The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #13: You’re Next (2011) & Don‘t Breathe (2016) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: April 24, 2021

This week we check out Don't Breathe by Fede Alvarez and You're Next. Thanks for listening!

Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. I'm Lance, and with me, as always,

are my co-hosts, Philip and Brian. How's it going, guys? What's up? Pretty good. As with every show, let's get things started off with a brief discussion of our highlights of the week. Brian, what did you?

check out this week man okay um i checked out a few things i'm just gonna kind of run through them real quickly here got to see ghostbusters oh um i actually really enjoyed it yeah i'm kind of bummed uh i guess uh the sequel is not gonna happen they lost a lot of money on that one i think yeah no shit but um i enjoyed it um also checked out because i checked out ghost buster i checked out the um documentary on netflix ghost heads you know if you if you're into documentaries and ghostbubes I give it, you know, I give it a watch. It's on Netflix. I go for that.

So what did it, uh, what did it focus on? Was it like a, like a best of fans or was it the making movie? Yeah, fans. Fans dressing up in ghost, but, you know, I guess they, in each state, they got their own ghost bustlers. I know what you're talking about now. Ghostbusters, ghostplay, huh? Yeah.

I also checked out Underworld and Underworld Evolution. Oh. You know, they're, they're, they're cheesy vampire action movies, but, you know, you know, they're, they're, they're, but, you know, I like them. Dude, underworld's awesome. Yeah. That's classic. A Beggintel is so hot.

Like I said, yeah, she's hot, but that's just not my kind of movies. Not my cup of tea. No? Nah, a little too much to me like Twilight or something like that, you know? Oh. Another romance angle and all that bullshit. Yeah, but they make up with a lot of action in there. Yeah, there's a lot of action.

It's pretty cool. I like that one. That's one of my favorites. Almost caught up with Fear of the Walking Dead. About four or five episodes into season two. Ah, okay. I can talk about that a little bit. Okay, so one that they just started?

Is that still season two? Yeah, the second half of season two. I need to... Yeah, they're cut... It seems like that one and the Walking Dead, they're like splitting them up now. They'll do like eight episodes, and then they'll take, you know, like a two-month hiatus and do the next eight episodes. I lost my F and DVR. remote and when I looked it up on the internet I'm like

where's season two? What the fuck's going on? I've caught up with it at all. I'm liking it. Yeah. I'm really trying to catch up. Do you want? Right? Oh, you're not that far yet. He's not that far in yet. They're still on the yacht.

Yeah, they're still on the yacht where I'm at. Okay. How's Tijuana though? Because they're there now, right? I hate to spoil it for you, man. Yeah, I mean, if we're going to, if we're going to go ahead and go into, you know, getting ahead of where you are, Brian, a little bit. I actually saw the first episode of Part 2. It's been up for a couple weeks now, right? I think it came out last Sunday.

I think the second was actually playing tonight. I'm not as far behind as I thought I was. But, yeah, this one's all about Nick. The entire episode is about Nick. So he seems to be one of the more, you know, the guy that used to be the junkie. Yeah, yeah, the Johnny Depp look alike. The Johnny Depp look like, he seems like he's going to be one of the more resourceful members. Because he's already learned what it took them, like, what, four or five episodes to learn in the,

or four or five seasons to learn the regular Walking Dead about smearing the zombie blood on you to mix him. And he's already walking around with him and going wherever the hell he wants. Yeah, he's doing that at the very beginning. Yeah, he's pretty much got it figured out. It was a good episode. Like I said, it focused only on him, which gives me some hope that maybe the next episode. We'll just focus on like Madison and Travis or somebody like that wherever they're wherever they're going because as you remember ever well you don't know Brian but everybody kind of got split up at the end of the the first half of part they all died. That's what happened. Sorry bro. Uh-oh. Spoiler alert. Yeah, I'll be caught up by next episode or next week. Well good. Me too. A couple more things I checked out. Hardcore Henry. How'd you like that one?

I actually liked it. Made me want to play video games. And another one I'll probably talk about a little bit more later on the episode is the people under the stairs. Oh, right? Which was actually the one we were going to cover this week, but we kind of had a last minute change, right? Yeah, so I'll talk about that a little bit more later on the episode. My wife was actually excited about watching that one with me, and then I was like, yeah, we're not watching that anymore. We can always still talk about it, you know?

So that's pretty much I've seen all week. Cool. What about you, Philip? Man, I actually, a re-watched Suicide Squad. Especially after our conversation with how Scatterbrain the plot was and everything, it sort of hammers at home to me. That it was still scatterbrain. Yeah, it was still scatterbrain.

Because, yeah, man. Unlike Fine Wine, it did not improve with age. Like, it gets all the way through the middle. movie and you still don't like these guys still don't know why they're doing what they're doing. Without too far into it in case anybody. Yeah, I'm going to end up

watching it. My daughter wants to go see it. Yeah. So like and people I was trying to explain my rating because I believe I gave it like a five or a six. I didn't hate the movie. It's just knowing a little bit about the background of the characters I just felt like I didn't get some of that.

I think that a six, because I'm pretty sure that's what I gave it. I think that's still a solid score, man. Because if you go back and watch it, it's fun to watch. It really is. But there's some serious plot holes in it. And some of that stuff, you just kind of have to... Just go with it.

Wait, but wasn't that... Oh, fuck it. Something blew up. Yeah, I kind of told people, like, if I didn't know anything about the characters, I probably would have gave it, like, maybe like a six and a half, seven, maybe. but just knowing about the characters

and I expected something out of them that's why I gave it to score I did So you kind of know they bastardized the story a little bit Yeah I was Like the Joker I kind of like felt like he wasn't necessary to be in the movie Yeah he totally wasn't I mean he could have

He was in it as much as he should have been anyway Yeah he could have popped up at the end to set up another movie. Right. Which, from what I'm hearing, he doesn't want to play the Joker no more. Oh, yeah. Which kind of sucks, because I liked him, actually.

He said he got tricked into doing the role. Yeah. He got jerks into it. I guess there's a lot of footage of the Joker that they took out of the movie. Right. Well, that makes sense. Because I feel like he was really into that part

for having, you know, three scenes. Yeah. And I watched probably my favorite movie right now, sausage party. Oh, no shit? What'd you think, man? It's so funny. I like cartoons and I like Seth Rogen, man.

So when you combine the two together, and every cartoon that comes out, I have kids, so I see every cartoon that comes out probably 50 times. When this one came out, I was pretty excited about it. So I think that it's like watching a cartoon as a kid, but it's four adults, you know? Yeah.

I mean, obviously, that's what it is, but man, it, they really, they really brought it. It talks about religion, they get into everything. All the, uh, all the little pieces of food are from, like, different ethnicities and background. Yeah, it's, it's totally sacrilegious, but it's funny. Yeah, I've heard it had a lot of religious undertones in it, which kind of surprised me. What would you rate it if you had to give it a rating? I'm going to rate it an eight, man. really liked it. No shit. Yeah, dude. It's my favorite movie right now. I totally go back and

watch it again. Damn. It's funny. It's really funny and it's it's got that rewatchability. You know what I mean? Like movies like Austin Powers and Jay and Salent Bob stuff, like I'll go back and rewatch that over and over and over. Never gets old, right? Even though maybe they weren't the greatest movies when they came out, I can watch it over and over. And I think this is one of those that I can watch over and over. That's cool, man. Yeah, that's a good. comparison the Austin Powers movies.

Yeah. So it had that many laughs in it, huh? Um, I thought so, yeah. Cool. There was, the, the bad guys is a douche, like an actual douche. You mean literally? It's literally a douche. Because they're all shopping cart items, you know?

