The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #131: Our Look Into Exploitation Films: Blaxploitation - Shaft (1971), Foxy Brown (1974), & I'm Gonna Get You Sucka (1988) (Reupload)

Episode Date: August 30, 2025

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I'm Lansom with me as always. My co-host, Brutal Brian is going to stick, man. We got to go up with a little bit. Yeah, all right, so we're not going to do, we're not going to do fabulous Philip. Brian, you got any ideas?

I don't know. What happened to Philly the kid? I kind of like that. You know what? Let's go with it. You all right with that Phil? Dude, I don't care. Hey, a nickname is what people give you, not what you make up yourself, you know? Is this saddle up? I know.

All right, well, I'm not going to ask how it's going because I think Brian's going to dominate. this part of the show. Yeah, because I think he had a hell of a lot more shit going on today than we did, huh? Say, man, you got a joint?

No, not on me, man. It'd be a lot cooler if you did. Yeah, I guess I'll start my not cool of the week was we had a, yeah, we had a major, major earthquake this morning here in Alaska. they're saying it's between 7.0, 7.2, and there was a lot of damage throughout the city of Anchorage. A lot of things shut down. But I am safe, the family's safe.

But it was an experience. Had a little, never really experienced before, but I had a little bit of vertigo after it was over. because we actually had a second one that hit, like a smaller, I believe they said, like, five point something that happened like ten minutes later. Like an after shot? Yeah, I don't know. There's people on the news saying we're supposed to get another one, possibly. Yeah, which is pissing me off because I spent all day cleaning.

A lot of broken dishes. One of my big flat screens is done. Oh, no. destroyed. And, yeah. Schools are closed, I think, until Wednesday because of the damages. Holy shit. So, but if...

Yeah, so if anybody's listening, just follow all the steps they've been given. Of course, if you smell gas or anything, if you know how to shut it off, shut it off and call your gas company. There's been a lot of that going on. but uh yeah I did watch some movies though I do have some cool little week I have some questions about the earthquake though I'm very curious

uh okay so seven point whatever that's like the whole fucking ground and everything is shaken underneath you huh yes uh I've seen some pictures people have been taking

uh pavements cracked open overpass fell down all kinds of stuff so how did that compare to the second one which was like a five whatever I was outside at the time which that was also a new experience

I've never been outside of a house and an earthquake and it's really weird to just feel the ground go like just woo wobbling damn is it hard to stand up um not really but you just

after it's done like I said I got I got that vertigo yeah mm-hmm do y'all have earthquakes a lot I mean I know you had one not too long ago but it was a kind of small I guess real shitty my my studio area here was just completely destroyed ah shit yeah yeah we actually lost you there for a second did oh earthquakes there a whole lot um I think we get them the most of the United States oh really um but they're always like little few I've had people call me. Mm-hmm.

Can you guys hear me? Yeah, yep. You just cut out for a second. Faded out a little bit. Yeah. We get them a lot. Okay. Little ones throughout the year.

Like, you might miss them if you're not really paying attention or awake. So no weird, like, climate change thing. No. Although maybe. But we did get a tsunami alert. Oh shit. Oh shit. Yeah.

God damn. You done the earthquake was bad, huh? Yeah, but the alerts went away, so. I'm going to fly up there and go surfing, man. Because I don't really know what the fuck I'm doing yet. I might die, so maybe not. Oh, man, dude, Phil, you'd be fucking grabbing a wave and sit in the top of the world, huh? I got literally.

Or it might be that, like that movie about the tsunami. You guys remember that one? I think we've talked about it before, right? I don't know. Another one of those jackass disaster movies. Like, I don't want to watch a movie about it, but like hearing about it in person is crazy to me. I've never experienced an earthquake.

So it's, yeah. It's a little scary. I'm pretty. Well. But to the. cool of the week. I was going to have a review of Behoomino Rhapsody and the possession of Hannah Grace, but movie theater was also destroyed inside, so they shut down for the

weekend. God damn. But earlier in the week, I did take my kid to see Record Ralph 2. Oh, how was that? if anybody yeah if you got kids take your kids see your record Ralph too

it's super fun I enjoyed it we had a good time watching that one cool how did it compare to the first one I liked it more you know it has to do

with the internet so it's kind of it's fun you know especially with your kid pointing out all the stuff right a lot of Star Wars and Marvel

characters mixed in okay Stanley Stan Lee cameo too. Stan Lee cameo? Yeah, you got it. You got to catch it. It's real quick.

Wow. How about, did he go to a porn hub or anything like that? No, not this one. They do go, they do go to the dark web. Oh, no kidding. Yeah. Is it like that terrible movie that we saw early in the year? It was actually better, so.

Let's see. Yeah, we're probably going to see that one this weekend. Yeah, the kids. The kids will love it. Yeah. Also checked out the new Fantastic Beast. Oh, yeah? Good.

Not so fantastic. That's better what I've been hearing. I think if any, well, you should be listening to anybody doesn't listen to our friend Kevin Nez over at the E Society. I think he said it right. Not enough Beast. and part of the title is the crimes of Grindelwald. I don't know what crimes he committed.

