The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #128: Raiders Of The Lost Ark (1981) & Overlord (2018) (Reupload)

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

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to The Horror Returns. I'm Lance, and with me as always, are my co-host, Philip and also Brian. How's it going, guys? It is going great. It's going good. Is that borat? Is that a barat?

I don't know. Yeah, that's kind of random. Special guest appearance. Why not? Wow. We're honored. Um, all right, cool. Well, fuck.

Let's jump in. I'll start with, uh, I give a little hint to the listeners. We're going to have a very special interview coming up. So, um, I went ahead and binge the show because none of us have seen it. And I've binge, uh, the Purge TV series. Oh. Oh. And I will say, I am pleasantly surprised that,

I enjoyed it as much as I did because I did see the first episode when it first premiered and just never went back to it. I just kind of was like, you know, I'll get to it when I get to it. But knowing that our guests that we were interviewing was in the show, I went ahead and just watched the whole series. And I will say it is a pleasant surprise because the whole purging and killing and everything is kind of like background. And it's more about the characters and the characters.

development and the story and the season happens over one night so that was that was quite a surprise from what I heard previously before the show came out that each episode was going to be a different story

and it's just one continuous story throughout the episode it's 10 episodes so if anybody's able to check it out you can go on the USA Network app and check it out or you know if you know how to find things

it is out there, so. Okay. So does it all take place in one night then? Yeah, one 12-hour purge night. Okay. So it's almost in real time. Yeah, kind of, a little spoiler. The first episode is basically

hours before the purge, kind of leading up to the, you know, right before the siren hits. Okay. And trying to figure out how we've come to this? Yeah. And it takes place, I believe, 10 years after the first purge, the last movie that came out. Oh, okay.

Because they mentioned it in the movie. Or in the show, I mean. And my last thing I'm going to talk about, I rewatch The Cell with Jennifer Lopez. I think this is an underrated movie. Yeah, it definitely is. The visuals, yeah, the visuals are amazing in this movie. It's everything about the dream sequences, the look, the color. the wardrobe is amazing.

And Vincent Donofrio, I think, did an excellent job in it. And yeah, I think it's on, I've watched it on Amazon Prime if anybody wants to check it out. Very, very trippy, right? Yes. That's worth of rewatch. Yeah, the director, Tarsem Singh, is that name familiar to you guys? I've heard of it. I've heard of it.

He's done a lot of movies. Everything he does is real surreal, but he did that short-lived television show Emerald City. Oh, yeah. Span on The Wizard of Eyes. Yeah, I checked out like the first couple episodes. I actually kind of liked it. I just never went back to it. That was Vincent D'Nafrio also.

I heard good things about it. You know what? I loved it. I really enjoyed it, but unfortunately it was, you know, not long for this world. I think it only lasted, what, like 11 episodes or something, but speaking of our interviews, the Welcome to Mercy interview they were talking about that really strange actress Lily Newmark. Yes. Oh, yeah.

She had a pretty big role in it. Oh. Yeah. So, I don't know. It's worth watching. Unfortunately, it's one of those that they canceled it so early that they kind of left it open-ended, which fucking sucked. Oh, and the junkie brother from Haunting of Hillhouse, Brian. Phil, you've seen that now finally.

Haunting of Hillhouse? The Netflix part? Yeah. No, no. I've watched like three minutes of the first episode. All right. Well, that dude that plays the brother that's the junkie, he's got a huge role. Oh, he was the...

I think when you meet him, he has like amnesia or something. Yeah, he's a... Okay. Basically, he's the scarecrow, quote unquote. Okay. So, yeah, good show. Good show. Yeah.

Short-lived. Uh, yeah, I have not... watched much this week guys. Oh, no! You're going to force me to use mine. I've got two that are competing, and I thought for sure one of yours would be one of mine. Well, no, I, uh, oh, well,

we'll talk about Walking Dead later, and I think that that has to be included in there because I did watch the Walking Dead, and I assume that's what you're talking about. Yeah, we're about to talk about it. Not too much later then, as soon as you're done here. Yeah, we have some listening feedback coming about the Walking Dead. Um,

aside from that, I finally got a chance to play Red Dead Redemption. I, uh, bit the bullet and bought the damn game, uh, even though I haven't played a game on Xbox since, uh,

Skyrim. And, uh, since obviously that is my kind of game. How much of the memory does it take up when you load it? Uh, dude, it's like 80 gigs or some shit.

I was like, do I have that much on my Xbox? That's my worry is that, yeah, I want to buy it, but I'm like, damn, what do I have to delete to load this game on here? But that was buying it online, and I may as well have just gone to the goddamn store and bought it because it took forever to download. True enough. Anywho, I've only played, like, a couple of hours of it, and it's fun so far.

It's about like the last one was, but, you know, I was super engrossed in the last one. So, I'm down for it. I think it's a cool game. yeah well my AJ's been out of town all week so it was a highly highly competitive

cool of the week week to say the very least because yeah I probably watched I pulled a Brian man I watched at least 20 movies some old school stuff Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2

all three of the 1980 movies for the podcast but cannonball run two of all this. I should have come over. Yeah, the best the best movie was far and away

Hateful 8. I finally saw that for the first time. Oh, really? I'd watch that again. Awesome movie. It would easily be cool of the week if it weren't for Rick Grimes. I'm sorry.

I fucking loved it. Oh, man, I know Melissa's yelling at me right now, but oh, I love the way they did it, man. And I don't want to say too much because it's only been a week, you know. How much can we say about it, really? Uh, see the show.

Yeah. We may have a special little spoiler alert section on that in listener feedback. I guess you guys can speak on what's about to happen if you guys know already. I don't. I don't know what's about to happen. I know they're starting to mirror the comic books. I know they finally solved the problem. I was worried about who's going to, because Carl's, um,

Carl's a big part of the comic books in his interactions with Negan and stuff but now we know who's going to do that so I don't really want to say too much but I mean if you guys want to we can no I mean I've already posted the big news

so oh true yeah we have posted the big news what's the big news yeah you want to go ahead and say it Lance it's on the website it's on our our group page. Yeah,

there's going to be Rick Grimes movies, but nobody knows if those are going to be prequels or whatever, right, if they're listening. There are going to be movies?

It takes place six years after. Ah. And basically, the big story is what is keeping him from coming back? I can't wait to find out.

Huh. And from what I understand, Maggie is not coming back. Yeah, Yeah, that was her final episode, too. I was listening to The Two Dead Chicks podcast. Wait, what?

I was talking about that. Yeah, she's gone too, man. Talk about a, talk about an uncelebrated leave, huh? That was her final episode? Yeah. Did she, what happened? Did she die? I guess she got pissed off.

At AMC or whatever. She got it, she has a television series coming. But, like, they didn't even, did they do anything to make her leave in the show? Oh, I don't... Good question. Like, how do you know that's her last show? What happened? They had came out and confirmed that she's not returning for this season.

Well, yeah, but I mean, she doesn't have any more left in this season so far? No. That's it. Then that suck? Well, wow. That was anti-climaction. Yeah, her final episode was the big, advertise final episode of Rick Grimes. Yeah.

And they didn't even mention that she's not returned. Is she even in this episode? I can't even remember. Yeah, she was in the, all over the episodes, but I didn't even realize it until somebody told me that, until I heard the two dead chicks talking about it,

that, uh, oh, by the way, that was Maggie's last episode. And now I'm thinking back at the very, very end when they show that six year forward flash forward, she wasn't in that scene. So, uh-oh. and then Carol's got her best Laurie Strode haircut going

you guys noticed that right? Yeah It's just But yeah that Judith Grimes thing That fucking I jumped out of my chair When she showed up man Because that was the same exact scene From the comic book

Except it was Carl So are they gonna Okay here's my question On the flashing forward six years And that's the end of Maggie I mean I guess that they can just Explain her away is this where we're at now?

Did they just reboot the entire series in the middle of an episode? Well, I don't know. The way they were worded is that Lauren Cohen is not done with the show. She's just not coming back for this season. They didn't necessarily say

she'll never come back, so I don't know. Well, you know, I'm not mad at it. If you're going to reboot an entire series, the way to hook people is to do it. right in the middle of an episode, right in the middle of a episode. Yeah, I'm kind of excited about these movies and kind of go off horror. AMC's also doing a Breaking Bad movie. Yeah, I heard about that.

