The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #124: Identity (2003) & Bad Times At The El Royale (2018) (Reupload)

Episode Date: January 9, 2025

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Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware, this podcast contains major plot spoilers, and the foulest. of language, join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back one and all to the horror returns. I'm Lance and with me as always are my co-host, Philip. I'm not going to call you fabulous Philip, but Brian, your reputation precedes you, man. Nez is on his podcast. He's already calling you brutal Brian. So I'm afraid, I'm afraid, I'm afraid it's going to stick.

We couldn't get, we couldn't get Philly the kid to stick. Killy the kid. Eh, we'll go with that. We'll go with that. How's it going, guys? It's going good. How about,

how's it going with you guys? I was hoping to be fabulous. We can break fabulous back. I'm doing pretty good, man. What would you guys do this week? I've been, last two days I've been moving, moving my son from one apartment to another.

because they jacked his rent up so oh um and and it's all right i had to bring a bring him a big sectional couch and a futon from our house anyway so rented the you hall uh brought that stuff out here and got him all all moved over so he's basically moved like uh a tenth of a mile away from his other apartment but he's paying like

two hundred dollars a month less for a bigger for a bigger place go figure that out that's worth it yeah What are you going to do? I, uh, uh, we had some, uh, some California-like waves down here in Galveston this week. So heard about that. Yeah, there was like a thousand surfers out there. And, uh, I felt like I couldn't skip that, even though I don't entirely know what I'm doing. So, uh, I got out there and got down, man.

I, uh, I stood up on the board. I was even turning it a little bit. It was pretty cool. I couldn't stay out there too long. But, uh, I had a lot of fun. And, you know, kids, we took the new puppy out there. Who is my? Like, cool and not cool of the week every week.

Because now our house is like pee, he just will not stop. No. And every 25 seconds, he's got a new thing in his mouth. So, yeah, lab puppies. What are you going to do? Brian, do you guys do any surfing up there in Alaska? Not necessarily, no. It's a little, a little bit too chilly.

Yeah, there's some people that do crazy shit jumping into cold water. It's not for me. Not this time, huh? No, not this time, not no time. Little too cool? Yeah. Well, speaking to cool, Brian? Oh, I have a bunch of stuff.

Real quick shout up to Nez. Was on the E Society talking a little, uh, UFC 229. Of course. Oh, yeah. I didn't have a chance to watch it. So Connor McGregor got tapped out, right? Yeah, it was, uh-oh.

It was expected. I mean, I was like I was on East Society talking about. Nobody really realizes he hasn't fought in the UFC since like 2016. Yeah, and his ground game has never been quite up before. Yeah. So, uh, yeah, could be. had his way with him. Against one of the best wrestlers ever.

Yeah. But mostly I came on to talk about the, the melee that ensued after. Yeah. A lot of suspensions. Some arrests. A lot of fines. So, yeah, what the hell is his name? Cabob.

Cabo. Cabo. Cabo? Yeah. Kabibi. Cabo. If you ask one of the Dias, it is Kabob. Yeah.

But. No, it's a Khabib. Kabib. And his last name's even harder. Yeah. So one of his, he jumped a fence or something and attacked one of Connor's buddies and then one of his buddies came in. And I didn't see the whole thing. So he.

So he choked, he choked Connor out, kind of held onto the hold after the referee told him to stop. And I believe he didn't spit on Connor. Ouch. Through his mouthpiece towards his corner. and then said something to somebody, and I believe it was one of his coaches, jumped the cage, jumped into the crowd, and then all hell broke loose,

and then the camera cuts back to Connor arguing with somebody, and then a bunch of people jump in. One guy jumps in behind them and punches him in the back of the head. Oh, wow. Yeah, and there was charges, there was arrest made, but Connor said he's not pressing no charges.

Okay. which uh he's a fighter of course he's not well he said a lot of stuff about specific people in russia that i don't i don't know if it's completely wise to mess with these people he was talking about dictators and presidents and are we getting this is russia are we are we getting a preview for creed two here or what uh i know this was uh one of the biggest uh payper views ever so I'm sure the rematch after the suspensions are over is gonna do even more oh yeah and they got to do that everybody'll tune into that no but besides that I'm I checked out a bunch of shows now I just a bunch of shows came out so I only watched the the first

episode for each into the dark that new Hulu series it's gonna be like I've heard bad I've heard bad things Yeah. Is it a series or is it a movie? They said series but they're like movies or at least I don't know really fucking long episodes. I don't know. That's with Alexander Scarsgard, right? No, no, no, no, no. This is the one that they're doing one episode every month and it's supposed to be based on whatever that holiday is.

Oh, okay. And this one was of course based on Halloween. It was called The Body and it had to do with like a, a hit man on the night of Halloween and that was kind of stupid because it didn't really, that was the only thing the thing had anything to do with Halloween. It just happened on Halloween. Just happened to be Halloween, huh? Yeah, and it was

too fucking long. I think if these were actual like shorts, like 20, 30 minutes, I think it would have been better, but I believe it was like almost an hour and a half. Wow. What am I thinking of? Full movie. No, you're thinking of the same thing. It's a quote-unquote series, but it's like a quarterly movie or something or a monthly movie or something like that, Brian?

He might be in this one of the... No, there's something on Netflix. Oh, is there something else you mentioned? It was like the wolf thing. Oh, that's... Wolf Creek? On... What is it?

On to the dark? It's almost the same name. Oh, hold the dark. Hold the dark. There you go. I try to watch that. That's boring, too, from one of air. Yeah.

So basically there's a lot of shit coming out. Yeah. Also checked out the first episode of Light as a Feather. Written one of the screenwriters is a friend of the show, Seth Sherwood. Right, right? I'm going to stick with it because there's some things that happened in the first episode that intrigued me. Really? You're not even the target audience, dude.

No, I was going to say that. I am not the target audience. This is more for younger, younger people. Right. But there was a thing that happened with the person. I'm not going to spoil it, but I'm kind of intrigued because the way the trailer went, I thought it was a whole different thing,

supernatural thing happening. You know, you're the only person who could tell me a thing happened with a person and I would go, oh, okay, I'll watch that. You know, the thing that happened. Well, what, hey, let me, let me, Let me ask you this. Do you think it... My wife likes Pretty Little Liars,

and I never watched that. Do you think she would enjoy this? I can't compare it because I have no idea what that is. Okay. My wife really wants to watch this one. We just saw a commercial for it. Yeah. AJ would too then.

If first we're going to check this one out, I think AJ might. Yeah, I figure it. And Hulu did a Netflix. They dropped the entire series. Right. And they're only, from what I know, the episodes are about 20 to 24 minutes long. Yeah, I actually saw some stuff on Facebook and social media when people were posting like, I can't believe they did that at the very end or why do I have to wait with all these cliffhangers?

Apparently it's got like a major fucking cliffhanger at the end. So it might be worth checking out. Different guy with a different thing. Yep. and let's see also check out the first episode of the haunting of Hill House on Netflix very

very creepy yeah like what they're doing yeah I've heard good things and Philip you'll be sad to say or for me to or you'll be sad to hear that

Lulu Wilson is not the cute little girl no more she looks like she's about 13 now oh yeah you all grow up and she's still obnoxious as Hill? She's only in it for a little bit, because

the first episode kind of jumps back and forth with flashbacks. She had this, like, Shirley Temple thing, I don't know, she was trying too hard. It looks like she was on a commercial for dish soap. It's gone. Everything that she does. The good ship, Lollipop.

Let's see. Checked out the first episode of Titans on DC Universe. Oh, we're dying to know, man. I like it. What? The action is very violent. Okay. There's some things that...

There's a lot of people are kind of hating on certain things that don't... You're fading out, man. Bother me. One of the characters... Can you hear me? There we go. There we go. Okay, I'm back.

I might not actually be a person. I think he's a robot. I could be. There's a character on there that was casted by a black actress and a lot of people instantly got upset about it. Starfire. Yeah. She's very attractive in my point of view.

So I like the action in it. Is that something it's even okay to be upset about at this point? No, some people, you know, there's somebody always got to find something to bitch about. Oh, yeah, that's true. I'm fine with it. I'm totally fine with the fuck Batman line because, hey. And they used it for real? Yeah. Uh-oh.

Where is this one? Is this a Netflix thing? It's a DC streaming service. DC streaming service. Who the fuck has that? Everybody's getting their own thing. But if, uh, Philip, you know how to find it. Yeah, I'll find it. And I think that's it. Yeah. A bunch of TV shows. I have one more TV show, but I'm, you know,

gonna wait because I think one of you guys have watched it and are gonna bring it up. Well, I've got it. I got my, can I do my cool of the week, Phil? I'm like jumping up and down, dude. No, that's cool because, yeah, I want you to talk about that one before I get into it. They're back.

They really are back, man. I don't know, I don't know what it took if it was the new showrunner or if it was the fact that people know that they're like gonna go totally off the rails from the comic book and kill off the main character. But the fucking new beginning, episode one, season nine of the Walking Dead.

I'm going to say it, I'm going to say it right here and now. My favorite episode of The Walking Dead, I think when it peaked was when, um, when, uh, those fucking assholes that, um, were trying to rape Carl. Oh, yeah. And Rick fucking beat the fuck out of them. Great scene. Really great scene. And I thought that was probably my favorite season.

And then, um, probably first and second season were after that. dude, I'm being cautiously optimistic, but if it keeps on this trajectory, for me, this is quality one at season one and two of Walking Dead for me. So much happened.