What were the crimes? Yeah, he seemed not too bad to me. But the way it ended, I am looking forward to the third one. The way it ended, it did pick up near the end, but the whole first half to the middle was real slow. Did it make a lot of money? I mean, I know there's still some Harry Potter Nuts out there, but right?

You've got to be falling off. Yeah. I think last time I checked, it was close to like 500 million already. And that's only at like two weeks. Well, so it's making this money. Shut my fucking mouth then. So much for that, huh? But yeah.

But my big review was going to be the possession of Hannah Grace. But next week, I'll get that in there. I'm excited about that one. Yeah. Yeah, that's pretty much it. Yeah, I saw that was out. That was like the only new movie to come out this week, wasn't it? Yeah, I was hoping to find, see if, whatchamac came up here.

Anna and the Apocalypse, that zombie Christmas. I heard that that's getting great reviews. Oh, yeah, that looks really cool. But we didn't get it up here, much like Susperia. I still haven't got it up here. Oh, no. I'm sure it would be on-daband somewhere. I mean, I've probably not Suspuria for a while.

They got the pull to do some shit like that, but I doubt Anna and the Apocalypse wants to stay small screen. Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, I guess I'll go. My cool of the week has got to be the motherfucking cowboys. No.

Oh, shit. It's coming. Yeah. Mostly because that's about all I've watched this week. Oh, that and Red Dead Dead Day. I played the fuck out of that game. And it is pretty cool. I'm addicted to it 100%.

But the Cowboys, man. Holy crap. DeMarcus Lawrence said he was going to hit him in the mouth and choke him out with a few more expletives than that earlier this week. And everybody was really questioning, you know, why would he say that? And are they coming into cocky? and I think that's just in this society he's being too mean

but they came out and played some hard-nosed motherfucking football man it was great they've still got some problems that they got to work on the offense is still got to pull it together and DAC is not still not at the level that I want him to be at

but if DAC is our weak link that's a pretty goddamn good football team And the defense is killing it and that's what wins championships. So we could be talking about that pretty soon. Yeah, they beat a pretty damn good team too. Shit, they'll probably meet up again in the playoffs, man. Yeah, boy, they kept Drew Brees down to like 111. Oh, they did.

Yeah. Whoa. Nobody's done that. You saw all the pictures I was sitting in, you have the old Saints fans with the bags over their heads and shit. Yeah, is that what that was? Okay. Well, I mean, hey, listen, I got nothing but respect for Drew Brees and the Saints. They are a kick-ass team, and if the Cowboys don't take it, I kind of hope the Saints do.

There you go. High praise, ma'am. Yeah, but, man, I'm proud of the way they played. If they can do that a second time in the playoffs, great. So we'll see how that goes. I do wish at the end, the final score was 13 to 10. And that was Thursday night football game, so not a lot of people watched it, I'm sure. But got to say, 13 to 10, there's just like a minute and a half left,

and the Cowboys are on the two-yard line, first in cold. And they kneeled it, which is the smart move to end the... Right, yeah. Conservative move. But God damn it, dude, if you're going to go in there and play hard-nosed football, play hard-nosed football, I wish they'd have punched that motherfucker in just to be like, yes, that's what's up. Yeah, and what if something that happened in New Orleans it ended up running the ball all the way back?

It's possible. I think Garrett should have had the nuts to take that chance and be like, fuck y'all, nothing's going to happen. And then, you know, on the sideline, tell Zeke, look, if you drop that ball, I'm going to fucking kill you. Make no mistake. Which is what it should have done to a couple of players in that game. And I'm totally not sold on Garrett.

I'm really worried that they're going to do just enough for him to keep his job and we'll be in this whole situation next year. But, hey, right now they're on a roll. Hopefully they say that way. Yeah, man. Your boys are riding high at the right time. So, except it. A little more in-depth than I expected to get. Go Cowboys.

I wish the Rockets were doing fucking good. No shit, right? Holy shit. What are they? What are they sucking? If the playoffs started today, we wouldn't make it. After being one of the top teams in the conference last year. Should have won the damn thing last year.

Yeah. Did they get rid of Mello? Yeah, I believe so. I know they were coming to an agreement. Sorry as Carmelo. What? Like, he wasn't even playing. What happened?

He's a fucking diva. That's what he's the diva. He's the diva. Oh, no. Melissa's just call it you the diva. mellow hands with the deep. Right. Fuck it, man.

What are you going to do? We're like the second worst team in the Western Conference. And the Texans. God damn it. How about those Texans? Yeah. They got like eight wins in a row, right? I think so.

Do they? Yeah. Are you sure we're talking about the same team here? Yeah, man. You mean the Houston NFL team? Yeah, buddy. They're killing it. I mean, they're not dominating anybody.

They're all really, really close wins that some of them they probably should have lost, and I think they lucked out. And so I'm kind of taking a grain of salt. Right. I'm almost getting excited about them, man. They got a lot of wins right now. Yeah, they're eight and three and number one in their division. Yeah.

