The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #104: The Ice Pirates (1984) & Solo: A Star Wars Story (2018) (Reupload)

Episode Date: March 26, 2023

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Starting point is 00:00:00 This is Ethan Embry and you're listening to The Horror Returns. Greetings, victims. For those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify go. Welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware of, This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language.
Starting point is 00:00:43 Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Again, it's the horror returns, and we thank you guys for joining us. I'm Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Philip. And as promised, it's going to be possibly a Star Wars. Showdown this week with our good friends Kevin and Patrick. And these two guys seem to represent polar opposites in the battle over the last Jedi. You underestimate the power of the dark side. So what do you represent, Patrick, the dark side or the light side?
Starting point is 00:01:33 You hate it. Well, the last Jedi, yeah, I didn't care for. But there's a lot of reasons that, I mean, the thing is with that movie, that movie is it it's just such a disappointment on so many levels to me and a lot of it has to do with the fact that I feel like Disney lied to us and told us we were going to
Starting point is 00:01:56 well they said that we were going to get new movies and I didn't really think that was a new movie. Alright. I've seen that movie before. Here we go. Mez, was it somewhere on your top 1000 list of the year, at least for last year?
Starting point is 00:02:12 It was number one. Yes. Tell us why, man. What made it a great film? Preach it, brother. You tell him. It was Star Wars, man. Yeah, there was a ton of problems I had with it, but it was still badass, down with the dark side.
Starting point is 00:02:31 And I don't know, man. I mean, that's a whole other show again, but I don't want to repeat on myself without him. Talked about it over and over and over. It makes sense that it was a. his favorite movie last year because it was his favorite movie 35, 40 years ago, too. Same movies. Oh, man. Ouch.
Starting point is 00:02:52 I think they're laying puzzle pieces down. It'll be a classic one day. We'll all come back to this moment and remember. I have faith. You ready to eat your words, Patrick, one day? I don't see it happening, but okay. All right. I think what they're doing, hold on, I think what they're doing now with these
Starting point is 00:03:13 supposedly one-off movies is they're just adding more to the puzzle because after this one we're going to talk about later on there's a lot of stuff in it that tied into the previous movies we've seen the prequels as well as the past and if you were a part of
Starting point is 00:03:35 Clone Wars and rebels watching the cartoons or animated ones computer animated ones there was a ton of stuff and that but we'll get to that later on yeah i'm excited about that and and to clear up to you i actually look forward to the one-offs more than i do the can't the the the trilogy stories yeah because to me those are they those are the ones that i feel like they can have a little more creative license with that's true and do because we don't you know we don't have expectations for them
Starting point is 00:04:06 like you would like you know with the trilogy movies to me i i had the expectations of those and they fell away short of anywhere to me. I really feel like they really miss the boat on what they could have done with getting the original cast back together. And I guess that's been my biggest disappointment with the, like, your Force Awakens and Last Jedi's. I feel like you had a grand opportunity. You got the original cast back together.
Starting point is 00:04:40 Right. And you just sort of shit the bed. Nez? Were they shit in the bed, Nez? Some parts. Maybe not a full shit. Maybe it's a couple little speckles, but... Yeah.
Starting point is 00:05:00 What they do with the next one? It's a turn. It's a turn. Even if it's got a couple pieces of corn in it, it's still a turn. I feel like we have to withhold our judgment a little, even though we obviously haven't, until the next movie comes out. nine, I feel like he's going to bring it together and we're going to go, oh, I get it.
Starting point is 00:05:20 Maybe. Don't get me wrong. I like the new characters. I think the new characters are cool. I just don't like how they've done what they've done with them and what they've done with the original. I just think that they've, you know, they had some good ideas,
Starting point is 00:05:34 but then they didn't execute them very well. You know, it's like they just, I don't know, I just like, oh, it's almost like they said, hey, we want to do new movies, but at the same time, We need to re-familiarize everybody with the original trilogy because for some reason they think that nobody's seen them. And so let's rehash those and start over. It's like, well, we didn't need that, you know. You could have just built on what we had.
Starting point is 00:06:01 So you were looking forward more to this one, the solo, than you were to The Last Jedi? In a way, in a way, yeah. And this one, I mean, I tried to temper my expectations because it's just like, what everybody said with this one. You know, did we really need this movie? Probably not. But, you know, I'll get into more about what I felt about it and all that. You know, as far as my expectations go,
Starting point is 00:06:29 I tried to keep them kind of even keel for this movie just because I didn't want to go in and have it, you know, just be like, oh, this is going to suck or it's going to be awesome one way or the other. I tried to be just, okay, let's just see what they give us, and then whether it's good or not and go from there. right makes sense that seems more than fair you know well we'll get into it we'll definitely definitely take more than just a bite into this movie I'm sure I've done I know Nez has a lot to say and especially the way that it fits into the overall tapestry
Starting point is 00:07:04 this should be pretty interesting talking but in the meanwhile Nez what's your cool of the week it's glorious it's glorious each and every time I watched it. Wow. I can't wait. I can't wait for season two. Sean Keenan or whatever the hell's last name is. Mike Barnes from Part 3 is coming back. And oh my God, it's going to be awesome. I want to know, is he going to still be a part of Cobra Kai or is he going to be on his own and just be on a revenge to get Daniel and then maybe Johnny will help him out. But Brian, you were talking about bringing a Chosenback. He needs his honor back.
Starting point is 00:07:47 Yeah, if he came back, the way I think they should bring him back, he should have a whole crew with him. And then Johnny and Daniel and maybe Mike Barnes join up to try to take him down or something. I mean, they can't just bring him back and him be by himself and then kick out. Because I know Chosen would be able to kick all three of their asses, but I don't know. They need to work out some kind of awesome story. If they can bring back Terry Silver, the dude that was John Crease's friend in the third movie,
Starting point is 00:08:19 if they can bring him back, oh, man, that would be glorious. I had read he had retired acting, so. Just throw a big check at him. He'll come back. Throw a big check at him. I think we need Elizabeth Shue to come back, too. Oh, I heard she's coming back for season two. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Yeah. They sort of hinted like they were going to try to get her in there. I just finished watching the 10th episode this morning. My wife and I was sitting there watching it and I was thinking, well, she's married. So how are they going to bring her? I mean, they could bring her back to just, yeah, I'm back in town because they said she's living in Denver now. And my wife was, well, I said he can't get back with Daniel. Daniel's married and who knows, maybe she'll want to get back with Johnny.
Starting point is 00:09:08 I don't know. They'll bring her back some way. Because they did throughout the show, they were hinting and talking a lot about her. So who knows? Even if she popped in for a few episodes, I'd be all for it. But Cobra Kai is my cool of the week. And if none of you guys have seen it, you have to see it. It is fucking awesome.
Starting point is 00:09:32 I haven't watched it. She sounds like a whola. What? The fuck did that come from? Was that from a karate kid movie? No. It was a fill-up quote. I was channeling my old Jewish lady.
Starting point is 00:09:48 Oh, no. Maybe I'll put it in Q behind Deadwood in Atlanta, but I ain't putting it ahead of either of those two. Oh, yeah, Atlanta. I still got to watch that. Cobra Kai, you guys are slowly talking me into it. It's the number one series in the world. What?
Starting point is 00:10:09 I don't know that that's a thing. No. It's anything that's out there. It's beating out shows on Netflix. Is this one of those stupid baseball stats where it's like he's hit the most home runs in the second inning after having two outs and he has a foot problem?
Starting point is 00:10:27 No, they said the streaming numbers are beating out on Netflix shows. Oh, wow. Wow. This is better than anything that's on TV right now, anything. Damn. He does still have to watch Cobra Kai. Sweep the leg, Johnny.
Starting point is 00:10:41 So Patrick, is that your cool of the week too? No, well, I didn't watch this last week, but I do have something related that kind of ties into my cool of the week, so I did rewatch The Grotty Kid. Is that your cool of the week? Yeah, it was on Amazon, so I popped it in the other night and watched it,
Starting point is 00:11:03 and it was kind of fun to go, because I hadn't seen it a while, but after watching the series, it made me want to go back and see it. So between the first, that and then I'm still wrapping up my rewatched Deadwood. I'm on season 3 about halfway through it
Starting point is 00:11:17 and still loving that every bit like that's got to be one of my favorite TV shows of all time just about after watching it again. It's just awesome. And Deadwood. I got a lot of shit to watch. Yeah,
Starting point is 00:11:33 it's definitely something you have to see, especially if you're fan of Westerns and whatnot. I know. Karate Kid was fun though. It was nice to go back and see it again after watching the series and all that stuff. I'll probably give the series another watch
Starting point is 00:11:47 here at some point just because it is pretty quick and easy to get through, which is kind of nice. Then my last cool of the week is I did a couple of things here. I watched the second season of the toys that made us. Nice. Oh, I didn't know there was a second season yet.
Starting point is 00:12:06 Yeah, it just came out Friday, so I watched them all Friday night. I got through the first two episodes and half of the Lego one. Damn. Yeah, I burned through all four. Yeah. Speaking of Karate Kid. Well, I've seen that one.
Starting point is 00:12:23 I've got to watch the second season, though. Okay. Speaking of you re-watching Karate Kid, I went through all three of them yesterday on Hulu, the first three. Oh, yeah. Cool as a week. Jesus. God damn, guys.
Starting point is 00:12:42 Where's Mr. Miyagi when you need him? All right, peace. Rest in peace. Well, maybe Jackie Chan can come on and reprise the roll or something. No. No. No. All right.
Starting point is 00:12:55 Would that be disrespectful? Yes. Yeah, it wasn't Jackie Chan you didn't like. It was Will Smith's kid. Right? What was the chick's name, the actress in the fourth movie? Hello, Bruce Wayne? Yeah, you think she would ever come back?
Starting point is 00:13:11 Because I don't see her in anything now. I don't know. I think she's kind of bitchies what I've heard, but I don't know if that's true or not. She didn't have nothing to do with Daniel. It was only Mr. Miyagi, so maybe no point bringing her in. Well, maybe they need to form a super team to go against Chosen. No, that's why they got Daniel's daughter, because remember she was doing the flip kicks and all that. Yeah, she'll be the next next.
Starting point is 00:13:39 Karate kid. Why is she better than Daniel? The karate grandkid. How is she better than Daniel? Because she's doing flip kicks and all kinds of shit. Mm-hmm. I don't know. I think she's going to go up against her friend, that one little chubby girl with the glasses on the cobra Kai. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:13:58 We'll see. Come on, Lance. You're Dragon, bro. You better get on it. Be one of the cool kids. Yeah, no kidding, man. All right, I'll check you out. Me too. I got to watch it. Eventually.
