as much as I enjoyed it um unfortunately and it but it didn't crush my heart or anything like that but uh I'll give it a four give it a four out of ten for this one um I think it suffers from Star Wars uh prequelitis I think Rogue One did not I think Rogue One in my opinion would fit in perfectly and
I think a lot of that's just because it was a great movie with great acting.
Right.
Plus, it was still a piece to the story.
Well, I call this a piece, all right.
I almost call it a piece.
All right, Patrick, I guess this movie is going to be my last Jedi, you know?
But I know, I won't go lower than four.
I kind of enjoyed it.
You know, I had a little bit of fun.
It was still Star Wars.
Spoilers.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
you've been fucking warned
this is a motherfucking
spoiler alert
you've been fucking warned
this is a motherfucking spoiler alert
you've been fucking warned
besides the one I already did
I know you guys are dying to go
who's clamoring to go first
all right I'll go
when I say it is in the movie that I wanted
yes we finally got to see the Kelserang
that they've been throwing at it since the beginning
yes we got the meeting of
Chui yes we got how
Han won the Millennium Falcon
they hinted at Jabba the Hut
because
I was this is what I wanted
because when they were doing these solo movies
I had no idea this was going to be
because I know
he got he was signed
for three movies
so I assume this is going to be a trilogy now
what was happening in this film
and then I was kind of like
like, okay, so I can see why they didn't bring up Java.
They mentioned him.
Woody, yeah, Woody Harrelson, he mentioned him, Han mentioned him,
and then I'm like, all right, okay, so maybe in this next movie, we're going to see Java.
And this was all pretty much the, I was, wouldn't you guys say it was the rise of the empire,
because there was still, kind of.
And they were still building the Star Destroyers.
Because it was a scene really, you can see that there was one that they were putting together,
was pieces of them on the planet in the beginning.
I loved all the little references to other things,
to characters that you didn't even catch.
There was one character that they mentioned that,
what was Woody's character's name?
Tobias Becker.
Yeah, he had killed, what a name.
He killed a character.
She was in the Phantom Manus for like a second.
And then she popped up in one of the animated series.
I think her name was, oh, I don't know, Aurora Singh.
I think that's how you either Aurora or Aurora.
I don't know.
But anyway, there was a character that she was in, like I said,
she was in Phantom Menace and she was in the animated.
I don't know if it was Clone Wars or Rebels, one of them.
I want to say Clone Wars.
and they didn't mention that
Beckett killed her
so I was like oh cool
that that was sweet
and then there was a ton of little
Easter eggs in it
did you guys catch the idol
from Raiders of the Lost Dark?
No I didn't see it
No I didn't either
Did you catch it Brian?
Yeah I caught a glimpse
Did you?
I wasn't sure if that was it
but
It was when they were in
Wars Visions character's name
Something boss
Drayton boss
Yeah
Him
It was the member
There was all kinds of artifacts
Throughout his little meeting area
Where they're meeting it was sitting like right behind them
They never really focused in on it
But you could see it
So now I'm thinking
So is this going to be
In the
Indiana Jones realm
Because in that last one
The Kingdom of the Crystal skull
It had to do with aliens
And all that
And there is a crystal skull that was in that room as well.
You can see that one clearly.
Crystal skull.
So I'm like, what?
I mean, because yes, the writer for Raiders did do this.
So now I'm like, okay.
I thought it was awesome.
They did it.
They'll probably never tie anything into it.
Did you guys catch the small little cloud city that was in the Millennium Falcon?
No.
There was a little, like a little metal model or something.
It was on display.
Oh.
Lando did mention about how bad those mining colonies were.
Like, he was kind of like, I wouldn't do something like that.
But then you go to Empire and that's what he was doing.
Wow.
What else was there?
There was a lot of, what's his name, Warwick Davis?
I think his name was his character.
He first, that character first popped up in the Phantom Menace.
During the pod racing scene, he was hanging out with Jabba in his little, when they were watching the pod races.
And then he pops up in this.
So I'm like, cool.
I mean, well, what are you guys going to do with his character?
So, I mean, Warwick Davis, other than Kenny Baker and Anthony Daniels being in pretty much all of them,
but we did lose Kenny Baker.
Anthony Daniels was also in this.
he was the other wookie that uh really he was running around with yeah that was him um so i mean i don't know
i mean warwick davis is obviously he's willow and he did that with ron howard so it's cool that
he threw him in there um and he did get a little speaking line towards the end the the uh there was
something else um uh the master's the terra cossi thing that that was that was the um that was the video game
that came back.
He was an original PS1 game.
