The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #114: UK Horror - Village Of The Damned (1960), Death Line (1972) & Kill List (2011) (Reupload)

Episode Date: April 29, 2024

This week, Duncan McLeish from The Podcast Under the Stairs, joins us to talk about 3 UK classics. Thanks for listening with us to these revisits to classic THR episodes! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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Welcome back one and all to The Horror Returns. I'm Lance. With me, as always, are my co-host, Philip and Brian. Tonight, we're joined by a very special guest, a gentleman who probably needs no introduction, listen to horror podcasts. I would tell you that he's horror podcast royalty, but he's so humble he would disagree. It's Duncan from Podcast Under the Stairs. How's it going, Duncan?

I'm honored to be here, guys. Thank you very much for the invite. This is going to be awesome. Well, in addition to your regular gig, I've probably heard you on at least a dozen podcasts, man. what are you up to and where can our listeners find your main show? So the main one is podcast under the stairs. It's been

going for about five years now. It's pretty much you can pick up on any podcatcher really but if you search podcasts under the stairs online or go to teaputscass.com then it should pop up. I was going to say it's a weekly show

but it's kind of now morphed into two episodes, one week, three episodes the other and that's just because there's just so much stuff to talk about in the moment. A lot of my other shows have kind of ramped back, which is good because all the other stuff's going to podcasts under the stairs at the moment.

The other show that I do on the regular is Duncan and Boe Come Correct, which is with Bo Ransdell from Legion Podcast Network. And that used to be movies. It's now kind of morphed into TV shows, so we've just finished up our look at West World Season 2 and we are kind of on

a little bit of a hiatus ahead. of the new Cohn Brothers TV show, which is coming to Netflix in the fall. I didn't even know about that. Yeah, we didn't know either. I think we're doing a commentary for Blood Simple. And we're like, the Cone Brothers must have a film coming out. Turns out they're doing an anthology show,

six parts, exclusive to Netflix. It's coming out this year. I was like, what the... You know, to me that seems like big news, but no, apparently it's kind of flying under the radar, so she'll be out before they're going. end of the year. Wow. On a different note, do you mind if I ask you a question, Duncan, who does your t-shirts for the podcast under the stairs? The designs or the actual t-shirts?

The design. There's a Scottish artist called Joshua Kelly. I'll hit you up with his details. Designs, most recently, he's been doing a lot of kind of steel book covers and stuff like that, but yeah I kind of head-hunted him because he did a kind of mock-up poster for one of the UK cinema brands for Neon Demon, which was like one of my favourite movies

like two years ago. And I thought when I heard he lived in Perth, I assumed that was Perth Australia instead of Perth, Scotland which makes no sense because Perth Scotland's much closer. Yeah, it turns out he's just up the road.

So bloody nice guy's stuff is phenomenal. He's like, he's really kind of they nailed that kind of comic book style. So I will drop you his line afterwards. Nice. Yeah. Definitely appreciate those, man. Yeah. While I was watching Friday the 13th, I meant to mention it last week when I talked about it. Dude, I would pay money for a Jason in a Jeep t-shirt. And I cannot find one on the internet anywhere. What the fuck? Yeah, man. Because they've got in the original Friday the 13th, I mean, I guess it's his mom.

but she's cruising around on an old Jeep, man. It's cool shit. It's like, why is there not like a cartoon Jason hanging out of a Jeep somewhere on a T-shirt? Well, listen, Phil, how's your wife doing, man? She's doing better. She's up walking around, and we're going to the doctor here next week,

but she's about halfway through her recovery. Still moving a little bit slow, but doing all her normal stuff. Brian you guys still you're getting any snow yet nope still good weather enjoying it while I can yeah and before we get into the show

I'm going to do a quick shout out to listener Patrick Patrick Lear he's he's kind of come down with some pneumonia guys so we got a pneumonia yeah hang in there and help him get through it I think you might have partied a little too hard with us last weekend in Chicago She's nizzle. That was a good party.

Yeah, we're thinking about you, Patrick. Get better, man. All right, so as always, we're going to start out with cool of the week. Duncan, you're our guest. Would you like the honor of going first and letting us know what's the coolest thing you've seen this week? I feel like that every week. Yeah, don't worry. I'm like, oh shit, did I watch anything?

Yeah, the thing is, I've seen a bit a million things, but then you get put in the spot, and it's just like, you have seen nothing. I think I'll tell you what I did start and I'm really into Netflix at the moment so like obsessed with just the sheer content on Netflix's coming out almost in a weekly basis

and we've just started that dirt tourist or dirt tourism Oh yeah? Yeah and that first episode had me like had my mind kind of blown by this New Zealand journalist who is going around the world to places that are deliberately

dangerous because this is a tourist trade thing. People travel to dangerous countries and do dangerous things and they started off in South America and there are Norco's trips in Colombia people that dress up like Pablo Escobar and take you about the place. It's the weirdest shit I've ever seen

and they get up as far as he gets up as far as Mexico and then there's a guy that there's a kind of fake interactive tour if you were trying to cross the American border. Okay. So, and it looked terrifying, like, pants shittingly terrifying.

I was like, you pay this guy to make you walk six hours with no food or water during the middle of the night trying to avoid people who are trying to rob you. It's all simulated, of course,

but I just thought this is the lens some people will go to it just kind of blows my mind. Between that and the other thing that I've watched that I'm absolutely in love with at the moment is sharp objects. I don't know if you guys have been checking that out. That show just does me right. It's that kind of Southern Gothic kind of slight shades of season one of true detective just kind of in the background. And it's doing a lot of groundwork at the moment and not a lot of explaining as far as episode three.

But that's my jam. You know what I mean? It's shot beautifully. It's HBO. a lot of money at a great cast and just this really foreboding kind of like nastiness that's just in the background

and every character is like horribly wounded in some capacity and I'm just like yeah that's the Scotsman in me loves that because I'm a fairly nearly nihilistic people at the best of times so yeah so I'm really digging that as well and in terms

of movies I've probably seen loads but nothing that is of a new variety that would blow anyone's mind I mean, I'm not going to get any shocks by saying I saw the thing this week and it was amazing, you know what I mean? So, yeah.

Oh, every time, man, every time, it's the first time I've watched this year. This year. Yeah, I watched the thing, like, honestly, about three times a year and have done every year since maybe like 2010.

And then, you know, like, watched as much as possible before. But, yeah, it's one of those, it's a pure good. It's a pure nihilistic good. Yeah. That movie. Well, Brian, I may need to check it out this week. Is Sharp Objects your cool of the week for the fourth week in a row, Brian? You know, I'm going to mention it.

This, I'm on episode four. Not quite as good as the first three. I kind of, I'm getting to that place where I need a little bit more explanation on on the, a little bit more on the characters of what's going on. It's still good. Still good. Definitely still recommend it. And also watching Castle Rock is still good.

How many episodes of Sharp Object? I think the, this weekend, the fifth episode will air. So, four right now. Yeah. I mean, but, you know, if you start getting halfway through the season and you're not answering any questions yet. But it's, it, the performances, though, can't win it. But it's going to be one of those that I'm going to watch

and I'm going to be mad at, but I'll probably watch it anyway. Who the fuck is this guy? It's a weird one because we were, like, when episode three finished, both myself and my wife are watching it at the moment. And I looked at her and I was like, that's just a really, really powerful episode. And then about 10 minutes later, I was like that, did we actually find out anything about the killings?

and she was like, not really. And I was like, hmm. It's like 50 minutes of, I mean, I love the character development. I really, really, you know, I'm in love with that. But yeah, I kind of feel like, because I think it's only episodes in total, isn't it?

Yeah. Yeah, so it's good. It must be a very busy back end. I've never read the book, so I don't know, I don't know what the book's like, how close it's sticking to it. I don't even know how it's performing in terms of viewership. I would hope it's doing quite well because it's HBO,

but everything else about it I love. Well, I constantly hear people talking about it, so it'd be pretty good. If the last three episodes are packed with, oh, okay, well, now you're finding out all this shit. It might be really awesome. Yeah. So, Brian, is your cool the Castle Rock then? Yeah, because I won't spoil any,

thing episode four ended with the character. I expect to kind of go off the deep end, but not how he did. It was kind of like, whoa. Really? Yes. Okay. And so definitely Castle Rock, Sharp Objects, my cool of the week, I recommend both shows. Nice.

I got to watch them both, man. I haven't started anything. My cool of the week is I rewatched Avengers Infinity War. Our sister-in-law, My sister-in-law came over to help out with Rose while she was recovering from the hospital. And she's never seen a single superhero movie. None of the Marvel shit, period. Like, how do you avoid that?

I picked a good one to start with, though. That's my favorite, I think, of all the Marvel films. Yeah, but if you start watching it from new eyes, it's really a big culmination of the past 10 years worth of movies, you know? and so I don't know if she just wasn't getting it or what but she I'm not joking got up in the middle of it and started doing laundry and shit how can you do that during infinity war I don't know man I've still to see infinity wars I sadly I'm not the biggest comic book fan I didn't grow up with any comic book

so the movies I was I think I'll get all the terminology wrong and this where I show how much of a Luddite I am. I think out of all of them, the ones that I enjoy are the ones that are least like the main movies. So I a big fan of Guardians of the Galaxy.

Love those two movies. I'm really like Ant Man because Ant Man was just like a crime keeper. So I kind of dug that one. But I'm not a big fan of like the Captain America movies. The Although I did quite like Ragnarok.

