The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #113: The Year In Horror 1980, Part 1 - Motel Hell, Maniac & The Fog (Reupload)

Episode Date: April 29, 2024

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Katie Featherston and you're listening to The Horror Returns. Oh, wait, can you do it again? Yeah. Hey, guys, this is Katie Featherston, and you're listening to The Horror Returns. Victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where The horror returns.

Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. All right, welcome back, everybody, to The Horror Returns. I'm Lance and with me as always, my co-host, Uh, Brian and Philip, how's it going, guys? It is going good. Yeah?

Uh, pretty good, man, yeah. What kind of, uh, what kind of week did you guys have? Uh, not as good as you from, uh, all the pictures on Facebook. Sounds like it. Tell you what, man, went to, uh, went to a, uh, a podcast gathering for, uh, binge media. And, uh, these fuckers know how to put on a party. in Chytown Oh yeah

Dude Chicago was awesome man And everything that they said about $1 Miller Miller High Life And stuff like that at the recording Not true Not true

What a bunch of bitches They were free What Nice Damn it Now I'm really kicking myself I know a lot of our listeners were there and I know some of our listeners

would have liked to have been there but just suffice it to say if you ever get a chance to go to the to go to the binge media lalapalooza event that I guess they're going to looks like they're going to have to do it every year now because there's people going to demand that they do it

it's a great time man yeah we had the little get together back in the back patio at a dive bar the first night kind of the meet and greet thing for everybody Saturday was is the really awesome day because we went to a, like an old school video arcade with a whole bunch of 80s games and pinball machines,

and everything was free. Nice. Yeah, they had all the games set up where you could just play them for free. And Sunday we had the big recording where they actually recorded the show. But I got a real treat too because of one of the folks that happened in room with us at our Airbnb. is involved in a project that I had a chance to check out. So we will be discussing that as we move on to Cool of the Week. Ooh, interesting.

What did you guys do this weekend? Shit. Nothing. Come on, dude. Can't be that bad. I was supposed to be in Chicago with you, and my wife decided that her gallbladder was going to go out. She had some gallstones last week,

and we had to rush her to the hospital. hospital on Wednesday. So that's my not cool of the week. But we got it taken care of. She just came back home today. Everything is doing okay. Unfortunately, I did miss the trip. So super sucks. I'm really excited about next year. But I mean, she's doing better now. And she's like, no joke came home from the hospital today. Had surgery yesterday and is up cleaning house and shit. So she's I don't feel him better than she was last week. That's good. And while I was in the hospital, I suppose I can go with my cool of the week.

I don't know, the last few days are kind of a haze. But the show was pretty good, man. It took a minute to get going, and they introduced a whole lot of new characters that you don't know. Some of the bigger characters kind of took a back seat in this season. Okay. But, I mean, it was still, if you like the show, I don't see why you wouldn't. like this season. I love the way that they wrap it

up if you've seen it. They don't leave you on some dumb-ass cliffhanger or any of that. They close the season out and and give you some closure for the whole thing, you know? So is that it?

I mean, is that the end of the series? I don't know. It could be. Uh-huh. But I'm not real familiar with it. and I don't know if it's supposed to be or not. They kind of left it where they could just end it or they could keep going. So is it highly recommended then for anybody who hasn't seen it to get started with season one and check it all out? Oh yeah, dude.

It's a fun show to watch. It's pretty interesting the whole time. Lots of being seen, some that you may really not want to see. Oh, no. Just in general through the whole show, it's super vulgar. The reason it took me so long to even start it to begin with is because, you know, kids. Yeah. That's not when you can watch around kids.

Kind of like Deadwood, huh? Oh, is it? Okay. See, I haven't seen Deadwood. I need to start that one. I keep saying that, and I keep forgetting. Brian, what did you check out, man? Let's see.

first I want to give a congratulations to Blind Frankenstein, friend of the show. Yeah? Got engaged. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, that's right. I think I saw that on Facebook. Congratulations, my friend. Yeah.

I didn't really watch, I've been kind of slacking on the movies. I'm still watching Sharp Objects on HBO. I feel like it's getting better every episode. Dude, that's your third weekend? Is that your third week in the? in a row for that to be your, uh, your, uh,

your cool of the week. Yeah, I just think it's really, really strong performances. Cool of the week or just something you're watching during the week. It's definitely part of my cool of the week. I, like I said,

I, for me, it gets better. So I look forward to the next episode. Mm-hmm. And, uh, I just said,

didn't really watch. Oh, I did watch the first three episodes of, uh, Castle Rock. Oh, how was that? I'm digging it

It's kind of slow It is slow It's a lot of set up but Right It's also a lot of fun When you see All the Stephen King Easter eggs

And all the way they're trying to Connect the universe Yeah It's super fun To spot all those things I mean they're even Connecting stuff like stand by me And

Really Yeah Uh It's a small spoiler there's not really a spoiler but yeah there's mention of four boys from the 60s that found a dead body by the railroad

and then you're just like oh I know that movie and then you know they'll mention the mention the warden that shot himself in Shawshank and they're like you can still see the bullet hole in the wall oh wow it's other stuff that you know I'm just

like oh that's that movie and my wife's like shut up you're just ruining the show by pointing out everything and like but it's pretty good. So if you're a huge Stephen King fan, this is the one for you. Yeah, I think even if you're not really digging

the way the show's going, you'll still be interested, I guess, if you're a Stephen King, just from all the references and Easter eggs. Okay. And Bill Scars, yeah, Bill Scarsgaard's face is creeping me the fuck out.

The guy that plays Pennywise wise and it, yeah, he's just, he's one of the main characters and his face is very unsettling. Really? Yeah, it's just So, how does that work? Is he, but he's a separate

like he's not Pennywise in disguise or some crazy shit like that, I'm... Well, from what I see, he's a different character. I mean, they got Sissy Space Act from Carrie. She's playing a different character. All right. Well, yeah, that was fucking 30 years ago.

What was that? 50, fucking. Are you, no, I'm saying, are you sure she's not really Carrie? Just changed her identity? I mean, I don't know. There's so many different, you know, like, I don't really want to spoil it. Like, Jane Levy, I love Jane Levy. She's in this show. She plays a character whose name is Jackie Torrance.

Okay. So, I don't know. I mean, there's certain parts to the show where there's one character. I kind of feel like they have the, what is it, the shine, the shining or whatever? Sure. Yeah, so I don't know if they're going to connect it like that, but the character Sissy Space Egg plays is completely different from her carry role. So I don't know.

I mean, I don't know if they'll. Okay, so they use some of the same actors, give you some Easter eggs, something to look forward to if you're a Stephen King fan. Yeah. Well, as long as they don't bring Matthew McConae in there, man. That movie was terrible. that movie was terrible i still like matthew mccon hay though

i have a hard time i have a hard time aiding on could you imagine him as penny wise oh jesus christ probably not that seems like a bad idea it seems like bad i don't know they yeah they got penny wise down pretty good with who they picked didn't they

yeah i like down man i keep looking at that show like i'm when i'm when i'm driving around or thinking about it during the day or whatever i'm like man i really got to start that show And then when I come down to it and start looking for stuff to watch, I'm always like, eh, I don't really feel like it.

So that's it? Yeah. Yeah, well, you were talking about Castle Rock. I got to give a big shout out to our listener, probably favorite listener of the show, Patrick. Yeah. Even though he hates Last Jedi. Wow. You can't win them all.