Starting point is 00:14:07 Yeah, YouTube bread. You get a free, your first. month's free. Yeah? Well, there's no excuse. Are they all up now, or are they still in progress? All of them. And how many episodes, 8, 10?
Starting point is 00:14:18 10. And they're a little under 30 minutes. I can knock that out during my lunch hour in one week. Yep. All right, I'll do it. Fuck it. Why not? I'll watch it.
Starting point is 00:14:32 All right, who's still got to go on Cool of the Week? I'll go, I'll go because mine's going to be quick again. I haven't had time to watch really anything. My wife has been watching younger. It's been on TV forever for the past like two weeks and I'm so tired of that show.
Starting point is 00:14:51 Never heard of it. I did also, I started Handmaid's Tale from the beginning. Watched the first couple of episodes and now I'm kind of getting into it, man. It is a pretty cool show. So we'll
Starting point is 00:15:06 see how the rest of it goes. but I'm a little excited about it now. What you got, Brian? Okay. We reviewed the trailer for The Hollow Child, so I checked that one out. Oh, yeah. Was it the camera? I said, no.
Starting point is 00:15:22 I said it was going to hang off the girl's performance, the little girl. Yeah? She wasn't creepy at all. She just, you just wanted to punch her in the face. Oh, boy. The whole movie. She was just a little brat, little kid. my next one
Starting point is 00:15:38 Nez you were right Cargo I felt really sad and depressed by the end oh yeah but I thought it was a good movie it was a different take on the zombie genre and then my last one was another
Starting point is 00:15:55 Netflix movie Family Blood it's a Blumhouse vampire movie Oh yeah This movie was boring as shit Oh no A lot of cool of the week, huh?
Starting point is 00:16:07 Yeah, out of the three, I recommend cargo. Family blood was just, I see why Blumhouse didn't go theatrical, because this was, nothing happened for 75% of the movie. Not like I stopped them before. No kidding.
Starting point is 00:16:23 No kidding. They lost me with truth or dare. Well, they can get you back, man. They'll do another good one this year. They better. So, yeah, those three movies out of the three check out Cargo on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:16:39 All right. Cargo it is. How many of you guys have seen thoroughbreds? I've seen it. I did. I haven't. Brian, you haven't checked it out yet? No, I've seen it available and I didn't have the time.
Starting point is 00:16:53 Phil? No, I hadn't seen it. I don't even know what it is. You guys are missing out. It's a really fucking interesting, bizarre movie. And, I mean, it's not like your typical horror movie, there's only like one shocking scene,
Starting point is 00:17:09 and it's at the, wouldn't you say at the very, very end, Ness? It's not a horror movie. Yeah, it's not a horror movie at all, but I thought it was. It was, to me, it was advertised as a horror movie on a lot of websites and stuff like that. The trailer was misleading. Yeah, a little bit. I liked
Starting point is 00:17:29 it. It was good. I liked all the action and the witch girl and whatever the other one. name was. I like them and I like what was going on. The witch girl, the witch girl and the ready player one girl. Yeah. Oh, that was her? Yeah. It just, it was just slow. Don't get Chekhov, man. That's right. He was in it. That was his last movie, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:17:51 Yeah. I don't think so. He played a damn good role. Yeah. It was good. It was just really slow, but overall, I did enjoy it. It was definitely a slow burn, but this, uh, the Corey Finley's the guy who wrote it in directed it and I don't see that he's got much coming up, but it was, it was just a beautifully film movie. I mean, I don't know if you guys caught some of the camera angles and some of the, the single shots as it was going through the house and stuff like that, but it seemed like this guy's got the chops to be a really good filmmaker. You know, doesn't, doesn't hurt that he had some really good young, you know, young actors in
Starting point is 00:18:28 there too, but yeah, I highly recommend third rates. What did you watch it? I just watched it at home last night I saw it in the theater Oh you did? Probably made it even better man It kind of reminded me Yeah
Starting point is 00:18:44 I mean it was a little bit What's that? It said it kind of reminded me of Heather's a little bit Heather's Did you get that vibe? A little But not too much
Starting point is 00:18:57 I don't know I just thought it was really unique I thought it was something new I thought I mean Taylor Joy was kind of doing her best Taylor Swift impression there at that time. But no, it was a good movie. Thoroughbreds. If you haven't checked it out, I'd get into it.
Starting point is 00:19:15 Definitely worth the watch. We got a few headlines this week, right, Brian? We're doing kind of a truncated show because we have a lot to talk about on the tail end. The Pet Cemetery remake is moving from April 19, 2019 to April 5th, so they're moving it up. So is that now is that going to be Netflix too or is that theatrical theatrical? The the Godzilla sequel uh Godzilla King of the Monsters is moving it back March 22nd to May 31st next year so they're putting it into the summer blockbusters oh all right having some faith in this one I hopes probably a good probably a good a good idea there
Starting point is 00:20:00 Yeah, they did that with the mummy too. Is it Is it a sequel off of that last one? Not the Shin Godzilla, the other American one. Yeah, but I've heard they're tweaking some things because obviously the first one didn't perform well enough. Because there was no Godzilla. That's why.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah, there's... Yeah, there's going to be tons of monsters. this one from what I read. Well, this is also tied in with Skoll Island, too, right? Right. Yep. Is this the one that's directed by Michael Dowardy? Yep.
Starting point is 00:20:41 They should be, could be interesting then. Yep, so we'll see. Mike Flanagan's, the Shining sequel, Dr. Sleep, gets a release date of January 24th, 2020. A little ways away. And a couple
Starting point is 00:20:58 other big announcements for movies. They've casted Ben for Chapter 2, actor who I am absolutely not familiar with, Jay Ryan. Who? What? Jay Ryan. For It Chapter 2? Yeah. I know Jay Farrow, but I've never heard of Jay Ryan.
Starting point is 00:21:18 Yeah, Jay Ryan. I looked at him. He does kind of, his face does kind of look like an older Ben. Okay. You guys remember the little chubby kid that was in the original, or not the original, know, but the movie last year. So, I don't know. I've never seen anything this guy's done.
Starting point is 00:21:40 What? We shall see. And I guess the biggest news here, tying in with the movie we're going to talk about later, the Boba Fett movie confirmed by going to be, I believe, directing and also writing James Mangold, who did Logan. Oh, no shit. Oh, wow. Okay.
Starting point is 00:22:05 So you got thoughts on that? Oh, we'll be here. Are they going to go with the Maori knife? I think, you know. Or is it going to be a black? I don't know. I mean, we'll see. I'm all for.
Starting point is 00:22:27 No. I'm sorry, go ahead. I'm all for who. I don't care who's in the suit. Just leave the helmet on. Yeah. So it doesn't really matter who it is, right? No.
Starting point is 00:22:38 Even if you can get somebody with a cool voice or whatever, but just... Don't show him in the beginning with his helmet on, then the rest of the movie, it's off. No, I want his helmet on from the beginning. You're talking about Mysterio? No, Bubba Fat. Oh, Bubba Fat. Oh, I'm sorry.
Starting point is 00:22:55 Okay, I was sidetracked. For a minute... Yeah, it's hard telling. I thought you were about Judge Dred there for a minute. I like the idea. Keep the helmet on. I think that would be cool. And plus sometime here soon,
Starting point is 00:23:12 I'm assuming they're going to announce the Obi-1 movie. Oh, boy. There's a lot of talks about that. What is the Obi- You and McGregor? Those rumors, yeah. They're saying he's getting in shape and everything, throwing the beard out.
Starting point is 00:23:28 What are they going to show? Like some phone war stuff or something? No, The adventure between after he dropped off Luke to Owen Lars and his aunt Baru. Oh, yeah. Taking you about a big fan, Lance. Oh, just keep going. I'm listening.
Starting point is 00:23:49 I'm sorry. There was rumors that the guy that played Uncle Owen, he wants to reprise his role. He's got to be four years. I'm saying, yeah. I'm saying that he should. God needs money. What are you going to do? He should get back with Obi-1 because if you guys remember, I know this is a horror podcast and we only talk about space and comic book movies.
Starting point is 00:24:16 Exactly. Cobra Cod. Yeah, that too. In the original Star Wars, not a new hope. This is when it was Star Wars in 77. We just had the anniversary the other day. when Uncle Owen is
Starting point is 00:24:34 talking to Aunt Baru and you can just see that Owen is just like mad when Luke brings up Ben
Starting point is 00:24:42 and this is what I want this is just what's in my head if they go ahead with this movie Owen joins
Starting point is 00:24:50 Ben they get into all these adventures adventures something happens to where Owen
Starting point is 00:24:56 doesn't like Ben anymore right so that's why Like that's why he was so like, ah, he's dead. Don't worry about him because he didn't want to be. Right. Okay.
Starting point is 00:25:07 Because even at Bruges said that she was like, well, he's like his dad. He's got too much of him, of his dad in him, and Uncle Owens, well, that's what I'm worried about. So I kind of think that something happened between Ben and Uncle Owen to why they don't like each other. Orwin doesn't like Ben anymore. So, but that's just in my nerd head. Right. But I'm all for it, man. E. O'O. McGregor coming back, because Ben, he's older than he was in the prequels, and I think he can do it.
Starting point is 00:25:40 I think it'll be a good story. I don't know who would direct, but I'm all for it. But wins the Garido movie. I want to know. I'm sure they're working on it. I want the Lumpy movie. Lumpy, oh, Lumpy and Nagee, man. Tobacco's son
Starting point is 00:26:02 I want his movie I want the story of the Rancor keeper I know you're going to get it you think the Rancor keeper guy you know how he cries
Starting point is 00:26:12 when the monster dies yeah I want to see that movie he's got a story to tell so is the movie taking place after I don't know
Starting point is 00:26:22 well I'm pretty even the Rancor Keeper I would say he needs to be how he meets the Rancor once yeah he can't the Rancor
Starting point is 00:26:29 I thought it was going to be a movie How he holds up after And why he had such an intimate tie to this Rancourt? It's like The Shape of Water. Right. I want a Max Rebo movie To show me how he climbs
Starting point is 00:26:47 His claim. Claim to fame. Claim to fame, yeah. He has better... Moves up the ranks from bar to bar to... You better send your ideas in now because I guarantee you that eventually they'll make every one of them.
Starting point is 00:27:01 Yep. Well, there's only so many ideas to go around, and they're making moves every year, so. Right. And that is all the news. All right. You boys ready to go down to the trailer park? You know it.
Starting point is 00:27:16 I guess so. Brian, what's the first new trailer to talk about this week? Parts Unknown, starring James Ball's Ammo, I believe it is. James Ball's Ammo. James Balls Ammo. Wow.
Starting point is 00:27:37 All right. Sure this isn't a porno? Is that his girl name? It might be. I don't know. Not after watching it. I'm not sure. Lizzie Havick and Jake the Snake Roberts.
