The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #110: Ants! (1977) & Ant Man And The Wasp (2018) (Reupload)

Episode Date: November 17, 2023

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Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. All right, welcome back, everybody, to the horror returns. A couple of false starts there, a few software issues, but we're here. Well, they don't know. It's late. That's true. Anyway. Break it down the third wall or whatever.

All right, I'm Lance, and with me as always, my co-host Brian and Philip Yes sir And Nez in the house What's up, Nez? Yo, what up?

I'm good So you guys Ready to start Itching With all these Ant bites and shit That was terrible Making me itch

All right Hey, they don't all win Look at Ant Man Versus the Wasp Oh Okay Spoilers I think that's

I think that's I think that I think Nez is going to disagree with you. But, uh, all right, it's all good. That's why we're here. It's not as bad as it sounds. All right, Nez, let's jump in, baby. We're already starting a few hours late.

What's your cool of the week, man? I don't know if you guys watch a glow on Netflix. Uh, my wife watches it. I've never checked it out. I heard it's really good. I zip through the second season. First season was better. Uh, the first half of this season was a little.

slow but then once the wrestling kicked in it was badass all the way to the end and uh rewatch a cobra kai I'm still gonna hype that up to the end again how many times can we talk about that when is season two coming out

next year I would say yeah like not soon no not soon enough my fingers are crossed that they're going to be at Comic-Con I hope so oh that'd be fun oh man I can't

right? I can't hype that show up enough. I know the last time I was on, I do it to hyping it up, but still awesome. Yeah, Glow, Season 2 on Netflix, awesome show. Copacai, We Do Bread, and I just seen The First Purge. Oh, wow. Yeah. Brian, too.

I liked it. It was pretty much the same thing as the last two movies. I wouldn't say the first one, but... Mm-hmm. I like what's going on. I thought it was the beginning, so it drug in the beginning, and then once the action kicked in, I thought it was cool. Marissa Tom...

Marissa Tomei, always good to look at. Did you guys talk about that? Hey, right? Did you guys talk about that already? I don't know. No, Brian saw the movie. We didn't see it. I didn't anyway.

Now, is this a... This is not like the... TV show that they were talking about, right? No. Okay. Man, I haven't seen it. Brian? Yeah, I watched the mid-credits.

Okay. Because I left, because I had to go to the bathroom. Yeah, one was a throwaway kind of nothing credit scene, and another one was basically a commercial for the TV series.

Okay. Did it say a network that was in beyond? USA and sci-fi okay well do some kind of dual broadcast

I guess it can make it violent I mean USA is pretty good at that but overall man I thought the movie was cool man it was

what it was it's nothing new I mean we already seen how it was in the last one I mean it was

it was all political again so but I dug it I thought it was cool once the action kicked in, it was good all the way from there to the end. So, yeah, those are my cool of the weeks. Brian, what you think, man?

I didn't like it. It wasn't a Purge movie to me. They should have called it like assault on Staten Island or something. It was, and everybody in this movie was an amazing action star. And this one's like the origin story? Yeah, I kind of just, I felt like they could have did something. something that was going to be like super controversial and like kind of pushing the boundaries here and i just kind of didn't feel like they it went they i don't know i was i was a little bored

and marissa to me yeah she's she's nice to look at but she's there collecting a paycheck how old is she in this movie or in real life like in real life because she looked she looked way better in a spider-man that she did here really i didn't like the blonde hair. Oh, no. Yeah. She said blonde hair. I don't know, dude.

She's got... She's hot. Yeah, she is. It's just... I don't know. I was expecting some. There was a couple cool characters in here

they introduced and kind of, I don't know. I got a little bit more excited when they showed a little credit scene for the TV show more than I was this movie. That's not a good sign. Everybody in Staten Island

turned into like a... special ops. Yeah. Military trains. Well, that's what happens. When the purge comes around. So the first started in Staten Island?

Yeah, it was like a social experiment that the, what did they call them? The founding fathers or whatever. Right. Yeah. And, yeah, I don't want to give it away. You know, it just came out. But that's where the first purge happened was on Staten Island. Yeah, it was just an.

experiment and then wasn't going the way they wanted it to go and then all hell broke loose. No. So did my cousin Vinnie show up? No, he wasn't there. No, no cobra Kai either, huh? One of the domain guys turned into Ram, bro.

Yeah, yeah. With no explanation on how. Oh, no. That's what happens when the purge comes. Ned, did you catch him, like, doing the Robocop, no look, shooting people move? Yeah. I was like, what is going on?

I mean, it got so crazy at the end. I think that's why I loved it so much, because it just got off the wall and stupid. And it just made me laugh. I mean, I liked all the action, the shooting up violence. I thought that was cool, but he just like, What happened? I guess don't go to Staten Island. You guys happen to have scores on it?

It's not on our docket, is it? No. For me, I give it a soft seven. Yeah? The action was, I'm always entertained. I'm not going to go to the Purge movie and expect, you know, they're going to reinvent the wheel or something. but the action

was pretty good. They're getting away from that kind of home invasion horror feel into a more like action. And there's nothing wrong with action. I didn't even think the first one is horror. I know they put it in the horror category, but

I thought the first one was more just like a home invasion thriller type of deal. And then after that, they just turned into like action thrillers. I mean, yeah um they but they they were hyping up the new Halloween did you catch that oh oh yeah

on the wall they showed a few yeah yeah the one of the active bedrooms is a there's a poster for the new Halloween movie oh okay well so where do you get that free advertising why not um I'd probably give it

yeah I'd probably give about seven I mean It wasn't. Same score we all gave Transformers. Which one? The last one? Yeah, the one you didn't. Oh, the last night or whatever?

I don't know. I don't remember what it was, but my score was low. I hated that one. Marky Mark was the last night. Oh, okay. This one, the purge is worth watching, huh? Yeah. I'm going to find some perch music because that was an entire movie review.

It's definitely worth the movie pass, though, right? You like the last two, right, Philip? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I always do one. I think you'll get into this one. Yeah, I'm down. My fifth one was the second one. Yeah.

If I put in my order, I would go two, four, one, then three. I would go two, three, four, and one. Really? There you go. I think one is my second favorite. So 2, 1, 4, and 3. Anyway, there you go. Well, except I don't know, I haven't seen 4.

I did catch one other movie. I caught it, I think, the last night or the night before, former guest on our show, Russell Jeffrey Banks. Yes. Interviewed him. Yes. What? Yes.

Yeah, I caught that movie. Where was it? You can, it's everywhere to rent right now. Oh man. I definitely gonna watch that. I've been looking forward to that for a while. Yeah, he's really pushing it. I dug the movie, but it's his performance that really, really sells it.

And I'm just gonna, I'm gonna leave it at that because it's fair. It just came out. So I'm gonna give people time. He, he plays crazy really good. Really good. What is it looks? Maybe. Movie.

Otherwise, I wasn't, it's not bad. Yeah. But I thought it was going to get super cuckoo and crazy as far as the entire movie. But his performance is the reason to watch the movie, though. Okay. Well, you know we're going to watch it. Oh, yeah. I'm checking it out.

Tomorrow I'm finding it somewhere. Cool. Hey, Brian, did you see it? Yes. it's at the dollar theater and me and my wife are going to check at it Superfly

Oh It's already at the dollar theater It's only even out of a week man I was originally was going to watch it And then I was like damn It's already at the dollar theater Because I'm really curious as to why I'm assuming the villains of the movie

Are in all white everything Including their guns Yeah Did you listen to our review Is it the anchor one? Yeah. Yeah, I didn't. I just found out from Theo that you guys have a separate podcast feed for E-society, and that's where they was going.

So. Oh, wait a minute. Is that why I'm missing some stuff for what? Well, let me go into it really quick. We are anchor. This is a new app that our friend of us hooked us up with. Right. It's easier to record.

I mean, like, if I'm not at home, because usually when we do our regular shows, I'm sitting at home in front of my computer. But this app helps us record, like, if I'm at work or somewhere else, and it's easy. I can just record it off my phone and then put it out. Right. So we've done about 10 shows on there. We're on, like, cast box, we're on iTunes, Google Podcasts or whatever their platform is. I've got to resubscribe. Look, hold on.

This is important for the listeners, Nez. I'm having to resubscribe, dude. That's why I lost my feed, man, in iTunes. I mean, the SkaterNest podcast is all there. That's all the regular shows. These anchor shows are sometimes 10 minutes, sometimes 30 minutes. I mean, they're usually not that long. Okay.

So we've been really hitting hard on those. Yeah, I got a bunch of them downloaded. I really want to hear you guys' opinions on a lot of NBA shit going on. That's the deal. I don't know nothing about it,

but I told I jumped on the Golden State bandwagon, so. That's not even, man, their team is not even

fair now. I know, right. It's fucking ridiculous. That's why I jumped on. The Rockets would have a chance next year, but,

uh, I don't know. What are you going to do? Unless they grab LeBron. Where's he going? He's going, he's a Laker. Fuck.

Yeah. The Warriors is just basically what All-Star will we get next year. I know. For nothing, basically. I think what got me, I went to the championship parade in Oakland. Right. And usually I can give two shits about the NBA. But going to that parade and just seeing the Dubnation is what they call the other fans.

The love that they have for the Golden State Warriors, I just couldn't believe. It was my hometown, and my whole family is a warrior fan except for me. But now I am. But I was like, wow, I was amazed by how much how much they love the warriors. I mean, just in the Bay Area, this is everybody. Oh, yeah. I mean, you're like Yankees in their prime. Yeah, but it's been a long time coming, though, for a lot of bad years in Golden State.

Yeah, that's true. Because when I was growing up, there was Warrior fans, but not like now. That would be, everywhere you go, you see Warrior stuff. Before when I was a kid, I didn't see any because the Warriors sucked. Nobody cared. Nobody cared. They couldn't even give the tickets away. Right.

You got to, like, put a second mortgage on your house if you want to go to a game. It's crazy. There's the new Spurs, huh? Are we still doing cool, do we? Yeah. The whole return to the sports segment. Yeah, watch out with all these Laker fans coming out to what works now.

Uh-oh. Laker-Lebron jerseys. Yes. You're going to see them. I believe I read it's already like the increased by like 400%. Of course. Like jerseys for the Lakers because they're putting out those Lebron jerseys. Oh, I bet.

Like a 400% increase. What's, Is he give me number 23 or what's his number going to be? I believe so. He's 23. All right. Yeah, I don't know if anybody can take that away from him except Bulls. Right.