That follows when Jesse leaves after he gets released at the end of the finale spoilers. No, I don't know why anybody wouldn't have seen it, but it's going to take place right when that picks up. Okay. that's going to be cool too I never finished the last season oh sorry no that's fine you never saw the last season of Breaking Bad

I saw like the first half of the last season and I don't know why that I stopped but I just stopped I have no desire to go back to it it's weird well moving on that's cool of the week Brian we get any horror headlines

the only thing I'm going to mention is we talked about that Disney streaming app right it has an official name it's going to be called Disney Plus and it has a bunch of in my opinion a lot of cool shit coming out next year that's I'll get that and that's a guarantee buy right there because you'll get all the original Disney content and plus when the deal goes through the Fox all the Fox content um they're also uh well this news has been out John Fabro's uh Star Wars series the Mandalorian It's coming out next year. I can't wait. Yeah, they're putting a lot of money into that. I believe $100 million into that series. Cool.

I hope there's a generous in there somewhere. Yeah. Well. The Dolorian Wars, right? Yeah. Also confirmed a prequel series to Rogue One starring Diego Luna. Remember, he played Cassian Andor? That's been confirmed.

also on the Marvel side Loki is getting his own series and Tom Hiddleston is confirmed to be as series he died well this is going to be a prequel series because I mean they're

necessary Christ fuck not also yeah not yet confirmed but announced Bucky and Falcon will be getting their own series together that sounds terrible

I'm not as excited anymore. Pick the two worst characters you have. The worst, I don't think they are the worst characters. The Falcon definitely is. What, the Winter Soldier? Well, he's kind of cool. They're weak, man, in my opinion. I just don't, I would fill up on this with Brian.

I don't know. I think it could work. We're going to do a Star Wars spinoff of the guys that clean the bathrooms. between Jedi meetings I don't know there's a lot of story to tell especially in these Bargling Yotta

always takes the biggest shit I don't know I think you guys are wrong You guys That's what it sounds like I was Hey dude I was I was criminally wrong

About haunting of Hillhouse Brian Yeah one of you guys said When we reviewed that trailer for the DC streaming show Titans, that show is badass. I haven't much to yet. It's allegedly

available, so I should probably check it out. It is available. Again, if you know how to find things. Nice. And the only other little bit of news, have you guys heard about this Ryan Johnson?

He's doing a modern day murder mystery movie called Knives Out. It's the cast confirmed, listen to this cast so far. Daniel Craig, Chris Evans, Lekeith Stanfield, Jamie Lee Curtis, Christopher Plummer, Tony Colette, Michael Shannon, Don Johnson, and just announced Jaden Lieberher.

He played Bill in last year's It. Oh, right? Yeah, that's the cast confirmed so far. Wow. I'm a little, I'm a little pissed at Lakeith Stanfield right now. Oh, yeah. I thought that would have been your... Talking to you, I thought that would have been your not cool of the week. I guess it is a not cool of the week. That movie fucking sucked. It started out decent. I was so looking forward to...

Sorry to bother you? Oh. Oh, that thing jumped the shark so fucking fast. Oh, God, I don't even want to talk about it. How was he in it, though? He started out good, but... I really... I've been really enjoying everything he's been in.

Yeah, he had... Thompson were I mean they can't they can't carry a terrible terrible terrible terrible script you know uh man there's there's a few actors that might no nobody could have pulled off that script uh-uh that's or the direction yeah this is gonna be good I did like some Tesla Thompson she was good in it don't get me wrong but um oh man some Valerie Glenn Glenn might as well not even fucking been in it I mean he was terrible I've never seen worse acting from Stephen

Ewing and anything. Oh, wow. I don't know. Whatever. It is what it is. Some people like it, I'm sure. Well, on that note, that is all the news. All right. That being said,

I guess it's trailer part time then, huh? Bring you the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what's the first new trailer? The first one we're going to talk about is a brand new Blumhouse production movie called Cam, which is coming to Netflix.

This is starring Madeline Brewer, Patch DeRoe, and Malora Walters. This is also directed by Daniel Goldharbour. What did you guys think of Cam? So this is like a Cam girl, right? Yeah. Mm-hmm. Okay. Like porn stuff.

Yep. I'm intrigued. I'm intrigued. I want to know what the mystery is. You know, if this is actually a clone maybe that they've got or an alternate dimension or I don't know. That's where it got me. It looks fucking cool to me. Yeah, that's where it pulled me in.

The fact that... Go ahead. Artificial intelligence. Oh, recreated. Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you hit it, Phil. I bet that's what the answer is.

Could be. We're not far from it. It looks super well shot, too. Yeah. I like the colors and everything going on. Yep. Yep. And, uh, yep, next week, November 16th. Oh, wow. Nice.

Netflix. Oh, on Netflix. Maybe somebody's cool of the week. It's a movie, right? It's not a series. It's a movie. So I'll watch it. Oh, yep. Hopefully maybe it would be someone's cool the week and there might be someone's not cool the week. We'll find out.

Or I could be killing rabbits in Red Dead Redemption, one of the two. You know what? I might also, because I think you talk me into going to get the game. I think I'm just going to do it. If you like the last one, it's the same shit. Yep. Something might get deleted

off my Xbox to make room. Go by the goddamn disc, man. It's worth it. Same price, right? Yeah. Yeah. Our final trailer is captive state. And this

is starring Vera Formiga, John Goodman, and actress we just mentioned in Cam, Madeline Brewer. This is directed by... Remember seeing these people in the... Well, except... John Goodman. Yeah.

This is directed by Rupert White. People don't know him. He did... He directed some stuff for the first season of the Exorcist, and he also directed Rise of the Planet of the apes, which was the James Franco one. Mm-hmm. Cool.

Good one. Yeah, this looks pretty good. This looked to me like it might have been in the Cloverfield universe. Yeah, maybe. I don't know what this is about. Aliens, that's all.

I got out of it. I mean, yeah. Some sort of ship. Yeah, and some sort of alien thing at the end that you barely got a glimpse of. Mm-hmm. So I don't know.

I love Vera Famiga. Also love John Goodman. Yeah, great cast. Yeah, so I'll check it out. Yeah. Yep, we'll be there. March 29th next year. Okay, that's theaters, though.

Yes. Those are big names. Yeah. And that is our final trailer. Phil? Don't think we have as much feedback as we did when Marcus was doing the 31 days, but we got to have some, right? Okay.

Regarding Rick's final episode. Stephen Loblad says it was a cool episode last night. And I know he said we talked more about it here, but I think we went over it all because we couldn't hold back. Regarding Joe Bob's return to Shutter, Ryan Stevens says, I love JBBB, but isn't it weird to think of how awesome he is?

at hosting horror films. I mean, seriously, a guy named Joe Bob. Joe Bob. Oh, God, I guess I could have talked about that news. He has a Thanksgiving special coming on the 22nd called The Diner's of Death. And then he'll be back on Shuddering on Christmas

for a very Joe Bob Christmas. I got to say, I've never watched it, but it sounds very, you know, earnest scared stupidie. He's great. He's great. If you still have Shudder his movie marathon that he did, it's still on there. You can watch it. I can remember hearing about that.

I might have to go check it out. Well, Joe Bob, there you go. Making some waves. Ernest scared stupid. I can't wait until we meet him at Frightmare, dude. I'm going to come up to him and say, hey, Joe Bob, meet Philip. We have a podcast, The Horror Returns. He said your new special looks very.

scared stupidy. What do you think about that, Joe Bob? Hey, Ernest, I mean Joe Bob. Fuck, I can't ever remember your name. This is going to be fun. I'm going to record that, Brian. You're coming with us, right, this year? Yep. All right, we got to bring the little portable recorder so we can catch that for posterity. Oh, this might, in my future YouTube channel, it might go up on there.

Oh, shit. I'm going to have to get real stone before I go there. weren't plan out being anyway I mean Roger the purge TV series has been renewed hey check that out

John Watson says good because this is the first series the first series was excellent this is how to do a TV series based on a movie wow I'm watching it fuck it I'm in guys

I'm in I'm hearing way too many good things about them Plus, he's got my girl Fiona. Yeah, I was about to say show favorite, Fiona's out there. Oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, speaking of which, hall pass of the week. Oh, update. No, not Fiona.

Philip, you were with us at the Renaissance Festival. Did you hear what AJ said about my hall pass? I asked her and she answered. Did you hear her? Oh, yes, but I can't remember who you were talking about. Dakota Johnson? Yes. And I asked her, what did I say, I tell you, I think I want her to be in my

new Hall Pass. And what did the wife say? She said, that sounds great. Go for it. She likes her too. Yeah, she said, oh, man, I love her. That may turn into a Hall Pass threesome. In your head, it definitely should. Oh, believe me, it already has. We got to do this list at one point. Yes. Oh, yeah. Sorry to go off the rails there, guys.