Okay.
What the hell was that character's name?
They mentioned her in this.
Oh, it was, um, uh, um, fucking Mother of Dragons character.
What's the fuck of the name?
Dineris?
Dera.
Yeah.
Yeah.
She was, uh, one of the characters in that video game.
Okay.
So, I mean, it was cool that they brought that in.
But I think the biggest surprise, uh, for me, and I'm sure a lot of people was,
Darth Mall popping up into this.
Right. Yeah.
What was that? I thought that was horrible when they did that.
Yes, I have a question.
When he stood up, did he have mechanical legs?
Because I thought I heard like a mechanical sound.
Okay.
Yeah, he did.
That's the first thing I looked at was when he was popped up,
was he was sitting down and at the first sound like, is his legs mechanical or are they human?
Yeah, that's from the animated series, right?
Yeah.
Yeah, you could see him.
Because after he ended up surviving that being cut in half.
Yeah.
Couldn't sew his legs back on because he had like spider legs.
Right.
And he couldn't go back like Deadpool.
I think it was Clone Wars.
He, his rise into, and the crime realm came because the Jedi, they all thought he was dead.
And then this was right around during the Clone Wars.
so while they were all,
while the Jedi's were dealing with all that,
this is, that gave,
he's not Darth anymore,
because he just,
he just left,
he's not a part of the Sith,
he's just on his own now.
And,
because his brother was the one that saved him.
And then he started his climb into the crime world,
to become this crime syndicate right now.
And that,
I was not even thinking about Darth Mall,
well,
mall now is what they call him.
So it was cool that he's coming in.
And that opens the door
up to that story of
if they want to start making more
movies, they can easily turn that
into something. Show us how
yes, we saw a little bit of it and
they mentioned it in, I think it
was Clone Wars and Rebels,
one of those stories, I get both of those shows
mixed up. But, I mean,
they could show that. They opened the door for that.
They mentioned Bosque
really quick.
And we only seen him
just like for a few seconds in Empire.
There was so much
much in this thing. I mean, other than
the stuff that I wanted to see that
they didn't show,
but now that they're obviously going to make
more of these movies, like, if they signed
them on to a three-picture deal, maybe now it's going to
be a trilogy. Well, I have a
theory on that. I think
his next
Hans Solo's next appearance will be in
the Bubba Fett movie, which will set
up the sequel to this movie.
Speaking of Fet, I mean, did you see
that Mandalorian armor
that was in
visions or whatever the
hell is Navas's little room?
No, I miss that.
It was in the background. You could see it.
How did you guys feel
about him as a villain? Because you guys
know that was originally Michael
K. Williams, Omar from the Wire,
actually filmed
that role. But
because he filmed it as a
CGI character, he couldn't make it back
for reshoot. So they just
yeah
Omar was in this movie
yeah he he was that character
but he did it in a CGI character
and wasn't able to make it back for the reshoot
so they just recasted
so how did you guys feel
about him as the villain
I thought he did a pretty good job
I don't think he had a big enough part
in the movie I forgot that he was a villain
until uh until he popped up again at the end
but I mean when he was on screen I thought he did a pretty good job
the Darth mall thing though I gotta say
that was the best thing to come out of the prequels
and I'm excited about him being in it
and he had a very snoke-like chair
just saying
the other thing that kind of made me mad about this
was I think it was made the main thing
when Han was
signing up
to be in the empire
and he all my name's Han
and what's your last name
and uh
and then some
that was stupid
he should just said yeah my name's Han Solo
and not some dumb
imperial officers the reason that they gave him
his name I thought that was like
godfather style
I was like lazy righty
and I was like come on I mean that was one
thing that they kind of pissed me off.
Other than us not seeing
some of the things I'd mentioned, but like
I said, this is obviously going to be
more than one movie, so
okay, eventually they're
going to show us that.
Paul Dentney's character,
Drayden Voss,
there is a character
called Quinlan Voss. He's the
native Jedi.
I was thinking, well, maybe they're
tied together
some way, but I did some rating.
And Lucasfilm said, no, it was just a coincidence that they had the same last name.
So I was like, fuck, man.
I was hoping for Quinlan Voss to pop up in this somewhere.
I think one of the other things that kind of pissed me off in this,
you had some big names to be some of the side characters,
and they were only in it for a minute.
John Favro's character, Rio Duran, who was amazing.
He was awesome, dead.
I was like, what?
He could have went, or even Tandy New.
her character.
That could have went to the end and then got killed.
They should have just called off the job at that point.
It wasn't worth it stealing that one thing if it was going to cause her to die.