Yeah, I actually flew into Kansas City to visit. him Thursday and then we got on the train and headed to Chicago Friday but yeah Patrick dude you treated me like royalty man he took me to get some real Kansas City barbecue

still not as good as Texas I don't think but that's just my opinion sorry guys that are listening that were asking me not sorry but it was still damn good and then he took me around to a couple of microbreweries after that and our boy Patrick

is quite the beer snob, it turns out. I didn't realize that. So, hipster Patrick. But, yeah, it was awesome. Patrick, dude, thank you for everything, man. It meant the world to me, the way you treated me. And I can't wait to come visit you again, man. Yeah, that was, I wanted to hang out with Patrick, too, man, and I didn't get to

freaking go. I hate that. Well, there's always next year. And we did watch the first episode of Castle Rock. We were both pretty nice. nonplussed. Really? But we were tired as fuck too, so...

Yeah. You know, Brian, if you're saying we should hang in there, we'll... You know, we'll give it another couple episodes before we judge. Okay. But my cool of the week, guys, we've talked about it before. We've seen the trailer. Our flatmate at the Airbnb, Justin Xavier Smith... Okay.

Screenplay for this movie, Sick for Toys. Oh. And I got to tell you, man. When I saw it, I was really fucking nervous because I'm like, oh, man, what if I don't like it? That would have been awkward. Not really, because Justin understands, man. He knows that if I didn't like it, I would have been honest with. And that's how we are on this podcast.

Everybody knows that. And then you say something stupid like I did to... No, no, not at all, dude. Honesty, man, honesty's the best policy on that type of thing. Yeah, that's true. and when he told me, especially when he told me what their budget was.

You guys, Brian, you ever heard of an actor, David Del Rio? He had a young Hispanic guy had a small part in the Belco experiment. One of the office workers. That sounds familiar. Yeah, you've probably seen him in other stuff. I think he was on like a Disney or a Nickelodeon

TV show, like a regular, like, I know he's been in a lot of other movies, like pitch perfect and stuff like that. but uh he what was the last name uh it's david del oh okay you'll know the guy when you see it especially from belko but no he uh he directed it and uh jimmy o came basically came up with a basic plot line and then justin fleshed it out and wrote the screenplay but uh for what they spent making it um i mean this movie easily looks like looks like the budget was ten times what they spent and I can't wait to have Justin on the show to talk about it because it comes out September 4th so I'm gonna have a lot of

have a lot of inside Hollywood to cover but I don't want to spoil anything but just suffice it to say if you guys liked the trailer and you thought you you thought you knew where it was going based on the trailer yes the first half of the movie is probably pretty much what you expect and then there's a couple of major twists that I think are, that come about pretty cleverly.

But, yeah, I can't, I can't say it enough. Sick for Toys is definitely my cool of the week. It was a great, great old school horror movie. Nice. Sometimes they almost showed more in what they didn't show, if that makes sense. Okay. But at the same time, they had some really good gore in there. They definitely earned the R rating.

But there were some parts that I would say, had they gone too much further with it. You know, it would have looked schlocky. Okay. And Justin said they decided not to go in that direction. They kind of wanted to keep it a little bit more tasteful. And I think they made the right call. So we'll be pushing it, man.

When it comes out on video September 4th, you guys can expect to, you guys are going to hear about this one again. And the lead actress, gorgeous, man. Her name's Camille Montgomery. I don't think she's been in anything really big, but she's going places, man. She's good. Cool. So it's not like a House of the Dead looking budget.

Not at all. No haunted house here. No, man, it's so different from that. In fact, Justin said they had one director that they talked to that came in and said, we're going to do this, we're going to do this, we're going to throw blood against the wall, we're going to make it look like a 1980s, you know, schlucky, you know, trauma type movie. And he said that they were given a lot of creative control to pick who they wanted to direct it. And I think they made the right call. but all of our listeners are going to find out because we know every one of you is going to check it out

when it comes out. So, yeah, badass movie. Thank God, right? It would have sucked if it did that. I know. I'm watching it with Justin. Well, good, man. I'm excited about it now.

But yeah, that's it. So you guys ready to move on. I know we got some headlines. Are you doing just the San Diego Mishmash again? Let's see. Joaquin's Phoenix's Joker movie. going out to some pretty big people. Yeah?

I think, as of right now, I think it might be confirmed that Robert De Niro is in the movie. Right. Also, Zazzy Beats. She played Domino in...

She's also... And... Lance's Hall, Pazzi Beach. Yes. And Francis Conroy, she is people know her best from American Horror Story. She is the older

lady with the red hair. So, yeah, they're going, I don't know what direction this movie's going in, but it looks like they're getting some talented actors and actresses. And release date is confirmed for October 4th,

2019. Okay. Okay. We're in. Yeah, I'm excited about this one. Let's see here. Can you guys hear that static?

A little bit. It may be me. It's gone. Is it gone? Well, fuck my life. Okay. Let me know if it comes back and I'll, I may have to reset the modem or kick them off the internet or something.

We'll do what we do, man. Yeah. All right. All right, let's push forward. Let's get into our first set of trailers. First one we're going to talk about is Origins, which is a new YouTube Red series. Okay. Did you guys get a chance to check this trailer out?

I don't remember a damn thing about it, man. Okay. A little brief synopsis. A group of strangers struggled to survival aboard a spaceship heading to a distant planet. And this star's, uh, don't know the actor's name on top of my head. He was, uh, the little, the little shit kid from a Harry Potter, a little blonde one. Which one? Do.

I don't watch any of that shit. Malfoy? Yeah. He's all grown up now. Draco Malfoy. He has a name. Tom Felton. Yeah, that's his name.

Does he play a douche in this movie? I can't tell from the trailer. Is it a movie or a TV series? It's going to be a YouTube Red series. Right. Okay. Oh, wow. It looks very, you guys ever check out a movie?

called a pandorum yeah i didn't like that either yeah it's got that kind of feel to it like they wake up on the ship and like something happened yeah like it's yeah like a weird pandorum feel

with like a fucking episode two star war's galaxy going on in the background flying cars and shit yeah i think i'll pass on this one yeah i mean I would have checked it out, but I already used my

free month of YouTube Reds. Comra Kai was probably 10 times better. But then again, I was questionable about that, too, remember? Oh, yeah. So who is? You know, I'll find a way

to watch it, so. I'm sure we all will. If it's good. Yeah, let's check out a couple episodes and see how it is, right? I'll reserve my judgment until one of you guys tells me to watch it. Fair enough.

Let's see. Our next TV series that dropped a trailer, a full trailer, is the Purge TV series. And there's Lance's review. You're not a Purge fan, though. No, I'm not a Purge fan. I'm a Fiona Dora fan. That's what I was about to ask you. Will you check it out because of that?

Yes, I will at least check it out. And it's only 10 episodes. I noticed that at the end, it's like a mini-series, basically. yes so that i will check out just for her but i as a matter of fact her character looked the most interesting does she run like a cult or something it she might it might be because there was they started to play off of that in some of the movies that there were certain groups right that almost took the purge as a religion oh wow so and it has another actress in it that um

very very very sexy actress uh you ever check out banshee never have seen it oh great show except for the last season but uh lily simmons uh she's on the show and uh okay uh another actress i like so i'm i'm a kind of i'm not gonna say kind of i am a fan of the purge movies because i know what i'm getting out of it i'm not getting like the greatest stories it is what it is and yeah these are connected to the movies from what I understand it's part of the same it's not like a separate universe or anything

or so I'll watch it what is it on it's going to to come USA and sci-fi it's going to be like a simulcast and I believe the release date is September 4th not too far away

would have been cooler if it was Netflix okay let's see did you guys watch the Stranger Things Season 3 teaser? Yes, I love the first part of it in the fake commercial. Okay.