No, no worries. I need to, yeah, I got, I got to write down some names because that's, that's a serious list to think about. Yeah, and then also when you, when you think of some names, then you think you got your list and then another name pops in, then you got to bump somebody. Yeah. Well, and is it the way they are now or any time in their career? You know what I mean? Like Jamie Lee Curtis, for example, you know what I mean? I don't know, because, okay. I had a thing for Pam Greer, but that's Pam Greer, Foxy Brown. Who didn't? Not Pam Greer, Jackie Brown.

Yeah. Right. So. I don't know. She holds up, I think. Yeah. But then I don't know. What really threw me off is escape from L.A.

When she played a dude. Oh, well. And then she had that voice. Well, Bruce Campbell showed up in that as a dentist, didn't he? Or something like that. A plastic surgeon. Yeah. Fucking Bruce Campbell.

we got to be a fright man no shit that was definitely very tongue-in-cheek man yeah but i i see what you're getting at brian didn't exactly turn you on there huh yeah when we do this list maybe we'll have some some guidelines that'll work yeah no no katelyn jenner if that turns pan ger did the reverse all right uh says episode five of the haunting of Hill House. Holy crap, that's some brutal horror.

Wow, I really have to watch this fucking show, man. That's, Brian, that's the Bent Neck Lady episode. Yep. Ooh. That's not creepy. All right, I got to watch it. That was enough for me right there. Regarding this week's E-Society podcast,

it's the fallout from Nez and Theo's totally different guarantees about what Rick's fate would be. Nez says, I didn't rub it in too bad. Stephen Lopez says listening now and his mumbling with his takes on it.

Why can't Theo just accept it? He's alive. But, but, but, L.A.L. Theo says he shouldn't be. Fuck you, Theo. He is. Doesn't matter what he thinks he should be.

We're not the fucking. riders, come on. I get it. They're going to do the movies or whatever. They've got to keep him alive, but if they're going to have his last episode and he's just like, yeah, I half-ass agree with him. We'll see.

We'll see where they take it. Regarding Train to Basin. Dude, this is like the third week in a row. We've had Train to Besan's shit. No shit? Lisa Cole says, another movie this reminded me of, but minus the zombies and more apocalyptic

dystopian sense was snow piercer with Chris Evans huh it was a creepy ass movie the terror was more the suspense of what is the secret of this gigantic train who is the conductor what is the secret that keeps it going

it's so good but I was so not prepared for how everything was revealed a mix of horror shock disgust and what what snow piercer that's a good one It was a good one. Yeah, if you haven't watched No Piercer, definitely check that out.

It's worth it. Captain America. How can you go wrong? Regarding the Suspiria show. Marcus Will Turner, there's a man. Another fantastic podcast, Buds. Thank you so much for taking the time to read my stuff again. And each time you did last month, I greatly appreciate the recognition.

You guys are awesome. Oh, nice. Thanks. Thank you. Yeah, thanks for all the, uh, the reviews, man. Yeah, they are awesome. Yeah, giving us some show material.

You guys make it happen. Millennial Lars from Denmark. Little Lars. Says, awesome show, you evil people, your conversation actually made me want to see the new one again. Maybe I can understand it this time. Thank you for your good work. Dude, I am right there with you.

I kind of want to watch it again. God, it was so long. I'm good with watching it again anytime. You know that. I still don't have it up here. Okay. Well, to check that one out.

Eventually, man. Maybe we'll do a, like, a second take on it after Brian sees it. And I'll find out of watching it again. And see, here's the thing. I'm sure it'll be available soon, but here's the problem. I'd really recommend seeing it on the big screen, man. That's what I plan on doing. I was, you know, I don't try.

two people, but I was trying to find it in time for a last week's show. But it's just not out there. But I, from what everybody's, what you guys said about it, I do want to see it in the theaters. Well, but even on the big screen,

I was dozing a little. Well, teach their own, as they say, right? That is it for listener feedback this week. We condensed it here. Thanks to everyone who reaches out to us. You can always reach us at the horror returns at gmail.com.

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Check out our Facebook group page. That's where the boys are. and we have a great time there. It's always fun. Cool. Definitely be following. Check it out. All right.

Just because it's us. All right, guys. So now that means it's time for our featured attractions. And once again, our good buddy, Naz, has stopped by the studios. What's up, Naz? Yo, what's up, everybody? I'm good. How are you guys doing?

Good. I'm excited to hear what you think about this one. Yeah. Hey, hey, how come, brother, how come you were, you were just able to swing by? You've been up to, like, checking out film festivals or signing events with Mike or what? Mike Morin, the director of the smudging, he has his Blu-ray release. Well, I guess it's his official one. His movie finally came out on Blu-ray, and it was all self-done by him.

himself. He put it all out together. And he kept sending me pictures and everything. And I was, all right, cool, cool. But now once I have it in my hand, I was like, whoa, I mean, he did it. I felt this, I felt proud of him when he first made the film, more proud when he handed me the DVD of it. And then now he's handed me the Blu-ray. And I'm like, oh, my God. I mean, he's, he did it. He said he was going to do it. He did it, which is amazing. I'm happy that he did it. And I'm so proud of him. And I'm happy to be a part of his next two movie projects. So I can't wait to get back to doing those.

But it was cool. People came out to the Intertribal Friendship House in Oakland, California. We were doing, it was kind of like a Christmas bazaar. So there was all kinds of people that were selling crafts and art and everything. So Mike had his table set up for his art that he was selling. And then he, along with his Blu-ray. And a lot of people that came to the screening there, earlier this year, always wanted copies of it.

And now they do. A lot of people came out and picked up some. So that was pretty cool. People were messaging me about online orders. And we need to work it out with him because he wasn't too sure. But he did take a few online orders while we were sitting there. And I didn't get all that information. Once I get all that, it'll be on somebody's show.

And we'll talk about it. But I'll throw it on you guys. is a Port Returns Group page for info on how you guys can pick it up. But if you guys want to wait in December, it's going to be streaming on Amazon. So that's what we're cool. We need like the special edition Blu-ray with the X-Bridge and shit. He gave me just the regular one. I don't know if there's anything on it.

Just the regular one. What kind of friend is that? I want to see the version where Ness gets buttons put on his eyes. Oh, I'm not in this one, everyone. But I did make it to the set when he was filming it. I'm not missed. The next two I'm in. It's got like a leather bound cover and shit.

I'm excited. I need to hit the gym. Lose this gut. Oh, come on. We all do. Oh, man. I saw pictures of myself and I was in Albert Cricky. And I didn't like what I saw.

So I need to do something about it. I feel you, man. I got my holiday weight on already. All right. All right. Well, that being said, Man, what you're going to make, you're going to put it on the, on the group when we can start buying it or buying on Amazon? Yeah, as soon as we figure everything out and the exact, when the exact date is going to be on Amazon.

Cool. All right. Well, I'm glad you swung by man. We're going to, we did, we got into some Nazi stuff last week, man. When we were talking about Susperia. Now we're sometimes you get in a weird place in YouTube. I haven't seen that movie yet, so I haven't listened. Oh, you haven't seen the new one. No, where I'm at, it's awesome. We don't get the artsy stuff. So I've seen the original and I love it, but I was bummed that we didn't get the new one. But I'm down the Bay Area and it's playing down here, so I'm going to hopefully make it out to the theater before I hit home.

Because I want to see it. Well, we're going to, we're going to get more Nazis this week, guys, because we're going to tackle Raiders of the Lost Art and also Overlord, which a lot of people have been looking forward to. So we'll start with the classic Raiders of the Lost Art, director of Stephen Spielberg, also known for, really, guys? Come on. Steven Spielberg, come on, guys.

I think this trivia we don't need. Shit, I could probably say about the same thing about the writer, right now is Lawrence Kasden he's done a shitload huh yep oh man what if Spielberg's in Overlord what? Oh that would be crazy how amazing

there's some touches but we'll get into that later I think there's some touches not to mention a Kubrick touch that I really really want to touch on so you know don't let me forget that okay the truck in Raives of Lost Earth the truck chase sequence took

five weeks to film for six minutes of screen time. Now that's dedication. And if you, oh man, I'll bet Theo knows this one, Nez. If you freeze frame during the well of soul scene, you can notice a golden pillar with a tiny engraving of R2D2 and C3PO. What?