Oh, shit. You've got to be kidding, dude. I'm a douche, bro. I'm going to get up in that. Oh, fuck. It's so funny. It's Nick Kroll. Oh, no, you're kidding, dude.

From the troll show, yeah. Oh, wow. Okay, I had no idea, man. Kristen Wigg plays the bun. She's the female. There's all kinds of people. Edward Norton, Jr., or, Edward Norton plays a, like, a Jewish bagel.

Oh, my God. There's so many big, big names stars in this movie, too, right? Yeah, it's funny. It's worth watching. Yeah, well, you guys were talking about the Joker earlier. Yeah. And I watched, last night I watched The Killing Joke. They animated.

cartoon. Yeah? Okay. Wasn't too bad. I watched the the shortened version. A friend of mine actually edited one down for me to watch that Jack, he was on our show a couple of weeks ago. Yeah, yeah. He said the hour and 30 minute

when he said, don't even waste your time. Really? Yeah, he edited it down to 45 minutes and it's actually more lockstep with the actual comic book, the graphic novel. Wow. Yeah, it wasn't too bad. I mean, it was crazy. The animation wasn't the best. Unfortunately, that kind of took you out of it a little bit. But, I mean, it was worth

watching. Yeah, the only other thing I watched this week was a movie on Netflix called They Look Like People. You've seen it on Netflix, right? Yeah. Yeah. It kind of ties into what we're going to talk about with Your Next tonight, because it's, I would consider it very much a Mumble, a Mumblecore or Mumble Gore movie. Mumblecore? Yeah, which I'll get a lot more into when we're talking about your next. And the group of people that make those kind of films. But basically they're movies that they're either horror movies or they're not, but they're a real small independent, super, super low budget movies.

And they depend a lot more on story and dialogue than they do like special effects and stuff like that. So, I mean, there were some really creepy moments in it. But at the end, it was kind of disappointing. I expected more out of it. But, I mean, the bottom line is this guy starts getting weird phone calls from people that telling him, you know, people that you see around you aren't who you think they are. So he starts thinking, oh, man, it's the end of the world.

And there's like, you know, some kind of weird aliens or zombies or something taken over. Yeah. And it gets kind of weird because it's like he gets his friend, I don't want to spoil too much of it if you see. But he gets him into a position where he could easily kill him. You get, you know, basically handcuffs the guy and puts a bag over his head. And the guy says, look, man, I know you're, I don't believe what you're saying, but I trust you. you're my friend, I've known you forever. And then you're kind of thinking, okay,

there's something really, really big's going to happen? I was just kind of disappointed. I thought it didn't go as far as it should have. Is it a series or a movie? It's just a movie. Oh, okay. I think probably an hour and 22 minute movie. I would not recommend it.

I mean, I'd say if you're totally out of everything else to watch on Netflix, check it out. But I was expecting a little bit more out of it than that. There's never out of Netflix, man. No shit. The road goes on forever. The party never ends, right? So now, as always, it's time to take a little trip down to the trailer park.

Brian, what's our first trailer to talk about this week? First one we're going to talk about is Clown Town. Clown Town. And that's singular, right? All one word? I think so. Yeah, we had a little trouble finding the right trailer. According to YouTube, it's one word.

What do you think? It looked like just another crazy clown movie, but the thing that got me intrigued, that I guess it's based off a true story or true events. Oh, yeah, I saw that at the beginning of the preview. That's what it says. There's no way, but that's what it says. I don't think that's possible, but what do I know?

I mean, when I was watching it, I kind of got a vibe from, what was that? what's what's that movie that's going to come out here soon uh 31 from uh rob zombie oh kind of got a little bit of that vibe really yeah i don't think i've seen that preview or anything yet yeah it's uh i think it's about to come out real soon uh rob zombie's new movie oh 31 yeah yeah no 31 i'm looking forward to yeah he said he got yeah i kind of got a vibe like that Yeah, clowntown, at least the trailer, I'm gonna bored the fuck out of me. Nah, yeah, I didn't see anything in there that really appealed to me.

I'm a lot more interested in checking out 31, to be honest with you. I thought it's pretty creepy, man. Yeah, I mean, it has clowns, so. Well, that's part of it. It's creepy. Yeah, I mean, I thought it was kind of creepy, but it just, I don't know, it didn't seem like one I'm going to run to the theater and watch if it comes out the theater.

I think it'll probably be like VOD or... Yeah. It's probably not one that I'd go watching and pay money for. But if it was on demand or something, I'd totally check that one out. Right? Yeah, I'm not even... I mean, you know, I just finished watching a shitty movie on Netflix.

That was just telling you guys. I'm not going to fucking run out and see... Invest any more time. I'm not going to run out and see this one, guys. Sorry. Yeah, I think we should just go ahead and move on to the next trailer, which is The Good Neighbor, starring James Kahn. Oh, wow, man, James Kahn, what a great actor, but what the fuck was this trailer all about, guys? Oh, man, I'm not really sure exactly what's happening.

That's what I was going to say. I don't know exactly what's going on here, and I think it's kind of meant to do that. I don't know if the kids are like just fucking with him or if this is some kind of expect. airment they're doing. Right. But, I mean, I got kind of, I got, you know when you first watch the don't breathe trailer and you seen the girl chained up? Sure. And you wanted to, you wanted to know what that was all about.

Yeah. The, the whole thing in the trailer about what's in the basement, that kind of made me want to watch the movie. This had a very don't breathe feel to it to me. Yeah, you said that right away. Yeah, I was like, this is the movie, like, if this had come out earlier, this is the movie. movie we should have done with Don't Breathe. Yeah, very, very similar, huh? I might check this one out just off of that.

You know, it kind of gave you that don't breathe feel. And, you know, you want to find out what's in the basement. Mm-hmm. Oh, yeah, James, James Conn, I mean, he seems like a psycho old man, so. Yeah. I'll tell you what, James Conn is getting fucking old, huh? Yeah, that's the first thing. I looked at him and I'm like, holy shit.

Is that him? Yeah. He's old. Jesus Christ. Yeah. This one's coming out pretty soon, September 16th. Okay. Wow, that's like in a week or two.

I mean, yeah, nothing about this trailer really excited me, guys. Yeah, like I said, I just want to find out what's in the basement. Right. So, I mean, I don't necessarily think I'm going to go to the theater to sit there to find out that one part. Well, I would have said that about the Don't Breathe movie also, but I don't know. I think it was worth it. I'd totally go watch this one. As long as it's not up against anything,

I don't know what's coming out that weekend, but as long as it's not up against any kind of superhero movie or some sort of blockbuster that's coming out at the end of the summer. It's Blair Witch. It's coming out saying it's Blair Witch. Oh, well, that's probably bad idea because I'd rather go see Blair Witch.

Yeah. On Name Along. And our final trailer is a movie that I didn't even think was even going to come out this year because it got pushed back so many times was rings. I saw that one.

The trailer for that was on the Don't Breathe movie. Really? Yeah, yeah. That's, I think Lance and I both saw it there and we went to see the movie

at several times. Yeah, I didn't get that. I got a bunch of shitty trailers with mine. Really? I did too, but I did get, I did get rings.

That's what we were talking about. Yeah, before, before Don't Breathe. Guys, I didn't like the ring. I didn't give a fuck about the ring too. What? And I sure as fuck, don't give a fuck, about rings.

Now, you guys may feel differently, but I've got no desire to see this piece of shit. I like the first one. I don't really remember the second one. I don't know. I mean... I'm probably going to say the same thing you just said. I don't know. I mean, maybe it's just to the point where what's the point of making another rings movie.