Definitely, if they keep going that way, they're definitely making the playoffs. Yeah. sports well yeah the sports returns we're doing everything else doing westerns we're doing boxing fuck why not expand our horizons

Melissa's going to be doing Netflix yeah man well uh oh shit cool of the week right yeah we're still on that all right my new

my new obsession guys my new favorite TV show of right now so we we reviewed a trailer last week Brian oh uh it was up for the Creed show right yeah what were my words to you when I saw the trailer you had a lot of words but I think some of them was uh what the fuck is this

bullshit dude future man is fucking awesome man PETA has redeemed himself Dude, it is so fucking good. Oh, man, it's like you just want to go from one episode to the next, you know? You're on the first season? Yeah. Yeah, I'm like, I think four, four episodes in.

Okay. Man, I really got to check it out. I saw it on Hulu earlier when I was looking for, I think I was looking for Foxy Brown or some shit. Yeah. And I almost wanted to, I almost really wanted to start it. And I was like, nah, I really got to watch these movies. Yeah, it's just, it's amazing, dude. Brian, you were right, man.

I stand corrected. You were, you were correct, sir. It's a fucking awesome show. And like the people that, the people that just show up, like, in the first episode, you guys know of the comedian, her name is Aquafina. She's been in a couple of movies. Oh, yeah. She's just fucking raunchy and funny as fuck, man.

And she and some other, uh, Youfus guy run a video game rental store or I think it's like a like a Game Stop type thing, Brian. Is that right? Yeah. And then later when they meet her ex-boyfriend, I mean, it's just crazy. Like obviously things you expect to get callouts to like Back to the Future and Terminator and stuff like you were talking about. But like that fourth episode had a big call out to Breaking Bad. Oh. That was not expected that. The fucking awesome show.

If you're not watching Future, man, you should. Like Nez said, hella good. Well, I mean, hey, Seth Rogan is the ultimate stoner, right? And if you ever smoked weed and thought about time travel, it gets really fucking interesting. So I can totally understand where this is coming from. I'm excited about it. And that happens in the episode two. Do you remember that, Brian?

Yeah. Wolf. Oh, man, I can't wait for season two. you said they're all going to drop on the same day, right? If they did like season one, yeah, it should all drop on the same day. Nice. That's January, I think. Yeah, cool.

Right around the corner. Thanks for turning me on, man. No problem. So you got any headlines besides the earthquake? That's a number of headline right there. Yeah. Start with Daredevil. Cancelled.

Oh. Leave it, dude. That was almost going to be my cool. my cool of the week, man. Show's so fucking awesome, man. Best season. And I guess they're sending everything over to Disney, huh?

That's what it seems like. I mean, there's been no word. I mean, John Bernthal's been hyping up. He's been like kind of leaving little hints to Punisher season two. Right. It was a Punisher and Jessica Jones.

Those are the only ones not canceled. So. I'll be. I'm sure another shot, man. I didn't finish watching it. I just like... Oh, no. You were the best buffed of all this, man.

Because he was kick-ass in Daredevil season two. But like all of these Marvel seasons on Netflix have gone, like, they feel so long. Yeah. Punisher was a hard watch. Yeah. Punisher was punishing, huh? Yeah. It's not a you turn it on and keep watching it.

It's like, man, you got to kind of trudge through it. Hey, you guys think this is rough. Our main man, Marcus. This motherfucker watches every goddamn CW superhero show. He's a completionist. Big time, dude. And I asked him how the hell do you do that. I asked him how he does that.

And he said he just picks a CW superhero night and just like watches all five of them or whatever the fuck it is. But I had to tap hard out of the Aeroverse, man. 20 was it like 26 episodes a year yeah that's where it got me i'm just too much yeah it's too complicated when you go that i mean i want to see ruby rose as batwoman but i just want to i just want to see the episodes that she's batwoman i don't want to watch the whole arrow season or flash i'd be okay we're just looking at pictures of ruby rose's batwoman yeah look at pictures of ruby rose period yeah

Let's see. A show that I believe we're going to be doing here with Melissa, A Chilling Adventures of Sabrina. Yes. They are getting a holiday special, December 14th. Man, I've heard nothing of good things about that. Yes. McKenna Grace, she was in the Haunting of Hill House,

and she will be in the upcoming Annabelle 3. She's going to play Young Sabrina in this holiday episode. okay so if you guys uh not sure who she was from hunting of hill house she played the younger version of theo oh okay she could touch people yeah yeah that's her the the younger version and i gotta say lulu didn't bother me near as much now that she's a little bit yeah she's changed a little bit yeah yeah she doesn't uh she's growing into that yeah or she's she's growing out of that shirley temple shit that she had gone on. Yeah, that's what I was just about to say.

Yeah. Anyway. Yeah. So, uh, chilling adventures of Sabrina, holiday special will be titled, uh, midwinter's tale, and that will be December 14th on Netflix. Oh, yeah, I'm, I'm enjoying it. I think, I think I'm four, four, maybe five episodes in, but it, it's a damn good show. Yeah, I finished.

It's, uh, I liked it. I liked it. Can't wait to talk about it. My wife started watching it She was really excited about it Oh cool And we burned the hell through The Haunting of Hill House

I don't know if I ever brought that up on the week But that is a great series Yeah I think you mentioned we should do an episode on it I'm totally down Yeah it was a cool series Yeah my wife actually Bidge watch the whole thing And that's not even her genre right there

Same here man Scarrier than you guys gave it credit for man There were some moments that were really fucking creepy in there Yeah, I want to I want to rewatch it again. They were posting on the internet that there's just ghost everywhere throughout each episode in the background.