You guys ever heard that one? I saw pictures of it. I've never actually looked for it in the film. Oh, I wish I wish we had now. Nez, you're a big fan of Raiders, right? You've got to be. Yes. And speaking of Mike Moran, this is his all-time favorite.

Yeah? Yeah, he loves this movie. He's actually the one that got me to go see it. I didn't know what it was. I actually saw it like the second weekend that it was out. I didn't even know what it was. I remember seeing the TV commercials from the people that brought you Jaws and Star Wars. And Raiders of the Lost Circle, I was like, okay, whatever.

I didn't know what it was. Mike went and seen it. He came home to me and said, you got to go see this. You got to go see it. It's awesome. So my older brother took me to see it. And I was blown away. I was like, oh, my God.

Other than it was Han Solo, I realized that wasn't too familiar who Harrison Ford was. But I was just blown away. Like, oh, my God, Han Solo was in this. And it was just an amazing film. I had no idea what it was going to be about. And it just blew me away. And after that, I've been a huge fan of the whole Indiana Jones series. Picked up the toys, picked up the comics.

And I'm just glad that I can share it with my kids now. Because the last one we saw, we all went seeing that awesome film. The last one, the Crystal Skull or whatever. Oh, the one with Mutt? So was Was Harrison Ford known for anything before Star Wars? He had a small role in apocalypse now

and he was in American graffiti. But nothing major. So you didn't really know who he was until So Star Wars landed it And then this one kind of... I think Star Wars, right? Was his big breakout, Nass? Yeah.

And that was one that he didn't he didn't really want to do but George he was friends of George Lucas just because of American graffiti he goes come on man I got a part of you do it do it well he actually wasn't going to be in the film he was just helping him with the casting

but then George was like dude I think you can do it so he was like all right I'll do Han and then after that they had that awesome relationship and then he wrote that he I want to say George wrote this story for Harrison Ford this I mean picturing

him as Indiana Jones. I could be wrong, but I'm just, I mean, I could have swear I heard that somewhere, but I mean, this movie is amazing for the time when it came out in the 80s and what it was tackling and the amazing practical effects of just everything. I mean, this film, as a little

kid watching this made me want to go just, I mean, there's a bunch of bushes and I'm sure they were rat infested, but I didn't care. I wanted to be Indiana Jones, so I would crash through the trees, swing from whatever I could, and just, it was just so fun being Indiana Jones. I mean, my brother... You had a whip? No, I had a jump rope. You had a jump rope. That's just all the best I could do was a jump rope, but it worked. It never wrapped around anything when we tried to whip it and swing from the trees, son, that never worked. I'm not sure that's a real thing. But the movies,

is amazing. I love it. Yeah, man, I'm right there with you. I uh, I, I was not quite born when this one came out, actually. Um, I do remember seeing it when I was really young and the whole Nazi zombie or

melting face thing at the end scared me fuck out of me. I just, like, I remember that scene really vividly. Uh, but this is a classic. Yeah. Harrison Ford, this, if, if he wasn't a star after Star Wars, this cemented it. And he's the man.

I think George Lucas and Steven Spielberg are two really good people to know in the movie industry. And the special effects were great. The stunts were incredible. That whole first scene, running away from the boulder, sliding under the door and grabbing the hat. The whole movie is iconic. Every single scene. it's all super memorable I can't say enough good things

I think my favorite scene is going back to what Lance said when the truck scene that whole scene with him being dragged behind the truck I mean my grandmother lives out in the res in Arizona in the middle of nowhere and all we did was ride around in trucks but as we got older

we thought we were Indiana Jones and we didn't go as far as getting dragged a rope behind the truck, but we would hang on to the back of the tailgate of the truck. Oh, being Indiana Jones? That turns into a hate crime real quick. That's not very smart. We would drag our feet and mess up our shoes, but man, it made us felt like Indiana Jones. Hey, what did you say, Phil? Did you say what I thought you said?

You better watch it. That turns into a hate crime real quick. Ouch. Dragging Native Americans behind a truck. We don't want to do that. Oh, no. We did it ourselves. But it was fun. Yes, it was stupid and didn't really. I mean, the crazy stuff we did trying to be Indiana Jones,

I'm surprised none of us died. I mean, but yeah, we were the stupid kids, see, watching stuff on the movies and then go out and trying it. But, I mean, I'm 47 years old. I'm still alive. I'm not saying you young guys should do it, but we were the stupid ones that tried it. But I'm alive to say,

fun. You got to get stories somewhere and they're not going to come from Facebook kids. Yeah. Brian, what do you think? This is probably one of my favorite all-time trilogies. And I say trilogy because I don't count crystal skull in that bullshit. I don't think you can. No.

Shia Leboof swinging with monkeys and no. Yeah, we'll just ignore that one. But, yeah, there's so many iconic scenes you guys already brought up the boulder scene. And then for me, one of my all-time favorite scene is when he has a little standoff with the dude with the sword. Which, a little fun fact, that's not even how the movie was supposed to go. Really? They had a whole action scene planned out. But Harrison Ford had got food poisoning and couldn't perform the scene.

So he just suggested, why don't I just shoot the guy? and her rest is history. I love it. Well, because everything else is so, like, so well produced, and they have these really intricate action scenes on everything that they do. And in this one, he comes down, and it looks like it's going to be this big badass duel, and then, no, I'm done with this. Bam.

But, yeah, I revisit this movie. I will say that it's not quite my favorite in the series. I do have a soft spot for Temple of Doom because that was my entry into Indiana Jones. And I really loved that movie. And then my dad was like, well, you've seen the first one, right? And I was like, no, I didn't know there was a first one. And so. All three is pretty great, though.

Yeah. But yeah, there's so many, I mean, Indiana Jones is the man. I mean, even Indiana Jones, the professor, I mean, he's got female students trying to throw it at him. And, you know, just what can you say? This movie is iconic. What I didn't realize until actually, Mike, when we saw Temple of Doom, he goes, did you realize that Temple of Doom happened before Raiders of the Lost Dark? And I was, wait, wait, what?

Oh, really? Yeah. Oh. It was like a prequel. Yeah, Temple of Doom. was 1935. Okay. 1936 was Raiders of the Lost Dark.

Oh, interesting. See, I didn't really pay attention to the times. Yeah, the timelines are kind of wonky in this series. Yeah, but it's okay. It works, right? Yeah. But, I mean, the Raiders, man,

it was, it was amazing. I believe, I mean, if I'm wrong, someone stopped me this was the first time that spielberg and and lucas did something together i mean i don't know if they did anything before that makes sense yeah i mean i just thought it was amazing and i was i knew george lucas's name i didn't know who stephen spilberg was yes i saw jaws and everything but it didn't click kid you don't pay attention to all that right when we're older i mean i was like oh my god i mean it was just such an amazing film on I mean, the cinematography, the score by John Williams is that that classic Indiana Jones song.

I mean, even today when I hear it as a 47-year-old grandpa, it just takes me back to when I was a little kid and playing in the bushes. And I love it. I mean, it's one of those songs that actually gets you hyped. Oh, yeah. When you go and see this film, like when they do those Sunday matinee rerun films in the theater, I actually went and saw this not too. long ago again in the theater. I've seen it a million. Yeah, I've seen it a million times on TV and everything, but when you see it in the theater,

it just gives it that much more on the big giant screen and the good sound system and everything, but it's just, it's an amazing film. I think the only scene that I hate that I just don't like in this is the scene in the beginning when they're in the cave. And I'm dread, dreadfully afraid of spiders. Oh. Just scared you a little bit, huh? Yes.

Oh, my God. That was only a couple. That's the best thing in the movie. Not when Dr. Octopus spun around. Right? Yeah, you had a shitload of them. Oh, man. I would have died.

That one, and then the bugs in Temple of Doom are the worst. Oh, right. Yeah. Yeah, the bugs. I didn't even like the killer, the little CGI killer Hansen, Crystal Skull. I didn't like that part either. Oh, those were pretty phony looking though, man.

