The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #129: The Year In Horror 1980, Part 2: Mother's Day, Prom Night & Friday The 13th (Reupload)

Episode Date: February 25, 2025

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and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back to the horror returns. We're taking another trip back into the past, 1980. The year in horror, so big it needed two years. We were really hoping we'd have a special guest tonight, and he may show up later, but, uh,

Brian, when I say 1980s, who do you think of? Think of Nez. Of course. He is Mr. 1980s. And his witchboard masterpiece. Well, he's at a screening with Mike tonight, so he was hoping to be on to talk the movies, but we'll play it by ear. He's off doing red carpet stuff, I get it. Red carpet shit.

Apparently they're having like a fancy dinner and stuff like that. for him so oh that is red carpet shit shout out right get some nes all right so i got my co-hosts here bryan and philip and uh maybe nez will be here later maybe he won't but what's going on phil oh not a whole lot man i'm uh just working my ass off and uh getting ready for thanksgiving but uh i did watch a couple of pretty cool things this week Yeah? If we're starting cool with the week, yeah. Is that cool?

Is that cool with you, Brian? Yeah. Go ahead. Thing of Hill House, you guys convinced me. And I burned through it in like two days. Yeah? Nice. Yeah, it was great.

It was put together really well. Like, I kind of think that we should do a show on that show. But, uh, because I'm curious about what you guys thought about the ending. Oh, I'm totally down for that. Yeah, same here, man. And you know, Brian with his sneaky ways doing stuff in the talk, reaching out to agents, reaching out to actors, reaching out to writers, directors. There may be something in the works along those lines, Phil. Oh, I didn't even know.

So we'll see. But yeah, fucking hey, dude, haunting of Hillhouse, man. Are you with me that it might be like your favorite? show of the year? Maybe, yeah. I mean, it was done really well. It's like the first season of American Horror Story. Mm-hmm.

Sort of. Back when it was really good? Yeah, but maybe even better than that. Yeah. I think it's what American Horror Story should have been. Yeah. It's a good way to put it. And then my other cool of the week is, sorry to take the two big ones.

the Walking Dead Holy shit No no no no you can't spoil man I'm a week behind Oh that's cool You gotta watch this one I'm a week behind I'm so excited about this show

It is yeah Yeah I haven't been this excited about it Since like I first started watching it They're doing a lot of new things With some twist and turns that you probably wouldn't see coming Well you might Lance because you read the comics I don't know if they go that route or not But it's fun.

At the end of it, I was like, oh, shit. I literally said that after the show was over. So, good things ahead. Let me ask you this. Did they have a couple of people that heard zombies, or think they hear zombies talking? Yes. Yeah, that follows the comics.

Okay, yeah. And ass, all right. Super exciting. But that's it for me, for, cool of the week. All right. Brian, you've been busy, right? Sadly, I don't

have a whole lot this week. I have been going through what is that Netflix show? Castlevania. Ah, that's right. I saw you post that. Yeah. Yeah, it's really good. I mean, I still wish that we can get a live

action Castlevania show, but the anime's pretty good. it's a pretty good story who would you cast as the main dude oh gosh I don't know that's tricky I've got an idea

Scarsguard I've got a better idea I'm afraid to ask can you really put Dane Dahan in anything Why not why did I not see that coming Castlevania starring Dane Dahan

I would actually I would actually watch that. Yeah. Why wouldn't you? Just to see the train wreck, I mean. So how does it compare to Death Note? Oh, Death Note.

Death Note is, oh gosh. This is far beyond Death Note. I know there's like Death Note diehard fans, but Castlevania, like, the new season, the first season was four episodes and they were like, under a half an hour

so you can burn through the first season like in an hour second season's like two hours so that's a plus for me and I just can't do the anime like my son is like super big in an anime and he's trying to get me to watch shows

and they're like a hundred episodes per season I can't do it it's too much overkill I don't blame you I never really could get too into anime I tried

Yeah, I mean, the movies, some movies are cool that I've seen, but when you get into the shows, like, one of my son's shows is like Dragon Ball Z, and that's like 800-something episodes. I'm like, no, it's, I'm too far behind. I can't do it. Yeah. Well, and there's some Dragon Ball Z-Nuts out there, too. Oh, yeah. Z-nuts. Is that this thing like D's nuts? Man, the only

The only Japanese animation that I saw Beside Death Note is I had a friend in college that was into it And he invited me over And he said, hey man, let's check this movie out And some fucking multi-tintical creature Having sex with like a Japanese schoolgirl Like pulling her dress up and shit

I'm like, uh, dude Anime and anti are two totally different things Oh man He turned me on to something weird, huh? Yeah. Whatever float your boat, man. That's cool. It's weird to something, not to others.

Yeah? What did you check out, Lance? The chilling Adventures of Sabrina. Oh, don't say too much. It's good. It's good. It's super dark. It's like, what's cool about it is,

Like there's not, you know, really bad language or nudity or anything. So it kind of lulls you into thinking that it's going to be this wholesome, you know, like young adult type show. And then all of a sudden they bring in Satan. Like witches that are worshipping Satan. And it's good. It's really good. It's really dark. And pretty good characters.

And there's something that happens really early on that kind of sets the stage. for the rest of the episode, so I'm looking forward to it. Cool. Yeah, one of my friends is really trying to get me to watch, what does that show, Riverdale. I heard it was good. It's basically on that same tone, that really dark and adult and a lot of murder and sex and stuff. So I think after Sabrina, I might check out Riverdale. I know that's on Netflix, too.

I've never even heard of that one. Yeah. I'll have to look at it. I think it started on CW. It's definitely not as edgy as like the, there was a comic book that's called Cherry Pop-Tart. You guys heard of that one? I have, but I'm not too familiar with the story.

It's like a hardcore porno version of Archie. I was going to say, it sounds like we're headed back into hentai territory. Okay, well, so that we don't go too far off the reservation, Brian, you got any headlines? Talked about John Fabro's The Mandalorian Star Wars series. Yes, can't wait. Some new casting. Gina Corrano, former M.MA fighter. Yeah.

And also former Game of Thrones star Pedro Pascal. Hmm. Have joined the cast. And rumor, rumor, rumor, rumor, Carl Weathers. What? Apollo Creed himself. is rumored to be in the Mandalorian in an unspecified role.

That could be cool. Interesting. Yeah, how could that be bad, right? Yeah, I am not mad at that at all. Let's see here. Yeah, Gina Carano, she was really good. You got seen the movie Haywire? Yeah, she was good in it as far as the action, but I believe that's the movie where they dubbed

every single bit of her her lines. I heard that too, yeah. Yeah, so. Yeah, but I mean, it's a Stephen Soderberg movie, so, you know, I mean, it can't be too bad. Yeah. I liked it, but you can tell that wasn't her talking, so. Yeah.

Well, I definitely like, I liked her actions in it. Yeah, I'm not mad at Gina Garano. I like her. Yeah, you don't, you don't hire her for her acting because she gets in there and kicks ass, so. Yeah. and Pedro Pascal, he's been in a lot lately. He was recently in, what was that, the second Kingsman movie.

Ah, okay. Yeah, but I'm trying to picture him. And Game of Thrones, he was, I forgot his name, the mountain had crushed his head when they had that. Oh, that dude. Yeah. Yeah, that was a pretty memorable scene. I know immediately who you're talking about.

Yeah, I've seen Pedro. I mean, what else? He was just recently in the Equalizer, too. Yeah, I always go back to Game of Thrones when he got his head crushed. Yeah, he's good. He's a really good actor. I like him. Probably to the useless TV news.

Have you guys seen The Bone Collector starring Denzel Washington and... Unfortunately. What is her name? Angelina Jolie. Oh, man. I'm 90s, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's going to be an NBC TV series.

Okay. Sure. Why not? So that got... Of all the movies that came out in 1999, that picked that one, right? Yeah, so that led me to a question. What movie would you guys want to see turn into a series? Because, you know, they seem to be just grabbing any movie nowadays. From 1999?

Let's go with 1999. Okay. The Matrix. The Matrix. Well, that would be good. Well, no, no, that would be a cool TV series, I think, actually. John Malkovich? I was going to branch outside 1999 because that's not what I was thinking.

The Goonies, if they're going to remake it, to a TV series. Now, would you bring back the original cast? Yeah, that would be awesome. How are you going to do that? a Gooney sequel TV series. Brian, he's coming up with this shit, man. Well, I mean... Somebody hire me.

They're all still... They're grandparents of the new Goonies or what? They might be. Their kids are getting together. That would be cool. I'd watch that. I mean, what's his name? Seems to be busy.

Thanos. But I don't know. I think everybody else is free. Yeah. I would go with one of my... favorites. It's in the 80s. Big trouble in Little China. Oh, how? A TV

series? Yeah, because they got a current comic series, Old Man Jack, where Jack Burton's character is a Kurt Russell's character, Jack Burton is older. Oh, cool. So, yeah, I would love to see that. That'd be cool.

Yeah, that would be cool. And then, like, he could face, like, a different villain for each episode or something? Yeah, I mean. Or, like, a 10, attend episode arc like each season yeah that would be cool I mean I like the way you're thinking

man a lot better than the bone collector that's for damn sure the bone collector sounds like or no one more a little bit of TV news uh

comedic actor camille nanjani I think you guys have seen him but in a lot of stuff to say he is going to be at Jordan peels the twilight zone hmm is it a movie it's going to be a series on CBS all access

oh okay and joining him we talked about Adam Scott and also Sinai Lathan which she's been in a ton of stuff but the only thing I really know her from is loving basketball and that horrible first Predator

versus Alien movie. You remember that one, huh? Yeah. It wasn't completely bad. So this new Twilight Zone series, are they just going to rehash like stories from the original or what? I think it's going to be a mix.

Excuse me. I think it's going to be a mix. Because the only one I know they're doing is that classic one with William Shatner. Yeah, of course. the one that Adam Scott's going to be in, right? Yeah, that's the only one that I know that they're doing. But I heard it was, there was also going to be news stories as well.

That's the Gremlin on the Wing, huh? Yeah. Yeah, that's classic. Maybe they'll update it kind of like mirror style. I have the criminal taking a selfie or something. And we're going to switch over to a little bit of movie news. Okay. house you remember we guys talked about it and they're currently already dropped like two episodes they had that deal with hulu where they were doing a holiday themed horror movies like each month or genre movies

blum house has now signed a deal with amazon for eight original genre films and they will all have a thematic connection these will be exclusive to amazon prime Well, so, um, Blumhouse is making a lot of moves here. Probably some of them will be good and some will suck, right? Most likely, because right now, those two holiday ones, they drop with Hulu, they both suck. Oh, no, both of them, man.

