The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #111: Is It Really THAT Bad? - Sleepwalkers (1992), Leprechaun In The Hood (2000) & House Of The Dead (2003) (Reupload)
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Welcome back, another week of the horror returns
But this week's going to be a little different
This was Brian's idea
So you guys either send in your accolades or your anger directed at him.
I like it.
Yeah, we're back.
I'm Lance with me as always.
Co-hosts Phillip, Brian, and Perennial co-host, Kevin.
What's up?
Kevin Nez.
Yo, what's up, everybody?
I'm back in the place to be.
I know you just heard me last week, but I'm here again.
Are you back in the hood?
Not yet.
Would you say you're up to no good?
Oh, no.
I'm Ned.
Sorry.
Started early.
So you're headed for Comic, uh, Comic Con, huh?
Next week, we're heading out either Tuesday night or early Wednesday morning, but we will be there.
East Society and McNaz will be there.
So you guys got any plans in particular or just got to kind of let it, let it happen?
happen. Yeah, just let it happen.
All right.
Doubt I can get into Hall H. That's like impossible now.
I really want to get into the WWE panel.
I think that is Thursday. I'm not too sure yet. I haven't even looked at the schedule.
I just want to get down there. But there's going to be a lot of stuff going on.
And we're going to bring it all to you guys day by day when I have a wrap-ups every day.
So if you guys don't listen to our anchor feed, if you have the anchor app, or if not, we're also going to be on iTunes.
And then later on, I'll tell you where else you can hear all that Comic-Con stuff.
For the regular feed, that won't be until after we get back home.
Cool.
All right.
Well, we'll be listening, man.
Where's that at again on Anchor and iTunes and everywhere, right?
Yeah.
I should have had all that pulled up.
but I know it is Anchor, Cast Box, Google Podcasts, I believe that's what it is, Spotify, Radio Public,
and something called Breaker and Overcast.
Oh, and Pocketcast.
Damn.
I have no idea what those are, but that's where our show is.
For the regular feed, regular E Society, McNus, big guys, that's on either Podbean or iTunes.
All right.
The separate stuff is all the shortest shows.
But, yeah, we're going to give you our Comic Con 2018 wrap-up every day.
We're going the first three days, Thursday, Friday, and Saturday.
And Sunday's usually just if you're a collector, everything's pretty much gone.
by then.
I know Sunday is called Kids Day,
so it's just a lot of smaller things geared towards the little guys.
But if you're down there, man, there's something for everybody.
Even if you can't get in, there's a ton of stuff going on outside.
So feel free to come on down and have fun.
Is there anybody in particular you want to see?
Right now, I don't know.
I really don't know who's there or who's going to be there.
Yeah, I mean, out of all the small little small,
press and everything. I always run in to see.
I always go up and talk to
a, excuse me,
Tromas Lloyd Kaufman. He's always there.
He's always a good, a good guy to
talk to. As well as
Full Moon Features guy.
Charles.
He's always there. I always go up and talk
to him. There is something
I want to get from there. For those of you
sci-fi fans that know the movie Laser
Blast, they came out with a little,
I think they're like three-inch figures,
the alien figures from that.
I'm a huge laser blast fan, and I just couldn't believe they came out with their own little figure.
So that's a must get for me.
I know there's a lot of Funko stuff.
If you guys listen to East Society, you know we always do all that.
We couldn't get tickets to be in the Funko line.
I don't know.
They did it all different this year.
So I don't know.
Zisu is mad.
Because you got to get a special ticket to get in their line just to buy the stuff.
you can't just go stand in line
that's ridiculous
man come on it's
that's what they do
every big con i've gone to that's how it is
Seattle new york
san diego everything
right everybody is after all the funco stuff
and even hasbro which is
impossible to get into
but i don't know there's there's so much stuff
there i mean i'll walk by and look but i don't
i'm not gonna lose any sleep if i don't get any
other exclusive things i mean
For right now, the main thing that I'm going to be looking for is just either vintage Star Wars stuff or more Jason things I can add to my collection, my Friday 13th collection.
That's all I look for.
Surprise there's anything still Friday the 13th you don't have already, man.
No kidding.
They keep making new shit.
That's the problem.
Yeah, there's so much stuff.
What I really want are those master replica things, but I'm not a high-year-old.
roller right uh do you have like the full costume yet you should get that you should tell her get that
i'm too buff to be that jason yeah i think the world's ready for a bit a buff jason come on there you go
all right man well nez what's what's what's what's your cool of the week man uh went saw ant man
again uh my son and my wife saw it they they loved it that was fun um i started a rewatch of
Sons of Anarchy because
That new show is coming on
My ins, I believe.
The other, I think it's
Southern California
Motorcycle Club.
They're not a gang.
They're an MC motorcycle club.
When is that show, Brian?
Do you know when that's coming on?
Not completely sure,
but I think August or September.
Okay.
Yeah, I've been
reading some stuff
on that and then I said
I've seen the whole series
I know there were seven seasons
I got through the first season that started
at the second season
I know the outcome of the whole
series but a lot of this
I must have forgot because I'm
like oh wow
yeah it's an awesome show
and I'd love to see
what this new Mayan show is going to be about
I know it's going to be more about that emce
but I mean they have to bring
in the Sons. And I want to know
is this going to, Brian, do you know if it's
a prequel or after
the, spoiler alert,
after the death of Jacks?
Oh, there you go.
I think I heard it.
I think I heard it's a little
bit of a prequel.
Because they're supposed
to be a new character that's coming
up. And I know the guy that played
Marcus, that was the head of the
minds from Suns of Anarchy, he's going to be on
the show. So. Who's going to
watching. I'm going to watch it. Yeah, I watched all the suns. Yeah. Hell yeah.
I'm going to say I will, but I probably won't. Yeah? Yeah. What did you watch this week, Phil?
Man, I had a couple of things. I had a not-so-cool of the week, speaking of our bad movies list. And they're not on the bad movies.
Okay. Which, by the way, they're all bad. Spoiler alert. 15-17 to Paris.
Oh.
Fucking...
What's that?
Clint Eastwood is telling the story of those guys on that train in Paris that stopped the terrorist attack.
I've heard bad things about this movie.
Yeah, dude, I was really looking forward to it.
I had never really heard anything about it.
I just saw like a commercial for it when it was coming out and never got around to see in it.
And I knew that, you know, the guys that did it were actually playing in the movie.
so I didn't expect a lot of acting stuff from them.
But yeah, I watched it, and it's awful.
It's so bad.
But, like, you can't even get into so bad that it's good territory
because it's not entertaining at all.
Like, if you watch the last 20 minutes in the movie, it's not bad.
But the first, like, hour and 10 minutes is terrible.
It's the most boring shit I've ever seen on a movie.
ever and Clint Eastwood directed it
even like the child
actors are fucking awful
like dude what are you doing
in your director's chair he's just
like he probably can't hear him so he's just
like smiles and nods at this
point is the only thing I think of
I mean
not to take away what what these
heroes did
but yeah I mean the
the stuff leading up
to the train
I was like
is something
going to happen?
I know what they were trying.
I know what they were trying to do,
trying to just let you know who each of these guys are,
but I was just like,
I was like bored.
And I was just like, wait.
All you want to see is what happens on the train.
And then when it finally gets to it,
it's like bang, boom, bam,
over.
I was hoping it would be like a,
like a real tense thriller kind of movie.
And it's not that at all.
It's awful.
Like, yeah, don't do that.
Don't even talk that.
Yeah, it's not even worth watching it because it kind of disgraces the whole event, which I thought was really cool.
Well, what's wrong with Clint Eastwood lately?
The next movie he's doing, I'm looking at it up, it's called The Mule.
You guys get this, a 90-year-old horticulturalist and World War II veteran is caught transporting $3 million worth of cocaine through Michigan for a Mexican truck cartel.
I guess he's back to acting after all.
He's losing his mind.
Somebody needs to take over his estate, I think.
He needs to give me one more dirty Harry.
Oh, wow.
Oh, that'd be cool.
I'd watch that.
This is what I want if they were to do that again.
He's done retired.
He's just sitting relaxing somewhere in San Francisco.
I say his grandson gets involved.
trying to live up to his grandfather's legacy.
Right.
Then maybe Clint has to step in at the end and give us one last,
make my day or something.
Yeah.
That's what I want.
Oh, wow.
A good dirty hairy clothes out.
I like it.
And then I watched, I tried to watch a ghost story again because it's A-24,
and everything I've seen from them has been really awesome.
Yeah, Thomas had a lot of good things to say about that.
And it's got Casey Affleck in it.
And to be fair, I mean, I really have only gotten through the first 10 or 20 minutes of it, but it is...
And I don't mind slow movies, but God, this is so...
I mean, maybe it gets better later.
I just haven't made it that far yet.
Not having a great week, Phil.
I'm telling you, man.
You got to trudge through the shit.
I'm going to finish that movie one day.
Yeah?
Man versus
I had a couple of them this week, sorry
Man versus on Netflix.
Okay.
It's like
that Bear Grills show
but it's like a
fake version of that
with somebody else and
it turns into kind of like a
predator knockoff a little
it was
okay.
in very sci-fi movie
Yeah
The only thing cool I've seen so far this week
Is Westworld
I finally started on season two
I'm back into it
It took a couple of episodes to get going
The first two episodes are real like
Oh let's talk very
You know
Cerebral and try to get metaphorical
With everything
And then
After the first couple of episodes
It gets in
to like action and and asking questions that you want answers to and stuff like that.
Of course, they don't answer them or not yet anyway.
But that one's looking pretty good.
I think that's about it for me.
Finally.
Yeah.
A little bit you, Brian.
I got a few things.
First, we've got to do a little bit of the sports returns.
Shout out Daniel Cormier, two-division champ.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, very unexpected how the outcome went.
I didn't expect it.
I believe it was a minute 30, a minute, something like that,
until the first round won by knockout.
But the awesome thing.
Yeah, the awesome thing was Brock Lesnar came into the octagon.