Starting point is 00:27:49 All right. You guys, I got to go back and watch this. You guys are on your own because I watched the wrong trailer. Some motherfuckers sent me something called Handjob Cabin, and that's the one I watch. you god damn it. Really?
Starting point is 00:28:01 You guys are up. That's the one we're going to talk about. All right, let's talk about handjob cabin. What did you guys say? I think it looks awesome. I can't wait to see. Yeah, I can't wait, man. A new role for Bruce Campbell, maybe, finally, huh?
Starting point is 00:28:16 I wouldn't want to feel that death, man. Someone jerk you off until you die. You feel good in the beginning. Death by Snoo, snoo. I was just curious, I mean, is it actually going to be a movie? and someone just put a parody trailer together. I think, I've seen this before. Yeah, I have too.
Starting point is 00:28:35 I think it's just a parody trailer, but you never know. Stuff gets turned into movies all the time. All the time. So I think if it actually releases, we need to do it with one-eyed monster and do a review on it. Well, I guess we have to now.
Starting point is 00:28:53 It's horror, so... Yeah, right. All right. Parts and what did you guys? thing. I thought it was really nice for you to put your buddies movie on here, but that's not really what we're doing
Starting point is 00:29:07 on this podcast. Was it that bad? Is it like a Walking Dead ripoff or what? It looked a little raw. About as low budget as low budget gets. They're going for a grind house style movie. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 00:29:26 Which I'm all for. I like grind house. I like wrestling. There's some, look like there's going to be some gore in this, so I have no fucking clue of what the story's about, but... Oh, it looks totally insane.
Starting point is 00:29:38 But it's got to take the snake, so... It kind of reminded me of, like, an old trauma movie or something. Yeah, it did. My prediction is that it's going to be awful. Is this after? Is this after his transformation? Take the snakes.
Starting point is 00:29:57 his transformation I would I would hope so I don't want to see previous Jake the Snake Yeah I don't want to see crackhead Jake to Snake
Starting point is 00:30:11 No I don't want to hear Those stories That he didn't want to film Unless they went and got him some Or I want to hear none of those stories But I hope so
Starting point is 00:30:20 I thought we were going to talk about Like Linda the Snake Roberts And that kind of transformation I was like Oh What happened? Parts unknown, June 9th. I'm sure it'll be out there somewhere.
Starting point is 00:30:36 I'm sure it'll be on our list to watch, right? I'm sure nobody will give a shit, because this looks like it's going to go under the radar. You think? Yeah. And let's see. Our final trailer is Down a Dark Hall starring Taylor Russell, Anna Sophia Rob,
Starting point is 00:30:54 and Uma Thurman, who, I was just wondering the other. the other day. I haven't seen Uma Thurman in a while. She's... Right. We talked about two trailers in two weeks with her in it, so... Sounds like a slow trailer week to me.
Starting point is 00:31:09 Yeah, very, very slow. Directed by Ricardo Cortez. What did you guys think? Brought to you by the producers of the Twilight Saga. Yes, that's why I tapped out right there. Yeah. Not how much. Hey,
Starting point is 00:31:25 that's where I'm all about it. Oh, yeah, you're all in that. Yep, I'm on board. All right, so we're going to do this one along with Twilight, right? Oh, Jesus Christ. And lose half the listeners we work so hard to build up the past two years. People boycott our show. This looks like a movie that I would take my young daughter to watch.
Starting point is 00:31:47 Is that little girl that got her leg bit off by the shark? I don't remember that movie what it was called. Her arm. Her arm. Oh, was it her arm? Yeah, her arm. the surf movie, what was it called? Sail surfer.
Starting point is 00:31:59 Well, writer. Sol surfer, okay. Yeah, it's Anna Sophia Rob. Yeah, same girl. Wasn't she in the movie with The Rock? Disney movie? The Witch Mountain movie? I think she might have been.
Starting point is 00:32:15 I think that was her. Sounds right. The Rock's been in a lot of dumb shit. Yeah, that was pretty dumb. Yeah. There was a slap in the original one. Yeah, exactly. This looks all right.
Starting point is 00:32:32 I mean, I don't like the dark short hair the Huma Thurman has, and it just looks like another ghost story inside of a big mansion type of place. Yeah, kind of generic. I'll check it up. I didn't really give this one enough attention to be able to really give an opinion on it, but it sort of fell into the background with me. That's probably much attention you should have gave it. Yeah, it looks like it's going to be one of those movies.
Starting point is 00:32:59 movies that, you know, if you watch it, you know, a couple years down the road, somebody's like, have you ever seen this movie? And you're like, uh, I don't remember, you know, it just sort of falls into the background. Yeah. I'd go ahead. I'd movie pass it. I'd say I'd movie pass it if it's still around when it comes out. Yeah. If movie pass is still around?
Starting point is 00:33:22 Yeah. Yeah. Speaking of that, what's going on with that? People are saying it's going to shut down in like two months. Yeah, it's only got an operating capital for a month and a half or something. That's what I read last week. So we may have five weeks left, guys. We're on the countdown.
Starting point is 00:33:40 The Doom's clock. Yeah, they started doing shit that was way beyond what they should have been doing. Like, they were investing in movies. What? Yeah, and I think if you ever got like email saying, oh, you know, from movie pass, you should go watch such and such. Right, right. What was the Tanya Harding movie? I, Tanya.
Starting point is 00:34:00 I got an email from that, and then I found out they kind of like partially invested in that movie. And I'm like, you guys are doing way too much. Yeah, stick to one thing and do it right. Yeah, it doesn't sound like they have an awesome business model, but I'll take advantage of it while they give it to me. Yeah, pretty much. Use it why you can. I've said it before, and I'll say it again. if it was 1995 a month, I'd have no problem with that.
Starting point is 00:34:30 I don't know why they don't just do that. And at least, I'd do 25 a month even. Yeah. Well, if they're listening, we're fucked. Yeah. We'll have to get emails. So just for you guys. So if you have a movie pass, check out Down a Dark Hall.
Starting point is 00:34:51 There you go. But hopefully we'll possibly have a better trailer next. week I just heard today we might get the Halloween trailer with the upgrade movie that doesn't sound promising I mean I've been hearing too much really
Starting point is 00:35:05 the people that have seen it already and Halloween yeah they've already seen it yeah they had some screenings for but they were test ones so I don't know if maybe they went back
Starting point is 00:35:21 because a while ago they had a test screen and it didn't go too good but then they still had plenty of time to fix it. It's not coming out until October, but... Yeah, I heard it was the end. Was the problem. That's what I read, and they were doing... They went and did reshoots to fix the end, so...
Starting point is 00:35:39 But, you know, I have to see it first to place judgment. I don't know. Yeah. I mean, this could just be all just fake news and just to get people talking about like we are. So... Yep. Yeah, because Deadpool, too. was supposed to be the biggest piece of shit that was ever made from
Starting point is 00:35:58 previous test screenings. Really? Yeah. It was the worst movie. They got a bomb on their hands and all kinds. Just all kinds of stuff came out. And I mean, I didn't give it as high score as everybody else, but it was nowhere near a bomb. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:36:21 Definitely worth watching. Yeah. People are stupid. Continue. And that's our last trailer. All right. Well, like I said, we're trying to make this a special holiday edition. Everybody's got family in town and stuff like that.
Starting point is 00:36:37 So we're going to skip listener feedback this week. Sorry, Phil. No, it breaks your heart. But we will double down next week. So keep the feedback coming, everybody. I'll get to you. I promise. Just let us know what's up.
Starting point is 00:36:53 Leave us some feedback. and I promise I'll read it. Fuck Lance. I'm going to read it next week. We'll read all of it, right? Yep. All right, you guys are ready for some featured attractions? So we're going to check out the Star Wars films solo
Starting point is 00:37:09 as well as the 1984 sci-fi classic, The Ice Pirates. Start with the Ice Pirates trivia. Director was Stuart Refil, also known for the other sci-fi classic Mac and me. rip off of and also the Philadelphia experiment
Starting point is 00:37:30 writers also Stuart Raffell but he got some help from Stanford Sherman also known for Kroll as well as several episodes of the Adam West Batman series the film is
Starting point is 00:37:46 at first this film was intended to be serious sci-fi film with a $20 million budget but MGM came in slash that budget to $8 million and had the script rewritten as a comedy. Also, according to a crew member, the entire sound team was fired mid-production and replaced without any explanation. What? And, hey. Now, this is a great moment in a particular actor's history.
Starting point is 00:38:13 I think he chose very wisely. Kevin Costner turned down the role of Jason. So there you go. It's so fitting. But anyway, the Ice Pirates, 1984. It's 80s. So, Nez, you go first, man. Well, first of all, why did you pick this movie?
Starting point is 00:38:38 I picked it. I remember it from... I watched this movie quite a bit when I was a kid. I had it on VHS, and it just had to do with space pirates and stealing shit. so that's why I went with it. Why not? You can't go wrong with Robert Eurek, Spencer for hire. He was badass in this.
Starting point is 00:39:08 I actually seen this in the theater when it came out. I know the anniversary was back in March. This was a movie that my cousin, he loved SWAT, and Robert Yurek was on that. So he was like, hey, let's go see this. And he loved the Michael D. Roberts, Roscoe. I can't remember what he was in before this film. I know he did TV and some other movies, but he was like, let's go see it.
Starting point is 00:39:36 I had no idea what it was. Like, this was, what, mid-80s maybe, early to mid-80s. And it was the time when it was all the movies, like sci-fi movies coming. I mean, after Star Wars hit and everything, and other than. Star Trek, you had all these sci-fi movies that came out. And I could see, I had no idea that they wanted to make this a serious movie.
Starting point is 00:40:02 It probably would have sucked because pretty much every movie, almost every sci-fi movie, not talking about Star Wars or Star Trek, it was all kind of like all the same. And we had Battle Beyond the Stars. We had Space Hunter, Space Raiders,
Starting point is 00:40:18 and just a crawl, you mentioned earlier, which is an amazing film. I love that film. you had all those type of style of movies and this this was the days of if you made a movie everything went to the theater so right right i pretty much seen all those movies that i had mentioned in the theater and so i was expecting okay another sci-fi movie right on it looks cool and then when we saw it i had no idea it was going to be uh it is a cult classic if you follow me on instagram i was down of sacramento and i I found an old beta tape, which was Ice Pirates. And I thought that was crazy that, then, yeah, we're going to talk about Ice Pirates. And I was like, whoa. Oh, no, beta.
Starting point is 00:41:02 But I don't have a beta player. And for you younger listeners, if you don't know what beta is, you can Google it and learn about it. But anyway, the movie, we watched the movie. I laughed my ass off. I've seen it multiple times in the theater. I had it on VHS. And when it did the cable run, Showtime, HBO, whatever it was, I watched it, like all the time. I had to watch the little crappy one
Starting point is 00:41:25 that was on YouTube with the little the screen, the actual movie was in like in the left hand corner. And there was like these stars or something zinging by. I think that's how they got away by putting it free on YouTube.