Huh, hidden shit, huh? Yeah. Speaking of the Hunting of Hillhouse, it looks like season two is almost greenlit and Mike Flanagan Mike Flanagan wants to make an anthology series and Carla Gugino, one of the stars of the first,

season is open to play different characters in upcoming seasons. Man, I sure hope it doesn't wear out its welcome, man. It's like it was, it was like the perfect storm. I'm kind of worried now. Yeah, the only thing I know for sure is that story from the first one is done and told. So it'll be a completely different story if there is a season two. Okay, well, hey, well written. We'll see if they can pull it off again.

and our biggest news of the week is the Candyman, not remake, came to find out it's a sequel, has been confirmed. What? Yes. It is said, all right,

it is said that it will be a spiritual sequel to the original, and it will take place in the Cabrini Green projects now. That's not. Spiritual? Okay. yes so i don't know

oh spiritual is tony todd going to be in it's all i want to know yeah they have not confirmed that or if he's in it i'm in if he's not i mean i'll watch it anyway who am i kidding so uh the little bit of facts i got on it um jordan peel is co-writing with uh winn roosefeld and

jordan peel will also be producing the director is um i'm not familiar with this a movie she did. Her name is Nia da Costa, and she directed a movie called Little Woods. It has Tessa Thompson in it. I looked it up. It's like 100% on Rotten Tomatoes right now. Oh, wow.

And we have a release date. Little Wood. What a name? That could mean several things, huh? That was that white guy in Foxy Brown. And, and And release date is confirmed, already set.

June 12th, 2020 is the release date. Still a ways away, huh? Yeah, no kidding. Jesus. But I'm excited to see Jordan Peel do a Candyman movie. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I'll take it.

Hell yeah. I wonder if he takes more of a serious approach or makes it kind of a slasher movie. I bet it is more of a serious kind of ghost story thing. Yeah, and I'm wondering with this director, Nia Dacostas, and she's worked with Tessa Thompson, who I loved in the Creed movies and Thor Ragnar. Would she end up being in this movie? Now, God damn it, if they do the politically correct

and make it candy woman, I'm going to be pissed off. Well, yeah, that would be fucking horrible. I'm going to call it right here. Tony Tart comes back. Yes, I think absolutely 100%. He's got to come back. Because he can still pull that off. He can definitely do the Candyman character.

Absolutely. And you can't beat that voice that he has. And that is all the news. All right. Bad ass. So I think one of these two babies, we're about to take a literal trip down to the trailer part, right, Philip? Oh, yeah, I guess so. But that's not the one I'm excited about.

Yeah? Oh, yeah. No shit. Okay. Well, we'll bring you the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what's the first new trailer to talk about this week? We're going to talk about The Appearance. Now, this is starring Jake Stormone, Christian Noren, who is a lot of people known from Game of Thrones as Hodor.

Hodor, I saw it. Oh, okay. Also stars Adam Johnson, and this is directed and written by Kurt Knight. What did you guys think of the appearance? That looks fucking awesome, dude. This looks amazing, man. What'd you think, Phil? I'm so pumped about this movie, man.

I got goosebumps like four times. This may be my new favorite thing. When does it come out? It says it was already released in June, which I'm going to say it was probably like a small, limited release. so not sure. The trailer is incredible.

Like, yeah, beautifully filmed. Beautifully filmed. Yeah. It just looks creepy as hell, man. There are lots of,

lots of symbolism in it. And it looks like, I got excited for Holdor. Yeah. I thought he looked familiar. I was excited before I even time. And then I was like, oh shit.

It's Hodor. Hold the door. Man, this is, yeah, it looks like a game of Thrones horror movie. That's a good way to put it.

That's really all you need to hear. Go watch this fucking trailer, dude. It's great. The appearance. Great appearance. Great trailer. I'm so excited about this movie. So, uh, when I get an actual newer release date, because like I said, it was released in June, so I'm going to assume maybe festival or limited

release. Yeah. So I will inform everybody. But, uh, yeah, it looks awesome. Yeah. Well, we got to find a way to work into the show, man. Yeah. I mean, there's tons of movies we can probably pair it up with. Let's see. And our final trailer is Rust Creek. Now, this one caught my eye because a lot of people are saying this might be 2019's revenge.

What? Yeah, people that have already seen it. Well. It didn't look near as artsy. I don't know. Yeah, it looked to me like we're starting your exploitation a month early, right? This is starring Hermione Corfield, Denise Dalvera, and Jeremy Glazer. This is directed by Jen McGowan, written by Julie Lipson.

Yeah, I mean, it looked kind of run-of-the-mill when I watched the trailer. but for a lot of people I mean I think we can all agree we like revenge when it came out and that to me that's kind of big words saying this is next year's revenge who said that did you read it or yeah I've seen a couple

like horror websites that that's seen the movie or stuff like that I wonder if it's just more of a plot and story kind of thing instead of the I mean, because what really made revenge was the cinematography and just how artsy that movie was. And I didn't write this at all from the preview. Yeah, because I recently, a few weeks ago, rewatch revenge.