Yeah, from what I understand, this teaser is really if you really watch it, they say that this kind of gives you a clue on what the third season is going to be about. Oh, I'm sure there's Easter eggs that are all through it that I just didn't catch. That's how they roll, you know? Stranger things in the mall, huh?

Yeah. But unfortunately, news came out yesterday that we will get season three next summer. I can wait. I can wait. Yeah, I'm all right with that. I liked the whole

thing, man. Even the second half of it where they're showing them at some like convention or whatever that they're doing. And they got the music playing in the background. And at the end, when they finally hit the Stranger Things opening theme music, which is

amazing. And the whole panel like turns upside down I kind of got goosebumps I'm excited about this and let's see one more television series I want to throw some news out there came out yesterday

Ultra Carbon season two green lit and Anthony Mackie will star in this season yeah what's that I don't like that what's the reason I mean not that I particularly love the actor in the first one why are they changing the

the main actor in it? From what I understand he's going to be playing the character that the first guy, I can't, fuck, I don't have any notes in front of me. The guy that played the main character in the first season. And for what I understand,

the series is based on books, and in the books, the story goes over like hundreds of years. Ah, okay. Makes sense. Same character. Basically, you know, how the bodies were sleeves. And it's just a different sleeve.

So it's still Takeshi Kovach, but it's in a different body? Yes. Makes sense, because that happens in the movie

or this TV show quite a bit anyway. Yeah, so I'm fine with it. I don't have a problem with Anthony Mackey, so. At least I have a reason for it.

Hopefully James Purfoy will be back. Yeah. Stay tuned for more news. We've got some movie release dates changed around.

Slender Man, which was coming out, August 24th, is moved up to August. Which, that movie's about to get crushed. I believe the Meg comes out the same day. It's been moved to win?

August 10th. Same day as the Meg. Same day as the Meg. The Meg. Well, yeah, especially coming off of Shark Week, people are going to go see that. You know what, though, we may have to double down anyway, guys, because we've got two listeners, one of which really wants to be on the Meg and one of which really wants to be on Slender Man. Okay.

As a matter of fact, I think we have two that want to be on the Meg, don't we? Hell, I'll watch them. Yes. I was already planning to go check out both because they just dropped a new trailer for Slender Man. And it kind of piqued my interest a little bit. Tell me it looks awesome. It looks like it could be awesome, but it looks like it could go completely the other way. I'd be happy either way because I'm still at least two movies away from fleshing out my bottom five for the year, even after that atrocity last week.

You think so? Oh, but guys, I certainly hope you're not planning on seeing both of those opening weekend using your movie pass. Oh, no, because I have canceled my movie. Pass. Did you? Okay. What happened with that? Well, mine, I took my daughter to see what just came out. Teen Titans Go, the new DC animated movie, and couldn't use my movie pass. At all. At all.

It was, uh, it's blacked out right when you tried to do. Yeah, completely. And then the next day, I was going to go watch Mission Impossible and I got When I check for news and stuff, it said that we will not be able to watch Mission Impossible at all. Yep. And then I heard news that they are going to up the membership price, and they are basically going to not allow you to watch any major movies.

Oh, fuck that. First of all, the membership price should have been up a year ago. We talked about that more than once. And secondly, they should be, I mean, if they're going to up the membership price, they should at least up it enough that they're able to break even and still allow people to watch movies opening weekend. Yeah. Well, it was, I mean, when the thing came out, I mean, I don't know when it came out, but when it made headlines, it was because it was like, wait a minute,

you're telling me I can pay 10 mucks a month and see as many movies as I want to. That doesn't sound like a very good business model, you know? Not really. Sure enough. Yeah, I mean, I have no problem because the price was only going to go up from $999 to $14.99, I believe, which I have no problem with. You're telling me I can't go watch nothing. Nothing new. I mean, yeah.

Yep, that's it for me, man, because actually I figured I did. did the math on mine or I looked it up because I was trying to see what do I need to do to cancel it before it charges me for another year and mine's up October 17th so when October 17th rolls around it's definitely bye-bye movie pass

now are they still going to let you see the new movies and stuff or they blacking those out no they fucking got those blacked out as well dude see that's fucked up because they've already got your money yeah they already got my money and I'm one of the ones that signed up for the full year and they said they weren't going to do peak pricing for me, which they haven't. But all I could go and do is see a movie that's been out for at least two weeks.

I mean, come on. That's what we do here is we go to see the newest movie that comes out so we can talk about it. Who's barely in the theaters at that point? Yeah, and I was so looking forward to Mission Impossible. I've heard good things. Yeah, Mission Impossible, killed movie pass. See how that. goes.

Let's see. Another movie that gets official release date, Zambi Land, October 11th, 2019. Yeah, quite a wait. New Vin Diesel comic book movie Bloodshot,

which I never heard of. Oh yeah, Bloodshot? Yeah. February 21st, 2020. Is that a D.C. thing? No, Bloodshot's an independent comic company. Oh, crap, man.

Who is it that has Bloodshot. Valiant. Valiant comics. Oh, okay. Any good? Yeah, it's excellent. They do that.

They do one called Exo Mano War, which I think they're also making into a movie already. They greenlit that. They have one called Turok Son of Stone, which is basically like a caveman who comes to modern times. But he has that skill set that you would need to run away from big tigers and shit like that in the jungle. Like Encino Man? Like Encino Man. I'm 100% like Insino Man, dude. Exactly.

In fact, they probably used... No, you just sold me. Now, Valiant has some pretty good comics, man. They're real high on the sci-fi elements. They have a lot of heavily sci-fi. I think I had a few back in the day. Bloodshot's like an assassin. You know, he is, I guess,

there are maybe some similarities to Deadpool, but he's definitely not the same character as Deadpool. Okay. Is Vin Diesel going to fuck this out? No, I think Van Diesel would be. be quite honestly, I visualized it when I heard he might be in it, and I thought that would actually be the perfect role. He could pull off superhero.

Yeah, especially this one, man. Yeah, he was wanting to fade in the furious. Yeah, no kidding, man. He basically was flying through the air. I'll forget his scene where he had his armor and his bulletproof shield. Oh, Jesus Christ, man. Well, I'm all in for Vin Diesel playing bloodshot, man. I think he'll be perfect for the role.

cool uh quentin tarentino's once upon a time in um in hollywood starring everybody in hollywood uh moves from august ninth to july 26 so they're moving it up next year for a couple months i wonder if he just said that he's only going to do like a couple more movies or whatever so that like the actors that haven't been in a quentin tarrantino movie yet would be like all right i need to be in this movie right now great idea i can honestly though I think I honestly could see him retiring though. Yeah, I can too, but that would be a good fucking marketing tool right there. Yeah, I see what you're saying.

Casting News, Walking Dead. Dan Fogler, Lauren Ridloff, and Eleanor Matsura joined the cast, and I guess they're playing prominent characters from the comic book. Dude, how the fuck you're going to tell me a lazy, fat fucking slob like Dan Fogler is going to be this. far into the zombie apocalypse without having been eaten? I don't know how they're this far into the zombie apocalypse while still being fat. There's so many of them.