Right. The thing that's kind of got me worried was this movie's been pushing. back so many times to where last time I read anything about this movie a lot of people didn't even think they were even going to get this movie done this year. Well now wait a minute

weren't they supposed to do the something versus the ring or something like that or am I thinking of it? Oh, let me know what happened to that. Yeah, that's that's that's from the original Japanese, I believe it's Japanese I might be wrong about that. The ring versus the grudge. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Yeah, God damn it. if it's not the Japanese doing that, then I don't know who else it is. Yeah, fuck that shit. No, I really like the first ring. I thought that was... I really like that Japanese-style horror, though. I thought when it came on the scene,

ring was kind of the first big one. Right. Did you like Naomi Watts? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I like Naomi Watts. Just didn't care for it, man.

And I thought that it was... It was something different in the world of that you didn't really see at that point in time, you know? Right. So I thought that the first one was kind of iconic just because of that. Kind of like the mid, mid-90s, late 90s or something like that. Yeah, whenever it was that came out, but it started that whole Japanese horror phase, you know? Right.

Yeah, the ring, the grudge and all that stuff. But the ring is always the one that you name first. I don't know. I mean, I really like that one. This one, on the other hand, it's like the ring. but over the internet connection and now they're like on a plane and showing it to all these people

and there's like blood flowing through the seats. Ah, fuck. That looks so goddamn stupid, dude. So fucking stupid, man. Yeah, I don't know. I think that you can't really bring something like that into the modern world. I mean, that was the only part I really like, though, was they modernized it.

Because, I mean, really, who's got a VCR anymore? No shit. Oh yeah, they did show a fucking VCR, didn't they? That's why it was cool for when it came out. That's why I don't think it's going to work now. Pop this tape in, huh? Yeah, I think that's why it's not going to work now. I think this movie's going to bomb. Yeah, I think so too. That's what they get the ring on laser disc or something, huh? Like go real old school. See, you're going to say some shit like that and somebody's not going to know what the fuck you're talking about.

Like an 8-track, the 8-track ring, man. Somebody's not going to know what you're talking about, lazy disc. well fuck dude sorry guys but none of the trailers this week got to me at all is that all of them brian just to let everybody if you guys are interested in seeing the ring it comes out october 28th all right

hey at least something close to halloween huh yeah but it's not I don't think it's what anybody wanted so you said there was one more trailer we watched yeah it was uh tell me how I die oh yeah do you guys want to talk about this one I don't

but you guys go ahead man I thought it looked like a piece of shit yeah this is a I mean Philip you want to talk about it because that looks how you really think if you want to talk about it Philip I'm not interested in this one at all

no no this is another one of those where if it was on Netflix I'd watch it but I'm probably not going to the theater man I don't even know if I'd watch it if it was on Netflix Brian what's in the news

this week man um it was was just recently announced that, you guys, you guys know who the Justice League is, right? Well, there's a Justice League Dark. Yeah,

they're, originally they were going to do an animated movie, but they just announced they're doing a live action movie. Yeah, if anybody doesn't know the Justice League Dark,

it's more of their, like, supernatural characters. It's going to have John Constantine. Is Blade in there by any chance? Oh, no. See, yeah, I don't know

what they did is. That's Marvel. Okay, so Constantine, Who else is in it? More of the familiar characters is Swamp Thing. Oh, wow, okay. I guess you've got to be really into the comics, because some of these I don't know.

Madam Zanadu, I believe. Dead Man. Okay. It's more DC's like, like I said, mystical, supernatural characters. Oh, I got to. See, that's my thing, man. I'm more of a Marvel guy.

I'm not sure really who all these characters are. I guess Swamp Thing is D.C., huh? When this was originally announced, I was really looking forward to it because Guillermo Del Toro was going to do the movie. Ah, okay. And he had written a script, but typical Del Toro,

he's got like a thousand things going at the same time because he's known for dropping out of stuff. Yeah. And so he won't be doing this one. So I don't even know if they're even using the script he wrote. But it will be directed by Doug Lyman, I believe is his name, who did Edge of Tomorrow and The Born Identity.

Okay. So. I thought that was cool. I liked Edge of Tomorrow. I'd watch that. Yeah, that movie really surprised me. Yeah, me too. Because I didn't really want to see it, and I had went with a friend, and I was loving the movie.

Yeah, it didn't get a whole lot of hype behind it. It kind of went under the radar, and I thought it was pretty awesome. Yeah, that was the one based on the book, right? Where he basically would die, and then he'd be in a battle, and he'd die, and he'd be in a battle, and he'd die, and then he'd wake up again the next day and start the battle again? Yeah. Yeah. I think,

I'm not too bad. Futuristic. I think the book was called Live, Die, Repeat. Which it confused a lot of people because when the movie came out, it was Edge of Tomorrow, but when the Blu-ray DVD came out, it was Live-Dy Repeat. I remember they had that thing going. Yeah. They should have just renamed the whole thing, Edge of Tomorrow.

Why? Just. I'm more into it. I like the supernatural stuff. And, you know, even though the movies were cheesy back in the day, I love the Swamp Thing movies. Yes, me too. And there's a rumor that they're trying to get Ron Perlman to play Swamp Thing.

Oh, come on, dude. Are you serious? Yeah. It's just a rumor. I don't know. Why not? Played helpful, he can do that one. Yeah, he can do anything, right? Yeah. He played Clay in a sense of anarchy. You know, he's got it covered. Yeah.

Well, I'll definitely check it out. Hopefully it's better than Suicide Squad, right? hopefully I love Suicide Squad It's fun Yeah I gave it more than a five Would I give it like a six

Six and a half Something like that I think so Yeah Yeah like Oh the plot sucked Yeah But the action

The action was good in it Yeah like I told everybody You know I had people come up And ask me A couple of my friends That listened to the podcast I told none of us

Didn't we didn't hate it It's just No we didn't hate it at all Yeah There was just some problems In the movie But from what I'm hearing you know, Justice League, the other Justice League movie,

what I'm hearing, they learn their mistakes from Batman versus Superman and... That's what I thought when I went into suicide squad. Same old song and dance. All right, man. I'll believe it when I see it, man. I'll believe it when I see it. Anyway, what's the next thing? The next thing is, are you guys familiar with a book, a shark attack book?

called Meg? Yes, definitely. Isn't Eli Roth supposed to be involved in that one? Not anymore. You're shitting me, dude.

This movie has been in development since 97. Jesus. That's true? Ninety- Yeah, but they are like... That was fucking 20 years ago, man. Yeah, but they are like full steam

going ahead now. Yeah, they got a whole bunch of... Sure they are. Absolutely. Let's see. They just... recently casted Jason Statham. Really?

Yeah, are you guys familiar with Rain Wilson? Of course. He's a great comedy actor. Rain Wilson. Yeah, he's also in it. The guy from, the guy from the office? Yes. He was also in Super.

And do you remember House of a Thousand Corpses? Yes. He was the, what was it, the mermaid boy or something like that that they turned him into? Oh, he was in that. I forgot about that. Oh, what other casting. Are you guys familiar with Ruby Rose? Not at all. Are you?

She's on the... What does that show on Netflix? Orange's New Black. Oh, yeah, yeah. She was the hot, the hot new little lesbian thing on Orange's the New York. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She's... Sounds promising. She's been casted in it, and...

She's kind of a good girl now. That'll bring some... That'll bring some stuff to it there. Okay. Yeah. And they got a, they set it at release date of March 2nd, 2018. You get a little ways to wait then, huh?

