The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #107: The Year In Horror 1978 - The Manitou, Piranha & Martin (Reupload)

Episode Date: September 6, 2023

The acclaimed host of Gruesome Magazine and Horror news Radio, Doc Rotten, joins us to talk a little 1978. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

I used to use it as a threat to my daughters. You know what? When they do something, when they do something, they'd be it. You better fucking guard will the pips. They never do that I was fucking. I swear the guy's the truth. I used to use it as a threat.

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Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. All right, welcome back one and all to the horror returns. I'm Lance, and with me as always, co-host Brian. Philip is running a little late, but he will be here. But here's what's really cool joining us tonight is a big fan favorite. of myself and Brian going back several years. It's Doc Rotten himself from Horror News Radio and Grusome magazine. Doc, what's new at Grusome, man?

And where can we find you if we don't know who you are? Of course, if you listen to us, you probably do. Well, I appreciate that. Thank you very much. Yeah, you can find me at HoronNewsradio.com and gruesomemagizing.com where we have like all kinds of podcasts, including the decades of horror podcast where we do the 70s and 80s and classic air

and all kinds of things. Occasionally we cover some of the TV shows. You know, we're getting ready to do Castle Rock. That's going to be fun. Oh. Nice. And what's up with Grusom Magazine? Well, Gruson Magazine is basically, you know, our home

where we put all our podcasts at and we throw some news in there and we have some contests and articles here and there. It's kind of a little community, you know, mostly for the reviews, but we kind of shifted our reviews to being audio as well. That's where the Grusome Magazine podcast kind of came about. It just, you know, having the conversation, we just find more enjoyable than just, you know, reading somebody's thoughts. It's more about the experience.

and it's the opinions, right? Yeah, for sure. And you've followed you on Facebook. You've been quite the conventioneer lately, haven't you? Oh, yeah, yeah. We went to Days of the Dead in Charlotte just recently, and that was a lot of fun. Our newest host, Vanessa, showed up.

She also goes by Scarlet Spitfire, and she showed up as Ashy Slashy with the chainsaw and the gun and everything. and man, she was a big hit, and yeah, she does a great, great job at that. She also does other ones. She was at, what, Free Comic Day. She did the Wasp, and man, she did a great job with that. It was amazing.

Awesome. That's pretty timely with a new movie coming out, huh? Oh, yeah, yeah, it was all about the Avengers, of course. Awesome. And Domino, too. There was another one there as Domino from, you know. Oh, yeah. All right, man.

We start the show with a little segment that we call cool of the week. So as our guest, Doc, we want to ask you first, other than the features that we're covering, what's the coolest thing you've seen or even read this week? You're covering Hereditary, and I just got to say how much I love that film. For me, it's one of the best of the year. That and A Quiet Place, which one's going to win? Oh, yeah. Which one? It's a toss-up right now. I don't know. I think I love it more on the technical side, though. You know, I just love what the director put into it, and that was a blast.

But one of the things that I have is a movie pass. Do you guys have a movie pass? Yes. You bet your ass would, too. Let's hope it stays afloat. Yeah, yeah, I think they have. You know, they just announced they had like $3 million, and they're getting into actual distribution.

So they're going to be around a little while longer, so I'm abusing the hell out of it as long as I can. and I went and saw Oceans 8 and I saw Hotel Artemis. Okay. And I love those. I went and saw Tag at a press screening. Yeah. Because my wife wanted to see.

I know it's a lot of horror. I know you guys, hey, let's bring the horror guy on. He's going to talk about Tag. But it was a blast. Yeah, very much so. Movie-wise, in horror, I've been doing some stuff for Bruce and Magazine. But last week, they weren't so good. I'm not going to mention.

Oh, no. We also do our not so cool of the week sometimes. Oh, not so cool of the week. Oh, my God. I don't want to do that. Okay. All right, Brian. Bring it on, man.

I don't really have anything this week. I did re-watch the Golden Child this morning. Eddie Murphy? Yeah. Oh, shit. Really? Yeah. That's awesome.

I remember loving that film. it came out and then I watched it again like years later and I went what the hell but I was like I love the movie yeah I mean I mean on a nostalgic basis it's it kind of holds up for me because I was a big Eddie Murphy fan but it's it when you watch it

now it's not a great movie and it's it's crazy to think that he he turned down a Star Trek role oh really this movie yeah because they thought this was going to be a franchise oh man I should I should I should have known that one. But yeah,

busy, busy work week, so that's pretty much all I had. All right. Well, you remember, Brian, a couple of months ago,

you had us watch a trailer for a really bizarre-looking movie called, Bitch? Yes. You remember that one? Mariana Polka, I think,

is the, she stars in it, she wrote it and directed it. Pretty, pretty cool little hour and a half movie actually it's on uh it's on netflix now so i checked it out and um it's it's definitely bizarre the ending it has kind of you know i hate to spoil it too much but this isn't really spoiling it but it kind of has one of those art house endings where like you're supposed to

determine what you think happens next and i don't not the biggest fan of that but the but the movie itself had a lot of things to say about uh gender roles in marriage and you know like sometimes we you know, we're the guys, we're the ones who sometimes act like the dogs. How come we call the woman the bitch, you know, that type of thing? So it's definitely worth an hour and a half and it's on Netflix, so check it out. Jason Ritter and Jamie King are pretty good in it too. So cool of the week, bitch. Hey, can I add one more?

Yeah, sure. Oh, awesome, awesome. Westworld. I'm watching that on HBO. Are you guys into that? I'm a little bit behind, man. I'm about four. I haven't seen the one where they go into Samurai World.

So I'm what, about three or four behind? Yeah, you're about three or four behind. Yeah. The latest one was remarkable. It might have been the best. It's definitely the best of the season, but it might have been best of the show. Yeah. Really, really remarkable episode.

I'm a little bit of it. But, yeah, I'm a less world nut. I love it. Nice. So, West War, you're all caught up then. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Do you guys cover that on any of the podcast?

No, we don't because I'm the only one watching it. Oh, all right. What can you do? All right. Well, that's the cool of the week. So, Brian, we got any horror headlines this week? Let's see. Season two of Roger Kirkman's Outcast will premiere July 20th on Cinemax.

Never seen that one either, guys. You've got me at a disadvantage twice here. I enjoyed the first season. I probably have to re-watch the first season. It's been a while since it premiered. So I know there was some delay on season two. And I heard it was already available if people can search for it. But I'll probably just wait for the premiere, July 20.

Yeah. So this is that demon possession or something like that? Yeah. I did this before. I can't ever, I can't ever remember the actor's name. He was from Almost Famous. He played the kid. Oh, the Little Reporter Kid. No idea who that is. I can't remember you. A little reporter kid from Almost Famous. Yeah, well, he's grown up now. He's pretty good in it. It has a lot to do with, like, exorcism and demon possessions. Definitely. If anybody gets a chance, check it out.

I think it's worth to watch. All right. I enjoyed the first season of it. Yeah. A little bit of news for you, Lance. Platinum Dunes and Tyler Perry are teaming up for a fatal attraction-esque drama or thriller called I Am Yours. Oh, I can't wait. Tyler Perry, sign me up, man.

is Medea going to show up, though, with a 357 magnum? That's all I want to know. Well, I know that that happens they have your money. Yes. Let's see. James Wan and Amlin Studios are going to remake Arachnophobia. I heard about that. Doc, what are your thoughts, man?