I thought Thor Ragnarok was all right. I don't really like Iron Man. Sorry. You didn't like the original Iron Man? I thought it was... You know, the one I liked was the one that everyone hated. I really liked that Shane Black third one. Because it was kind of fun and the dialogue was really well written.

And it was Shane Black dialogue. So, yeah, I tend to be the one that... I don't know. It's weird to describe. So I've been... But I've been purposely trying to watch them all because my wife went to see Infinite Wars and she's done nothing about

rave about it. She does like the movies. I cannot sit down and watch this movie until I've watched everything in between. I also saw the new Spider-Man movie and really liked that. Oh, yeah. But not for Spider-Man, because I really liked to Vulture.

I thought Michael Keaton's a brilliant actor, so I kind of dug that side of things. So yeah, I think I'm about too away from being able to watch Infinity War. I think I've still to watch I watched Civil War and didn't realize that was two parts so I think

I've still got the second part of that to watch and what's the other one? I've never seen Age of Ultron yet either so once I've watched those two. You're not missing much in my opinion that's what everyone keeps telling me. Everyone's like that yeah you can just skip that but the completest of me is like no you need to know everything

before you go into Infinity War so yeah it It's nice to watch, but it's, it's, it's kind of forgettable. So yeah, that's my, that's my start. If it makes you feel the better, I'm not much of a DC fan either, in fairness. And I've missed most of the kind of, I obviously went through Nolan's movies. He sees Dark Night trilogy, but I saw the new Superman movie and thought half of it was okay. I haven't seen Batman v. Superman, haven't seen Wonder Woman, haven't seen The Justice,

League probably won't go and see Aquaman. If it appears on Netflix, there is a chance I will check it out. Yeah. But they're not the sort of movies. I typically rush out to check. And there's nothing against them. They're huge movies and there's a lot of people like them. I just find my mind kind of drifting off because it's weird.

When it's done in horror movies, I'm cool with form. you know, absolutely 100% like, let's stick to the formula of the final girl. Totally happy with that. Seeing almost any other genre, though, I get bored. I find my attention kind of starting to drift. And there's a whole lot of those

movies that kind of, it's like, oh, it's the end of the world. Oh, I wonder if my superhero is going to, nope, he's fine. You know what I mean? It's that sort of thing. I don't know. And it's nothing against them. If you're into those sort of movies, I think if I was a comic book fan, this is probably the

best time ever to be a comic book fan. Oh, yeah, definitely. The amount of money and technology and the film, you know, the way they film these movies now, it is just like candy to the eyes. But if you're not, it just means that there's about four or five movies that everyone talks about every single year that you just don't know anything about it. Oh, wow, yeah. I was going to say, because I don't know how you've gotten away from spoilers for Infinity War, but it doesn't exactly follow the formula. yeah I know I know who's I know who's well I won't spoil anything on here

but I know what happens I'm also like fairly sure that a lot of that see I'm too cynical on them I hate myself for me I really hate myself right now like genuinely hate myself about these movies because any other genre I'd be fine with it but I know for the fact all the emotional payoff that they've done in that movie

most of it will be undone in the next movie absolutely well yeah that's just something you make if it's not, I'm going to die inside. Yeah, they're like, it's so powerful because they, you know, they do this to this character and this to this character, which, yeah, if that stayed through the next movie, I would totally agree.

But if they're just going to reverse some of that, then I'm like, you know, I'm just like, you're using it as a tool to manipulate fans. But then again, they do the same with horror movies. How many times have we heard the final chapter? And we're like, oh, wow, this is the last one. It's called storytelling, ladies and it has existed for millennia. How do you do it?

That's how you do. It's clever market, and I'm good to see it. I'm excited about it. But yeah, if they all really die, I'm going to be pissed. So is that your only cool of the week, Phil? Yeah, man, that's it. That's about all I've seen this week. Well, I've started watching the show again that it's in its third season.

And it's been out, I think it started again back at the end of June, but I'm just now starting to watch. Any of you guys watch Preacher? No, I've seen the first two seasons. I've not seen season three yet. Love it. I don't know how the fuck they get away with this shit. I gotta get back in it. Yeah, people that read the comics were like, oh, fuck it, it's not coming on HBO, they're not going to be able to get away with it. They're getting away with it. I mean,

you've got Tulip going out and talking face-to-face with God telling him she's about to kick his ass. You've got the son, like the son of Jesus and Mary. Magdalene is is like retarded and pisses all over everybody. It's just, it's so fucked up, but it's a great show,

and it really makes you think, because, you know, you've got different characters, and it may be God, it may not be God, there may be spirituality, it might just be people bullshitting you, but all the characters are really great.

How far are you into it, Duncan? So I've seen as far as, the first two seasons, and season three has started up, it is one of the few shows where, well, it's becoming more common now, that it kind of follows the American release.

So it's on Amazon Prime in the UK, and the episodes draw weekly. So, but we haven't because we're still, we're juggling about four or five shows at the moment, what we'll tend to do with preachers, we wait for it to finish and then kind of binge watch through it, like in a week.

Because it's one of those, it's a very bingeable show. And, because every episode. I love the style of that and I'm with you on that. I never read the comics. Bazz on my show is a massive preacher fan. Absolutely loves it. He read all the comic books. He's really into it.

But there's a darkness in that show that I'm very much like yourself. I'll answer that when I watch, I'm like, I don't know who's financing this. I don't know how this has managed to go so long. I know this is the final season but what they've

done, like what they've got away with putting this on like a VOD over here and stuff is it's kind of amazing like genuinely like I don't think this would have existed for as long had it been on a network and I just don't think

you know they would have been able to I think they maybe we'd had to make some concessions and tone it down but yeah oh it's it's brilliant brilliantly casted the stories are it's a combination of what the fuck and

just write out you all kind of goofy, giffiness, like there's a really goofy sense of humor about it and a really dark, mean-spirited streak that runs through that show as well. All at the same time. Yeah, it's brilliant. I love it. I think it's great. Yeah, it's unlike anything else.

Brian, you've started it, right? Preacher? Yeah. Yeah, I've only seen the first season. Okay. Yeah, it gets better. They get to New Orleans in the second season. Oh.

And they actually find God, or do they? in New Orleans Yeah In a dog costume I don't know about all that Have you checked it out Phil? No man I watched like

Most of the way through the first season And I don't know I just kind of stopped watching it I think I just Well not really I just had too much other shit going on And I never got back to it But uh

I really I really need to Because I did like it Yeah well it's definitely my cool of the week Brian we got any headlines Uh this time man The upcoming season, the apocalypse season. Right.

Which makes sense if it's the murder house coven crossover. Yeah. She played a couple big characters, or at least one from each season, so that's pretty big. And also with that news came that American Horror Story is renewed for season 9 and 10. Really? Well, it's their money maker. Yeah. And the only other thing that I got on here, because I didn't want to rehash anything we've already talked about, is Rebecca Ferguson has been cast in Mike Flanagan's Doctor Sleep movie.

Oh. And if people are familiar Rebecca Ferguson, she was just recently in the Mission Impossible movies. Oh, okay. So, Duncan, have you read the Dr. Sleep book? I have not I've got anyone who listens to my show knows of that

I used to be a huge Stephen King fan when I was like a kid I got a massive bag full of books and about 1990 for

three 94 and started like binge reading I'd come right off like reading tons of sci-fi stuff I was a big reader

as a kid like from like a young age just loads of books and and moved into Stephen King until it was about 16 and then kind of jumped over to Clyde Barker which, you know, makes sense

because like, you know, adolescent and sexuality, Clyde Barker, obviously. He swung into that. And I tried to get back into King a couple of times, but he was in that kind of rough patch where he was writing books like The Cell, which is, I've never seen the movie,

but the book was pretty bad. So I kind of like stemmed off it, and then I heard he had done it. and I was quite excited to check it out and for whatever reason I've just slept on it, no pun intended I will get around to it for sure because I want to read it before the movie comes out

I'm just, I'm interested to see how it's going to fit because, you know, is it going to be in relation to the world that Kubrick built or is it going to be in relation to the world that Kings built because you know because, you know, Kubrick's book does not finish the same way at all.

No, that particular character that didn't make it through Kubrick's, he's actually a pretty big part of the first couple of chapters of the book. Oh, really? Yeah, so if they follow the book exactly, it's going to obviously follow King's Vision, which I think he went way out of his way to make sure that particular character was in the book. Yeah, I believe Ewan McGregor has said that it's going to be more faithful to the book. I think he came out recently and said that.

I'm all for that. Yeah, we got some time. It's not a bad book. Yeah, you got some time. The movie is scheduled for a January 24th, 2020 released. January? Well, that's interesting. Yes.

2020, though. It's a ways away. Yeah. January historically is the graveyard for horror movies, it's where you're not confident in, which is weird considering the Stephen King at the moment is hot shit. I mean, like really...

At this moment, I mean, there are very few movies that have me as excited as the upcoming Pet Cemetery remake. I think every bit of news I hear about that just literally makes me like giddy like a schoolgirl. I think the cast in Simmons...

I was wondering how you were going to finish that city. I was trying to think about it I was going to do it but yeah all the casting news for that has been phenomenal that I think they picked the best two directors

they could have to do that and it's a movie which I'm not as precious about for a Stephen King remake you know what I mean in terms of what they're going to do with that I think it's a great idea so between that

there's about five or six other titles and the works the stuff that's happening on TV whether it's you know the adaptations for Castle Rock, the fact that even as of Mr. Mercedes is on a season two just now, and even though I can't

get it in the UK, I hear nothing but great things about it. Mr. Mercedes? It's on some channel that doesn't exist in the UK. Direct TV. I have it here. You've read the books, then I take it. Yes. Yeah, yeah.