Yeah. Well, they're, yeah, previewing movies from 10 years out now. It'll be here before you know it, right? And our final thing we're going to talk about. Are you guys familiar with the VHS movies? I love them, dude. As a matter of fact, there's going to be a lot of talk about them tonight when we're talking about your next, I have a feeling.

Yeah, one of the, the story, one of the segments from the first one is getting a spinoff movie. Oh, come on. A whole movie? Yes. Was it the, uh, which segment was it? Was it the, uh, succubus that, uh, flew up in the, in the air with the guy and dropped him and everything? Yes, I believe that's the one. That was the memorable one. I remember that one. Yes, that was a good one. Yes. It's actually going to get a full feature-length film now, huh? Yeah, I believe. I believe her name is Hannah

Fearman. Okay. I don't know if I'm saying her name, right. She was the, she played the, the succubist. Right. She's returning to play the role again. I believe the director of it,

Derek Bruckner. Okay. He's, I believe he's directed. I don't know, I can't remember if he directed the segment or not, but he's directing the movie. David,

Breckner? Yes. Okay, cool. Yeah, because he's, this, this is actually, the thing I really liked about the first,

VHS movie is that it did have four completely different stories, right? And I think every single one of them was good. And you guys last week talked about, or y'all alluded to the one that was in the haunted house. Yes. With all the hands that were coming out and grabbing people and stuff like that when they went through the house. I really enjoyed the first VHS movie was great. The second one was, you know, so-so and the third one was, yeah, not as good. but I'm kind of enjoying these movies where they'll put like three or four stories in one movie.

That's what I'm worried about this one. Because I think part of the reason that succubus thing worked so well. Because it was short. It was because it was short. Short, sweet, and to the point, right? It had a whole lot of mysterious behind it and you're like, what the fuck just happened? And it was the only one where when it ended, I was like, oh man, I really want to see more of that. When they give you what you really want, that's not what you really want.

I'm telling you this movie's not going to be. And this one part I read, Lance, you'll probably appreciate this. It will not be found footage. Okay, that's good. I don't like found footage. Well, that's what the succubis thing was, wasn't it? Yeah, it was pretty much all found footage, remember? Didn't they even, like, drop the camera or something like that?

Yeah. Somebody found it. That's why it worked when it was so short. You know what? I enjoyed it. I'll be the first should, man. I really enjoyed that one. Yeah, I really did.

And it's actually. coming out pretty soon, December 2nd? Really? Cool. No, I was just look at Breitner's filmography here, and he has worked with a lot of our good friends that we're going to be talking about later tonight. Okay. He actually worked on the Signal.

So there's going to be a whole group of people that when we talk about your next, we're going to be discussing, and they tend to do movies together. Okay. Sometimes they're writing, sometimes they're directing, and sometimes they're acting. whole subgenre that we're going to be discussing a little bit later tonight and Breckner seems like he's uh he's pals with a lot of those guys so it kind of kind of falls in

line with what we're going to talk about tonight okay so if anybody's interested it's uh December 2nd it's going to be on DVD digital HD and VOD cool I mean I'll I'll check it out I don't know if it's going to be worthy of being on the show but I mean it's something I will I will definitely like to watch oh yeah it's definitely watchable just because the uh short was so good. And that is all the news we have. All right folks. So now it's time to go into our featured attractions. This week, we actually were going to, we kind of changed our mind at the last minute, right? We were going to do people under the stairs and we sort of changed it. And after watching Don't Breathe, I think you guys would agree. People under the stairs might have been just a little too on the nose,

right? Yeah. Yeah. You know, I mean, what we try to do here on the show is, is, is, is, is two movies with similar themes to kind of show how the same basic storylines will continue over the years of the decades. But we don't want to basically show the same exact, or talk about the same exact movie.

Yeah. Which the people under the stairs and Don't Breathe were very similar. Very similar indeed. So Don't Breathe was directed by Fetti Alvarez. Brian, do you remember what else he was known for?

the evil did remake and what did you guys think about that? I love that movie me too yeah yeah a lot of people now you're talking about the one

that just came out yeah yeah yeah no 2013 I really liked it I thought it was awesome I thought he held true to the original had nothing to do with ash or anything like that

that's why some people got kind of been out of shape well I guess but I mean with the with the way they really tore into the gore and everything man I really liked it

But that's why I loved it because, I mean, he took the elements that you needed to make it an evil dead movie. Yeah. And I felt like he made it his own. Yeah. Well, he actually also co-wrote this with Rodo Sayyugaz. And those two also worked together on the Evil Dead movie. So it looks like they're going to kind of be a thing. Some of the trivia for this movie, Stephen Lang were contact lenses that greatly restricted his vision.

particularly in low light. The other actors in the scene taking place in the dark were lenses that made them look like they had dilated pupils. You guys remember that scene? Oh, that makes sense. When they were kind of like moving their hands out and walking through the hallway there?

It looks like it's like in night vision. I thought they did a good job on that, actually. I did too. They didn't do the same green thing that, you know, Paris Hilton did. Exactly. Stephen Lang, for our listeners who you don't know, is a very prolific actor.

who you may or may not know by name, but I guarantee you, you've seen him in countless other films, including Avatar, gods and generals, fire down below, and many TV shows, including Salem. He usually plays an asshole.

He can definitely play a badass, can he. Director and writer Fetti Alvarez, writer Rodo Seyages, producer Sam Ramey and Rob Tavert, composer Roque Bonos and actress Jane Levy all collaborated on the Evil Dead remake in 2013

Oh wow Yeah so obviously these guys like working together Yeah How long ago was it that you saw the movie? I saw it yesterday morning So it's still kind of fresh in your mind Yeah still pretty fresh still pretty fresh What do you think?

I liked it I thought it was it was super tense Wow way tense There's so many moments where it's just total silence. As much as I hate to feel for these motherfuckers that broke into this blind guy's home. But he wasn't that innocent. Yeah, but that's who you're kind of pulling for, you know. And I told you guys, remember when we watched the trailer for this, you guys were like, oh man, these guys are breaking into this blind guy's home and just victimizing him. And I said, hold on now. He may not be as innocent

as you think he is. But it's all about how you portray the movie. You know what I mean? In this particular film, I mean, you're going for, your protagonists are the robbers, you know what I mean? Right. And so that you're real tense for them the whole time. But if I take a step back and go, they shouldn't have broke into that motherfucker's house. Yeah, I

had people cheering for Stephen Lang in my theater. Yeah. When he was beating, when he was beating the about. Break into my motherfucking house, bitch. This movie, it was a little slow at first for me the whole setting up getting into the house.

Kind of a slow burn, huh? Slow building. Yeah, but once... I like that. I actually kind of wanted more of that, to be honest with you. I thought they kind of moved it a little too fast. I would have preferred maybe 10 or 15 minutes more of the backstory. Really?

Yeah, I really liked her. I liked the character, and I wanted to get to know her more. Yeah, I wanted a little bit more backstory on the other guy. Right. Not the asshole boyfriend, but the other kids. Money? The other good guy. The one who seems like a super clean cut kid and how in the hell did he get mixed up in this shit?

Exactly. I was like, how do you know these people? He was kind of the brains of the operation, right? Wasn't it his dad that owned the security company? Yeah. So he had the codes and everything for the alarms? And I wouldn't say that we're giving away too much at this because that's, that's, you know, the first 10 seconds in the movie. But yeah, his dad is the owner.

I guess he works for an alarm system company or something, but it still doesn't explain how he gets wrapped up with these other kids. You know what I mean? Exactly. Right. I can't think of too much else she's been in, but I do remember her in that. And don't you guys think that... She's a good actress. I like her.