You know, I'm usually down for remakes when nobody else seems to be. Right. But this one, this one, I'm not, I don't know. I'm trying to figure out how they would approach this now because that movie was totally all over the place. I remember loving it the first watch. And there's another one where you watch it again going, what happened? But, you know, if James Wan's involved, I'm interested. So we'll see what happens.

James Wan, seems like a strange choice for that movie, Brian. Yeah, he seems to be attaching his name to a lot of projects, though. I'm not sure if this is going to be him directing, because he's producing a lot of stuff. So I guess we'll have more on that when more news comes out. And finally, Ewan McGregor will play Danny Torrance and Mike Flanagan's Doctor Sleep, which is the sequel to The Shining. Interesting.

I don't know about that. What do you guys think about that choice? I have not seen the, or I have not read the book, so I don't know where the character went after The Shining. So you read the book, didn't you? I have read the book. I have read the book. And that's not who I visualized. Not at all.

Yeah, it's going to be interesting to see how they approach the book because it's a sequel to the book, not the movie everybody knows from, you know, Stanley Kubrick. So, you know, probably be a weird blend of the two jumping into that story. But I like the casting. I mean, Ealing McGregor is a fun cast, so, you know, it's caught my attention. You think he can pull it off then?

Oh, I think so, yeah. And then Mike Flanagan behind the camera. Yeah, I'm sold already, so didn't mind. Yeah, anything Stephen King, I'm going to check out. Anyway, is it going to be a Netflix movie, Brian? As far as I know, I don't think so. From what I understand, this is theatrical. Really? Okay.

Yeah, because when I hear Mike Flanagan and Stephen King together, it's usually a Netflix joint, right? It has been. Yeah, lately. Yeah, he's got that show, he's got a show coming out this fall on Netflix. The Haunting of Hillhouse? Oh, I heard about that. So that's going to be pretty awesome.

What do you think? Do you have any inside scoop on that one? Me, the only inside scoop I, is one of my friends who moved down to Atlanta is in two episodes. Really? Yeah, Katie Carpenter. Let's see how she did. So is that, as far as you guys know, is that, is that on track to like premiere sometime this year? Or is it like for next year

Or do you guys have any idea? Yeah, the last I heard it was going to be October. October, okay. Subject to change, as they say. Yeah, pretty good timing though, right? Mm-hmm. And that is all the news. All right.

It's cool. So, Doc, we're going to take you on a little trip, man. I know you guys are living the high life over there at Horror News Radio and probably don't make it down to the slum. with us around here too much, but we're going to take you with us down to the trailer park. Okay. We're going to do what we do, and we bring you the big, the small, and the very, very weird. Brian, what's the first new trailer to talk about this week?

The first one we're going to talk about is The Little Stranger, starring Domhaw-Lieson, Ruth Wilson, Charlotte Rampling. I guess we know what you think about it, and Will Poulter. Directed by Lenny Abramson, which was the director of the room, or room. Not the room. Not the room. Not the room. Not somebody else. Yes. That would be awesome in a very unusual way, but yeah. So what did you guys think? Doc, you're our guest, man. I'm going to let you go first.

Oh, you're going to let me go first. All right. Well, I'm in. This is, it feels very Gothic and kind of like, kind of like the others in a way, as far as atmosphere, not necessarily the story, but the tone. I like Dom Hall-Greason, and it feels like an A-24 film in a way, and maybe it is even, I don't know. Could be. Yeah, it feels hammerish in a bit. I'm, I like these, I like these kinds of friends. Right. Cool.

Yeah. No fucking interest whatsoever. It's like the most boring piece of shit I've ever seen a trailer for. Fuck this shit. Philip, what do you think? Man, I'm a little stranger. We got a little stranger here, Philip. A little stranger.

I'm late to the party, and my intention was to watch the trailers before we started this. So, I have no opinion on it at all. Okay, past. All right. It comes down to you, Brian. Yay, or not? I'm, I'm, I'm, kind of in. I like Domhaw Gleason.

I like Will Porter. Sometimes. If everybody remembers, he was originally cast as Penny Wise. So, I don't know. I kind of like a good period piece horror movie every now and then. So I'll probably check it out.

Is he the weird kid from that comedy? Jennifer Anderson movie? Yes. Yes. I got you. He, I think, he would have been a good pity wise and I'm interested to see him in something like this. Okay, release date, August 31st. August 31st, I'm sure you'll make us watch it, Brian.

That's like the summer Halloween, right? And on to our final trailer is another movie from the Conjuring Universe, The Nun. starring Tyet I can't ever say her name Taija Taija Yeah

Vermiga Vera Formiga sister There you go Yeah Charlotte Hope Damian Bertier And Bonnie Arons Directed by

Corn Hardy Laurel and Hart The Nun Corrinhart And Hardy There that would be A change It looks beautiful

The trailer looks awesome. I mean, some great, great photography, good setting. What do you guys think? Oh,

I'm all over this. I'm full into the conjuring universe. I can't know. I'm Captain optimistic, so everything looks good to me. But I'm embarrassed to admit, and you're going to hear it here first. The ending of the trailer scared me.

Yeah? The jump scare? The jump scare got me. Yeah, me too. And I hate to admit. I'm so embarrassed. But, Yeah, I'm mauled.

And the atmosphere feels good. Cornhardy's a decent director. I don't know. I'm trying to remember the name of the film he did. I saw it on Netflix last year. The Hallow. Did he do that one, too? Oh, the Hallow, okay.

And I'm looking very forward to what he does with this. Yeah, the look of the Nun is fantastic, and the cast looks strong. So, yeah, I'm down. Let's do this. Yeah, this one I'm excited about. I wish I'd seen this trailer. This is, this is, that's exciting. They can do no wrong for me.

I'm, I'm super stoked about this movie. Yep. September 7th, so not too far away. Yeah, one, one week after the, uh, the little stranger. Yep. All right. Nice, nice pick me up. Yeah.

Well, well said. And that was our last trail. All right. So, Philip, that means it's your, It's your time, brother. So Jack Falvey the 4th. Hereditary is one of these movies that doesn't really do anything you haven't seen before, but it's just the top shelf quality of that kind of movie.

It's not at all the movie's fault that it's been done before, but it's absolutely right in the vein of the witch and the house of the devil, Rosemary's Baby, etc. Exceptionally directed movie. plus it had my favorite shot in any horror movie, the pitch dark scene with something lurking in the shadows. Yeah, I guess they went to the cliche box a lot. But man, I still think they nailed it.

Right? At least they didn't go to the Sex Toys box, right? Yeah, well, there'd have been a different kind of horror movie. Beatrix Harper says, It's not the scariest movie ever made. That term is so, so tired, but it is very, very well made with an astounding set of performances. Ryan Stevens says, I was so bored after the first hour that I left the theater. Whoa. They left the theater.

I think I get why so many are enjoying it, but it definitely wasn't for me. I found it tedious and shallow. Wow. Ouch. That was Ryan, huh? Kicking the nuts. I wouldn't expect in that one. How can you leave?

after the 30 minute mark. I know, right? After that stuff happens? Oh, dude, I just, like, sat in silence for a good 10 minutes. All right. Regarding the night of lepice? Night of the lepice. Doc, you've seen that one, right?