I forgot. Spiders. No. I don't forget. Don't forget about all the rats in the third movie. Oh, yeah. Oh, that's right. Yeah, that was pretty bad. Sean Connery. He's always in those situations. That's a great one. Yeah, everything I like about movies, everything I learned to like

about movies I pretty much learned from my dad. He used to take me all the time. He took me to see movies like The Stunt Man, House of Wax, Star Wars, The Wrath of Khan, when I first started kind of get, well, I guess I watched the old trek when I was a little kid, but that really got me into becoming more of like a Trekkie. He took us to see nine to five of all things, and we love the movie so much that we sat through it and watched the whole thing again. It was so hilarious. But yeah, big shout out to my dad who, you know, I lost a few years ago, but man, he had some influence on me. When he took me to see this movie, if we saw it together once, we saw it five times when it was in the theater. And I remember they used to have an ad in the

newspaper. It was really weird because it said, back when, you know, you had to look through the newspaper to see showtimes and stuff, they had this tagline. I don't know if you remember it, and as it said, go see Raiders in the theater. This film will never be available on VHS. You remember seeing that? I don't know. I don't remember that. Yeah, that was their big tagline. So it did a...

Dude, I remember it was in the theaters for like a year, close to a year. So we saw it at least five times, but Spielberg is easily one of my top five directors of all time, and this is easily... Definitely in my top ten, probably top five films of all time. Spielberg is a definitive, unarguable top five, period. Oh, yeah. Very hard to argue. It's really hard.

I mean, I've been watching this film since the 70s. And all throughout as a kid and a teenager. And then into my 40s, we just saw Ready Player 1. And how awesome that movie was. Yeah, yeah. It's good to see that he's done so much. And he's been all over throughout the years of never just doing. okay, I'm just going to do action movies.

Okay, I'm just going to do drama movies. And he's like touched almost everything. And just, I didn't see the last movie. The one before Ready Player 1. I think it was something with, I want to say Tom Hanks was in that. Half of his, I got to be honest, half of his movies now really kind of bore me a little bit. Like the dramas and stuff like that? Yeah, I think it was one that was right before that was a drama.

I can't remember. I want to say Merrill Shreve was in it, but I'd also like the paper. or something like that. Oh, yeah. The Post? Oh, yeah, the Post. Okay. I didn't see it.

I'll eventually see it, but I haven't seen it. Bridge of Spice was really good. See, I didn't see that one either. He's done so much good stuff, man. I mean, everything he touches turns the gold. Yeah, some of the dramas, maybe it's not for us, but, I mean, there is an audience for him. And when you see his name attached to it,

I mean, even in the 80s when Gremlins and all that came out, Steven Spielberg presents Gremlins. They're like, oh, my God. And how awesome is that? I mean, it was just so, I mean, he was like one of the directors of my childhood. And I'm glad that I can still watch his movies today and share it with the next generation, with my kids. And when my grandson's older, I'm definitely going to show him everything he's done earlier. I mean, everything he's done.

And there's awesome that he directed the whole series. And yeah, Crystal Skull wasn't the. the greatest, but I mean, it was good that it's stuck with. He kept doing them all. And if there is talk of them doing one more, okay, I'm all for it. I mean, Harrison Ford said he's ready

to do it. Yeah, I think it'll happen. Well, that was the reason why he signed to do Star Wars. Yeah, that was like in the contract. That he would do Raiders? Yeah, or do another Indiana Jones because I guess he didn't like how the last one left off.

Oh. I'm not surprised. All right. See, I wish that they would go Steven Spielberg to do a Star Wars somewhere down the line. So, I mean, because there's so much Star Wars stuff in Stephen Spielberg movies, you know, you've got the ET connection, you got this connection. I'm sure there's a couple others that I'm, that I don't know about. But if he could bring all that shit together, it'd be the perfect person to do it. I think, look at Poltergeist. He was the producer that, well, he was. everything we've been hearing that he basically took over the whole project. I mean, rest of peace, Toby Hooper, but it's all these things I've seen.

It seemed like Stevens Bilberg was there the whole time filming it and just kept basically pushing him out of the way to, oh, I would do it this way. And I think Toby Hooper at that time was like, all right, yeah, I'll go ahead and do what you want. But if you look at it in the background of that, in the kids' room, it was, All Star Wars. Yeah, I remember that. Yeah, Chewbacca jacket that was on a chair and all the toys that were laying all over the place. I'm like, oh, my God.

Well, fuck. When I was that age, my whole room was Star Wars, Nez. Oh, of course. It's cool that two of the legends, you know, George Lucas and Steven Spielberg were like buddies. I mean, even E.T. I mean, you see Elliot showing E.T. his Star Wars figures and everything. Yeah, I remember that. And then you see E.

in Phantom Menace. Well, not him, but the little, whatever his aliens were called, they were in the council. And then you see Yoda. So you know there's some kind of connection. There's this thing going around. The E.T. is a Jedi.

Yeah, I've seen that. If you guys haven't looked at that, YouTube, E.T. is a Jedi. It's a cool theory, and it makes me want to believe, like the X-Files. I think there's a better idea. R2D2 is a Jedi

than fucking 18. No, it's great. I'm telling you, go watch it. How did he make the bike fly? I mean, but one of the things which I didn't understand

when I was a kid was the whole Nazi thing. Oh yeah, that's tough, that's tough for a kid to wrap their head around if you didn't grow up in that era, huh?

Yeah, I didn't know what it was. When I was older, I understood who Hitler and the Nazis were. But I liked that idea that Hitler wanted the arc to be able to... I can't exactly remember what they said in the film

that whoever holds the arc will have the power, I guess, or something. So I thought that was cool. And we'll go into the next movie with Hitler and his crazy idea of trying to rule the world. But I like that. Some sessions.

Yeah, and it was cool. And I don't know the Bible too much. So Mike did have to explain to me some of the stuff that was going on and what actually the arc was. True. But you don't really need to know it, though, for the story to make sense, I don't think.

I don't know. I'd just go by what Indiana Jones said when he was talking to those dudes in the beginning because he was like, well, didn't you guys ever go to Sunday school? Basically talking about the history of the arc and what it was and everything. But it was cool, man. I mean, this was a history lesson on that aspect

of what the arc was and everything. Not the... Well, I mean, I guess... guess so. I mean, Hitler was crazy enough to maybe he did want to do something stupid like that, or not crazy like this to get the art to try to rule the world. Yeah. Well, yeah. I mean, it's the Nazis are the ultimate bad guys because they're willing to go to whatever lengths it takes, regardless of human life to achieve their goal. Yeah, not to mention their willingness to wipe out entire cultures. Yeah. And that's basically,

on real life shit, you know? So who could be a better bad guy than that? They are the evilest of evil. Yeah, and it's weird. It's 2018. And we still got these wannabe Nazis running around here in America. I mean, it's weird.

It's crazy. I mean, our forefathers and people's grandfathers were fought hard against that. We're fighting the Nazis. And now we got them living here. Well, and it's that they're the obvious bad guy. Do you really want to be a bad guy? I guess if that is what you want to do, then I mean, not to get the line with a better group of people because they are the best bad guys ever.

Hey, have you guys ever been to the National World War II Museum in Galveston? No, I haven't. No. Oh, fuck. And Philip, you live there. You haven't been yet, right? No, I don't think I have. I didn't know who that's one. Take the kids. AJ and I went last year and it's it is amazing from start to finish well it's the largest World War II museum anywhere in the U.S.

Really? And it's like yeah it's like following an epic film because you yeah you walk through the museum and it actually you start out like in the early days like before the war so they give you an idea of what led up to allowing Hitler to come to power like basically a collapsed world economy and you know people were angry

he kind of did the same thing that the Russian did, but instead of going communist, he went in the other direction. But it's all about taking advantage of people, but you get about halfway through it, and you're like, holy shit, how in the fuck are the allies going to win this thing? Because the Axis were like winning every battle. And then when the Japanese came in and they were willing to, you know, commit suicide in these bombings where they literally drove their plane into ships and stuff like that. It's like, there's no way we're going to win. And then slowly but surely, as more people get involved, and then you get into the, you know, Rosie the Riveter thing where the women helped out.

The merchant Marines, they were a huge part of it. And they weren't even in the military. And these guys, they had like a 30 to 40% chance of dying because half the time they went out, their ships were getting sunk by the Nazis. But then slowly but surely you start getting these little allied victories. And it's, I mean, it's amazing. You guys should check it out. It's like seeing the whole war from start to finish.

And it's better than any movie, except maybe Rage's the Lost Star. Great time to be an American. What did you guys think of Karen Allen in this movie? Oh, she was cute, man. Really? I thought so. She was saucy. Sossi.

And she was like that tomboy hot thing. Yeah, but I think she had it working for. I mean, you know, they could have picked a bombshell, but they didn't, and I'm okay with that. Well, she, my only problem with this franchise, I don't like any of the lead females in it. Uh, go on. They're always there to get themselves in a situation that Indiana Jones has to get them out of. There's no, in my opinion, no strong female characters in this franchise at all. Well, I mean, she was, she was.