She's very good, dude. Very good. And don't you think the guy we're talking about his name is Alex, the more, quote-unquote, innocent kid? The clean-cut kid. Yeah, the clean-cut kid. And don't you think he was in love with Rocky? Oh, yeah. Wouldn't you say it was safe to say he was in love with Jane Levy's character?

Yeah, absolutely. Oh, shout of that. cared about her a lot? Yeah. Yeah, because I... I think that has to be the only reason he's even connected with them at all. That's what I was thinking. That's what I think got him into that.

But when you were saying they could have gone back another 10 or 15 minutes, I think that that's where they could have invested their time. Couldn't agree more, man. Figuring out that relationship. There should have been more backstory. Yeah, they don't go into him at all. Yeah. Even though I felt the end was a little, or not the end,

the beginning was a little slow. Yeah. I would have rather them have a little bit more backstory. Yeah. Because here's this nerd that's involved with these two thugs. Yeah, I mean, I couldn't

Brian, I couldn't disagree with you more. I really, really wish they'd spent at least 10 or 15 more minutes in the beginning building it. Because I was enjoying the film and then all of a sudden they were doing the job, you know?

It's like they're talking about the job and hey, here's a chance to get all this money. The guy has to have at least, what was it, $300,000 or more from his insurance settlement from his daughter dying? Yeah. Yeah. And, you know, from that point of view, I could have done with a little less intensity once they actually started doing the time. You think so?

Yeah. It could have taken a little bit off of my heart, man. Because it was real tense, like from the time that they... Super tense. Yeah, from the time that they got there to, you know, the time that shit started going down, it was like intense. And it was super, everything was quiet. And it was one of those really tense. moments, you know, and you can't... If they'd have taken some of the time off of that and explained a little more of the story

between these kids, I think that, yeah, you're right, that probably... Yeah, I totally agree with you because once Stephen Lang's character came into the situation... Yeah? Because my son came with me, and as soon as he came into the situation, we both kind of sat up in our chairs. Yeah. Kind of like, you know, okay, it's about... It's about to get good right here. Well, yeah, immediately.

Well, because they... I mean, they jumped. into it. They put you in the shoes of the robbers and that's why it's so tense, you know what I mean? I mean, because it's like you're breaking into the house with these guys. They're like, well, and that's why they have this Alex kid here. You know what I mean? You're supposed to feel for him.

Mm-hmm. You know? Oh, this is a bad idea. Fuck it. Here we go. Right? But it was a big payoff. Yeah. They pulled it off. Well, yeah. What did you guys think about Stephen Lang's dog? Okay. I had a Rottweiler and he was the best dog I ever had,

so I was really thrilled about this pot. Super sweet dog, right? Yeah, no, no. Totally I don't like the one in the movie. No, it is. And Roddy's get a really bad rep because this dog is great with kids and stuff, but I always enjoy it when they have Rottweiler's off.

I like the Tate. Yeah, very similar to another movie with the Rottweiler. The people under the stairs. Ah! Very, very similar. Rottweilers are always, always in scary movies, because they're scary dogs, you know. I mean, if you run into a Rottweiler in the middle of the night, that's scary.

And, man, my dog was sweet as shit, but if you ran into him in the middle of the night and didn't know him, that's a scary sight to see. Right. It's why I had him. So what did you guys think about the photography, like the shots of the... Actually, a lot of this film, I noticed at the end,

they were going through the credits was filmed in I think it was Hungary. Do you guys noticed that? At the end of all the really weird first and last names of people in the credits. Oh, okay. And it was like, what the fuck? Are these like Russian names or something like that? And I looked it up

and almost all the interior shots were filmed in Hungary. Really? Yeah, but the exterior shots were all filmed in Detroit. Okay. And if you think about it, Detroit's falling on a pretty hard time. right guys?

Yeah. Yeah. So did you guys think they did a pretty damn good job of capturing that desperation and those, they say like three out of every four homes in Detroit are empty right now. Really? Yeah, people have either moved out or abandoned or been foreclosed on. Yeah, man, they definitely captured that. It almost looks, now that you mentioned it, it's kind of surreal, you know,

because it almost looks like it's one of those post-apocalyptic things. and it's not that's not yeah I mean and it just goes back to what we were just talking about with the one kid you know how are you mixed up in all of this again I think that that's the character that we were supposed to relate to you know

just in the general audience you know from the second that they come out with the idea of this whole heist you know in your head you're thinking everything that this kid thinks that's why he's there right you're like oh this is a bad idea yeah, we shouldn't do this. Oh, I guess we're going to do this.

And that's why it's so tense. And I think that that's why it draws the audience in. There was no way you were going to be rooting for. What was his name? Money? Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Money was anything but, huh?

Although, I do kind of wish that they hadn't. Money was a bitch. Ah, all right, right. I'm glad you. Yeah, I know. I'm glad you stopped me in the middle of that sentence because I was about to go into it. Here's one thing I will say.

And this kind of disappointed me. From watching the trailer, I think the trailer gave too much away. What do you guys think? Well, the trailer didn't give any more away than we're giving way right now. And I don't think that any of this is actually spoiling the movie

because the setup of the movie is what gets you to come see it. There's obviously some twist endings and stuff that's going to happen that we're not going to spoil until the spoiler episode. I mean, there's a couple of super big twists. Yeah.

There's two of them. Yeah. And it's funny because the first twist, I did not in any way form or fashion see it coming. Did you guys? No, no, not at all. But by the time they get to the second twist, kind of toward the back, I was kind of seeing that one coming, I think, because of what we had been set up in the first one. Well, we'll get into it later. We'll get into it later.

Yeah. Speaking of the trailer, my son pointed out that he didn't say the line. from the trailer in the movie. What, what line was that? Now you'll see what I see. Oh, yeah. When he turns the lights off. And I was thinking about that the whole time.

Yeah, because my son said, he said he was just sitting there waiting for him to say it. Right. Because he's like, that guy, he has a really creepy voice. Yeah, right. And it didn't happen. There was not a whole lot of dialogue in this whole movie. No, actually, I think from what I, from what I read,

I think Stephen Lane had like 16 lines of dialogue. Yeah. total. That makes sense. Yeah. I mean, he didn't even talk almost until, what, three quarters of the way or more than the movie? Once he entered the movie, which was, you know, 15, 20 minutes into it. Right.

That was the end of talking. There was no more talking until, like, the very end. Yeah, he didn't even really need to say anything, though. He did have some things to say, though, toward the end, that's for sure. Oh, yeah. Well, he could have had some things to say in the middle of it, too, but he didn't. Right. So what do you guys think?

Are you guys ready to rate it? it? Yeah, because I think we'll get more into it later on. All right, fair enough. So, who started? I can't remember who went first tonight. You, Philip? I got to rate it

first. Man, fuck you guys. It's on you, baby. I'm going to give it a seven, man. I think it was a, I think it was really... Not bad. Yeah, I think it was really good movie. I was totally worth watching. It was really intense, and it definitely held my interest all the time.

You know, I mean, it's... Never got bored, huh? It's fun in the theaters. Yes. Yeah. I don't know how well it would translate to an on-demand thing. Right. But if, I mean, maybe if you got the lights out and everything is totally silent, it's a super tense movie.

It'll hold your attention. Seven is a good solid score. Yeah, that's a pretty good solid score. Good solid score. What about you, Brian? I'm going to go ahead and give it a seven and a half. Nice. Nice. I really enjoyed the movie, though I felt like the beginning was a little slow. If they would have put more of the one kid's background into it, I might have gave it a little bit higher rating, but I really enjoyed this movie all the way through. I also enjoyed the movie a great deal, and I will also give it a solid seven, which for me is pretty damn good.