Yeah, it was so good. They developed the characters and it's just, I mean, it's back to old school fucking fighting zombies. You didn't have all this fucking political intrigue and shit like that. It's like, we've moved on. I know there was an 18-month time jump from the prior,

the end of the last season. Negan didn't even show up yet, so it'll be interesting to see what happens when he shows up. But no spoiler at all, because everybody knows that they didn't kill him, but they kept him in a cell. So Rick's got him locked away. I don't know.

This was really good, man. And it's about fucking time that all the characters that have been kind of like, relegated to the to the background like Darrell are kind of like stepping up now because you can tell they're setting it up for Rick to knowing Rick's going to be gone but um yeah it's finally it's like everybody it's it's like a full ensemble cast and everybody's getting their own time in the sun like Carol had some great scenes maggie had some great scenes Michone had some great scenes um my favorite part of the entire episode though was something that I didn't think they were going to do it

because they fucking teased us with it. Per the timeline in the comic books, it should have happened in the last season, and it didn't. And I was so fucking pissed off that it didn't, and they were keeping this cock sucker around. You're talking about that very last scene? Sure is shit, dude.

I thought the show was over. They went to a commercial break, and I thought, well, fuck, God damn it. Shit, motherfucker, God damn. We've got to fucking wait till next week to see what happens to this fucking. an asshole. Nope. Commercial was over. Did I miss a scene?

It was an extended episode and he got his, he got his fair due. Finally. That was my cool of the week, The Walking Dead. What did you say, Brian? I said, did I miss the scene? Did you? I don't know. Are you talking about somebody

that gets the... I don't want to say a spoiler, though, because... The very last scene... I haven't seen yet. Yeah, is pretty... That one sticks with you. You're finally like, yeah. Fuck that guy. Does I have to do with a rope? Yes.

Okay. All right. I have your cool of the week last week, Lance. I saw a star is born. You liked it, too, in spite of yourself, right? I loved it. It was a great movie. Oh, man.

Every, like, I can't say enough good things. I think Bradley Cooper nailed every second of it. Even though he was kind of just doing his best Sam Elliott impression. But it still worked.

Sam Elliott was awesome in it. Lady Gaga was fucking spectacular, dude. The whole, I mean, even though it was a role that was Taylor made for her. Right. I think that she totally pulled it off, man. And it is

that movie is a gut punch. So be ready to get emotional. but yeah, great, great movie. I did check out The Walking Dead, and yeah, I agree with you. I think they're back in stride. Hopefully they keep going like this. I get a little worried sometimes because they're really bad about having one episode

where a whole bunch of really cool shit happens, and then they'll have like three or four episodes of just fucking no. Man, I hope that doesn't happen. Me too. I tried to watch Hold the Dark. That was the other one, which is my, I, I think maybe my not cool of the week, I'm not sure if I gave it a fair chance, though.

Yeah. It took me two times a watch. I had fell asleep the first time. I did too. That was my problem. It's long, like, between things that happen is just, like, long and... Yeah. Dialogue is awful.

It's one of those... Oh, no. They speak real low, and they all have different accents. Well, shit. And so, in speaking low and all these different accents, and you've already got it turned down because some shit just happened that was really fucking loud. You can't hear a goddamn thing that they're saying. And it drives me inside.

Like, I had to put on the subtitles, and even then, I fell asleep. There's a really good shootout scene in this movie, though. Is there? Yeah. Like I missed that one. Does that make it worth the price of admission, though? If you know where to fast forward to the movie to. Oh, no.

Well, it's on Netflix, so I'm going to watch it eventually. Yeah, it looked like it was taking a weird turn, so I'm hoping they get there. I may give it another chance. Mm-hmm. And then a funny story, which I probably should have said earlier when asked about the things I was doing this week. I was at a baseball game, and we have a machine pitch division. So I'm up on the pitchers mound feeding the ball into my kids, and the other team's pitcher is standing beside me.

A lot of times we get to talking. Right. This kid, like towards the very end of the game, he'd been telling me about, you know, his whole life story, all his brothers and cousins and all this bullshit. At the very end of the game, he just looks over at me and he goes,

is it true that black people are faster than white people? Whoa! I had to stop what I was doing. And I about died. I was like, No, and you can't say that because it's racist. That's awesome. Honestly, yeah, kind of.

Anyway, so that ends my cool of the week. I figured that would be a good story to go out on. All right, well, on that note, Brian, it is now time for horror headlines. Are you ready to bring it? Yes, sir. Let's see. A little non-horror news here. I'm sure you guys have heard

because when it happened, it was like all over the news. James Gunn is going to write and possibly direct the next Suicide Squad movie. Well, I don't give a fuck about suicide squad, period. But it's James Gunn, though.

It's James Gunn. I don't know. You get a hell of a job of Guardians of the Galaxy. Same actors, though, from the first one, right? I mean, Jared Leto and Will Smith and all that. I don't know who the fuck's in the movie, but...

You know what? Jerry Leto was not super happy about this. He's got some sort of personal issues with James Gunn. Oh, fuck, that. I don't know. That's what I heard. I know. Batista said,

how do I sign up for a role? No shit. Yeah. He likes... He likes... He likes... He likes working with James Gunn, it sounds like. Oh, yeah.

I mean, the amount of people that were fighting for him to get his guardian's job back, a lot of people like him. Yeah. So what's the controversy? Anybody know? Do you guys even know the details of what alleged happened? He tweeted a couple jokes about, like, rape and pedophilia, like, in 2002 or 10 or something. I don't know, like 10 years ago. And you said jokes, right?

Yeah, him being, there's just stupid jokes. He wasn't, he wasn't like trying to be offensive. He just thought it was funny. And he had apologized for it a long time ago and pulled it down. But, you know, once it's on the internet. Yeah. On the internet. And I guess it got brought to Disney's attention.

Just takes one person. He'd outraged about it. And he got fired and basically the entire cast of Guardians, along with like Kurt Russell and like other people were like petitioning him to get back, get his job back, but Disney was like no. Hmm. Now was this, this was before the Roseanne thing, right? Uh, I don't know.

I think it was, but I can't, I don't know. There was like just this weird trend of people they like found shit, dug things up on Twitter and got mad at people about it. Well, I think there was a, with the inception of Rosam. Well, the Roseanne was new. Yeah. She was like, here I am.

Who's the newest one? I couldn't even tell you, man. What? Bet Midler? What are they going to do to her? Come on. I think she tweeted out something about women are the new N-words of the world or something. Oh, dude, that's an old song from John Lennon from the six.

Yeah, but she didn't use, I used words and words. So she... Okay, that's cool. Whatever. She chose the phrase it differently. Listen, that was a different time. Bet Miller's old as fuck. Yeah. You got to give him a little bit of leeway.

So... Wow. I'm not excited for the movie, but I'm excited for him to get some work because I kind of felt it was stupid for him to get fired over something that happened over 10 years ago that he had already apologized and taken down. Right.

Freedom, but I agree. A 10 years ago is dumb. I read one of them. I can't remember how it went, but it, not because I'm offended or anything, but it wasn't funny. They were like, on top of being bad jokes, they were, like, actual, like, bad jokes,

like, that weren't funny. But it was still a joke, dude. Come the fuck on, people. Let's see. Rambo, the last one, or the newest ones, titled Rambo Last Blood. Okay.

Makes sense, I guess. I mean, not a bad title. If it's anything like the last, the one before it, then this movie will be awesome. That's true. Because he will be taking on, he will be taking on the Mexican cartel.

Well, somebody has to, right? The Mayans aren't getting it done. No, I never went back. Just wasn't catching me. I have a missio del Toro. I haven't missed an episode. Benicio del Toro.

You're talking about a... Oh, fuck, Sicario. Sicario. Let's see. Godzilla versus Kong has cast Brian Tyree Henry. A lot of people know him as Paperboy from the hit show Atlanta.

Okay. And I guess this is spoiler for the Godzilla movie, but Millie Bobby Brown will also be in Godzilla versus Kong, so apparently she lives in Godzilla. Yes, she won't get eaten in this one. Well, good decision. And our last little bit of news,

director Mike Flanagan assures fans that the Shining sequel Doctor Sleep will be rated R. Okay. You know. A little bit of controversy if it was going to be PG-13 or R. Right. It's kind of funny. It's a funny age we live in

guys where filmmakers have to reassure the public that oh don't worry it will be rated R yeah should have done that with Venom I did it was okay we all get I gave it a 7 I know how cool could it have been

I guess now they're trying to say there there is no R rated version really yeah I don't think so because Tom Hardy had said something completely different that his favorite yeah like 20 years of footage

yeah like his favorite scenes weren't in the movie, so... Okay, well. Tom Hardy's got a pretty loud voice in Hollywood, so if he wants it to happen, it probably will. Yeah. You know? Yeah.

Sorry, Nez. Benham, too. Oh, yeah. He's always talking how trash it is. I was wondering. Oh, yeah, yeah. And on that, that. is the news.

All right. So, you boys ready? Yep. Phil, where are we going, Phil? Well, I suppose we can

dip our toe into that trailer park. Sometimes the pool is a little bit green. What are we going to see, man? Three different types of movies, right? Are there three?

Well, there's big ones. We're going to talk about some big ones. What else? We got some small ones sometimes. What else? What else?

Some really fucking weird ones. We got all kinds at the trailer park. They're everywhere. Coming out of the dark. Well, Brian, what's the first new trailer, man? I'm going to talk about the second trailer for Glass. What did you guys think? I am super pumped to this one.