Yeah. And just the little stuff like the close-ups, the close-up of that one guy eating. Yeah. It just makes you know that, you know, this guy is a disgusting person, you know, a despicable person. he was eating like a bag of like chocolate pretzels or some kind of weird taffy or what the fuck was he eating man yeah like I mean the story on that one was was I mean it was okay yeah okay okay yeah okay yeah sorry sorry listeners I'm dealing with

earthquake after earthquake yeah after shot after shot you you and Eli Roth man at least you don't, hey, did it break up in the prison? You guys have, like, fucking prisoners running around raping people and shit? Michael Hires could be there. Oh, don't see that. Well, I guess that's probably

that they sounded disappointed. That's probably not the reaction I should have had. But no, yeah, the story for revenge I thought was kind of okay, and it was just so well put together. Right. the way that they filmed it, the director was kick-hacks.

Kind of like the original Syspira, where it was like kind of substance, or style over-substance a little bit, right? Yeah, a lot of that. Well, we'll see how it goes. I mean, I got kind of bored with the trailer, to be honest. Yeah. I wasn't really keeping track of what was happening. And, I mean, it looks okay.

That's about the best I can give it. Mm-hmm. Yeah. Maybe our friends over at IFC Midnight will hook us up with the movie. Well, put the word out, ma'am. Or if not, we'll just have to wait until January 4th, which is the release date. Yes. Yeah.

And the last one we got from IFC was pretty artsy. So maybe it's just a different time. Mm-hmm. And that is the last trailer. All right. Well, nice. So I guess it's a feedback time, right, Phil? Yes, sir.

You have some listener feedback. Uh, we got, uh, Eric King. Says, uh, I should tell you about the time I ended up watching Shaft in the theater with an all black audience. Oh, what? That sounds incredible. If there's, if there's never a movie you want to go see filled with black people in the, in the theater. It's shaft. Yeah, good point.

He says, there's more to the story, but short of it is, I got the artsy cinema, I got to the artsy cinema late. A hardsy, it was in an artsy scene. I guess so. A place was packed. Right. I sat all the way up front, I laughed and howled at it. Turns out I was the only one having fun with it.

What? After credits, lights go up, and I'm the only white dude in the joint. Turned out to be a fundraiser for the African-American sorority at the University of William and Mary. Right on. I laughed in hell because I used to go to the screenings of black exploitation horror and bad musicals in my old town, and that's just what we all did. Wow. Well, that's awkward. Man, I figured people would be going nuts in there.

That sucks. Well, yeah, it almost sounds like it was, they were there more for like, to more like study the film, like it's importance in cinema history or something like that. Some of them probably didn't necessarily even want to be there, you know? Yeah. Yeah. So he should have just fucking stuck a six-pack in or a 12-pack in and passed some beers around. I was going to say, they should have had a two-dream minimum at that joint.

Yeah, sound like they needed to just loosen up a little, man, if they weren't, if they weren't laughing at it. I mean, there's some scenes in Shaft, and we'll get into it later, but especially that bar scene where how do you not laugh at that shit, you know? Yeah. Let's see. Regarding Car Road to Revenge. Regarding the Car Road to Revenue. What is that?

It's a sequel to a cult classic, The Car. Oh, okay. The Car Road to Revenge. It fucking looks so shitty. Oh, no. Really bad, huh? I think Nas said Hell of no or something, right?

Yeah. Well, Mike J. Learron said no. It's just no. Yeah, and well, you know, Nez is a huge fan of that. I'll bet because he and Mike hung out a lot back in the day, so they've probably seen this movie several times. And they probably both feel like it's like raping their childhood, you know?

Isn't it like a totally different car or something, Brian? Uh-oh. We're going to be dealing with aftershocks. Brian, isn't it a totally different car? I don't remember watching the trail. I just know just the way it looked. It's some straight to DVD bullshit. And I went on, I went on Nez's show to talk about the car.

It was my first time watching it. I really enjoyed it. And what they're doing in this one is just horrible. Why do you need to make a remake of some shit like that or a sequel? Just, you know, come up with your own shit. Fucking hot. Let's see. Regarding the International Poster for Hellfest,

Seth M. Sherwood says, I hadn't seen that Hellfest poster. They didn't translate my name. Did you guys see that poster? Yeah. I couldn't read anything on that fucking thing, man. Oh. What language is that?

I think it was Chinese. A lot of these international posters are pretty fucking cool for these movies. So it just said Seth Sherwood on it? I don't think they translated his name. It said, Aseswanah Shirweda-on-N-ha-ha-ha-ha-ha. Well, hey, man, getting some international praise. Way to go, Seth. Yeah.

Yeah, it's a, for you guys who haven't listened. to our, if you guys are kind of new to the podcast, you haven't listed our Hellfest episode, we interview Seth, and he wrote Hellfest, but he also wrote Leatherface and's got several other things coming up, so

shout out to Seth, friend of the show, man. Yeah, I really appreciate that that interview, man. Grazie. Great movie, by the way. Let's see, we got B. Germain. Oh, wait, hold on. Hold on, hold on. Before you move on, speaking of Hellfest.