I would say that it definitely keeps you on the edge of your seat from the start to the finish. If I would change anything, it'd be pretty much what you guys said. Get a little more backstory at the beginning, especially on Alex's character and where he's coming from. Money, nobody gave a fuck about him. That's just a dumbass, you know? But he was pivotal to be in the movie. Well, true. I mean, yeah, he was the McGuffin.

You needed him to be in there to keep things. moving forward, right? Yeah, am I right? Yeah, exactly. I mean, you got a little bit of Rocky's background. A little. Well, I think they gave enough. Yeah.

They showed what her home life was. True, true. And then later on, she explains a little bit about her childhood. So I think you get enough. If they would have just gave a little bit more on Alex, I think it would have been fine. Because like you said, nobody cared about money. Yeah, totally agreed.

All right. More Alex in the beginning. And I would have been, I would have probably given it. to seven and a half. Here's why I think that they did what they did with Alex. I think that their target audience is what, 18 to 34 year old males? Probably white, clean cut. Guess who can relate to

Alex? You know what I mean? Especially if they... Uh-oh. Hold on. Really felt like Stephen Lang's dog was released in there or something. But yeah, it was a good movie. I liked it. I thought it was pretty good. Okay, so here's the thing with Alex, right? Who's their target audience? It's 18 to 34-year-old males, right?

Right. That are probably clean-cut, white horror movie demographic people, right? Sure. People that go to the movies and see the film. Well, if they don't give a ton of a backstory on that guy, who else is going to relate to him? You know? He could be any of us, right? Yeah.

That's why you relate to that character. Okay. I did. I related to that character the most, and I was really tense, and that's part of why I cared about the main actress so much, you know. Makes sense? Yeah, because I think I related to him. Who hasn't been in love with that crazy chick that they shouldn't be?

Not me. How about you, Brian? Maybe. Yeah, he kind of, he actually kind of reminded me a little bit of somebody we're going to talk about of the next movie, Joe Swanberg, the kind of clean-cut kid from your next? The Swanberg. Did he remind you of him a little bit? A little bit.

Yeah, I guess. You know, had that same kind of all-American clean-cut look to him. I don't know if I'd equate it the same thing, but I can see the visual, though. All right. So moving on to our next feature film tonight. As we were talking about earlier, we were actually going to watch the people under the stairs, but decided instead at the last minute to change it to Your Next, which is a film that came out in 2011.

It was directed by Adam Windham. also known for the guest several segments in as we talked about earlier the VHS movies as well as the ABCs of death and also the upcoming Blair Witch which is definitely going to get a lot of hype on this show this was actually written by Simon Barrett

Simon has worked with Adam Wingard on pretty much all of his projects as well as a movie called Red Sands and also Frankenfish yeah Brian you Heard of Frankenfish and all? No. That was probably one of his early ones, man.

So here's where it gets interesting. Adam Wingard, who of course was the director, Joe Swanberg, who I just mentioned a few minutes ago, kind of the All-American boy, kind of red-haired kid that we saw in this movie, and we've seen in a lot of others. AJ Bowen, the guy with the beard, and also Ty West. And Ty West, I think his character in this movie was named Tarek. Is that right, Brian?

Yes, that was him. So what's very interesting about these four guys is that they all work together very, very frequently. And they split parts as directors, writers, and also actors. So basically, these four guys, or these four guys, guys are in a lot of movies together. They're all involved in this particular film. Now, what's kind of interesting about these folks is that they're involved in a kind of a subgenre

of film. It's actually called mumblecore. But in the horror field, it's called mumble gore. Have you guys ever heard of mumblecore or mumble gore by any chance? Nope. No, man, you mentioned it earlier, and I've been kind of waiting before you get to it. All right. So again, Swanberg, Wingard, Bowen, and Ty West. All right? So they always work together. And also Simon Barrett seems to do a lot of the writing for these films. So Mumblegore is a subgenre of independent

film characterized by naturalistic acting and dialogue, low budget film production, an emphasis on dialogue over plot and a focus on the personal relationships of people in their 20s and 30s. All of these filmmakers are considered part of the subgenre, and Joe Swanberg is most credited for pushing the subgenre. So if you really go back and watch a whole bunch of movies that these guys have been in, you'll notice that, for example, in this movie, you've got actors, Ty West, Swanberg, and you've got A.J. Bowen. but they didn't direct it.

Wingard directed it. But if you go back and watch, for example, have you guys heard of a movie called The Sacrament? Yes, yes. The Sacrament was actually directed by Ty West, and it starred Joe Swanberg, A.J. Bowen, and many others. So if you start really looking back at the movies that these guys are in, they do a lot of stuff together.

And if you start really paying attention to the different stuff that they do, together you'll start to understand that these guys pretty much all work together in sort of a subgenre of films. Now who was, who did Swanberg play? Swanberg was the kind of all-American redhead

kid that basically the brother. At first I... The older brother, the dickhead? At first, I thought he was going to be the fucking asshole. He is the asshole. I really thought he was the fucking killer. He ended up being okay.

He's the one that got shot in the back with the arrow. Okay. Is not the killer? That's why he's not an asshole. No, he's still an asshole. Well, but what's funny about Swanberg? I was pretty happy when he got shot. He has directed so many movies.

He's got 51 acting credits. Yeah. And if you look at the movies he's directed, he's got 29 directing credits. These guys don't only do horror. But if you'll look at some of the stuff they've done, they've done a lot of stuff in VHS. together. They've done an older movie called Auto-erotic.

You guys heard of that? I'm not familiar with that one. Okay. Seems like maybe I have, but I probably don't know. I don't know. That was one of the first ones that a lot of these guys worked on together. It was directed by Swanberg and Adam Wingard.

It's not a horror movie. It's kind of a weird sexual movie where it's just talking about all these people that are in their weird sexual practices and stuff like that. Kate Lynn Shield was also in this movie, and she was in autoerotic. Swanberg was in it.

Caitlin Shield, she's the main character? No, she's not the Australian. Okay, no. The one who goes badass. I got you, yeah. Yeah, she's like one of the preppy girls that's in the family. But if you go back and look at these guys, they do a lot of stuff together.

You guys ever heard of a movie called Popskull? No. From 2007? Uh, that was a, who directed that one? Because that was one of his first movies, wasn't it? Yep. Uh, Pop Skull was pretty much, it was an Adam Wingard movie. He directed it.

And it was basically pretty much about a bad acid trip. Really? Like, yeah, like the whole movie was he took this, uh, uh, drug that was kind of similar to acid, and he just freaked out the whole movie, the whole way through the movie. And you'll notice, again, if you look through the, the credits of people that are in all these movies, they all tend to show up in each other's films quite a bit. I just think it's really cool. The way you've got these same guys,

they're all directors, they're all writers, and they're all actors, and they show up in each other's movies. Yeah, that's kind of cool. And it's just really awesome. Broken Lizards Club. Yeah, kind of like Broken Lizard a little bit. But, Phillip, what did you think about this movie, man?

You're next? Okay, so this always shows up on one of like the top horror movies, uh, lists that you go and just Google. And it may not be on every one of them, but it always shows up. It's always on the radar.

I always had the same, because I didn't see it when it first came out. But it always had kind of the same review, which is, hey, look, this is a low budget movie, but it's, right? It's always the, you know, when you watch one of those home invasion thrillers, and you're always like, no, don't do that.