Yep. I like it better than the first trailer. Okay. Agreed. Agreed. Yeah, it's going to be a good movie. It's definitely not going to be like an old school. M. Knight Shyamalan movie, I don't think.

I mean, I'm sure there'll be some kind of twist at the end, but I think it's going to be more straight ahead. Yeah. Like heroes and villains, right? Yeah, and I am, one thing that I really like when, what sequels, some sequels, when they cast the same actor to play, you know, minor roles. Right.

The kid that played Bruce Willis' son, he's of course an adult now. He is in this movie for prising his role. Okay. And I'm sticking to my theory that in the trailer, that is him, that's in the comic book store, looking at the villains, you know, it has the neon villain sign. Because my prediction is that he's... Yeah, he's got Bruce Willis' powers, but he doesn't know which way to go with him. Oh, that's going to add a twist to it.

Honestly, Bruce Willis is the only one that worries me in this movie, because the last few things that he's done have been pretty trash. Yeah, that is straight up phoned everything in. So, like, he's just done acting, and he's here to pick up a paycheck. But you don't think he'll do that in this one, do you? I hope not. I don't think so either. This is, like, of course, besides, like, die-hard and all that stuff. You know, a lot of people love...

This is like a lot of people's favorite Shaman movie. Mm-hmm. So I would hope he wouldn't phone it in. Well, hopefully not, man. I'm excited about it, though. I'll definitely go see it. Well, probably watch it for the show, I assume. I'll tell you what I'm excited about.

I've got my wallet right here. I want to hire fucking McAvoy's personal trainer. No shit. You take this fucking geeky little kid. What it was fucking five years ago, this kid was like, what, maybe 120 pounds soaking wet? Mm-hmm.

Holy shit, dude. I mean, I was thinking, is this computer animation or what? I mean, it looks like it could be him. He's... Oh, shit. This dude's fucking pumped. Yeah.

No shit. A little bit of it may be computer generator, when he's playing the beast. I don't know. Could be. Could be. But yeah, man, my hat's off to him, dude. That takes discipline, man. Oh, yeah. Now, watching this trailer, do you feel like some of the other characters are on the up and up? Like, Sarah Paulson's character?

No, not at all. And also... Not even remotely, man. She's got a new... They brought back to... They brought back to... Go ahead, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I think she's the one that you go, I told you so, bitch. Why the fuck are you acting like that?

Nah. And they brought back the same actress from The Unbreakable that played Sam Jackson's mother. Ah. She kind of looked like she knew some stuff, too. Because a lot of the trailer focused on Sam Jackson's character. Mm-hmm. And she did, she had that line in the trailer where she's smarter than everybody really thinks he is or some kind of line like that. Yeah.

I don't remember what it was, but yeah. Something along those lines. Keep underestimating him. Yeah, yeah. Well, it'll definitely be interesting to see where it goes. Samuel Jackson is a bad guy, so I need to fuck up. Mm-hmm. January 18th.

So, not too far away. And to our final trailer will be the remake of Stephen King's Pet Cemetery. And this is starring one of Lance's other favorite actors, Jason Clark, John Litton. Cal and Amy Semetz. Okay. This is where I mess up people's names. This is directed by Kevin Klaus and Dennis Weidmeier.

Yeah. Oh, the ones that did Starry Eyes, right? Yes, sir. Definitely. Well, it definitely looks more like the novel reads. Yes. I thought it was really creepy. Yeah.

Especially with the kids marching to that little drum, little drum beat. Yeah, with the little masks. Yeah, I thought that added to it. I could read the book, but the director said there's going to be a lot of things that are very accurate to the book. Like the whole scene with the, what is the character's name? Zelda. Oh, yeah.

And apparently she was a lot younger in the book, right? They've cast an actress that's really young. Okay. They said that's going to be accurate to the book, that scene. whatever that scene is, that scene. I think we got a serious trend here going with people actually making Stephen King movies that are close to the book. Yeah, and they're a lot better than they used to be. Sorry to say.

Yep, I agree, man. You guys know going into it, I wasn't expecting much because I love the original TV miniseries. Yeah. But that TV miniseries is shit compared to the new movie. It is. Like, I never, I never, like, when I rewatch that movie, I don't even watch the second half. Yeah, I know. Yeah, why bother.

The first half is way better. Mm-hmm. But the movie is really kick-ass, man, and I'm super excited for the next one. Yeah. But, yeah, Pet Cemetery, it looks promising. I know there's people already, because, what is the actor? Fred, Gwen, is that his name? Yes, from the original.

Yeah. I've seen people on social media basically he's not in it fuck this movie oh come on that's what we said about Tim Curry for it

yeah I'm like John Lithgow's not a bad person to cast in that role no he's John Lithgow so I'm yeah I'm definitely all in for this one yep I am too so

I think all three of us are in on this one yep which means you're you're going to put it on our schedule right yep April 5th 2019 so nice it's on the docket and that is the last trailer all right Phil I know we get some feedback this week oh we got a little bit of feedback

let me take a breath okay Marcus Will Turner is back with his 31 day of horathon number six with the update. The babysitter, while director Mick G, or MCG, and Mick G, we'll go to that. Hasn't won me over just yet. I dare say he may have found his niche with the babysitter,

a goofy horror comedy throwback with huge appeal and charm. Thanks to G-style over substance approach, this feature supports plenty of zany edits, cuts, references, and shots that any fan would get a kick out of. plus it's actually hilarious and a little heartfelt Samara weaving and Judah Lewis both gave solid performances and I hope to see more of them in the future bottom line this sitter didn't break any new ground in the genre

but still delivered the laughs as well as the thrills rating 7 out of 5 or 7.5 out of 10 that's a good ass review man yeah yeah I can dig it It was a good movie. Yeah, it was fun. But wait, there's more. Yeah.

We got 31 Day of Horrathon number seven. Dark, unnerving, and all-around unsettling. The Gift presents Joel Edgerton's near masterful range behind and in front of the camera as he crafts a truly twisted tale from start to finish. Rebecca Hall and Jason Bateman also put in a strong showings here. Yet Joel's script, tone, performance,

execution of events could have easily made Alfred Hitchcock smile in that oh so subtle way he used to. A hugely suspenseful and even a hell of a cautionary tale in its own right. A cessational directorial debut that's tough to deny. Rating 9.5 out of 10. Wow. 9.5. Fuck. That's a good movie. It is a good movie.

I forgot Jason Bateman was in it. He's not even a really standout character to me. But yeah, great movie. Definitely worth checking out. And obviously on the top of the list for Marcus, 9.5. And still more. Number 8 on his 31-day horathon. The most frustrating issue with malevolent is the premise could have gone and set...

That's the one with Angelina Jolie, right? No, no, no, that's Maleficent. Malevolent's like a newer Netflix that a lot of people say is boring as hell. It is. I fell asleep. I fell asleep like three times watching this movie. Right. Well, let's see what Marcus has to say.

Okay. He might love it. So we better be careful what we say here. I imagine since his first sentence is the most frustrating issue with Maleta. Probably not. Is the privilege to have gone in several distinct directions if the creators bothered to try harder with the script. All of the tools were there and even a few effective scares to make this another hit from Netflix. But sadly, in the end, what transpires is just listless and painfully uneventful.

Not to mention these characters, oh, not done. Not to mention these characters are essentially con artists and not even charming or competent to boot. So you can't care less about what happens to them, even from the can't wait to get their comeuppets standpoint. So yeah, comeuppets. I've never seen that word. I like that. That's what Gregory just got in the Walking Dead episode. Yeah, well, I don't know about that.

I guess you can say it. So, yeah, if you're a casual horror viewer, this could be slightly serviceable for you, but everyone else, at rating 3 out of 10. Ouch. Yeah, that hurts, man. All right, hold on. Hold on.

I'm taking it out of my Netflix queue. I know. Fuck this shit. Especially since Brian said it sucked, too. Yeah. Fuck this shit. Yeah, three out of ten. That's how many times I fell asleep

trying to watch it. I hate having to watch movies over and over just to get it. Oh, bad. Number nine is Cranpus. I actually have never seen Cranpus. Oh, you're missing out.

It's almost Christmas season, brother. I know. That'll be on the list. Make the kids watch it. He'll settle their ass down. They'll love it. Besides maybe Silent Night and Black Christmas,

Hey, we covered both of those in an old Christmas episode. Go back and check it out. I'm not sure that I've seen an authentic holiday-themed horror film before. But finally, I got to experience that with Cranthus, a demented yet festive X-Mis film for the whole family to enjoy. As somebody who's not into feel-good Christmas films, having something like this on the opposite end of the spectrum is refreshing. And while it could have had a bit more bite,

with an R rating, this yarn still packs a sinister wallop. The cast works, the setting works, and it thankfully doesn't cop out with the ending. Not to mention the monster designs are top-notch and unexpectedly innovative. So maybe this can become a holiday tradition in the future.

Maybe. Rating 8 out of 10. Wow. Okay. Cool. Number 10. The guest. Man,

You guys still Marcus here? For today, yeah. This is... We can... Some serious fucking movie reviews, you better start writing a check, Brian. We owe this as money, man.

Uh, the guest. Oh, the guest. We were... Yeah! We covered this one too, with mother. With mother. Uh, it was captivating,

extreme, and hugely fascinating. Uh, a simplistic yet overly stylized a sensible, suspenseful thriller that carried a gruevy 80s soundtrack, which enhanced the proceedings greatly, moved along in a nice pace, and didn't even shy away from the violent nature once it was time to reveal it. Dan Stevens, who I believe I'm a fan of now, put in a cool as-a-cumbar performance that was both fun and terrifying to witness.