Um, I think Nez was telling me he liked the first one. I, I thought the first one was okay, but they need to be shorts. They're actually, like, movie-long episodes, so. And the first one had... Overkill, huh? Yeah, the first one had to do with a hitman on Halloween night.

And I thought it would have been cool if it was maybe 30 minutes on, not an hour and a half. But what do I now? I'm not making them. Blumhouse, that's about par for the course. Some of them are good. Some of them are bad. As long as they've been 333, they're good, huh? Yeah.

And our final bit of news, JJ, Abrams Bad Robot Production Company is developing two horror movies. One is an untitled project from Megan Amram who the only thing I know that she's worked on is Silicon

Valley. Okay. And then the second is titled The Steps, which they said this is going to put a twist on possession films, a twist that hasn't been done before. Oh, wow. Are they going to actually

possess the devil and the devil's trying to get God out of him or something or what? How do you twist the possession? I mean... I don't know. That's what I was thinking. I'm pretty sure they've taken every twist and turn in a possession film that they can. Although I'm not mad at it and I will watch it. Damn, Lance, that is kind of a good idea right there. Wait a minute, dude. I mean, what else could they do, right? Yeah. You might have just put

that out in the universe. That's probably what's happening now. And yep, that is all the news again. I have a feeling it's going to be a lot of slow news weeks for the rest of the year. Holiday season is probably not the best time for horror news. Yeah. Yeah, but there's been some good horror movies coming out, in my opinion, at least. Very true. Yeah.

Still wish I could see Suspira. Oh shit, you still haven't seen it. And Philip, you need to give it another viewing, man. Yeah, I think I do. The more I think about that movie, the more I kind of want to watch it again. Yeah, so... After I first watched it, I had no desire to watch it again at all. And now I kind of do.

I'm curious. Yeah, I tried to sail those seas, and I can't even find it there either. No such luck, huh? No, nothing. Yeah, they're keeping it close to the vest, it seems like, huh? Yeah. It's got to get a wider release, I guess. Hey, actually, one thing I didn't mention Cool of the Week, but it's actually, you know, the more I'm thinking about it, I'm enjoying it.

The more I'm thinking back on it, the more I'm appreciating it. But, AJ and I went to see the new Steve McQueen movie Widows. Oh, I want to see that. Yeah, and there was so much going on. Like, it's definitely a second viewing, deserves a second viewing type movie. Because there was so much going on that I couldn't really wrap my head around everything. And they had so many different characters and different storylines. But, you know, like thinking back on it, I'm kind of starting to appreciate the storyline more.

So I kind of want to go back and rewatch that. When that was, he actually wrote that with Gillian Flynn. Okay. And, yeah, gone. Gone Girl and some other works that she's done. What was the sharp objects, right? Was that the TV show, Brian? Mm-hmm.

That she wrote. It's just really, really, you know, dense movie. There was just so much going on. And now that I'm thinking about it, it seems like there's a lot of movies coming out lately that you kind of almost need to see twice, you know? Yeah. Hereditary may have been one of those movies.

Oh, yeah. at least twice, right? Yeah, it's been a pretty big year for dense, heavy movies, huh? Yeah. See if they get any Oscar nods. I doubt it. Nah, we'll see. Tony Collette needs one.

I know. Wow, I don't know, man. It'd be interesting to see if she gets recognized for it. But anyway, not to get us off track there, but back to the trailer park, boys. first one we're going to talk about is Zoo Now this is starring Forgive Me

Because we got some names here Here we go Zoe Tapper Ed Speilers Antonia Campbell's Hughes And okay This is where I got to cut it short

Because I can't get into these other names I'm going to butcher Every single one of them Can we send a smoke signal of Lars and see if he can help us out here? Yeah directed by Antonio Tublin

I believe I said that right lots of Danish names yes this probably falls in the very very weird category I take yeah what do you guys think about this I want to hear what you guys thought I'm I'm kind of into it because I like when

like you think it's mainly about zombies but the zombies are background couldn't agree more yeah almost like what was the show I was the purge okay because the purge was secondary

it was about the characters it was about the story and I kind of I'm kind of digging that lately because I mean you know how many times can you do a zombie movie so you know change it up a bit and this might this looks like it might also be

kind of like a dark comedy maybe yeah there's definitely some very dry British humor happening. Very dry. Hey, the haunting of Hillhouse, right? Perfect example of character development over

scares, right? Oh, absolutely. Yeah, but they had their scares too, which is cool. For sure, yeah. It reminds me a little of, there was a British movie about reformed zombies after they had found the cure. Reform zombies!

And they were trying to integrate them back into society. And I can't for the life of me remember what the name of it was, but that one was pretty, it was also very British, and I think it just has the same sort of tone as this one. But it was a good watch.

I mean, it wasn't bad. It wasn't awesome. I don't even remember the name of it, but it was fun. Good. Oh, man. Yeah, I can see that. Yeah, reading the synopsis here, it says a couple's trying to save their marriage during the zombie apocalypse. I didn't know if they, it didn't look like they was trying to save

their marriage unless they was trying to do it with drugs. You know what? You know what? This trailer reminded me of? Why? You got seen the William Friedkin directed movie bug with Ashley Judd and Michael

Shannon? Oh yeah. Yeah. Yeah, that paranoia. Yeah. I got that vibe big time. And then like all the drugs they were doing like super paranoid. I honestly thought the zombies were all in their head until, you know, toward the end of the trailer, they kind of give it away.

Maybe you figured out the twist. I don't know. I mean, you literally see zombies at there eating people. But is that just what they're seeing? Oh, I don't know. Well, we will see because I'm interested. I know this got a release already in early October, so I'm not sure when it's going to get a full release. So I will keep everyone posted.

Maybe Lars will hook us up with a screener, huh? Yeah, hook us up, Lars. If you're out there, Lars, I know you're out there somewhere. Somewhere, somewhere, somewhere. Come on, Mars. After that, right there, you've got to send us something. It's serenated. It's like John Cusack.

Okay, now on to the final trailer. Lepircon Ritchhorns I'm the Lepricon A direct sequel to the 1993 original

Then why does he look nothing like Warwick Davis Because he's not Warwick Davis Yes He is played by Lyndon Porco

Oh that may come into playing the listener feedback So why don't you Hit us up on Who Porco is man Let me pull up his IMD. Let's see.

He's got a pretty awesome name. I'll say that. He was in cult of Chucky. Ah, okay, cool. Did he play Chucky? It just says body. Ah, okay. He was in Little Man.

I don't know if you guys ever seen Little Man with the Wains. Love Little Man. Oh, man. All the Wayans Brothers movies, man. Yeah, they're usually pretty good. And that is only two things I recognize. All right. Full disclosure, guys.

I'm 5'5 foot 6. I'm allowed to make fun of midgets. AJ gets so fucking pissed at me. She said, they're not midgets. They're little people. Now, fuck you. They're midgets, God damn it. They're fucking funny as fuck.

I mean, really, dude. You're not wrong. I've heard the right. I can say it. So there. I had to get that out. Not to be like this or respectful, but if they're trying to be funny, they're funny.

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, let's see. Rounding out the cast is Taylor. Sprit. Spritler? Pepe Sondonga? I'm, you know what? I'm cutting this short, too. I am not, I'm not, the names are not working for me this week.

Right. This is directed by Stephen Koltzansky, Colstansky, there we go. I know this is going to premiere on sci-fi. It looks like it's going to premiere on sci-fi. The only thing that I am rooting for is they're going for a hard R, so I'm hoping we get some outrageous kill scenes.

And some breasts. Do they show breasts on sci-fi? I don't know, but they need to. did they do in blood drive uh no damn it you don't remember seeing any you're killing me Brian oh you're killing me because I was hoping that you said

yes and now my hope for this movie just went down a little bit so hopefully we get so because in the trailer there's a scene it looks like a solar panel falls on a guy I'm hoping when we watch the movie that it doesn't cut away and we see the guy actually

just get squished. Oh, I'm sure. Kind of like the big paint of glass and final destination. But it's got to be, it's got to be practical effects. You want to see like, oh, it won't be on sci-fire. Are you kidding me? Oh, man, but see, that's where I think it would be awesome. If you put, you know, the cheap dummy and it doesn't even have to be good practical effects.

Yeah. But to watch a dummy get crushed by a solar panel is going to be way more fun than watching a future guy. get crushed. My point of view, they have to at least get it right there because, I mean, we talked about they're doing a killer clowns

from outer space and a critters movie on sci-fi. I'm looking for it. I think if this is really fucking bad, I don't know if I'm looking forward to those other ones. I think you're right.

So. I might put the kibosh on those. It might. It might. So, I believe this. What's what's the story? What's the subplot here? Why are they like going green? Are they like living off the grid or something like that? Or what? Let's see. Synopsis, the leprechaun returns once again when a group of girls unwillingly awaken him. When they tear down a cabin that they can build a new sorority house. That just be nothing. A sorority house and there's probably not going to be no tities at all.

Oh, lepricon in a sorority house. All right, they better have some wet t-shirts or something. And that sounds stupid. You're going to tear down a cabin to build a sorority house. Oh, my God, it would look so cute right here. Oh, boy. So I guess we'll have to wait and see. I believe it's going to be on sci-fi.

and I believe also the same day it'll be on VOD or anywhere you rent by movies December 11th just in time for the holidays but not but not St. Patrick's Day that's what I was thinking I'd come out and march sometime

no that would make too much sense and that is our final trailer all right Philip, I know we don't have as much feedback with Halloween over, but we got any? Yeah, Halloween was definitely the busy season, but we do have some. And headlining again is Marcus Will Turner, the gift that keeps on giving. He says, am I crazy, or is the song used for the Toy Story 4 teaser the same as the one used during the end credits of hereditary? I didn't listen to that.

He made me go watch it. It is. Is it really? Yeah, it's that... Oh, wow. I really don't know clouds at all. Speaking on that, I didn't even... That fucking Child's Play remake...

Oh, no, we gotta get to that. ...in fucking trouble. That movie is in fucking trouble already. Yeah, good. They're gonna release it the same... The same day as Toy Story 4. Well... Oh, yeah, that's trouble.

You know, that's like tongue-in-cheek or something. right there, I guess. Yeah, but I mean, we've seen what happened to Oak Lord. Yeah. Yeah, and I loved Overlord. Yeah, I really enjoyed it too, but Overlord barely made $10 million opening weekend. Oh, man. I'm hanging my head and crying right now.

Yeah, yeah. It's Toy Story 4 because most adults are going to go see that one. Oh, yeah. I want to go see it. Do you guys see any of the teasers? Just the one with the Cloud Song. Oh, they got another one introducing Kean Peele or playing characters.

Yeah? What? Yeah, I really, I really dug it. Oh, boy. Are they, you think they're going to actually be good? Yeah. Because they were, they were kind of corny when they showed up in like, um, um, ah, shit.