Starting point is 00:41:41 But this movie, it's funny. It's 80s. It's cheese. It's stupid. You did have some faces in it. You had Ron Perlman. You had Angelica Houston. Other than Robert Urick. And it was hilarious, man. Yes, it's like considered just B-style stupid 80s, and that's what I love.
Starting point is 00:42:00 And I love this movie. I mean, everything about it was hilarious. It's like I said, it's stupid fun and stupid comedy, and that's what made it good. I love this film. Patrick? Yeah, this movie is kind of a, I kind of like Brian. I remember watching this a lot as a kid. It was one of those staples that was on like HBO or something like that,
Starting point is 00:42:24 that they used to watch just all the time just because it seemed like every time we turn TV on it was on. So I enjoy it from that aspect. I will say this, I haven't seen I haven't seen a movie rip off as many Star Wars scenes from the original trilogy since The Last Jedi.
Starting point is 00:42:45 Oh, no. I have to bring you back off. Damn. This guy, dude. I'll give you credit in just being relentless And it was fun. I mean, it's super cheesy. I mean, the effects are terrible, all that stuff.
Starting point is 00:43:03 It does have a pretty interesting cast. One of the guys in it, the guy that played Killjoy, I don't know if you all recognized him or not, but he was also, he was, what's his name from Gunies? He was Sloth. Oh. And I recognize him from one of my. Dunstim.
Starting point is 00:43:24 Yeah. I recognize him from one of my favorite comedies from way back today, a movie called Caveman. Yeah. He was the main bad guy in Caveman, too. I thought that. That was pretty funny. That was a good movie. What team did he play for?
Starting point is 00:43:44 It was John Matusak. I don't know what team. I think he was the Bears or something like that. I'm not sure exactly. I got it right here in front of me. He played for the Raiders. The Raiders, yeah. Well, other than the Raiders, he was on another team.
Starting point is 00:43:57 I can't remember, though. He was on the Oilers and what? Yeah, he was on the old. Yeah, the Chiefs. He played for the Chiefs for a year. Yeah. Okay. Redskins.
Starting point is 00:44:10 He played a two-time Super Bowl champ. Yeah. He was in the movie, North Dallas 40. That's a football player, too. Damn. Art of his life, huh? Yeah, he was actually. in more stuff than I realized he was in as far as an actor goes.
Starting point is 00:44:28 But no, I mean, the movie itself was fun for what it was. I mean, you know, it's pretty ridiculously bad on the effects and everything like that. You could obviously tell the it was low budget and some of the jokes that are pretty, pretty terrible. But as a kid, I loved it. But I mean, it was just one of those. I remember always watching as I got older. I was like, yeah, it's definitely not, doesn't hold up from what it used to be. but it's still some good 80s cheese.
Starting point is 00:44:58 So I was not going for it. I don't know, man. I felt like as far as 80s cheese goes, dude, this, I was expecting just a shitstorm when I watched this. And I was like, the ass pirates. What the fuck are we watching the ass pirates for? And I started watching it, man, and it totally grew on me. I'd never heard of this movie.
Starting point is 00:45:20 And I watched it. and I kind of loved it, man. It was hilarious. It was so stupid. It's one of those where it's kind of so bad that it's good, but it's... Right. Yeah, it's not even really that bad. It's just cheesy.
Starting point is 00:45:38 But they have, like, there's a scene where, you know, they are going to castrate them with like these Mouser-looking chombers, right? And then when they get saved from it and they have... have to pretend like they've been castrated. So when they talk... Right. They talk very hot bitch like this. Yes.
Starting point is 00:46:00 Yes, ma'am. I mean, I'm there. I don't know. I thought it was... I had a blast watching this movie. I thought it was really going to suck. And I was surprised at how much I enjoyed myself. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:15 It's been a while for me, but this movie kind of holds up in a certain way. I laughed. I mean, there's so much shit. in here as a kid that I like, I mean, the dude that's just ahead, he has an entire army of Wonder Woman. Wonder Woman with, with fucking unicorn.
Starting point is 00:46:34 Make a deposit thing. Did you, did you catch that line? I was like, what is he asking him to do? You know what he was asking him to do, man. And the, the thing that I really like is they really kept it like a pirate movie, even though it was in space
Starting point is 00:46:52 throughout the movie from the way that they dressed. You know, they still had swords. And even the little scene when they're looking for the guy to help find the princess's father, you know, it kind of looked like a scene out of a pirate movie. You've got the chicks fighting, people drinking, you know. I like they just kept it pirate throughout the movie. And this movie, I don't know. It still holds up for me.
Starting point is 00:47:19 Yes, it is cheesy, but I'm sure. you're going to bring us down here. They gave this maybe the wrong name. It's not the ice pirates. It's not the ass pirates. The way you fuckers are talking, it should be called the goddamn Kool-Aid pirates because that's what you fucking idiots are all drinking.
Starting point is 00:47:39 Are you guys out of your goddamn minds? The fucking costumes looked like they were all fucking extras that they just pulled off whatever back lot they could sneak in and steal the costumes out of. Fucking fake swords, half pirate, half space, just garbage, man. The acting was terrible. The plot line was horrible.
Starting point is 00:47:57 Patrick, you kept bringing up on the internet. You kept trolling me and saying, Space herpes, space herpy. Yeah, that joke was funny the first 27 times they used it. But fun, guys. You guys really enjoyed this. Wow.
Starting point is 00:48:11 Oh, I definitely enjoyed the space herpy. I thought that was hilarious. You had Kung Fu fighting robots. Go on. And space herpes. Yeah, those are. robot those robots made that beady, bitty, bitty robot from
Starting point is 00:48:26 Buck Rogers looked like fucking artificial intelligence from the 28th century. You had the black robot with soul. That's it. That's the only thing I did like, that's the only thing I did appreciate this movie is that they didn't, they didn't
Starting point is 00:48:42 worry about political correctness with any of their jokes. That was 84. That was refreshing. That was refreshing in light of what we get now. But I mean, fuck, trying to think if there was any saving grace here i can't think of one being crosby's daughter who was in it she she was hot other than that that's about it that there was the one scene i totally was just it did the the love scene yeah oh passion storm or whatever yeah that was awesome i definitely
Starting point is 00:49:15 expected i definitely expected more i expected more out of angelica houston and ron perlman i'll tell you that. I think they were wasted in this. I want to make love like that when water crashing. Listen, if you can do it and then there's a waterfall, you're doing it right. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:49:36 You didn't like the final battle where they'd slip in due time every 10 seconds and the elders are fighting. There's a baby that pops up. And then of course everything was instantly fixed perfectly, right? Where none of
Starting point is 00:49:51 it happened. They never strayed off course through the time. Yeah, they didn't explain that before they went in. Oh, okay. All right. Yeah, you're right. It's a 10 now. Sorry. And you had Roscoe watching his afro go from
Starting point is 00:50:05 dark to grade to like Cottonball White. Wow. Maybe if I'd been smoking something while I was watching it would have been different, but I watched it at work. I think they were smoking something when they made it. Oh, they were smoking
Starting point is 00:50:22 They were smoking something They were snorting something I guarantee you I know where about 7 and a half million Of that 8 million dollar budget went Oh man This movie is glorious man
Starting point is 00:50:35 I mean I loved it I mean It was kind of a fresh A Fresh Movie that I totally forgot Forgot Forgotten about
Starting point is 00:50:44 Yeah Yeah we're doing ice pirates I was like Hell yeah Damn If we're gonna do a bad Star Wars parody, you could have at least done
Starting point is 00:50:52 space balls or something, Brian. We'll get there. I'm sure it's going. Give it time. Give it time. All right. Everyone's done baseballs. How many people have done ice pirates? Well, I'll do it again. I'm glad I watched. I never would have seen this otherwise. So, yeah,
Starting point is 00:51:10 if you haven't seen ice pirates, man, go check it out. It's pretty fucking funny. All right. How old are you, Phil? I'm 35. Brian? I'll be 38 next month. All right. See, Lance and Patrick, we're all pretty much the same age. I mean, this is when we were teenagers, and this movie's awesome.
Starting point is 00:51:32 I don't know where you were, Lance, but, man. I was watching Pink Floyd the Wall and the Rocky Horror Picture Show at midnight. I wasn't watching this kind of shit. They're probably showing this movie at midnight. They probably are. If they're not, they should be. Patrick, did you see this? theater? No, I didn't.
Starting point is 00:51:52 I caught it when it hit cable. It was on, because we, I don't know. I remember what it was, but I remember it showing up on like HBO or Cinemax or something like that. And I used to watch it all the time and it was on there, but I didn't get to see it at the theater. What do you guys think for scores? Nez?
Starting point is 00:52:16 Oh, 10 all the way. Whoa. Give a serious score, man. Which board style? Man, dude, this one's 10. I love it. Wow. Well, I don't think it's quite a 10, but I do have some love for it for nostalgia reasons.
Starting point is 00:52:33 But for me, it's about a 5.5. But it's still fun to watch just for what it is. Yeah, it is super cheesy. But I enjoy to have some good memories for it, so I'll give that 5.5. That's probably a realistic score. I'm going to give it a seven because I had a really good time watching it. Wow. It was just, it was way better than what I expected.
Starting point is 00:53:01 I really expected this thing to suck. I was like thinking about all kinds of ass pirate jokes that I could throw out there. And I forgot about them. You can still do it. I just, well, I was trying to think of them. And then I just got caught up in the movie. And, you know, there's space herpes. Yeah, I mean, it's better than Last Jedi.
Starting point is 00:53:23 for sure. That's right. Even Kevin thought so. He gave it a 10. Well, listen, something like this goes on a different rating scale than like a legit movie.
Starting point is 00:53:35 Okay? This is so bad. It's good. Seven, it's fun. Kind of like the Thor movie, the rock and roll nightmare movies, huh? Exactly. Like the rock and roll nightmare movies.
Starting point is 00:53:46 I thought you're talking about Thor Ragnarok, which I rewatched, by the way. Amazing. Maybe one of my best Marvel movies. ever. Wow. Well, you have the majority. I'm going to go seven and a half. I love this movie. It's very
Starting point is 00:54:03 nostalgic for me and as Philip was given his score, I just purchased the Blu-ray on Amazon. Bam. Wow. With the special features. The making of the space herpy. Right. The Blu-ray, I'm sure you can see the strings, huh?