They're like they've got this famine. And then like I know What's Her Face was pregnant for part of the season and they tried to kind of hide that. Right. It's like, why are there still overweight people? Eugene. What the fuck is he doing?

Yeah. Where is he getting all his goddamn food from? You know. I'm still looking forward to the season, but that, I don't like that casting, man. Who else besides Fogler? Lauren Ridloff. And who is that? I have no idea.

And Eleanor Matsura. Okay. No idea who either of them are, man. No. They're grass-bit straws now, aren't they? Yeah. They got Dan Fogler. I feel like this season is a last...

Yeah, I feel like this season is a last ditch effort. I don't know. Unfortunately, they're still making a shitload of money on that, man. Well, yeah, it's still AMC's biggest thing, but not near as much as they were at the beginning. Mm-hmm. Yeah, I've said it before, and I'll say it again. This is going to be the Simpsons of Zombie shows.

This thing will still be here 30 years. years from now just with a totally different cast. Yeah, maybe. I know that was the plan. On to another zombie show, Fans of Z Nation. Let's see, Netflix is ordering a spinoff of that show called Blacks.

Yeah, Black Summer, I think. Starring Jamie King. Jamie King. Huh. That sounds racist. Black Summer. I believe that's what it's called. Yeah, I've never seen an episode of Z Nation. Isn't that?

I haven't either. I think it's on sci-fi. Yeah, I watched the first two episodes or so, and I'm like, this is stupid. You know? But, I mean, that's what a lot of people say about the Walking Dead now. Several people say Z Nation's better than the Walking Dead now. Oh, wow. I've heard that a lot.

Overtaken the Throne. I've definitely heard that from, uh, Doc Rotten and some of the guys over at Horror News. Okay. Yeah, maybe it's worth checking out. Who knows, man. All right, now, into the big trailers that came out this past Comic-Con weekend. The first one, Lance, I can already tell.

If you comments earlier, you don't care. So, fantastic beast, the crimes of Grindalwald. Yeah, I sat through that trailer. Not a fan, huh? Not a fan. I saw the first Harry Potter movie, dude, and I fucking turned it off halfway through. How do you not like Harry Potter? I don't know.

You know what? I was the same way, Lance. I only watched the fur. Took my kid younger. Didn't care. Right. But when we reviewed the first Fantastic Beast, I did a re-not-not-not-can-say- rewatch because I only seen the first one. I watched

the whole movie series and I have I am kind of a fan now. I kind of appreciate it more. I mean, your man, Dan Fogler's in it, so, you know, it's got to be good, right? It's busy, keep it busy. I'll watch it.

I'm not, I haven't read the books or any of that stuff, but I have seen all the Harry Potter movies and I kind of love them. I mean, I'm not like a super fan like some of these kids are, but, uh, It's not exactly my age range either. But they're still good, man.

I love them. Yeah, Jude Law is playing Young Dumbledore. Right. Johnny Depp playing the main villain. Sexy Zoe Kravitz is in this one. Yeah. Johnny Depp, man.

Just cover him in makeup and stick him with a weird voice. That's his thing. Right. Okay. let's see uh shazam was uh front and center this uh yeah i'm a con chazam chazam chazam um nobody anybody like shazam nobody listen no no no all right i was just waiting for you guys to trash it first no no no no i'm go ahead i'm a little bit excited about this and let me come behind and trash it go ahead i'm a little bit excited about this i think okay okay

Listen, I may catch hell for this, but a lot of DC comic characters are kind of cheesy. Okay, I mean, even Superman. The only reason we love Superman is because he's been in pop culture for, you know, 60 years. But this one looked fun. It looked like they were like embracing the cheese. And when I heard about making this movie, I was like, man, this is stupid flying. Fuck, are they going to do this? And I think it looks fun, man.

It looks really funny. It's not going to be a, you know, it's not going to be an Avengers. But I think it's not going to be entertaining to watch. Okay. And you'll let you know, right? I'm going to second you. I think it looks fun. I think it looks different from what DC has been doing.

this is the road DC should take yes the cheesiness I think they know what they're doing I didn't understand the casting of Zachary Levi but then seeing him seeing them in this I understand now because I'm not the biggest

Shazam fan so yeah so I didn't really know what the character was but then watching this I like where they're going it's it looks like it's gonna be fun and I can't say that about any other DC movie that it looked like it was going to be super fun.

Right. This was probably my favorite trailer that we watched. Okay, well this is far and away my least favorite trailer that we watched. Well, look, you guys didn't live through the 80s like I did. You didn't know that this has already been done before and it was called The Greatest American Hero.

Was that where Shazam? They used to have a Shazam TV show, right? It looks like a shot-for-shot remake of the TV show The Greatest American Hero except that, well, it's that mixed with Big. Because it's like Tom Hanks playing big, like walking around on a fucking piano going, oh, gee, oh, golly, oh, whiz, oh, wow, oh, you've sure got big boobies, lady. You know what, I mean, come on. It's fucking stupid, man.

I don't want this kind of garbage, man. Well, that might make it work with it. I thought it sounded funny when you made fun of it. Now I won't watch it even more. So bad. And who is this thing, who's it directed by? David F. Sandberg. He did Annabelle Creation and Lights Out.

Oh, wait a minute, really? That's weird. Yeah. That's very weird. But hey, you know. All right. You got me at least... You've at least got me thinking about it now? But no, man, this didn't impress me at all, man.

You know what? I think that Levi needs to go back to... If anything, why doesn't he just do a new movie to let us all know what Chuck's been up to, you know? I've never seen that show. I haven't either. totally rather see this than Chuck. Nah, Chuck's a good show, man. It did kind of jump the shark of the last season.

I'll admit, but, I mean, what show that's gone more than three or four seasons hasn't? Yeah. All right, well, you guys enjoy... Oh, wait a minute. Brian. Oh, yeah. You fucking asshole. You are, aren't you?

I already have a horror movie to pair with it, so... Oh, no. Lance, you don't, you know, we can wait. It doesn't come out until April. Okay. No, no, no. I'm in. I'm in.

If it's on the docket, I'm in. I'm not going to pussy out and skip this one like I did some of the, like the fucking crimes of Grimwald or whatever. That one I'm going to sneak out on. Like I did the first. Yeah. This one, I don't think that one will at least see. I don't think.

I don't think that one will be on the docket. But I am watching that one too. Okay. Yeah, definitely. And the next DC, the big DC trailer that was released was Aquaman. And I will start this off by saying I was pleasantly surprised by what I've seen. I mean, it's a lot of CG, but that's come to be expected. It's James Wan, right?

Yes, James Wan. And the couple things I will say compared to what we've seen at Aquaman from Aquaman in Justice League, this looks, way more lighter and colorful. Okay. When you got the underwater scenes with Aquaman and the mirror, the water looked dark and dirty and dingy and...

Okay. And the other thing that I like that they got rid of was in Justice League. They did that air bubble thing so they could talk underwater. Completely just got rid of that, because I don't understand why they needed an air bubble to talk underwater, so... Well, I mean, it has a pretty

good cast. I have faith in Mamoa. no matter what he does. So I know he's going to, I know I'm going to like him in it. But quite frankly, the movie looks like shit. And to go back to something we had, we were talking about leprechaun in the hood, Philip, is it racist or isn't it? Do they really have to call every African American villain black something? Is it really necessary? In the D.C. universe?