What, what, that TV show. God damn it, based on the movie, the Cohen brothers movie. Uh, Fargo. Oh. Remember when they showed, they were in it for like, like 30 seconds or something? something. Yeah. You know?

Yeah. So you think they're going to be pretty good in this, huh? Yeah. I'm a fan of the series. I love Mad TV. Yeah. So I think, you know, they're going to be good. I liked all the Toy Story movies.

So I thought that loud, that third one was kind of dark for children. Oh, is that the one where they were on the conveyor belt? Yeah, they were going to get burned to death. That's rough, man. Well, he says, I just watched the teaser and that song filled me with dread and I couldn't understand why until I thought, wait, is that from Hereditary? Yes, it is. That film is still stuck in my mind. So could have been, could that have been intentional on Disney's part?

No. Yeah, you never know. I mean, it's possible. Somebody with a really sick mind. Yeah, Disney doesn't need to write on anybody's coattails. though I wouldn't think. Nah. Oh, but you know what?

Wait a minute. I think Marcus may be onto something here. There was a certain VHS tape cover art for The Little Mermaid. If you guys know what I'm talking about here. Oh yeah, there was a bunch of stuff.

Yeah, sometimes it's fucking... In all of the movies. Yeah, these Disney artists just fucking go off on their own. So you know what? I think Marcus may be onto something here. That may be intentional on the part of the movie. to whoever put the musical choice together for it, you know? Yeah, I think I've seen a YouTube video.

It was like all this hidden stuff that's in Disney movies and cartoons. I think Denny Louis did a whole episode on it, didn't he? Speaking of which, we're going to give a quick shout out here, okay? To our main man, Denny, the show will be coming back. Oh. We don't know when yet, but you heard it here first. The Midnight, or not the Midnight Horse. After midnight, the After Midnight podcast will be returning.

You heard it here first. All right. Nice. Carry on, boys. Well, they may be on to something because Beatrix Harper says, get them Tim Foyle hats ready. Thomas Mariani says, my money's on Woody getting decapitated.

Okay. I hope not. Jesus. Let's see. We have a T.H.R. poll with our next installment of Year and Horror series, what is the best horror movie of the year 1980? So far, The Shining is out front with Friday the 13th, a close second. Don Anelli says, I have Cannibal Holocaust for the Chop Spot,

maybe too extreme, but still a top shelf classic. Okay. I don't like that movie. I haven't seen it. It's kind of boring. really yeah yeah it's i don't know i don't know maybe it's i'm desensitized by now but when i'm watching it i'm just kind of like some of those effects are cool and then others i'm just kind of i don't know i just i was really bored with that movie and uh russell a calhoun says motel hell hell

who to guess that hey but you know what i'm gonna remember that movie for the rest of my life yeah for sure watering the humans right instead of the plants yeah yeah regarding the picture from Friday the 13th of Kevin Bacon getting the arrow in the back Peggy Loblad says Stephen this was the part I was talking about I hate sleeping on my back that's what she said okay Stephen something we we should know here Oh, she's talking about getting an arrow, not a... Ah, never. Okay.

Right in the back, every fucking night. Okay. More leprechaun returns talk. Josh Youngblood. Who is playing leprechaun this time? Who did we say it was? Porco. Porco.

Yeah, that guy. Porco, Calrizian. That. That's a great stage name. That'd be a great midget porno. You know what? Borko Talarissa. Oh, my God.

All right, I love it. Debbie Pula says, I didn't hate this trailer, but I'll wait for the sci-fi premiere. Yeah, I think a lot of people are mixed. Yeah. Well, you know, it's not like the first one was super awesome anyway. Well, Brian, this is

Brian, this is the 21st century. At this point, we're all mixed. Yeah. Also, Drew. Regarding Ruby Rose as Batwoman. Oh, Marcus Will Turner says perfect. Ryan Stevens says absolutely perfect. Debbie Pullis says, I must admit,

I'm a little excited about this. She looks really good in the costume. I'll love for it, for sure. I'm not mad at it. That's it for listening. or feedback this week. Thanks to everybody who reaches out to us. You can always reach us at the horror returns at gmail.com.

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thanks guys all right badass now it's time for our featured attractions again like I said earlier the year that was so big in horror that it needed it needed two episodes so 1980 part two and we're going to cover

Mother's Day Friday the 13th at prom night. And if we're really, really, really lucky, and that's why we're getting Mother's Day out of the way first, we may have a special guest for the last two movies. Fingers crossed. We'll start off with Mother's Day, brought to you by Trauma Entertainment. Director Charles Kaufman, also known for When Nature Calls and Ferocious Female Freedom Fighters. You guys seen that? I don't know. That sounds awesome, though. it sounds awesome it was written by Charles Kaufman

along with Warren Light who is also known for over 100 episodes he wrote over 100 episodes of Law and Order Oh this film was shot for only $15,000

and Brian this is interesting the bear excrement that Trina steps in during their trek into the woods was actually edible. The effects man made it from flour and other ingredients and even ate some in front of the cast to demonstrate. Well, that seems excessive.

Speaking of excessive, 14 minutes of this film were cut in Germany. Oh, here we go with the Nazi thing, three weeks in a row, in order to keep the film from an X rating. Oh, that makes sense. Mother's Day. Brian, what'd you think, man?

Oh, I hated this fucking movie. Oh, no. Did you? Yes, this movie was, I don't know, this was poorly made. I know they had a small budget, but I thought the fucking acting was bad. I thought the story was stupid. I mean, I don't know. I thought it was.

I heard so much about this being a cult. This is my first time watch. Yeah, me too. I heard so much about this being a cult classic. And so I was, I was, you know, excited to get into it. And I, and I just, everything fell short for me. I thought it was going to be more violent, more gory. I thought it was going a certain direction when the lady Gaga look alike in the beginning.

Like they were about to assault her. Uh-huh. I thought this was about to go into some really weird twisted way, because I thought they were about to do this whole rape thing in front of the mom who seemed to be enjoying it. Yeah. But this whole story of her, like, training her sons to be efficient and against, like, attacks from, what was it, her sister or something she was worried about? Yeah. I just thought it was stupid. And.

No. None of the effects just, I don't know. This movie was Maybe This made me really consider on adding a category To our end of the year show Yeah Best and Worst

Original movie we're saying, older movie Oh you already, yeah, you already said we're going to do that, right? Yeah, this might be right there. Are you serious? Yes. Holy fuck, dude. Well, I know Philip and I had a different opinion.

I think. I like to hear it because. well there was nothing i liked we talked about this a little bit right i'm not going to say it was good because it was you're fucking telling me out asshole no it was it was a trauma movie and you have to you have to realize that going into it we're talking toxic

Avengers and like the king of B movie category stuff yeah i mean i like I like toxic Avenger I like uh Sergeant Kabuki man I like all those but But this was on another level of just... Dumb. It was...

Okay, so this falls into... Is it so bad that it's good, I feel like? And at first, when I first started watching it, for probably the first 30 minutes in the movie, there's somebody fake scares, and it was just kind of boring, I really didn't really pay a whole lot of attention to it. And I was thinking, why are we watching this garbage?

And then the second half of the movie, when they actually get captured, happened, and you never go full retard, but they went full retard. And at first I was thinking, wow, this is kind of offensive and stupid. And the more it went on, the more I like it. it. I felt like the brothers had a really stupid chemistry and the mom. They were all just larger than life characters. It turned into this like Texas Chainsaw Massacre family kind of thing. And there was something about it that I kind of liked by the end of it. I mean, it was dumb. You have to, there's so many plot holes that are, if you think about it too hard, you'll just, you'll stop

yourself from watching the rest of the movie. But when you think, wait, but was it she? Just forget that thought and keep going on the movie. Right. And, you know, if you can do that and know that it's going to be bad going into it,

man, it was kind of a fun watch, just for the characters alone. I thought the two sons and the mom were great. And I even liked the whole last sequence when they tied the headbands on and got all kick-ass chicks on them. I wish they'd have been a little more kick-ass,

but it was very comic booky, and I like that. Yeah, for sure. I guess. I mean, hardly anybody died in this movie. I don't even know how the one girl, the one friend died. I don't know if she said. I'm still... Barbecue sauce coming out of her or some shit.

Catch up. You know, you know what? I'm going to say this about this movie. I fucking enjoyed... enjoyed watching it. And I don't know if it's just because I had been watching so many. Okay, here we go. Last week, AJ was out of town. So basically all I did all week long was stay up until 2 a.m. watching fucking shitty old horror movies. And by the time I got to this one, I think I'd watched six like really, really bad ones in a row or something like that. So, you know, that could have

something to do with it. But my favorite usage of, I think we're alone now in a movie has always been in the remake of Cape Fear when Robert De Niro

do you remember this part? Uh-huh. When he's, you know what I'm talking about? I think so. He's hanging out. Who was the young chick? I can never remember this actress's name. Juliette Lewis?

Yeah, Juliette Lewis. And I guess she was the daughter of Nick Nolte, the judge, that put De Niro's character in prison. And so he gets out and he, you know, starts fucking with Nolte and his family and all this. And so he meets her behind the school, I guess like in school auditorium where they are doing like a school play or something like that. And she's sitting down and she's so innocent. and he's just got this incredibly menacing persona and he pulls out a joint and starts smoking it. He says, you want to hit, honey?

And she goes, oh, I really don't think I could smoke. I got to be really careful. He goes, honey, I think we're alone now. And that was up till now, that was always my favorite use of that song in a movie. But this may have it beat. When they fucking tied that down in the middle of the fucking football field. Oh, that was pretty funny. He thought he was going to get laid.

That was fucking hilarious. He was strutting his stuff like it wasn't. That dude's chest hair went into his armpit hair. He was just strutting around his bear suit. That was crazy. And why was his butthole all red? I didn't catch that. He was running away and I was like, man, he's got a big all red spot right in the middle of his ass.

This was a bullseye. Man, and then when they put him, he was a bullseye. They were at that party. And I think it was actually Charles Kaufman that was the guy that was doing cocaine at the party, Brian. I think I read that in the trivia. Oh, nice. But yeah, just keeping it authentic. Yeah, just a good old-fashioned 1980 trauma porno pool party, you know?

Probably wasn't scripted. They probably was just a party. I would imagine you're exactly right. But I would feel, man. I really love the Texas chainsaw massacre crazy family dynamic that they had in this movie and the two fucking retarded kids and shit like that that were actually full-grown men. But, you know, mother smothered him so much that, you know, she kept him acting like little, you know, little sycophants or whatever.

I enjoyed it. I thought it was a lot of fun. And, yeah, I love the way the girls kind of got their own at the end there and got badass. Brian, maybe it needs, maybe just like all these other movies we're talking about, it requires a second viewing, sir. Yeah, it is a thinker. Probably not. Probably not. It may require a second view.