Got a little shoving match, a little shit talking.
And hopefully Brock can get that ass beat in January, I'm hearing.
I don't know, dude.
Daniel Cormier and Brock Lesnar, I mean,
They're both kind of wrestlers and Brock Lesnar is twice his size.
Yeah, but one thing I've always noticed, Brock does not like to get punched in the face.
That's true.
If you go back to the last time he had a belt and lost it, which happened to be Cormier's teammate, Kane Velazquez, as soon as Brock was getting tagged, he started covering up, turtling up.
Well, yeah, but he can't punch like Canemolasquez can.
Yeah, true.
I don't know.
And the other thing I'm glad about that is
if he's coming back to the UFC,
maybe he can give up this WWE title.
I've never seen a fucking champ
in pro wrestling that does not show up on TV for months at a time.
I know, right?
Bullshit.
He's not even going to be there tomorrow for extreme rules.
Yeah, I don't like it.
Is Ronda supposed to be there?
I'm behind on Smackdown and Raw.
Uh, she'll make an appearance.
She had that, that, you know, they set up the suspension thing.
So she'll probably show up and interfere and.
Okay.
We'll see.
Hit somebody with a chair?
Yes.
Yeah.
I guess, uh, last week or sometime, they had a live show at Madison Square Garden.
And, uh, Ronda was up against, uh, Nia Jacks.
And man, both of them.
I mean, I'm shocked on how good.
um ronda's doing because i was just like uh what is she doing this for the check now man i think
she's uh she really gets into it and she she sells her moves and when and the bumps as well
and uh just a little quick little videos i saw on instagram of them going at it man i thought
she looked awesome as well as naya i mean yeah she's a big gal and uh but she was hanging in there
with ronda i mean it was funny when she was giving her the blows to the gut but um
I can't wait for their next pay-per-view match because that stupid idiot Alexa Bliss.
I don't want to get into that.
I was so mad.
Money in the bank.
Alexa, if you're listening, I hate you.
Oh, no.
She's pretty hot, though.
But would you do her?
What?
I think she falls into the I wouldn't kick her out of bed category.
I'm pretty sure.
I don't know.
Any of them that are wrestling right now.
now.
And I checked
out the first episode of the new HBO
show Sharp Objects
with Amy Adams.
I can't really
break this show.
It's only one episode, but it's
interesting. It's basically a reporter.
She's kind of got, you could tell she's got problems.
She fucking drinks through this entire episode.
She gets asked by her boss to go do a
story, which happens to be in this little town.
that she grew up in, which you can obviously, from her reaction,
she does not want to go back to this town.
And it's to do a story, I guess a little girl was killed,
and then another one ended up missing,
and they think it might be a serial killer.
And it's looking pretty good.
It's kind of slow, but it's looking pretty good.
It's also got, what is her name?
Sophia Lillis, Lillis, Lillis, from It, Beverly.
Yeah, she, I'm standing by.
she's going to be something special.
Yeah.
She plays the younger version of Amy Adams in the flashbacks.
Oh, interesting.
Yeah, so so far, I'm liking it.
I can tell it's going to be a slow burn,
but I'm going to hang in there.
And I got one not cool of the week,
and that's, I tried to tune in to the Joe Bob Briggs' last driving.
Here we go.
Marathon that they had on Shutter.
and I guess the
amount of people that was trying to
stream it was not allowing anybody
to stream it. So
I got to watch
a little bit here and there and
my shit just kept blacking out basically.
Oh man, what a shit. Yeah, and I guess
this is the last one he's going to do. It was going to be a 24-hour
13 movie marathon on Shutter and
I went online and there was just
a lot of people that was just pissed off.
Oh, wow.
One thing I heard, Shutter said they are going to re-show it like a week from now in its entirety.
But it kind of defeats the whole live streaming purpose.
So, yeah, that was my not cool of the week.
Yeah, that's a shame.
But, you know, you got to give it up for Joe Bob, man.
He still has the ability to crash Shutter, huh?
Yeah.
After all these years.
Yeah, my cool of the week hands down.
I've watched a lot of good stuff this week, too.
A few really good shows wrapped up.
But the big one for me continues to be The Handmaid's Tale.
You guys gotten into this yet?
I'm trying to talk my wife into it.
We're looking for a new show and I think I might have to go it alone.
I'm not convincing her.
See, my wife loves it, but I only catch pieces of episodes here and there.
So I know bits of the story so far that have happened throughout the entire thing, but I haven't watched it completely yet.
Yeah.
Nez, you checked it out?
No, not yet.
I eventually will get to it.
Yeah, it's strong.
It's a very powerful show.
And it's far and away the scariest show on TV right now.
It's more horror than anything else on.
Yeah, I was just about to ask you.
I read, I was reading.
something online, they said that it's got a lot of horror elements, especially the new season.
Yeah, it's straight up horror, man. Especially if you put yourself,
these people are just trapped. I don't want to, you know, spoil anything or give it away,
but it's, it's, you know, the typical, you know, not really necessarily post-apocalyptic,
but, you know, sort of a fucked up future. A couple of things happen that kind of get the people to
top of the American government.
And it's just, it's, it's a bad situation for everybody, man.
It's, it's crazy.
Especially the women folk.
Yeah, and it's got you wondering, you know, if something like that could ever happen.
Nez, you were going to say something about it?
I've heard nothing but good things about it.
A friend of mine, she watched it, and she was telling me that it's probably something
that I would like because she knows all the things that I,
that I watch.
So, yeah, I'll eventually, I'll eventually get to it.
I think you dig it, man.
I don't want to say anything about it at all because, uh, half the,
half the fun is just all the twists and the character changes and stuff.
So, yeah, Handmaid's Tale, if, if you aren't on it now, uh, anybody, you should check it out.
I think anybody would love it.
But that's, uh, that's the cool of the week.
Uh, besides Joe Bob's deal, Brian, any other, uh, any other headlines?
Let's see.
season of Walking Dead, they said, is going to have a Western vibe to it.
Walking or Fear the Walking? Are you sure?
I like that idea. That's what I read.
Okay, that's weird because Fear the Walking Dead kind of turned real western in this last
half season. That's interesting. Yeah, let's see. The third John Wick movie is now titled
John Wick Parabellum. And Parabellums is said to me, prepare for war.
Okay.
All right.
Done.
All you had to say was John Wick.
Let's see.
Stallone's next Rambo film starts filming in September.
Hey, yo.
Basically, from what I'm reading of the synopsis, he is going up against the cartel.
Oh, he's going to be a giant-rebel.
He's going to be a million-ish-old.
yeah
hey uh
Brian did you see that
the last one
the what was it
escape plan or whatever
what's that one
uh escape plan to
Hades or whatever
yeah well
how long how much is
was he in it the whole time
um if I had to total it up
I probably say maybe 10 15 minutes
oh
yeah it's it's not about him
it's it's about like
his protege so right how much of Batista
even less oh no
why are they on the cover then
because they're more famous than everybody else in the movie
50 cent even gets top
top villain than the other guys
how long is he
probably even less than Batista
well that's what you do with the
mediocre budget
You spend it for like 15 minutes of a big guy and then make a movie with little guys.
Let's see, Joaquin Phoenix Joker movie confirmed.
It starts filming September.
I have no idea what it's going to be about.
It has nothing to do with the other movies.
Yeah, we're getting two Joker.
Yeah, two Joker movies.
Why?
I have no idea.
I mean, this one sounds more in.
I mean, you got Todd Phillips directing, Martin Scorsese, producing.
And I hate to say it, but I wasn't a huge fan of Jared Leto as the Joker.
Yeah, it seems like they're trying to go for bigger actors.
I know they were trying to get Francis McDormant to be in the movie.
But I have no idea.
And I like Jared Leto.
I feel really bad that I don't like him as the Joker, but it wasn't very good.
I didn't mind him.
I mean, he was more of the pimp.
Joker, but
Yeah.
Yeah.
I don't know
about
Joaquin Phoenix.
I mean,
I thought he was
retired,
or was that all
a,
I don't know.
He's still,
to get us
to go see that movie.
I think it was.
He's still
doing a lot of movies.
Yeah,
I'm confused.
I know he was up
for Dr.
Strange and he
turned it down
because he didn't
want to get locked
into a franchise.
But now he's
the Joker,
so.
He's a little
more artsy
than most
most of those
guys, I think. And maybe this is just a one-time, one-off Joker movie. I mean, not likely, but we'll see.
I don't know. I mean, of course we're going to see it. I mean, I guess we'll just wait until we see it because when they cast it,
um, Heath Ledger and a dark night, I was one of those ones. I was like, what? Really? And didn't,
I couldn't see it. But after his performance, oh.
it's hard for anyone to top what he did.
Yeah.
And it's,
it's hard for me to say that
Joaquin Phoenix is not going to do a good job.
I like him in pretty much everything I've seen him in.
Yeah.
Let's see.
Scarlett Johansson's Black Widow movies moving forward
with Australian director Kate Shortland.
And Lance,
I believe you watched one of her recent movies,
the Berlin Syndrome.
Yeah.
Oh, boy. I hope it's more exciting than that.
You thought Ant Man was a side character.
You're going to make a whole movie out of Black Widow?
I don't know.
We'll see how that goes.
Let's see.
Denai Guerrera, we all know her as Michone, is in talks to join Godzilla versus Kong and Star Trek 4.
Oh, all right.
She's going to be all the franchises.
So she leaving the walking kids, too?
You know what?
She's got this.
in the Marvel universe.
I think...
Yeah. She's getting a lot going on.
Yeah, I think she's going to leave
here soon. She's just stacking
her dominoes, man. That bitch is going to get
paid. Wow.
Let's see.
Jeremy Renner
joins the upcoming Spawn movie
as Detective Twitch Williams.
Not familiar with the character,
but I know a lot of people
have been talking about this character, so...
Mm-hmm.