He carried the film like a pro, and he has continued to be in his rising career. I can see why this film has received so much ground-baking praise over the years as it's slowly grown to occult status among other greats of the genre. The guest certainly deserves the Turnedown Service complete with Mint, rating 7.5 out of 10 with the quips in there too. Awesome. Do you guys remember how we rated this one? That's about where we were all at, right?

Yeah. Like we were all right in there. We tend to do that. 31 days of horridon Number 11 We got more folks Wow Unsurprisingly

Directing Dynamo James Wan Does it again Because the Conjuring 2 Yes He better not shit on this movie man I doubt it It's an intelligent

sophisticated and chilling haunted house throwback That showcases enigmatic storytelling along with its terror it empathetically appreciated it's empathetically appreciated that Juan sets his stage building the atmosphere

an overall freaky factor to an all-time high before delivering scares that are the most nerve-wracking overall freaky delivering scares that are all the more nerve-wracking I'm sorry

going that extra mile truly paid off in many ways because these are some of the best shots in camera work I've ever seen ever. This is the kind of film that only reminds us that horror can be

as artistic and presentation as any other genre without sacrificing identity or entertainment. It's the total package of thrills and chills. Rating 9.5 out of 10.

I'd not agree with you more. That was awesome. Right on, brother. That's exactly yes, yes, yes. Dude, Marcus. You were making me nervous, man. I thought he was going to give it a bad review or something.

Oh, no, that's my favorite modern horror movie, man. that one was awesome. Yeah, it's up there. Yeah. That's it for Marcus Will Turner. Thank you, dude. Wow.

Those are some amazing reviews. We've got to get this guy on the show. No kidding. Marcus, if you're listening, man, shoot us an email. And if a certain somebody listening ever gets our new fucking artwork together for us. I think a T-shirt's in order. Yeah. And if you don't, that's okay, too.

we'll figure something out we'll just keep going with our sons of anarchy this logo but we appreciate you helping us out with the logo regarding venom oh oh here we go Kevin Nez

I was really one I haven't okay so I'm not a big All right I'm gonna go step away I gotta go take a shit real quick I haven't heard what Kevin Des said about this look but I was so Oh I have to hear it

I figured it might be I don't know what you guys were watching, but this one was Rockooch. Oh, and the second after-credit scene gets a 10 into the Spider-Verse is going to be hell of good. Great. So it is. It had nothing to do with the movie, Nez. Sarah Grantham disagreed and said, and a lot of people disagree as well. Yeah, right on, Sarah.

I don't know who Sarah is, but right on. Keep listening. Fuck you, Nez. You're full of shit. It's not a bad movie. fun. The special effects were fun to watch. Yes, that final fight scene at the end was sucked because you couldn't tell one venom from the other. But other than that, Tom Hardy took it away.

Nez, dude, you're smoking crack. Dude, from somebody who was pissed off because Rampage didn't follow the original story. You know what? I knew he was going to hate venom. And the very next day, though, I heard Nez talking about what was the one that we saw that was so stupid corny about the uh that they made 17 million sequels to brian that margot kidder was in it doing some weird dance moves with josh brolin or something like that and oh naked ballet or something

like that and oh you throw me off now with the naked ballet you know what i'm talking about nests what is it basically nes says if it was me was made, no, here's a quote, direct quote from Nez, hold on, I'm calling him out. If it was made between 1978 and 1986, it's hell-a-good. If it was made from 1987 on, it's hell

of trash. Quote, Kevin Nez. All right, move on. Because he, that was before he formed his opinion on how movies should be, and now if they're not made to his standard. Oh, my God. What was that shit with Marco Kidder in it? He was

was just talking about it on his podcast last week. Margot Kidder and some naked dancing ballet. I don't... Yeah. She was like stretching and shit like that. She had these leg warmers on. Guys, somebody helped me out here.

The house is like up in New Jersey and the windows look like eyes. And people go up there all the time and look at the house. Did you write this movie yourself or something? They've made 17 billion sequels. And they've all. Um, um, um, um, Amityville? Thank you.

Oh, L2. Thank you. Fucking, is. Jesus Christ. He said that movie was, it was a masterpiece.

Yeah, that was making it more credit than it deserves. The scariest thing that was the flies trying to come in the window. Come on, Naz. You know what? No, I'm done.

I'm done. I'm going to, I'm like, I'm like, yay now. I'm at less you'll finish. Yeah, that's funny, man. Let's see. Regarding the body,

the first Into the dark installment on Hulu, Eddie Ramirez saw it earlier this week and says, eh. Yeah, kind of there with you. Darren Wilson

says halfway through Sadlock. Oh, yeah. Listen to the new show. cool. Happy to hear the John Wayne and McCarthyism Hollywood

blacklist stuff get brought up. Nice episode, guys. All right. Well, I thank you. Appreciate the comments, man. Take zero credit for that because I don't know what fucking thing about it. Regarding the new

Pet Cemetery, Josh Youngblood says, I don't know, man. I don't like hearing Judd's line not being said by Herman Monster. Okay Fair enough In the group page Samantha Bean shared a video for the upcoming show

Good Omens You have to check out the posting For the new Halloween picture from Nez I'm questioning the decision They're taking this in Okay Who's seen this yet Brian Uh

Now I got to pull it up Yeah dude Michael Michael in the background and then Jamie Lee doing the dance. What? Oh, yeah. The true lies dance. Oh, okay. Gene Turner says true lies me's Halloween.

Ha ha. Thomas Perriani says, at least they aren't siblings anymore, so this isn't 110% creepy. Yeah. That would have been really weird. Yeah. Worked in Star Wars. Regarding the Umbrella Academy. Michael Green God.

Michael, Michael, Michael, Green God. Michael Green God. Hey, thanks for listening to the show, God. That's your official name from now on. Michael Green says, God, I hope this is as good as the comics was. As the comic was. It's like Doom Patrol when it hits the stride just right.

Hmm. Thomas Mariani says, uh, Lance Langford assists us again on the intro for our newest episode about children's horror films covering Monster Squad and Ernest Scared Stupid. Yeah. Double Edge, Double Bill, new episode alert. We're taking a gander at Children's Horror's Film with a double feature of Monster Squad

and Ernest Scared Stupid featuring special guest, Casey Gerard. Scott Crawford says, I just watched Ernest Scared Stupid last night. I love that movie. I do too. That makes two of us. Lisa Cole says Monster Squad, best ever. Wolfman has nards. Oh.

That was great. And regarding our first session, our first season happened Leonard retrospective, we were thrilled to get some very special feedback from Jeff Pope. What? Who plays Chubb in season one? All right. Thanks, Jeff. He says, thanks for the kind words and great show. Casey Lansdale sent it to me.

Cool. Robert Prude Home Jr. says, love this show. it was so sad to see it in. Actor Brian Harrison Max as two of my favorite authors, as well as two very incredible people. At Joe Lansdale and at Casey Lansdale

were interviewed by the Horror Returns Podcast for a bonus episode. Give it a listen. Nice. Bill Gabriel says, I cannot believe they canceled it. Joe R. Lansdale is a Mark Twain of every genre he threw his hat in. If you wanted to scare

you, he'd scare the crap out of you. If you wanted you to laugh at the craziness of his imagination. You would be reading his drive-in series. His voice is an original. Nice. Speaking of a friend of the show, Joe Lansdale, guys.

Y'all heard the rumors about the new creep show series that's coming out. Oh, that's coming to shutter? Yeah. Yep. So... Joe going to be on it? You know what?

I think there's already been an episode written by Stephen King an episode written by his son Joe Hill and an episode written by our good friend Joe Lansdale. Whoa, that's fucking crazy, man. I cannot believe that we talk to these people. They're like going on our show to do this. Dumbass little podcast that we got going on. It's Maine and Steam.

And I love you guys. And thank you for everybody. There's been people retweeting and liking since we posted the show. Thank you for everybody getting the show out there. Appreciate it. Yeah, I'm going to have to do a better job of editing that next one. Shit. Your editing was great, dude.

Nothing to worry about. We'll put some cooler stuff in the second one. You guys keep on listening. Hey, and thanks for listening to the show, guys. Especially Chubb. That's it for listener feedback this week. Thank you to Marcus Will Turner for filling up half of our feedback section and giving us all those great reviews. You guys can check us out at DeHore Returns at gmail.com or any of the social medias.

Join our Facebook group page where we have all kinds of great information, a bunch of really cool pictures, some funny fucking people, really some of the best guys that I've ever had the pleasure of talking to. Um, and we saw the contest going. We got a new design coming on the, uh, on the horror returns t-shirt. I haven't seen it yet. It's not even done. So it's that special. Go leave an iTunes review, preferably five stars, and you can get one before they are made.

Win them before you can buy them, folks. Get some on the horror returns. That's it. All right, man. We appreciate, uh, appreciate, uh, all the feedback from everybody. And, uh, Phil, we can, we can, we can, couldn't do the feedback without you man you're Mr. Feedback here brother

got me stumbling all over myself I do what I can sorry Marcus so I fucked up any of your reviews ah no hell no alright so now it's time if you guys are ready it's time for our featured attractions you are ready to go yeah yes sir all right let's check in for the night

wait wait wait wait wait okay now I'm ready now we're ready now let's go grab our key walk down to our room and check in for the night. It's going to be bad times at the El Royale, as well as 2003's Identity. We'll start with the older movie as we do, Identity.