She was pretty strong in this one, I think, but yeah, she did get herself into a situation where Indy had to come and save her. Well, she was that. She still wiggled her way out of that. But she was tough, man. She was a soldier. Just see how much she drank in the... Oh, yeah, we used to play those games with soda pot. Me and my cousin, we used to go, like, drink a little shot glass of soda and flip it over and go,

buts outy Masati! Or whatever the people were saying. Any of us would have drank that much we would have been dead. Yeah, no shit. I mean, she was the soldier. I don't know.

I'd go toe to toe with her. She drank all that and still kicked ass. Had that big fight and everything like minutes after. Like the same night. She wasn't drunk at all. Whoa. She must have sobered up quick.

I see your point though, Brian. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, the female characters, yeah, it gets worse. Well, wasn't that Spielberg's girlfriend in the second one? Wasn't his wife at that time? K-Capt? Probably. Yeah. So. Yeah, she bugged me. They could have killed her and I'd have been all right with it. I agree. I mean, there was one thing that always bothered me about this. A buddy in mine was talking about this like a couple weeks ago. He goes, you realize, um,

At the end of Rays of the Lost Ark when the Nazis opened up the arc and all hell broke loose and they all melted. He goes, you realized that would have happened anyway, even if Indiana Jones didn't get involved with all this. Oh, wow. You just blew my mind. They were going to open it anyway. Yeah, true. Well, you guys, you guys ready for scores so we can get under the new one? Yeah.

10 all the way Yeah, that's easy Yeah, I mean, I think If there's a movie That you give a perfect 10 to Is this the best movie on the planet? Probably not, but it's up there. I'm going to give it a 10.

Damn. I'm going to go Fuck it, I'll give it a 10. Shit! I got to be the one asshole. It's one of my top 10 films of all time, but there's only There's only two movies I've seen in my life that I can give a 10 to, but this is a good, strong 9.75.

Yeah, it depends on where your definition of a 10 is. Yeah, it's as close to perfect as you can get, you know? Yeah. I mean, this movie rocked from beginning to end. I mean, there wasn't no dragging this or anything. Even the little love triangle, or the little love scenes they tried to throw into this, but it's still, it was still awesome. I mean, Indiana Jones kicked ass. He got the girl and saved the day.

When he's like, my head hurts, I need you to kiss me on my forehead. Yeah. Why, you've been this big tough dude this whole time and that's how you do this? When you fell asleep? Oh, hell no. I know. Sounds like we all strongly recommend it then. Yeah.

If you haven't seen this movie, what are you doing with your life? Well, let's see if Overlord gets his highest score. It's got a lot to live up to here. Director Julius Avery, also known for Son of a Gun. And get this, another upcoming Flash Gordon remake. That should be interesting. Writers Mark L. Smith and Billy Ray, who's also known for The Hunger Games and Captain Phillips. That's kind of odd choice.

Although JJ Abrams claims that this film is not part of the Cloverfield universe, many people continue to believe it is. I don't think it is. Oh, I don't think it is. I don't think it is. I remember them talking about that. Right. when they first announced this movie that's that was one of the things saying oh yeah this is in the cloverfield universe deep down deep down inside i wanted it to be and i was looking everywhere and watching everything

to see if it was if it was i didn't catch anything and i didn't either i just yeah i'm sorry i think from the backlash they got from Clover Cloverfield Paradox I think they said the next he said the next Cloverfield movie will be a dedicated sequel it won't be a movie that was the script was converted into a

Cloverfield movie that makes sense yeah I mean it almost seemed for a while they're like they were just grabbing whatever movie they could and been like oh the dogs talk in this movie it's in the Cloverfield universe yeah because a quiet place almost was a Cloverfield

film movie. Seriously? Or you could have been. No. They were going originally thought about altering the script to make it a

Cloverfield movie and they changed their mind. I'm glad that. Yeah, I'm glad. If they would have done that with the Quiet Place, I would have liked it more

because that movie was I think so. It was all right. Yeah, it wasn't one of my top of the year. I thought it was more, yeah, a little more

than all right, but not one of my absolute top. what did you what did you think about overlord though nez um it I liked it

I'll see it again I'll buy it when it comes out all right all sounds pretty good I liked the practical effects that were in it and the CGI was was done good

it wasn't there was a couple of the other blood scenes that were kind of hokey but overall I mean the beginning and the end is what I love the most it just kind of drug

in the middle with some of the the story, what they were trying to do with the story. But I did like the whole, I mean, what we were talking about earlier with Raiders with Hitler and his craziness to try to, any way to win the war. And there, there is stories that I've heard before and read about of Hitler trying to create these super soldiers. Super soldiers. And that's what I liked that they did in this. And it was cool. I mean, this movie was, it was, it kept you at the edge of your seat. and it gave you the little bit of feelings with um oh i guess we can do that and we get in spoilers but

i mean i overall i did enjoy it i will see it again in the theater yeah um yeah i mean i i i i enjoyed it i mean i like i said earlier i was really hoping that it was my fingers were crossed that it was going to be in the cloverfield universe but it's not and and i'm cool with that i mean it was still it was still an awesome film and uh yeah i mean sitting thinking about it again. Like I said, I do want to see it again. But when I left the theater,

I was kind of like, eh, okay. It was all right. But, I mean, after really thinking about it and reading things more on what was going on in it, I mean,

I really enjoy it. And I'm definitely, can go see it again. Everyone, if you haven't seen it yet, go check it out. Yeah. Oh, go ahead.

I was looking forward to it, but, well, go ahead, Brian. I was going to say, I agree with you, Nez. I really love the first act

and the last act. last act and it did kind of drag there in the middle. Well, fuck, maybe did you guys see? This thing never let up. It did for me here and there. I mean, I'm not saying the complete middle was just boring, but...

Where they held to get nap? Yeah, but I thought everybody did find in a movie. Yeah. And I will say if there was no I guess zombies or whatever you want to call them in this movie,

this movie still was fucking Nazis are fucking creepy. Yeah. Right. Especially they always have the one guy that's kind of polite and well-spoken. And that just was extra creepy knowing that he's really a piece of shit. I mean, if you look at another movie like, what was it, Inglorious Bastards, the way Christoph Waltz played that character. Oh, yeah.

You talk about Michael Shannon Jr. there? Yeah. He did look like Michael She had him. Yeah, I went in thinking this was one thing and got something else. And I still had fun with it.

I was going to say the same thing. Yeah. I did want more of I guess we'll get into it in the spoilers. There was more of something that I really wanted than what I got. And I can't imagine, dude.

Yeah. I'll say it. Zombies. Yeah. This movie does not have many zombies as you think it has. No, that's not a spoiler. I think that you need to know that going into it. It's not a Nazi zombie movie.

It's a Nazi movie. There's zombies in it. And then I was messaging Des last night. Right. Wyatt Russell, man, he looks and sounds like his father. Yeah, he's got a lot of the same mannerisms. Yeah, there was. Yeah, there was.

Yeah, there was a scene in there. I thought I was watching his dad. Yeah, that was awesome. Towards the end. Yes. Yeah. But overall, I think everybody should check it out. I had fun with it.

Yeah. Yeah. You said not enough zombies for you, huh? Well, no, it's just not what I expected, because I expected Nazi zombies. And that's not really what this is. There are zombies. then there are Nazis, and there are Nazis. But it's not...

What more do you want, dude? Well, the trailer... The trailer made it... Yeah. Go ahead. Oh, the trailer made it seem like this movie is just going to be outright fucking crazy. Yeah.

That's funny for spoilers. There were zombies everywhere. They're in the middle of fucking apocalypse or something. Wait for spoilers. What hell did they do? Did they fucking edit the one y'all went in to see or what? I'm just saying. They made it look like they were in the middle of a zombie apocalypse

and that's not necessarily so don't expect that going into it it is a cool World War II movie with a cool zombie twist on it and I think the acting was really great I agreed that it kind of lulled in the middle

they had to lay low for a little while and that was some downtime that maybe didn't necessarily need to be there a down time dude even when they were laying low shit was happening Well, that's true. I mean, they kept the action going. I was super excited after seeing this movie. It's not what I expected.

Right. It's not the hero I wanted, but it's the hero I needed. You know? I think it was a great movie. Man, I'm going to quote Nez on this movie. This movie was fucking hella good, guys. I don't get it. I don't understand.

And you know, me and Nez, I know, I know. I know your bad times at El Royale is at least like in your top 10, right? Hell yeah. Well, it was in my top five, but this one might have pushed it out. I had a fucking blast with this movie. Really? From the very first screen. You know what I loved?