Is it lepice or lepice? Is it Leapis or something like that? Killer rabbits, killer rabbits. Lepers. Lepers. Lepers? Lepers. All right, so not of the lepice.

Leipus? Leipus? Okay. Whichever one. It all works. Oh, man. This dude's got a long name. Jose Germain Olivares Ramirez from Spain. Says, I have not seen it, but it looks amazing. He said it in Spanish, but I translated it. Nice. Yay!

That was... Go Spain. That was a Lance translation. Hopefully I got it right. Um, let's see, regarding the poster for the devil's doorway, Ryan Stevens says, oh, yay, are they trying to create a subgenre of nun horror now? Let them do it. I don't care. Terrible Tanya from the horror mafia posted an article in the group.

Stephen King's just released The Outsider. It's already getting a limited TV series. Check it out. All right. I'm all in. Maybe Flanagan will direct it right. Doug? He can direct everything. I mean. Gene Turner posted his new review of the movie The Boy

on the group page. Oh, that's got the chick from the Walking Dead in it. Well, yeah, formerly of The Walking Dead. She's leaving halfway through this next season. Spoiler alert. They may all be leaving. Right. I have, that's my theory.

Ah, okay. Check it out. Also, don't miss Gene's other review on YouTube. All right. And that's it for listener feedback this week. As always, thanks to everybody who reaches out to us. You can always reach us at the horror returns at gmail.com

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But then you'll have to listen to me to read it. So that should be fun. All right, so that's feedback, and now we move on to our featured attractions. This week, the Year in Horror, 1978. So we're going to dive into the Manitou, Piranha, and also Martin. Director was William Gergler, also known for the classic Three on a Meat Hook. Oh, that's a classic? I guess.

as well as grizzly. Writers were William Girdler, along with John Cedar and Thomas Pope. This was actually the last film of director William Girdler. Shortly before the film's release, he was killed in a helicopter crash in the Philippines. Coincidence? While scouting locations for an upcoming film. Shades of Twilight Zone the movie there, huh? Ooh, ouch, yes.

And when this film was premiered in South Africa in 1978, the East, the East. invitations were printed on vomit bags. Oh. All right, Doc. We usually go around the table, round Robin, we usually save spoilers for last, but since these are all 78 movies, we're just going to do spoilers throughout.

But we'll do our first thoughts, and then we'll go around doing scores. And you guys do one through five. We do one through ten here, but same concept. So obviously as our guest, if you're interested, we'd definitely like to invite you to go first. Oh, well, I'm honored.

Domaino 2 is a very special film for me and the guys over here at Horror News Radio and Grissom magazine. Our co-host, Santos, Ellen Jr., the Black Saint. It was his favorite film. So we heard so much about it. Oh, man, we heard so much about it over and over and over again. And we covered it early on in the decades of horror 70s episode. and this past February we had a special screening of it in honor of Sanchez

who we lost last summer where a lot of the fans and gruesome magazine Hornies Radio group got together and watched a film at a Nevermore Film Festival. They talked to them and they got it and screened it for us. So I love this film. I enjoyed it beforehand, but now it has a very special. special place in my heart because of Santos and it's

it is such an interesting wacky zany what the hell are they thinking kind of film but William that's what William Gurdler does you know Day of the Animals too you didn't mention that oh yes Day of the Animals of course yeah

and you know the cast is fantastic the crazy battle at the end with all the shooting, whatever the hell, they're shooting into space and back at each other. It was no worse than like 90 CGI special effects. True. Well, you know, for the time, I guess so, but man, is it weird.

Way ahead of its time. And I love that, you know, the man of two looks at her when she sits up and he goes, Dard, what? And he has a slip on his face. And it's just this crazy stuff. And it's so totally all over to place. but it is such a special film.

Yeah, it's one of my favorites. Absolutely one of my favorites. Do we do the score now or do we do that at the end? No, we'll go around and everybody will give their thoughts and then we'll do scores at the end. All right, sounds good. All right, cool. Well, yeah, the minute I saw Tony Curtis in a wizard's robe,

I knew I was going to have fun watching this movie. And what a pimp, man. He starts out, you know, fleecing these old ladies. out of their money by pretending to be a psychic. And then this lady with the most magnificent breasts I might have ever seen in my life comes out and says, hey boss, what do you want me to do next? And he was ever the gentleman, you know. But yeah, Tony Curtis.

That's how I envisioned my life. And it hasn't quite gone that way. He went a long way toward making the movie. I thought the scene where he went and begged for help was really well done. It was fun seeing a relatively young Burgess Marita, maybe, sort of relatively young. No, he's not young at all. He's kind of, hey old. But what the hell was he doing, man?

Was he really acting in this film or was it from another one? I don't know. I don't know. We may never know. His performance, he's just in like one scene, right? But his performance is so special because he's just like making shit up. I was just going to wall Oh, I love it

Hit him high rock, hit him low rock Yeah, Strasbourg is Gorgeous, obviously Love the topless scenes And yeah, you're right, man That last act of the movie Just goes totally off the rails What's not to love about this movie, Brian?

What do you think? This was a first time watch for me And Doc, I agree I agree. This movie was all over the place, and I kind of love it for that, because I didn't know what to expect. I mean, you get this woman with a tumor growing on her neck, and it turns out to be a fetus of an evil medicine man. And then, again, going back to that last scene, I mean, the room that's kind of like in space and they're having a lightning bolt slash fireball fight back and forth. It was totally wacky in the best way possible, and I loved everything about this movie. Yeah, it was definitely a little crazy. I don't know that I can give it a fair review, because the only place I could find it was on YouTube, and it was kind of a shitty copy. Like, everything was cropped wrong, and the resolution was not great.

neither was the sound. I know, right? But having seen what I saw, I still kind of liked it. It definitely belongs, I think, in the so bad that it's good category. Just for the final act alone, when it goes all crazy and you've got the crazy medicine man, and everything has amenit to, including the computers and the knives.

That dude can control everything. Right. which makes me wonder how they beat him so easily. But I did kind of enjoy this movie. I laughed a few times. There were boobies. What's not to love? Plus, I mean, the doctor blows up.

Oh, yes. Yeah, I was going to say the doctor blows up. Oh, yeah. It just explodes. Completely explode. I was like, wow. And I had forgotten about that, and we saw it in the theater, and it just, like, I was pushed back in my seat. Like, oh, my God, that's crazy.

And then, you know, the one girl gets frozen and, what, like a monitor hits her in the face and knocks her heads off. It's like, there's some crazy crap in this film. It's a weird movie, man. It's the first watch for me. I'd never even heard of it before. Yeah, they didn't call the 70s the decade under the influence for none. Oh, yeah, there were definitely some drugs involved in the production of this. Yeah, bad ad.

You guys ready for scores? Sure. Doc? One through ten here, man. One through ten? Well, I'm going to have to give it a nine. Oh, nice, nice. Well, it's, and it's incredibly biased.

Right, sure. Right. Fair enough. We're very biased here. The only thing we don't do at the horror returns is talk politics, everything else we talk. Although there's a quip every now and then. All right. So strong nine then, huh?