Trivia is directed by James Mangold. Phil, does that ring a bell to you? James Mangold. James Mangold. But I'm not a behind-the-scenes guy, man. I'm terrible with names. Well, dude, for you, it should mean a lot because he directed last year's Logan. Oh, awesome.

Yeah. Okay, cool. He also directed the remake of 310 to Yuma, Brian. I don't know with Christian Bell and... Yep. You got it? Gladiator guy. All right, so we got a great director on board.

No doubt about that, right? So let's check out the credits of the writer. Michael Cooney Does that name Reg a Bell, Brian? Only because I've seen this Piece of Shit movie before. And what piece of shit movie is that?

That would be Jack Frost 2 Revenge of the Mutant Kill a Snowman. Oh boy. Wow. That's got Shark Nato written all over it. Safe to say this review could go one of two ways, right

guys? Yeah. It was a fair. to say with that director and that writer, so can John Cusack bring it back from the dead? We're gonna find out

now this is interesting, this is kind of funny play on words here. Ray Leota's character was asked where was he headed with the con that he was, that he brought with him. His reply was Carson City.

Well, ironically, this is a stretch. to call this trivia. Why the fuck did I even read the shit? John Cusack was in Con Air where the cons

took over the plane and it was headed to Carson City. Holy shit! We've come full circle. Somebody was stoned to come up with that one. God damn it.

I hope this next one's better. The song the prisoner starts to sing as he has led to the bathroom is, Stripes. A prison song by Johnny Cash.

This is kind of sad. He died one year after the film's release. All right. So, Identity. Who wants to go first? I'll go on this one. It's got a hell of a cast, man. Oh, shit.

I remember, I think I'd only seen this one once before, when it first came out. And I always really remembered it sort of stuck with me because it was a cool twist at the end and I really enjoyed it. On rewatch, I still loved it.

Man, this movie was fucking great. Yeah, dude. It was classic. I love John Cusack in everything that he did in this movie. Ray Leota, I always love that guy. I thought everybody did a really great job. And it's got some really cool

special effects particularly Gary Busey's kid what's his name? I just thought he was called a prisoner right or did he have a name? Jake Bucy Jake Bucy yeah

so Jake Bucy when he gets killed in this one I think they built like some giant like life size replica of him to stick a baseball bat down no shit yeah I vaguely remember seeing and it's nothing that hasn't been recent

but I vaguely remember seeing something about that on some sort of behind the scenes thing for this movie. And it was a pretty cool prop you know, to have a big dead Jake Busey. Right. Not to be confused with Gary Bucy, right? Yeah, well, who's been dead for decades. He's still alive, isn't he?

Yeah, but he's on so many he's on so many drugs, who knows. He's fucking awesome. Yeah, I, I just really enjoyed the acting. I really enjoy the twist at the end of the movie, which you could probably see coming if you really pay attention to it. It's got kind of a sixth

sense feel to me without quite all the production. I thought it was great, man. I really enjoyed myself. Yeah, this movie does have a great cast, and even though he's been in a lot of stuff, I always associate Pruitt Taylor Vince, the guy

that plays the killer. Sure. I always associate him with this movie. And of course, yeah, with the eyes. He always does the thing with the eyes. Me too. Yeah, great cast.

And I remember when I first watched this back before I was even really, you know, going on the internet, reading stuff about movies. That was a good time to not get spoiled because I did not know where this movie was going until the twist happens.

And I remember just being amazed. And yeah, I loved everything. John Cusack was doing Ray Leo is good I'm not a big fan of Amanda Pete And I think anything

So Well Not even Coyote Ugly Was she in that? I think she was Wasn't Wasn't she the Wasn't she the bitch

In saving Silverman? Yeah I know she was in that Yeah But I think everybody Did Okay And it John Hawks was good

Oh he's amazing As always Rebecca de Mornay, she was looking kind of good in this. I don't know if it was the red. Yeah, I think it was the red hair. Yeah. Oh, I'm sorry.

It's not Amanda Pete. It's Piper Paribu. Oh, okay. Never mind. Fuck with you. Yeah. You guys are giving it a hell. But I really, really love that.

The kills were in this were pretty good. And then the twist. twist that it was all in this this guy's mind and basically these personalities were just killing each other off I thought was just a really

good like twist for this movie and but it but honestly it does kind of hurt the movie from me on rewatch I still love it but it's a little bit different knowing knowing what's going to happen to twist yeah it doesn't have the same impact

and then the the the final killer. What did you, what did you guys think about that one? I don't know if I was super happy that that's who it was. Well, he was pretty strong to be able to lift that baseball bat. That's for sure. Yeah. Although I mean, considering it was all on his head, I imagine he could do all. I guess, I guess. I guess. I guess. The kid was kind of, I don't know, he was kind of menacing a little bit, especially that I thought the final scene he looked really kind of creepy the way he was just standing over her and he had to add a garden tool

little, little Damien Jr., huh? Yeah. Yeah. Well, maybe that was you know, the real him when he started creating all these multiple personalities when whatever trauma happened in his life. And the real him is a killer. Yeah, I had seen this movie once before. I didn't I didn't really remember the exact ending. I'm glad I re-watched it.

It was one of those movies that once I started getting into it, I kind of took my cell phone and moved it to the other side of the room, which is always a really, really good sign because that means I'm super getting into a movie. Yeah. I'll say that the cast

is fucking brilliant. Like, Nez is always talking about hella good. This is fucking hell of cast, man. I mean, holy shit. shit. And that doesn't always work. It doesn't always work, but on this one, I thought it worked perfectly.

Oh, yeah, absolutely. And I fucking love Cusack's character. I thought he really took charge, and he was kind of like, you were able to see everything through him, I think, that was going on. As far as Amanda Pete, I'm with you guys, I mean, I'm like a huge fan of hers, but she looked super hot in this movie. I mean, she was quite attractive. I did not mind looking at her,

and I definitely didn't mind looking at Rebecca DeMorne either. That's just my opinion, guys. Yeah. I haven't seen Rebecca DeMorne in a while, but I bet she's still smoking hot. Oh, she is. I don't know. Maybe it's the oldest she's getting.

I'm just kind of like, that's which way I'll be going. I don't know about Amanda P. Always had a thing for her. So is she still the hand, that rocks the cradle or what? Rock something for me. Yeah. There's something.

I guess you rock something for you. Ray Liotta, I mean, what, I'm done. We need to say no more about him, right? I mean, he's proven himself over the years. John Hawks, when this movie came out, nobody even knew who the fuck he was. And look at him now, dude.

Look at all the great films he's been in, all the great roles that he's done. Alfred Molina, he's up there. He's like Academy Award level actor. John C. McGinley, for what he did in this movie, I mean, he pulled it off perfectly. He's always just such a great character actor to see in there. And I really liked him in this one because usually he plays like an asshole in the movies.

True, true. And this was different. Yeah. Showed a little bit of range, didn't it? it. Just a really well-written movie. Well, yeah, but now you're going to get into my not-so-cool part of it, because, I mean, I loved, I enjoyed watching every bit of the movie. I love the cast in it.

For what it was, the twist was cool. I mean, good enough, I guess. It was fun to watch. But maybe it was just me, but I felt a little bit cheated with the way that they ended it, because I thought this was something that was really going on, like in the past or something like that, it was going to come back to have something to do with the story of this prisoner. But I don't know. For me personally, I was just a little disappointed. It felt a little, just a tiny little bit like a cheat, that it was like all going on inside one person's head and that it wasn't real.

You know, I know I'm kind of like, you know, picking away at it a little bit when I probably shouldn't be because it was a great film. Well executed, well directed, very well acted. Don't get me wrong. I'm going to give it a high rating. It was a fun movie to watch. But I don't know. To me, it felt like it was maybe like one twist too many there at the end.

Just my opinion. I can see that. And I can see how that would be a cheap. It's kind of like a dream sequence, you know. It's the cop-out for when you don't have an answer for that storyline. But I feel like they could have gone that. route where this could have been something in the in the past and and made it a very coherent storyline and that's just not the way that they chose to do it so right which is cool maybe they

used the cop out thing but they didn't use it as a cop out they did it well agreed yeah don't get me wrong i mean it was a it was a fun movie um would i watch it again i'd fucking go watch it right now i mean seriously i'm i'm at my son's uh apartment because i've been moving him all weekend and when we're done recording, if they want to see identity, him and his buddies, I'm in, you know?

I mean, it's definitely a good movie. It's definitely has some rewatchability. I'm with Brian in that, you know, once you kind of know how it's going to end, it's probably not going to have the same impact again the next time you see it.

But, you know, I can definitely understand why Mangold got these other big movies to do later, for sure. Yeah. You know? um scores

course yeah uh i'm gonna say i agree with you on the rewatch ability thing and uh that's really what drops it the most for me because i was just thinking about what i go watch it again and maybe if i was watching it was somebody who hasn't seen it or like my wife didn't watch it with me last time so if she wanted to jump in i'd totally watch it again but other than that i think i'm okay putting it on the shelf for another 10 years I think it was a great movie, though. I'm going to give it a seven and a half.

Nice. It was almost going to be an eight, except I thought about the whole rewatchability thing. Right. I'm right there with you. I'm going to give it a seven and a half. I love the cast. I love the story.