Hey, Jeremy Renner's cool.
yeah a little bit of star wars news i didn't want to bring it up because i'm just so tired of people
with the hateful comments right ridiculous okay billy d williams is confirmed a return for episode
nine right and i've heard comments on our facebook group that oh this is just further further
destroying the star wars franchise i was like how willy williams is in it yeah it's
destroying it the fuck is it matter with you people out don't see
see it. All of you that are complaining, stay home.
Keep it simple. Just don't want you. Just don't want you. Stay home. Make your own.
I mean, we can complain about it. I'm sure they're going to kill him off if history has told us
anything, but still. You never know. He's too smooth. Also, uh, go ahead.
Oh, no, that I'm too smooth.
Carrie Russell is a rumored to be joining in the cast as well. A lot of people probably know,
her from the Americans
TV show.
Sure.
I know her in the 90s.
I know her for
when you pull up the kid.
What?
What?
Yeah, she's the babysitter.
She's the babysitter.
Uh-uh.
What are you talking about?
Didn't she do, uh, was it
Felicity or some shit like that?
One of those fucking movies, CW movies
in the 90s?
I can't help you out there.
Sounds about it.
I think it's a,
same chick. Felicity?
Felicity was the show she was on.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
It was part two to Honey I had trunk
the kids. The second one was
Honey I blew up the kid and she
was the babysitter. I had no idea
she was even in that.
Speaking of
I was going to say only on the horror returns
where you hear about Honey Eye blew up the kid
and Felicity. In the same
sentence. Speaking of
Carrie Russell, I met her
in the elevator of our hotel
one year for a
Comic-Con. She had met my
son Eric earlier, and
when she saw him again,
her and her, I don't know,
her, I don't know if it was her handlers or
one of her friends. They were
like, hey, here's our friend, and they were pointing
to my son, and my son
didn't even know idea who she
was. I talked
to her just for a little bit, and I elevate her ride.
She seemed like a nice chick.
Mm-hmm. Cool.
I'll take it.
A couple more things here.
Zombie Land 2, official.
Yeah.
Director Ruben Fischer is returning, along with Emma Stone, Woody Harrison, Jesse Eisenberg, and Abigail Breslin.
And it's got a October 2019 release, which will be the 10-year anniversary of the first movie.
So probably no Bill Murray in this one.
Maybe they'll kill off another famous comedian actor.
could be there's there's not another bill murray
and our last
news item here
Neil Blomkamp is directing the Robocop
I guess
I don't reboot sequel
I guess
why wait
why
yeah this one's gonna be a direct sequel
to the first one it will be
redid R
and everything after
the first Robocop
is not canon no more.
Like 80s Robocut?
Yes. Here we go again.
Just leave it alone or
just make a part
a second part to that
last one they did.
It's not like any of the sequels were any good anyway.
I don't know.
Second one was all right, but the third one
when he was flying, I didn't like that at all.
You didn't like
the robot samurai guy?
No. And the TV show was worse.
There was a TV show?
Wow.
I think there was a few.
Jesus.
All right.
Well, I think I'm okay if they shrink the Robocop universe just a little bit.
Yeah, and I like Neil Blomkamp.
I like his movies.
So I really wanted him to do that alien movie he was pitching.
Right.
Bucking and Ripley.
And that is the news.
Well, speaking of Alien, once Walton the gang gets a hold of all the Fox stuff, do you think they will continue it?
I mean, I know it's a big thing that'll make plenty of money.
Sure.
So will they go over Ridley's head and just make another one?
Alien in the hood, man.
Oh, I don't do that.
No, you guys, everybody gives shit to Disney about,
whenever they take over something.
But remember, they're responsible for all this Marvel shit
who puts out a good movie
probably two to three times a year
that's way better than most of the shit that's out there.
So if they get a hold of the alien franchise,
man, I am down.
Because it's not like the last few movies have been worth a shit at all.
Well, with the exception of the couple of Ridley Scott ones
that came out, they were pretty good.
Yeah, I mean, I don't know.
I don't even know if that's even on their radar.
I think it's just a bunch of the shit that they're getting along with everything else.
I'm just trying to get my Wolverine back.
Yeah, I don't know, but they need to hurry and get Predator back, because that last trailer, I don't know.
I was more excited about the last trailer than I was that first one.
It was awful.
With that big giant predator?
I was like, oh.
I don't know.
Why is, why was that in the trailer?
You can't figure out.
I don't know.
Well, you saw the Ant Man trailer.
pretty much gave away the whole goddamn movie.
Even the
even the post-credits scene.
Yeah.
Speaking of Ant,
Spoiler alert, maybe.
I just got home from staying out again.
Everything in the trailer was in the movie.
That was all the exciting stuff.
I know, man. I know.
Even, but some of the stuff in the trailer wasn't even in the movie.
In the movie?
There was literally a point where I stopped in the movie and I went,
have I seen this before?
Yep.
Overkill there.
all right on that note you guys ready to take a trip
yep
they got trailer parks in the hood right
okay
I'm not really
where are we going there's
down to the trailer park
right next to the hood
gonna talk about don't leave home
starring mark Lawrence
Helena Baron and Carrie Cox
no Mark Lawrence
I did the same thing
damn
directed by
Michael Tully.
First off, I want to say,
this reminded me
of that movie we reviewed
a little while ago,
the legacy.
Okay.
Yeah, maybe a little.
What did you guys think?
Ireland instead of the UK, right?
Yeah.
What was going on in this trailer?
I mean,
that's what I was trying to do now.
That legacy movie.
Yeah, okay, I get it.
It, like,
like I said,
it reminded me of the legacy,
like they're inviting these people
to, I don't know,
sacrifice them,
or maybe bring them on
to a part of something.
I don't know.
It just really gave me that feel.
Right.
I couldn't tell what the fuck was going on.
Yeah.
Weird shit.
I'll see it,
but nothing exciting for me here, guys.
Yeah,
I'm not expecting much.
And I couldn't find a release date.
Okay.
It said it's the,
it's like get out,
but,
Ireland.
Okay.
And with all white people.
That's awesome.
Slaving white people.
Moving on to our next trailer, Mara, starring Olga Curie Linko and Javier Botet.
This one looks good.
Looks pretty good, yeah.
Yeah.
I really like Javier Boutet.
He plays a lot in a lot of horror movies, a lot of creatures and demons and all kinds of stuff.
Wasn't he in Mama or am I thinking of somebody else?
Oh, he was in that.
Okay, yeah.
I think he was an Alien Covenant.
One of the Conjuring movies.
Oh, was he the Cricket Man, maybe?
I think so.
He's definitely got the build for it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
We're all interested in this one.
When does this one come out?
September 7th.
All right, cool.
Yeah, it looks interesting.
I'll take it.
This one was requested by my daughter because she was like,
we got to do another kids' Halloween show.
And this one is...
Goosebumps 2, haunted Halloween.
Hey, better than Boo 3.
We don't know that.
I haven't seen sure.
I don't know that.
Like 100% sure.
Okay.
I will co-sign that.
I know it's already better.
This is starring Madison Eastman, Jeremy Ray Taylor, and Wendy McLendon, Covey.
No, Jack Black in this one, huh?
Did Jack Black die in the first one?
No.
I think he's just too.
I don't think anybody died in the first one.
Yeah.
I know he has a other movie coming out that my daughter thought was goosebumps.
the one with the
what is it called? The house with the clock in its walls.
Yeah.
The clock on the wall or whatever.
Yeah.
The Eli, directed by Eli Roth.
Right. Oh, boy.
Oh, great.
Well, hey, you know what?
Jack Black's still getting work, and I'm happy about that.
Yeah.
I was okay with the first one.
Me and my daughter seen in the theater, and it's fine for what it is.
Yeah.
I was confused for a minute there.
I thought we were watching the trailer for It Part 2, in the house and everything, and the same kid.
But, no, it looks fun.
I like the visuals.
I know there's a lot of, there's a lot of CG, which is going to piss some people off.
But, I mean, how else do you do that many different types of monsters, you know?
Yeah.
I don't know if you can hold this to the same standard as, as, I mean, it'll be fun.
It's a kid's movie, though.
Mm-hmm.
You know, it'll probably be pretty decent.
I think that we're at some point going to see it probably for the Halloween show,
because I'm sure that's when it's coming out.
Right.
And we'll go, oh, that was better than I expected it was.
I think so.
I agree.
That's what I said about the first one.
Yeah.
October 12.
I only want to see this because it's got Beverly from the Goldbergs in it.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah, yeah, she is in it.
and a little
chubby guy from it.
Right.
Yeah.
October 12.
I see the first one was that dummy,
sloppy.
Was he in the first one?
Yeah, yeah.
He's basically the main one of the first one.
Okay.
I guess I got to watch the first one then
before I see this.
My older son, Mark,
he was a goosebumps fan.
I don't know.
Probably not.
And our last trailer is going to be
the Stephen King, JJ Abrams, Hulu series, Castle Rock.
This stars Melanie Linsky, Scott Glenn,
Andre Holland, Jane Levy, Terry O'Quinn, Bill Scarsgaard,
and Sissy SpaceX.
Well, a lot of big names, that's for sure.
I guess that's the one I didn't watch.
I wasn't the first.
I'm not sure.
The jury's still out for me on this.
How bad can it be?
True.
I think this is going to be great.
I think it's just going to be a show where you're just constantly finding or getting all these Stephen King Easter eggs.
Because it's set in the universe because there's a, I think, I don't know if it was a newspaper clipping or something.
They're talking about a killer.
dog and of course you know that's got to be coo yeah oh he saw him in the preview i was like oh look it's
rottie yeah and then you got uh shaw shank prison which uh that's where bill scarves guard's character is
and of course you know he played pennywise and he's um what channels is oh this is going to be hulu
all right i mean i didn't i didn't watch the trailer but um after what they did for um what was that one
that with uh the time travel one
112264.
Yeah, I mean, I thought they did a good job of that, so I'm on board.
And I love Melanie Linsky and Jane Levy, so I'll definitely check out stuff therein.
From what I understand, the first three episodes will be on Hulu, July 25th, and then it'll be an episode a week after that.