You know, normally it doesn't bother me that much. Like, Black Panther didn't bother me that much because there's a big history behind the Black Panthers, you know? And that kind of jumps to mind. but for some reason I found this offensive, man. Well, they didn't do an Ant Man versus the Wasp. They had a... What is Morris Fishburn's character's name? He's like the...

I don't know that Marvel Comics with that character in it too much, but I know he was another character. He's the black something, but they didn't call him that in the movie. No, is he really? Yeah. Are you serious? Because he was like the big giant guy, like the black giant or something like that. I'm going to get lit up, but you know what I mean.

Get a whole bunch of white guys, white wasp guys writing and drawing all the comic books. I guess you're going to get a lot of that anyway, huh? It's empowering. I will say Black Manza looks comic accurate, though. Oh, really? Yeah, see, I don't, I didn't read Aquaman too much because he was just like a dumbass in Speedos that could talk to fish and that was all. like we really made fun of him back in the day like the old yeah it's kind of a super

like DC cheesy character man that's what I'm talking about but there I I can't I can't hate on it if James Juan is directing it but we'll see about that if they took his name out of the preview after watching it I'd have been like we'll see

it's got a good cast Nicole Kidman Patrick Wilson Willem Defoe mm-hmm I have faith in him I think they'll do right by this one. Let's see what happens. John Lundgren's in this movie. Yes.

I like that. Hey, I will tell you guys this. The only two things I liked about Justice League were Mamoa and Wonder Woman. Yeah. Can't be too bad. And Super Red Stash. December 21st. Oh, real quick.

Just time for Christmas, huh? Teen Titans Go, the movie was funny. Because they referenced the mustache thing a lot. Did they? Serious? Yeah. They made fun of the Green Lantern movie. They, there was a, because everybody knows Gene Hackman played Lex Luthor.

So there was Gene Hackman reference. There was, uh, Marvel references. No kidding. I thought I was, uh, I thought I was going to be really annoyed with this movie, taking my kid too, but I was actually, uh, laughing. There was a lot of, I think a lot of, go. Yeah. It's a great show, man.

My kid watched it growing up, and I'm definitely taking him to it. So are you saying this was your cool of the week, Brian? Yeah, I totally forgot because the whole fucking movie past thing made me forget about it. But I enjoyed it. Cool. But back to the news, we have two more trailers before we finish news. Let's get to them real quick. Godzilla, King of Monsters.

Couldn't care less. Couldn't care less. Really? Really? If it's as bad as that one with Cranston, what's the fucking, why even bother watching it? Well, this is a completely different director doing it. Well, I mean, they had the King Kong movie. That was pretty decent. I mean, I know we had differing opinions on it, but... Right.

Who's directing this one, Brian? It is... What is his name? He did trick-a-treat and... crampus what Douglas or Dowardy right yeah I'm in

okay I'm in I'll give it a shot Michael Dower guys are directing I'll give it a shot I'll give it a shot Yes they are Yes they are

I'm in I'm in just to see what he can do with it Oh you're so lucky because I couldn't pull up my binge media Sounder board Everybody to download that app Because I was going to hit you with the

What the fuck is happening right now Oh, no. We may be having some copyright infringement issues going on here. But, yeah, I'm all in. The cast looks pretty good. Millie Bobby Brown, Vera Formiga. Let's see. Kyle Chandler.

Yeah? Ken Watanabe. There's a lot of people in this. Ice Cube Sun shows up in it. Okay. He's. Making a name for himself. And Charles Dance shows up.

So, yeah, I'm all in, definitely. You got all the classic Godzilla monsters in it. It looks cool, man. I'm excited. I was excited about this one, too. I know we're going to be there, so I don't know what I'm binging about. Well, we have to be. Yeah, this is going to be a summer block.

When does it come out? May 31st. Yeah, that sounds about right. And on to our last. trailer and news is M. Knight Shalamans if I kind of feel like I said that wrong.

Shalma Ding Dong. Glass. Right. What did you guys think of glass? I'm ready to keep giving him a chance. I mean, he's made a couple of good ones in a row, so I think he's back, you know?

It's got a good staff. Now, it looks like it's a little Maccaboy heavy. I just, I didn't even hardly see Bruce Willis in it at all, but I am hopeful that in the actual movie, Bruce Willis has a bigger part because that poor son of a bitch man, he needs a break.

He's been in so much shitty direct-to-video crap where he's even done one day of filming. He needs a hit, man. By the way, the trailer and the name of the movie and how the other movies win, I kind of think

this is going to be more Sam Jackson. That'd be cool. Dude, those are three of my favorite actors on the planet. James McAvoy, Samuel Jackson, and Bruce Willis. Even though it looks like they're rehashing a lot of the stuff from Split, I'm down, man. I'm definitely going to watch it. I hope it's awesome.

Somebody pointed out a very cool thing that it's just a theory, but if you guys watched the trailer again, the scene where there's a guy standing in a comic book shop And one side says hero, one side says villain. Okay. My friend was saying he thinks that's Bruce Willis' son. Really? And that his theory is that maybe his son has the same powers that Bruce does, but he's kind of conflicted on which path to take.

Oh, his son from Unbreakable? Yeah. Okay. That's interesting. All right. Cool. But sounds like we're all in. I was like, man, I thought he had a bunch of things.

of girls. Yeah. January 18th. Okay. And any other trailers or news? Just look on our Facebook page, Twitter, Instagram, but

as of right now, that is all the news. Well, that's enough, man. It's so much, in fact. What are we doing about feedback this week, Philip? We have the first run. Unfortunately, I gave most of them away at the weekend

festivities, but we've definitely got Josh's put aside for him, and if you wrote the new review, you know who you are, but we need to know who you are, and we also need to read it on the air, so let me do something here real quick, Philip. Oh, yeah, man, if you got it, definitely pull it up.

My phone's not. I do have it, and I can send you a screenshot got? Because if we're going to be big enough fucking assholes to ask for them and beg for them every single week, the least we can do is read them when they first come out. I know it. Am I right? I'm going to ask. Oh, hang on. I got it. You got it? You sure? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because the one from June 7th, that was, we already determined who's that was.

Dante Lynch. He'll be sent. Yes, sir. He says, I love this show. I've been listening since episode five and haven't missed one cents. The host keeps it tight with the format of presenting two movies old and new with the similar themes. If you're into horror, check this show out. Five stars. Thank you, sir. Well, and that was Chad. We read that one a couple weeks ago, man. Oh, well, now here's the other. It's worth reading twice. It is worth reading twice. It's good stuff. So the next one is from Samurai Devi.

It says, I found the show earlier this year while listening to another horror-based podcast. Hmm. It'd be interesting to see which one that is. And couldn't stop listening. I had to go back and listen to every one of the episodes in the back catalog. I'd love to be a guest on the show one day and talk about some good old horror movies. Definitely. You know, shoot us an email, and we'll definitely watch on a show, man.

That's awesome. Yeah, and what's the email address again, Phil? I don't have the email address on the screenshot. But I got Samurai Devi is the screen name. All right, so Samurai Devi, you know who you are? Send us an email at The Horror Returns at Gmail and let us know who you are. And we'll get that T-shirt ordered for you because now that I've got a source, I can get them printed pretty quickly now.

So we will get you hooked up. And Brian, what's on? Sorry, I wasn't prepared, guys. That's all good, man. Brian, is there an update on the Blu-ray you're going to send out? Yep. You know what? I got a bunch here that I can send out, so I just have to pick which one.