I don't know if boy who's going to run off. Well, man, I didn't see any movies this week. I've been like hosting people at my house and working. Was that your cool of the week? Your brother-in-law was your cool of the week, right? Yeah, man. He is super awesome. Is he listing?

He might be So I'm not going to say anything bad But No we had The whole Fourth of July thing And fireworks And did some Offroading with kiddos

That's uh I have not watched TV at all Except for ants And Ant Man and the Wasp That's it That's it Damn that's a first I know right

I've been Exhausted I guess so, man, working a lot too, huh? Yeah. All right. Go on an addicts in July, man. My cool of the week.

Brian, you nailed it, dude. My cool of the week is also my uncool of the week. And you know what it is. Yes, I do. What am I talking about, Brian? Uncle Drew. Oh. Uncle Drew.

I think we have a bonus episode coming up about that. Yeah, I'm not going to go into too much detail because we get another special kids. Bonus episode we recorded that'll go out in a couple of days but

no, it's one of those movies that's so incredibly stupid and just dumb, kind of like ants. It was actually

fun. It was a lot of fun to watch. So Uncle Drury was my cool of the week, but also not so cool. Well,

it was going to be my not so cool, but it got beat, actually, in that respect. Were all the big parts in the trailer?

No, there was actually quite a bit in it that wasn't in the trailer that gave me some giggles for sure. It was, it was, it, it's not bad. Look, it's a movie past movie. All right, Kevin? Dude, I had never even heard about this movie until you all started talking about it. It's worth the watch. It's definitely worth to watch.

Is that shit? It is what, it is what it is. It's Uncle Drew, it's based off a character from a, from a commercial, shoot commercials. Oh, okay, I got you. Yeah, like you see Pepsi very prominently displayed. Everybody's drinking Pepsi. Everybody's wearing knives. That's right, a Pepsi commercial.

It's basically, it's an hour and a half long Pepsi commercial. Exactly. I'm not mad at it. But it's fun. It's fun. Is it better than boo? It's better than boo too, but it's not better than the original. It's not better than OG boo.

O.G. But. That being said, it was going to be my not-so-cool of the week as well, but my wife is on this kick of watching a particular TV show. And I don't know if you guys have ever heard of this show. It's called Good Witch. Not even The Good Witch. It's just called Good Witch.

I think I've heard of it. It's on the Hallmark Channel. No idea what this is. I definitely don't know what this is. Do not let your wives know about this fucking Drek piece of shit. What channel? This is the worst. It's on the Hallmark Channel.

But it's on Netflix. Lance watches some girly shit sometimes, and if it's good, he'll tell you it's good. Dude, this is the worst pile of fucking garbage I've ever seen in my life. I mean, I've seen some bad TV shows. I've never seen such stilted dialogue. When the people are talking to each other, you can literally watch their eyes move left and right as they're reading the cue cards. Oh, no. It's terrible.

Like soap operas? Is your wife close by? Soap operas are fantastic compared to this. Soap operas, general hospital is like watching Stanley Kubrick compared to this show. Do what, Brian? Is your wife close by? It kind of seemed like your review, you kind of got quiet. No, man, I'm telling you right now, this is, this is terrible.

She is on the other side of the door somewhere. So I really, no, I really had no idea. I didn't even think anything this horrible could be produced. I think he got quiet again. And put on TV. Why would they even bother? I mean, it makes no smart channel, dude. Well, what was, was that something before?

It's always been the Hallmark Channel, right? I don't know. But it's almost as if it's like anti-programming. Who's in it? Do what? Who's in it? Nobody you've ever heard of. Oh, no, I take it back.

The one dude from Desperate Housewives, which was actually a good show. I'll be the first to do it. Desper Housewives was worth watching. It was good storylines. The guy that played Mike, I don't know if you guys have ever seen it, but he was like a regular on the show.

He was married to the really hot chick that was in like one of the Superman TV shows or something. I can't. It's been like... There you have. Yeah, yeah, there you go, brother. That's exactly right. He was the one that was married to her.

He's in this show, but he's so bad. And he is absolutely. Aged so much. He looks like 50 years older in this. It's just a terrible show. Can we move on? All right. Sure.

All right. Brian, save us with some horror headlines, man. Let's see. John Cresensky confirmed to be in a Quiet Place sequel. It's really happening. Is he like writing and directing and all that on this one? That has not been confirmed. the only thing that's been confirmed

is that he will be in the movie as an actor but I guess there's I'm guessing I'm guessing this is going to be a prequel yeah oh no why bother them but from what I but from what I understand

if the right people and the right script aren't aren't ready then he's not going to do it he'll back out the script has to be right you know what I believe him when he says that just stick with Jack Ryan.

Yeah. Oh, that looks awesome. Maybe they'll tie it into Cloverfield, huh? Hell yeah. I think I'm like the only one that didn't like jump on board with the

Quiet Place. It was all right. I mean, it was Yeah. Nothing's spectacular. I mean, everyone made it scene. I was just talking about it earlier today with my wife because the commercial came on and she wants to see it. And it's a good movie, man. Nez, dude, you have

got the most unique taste of any person. It's no witchboard, right? I can't read it. It's not at all. I can't read you. Sometimes you love movies that are awful. Sometimes you hate them and they're terrible. And then sometimes you're like right with everybody. I don't know.

There's no rhyme for reason. I wanted an alien invasion movie. That's what I wanted to see. I didn't get it. I think that's what I was kind of like, eh, it was all right. You got the aftermath. I don't know. I'll buy it.

I'll buy it when it comes out. Hopefully, there'll be some more explanation with the extras. So I don't know. Best buyers are going to have that steel book next week. Oh, damn it. I guess I'll get that. We know what you like this.

Let's see. It's slow news week. I'm guessing because ComicCon is. up. So, last thing here is MGM announces a child's play remake. Oh. Has nothing to do with the original series or the TV show coming out. Oh, wow. A little bit of news I got Norwegian filmmaker Lars Klebberg is going to direct,

and it produces David Katzenberg and Seth Graham Smith are going to produce. And it is being described as, let's see, group of kids a la stranger things and a technologically advanced doll that enters their world that's not all Rexman, Teddy Rexpin no, not our Lars

figured out of ask huh just ended they're jicking it with this 80s thing man I don't like this at all I'm I like the 80s nostalgia I really do but yeah I mean you can't drill it into every movie

and it seems like there's one coming out every couple of once. Stranger Thing's six, huh? Yeah. Yeah, I'm not with us

either. Little Andy kind of ruined it for me. Oh, meeting him. Ness? Did he talk to?

Yeah, kind of. I mean, I understand everyone's got to get paid. Hey, we all do,

but come on, bro. You can be a little a little more chiro. He didn't want to talk to you with that or not

photograph either, huh? I was like, all I wanted to, hey, man, I love the movie, dude, you're awesome. I wanted to do that, but it's kind of like, yeah, yeah, whatever. He's there to make money, not meet the family. What an asshole.

I'll be the first to say it. Fuck you, Andy. You're a little shithead. You're an asshole, man. Fuck you. Oh, I don't know. Maybe it was just a bad day. I mean, but I have read the people,

well, no, he's awesome. He's sweet, but I don't know. Maybe he just wasn't. He wasn't feeling me that day. Well, I guess we could probably kiss that Child's Play episode with the filmmakers. Nah, we should get man seen me.

Fuck you. Well, that's assuming he doesn't listen to our show. We already know Braddorf and Fiona are awesome. So. And on that note, that was all the news. All right. I'll be your friend.

to the end. We're going long on this show. All right, boys. You're ready to take a little trip? Don't I'll speak at once. I kind of want to stay and play video games. Little Andy, huh? All right, we're going to take a little trip down to the trailer park.

Assassination Nation starring Odessa Young, Lance's favorite Bella Thorne, and Suki Waterhouse. notice or it. Ah, okay. Okay. Directed by Sam Levinson. What did you guys think? Was this just a teaser?

It was kind of quick. Definitely a teaser. Yeah. It was a bunch of images real quick. Right. Yeah. Good effects, though. Looked all right.

I mean, I'll check it out. Yeah. I kind of liked what I was seeing. Kind of had that purge feel, but I don't know. We'll see. Did you get this before the purge? I got this one before the purge. Did you?

I got Halloween and something else. I can't remember. Well, sounds like we're all interested. Bodessie Young. I don't even know who it is, man. Yeah. I'm assuming it's the main girl who is at the end said, trust me, this is a true story.

Oh, with the swords. Fucking Penny Wise is in this movie. Really? Yeah. What's his name? What's his name? Does the Netflix talk show. They used to be talk soup.

Oh, Joel McHale? Yeah, he's in this too. You're fucking shitting me from community. Are you serious? Yeah. Oh, wow. Okay, I'm all in now. I really, I enjoyed it.

I enjoyed the trailer, and Phillips over here saying, oh, I hope it just doesn't get too political. That's the whole fucking point. It's making fun. It's poking fun at the, given the middle finger to the people who are being politically correct, I think, that's what I got out of it. We'll see. I'm looking forward to it.

I think it's going to be a lot of fun. I thought it was a really cool trailer. Just the way that they presented it. I mean, it was just a teaser, but they did a good job of getting me interested. It looks like kind of artsy, kind of quirky, which is right in my vein, man. I'll watch that. The trailer kind of reminded me when I first seen the trailer for, what was that James Franco movie? Spring Breakers.

Oh, I love that movie. Oh, it was horrible. That was really good. No, it was. That movie sucked. You didn't like it? No. You never know, man.

What the fuck? Yeah, when Nez, it's like rolling the dice. It may come up seven, it may come up with snake eyes, you know? This is why I didn't like it. I love Harmony Corrine, the director. He's made some amazing films. Okay. Gum old being my favorite one that he's done.

And I don't know, it just, it just fell flat. I mean, I wanted some weird craziness. Like he usually gives. There was some weird craziness. No, it was. Have you seen Gummo or Julian Donkey Boy? Donkey Show? What?

I thought they were headed that way there for a minute. Have you seen those movies? Brian, have you seen those? I've seen Gummo. Oh, man. That masterpiece. I definitely have not seen the donkey window no matter what they say. That one was crazy.

It didn't really, you didn't super slow. might have to check it out Spring Green. You didn't like James Franco as alien? No, he was stupid, man. And I like... He has scar face on repeat. Oh, so dumb, man. I didn't like it at all. I mean, what's her name's cute? Gomez girl, she was cute, she didn't do nothing in it.