I give it that little extra half for Rebecca de Mornay. Yeah. So hot. Wow. Here we go, guys. Y'all ready? Same thing? Take you again.

seven and a half yep you got it seven and a half it's a good movie it really is it's a really good movie man either we we're way too good at this or uh i think we're just too good at this well maybe maybe maybe the next film will be more polarizing right probably yeah i would have to guess all right or maybe not shit well we're gonna find out because uh we're moving on to Bad Times at the El Royale. Director and writer was Drew Goddard, also known for Cabin in the Woods and the Martian. Not to mention my favorite Netflix series, right, Brian?

Mm-hmm. And that is Daredevil. Oh, sorry. Okay. Russell Crow was originally cast. He eventually dropped out and was replaced by John Hamm. I don't think that would have made a difference. do you all? Uh, no, not at all. Oh, Russell? Oh, no. I'm not a big Russell Crow fan. Um, my wife isn't either. And here's a fun piece of trivia. She fucking hates him.

She's everything he's in. She's like, he always plays an asshole. He always plays a dick, a cox up. Yes. A.J. hates him. What about the theater? Yeah. Uh, you know what? And we've seen that. She and I have seen that movie at least twice. I really like. She still doesn't. He doesn't like him. She just does, for whatever reason, she hates him. I really liked him in the, I really liked him in, me and my wife just watched it recently, the Cinderella where he played the boxer. Oh, the Cinderella man, yeah. Dude, I love that too, man, I love him.

That's just it. He's one of my favorite actors, and she hates him, but the funny trivia, and I guess this is where karma comes in, her birthday and his birthday, and I mean day, month, and year, is literally exactly the same. Uh-oh. So maybe there's something weird going on there, but anyway. Maybe she watched the mummy. Who knows?

Did she watch the mummy? Uh, I don't even remember that one. Wasn't he Dr. Jekyll or Mr. Hyde? Oh, yeah. Oh, God. Okay, moving on, the El Royale is based off the famous Cal Nevada resort and casino

that was once owned by the one and only Frank Sinatra. That makes sense. So it is a real place? It's a real place. Godard's process of selling the spec was under heavy secrecy, with the script only going to top studio execs. The potential buyers had to read it off of a tablet

and then return it when done. So they kept this one under big secrecy. Bad times at the El Royale. Philip, you went first. Brian, you want to, you want to, to chime in man yeah um i actually like this i don't loved it um i thought the cast was good i was i was intrigued by the story but this movie is long this movie is like almost two hours long and there were times when i was just kind of sitting in my chair just kind of bored a little bit but then something

would happen because like I said I like the characters in it especially um I really like John Hamm in it I can't see Russell Crow in this movie playing that role that's true the Giant Ham is is way more charismatic yeah um I actually also like Dakota Johnson um not not not that she's a bad actress I think just the couple movies I've seen her in I'm just not impressed. Uh, she just got stuck in that 50 Shades thing. She's a better actress than she,

than people know. Um, different kind of role for Chris Hemsworth. Yeah. And he had a weird, I don't know. I don't know. Okay,

maybe it's just me, but was his accent kind of, it kind of reminded me of Bill Murray and CAC. I don't know. It's kind of weird. Uh, it could have been a bunch of different.

things, man. He was doing all kinds of things super fucking weird in this movie. But I guess that was the point of his character. You know, the, I don't think I'm giving anything away. The cult leader or whatever. Yeah, I think you get that in the trailer. Yeah, walking around with the shirt off.

He's got his, like, fucking shoulder blades pinched way back, and he's leaning way back. The whole movie, it's weird. Well, y'all know he lost 30 pounds for this role, from Thor from the new Avengers movie. Do you hear about that? He looks a lot smaller. Right? He still

looks big. He still could kick my ass, that's for sure. Oh, yeah. I mean, he's super fucking swole for Thor, though. Yeah. He thought James McElvoy had a good personal trainer. This fucking guy. No shit. This is this a fucking guy, huh?

But, yeah, overall, I think what really did it was the cast. I think they played the characters really good. I like Jeff Bridges too I like his uh his priest character because you I mean you know he's not a priest

I mean you get that from the trailer but the trailer sure you know and I what was the character's name that I really like because I knew there was more to him Miles the character Miles he's the oh the guy that works at the hotel

the bell pop so to speak yeah yeah yeah he was interesting. He was probably the most interesting character, I think. Yeah, because I was, I really wanted, I mean, there's some things that they didn't explain in this movie that I kind of wanted to know more about, but he was really intriguing to me, and I

wanted to know more about what was going on with him as the movie was going, and they kind of gave me that, so, but yeah, overall, overall, I liked the movie. Wanted to love it, but I just liked it. That's cool, man. Yeah. Yeah, I'm

there with you. I was I wanted to like this one more than I did. I didn't hate it. But with the cast that they had and the Tarantino-esque thing that they were trying to do, obviously Tarantino-S trying to thing. I mean, you're going to hear that over and over and over. They had all the time jumps and all this stuff.

Everybody's very mysterious. They're their own little quirky characters. They have all their own stories. Some of them play a bigger part than others. Jeff Bridges is real big. and I love it. I love Jeff Bridges. That guy,

since he played the dude, can do pretty much no wrong for me. Mm-hmm. But I do feel like it got a little long, and maybe with some of the flashback sequences. We're going to disagree, man. I love it. I love it when we do,

so that's awesome, dude. See, some of those flashback sequences kind of took me out of what was happening. Not at all. Not even remotely, dude. I can't wait to talk. Go ahead. There were at least three or four moments in the movie where I almost got a little bit bored.

Wow! Yeah, dude. I'm not saying I hated the movie. I still really enjoyed it. I thought the actors did a great job, and maybe it just could have been a little bit different. And I was wondering about this whole hotel thing, because there's a line down the middle of it, where half of it is Nevada and half of it is California. but

it doesn't really come and play in the movie at all like they don't use it to their advantage I don't know how they would use it but yeah I see what you're saying

and another thing real quick that I didn't bring up I really enjoyed the music in there in this movie but there was a couple singing moments that I could have did without I think there was

yeah you guys maybe a little much but I really really loved the music in here. It's just there was a couple, like, don't sing again. Stop. And then it started happening again. So. Yeah. It was, uh, it was, it was, it was a cool attempt. Um, it may, it may turn into some kind of cult thing later, but it's never going to be, um, the classic that they intended it to be it. You know, wow. It was, it was really supposed to be very pulp fictiony is what I think,

but they were shooting. Oh, he's not even pretend. No, he's not trying to be any. He's not trying to be free to-low? Yes, he is. Damn, dude. Wow. Well, we saw this thing totally differently, man.

Wow. Wow, okay, so there we go. That's awesome. I love it. No, I love it when this happens. I mean, this is what may, this is why we do this. Yeah. I love what you is here.

I thought it was just okay. Wow. Okay, well. I thought it was going to be just okay. Well, no, I thought better than that, right? Brian, you tell me, how was I going into this movie? Did I expect something good? Oh, yeah.

You were, this was supposed to take place in front of Venom. So this was the movie you were championed in. I would go back and watch Venom before I want to go back and watch this. Ouch, okay. So let me tell you what. Brian, considering what I thought Venom was going to be, this wouldn't have to be at a very high bar, though, right? No.

Okay, so I'm fucking sold on Drew Goddard at this point, because Cabin in the Woods, the Daredevil Show, what else did we talk about that he had done? He wrote the screenplay for the Matt Demon movie. What was it? The Martian? Yeah, it's a masterpiece, right?

Yeah, Marsham is really good. Dude, I'm on the Drew Goddard bandwagon. Top five, period. I don't care what else comes out. I don't care how good Suspira is or anything else between now and the end of the year. I fucking guarantee you this is absolutely positively

going to be on my top five of the year. And it's up there with Hereditary. And, you know, Hereditary is one of those that when I watched it, I didn't give it quite as high a score as I probably should have. And a lot of that was probably because of that stupid-ass laughing madman that I was telling you guys about that was in the third. Oh, yeah.

All the least laughable moments of the movie. Because it was a super tent, super quiet movie. It was obviously nervous giggling from like a schoolgirl idiot, you know? That was fucking weird. At this point, Hereditary is definitely my number one of the year. at this point, at this point. Well, actually, do... I'll tell you this.

Bad times of the Earl Royale, for me, is a modern masterpiece. I fucking loved it. I loved everything about it. I love the setup. I love the backstories. I love the characters. Nobody put in a bad performance in this movie. And when they did the twist of who Thor really was,

Holy shit I didn't Did you guys see that coming Let's not say anything But did you guys know who Thor really was going to be No That's what sold me That moment

And when they went back And they showed how he developed What he developed That's it I fucking fell asleep during that part Dude that was my favorite part of the movie I love it That's why I'm not giving it enough credit

I don't know Well, I'm going to tell you what. And AJ said this too, because she went with me to see it. And she was like, eh, it was okay. And I said, you didn't just love it? She said, nah, it was just okay, kind of like you guys. But I said, so it was written and directed by the same guy that did Cabin in the Woods. And she turned real fast and looked at me.