And then like five minutes later, they're all walking.
And Woody Harrelson's like whistling and skipping, like nothing happened.
Well, I think that adds to his character, maybe she thought their relationship was more than what it was.
But to him, he was more, you know, he kept always saying, trust nobody.
Yeah, well
Yeah, at the end, man
I thought I was watching a soap opera
In the last 10 minutes of this movie
Like, fuck, man
I just didn't believe anybody
You know, I didn't, I don't know
Why they all turned on each other like that, you know
Maybe it'll all be explaining the next movie
But Woody said it
And he said, don't trust anyone
So I could see why everybody was all over the place
Because I mean, this pretty much had nothing to do
With the Empire either
It was more of just
they were all trying to get paid
I was Patrick
who'd we lose
Patrick
uh oh he must not like
what we had to say
um
another thing
the whole
the train part
this isn't a galaxy
far far away
why is there trains
how come they couldn't
haul this stuff around
in some kind of star cruiser
or something
right why was there a train
on the side of a mountain
I mean it was cool
seen but
I was said
why don't you just put it
on a spaceship and fly where you need to get, but I don't know.
Yeah, they definitely had some cargo freighters.
I mean, this is, we're in the Clone Wars right now, you know?
I did love, we got to see Chewy tear someone's arms off finally.
Yeah.
That was cool.
I like the introduction to Chewy.
I thought that that was kind of a cool scene.
Yeah, I did like that.
I mean, I kind of, when Theo and I were talking about it before anything, we're hoping,
that the feels one actually said it he said he goes well maybe um how they meet is uh chui is a
prisoner because they when they took over kashik uh when the empire took over i mean they basically
turned them all into slaves and uh it seemed it seemed like it was going to be more of the uh free-for-all
and um because it wasn't just the empire that that kidnapped them and goes i mean all those
other guys that turned them into slaves
on that one little mining thing they were doing at the end.
I mean, I thought that was cool, but I did love how they met.
I thought that was cool.
Just two strangers, and they were calling him the Beast.
And I mean, I loved it.
I mean, the guy that played Chewy, I can't remember his name.
There we go.
He did a good job.
We were talking about how amazing the last Jedi was.
Yeah, I figured.
The other thing I thought was a little cheesy,
and I think it was kind of pointless
they didn't need to
they didn't need to show it
was Han talking
Wookiee
Yeah
Yeah
That was a little much
That was the word
Where did he learn
Who Kewki anyway
I don't know
Well
I thought that
He always understands
Chewy
Right
But here's
Now he's
They've been together
For years
But here's the part
That didn't make any sense
So
He was talking
Wookie
Right
but chui can understand him
because shortly after that he just starts talking to him
yeah
you guys are gonna make me go down to three and a half here
I was like why did he just talk to him
and chui just kind of start listening to him
versus him having this whole wookie conversation
I thought that could have that was totally
unnecessary yeah
I mean he could have just told him I understand you
and that'd be fine
right exactly
because he just sounded stupid
I was like, oh, let's
I was like, why did you go do that?
Hey, Patrick, he stepped into the Star Trek universe
and grabbed a universal translator and came back.
Yeah, that's what it was.
I'm looking through the cast list.
Thandey Newton's character is listed as Val Beckett.
Okay.
Tobias Beckett's wife.
What?
Yeah.
So, I mean, if that's how I think his character was portrayed,
He is like fucking cold son of a bitch.
Sleasbag, huh?
Oh, shit.
There was another thing that kind of, um...
Oh, uh, what's the name?
Daniel Glover.
Is that his name?
Donald Glover.
Lander.
Donald Glover.
I got Cobre Cay on my mind.
But Donald Glover, um...
He was a freak, other than him being a straight.
pimp because he was banging his robot.
Yeah, I want to know how that works.
Wow.
Because she said it works.
Trust me.
Listen, if we're going to build robots,
the first one is going to be a sex robot.
Watch.
No doubt.
No doubt.
Aside from, you know, vacuuming and shit.
You could use that one.
Never mind.
Yeah.
And the whole political
background stuff with,
right.
what was his robot's name?
L337.
Yeah.
Mm-hmm.
I did like her
empower her women empowering character.
I thought that was cool.
Mm-hmm.
But it was just the
political slave type of thing
that they were trying to do
with Chui going back in
instead of Han on.
Han was like,
come on, come on,
you got to come with me.
And he kept seeing his people
that were enslaved.
I thought that was awesome.
A good thing.
And we all love Chui anyway,
but that made, for me, as a Star Wars fan,
it made me love Chewy more that he cared for his people.