Duncan, the first season, if you're a purist, I had multiple orgasms as a book purist because I think it was 10 episodes. It followed the book almost exactly to the tea. They almost didn't, they didn't vary from the book at all. It was like a perfect recreation of the first book, Duncan.

Oh, that makes me a happy man. They had me like in for life when they mentioned Brendan Gleason was in it, because I think Brendan Gleason's me. He's perfect. Yeah, one of the best actors around. So I couldn't wait to check out. But yeah, it's not showing. I think I can, I think realistically I probably can.

buy it or I could at least import it, but because it plays, whatever the station is it plays in the States, I don't think the rights have been acquired to distribute in the UK yet. Which is not uncommon, which is not uncommon. There's quite a few shows

that do that, and then eventually on Amazon will pick it up, maybe a year, two years down the line or a Netflix or something in the UK will pick these things up. But yeah, it does kind of crush me because it's one of the more modern King books I have read that I really enjoyed

then the casting news and then I heard it got renewed for a second season so the excitement levels are high but it's almost as a weird one I think they'll sort it out for sure over here but yeah with that you would just expect with it being Stephen King

with it being you know even you and McGregor being in that movie's a big pull and then the fact it's the sequel to maybe arguably one of the more famous King works January is a weird date to release that. So I would not be surprised if that gets moved.

Well, yeah. I mean, it works so good for a year and a half away. Oh, yeah. Split did well. It came out in January, and I think that's why they're doing glass in January. Mm-hmm. I guess it remains to be seen, right?

Yeah. But yeah, you're right. I wouldn't be too surprised if they changed the date. Well, then again, it is a pet cemetery in January. is sort of a cemetery, right? Aye, aye, aye. Moving on? On that note, that's all the news.

Slow news week. All right. Well, listen, Duncan, I was, did you see my picture? Can you see my picture with Freddie Kruger on the Skype there? I can indeed. It's cool as fuck.

Yeah, that was at a comic or a horror and comic convention that took place concurrently with a progressive rock music festival that was actually Snowdonia Wales

is where that picture was taken Oh wow Yeah And so I've done the UK travel I did London And then I went up to Edinburgh And then of course

Snowdonia So I think I saw it some trailer parks Somewhere up there You guys do have trailer parks Right Duncan Yeah they're Yeah they're kind of less American-style

than a bit more in the UK they're kind of classed as caravan parks yeah like Brad Pitt and Snatch yes yes to caravan for me ma alright

in that case let's take a little trip we're going to talk about blood clots a new horror anthology star in Brooks Smith Evan Arnold and Kristen Slaysman what did you guys think about blood clots. I love an anthology.

It definitely looked low budget. That's for sure. Who's releasing this? Do you know? Not really sure. This kind of just dropped here a few days ago, actually. Okay. And it's actually available now on VOD from what I'm reading.

Oh, really? Well, I tried to look it up on IMDB, and the only thing that came up with something called She Whose Blood is Clotting in My Underwear. I don't think that's a... Yeah. I guess a totally different movie. Duncan, what did you think about the... Did you get a chance to check it out?

I did, yeah, yeah. I'll not be rushing... I'll not be rushing to check it out, but I do, like, in October every year, like when people are doing their, you know, kind of 31 of October. Every year what I do is I put it with movies that I've come out in the year that I do.

It's a good way of making sure that I, you know, rimmed off a lot of titles for the end of the year when I make my top 20 list. So if it is available on Amazon in October, it might meet the list just as a way to fill it out. I thought it looked interesting. Right?

I thought it looked interesting. Yeah, I don't know. Like sometimes these things, they don't come across great in trailers, and they kind of look cheap and a wee bit nasty, and then you watch them, and you realize that they're just a ton of fun, and that gets you through. You can overlook some of the other stuff,

because, you know, everyone's having a blast, and you're having a blast watching it, and sometimes that doesn't always come through well in a trailer. The trailer was a bit, hmm, literally, honestly, when I finished, I was like, hmm, not too sure if I'll be rushing to check, that out. But yeah, I like the anthology

format. Even if all I get out of an anthology is one good short, then it's, yeah, it's worth watching for that. Yeah. Because even if you don't like it, you know, wait five minutes and you'll see the next one. Mm-hmm. You just got to stick it out. Well, Brian, you're excited about it, right?

Uh, not as much as you probably thought I was going to be. I am curious about this kill scene that they're advertising in the trailer. Right. One of the best kill scene.

Yeah. So that probably caught my interest more than the trailer. Probably someone who overdoses on opioids or something. It's like this big buildup. Somebody eats a lot of pills and falls asleep. Oh, yeah. They always put that shit in the trailers, and you know it's not going to be as average.

But you're still going to go watch it and be mad about it, but you still paid money for it. So blood clots available now on VOD. And our final trailer we're going to talk about is Puppet Master the littlest right. Now you're talking my language. Starring. Starring Thomas Lennon, Udo Kier, and Barbara Crampton, directed by Sunny Lenton. Laguna and Tommy Wickland. What did you guys think?

Duncan? Well, I'm in the enviable position that I've seen it. Oh. Yeah, I got a screener two weeks ago, and I've got an episode covering it coming out. I'm under embargo to talk about it officially, like in a review sense. I will tell you that I think it's probably the best puppet master movie

by a country mail and it's the most fun it's the most fun I've had watching a movie this year I think it's I think it is brilliant it's written by this movie is written by Craig Arzala the guy who did bone Tomahawk

and Brulets Hill 99 he's the guy that wrote it so the dialogue is great the practical effects are brilliant and it's just fun it's like a really it's a full moon movie

it's Charles Band movie but just if he was starting his company right now but had all the same kind of ethos and work ethic of the stuff he was putting

out in the 80s that's what it's like you're gonna love it I can't imagine I'm still too like from all the reviews that I've read of people that have seen it

I've still to find one that didn't like it but I challenge any kind of horror fan worthy salt that grew up watching 80s horror that will not have have you ball what this movie is.

It's a ton of fun. Oh, I can't wait. I can't wait. What's the release date, Brian? VOD August 17. Excellent. Philip, I was excited? Yeah, man, I am now. I was kind of excited for it after watching the trailer. I'm not a huge puppet master fan. I don't know that I've seen all the movies.

If I did, I've forgotten 90% of it. But, yeah, man, this one, It looks like it's fun. I'm digging it. I'll definitely watch this one. Cool. All right. I think we're all on board.

Yep, Puppetmaster. Everybody look for it on VOD, August 17. Any more trailers? Nope. That is our final trailer. Maxis, Phillip. We should have a little backlog on the feedback, I think, since we didn't cover it last week. Yeah, we got a little bit doubled up.

Listener feedback. You may open that thing up and see a one-star review one day. Anything's possible. So, here what you say. So he says, so Doninelli, he says, this is one of the better podcasts in the style. The three hosts are hilarious

and have developed such a great chemistry together that their segments are a blast to listen to as they talk and joke about recent watches, just release trailers, and more. The mix of films covered in the show from big releases and an older film of the same style, or a more recent mainstream pop culture smashes is fun and the conversation is lively,

fun and laid back like a group of friends discussing films with a few beers, mostly because that's what we do. An enjoyable and highly worthwhile show to check out. Wow. Wow, and that's from Don at the Horror Mafia, right? Yeah, man. Shout out to the Horror Mafia. We've been on their show a couple of times.

I think they've guessed it on ours a couple times. It's been a lot of fun. Duncan, that's the nicest man in horror podcasting, Don there. You're familiar with the horror mafia, right? Yeah, yeah, Dawn. I do a kind of a listener movie club thing once a month, and Don has submitted a review every single month for the past. The full time it's been running,

which is almost a year. He always submits our review. He always posts our show when we drop it. He always leaves feedback, comments, gets involved with it. He genuinely one of the nicest people I have met through horror podcast. And just, I'd like, he's a pure good. If a poor good could be a human being, that's Donna Nelly. Yeah.

Awesome. I'll agree with you. Yep, Don, send me your information. I got a box of Jason Gorehe's Funko cereal for you. He may not want that. Are they in little jeeps? It may be nasty. No, no, no jeeps.

I've got his address. I'll get it to you, man. All right, cool. Let's see. And we've got B. Germain. Germain. Germain. We all fucked up his name, man.

God damn Australian. Watching Mandy. Just about to watch my mom. most anticipated film of the Melbourne International Film Festival. I can't contain my excitement right now. I need my cage rage fix. Be jealous. Regarding the upcoming Joker movie, Thomas Mariani says you were never really here,

which is what this still is from. I guess it's the still that we showed on Facebook. Feels like it's one ending change away from becoming a Joker origin movie already. hopefully they actually take the risk of going similarly brutal uh i think that they might i'm excited about it uh then marietta rushing says this is not good for little old ladies the joker announcement or what i guess i don't know whatever works whatever whatever whatever floats your boat is there something

going on in that movie that i don't know man they're just going to drop dead. Oh my god. It's the village of the damned. Stephen Loblad says, holy shit, a positive remark by Lance on the Walking Dead. I do. I have plenty

of positive Walking Dead remarks. He says, I'm excited for the new season as well. The trailer was awesome. Yes, it was. Duncan, you watch Walking Dead at all? I tapped out. I did. Yeah. I

tapped it about the thing is I stuck with that show a lot longer than I expected to I tapped out just after I mean I suppose

we could do you do spoilers for a year and a half ago absolutely yeah we're in the full last season talk so oh that's cool

like as soon as they killed Glenn and I'm not I'm not saying I was the biggest Glenn fan and that was like you have crossed a line how to you know

when they kill Glenn and then the following episode it just kind of went back to you know quite a lot of the character development stuff that we're doing you know kind of week and week out sort of thing I said I'm going to give this a couple of weeks and if I feel the urge to go back to it I will

and I haven't and yeah the thing about the Walking Dead is every trailer they put out for a new season always has me like sitting there going oh need to watch us need to watch this and I just I don't have the time now. I'm so fussy we want to watch now. But I'm glad it's, I mean, obviously there's going to be big changes this season. I think it's a shorter season as well I'd heard. Is that right?