Ah, come on, Hulu, what the fuck?
Get with the Netflix program.
Yeah, that would be better, wouldn't it?
Yeah.
and that is our last trailer
all right
uh phil got any feedback
uh the house of the dead
uh Lisa Cole says
spoiler alert in case you're waiting for reviews
this movie was just meh
I
I saw Island of the Dead
a sci-fi original starring
Joey Lawrence
and oh wait wait what was it
oh whoa whoa whoa
and some female
W.W.E. wrestler
married to the Miss.
What?
All right.
What fuck is their name?
Is it Marcy or?
Maurice.
Maurice, yeah.
She's weak.
I think she's hot.
And it was the same
storyline, but way
better execution.
Oh, a sci-fire original was better execution.
Yeah.
With Joey Leroy,
I wonder what the budget was on that one, because I'm going to talk about that later.
Tanya Torrance says, I concur.
I haven't seen that yet, but she hasn't even seen it yet.
She's like, yeah, I concur.
I bet it doesn't have that what seems like a 10-minute fight scenes with the bloodthirsty zombies.
We'll get there.
Oh, yeah, we'll get there.
I think it was like actually a 13-minute fight scene.
Yeah, because it felt way longer than 10 minutes.
Do you include the flashback?
Oh.
It was glorious.
It was glorious.
From our friend filmmaker Christopher G. Moore, we just found out our film
film, Gut Punched, has been nominated for Best FX short at upcoming Austin Revolution Film Festival.
Cool.
All right.
Congratulations.
Yeah, we're extremely excited that Sean Crumholtz, amazing works on the practical,
on the practical effects is getting the spotlight it deserves.
Thanks for the fest and the awesome nomination.
Well, thanks for posting on our page, brother. Keep going.
Christopher told us we're also up for Best Horror Short and Best Comedy Short at the same best.
Our FX guy did an amazing job. Wow, those guys on top of it.
Christopher Moore.
Where to go, dude.
Um, regarding the upcoming Netflix show, Gould, uh, Stephen Loblad says,
Can't Do Subtitles.
Oh, no, that's going to be a subtitle show?
Uh, I guess so.
I just, I thought, too.
Yeah.
I don't know.
It looked, it, it looked interesting enough that I might be able to try to power through.
Indian movies do some crazy shit.
Oh, no.
It might be fun.
A Bollywood zombie dance, huh?
There you go.
I'll take it.
He like, he like punches him and he flies 30 stories in the opposite direction.
Oh, no.
All right.
Uh, Shereida Napper, uh, posted a list of the 24 irrational fears you have if you were born before 1995.
Wow.
On the group page.
Uh, she says, I'm still afraid of everything on this list, 1995.
So, yeah, that is, yeah, that is my sister-in-law and just like I told her in the Facebook group.
Stop it.
Well, I got a couple of highlights of it.
Number one is the fear of having your house rated by the FBI downloading a couple of items off of lime wire.
Ah, okay.
Limber wire.
Napster, the original.
What about scary stories to tell in the dark?
Yeah.
Yeah, come on.
Those were good.
I was reading those when I was a kid.
It's no goosebumps, but, you know.
I'm still waiting on that movie.
Guillermo Del Toro supposed to be doing it.
Oh, I hope he does, man.
Black Dog.
Remember that one?
Yeah, I always remember the one with the chick that had the spider eggs or whatever
in her cheat.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, that sounds terrible.
And then there's something about a butcher somewhere in there.
Yeah.
Anyway, it's a kid's horror story.
but I mean just looking at the cover of it if you go Google stare stories to tell in the dark
all of their artwork is phenomenal and it's it's super creepy um and let's see we got a regarding
billy d Williams returning for episode nine uh Renee Glenn says yeah
there you go see that's not negative Brian oh there was another one on there we must not
I've never read that one yet.
Ah, we skipped those guys.
But, yeah, man, I'm excited about it.
I think I'm excited about episode nine just in general.
I think they're going to bring that Snoke story full circle.
And all you haters from the Last Jedi are going to maybe have to eat your words.
We'll see how it goes.
Yeah, I think Last Jedi.
on Netflix. I think Patrick has it on
a heavy rotation on his watch list.
I'm sure. I bet he does. He probably
just watches it and it's free time.
Right. So he can find new reasons
to be upset. But in reality,
he loves it. It's like a baby kitten in his heart.
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I guess then it's time for our featured attractions,
and this week we asked that all-important question.
Is it really that bad?
As we review three films that have less than stellar reputations.
First movie, Leprocon in the Hood.
Director Rob Spira,
also known for the supernatural TV show
and something called
Midnight Temptations 2
might have been better than this one.
That sounds sexy.
Sounds like Cinemax.
Yeah.
Writers Doug Hall and John Huffman.
This is the fifth movie in the Leprocon series,
although the number five doesn't appear anywhere in it.
And this had the closest release date to St. Patrick's Day,
released on March 28, 2000.
Straight to DVD.
Nez, do you remember this one?
I come from the land of the Irish Spring.
Dublin's the place where I learned my thing.
From the Emerald Isle to a place in the hood,
I'm a man of green comes to do no good.
Left in the hood comes to do no good.
What?
Oh my God.
You nailed it.
All right, guys, hey, listen, we put our songs in after we record,
so that was all just from memory.
That was freestyle, baby.
Oh, man.
This was just as bad the first time I seen it back in 2000.
But it's got ice.
The OG original gangster.
Yeah.
The hustler.
Magdadi.
What are you doing in this?
The guy pulls,
I know this fucking baseball bat out of his afro.
How bad can it be?
He was asked about this.
I can't remember.
one something I was listening to him and he just went oh man and that was it he didn't
want to go into it and no no well he's too cool it's like when you asked jZ about you know
some kind of interview or something I remember going into like a video store um for you young
listeners there was this place where you can rent movies on videotapes and this was one of them
And all I saw was iced tea, and I'm like, oh, my God, what is this?
It was a tough watch.
I even stomached a leprechaum back to the hood right after.
I did the double feature.
That one doesn't have iced tea, I assume.
No.
Okay.
What were these people thinking in this movie?
I mean, yeah, the ones before were all pretty dumb.
me, I guess you got nowhere else to go
right after space, so you go to the hood
and smoke weed.
What was that?
A friend with weed is a friend indeed
or whatever.
He is a friend indeed.
Oh my God.
But the biggest one, other than Ice Tea,
he played Magdaddy.
The actor Lobo, Sebastian,
you might have known him.
He was Benny Chaconne from 1-8-6.
and he was one of the ice cubes outlaws and what was that one, Ghost of Mars.
Okay.
He played the character Fantine Rivera, the little transgender chick when they were, guys were trying to hide out.
Wow.
I'll give it to him.
I'll give it to him, man.
I mean, other than he probably just needed the check, but, man, man, what was going on?
This movie, I mean, Warwick Davis, you've got to love him.
He is a leprechaun.
But, oh, my God, this movie was tough.
I mean, I'm all the one for hip-hop, and it was on the West Coast in California.
But what were they trying to do here?
I mean, who wrote this to go, man, this is going to be awesome?
Imagine there were a lot of drugs involved.
Mostly we do.
It was right on the story, Philip.
Yeah.
It was just all weed in this.
I mean, it made me laugh.
That one scene when iced tea is in the bathroom,
and he starts lighten up, and the leprechaun comes in,
and just such a strange aroma, and then starts puffing,
and I was like, oh, my God.
What about the, what about the, what do you have,
zombie fly girls?
Oh, that's great.
But were they really zombies?
I mean, they did love like traditional zombies.
They just had green eyes, but they were still hot.
Yeah.
I mean, the story of this one is, you know, he's just, he's always trying to protect his gold.
I don't remember, I don't remember the last one.
The one when he was in space.
Did you watch that one, Brian?
Could you usually watch all of them?
Yeah.
How did they stop him at the end of that one?
I don't know.
I've seen that one time.
All I remember, there was, wasn't there, wasn't he giant in that one?
was he giant did they put the necklace on
giant
yeah because this one
I picked this one because I also
seen it only one time before
and I don't
he kind of seemed like he didn't give a fuck about his gold
he just cared about his flute
yeah that magic flute
I mean how did
how did they
never mind
how did it become a statue because when
the ICT finds them which oh my god
those those platforms and the bell bottoms
in the huge afro the beginning
that was my favorite scene was the beginning
that was another thing
if that was supposed to be in the 70s
yeah
I don't know this this timeline
what's going on
because
the leprecon was like a statue
and then when they took that necklace off is when he
came around
he came to life so
I don't know
and another thing that kind of bugged me was the flute
they couldn't get
something that looked cool
like they probably just went to the dollar store
and just all right this will work
and spray painted it gold
it didn't even look gold
I got about 15 skin flute jokes
but
they just get old after one
and there was no real
like melody playing
when anybody blew into it
oh no it was like a fucking dog whistle
almost
no but yeah
so he takes he takes a flute
in the 70s and and defeats leprechaun and puts him back into stone or whatever and keeps him in his crib.
And I say crib because it's in the hood.
And then, you know, 30 years later, after he's the big time record executive because of the flute apparently.
But if that was in the 70s, then how did part one, two, and three, and four happen?
Well, I don't know.
And see those.
And it's the same one for the con.
Oh, good point.
So what's the time?
Yeah, really good point.
The first one came out 93.
The first one came out 93.
Yeah.
And then 94, 95, and then 96.
You're like right after another.
Maybe he lost.
And then this one then come out to...
Or maybe he came out 2000.
Maybe he snuck out and snuck back in or I don't know.
That's weird.
I guess you just have to not worry about it.
What was with, I know you were talking, you were talking about the transgender guy, but what was with a bizarre, awkward, undercurrent of cross-dressing throughout this entire movie?
Yeah.
That's funny.
Wait, but we have to find a way to get close to him.
I know.
We'll dress his hookers.
Oh, no.
Oh, boy.
So it's one of the buddies that I guess he was the DJ.
Oh man, he looked like a ugly chick.