Gomez girl. She looks weird to me. Her she's got a tiny young face and it looks weird. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Okay, yeah. she does. She looks like she's like 12. All the time. Yeah. Vanessa Hutchins is powerless. The

high school musical girl. Oh, Vanessa Hutchins. Yeah. Yeah. She's hot. Yeah, she looked good in it. But it just was slow, didn't go anywhere, and the ending was like so unbelievable. I was like, oh, I was mad. Sitting in a

theater by myself, mad. Well, I didn't see it in the theater. I did. I did too. I think I was by myself too. I liked it. Assassination Nation,

September 21st. All right. And on to our last trailer, we previously reviewed the teaser to it, but this was the full-length trailer of Summer of 84, starring Graham

Vercher, Judah Lewis, Caleb Emery, and Corey Grinter, whoa. Corey Grinter Andrew directed by I'm a believe these are Norwegian names, so I'm sorry.

I'm not going to do it. I can't do it. I watched the trailer. What was this about? I mean, what? I'm told it's being described as if the Goonies was a slasher movie. Why 84, though? Is there something? It's not like Summer of Sam or anything.

I think it's just the summer of 84. Huh. And killers living next door, I don't know. Wow. But I've heard a lot of talk about it through like the different film festivals and stuff. So sounds promising. It could be great. I mean, I'm just, here we go back again with the 80s nostalgia overdrive thing, you know.

They even had the fucking Stranger Things music playing in the background, the literal electronic soundtrack from Stranger Things. bit of a rip-off maybe. A little bit? I don't know, though. It looks like they did it pretty well. I mean, even if it's a rip-off, I'm not mad to seeing more Stranger Things. Stranger Things Season 3, aka Summer of 84. I'm down.

Oh, man. All right. Well, we'll be there. Any way you look at it, right, Brian? Yep, August 3rd. I think that was our last trailer. I'm hearing the first one is probably going to be in the theater

this one is going to be I think may probably limited release so that means I won't get it basically all right ak.a stranger things season three they don't want to fly that tape up to Alaska huh? No

the internet god damn yep everything's there oh the other trailer I saw before the was a computer one. Unfriended, dark web.

Oh, yeah. What do you think about that one? I love the first one. I thought it was cool. This one, I don't know, man. It looked cool. I'm hoping that it's going to be cool. So I kind of want to watch it.

It's on the docket, so. Yeah. I'm hoping for a Comic-Con screening because I know. I remember, was it last year they did Annabelle? Uh-huh. And there's something going on Wednesday night on the 18th down there. At a theater, they're calling it Scare Diego.

Oh, okay. They're supposed to, I guess, talk about it, the new one, show some scenes from the nun, and then they just said, and then a surprise. I don't know what that surprise is. Maybe it's a school. You know, it might be. I'm sorry, go ahead. It might be a screening of something.

I was hoping for the none, but then they already said they're just going to show clips. So I don't know what they did. It might be the sequel to the Gallows, because I heard they filmed that while they were filming unfriended two. Because I think, was it, no, I didn't go on any screenings last year.

I tried to get into, was it Palermo? Now it was a couple of years ago. I remember the last screening I got into his lights out. That was all right. It was okay. It was okay for what it was. Yeah, I'm hearing the Gallo sequel is supposed to be, they fixed all those problems from the first one. So.

I need to watch the first one again. I was kind of like, it's boring as shit. Yeah, I mean, the trailer made it look good and look all scary. And then once I was sitting there, I wasn't all scared in the beginning sitting in the theater by myself. But then I was kind of like, okay. Okay, something happened. I don't know. I need to find it.

I kind of felt the same way about that one. Yeah. So I think we're ready for a listener feedback. Brian's return of the Living Dead Post got a lot of responses from around the world. Mark Butzow says absolutely one of my faves. More brains. Yuri Tone Pabloito says,

the return of los Mueros Regarding the new Scream Factory Halloween Steel Books Tim Hernandez says that Halloween 2 cover is nice

Regarding E Society's post of their newest show talking about Demarchus cousins to the Warriors That's That was that deal. I just kind of threw in my two cents

because I don't even know who that is. It's Uncle Drew, man. Wait, wait, going back to the covers. Yeah. Man, I hate these bastards at Chow Factory, man. They get me. Now I got to re-buy both of those. Because it's got a new girl.

Yeah, I'm right there with you. you. I'm a steelbook guy and I'm like, damn it. And there's so many more horror screen factory steelbooks coming. I'm like, damn it, they're just putting out an eye of the demons, I believe. That I have to get

because you get that Angela figure with it. Oh, you do? Yeah. If I think you got to, it's like a limited edition. I think you can only go through their website and pre-order it. I can never get through on the website. Every time they put those out, boom, but by the time I get there, it's all gone.

Yeah. I remember a couple years ago at Comic-Con, they released, was it they live, escaped from New York, and the fog. That was their first skill books. I bought all three of those right then and there. I had no idea they weren't coming out for months later

because when I posted a picture of it, people were like, how'd you get those? They're not even out yet. Oh, I don't know. But yeah, man Damn it, I've got to re-buy those. The only Scream Factory ones I have are those Two, the Halloween and Well, I have a bunch of them, but out of the

Halloween movie, I don't have that big box set, but I like the covers. I did get the box set, but I'm still going to have to get the steel books. The artwork is really nice on those. Yeah, and I know if you pre-order those, you get the lithographs. They're amazing because the three that I bought,

all came with those and I just need to get frames for them. They're pretty good. They need a subscription service. You're just sucking your money out, man. It's like movie pass, huh? Are they going out of business or what? There is some new movie pass news we forget to talk about. I don't know.

We ask about that shit every week. Isn't that... I just want to make this show a little longer, huh? Isn't that one shit where they said there's going to be extra charges. Yeah, exactly, dude. That was the big story. What does that mean?

I don't know. Basically, okay, I'm... Luckily, I've got the one-year plan. I've got about six months left on it if they make it. But if you're on the month-to-month plan now, you're going to start seeing what they call tiered pricing. What? So, yeah, I know, tiered pricing, but I pay $9.99 a month.

That covers everything I see. Not so little grasshop. No, no. The tiered pricing is something new. So if it's like the first day of a movie or if it's a blockbuster, like for example, Friday if we'd go on to see Ant Man and the Wasp, you would sign in and it would say, okay, we're going to charge your credit card an extra $3.99 for this one.

Are you sure you want to go? Ooh. Yeah. Ouch. I don't know if I'm comfortable with that. Ouch. Oh boy. also I did not take a picture of my movie stub

I didn't either I totally forgot I totally forgot man we may be done here did you guys like read this the fine print before you bought these I mean it's a movie pass you don't have a movie pass do you nez I can cancel it I'm enjoying it while last

yeah none of it was there when we bought them dude they've changed all this they've gone back and added them man I don't know Yeah it's it's rough man It's getting it's getting tough Now fucking movie pass

What are you gonna do Damn where do we go with that Oh We were talking about your post man The uh That's the newest show Talking about DeMarcus cousins to the Warriors Uh

Stephen Loblad said Damn almost as fast as ESPN I think faster. ESP Trump's ESPN. Well, with that, I was at work and Theo texting, we got to do a show real quick. I said, about what? Whoever this cousin's guy is, I'm like, all right.

I mean, if you guys have heard it, I'm just like, I don't even know what the hell's going on. It's all him. He's all excited. And I was like, all right, whatever. news though, man. I would have, I would have been excited. I mean, fuck. They got him for

just under 7 milled for one year. Right? I'm not excited at all. The Rockets could have got him. Right? It's bullshit. Yeah, Rocket should have gotten him, right? Yeah, but we just re-signed Chris Paul to some $150,

$60 million four-year, some bullshit. I don't know. It's not fair. Should have gone out. He wants to rip. Why not get LeBron, right? Rockets could have, if they spent the money.

LeBron was always going to go to L.A. Yeah, I'm sure you're right, man. Primetime, right? Family wanted to go to be in California. Family comes first, and then he's got, like, a production company, and, of course, you know, Hollywood and everything. Oh, I guess that makes sense. But, man, the rockets are about as close to getting there as anybody else.

is. Yeah. Or they're not. Well, I know. We're still there. We're still there. Well, they're going to come in second. A whole lot now.

Yeah. Hey, James Harden, though, MVP. Right. There you go. Consolation Prize. Get that going for us, right? Hey, we'd have beat LeBron this year, too. Anyway.

Anyway. Oh, Kev, you, uh. posted on it too. He said, thanks to the Zizu, because I know jack's shit about basketball. Y'all know that. That's the Zisu. The Zisu. That's what I said, right? What I say?

Close enough, man. Close enough. Kind of like B.D. Germaine. My bad, bro. I'm really bad with names. It's awful. We listen to our show. I can't say nobody's name. Let's see. Regarding the movie Cold Skin. Mike Elric says it's already on the DVD here in the UK.

I still need to watch it, though. What is cold skin? I don't know. I don't know what that is. It's got Ray Winston, Winston. Is that his name? Yeah, Ray Winston. Yeah, and it's got somebody else.

It looks kind of like, I don't know, like kind of kind of gamuton-ish-type zombies are in the move. and they're like fighting them off. Yeah, they look like the, what are they, the White Walker's kind of. I think that's the trailer I watched. Frozen zombies. I had posted the poster on the Facebook group,

and he said he had already, the DVD was already out in the UK, so. It looks interesting. I'd watch it. Anyway, Tim Davis saw it months ago. Of course.

There you go. He said it's a decent film, kind of the shit. Look at the picture. Is that Keanu? It's like a naked Keanu dressed up as Jesus. He looks like Jesus. Yeah, you guys have to check out the IMDB pictures. What the fuck?

All right, and that looks like the Blackadder, the Rowan Atkinson TV show, where they did World War I. What is that? looks crazy. Lance is off the wrist. It looks like a Terry Gilliam. I don't know. He says it's a decent film.

It's kind of the shape of the water meets at dawn of the dead in kind of a way. It sounds interesting. That sounds like a strange combination. Beautiful cinematography and great effects, but the story could have been better. Wow. I guess we got to check it out. Well, there you have it. Cold skin, guys.

Check it out. Or if you're in the UK, apparently it's been out for once. You already have. More comments regarding the domestics. Art Callie says, wow, to Superman-related actors in the same movie. And neither has superpowers. Okay. Well, Art's a big Superman fan, so what are you going to do?

let's see regarding Phillips musical selection for the Australian show shit I'm reading this cold in case y'all couldn't tell already Patrick Lear says what the fuck not ACDC

oh that probably fuck yeah you're right no midnight oil no yeah midnight oil was on there B Jermaine says to be fair

Wait. Don't even ask me. He fucking embarrassed me on the show last week. Germine? Germine. He goes, oh. Germine. Germine.