And one of the guys, when he dies, like, his eyes are just open real big, right? And then they start carrying him off for reasons yet to be determined, because they could have just fucking left him there. And you can, like, he's looking right at the camera and he blinks. I mean, the effects are terrible. And the main brother who mumbles the whole time and is hilarious, by the way, has like those, those bubba teeth that you can get. Oh, yeah. For like Halloween.

I have some of those in my house. And our fruit basket here in the house. We keep them there because that was like one of the things that when my dad passed away, we found those bubba teeth that he used to fuck with my nephews and stuff with and we just keep him in our fruit basket all the time for some reason don't ask me why that sounds sedentary mother's day father's day right father's day uh no but i yeah i mean that it was it was super cheesy but uh look at it through a green lens it'll be a whole lot funnier I was going to say

Anybody that wants to watch it You can go to the YouTube channel Film Rise Presents Trauma And they're showing like unedited Full Trauma movies Which is awesome And I paid I paid fucking $399 through

Fucking iTunes for it God damn it Oh nice You can just go to that channel You can watch classics Such as Maniac Nurses Find Ecstasy Oh wow Well

Count me in I want to be a part of that party party So yeah Brian sorry you didn't like it man I had fun with it Yeah maybe maybe one day I'll give it a rewatch I kind of

Even though it's not a great movie either I kind of enjoy the remake more than this one Oh I haven't seen the remake tell us They have Rebecca DeMorne in it right? Yeah which if we did An older woman Hall Pass list She's always been kind of on there for me.

Yes. I like Rebecca DeBornay. I've got my three picked out. You ready? Yeah. I'm at the ready, boys. Oh. Of older women?

Oh, yeah. Okay. You got these lists just ready to go, don't you? It's ready to go. You ready? Yeah. There's a signed copy at his house. Ellen Miren.

Helen Miron. I'm not mad at that. Susan Sarandon. Not mad at that either. And, uh, yeah, you know what? I got to think about my third one, because I'm, I'm kind of like up in the air. I'm going to, I'm going to tease it and wait until we do the actual episode. Because I've got about three in mine.

And two of them are horror actresses and one of them is more of like an actress that's like mainly westerns of all things. Ah. So, cogitate on that, boys. All right. Dr. Quinn, that's where I'm headed. Oh. Kitty cat. Kitty cat.

I see what you're getting at. And then define older, because Elizabeth Hurley is in her 50s at least. Wow. Wow. Just blew my mind right there. I'm going to say, mind blown, man. I mean, she's, that's too easy. She's gorgeous.

Right. Hey, her and Hallie Berry, man. She played the devil. She did. Hallie Berry's still badass. though, she's not old. Helly Barry's like fucking 30 or something, isn't she?

No, she's like 50. What? Yeah, I'm gonna look that up right now. Yeah, please look that up. I don't believe you for a minute, dude. She has to be at least 50. She was stormed, dude, in the X-Men movies. Yeah, and she's still gorgeous.

That wasn't that long ago. She is 52 years old. Well, that's she's she's holding up well yeah to say the least oh man I gotta

I may have to step out for a minute boys real quick you guys want to do writings oh yes lest we forget right yeah before we go completely off the rails actually you were first Brian

yeah I have to give this a two I don't blame you was bored The acting was bad I mean like I said I was really confused until they actually said it I didn't know if the one girl died or not

I thought she was sleeping Because she she I believe she also was moving her eyes And then she died when she suddenly You know she was wiggling and groaning And then she suddenly did a wiggle and groan And stop moving her eyes rolled in I thought she was sleeping She's got to be dead now.

Yeah, I didn't know until they actually said it, and then that sad music started playing or whatever. Yeah. And I was like, okay, I guess she died from what I am not sure. But, yeah, I can't give it no higher than a two. Hell, hell. Yeah. I'm going to give it a six.

I think it redeemed itself for me. Not bad. Yeah. No, I mean, it's definitely, like I said, it's definitely not a good movie. It is, it is B-movie trash. And the special effects look like it. The acting looks like it. Even though if you really get into it towards the end of it,

the acting, I think, really comes through. I stopped thinking about it as actors, and I started believing what they were doing. As dumb as it was, because they're dumb, characters. I liked it, man. I think it was worth watching. It was just as a really bad one that I'll remember one day, because I'm never going to forget this movie.

I had fun with it. Especially the cocaine pool party, huh? Well, no, just more the characters of the brothers and the crazy mother. and then at the end the extra little jump scare that they did I thought that was fucking hilarious and perfect for the movie

I actually felt like the rape scene that they had was a little bit out of place in this. I understand why they did it, but I felt like the rest of it was more of a horror comedy but at least it was to me. I don't know if they intended it to be funny, but it was fucking funny.

And that one was maybe a little too serious for me. Even though they did put a little comedic spin on it, it's still rape. Okay. I'm going seven. Wow. Yeah, I'm on a roll here, boys. When is this going to stop? I mean, I'm complete softy here on scoring. But I had a lot of fun watching this. I don't know. Maybe it was just the mood I was in. Maybe it was the context of you know, some other movie as I'd seen before, but I'm going seven on this one. Yeah, way too many shitty movies.

Yeah, I guess so, man. I'm hoping we can get Ness in here because we've got two more movies to talk about, right? Yeah. We do. And full disclosure, I haven't seen one of them. Yeah? I think I can guess which one.

Well, not Jason. That's true. All right. So now we're going to move on to our next film, Prom Night, but not alone through this night. We fight. We have our brother from another mother, our man from the 80s himself.

Nez is in the house. What's up, Des? Yo, what up, everybody? Transmating from San Diego, California. Me and Mike are down here. He's going to have a screening for his movie tonight. and I stepped away from that for a little bit so we can talk everything 80s or

two things 80s you missed Mother's Day brother well I didn't miss much so oh no you got that right hey dude walk us walk us through what your night has been like so far uh took the early flight down here this morning actually flew to L.A.

and then jumped in a car from there and drove the rest of the way down here for those of you that are familiar with the Southern Cal area LA and San Diego traffic sucks so it's a minute to get here

and now we're at UC San Diego if you hear cars and everything driving by I'm actually outside so no worries he's getting his stuff set up, they're putting up signs and everything for everyone

when they're having the screening tonight. I have no idea where, because I don't even know where we're at. Actually, they told us, oh, pull into this parking lot and now we're here. But the screening don't start for another few hours, so I got plenty of time. It was like a secret parking lot. You're VIP, dude.

It was that. Yeah, it kind of made us VIP. We actually pulled up to me. Yeah. our spot and it said the smudging for our parking spots. So we're like, oh, sweet. Nice. Yeah, I'll throw everything up on Instagram and all that shit.

And you'll see what we're up against later. But right now the ladies that picked us up, took us to an awesome dinner. Now I'm hella full. I'm ready to fall asleep. But I got to talk 1980. Yeah. awesome films that I love and hopefully my brothers do as well and you people in the listening audience.

All right. Something's going on here. I see all kinds of spotlights flashing. Yeah. Shining them right on you, man. So you're hella full, but first you've got to talk some hell of good with some 1980 goodness, man. Hell yeah. What do you guys want to start with?

We made that all agree, especially on this first one because we're going to talk prom night. All right. director Paul Lynch also known for several episodes of Star Trek the next generation and also Deep Space 9 so I should love this one right Star Trek brother

yeah writer William Gray also known for the Changeling and Black Moon Rising the van that was blown up in the movie was actually stolen by the stunt coordinator true story stolen

yeah stolen I read that in two different places man, I verified it. He's fucking stole the van. The fucking stunt coordinator stole the van to blow it up for the movie. Stole the van from some random person to blow it up for the movie. God only knows where, man.

Well, I mean, if you're going to do something with a stolen car, I guess blowing it up is a pretty good idea. Guerrilla filmmaking, right? Yeah. That's, I didn't know that. I mean, that's crazy. I mean, what if

whoever's van it was? went and saw the movie. My fan. Holy shit, that's my car. Whatever, dude, shut up. No, fucking for real. That's my car. That guy that's driving it, stole it from me. All right, since it's 1980,

we got to talk about Gene Siskel, and he called this a watered-down version of Halloween Cross with Kerry. He also referred to it as a combination of Friday the 13th and Saturday Night Fever. So, Mez, prom night, everything is all right. Hook us up, man. Well, the first time I'd seen this, it was in the theater,

but it wasn't the movie I went and seen. It actually turned out to be better than what I went and saw, but I can't remember at this time. Can't imagine how bad what you saw was. It was such a long time ago. All right. But I was nine years old when I saw it, and I've loved it ever since then. I just actually picked it up on Blu-ray.

I know it's streaming on Shudder. Fucking waste of Blu-ray. And no, man, I love this movie. Yes, it's corny, and it's just stupid, and I had that 10-hour disco dance scene. And my daughter and my wife hate this movie. When my daughter was getting in the horror movie, My wife never liked this. He saw it back in the day as well, but when I was watching with my daughter,

right? She's like, what are we watching? Why are you making me watch this? I mean, I hate watching horror movies with her, especially the old ones that I love, because she just talks so much shit about it. But for what it was, I enjoyed it for 1980. Like, I was nine years old when I seen it. And I loved it.

plugs. I was already sorry. We were all in love with Jamie Lee Curtis already after Halloween. And I think this is the movie, the next movie she did right after that. Makes sense. I mean, I can't remember if this was before Friday

13th or after. I don't remember. But it's corny. It's cheesy. It's better than Mother's Day. You're making a lot of excuses, man. No, man. But I still really enjoy. this film. I watched it

the other night. Yes, corny and goofy. I've already said that. But I enjoy this movie. I love it for just the pure 80-ness that 80s that it is. They probably did it. Filmed it in 79 because it's still

they were still in the disco era. But it had your 80s kids, man. You have the cheerleader or whatever. And then you got the little nerd girl and the nerd guy that thinks he's cool, the one in the van, and then you got the typical 80s, I don't know if he was Italian, but the tough guy or what have you. I don't know what he was.

He kind of reminded me of a... Like Beattie from a Predator. But the movie's cheesy. I don't know what's going on. I'm sorry everyone. I don't know what's going on. I see guys with machine guns walking around here. Now, this is for real? Or you're just making this shit up, dude? No, for real. Machine guns.

There's some... Well, it looks like there's a carnival going on. Okay. And there's guys walking around with machine guns. Kind of carnivals at. What the fuck is happening right now, dude? Do you need to, like, call 911? I don't know.

And there's students walking around everywhere, so I don't... I don't know what's going on. It just, that spooked me. A soldier was in front of me with them... I don't know. Those are cops? Oh, the sheriff's department. I don't know.