Hadn't heard that. Well, I'm not mad at it. At least I'll get some shit done. But yeah, I mean, without the Walking Dead, the majority of what I watch on TV, horror-wise would not exist. That show literally has paved the way for everything. That's true. Yeah, regardless of a watcher or not, you've got to respect the fact that it's what season eight or nine that's on, which is incredible for a horror show. There ain't many that can do that. No doubt.

Well, he's decided for the new season as well, and he says the trailer was awesome. I kind of am to. I don't know. Low expectation. hopefully I'll be surprised let's see regarding the new Sabrina show for Netflix Mike Batchelor says it's got potential Sabrina like

the teenage witch yep yes sir they are doing a darker take I believe for the new Netflix series interesting all right yeah I'll check it out

Darren Wilson says since you guys often talk about the declining of movie pass. Oh, this should be fun. Don't know if you've heard the rumors. A source familiar with the matter told Business Insider that during

an all-hands meeting on Monday, MoviePass CEO Mitch Lowe said the app would not make Christopher Robin and the Meg the two major releases hitting theaters in the next two weeks available to subscribers. He implied that the practice of not

offering tickets to major movies would continue for the foreseeable future. Ooh, I was hoping that was going in a different direction. Uh-oh. Yeah, I canceled mine too, man. I think everyone has pretty much. Yeah, I was like... I have mine through.

It's paid through October 17th, and if they don't make some big changes, that's going to be it. Oh, yeah. I think they've made enough big changes. Yeah. Oh, I'm in the positive direction. No, they're not.

They can't. It's not sustainable. Right. It was a not sustainable business model to begin with. Going to explain to me what, because I hear a lot of Americans talk about it. I don't know what it is. What's movie pass? You pay 10 bucks a month, and they let you go see a movie every day.

Just you pick a movie, you go see it, they pay for it. All right. Yeah. 10 bucks a month? It was a great deal for several months. Yeah, it was ridiculous. I mean, a ticket to a movie cost 10 bucks. They could have charged 30 bucks a month, easy.

Yeah, they used to charge 40, and then this new guy bought it and charged 10, and he thought that all the theaters were going to butter it up and, like, support him because they were going to be so happy to have more butts in seats, Duncan. And, of course, we all know they make their money at the concessions. Yeah, yeah. And quite frankly, he did a lot of good,

or these folks did a lot of good for the theaters, because theater going was up 10%. this year. And you know, a lot of those people are bringing people with them that aren't on the plan. Yeah. You know a lot of them are buying popcorn and sodas and everything. So they got a raw deal because the theaters didn't play ball, but now the theaters are doing their own thing. Like AMC has one now for 20 bucks where you can see three movies a week, but it has to be in an AMC theater. Ah, yeah. You know, you've got to have that frontrunner, but unfortunately the frontrunner got screwed on this one. Yeah.

Well, Adam Bunch says all mission showings are blocked. Yes. Which is the problem you had, Brian, right? So is Christopher Robin. Yeah. And the Mag. And the Meg. You're fucking kidding me. Are you serious? And the Meg. From what I

hear, this is just, they've only said Christopher Robinson and the Meg in the upcoming weeks, but from what I understand, this is going to be every week. Whatever major release is going to be out that weekend. In other words, everything we see for the podcast. Right.

Yeah, they're not going to, you're not going to be able to see a first-run show on opening weekend. It was good while it lasted. And I believe it will go from 9.95 to 1495 here. Oh, and they're upping the price. That sounds great. Lowering the film selection and upping the price is not a good business formula. Yeah, no, that's not going to work out well. Under, under, like, reasons that you quit, I just put, I think it's pretty obvious.

Ryan Steven says Yeah it was nice while it lasted But I'm also done I did get more than enough value Out of the 80 bucks I paid Time to switch to AMC's program Yeah Look I enjoyed the wave while it was there

Yep me too Got my money's worth for sure No complaints Uh see Beed I'm not I'm not Everybody B

says, oh man, Munchy. I used to watch that film as a kid. Have you seen that one, Duncan? Or does that ring about Munchy? The name rings about, but I can't picture it. I'm going to Google the front cover, and I bet you. I bet you'll recognize it, I'm sure.

I know I've never seen that one. I'd totally watch it, though. Sounds awesome. Wasn't Michael J. Fox in that, or am I totally, like, tripping? I think I have a false memory. Mandela effect memory or something. Yeah, you might have just made your own casting on that one. I don't think he was in that one.

Because of Back to the Future. Oh, yeah, I've totally seen that movie. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah, it's Wernorski, that's why. All right. It's Jim Wernorski, yeah. Yeah, it's getting a Blu-ray release, so.

That's getting a Blu-Ree release. Yeah. There you go. I believe it's going to... Jennifer will have you in it. Yeah, I believe it's going to be a double Blu-ray. I think the sequel, you get the sequel with. too. There was a sequel.

That's a bad deal. Artie Johnson was in it, and Dom Deloese. This is a big, big release. Don Deloese. Can we do a remake? That's funny. Oh, no. I got a great idea, guys. Michael J. Fox in the remake.

Yes? No. I don't know if he's at any way. I don't think he's available. It got really quiet too soon. He was like, Yeah, Blu-ray release from Shout Factory Munchies and Munchy.

This was the sequel. Okay. So basically a lot of pot smokers are making movies. Okay. Well, ain't that the way it works? I guess so, yeah. Ryan Steven says, I'm watching Ghost Stories from 2017 today.

About 30 minutes in, and it's very good so far. Nice. Stories? Is that, that's the anthology one, right? Yeah, with Martin Freeman, I believe. Yeah, that's the one, yeah. Okay. How have I not heard of this?

We reviewed the trailer. I don't fucking remember it. It's good. I really like to, I know there's a lot of people that are not on board with the end of the movie. But to me, it had very much reminded me of like an amicus anthology, which is what is playing to its brush. it was a play first and the guy who

wrote the play adapted it for the movie and I think it stays pretty close to that and it's about a kind of a paranormal skeptic who is challenged to solve three cases each more

insidious than the one before I thought it was I don't think it was the greatest horror movie of all time. Like I think some of the trailers kind of put it to be on the poster. But it's totally different. It talks back to an older style

of kind of anthologies in the UK, which I kind of dig. So we posted a picture of the coosies and the T-shirts that arrived last week. Megan Gomez says Need Me One. Well, for Ivan and I. Where can we get them? We don't have a store, huh? Where do we

get them? Leave an iTunes review. Leave an iTunes review. We need a store. Yeah. They're pretty cool t-shirts, man. We'll worry about that later. We're not as big as podcast under the stairs yet, so maybe one day. Yeah, we'll get there.

Well, shit, leave an iTunes review. Hooks up, we'll hook you up. We're going to need a lot more t-shirts. Patrick Lear says, damn, I might need to upgrade my t-shirt. Lars Christian Detlifson from Denmark. Yes. Says. our man lars

says very cool need want must have I'm gonna send him a coozy for sure yeah well damn dude maybe we should set up a little online store how bad can that be we'll play it by ear

yeah regarding trick or treat the Blu-ray Jaron Wilson Hey Duncan have you seen that trick or treat the one I can't remember who directed it

but he's coming out with a new Godzilla movie Oh yeah, Michael Dorety? Yes, yeah. The original Trick or Tree. Did you like that one? I love that movie, and I told, was it a Scream Factory's put now? Is that right? Yeah. Yep. Yes, I will be buying that. That's a cool company. I like what Screen Factory has done. Darren Wilson says he already pre-ordered this one. It's rad as fuck on its own anyway, but... That's Darren for you, right, right, Duncan?

Yeah, yeah, they're like, rad. He's rad. He is rad to the bone. I don't know if you know that. I was thinking that. I really love that. Rad as fuck. I'm using that from now on.

But he said he can't pass up his stuff from the hometown director. Patrick Lear says, not the trick-or-treat movie I was looking for. He's thinking of the heavy metal one. Oh, okay. Stephen Loblad posted Castle Rock is good Pennywise is creepy as fuck My bet is he's Satan or something like that

I'm listening to you guys right now And what if Penny what if he is Pennywise in disguise Uh huh Steven get with the program dude What happens? What if he gets? I mean he's definitely He is definitely something. He is some kind of evil

that we don't, we haven't been, uh, we don't have enough on his back story, but if he turns out to actually be Pennywise, I mean, this isn't Stephen King's universe. Yeah. My mind will explode. The alien

comes and like, inhabits his body. Uh, Kevin Nez, of course, says, hell of good. Uh, regarding Motel Hill. You guys are smoking.

This classic is horror gold. Nine out of ten. Horgold. Was that Nes also? Yes, it was. I think he's digging for gold in his novels on this one. That's got to be a Ness thing. Who's anybody else?

That movie sucked. Did you like that movie, Duncan? It does not hold up. I have four memories of it from back in the VHS days. But that movie, I love movies being put on Blu-ray because you get to, you know, on your transfer, you get to put the missed part of your collection or the rest. But sometimes it forces you to re-watch things

and nostalgia as a motherfucker. Because when you sit back and watch them through, you're like, this is not how I remember this movie going. Yeah. Aye, aye, aye. It was all kinds of crazy. Didn't we get photoshopped into the movie? Somebody sent that picture.