She said, that movie that you dragged me to see with all the fucking people and all the weird shit? And like they picked the numbers on the board. and they had all the weird horror characters and all that. I said, yeah. She said, I totally understand why you love this movie. His signature was all over this. Because even though it wasn't like supernatural and there weren't monsters and it wasn't like a quote-of-quote horror movie,

it definitely had all those same elements to it. It had his signature all over it. And like when they had the little areas that you went in and looked at stuff and, you know, snuck around. And I just thought the writing was just airtight. I mean, this is one of those that just like hereditary. When you go back and you look,

and this is what kind of fucking piss me off about identity, the only thing that messed me up, the writing wasn't airtight. Like there were kind of holes in it. When you go back on retrospect and look at it. This movie, there's not one thing that I challenge either of you guys to tell me a single plot hole

or a single thing that didn't tie into something else or make perfect sense in this movie. I think it was a brilliant film. I think it was perfectly written. I think it was very well acted and I think it had a great cast. Everybody did their job. And let me tell you something, boys.

We're talking about our fucking hall passes. I hate to say that a person that was the main character in 50 Shades of Grey is, I want her on my hall pass. But Dakota Johnson, I am beginning to fall in love with you, my dear. You have an extended hall pass. That's all I got to say now. I forgot it too.

What do you all want to talk about? I really feel like we watched a different movie. Okay. All right. All right. Spoiler alert. Right here. No, no, no.

You haven't even done our scores yet. Oh, alright, right, right, right. Yeah. Who was me? I got to go six, Lance. Ouch. It would have been a, a little bit higher, but like I said, this movie was

like seven hours long. No! There was times when I just kind of... To me, it felt like one hour long. It really... Dude, this fucking movie flew by for me. He did be watched. I don't know. You know what? I love it when this happens. This is why we do the podcast.

I'm super, I'm super confused now. I, uh, yeah, I'm gonna go six and a half. I feel like everybody really put it in their all in this one. and the acting was great. I just, I don't know, man.

There was, there was, maybe it was just because, uh, I, I, I saw it on a Friday afternoon. And I had been just, you know, killing myself all week, so I was tired. And, uh, it, uh, it had a beer at the theater and three quarters of the way through the movie, I was dozing. Well, you know what? Probably not, dude. If, if that's the way, if that's the impression you guys got from it, then it, then it,

then it, then it, let's be honest. It is what it is. Yeah, but now I'm really curious. That's why I'm super excited about our spoiler section, because I need to hear this thing with Chris Hemsworth. I think I missed that whole fucking part. Well, see, okay, so this is the other thing that I loved about this movie, and this is where I'm showing my age.

Because all of our fans and listeners know that you guys are the two young bucks, and I'm the old fuck, right? I love the music. Oh, music was fantastic. I fucking love the music is great. And I'm not, uh, the, uh, the, the chick, I don't even know who the hell she is. Cynthia Arrivo?

She had a beautiful voice. She's played something. I've seen her before. Somewhere. I don't know, man. This movie touched me, man. No, she's British. Oh.

Well, she has one hell of a singing voice, and they pick some great songs for this. Yeah. And I was kind of dreading going in, because there's like two hours and 21-minute runtime, and I fucking hate those long movies. but for me, this movie, to me, this movie felt shorter than some of the hour and a half long movies that we've had to drag through. So I guess at the end of the day, this is going to be, for me, this is this year's Valerian of the city of a thousand planets or whatever.

You fuckers hated and everybody else hated that for some reason touched me in my heart. This was that movie for me this year. Hey, Valerian was a lot of fun, and I will, I'll die on that hill. Well, this movie for me, guys... Well, this movie for me is 9 out of 10. Wow. Just a fantastic movie, man. One of the best of your...

There's no way it's going to fall out of the top five for me. So this is up there with hereditary and unsane. Yes. Wow. Yep, absolutely. Yeah, you just mentioned two of my top five, guaranteed. I don't know what my other two are going to be yet. A star is born.

A star is born kick me in my fucking nuts, man. That movie is emotional and I thought it was amazing. How does that compare to this to you? Two points lower? Whoa. Yeah. Okay. It is what it is.

It is what it is. To each their own, baby, to each their own. Interesting. So at the end of the day, though, we all recommend seeing it. Yes? Yeah. Just me. Yeah, yeah. I think that you have to watch this movie.

You know what I mean? I think just with the cast and with what it was presented with, I feel like it was maybe not up to expectations for me. Okay. But it is a movie you have to watch. I'm going to talk it up to this. I'm 50 years old. This movie took place in the 60s.

So it's the, that's the element. guys? No. Is that the difference? No. Nope. No. Dialogue, man.

You're not going to let me off that easy, huh? They didn't, they tried to make. Are we in spoilers yet? They tried to make a Tarantino movie without Tarantino dialogue. No. It's not a Tarantino movie. Tell me. Not even close.

Fuck you, Philip. Fuck you, man. You're full of shit. When do you all want to go into spoilers and do the fucking spoiler alert? Spoilers because I need, Lance, I need to hear this. So, spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Spoilers. Okay, Chris Townsworth. Who was he? What happened? Fucking cult leader, man.

Well, yeah. Dude, he fucking... What, goddamn it, dude, wouldn't you fall in love with him? I mean, look at your... Dude. Is that why you like this movie? Because he had his shirt off. I didn't expect that.

I was... I was expecting some sort of thing. I was like, what the fuck did I miss? I was like, is this why you love this movie because of Chris Hemsworth with his unbuttoned shirt? He's got a man crush. That's what it is. That's what the problem.

Oh, I see where this podcast is going. Okay. All right. That's cool. It's all good. It's all good. I'm not mad. I'm not mad.

man. No, all kidding aside. All kidding aside, I did not. I'd be impressed, really. Okay, maybe it's because you guys got more out of the trailer than I did. I knew he was a nutcase. I kind of pictured him more as like Brad Pitt's character in California, where he was just like the white trash, you know, like coming to find his girlfriend and stuff

like that. I had no idea he was a cult leader. I got cult leader from the trailer. Yeah, I was thinking, like, Well, you're smarter than I am then, Brian. No, there's a scene in the trailer where he's just kind of, like you said, Philip, the way he's walking with his shoulders and his hands out, and then he's in that field.

He's got all these people following him, yeah. Yeah, I'm like, that is a cult leader if I ever saw one. That was a cool scene. But see, and they did flashbacks during that scene, too. The very last scene in the movie, things are happening. Shit's getting fucking real, and they're like, hang on, let's go for another flashbacks. flashback.

Right. God fucking damn it. Can I watch the movie? Yeah, I get it. I get it, man. I enjoyed the flashbacks, though. I really thought it was kind of fun to see how each character, you know, developed and got to where they were.

And what I really appreciated was the early part of the movie where they would, like, show an entire scene, like a sequence, like this happens, this happens, this happens. And then they would turn it around and show the same exact scene from a different person's perspective. And I don't know. for some reason this movie was just what I needed to see at the exact time I saw it. I really enjoyed it. So that sentence right there

and you're telling me that there's no like Tarantino tie in. Well, I mean, Tarantino is a great Tarantino is a great filmmaker, right? And he does really, really well with weird time jumps and, you know, stuff like that. But I mean, I just thought that this was a completely separate vision.

I didn't think it was like trying to, you know, mimic or ape Tarantino. Well, and, you know, Tarantino doesn't hold a fucking patent on that style of movie. I'm just saying that this was that style of movie, where you do see things from different people perspective. And I thought that that was kind of... Fair enough. Fair enough. That's true.

It was maybe the timing of the flashbacks. I was... Because it pulled me out of it when they went back in the middle of the last scene. Yeah, fair enough. I was just super impressed with how every character owned, or every actor owned their own character. Oh, yeah. Yeah. I just did not

even know this actress that played, what was their name, Darlene? Darlene Sweet. Yeah, I mean, I was just blown away by her performance and her singing. I mean, and like we were saying earlier, I cannot see Russell Crowe in that John Ham roll. I think anybody can play that, although, don't you?

I don't know. I thought he was the biggest fucking asshole when you first meet him. I'm tired. I already got tired of hearing about his accoutrements and whatever he has in his suitcases. And then you go to the room and he's instantly, he's looking for wires and listening devices and recording devices. And I'm like, okay, he completely switched that character for me. I don't know. That fascinated me when he went in the room.

but was looking for the bugs, I was like, what is going on here? Yeah, I think, I think maybe Russell Crow could have done a better job on the, like, FBI agent part of it, maybe. Maybe, yeah? Could not have done a better job on the salesman part of it, because he's really got two characters to play there. True, true. And to be fair, he's not in the movie very long. And that surprised me. I thought he was going to be a longer role.

I was a little disappointed when he got shot. And with that being said, how you said he played two different characters, this is going off the rails here, which we usually do. His name is rumored to be Batman. John Am? Yeah. Oh, that's got a George Clooney sound to it. Yeah, no shit.

That's not, that's like my right. All right. Just asking. I agree. I don't know, man. How did you get? I feel like I don't like John Hamm, but every time I see him and something,

I do like him. You like his performance, yeah. He's talented, man. I've never seen Madman. I haven't either. I've seen a couple of episodes of it, but it was just like too old. Here we go again,

talking about me being the old fart. To me, it was too old-fashioned. Like, too old-timey for me. Like, that's why I couldn't keep up with it. And yet I love this, so go figure. man. I also like the sister of Dakota. Oh my god

she was awesome. Yeah. Yeah dude. I love the way she she had more like feelings towards Thor getting shot than she did her own sister. Yeah. See this is why I don't understand

why you guys didn't just love this movie. Because it was long. It was tight up a little bit. Yeah. Tighten it up or maybe, like, I hate to say throw some better dialogue in it because I think the dialogue was really good.