Oh, yeah. I told you, dude, I was inspired, man. I got the Six Flags season passes because our local water park got bought out by Six Flags. Yeah, yeah. And I've fucking, I've already been twice, man, to the Six Flags in Dallas.

Dude, we have got to get up there to the Fright Fest, man. Oh, 100%. I already told, my mom kept asking us what we wanted for Christmas, and I was like, how about some Six Flags Season passes? Because my mom lives in Dallas, you know? So we're up there quite a bit, usually.

Yeah, Brian, you remember in Hellfest where I was saying, fuck, dude, I wish we had a place like Hillfest around here. Yeah. They had, like, the bars set up and jello shots and shit like that. They set up little, dude, when they have this thing, first of all, there's six fucking haunted houses that you can go in. And when they're doing it, in addition to all the roller coasters and the rides being open, And on top of that, they set up fucking Bar-and-Jello shot kiosks every 50 feet or so all around the park.

They didn't even have alcohol at that last haunted house we went to. Oh, they should have, man. No. Well, they kept saying that they get, well, I think we asked the guy about it. And he said they get drunk people who get kind of out of control or whatever. Oh, dude. They're almost, it's like they're almost encouraging you at six flags for this event, dude. Why would you not?

It sounds incredible. We're there, right? Yeah, absolutely. I went to Fright Fest. Like, I don't know, the last time I went was probably in high school, man. So I'm totally down for that. And it was a great time then. Ryan, maybe this earthquake was a sign from God, dude.

It's time to move to Houston. Yeah. I haven't been to Six Flags. I think the last time I was in Dallas was 20 years ago. Damn. Well, they've got them all over the country, right? yeah but Dallas is where

I think that's the only time I've been to a six flag yeah they don't they don't have one in Anchorage right no six flags in Anchorage no we'll be early quick we'll be dealing with this

so I'm back on back so no no six flags in Anchorage Brian no no amusement anything yeah I guess the rides would be like mush sled and

trout earthquake was our ride today. All right. Didn't mean to take us off the rails there, Phil. Sorry. Oh, no worries. Hey, Brian, when you all ready to come to Texas, man, you can squat with us for a couple months.

Oh, thank you. We've had that issue. Let's see. We got, oh, there you go. Beade your mind says, love Pam Greer. I met her once at a convention a few years back. the jealous, LOL.

I am jealous. Holy shit, after seeing Foxy Brown. Man. Pam here, I think the years ago was bad as fuck. Oh, dang, dude. She's still bad, man. She is. She looked exactly the same.

It's crazy. Yeah. We got regarding our review of Rocky Four. All right. I think Lance is Akami. What? You said that. Stephen Loblad

Fuck you Stephen You gave Rocky 4 a 4 It wasn't a great movie dude I mean seriously I'm not changing with it man Ness says Lance's review killed Apollo Creed Oh no Oh boy All right

Lance thank Donnie rings At Horror Mafia for the Three Mother's Trilogy show Donnie said thanks man appreciate that. You guys released a Triple Bill of awesomeness as well, so hopefully both of us won't disappoint. Yeah, it was a good, it was a good show. I listened to it, I guess, a couple of days ago. They cover the trilogy that starts with Suspheria. And, yeah, it's a pretty interesting things to say. I kind of have a beef with Donnie Rings, though, because he doesn't like the soundtrack for the original Suspira. do you not like that? You know, it had to grow on me for a second. The first time you

really, that craziness, it's, it's really fucking weird. But then the more you hear, the more creepy it gets. He kept saying it said like a washing machine. That's a stretch, Donnie. Beard shared a video with this set, uh, coming soon to cinemas everywhere. Safety and the workplace, uh, lucio Fucci film rated R. Beatrix Harper says, I love this. Safety in the workplace, huh? Do you guys watch it? I did. I did. I do not, I do not want to work at that job. You need to check it out, Phil. Yeah? Is there blood? Oh yeah. Lots of blood, man. Awesome. It sounds like a fairly, yeah, pretty unsafe working environment. it. Yeah. I fell off the ladder a few weeks ago. I don't know if I told you guys that.

Did you get shocked or something? No, man. I had a ladder in the mud. It was like a four-foot ladder, and I was standing on the mat on top of it, which is a bad idea. Kids don't do that. And I was like on my tippy toes and off balance, and the ladder just closed up and fell over. And I was on my back. The next thing I knew with the air knocked out of me. It was fun. Oh, that's not good. I popped back up and I was like, okay, you know you see me? Anyway, safety in the workplace, folks.

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God damn right. That's right. Yeah, right, Jack. All right, we're moving on to featured attractions, and this week, first in a new series, Brian, you had an idea to do some exploitation films, right? Yes. So this is just like the first of several.

What is exploitation film, right? That was my question. Why is it an exploitation film? You want me to do the definition of exploitation? Yeah. I mean, bad thing to get into. I feel like

we're in the politically correct world here. Damn, you put me on the spot. Basically, it's subgenres of film. It's not really horror, science fiction,

or fantasy or the type of stuff we normally do. Yeah, because you and me were messaging each other. This series can go on and on. Oh, yeah.

I'm sure. Well, I mean, do you count like the Medea films as black exploitation? Is it just a black movie? No, I just count those as bad movies. All right, what's Hicksploitation, Brian? Hicksploitation is like, you know, when you get the, like, deliverance is a perfect example of Hicksploitation. Right?