But I have also a, I got an extra box of Funko cereal that comes with a mini Jason Vorhees Funko Pop inside. What? I know who wants that one. Am I available to leave a review for that one? Oh, yeah, back to Cool the Week. Sorry, guys. My son wanted to be, he's seven. He wanted to be Jason for Halloween.

And I'm like, okay, well, you can't be Jason if you haven't seen the movie. And so, Trevor's eyes during the naughty bits. But we watched the original Friday the 13th. And he was freaking out that mom was the killer and not Jason. Spoiler. That's pretty cool, man. Sorry. Spoiler for a fucking 40-year-old movie.

All right. We'll definitely give back to feedback next week. And, you know, keep that stuff coming, guys, because we're going to have plenty to talk about. So you guys ready for featured? Let's do it. Yep. All right.

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We're finally into the 80s, man. So this is actually going to... We're going to start with 1980. And Brian, am I right? This is actually... There's so many horror movies in 1980 that this is only going to be part one. Part one of...

Yes, part one. All right. Because we've got to have Friday the 13th, and it's not on this show. Yes. Oh, for sure. And what, so what three are we covering tonight, Brian? We are doing LaFog, Motel Hell, and Maniac.

Toby Hooper was originally going to direct this movie, but when the studio balked at the Bizarre Project, Hooper also skidaddled. And this is interesting. Henry Dean Stanton was originally approached to play Farmer Vincent, but he turned it down. And the movie's last piece here, the movie's original screenplay was originally a darker, more disturbing piece with beastiality. A lot more violence and it was definitely not a black comedy. So, Brian, you picked this one, man.

Is there something you like about this one or do you have good memories of it? This is a first time watch. Oh, really? That was recommended to me by a bunch of people. And I kind of like this movie. It was really fucking weird to the point where I have questions to ask you guys. But we'll get to that in a minute. I thought everybody was fine in it.

The main character, what was his name? The farmer? Yeah. Him and his, what was she to him? His wife. Daughter, wife, cousin slash wife. Yeah. I thought they were good.

They were entertaining. They were goofy. Right. Kind of cheesy. What's his name? I could not stand him. The brother, the sheriff, he was like,

goofy as all hell. Right. But the thing, okay, now they were making the people on the sausage, right? Is that what they were doing? Philip?

You got me on this one. Uh-oh. did we lose Philip? You there, Brian? Yeah, I'm here. Did we lose Philip? Yeah, maybe we can pull them back in. I guess we'll talk for now.

Okay. It looked like it was weird, man. It's like they would bury them like they were plants or something like that. And then they would just like... Yeah, because... ...on the ground and feed them through tubes and shit and then make songs around of them. My wife came in, kind of in and out during the movie and was just like, why are they... Why are they...

If they're making them in the, like, meats, like, sauce... and jerky or whatever, why are they planting them in the ground? Makes no fucking sense. Yeah, sorry guys, had to party break. Oh, there it is. Okay. Yeah, no, but I heard that last. Speaking of making sausages.

My, well, it wasn't that long. I'll probably break. Yeah, my wife started watching this one with me, and she got bored and walked off. But, yeah, that was a, this whole goddamn thing was crazy because I'm, mostly because of the planning people in the ground with the fucking bag over their head. Okay, why were they in the ground? So he could

trap them and fatten them up. Good reasons. I see halfway... Halfway through, I thought they were planting them in the ground to fertilize like the herbs and stuff they were using for

the sausages or something. That wasn't the case when they pulled them out using the tractor. I don't know. This movie got really weird. And then, like I said, I couldn't explain the relationship between the farmer and the chick that was always with them. Because she's insane.

Why was she sticking around? Wait, no, no, no, not the girl that they... Oh, oh, the sister. Yeah, okay. That was his sister? Yeah. Okay. I thought that was his girlfriend or his wife or something.

The heavy set one, right? Yeah, yeah. That was his weird sister. Okay, I see, I got totally lost within the weirdness of this movie. Yeah, I did too, man. It was definitely interesting. It was worth the watch. I loved it when it started. Like, the first half hour was an awesome novelty type of... I mean, this would have been great as like a fake trailer for a Tarantino movie or something like that.

But as far as an hour and a half keeping my attention, just... Couldn't do it. Couldn't do it, guys. Not that great a movie. You know, at the first, at first, when I first finished this movie, I was like, man, this is really fucking dumb. But the more I think about it and the more I look into it, I mean, it was kind of fun to watch. It kept me entertained the whole time. Rory Calhoun was on point. I mean, he carried this whole movie.

It was definitely a dark comedy. And I kind of think that maybe it would have been a way better movie if Toby Hooper had done it. And it was some kind of crazy, gory thing. Maybe. Yeah, maybe. Yeah, I could not get behind the sheriff. Yeah, he was kind of a jackass. Yeah, because it's like, are you supposed to root for him?

I mean, he did try to rape that girl when they watched that movie. So I'm like, we're, like, we're supposed to root for him later. Yeah, it was a whole weird concept. And then the poster for the movie and the teaser and all that is like the guy with the pighead and the chainsaw and all that stuff. And he didn't even show up with the pig head. Spoiler, but that's what we do, until the very end of the movie. Right. And why the fuck did he even have it on?

they made it look like some kind of crazy slasher movie in the poster and it wasn't at all that whole chainsaw fight at the end of it was ridiculous what did you think lance did you at least like wolfman jack is reverend belly oh yeah i always love wolfman jack dude when i because i you know i grew up like at the 70s so i remember my dad i was watching the midnight special on a tv and then i remember hearing wolfman jack on the radio and stuff like that so yeah dude that's a very distinctive voice for sure and then what did he play like a reverend or a or a preacher or something like that yeah reverend reverend billy yeah i mean it was it was pretty cool seeing him but uh like i said man that this movie if they if they had made this okay you know

what if this had been one of three or four um you know movies and you know like a and an analogy or whatever what am i trying to say you know what i'm saying you know what i'm Like a trilogy or something? Oh, I got you. An anthology? Yeah, an anthology or, yeah, like a trilogy of like three stories. Like if it had been a 25 or 30 minute story, I think this would have been perfect. I got it.

But it just couldn't hold me. Like you said, Brian, you, dude, you broke it down. And when you said, why are they bothering to, like, bury these people like fucking plants? And I guess it was just because it looked weird and because it kind of was so realistic or something like that. But I just didn't, you know. Yeah. Not my cup of tea, man. A lot of things I didn't, go ahead.

And then when he got ready to kill him and he had that, like, hypnotizing machine. Yeah, that was weird. That's kind of. I'm sure Joe Bob Briggs has seen this and rated it before, right? Yeah. And another thing was weird was when they actually escaped out of the ground. They were just, for some reason, zombies. Yeah.

Well, they sort of made them look like zombies while they were in the ground. They had this whole zombie thing. And I thought that's what they were for a while. Right. And then I realized they just cut their vocal cords. Mm-hmm. I don't know. So, I don't know.

It was crazy. Yeah, I don't have a lot to say about this one. Yeah, ratings. Sure. Who went first? I'll give it a five. Yeah? I was halfway entertained.

I thought everybody was okay. I think I was most entertained with just how weird this movie was. I just, I think that's what kept me going through the movie. I just want to see how weird it would get, and it would get a little bit weirder. Yeah, same here. Same here. Some ago. Yeah, it was, I can't quite give it a five.