They just maybe, I don't know. It just, it didn't, there was something in it. And I, that's my problem with this. I don't know specifically what it is that took me out of this movie. I have no idea. But there's something. Something was there that made it go,

eh. You know? Safe to say this is a movie that I might watch next week because I'm like, oh, fuck, I can't wait to see it again. And I may be like, eh, eh, it's six and a half, seven, you know. See, and I feel like I need to give it another chance, too. Like, I would really like to see it again at some point. Sometimes it's just the environment and the mindset, but I don't think so.

I don't think so, man. I'm thinking back on everything that happened from the beginning. and that's what I loved about it is because like when you guys were talking about where he was getting the bugs out of his room I'm like what in the fuck is going on this is weird it's like bizarre like what what's the center

and in my opinion go ahead I just was going to say I really wanted to know why he was there let me ask you a question when you guys think back about this movie and they're talking about the film and all this shit and like oh well we we're not going to name who it is and da-da-da-da.

Are we all in agreement that that was probably John F. Kennedy? Yes. That's the first thing that popped in my head. Okay. All right. Just checking. So see, I thought that was very clever. I mean, I really enjoyed the movie, guys. I'm not changing my score. I mean, I know you guys are kind of like,

it was fair to Midland, but it was more good than bad. But to me, this was a top five movie. I don't think that's going to change. Well, although I have a... I haven't seen First Man yet, and I really want to go see that this week. Yeah, I've heard good things about that one. I'm going to tell you right now, dude, a Star is going to end up on my top five.

Not me. Nah, news. I mean, I liked it, but I didn't love it. It had a lot of stuff that was real personal to me. Fair enough, man, fair enough. I think maybe that's part of what got me. Well, yeah, that's movies. That's why we, ah, that's why I love doing this with you guys every week, man.

I've said it like seven times already this episode, but holy fuck. If it wasn't for you guys, man, and what we do every week, I've got to go fucking crazy. This is why we do what we do. I love talking this stuff with you guys. I absolutely fucking adore it when we disagree on stuff, you know? Yeah. We get to see things from other people's perspective and, you know, maybe even rethink our original stance on certain things. And there's a lot of times where I get a little concerned.

I'm like, man, we think like, about the same shit on almost every movie. Until every once in a while, Lance goes off the deep end on something. Which, hey, I don't know, maybe we're wrong today because people seem to love this movie, you know? Do they? Is it getting good reviews or what?

That's what I hear, man. I mean, the buzz is pretty good. And I just, I don't like it maybe as much as everybody else does. Well, that's why I go way out of my way. That's why I enjoy reviewing these movies when they first come out, guys, because I literally go way out of my way not to read, not to hear,

not to get other people's opinions on stuff. And that's going to be tough for next week because that particular movie that we're going to talk about next week with our murderers row of guests, so many people have already seen it. And there's been a lot of extremely good reviews and some ma' reviews.

Oh, is that a Halloween episode? Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we couldn't help but hear some of that because like everybody's talking about this thing. Yeah, I don't like that they... I know that it didn't get released, but I don't know. It was just too many, like, film festivals right before the release date. Right.

And like, none of these people had an embargo or nothing. It was just kind of like, oh, come watch an early screening and then say whatever you want. Well, but that is a good sign, though, that they had confidence in their product, right? well yeah I guess now it's got a lot of buzz coming out man they couldn't have bought better advertising personally I hope that I fucking hate it you know what I mean

I hope it's awesome I'm sure it will be from what I'm here and I'm sure it's going to be good yeah but I wasn't the world's hugest fan of the original Halloween were you guys yeah one of the first like slasher movies I can remember watching

or being a like to watch. I didn't appreciate it when I was younger. Yeah, you've kind of grown up since then, huh? Yeah. Because, I mean, it's, you know, it's a little slow moving. And, you know, when it gets toaded as one of the scariest movies of all time, and you're going back

as a kid. Kiss of death. This guy with the fucking mask, is scary? Right. It kills like fucking four people. Well, speaking of slow as hell and boring and blah, blah, blah. What else do you guys want to say about bad times? Because y'all obviously were more bothered by the two and a half hour runtime than I was.

I think that was it. Maybe it was just, it was a little long, maybe it dragged hair. I do like that they wrapped everything up. I thought that was good. Everybody did a kick-ass job, man. The acting, you can't fault that really anywhere in the whole movie. was fucking kickass and he was only in the movie for a few minutes. Right.

All right. So we got our final thoughts in, right? Yeah. I think so. Cool. So we all recommend it. Me more than y'all, but hell, let me ask you guys this.

If we were all like hanging out together and maybe drinking a few beers or Brian maybe getting green or whatever, would you guys be willing to sit down and sit through this whole movie again? Of course. I'd love to watch it again. I don't know if it's hanging out with your friends and talking during the movie kind of a thing. Because I feel like it's one where you probably have to pay attention to it. Fair enough. It's got a cool groove in its own right. It's very stylistic. True. And they do a pretty good job of that.

All right. Cool. So what about you, Brian? Yeah, I agree with what Phillips said. like I said, it just was the runtime. It just, I just think maybe if they took like at least 20, 30 minutes off the movie, I think it would have just kind of tightened everything up and everything would have just ran a little bit more smoothly for me because I had no problem with the story or the characters.

And shit, we didn't even talk about it was because I really was intrigued by this guy. It's at the end when he said he killed 123 people. Oh, Miles. Yeah. The concierge, I believe that's what you call it. That was cool. I thought that that was a really cool reveal, though.

Yeah, that was nice. They give you that at the end, and he just goes fucking ape shit on these guys. He's like, all right, I'm done. Bam, bam, bam, bam. Man. That was pretty cool. I thought it was a good ending. I think overall, I think this could be one of those movies where when you rewatch it more

than once, you might get something different out of it. True. So, yeah. It might be one that's really easy to watch multiple times, just because the performances are done so well. Yeah.

Well, you guys have to be ready to watch it again right now. Let's do it. All right, cool. So, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode The Horror Returns. We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas.

You can reach us at our email address, which is the horror returns at gmail.com. And now I'm going to turn it over to Brian for a very special advertisement of our, how to get in touch with us through Twitter. Brian, what's going on with Twitter these days, man? Oh, Twitter is going good. Yeah, it's a very useful social media tool. And I would wish, yeah, I would wish more people would get a hold of us through Twitter or Instagram

We don't just have a Facebook or a Facebook group We're also on Twitter At the Horror underscore returns is our Twitter and just message us or whatever

Might even mention you on the show Yeah, you guys have a suggestion for what you want us to do on the show I mean our schedule is gets a little booked up but I'm sure we can fit stuff in So let us know man

We're going to be the most interactive podcast around. That's a good that's a good old goal to have, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Just send us some stuff, man. We'll get with you. We'll make it happen. Hell, come on the show. Let us know what's up. So Brian,

so we all, if you're listening, you already know we're doing Hap and Leonard and we have three interviews. And we try to do at least one interview a month or so. But what are some of the potential interviews we have coming up, Brian? I believe Jim Mickle

potentially we have Nick Demichie horror fans will know Nick Demichie been in a lot of kick-ass movies especially if you watch Happen Leonard guys and of course Stakeland

What was his name in Stakeland The character, Ryan? Mr. Hey Meester He was the guy basically in Stakeland And as always we got some more interviews

that we're keeping under wraps right now, but we got a lot of stuff coming. They're top secret. I'm telling nobody. Well, what we're trying to do here basically is in addition to our regular weekly show,

our goal is to bring you guys more of these retrospectives because we are getting the feedback and people are saying they enjoy them. So there will be more TV retrospectives. They'll definitely be We had a kid show coming up next week, Brian. Am I right?

Kids Halloween episodes. Is it Medea? No, I thought it's Medea forever. Like every Medea movie from start to finish, man. Is that a movie? Fuck you, man. I thought we were doing every one. Are you changing your mind?

Medea, boom, 27. I changed my mind when I got tricked last year. That was, all right. It wasn't an intentional trick. You said goosebumps too, Brian? Goosepumps 2, Haunted Halloween. And you,

listeners will get a review from the children. Nice. That'll be fun because the last time we did one of these kids' shows, my kids were kind of small, and so they didn't talk a whole lot. Logan is still kind of shy. I don't remember.

Is he saying anything? Yeah, they probably did. Izzy's a talker. She'll, she'll, she'll get on a rampage. She's five. You should have, you should have dragged him to Uncle Drew, man. I should have.

Now, Rida, boo, 27? I'm waiting on that one. Yeah, we may be waiting a while. Next week, it's possibly the movie everyone has been most looking forward to this year as we cover the new Halloween movie.

As well as the John Carpenter original Now, I'm not going to be on the show next week, guys. I've got family stuff going on in San Antonio, but Brian, Philip, I know you guys are going to hold the fort down, but guess what? You don't have to do it alone, because we've got a slew of special guests. We've got Jack Falvey, the 4th from binge media.

Uh-huh. A really, really good friend of the show, Pedro. There you go. Pedro Nunez from the K-fabulous Lucha Brothers. And we also have filmmaker and actor Justin Smith. Nice. Awesome. Also, are better known as Cradley Booper.

Cradley Booper. And what was the film that he did earlier in the year? Brian, did you get the chance to see it? I have it. But I've been waiting because I wanted to be more closer because I knew he was having him on and that would be sick for toys. I will have it watched by next episode. I've been waiting.

Me too. And I have seen it. And it was absolutely my cool of the week. I was supposed to watch it on our Chicago trip that I fucking missed. You know what? Chicago, we've always got next year, right? That's true. All right, guys.

And more specifically, Brian. Until the horror returns again, good night.