Solid nine. Absolutely. Absolutely. Do you want like final comments or something? Yeah. You can say anything you want, man. We'll go around the table. And when you're giving your score,

any data you want to present to back it up, go for it, man. I'm just saying that you must see this film. Now, the problem is, like you were saying, you can't, right? It's not available right now. It's tough to find. Yeah, you have to get it on like a DVD that's out of print, and sometimes that's difficult to catch.

This film needs a Blu-ray release. I need somebody out there listening to this, who's that one of these great companies that are doing these 70. But I think it's kind of lost in legal. Is that the problem? I believe so. I believe so. That's the hard thing about these is that, you know,

who owns it, who has the rights? because different rights are owned by different people. Like one company might have the rights to show it in a theater, but another one has the rights to do it on media, like a blue-ray VHS, whatever it was at the time they'd purchased it. And so I think that's part of the problem with this, but man, I wish this would get out there because people need to see this. It's also one I think would be really fun for a remake.

Oh, no. Oh, my God. to just take it, you know, a millennial remake, huh? Oh my God. Be racist? Well, maybe. They could change that part, though.

I don't know. But they could, they could juice it up. Do you? Yeah, they could juice that up, right, and make it much more sense out of it. You know, Miss Kamakas. I don't know. It's a real thing.

We have a lot of shit now. Hey, Brian, Brian, we should reach out to Michael Felscher at Redshirt at Red Shirt Pictures, man. Let's play Is It Racist? yeah we should oh my god we just did the warriors on the horror news radio patreon one and oh the racist slang that just flies out of their manner wow the 70s are just a different time i've never seen that one i've always heard about it oh you never see no you never see it's a must see multirre hell it got to do it absolutely

thank you have movie homework for next week Baseball Furies. Baseball Furies, you got to watch it. I got to check it. I haven't seen it in probably 20 years or so. That's why I love it when we watch. I'm prime for a rewatch. Like when we watch these classic movies, because a lot of them are first watches for me. I mean, if they're not, then they're like serious classics. Actually, believe it or not, all three of the movies tonight, for me, were first watches. Oh, yeah? Yeah. Yeah, me too.

Absolutely. Actually, yeah, yeah, because I don't know that I ever saw Piranha. Yeah? Yeah. I saw the remake. and 3d, too. Oh. Ouch.

Well, you know, you did yourself proud because, you know, I've seen a lot of 70s horror films, but I have never seen Martin, so you got. All right. Yes. Success. Yeah, I'm going to give this, the man of you, I'm going to give it a strong 6.5, which is pretty damn good. So it was about two-thirds good, in my opinion. The final scene was awesome, the setup. Tony Curtis, all that was fantastic.

Got a little cheesy in parts, but I mean, that's obviously part of the fun. But, yeah, strong 6.5 for me. It gets a lot cheesy. Come on. You know, you need alcohol or some substance. Definitely to be fun. Sorry.

Go ahead. I'm going to go, fuck it. I'm a giving an eight. I really have. fun watching this. Nice. And we didn't even speak on, what was this, Miss, Miss Gamoskus?

Was that his name? Doc? Yes, it is. Yeah, I thought he was super creepy looking. And overall, I thought the wackiness and just everything was super fun. And I agree, this needs to be on Blu-ray. I'm going to give it an eight. What about the, uh, the shaman,

the medicine man like birthing out of her back scene we're not going to talk about that well we didn't we didn't even bring up the old lady threw herself down the stairs because that was that was really rough right she went

she went like flying down the hallway first too that was awesome yeah something right out of hereditary almost right I know yeah I feel like I need to find a better copy of this movie man right yeah I YouTube it I cannot tell a little lie.

Yeah. But I mean, they have it for free on YouTube. It's just kind of a shit copy. I'm going to give it a six. I liked it, but it was definitely in the so bad that it was good category, man. It got some cornball shit in there. But it was kind of fun. I definitely didn't get super bored with it.

Right. Although I got to say after I watched, Because I did Piranha and then this one back to back. And then after I was done with this one, I was like, all right, I'm done with 70s horror for a minute. Okay, cool. So the Manitou, that's basically four of us. We all recommend checking it out, right? Yeah, I'd say so.

All right. It's definitely worth to watch. Felscher, if you're listening, we're going to get with you about doing a Blu-ray, man. Mandela Effect is a theory going around that we, we, we, shift around to different dimensions not only once but like constantly we're like moving around and nothing is nothing actually happened

in one it's it's different strings kind of like string theory in all these different directions and it coalesc into whatever we're experiencing now and then goes out on all these other strings and we're like skipping around from one to the other all the time yeah yeah I okay now I know what you're talking about because he was like

he didn't he dead no he's still in prison he gets out right yeah exactly that's that's that's That's what started it. Sometimes you remember things specifically, very clearly that didn't happen. Yeah, and you remember it, you could swear on a stack of Bibles that it was that way. The Berenstain Bears. Berenstain Bears is one. Another example.

But I could have sworn this movie as directed by Toby Hooper. I don't know where that came from, but for some reason, I always thought this was a Toby Hooper movie. What year was Chainsaw Massacre? 74. Oh, okay. So this was what, a little bit after that. But the director actually was Joe Dante. And Joe Dante was, of course, also known for the Howling and Gremlins.

A rider, John Sales, also known for Lone Star and Passion Fish. Passion Fish. Yeah. That sounds sexy. Yeah, piranha-hallel and passion fish, huh? They like eating the nipples. Universal Studios. That was, I covered myself.

during some of those scenes. I was like, oh, they've got to be going for the nipples. Hey, do you blame them? Yeah.

So Universal Studios attempted to sue New World for spoofing jaws. Ah. However, riding on a white horse, Steven Spielberg, came in.

He actually saw this movie in advance and absolutely loved it until Universal dropped the lawsuit. Nice. Everybody's looking for it? a quick payday.

Hey, and how's this? Go, hey, go suck it, SAG, or whatever the screen actors killed. The extras were all paid $5 a day and given a box lunch. Ouch. And final piece of trivia, Rick Baker was originally tapped

to provide the makeup effects, but he recommended the then-17-year-old Rob Botton instead. Did you know that, Doc? Yes. He did all the, the gory head popped up and the legs when the guy gets pulled out of the river

oh yeah all right well doc take us away man oh man I want to say something about universal studios suing you know threatening to sue because all right they they kept doing that they they went after one that was called the last shark in the 80s and was also known as great white and they actually succeeded there they got them

not after jaws the movie but the book so they They got them on, you know, ripping off the book. And if you watch that movie, you can see it. The Peter Benchley novel, right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly. And so, yeah, they kept, they didn't stop at this. I'm surprised they didn't go out to Grizzly. Yeah?

Because everybody was ripping off jaws. And this movie does it spectacular. But not really. I mean, the only way it really does it is the fact that, you know, it's a, it's a, it's a fish the story is right sure it's quite a bit different because it's you know these scientists and they're making these franas and they get

out when these kids start you know break into this one joint and swim and and and then they get into the river and attack a bunch of school kids though you know hey lots of fun Santos would love that part huh?