I love the way they opened it. This is definitely not a spoiler because it's literally the first 30 seconds. But they started in black and white, and they made it look like the old Panavision movies. Oh, that was great. stuff like that. That was fucking amazing. And then that entire beginning sequence in the airplane, just edge of my seat the whole time.

Awesome World War II movie. All the characters' interactions I thought were really believable. It felt to me like a, yeah, like you gotta say, a good solid World War II movie without any thing supernatural or anything early. And then there is a scene where

after the plane scene, I don't know how many people, I don't know if they did this on purpose or maybe the director, this Julius Avery guy, I'm sure he's pretty young, but maybe he happened to watch Kubrick's first feature film. I think first or second, from 1951, it's called Fear and Desire. But that I'm telling you right now, if you guys have not seen that movie, you should. It's only like an hour and ten minutes long. But that whole sequence, after the plane but before the village, a lot of the of that called right it was it was I thought it was a respectful uh homage to fear and desire and then there was a character in fear and desire that did something that these it they kind of tricked you to make it look like this person was going to do the same thing but you have to see it to know what I'm talking about but I thought that was a very nice touch um I was super satisfied with all the action in the movie I was I love the metal part I

thought it was very necessary a lot of good character development in there I think there's two... Well, there's two characters that interacted with each other where the first time this person met this other character that's super irritated with him and like, you know, get the fuck away from me. And, you know, you're creeping up on all this shit. Oh, yeah.

That really, but that really embellishes what happens at the end that we'll talk about later. But for me, there were plenty of fucking Nazis. It was a house of horrors that they walked into. A lot of the... It didn't look too C.G.I. to me. A lot of the effects to me looked really practical. Yeah. I think it was a good mix.

I enjoyed some CGI. You know what? I enjoyed the body horror element of it and the almost reminded me of the thing in a couple of spots. But, no, I love this. Y'all want to get into score so we can spoil? Yep. Yeah. I know yours, Nes, but is it the same as what we messaged?

Yeah. I'm going to give it 7 out of 10. Yeah, and that's good, man. Strong movie, you know? Yeah. I'm also a seven. Seven? Yep.

Yep. Right there. I think, Lance, it sounds like you like this one a whole lot more, but I'm going to give it a seven. I think it was a really enjoyable movie. I didn't necessarily expect it to be bad, but I didn't expect it to be as good as it was. So I really enjoyed myself. Man, I was so worried about this year early on, guys. It was like everything that came out in the first quarter of the year sucked, right?

I don't even remember what came out. I can't. Oh, well, you guys, you guys really... You guys hated that time. I finally got around to seeing that Day of the Dead thing. You guys hated it more than I did. I can't put it in bottom five.

I mean, it's down there, but it's not that bad. Oh, you liked a stealthy ninja zombie? It was stupid, but at least there was a semi-reason for the zombies getting more intelligent. I mean, it's not like they just threw them out. there and didn't explain it but we're not talking about that piece of shit maybe it has to do with the time of year in the frame of mind that we were in when we were watching it no that movie was horrible I said I was pretty bad

when I watched it that that's my number two in the bottom of five hey you you know you you ain't gonna be alone on that one man but the year the year for me is redeeming itself I've seen a lot of good movies up my but my top five has has shifted around a couple of times over the last few weeks. So, no, I give this a nine. I fucking loved it. Start to finish. Wow.

Third act especially. So, you know, I think it was super strong. Yeah, and it was good seeing Kurt Russell, right guys? Right? Yeah. Love seeing Kurt Russell when he pops up. It's like saving Private Ryan, but it doesn't take itself quite so seriously. We all recommend it highly.

I guess I recommend it a little higher than you guys do But Alright What else A surprising success Spoilers I didn't think I'm going to like it that much All right

The beginning was amazing I was probably my favorite part of the film But it was like the most Like Most nerve-wracking part of them Yes Getting ready And bombs are blowing up everywhere

I mean like you said Saving Private Ryan How that was Yeah, right right when they were on the boat before they, they beached, man. And this was the same thing, man. They're just waiting. They're like sitting ducks waiting and hoping not to get hit. And I just thought it was awesome.

And the CGI with all that stuff, we're seeing the ships down the water and seeing the other airplanes. And then when the bombs started going off, I thought that that looked amazing. I mean, I loved the tension of it. And I loved the sergeant. What's his face? he's been in a ton of movies. Oh, uh, Bokeem Woodburn? Oh,

it was nice that he showed up before he got blown away. I know, right? I was hoping that was really long. Yeah, I thought he was going to be one of the main guys. I mean, in the main dude, man, it made you hate him right from the get-go. The guy that played Tibbet. Sure. John Montmargo, I think his name.

Yeah, a little whiny maybe. Yeah, he was just one of those little tough New York. Italian guys. Oh, that guy. I like that guy. I didn't like him at first because the way he was acting, but then he was sick.

He was the Ross one in the movie. A Bronx movie, man. Character development, guys, character arcs. Come on. I mean, I liked everyone in it. I mean, all of the whole, the soldiers,

the guys that made it down to the ground, all them were good. But there was only one thing to piss me off in this movie. Uh-oh. I already told Bright. Yeah. But there's an actor in it.

His name is Ben Tavasoli, I think his name. If you guys caught, I don't know if you guys caught it. But when Bukin was walking through, he said, hey, Nez. And then he said whatever he said to him. And I was like, whoa. I was like, okay. I mean, everyone knows that's my last name. Right.

I caught that too, man. Nez is a Navajo name. So I was like, oh, cool. But, yeah, spoiler alert. He didn't make it. So we're in the spoiler. So, I mean, I was like, okay, but okay, the movie said done, it's over. I found out who this character was, and it was Nez.

I was making sure that I heard that right. I looked up this kid, man, he ain't even Native American. I was like, whoa, man, you could have got some native actor that would only ban it for a minute because he gets killed. I think the only reason this guy got the job is because he's big in the UK. He's from London. And he's like, I guess the star is some show over there. So, okay, yeah, good for you, kid. I'm not blaming the kid for him playing the role he is.

I'm blaming the casting people. Come on, man. There's like a million native actors out there. You could have picked one out of a hat. You were going to kill him anyway, so it didn't matter who it was. But back, back again to that scene, like I said, the whole beginning scene was my favorite, and I loved it. I think one of the things that bugged me about this movie, I mean, yeah, the middle did drag, like we said. While they were at the house?

Yeah, I understood what was going on there, but they could have maybe shortened it up a little. The scene with the one Jewish guy, they got captured, he was in the beginning, he was real scared in the plane, and I'm sure they all were scared. I was scared, and I was sitting in the theater watching this. Yeah, it was well done. But when the main star, what was his name? I don't even remember. Voice. Private Boyce.

when he found his buddy, because I mean, they kind of got that connection on the plane. Like, hey, man, just watch my back and I'll watch yours. All right, cool. And then when Boyce finds him in the Nazi underground mad scientist laboratory, he had all these things hooked up into him in that, whatever, that thing that was stabbed into his stomach that was like some kind of pipe or something that was draining stuff into him. Man, that was, that was creepy.

I was like, okay, he, maybe he had some of that, uh, that Hitler juice or whatever it was that they were pumping into everyone. I was thinking, I was hoping that they would kind of go into explanation on what he, him, because he basically said he goes, he goes, well, what happened? He goes, I don't know. I remember jumping out of the plane and then I woke up here. Um, I wanted to know, like, well, what did he see? And was something going to happen to him?

Because he was hooked up to all that stuff. And he did. He looked like he was dead unless that's just his natural look being super pale white. But I mean, I wanted some, they could have did something with that character, made him slowly turn into whatever these things. And you guys were mentioning zombies, I didn't think there were zombies because they weren't all eating everyone. I think the ones that were trapped in the cage that we didn't see. They were probably eating people because they were just starving. But once all that, everything went haywire and the main Nazi guy,

when he got the stuff in him, he wasn't eating anybody and no one else was. So I was just kind of, okay, maybe they're just crazy, crazy monsters. Yeah. Was that the guy in Game of Thrones? Yes. Okay. I liked him. I thought he was awesome.

Who did he play in Game of Thrones? He was the big dude, right? He was one of the dude. One of the big guys. Yeah, one of the guys that sold him out. I remember that. Okay. But, I mean, everyone with everybody in it was good.