Something must be going on. I don't know. Maybe their security for this carnival. But anyway. Oh, dude. Nez, let me ask you this. You have like the fucking Saudi prince visiting your... I don't know.

With rings on all his fingers. Nez, let me ask you this to get serious for just a second. How close are you guys to the fires, man? From here, it's way back up in the L.A. area. We're down more close to Mexico. So the smoke isn't bad down here. I don't even think. I can't even smell it.

There's nothing. It was more up in the Hollywood Malibu area. And it wasn't too bad flying in. You could see all the smoke. Okay. But being at Mike's house, I couldn't smell it. I couldn't smell it at all. But the movie, prom night, yes, corny, cheesy.

it did have that Halloween feel as well as Saturday Night Fever mainly just for the 10-hour dance scene The 10-hour dance scene I mean but I mean it was what it was It was a who done it. You got this guy going around killing people You don't know who it is

But then you find out at the end And for 1980 I really enjoyed the film Yes it hasn't Aged very well I mean and there is a But there is a big following for this film.

It's not just me. Yeah, there is. There is. Yeah. So, but yeah, man, I really enjoy this film. Man, this movie was a piece of shit, dude. I don't know what you saw. It's fucking shitty-ass, fucking disco. I thought Rick,

I thought that we were going to have somebody come out and start singing disco duck, man. I mean, this is terrible, dude. Did you see it when it came out? Yeah, so I did see it when it came out, and it seemed like I enjoyed it when I was younger. But fucking, for one thing, our girl, Jamie Lee Curtis, she's only in it for a hot minute. I mean, for some reason, I remembered her being in the movie more than she was, but it was mainly the other chicks that this, this fucking killer was hunting down through the school, you know?

Yeah. I don't know, man. I just, to me, it just seemed incredibly awkward and just, uh, you know, I mean, I don't know, dude. Somebody else talk. Well, in defense of it, you're trying to sell me on it now. It's like the second slasher movie, I would say. I mean, because. What?

After Halloween? Well, there wasn't much after Halloween slasher wise, was there? Yeah, I guess you're right. I mean, that was kind of on the front end of it. Yeah, I mean, because I could be wrong. Maybe there was, but as far as mainstream, I can't think of any... When did Black Christmas come out? Other than Friday the 13th.

So I couldn't tell you what was in between Halloween and this one. I think Black Christmas was even before Halloween, wasn't it? Like, 76 or something like that? Or am I way off? Oh, you may be right. Oh, no, dude, you know what? There was a ton of horror movies. Because I remember before we did this, I should have had this all pulled up.

There was a lot of other horror movies that pulled. Mike just said, My Bloody Valentine was in the prowler. What else? Ah, that's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He, uh, get Mike on, man. We've been trying to get that guy on our podcast for a year now. What's up, Mike?

What's up, fellas? So, yeah, it had a, got my bloody Valentine, the prowler, those Canadian horror ones that he knows you're alone. Terror train, right? It was another Canadian, right? A train was in that same time. Oh, yeah. Speaking of Jamie Lee Curtis. Hell night.

She didn't get that scream queen name for nothing, right? I mean, yes, so there was a ton of stuff around. Okay. I put in my mouth now, but, um... No, no, no. You're, you're, dude, man, you're, you're, uh, making a lot more sense than we are because, uh, I, I, I, I couldn't remember really anything before Halloween and than this. No, I mean, because with all the, all the 80s stuff that came out, right? Right.

For me, the 80s was a long time ago. And for some of the list, you probably, we're just, but, and we're just, but, and we're just, starting. We're like on 1980, so we get a long way to go. Yeah, I mean, you could probably do a few more shows just being in 1980. Yeah, we probably could. I don't know. Mother's Day and prom night, I think we hit the bottom of the barrel. It's time to get the shining.

We already did the shining, though. Yeah, that came out in 80. Yeah, but that was, we did that one with the Dark Tower, remember? Oh, that's right. Let me, yeah, but yeah, overall, I mean, I enjoy, wait, but yeah, you guys continue. Yeah, what did you think? I thought this movie was trash.

I was fucking bored. You said it was... Yeah, you said it was a he, a, uh, a whodunit. I didn't care by the time it was over. I didn't care by the time it was over. I will say the one shining moment was my boy, uh, what was his name? Slick. Slick?

The guy in the van. that character yeah that character you usually see him in the movie he don't that character really don't ever fucking get nothing that guy got everything before he he die he got the girl he got the smoke a little bit he was in that goofy ass fucking van scene that in my mind i was playing uh what's what's that benny hill music dan that i'm talking about there the day let me But, Nez, I ride with you on a lot of movies. We agree a lot. But this one, man.

And I don't even remember Jamie Lee Curtis in this movie. It's like she would show up and then she would leave for, yeah, for periods of time. She would be gone. This was slightly better than Mother's Day for me. I will say she was in the movie 30 seconds longer than Leslie Nielsen was. Oh, man. She was in the movie, too. Yeah, if you blink, if you blink, you would have missed Leslie Nielsen, for sure.

Right, Naz? It was like in the beginning and the end. Yeah, come correct, man. I'm right, aren't I? Yeah, he was hardly in it. And what was with that opening scene, man, with the little kids in the school and the little girl getting, I thought she was the killer. Did any of you guys think that? that she was going to not be dead

but somehow either reincarnated or alive again or something like that she was killing everybody I don't know this movie was mixed up because you guys said I got that carry vibe I also got

a little bit of a yeah and the prom kind of gave me a carry vibe and then the phone calls gave me a when a stranger calls vibe and a little bit of every other horror movie huh yeah philip you loved it right

uh man i i tried to watch it last night after i finished watching uh mother's day and uh it was late i fell asleep mother's day took you out well no i got i got through mother's day and i kind of enjoyed it and then i started this one and i got through the first scene and it was going a little bit slow. That's all I saw that first scene.

So I can't give it a fair assessment. But I mean, if Jamie Lee Curtis and Leslie Nielsen are only in it for a minute, that's dumb. Because those are the two top-filled people in this thing, and that's what I was looking forward to. Maybe Ness can explain it to us. Well, Frank Drebben, that's all I see in Mass. He was, well, he did Forbidden Planet and some of the other things,

Westons and all that just he was there everyone knew who he was maybe he just needed money to to pay the bills or something so let me do this movie I'm only in a few minutes uh Jamie Lee was still riding off of um

Halloween and and the fog and the fog so she was like instantly the scream queen for some reason I mean true because it may after Halloween hit so big and yeah if you do

look at her her filmography, it was like pretty much nothing but horror for a while. And then she spawned off into the comedies and the serious stuff. But, um, I don't know. I can still defend this movie. I mean, I mean, I was there when it, when it came out and I still have, it still has a little spot in my horror history, uh, in my heart to, to continue watching it. But it is, like I said, it is goofy. And it's, it's just, a lot of these 80s movies are. man and they don't make sense a lot of it i mean i think what they were doing at this time uh with slasher films because if you do go look up a list of 1980 cocaine that and it was these movies i mean i always it always goes back to hollween after that hit

movie studios were just busting out movies horror movies left and right slasher movies we also got maniac in 1980 which is an amazing film oh that well yeah we covered that last time. You got Motel Hell, which I will defend to the end, and you guys hate me. I love that movie. I mean, you even had I don't know if you guys seen Death Ship

with George Kennedy and Richard Crann. I don't think so, man. I need to check that out. I've heard of it, though. I liked it. It's stupid as well. It's dumb as well, but I enjoyed it. All right. You probably need someone that can speak

German because there's scenes in it where it was actually a German war death ship. I can't remember what they called it. Like a U-boat? Um, no, aren't U-boat submarines? Yeah, submarines. No, it's just a regular big ship. And because

the Germans. In the movie Third week in a row, we can't get away from the fucking Nazis. The ghosts are speaking a German. And there's no subtitles because I have the blue-ray.

No, that's weird. I have the Blu-ray, and there's no subtitle. That's weird, man. But anyway, if I say ghost, I'm like, are you a good ghost or a bad ghost? And then they start speaking German, and I'm like, okay, you're a bad ghost. I'm out. I'm getting the fuck out of here. No offense to any of our German listeners.

No, I mean, it's not, I'm not saying anything bad about it. But, I mean, it was just, why couldn't we understand what they were saying? But anyway. Because they sound like they're yelling, even when they're not. This movie prom night, man. I mean, it was what it was. It was just something that we put out this horror movie. We know we're going to get money.

We know people are going to go see it. And of course, man, everyone, when I remember, when I saw it, man, there was a lot of people in there. And yeah, maybe they all didn't like it, but it was still, horror was really big. It's still big now. It's big in our hearts. And in the 80s, when, I mean, I always go, I always defend the 80s. I got to go. If it wasn't for the 80s, you wouldn't have a lot of this stuff you guys have now.

Yeah, we know, Ness. Yeah, so, yeah, it's because of us that you guys have what you have now. I will. I will, I will admit this, Nez, there were some fucking badass disco moves in here, man. There was a hell of, there was a fucking badass disco floor, like in multicolored squares. Travolta style. There were some collars turned up, baby. Yeah.

There were some gold chains with some Coke spoons on them all night long. Yeah, there was so much ball yet during that. I mean, but yeah, I mean, besides all the dumbness of it all, I mean, even when you get to the, the guy, the killer, when he's running around chasing everyone. There were some Mr. X, too, right? Oh, yeah. I mean, to me, I think the only really really good. good kill to me in this is the bully guy when he gets his head cut off. Yeah, that was a good one.

I mean, that was cool. I mean, it was even a cool little special effect after when you see the actor who basically stuck his head through a hole and throw some blood on him. And it's there. I mean, it's 80s, man. It is what it is, man. Like I said, I'm always going to defend these stupid movies that everyone hates now. But it was my childhood, man.

And I was already, like, it was like the beginning of watching horror for me in the theater. Because it sounds pretty influential, you know? Like, would there be a scream without prom night? I mean, that didn't know. A lot of shit you were talking about sounds like some stuff that Scream did. I mean, yeah, these are these are the beginnings of, I mean, other than Halloween starting it with the killers in a mask. I think everyone, when they were making these movies, that we need someone with a mask.

Yes, it didn't hit like Michael Myers or it didn't hit like the hockey mask. I mean, but I mean, that's what they were trying to do with this. Just making their own iconic killer, which failed. They failed. They made another one, Prom Night 2 or... Oh, yeah. Hello, Mary Lou or whatever.

Where she was riding the rocking horse. That had nothing to do. Right. Or even the stupid remake, early 2000s, that one. It was same name, title, Promite, and it had nothing to do. Oh, that's right. That's right. They did make a remake.