Wow.
Yeah, butch.
Was that the light skin dude that was kind of chunky?
Yeah, he's a comedian.
Red Grant.
He's fucking funny.
Oh, my God.
He's legit funny.
The other two guys are okay.
How did you guys?
The other thing that made me laughing this is, I mean, they were all struggling rappers.
That was like the main story.
Postmaster.
Yeah.
How did you feel about the positive?
of postmaster P
Postmaster P
There ain't no positive
I mean that gets sued
I know there is but
It was postmaster P
Postmaster P and stray bullet
Wow
That doesn't a train bullet
The best rap they did is when they were in the church
And how did it go?
Oh
Jesus loves me
This I know
And then the other guy was like
And if you don't, I'll find a ho or something.
Yeah, that was the best line.
Terrible, man.
Oh, my God.
It was funny, though, when they were just trying to be all positive, those raps were weak.
But then after they blew the whistle or the flute, then they got like super hard.
Then they sounded.
So what do you guys think about that?
You got to get hard after you blow the skin flute.
Sorry.
What do you guys think about?
You ever heard the saying like in Europe, the Irish are considered like the black people of Europe, basically, like the way that blacks are treated here in America.
Everybody kind of acts that way toward the Irish.
You guys ever heard about that?
Yeah.
Is that like justification for this movie not being super racist?
Exactly.
Yeah, we were talking the whole time we watched this movie, Philip and I were like, we looked at each other like, is this racist?
or isn't this racist?
It's kind of hard to tell.
Let's play a game.
Is it racist?
I don't know.
It's definitely not a very great movie.
That's for damn sure.
I don't know what you guys think.
Are you all ready for scores or do you want to go into any more?
I mean, I guess you can talk for hours, huh?
Quick question.
Are you guys down with this reboot of the leprechaun coming out on sci-fi next year?
No.
Well, I don't think so.
If it belongs anywhere, that's where it belongs.
No Warwick Davis.
Oh, no.
How about Jennifer Aniston?
I don't know.
I don't know what she's doing lately, so.
I don't know.
She might could come back.
She was, uh, that original,
for a sock fire leprecha leprecha.
Yeah, the original lepricon made her, made her career, right?
I guess, but unless they're holding some sort of golden flute over her head.
Right.
Golden skin flute.
I meant you'd like to, Philip.
Well, yes.
Oh, boy.
She seems a little stiff.
Brian, did you see the last one, the origins?
No, I kind of refused to.
It just, I don't know.
It looked bad.
If you refuse to see a movie, then that does not bode well.
Well, it was better than
this one.
I had seen it.
Really?
Was it more
entertaining?
Yeah, it was more serious.
There was no
weed smoking,
rhyming and stealing leprechaun.
It was more of just like
a monster. I mean, it wasn't even really a
leprechaun. I mean, there was golden
and it did take place in Ireland.
But
the, the
This one was for you wrestling fans.
You know, Brian, Hornswago.
He was the...
Horstwago.
Ah.
It was more of a monster.
He wasn't...
He didn't have the hat and...
I'm okay with that idea.
None of that.
It was more of like just a monster movie.
Right.
I didn't think they needed to call it Leprikan,
but, I mean, it was all right.
I mean, they were trying to be really serious with it,
with WWE making all these movies.
and using the wrestlers whenever they can, it's all right.
I mean, I know someone's probably yelling at me saying, oh, that movie's horrible.
I mean, for what it was, it's got nothing to do with the regular Lepricon series,
but if you do buy that box set, this movie comes with it,
and it's got nothing to do with any of those movies.
I mean, if you do want to stomach it, if it's on late at night,
for anyone that hasn't seen it and you feel curious about it, it's all right.
I mean, it was cool.
It was worth a watch.
I mean, I seen it.
I didn't pay for it, but I saw it.
Okay.
Yeah.
Check it out if you want.
I'd be open to another Lepricon horror movie that's not in this franchise.
Then this is the one to watch.
Yeah.
I'll check it out.
Probably not, but I'll say it will.
All right.
So what do you think on scores?
Um.
It was funny.
I can't go higher than a two.
And that's pushing it.
That's pushing it.
Is it?
That was a kick.
Wow.
Right in the danglies beneath the skinned foot.
Right.
Oh, boy, two.
Okay.
All right.
The act was horrible.
Yeah, it was.
It was.
I guess this was more of a,
general discussion. We didn't really go in order.
I'm going to give it, I'm going to give it a, I'm going to give it a three.
I think it was at least entertaining.
Right.
And, I mean, it was terrible.
Don't get me wrong.
But it was entertaining and I wasn't mad at watching it.
To be fair, Lance was hanging out over here when we watched it, so we were making fun of it the entire time.
And that was kind of great.
If I had to like sit alone quietly in a dark room by myself and watch this piece of shit,
I might have had a different opinion of it.
It's definitely worth the watch, you know?
Yeah.
It was better than I thought it was going to be.
I was like leprechaun in the hood.
That's what we're watching.
Okay.
Brian?
I was entertained because it was so bad, but I can't.
give it no higher than the two.
I give it one for Warwick, and I got to, I got to give it up to Postmaster P's positivity.
He's stuck with his positivity.
Not bad.
He was like, my name is Post-Mastapy.
Yeah.
All right, so we got two twos and a three, and I'm right in the middle.
I'll give it two and a half because it wasn't a hell of a lot of fun to watch,
especially in the state of mind we were in, right, Phil?
Yeah, that'd hurt.
So, left of the hood.
It's up to no good.
Well, Lance, how come you didn't give it a hire?
He's postmaster P's in Star Trek Enterprise.
Yeah, I know. I know.
He was a regular in Enterprise, but...
We talked about that during the movie.
Yeah, it ain't doing it here.
Which is probably why we weren't affected by the boring parts.
Two and a half is much better than we would have expected to give one of the movies this week.
right?
I'm only giving it a two for Warwick, Dave.
One for Warwick and one for E.
Another quick question.
What was Coolio's part in this?
He was just there.
Churchgoer.
He just walked in and then, hey, that's Coolio.
And then that was it.
Yeah.
Maybe that was the power of the flute brought him in.
Oh.
Maybe it's because that's how Coolio got famous.
Oh.
Coolio Origins. Look for it in 2019.
Gangstis Paradise. The leprechaun wrote it.
Leppie's Paradise.
Leap in the hood is up to no good.
All right.
Yeah, that was the worst way to end the movie I've ever seen in my life.
That was kind of funny, though, man.
Let's talk about the ending just for a second.
When the final battle with the leprechaun and someone who I don't know who was through
the necklace up and then it was
coming down like oh it's going to go around
his neck again and he's going to turn the stone
then next thing you know he's on the stage
rhyming is dealing with the fly girls or whatever
I mean it's not like it was
too far fetched from the whole rest of the movie
I don't know what happened but I just went with it
I just was glad we got through that whole ending
because let's not forget before then he's trying to get
postmaster P to blow him
Oh, yeah.
I was going to mention that.
There's another skin flute joke in there.
I thought he was in there banging Fontaine.
Oh, yeah.
There were multiple skin flutes in that situation.
Pretty rough.
That's what you do in the hood.
Hey, but listen, the zombie fly girls who were dancing around.
in the video were super sexy
and tiny little gold
dresses, so
all right.
I was like, wait.
What? Oh, look at that.
Did Postmaster P
turned into a zombie or whatever?
I don't know. I think so.
Watch for the sequel, I guess.
Well, it's...
I did watch the sequel. No one was in it.
If he was dressing as a woman
anyway, now he's a new
zombie fly girl.
Oh, there you go. There you go.
There you go.
Ouch.
I figured it out.
You do get the leprechaun smoking bongs in the next one.
Oh, yeah.
Ah, cool.
If you want to see that, go for it.
Still have the four-leave clovers in it?
Oh, yeah.
Oh, my God.
All right, next one.
So even though we all gave it low scores, we still recommend everybody at least give it one watch, right?
Yeah, if you're a fan of the leprecha.
I think you guys did it right by watching it together because I think that's how you do it.
Yeah.
I think so.
House of the Dead, directed by the infamous Uwe Bowl, also known for Blood Rain and Assault on Wall Street.
Writers Dave Parker and Mark Altman.
Reviews for this movie were so bad that Danish cinemas refused to show it.
This was the last film to use the turntable technique for 360.
degree shots. The risk of
actors being hurt or killed by the fast
moving cameras was too high.
And final
piece of trivia when Tiren
Litsso first meets Juergen
Proknau, character
Will Sanderson says,
Jess who's the U-Boat commander?
Jirgen Prachno played a U-boat
in Das Boot in
1981. So,
anyway, Nez, what did you think, man?
I love this movie. It was so
stupid to awesome.
I was sitting there watching it this morning with my grandson.
He just sat there and stared at it.
But I saw this when it first came out.
I was, I'm not too familiar with the video game.
I've played it a couple times, like the arcade version when you're standing up.
And just, all right, cool, zombies and you're shooting at them.
I mean, after all the Resident Evil games, it was awesome.
And then when I heard this movie was coming out, I was actually at a con somewhere.
I can't remember where.
and they showed the trailer for this.
And I was like, oh, okay, cool.
But there was a lot of haters that were
huge fans of the game. And they were like,
oh, my God, what are they trying to do with this?
The movie came out, I went and seen it.
And it was so bad.
I love it. I mean, there is some bad movies
that I hate. But this one was,
man, it was funny. It was entertaining.
I mean, they tried to be so serious
in this. And it just
wasn't. I mean, I thought the acting
was better than in the last one we did,
the leprechaun.
good.
Really?
Yeah.
I mean,
it did,
all right.
You did get some actors.
Right.
Some no actors.
You got the legendary Clint Howard,
and you got Sutter Cain in this.
And for you Smallville fans,
you got Lois Lane,
Erica Durantz,
showing everything she had.
Well, not everything,
but the top half in the beginning of the film.
And I thought the effects were good.
I mean, just practical effects.