Starting point is 00:54:20 and now it'll be glorious oh there was definitely a scene where you could tell there was a string on it and they were just pulling it to me one and a half what ouch yep y'all ready to move on bye bye man is better than this one no i can get bye by by man like a half or something okay that's fair definitely better than bye by man Hell no, tan all the way. I just ordered mine as well right now. I didn't even know it was on Blu-ray.
Starting point is 00:54:54 No. I didn't even know this movie was on Blu-ray. Hell yeah, I just bought it. You'll probably just double their sales. They'll probably want to come on to do an interview on our podcast now. They might. Fucking 1984. What else are they doing?
Starting point is 00:55:09 Stuart Riffbill, the director and writer. Is he still alive? Let's see. We ought to reach out to him. born in 1942 in the UK who's going to reach out to him Brian you going to I'll find them you know that dude I got on Twitter in 1944 any of you listeners out there that have seen this movie and love it please comment on the page and let us know what you think
Starting point is 00:55:35 and all of you that hate it suck it all right you heard it here first three out of four recommend this one right or wait three out of five three out of five right no I gave it a five I gave it a five and a half I'd still recommend watching it if you've never seen it all right
Starting point is 00:55:57 just don't go in expecting a masterpiece but it is funny it is a masterpiece no end expecting shit and then and then be just blown away like excited about it you know I don't know I don't know where I was going
Starting point is 00:56:11 with that it probably trying to make an aspirate joke. All right. We ready for the big one? Yep. Writers were Jonathan and his father, Lawrence Kasden. And Kasden, of course, was also known for writing some of the best movies ever.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Return of the Jedi and Raiders of the Lost Ark among Lawrence Kasden's writing credits. Phil Lord, most people know this story, I think. Phil Lord and Christopher Miller, weren't they the Lego movie guys, Brian? Yep. They left this film in June of 2017, only three weeks away from finishing principal photography. Apparently, they clashed throughout the entire production process with Kathleen Kennedy, as well as Lawrence Kousden and other Lucas film members over the direction and tone of the film. Miller and Lord had been encouraging improvisation and making an overall comedic film against Kaston's wish.
Starting point is 00:57:11 eventually they stepped away due to that famous quote creative differences this is interesting the film has marked the first time an Academy Award winning director has ever made a Star Wars film that's strange
Starting point is 00:57:26 kind of thought there would have been by now but I guess that's it first time so solo Patrick how does it compare to Last Jedi well I have to say I enjoy it more than I did Last Jedi for sure.
Starting point is 00:57:43 I didn't it didn't blow me away like when I went to see you know like Rogue 1 since that was the first arrive I come out of that movie just like man
Starting point is 00:57:52 that movie was awesome yeah me too this movie this movie was good I didn't hate it I wasn't blown away by it but I thought it was pretty good for what it was
Starting point is 00:58:04 it's just I don't know I guess I guess I guess because I had my expectations kind of tempered that, you know, I know, I, there wasn't anything in it to me that made me go, ooh, man, this is like fantastically great. But I enjoyed watching it, you know, so, I mean, it was a good, solid movie overall.
Starting point is 00:58:26 You know, it didn't hurt the franchise any, I don't think. But it just wasn't as thrilling to me as what I got out of some of the other movies. But definitely wasn't an improvement on Last Jedi to me. I'll go last. Go ahead. Oh. I had a lot of fucking fun watching this movie. I thought the cast did fine.
Starting point is 00:58:53 It was a lot of callbacks. There was some surprises popping up in the movie. Chubaka was the fucking man in this movie. And I loved every minute of it. And I really want to go back for a second viewing in the theater. I had so much fun with this. I can't wait to get into spoilers because I don't know how to really talk about it
Starting point is 00:59:18 without even just dropping anything that was in the movie though So Phil Yeah I had fun with it Is it something that we needed? Probably not I think that there were a lot of references For the sake of references You know what I mean?
Starting point is 00:59:36 And they were cool Like don't give you wrong I was excited when I saw these things and I was like, oh yeah, okay, cool. But it wasn't anything really spectacular. They didn't, you know, break down any, they didn't really give you any new information or any of that.
Starting point is 00:59:58 It's probably not going to hurt the franchise. It was fun to watch, but it was kind of just okay to me. Like I liked it, but it wasn't, It wasn't what I wanted out of a Star Wars movie. Interesting. It was my turn?
Starting point is 01:00:17 Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, I mean, you guys knew how I felt going into this. You guys know what my worries were and my concerns about this. And, you know, I felt the same about Avengers Infinity War, remember? Brian, what were you thinking I was going to say about Infinity War, man? It was garbage.
Starting point is 01:00:38 It was overhyped. Right. Yeah, and then I get in there, and it's some of the best writing of any superhero movie ever, in my opinion. And it was, I think I gave it a nine. It was like one of my favorite films of the year so far, if not my favorite. It's pretty awesome. You know?
Starting point is 01:00:58 This one, my only concern about all this was like, you know, do they, I didn't think it was going to be bad. I was just thinking, do they really need to go back and, you know, tell all this story about this mysterious character that, you know, in my mind, I kind of wanted to keep some of his backstory mysterious. You know, I wanted Han Solo to be Han Solo. We don't know exactly, you know. And unfortunately, this time around, it wasn't knowing Avengers Infinity War for me. That's for damn sure. But a couple of things I'll say about it, like as far as overall without getting any spoilers. Number one, it was exactly what I thought it was going to be in the fact that it told a whole bunch of stuff that I didn't really need to know. It filled in a lot of gaps that could have
Starting point is 01:01:49 been left unfilled. It was just kind of a waste of two hours and 15 minutes of my life, quite frankly. What did surprise me is I really kind of thought the, I didn't know what to expect with the new guy, but I thought with the rest of the cast was pretty strong, and I thought the, acting was going to be good? Not so. Not so at all. I thought everybody in this was fucking horrible. I thought some of the worst, most bland, wooden performances ever.
Starting point is 01:02:17 Woody Harrelson was terrible. Thandie Newton was terrible. And I didn't believe anybody. I didn't understand anybody's motivations for doing what they did. Amelia Clark, God bless her for being the Mother of Dragons, but she ain't no great actress, man. She is smoking hot, though. She's okay
Starting point is 01:02:36 She's okay Donald Glover man He did not bring it for me He was not He was Donald Glover is not My Landau Calrizy And I'm just not smooth Enough for me boys
Starting point is 01:02:47 I gotta disagree with that one And then Fannie Newton Why the fuck would she blow herself up Just stop the Doing what you're doing Everybody get off the guy Goiler alert Come back
Starting point is 01:02:57 Oh shit Oh no Did I just do that Oh man I'm talking Ah crap I'll have to go back in That's just shit the bed.
Starting point is 01:03:06 You know what? I have shit the bed because this movie, in my opinion, shit the bad. I fucking hated it. I didn't hate it. I didn't hate it. It wasn't, ah, it's hard to describe without spoiling, but just things that didn't need to be told, I thought. And I'm going to go way on the limb here, guys. I'm going to piss everybody off now.
Starting point is 01:03:24 If I'm going to go here, I'm going to go all the way. Yeah, Academy Award winning Ron Howard. I'm going to say it here right now. Ron Howard is a fucking hack. Ron Howard is a fucking hack. The best movie that he ever directed was the first movie he ever directed Night Shift back in 1982
Starting point is 01:03:43 about using a fucking mortuary and turning into a prostitution ring. That was a movie. He picked this up from somebody else, man. I mean, he was... The movie was already done and he had to fix it. You know what? I'm not letting him off the hook. The fucking Da Vinci Code movie,
Starting point is 01:04:03 are goddamn horrible. The books are fantastic. The Dan Brown books are awesome. He does such a horrible job with these films. Frost Nixon, boring. Rush boring. Apollo 13, not... I'm a space nut.
Starting point is 01:04:19 I didn't like it. Far and away, what the fuck was that? Backdraft, terrible. This guy's a goddamn hack. Get him out of the industry. Just fucking go-make movies with Clint Howard. I'm done. Whoa.
Starting point is 01:04:31 You leave Clint. Howard alone. Clint Howard's fine. Who's next? What are we doing? He's done? A tirade. Yeah, I'm done.
Starting point is 01:04:40 I'm done. All right. This is why I'm going to say Lance is a hack. This movie was glorious. Glorious. Ron Howard is an awesome director. Everything he's done has been good. He always uses the great and legendary Clint Howard, who was in this as well.
Starting point is 01:05:02 Because Clint Howard. Howard was not in this movie. We were going to riot and burn down the castle. This isn't the Hans Solo that we all know in love. That's, it's not a spoiler. He did an all right job, but I think this movie wasn't just, yes, it's titled Solo, but this wasn't about him. There is so much in this movie. If you're not familiar with the animated series and, and, you're don't know the other movies front to back. A little bit of the video games.
Starting point is 01:05:37 I want to say the Masters of Terracasi. What else? What else? This also ties into another franchise of movies that has nothing to do with Star Wars, which I was blown away by, and I was awesome. We'll get to that in spoilers. Chewy fucking ruled this movie. Lando.
Starting point is 01:06:00 Donald Glover, he ruled this movie. It was glorious. She was all right. I mean, I never really thought she was good in anything. I thought she ruined the character as Sarah Connor. But Woody, he's in a quiet taste. I can take them or leaving. Tandy Newton, she's all right.
Starting point is 01:06:28 I mean, I do like her in Westworld. Yeah, she's good. in Westwood? Who else? Who else? And there was a lot of cameos from other actors in this. Oh, Paul Bettney. Vision?
Starting point is 01:06:43 Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was a good character. The story wasn't what I wanted, but I can see what they were trying to do because with Disney in control now and all these other single movies that they're going to do, this movie is going to
Starting point is 01:07:00 it gets spent off in all kinds of directions so I think it was it was definitely worth the price of admission and what they're trying to do later on with the Star Wars films or even as well if they're going to go into the TV series that John Favreau's
Starting point is 01:07:17 doing. I have no idea about the new trilogy that that one Rain Johnson or whatever hell his name is is going to do but this movie was awesome. I went in there not like okay. I mean, I was excited at Star Wars and I was like, I still wasn't like
Starting point is 01:07:35 100% behind it. I was kind of like, I mean, if you guys listened to the East Society in the very beginning when they were having the problems with the directors and everything, we were kind of like, is this going to be a train wreck? Is it going to be just shit? No, I was fucking, I was wrong on everything.
Starting point is 01:07:53 Yes, there was some things that they showed us, but there was some things that they didn't show, but when we get to spoilers... Like what? I mean, what? What did they not show? Nez? Come on. There was a lot of stuff they didn't show. They hinted at it, but they didn't show it. When we get to spoilers. But overall, man, this movie was badass.