To be fair with you, Lance, it's Gerrvine. Fuck, I just did an Irish accent. I'm done. Dude, yeah. So, Australian accent. Oh, man. It says, to be fair, men at work are the greatest Aussie band of all time. L.O.L.

Wow. And that's, like, coming from him, that's got some street. Land down under, man. That's a badass song. I don't care who you are. That first album's good. Right. It's as usual.

Let's see. Commenting on the poster for Meg. Gene Turner looks like Leave Your Brain at the Door movie. Yeah, that's for sure. Yeah. It says, I like Jason Statham when he's kicking ass, but I'd probably skip this one.

Me too. I'm so excited for this one. want to see it so bad. Hey, Nez, you ever check out any of Gene's reviews on YouTube?

Yeah. I watched a few of them the other day. I always comment on the ones I watch. I think he did. The last one I watched was Never Hike Alone. I love that one.

His junior reviews are awesome. But that movie was hell of good. I loved it. Yeah, that was the Friday the 13th sequel that wasn't really It was like a fan film. Apparently it was one of the best

Friday the 13th movies, right? Out of the fan-made films that I've seen, I mean, I've seen a few that were cool. I like what they did, but this one was just, to me, just like the best one. I know there's some people

don't think that, but I thought it was an amazing film of what they did of just kind of going back to the very first one. The campground didn't even look close to how it looked but for what it was man I loved it I thought it was awesome

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Thank you. I got a question. Brian, how did you pick this one? Oh, man. I don't know. You got some explaining to do, Brian? I don't know. I'm sorry.

Don't be sorry. I remember there was an movie, and I know there was an Empire of the Ants. There was two of them. I just went with ants. Oh. I've never seen this. Because it was a movie called

Ants. Don't forget about them. Yeah. This one's also called something else, though, right? Something at least. whatever. It happened at Lakewood Manor.

Even though the title screen of the one that I watched said Panic at Lakewood Manor. Wow. That's the third title. Oh, wow. Of the same movie, though, yeah? Yeah. I was so confused on whether or not I was watching the right thing.

I had the firepower in it with the stars, but... What? Why couldn't you just step on it? We'll get there All right, we're done You're ready to move on to Ant Man of the Was? No, no, no, no, no. No, no, Nass just covered the whole thing.

All right. All right, so in case you loyal listeners didn't know we're talking about the classic ants. Made for TV quasi-horror movie from 1977. Oh, made for TV. Director Robert Scherer. All right, Brian, you would think I'd love this guy, man.

Listen to this. also known for episodes of Star Trek the next generation Deep Space 9 and Voyager as well now if this isn't telling the future what is as well as a short-lived 1975 TV series called

Kahn description of the show Chinese American Private Detective Kahn investigates crime from his home base in San Francisco's Chinatown What? Nez, you want to guess how many... You want to guess how many episodes of this show lasted, Nez?

Two. Ah, dude. No, I double you, man. Four. Oh, well, that's close. It made it four. The writer was geared on true blood. Also known for tarantulas, the deadly cargo.

Ah, you guys have all seen Jaws 3D, right? Ooh, so good. There you go. There's our flame to fame right there. So here's the one piece of trivia that I could find on this movie. Stunt Man Conrad Paul Misano was buried alive for the film. At the beginning? That was my notes.

I don't know. That was in my notes. I was like, did they really kill someone for this movie? What did you read about? How the fuck is he still alive? Oh, I didn't know. I didn't read the anything. I was watching a movie.

and when the guy got buried, I was like, damn. Yeah. Is he dead? They dropped a load of dirt on his head. It says he was buried alive with only a garden hose for him to breathe air through. Oh, that's where they got the, we'll get there. This is only tried once. He would only do it one time, so they had to get it right the first and the only time.

a very dangerous stunt. Nez, you watched this, right? I seen it a while ago, a long time ago, when I was a kid, and I tried to watch it again. I couldn't do it. It was... Oh, no! Nez!

Oh. Is it that bad? I can't a hairsprayer or WD-40 and the movie will be over. Oh, wow. Right?

I mean, I liked I liked everyone, not everybody in it, man, but it had some faces that you knew. I mean, Robert Foxworth, the guy that played Mike. Like who? Who the fuck is this guy? I've never heard of him before, man. Did you see Prophecy? It came out like two years after this.

Oh, was he in Prophecy? Well, you got me beat on that, man. I don't know. He was the main dude, him and Tanya Shire when they were up in, uh, with those deformed bears. He's been on, he's been on a couple of Star Trek Enterprise. episode. I should know him. I should know him. He's ratchet. He's ratchet and transformers.

Oh, dude, you're blowing my mind, man. Are you serious? Yeah. Oh, wow. And you got, um, what, UN from Revenge of the Nerds, the Lambda, Lambda, uh-huh. Bernie Casey? Yeah, what's the name for, uh, of course.

Of course Bernie Casey, sure. So you're saying they had a pretty damn good cast. You got Brian Denny? Yeah, Sheriff Teasel from First Blood. Wow. You got Christmas, you got Christmas Snow from Three's Company. Suzanne Summers. Suzanne Summers, yeah.

Yeah, I noticed her when she first popped up. I was like, holy shit, is that Susan Summers? It just, oh, I mean, it's the 70s, and you do it, you make what you make. I just Oh man I mean I've never made a movie So I

I'm just Some fat guy talking crap But I don't know man Maybe these guys just needed a paycheck Hey man we're going to make this movie Anns or whatever hell you want to call it Right

And just act scared Roll It was not witchboard right I was wondering, how on the F, like, do they come to the decisions? Dude, we got an explicit sticker on our podcast. Yeah, I don't know. I think I've been around kids too long now. We just did that Uncle Drew podcast.

But how do they make the decisions that they make? Like how? Idiot. What is your thought-making process when there's... Killer ants. And your answer is to dig a moat. And they're not even like fire ants. Right.

Or red or those big ant workers. They're just like regular little house ants. Right. And that stupid kid that climbed in the dumpster. Barefooting. Oh, that was funny as hell, though. Lance. Yeah?

Hit that stupid people segment for this entire movie. Oh, yeah. No, there's a lot of stuff. stupid people. There's times when I'm like, get me statted. Why don't you just go the other way out the door away from the ants that are coming through the wall?

Right. The fireman. What about the fireman? Did you get the holes? No, the stupid people moment, when they're like, the ladder is like going up to extend. Why would they lift it all the way up? But then, when they're trying to lower her down,

why do they lift her all the way to the time? Even before that, which they did the fall. They didn't put it all the way to the wall. Can you not? Is that as far as it goes? Can you not drive the truck forward another foot or two? I mean, this seems really dangerous.

Like, what? If you're trying to rescue somebody. And then she's just like hanging by her hand. And then, like, what do we do now? Let's raise it all the way up in the air. Right. I was hoping she was going to, like, fall into a huge pile of ants or something. I was hoping for her, man.

I wanted to pay off. The ants are going to build a bridge straight in the air and grab her. That's why they were lifting it up so high. It's the only explanation I can think. I mean, all you did do was kick dirt over on these ants. And then even though they did it in a... Kick dirt on the hands. Literally.

That's literally how you had to do. But even though they did it in a dumb ass way, they got that first chick. She was escaped, right? I mean, it was a little hectic on the ladder and all. but she was escaped. And then everybody else was like, fuck this, let's go upstairs.

Because that's going to be our way out. That makes no sense. And they're like, they're calling in the chopper. Oh, all the choppers. Well, why did they make a moat? And then why couldn't they get the helicopters over across the fire mode?

Well, they were bringing in the helicopter, but then they didn't, like, go to the roof. They went to a balcony and tried to jump off and catch the fucking helicopter. These are dumb-ass people, man. I'm sorry. At that point, I was just, I could not stop laughing at everything that was happening. It was so stupid that it was hilarious.

Early in the movie, there was one point I have to admit where I was really praying that this was going to turn into a porno. When the chick showed up, the hitchhiker with a backpack. He said, she said, can you find me a room? I really need to lay down for a little bit. And he's like, I'll see what I could do. And I'm like, okay, this is the perfect setup for getting her naked. But she had never happened because there's a, Brian, you asshole. It was a made-for-TV movie.

God damn it, we couldn't even get titties, man. Jesus. They could have just walked away and this movie would have been over. Yeah, they could have. Put everyone on the fire truck and just roll away. And what about the construction boss guy? That was, like, he's... When he was breaking down the...

He literally caused the whole problem. He's somehow trying to figure out, even at the beginning, he's somehow trying to figure out why his buddies who got buried alive and are somehow still alive, but poison, are, like, why do they have a rash all over them, and why are they poisoned? And what's happened here? It's mind-boggling.

And then he goes to the little dirt site, where they were buried, and he's like, these ants, the seashell, I better do some more investigating. Like, dude. Why did he go in there with the, with that truck and start just going?

Oh, yeah. To prove the other guy wrong, he's like, fuck it, I'm going to destroy the hotel and runs through the ant pile. It starts them up, which starts the entire movie, which, Had to happen eventually.

So was he the hero or the villain? That begs the question. Was he the hero of this movie of the villain? Did he come up with the rolled up tube of paper that you have to breathe out of? Oh, the joints? Yeah, to avoid the ants. Like, I thought they were going to lay down or something and then hold it up in the air so that the ants wouldn't crawl up it or something. And then, no, they were all sitting up right with, like, pieces of paper in their mouth like that.

That was... He said, Don't breathe. Don't breathe. And then they all continue... Don't turn the thing of more and breathe. And then they all continued talking and moving around and fucking around. Look, of course we all knew the one douchebag guy was going to have to get up and panic, right?

He had to die. Well, yeah. Typical horror movie trope, right? I'm glad he died. We all are. Even though this movie sucked, I was ready for him to die. The most. You know what?

I hate to say it, but I'm kind of ready to go watch this movie again. I said I wouldn't. But you know what? This was kind of fun. And you know, a lot of silence, guys. I thought it was fun, too. I'm sorry. This was really, really, really bad.

But it was, I think it almost falls into that so bad it's good category, just because the writing is so bad. It's like a segue into the next week or something. Each scene is completely separate from another. They're just like jump around like that. It makes no sense. The whole movie. Right.