So it takes some stereotypes and just push it? Yes, exploit it, basically. I got you. And another one me and Lance was talking about was a cars exploitation, which is like, you know, like the old school of gone in 60 seconds. A lot of those movies that ex-vanishing point. Yeah, then inspired the movie that we reviewed a while back, deathproof. That's car exploitation. And there's all kinds.

There's splatter, gore, women in prison. I can't wait to get in a- Cannibal, all kinds of stuff. Definitely. Oh, man. Use some of those movies. We got lots, lots in store on this, don't we? Oh, yeah.

Nice. All right, so we're going to do that. We decided for our first week we're going to do the subgenre black exploitation. And we're going to cover Shaft, Foxy Brown, and I'm going to get you suck up. And this is definitely, this is a subgenre. I think we're going to have to do at least one more show, man, from the feedback we're getting. Oh, yeah, because there was a couple. I didn't know if we should put it on here because I thought these were more well-known,

but there's a couple that's more of my favorites than these. I'm curious now. To be continued, right? All right, well, we'll start out with Shaft. Everybody's heard of Shaft. There was a remake. There's actually a sequel coming out next year, guys, called Son of Shaf. Shaft and Richard

Rauntree. And the guy that's playing Sam Jackson's son is horrible. So original Shaft from 1971 director was Gordon Parks

also known for the Super Cops and Shaft's big score. Writers, Ernest Tideman, based on his novel, along with John D.F. Black. Here's some trivia. Isaac Hayes auditioned for the title role.

Producers cast Richard Roundtree instead, but they were so impressed with Hayes that they asked him to write the now legendary score to the film. And this is one of the first movies ever that a character openly says he's gay. That's interesting. And that plays into the bar scene,

which is probably oh man I'm gonna go first here guys if you don't mind yeah go ahead probably that between that and the opening scene just because it was so cool seeing like what New York City and Times Square and Harlem and everything looked back in the day

other than that this movie was boring as shit dude I'm not surprised you fell asleep Phil okay yeah I mean I crashed during this one I'm sorry I don't have too much to say. I mean, obviously it was a groundbreaking film. The fucking soundtrack is phenomenal.

Yeah. Actually, I heard this soundtrack when I was really young and I bought several Isaac Hayes albums just because I like the dude's voice so much and the, you know, the funky music that he makes, but this just was not a

very, you know, very exciting movie. The characters were pretty plain vanilla. They did, I didn't really think they, they stretched it too much. I mean, you know, kudos to them for, you know, having that character actually say that he

was gay or whatever, and I guess that was you know, a big no-no back then to bring that up like that. But I don't know. And also, you know, kind of kudos to have, you know, the black guy with the white woman, which was obviously I'm sure pissing off a lot of

racist white people in that time. Because this wasn't too long after the civil rights movement. Yeah, I'm quite sure. Sure, yeah, go down, man. Yeah, because who doesn't want a piece of shaft, right? But no, man, I mean, I just, I don't have too much to say about this one. This one, of the three, this was definitely kind of the downer one for me.

Yeah, I mean, I can't really give it a good review, man. I can't give it a review really at all. I saw, like, the opening sequence, and I crashed. It wasn't necessarily because of the movie. I was just exhausted. And I woke up in time to see the, the final, final sequence,

which was, you know, had some action going and it was pretty fun. Right. Drinking the gin, throwing the gasoline on the, I don't know, whatever that was that set fire to the whole fucking place.

I will, I will say this. It was really awesome to see a 1971 film that had a black man that was that confident and that much, you know, in control. of what was going on and shit.

He definitely seemed cool. Yeah, I mean, you just didn't put people of color into those roles back in that day, you know? Hollywood just didn't work that way. So, you know, kudos to that, too. I mean, there's a lot to respect about the movie and some of the things they've done. It just, like I said, didn't really grab me. Well, and the opening sequence with Shaft walking around and having the theme song going in the background was... I like that.

was a lot reminiscent of like a Saturday Night Fever, you know? Mm-hmm. Where he's walking and he's got the music playing in the background. Or another movie we're going to talk about. Yeah. So I thought that was pretty cool, man. From what I saw of it, I liked it. I'd like to watch it again.

It was longer than I expected it to be, though. Yeah. Yeah, it was like almost two hours. Yeah. Um, yeah, I agree with you guys. This is, you're saying Shaft is long? You know what? I get, you can't say it put it that way.

Yeah, I agree with you out of the three we're going to talk about, uh, not my favorite. I was, I was pretty bored with this one. Yeah. I mean, with that being said, um, the character John Shaft, he's, he's an iconic character. The music's iconic. Um. You know, he kicks ass and gets the ladies, and I thought that was going to hook me into the movie, but it's bored as shit. Yeah.

There's no way to sugarcoat it, man. It was fucking slow as hell in a lot of sports. You're in the right one. Right. You guys ready for scores? Yeah. You went first. Yeah, I mean, I liked it more than I did.