And if you didn't like... I did see the remake. If you didn't like this one, I mean, and I've come across people that hated this one and liked the remake. The remake was worse than this one. It had nothing to do with it. It was so bad, dude, I couldn't even remember what happened in that. Well, I have no desire to see the remake, man. Well, there's...

It's not even a remake, dude. It's just another. movie with the same title. That's all. That's it, huh? Yeah, it's bullshit, and I hate it. Definitely not memorable, because I have no idea what happened in it. Yeah, I thought once and I don't remember. Are you

all ready for scores so we can move on to the golden, the golden ticket here? Yeah. The biggest movie of 1980, biggest horror movie of 1980? Oh, wait. Well, I don't know. Well, the shining's ahead, but it's a close

second. But, uh, we digress uh uh nez your your score is probably pretty high on this one right oh yeah i'd give it an eight that's that's good man oh that's good dude that's how you feel i mean stick with it dude don't let us don't let us talk you down can i go next go ahead two this fucking piece of shit it's a fucking two man this this is terrible nez What did you watch, man?

I said, I mean, I was nine years old sitting in the theater watching it. All right, all right. And I still, I still love it. All right, I didn't get anything out of it. But who did, Brian? I'm going to give it a four. Hey. I can't, I can't go any higher.

Oh, my staff up there. Shout out to Slick. For stealing the van. He didn't steal it somebody else, did. Ah, that's what I heard. All right, he got the girl. Hollywood Legends. Phil?

Oh, man, I didn't watch it. I can't. Okay, fair enough. All right, so we're real mixed on this one. Hold on before we move on. I mean, did you guys, the first time you've seen this film, did you realize who the killer was? No idea.

But like I said, I was starting to think it was going to be that girl somehow. Oh, the one that... The one that died. The one they pushed out of the fucking window. I thought somehow she was still alive and killing people. I mean, I think for the first time that I had seen this, I couldn't figure out who it was. I'll give it that because I totally forgot about the...

I totally forgot about the other boy being there or whatever. Yeah. Because at the very beginning, when you see that little girl laying there, you see a shadow come up. And I mean, I know. I didn't notice that. I remember that the first time seeing it. But then I was thinking, well, who is it?

And then once all the killing started, I still didn't know what was going on. Because if you do, do pay attention to this. Maybe someone else figured it out before on their first watch. But, I mean, you see the brother. The actual, the brother was end up being the killer. I think it was his twin or twin brother. He was the one that ended up being the killer in the whole thing. Do he?

but it was I mean it was it was cool man I mean I liked it I mean it was a good reason behind the killing it wasn't just senseless I mean this guy went after them because they killed his sister so he he had that in him

I mean any of us would I mean would do something like that so but I mean that's what I really liked about it it was something that can happen I mean yes there's a lot of slasher films it just like Friday the 13th, not the first one, the ones that came afterwards. Yeah, I mean, you go on just to see Jason kill and all that. But, I mean, this one was believable.

Yeah, it was corny and stupid, but it was a believable reason behind why the killer was killing everyone. So other than that, it's probably one of the other reasons I like this film. Right. All right. That's cool, man. I mean, it's definitely considered a classic. Like you said, they made a remake and several sequels. so, you know, it's got some street cred, right?

Yeah. Yeah. All right, well, we've got to move on to the big one, boys. 1980 is known for a lot of horror movies. Like we said, if I've said it once, I've said it six times. You know, we need to have two episodes. But the big one, the granddaddy of them all, the maestro, the horror movie. of 1980, Friday the 13th, director Sean S. Cunningham, also known for Spring Break and the New Kids.

You seen The New Kids, Naz? Yeah, I didn't like that. It's kind of weird, huh? Yeah, it got a little bit off, but Spring Break was hell of fun, right? The comedy? Hell yeah, dude. That's fucking 1980s beer comedies like that. Oh, yeah. I mean, those, those comedies, and especially in the 80s, man, there was just for little guys like us, man, you just wanted to, sorry for the language ladies, but you just wanted to see tits and ass and partying in those movies.

You got that spring break, you got that in porkies and everything. I know they're going a little more hard with the comedies now, but it's different times. But, I mean, it was what it was, especially with this film. I mean, I love it. I mean, like I've mentioned it before on the show and numerous other shows I've been on. This is my all-time favorite horror film. Slash or film, whatever you want to call it. But, I mean, I liked it.

I mean, Victor Miller wrote an awesome story. Shanness Cunningham brought it to us. I mean, they didn't have much of a budget. It was all filmed in New Jersey. And I think the only known star at the time was Betsy Palmer, but we don't actually see her into the end. Until the very end. right? Yeah, I mean, yeah, you see a young Kevin. Spoiler alert.

You see a young Kevin Bacon. For a 1980 movie. He was nobody at the time. Right. He's just now talking about this movie. He kind of just wanted to put this behind him and didn't want nothing to do it. He better talk

about this movie because that bullshit the darkness he did was garbage. Oh, no. That was our first movie ever. So, hey, Nez, did you know that Jason was originally going to be called Josh? Yeah.

When all these documentaries come out and books and everything. You probably know more trivia than we do, so take it away, man. I mean, I've read so much into this. I mean, watching that awesome documentary Crystal Lake memories by the Blu-ray DVD, what have you, or the book. I think the book goes a little more description on the whole series. But with this first film, Victor Miller, he, I mean, we all know what it is. know Friday 13th, we know who the killer is. I mean, a lot of you young guys, when you hear Friday 13th, you automatically think of Jason, like my kids did. When my son Kyle, he wanted to watch this,

because he was so fascinated with Jason because of some video game Jason was in one of those Mortal Kombat fighting games or whatever. But yeah, mine wanted to see Jason also. Yeah, so I said, well, I said, well, then if you want to find out who he is, you need to start from the beginning. So I throw in Friday of 13th and the whole time, where's Jason? Where's Jason? I'm like, you got to wait. You got to wait. He doesn't really get the Jason that he knows until part three because the Jason we got in this was just the little images that we had during the dream.

Not, I was the second one. When his mom was thinking about him and we don't see him until the very end, spoiler alert. But what this film... He just has a bag over his head. Yeah, he was a sackhead is what... uh kane hoddard called uh steve dash he was jason and the second one uh when me and patrick went to the uh the jason panel at texas frime here but man we were fucked up during that panel but anyway um with this film uh when i first seen it my brother saw he saw it opening weekend and uh then we went on a camping trip

and on this camping trip he was telling me oh man i saw this movie friday thirteenth you need to see it um And he told me the whole story, so I knew it. I went in there, and I knew who the killer was and everything. But watching this film, 9-year-old Nez, man, this movie scared this shit out of me. Again, for you younger listeners and all that, when you're a little kid, I never saw nothing like this. Yeah, we saw Halloween, but there wasn't blood and gore in it. There was plenty in this one. Yeah, I mean, there was plenty.

Yeah, you watch it now, especially with the Blu-Rays and DVDs on how clear you can clearly see that it's just the special effects look garbage. But for 1980 and everything, Tom Savini did an amazing job with these special effects. And I mean, for what the story was, out of all, let's say 10 in the first series, and then the TV show and then the remake and then Freddy versus. Jason. You got to count everything. Yeah, the TV series had nothing to do with any of it. But for this film, it was just awesome. I mean, I just could not.

I knew what was coming because my brother told me the whole story, but I just could not look away. And it scared me. I mean, Betsy Palmer, Mrs. Forgeys. At this time, she was only known as Mrs. Voorhees. When she comes on the screen, Betsy Palmer. I mean, a lot of people knew who, I didn't know who she was.

I didn't realize that she had a big career before this film. And this actually, when she did this film, she didn't want to do it. But from what I read that she had car problems and they said, hey, we're going to give you this much money. And she's like, all right, well, I'll take it. I'll do the job. It's only like a couple days work and they're going to give me, I don't know how much, maybe 10 grand or something like that. So she can buy a new car. So she did.

Oh, shit. I didn't know that. So, I mean, she did the film just to get her a new car. Like I said, you only see her at the end. You don't see her all during the other things, all the other parts when the killing's going on. But because she read the script and was like, this is horrible. Who's going to go see this movie? And everybody went out to see it.

I don't remember how it did in the box office. I saw it a few times in the theater. I think it did really well. That first time, man. It scared the shit out of me. I always, I've told this story before. If you listen to my regular show, I actually did a like three-hour retrospect. perspective on all the films when I first started doing McNus podcast. I did it all solo by myself.

And I've always loved this film. I mean, Mike right here, he's his favorite is Halloween, the 78 John Carpenter film. But this one for me, I mean, Halloween scared me, but it didn't scare me as much as this one did. And I know some people are probably laughing like, oh, this movie wasn't a scary, dude. It was scary in 1980 for a nine-year-old. And, I mean, because we didn't have much. why at this time I didn't see a lot of the 80s ones that came out I seen them all now but once VHS rolled around

the ones that didn't come to the theater in my area up in me but I did see Maniac and Motel Hell and he knows you're alone and all that I saw all those in the theater but this one really scared me and what I liked about it the most I mean when I was young it was just

someone was on the screen killing people and I saw blood and all this and a lady getting her head cut off but with with this one this is also like a a story that could happen I mean you got you got this mother the counselors weren't watching her son he was mentally challenged and hands up drowning

yep and this was a mother I mean any of us any parent that's hearing this right now I mean if if you lost a child like that and and the rage that's inside of you of course man this lady just couldn't handle it she snapped it and then she goes back and and just takes it out on everyone She tried to stop that camp for years and years because it happened. I'm talking to my ass. Ninety- 1950, 58, right?

Yeah, 58 is when Jason drowned. Right. And this movie was, it said present time in the beginning, but they shot it all in 70. In 79 is when they came out in 80. So, but you just assumed it was 1980. So that whole time from 58 all the way up to 80, she was trying her hardest to stop that. I mean, even the town, the local towners, they were telling her, look, man, back during this day, the water went bad, and then there was a fire, and there was this and that, and then there was murders of the two, I believe those were the two camp counselors that they weren't watching them, that she killed. Yeah, it was like it was cursed.

Yeah, so, I mean, I like that. It had that local legend for this town, and it was just a mom that just lost her son, and she was mad and took revenge on all that, man. Yes, the movies got cornyer as it went, like. along, but I mean, this is the only one that was more real. This one was the only one that was like real that could happen of a mom just mapping. I don't know. Some of the other ones, I don't know, maybe I missed remember, but it seemed to me like, like at least like parts two, three, four were kind of like somewhat realistic. Well, the Paramount Years is what a lot of people call it.

And that's the first eight. Well, when they got into that stupid shit where he was got, going to New York and shit like that, that was dumb. I like that one. I do, too. I mean, I've liked all. The only one I hate, and you guys already know, is Jason goes to hell. That movie is fucking piece of shit.