That's fucking stupid. Okay, this is the chick that, does that. She's like, okay, I'm not going to do that. That's fucking stupid. Yeah, she's not fucking stupid. I'm going to do this and kick your ass instead. It's turning the home invasion

thing upside down. And that's, I think that's why it gets such positive feedback. It's different, you know? It takes somebody who's not so helpless and shows why she can be so kick-ass and you know,

partially what you can do during home invasion to not be a jackass. Right? Yeah. I think it was a good movie, man. I really like it. I love this movie. One of the things that I really love about is, I believe, what's in, Sharnie Vincent,

I think that's her real name. Yeah, the Australian actress, for sure. Yeah. You know, in horror movies, they call them the final girl. Right. She wasn't your typical final girl. Because usually they have to, usually in most horror movies, they go through a lot of shit and then they decide i have to fight back now she fights back from the very beginning

like she's been through the shit before yeah and i really enjoyed that about it was different yeah well like like she said she came from a survivalist background once you find out who's responsible you're really i'm kind of rooting for her to kill these people even more and that's a that's a pretty good twist and i don't even know if i want to uh want to reveal that twist because uh part of and you know I saw this movie when it had been out for a long time but there's not a whole lot of spoilers out there on it you know

well yeah it's 2011 and like we always say on the show anything that's been out at least one year we pretty much assume our viewers have already seen so we spoil the shit out of it and I guess that's true our viewers probably have seen it but part of the amazing thing about it was that I saw it you know maybe a year or two ago and it had already been out forever

and nobody had spoiled it for me and I totally wasn't seeing the twist coming. Let me put it to you this way. Nobody fucking lives. How's that for a spoiler, bitch? Yeah, I wrote down some notes but I guess since we're not going to be doing

spoilers on this one. Right. All I'm going to say is... We can totally do spoilers on this one. Okay. Yeah, this isn't the new one, man. Okay, let's go with Chris. It's been first of all.

Right. This guy is the fucking asshole. Yeah. Cock sucker. Not just for planning, helping to plan this thing, but he's a pacifist. He can't participate. So just call me when it's done. Yeah.

Yeah. And then the other brother Felix and his girlfriend. And that was AJ Bowen, right? Yes. And the other brother, Felix and his girlfriend, Z. Mm-hmm. A couple things I wrote down that they said. Oh, Z was hot as shit, though, dude.

Yeah. Even though she was a mean, murdering bitch motherfucker, I'd still like to fuck her. Okay. First thing I wrote down was when Felix watches his father get killed. Right. All he has to say is, did you have to do that in front of me? Yeah, exactly. What a pussy, huh?

That guy, that guy to me, oh, I hated that guy. And then the girlfriend tries to have sex with him on top of his dead mother. Right. that turned her on man I'm like you people need to die yeah no it was totally weird but goes back to that how many times have you been in love with the chick

that you probably shouldn't have been which I mean I'm not going to give any spoilers on that's probably the thing I won't give spoilers on is how people die in this because you know they're pretty creative well I know there were the body count is 15 because I looked it up how many

how many dead dead bodies there are in this movie is 15 and that's a pretty goddamn good body count. That satisfies me for a horror movie. Especially for a movie that has a cast of how many? About 15. There's a spoiler. But yeah, that very ending when the cop came in,

that was a fucking kick to the balls, huh? Literally, huh? Yeah, because when I first seen it, I totally forgot what she had set up at the front door. So, yeah, it was a pretty big shock right there. I love it, dude. Nobody was safe, man. Yeah.

Very well-done movie. Very well done. It's... I think it definitely stays on that top horror movies to see list. It's a classic, you know? And it's just because it's different. Absolutely. So here's the basic rundown of what Mumblecore is.

And again, the only difference between Mumblecore and Mumble Gore is that Mumble Gore is focusing more the quote-unquote horror movies that are within the mumblecore subgenre so mumblecore is and this is from Wikipedia a subgenre of independent film characterized by

naturalistic acting and dialogue often improvised low budget film production an emphasis on dialogue over plot and a focus on the personal relationships of people in their 20s and 30s so in other words

because yeah it's it's more focused on character development and dialogue than it is on the, you know, the actual plot of what the movie is. Like no joke, I am here straight from hanging out with my family for the weekend. Right.

And that's one of the things I wanted to say was the acting was incredible. Yeah, very good acting. It's like these guys are family, you know? That's, and because they've been in so many movies together, obviously our family, it's easy for them to pull

you know, put that point across. And I think they do it really naturally and effortlessly. It makes me want to go back and watch all the films that all these guys have done. Yeah. Ty West is just a genius. Have you guys seen The House of the Devil? I don't know that. I have not seen that one.

Totally. Absolutely beautiful, brilliant, slow burn. I mean, this dude is the king of Slow Burn. Yeah. Yeah, I believe. He also did. Have you seen the innkeepers? Yes, I've seen.

that one. Yes. I mean, would you agree that it takes an hour for anything to even happen? Yeah, if you are not into slow burns, the innkeeper might turn you away. So are these just kids who went to film school together, or what? I don't know,

and I don't care, but I enjoy all of their work, man, because I really enjoy watching the slow buildup. I'm a slow burn guy. I'm a 70s movie fanatic. So anytime you get movies like this that take a long time to build up and develop.

Yeah. And you actually get to learn who the people are. And you know what's funny about it is that I know in this genre, a lot of the time they don't script what they're going to say. Or they'll have it scripted out, you know, kind of roughly. But then they kind of improvise as they go through the movie. That's good. And that's what I really, really, really enjoy.

It feels natural. It feels like you're actually watching a reality TV show or something. Well, it is. Even earlier, we had to stop something because the dog started barking. And then I had to think about what I was going to say before I started saying it, and it came out. Same concept. Not as good as I wish it had been the first time. But yeah, I mean, if you're doing it on the fly, I can totally see that where everything just comes out a little more naturally.

And it's a little bit more free-flowing, you know. I'm a huge fan. It makes for a better movie. I'm a big fan of Wind Guard. I love Ty West. everything I've seen, A.J. Bowen in, I've really enjoyed watching. I mean, I think these guys really have something

going here. Yeah, I hope so. Have you guys seen... Brian, have you seen the ABCs of Death movies? Yeah, I'm not a big fan of those movies. They're too short, right? I haven't actually... I don't mind them being short. I don't... Most of them I don't like most of the segments.

Really? I think pretty much all these guys have segments in them. I think so, too. I kind of actually do enjoy them. Let me put it to you this way. It's like this. If the one you're watching you don't like, it's okay. Wait five minutes and the next one will be playing.

So it's kind of a VHS type of thing? VHS, but like each film's like one-fourth, the length of a VHS movie. Does that give you enough to do anything? What do you think, Brian? Well, obviously Brian doesn't care for him that might. Yeah, but the ones I do, yeah, they're pretty good. Really? What did you think about like Ellis for libido?

Oh, that one was, yeah, I know which one. That one was pretty crazy. They spent these guys down to make him jack off. I mean, there's some fucked up shit. And you remember the one with the furries in it that was like a Nazi Germany type thing or something? Yeah. Yeah, what was the other one? F is for fart. Hey, I'll agree with you. 90% of them suck. But the 10% of them that are good

are definitely worth sitting through the rest of them to get to, you know? I may have to watch it. I see that one pop up on occasion, too. Yeah, I believe both of them are first and second one are on Netflix. Yeah, well, as one of the movies that you should watch or, you know, top horror movies on Netflix or something like that, that always pop up. I've never taken a plunge to watch that one.

I mean, I like the VHS stuff because it's cool and short and concise, but I've never watched the ABCs of death. So speaking of Wingard, what did you guys think about The Guest? Have you ever seen that one? I love The Guest. The guest was a trip. Yeah, I felt like it was a throwback movie. Right?