Oh I'm sure you did yeah absolutely and of course he's got Bradford Dillman in it we you know we lost him recently this year and Heather Benzies, Kevin McCarthy's in it, you know, it's got a great cast what Dick Miller's in it, Barbara Steele, right,

I'm trying to get to the name of the guy that, Keenan Win, yes, Keenyn Wins the old man that gets his legs eating off and. Oh, the old guy drinking on the dock of the bay. Yeah, yeah, Doc of the Bay. This one, I didn't see it in the theaters when it came up, but I

saw it shortly after. and it became an instant favorite. It's just one of those, you know, great little films. It has so much, it's got like some stop motion in it just for fun. And, you know, it has all the fish on, you know, the prawn underwater coming at the people in their little, you know, in the tubes and stuff. And then you also have Paul Bartel running around being silly. And it's, it's, you know, its tongue is planted firmly in its cheek. so it's having a good time with it.

Yeah. You think? Ah, I thought it's all supposed to be taken totally seriously, man. Come on. I think Bradford Dilman didn't realize. But Joe Dante, you know, he always has like, in his filmography, he's always got a little bit of a funny slant. I mean, look at howling. Howling has some funny bits in the deep, right?

Gremlins, of course. And this one does too. But, yeah, Bradford Dilman just didn't realize it. I love this film. So glad you picked it. He thought he was going to be the next Charles Bronson, huh? He wanted to be something. Actually, actually, one of our Facebook followers thought that it was, oh, it was Patrick.

He said, starring Thanos's dad. Do you remember that, Brian? Yes. He thought it was James Rowland. So I was like, maybe this guy is kind of like the poor man's James Browland, huh? Yeah, well, at the time, James Rowland was the poor man's Browland. Raffert Tillman. But that changed quickly.

I mean, he's drunk. Well, they think he's drunk the whole movie, at least. Right. Which he probably is just on cocaine. Just, just, just that old. I mean, I love Bradford-Dilman. You know, the movie Bug is a favorite. Yeah, the only movie bug I remember is the one with Ashley Judd and Michael Shannon.

Have you seen that one? Yeah, it's out there right now. But, yeah, you should check the one out from the same. It's a William Castle joint. Oh, no. So totally different, different type of movie. He didn't direct it. He produced it, but it was the last thing he was involved with before he passed away.

Oh, good. Yeah. So it was about killer, killer, killer bugs or? Killer, killer, killer cockroaches that catch things on fire. That would suck a lot. Yeah, yeah. I don't like seeing a cockroach as it. That sounds amazing.

Right. It's a pretty, yeah, it is. Well, it's pure 70s. I mean. Take that. Well, Doc, you said you're glad we made this pick. We got to give credit where credits do. Whether you love the movies that we have on this show or whether you hate them,

with the exception of Medea's Halloween, which Brian let me have one. Which everybody loves. But other than that, Brian is the man. He picks all the movies. He decides what goes with what. So, Brian, you got to go next on this one. there. This, I swore

I watched this before, but as I'm watching it, I really not. This is a, yes, yes. Oh, there's another one. I might have watched Piranha II, the spawning. I might have watched that one thinking it was the original. Right. But I had fun with this one.

They had decent gore on it. I didn't expect the comedic feel to it, because I thought it was going to be a little bit more serious. it is very 70s with there's certain things I noticed like when they walk into the laboratory and you hear the beep boop boop of the

computers just in the background what about the video game at the beginning yes very Atari and the opening actually the opening of this movie gave me a very like Friday the 13th

kind of slasher feel. Really? Teenagers sneaking into the to the pond and skinny dipping or whatever. It just kind of gave me that slasher movie type feel

in the beginning. I kept thinking about that it wasn't Tales from the Crypt, but it was one of those movies where they had the lake with a thing in it. Oh, yeah, you're talking about

the raft. That was in Crepe show too. Creech Show. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Right. That's the vibe I got from the beginning of it. Okay.

Which I could see that. It was a big part of my childhood, so it freaked me out. And there was a super weird scene where they were escaping the military camp. Okay. And she flashes her boobs, but she flashes her boobs after she tells the guard to look up. What? Yeah, you guys don't remember that scene. She was like, hey, what's that?

And as soon as he turns his head, she, like, flashes her boobs. And I was like, this is obviously just so. she can flash her boobs. Right. He's not looking at anything, but sky. So which point? Kind of like the old, when we were in grade school, we did the Chinese, Japanese, dirty knees. Look at these.

I'm probably the only one who remembers that. But overall, but they were like, no. But overall, I had a, I also had a good time watching this. I'm glad I watched it. Yeah. Well, I've got a little story. I had no idea that this thing was filmed at Aquarina Springs in San Marcos. Oh, really?

Yeah. I, uh, my, my, uh, my, my step. Are there still piranhas there? They didn't kill them all. There could be that glass bottom boat, so it's possible. But, uh, yeah, my, uh, my stepfather, uh, his family actually, uh, actually own that, Aquarina Springs. They started it.

Yeah. Really? Yeah, when it first opened, I guess, in about 10, I think it's about 10 years before this was filmed. I think piranha owes you so money. Well, I don't know about that. But I do remember we could get into Ocarina Springs Free. That was the one perk we got anytime we wanted.

And such a cheesy place. Any of you guys been there? No. Silence is deafening. All right. Well, probably the main thing there was that they referred to that submarine. They said, oh, you stole that from someplace in South Florida or something like that. The submarine actually was like an amphitheater type.

thing that submerged underwater. And they had like women dressed up as mermaids and stuff like that that were doing like an underwater, kind of like a Cirque de Soleil underwater show. Oh. But the main star was Ralph the Swimming Pig. And I think he showed up in this movie. Really? Yeah, didn't they have the pig there that was the star of the show?

I don't know. I didn't remember that part. Yeah, Ralph the Swimming Pig. And they would announce him. That's crazy. Yeah, basically everybody that was in the submarine, like you were sitting in chairs, like in a little amphitheater and then it submerged down underwater and then you could see the uh the swim the mermaid show and you one of your relatives owned this yes that's insane they started it and

founded it and uh so they had that and then of course they had the glass bottom boat rides and they had a um a little uh what do you call like a gondola i guess that went from one end of the park to the other oh okay elevated gondola oh i got you kind of like a ski lift sort of but enclosed and they used to have the cheesiest little almost Ripley's believe it or not type shit in a little building you would go in like you'd put a quarter in and there'd be a chicken that would like play a piano and you'd walk down to the next one you'd plop a quarter in and there'd be like a chicken that would like like scratch out tick-tac-toe and stuff like that they should have put veronnas in it's super cheesy man but umharaans with arms yeah it was kind of weird watching the movie movie because it was definitely a stroll down memory lane for sure. But now I think that place is actually owned by Southwest Texas State.

I think they still do the glass bottom boat rides, but that's it. Well, San Marcos is the same place with like the river rides and stuff, right? Down the Guadaluas? Yeah, it's right down the river from that. Actually, I think most of those are in. That's actually the San Marcos River, which is an offshoot of the Guadalupea River. But what you're thinking about New Brontles. Yeah.

So the piranhas could get. Everywhere. Yes. Well, remember at the end. Oh, we can spoil the hell out of this, right? 78 movie. Like where it went out into the ocean? Plus, it's not like it really is going to ruin your movie experience.

Right. What did you guys think about the ending anyway? Did you think there was going to be a sequel possibly? Did they set it up? Yeah, set it up a little bit. But yeah, it was definitely a fun movie. Obviously not, you know, not a, not a, not a masterpiece by any stretch of the imagination. The acting was absolutely fucking horrible, just atrocious.