There was no CGI.
blood, which I was doing with. You thought the effects
were good? What fucking movie you watched,
Ness? Jesus Christ.
I liked them. I mean, they were... I was waiting
for this, because you thought Rampage
was so terrible because it didn't follow
the video game, and I was like,
you see? You're ass?
This don't even go near the
video game. It doesn't get near the video
game. It's a straight-up shooter.
Like, it looks like the
video game. The zombies are coming at them, and they're
like, bang, ping,
I didn't like them adding the video game parts to the movie.
Yeah, that got old really late.
47 times or whatever.
Yeah, maybe once, once twice.
I thought it was stupid.
I was like, oh, man, you're killing me with this.
And as far as the 360 cameras, oh, that was, I thought that was horrible.
That was my favorite part of the movie.
I didn't mind that, but what killed me was every time someone,
died and you didn't see them die,
it would just show them spinning around in a circle.
That's like the dead scene from the game, right?
Isn't that what happens when you die in the game?
Yeah, but I don't want to see it in this.
I know.
I think that they stayed maybe a little too true
to the game here.
Yeah, because sometimes you wouldn't even see
how the person would die.
They would just spin around in a circle.
I mean, yeah, like I said, man,
I'm not too hip on the game.
I've only played it a few times.
But for a zombie movie at the time that there was only in the theater for like maybe a weekend.
Maybe.
Because I mean, this came and went quick.
I mean, I liked it for what it was.
I mean, the backstory I thought was stupid.
I mean, they tried to give you this legend of this island and all the way back to, I don't know what they were.
Were they Spaniards?
All those old zombies, whatever they were?
Yeah, I kind of like it.
I go with that.
Sure.
Why not?
If you watch...
Makes as much sense as the rest of the movie.
If you watch the making of it, there were some people saying that, why are some zombies fast and some slow?
Their explanation was, well, the fresher of zombies can still move quick because all the old-looking ones were all by that.
And do the breaststroke.
Right.
Because they were swimming.
They were swimming their asses off.
I sure were.
Faster than some professional Olympian swimmers at the plane.
They were hitting it.
I thought that was horrible.
I mean, at least in Lucio Fulci's zombie, that zombie that was fighting the shark, he was doing some little armstrokes, but not like these guys.
I mean, these guys were like Olympic swimmers.
Right.
Oh, man.
I mean, it was so bad.
I loved it.
I mean, bringing in, I mean, if you throw Clint Howard in a movie, man, you're just going to get gold every time he's on the screen.
I did love his scene on the boat where he's like just picking zombies off.
He was the best one in this movie because I felt like he knew what kind of movie he was in.
Everybody else was, I don't know, like the main guy that was doing the narration.
He was a little bit too serious for me.
and he ruined the fucking,
this movie ruined the movie from the beginning
when they tell you everybody dies.
Well, yeah.
That's not usually how you want to start the movie.
Was the sound mix off for you guys?
I mean, maybe I was watching it on the wrong thing,
but I'm,
no, it's because it's on Amazon.
It would get really, really, really, really loud
and then it'd get really, really, really, really quiet.
But like, even during the guy's narration,
because he has kind of a lower-toned voice,
and he's he's a little bit quiet,
but they had like all the music and other background shit going
while he's trying to talk.
At full blast.
You can't fucking hear him at all, man.
I had to like turn it way the fuck up so that,
you know,
when the zombie shot started with the fucking prodigy
playing in the background,
and it was like blasting me out of my fucking ears.
Some of the music was great, though.
Lance.
Yeah.
What did you think about Captain Kirk?
Captain Kirk.
Yeah, Juergen Prach now, right?
Yeah.
He was the best part of the movie.
Between him and those very dangerous 360-degree turns that filming, that's when I kind of thought,
this movie's okay.
I mean, it's got a few redeeming features.
It's kind of fun to watch.
But, no, I thought he was the best actor in the movie.
I'm not going to give this a very high score, and mainly because of one reason and one reason only.
and Philip, you know what it is, because I told you, if her shirt does not come off by the end of this funny movie,
this thing is going to lose two to three points, easy.
Exactly.
And it didn't.
It was a big tease.
I was wearing.
You wanted to see.
We were talking about the redhead?
No, the brunette.
That was in the whole movie.
Was it a brunette?
Oh, the main, yeah.
Yeah, the main show.
Alicia, was that her name?
Okay, because they set it up with so many boobs.
and they were pretty excellent boobs.
I mean, you have to give it some points, at least for that.
It was like a soft-bored porn.
Yeah, it was like watching Cinemax back in the day, you know?
It was definitely filmed like one.
And that's exactly what it looked like with the way it was filmed.
But then, you know, as it kept going, I was like waiting for more boobs.
I was like, oh, okay, all right, well, here's the drama between the sex scenes.
Let's watch.
And then it didn't stop.
You'd get some dumb-ass fight scene instead.
which I got to say they were stupid and kind of boring,
but it did stay true to the video game.
And for me, they were kind of entertaining.
I did like the 360 shots.
I thought that was kind of cool.
Still a fucking terrible movie, though.
Like, this guy does not give a fuck.
Uve bowl.
Right.
I don't know what else to say about him.
but yeah it was it was it was definitely really really really terrible it may be one of the worst movies that I've ever watched but it was entertaining the entire time that's a good way so it might fall under that well maybe not the entire time during the story it was kind of boring but that's when if you have people over and you're talking it's not that big a deal the fight scenes though are cool I like it it may be so bad it's good
He's been referred to as the world's worst director by numerous sources.
Yeah, I believe that.
That sounds about right.
Blood rain and assault on Wall Street.
Yeah, there you go.
What I loved about during all the fight scenes or these type of crazy, crappy movies,
is when you're dealing with the armory, with machine guns and all that,
these were just college kids ready to go to this island to party down
then they all turn into uh like they did in that last uh purge movie they turned into
uh special force agents and they all know how to shoot guns and sword fight and karate fight
see this is why i like this is why i like this is the part i like because that seemed like it
would be in a video game where everybody just has these special like the Asian chick
in the American flag suit or whatever.
They look like video game characters.
And the spinning around looks like something that you would do with a video game character
while you're trying to choose your character and previewing which one you want to choose.
I think what I didn't like about the 360 camera is they used it too much.
Oh, yeah.
Maybe. Maybe so.
If it was like once or twice, it would have been cool.
Like just one, like when I can't remember which one was through the axe or the, I thought the best one.
the use of the camera is one of them jumped up and I don't know if they shot a gun or something.
I thought that looked cool.
But this every time they, it was pretty much every character that had screen time got the 360.
Yeah.
I mean, it just kind of got played out really quick.
That was the only reason I didn't.
Oh, yeah.
It's definitely stupid.
The whole movie is stupid.
This is not a movie for people who really like cinema.
this is yeah because there's there's a movie for people who like watching people play video games there's stuff going on i have no idea
like okay after the the 37 minute zombie fight scene that's in the middle of the movie
why does the main guy just all of a sudden freeze and then have some kind of flashback of
everything playing in reverse or whatever is going on what was up with that as soon as that started i looked at it
my eyes got real big and i looked at lance and i said
what the fuck is happening right now?
I didn't get that.
Like he has a moment where everything is just playing in his head,
and then he just stands there and watches someone get killed and does nothing,
and then just, I don't know.
And that's where the acting was so fucking horrible in this movie.
There's times when there was no acting at all.
Like when the blonde chick turned into a zombie and they had a killer,
like nobody gave a shit.
Or that dude that had shit all over him.
from the outhouse.
Yeah.
Nobody
like even noticed
he just had shit
all over them.
They did.
They made a couple
of dumb-ass jokes
about it.
I can't remember
what they were,
but they were stupid.
And how do you care?
You probably ignored them
because the rest of the shit
was so boring
until they started fighting
and shooting people again.
Was this in 3D?
I don't remember
if it was or not.
Let me check.
I hope so.
Because I want to tell you.
you what the budget of this movie is because it sounds like a maybe Blair Witch style budget.
A little bit.
Because it looks like a bunch of haunted house actors running through the woods and jumping on people.
Right?
Extras from the local haunted house.
I mean, how much would you say that you could do a movie like this for?
Just random.
Guess it.
I don't know.
Four million?
See, four million seems like a lot.
Because Blair Witch was like $60,000.
This was a $7 million budget.
According to IMB, on Google, it says $12 million.
According to Wikipedia, it's 12.
12 million.
Yeah, I saw a couple of conflicting ones, but the most consistent one was 12 million.
But even if it was only 7 million.
Like, this makes that Day of the Dead Bloodlines movie look
unfathably amazing.
Oh, wow.
You know what I mean?
To see in that one.
It was,
I don't know what he spent the money on.
Because it wasn't production.
They spent it on that camera.
Yeah, that spins around.
Oh.
Can tell people.
That's where all the money did.
And the topless shots.
I was hoping for really more of those.
Had they thrown a few more of those in,
my rating would be way higher.
Same here.
Same here.
there was money I mean
there was a lot at the very beginning
but then I wanted the main chick though
at the end when she's running out of the
building and her
they look like they're about to flop out of her tank tower
they could have gotten away with it
and then she gets stabbed right between them
right like how was she even still
alive a but
you know whatever forget about
fucking logic in this movie
she's got
yeah she's got her
apparently forget about physics too because her thing
that is held together by a string in the front
which she's been wearing the whole time and teasing you
with. It's like you're just
wait, oh, we just wiggle a little bit more.
And then like three or four of the strings on
the top get cut when she gets stabbed
right between the boots. Oh, I thought, oh, man.
And they never pop out.
I don't want to talk about this anymore.
You knew how much that pissed me off
when we were watching the movie.
Bullshit, man.
You're almost there.
Fuck you, Louie Bow. Fuck you.
You are the worst.
Ness,
you saw the sequel,
right?
Yeah.
See?
How was the sequel?
To this?
I did another one?
You've got to be kidding me.
Was she in it?
It wasn't.
I didn't,
I didn't like it as much as this first one.
Um, but that one was,
uh,
it was,
it was at a college.