It's like the room. I've never seen the room. It's bad, but it's good. Yeah? Yeah. So if you like really bad movies, this one is for you. Oh, I mean,

yeah, it was made for TV, but at least give us sorry to be a sexist pig, everyone, but at least give us a nipple from that summer. That's what I'm saying, man. I mean, even poking through a little shirt, she does that shit all time, right? Because when the hands were all over her, I mean, like, show something.

I told you, there were some pretty hot chicks in this movie, man. Not to sound sexist, but yeah, fuck it. I'll sound sexist. When you started talking about it being a porno, I was like, oh, Suzanne Summers, okay. It could have been a little more interesting then, right? At least. Hey, so Suzanne Summers, because I'm going to ask this question later.

Would you? Dude, please. Of course. You wouldn't. God damn, dude. Is she the one on that poster with the lady holding her boobs together? Yeah, that's on it. Okay.

Yeah. All right. I got no problem with that. That's why she's in the movie. Right. Because she was only in it for 10 minutes. What about that asshole that was with her though, huh? The guy trying to make all the money?

There were two different guys, right? I don't know. I honestly don't know. There was her dude, and then I was confused on which one was trying to buy the hotel. It was pretty messed up, dude. Yeah. It was pretty messed up. I think I tried to look too much into it.

The real draw here is that. the tens of 20s of ants that they hired to climb all over these things and then re-film it for 30 times. Were they real ants or was it just like painted on or something? Yeah, but a lot of the scenes... Was it CGI? A lot of the scenes were just like stock footage of ants crawling over shit and they would just show that exact same scene over and over.

It's pretty bad. They just took a handful of ants put them on them. All right. Action. Yeah, right. Oh yeah And then like when they have a whole arm full of ants Have you ever fallen in an ant pile?

I don't like it. Slapping one ant at a time is not how I react to that. I'm jumping around and screaming like a hysterical three-year-old girl. The whole movie is ridiculous. A couple of jumping up and down, all of them would fall off. And then you can just walk away and be free and be safe. No, they're like... At least the kid in the beginning that ended up getting...

He didn't die, right? Because they wouldn't kill a kid in a TV movie in 77, right? They said he was, quote, unquote, recovering in the hospital, right? Oh, he didn't die? No, I don't think so, dude. I wanted him to, but I don't think he did. At least he had this good sense to jump in the pool, right? But he couldn't...

him. And that other motherfucker tried to jump in the he was in the pool for what? Two seconds

and then when they pull them out it's knocked out I know right CPR time really you do suck at this unbelievable man

but then they like showered people fans with a helicopter at one point that was pretty good wow I can't believe we're spending so much time

who is in charge at this operation well Brian Brian did How do you guys come to this decision? Why don't you just walk out of the building? Denny he was like panicking, wasn't he? We're trying to get people in helicopters to you.

Give us 30 more minutes. Confidence, man. That's how you... Oh, man. That's how you gain public office right there. This is rough, man. Go walk down to the shore and you're getting a rowboat or something. I don't know.

I can't believe. we're still talking about this movie. Who greenlit this? Who's the... This is going to be awesome. Who threw their money at this? All right, listen. I'm going to go ahead and start and give my score,

so fuck you guys. I'm going to say, I'm going to give it a... I'm going to give it at least a five, which is way... Wow. Way better than it actually is, but it gains a whole lot of points

because it's really so dumb that it's entertaining. Yeah, I'm with you right there. That's what I was thinking. I mean, look how long we've talked about it, and we all hated it. To be fair, yeah, five, just because it's something that you're going to stand around the water cooler and just tear it apart, like we just did.

So, yeah, five. That's two fives, man. Brian, what do you think? Well, I can't do that. This is the worst fucking movie I've ever seen. I again, apologize for picking this movie. I give it a one. It took me a week to watch this movie.

The first time I was green as shit watching this movie, it didn't help. It did not help. What about, okay, to Jennifer, you remember that one, right? Uh-oh. That may be the worst movie I ever watched. I sent you a message about that, didn't I, Brian? yeah but okay i'll give it i'll give it a two i'll raise it okay i was i was wondering which one is is worse in your category so two jennifer is worse yeah because no oh shit i got to think about

that think about it we'll come back lans all right yeah i can't i i got to give it a two man because there was some yeah there was some fun to watching it and i kind of only joking, half jokingly said I would want to watch it again. I kind of would. It was kind of so stupid and so dumb and so fucking horrible. I mean, it was horrible. It wasn't bad. It was horrible.

Yeah. It was horrible. But it was kind of fun, horrible in a way. I don't know. I kind of looked forward to watch. I was watching it on YouTube. This may have something to do with it. I watched, I found the version that showed some chick that was

what was her name? I think I sent you guys that link, right? The one that I watched on YouTube, Nez? Yeah, I was about to bring her up. I don't remember her any... I was going to say Misty Knight, but that's from Luke Cage. What is this chick's name? Misty Night?

Yeah, no, this was... You got a lot of porno going on. Uh-oh. No, dude. Ah, shit. Anyway, she was like an Elvira rip-off. Oh, okay. And that kind of added a little comedy to it, you know?

Watching the little stuff. Here we go. Misty Brew. Misty Brew. If you guys get a chance, if you're going to watch this movie anyway, watch it on YouTube. It says Misty Brew presents ants.

It happened at Liquid Manor. And she showed like, she's kind of like an Alvira ripoff, so she has little fake vignettes. Philip, why are you looking at me like that, dude? No, no. I'm listening, man. I kind of had fun.

to be honest with you. And then she would show horrible old ant commercials. Like they did, the ants go marching one by one. Hurrah, hurrah. And then you go, raid! Ah! It would be a raid commercial. And then it would, yeah.

And then it would be like ants at a picnic saying, hey, hey, George, you want to go up there and go get that turkey leg and bring it down here for the gang? You know, yeah, it's like every fucking cliched ant commercial. And piece of shit, old 1960s and 70s garbage, they would show between the movie. And I'm babbling now, aren't I? For a movie this bad, you've got to have some production value. Yeah.

That sounds like they were trying to present it in a way where it wasn't awful. It was a little fun. I have to admit it. I give it a two out of ten. Well, there you go. So, uh, only watch this if it's, you're really looking for a shitty movie. Yep. Fair enough.

You should have went with Empire of the Ants, man. You can't go wrong with that movie. Is that one good? I thought it was another fucking version of the same movie. They got more different novels. No, this one's even more badass. I thought I was going to watch like the gigantic ant movies from like the 30s or some shit. Oh, no, is that Empire of the Ants?

No, the one year, the black and white one is them. Empire the Ants is these ants get into some radiating. active material on the beach. I want to say they were in, like, Florida. And Joan Collins was in it. Oh, that's when she was hot. And it's, they get giant. And they may, they be Joan Collins, and I can't remember who else.

They're trying to sell a swamp land to all these people. It's a giant ant raping a woman. Look. See the picture of the poster? The giant ant. And they like take over the whole town and like hit methampton. The queen aunt Swartz some kind of dust or

Smoke on you and you get hypnotized This This movie is awesome I love it I love these giant Monster Insect movies Not so much the spiders I can't handle those

But It's It did This movie is at least entertaining Not ants where you're using Really Dude, they stay, it looks horrible, but when they use actually real ants and they do the 70 special effects to make it look huge. And then they, then they made giant ants.

And dude, it's so awesome. I mean, I love the Godzilla ants. That looks so bad. So bad. Oh, and you got nipples in it. Look. Dude. I love Empire of the Ants.

I'll never forgive you, Brian. Well, this will be on... You got some... This is B2 territory now, man. This will be on Ant Man and the Wasp 3. Okay, if you guys want to do pick 70s, giant monster movies, pick this one. Okay. And pick food of the gods.

Oh, that's the one with the rats, right? Well, there's like giant everything in that one. Oh, look, they're raping them. man, look. Wow, that's, that is sick. That is some sadistic stuff. You're in some weird porn at this point. Well, look at this, man. What website are you on?

Well, you're looking at it along with me? Look, he's giving it to John Collins up the poop shoot. A fucking ant. Holy shit. All right, we're going to take this one out. You've never seen this, Lance? No, no. Holy crap, dude.

Yeah, we're in. We're in on this one. Oh, wow. All right. Empire of the Ants, Brian? When can we see it? Next week. We'll work it in somehow.

All right. It's a million times better than the end. You all ready to move on? Yep. Director of Peyton Reed, also known for the breakup and bring it on. Not feeling good here, guys. No? Right, and here we go again with the writer-by-committee formula that, you know, I love so much.

Riders, you guys ready? Pull up a chair. here we go. Chris McKenna, Eric Somers, Paul Rudd, Andrew Barar, and Gabriel Ferrari. Ferrari, for real? I feel like all these people... Is it a matchbox Ferrari, though? I feel like all these people are comedians. Probably. Aren't they? Jesus Christ.

All right, trivia. Sharon Stone was considered for the role of Janet Van Dyne. director of Peyton Reed stated in a recent interview that he went back and rewatch all of Michelle Pfeiffer's movies all of them just prior to working with her sounds like he felt the way about her that you said you did earlier Philip oh yeah Michelle Fiper was looking good in this one and this is the 20th film it's a milestone we're at number 20 20th film to be released by Marvel students for the new Marvel Cinematic Universe. So,

Naz, I know you saw this movie, did, because I saw you all's post on Facebook. You saw it early, right? Like Thursday or something? Yeah,

we went to Thursday night. The Zisu picked up these special tickets. I thought it was going to be like the double feature or whatever, but it wasn't. They just gave us cool little popcorn tins and a cool little cup. You thought it was.

Yeah, man, I liked it. You thought it was going to be a double feature with ants? I think I could have stomached ants on the big screen, but no. I liked this one. I liked it better than the first one. Really? Yeah, I mean, I loved the first one. And I didn't even want to see the first aunt, man.

My son wanted to see it. So I was like, all right, hell. All right, let's go see it. And we both loved it. This one I was really excited for. I love Evangeline. Lily. She's awesome. I loved her since lost. Michael Pena's badass and pretty much everything he's done.

Paul Rudd, I mean, I can take him or leave him, but he's Ant-Man. I can't see anyone else being in tank for a while. Was Michelle Pfeiffer, like, a surprise? Because I didn't really want to see too much or read into it of what was going to happened in this one. No, she already, she's been casted or cast in this movie.

Sorry. Okay, so everyone knew she was in it. Yeah. Okay, see, I didn't. And when she popped up on the screen, I was like, oh, yeah. And I love Michelle. She was looking good when she popped up on the screen, too. Yeah, I love Michelle Fifer.