Also written by Simon Barrett, as a matter of fact. Same team. The guest. I also. He came back from serving with his brother. in the military, or his buddy, and he showed up at their house, and it pretty much just went fucking nuts from there.

I don't think I saw that. Oh, you need to. You haven't seen the guest? No, I don't think so. Brian, Enlightened Philip. Tell this motherfucker. I really recommend this movie. It really, it comes off like a kind of,

Lance, do you feel like it's kind of like an 80s throwback? Absolutely, especially with the, a lot of the soundtrack I don't even I don't even how have I never seen this? It almost to be honest with you

it almost kind of sounds like the thing soundtrack a little bit yeah with all the the keyboards everything yeah I mean it's not

it's not a horror movie it's more like a to me it kind of feels like a throwback kind of action movie movie from the 80s right but there's a big twist

toward the end yes yes there is and if you don't know the twist, you probably don't want to know it until you see the movie. Maybe that's why. Because see, that's part of the reason it took me so long to watch your next, okay? I'm more of a, I'm more of a sci-fi horror guy instead of a thriller horror guy.

And I enjoy those movies a lot, but I always, I never, like, gravitate to them, you know what I mean? Yeah. It takes me a minute to watch them. But the way I'm feeling about Adam Wingard, it's like everything he does, I want to watch it. that's one of the movies that and you're next that's why I'm really excited to see Blair Witch

well you know what oh that's that guy you guys are pulling it all together for me man speaking of Blair Witch let's start talking about how excited we are to see that I'm pretty excited about it actually

I do man I think this dude has it man do you think it's gonna have that same kind of like we were talking about the music. I felt like in your next, it also kind of had that throwback kind of 80s. Absolutely. Well, I thought it was cool. They had the record player or the CD player that got stuck on repeat on repeat.

Yes. And they just kept using that as a background track to the movie. I thought that was super cool. That was really a good idea. Very well done. And it worked so well. Yeah. Yeah.

Do you guys think that's what we're going to get in Blair Witch? or he's just going to go for something completely different than what he's done before. Dude, I don't know. I hadn't got anything really from the preview to know what to expect from this movie at all. I don't know what to think. But I know the second preview

where they actually mentioned Blair Witch and they actually show the little wooden figurines and stuff, that got me really fucking excited. Well, it's meant to get you intrigued. That first one was like, who is this? So this guy's like the little brother of the girl who went missing, right? I believe so.

Yeah. I mean, it looks amazing. Oh, yeah. For sure. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, because I'll get that from the preview at all. I finally see the new preview. We saw the worst preview.

Yeah, it's in the new trailer. It's in the very beginning of the trailer where he see, I believe he sees a video online, and he thinks that's his sister. Right. And I think it's the video of the first movie. Oh, that's right. Where somebody's standing in the corner. That.

Man, I don't care what they said about that movie. It was scariest shit when it came out. Yeah, it should be a lot of fun. Did you guys ever watch the, I guess, the original sequel? Oh, yeah. Yeah, Book of Shadows? Yeah. I actually enjoyed it.

I mean, it was all right, but it wasn't like a... I mean, it was obvious like a, here's a direct-to-d-d-d-de-de-release because we're playing off the name of Blair Witch. Yeah, I didn't think it was bad, but I think it could have been any other witch. It didn't have to be the Blair Witch. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It's like it was an okay movie. It just wasn't, probably shouldn't have been attached to the franchise.

Yeah. Well, something tells me we're going to have a show coming up where we do original Blair Witch, Book of Shadows, and the new Blair Witch. I like that. In one show. So who wants to go first on the rating for this one, guys? I'll go ahead I give this one a 8 I really really love this movie

I wish Sharnie Vincent I wish she did more movies more um I checked her filmography I was too man I didn't see her in that much she doesn't do a lot of movies I thought maybe she was a stunt woman or something

yeah yeah and I also got to give a quick shout out to Barbara Crampton that was in this movie yes I didn't even recognize her until I still the credits man if anybody doesn't know her. She's been in Reanimator Chopping Mall, a puppet master, a whole bunch of movies.

You name. Yeah, she played the mother. Oh, right, yeah. See, I, in my first thought when they showed the mother, I was like, why are they trying to make this young chick look old? And she looked hot as hell,

didn't she? She did look hot as hell, yeah. Right. Very surprised that was her. But it looks legitimately like they're trying to make a young chick look old. How old is you? Yeah, it looked like it, didn't it? Lance, you go ahead and with your rating.

I'm going to look up how old she is. All right, cool. Yeah, for your next, I would give it a very strong seven. I would give it a higher score, but just didn't quite catch me the way I wanted it to. I enjoyed it a lot more on the second viewing, that's for sure. Yeah. So you're next.

I would definitely give it a strong seven. would say it's highly highly recommended. Anybody who wants to watch a good horror movie and what was really cool is it did kind of turn it on its ass. It took the typical home invasion movie where you were kind of expecting to see, you know, the bad guys come in and just fuck everybody over. And then finally, you know, and it did kind of have a final girl in me, actually. Let's be honest.

But I didn't expect it to be the way it was. And the final girl didn't quite turn out to me. be the final girl, did she? Spoiler City, huh? There you go. And I really, really, really enjoyed that final scene with the cop that walked in. That's what really got me. So I would give it

a seven almost, you know what? Fuck it. Seven and a half. It really was that good. I really thought the ending was so clever that it was definitely worth an extra half point. And I think that these these guys, Wingard and

Barrett, Swanburne, Bowen, all these people that are doing these movies together, they're going to be around for a long time. I think this is the next generation of horror movies and easily a seven and a half. What do you think, Philip? Man, I want to... I definitely give it an eight and a half.

I almost want to give it a nine. It was kind of revolutionary, you know what I mean? It's 2011, so it's not super old. But yeah, it took that whole home invasion genre and turned it on its head. It was different. It was exciting. I like the twist at the end.

And it had so many twists that you didn't even know where you were coming out. Yeah, there were some twists that on second watching, I didn't even remember for the first time, you know? Well, yeah, I know. I didn't either. Right. And they got so creative with the ending because it always comes down to how are you going to end a movie like this, right? Sure. How could you?

And they sure found a way to fucking end it, didn't it? I kind of enjoyed the very beginning when, uh, did you? Do you guys know who Larry Fessenden is? No. He's been in a lot of Fairly Brother movies. He's been a lot of B-grade horror movies and comedy movies. Yeah. And yeah, remember he bit it early in the movie when they had the CD playing.

I got you. The neighbor, the neighbor. The neighbor. I'm thinking of the pop. It was definitely funny seeing Fessenden invited early on for sure. Yeah, I was. I was thinking of the father. Oh, yeah.

Well, he's in a bunch of stuff too. But no, yeah, I've definitely seen that guy. I know that guy. Okay. Real quick here. Barbara Crampton, you guys are probably not going to believe this, is 57 years old. Okay. Holy shit.

See, it looks like in the movie that she's some... She looks like some 20-year-old chick, especially in the first few scenes. It looks like she's some 20-year-old chick that they're just dyeing her hair gray. Mm-hmm. Feedback section. Chris O'Neill from Sidney. Sydney, Australia, commented that he is glad they're continuing to use Matt Ryan to play

Constantine, an upcoming big-screen version of the Justice League Dark. Hey, we were talking about that earlier, right? Yeah, that's one we were talking about earlier. And it sounds like it's going to be pretty kick-ass, man. I'm pretty excited about it. Well, let's just hope it's not as fucking shitty as Suicide Squad. Although Suicide Squad, it wasn't shitty. We agreed.

It was fun. Yeah, it was totally fun. But not what we wanted. Yeah, Suicide Squad was fun. just had a shitty story. Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, it was fun.

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