Yeah, we know. I don't care what anyone says. That movie is horrible. And they're making a sequel to that, hey, they're making a sequel to that, dude, a fan film. You hear about that? I'll watch the documentary that's coming out. I thought maybe you were making it, Ness. No, of course, man.

Brian, he took a few stabs at me. I'll watch it. Of course, the making of Jason goes to hell. I like watching all those documentaries, anything dealing with Friday the 13th. But with this film, I mean, Victor Miller wrote, it was supposed to be one and done. Jason was dead.

He was never this being that can't be killed. It was never that. He was always dead, right? In 58, nothing else. And it was just going to be end with his mom. But since this movie hit so big, they were saying that it's, we need to make another one.

then because you talk to victor miller now i heard them on a podcast on a friday 13th podcast and he was like i didn't even want them to make more he goes but it wasn't it wasn't his call he wrote the first story they paid them um they were having this big uh court deal with uh i think right right infringement or something for the video game they couldn't they could they had to stop um making updates oh yeah yeah yeah heard about that it all got settled and i think it was more mainly of just they didn't want to pay him what he was owed. I mean, he created this

character Jason. Yeah, he didn't create the hockey match Jason, but he created the character or he wrote the character Jason. So he just wanted his, and I understand that, man, if I created something like that and they weren't going to give me my money for it, man, I'd stop them too. But I know a lot of people did go after

Victor Miller saying, oh man, you're just an asshole. Come on, let him so we can make more to the game. It's not his fault. And You guys would probably, any listeners would probably do the same thing if it was something that you created. But, I mean, this movie, it is what it is. I love it. Like I said, Tom Savini did an amazing job with the effects. The appearance of Jason, which we finally see at the end.

You do see him a little bit when his mom is talking about him. But, I mean, it was a good suspenseful movie. It was a who done it or who's doing it. And why? Because you never really know why this person is killing everyone until the very end. So, but I liked it. man, yes, the,

some of the actors weren't the greatest, the one goofy guy, Teddy here, I think that was his name. Yeah, he was goofy and everything. Is that the guy trying to be funny all the time?

Yeah, he got a little racist when he was dressed up as a, as a, yeah, and dancing around. But, I mean,

yeah, that's what it is, man. It was 79. Okay. But, I mean, this film is awesome.

I love it. And if it wasn't for this first film, you guys wouldn't have Jason. You wouldn't have this huge iconic slasher, murderer, serial killer, whatever you want to call them. So I always got to go back to this one. Like I said, this is my favorite horror film slasher, whatever you want to call it. And I love it. I mean, yes, everything.

I've enjoyed all of them except for nine. But yeah, this is my favorite one. Cool. Yeah, this is why we brought you on, man. All I'm going to say is 6.5. it's two-thirds good for me and I'm passing the baton on wow

throw this out there real quick you got to talk about the box office 59.8 million off of a $500,000 budget I will say I have the movie

how do I get it to you what's going on oh sorry there's guys machine guns. No, they're outside. Nez, are you getting taken hostage? No, we're actually sitting in a big, giant room.

I'll take pictures of it. This is probably the biggest room. Well, other than the theater screening, so this is probably the biggest room that we've screened this film. I thought I was going to have to give like a Liam Mason-taking speech. Just real quick, this movie scared the shit out of me when I was a kid. I didn't want, I was like, fuck camping, fuck summer camp. I'm not doing none of that shit.

not on the above Betsy Palmer she scared the shit out of me especially we didn't even talk about her iconic you know killer mom you know all that oh yeah that scared me it was hard for me to sleep after that

and then the whole Jason iconic scene popping out at the end yeah and it still blows my mind to this day that people still think Jason was the killer in the original one there's still people to this day

that think that Yeah, kind of weird how that grew, huh? Yeah. But iconic movie, iconic franchise might be might have created

one of my favorite all-time characters in Jason Vore. He's going into the later movie, so. Well, yeah, better than a 6.5, Lance.

Well, you guys are in the, you guys are the majority. What do you think, Phil? I really enjoyed this one. I went back. I'm not a huge fan of the Friday the 13th series. On the whole, you mean, like all 28 movies? Not because

I've watched them all and I hated them or anything. I know, right. What about the remake with Jason's like growing weed and stuff? You know, I like that, so. So do I. All right. I just like it the first time I thought, but I love it now. You like it better on the second viewing, huh? Yeah.

I don't have enough information on them, obviously. But, you know, I've seen a ton of Jason movies, but I can't remember all of them. This is the one that I remember. This is the one that started it all. I think it's okay that Jason wasn't the killer. I think that that last scene where he jumps out of the lake and grabs her is just the fucking cherry on top of the perfect Sunday. This was a great slasher movie, man. They had some really cool death scenes.

Some iconic stuff that really started it all, you know, that don't have sex or you're going to get killed. The Kevin Bacon getting it through the fucking throat. that was brutal as hell was this the first movie to have the crazy guy you know they always have the crazy guy that warns you oh yeah

maybe so nez you should or ask mike crazy ralph was that his name you're all doomed nez is is mike still there yeah he's right here ask him was this the first movie

that had the crazy dude that foretold the doom for everybody. Did you hear that? I mean the character? No, I mean just within any... Oh, within any horror film? Yeah, the doomsayer.

He was like hiding in a locker. Yeah, the doomsayer. Yeah, I think he... This was the first slasher film this feature someone like that to come out and give the warning. I mean, that's what was pretty original about Friday the 13th is like

you had someone kind of spoiler alert, but then again, it's like there wasn't really a spoiler alert because, you know, what followed was pretty graphic. But, yeah, thinking back, like, well, I mean, he wasn't really a doomsayer, but you can kind of look at his Dr. Loemus is like that. I mean, he was warned sheriff about the evil, the evil that came to Haddonfield. And so, you know, he wasn't as, you know, as dramatic as, you know, you're all tuned.

That dude, I mean, that, that dude is like the quintessential, creepy town guy that, you know, crazy Ralph. Everyone knew crazy Ralph. He was right, you know, and that's the funny part is the crazy dude was right. That's where the don't go in that door started. Yeah, I guess so, man. What I liked about Crazy Ralph is, I mean, especially if you live in a little town or even in a big city. I mean, you have that, that one person. Maybe it'll take you a minute to remember who that person is.

There was always someone in the community that was like this. Wanted to warn you about something. And it's queer because there was one guy at the Native Center that I used to go to. He always came around and told us all kinds of weird stories. Don't do this. Basically what Crazy Ralph was doing. Don't go here and don't whistle at night and don't run around or don't play with fire or bad things. There was always someone that was always a lot.

Don't play with fire. That's good advice anyway, man. But there was always somebody like that, but with Crazy Ralph, he started at all. Within the Friday 13th series, he did start it off because if you go into the other films, there was, Crazy Ralph was in the first two and died in the second one. But then in the third one, you got some crazy bum out in the lane in the road telling everyone, yeah, I found this, and he's holding eyeballs. Stay away.

and then yeah i mean there was all that or even going all the way up to part eight uh the jason takes manhattan you had that crazy ship and it was trying to warn everybody i mean that they always tried to throw somebody in it uh to try to warn them uh i don't think there was one in part five or if you looked at tommy jarvis was the one in part five because he he pretty much knew that there was still that jason was still alive you know he knew in some way jason was still alive so um He was trying to warn everybody by his way of acting psychotic and, you know, no one really listened. So, and then you saw what happened. But it wasn't really Jason in that one, you know, was this other guy.

But then, you know, some pushed him, Roy, some of the death of his son pushed him over the head. Spoiler alert. But yeah, that, that's, uh, it, Tommy was pretty much the doomsayer in that one. I think the first five movies were the ones that were kind of serious before you got, before you got the zombie. Just silly, huh? Yeah, before you got the zombie Jason, before you got the teleporting Jason and all that. Right.

But with this one... Worms coming out of his eyes and all that shit. Yeah, I mean, the first one, even the most iconic kill in this, and the first one is the death of Kevin Bacon. Yeah, the arrow. Yeah, I mean. Peggy and Stephen Loblad were talking about that

and list their feedback, Nez. Yeah, you're your main guy, uh, Nez, or your main guy, Stephen. Yeah. But yeah, I mean, with that, I mean, what they did to do with that scene, yes, there's this un-rate or uncut version Friday 13th. The only thing in that Blu-ray is Kevin Bacon's scene is just like maybe a second or two longer. That's it. The rest of the movie is still the same. But that extra two seconds of that death scene is awesome because it's a little more blood. I mean, a lot of you fans that do know this film and know some of the backstory with what, special effects during that scene

Tom Savini was him and I can't remember the other guy that was under the bed with him when they were doing it plus you had Kevin Kevin Bacon sticking basically just on his hands and knees or on his knees sticking his head up and the rest of it was all fake but they were saying that when they jam the arrow through the neck

one of the the little air squeezers that was supposed to pump the blood up one of them broke one of them broke off and they were already filming so they did it as quick as they could. Like, just go with it. Yeah, the other special effects guy just blew into it as much as he could, as hard as he could.

And you see how high that blood squirts. So, I mean, and it looked awesome. I mean, you watched that scene today, man. It looks cheesy and looks phony and everything, but it was awesome. I mean, that's what I loved about Tom Zavini and his whole special effects crew and what he did in this film. Or even the death of Annie in the beginning. the cook that was she was the first one to get it

other than the very first two in the beginning you watch that scene when she's running through she should have been dead when she jumped out of the Jeep because she landed right on her head but she runs off into the into the woods and what I like about this scene you watch let's say for those

you there's a lot of people that still watch VHS that love VHS and won't give it up I gave that up once DVD came out but I do have it on VHS Where do you find a VHS player anymore, Nes? Exactly. But you watch that scene on the VHS or the old, if you go to these, where they show it, the actual film reels.

If you go to these during the hallway season, they show it and it's the film. You can see how gritty it is and how it's not good. You go to DVD and Blu-ray where they cleaned it up, especially Blu-ray. You mean, you can tell it's fake and watching it, the old VH. or the film, but the way Blu-ray cleans everything so much, it just looks so bad. Better to watch the VHS, huh? Yeah, the latex doesn't even match her skin tone at all. Oh, man.

But it was still amazing effect, man. You just get that knife really quick, and then you see that open up and then the blood starts squirt now. I mean, everything in this, even the one dude that was hanging on the door, I don't know how Mrs. Vorhees had the strength. to pick him up, much less jam arrows through him and hang him on the door. Or get Mr. Christie and throw him up into a tree. I mean, yes, it's a ninja grandma.

But, I mean, because when you actually see Betsy Palmer and Mrs. Voorhe's at the end, you realize how this little lady do all that, especially with these big guys. I mean, but I don't know. Again, it's a movie and it's here to entertain us. And I can go all night about this. It's a classic. I've read so much about this and what they did to do to make this film. And I love it.