Even the young lady that was doing it. I mean, I think the part that really touched me. Yeah. Were they in France? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, they're in France. When the part that got me was when those Nazis had those,

um, some of the townspeople outside and just execute. I mean, I've seen enough movies of that. I mean, when you know it's a movie, you expect people, especially something like this, people to get killed. But I don't know what it is. When they're dealing with Nazis and killing people, I don't know. I think that stuff bothers me because that happened. I mean, we can watch all the Friday 13th and Halloween movies and enjoy every death scene.

But when stuff like that happens, I mean, going back to like Schindler's List or the pianist, I mean, on the brutalness of Nazis and what they were doing with that. I knew they were going to do a little bit in this, but they didn't really go overboard. But that one scene when they find that truck full of bodies, I was like, oh, my God. That was a bad spot to be in, huh? Yeah, I mean, but, I mean, everything that I said, I think those were the little problems I had with. I know the actor thing wasn't nothing, but I wanted them to do a little more with the one Jewish guy that was all hooked up. I was hoping that he was going to turn into one of the monsters,

or maybe he was going to tell them something that could help more with the mission. I mean, I liked it. I think the other thing, what I liked about Wyatt Russell's character is he was all about the mission. We have to take down this tower. Forget everything else. Yeah, we've seen some crazy stuff this far, but forget all that. We need to concentrate on the mission. He was all about the mission.

He didn't care about all these. crazy monsters and everything that he had seen so far. You got to get the job done. Yeah, I liked him. I mean, I thought that was awesome. And he's probably my second favorite after the one Italian Brooklyn guy. I assume that's where he was from. I mean, he was awesome.

He was the comic relief, right? He looked like that guy from New East, man. He was great. Well, I was, hey, guys, I was definitely wrong on this actor. Hey, maybe Lars can hook us up. He's from Denmark, it looks like. but uh, Pilu Asbach or Asback.

Oh, Lars is going to kill me. But he, he was Uron Greyjoy. He was one of the Greyjoy brothers. Oh, okay. It wasn't,

I thought he was the mountain early on, but I had, no. Okay, so yeah, he was like plotting against Theon and all them, right? Yeah.

Okay. All right. Oh, he's the, is he the bad Greyjoy, the one that's taking control? Yeah. Is he? Cool.

Yeah. He was the one that... No, no, no, no. Uncle. You know, it's been three fucking years since we've had a season of Game of Third. There's so many great joys. Right.

They're a big family. Oh, that is him. No, yeah, he's the uncle, the one that's taking control. Yeah, he's the... Oh, that killed Theon's father? That's him? Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah, killed him on the bridge, right? Yeah, yeah. All right. Okay, that makes sense. He's definitely a good, bad guy. going back to Overlord one of my favorite character became one of my favorite characters

was Chloe because I thought she was a complete badass at the end especially when they took her brother because Wyatt Russell's over here talking about you know the mission still and she's like no fuck that let me grab this machine gun and these grenades I'm going to get my brother

and I just thought she was a complete badass with the flame throw her and everything yeah and another scene we didn't talk about was the photographer when he got injected in the app and he was just flipping out at first oh that was great yeah you didn't know what was going to happen because he just popped up and then all of a sudden it was like he was a superhero and then all of a sudden he started talking about I'm burning up and my head hurts and that thing where he just broke his own neck yeah and then flipped it right back that was crazy that was awesome head bones

sticking out and shit. It was crazy. This movie gave me everything I wanted, man. It scratched every itch. Finally a good horror movie, man. It's not up there with the thing, obviously, Brian, but you've got to admit, some of the special effects were awesome. That head, that was all by itself, just a head and a spine,

but it was still alive. It was fucking creepy, huh? Which I love, I love Private Voice's whole, like, thing at the end, where he could have told, he could have told his, I guess, superiors or whatever, about the lab, but he, he knew that that shit needed to be buried and forgotten.

Yeah. Right. Well, that's the question I had about the dude that survived, that had the zombie goo in him. Or, I don't know, he had a tube of something. Hitler juice. Yeah, Hitler juice. I don't know.

Maybe we'll find out in the sequel, right? Maybe. But they, yeah, they buried it at the end, just kind of like the same way they buried the Lost Ark at the end, right? The Raiders. Yeah, I mean, going back to the photographer guy, I mean, I thought that CGI looked awesome. Like I said, I was trying to look for anything that was going to give me a hint that this was part of the Cloverfield universe. I think the first thing that kind of got me excited is I remember when the soldiers were walking through the woods and they found that dead animal-looking thing.

Yes. On the ground, I was really looking at it. I was hoping it was going to be one of those little crab-like creatures that fell off the monster. Oh, fuck. That they had to run away from in that tunnel or whatever? Yeah, I thought it was one of those that first. Yeah, from what I understand, if you pay attention to the movie, it doesn't give you Easter eggs of Cloverfield, but it does give you Easter eggs setting up a sequel.

Okay. Yeah, I like that idea. Yeah, because that dog thing was some weird, creepy dog thing, and that's not the same dog that they ran into later. Well, those other dogs they ran into later, those are probably still just running around. Also true. Oh, do you guys have any idea how well this is doing at the box office? It's probably not going to win the weekend because that Grinch movie came out. Oh, fuck that Grinch movie.

from what I'm hearing. It sucks. Really? I've heard nothing about it. I heard the opposite. I heard it. I've heard nothing but bad. Maybe it's just the people I, you know,

the circles I run in or whatever. Yeah, my theater was packed and everybody was there to see the Grinch. Ah, well. It wasn't grinchy enough. Hmm. I saw this Thursday night, um,

the first showing a new movie thinking it would be in one of the big theaters. I mean, the theater I went to has got 16 screens And it was like in one of the smallest theaters I was like Really? Was it at least full? No, there was only about 10 of us in there

Fuck. Oh, well Well, see, I had the same thing It was in a small theater, but there was at least, you know, 20, 25 people in there Which, you know, was kind of a lot for that theater At a like 10 o'clock showing on Friday Yeah, I went to 420 in the afternoon showing And it was in the biggest it was in the biggest theater at the AMC I go to and

May as maybe like one third full there were a lot of empty seats, but it was you know 420 in the afternoon too so what else are you supposed to do at 420 in the afternoon besides watch a movie right Phil Watch an overlord I imagine would be a pretty good thing It probably would work out well Yeah, um all right well We got a, I guess, time to sign out because my wife's getting in from out of town. So you guys ready to close it out? Yep.

Sure. We would to thank you guys for listening to another episode of the horror returns. Be sure to give us feedback and ideas. We are now, and we had to be with your last name, Brian. We're now on Stitcher. Oh, nice. And it looks like we're going to be on I-Heart Radio as well. Nez, if you're not on those, let me know.

So I can show you how to get your podcast on them, man. You may already be there. Yeah, I would have to look. But yeah, I'll look on there and see if we are. All right, man. Sometimes we pop up on all these things and I have no idea. All right. Well, Les Nez, thanks for swinging by.

Other than the big victory against Theo in the Rick Grimes saga, what else do you heck guys have coming up? Right now, not much because he is caught up in jury duty and that threw a wrench in a lot of our regular show. But if you guys listen to our anchor feed, we always do something on there. So, yeah, we're just going to wait until he's done with this court stuff. He says it's coming close to an end,

and then we'll get back on schedule with the regular show. But listen to our anchor stuff. Check out the anchor feed. Just search E-Society for you Apple podcast listeners, and we're on Spotify. and every other thing that's out there. So, yeah, just give us a listen. And guys, you know, man, I love you guys.

Thank you so much for always including me when you need me. I'm always here. And yeah, that's about it. Go see Overlord. And watch Raiders is a lost art for the jillionth time. However many times it's worth it, right? Yep. Well, next week, Nez, I hope you come back.

Well, you are coming back next week. You have to, dude, because it's the year so big that it needed to have two episodes. It's back to 1980 for the year in horror 1980 Part 2. And, Nez, what was probably the biggest horror movie in 1980, man? My all-time favorite horror movie, Friday the 13th. The OG original. I don't care what anyone says. That movie is awesome.

for all you new young millennials or whatever you want to call yourselves, think of the time. It was 1980, and it scared the hell out of a lot of us. Oh, yeah. I just watched one not too long ago. We'll get into more of that next episode. Yeah, that.

And then Prom Night, featuring our favorite scream queen here, apparently, because we've done about 78 of her movies, Jamie Lee Curtis. Never seen it. And the trauma, the trauma production, Mother's Day.

That should be interesting. Also, never seen it. So, Phillip, until the horror returns again, good night. Stay off that Hitler juice.