He saw the enslavement that they were in,
and he went and saved them,
and then all hell broke loose after that.
But, I mean, like I said,
there was so much in this movie that can go in many directions,
which obviously Disney is doing with these films.
I mean, they can take them into directions
where it doesn't have to be the characters
that we all know
to carry
whatever movie
they decide
to choose
to choose from.
And like I said,
this wasn't a movie
about Solo.
I mean,
he was a character in it
and his name's in the title,
but it will,
there was,
they put,
they put too much into it.
With them doing,
thinking about doing a,
a Lando film,
watching it again
for the second time,
I was kind of like,
okay i mean i'm i'm sure i'm sure they'll make it to where it'll work but as a fan i'm kind of like
i don't know if i want to see i don't i'm not excited about it at all yeah no i'm not
give me more fucking if you're going to make a star wars movie give me some more jedi like
force stuff things that matter in the universe i want some bigger picture shit and i don't really
see, I mean, I'd rather see, if you're going to give me offshoots of character stories,
give me some character that we don't know hardly anything about that's not a main character.
I think the Boba Fett one's a good choice.
But, you know, give us something like that, or like, you know,
maybe a bounty hunter's tale of different bounty hunters or something or, you know,
just something that's, you know, because, you know,
there's a lot of characters that are there that aren't necessarily major plans.
but they're interesting characters.
Or I'd rather see stories on those people
that tie in somehow to the universe than necessarily
because if you're taking all the popular characters
and given the solo stories on them,
you're kind of ruining some of the characters
by doing it, I think.
Yeah.
Well, and I mean, the history of the Jedi is crazy.
There's all kinds of conflict there,
and they've never made a movie about that shit.
You know, I mean, there's 100 movies to be made about that
instead of this one guy in the universe who doesn't really matter.
Well, and I'm sorry,
Aaron.
Yeah, well, it's like with this story here,
it's like what Kevin was saying.
And one,
I didn't realize that they were planning on making it a trilogy either,
which I don't necessarily think is a good thing.
But I wanted to see,
I wanted to see the story of him and Java.
Yeah.
His dealings with Jabba.
That's the story that I thought we were going to get.
Oh.
you know, I knew the
Castle Run part would have, was going to have
to be in there and all that stuff.
I was hoping they wouldn't, but they did.
But, yeah.
A 12-46 thing.
But I would have much rather
have seen more.
He had to round down.
You know, that story where he gets in trouble with Java.
Because we don't really know that story.
Right.
You know, but I guess that's maybe a little too close to
catching up to the timeline with Harrison Ford.
Maybe that's why they, I don't know.
I guess so, yeah.
You know, but that's, to me, if I was going to see a Han Solo story, that's the story I want to see.
You know, that's the one I want to know about.
Part of, like, the Star Wars lore, you know, is this whole, you know, Kessel Run and 12 Parsecs thing.
And then Parsec is not even really a measurement of time.
No, it's a space, it's a time, it's a measurement of distance.
Right.
And they, and, and, and, and I've heard interviews and stuff where, uh, that was, that was on purpose.
He was being a cocky jackass and he's like, oh yeah, I definitely did that, you know?
Yeah, they can, they can recon it any way they want, but I mean, I think it was, I think it was just an error in the script writing to be honest with you.
Well, I'm sure, but it seems like this would, this would have been a really cool place to retcon it.
You know what I mean?
They could have, they could have had him, you know, fuck.
up the the the the the the castle run or something like that and then uh somehow pull it off at the last
second and then just start lying about it because that looks like what he was doing in the original
movie and i the fact that he did it in the 12 parsick thing i was like man they're just
taking that that error in the script and just kind of pushing it even though i guess he did it in
less of a distance because he took a shortcut but that that's a cop out to me and to me it was
kind of anti-climantic anyway.
Yeah, it totally was.
I wasn't excited about it.
What were you going to say, Naz?
It was kind of like pointless.
I mean, yes, we all wanted to see it.
And then when we finally see it,
who cares?
Yeah, I mean, that's when I was like, I mean,
we hear about it in 77.
Right.
And how many years later are we finally seeing it?
And I'm like, eh.
It's not something anybody ever wanted.
to see though it's like watching the fucking
pod races
it was almost like
they took that part of the script and it was
almost like they took that part
of the script and it was like a lightsaber
and they just threw it over their shoulder like it was
whatever
ah Jesus
here we go
the last Jedi one day is
gonna be genius watch
it was just
it wasn't the movie I wanted
because I mean there was so much they had to
throw into it
thinking it
was going to be just one movie,
then no it's going to be what they're going to do now.