Starting point is 01:08:13 I saw it twice already. I'm going for a third time in a few hours. Well, enjoy, man. Enjoy. I love it. I mean, this was a Star Wars movie. I'm glad you did. It was fucking awesome. Yeah, the main actor, I was worried he was worried he was. was going to have trouble because he doesn't look anything like the real Han Solo. I thought he was fucking channeling Jack Nicholson more than anybody else half the time.
Starting point is 01:08:35 He looked like Jack Nicholson from The Shining. I got that too because he was okay. I mean, he, yeah. Terrible, man. He didn't look like him. Horrible. His voice was too high and it was just like, that's why I was thinking this isn't a movie about him because they threw too many any other characters in it.
Starting point is 01:08:56 And like I said, with all these other directions that it can go. So I wasn't really focusing on him too much because he was all right. I mean, just I kind of got that idea with the trailers because I was like, I'm not buying this kid. I don't even know who this guy is. Maybe I've seen him in something else and I just didn't notice. But for me, I think I just mainly wanted to see Donald Glover's performance. I wanted to see if he could at least do Billy D some justice. And I thought he did.
Starting point is 01:09:27 I mean, I thought he sounded like him. He didn't really look like him, but he kind of did. But he did have that little Lando, that little Billy D's smoothness. That flare, yeah, he definitely got a flare to him, I'm sure. I'm glad you guys got that out of him because I didn't. Well, Lance, I think with where you're coming from, I think he did, I think he did Lando fairly well. But the problem I had is that there was no, I mean, in granted, it wasn't a story about Lando, but
Starting point is 01:09:58 to me it's like they didn't really explain much about him or why he was there other than he was there. Don't worry, they will. They will. Yeah, I'm sure they will. But you know what I'm saying? I mean, that's with me. I mean, I think his performance was okay, but it just wasn't grounded
Starting point is 01:10:14 in any kind of story. So it was kind of hard to follow with it because he was just there on on screen. He wasn't, there wasn't much of a story to make you, okay, this is why this is going on or whatever. or why Orlando is even here. And I think that's what made his performance seem kind of weak
Starting point is 01:10:31 because it wasn't grounded in anything. Yeah, it seemed like it was rushed. I mean, they tried to feed so much to us that they were like, okay, here's this person, here's this person. Yeah, it did. And now we're going to fall up. That's what I mean, that's what I was kind of like, okay. I mean, it was over two hours.
Starting point is 01:10:49 I think it could have went longer if they were just slowed their role and concentrated on the actual solo character. They didn't do that. What I wanted was a more of a, let's see where he came from. He just kind of mentioned, oh, well, I was here and that was it. This is where I grew up. I was hoping they would show that. And just give us a little, like a little flashback of when he was a kid or whatever,
Starting point is 01:11:15 and then how he was raised and then to where he is. Because we didn't get that. We didn't, the Hansel that we all know and love, Harrison Ford, he's this badass scoundrel fucking he shoots first and we didn't get that we didn't get that in that we didn't get any of that in this
Starting point is 01:11:34 I'm like come on are you gonna show us why he's the badass he is it seems like he was just a normal guy and then okay we're gonna throw you in this battle with these gangster with these little criminals
Starting point is 01:11:48 and that was it because that's what I was saying it wasn't a movie about him it seemed to be about everyone else well they're trying to make him a like a marvel superhero because they've done so well with that shit lately and uh so you know they take each character and do and give you like an origin story that you don't necessarily need because in in the star wars universe dude han solo is cool but he's not really he doesn't really matter that much i mean he he had a he had a pretty big part with luke but he had a bit he had a he had a pretty big part as a side character to Luke, you know? He's not a main character in himself enough to warrant a whole movie about him. But again, though, having said that, I still think that I had fun during this movie.
Starting point is 01:12:39 I liked, I liked Lando. I thought he did a great Lando. And I wasn't super disappointed. I just wasn't, it didn't like hit me in the face and go, oh my God, Star Wars. it was amazing, you know? Right. Like I wanted it to do. Yep, same here.
Starting point is 01:12:59 Y'all ready for scores? Patrick? Yeah, I'm ready. I guess I'm first. For me, I've only seen this movie once, and my score probably changed. It might actually go up a little bit if I see it the second time,
Starting point is 01:13:12 which I do plan on doing. For me right now, it's sitting at about a six and a half. Ouch. That's not too bad. You know, I honestly, it probably... Nothing wrong with that.
Starting point is 01:13:24 I would probably say it's probably more of like a seven, seven and a half, but I want to watch it again because I'm sure there's some stuff I might have missed out on. But one of the problems I had with this movie, too, and this really isn't the movie itself as far as the story ending goes. It's just how fucking dark it was. It's like, God damn, you can hardly see anything at the time. Yeah. And I hate that.
Starting point is 01:13:51 It's like, you know, brighten it up a little bit. give me some so when I can actually see something because I felt like I'm watching it through freaking tinted glasses or something and so that I that was and like you said that's nothing on the movie itself or content wise it just just seems like sometimes they film these movies so damn dark
Starting point is 01:14:10 you can't even hardly tell what's going on now but yeah I think on a second viewing I would probably maybe give a little bit better rating but for me right now I'm sitting at a six and a half which I said I enjoyed it I didn't hate it it just it just didn't blow me away you know I wasn't ooh and in awe and I think
Starting point is 01:14:34 you know as Star Wars fans maybe that's kind of what we expect out of Star Wars movies and I think at some point we just you know because Disney's going to be cranking these out every year and especially with some of these solo movies and I don't mean solo as in solo I mean, as in Star Wars
Starting point is 01:14:54 Story movies, they're not all going to be epic, fantastic movies, or just not. And I think you're just going to have to be happy that you're getting them. You know? Yeah, it is another Star Wars movie. I mean, because it can be a lot worse.
Starting point is 01:15:09 They could do a lot worse movie. They could give us Last Jedi again. Jesus. Oh, here we get us. No, but in all seriousness of this, I mean, really, it's not these movies, I mean, there's going to be something that are going to be really good
Starting point is 01:15:24 and there's going to be some that are just going to be okay. I think that's just how it's going to be. And, you know, that being said, you know, in that sense, maybe you just appreciate that you're getting a Star Wars movie, you know, versus a hello kidding movie or something dumb or whatever. But, you know.
Starting point is 01:15:43 My little pony. Yeah. Emotions. But at the same time, you know, I think you're going to get some of, Like I mean, like I said, I loved Rogue One. That movie, to me, that's like the second or third best Star Wars movie I've seen, period, out of all of them. And that one blew me away, and I totally wasn't expecting it from it.
Starting point is 01:16:06 But these other ones, you know, I think with the, like you said, with the trilogy movies, I build those up a little bit more because I expect more out of them because they're actually part of the continuation of the story. whereas these are one-offs and they've got a little more liberty because there's no expectations from us on them other than that they fit into the canon. So I think that's kind of it with me. So I think overall, you know, I think it was a decent movie,
Starting point is 01:16:36 but it just didn't blow me away. And it also wasn't the story that I was expecting or would have liked. So there's that too, which I'll get more into that in spoilers. but yeah that's my score for now six and a half Brian is it next or me I'll go
Starting point is 01:16:59 I'm gonna give it an 8 I have a lot of fun with this I love Lando I loved chewy I think everybody else was okay and I also we didn't even mention it I love the Android uh what was it L3 oh yeah that was the chick Android right
Starting point is 01:17:19 Yeah, I love her and Landau's interaction. Yeah. And yeah, it might have not been a movie that we needed, but I'm really satisfied that we got it. So I'm going to give it an 8 out of 10. High score. Yeah, I'm going to do, I'm going to go 7.5. I think maybe I need to watch it again. You know, again, I had a good time with it.
Starting point is 01:17:46 I just, there was at one point in the movie where I was like, man, this is getting really long. And that doesn't normally happen to me in a Star Wars movie. No kidding. Yeah. Hopefully the rest of them are better. I think that they definitely suffered from having the multiple writers and multiple directors and all that shit. So get shit together, Disney. Nez, are you next or me?
Starting point is 01:18:13 Yeah, I'll go I'm going to give it an 8 Because there was Some things that I was like Really And some stuff that they didn't bring up I'll get into it all When we get to spoilers
Starting point is 01:18:28 Because like I mentioned earlier This isn't the movie that I wanted But I can see why They did what they did But yeah For my score right now I'm gonna give it an 8 That's strong man
Starting point is 01:18:41 Yeah I mean I know I talked a lot of shit about this and I mean you guys would think I was going to give it a really a really low score I was just trying to make a point but I mean I I did not enjoy it as much as I enjoyed it um unfortunately and it but it didn't crush my heart or anything like that but uh I'll give it a four give it a four out of ten for this one um I think it suffers from Star Wars uh prequelitis I think Rogue One did not I think Rogue One in my opinion would fit in perfectly and I think a lot of that's just because it was a great movie with great acting. Right. Plus, it was still a piece to the story. Well, I call this a piece, all right. I almost call it a piece.
Starting point is 01:19:25 All right, Patrick, I guess this movie is going to be my last Jedi, you know? But I know, I won't go lower than four. I kind of enjoyed it. You know, I had a little bit of fun. It was still Star Wars. Spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. you've been fucking warned
Starting point is 01:19:44 this is a motherfucking spoiler alert you've been fucking warned this is a motherfucking spoiler alert you've been fucking warned besides the one I already did I know you guys are dying to go who's clamoring to go first
Starting point is 01:20:02 all right I'll go when I say it is in the movie that I wanted yes we finally got to see the Kelserang that they've been throwing at it since the beginning yes we got the meeting of Chui yes we got how Han won the Millennium Falcon they hinted at Jabba the Hut
Starting point is 01:20:20 because I was this is what I wanted because when they were doing these solo movies I had no idea this was going to be because I know he got he was signed for three movies so I assume this is going to be a trilogy now
Starting point is 01:20:36 what was happening in this film and then I was kind of like like, okay, so I can see why they didn't bring up Java. They mentioned him. Woody, yeah, Woody Harrelson, he mentioned him, Han mentioned him, and then I'm like, all right, okay, so maybe in this next movie, we're going to see Java. And this was all pretty much the, I was, wouldn't you guys say it was the rise of the empire, because there was still, kind of.
Starting point is 01:21:05 And they were still building the Star Destroyers. Because it was a scene really, you can see that there was one that they were putting together, was pieces of them on the planet in the beginning. I loved all the little references to other things, to characters that you didn't even catch. There was one character that they mentioned that, what was Woody's character's name? Tobias Becker.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Yeah, he had killed, what a name. He killed a character. She was in the Phantom Manus for like a second. And then she popped up in one of the animated series. I think her name was, oh, I don't know, Aurora Singh. I think that's how you either Aurora or Aurora. I don't know. But anyway, there was a character that she was in, like I said,
Starting point is 01:22:03 she was in Phantom Menace and she was in the animated. I don't know if it was Clone Wars or Rebels, one of them. I want to say Clone Wars. and they didn't mention that Beckett killed her so I was like oh cool that that was sweet and then there was a ton of little
Starting point is 01:22:17 Easter eggs in it did you guys catch the idol from Raiders of the Lost Dark? No I didn't see it No I didn't either Did you catch it Brian? Yeah I caught a glimpse Did you?