I've liked her since Greece, too. And, oh, my God, she's aged well. She's beautiful. and oh man I just oh yeah but I mean

I like the deaging technology in this movie oh yeah they marvel Marvel's got it down pat I think I mean

another character later I didn't really see that much deaging but yeah well I mean they did it a couple of times and man spot on

I'm telling you and I don't think that that's any kind of spoiler territory. The creepiest looking one, it wasn't in this movie, was when they made Tony Stark get young, Robert Downey Jr. Oh, yeah.

That one looked kind of creepy, but I mean, I liked it. I mean, they did an excellent job in this with Michael Douglas and Michelle Pfeiffer. They did it to where I didn't even notice it. I was just like, wow. Oh, shit, they're younger. For a quick second,

of Michael Douglas's lips didn't look too good, but it was just like that. It wasn't like... I was really looking... I was really looking when they made them look young. I thought it was cool. But all the acting this was good.

I liked the new character they gave us Ghost. I thought she was cool. I think other than the action and all the whole high stuff, I mentioned this on our quick little review. The thing that I love most was about

Scott, his relationship with his daughter. I mean, we're all dads and we love our children. No matter what the cost was, he was still trying to be the best dad he could, I mean, for his situation being on house arrest and

couldn't do nothing. I mean, I thought that was like the biggest superhero moment for his character in this. I mean, he he loves his daughter I mean we all love her kids but he still he couldn't leave his house

and he just wanted to be there for her and I loved that her her excuse me his ex-wife her mom they still had that cool relationship but I mean other than Ant Man and the was I thought all the other background characters

were awesome Michael Pena and his crew yeah Michael Douglas he's badass and just about everything and Lawrence Fishburn I was hoping that he had had a bigger part, but I did like what he did in this. And the girl that played ghost, I thought she did a really good job.

And I loved the special effects of her when she was disappearing. It kind of just reminded me of those two twins and... The Matrix? Yeah. Yeah. It reminded me of that. So, I love that special effects in that film. But overall, man, I thought this film was awesome.

Like I said, I thought it was better than the first one. And after the downer, that was Infinity War, this was kind of a pick-me-up. I mean, I laughed my ass off through everything. Yeah, like a comedy relief, right? Yeah, I mean, that scene when Michael Pena was telling the story, oh, my God. Best scene in the movie. Yeah, that. Don't get too far into it because we're not into spoiler territory.

Yeah, I just want to just that scene. but yeah overall man this movie was badass Philip you didn't quite have man quite as good to take the way right I had this one I'm gonna start it out with it was kind of just okay for me it was uh

I felt like they made Paul Rudd a little more of I don't know he was such a badass in the first Ant Man because I was like Paul Rudd kept me an action hero what the hell is he doing and then I saw the first Ant Man and I wasn't really expecting much. But he pulled it on. I loved it. I loved the first Ant Man. This one

I don't think is even close to as good as that one is. They made him, they took away like all his badass stuff. And you know, he was a good dad and that was kind of his superhero through you know, identity through the whole thing. But he was sort of

goofy otherwise and didn't really know what was going on. He was Paul Ruddy. Yeah, well, I mean, but he He lacked the confidence that I felt like he should have had. Because I feel like in the first one it was more of like a cocky, goofy thing that he had. And he didn't have that in this one. The little girl was super stinking cute. Man, like, because, you know, sometimes kids get kind of annoying on screen.

Like that girl from, I don't know, the Annabelle movie. The one that got run over. I'm telling you, dude, no, not that one. The main girl. You give her a break. Wow, I sound like an asshole. Anyway, but this one was, she was super cute the whole time, and I fell in love with her. I think it did have a lot of good things in it.

I enjoyed myself, as long as you don't really think about it too much. Right. And it was kind of the comedy relief. to the big dark infinity war that just happened. But Ant Man is kind of a comic relief character, and now he has a whole comic relief cast. And so this turned into a, like, just straight up comedy, and it wasn't as funny as, like, Thor Ragnarok was.

I felt like some of the jokes, just because they were so rapid fire, every character had a joke on every line that, I mean, you can't win them all, you know? So some of the jokes just sort of fell flat. And some of them were really, really legitimately funny. But there were just so many of them, it was kind of hard to keep count, you know? Right. So, yeah, I mean, it was good.

But I feel like in a couple of years, we're going to forget about this movie. Yeah, there were a couple of scenes that I thought really stood out. And I'm not going to spoil anything, but I'll say one of them involved trying to retrieve something somewhere. And another one involved a serum, some type of a serum. And that's all I'm going to say. Those were the two best scenes. And there's a thing that happens at the end of this movie that makes no sense at all. I'm going to talk about it in spoilers because I was like, what in the hell is happening here?

There's like a plot twist that should be there and is not at all. They never came up with a plot twist. I know, no. All right, well, other than that, I'm going to say it's pretty milk toast. I mean, the whole time I was watched, I was thinking, five out of ten, five out of ten. When they got to the scene where he was retrieving that item in that, in the school, I have to say it, but we won't spoil anything.

That was amazing. That really got me going, and that was a high comedy moment. And then the other high comedy moment involving the serum got me going. But I don't know, man. other than that, it was just kind of like two hours of trying to get through the movie. I hate to say that, but sorry it has, but to me, it was just kind of like another comic book movie. What did you think, Brian? All right, I'm here to bring us back up.

I thought this movie was super fun. It was action-packed. And I did just listening to Boe, everybody talked about Paul Rudd in this. I was a little down on how he portrayed his character, but really think of it. about it. He, I kind of felt like the character's pulling back on the shit he does because there's consequences now to what he's doing. He's, he's kind of out there now because everybody knows. Everybody knows Captain America. Everybody knows about Germany. And that's, I, at first, I was like, yeah, he's, he was, because I thought the most badass Ant Man was in a civil war. Right. And I kind of

felt like he's a little bit pulled back. And now just listening to everybody talk, I thought, I kind of feel like that's why. I thought everybody, I thought the supporting cast was great, except for Walton Goggins, who played another blah, vanilla, bland villain like he did in Tomb Raider. And I really like Walton Goggins. And I think, like, it's not a great movie. But what is the movie with Jesse Eisenberg and The Mouth Breather Girl? what's her name from Twilight?

Ah, where he's this stuff? American something, right? Adventureland. No, no, no, no. The action movie they did. Yeah. Yeah. I've never seen that movie.

It's pretty good. Yeah, I like Walton Goggins in that one. Is he a bad guy in that one? Yeah, he's an assassin. Oh, shit. That movie shows me how he can play a villain. And then in this one, he's just kind of, he's almost like the character from Vice Principal.

but not but not but not as much he was just there I wasn't mad at him but he had no reason for being in this movie ever yeah he could have completely taken him out and it wouldn't change anything um Evangeline Lily as the was

badass um I don't know what else to say um his bringing back Paul Rudd's crew Scott Lang's crew I thought they were all funny um I thought they all were in the movie enough, especially like Ti and then the Russian guy.

It was in the movie enough, not to be, you know, too much. And, uh, yeah, I loved it. Kids have fun. Oh, so you, so you really enjoyed it then, huh? Yeah, but it's not, I don't think it's better than the first one. Yeah.

Yeah. Yeah, so, Nez, you, you think it is better than the first one. Uh, me and Philip were, like, really disappointed with this one compared to the first one. And Brian, you think it was a little worse than the first one. just a little bit. I wouldn't say worse, just not as good. Not as exciting or whatever. Yeah, the only thing I can say is I took my grandsons to see it.

Like I said, you guys will hear our podcast about Uncle Drew later, and we're going to hit on this one. But I do kind of miss being a kid and having a crush on a chick the way they were crushing on the chick that played ghost. Really? And she is a cutie thigh, man. She is. I'll give her that.

I've never seen her before, but man, I've got to see this TV show Killjoys that she's in. We've seen, she was in a Ready Player 1. But vaguely, barely. I saw that in the credits, but I don't remember her in that one. She was Ben Mendelssohn's little right-hand. Oh! Yeah. she was the bad guy

yeah the one that would always like go do this dirty work for him oh shit I do remember that now holy crap all right I think she's got a big career ahead of her man she's a good actress I thought she did pretty well in this role

a lot of the acting I felt like was a little cheesy though maybe it was just me I think this is your Thor Ragnarok I really didn't, I didn't enjoy Thor Ragnarok that much. You guys loved it, right? Yeah, that's why I'm saying. This is Phillips Thor Ragnarok because you didn't like it.

And he's a little down on this one. Okay, that's cool. Whatever works, man. I mean, I think we all enjoyed it. None of us is going to say, if we couldn't go back and use our movie pass and go see this movie, we wouldn't have done it, right? No, you can't. You know?

Movie pass won't let me watch the same movie more than once. I know, right? You've already seen all these movies. You can't go anymore. Did any of you see it in 3D? No. Did you? No, I didn't.

I thought about it, though. I'm going to go see it on IMAX next. Yeah, there was some visuals that I bet if you were green and you went in, they would look super, super cool. There's some really cool fight scenes in this. Yeah. Even though most of them are in the trailer. Most of the movies in the trailer to be sure. That was a little out of control.

I felt like every time a cool scene popped up, I was like, I've seen this before. Including the, I'm going to spoil this one. The way, okay, there's two after-credit scenes in this one. I'm not going to tell you specifically what they are yet. but the one that's way, way after the credits, after the screen goes black and there's just white names going across, dude, don't wait around.

You've seen it before in the trailers and in the movie, and it is a ridiculous waste of time. It's not worth the extra 10 or 12 minute wait, huh? The mid-credit scene, though, which was awesome. While they lead you there, too, is very entertaining. That whole credit scene that they do, I thought was really cool. And then, yeah, the mid-credit scene. credit scene, you have to watch that.

It is... Ties into... Probably most of what we'll be talking about on the spoilers, I would imagine. Yeah, but that very final scene, yeah. If you're still listening and you haven't seen the movie yet, just after

that first, after credit scene, go home. Yeah. Is that safe to say, Ryan? Yeah, I'll speak on it when we get the spoilers. All right. You guys ready for scores? Yeah. Who's first? Nez?

I'll give it an 8. Not a 10? No, it wasn't close to a 10. All right. I didn't see Tony Catane in here. We get to spoilers. I'll give you my complaints, but I still loved it. All right.