And, um,
they brought in a,
uh,
a special army force,
uh,
led by,
I think it was led by,
by Sticky Fingers from Onyx.
And, oh, God.
Was it Ube Bowling?
Ouch. No, it was done by Michael Hurst.
You cannot hire that guy again.
Wow.
You can't tell me he spent $12 million on a fucking camera, dude.
Yes.
Sticky fingers.
Sticky fingers played Sergeant Dalton.
Sergeant Dalton.
Sergeant Dalton. Okay.
Well, I like Sticky.
I mean, he's good and everything.
he's done, but he was a little
overboard. And that's... Oh, wow. This movie
had Sid Hagenet. Oh,
yeah. He's the one that started it all.
I mean, it's... House of the Dead 2 or the one we watched?
No, House of the Dead 2.
Okay. He was trying
to just bring people
back to life. He was
the professor at this college, and
he brings this one
girl back to life, and then all
hell breaks loose. Did he start the
zombies? Yeah, he's the one.
I might have to watch this one.
Really?
Dr. Sikai to you, ladies and gentlemen.
It's entertaining.
I mean, it's not as laughable as the first one.
I mean, because they really went for it.
And they're the one we all just watched.
But it's worth it.
I mean, yeah, check it out.
I mean, it's nothing great.
I know some people do like the second one more than the first one.
I love this so much just because it was so bad.
Yeah.
That was the reason.
I liked it.
It is.
It's really bad, but it's entertaining.
Well, on that...
When I saw in the theater, there was only me and like two other guys in there.
I'm surprised it was in the theater, man.
I thought this was a direct-to-video, really.
They made money off of this movie.
Somebody did.
Not a lot.
They spent $12 million to make it.
It was like a $13 million sales.
you all ready for scores
yeah
all right
we don't want to get too far over
uh naz
i'll give it a six
whoa
holy shit
philip are you up there
no man
I'm gonna
but it makes more sense why you hate Rampage
I'm going to give this one
a
I'll give it a three, which is way too high for this, but it's so bad that it's funny.
It is one of those to me that I think is so bad that it's entertaining.
I mean, you've got to give at least a couple of points for boobs.
I mean, because they were pretty high-quality boobs.
Bush as well.
Just not the ones we wanted.
Was there?
I didn't.
Yeah.
Oh, no, no, no.
I'm sorry.
I'm thinking, because I watched the second one right after.
Oh, House of the Dead 2.
Another reason for you to watch it, Brian.
Next on my docket.
So, Brian, you're giving this one a high score, right?
I'm going to give it a five.
Wow.
Just because at times it knew what it was.
You think it did.
Yes, like I got to bring back my man, Clint Howard.
He knew what the fuck.
He knew what movie.
I think it was crazy.
He knew what kind of movie he was in.
in, but then you got the main cast,
and I think they tried
to play it so sick. Like the black
chick and her
being
in love with the one guy,
I didn't give a fuck about none of that
and the way it was played off.
Was she in love with somebody? I don't even.
Yeah, the guy that got
his face burned. Oh, the elephant man. Yeah. Yeah, he was like,
don't look at me no more.
Oh, for that, and
and Clint Howard, I did enjoy the guy that played
Captain Kirk, because he was
more of a badass, and we didn't even bring up
the cop who got her legs,
her bottom hat ripped off.
Yeah, I didn't even know where she came from.
Jamie Lloyd's cousin from a
pop-up from.
What was that?
That was Jamie Lloyd's
I think it was her cousin from Halloween
4 and 5.
You would know that.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, I think you're right.
That's obscure.
Yeah, I didn't care about her character and that horrible, that's where they save money on, that whole boat scene where they're clearly not on the boat talking.
It's just voiceover.
Oh, yeah.
But, yeah, five, because I think I enjoyed this more than leprechaun.
So it was a little bit more fun for me.
Everything was cheesy.
I think for the most part, they knew what they were doing.
I think I did, too.
It's worth it to watch one of the, it's worth it to watch one of the ones.
the worst movies ever made.
Yeah.
It's got a
3% of Rotten Tomatoes.
3%?
It's like the room.
Oh, is it that bad?
It's pretty bad.
Yeah, I can't
go higher than one and a half.
I mean, it was...
Don't get me wrong. I loved watching it.
I mean, we had a...
You were...
You were just mad because you didn't see the chick's
breasts.
Well, that got some deductions.
You nailed it.
Otherwise, I would have given
of the nine.
All right,
y'all ready for the next one?
Yeah.
It was?
Yeah,
yeah, it says
The House of the Sleepwalkers
is the same one used
on the television series
The Waltons.
Oh,
I wasn't even paying attention then.
All right,
then get this one.
The Robertson's neighborhood
in the movie is the same
neighborhood as the one
in the comedy film
The Burbs with Tom Hanks.
It looked like it.
All right,
and now let's see
how many of these cameos
you guys caught.
Oh, Jesus.
Mark Hamill was one of the policemen who enters the house at the beginning.
Clive Barker was a forensic technician.
Stephen King, the graveyard caretaker.
John Landis, lab technician.
Wow.
Joe Dante, lab assistant, and Toby Hooper forensic technicians.
So it's got some street cred.
What about Coelio?
I don't, I didn't show him in here.
What did you think about Sleepwalkers now?
I saw in the theater when he came out.
Yeah, I did too.
That was the only time I had seen it.
I mean, was this a book or was it just made for the screen?
That's what I was thinking.
I don't remember it being a book or a story.
I think it's an unpublished screenplay.
Yeah, I think he wrote it to be a movie.
Okay.
Okay.
It was okay.
Okay. I mean, I remember leaving the theater, like, not, like, not overwhelmed.
I mean, I only seen it because you throw Stephen King's name above it.
And I'm like, all right, cool.
And he's done a lot of good stuff.
But I just, I don't know, I wasn't feeling this one.
I mean, the main guy, Charles Brady or whatever, him and his mom, what was going on with that?
What the fuck was going on with that?
Holy shit.
Dude, it was crazy.
You got a son and mom banging and you got teachers that want to suck you off.
That was that was happening, man.
Yeah, because he told him basically his money meant nothing to him.
And there's other ways.
And I was like, whoa, I don't remember that.
Wow.
He was like, I'm not going to tell no one, but you better get on your knees.
And I think to the skin fluke.
He just went fucking bonkers.
Oh man, Ron Perlman.
You guys noticed Ron Perlman in here?
Oh, yeah.
That was a giant head.
Yeah, right?
Dude, the head's bigger.
Everybody else on the screen.
Out of the cameos, the only one I had to go back and look for was Clive Barker because he was.
Yeah.
I noticed him right away.
All right.
That's the only one I missed.
Everyone else.
Everyone else.
I knew who they were.
But when they said Clyde Bark, I had to rewind it and go back.
Right.
And I was like, ah.
I mean, once you see him, you know him.
But he was like super young because he's all beat up now.
I did like the mom.
Alice Shrige.
Yeah.
She played Mary.
Oh, yeah.
She was a pretty chick.
I liked her.
She was weird.
She kind of had that.
kind of almost like a
Carrie mom vibe weirdness
not as weird as Carrie's mom
but she was like weird
you knew something was going on
but I remember watching this the very first time
when they started dancing I was like
I don't know if I'd ever dance with my mom
but they were just a little too close
and then they start kissing
then he picks her up and takes her upstairs
and I'm like what is going on in this movie
it was like oh that's sweet
and kind of weird
Whoa, what are we doing?
Yeah, I mean, and what were they?
Were they...
Okay.
I looked up on Wikipedia.
It makes no sense.
The first description is they're shape-shifting energy vampires.
Right.
And then later it says when they're not, when they're in their real form, they're wear cats.
Wear cats.
That's the real form?
Yeah, when they turn into the giant rubber monster-looking thing.
Yeah.
They're wear cats.
Oh, that's a wear cat scratch is deadly to him.
I was confused.
Yeah, I was a little confused about that, too.
It's a weird creature.
Were all the cats trying to kill them, or were they just hanging out?
I think they was trying to kill them.
Yeah, they don't like them.
I know they were trying to kill them all, because in the beginning of the film,
which I thought was the most brutal scene in the whole movie,
you got all those cats
mangled and hanging
from their necks in front of the house
I was like, whoa.
Yeah, no kidding, right?
You're a dad lover, maybe this is not the movie for you.
Yeah, they tried to
explain it in the beginning
with the title screen, but then, you know,
you don't get long to read it before it gets
clawed up and burnt up.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah. Super quick.
Yeah, the first jump scare.
I mean, Jesus Christ, it was
we're 60 seconds in and I'm trying to concentrate and read and you're going to jump scare me
I thought the the main girl I thought she played that innocent role really really well
she was really innocent and sweet to me oh my god this was the most
maybe one of the most gorgeous women I've ever seen in my life oh yeah you were you were gushing
over her magic she's been in a lot of stuff since then right yeah yeah she has been in twin peaks
or am i thinking of somebody else she was on the show and
the movie.
Okay.
There's something about her.
She drove me nuts.
That whole dumb ass scene in the beginning where she's like dancing around to the music or whatever, trying to like mop the hallway.
Yeah, I like that scene.
I was like, oh, wow, I like her.
And from that she can do no wrong.
She's awesome.
I love that giant walkman.
Yeah.
For you younger listeners that don't know what a walkman is.
I thought that was cool
I mean
I thought she was
She was good in it
I mean I liked her
Doing some research on her
She actually is kind of grew up around
Well in the Reno Sparks area
I said she grew up in Sparks
So I'm in Reno every day
Pretty much where I work
But I liked her character
I mean she played that
Like that little innocent
Not too innocent
Because she wanted to rub bodies
With Charles
And her friends
or just as nasty.
I know.
She's got a little dirty side to her.
I can see it.
Yeah, I think I liked her
the most out of everyone.
Did you guys notice
Ferris Bueller's mom and dad were in this?
There were her parents?
No.
Yeah.
I didn't.
Same parents.