Starting point is 01:22:30 I wasn't sure if that was it but It was when they were in Wars Visions character's name Something boss Drayton boss Yeah Him
Starting point is 01:22:46 It was the member There was all kinds of artifacts Throughout his little meeting area Where they're meeting it was sitting like right behind them They never really focused in on it But you could see it So now I'm thinking So is this going to be
Starting point is 01:23:01 In the Indiana Jones realm Because in that last one The Kingdom of the Crystal skull It had to do with aliens And all that And there is a crystal skull that was in that room as well. You can see that one clearly.
Starting point is 01:23:18 Crystal skull. So I'm like, what? I mean, because yes, the writer for Raiders did do this. So now I'm like, okay. I thought it was awesome. They did it. They'll probably never tie anything into it. Did you guys catch the small little cloud city that was in the Millennium Falcon?
Starting point is 01:23:41 No. There was a little, like a little metal model or something. It was on display. Oh. Lando did mention about how bad those mining colonies were. Like, he was kind of like, I wouldn't do something like that. But then you go to Empire and that's what he was doing. Wow.
Starting point is 01:24:01 What else was there? There was a lot of, what's his name, Warwick Davis? I think his name was his character. He first, that character first popped up in the Phantom Menace. During the pod racing scene, he was hanging out with Jabba in his little, when they were watching the pod races. And then he pops up in this. So I'm like, cool. I mean, well, what are you guys going to do with his character?
Starting point is 01:24:25 So, I mean, Warwick Davis, other than Kenny Baker and Anthony Daniels being in pretty much all of them, but we did lose Kenny Baker. Anthony Daniels was also in this. he was the other wookie that uh really he was running around with yeah that was him um so i mean i don't know i mean warwick davis is obviously he's willow and he did that with ron howard so it's cool that he threw him in there um and he did get a little speaking line towards the end the the uh there was something else um uh the master's the terra cossi thing that that was that was the um that was the video game that came back.
Starting point is 01:25:07 He was an original PS1 game. Okay. What the hell was that character's name? They mentioned her in this. Oh, it was, um, uh, um, fucking Mother of Dragons character. What's the fuck of the name? Dineris? Dera.
Starting point is 01:25:23 Yeah. Yeah. She was, uh, one of the characters in that video game. Okay. So, I mean, it was cool that they brought that in. But I think the biggest surprise, uh, for me, and I'm sure a lot of people was, Darth Mall popping up into this. Right. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:40 What was that? I thought that was horrible when they did that. Yes, I have a question. When he stood up, did he have mechanical legs? Because I thought I heard like a mechanical sound. Okay. Yeah, he did. That's the first thing I looked at was when he was popped up, was he was sitting down and at the first sound like, is his legs mechanical or are they human?
Starting point is 01:26:02 Yeah, that's from the animated series, right? Yeah. Yeah, you could see him. Because after he ended up surviving that being cut in half. Yeah. Couldn't sew his legs back on because he had like spider legs. Right. And he couldn't go back like Deadpool.
Starting point is 01:26:19 I think it was Clone Wars. He, his rise into, and the crime realm came because the Jedi, they all thought he was dead. And then this was right around during the Clone Wars. so while they were all, while the Jedi's were dealing with all that, this is, that gave, he's not Darth anymore, because he just,
Starting point is 01:26:42 he just left, he's not a part of the Sith, he's just on his own now. And, because his brother was the one that saved him. And then he started his climb into the crime world, to become this crime syndicate right now. And that,
Starting point is 01:26:54 I was not even thinking about Darth Mall, well, mall now is what they call him. So it was cool that he's coming in. And that opens the door up to that story of if they want to start making more movies, they can easily turn that
Starting point is 01:27:10 into something. Show us how yes, we saw a little bit of it and they mentioned it in, I think it was Clone Wars and Rebels, one of those stories, I get both of those shows mixed up. But, I mean, they could show that. They opened the door for that. They mentioned Bosque
Starting point is 01:27:25 really quick. And we only seen him just like for a few seconds in Empire. There was so much much in this thing. I mean, other than the stuff that I wanted to see that they didn't show, but now that they're obviously going to make
Starting point is 01:27:42 more of these movies, like, if they signed them on to a three-picture deal, maybe now it's going to be a trilogy. Well, I have a theory on that. I think his next Hans Solo's next appearance will be in the Bubba Fett movie, which will set up the sequel to this movie.
Starting point is 01:28:02 Speaking of Fet, I mean, did you see that Mandalorian armor that was in visions or whatever the hell is Navas's little room? No, I miss that. It was in the background. You could see it. How did you guys feel
Starting point is 01:28:18 about him as a villain? Because you guys know that was originally Michael K. Williams, Omar from the Wire, actually filmed that role. But because he filmed it as a CGI character, he couldn't make it back for reshoot. So they just
Starting point is 01:28:34 yeah Omar was in this movie yeah he he was that character but he did it in a CGI character and wasn't able to make it back for the reshoot so they just recasted so how did you guys feel about him as the villain
Starting point is 01:28:49 I thought he did a pretty good job I don't think he had a big enough part in the movie I forgot that he was a villain until uh until he popped up again at the end but I mean when he was on screen I thought he did a pretty good job the Darth mall thing though I gotta say that was the best thing to come out of the prequels and I'm excited about him being in it
Starting point is 01:29:18 and he had a very snoke-like chair just saying the other thing that kind of made me mad about this was I think it was made the main thing when Han was signing up to be in the empire and he all my name's Han
Starting point is 01:29:38 and what's your last name and uh and then some that was stupid he should just said yeah my name's Han Solo and not some dumb imperial officers the reason that they gave him his name I thought that was like
Starting point is 01:29:52 godfather style I was like lazy righty and I was like come on I mean that was one thing that they kind of pissed me off. Other than us not seeing some of the things I'd mentioned, but like I said, this is obviously going to be more than one movie, so
Starting point is 01:30:08 okay, eventually they're going to show us that. Paul Dentney's character, Drayden Voss, there is a character called Quinlan Voss. He's the native Jedi. I was thinking, well, maybe they're
Starting point is 01:30:24 tied together some way, but I did some rating. And Lucasfilm said, no, it was just a coincidence that they had the same last name. So I was like, fuck, man. I was hoping for Quinlan Voss to pop up in this somewhere. I think one of the other things that kind of pissed me off in this, you had some big names to be some of the side characters, and they were only in it for a minute.
Starting point is 01:30:49 John Favro's character, Rio Duran, who was amazing. He was awesome, dead. I was like, what? He could have went, or even Tandy New. her character. That could have went to the end and then got killed. They should have just called off the job at that point. It wasn't worth it stealing that one thing if it was going to cause her to die.
Starting point is 01:31:10 And then like five minutes later, they're all walking. And Woody Harrelson's like whistling and skipping, like nothing happened. Well, I think that adds to his character, maybe she thought their relationship was more than what it was. But to him, he was more, you know, he kept always saying, trust nobody. Yeah, well Yeah, at the end, man I thought I was watching a soap opera In the last 10 minutes of this movie
Starting point is 01:31:35 Like, fuck, man I just didn't believe anybody You know, I didn't, I don't know Why they all turned on each other like that, you know Maybe it'll all be explaining the next movie But Woody said it And he said, don't trust anyone So I could see why everybody was all over the place
Starting point is 01:31:53 Because I mean, this pretty much had nothing to do With the Empire either It was more of just they were all trying to get paid I was Patrick who'd we lose Patrick uh oh he must not like
Starting point is 01:32:03 what we had to say um another thing the whole the train part this isn't a galaxy far far away why is there trains
Starting point is 01:32:15 how come they couldn't haul this stuff around in some kind of star cruiser or something right why was there a train on the side of a mountain I mean it was cool seen but
Starting point is 01:32:25 I was said why don't you just put it on a spaceship and fly where you need to get, but I don't know. Yeah, they definitely had some cargo freighters. I mean, this is, we're in the Clone Wars right now, you know? I did love, we got to see Chewy tear someone's arms off finally. Yeah. That was cool.
Starting point is 01:32:44 I like the introduction to Chewy. I thought that that was kind of a cool scene. Yeah, I did like that. I mean, I kind of, when Theo and I were talking about it before anything, we're hoping, that the feels one actually said it he said he goes well maybe um how they meet is uh chui is a prisoner because they when they took over kashik uh when the empire took over i mean they basically turned them all into slaves and uh it seemed it seemed like it was going to be more of the uh free-for-all and um because it wasn't just the empire that that kidnapped them and goes i mean all those
Starting point is 01:33:27 other guys that turned them into slaves on that one little mining thing they were doing at the end. I mean, I thought that was cool, but I did love how they met. I thought that was cool. Just two strangers, and they were calling him the Beast. And I mean, I loved it. I mean, the guy that played Chewy, I can't remember his name. There we go.
Starting point is 01:33:47 He did a good job. We were talking about how amazing the last Jedi was. Yeah, I figured. The other thing I thought was a little cheesy, and I think it was kind of pointless they didn't need to they didn't need to show it was Han talking
Starting point is 01:34:04 Wookiee Yeah Yeah That was a little much That was the word Where did he learn Who Kewki anyway I don't know
Starting point is 01:34:15 Well I thought that He always understands Chewy Right But here's Now he's They've been together
Starting point is 01:34:21 For years But here's the part That didn't make any sense So He was talking Wookie Right but chui can understand him
Starting point is 01:34:29 because shortly after that he just starts talking to him yeah you guys are gonna make me go down to three and a half here I was like why did he just talk to him and chui just kind of start listening to him versus him having this whole wookie conversation I thought that could have that was totally unnecessary yeah
Starting point is 01:34:49 I mean he could have just told him I understand you and that'd be fine right exactly because he just sounded stupid I was like, oh, let's I was like, why did you go do that? Hey, Patrick, he stepped into the Star Trek universe and grabbed a universal translator and came back.
Starting point is 01:35:08 Yeah, that's what it was. I'm looking through the cast list. Thandey Newton's character is listed as Val Beckett. Okay. Tobias Beckett's wife. What? Yeah. So, I mean, if that's how I think his character was portrayed,
Starting point is 01:35:27 He is like fucking cold son of a bitch. Sleasbag, huh? Oh, shit. There was another thing that kind of, um... Oh, uh, what's the name? Daniel Glover. Is that his name? Donald Glover.