I'll give it, I'll give it like a four and a half. It's just a little under dead even. I mean, it's worth watching. I mean, if you're into horror movies and you've never seen Motel Hell from 1980, I know you've heard about it, and you may love it. I mean, it's definitely a cult classic, but for me, it doesn't get higher than four and a half. Yeah, I think four and a half

is about right where it should be. It's definitely not... I mean, I guess maybe they have some sort of weird cult following or something, but it's definitely not a classic. This is... You're going into the deep guts of horror movies here. And... Like you said, Brian, it's...

It's definitely mildly entertaining through the whole thing, just because of how fucking weird it is. None of it makes any god damn sense she's like the weird sister is trying to kill somebody or the the the new wife apparently the young girl oh we didn't even talk about her yeah she's like let's let's let's go tubing and so they go tubing on this lake and instead of like she pulls out this razor blade like she's fixing to kill the chick and instead she cuts her own tube makes a fart sound and they both start to go under she's coming to like help her

and then she's trying to drown her. And I'm like, that's how you're going to kill her. You buried people in your yard. Yeah, I didn't understand the girl. I'm like, you had no place to go. You just decided to live with them. Yeah, she's like, well, you saved me and, you know, you buried my biker boyfriend, I guess.

Hell, I don't know. I guess. Like, the day after, she wakes up, and they've already buried him because he apparently died. and she's just okay with this. She's like, yeah, I'll say here, let's get married. It's fucking insane. And then when the guy tried to rape her, she's like, that's okay, let's continue our date.

Yeah, it was a little weird. This movie's weird. Almost like you didn't know what it wanted to be, it seemed like, you know, after a while. Yeah. Where's Toby Hooper when you need him? writers C.A. Rosenberg and Joe Spinell. William Lustig and Joe Spinell said they didn't always have the necessary permits to film on location in New York City. Certain scenes, including the infamous shotgun through the windshield scene, had to be filmed quickly,

and afterwards the crew had to run away before the cops arrived. Another thing they did, in order to keep cost down, several porn actresses were hired to play the victims. So this is one that, guys, unfortunately, you guys are going to have to talk about, I missed it, but it's one I really wish. I kind of wish I had seen this one. Tell me I'm right. Yeah. I really enjoyed this one.

Joe, what is it, Joe Spinell? Mm-hmm. He is very, very convincing at a fucking psychopath. Just his whole look. And sometimes he's just all bug-eyed and breathing heavy and super sweaty and just kind of making this weird kind of groaning, grunting sound when he's, he like sees a woman that I guess he wants to kill and chop off uh chop off their hair and put it on his mannequins that he has that is a little crappy little apartment and okay yeah he's

scalp them yeah it is and that shotgun scene is amazing and I can only imagine them filming it because it was done really well and I believe it was Tom Savini that got his head blown off. Yeah. It was actually another fun fact, Tom Savini who fired the gun, because he did all the special effects on this one too. I can just imagine that

somebody walking by watching them film the scene of something getting their head blown off, and then everybody just taking off running. That's got to be fucking crazy to see. But overall, I thought Maniac was fucking great. It was just kind

It kind of gave you that. I got the same feel when I watched Texas Chainsaw Masker, that kind of grimy, sweaty, dirty kind of feel to it. And it kind of gave me that. It's just the way he played this character that definitely had a lot of mommy issues that he was constantly talking about or talking to his mom or asking forgiveness. It was pretty crazy. Yeah, it was definitely crazy.

This was my favorite one that we watched. out of this group of movies, I think. I don't know how I haven't seen this movie or have never heard of it. But I was really pleasantly surprised through the whole thing, man. I thought they did a really good job. It's low budget like low budget should be, man. They made it look great. And kept me interested through the whole storyline.

It was very, you know, serial killer suspenseful, the whole kind of thing. You're following the maniac. guy the entire time. So you're like from his perspective and seeing his weird things instead of following the like the victims or the main actresses or whatever. And I liked it, man. I thought it was really good. Yep.

And Tom Savini plays disco boy. That's who gets his head blown off. Man, I wish I'd seen this. So I'm going to go back and find it. Yeah. I said that was like the same Tom Savini like mannequin thing that they used for another movie also until they blew his head off.

Yeah, it is, the effects, the practical effects are really good in this. There are some, like, there was a scene where a girl was getting her throat cut, and you could see it was clearly a rubber knife because it was kind of bending a little bit. Yeah. But for the most part, I thought all the practical effects really good. Tom Simeini. You gotta knows what he's doing.

So, yeah, don't really want to, you haven't seen in Lance at all? No, I haven't, but it's definitely on the list, man, because I saw the remake, and the remake was pretty damn good, the one that was all filmed in the coolest point of view. Yeah, I recommend that one, too, Elijah Wood. What's, yeah, what's better, this one of the remake?

I like the whole point of view in the Elijah Wood one. Just for the grittiness of this one, I would have this one. It's pretty out there, huh? Yeah. You know, even though it's not far off from it. Cool.

Yeah, it's, they did a great job on this one. I don't know how it's not more popular. Yeah, I think it's getting a Blu-ray release here, like a special edition, I believe, in September, so. Okay. I'll start out the ratings. Let's see. I will give this.

I really enjoyed this. Joe Spinell was great in it. I like Tom Savini's makeup effects and practical effects. I'm going to give it an eight. Cool. Wow. That's a damn high rating, man. Yeah, I'm right there with you. That was my score when we were supposed to do the show last week.

Yeah, I'm going to give it an eight. It's great, Lance, you got to check this one out. I can't. I'm going on iTunes then because I couldn't find it anywhere else. I was limited for time, you know, getting ready for the trip and all that. But you can make excuses forever. Bottom line is, Maniac strongly recommended, and I will definitely check it out. Probably be one of my cool of the weeks in the next few weeks.

Yeah, but we're talking about the 1981. And director was John Carpenter, of course, also known for. for Halloween and The Thing, among many other movies. Writers, John Carpenter, and Deborah Hill. Okay, a few other noteworthy people involved in this film. These are some names I pulled out and found when I was looking through the credits. Actually, I noticed on the opening credits. A couple of these, cinematographer Dean Cundee,

also known for Halloween 1 through 3 as well as Jurassic Park. And, yeah, also makeup artist Rob Botton. We talked about him a lot for the thing. Remember, he's the guy that would work like 16-18-hour days and not go home, and Carpenter first made him go home. And he also did the makeup for Robocop. Okay, the band mentioned on the radio near the beginning is the Coup DeVills, which is a real band that features director John Carpenter.

Oh. And most people that listen to us probably already know this, but Janet Lee and Jamie Lee Curtis are real-life mother and daughter. So the Fog, all-star cast for sure. I had seen this movie once, but it was many, many, many, many years ago, like probably in the early 80s or something like that. And I really remember Adrian Barbeau. Yeah, oh, yeah.

And that's kind of when I sort of fell in love with her in that deep, that sexy voice on the radio that she had. And, you know, of course I didn't appreciate it back then, but, you know, having people in it like, you know, Janet Lee, Jamie Lee Curtis, John Hausman, The Eternal Pimp, Tom Atkins. Yes, he is. Hal Holbrook, I mean, you know, you're talking about an All-Star cast. I had forgotten how much I fucking love this movie. This was just like, this was, to me, this was like the horror, the horror fans' horror movie.

Because it had absolutely everything in it, and it was very tastefully done. There was, there wasn't even any. gore in it at all, was there guys? Um, a little bit, but not, not too out of hand, I would say, I guess there's a way to put it.