That was... What? All right. That's awesome. That was a cool picture. Yeah, Philip, you look. extra happy to become some sausage.

Well, you got to take life as it gives it to you. Thanks for the picture. I didn't see it. I'm going to go look at it. I'm going to send it to you. All right. Hey, Duncan, that's Darren again. He's our number one guy, man.

This dude is so fucking cool, isn't he? I don't, I genuinely don't know how he, has the time to do the amount of photoshopping that it does, because I've been photoshopped on everything for almost every show that I've ever been on, there's a Photoshop of me somewhere out there, and some of them are safe for work. Most of them are not safe for work. My head's been put on places that I don't know if I'm comfortable with it, but he's done it anyway. Yeah, I've got a lot of time for Darren. I think he's kind of, once again, we're in a great time just now where there's a phenomenal

kind of fraternity of horror podcasters and some of the new ones that have come up are just put that photograph is amazing that one that you just sent Brian is phenomenal yeah he's such a cool dude and he shows

brilliant as well the psychosemantic podcast is as well worth your time I've been on that a few times yeah I've heard you that's a great podcast man we don't get political We made a conscious decision not to get political on this one, but nothing's forbidden on that one. Yeah. Well, that made my fucking day.

That was awesome. That's it for listening to feedback this week. Thanks to everybody who reaches out to us. We love your feedback and ideas. You can always reach us at the horror returns at gmail.com. That's probably the simplest, easiest way to get there. Or you can check us out on any of the other social medias. Join our Facebook group.

It's obviously a lot of fun. They just sent me the Photoshop picture, and it's great. And don't forget, we're still running the contest. So be sure to give us a five-star rating on iTunes, and we'll send you, what is it, a shirt or a coozy or both? I'm fixing to get on iTunes. Can I leave myself for review? Do I count?

Yeah, of course. They're cool-ass shirts, man. Go check them out. Village of the Damned, raw meat, aka Deathline, and also Kill List. So we'll start with a 1960 movie,

Village of the Damned. A little bit of trivia is directed by Wolf Rilla, also known for Roadhouse Girl. And he directed, apparently, an X-rated film called Secrets of a Door-to-Dore salesman. What? That's weird.

Yeah, it looked pretty weird. Of course, you know, X-rated back then was a little different from X-rated. I mean, for crying out loud, Clockwork Orange was rated X when it first came out, you know? Clockwork Orange was banned in the UK. Yeah, I wouldn't be too surprised if Door-to-Dore salesman was too, Duncan. Yeah, they banned it from the UK when it played... In fact, Kubrick asked for it. Kubrick supported its banning in the UK because there were...

Yeah, I think there was two violent rapes that happened in about a week after that movie came out in the UK. So they were toying with the idea and Kubrick got behind it 100%. And it wasn't actually unband in the UK until after Kubrick died. So that would have been, what, 2000-ish? It remained on the band list, yeah. Wow. Okay. Well, the writers of this film were Sterling Siliphant, Wolf Rilla, and Ronald Kinnach. And the bit...

Sound like rappers. A little bit of trivia here. The blonde wigs, the children wear had a built-in dome to give the impression. They had a larger than normal cranium size. Oh. That makes sense. More movie magic from 1960 here. The eerie effect of the children's glowing eyes was created by matting a negative.

image of their eyes over their pupils when they use their powers. And this was a weird one. The baby children were all played by Kim Clark Champness, who as an adult would become a very popular Canadian music journalist and television

personality, especially familiar as one of the original Much Music VJs in Canada. Oh. So, interesting. All right, Village of the Damned, Duncan, our guest, would you like to go first

yeah so this is this this is a movie I'd not seen in a while like a long long time I'm more familiar with the Carpenter remake yeah which is one of my least favorite coperners

and Carpenter loves this movie like it's weird that of the remakes that Carpenter has done he picked the movies that scarred him as a child so when I did the thing he obviously talks about it came from outer space and how that you're not upset at him and

Village of the Damned which is not what you would necessarily associate with Carpenter or same idea, an awful experience as a kid watching it I mean it plays out it plays it like a Twilight Zone episode if I'm honest and that was the vibe I got through it

particularly on this watch it's weird I misremembered how this movie finished I had the I keep using the word nihilistic but I had this more nealistic approach of the kids like ended up you know kind of taking over and stuff

and that's not how the movie finishes at all it was pretty nihilistic to the kids well yeah yeah well but then you have that weird thing I thought that was a pretty big chance they took with that ending actually yeah but then like at the end their eyes all float off somewhere as if they're going to go somewhere else

you know what I mean? Yeah, but then they talk about how Earlier on in the movie they talk about how this has already happened several times before in other parts of the world So I don't know if it's the same It's the same entities That are doing it each time

And each time they're getting slightly better And further along I mean one of the more kind of harrowing lines of the whole movie is when they talk about the previous like kind of failed attempts for this to happen and they talk about

specifically the Eskimo community and it's very blasphy. I mean, this film is of its time. This is like 60s UK, like 1960s UK, which means that things are very un-PC like the husband slaps a wife in the face to calm her down

which is, you know, you just don't do that in movies. She's hysterical too, that or a dildo. Yeah. But it's like, the way everyone talks there, way everyone acts is just, it's of an era, but it's

painfully aged, but they talk about like, how, because the kids are blonde hair, and pale skin. And the parents have dark hair. Yeah, and the Eskimo community, well, you know, you know, they got rid of them. And I'm like, well, you know,

that's a sweeping generalisation that you would expect from a country which colonised half the world. You know what I mean? Just thought of kind of narrow British-minded view on things. Yeah, I mean, I imagine when this movie came out, it terrified people. You know, I absolutely had them shaking in their shoes. To me, I love the idea of malicious kids.

It's a trope that's been used forever and it should continue to be used forever. Because there is always that fear parents have of their kids replacing them or killing them. And, you know, it's a real psychological condition. And it plays into that. And it does it really, really well, even though, like I say, the movie itself is only an hour and 20 long. And even though they are trying to ramp up the pace in it quite a bit, it does drag a bit. It was certain bits where it was like, can we just get things moving? I mean, I think it's about half an hour in the movie before the babies arrive.

And then they're kind of, you know, they can talk and walk and all the rest of about the 50 minute mark. And then we really only have half an hour to wrap this story up. up. We're getting there. Come on. Let's tell the story here, right? Yeah. Yeah. So I think, I mean, overall, what you have is you have a movie where a town is, a town at first becomes, I want to say cursed, but there's a weird effect. Everyone's knocked out. Anyone that gets close to town also is knocked out. When everyone wakes up, all the women are pregnant. They've all fallen pregnant at exactly the same time. They all

give birth far too early to kids that grow up far too quick. And these kids all kind of look the same and appear to be able to communicate telepathically and they may be otherworldly. And like I say, it plays it very much like a kind of early Twilight Zone episode. And probably I think in that format and with that time frame it would work a bit better. I think it's just a bit lengthy for what they're trying to do overall. Well, fair enough. Fair enough. I want to go next if you guys don't mind because I have a quite different impression of it. This was a first watch for me. Oh, wow.

I was fully expecting to just laugh my ass off at this. I thought it was going to be horrible. I thought it was going to be cheesy. In fact, there was even a mystery science theater 3,000 version of it that I thought about downloading. I fucking love this movie. I really did. I really enjoyed it.

I thought it was very well-paced from beginning to end. I didn't think there was a wasted moment in it. I loved the one hour and 17-minute, runtime. I loved the setup because I wasn't expecting it. I didn't know what to expect, guys. I thought this was going to start with a bunch of little creepy kids from

the beginning of it. I like the way they kind of built it up and I thought they took some chances. There were a couple of really brutal scenes in here I thought for 1960, especially with putting children in harm's way and things like that. And I thought the ending was really creepy. And then they did

to bring the Cold War into it a little bit. They talked about some of the kids that popped up in Russia and were building a bomb and stuff like that. This was not what I expected. I enjoyed it. Nice. Yeah. You know, there's something kind of magical about those black and white movies from the early 60s.

It's like you get this high definition black and white almost, you know? I don't know. It's just got a really cool look to it. And especially for this movie where there's these little, you know, blonde-haired kids, I think it does it some justice. I like that it's in black and white. It gives it a little extra. As far as the story goes, you know, they got pregnant. So I'm trying to figure out what the hell's going on the whole time because everybody gets knocked out.

And then they wake up and they're all pregnant. And I'm thinking, you know, I've ever had that fantasy when you're like 16? or so that you could like freeze time and fuck all the bitches you wanted to that's what happened that's what I was like that's it I got it figured out there's some fucking weird mad scientist that couldn't get late in high school

and he row hitting all that whole fucking town and then oh my god and then the babies start growing up a little extra fast and and I was like okay definitely aliens and they got all this hive mind and killing people with their psychic power shit going on.

I thought it was kind of cool, man, for a 1960 movie. It's a little dated, obviously, because it's from 1960. But, I mean, you're coming off of not too far removed from World War II where the Germans wanted this blonde-haired, blue-eyed race, right? And now you've got these blonde-haired, blue-eyed, creepy-looking, looking. dumb and dumber haircut kids and and you got to be worried about them

man they're going to take shit over I like the way that they ended it I thought it was cool that they went extraterrestrial with it and a little more sci-fi I always love those I was pleasantly surprised man I liked it

yeah I'm with there with you guys I really enjoyed this I haven't seen it in a while I've probably seen the remake a little bit more. Yeah. Which I think that's probably why I like this one a little bit more because the character of, what was his name? David, the main kid, very different in the remake, how his character played out. Yeah.