Starting point is 01:35:50 Lander. Donald Glover. I got Cobre Cay on my mind. But Donald Glover, um... He was a freak, other than him being a straight. pimp because he was banging his robot. Yeah, I want to know how that works. Wow.
Starting point is 01:36:06 Because she said it works. Trust me. Listen, if we're going to build robots, the first one is going to be a sex robot. Watch. No doubt. No doubt. Aside from, you know, vacuuming and shit.
Starting point is 01:36:19 You could use that one. Never mind. Yeah. And the whole political background stuff with, right. what was his robot's name? L337.
Starting point is 01:36:33 Yeah. Mm-hmm. I did like her empower her women empowering character. I thought that was cool. Mm-hmm. But it was just the political slave type of thing
Starting point is 01:36:45 that they were trying to do with Chui going back in instead of Han on. Han was like, come on, come on, you got to come with me. And he kept seeing his people that were enslaved.
Starting point is 01:36:56 I thought that was awesome. A good thing. And we all love Chui anyway, but that made, for me, as a Star Wars fan, it made me love Chewy more that he cared for his people. He saw the enslavement that they were in, and he went and saved them, and then all hell broke loose after that.
Starting point is 01:37:13 But, I mean, like I said, there was so much in this movie that can go in many directions, which obviously Disney is doing with these films. I mean, they can take them into directions where it doesn't have to be the characters that we all know to carry whatever movie
Starting point is 01:37:32 they decide to choose to choose from. And like I said, this wasn't a movie about Solo. I mean, he was a character in it
Starting point is 01:37:43 and his name's in the title, but it will, there was, they put, they put too much into it. With them doing, thinking about doing a, a Lando film,
Starting point is 01:37:55 watching it again for the second time, I was kind of like, okay i mean i'm i'm sure i'm sure they'll make it to where it'll work but as a fan i'm kind of like i don't know if i want to see i don't i'm not excited about it at all yeah no i'm not give me more fucking if you're going to make a star wars movie give me some more jedi like force stuff things that matter in the universe i want some bigger picture shit and i don't really see, I mean, I'd rather see, if you're going to give me offshoots of character stories,
Starting point is 01:38:31 give me some character that we don't know hardly anything about that's not a main character. I think the Boba Fett one's a good choice. But, you know, give us something like that, or like, you know, maybe a bounty hunter's tale of different bounty hunters or something or, you know, just something that's, you know, because, you know, there's a lot of characters that are there that aren't necessarily major plans. but they're interesting characters. Or I'd rather see stories on those people
Starting point is 01:39:01 that tie in somehow to the universe than necessarily because if you're taking all the popular characters and given the solo stories on them, you're kind of ruining some of the characters by doing it, I think. Yeah. Well, and I mean, the history of the Jedi is crazy. There's all kinds of conflict there,
Starting point is 01:39:19 and they've never made a movie about that shit. You know, I mean, there's 100 movies to be made about that instead of this one guy in the universe who doesn't really matter. Well, and I'm sorry, Aaron. Yeah, well, it's like with this story here, it's like what Kevin was saying. And one,
Starting point is 01:39:37 I didn't realize that they were planning on making it a trilogy either, which I don't necessarily think is a good thing. But I wanted to see, I wanted to see the story of him and Java. Yeah. His dealings with Jabba. That's the story that I thought we were going to get. Oh.
Starting point is 01:39:53 you know, I knew the Castle Run part would have, was going to have to be in there and all that stuff. I was hoping they wouldn't, but they did. But, yeah. A 12-46 thing. But I would have much rather have seen more.
Starting point is 01:40:07 He had to round down. You know, that story where he gets in trouble with Java. Because we don't really know that story. Right. You know, but I guess that's maybe a little too close to catching up to the timeline with Harrison Ford. Maybe that's why they, I don't know. I guess so, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:24 You know, but that's, to me, if I was going to see a Han Solo story, that's the story I want to see. You know, that's the one I want to know about. Part of, like, the Star Wars lore, you know, is this whole, you know, Kessel Run and 12 Parsecs thing. And then Parsec is not even really a measurement of time. No, it's a space, it's a time, it's a measurement of distance. Right. And they, and, and, and, and I've heard interviews and stuff where, uh, that was, that was on purpose. He was being a cocky jackass and he's like, oh yeah, I definitely did that, you know?
Starting point is 01:41:00 Yeah, they can, they can recon it any way they want, but I mean, I think it was, I think it was just an error in the script writing to be honest with you. Well, I'm sure, but it seems like this would, this would have been a really cool place to retcon it. You know what I mean? They could have, they could have had him, you know, fuck. up the the the the the the castle run or something like that and then uh somehow pull it off at the last second and then just start lying about it because that looks like what he was doing in the original movie and i the fact that he did it in the 12 parsick thing i was like man they're just taking that that error in the script and just kind of pushing it even though i guess he did it in
Starting point is 01:41:42 less of a distance because he took a shortcut but that that's a cop out to me and to me it was kind of anti-climantic anyway. Yeah, it totally was. I wasn't excited about it. What were you going to say, Naz? It was kind of like pointless. I mean, yes, we all wanted to see it. And then when we finally see it,
Starting point is 01:41:59 who cares? Yeah, I mean, that's when I was like, I mean, we hear about it in 77. Right. And how many years later are we finally seeing it? And I'm like, eh. It's not something anybody ever wanted. to see though it's like watching the fucking
Starting point is 01:42:19 pod races it was almost like they took that part of the script and it was almost like they took that part of the script and it was like a lightsaber and they just threw it over their shoulder like it was whatever ah Jesus
Starting point is 01:42:31 here we go the last Jedi one day is gonna be genius watch it was just it wasn't the movie I wanted because I mean there was so much they had to throw into it thinking it
Starting point is 01:42:47 was going to be just one movie, then no it's going to be what they're going to do now. Like, I wanted job. I want to at least see him. Yeah, they mentioned you. I want to see him do with that. And how they can throw another, they can make a fourth movie if they,
Starting point is 01:43:03 if they choose to a prequel to whatever comes next. Because in the beginning, you got him joining the empire fades black three years later. Right. What happened within those three years? I mean, I was like, well, okay, but who cares? We're the fucking Jedi in this movie.
Starting point is 01:43:24 That's what I want to get back to, you know what I mean? I don't care about the Star Wars between two dudes. Show me like the fucking force, the big powers, you know, the things that matter. I think what they're trying to do now is to show you that there is other stuff than just the force. I'm okay with that. Yeah, they threw the force at us for, uh, what? Eight, eight movies. I mean, other than, I mean, other than Rogue One, which is a masterpiece on its own.
Starting point is 01:43:56 I mean, yes, it's in the timeline, but you can't. Well, that was, that was my only gripe about that movie is that there was, there was, I mean, there was some force sensitive people, but there were no Jedi. Dude, if you're going to have a Star Wars movie. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, but you know where the Jedi were for that, because that was from the time, period, where they had been wiped out. And, you know, so it makes sense in Rogue One that they're not there, you know? So, I mean, I just like to see more about it.
Starting point is 01:44:28 I mean, if you're going to make another Star Wars movie, like, pull a plot from something that we haven't heard yet and show us some more Jedi stories, some things that make a difference in the universe. Because Han Solo making the Kessel. run makes no difference in the universe. No, we already knew it was going to happen. Because what they did with this film, like I said, it opened the doors
Starting point is 01:44:53 to so many other stories of I mean... So much more money. Yeah, that too. The quest for more money. There was not any character that was mentioned that we didn't know.
Starting point is 01:45:12 I was okay, bring in somebody new that we did. Well, other than, what was the black girl's name at the end when she took the helmet off? The one that's basically a part of the rebellion.
Starting point is 01:45:24 Right. Oh, yeah. I thought that was kind of cool. I thought she was hot. I liked her, but she looked a little too young. I didn't want to be a dirty old man. But I was like, oh, okay, you're throwing this character. Now, now who is she?
Starting point is 01:45:39 And that can open up the door to another movie or something or throw her in. another movie and be one of the main characters. Yeah, because she mentioned her mom wore the helmet before her, so I thought that was interesting, too.
Starting point is 01:45:56 Well, you know, I'm not speaking of that, too, the one thing I did, the one nice touch I did like in the movie was that Woody Harrelson was wearing the old costume in Atlanta wore for Return of Jedi. I thought that was kind of cool that he had that on, but
Starting point is 01:46:10 I agree. I think there's definitely some, I'd like your course, I'm still waiting for Thron to be put in the movies because he's just a badass villain. I think they need to bring him in. But it is going to be, I am. I'd be interested in seeing the Darth Mall story. I think that would be interesting.
Starting point is 01:46:33 I think there are some interesting things, and maybe if they use this movie as a launch point for some other things, that's great. But I just think overall it was a movie that kind of was unnecessary. The only thing I'm really excited about after watching this movie to see what happens with Darth Mall and Amelia Clark. And we will. You'll see it until you're put up the face, trust me.
Starting point is 01:46:58 But if we're going to see it, I want a whole fucking movie about it. You'll get it. Throw it in the background of a movie that we don't fucking need. You know what I mean? Yeah, you'll get it. Don't worry. Did you guys catch two tubes? What's that?
Starting point is 01:47:12 Did you guys catch two tubes from Rogue One? N-uh. He was in there. You caught everything, dude. Well, you are right about one thing, Nez. They're definitely, their continuity, their research department is doing their homework. That's for sure. And what they're doing is just to keep it going.
Starting point is 01:47:33 Because, I mean, we're bringing out all these cameos and introducing these characters or just bring it old characters. All right. Yeah. is money is greedy. So that's what they're going to do. That's why the next baby should be Grito, right? Yeah. I'm all for that too.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Yeah. All right. There's so much more to go into. If you guys listen to our next East Society, Ziso and I are going to go. You can hear a lot of stuff that I just said, but then you're going to hear a lot of things that he said, and it's going to be nothing but solo on our next episode.
Starting point is 01:48:13 So check that out. Yeah, I'm sure it'll go. long. We're exactly just in case anybody's listening that hasn't heard E-Society, where are you guys at? We can find us on iTunes or Podbean. Just look up a Skaternes
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Starting point is 01:48:51 Well, Kevin, Patrick, thanks for joining us, guys. Thanks for having me. Thank you. Yeah, now anybody listening knows why we cut out a lot of the middle stuff, because we still went longer than we're supposed to do. Of course. And Star Wars for you.
Starting point is 01:49:07 But as always, we want to thank everybody for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. email us, horror returns at gmail.com, or reach out to us through Facebook or whatever. Next week, we're going to review Upgrade and go back and, Brian, you're going to let us do
Starting point is 01:49:26 1987's Robocop. Yep. Oh, cool. The only Robocop, right, Nez? Yep. All right, Patrick, until the horror returns again. May the Schwartz be with you and good. And watch out for space herpes.

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