All from top to bottom. I thought it was great. Oh, what did you guys think about that high-tech cell phone, 1978 cell phone in the suitcase? The suitcase cell phone. Yeah, movie way ahead of its time, guys. Way like the Manitou, probably about 40, 50, 60 years ahead of its time. time. Who's next? I guess that's me.

I was actually really excited about this one. I'd never seen it, and I'd always kind of wanted to. I think the only rip-off on Jaws is maybe the cover of the movie, just because I'm looking at it on IMDB now. And, yeah, if you check that out, it does look very Jaws-ish.

But other than that, man, I had a fun time with this one. It was pretty entertaining, kind of the whole time. The swarming noise of the little... Oh, I forgot about that. Of the piranhas.

I don't know. It was goofy. That one kind of got to me after a while. But other than that, I mean, I had a blast watching this one. I thought it was really fun. It did give me a very creep show kind of vibe to it, and then it just sort of stuck to that, man.

like late 70s, early 80s, cheese horror movie monster stuff. And I loved it. And who's not afraid of what's under the water, even in a lake? Right. I mean, there could be some crocodiles

or shit under there. There should be like some kind of giant crocodile slash shark. You don't know. But, uh... Crocker shark. Yeah. We're creating a new movie next year, by the way.

Uh, but no, this one was good, man. I, I really enjoyed it. I like the piranhas. They've always freaked me out. My kids, for some reason, have found out about some sort of piranhas. And so they kept running back and forth while I was trying to watch this one, and they were freaking out about the whole piranha thing. Yeah?

So they may never go in the ocean again. Oh, yeah, and you live in Galveston. It's been real hard for the night's got the ocean. Like, don't worry about the piranhas. Just don't go too far out because the sharks will get you. But yeah, I liked it, man. It was a good one. This was in the running for my favorite of the three.

Oh, okay. I know, right? It didn't quite get there, but it was for a while. Right. Scores? I think Brian still needs to go. No, I went. You got to weigh in, man.

I already went. Jesus, Luke. What the hell? Was I asleep? Mandela effect, guys. Mandela. Yeah. Running.

All right, we'll go with scores then, Doc. What do you say, man? I'm going to give this a solid eight. This is a favorite of mine from the 70s. Yeah, it's a great one. I do want to say, you know, you mentioned that about a sequel, and I think somebody mentioned that Parana 2, right? Yeah.

So it did get a sequel, and do you know who directed the sequel? I'm going to give. Toby Hoover. Toby Hooper? No. James Cameron. It was his first film. Yeah, it was his first film.

Right. Yeah. And it's awful. Oh, wow. Piranha, 2, the spawning. You got to get your trash before you hit Transformers. Oh, I like the cover. You got to cut your teeth.

You got to cut your teeth. And he did. You know, it was Roger Corman. And that's what, you know, he started out, you know, doing all the sets. Flying piranha. Effects and stuff are, well. Roger Corman and that was his break. It paid off because he

went on to do some great films. I had no idea. Check that out. Stumble before you crawl, I guess. Well, look what Piranha did for us. Ryan?

Ladies and gentlemen, you're welcome. So an eight for him. So does this mean, do you are next, Brian? Yep. I'm going to go seven. I had a good time.

watching this. I mean, you get kids getting eaten by piranhas in the lake. I mean, what's not fun about that? Right. Good solid 7 out of 10. Especially when nobody believed them. Oh, yeah.

They're like, ah, fuck it, let him swim. Yeah, I also had a really fun time watching this movie. I also give it a 7. A lot of fun checking it out. Some of the worst acting ever, which kind of adds to it. But I do love when Kevin McCarthy ran out and said,

What did you do? Did you open up the water? Did you let it into the river? That part was really great. But yeah, I love the kids getting eaten. I was a little upset at first because they kept hinting at it, like teasing you. Like, oh, no, these two kids just barely got away. And this one got on top of a boat and got away.

Oh, no. But then there was a payoff. Thank God. Yeah. Lots of killing in this. Strong seven out of ten. Anytime there was a downtime, they were like, let's kill a few people.

I liked it, man. I'm going to give it a seven and a half. I thought it was super fun. Definitely worth the watch. And this one is on YouTube, too. Just in case you've ever seen it. And this one's a better copy on YouTube. It's actually the movie.

Okay, cool. All right. Cool. So all four of us, again, recommend it. So far, two winners, guys. Brian, good picking, man. This one is going to be Martin, not the 1990s sitcom with Martin Lawrence, Phillips. Sorry. Director Ann Ryder was a fellow named George A. Romero. I think we've covered a few of his movies before on the show. Wait a minute.

also known for Night of the Living Dead and Dawn of the Dead. Director George A. Romero originally wanted the entire film to be in black and white, but the producers did not want to risk this experiment and insisted that the majority of the film be in color, except, of course, for some flashbacks and stuff like that. Tom Savini, in addition to makeup, he did stunts in the movie. His face can clearly be seen in the scene where the street person is hit, and rolls over the hood of a car.

So, Martin, Doc, what'd you think, man? Well, the cool thing about this is I missed out reviewing this on decades of horror 70s. I was off doing something else, so I didn't get to watch it either. So this is a first for me. I finally was able to watch Martin, which is a vampire film from George Romero, and it's a very different type of vampire film. The word Nospheratu is bandied about quite a bit. It's quite the interesting film.

It's a little slow. For me, especially for even the 70s film, which tend to be less hectic than today's films. You've got to be a little more patient sometimes. With the exception of hereditary, right? Well, yeah, we do have a few of them that come around, but yeah, yeah, yeah, that's a good, good point. But this, there's, I had to watch it twice to get the full effect.

The first time I kind of missed the point, but the second time I watched it, I really started getting into the Cuda character, the old man, and then Martin, you know, their cousins, and Martin's got to live with them. And, and getting more into the backstory of how Martin ended up living with his cousin. and whether or not he's actually a vampire

and realizing that he is that he is, spoiler. But not the kind that you think, but the teeth. And they make a pretty funny gag at that when he comes running out there with the fake team. Oh, yeah, sure, yeah. That was great, man. Yeah, Kudo all scared up in his shit.

And Tom Zavini is in it as a character named Arthur that's dating Kudo's. daughter and he's actually really good and George Romero plays Father Howard and I was surprised how yeah I definitely didn't recognize him at first yeah yeah because he's he's he looks so young he comes to yeah he comes you know he doesn't have the big glasses that we you know come to know to know about right that's kind of became his trademark right but the but back then you know he still because he could still see but he you know comes to the dinner and he yeah it was a very natural conversation it wasn't

stilted or anything. So it was great. I really did appreciate it much more the second time that I watched it and really got into it. I would not say it's one of my favorite Romero films. Oh, really? Yeah. Man, I'm going to disagree with you

on that one. Yeah, but I don't know. I'm certainly glad to have watched it finally and it's not like I'm not going to recommend it. because it does have a lot of interesting things. But I feel like it's more interesting for what it means in cinema history and the tomography of George Romero than, you know, in and of itself. Some interesting background about this is that George Romero at this point was a million dollars in debt in 1976 when this was filmed.