So I think the way his character played out in the original kind of drew me more to the story. And overall, I had a lot of fun watching this one. I was into it from when the phenomenon happened. and they were trying to get people to cross into the, I guess they had it marked off where the line was. You know, the guy went in there with his gas mask and he was still affected by what was going on. And the dumb ass sent the plane in.

He's like, get low. But when you feel weird, pull up. Yes, that was a, you knew that was going to go bad immediately. Fucking suicide bombers, which you just sent in. But, you know, I don't, I don't think I could say anything more than what you

said Lance, I had a great time watching this, re-watching it actually. A lot more than I thought I was going to. All right, cool. You guys ready for scores? Yeah. All right, Duncan, we go

score 1 to 10 and you can do 0.25, 0.5, you know, whatever is most specific to what you would consider this film. I would give this one probably 6.5. That's pretty good.

good. So it's two-thirds good. Yeah, yeah, like I see, I think that's strong. Yeah, the issues that I have with are more in terms of how it's aged and how it's dated. And like I say, I've seen it a few times and coming back to this time, I felt there was maybe a bit more dead air than maybe you guys thought there was.

But yeah, it's not like, I mean, it's a well-acted, well-written and unique concept movie. and you very, as Phil was saying, I totally agree. It pretty much plays into post-war War II, sort of ideas of. Yeah. It's just what we avoided, but look, you know, and it also plays in that kind of Twilight Zone thing as well. It's weird to think that this movie in Cycle came out in the same year, though.

Oh, yeah. You know, I mean, and I'm peeping Tom, peeping Tom came out the same year. In the same country. This one harks to a more innocent. even though the story itself is a bit malicious, it's still that kind of hangover from kind of the 50s sci-fi stuff, whereas, you know, in this year as well, you've got things that are moving so far in the other direction in the same year.

It's weird, it's weirdly placed. But yeah, it's still like everyone should see it. Yeah, that's a good point, man. Yeah, that's a good juxtaposition between those two films and to think they came out the same year. Right on, man. Yeah, I'm going eight. I really enjoyed this more than I thought I would.

And it was a very fun Twilight Zone episode that was a little longer than normal. Eight for me. Yeah, I'll give it. Just because the runtime was so short, I'm going to give it a seven and a half. I think it did have some dead air like you were saying. But because the movie's so short, it's, it feels longer than it is. It really does. but if it was any longer

it would really feel shitty oh it would suck yeah so I like what they did with it yeah and you're right the Twilight Zone episode thing captured it right on it's no psycho

um by a mile but uh still a classic and yeah you should probably watch it I've only seen the remake and it's no Night of the Living Dead is it yeah

see the Night of the Living Dead didn't hold up too much for me. Oh, that's right. You didn't like it. Yeah, I just made fun of it a lot. Fair enough. Brian? I'm going to go 7.5 also. Well-acted. I was involved in the story, and definitely for me, better than the remake.

All right, cool. So basically, we're all saying check it out, if you haven't already, and I can't believe I hadn't before. Yeah, it's known as Deathline in the UK. Okay, we'll call it Deathline then. Director Gary Sherman, Also known for Poultergeist 3 and the Rutger Hauer classic Wanted Dead or Alive. Like Van Jovey? Writers, Gary Sherman and Ceree Jones. This actually is Edgar Wright's favorite horror film.

Did you know that, Duncan? Yeah, yeah, I remember a while ago, I'm a big fan of trailers from hell. The Joe Dante output that, you know, he gets these directors to come on and talk about about the trailers that influenced them to meet movies. And back then, I remember I'm talking about the movie. And, yeah, from him talking about it, I was like, you know, I need to check this one out. And this was my first watch of it for this show.

And what did you think? Well, this kind of shot me because, like, I, like, obviously, of all this guy's, like, telemography that he's done, the only one that I was familiar with was dead or alive. I've never seen Poltergeist 3 before, but I'm a big Rootkehrower fan, so I had seen that one before.

Until I did, so I had a video nasty podcast that ran for a while called Doing the Nasty. And, yeah. Winssel, you haven't done that in a while, have you? No, so we finished it, we ran through the, so there was 72 movies that officially made the video nasty list. And

of those like 72 movies we finished, we did basically 25 episodes covering them all. We are talking about returning because there was a third list. So that was the two the first two lists which were prosecutable and non-prosecutable, but there was also an advisory list of about 80 movies

and we are talking about coming back to do them. However, one of the greatest finds on that, because most of the movies are awful and it's, you know, they are, they're just like really, really bad movies. But because they have, overtly graphic cover art or maybe one seat. That's why...

Tiddleating artwork or whatever. Yeah, that's why they were banned. But one of the big fines for me is a movie that Gary Sherman had actually directed called Dead and Buried, which once again talking about Twilight Zone is very much like Twilight Zone. I cannot recommend Dead and Buried enough. I think it is a phenomenally's film that no one talks about. And he'd done this almost a decade after Deathline.

so once I was like once you denounced this for the show and I was reading back through it checking online and stuff I was like Gary Sherman that rings the bell on IMDB comes up dead and buried I was like this is the dead and bury director holy shit cannot wait to check this out

um deathline is surprisingly ahead of its time like really like deathline kind of floored me a little bit because not only once again I tend to think about like I did about the previous movie,

I tend to think about things in terms of context of when the movie actually came out. So 72 is the same year that last house on the left came out, but it's also two years before Texas Chesa Massacre comes out. So this movie to me is playing on a lot of the kind of trends that you had coming off, hammer horror, like not the vampire hammer horror, but more the kind of modern takes on the movies they're doing

when you see the cast has got, you know, it's got Donald Pleasins and Christopher Lee in it, so two kind of genre mainstays from the UK. But the fact that this is dealing with a cannibalism, social class, also

on some level the way that the kind of, not even just the class, but the class war internally within the kind of forces in the UK, whether that is kind of Scotland's yard,

the police itself, ordinary members of the public, and those that are classed as kind of peasants or, you know, are homeless. I thought that was done really, really well. Considering out with that, the movie is goofy. Like really, really, really goofy

about a kind of a cannibalistic, homeless guy who lives in a subway and is killing people and taking them down to eat. I mean, it seems ludicrous, but it's actually handled quite well. I thought the practical effects for 72 were great. I thought Donald Pleasant's played a blinder here. I absolutely loved him in this one. Overtly sarcastic police officer.

Christopher Lee shows up for a little bit of time, and it's good to see him. That was the only part of the movie I liked. Really, really? See, so we're doing a complete twist on this one. Oh, yeah, this is going to be great. Yeah, so I thought, like, Christopher Leapier's and his mustache is absolutely banging. I loved that. It's a guy, man.

I had no idea when he was that. And, yeah, like I said, love Donald Pleasins. I think the movie's maybe arguably about ten minutes too long, but, yeah. Ten minutes. How about two hours? I thought everything it was doing, though. I wasn't alive when this movie came out, so I don't know the ins and outs about things,

but I am aware that London for a while was a bit of a shithole to live in, and I think the movie kind of handles that quite well. It's kind of post-swing in 60s, so we're in this era of, you know, peace-love, well, peace-free love and drugs didn't save the world. It's the cynical 70s.

Right, right. And it carries in that it does have a very British level of cynicism, which I think I gravitate to very easily. But yeah, for the most part as a movie I'd never seen before, I was surprised how like I say ahead of its time I actually think it is. I think it's doing things that

Texas Chainsaw Massacre would refine quite a bit in two years' time. I thought the commentary, which maybe is more pertinent to the UK, but the kind of class war commentary that they put in here I think it's done really well. And yeah, to me, I can see why it's a movie that Edgar Wright really enjoys, if not, it's his favorite movie,

because this screams to me of the kind of aesthetic that Edgar Wright has taken and adapted and modified and what he would later do. Even the sense of humor in the movie, it feels in place with something like a Sean of the Dead. So, yeah, I thought it was surprisingly good movie for one that I had never seen before. Yeah, I got quite a lot fun with it.

Oh, my God, I've got to jump in. I hate to do this, guys. You know, I usually try to wait. But, oh, my God, when I saw the beginning of this with that swinging 60s music and the guy wearing the bowler hat and about to head down into the tube. The goddamn out of focus shots. Oh, out of focus shots. There were all kinds of posters, lavishist posters of, of,

strippers and things like that and I thought oh this is going to be great I can't fucking wait Edgar Wright loves this movie oh man the poster just looks amazing I just thought there was going to be so much more than what I got I'm so sorry Duncan

oh my god I fucking hated this movie this was like the most boring piece of shit I've ever seen in my life I thought Pleasance was fucking horrible he was so terrible oh my god he was so milk toast and what That's with that horrible joke about the tea bag.