I mean, eventually sometime in my travels, I do want to make it over to Jersey to the town where they filmed this. I don't know about going to the camp. You can go to the camp. It's an actual Boy Scout camp that they use, but it's really guarded, mainly because of the hardcore Friday 13 fans like myself that would try to get over there and see it. Isn't that where they filmed that fan film Never Hike Alone or whatever? No, that was filmed somewhere else. Oh, okay.

But they did film, I want to say, sleepaway camp on the same lake. I could be wrong, but I want to say they did other things. What are those last movies? But, I mean, they can't, I can't remember the name. It's some native word, Namibu or something like that. But they do have tours every now and then. But those Friday 13 tours of the camp, they sell out, like, fast. I've tried the past couple years I've tried to just get a ticket to go.

And I can never get through. It's always sold out. Is it like an overnight thing? No, it's just a day thing. Oh, that would be cool. A camping thing there. That would be great. Yeah, I don't understand why they don't have an actual overnight.

If they do, I don't know. I get the newsletter. um of them when they announced the tours that i think they do two two tours a year um each time each time i try i can never get through it sells out so fast man and if anybody deserves to get through yeah man me man i'm probably older than other little pictures i see or young guys i'm like come on man give it to the o gs let me go and see other that that's my grace land the actual Camp

shit so I mean but yeah man again this movie is awesome I love it I know a lot of you young listeners

probably don't don't have the love for it that I do but yeah I mean it gave us Jason and it gave us Mrs.

Voorhees she was Mrs. Voorhees they didn't actually give her a first name until part four

um no shit yeah when you see her grave on the side of the road that's when you

see Pamela Vorhees for the first time no kidding I had no idea man yeah because they they was she was just mrs. vorhees and then we we finally get a name in the final chat but I mean overall like I said man it gives us Jason it gave us an awesome film in 1980 and and I love this film I mean it just it

opened the door to me for for this character had no idea when I first saw that it was going to go 10 movies and then all these other remake in the 2000 I can't remember what year that one came out And it's just, it's, it's crazy. Arguably the biggest horror icon. Yeah, I would say. But right after, well, I put Jason in front of everyone, but then there's always like, like Mike here, he'll put Michael Myers in front or the shape in front of Jason. But as well as this awesome film making the film with this with Sean, Sean Ness Cunningham and Victor Miller writing an awesome story, you can't leave out Harry Maffredini who did the score.

and it's an amazing it's amazing music I mean it's got iconic as well as John Carpenter's Halloween theme but I mean what I really like Harry Manfredini is he he did the music for the first few I want to say up to

four I could be wrong someone's probably yelling at me but what I really loved is he did he did the music for the video game which is awesome was it like an eight bit video game or what no not not that dumb Nintendo that you can never kill Jason. And, dude, to this day, I couldn't even tell you how to play that game.

It made no sense. It was what it was. It was early Nintendo, and that's what we got. And I'm a huge Jason collector. I buy the neck of figures. There's so many of them out there. There's a few that I missed, and I'm not going to pay high dollar on eBay for them. So, I mean, I do what I can.

can to get my hands on these Jason ones. There's so much Jason crap out there. I don't like the plushes. I don't like the little bobblehead ones. I do like the pops. I have all those. But just everything in this. I wish I could have got a Mrs. Voorhees with the, I can't remember. Side Show. I think they put out, I think it was a 12-inch. A doll is what my wife calls them. But I wish I could that's what she said. Not a doll. I wish I could have got that. But right now it's super pricey.

With this film, man, it's it's horror history. I mean, anyone that loves horror has seen this. Yes, not everyone likes this film, but it is what it is. It started off the whole franchise. And now it's it's this huge, iconic thing. Any horror con you go to, everywhere you go, you're going to see something Friday the 13th. No doubt. No doubt.

You see it. You see all the cosplay players. Everyone's Jason. Rare that you see in Mrs. Voorhees, but every now and then you do see that, man. But I love this film. If I'm going to give it, you guys already know, I'm giving it a 10th right out of the cast. Of course. We would expect nothing else.

Yeah, it's so iconic that Texas Frightmare last, last. year Philip you remember they had that uh the day the uh the uh dance floor area and they had the uh the sign for the camp there oh yeah i don't know if you kept with it on facebook somebody actually stole that sign oh did they yeah and they got real pissed off and said hey if you'll just return it we won't press charges and then uh they finally brought the sign back so and i remember seeing it at the beginning of the movie, the exact same sign. Well, I imagine that they're, I mean, if they stole it, they're probably real fans. And when they said to bring it back, they were like, oh, okay.

Didn't they find it in an elevator? Did they? I want to say they did, but I don't know, I could be wrong, but I do remember that. You can't remember it right on Facebook. Yeah, I remember going in there and seeing it. Like right before you walk into that room and it was right there, the big Cam Crystal Lake sign. and that thing was pretty big man whoever stole that man

it wasn't just like a cardboard sign it was like someone put time into making that and they just picked it up and the other thing that was weird about that they said they were going to watch the security cameras I mean there's cameras all over that hotel I don't know why yeah they couldn't catch whoever did it then but I don't know but they got it back so

it's all good cool all right well this is she's a fucking man She's back. This is why we brought you on, Kemp, so we could let you talk and we could just sit back and listen to all your Crystal Lake memories, baby. Like I said, dude, there's so much to go into this film. I mean, again, watch Camp Crystal Lake memories, read the book, or even there was other documentaries. There was one called, his name is Jason.

That one was cool. All these are on YouTube. Just look up that. that Friday the Camp Crystal Lake one it's like eight hours or something like that. I don't know. It's long. It's long. But I mean, I watch it from time to time.

All right. So you're 10. I'm six and a half. Where do Brian and Phillips stand? Nine and a half. Damn. I'm gonna go nine. I think... Shit. I'm in a minority here. I think this falls right into classic.

horror movie category, you know? I mean, it's not perfect by any means. It's 80s slasher. But it's 80s slasher that created the most iconic horror movie character ever. Jason. Bad ass. All right. So maybe Lance is becoming the

grouchy old man again and starting with the low scores. Here we go. Lance, did you see this when it came out? I did not see when it came out of. it on HBO, like maybe two or three years after it came out. Okay, because... And I thought it was badass. I mean, I enjoyed it, but

on retrospect, man, it's just not a 10. Six and a half's high, dude. Oh, man, you're smoking. This is a 10. Fair enough. Fair enough. I mean, they had everything. It had blood, it had nudity, had sex, it had beer, it had... All right.

It had everything. Before we move to the outro, Nez. What's you got going on besides your VIP expo tonight? As far as I think I don't know if I mentioned this on the last show. As far

as East Society, Zsie was finally done with court so we can get back to... Oh, no, you didn't mention that. Yeah, we can finally get back to our regularly scheduled programs. He's not going to jail? No, it wasn't him. He was

in the jail. Well, I know. But I figured him in the jury, he might end up going to jail. I asked him. I said, so was justice served? He went kind of. I was like, oh, all right. I don't know what the case was.

I don't know what the case was about. He did go into detail and what it was. But, yeah, that East Society is coming. Soon as probably when I get home, we're going to bust out an episode. Check out our anchor episodes as well. I got a lot of stuff on there. As far as McNez, I have two shows that I need, or one show. need to put together and just been lazy this week.

My whole adventure at Indigenous Comic Con and Albuquerque. I got interviews on that and then I'm going to just run through what I saw there. And East Society, I have my Navajo Star Wars special I need to put together. And I think that's it so far. We have a lot planned for our E Society, the Anchor Edition stuff. We've got a lot of ideas for that. Those are more shorter shows than what we do on the regular SkaterNess podcast network feed. do listen to both of those everyone

I mean it's just Zesot and I mainly me bitching about this and that but it's cool man and everyone that does listen to our shows as well as the horror returns thank you I mean if it's not wasn't for you guys I wouldn't sit in front of the microphone and do

it all the time or come on this awesome show I had a question when when did you guys start this uh 2016 like June or something like that. Yeah, it's been a couple years now.

Yeah, I think it would have in April to be three years. Holy shit. Yeah, our first show was Poltergeist was the old movie and the darkness. Kevin naked was the new movie. Horrible. Gotta start somewhere, Nez. Yeah, I mean, you got to start somewhere. I mean, everything I've done has it. It was gold to me.

People that didn't like it. And I'm always going to go back to which. board. And that's I was about to say it. Every time. Even Jesse takes a stab at you guys

with that. I don't know. Last few shows, he was like, those one guys that don't like witch board. Again, guys, thank you so much. I always love coming on here

and talking about this and that. Let me walk out of this room because they're turning on the movie right now. But yeah, other than that, that's what's coming. Just more East Society. Magnaz, I've got to put stuff together. And yeah, that's pretty much what's coming.

All right. As always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You know how to reach us. Next week, it's a Thanksgiving tofer, as we're going to bring you a double dose of the horror returns with Creed 2 and Rocky How's that for a horror show? We're going to be joined by special guest Melissa Stevens from Two Dead Chicks.

And we are also going to look into the horror movies of New Zealand. We've got a couple of special guests for that one. Darren Wilson from the Psychosomaticast, as well as film producer and writer Heather Buckley, will be on. So until the horror returns again, Phil? Wait a minute. Oh. Real quick.

I just want to say RIP to Stan Lee and I just want to say thank you thank you thank you for everything you've given us especially since I was a kid you've always always kind of been in my life

since I was a kid growing up as a fan of everything you've done so I just wanted to say rest in peace Stanley yeah a big rest and peace for me my whole family and both of the shows

Zisu as well he's given us so much shit I'm about to get all emotional I mean I met I was able to meet Stan Lee at common my very first I saw the pictures and I mean

I'm shaking his hand if you've seen the picture and I wrote in the caption man I was touching greatness and he created my all-time favorite Marvel hero which is Spider-Man that's probably the main reason why I hated venom but oh no

But it was awesome. He was so, he was such a cool guy. I mean, he gave me just the few minutes of time that I got to meet him. Shook my hand, signed my little thing that he had. And he was like, hey, man, thank you. Thank you for being a fan. And I couldn't believe it. And my kids, my older two, they met him as well.

And they have pictures of him. My son said he's going to get his picture blown up and put it in a frame. I'm doing that with mine, all three of the pictures I got. got with him but he was an amazing man i know a lot of stuff came out afterwards uh with all the haters uh of him on some stuff that they say he did we don't know if he did it or not but ah come on that whatever they're all there's always gonna be those people uh to come out of nowhere but man he's giving us so much i can't wait to see him in avengers four and i know damn well there's can be some tears shit on his uh his cameo so but yeah for everyone uh in his family our hearts

with you and rest in peace Mr. Stan Lee. And I think that takes the place of a good night. It's a rest in peace, Stan Lee. Yeah.