It came out in 78. And Rubinstein. Back then it actually was. meant something. But Rubenstein, you know, his frequent

producer would return to produce with him with this film in effort to help him get out of that. He said just, you know, he told him just to go ahead

and go bankrupt and he wouldn't do it because he didn't want to leave all the people that you had money to out in the cold like that. And he, he respected that

so much that he produced this film. Of course, this one didn't do what they wanted. and then that's when they turned to do, you know, Dawn of the Dead, and that's when they paid him off all his debts. So, yeah, it's interesting with that.

It's interesting that this is Tom Savini jumping in here and, you know, hooking up with him. He's acting in here, and he's pretty fantastic. John Amplis is very interesting in the role. Of course, you know, correct me wrong, doesn't he play the, in Crepe show? the old man coming up out of the grave, right? Your guess is as good as mine.

I don't think so. I've never seen him at anything else, I don't think. Yeah, well, he started in a couple of things, mostly with George Romero. Let me look real quick, because there's a couple things I wanted to mention. Okay, sure. He's uncredited in Donned the Dead. He's Nathan's corpse and Creep Show, and he's the character Fisher in Day of Day. I had no idea, man.

Wow. It was in Nightwriters as well. Have you ever seen Nightwriters from? Oh, yeah, with the motorcycle riders that were like Knights in Shining Arbor, basically. Was that with Ed Harris? It is. It is with Ed Harris. I saw it decades ago.

Decades ago. Yeah, so once you get in with George Romero, he keeps you around. And I thought his performance was really nuanced. It's interesting. but man the pacing on this film just did me in yeah

all right I can see that well listen I'm gonna I gotta jump in here guys because out of these three movies I fucking love this movie I fucking loved it

I thought the pacing was fantastic I think this may be Romero's best movie I mean you guys know I mean you guys know how much I love Dawn of the Dead and I was

I was a big fan of the original Night of the Living Dead and the creepiness, but this movie just kept you guessing from start to finish, you know, is he or isn't he? And it just had a lot to say about, I just love the way that they took like a young man's budding sexuality and his awareness of himself as a sexual being. And they kind of incorporated it into the story here. And, I mean, I just thought that Romero really pulled it off with this one. And I don't know how much of that, now that you've told us that story, Doc, you know, they say pain, you know, they say that pain can be the, you know, the source of great art sometimes. You know, just look at the great blues singers and stuff like that.

So I wonder how much his struggles and the things that were going on with him personally influenced him to make what I would consider a piece of art here, like full of pain and suffering and sorrow. and just, you know, a coming of age movie, really. And it really didn't matter if he was really a vampire or not. None of that mattered. That was all completely secondary to the actual story that Romero was telling here. And I love the slow burn aspect. I love the opening scene on the train. The way that he took such care to hide his crime.

And, you know, the way that he interacted with different characters. And he was just kind of a clutz. like all of us at that age, you know? I just really enjoyed this movie for what it was. And I really did like the scene that you talked about. Dockery came out in full vampire makeup in the graveyard and scared the hell out of Uncle or whatever. Just a great movie start to finish.

I enjoyed this very much so out of the three of them. This is far away my favorite. It's interesting to say coming of age because he reveals in the film that he's 84 years old. Yes. I thought that was awesome. That was awesome. Yeah, I think I'm going to agree with you.

This was kind of a surprise for me. I didn't even know what I was watching before I pulled this one up. And I was like, George Romero, Martin? That's a dumb name for a movie. And found it on YouTube also, by the way. And man, this one was very. really good. It was, it's definitely a slow burn and it goes real, real slow.

But I think there's some art here behind it. Was it done perfectly? No. But I would love to see a remake of this movie, man. I think it was such a cool idea for a movie that just the basis behind it drove the whole thing. Because it was one of those kind of artsy movies. where there's not a ton of plot to it, you know?

Like, once you get the basic concept of what's happening, it's just shit that happens to people in everyday life. And that's what the movie was about. Except that he was maybe a vampire, I assume? I don't know. They don't ever really give you a crystal clear answer to it. Well, he had the habits, no matter what. You know, he thought he was.

So what else really matters? He's doing the deed, you know? Yeah. I assume that he was a vampire. but it was a take on a vampire that you don't really see. I think if they did it right now, we may need to wait a few more years till after that whole twilight thing goes...

You know what I mean? Doc, that's one of your favorite movies, isn't it? Until that one's in the hindsight. No. Because they went super fucking vampire crazy there for a little while. But this one was kick-ass, man. I thought it was like a realistic vampire in modern day times in the 70s. And it made me think about a lot of things, you know, about just how different the times are between now and then.

Mm-hmm. And about whether or not, you know, he was a vampire, maybe he's crazy. Is his uncle crazy or cousin or whatever? All that was missing was the big bulky cell phone in the suitcase, right? I know, right? uh i i i i liked it man i thought they uh i thought they definitely pulled this one off um it takes some some effort to pay attention to it just because it's it it is a little slow but uh they had me man they like hook line and sinker sunk it sunk it's fangs into yeah like once the once the

story started i was just really interested in the whole concept behind it and uh i was willing to watch it i i'd never seen that before i don't think any movie has ever done that. I don't know if it's my favorite George Romero movie, but maybe part of the reason I liked it so much is that it was George Romero. I thought it was really cool, man.

I was impressed. And I'd never seen it. I'd never even heard it. That's my reason. I thought this movie was great. It was a very different take on the whole vampire genre. The one thing I really liked is the character

He took on his victims and how he stalked and hunted them. Right. It was almost like this movie was part like slasher, serial killer movie. Yes, I got that vibe too. That was one of the other things that I was thinking about was like, oh, what if, you know, what if vampires are still around in real world? How would they do their thing now? Maybe those, like Jeffrey Dahmer kind of people, maybe those people are vampires. And this movie kind of makes you think about that.

Yeah. Yeah, I just, I just really love the carefulness of, even after he got his victim, he made sure to, like, clean up the crime scene. And I thought, I think it was, I think he was fantastic in this movie. And I did not see that ending coming because I just, you totally forget that the uncle had told him if don't, don't kill anybody in, in the city. Oh, yeah. And which, you know, he didn't kill that lady. So it was, I guess, kind of messed up on, as far as he's concerned. Right.

And one thing I got to point out, that, that shootout scene, that escalated very quickly. Oh, you're talking about the drug deal gone bad? Yeah, that came out of nowhere. And it just, it happened. And it wasn't. I did see Tom Savini's face when you. I was kind of laughing. You brought that up in trivia.

But overall, from beginning to end, for me, it didn't feel slow to me. I was totally invested in this whole movie. And this might be up there as far as Romero films for me. Cool. All right. Anything else to say, Doc? You want to move on to scores? Let's do scores.

All right. You demand. I'm going to start us off, right? I'm going to give this a Let's see Do I want to go Can I go 7 and a half? Absolutely

You go 7.23786 if you want Nice. Seven half will work though All right Yeah I wanted to like it more than I did And I'm glad I watched it the second time But this would have been a very painful discussion

So So don't try to watch it when you're You know really tired you might fall asleep. Oh, yeah, fair enough. But the performances are what carry this.

You know, it's, it's, like you were saying, it's less about it, actually, you know, whether it's a vampire or something.

It's more about what's up with Martin, you know, what's going on. And, but man, I, you know, if you were made a drinking game on this,

every time you heard Nospheratu, you would be rash. You'd be shriekered. And every time it came from the same fucking person. Yeah. Nasarado. Well, occasionally they would do it in the flashbacks. They have all these black and white flashbacks.