Eight's a good score, man. Oh, that's me next. Man, I'm going to go, I don't know, man. the more I think about it, the more I'm going up on my score, because I, at first, was slightly disappointed. I think Brian's talking me into it, to be honest with you. And, like, it was definitely funnier than Justice League, but it definitely wasn't as funny as Thor Ragnarok,

even though some of the characters, Michael Pena is fucking phenomenal in this movie. I don't remember Justice League being funny. That's what I'm saying, but they tried to be. Oh, yeah, well, yeah. with the sexism of Aquaman. Every goddamn joke they had. Oh, you're awkwardly a woman or whatever. Crickets.

Oh, yeah. I'm one of the rare. I like that movie, and I thought it was funny. Justice Lee? See? I liked it, too, man. I'm telling you. I liked it. I didn't find too much humor in it. I mean, I like that scene where they were

all in the submarine or whatever, and he was like, it was all kinds of comedy in that. I liked it. I thought all that worked. Something I got a most. I got to rewatch it. I don't remember that movie.

In this one, like, most of it worked and some of it didn't, I feel like. Which is cool. I still really enjoyed it. You know, it's not going to be my favorite Marvel movie, and again, I'm going to forget it in a few years. When we talk about, you know, which movies are the best in the MCU, this is not going to come up. Even though I do feel like it probably has some really cool implications for Avengers Swark. which we'll talk about in spoilers I'm going to say

six and a half on this one that kind of hurts to say it's low for me that's low for you man I know I did enjoy it though man it's a fun watch yeah I'm going a little lower I'll go six

because like I said I was five the whole time but like I said those two scenes got me up to six for sure and it's more of the comedy than it's any of the action or the actual plot and it really was just a breath of fresh air from all the heaviness of Infinity War and that it was meant to be and then that after-credit scene which we'll talk about later that brought everything back down again to reality but

we can't talk about it yet anyway moving on Brian what do you think that I'm gonna I'm gonna I'm gonna go seven and a half I like the action love the characters, love the supporting cast. And like I said, it just, to me, it wasn't as good as the first one. So, seven and a half. All right, so guys, if we had a chance to see Ants again or Ant Man and the Wasp again, what would it be, Ms?

Empire of the Ants is what I'll watch. All right, we're going to skip them both. All right, y'all ready for spoilers? Yeah. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. He's going first. Real, real quick. People do not watch that second credit scene because it's in the fucking trailer. Right? It was. Philip said that earlier today.

That's dumb as shit, man. They showed that. They showed him on the drum. said earlier. Right. They did. It was, I mean, it was a different scene because he didn't have the thing on his leg, I guess, but it was the same exact thing.

You've already seen it in the movie and you've seen it in the trailer. That was an end joke. That was like giving the metal finger to people who stick around for all the after scenes. It might have been. I mean, I thought it worked. I mean, it was funny because he had the headphones on. I didn't know ants had ears. but um

is that you need to learn your ant physiology they're they're sensors that's what the little antenna is for that I don't think they I could be wrong someone by yawn at me

but it tied into that little quick scene I mean you see the television with the emergency broadcasting there and you can hear

basically nothing outside and then the ants he could give two shits on what's happening And he's busy rocking the drums. I mean, I thought, yeah, it was a waste of time because you got to wait all the way to the very end. But I thought the little scene, it was what it was.

I mean, I didn't hate it like you guys did. But, yeah, I liked it. They should have had Brian Denny's show up with the fire truck, man. Oh, Jesus Christ. Well, we know they're not going to stop him. We're going to build a boat. Oh, man. What did you guys think about?

I've never heard of this, I've never heard of this, this villain or whatever ghost, but they say apparently she's a villain. If you read the comic books, she's not an Ant Man villain, right? She's a villain of somebody else, right? Well, neither was in the first movie, neither was, what was his name? What was the fuck? I can't even remember the villains. Yeah, because that was the alter ego of Hank Pimp.

that they made into a villain. Yeah, so. They change stuff for the movies. Okay. See, okay, so I feel like if they're going to change stuff for the movie, that they alluded, I think, a couple of times, and maybe it'll come into play later on in the MCU somewhere. But, uh, uh, Ant Man's wife, Michelle Pfeiffer.

Mm-hmm. Like, that maybe she had been... I don't want to fuck. Whoa. But, dude, okay, listen. Let's be honest here. Come on. Oh, Iron Man, she's an Iron Man villain.

Ghost is. Okay. Oh. Yeah, go ahead. Well, that may come into play later, too. Yeah, Iron Man. Okay, cool. She wasn't really a villain, though.

I know, right? That's what I'm saying. Yeah. She was just trying to get... Survive? Yeah, so that's why she was trying to steal all their technology. I mean, it wasn't like she was trying to kill them. but time out

Michelle Pfeiffer would you here we go here we go boys Greece to Michelle Pfeiffer catwoman or now right now Michelle Piper oh of course

of course point made as soon as I saw in the movie and I mean because the first scene that you see her in is she's like deaged and looking like

oh is that Michelle Piper That was like married to the mob, Michelle Piper. Yeah. Oh, okay. And then they show her later in the movie, and you know, she's aged 30 years. And my first thought was, yeah, I bet she'd be real fun. I could be wrong, but at the very end, when they show her again, I think her aging

slowed down when she was in the quantum leap or whatever You think so? I think it should have I don't think it should have I don't think it should have This is just me watching the film I'm not too sure

Because she looked a lot older At the very end Oh okay I didn't pay attention Maybe it was just something that I saw Yeah it kind of looked like that Oh but back to my tangent Yes

I got to finish the story. So she said a few things in there, like she was changed by, you know, being in the... Evolved. Yeah, for 30 years, right? So, I mean, as long as you're changing comic books, oh, she would have been a really kick-ass villain. I mean, it might set up because, okay, let's go to that end credit scene where he's going back into the quantum realm. Yeah. that's a whole other because it's in a combo what do they call it like the microverse yeah like there's

there's a whole other universe there as you've seen with the with the creatures attacking uh Hank pim's a little chip or whatever it was uh I figured they were just little single cell organisms or something well that yeah there's supposed to be like a whole another universe in there somewhere so I don't know they're going microverse yeah I don't know that is in the comic books i think i've read that before good yeah i don't know if they're going to connect it or not because i know that can all the quantum round that that that'll connect to like dr strange and all that all that kind of stuff oh yeah

this this this is this is why my score actually went up a little bit i only gave it another half a point which that may change in the future um but i think they're alluding to a lot of really cool stuff and avengers for you think there's a way to defeat Thanos? I think especially in that very last little after credit scene when before they all turned to dust from the snap

she tells him something about watch out for the time vortex in there or whatever. Oh I wasn't paying attention to that. Maybe this is deeper than I thought it was. Something about he could pop up in any any time or place or whatever. Oh wow Ant-Man's going to save the galaxy.

Philip, Philip, you're on to something because there are there was, I believe, earlier set pictures for Avengers 4. Yeah. And everybody, all the Avengers addressed how they was in the very first Avengers movie. Yeah. Well, and that's why I had already heard that there was supposed to be some kind of time warp for the next one. And this may be how they do it.

You know? I think they gave us a cool little piece of the puzzle. It just, it sucks that it was kind of an after credit scene. Right? He can go back to Captain Marvel era. Because when that comes out, Oh, the 80s. Yeah, 80s or 90s.

I can't remember what they said. Okay, okay. Maybe we're figuring it out here. Of course he will. You guys just figured it out. Oh, what did I give this movie? What score? It's going up.

I gave it a 6. Did you get 6? Yeah, I'm going up 6 and a half. Easy. And with this scene, I think I had in my theater, the only person that didn't see Infinity War. Because he yelled out, when everybody

turned to dust, he yelled out, what the fuck just happened? Maybe he forgot. He really looked like he was, because he just had his hands up in the air, like, what the fuck? Okay, here's a question for you guys.

Got too high. Here's a question for you guys. Did you think that it was going to someone was going to disappear? Yes. And who did you think? Because I called it. Wait.

Oh, like, when they all disappeared? Yeah. Oh, my, I had no idea what they were doing. No. My conversation with my wife, we were talking, we thought it was going to be Hawkeye. Our, Hawkeye's family. And this is why, this is how he comes back into the fold. Wait, what?

Because you don't, you didn't get Hawkeye in the last Avengers movie. Yeah. So I thought to. Yeah. I thought the credit scene was going to be him with his family and then his family turns to dust. But that was wrong. That would have been pretty cool, man. Because before the movie started, we were, we were both thinking, like, it's going to be something to do with Infinity War because Ant Man wasn't there during all that.

So, yeah, I didn't, I didn't call Michael Douglas and Michelle. for us. I said, watch the wasps going to disappear. And he was like, no, no, Ant Man's going to. And then as soon as it happened, I think I was the only one. I mean, everyone seen Infinity War, but I was the one that slipped out. I like screamed.

Ah, I think I yelled a lot. Like, oh, shit. And then I didn't realize I yelled that loud, but oh, my God. I yelled that because all three of them disappeared. And I was like, oh, my God. And this is where I think that,

in the next one or maybe even in Infinity War. What's his name? Furious, Stiles. The Barrio King. What? What's his name? Michael Pena? No.

Lawrence Fishburn, Murpheus. Oh, yeah. I think he's so strange at first. I think he's going to, I think, this is just what I think. he's going to come back and help Scott get out of there. Is he going to be Goliath? Because he didn't know, I mean, right now nobody knows their technology. And Lawrence Fishburn, he was partners with Michael Douglas.

So he at least kind of gets what's going on. So I think. Maybe John Wick will show up. Now you're on to something because just like Michelle Pfeiffer did, maybe he'll speak to Ghost through the Quantum Round because they have that connection. Yeah, so I mean, I think

they're going to bring him back because I was like, he's this huge star and you're only going to put him in there for like a minute. I mean, so I don't know, maybe they're going to bring him back in to help out. So I don't know, we'll see. Do you think Ghost is going to be back? I hope so. I thought she was

an awesome character. I mean, quantum realm stuff, I think this is I think this is the key to what's going to happen in Avengers 4, you know? What about the end, though, when she, like, fixed ghost and everybody was just happy all of a sudden? What the hell? Yeah, I didn't like that.