Same exact parents, huh?
How many is that?
He seemed like he just walked off the set
of Ferris Bueller and just went
into this movie because he was like
The same to me.
Same clothes and all.
That's hilarious.
Was this, this was a 92, so was this, was CGI going or was this?
I think it was like real early CGI, right?
Like that scene where he's in the car and he turns and looks.
Oh, yeah.
That was so cheesy, man.
Why was the baby head there?
What kind of crazy shit was that?
Yeah, it was like, what the fuck is happening right now?
I had to pause it during that and see each transformation.
And that's why I was like, what's going on?
It was the babyhead that got me.
That's the one that stopped me in my tracks.
Fuck.
Oh, and then the, go ahead.
The sheriff officer with his cat, the officer, whatever the cat's name was.
The attack.
He even had his little mat.
A riding shot gun.
That guy was kind of awesome.
He's the pawn shop owner from a leprechaun on the hood.
Oh, is he?
Right.
Yeah.
Is serious?
Yeah.
Yeah, that was him.
He was singing some dumb-ass songs.
But he was, I kind of enjoyed him.
They were kind of funny.
He was one of the better characters.
They were in Bidaga Bay in the beginning.
then where did they go?
Was it Indiana?
Oh, shit.
I don't know.
They mentioned Castle Rock.
Really?
They didn't say they didn't say they were in Maine.
Well, they had to have been close because, yeah, that was the scene when the sheriff was calling for backup.
And he said, call Castle Rock and send everybody you got or something like that.
Oh.
I want to say they were Indiana, but I don't know.
I could be wrong because when they switched over to the new house, it said it where they were, what town they were in and what state.
But I don't know.
I assume I just assumed it was Maine, but then it didn't say that.
So I don't know.
I could be wrong.
Yeah.
I think they were just named after.
Quick fact in the new it movie, Henry Bowers car is the same bank in my name.
model as the Trans Am in this one.
No kidding.
Oh.
Yep.
It was a Sleek Barker's Easter egg in the new It movie.
How come he can transform his car?
They never really spoke on their power sets.
I was like, wait, wasn't he just driving a transit?
I mean, I like this one too, but what happened?
What did they call it when they would disappear?
Disappearing? I don't know.
I can remember.
Because when he was laying there, I'll beat up after that cat, which was awesome, when they had the cat fight in the cemetery, after he was at home laying at his house.
And his mom told him, be still while you something, and then they disappeared.
I can't remember what she called it.
Damn.
She said dim.
Yeah, that was it.
And, oh, my God.
That cat scene.
I mean, yeah, it was a real cat when it first jumped on him, but then while he's screaming around.
I was just laughing
I think all
Stuff cat
You're putting in your face
There was some
There was some interesting kills in this movie
You got the sheriff
The deputy guy
He got the pencil in the ear
And then he got thrown down
And the pencil
Went further in his ear
Cop Cabob
Yes
The one that got the
The ear corn
In his back
Right
Can you do that
And then
I don't know
I want to try it
And then we just see,
we've seen how big
Ron Perlman's mouth can get when he's screaming
when he gets his fingers
off. It's weird that they use
like a wide angle lens
on Ron Perlman's face of all
people.
His mouth took up the whole camera.
I don't know. I was just confused
on who they were
and what they were doing. Because if they were
vampires, I mean, they weren't
sucking blood. They were like
taking your anger.
energy or something out of you.
Yeah, I think that's what it was.
Taking the energy or esoteric energy or whatever, you know?
Yeah, shape-shifting energy vampire wear cats.
I don't know.
It reminded me a movie.
It reminded me a cat's eye when a little bit, yeah?
Oh, that's a good movie.
Goblin or whatever was stuck in the air or whatever at.
I don't know, but it's David King.
Yeah, when, I know that his.
mom told him at one point to suck
her dry.
She's like, wow, man,
as if it could not get any weirder
from you already nailing your mom the whole
movie.
I mean,
when they...
What is this story going?
When he was bringing it to her, then they
the camera views to the mirror
and do you see whatever they are?
Oh, yeah.
Because they're like weird, big, like,
gummy bear looking things.
Gummy bear.
I don't know.
This is goosebumps too or what?
They were weird.
They were weird as cat creatures.
Now you're going to make me feel weird about gummy bears.
Yeah, well, just think about them.
Having sex as mother and son the next time.
Like that song, now when I hear it, I'm going to think about this movie all the time.
The gummy bear song?
No, the song they kept playing every time the mom and son were banging.
sleep lock
again
I can't listen to it
it's that song makes me sad
you think of the end of La Bamba
I knew you were going to bring that up
I knew you're going to bring that up
oh my god
I can't end
and it's opening this movie
but you already
you guys already that
yeah and then we already
yeah we already brought up Otho
trying to trying to
blow the main guy, right?
Otho from the Beal Juice.
See, and I thought it actually
had like a really
nice ramp
up. They were doing well
to tell the story and everything.
And it was a really good buildup
until that happened.
And then he turned into this cat guy
and ripped his hand off
and just everything went insane
after that. They just had these magical
powers.
They didn't explain everything. They were just
killing people and shit. It was
bonkers.
Yeah, I just
wanted more explanation of
what they were doing.
I mean, there was, unless
I missed it. I think they
missed it when they were right in this movie.
Yeah, I don't think you missed it. But I think
that's why it's on the so bad list
because of that. They never
explain what these people do
or any of that, sorry.
Was this different?
Go ahead. I think I know what you're about to ask.
Was this during the Coke years?
Yeah, that's just what I was going to have.
Oh, obviously.
This was during some major drug years.
Kobe Hooper was there.
You know there was powder everywhere.
Oh, that was partying going on.
And a
because it was just a Stephen King and his
friend's movie.
Mm-hmm. Yeah.
That's pretty much more.
Do you think this would fall under?
Because he's getting a lot of stuff remade.
Do you think anybody would ever even?
Because I could probably,
I could see this probably
going to TV.
series route.
Because you can,
yeah,
you can explain things more.
I mean,
I don't know.
Mother and son travel
town in town fucking the whole way.
That's a pretty major issue.
I don't know if we need to do that.
I don't know.
Yeah,
maybe change that part.
Because if it hadn't had that part,
it wouldn't,
it wouldn't have made the movie any worse.
Or,
I mean,
even any better,
really,
but you wouldn't have had to have the mom
nailing her son.
Why?
But that part was so weird.
There was no, it wouldn't have changed the story at all if they had.
What was the point of having that in the story?
That's what I'm saying.
When you write shit on cocaine, this is really, no explain it.
Cocaine is a hell of a drug.
Yeah.
They got people talking about it, though, just about how bad it was.
So we went from golden skin flutes to my son's.
Yeah, and the teacher trying to blow the
We've covered it all
He was straight up with him too
He was like, I ain't telling but you better get on your knees
Jesus Christ man
All right, well this isn't
I'd say this movie wasn't as good as I remembered it being
In the theater in 92 when I went to see it
But I was probably on a lot of drugs then too
So it probably makes a difference
So score time?
Yeah, sure.
Oh, man.
I mean, talking about it with you guys made me give it a higher score because I was leaning more towards a four.
Yeah?
So I would give it a five.
I'm in the middle.
I mean, it was bad.
Not terrible.
Not terrible.
Some of the, just the, I think why I give a little bit higher score or I'm in the middle was the weirdness.
of it all.
Yeah.
Really weird.
They always go back
to the mom banging the sun.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Give it a five.
You know,
it kind of tops the chart on weird.
Yeah, I'm going to go
one more and give it a six
for everything you said.
But I do have a nostalgic
thing for this movie because
this was always on cable
when I was younger.
Always.
And I would watch it every time.
It's just now I pick up more
things. Like, I just now picked up
the teacher trying to get the
guy to blow him. I didn't really pick that up
at first. So,
yeah, six.
This is this movie's fucking weird.
Yeah. I
think I'm right there with you. I'm
going to give it a six.
It's, I mean, definitely the best
bad movie that we watched this week.
I mean, just
Stephen King Factor alone.
But I thought the,
I thought the characters were kind of fun and
crazy.
and like the kid with all the jokes and the cop-cabob and all that shit.
It was because it was such a different movie at the beginning,
and then it just went crazy.
The last hour of the movie is insane,
and I kind of love it for that.
And as long as you take it for what it is,
I think it's definitely worth to watch.
It's probably one of my more favorite Stephen King movies.
What?
Well, I mean, if you take out like the classics, like, you know, Shawshank and shit like that.
Take out all the good ones.
Take out 90% of them.
And the 10% that's left, this is definitely one of the best ones.
Well, the stuff that eat, yeah.
Well, okay.
Yeah, you're right, no right.
That was maybe a misstep on my part.
All right.
Well, again, it was, I mean, it was fun to watch.
It definitely wasn't as, uh, what, what score did you give it again, Philip?
I six.
Okay.
Shit.
Damn.
sixes.
What is it, two sixes and a five?
Is that where we're at?
Yep.
Yeah, I hate to do it.
I'm only going to go four.
But that's a pretty good four.
It's still better.
Yeah, hell yeah.
It's definitely got higher production quality than either of the other two
movies we saw.
And I mean, you know, Mick Garris and Stephen King, you know, it's kind of hard to
totally kill it.
If you guys will go to IMDB and pull up the photos for,
the for this movie and just kind of scroll through them you'll see all the different uh all the
different transformation phases and when he's in the car and he's looking at the cop you guys laugh
your asses off maybe smoke a little and then look at it that's what i should have done but uh that was
an insane scene floor's not terrible four's not terrible so all right brian what i here's my
takeaway if you guys agree or not but can we can we make this not the last
is it that bad show?
Oh, I've, I've had the next installment already planned.
All right.
I'm down.
It was a hell of a lot of fun, man.
No doubt about it.
And as always, it's fun having you on board, my friend.
Thank you.
So we'll be listening for your shows.
Philip, you want to take us out?
Yeah, I don't have the thing for me.
You don't have it.
Oh, here we go.
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That's a really good idea.