Very tasty. I mean, they do it. Yeah. There you go. But I mean, what a, what a great story. You know, were they, uh, hundred years ago, they, they created the city and, uh, the lepers were being sent there to live there and because the, the priests, uh, what, grandfather, I guess,

couldn't abide by lepers living in the community with them. he kind of like purposefully fucked him up and made him crash into the rocks and that was that was such a great fucking horror set up, such a great story. The only thing I was a little disappointed was that there weren't more kills

and there wasn't a little bit more gore but I mean you can't have everything. Yeah, but I... Go ahead. Well, no, I was just simply going to say if you go by story and acting alone, this is a masterpiece. Yeah. And as far as the kills,

I like the way some of the kills were done. And, you know, there was people getting hooks, you know, in their jaws and stuff like that. Right. And I think you're right, Philip, it was tastefully done because, you know, you could see someone getting hooked in their jaw. I didn't see, I didn't have to see the jaw getting ripped out or, you know, that extra. And then, what was it, the fisherman on that boat? Mm-hmm. The way they described how they were killed was good enough for me.

Basically how they had all the signs of drowning. but weren't in the water. I thought that was really cool. Yeah, like when the doctor said, there's no doubt about it, this man's been in the water for a long time. Yeah. That was really creepy,

and that was cool, because they kind of like, I guess that the ghost just kind of, when they killed them, they sort of bestowed upon them the same qualities that they would have had from, you know, drowning and being under the water

for all that time and stuff. Yeah, it was like Pirates of the Caribbean. Oh, yes. It was like a good version of Pirates of the Caribbean. Ghosts. Pirate ghosts in the fog. But yeah, man, it was cool. It was really well done.

You know, probably not one of John Garberter's more famous movies, but definitely worth the watch. It's, I mean, is it on par with the thing? No, but it's still pretty good. and if you like John Carpenter stuff, this one won't disappoint you. Yeah. And is Jamie Lee Curtis like our scream queen on the show? Because we reviewed so many of her movies.

And we got another one. And we got two more coming up right around the corner. She's a hell of a scream queen. But is she also like a perpetual hitchhiker or what? Yeah. Like, learn your lesson, lady. Yeah, probably wasn't a very smart route to take. Well, I mean, she fucked Tom Atkins, but who doesn't, right?

Yeah, that's almost guaranteed you're getting in the car with Tom Atkins. You get in the car with Tom Atkins, you're getting laid. So she was, what did you guys think about the townspeople? Like that section toward the end there, were you guys like me where you kind of thought that they were going to come in there just start slaughtering all the people at that firework or that party? Yeah, I thought they were going to kill a lot more people than they actually did. I did too, man. But I guess there were like six original founders of the town, and they needed to get their six kills. So they had to keep it to that, but I think it would have been really fun if they'd made a sequel to this.

Where instead of just coming after the six, they like fucking go after the whole town. And they had a lot more to let gore to it and stuff. This is a movie that definitely, in my opinion, should have had one or more sequels. because I think this is a storyline they could have kept bringing up, you know? Well, and they could have... Even though it was tastefully done and I kind of liked the way that they did it,

I think it would have been a way better movie had they maybe thrown a little more gore that way. I agree. It made it more of a slasher kind of thing. Mm-hmm. Yeah, but it was good the way it was, man. I was really surprised because I did not remember enjoying this movie

as much as I did the first time I saw it, but looking at it from the perspective I'm in now and seeing all the people that were involved in it and what Carpenter pulled off, he's rapidly becoming one of my favorite directors of all time. Boy, yeah. You know? Is this top five John Carpenter?

Top five John Carpenter? Possibly. I mean, I don't like it more than, definitely don't like more than the thing. I actually may like it more than the original Halloween, dude. And you'll know when we talk later. They Live is probably my favorite John Carpenter movie. Oh, no, Escape from New York is.

You know what, if I were to look through his whole filmography, again, like we did with, didn't we do a show with Pedro where we went through all of his movies? Yeah. Really early in the podcast days. Oh, yeah. Years ago. But, yeah, the more I see of stuff he's done, the more I see of stuff he's done, the more the more I appreciate this guy.

And I got a... And I had totally forgotten about this one. And a lot of his stuff, I feel like, gets better upon rewatches. It really does, doesn't it? I don't really think I've rewatched the John Carpenter film and be like, well, I kind of don't really like this as much as I did.

You know, I really enjoy almost everything that I've watched or we've done for the show. Practical effects, man. They hold up. Well, I'll tell you what. Like I said, I wasn't expecting what I got here. I didn't think I was going to enjoy it as much as I did. I mean, I know you guys wanted to make tonight a shorter show,

because fill up with what you got with your wife and stuff like that. You guys want to go ahead and get into scores, and then we'll do a little bit more talk next week. All right. You went first, Lance? Yeah, yeah. I give it a nine. Oh, wow.

I give it a nine. I'm, yeah, I'm blown away. I did not expect this movie, so for me it's a good strong nine. Definitely, this could almost be a top ten, a top ten horror movie of all for me. Oh, wow. I really enjoyed it. I know a lot of people that have said that. I'm going to go eight.

That's good stuff, man. I like the cast. Of course, John Carpenter is fucking awesome. And really thinking about it, this might be top five John Carpenter, movies and he's got a lot of fucking great movies. Yeah, I, I, uh, I don't know if it was as good as the original Halloween. I'm not going to put it in top five John Carpenter, but I did really enjoy it. Um, and it's definitely worth watching.

This is a first watch for me. Um, I'm going to get a seven. Uh, I think it was really solid. It's just a really solid movie all, all the way around. Brambeau was amazing. Yeah, she was kind of like the glue that held the whole thing. together, wasn't she? Sexy as hell.

Yeah, and it made sense. I mean, her part was really good. Is it a little bit cheesy with, you know, her trying to get them to save her son? Yeah, of course it was. But, you know, we can allow a little, as long as that is cheesy as the Farmer Vincent movie, right? Yeah, that one was cheesy. All right, so we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. You know where to reach us.

Our email is The Horror Returns at Gmail. com. Rate us and review us. If not on iTunes, then somewhere. And send us an email. And I know next week we're doing films of the UK. Is that right, Brian?

Yes, sir. And we have a special guest? Yes, Duncan McLeish. What was it? The podcast Under the Stairs? Did I say that right? Podcast Under the Stairs, but I used to hear him on the Midnight Horror Show and he's shown up on psychosomatic with Darren,

and there's just all kinds of stuff that this dude gets around. I mean, this guy does so many fucking podcasts. And he's a baker, and he's a marathon runner, so you can't go wrong. He's a... He's a baker? Yeah, yeah, he makes... I know, I've seen his pictures. I thought it was just like something he did as a hobby,

but that is pretty fucking cool. Yeah, he's a man of many talents, man. Duncan McLeish, do you know what movies we're going to see next week, Brian? Yes, we are going to watch 1960s Village of the Damned. 1972's Raw Meat, also known as Deathline. I hope I can find that, man. I'm having a little bit of trouble. I think it's on YouTube.

It might be on YouTube. We'll talk later. Okay. And 2011's Kill List. Yes, that's a good one. All right, I'm excited about this one. Good names for movies. I like it.

All right, I got a few movies to watch because it's already Tuesday when we record this, so we're a little behind with the festivities and the events, but we haven't missed a week yet. So everybody out there, until the horror returns again, Gooo!