I understand. I guess if you're in England, you know, if you're old school, you know, you put your tea in the spoon or whatever and stir it, stir it within the teacup, and it comes out that way. These tea bags are a new, newfangled idea that these kids have. But, God damn it, if they did that joke once, they did it 12 times in the fucking movie. And then you had the chick that was coming in that looked like she was an extra on one of the Austin Power sets that was always bringing in his tea. She said, oh, you don't like tea bags, but do you still want the tea, sir? And he says, oh, of course. It's like, oh, my God, this was

terrible. I just couldn't get into this at all. And then I thought that the special effects were just ludicrous. To me, at least the blood looked like it was pink. I don't know. Maybe I just got a bad copy of it or something, but I saw it on Showtime, so you would think that it was a legit copy it's yeah it's not like it wants to do on youtube or something um but i i looked at the poster and i thought oh my god you're going to have all these mad crazed cannibals coming up from from below the sewers and the tube and they're going to be chasing everybody all over the city and this is going to be an epic and it's just going to be amazing but you've got this one fucking vagrant that's that that's a fucking mutant for crying out loud and you know he i guess that the the the

wife he had or the woman that he loved or whatever died you know there was this terrible tragedy or what have you and so he he picks this this newer chick that i mean good god talk about wooden acting who the hell is this lady my this was terrible guys i'm sorry i've said enough i want to hear what you guys think philip long ago i wish i had more to say about it i i tried to watch this one late last night and I got through just the very first scene, just the opening sequence

and I don't remember anything after that because it passed out. And I rented the motherfucker. I know. I'm like, ah, I really wanted to watch this. It looked like it was going to be like a like almost a really cool subway monster movie. It was so awesome. I was so excited. From the beginning, I'm excited about it.

Man, I really wanted to finish watching it. I was mad that I fell asleep. I couldn't wait to get home and watch this, in fact, because I actually, I just, I felt so happy because this was on Showtime, like, early in the morning. So I was able to record it and watch it when I got home. And then I had to get Village of the Damn through iTunes. And I was so excited to see this movie. And I was like, yes, yes, yes, yes. And then about 10 minutes in, I was like, no, no, no, no.

Come on, Brian, save us, man. This is the one I skipped, man. I'm sorry. I can agree with the only thing I can agree with you on Duncan is that I really like Donald Pleasance in this movie but other than that I was bored out of my mind I was just if he wasn't in this I don't even know if I could finish this I was really not clear what this movie was about I thought it was going to be like a slasher movie until we got introduced to the guy in the subway or whatever wherever he was at and i was really confused on what this movie was about and just nothing happened throughout i did think the practical effects i did like them i will say that but other than donald pleasants i did not like

anybody especially the the american guy oh god this movie to me looks like it was a movie directed by an American of what he thinks London was in 72. I did like the single shot. Right in the middle of the movie, they had that one single shot that went underground and the one camera panned all the way around that one room and then went down the hallway. Oh, when we were seeing all the bodies and stuff? I thought that was pretty well done. Yeah.

Yeah, but there's other moments where you just have these long takes of like people walk, like at the end where they're walking down the corridor or whatever, whatever, whatever. whatever you call it. And they tell... Get these kids out of here? Yeah, I didn't think it was necessary for us to watch them walk all the way because the scene was just going on and on

and nobody was saying anything and it was... I don't know what to say about this movie. This is probably one of the most boringest movies I've reviewed on the show. I love it. I love different points of opinion. Oh shit.

Duncan, ready for your score, Duncan? yeah yeah like I see I clearly had a better tip than you guys I don't know maybe it just translates better over here I don't know and maybe it doesn't there could be a lot of English people listening to this right now that are going Duncan's a dickhead they're banging on steering wheels yeah will not be the first time I've been called that either and will not be the last yeah I think to me it just reminded me of a lot of movies that I like from the 70s that kind of reminded me of a kind of British version of

deranged. But yeah, I would give it exactly the same grade. I gave Village of the Damned. I would give it a seven. That's nice. Good. Seven's good. For me, it's one and a half.

Who's next? Ouch. I'm going to give an eight for the opening sequence. Yes. And then I fell asleep. Through no fault of the movie, I just could not keep my eyes on it. All right. So Philip could have very well given this.

one in eight, Duncan. Yep, that's why I'm taking away from this show as Philip was an eight. There you go. I'm gonna go three. I like Donald Pleasance. One third good. I thought the practicals was good.

There was something in this movie that could have been good, but I just, I don't, I just think they just missed it completely, at least for me. So I'm going to have to go three. I was hoping for a really bad slasher flick. Yeah, well I was hoping for it well

All right You guys ready for the for the big one The final movie of the night Yeah Ryder's Ben Wheatley with Amy Jump And I noticed this before When I saw a field in England It seems like she's credited

With pretty much every Every Wheatley movie Am I? Yeah, it's his wife I was speculating about that It was either his wife Or it was a Garth Brooks and Tricia Yearwood

On the road situation Yeah, yeah. Okay. The rainbow featured prominently in the film as a real one. There was a rainbow written into another scene, but it was changed when the crew saw one during the shooting. And the scene where Jay rips off the tablecloth was taken from several episodes. This is sad.

Several episodes in writer Amy Jump's actual childhood. So, all right. Duncan, here we go, man, kill list. You had me sold on coming. on your show when you said Kill List. Kill List is maybe one of my favourite British horror movies ever made and that's no joke.

I think anyone that's ever listened to podcast under this says, well know that I have the biggest hard on in the world for Ben Wheatley. Ben Wheatley is like to me he is the big shiny new talent in the UK that has been

working away and people are catching up, but it seems like every movie releases maybe some more people are catching up, and if they go back and check the back catalogue, then, you know, hopefully they will enjoy it as much as, you know, the people that had been there since the start,

have been familiar with his stuff since Down Terrace, which was his first feature. And before that, he wrote for a TV show, like a weird, surreal, kind of comedy show called Ideal, which I want to say it's ideal.

but it was brilliant. It's done really weird, kind of trippy, head fuck sort of TV show that used to come on a weird hour's in the UK. Kind of comedy stuff, but very, very weird. It's kind of stonery, but surreal. And, yeah, so Kill List was getting a lot of buzz before I saw. When it came out, the words I'd heard described to kind of put forward Kill List is like the word Wicker Man had been used.

And I was like, oh, you know, that's... one of these ones where you can't just really just throw that in a conversation and expect me just to go, oh wow, it's like the wicker man, because the wicker man's such a... That's a great film. Sorry to... Yeah, but it's a whole unique experience. You watch the wicker, you never forget your watch with the wicker man. And Killlist actually surprisingly does follow a lot of the same beats.

It is in effect a very similar story about a guy who is brought into a world that he doesn't understand that is forced to kind of go through a series of different trials. and then ultimately takes part in, you know, a paganesque ritual at the end. So, I mean, it does follow the same beats, and I can kind of see where they were coming from. It has maybe 100% less folk singing. No, no, bartender, barkeep's daughter, huh? No, none of that. And the bees!

Oh, you're thinking of the remake. Let's not talk about that. That we do not talk about on this pie clip. What I will say is, that I what I love about Kill List is I've seen this movie about 10 times

and every time I watch it I focus on another part of the story that I kind of thought was superfluous to the main kind of throng of it and I find that I get more of it each time.

I think it's a movie that demands to be watched at least twice to get your bearings and it is deliberately slow-paced to begin with and even when you are

watching it you might not necessarily think it's a horror movie until someone gets attacked with a hammer and then your world is kind of shook at that point. It gets very, very dark. Towards the end it gets

incredibly trippy. As one of my favourite endings to a British horror movie in the last decade. This is the movie to me that puts Ben Wheatley on the map as a guy who has an interesting

take and looking back at specifically folk horror in the UK and updating it for a modern audience and that's before I start talking about how great the cinematography is and how it's casted perfectly with a lot of actors that he uses and a lot of his other projects

and yeah this movie to me I could speak for hours about my theories about exactly what's happening all the way through the movie I won't do that because I want people to go and check it out but needless to say yeah this movie

is not for everyone and I've had plenty of people that's told me that they didn't like it or they just didn't get or they don't want to think when they watch a movie and I totally get that. To me, Kill List is as, yeah, it's about as close as you get

to a British horror masterpiece that's come out in the last decade. Brian, did you like it? Yeah, anybody that told you they didn't like it or they're wrong. This movie is fucking awesome. I loved everything. And you're right, because this was a second time watch for me.

And there was things I didn't pick up when I first watched it. Like, I totally did not see. I'm going to just point out a couple things I did not see. Where the lady did the marking on the back of the mirror and grabbed the tissue with the blood on it, I did not remember seeing that. And it kind of just put the movie in a different perspective for me. And that ending, that ending, let me. let me just tell you this movie pissed my wife off

this is a movie we saw before we went to bed and she was blown away that the fact I told her a movie that she's seen recently was Free Fire. Oh yeah, yeah. She really enjoyed that movie. And I told her, well, this is the same guy that made that movie. And it just blew her mind. And that ending

just really disturbed her. And I thought the acting was fine. I really like what was the actor in and uh michael smiley i really like him he's had a lot of wheatley stuff yeah yeah he's great i've seen him several times yeah um and i was the main character you just i just was really rooting for him through this movie through everything he was going

through you know and then you got he got his wife just constantly you know in his ear about money and then horrible the son was horrible i mean he goes up and smacks him while he's shaving and he cuts himself and I don't know it just added to the to me rooting for this guy and then the mystery of

everybody telling him that you know basically they know who he is and he does he has no idea why yeah and it was crazy I love this movie what do you think I don't I don't know what the fuck I think about this movie I'm so confused right now I have no idea

what the fuck is going on first of all the volume mixing guy needs to be fired. I fucking hate that. Not on my copy. You might have had a bad copy, man. Really?

Okay, I tried to watch it on YouTube and that was a bad idea because the volume was so low, it was dumb. And then I found another copy of it and it was still like they just, they have this real thick British accent anyways. And so when they talk

real low and bring the volume so far down that you have to like crank that shit all the goddamn way up to hear anything, and then, you know, a plate breaks or something, and it's like the whole house explodes. So I was... To be fair, I don't think that I heard a lot of the dialogue that was going on, which may contribute to my confusion. Because I thought I kind of knew where it was going.