And I really like the black and white flashbacks the second time around. Yeah. They started, I started getting the story they were telling more because if you pay attention to the flashbacks, you know, you understand that, yeah, he is, yeah, he's most definitely a vampire. And he's been around for a couple years. And, you know, he's trying to survive. And, you know, I like when he's, like calling the radio person up and he's, they call him the counts. and you're saying that, you know, the girls aren't pretty anymore. I thought that was hilarious.

Oh, man. Yeah, that sounds like that radio host was kind of like our buddy, Denny Lewis, when he was doing After Midnight. Which, Denny, I know you're listening, brother. We need that show back again, man. I don't know what it's going to take, but we will see you in Chicago. So we're going to tie you down and make you do the After Midnight show again, man. All our listeners are always asking when you're coming back. Enough of that.

Sorry, didn't mean to interrupt. No worries, man. Yeah, but for George Romero, it's Donald the Dead is the one for me. But this is right up there. I still think, you know, Creve show and Night of the Dead, maybe Martin. You gave it a good score, man. That speaks of volumes right there. Well, it's just, it's crazy that I've never heard of this one.

You know what I mean? Yeah, I'd heard of it, just never gotten around to see it. I've always wanted to. But now that I have seen it, 8.5 for me. Nice. Yeah, really, really, really. really got into this movie. I actually can't wait to see it again.

Yeah? Yeah, especially after listening to Doc talking about the flashback sequences making a lot more sense on the second viewing. Yeah, I'm definitely ready for that. 8.5. Yeah, this was, like Piranha was definitely my favorite until I watched this one. And this was, I was just kind of throwing it in at the very end. I literally just finished watching it probably an hour. Oh, really? Yeah. Don't watch TV and drive, ladies and gentlemen. But...

That's its own kind of horror show right there, huh? But no, man, I really need to sit down and watch this and give it my full attention. I'm going to give it an eight. Nice. I just, I can't believe that this is not in classic horror film talk. You know what I mean? Like Day of the Dead obviously is. There's a ton of George Romero movies that are but I've never even heard this one come up in the conversation

and it needs to be there. It's good. Nice. Nice. I'm going to go eight and a half. I really, really enjoyed this. While you guys were giving you, I'm sitting here thinking this might be top two or three as far as Romero

films for me. Yeah. Me too. Me too, for sure. Yeah, this one and Dawn for me, I think. Yeah, I'm right there with you. And definitely a pleasant, pleasant surprise. And I'm kind of mad at myself. It took this long to check this movie out. So I'm going to go eight and a half.

All right, man. I didn't know about it. Yeah. Well, there you have it, folks. Every one of us highly recommends it. So, Brian, I think what we're getting here is that you pick three. good ones this week? Yeah. Sounds like it.

There's a reason that you picked the movies and there's a reason that Philip picks the music. Because I had more than one person bitch about my choice in music, about bumper music before. But, all right. Well, so before we go into the end of the show, Spiel, Doc, cannot thank you enough, man. Between me and Brian, the fan boys we are and Philip. I'm sure you're going to go and check out. Actually, while we were doing the show, I went and subscribed to Grusome Magazine podcast

because I didn't realize you had another podcast called Grusome Magazine podcast, Doc. Yeah, that's the one where we do all the streaming stuff. Sometimes they're good, and then most of the time they're just... It is what it is. I love the logo, man, with the big eyeball. Oh, thank you. Yes, I love that, too.

Night of the Virgin. Oh, man, that one. Holy crap. Oh, no. Oh, my God, that movie. That's great. Oh, my God. Can't wait.

Can't wait. All right. Yeah. Let me recommend one real quick. Yeah, please do. It's a film called Low Life. And it would probably be... The wrestling movie, right?

Yes. Oh, my God. Brian, have you seen that? Yeah. I kind of didn't like it. Oh, no. Oh, man. It was really in my wheelhouse.

I tried to get my wife to watch it, and so I had to change movies at the last second because she was about to tap out. Ouch. But we didn't even start it. I've been told to give it another watch, so maybe I should do that. It's just, yeah, because it's, yeah, yeah, I'm going to shut up. Revenge is another one. Yes, that's great. Yeah, we did watch that one.

That was a good one. Yeah, loved revenge. And that's it. Yeah. Well, come on. man, give us the lowdown, man. You were gracious enough to come on and hang out with us for an hour and a half or so. So come on, man.

Pitch your wares, man. Tell us where we can find you. I'm glad you guys invited me. I had a great time. This is fun. Kind of do the spiel on a little three of them real quick instead of spending a whole hour on one. This is awesome. But, yeah, so I've been doing horror news radio for five years, and that's going strong.

and we like you said we have the gruesome magazine podcast which is the streaming ones we also have a decades of horror series of podcasts with various different hosts on it the 70s is the one that Santos and I started off doing we also have the 80s and Jeff Moore and his crew do the classic era which is all the way up through the 60s so we kind of covered those films so depending on which ones you like you'll you'll dive into the those. particular ones. For me, it's the 70s. I love the 70s. So when I heard you guys were doing this, I was all in. I said, yeah, get me on here. This is great.

Do it. So check us out at gruesomemagine.com. That's the place you can give them all, or if you just want to check out Horror News Radio, I can do Horror NewsRadio.com. Good stuff, man. All right, man. Well, you're welcome anytime.

Yeah, thank you for coming on, man. That was awesome. Oh, definitely. Let's do us again. Definitely. All right, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You know, you can always reach us at The Horror Returns at gmail.com.

And where else, Brian? Follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, Tumblr, Podbean, everything. And Philip, run down that iTunes contest again? Yeah. Go check us out on iTunes. Leave us a five-star review preferably. But honestly, just leave us to review at all. And you're probably going to win a T-shirt.

Chances are. Chances are. If it's a five-star, you're definitely win a T-shirt. Just saying. All right. Next week, it's all about the dinosaurs. I can't believe another Jurassic Park movie already again. I'm not mad.

Aye, aye, y, aye. Okay. Well, we're going to review the new film Jurassic World Fallen Dinosaurs, man. Okay. Well, I sure didn't like the last one, man. I sure hope this one's better than that. But we are going to watch one that I did love, which is the original Jurassic Park. Oh, classic.

And we actually, we won't have a guest next week. This is a rare break from having guests on. We were going to have a guest, but we'll save that because of availability issues. We'll have this particular guest on probably a month down the road. But for now, it's just us unless maybe our fourth host, Anez, joins us, which sometimes happens. Brian, you may want to reach out. Quite, quite possible. All right, Philip, until the horror returns again, good night.

I didn't notice. I honestly didn't notice it. They stopped that sequence to show you, Stanley. Maybe I was looking down. Maybe I dropped my mustard. I don't know. You know, I had a... There's a new term to coin right there.

Oh, geez, I can hardly walk when I happened. I was on 42nd Street last week, and I dabbed in one of those shady pitters, and I dropped my mustard right there. Drop my mustard, that's thing you know, mickety-bang. Drop my mustard, pulled up my pants, and I walk right out. I'm so, I apologize. I mean, I had a hot dog. You know, I don't know. It's not helping.

No, that's helping.