She's like, how do we fix this? Oh, I'm just going to touch your head. Because that was the one thing I didn't like about that, her character. Because she spent years of going through all that pain. What did she say? Like, her molecules were, like, being ripped apart. hard and sewn back together constantly. Yeah. And then she gets cured and then

they all run out of the building like they're like the best of friends. Yeah. I was waiting for a freeze frame for them all jumping in the air. Yeah, and they could have played that what was the, was that Partridge family they was playing? Yeah. Yeah, play that song as they was like jumping

in the air or something. I mean, her character, I mean, I liked it. I mean, I wish she would have been a lot more in it, but I think some of the things that mainly her character you have this awesome

character that they can go through walls and stick her arm through your body they could have did a lot more with her but I think when they were bringing in Walt Gagins and all of those his crew yeah yeah because she did badass

she did badass stuff like when you first when she first gets a hold of Hank Pim, like she's got her arm phased through his neck. Yeah. Basically, I can just, I'll just, you know,

phase my arm right back in and it's like, right through your neck. And I like, that was some bad ass shit right there. Yeah. I mean, I wish they would have did a little bit more with her. If they felt in Godgans,

though, I liked him in this, but he takes up so much time for such a pointless fucking character. That whole plot line made no sense. It should not have been in the movie. They needed a... They needed a bad guy.

That's why they threw them in it. That's what ghost is supposed to be. But it was like a... I know she wasn't really a bad guy, but she was kind of the bad guy for this movie, and I think that they could have got away with her being the bad guy for the movie and not had Walton Goggins in it at all, even though I like his character. How did you guys feel about Michael Pena's hair in his prison flashback? That was the question.

That was the best scene in the movie for me. That shit was hilarious. It's Michael Banya, just narrating the entire thing. That's a little truth serum scene. Yeah, that was great. It's not true serum. That was pretty funny. During that whole...

During that whole scene, the best character that pulled it off good was Evangeline Lilly. Yeah. She had the head movement and everything just on how he sounded. Oh, my God. I could watch that thing over and over. I also like the Russian dude. Total recap of the entire Marvel universe at this point.

I think that would be great. Yeah, I also like the Russian dude, his whole story about Baba Yega. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they just kept like going, you know, they were like, okay, and they went back to talk and you just hear him in the background, Baba Yeager. Those guys were really funny. I thought T. T.I. T.I. is a whole lot funnier than I thought he was, man.

I like T. I didn't like it in this movie You didn't like him? No I think he was used just enough He was two guys I just didn't like what they did with Paul Rudd man He was such a badass in the last movie

And he just wasn't in this one He couldn't I mean that He couldn't because he was under our house arrest He's still a badass He doesn't want to disappoint He said everything he always tries to do Good he messes up

Yeah I mean he couldn't do it because he didn't want to go back to jail. And he wanted to see his daughter. So he did what he had to do by just staying on house arrest and trying to be nice. I mean, he was actually in the first movie and Civil War. And then everything he did in those two movies is why he's in the situation he is in now. That's why he was like, I can't, I got to be there for my daughter.

So I'm going to put this ant man aside and just be Scott Lane. Yeah, but it played through too much in his attitude, too. I think he didn't have that same confidence. Like last time he was goofy, but you knew he was a badass, so it was cool. And now it's just goofy and goofy, and that's it. If things go how I think they will, I think that badass will return, because for all we know, his daughter might have turned to dust too. I think that she did not.

since we're in spoiler territory anyway they have casted somebody to play the grown-up version of his daughter Oh, because she turns into a superhero too Yeah I believe it's stature Is the name of her character?

Yeah That's what it is I'm not like super familiar with it But yeah they cast somebody to play See did I say cast it too Is that bad? Is that what we did? Yeah. Anyway.

So they cast this chick to play her in Avengers 4. So my theory is that maybe the Ant Man pops up in the future and runs into his daughter. Huh? Wow. Something. Maybe everybody turned to dust except for her and she was able to pick up the suit and use it for her. I don't know. Maybe I'm reaching.

Anything's possible, man. But she's definitely going to be in the movie, so I don't think that she turned to dust, hopefully. As a cute-ass kid, she reminds me of my little girl. Well, I think another quick scene right before the ant playing the drums at the very end, I loved how it said Ant Man and the Wasp will return, and then a question mark popped up on that. Question mark, right?

Yeah. Well, especially after the other, you know, after credit scene, because the Wasp turned to dust. Yeah. I mean. And, I mean, we'll see. I mean, we shall see. That scene just, it just, it blew me away.

And I, my fingers were crossed that there would be some kind of tie-in to an Infinity War. And what they showed us I was happy with. I mean, I was so good. Me too, man. We got our money's worth. I, I didn't think there would be. I thought this is like a totally separate thing, you know. And I think, I think the whole.

point of this movie talking about, you know, this quantum realm stuff, because everything was quantum realm in this movie. They threw quantum in front of every word out there, which I think was one of the... And they made it in joke about that. You know, just throw quantum in front of everything?

And I think that they did that so that they could set up you know, the second part of the Infinity War. And if that's the case, it makes this film a whole lot cool. That's true. That's true. If they tie that in, then this film is all of a sudden a seven and a half.

As a standalone thing without all the little Easter eggs, it's okay. Did you guys, I was watching this when the building shrunk down to a little suitcase size? I was wondering, is everything in that building bolted down? I was wondering the same thing, especially when she broke the window with the building. I was like, whoa. I think it was ghost that had it, and she, like, broke the truck window. I'm like, yeah. Or is that when it gets big.

No, I mean, it is a movie. I mean, everything doesn't have to make perfect sense, you know? It has to. Yeah, but, I mean. This isn't ants, Naz. But, I mean, I get it. You can suspend belief for movies at some point, but for stuff. like that it's like wow yeah

because everything in that little tiny building would have been torn to pieces yeah I mean you got important equipment in there the little quantum funnel that that's something that you're going to need I mean explain that hey we bolted it to the ground because

we're going to make it small and run with it and throw it all around and I don't know that's just me nitpicking at it because that was ever since I saw that in the trailer I was like okay they better to explain this in the movie and they didn't. It was cool.

I thought it was neat. And I did love the little hot wheel container with all those. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I thought that was awesome. Did they do that in the last one or was that was just this one? No, they didn't even have no shrunken vehicles in the first one. Okay.

Yeah, that was really cool. And I thought all the little car chase scenes were kind of awesome. Yeah. Action was good, man. Like, see, it was a little. little cheesy and stuff, but y'all are damn near talking me into trying to raise my score to it.

Another thing that made me laugh, I mean, I know San Francisco pretty well and where they were driving around, and then when they go around the corner and they're way on the other side of town, I'm like, no, no, every turn they made,

I don't know, that's just being nitpicking again. I know that city, so I was like, wait, wait a minute. Yeah, a lot of it is. And I think if, yeah, if you go overboard with it, you're going to find, you know, stuff in almost every movie. But in things like, you know, the Marvel comic universe and, you know, Star Wars universe and Star Trek, stuff like that, dude. Marvel Comics is reaching that level now. You're going to get that shit. You got to be more careful.

Yeah, and this is the last MCU movie of the year. We're not getting Captain Marvel tonight. next year. Yeah, March. Yeah, so I was kind of like, I was bummed. That's a long way. Yeah, we're not getting anymore for a while, so. But the way it ended

and the way Infinity War ended, hey, man, it just be more excited for the next film. Yeah. I don't know. But again, overall, man, I thought this movie was awesome. I loved it. Yeah, I mean, I'm getting there too. I think I'm really excited for Paul Rudd in a supporting role character

where he belongs. Sorry. Moving on to the Fourth Avengers movie, right? You never know. It sounds like he's going to be the main... Between him and Captain Marvel, it sounds like you're going to be the two big heroes. Well, he can be the sidekick. From the way you guys are putting it.

He's awesome comic relief. I mean, fuck, dude. I mean, you're blowing my mind, dude. You know, what you guys said? Wow. And they kept saying quantum in front of everything, and it's like, that's the key. That's the key right there, right?

There it is. Wow. Some kind of time travel. That's how they do it. All right. So as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of the horror returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. Be sure to follow us at...

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There was like one guy that was being a douchebag at some point. He's gone. Yeah. Yeah. All right, Nez, what's up with your stuff, man? Yeah, if you guys want to hear me some more A yap about this and that Go to iTunes

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And all those shows are the longest ones so far is probably in like 30, 40 minutes. Usually they're like 10, 15, 20 minutes. It's really quick shows. You can hear all that there. And yeah, that's about it. And again, you guys rock. I love you guys. It's always cool to come on here.

And just laugh around because I need to laugh. You're probably a show, brother. Yeah. Thank you. Thanks, getting us. We're glad you and Brian brought us back up, you know, our scores higher and brought us back up up to normal C or whatever on the Ant Man. stuff because I think it is a lot deeper than we thought it was man.

I think we're being harsh. So, definitely. It was hard to infinity war, man, and then you throw this one in there. And it was just, other than it was kind of quick. Yeah, it was tough to match it up, man. Yeah. I felt what you guys were saying. saying though. I'm definitely glad

that they said that he was on house arrest two years from the Civil War so that kind of did match that matched the timelines up a little bit yeah because I was kind of struggling with that but yeah I'm excited about the next movie definitely excited about Captain Marvel

and super excited about Avengers 4 which I never thought I'd say that yeah my fingers my fingers across that I can get into Hall H at Comic Con for the Marvel Yeah, good luck.

Yeah, if I don't know, I mainly want to get him for Halloween. That's going to be there. I know God's the King of the Monsters is going to be there. I don't think Marvel's going to have a big presence there. I think it's mostly DC. The DisneyCon, D, whatever. D.23. Yeah.

All right. I don't know. We'll see. well next next week we're going to talk about uh is it so bad that it's good Brian what the fuck do you plan for us man we are gonna have our this this was inspired by ants this is this we're gonna have our first are they really that bad episode I think I'm excited about this we are going to review house of the dead by directing great uve bowl first one

Yes. The video game movie. Oh. Also, we are going to review a leprechaun in the hood. Which one? The first one. Not back to the hood? No.

What? And, oh, yeah. And finally, we're going to review Stephen King's sleepwalkers. That was actually pretty good. I remember that one. Oh, I got what to say about that then. Were they like cat people? something. Yeah. There's

like incestual cat people. Yeah. Oh, I didn't remember the incest part. That'll make all the difference. Leprocon in the hood. Ice tea never wants to talk about that, but I think he just needed a check.

And House of the Dead, I'm one of the very, very few. I love that movie. Second one's even all right too. I've never seen the second one. I didn't know there was a second one. It's a video game. Sticky fingers from Onyx.

He's in that one. Oh my gosh. Really quick. The TV Blade. Speaking of Blade, if they bring it back, they need to get that dude from the first purge, the Ratbroke guy.

Yeah, you know what? I was thinking the same thing. I saw Blade when he was in action. that's what kind of action that's what kind of action moves he was doing in the movie yeah he was I thought that was Blade

I was looking at it from back here it's the Matrix alright on that note