I like the setup. I like the way they do it. It's one of those where they drop you in the middle of this very real world, and you just have to pick up on what's going on from conversations around you. And when he starts doing his little hits on people, and they're thanking him for it and saying that they know who he is and all that, I'm like, oh, okay, now we're interested. This looks cool as shit.

And then the ending, I was like, I don't know where it came from. It just took a left turn somewhere. And I was like, what are all these naked people and masks doing here? How did this happen? And they're chasing him and he's got a fucking machine gun and he hasn't mowed them all down yet. And then the ending, I don't understand at all. I have so many questions. I don't know what I think about this movie.

How did that happen? Yeah, I'm a bit of a Ben Wheat. fan. I thought sightseers had really good dark comedy. I've never seen ideal, but I need to go back and check that TV series out now, Duncan, now that you've... Yeah, he did an entire... Yeah, he did an... and

he was involved with the... It has about like six series, but he did an entire series of it. I think it's series four or five. And it is the weirdest trippy shit you've ever seen. I can't wait. I cannot fucking wait. That's on the absolute must watch list. And speaking of Trippy,

uh, the one that he did a field in England, which was all short of black and white. Yeah, it's phenomenal. Wow. If you're going to see that one, please, please, please do not see it unless you take something. Yeah. It helps so much at High Rise. I watched High Rise

on the airplane when we visited the UK a couple of years. Oh no, actually it was last year when we went to Spain and I fucking loved it. I loved High Rise. I love High Rise. I love High Rise. Free Fire was a downer for me.

Okay, so I'm going to say, why did I mention all that? Well, because I'm going to say that this is Wheatley's masterpiece. I fucking love this movie. Everything it says about organized religion, everything it says about people getting in over their heads and getting into something that they have no business being in, and because the desperation that they relayed. So he's got an absolutely beautiful Swedish wife

that he's trying so hard to keep her happy. and she's so fucking demanding and he's got a little shit of a kid and he's just, he's us, he's every man and he gets this opportunity and his wife is of course pushing him because god damn and honey, you've got to make some money for the family here and they already

open showing you they're very much in debt, they've spent all their money it's such a fucking beautiful I love this movie. It's so gorgeous and then the way that they do it toward the end and if you've seen Hereditary which we've loved that movie, we saw it this year. There's so much that

the director obviously took from this. And Duncan, I love the fact that you mentioned the movie on Summer Isle. Wicker Man. Wicker Man, thank you. The original, the only real Wicker Man.

Not Nicholas Cage? Oh my God. There's so many parallels here. Yeah. And it's just, I just, it's so difficult for me to even say what this movie meant to me, but it's so special. And the dialogue was fantastic.

The parts at the end just had me on the edge of my seat. The way that this guy turned, so, you know, it showed you, it showed him very gradually, you know, more and more buying into this thing and realizing that, you know, he was an animal. People are animals. And he became a full animal because he wanted to take care of his wife and his family. And he was willing to do the things that these strange people, told him that he had to do and you know go down this kill list or whatever and then at the end we find out that nobody was quite going after who you thought they were going after and it was all they leave a lot to the imagination which I really I really appreciate when a movie ends that way but it was just so creepy it had the hair standing up on the back of my neck when you got into the last 10 minutes of the movie when people started showing up and and they were they hanged that person who wanted to be hanged and

They just had that big smile and just so fucking creepy. Masterpiece. My favorite Waitley movie so far. I need to re-watch this one. I think you do. I think I missed a lot of things. The scene where the religious nuts started going into song and the guy was playing guitar. And he went over and he was just so irritated with that because of the fucking formal religion bent.

Yeah. And come to find out, he's involved in the old. religion or the oldest religion in England, which I guess is, you know, maybe this is the same cult that created Stonehenge. Who knows? But a beautiful movie. I really loved it. A bunch of naked people created Stonehenge. I'm not buying that.

Oh, absolutely. Duncan, how much do you know about ancient religion, man, in the islands? And Scotland are just in the UK in general. Stonehenge is... Ireland, the UK? Yeah, Stonehenge is like the... they're still people confused about how, because the stones

from Stonehenge are not, they weren't they weren't sourced in England, they were sourced in Wales, and realistically they don't know how they got them from there because of the size and weight of them, how they managed to transport them from, well, yeah, this is one of the prevailing theories.

Plus where it lies is on a layline as well, like a religious layline, which does make, like how they knew that when they were designing it. All these things that come out where I just think that people a long time ago were a lot smarter than we give them credit for. Yeah, like see when you're re-watching the film again, Phil. Look at it from the point of view, from the moment she draws the symbol, the kill-less symbol,

on the back of the mirror, that is the beginning of the ritual. Look at it from that point of view. And everything from that point onwards in the movie is a trial that he has to go through to basically initiate himself as almost like a savior to their ritual and when you watch it the viewing experience takes on a completely

different tone and it makes it a completely different movie but if you look at from that point of view just kind of follow through each of them there's a trial so to speak has the wife involved the whole time no I don't think so I think she's drugged at the end so I think that's the last sacrifice

that he has to do. Oh, and the poor child, huh? Yeah. That's the, that's the last sacrifice that he has to complete in order to, in order to become the, yeah, to be the mistake. Very much, like hereditary is a great comparison. It's exactly that sort of idea that he has to. That's why they dress her up.

They drug her and dress her up to look and put the kid on the back to make it look different as well. The hunchback, right? Yeah, to give that a different physique. so it's all designed that way. It's purely from the moment that she draws that symbol that's the beginning of their religious event very similar to an hereditary

and no spoiler from me on that one because that's a modern movie. But right from the moment, the event happens that you're not expecting that leaves your draw on the ground. And that movie from there is the start of an initiation towards a ritual at the end is really, really, really, really well done.

It's like very, it's incredibly well done. And like I see, you'd be able to watch it about four or five times and still pick out things you didn't pick out before. Characters in the background, certain phrases that are said that have more importance. It's layered. It's layered in a way

that a lot of movies aren't. And yeah, I think it's, in my personal opinion, it's Ben Wheatley's best movie. And I think he's done, I love the fact that he's genre jumps. I know Lance was saying, you know, you kind of thought Free Fire to me is the movie

he wanted to make, which was an ode to the love that he has for. I mean, he's got a huge love for 70s cinema, just in general, and that's his nod to kind of 70s kind of crime capers. And he's got that out of his system. The next movie he's talking about doing whether or not he is actually doing it. It is some, I need to find the name of it, because it is the funniest name you've ever heard

for a movie ever. Freak Shift? Yes. Yeah, Freak Shift, which is about, well, let's see if we've got here, a band of misfits hunting down and kill Undergram Nocturnal Monsters. Sign me up.

That's what raw meat should have been for me. That's what I thought it was going to do. Which, to be honest, it would not surprise me if that's what he's based on. Seventies movie after Rojohn. Wouldn't surprise me. in the least. And he's also working on a filmized version of the ideal TV show as well. So there

you go. Oh, yes. I got to go back and check out that show. So you guys ready for scores? Absolutely. Yeah. All right. Very good. Because we could talk about this forever. Duncan, what do you think, man? One to ten. It's ten. It says a ten. Nice. I'm going to go nine and a half. Really, really love this movie. What? Can I give it a question mark? Is that a score? Yeah, absolutely.

We'll have our first question mark ever after 114 episodes. That's legit is my score. I'm telling you right now. I'm going to watch it again, though. I'll give you another score. Because I like it. I'm just super fucking confused. I can't, I couldn't hear the goddamn thing.

You need to see it again on a good format, man. Yeah. Yeah, this is my second watch. Easy 9 for me. easily my favorite Wheatley movie and I expect great things for him in the years to come for sure so yeah

I definitely give it a nine and whatever year it came out it was probably my favorite movie that year I'm guessing I think it was what about 10 years ago maybe 2012 I think it's when it made its way at the States 2011 in the UK so yeah

seven and eight years all right good deal so before we sign off, Duncan, can you tell our listeners again where to find you? Yeah, please come across and check out my show, the podcast under the stairs. You can check it out on Facebook, facebook.com

forward slash groups, forward slash T-Putscast. That's T-P-U-T-S-Cast. Or visit the website, t-putzcast.com. I also do a show called Duncan and Bocom, correct. It's available on Legion Podcast Network. And, Jets, just before you sign off, can I say it's been an absolute

privilege, pleasure, and honor coming on your show. Thank you very much for the invite. Thank you for coming on. Definitely appreciate it, man. Yeah, it was awesome. I want to eat your accent with a spoon. All right, so let's shout out to the real heroes here.

As always, we want to thank all of you, the listeners, for listening to another episode of the Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can reach us at the Horror Returns at gmail.com. Be sure to follow us. We're, Brian?

Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, Tumblr. Join our Facebook group also. Great discussion group, man. So next week, it's Giant Shark Week. Or as Bid would say, shock week. We're going to check out Meg.

God damn it, I don't want to, but you guys are making me, so. Fucking for real. This looks amazing. And you know what? You know what? Really sucks. You know what? really kicks me in the fucking nuts.

That you're going to love it. No, that I can't get a movie pass, man. Oh. Yeah. So we'll check out Meg and whatever. Brian, what is this last shark thing, man? Come on. I have not seen it.

Nez recommended it. It's the last shark, also known as Great White, from 1981. All right, well, the only thing that makes me sleep at night is knowing that that cocksucker is going to have to watch it, too. because he's going to be on the show with us. And Patrick, like I said, man, we're all rooting for you, and we need you to be on the show with us next week.

So, Phil, until the horror returns again, good night.