Like, I wanted job.
I want to at least see him.
Yeah, they mentioned you.
I want to see him do with that.
And how they can throw another,
they can make a fourth movie if they,
if they choose to a prequel to whatever comes next.
Because in the beginning,
you got him joining the empire
fades black three years later.
Right.
What happened within those three years?
I mean, I was like, well, okay, but who cares?
We're the fucking Jedi in this movie.
That's what I want to get back to, you know what I mean?
I don't care about the Star Wars between two dudes.
Show me like the fucking force, the big powers, you know, the things that matter.
I think what they're trying to do now is to show you that there is other stuff than just the force.
I'm okay with that.
Yeah, they threw the force at us for, uh, what?
Eight, eight movies.
I mean, other than, I mean, other than Rogue One, which is a masterpiece on its own.
I mean, yes, it's in the timeline, but you can't.
Well, that was, that was my only gripe about that movie is that there was, there was, I mean, there was some force sensitive people, but there were no Jedi.
Dude, if you're going to have a Star Wars movie.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah, but you know where the Jedi were for that, because that was from the time, period,
where they had been wiped out.
And, you know, so it makes sense in Rogue One that they're not there, you know?
So, I mean, I just like to see more about it.
I mean, if you're going to make another Star Wars movie, like,
pull a plot from something that we haven't heard yet and show us some more Jedi stories,
some things that make a difference in the universe.
Because Han Solo making the Kessel.
run makes no difference in the universe.
No, we already knew it was going to happen.
Because what they did with this
film, like I said, it opened the doors
to so many other
stories of
I mean... So much more
money. Yeah, that too.
The quest for more money.
There was not
any character that was
mentioned that we didn't know.
I was
okay, bring in somebody new
that we did.
Well, other than,
what was the black girl's name
at the end when she took the helmet off?
The one that's
basically a part of the rebellion.
Right.
Oh, yeah.
I thought that was kind of cool.
I thought she was hot.
I liked her, but she looked a little too young.
I didn't want to be a dirty old man.
But I was like, oh, okay, you're throwing this character.
Now, now who is she?
And that can open up the door to another movie
or something or throw her in.
another movie and be one of the main
characters.
Yeah, because
she mentioned
her mom wore the helmet before her,
so I thought that was interesting, too.
Well, you know,
I'm not speaking of that, too, the one thing
I did, the one nice touch I did like
in the movie was that Woody Harrelson
was wearing the old costume in
Atlanta wore for Return of Jedi.
I thought that was kind of cool
that he had that on, but
I agree. I think there's
definitely some, I'd like your course,
I'm still waiting for Thron to be put in the movies
because he's just a badass villain.
I think they need to bring him in.
But it is going to be, I am.
I'd be interested in seeing the Darth Mall story.
I think that would be interesting.
I think there are some interesting things,
and maybe if they use this movie as a launch point for some other things,
that's great.
But I just think overall it was a movie that kind of was unnecessary.
The only thing I'm really excited about after watching this movie
to see what happens with Darth Mall and Amelia Clark.
And we will.
You'll see it until you're put up the face, trust me.
But if we're going to see it, I want a whole fucking movie about it.
You'll get it.
Throw it in the background of a movie that we don't fucking need.
You know what I mean?
Yeah, you'll get it.
Don't worry.
Did you guys catch two tubes?
What's that?
Did you guys catch two tubes from Rogue One?
N-uh.
He was in there.
You caught everything, dude.
Well, you are right about one thing, Nez.
They're definitely, their continuity, their research department is doing their homework.
That's for sure.
And what they're doing is just to keep it going.
Because, I mean, we're bringing out all these cameos and introducing these characters or just bring it old characters.
All right.
Yeah.
is money is greedy.
So that's what they're going to do.
That's why the next baby should be Grito, right?
Yeah.
I'm all for that too.
Yeah.
All right.
There's so much more to go into.
If you guys listen to our next East Society,
Ziso and I are going to go.
You can hear a lot of stuff that I just said,
but then you're going to hear a lot of things that he said,
and it's going to be nothing but solo on our next episode.
So check that out.
Yeah, I'm sure it'll go.
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All right.
Good deal.
Well, Kevin, Patrick,
thanks for joining us, guys.
Thanks for having me.
Thank you.
Yeah, now anybody listening knows why we cut out a lot of the middle stuff,
because we still went longer than we're supposed to do.
Of course.
And Star Wars for you.
But as always,
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1987's Robocop.
Yep. Oh, cool.
The only Robocop, right, Nez?
Yep.
All right, Patrick, until the horror returns again.
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