I'll give it a six. I can't legitimately give it a score I didn't watch it Yeah, not fair Yeah I'll give it a five There was There was some cool stuff I liked

You give it You give it at the shaft baby There was some cool camera shots That I liked Like the scene where the guy was choking shaft And you know He was up close on the camera And stuff like that

Right Stuff like that I liked And I just I just wanted more more action out of it and just didn't get it and the runtime was just a little too long for me. That makes sense.

Yeah, it was really dragged in parts, didn't it? Yeah. It's like the Netflix series with, uh, who was it with the black dude that was, they had a very shaft? Yeah, Cage. That I felt like it was like, it was really cool

for the first episode and then it was like, okay, I've had enough. It's getting old. Kind of the same, kind of the same thing, huh? Yeah. All right, well, hopefully it'll, hopefully we'll go up from here, right? Hopefully. So, all right.

Second feature, Foxy Brown, director and writer was Jack Hill. Something's going up from there. Foxy Brown, baby. So, let's, Jack Hill, he's known for the big bird cage, speaking of women in prison exploitation films. And the swinging cheerleaders. Now, Brian, why do I get the feeling that we're going to come across some more of this guy's works down the road? Oh, it's a very high chance we come across some of his work.

And some of her work. Oh, I hope so, man. Director Jack Hill specifically wrote the role of Foxy for Pam Greer, and he insisted on casting her despite the studio's objections. So right on Jack Hill. Yeah, what are they now? And born Inga Marchand, rapper Foxy Brown, took her stage name from this film. So, you know, what can you say about that, right?

Well, I'll go over there's on this one, I suppose. Okay. I kind of loved this movie. I thought Pam Breer was bad as fuck. Holy crap, man. There's a lot of nudity. and uh racial stars just getting thrown around everywhere

um super interesting to watch I love the stylistic approach of everything oh yeah like her her her brother the little uh link yeah

the guy was cracking Antonio Fargo hey Antonio Fargus he happens to be in all three of the films does he I was going to say is that the guy that was in I'm going to get you suckers? My guy. My guy. Yeah, dude.

I really enjoyed this one. This was a first time watch for me. And I've never seen Pam Grew back in the day. I mean, even though she looks almost exactly the same as she does right now, it's in, it was from 1971, dude. That was like almost 50 years ago. And she still looks exactly the same. so I can't say enough good things about this movie I was pleasantly surprised yeah I love Pam Greer I love Foxy Brown this not the best choreograph fights in this movie oh yeah

special effects from terrible that's part of the charm but she kicks ass one of my favorite lines in this movie is one of the chicks is coming up I think the lesbian chick in the bar. It's going to fight her and tells her I got a black belt and she answers back, well, I got a black belt in bar stool and then hits her with a bar stool. In the face. Yes.

And there's some little comedy in it. I laughed real hard at the, where she was trying to fuck her, her boyfriend in the hospital. Yeah. And the nurse walked in. And then when she's seen his, I'm assuming his erection, like slapped him in the dick.

shades of claws there Brian yeah and uh scandalous as hell don't know Brian went away again he'll be back yeah

that's great and she's a whole lot of woman they had to use that line uh-oh hate it when that happens man then there he is Brian

I'm back you're back I'm back yeah you're back okay I was gonna say we get Sid Hagan

this oh dude that was so awesome when he showed up was that him wow dude I didn't even realize I knew that guy

looked familiar to dody fucking fruity man wow and then we get that awesome airplane scene when she just

runs that guy over That was amazing But I love Pam Greer She is She's on my One of my hall pass list I knew I was waiting to see who was going to go first

Even now Yep I can't wait until we You coffee Oh yeah I heard about that one It's one of my favorite Pam Greer No shit

That one I think that one came Before Foxy Brown actually What is it called coffee coffee coffee I think it's C-O-F-F-E-Y or something like that I have to watch that yeah I think we're all going to watch that

essentially foxy brow yeah right more boobs I take it yep okay cool a lot this was this is damn near porn territory man there was a lot of boobs in this one

it wasn't that that crazy well no Well, when we get introduced to Pam Greer, we get boobs off top. Yeah, like before she even has a speaking part. Nothing wrong with that. I was like, ooh, look at her. Yeah, when I was getting this movie to rent it, I was, you know, looking up in iTunes to rent the movie to check it out.

I looked it up and it was actually like $3.99 to rent through iTunes or $4.99 to buy. And I'm like, well, fuck, you know, for an extra dollar. Yeah, what the hell? I'll, you know, I'll buy it. So I bought the movie and it downloaded, and I was telling AJ, because AJ's had me watching a different Christmas movie every night. Yeah, many of them of the Hallmark variety. Oh. Yeah.

So I said, look, I've got to watch these movies sometime before Friday. I said, you want to check one out with me? She said, eh, I'll give it a shot. I am so fucking glad I bought this movie. This is one to watch over and over again, and this is definitely one. This would be the kind of movie to put it on in the background and invite people over, drinking, maybe smoking a little bit or whatever you want to do and just, yeah, it's fucking have it in the background, man, because there was nothing super complicated about the storyline.

It was totally straightforward. It wasn't one of these things where it was really hard to follow or deep on all these different levels. the low budget look of the film and the acting and like you were talking about the choreography, even the opening sequence was just so fucking charming, man. It was just, I mean, it was not high art. It was fucking flat out black exploitation,

and it knew that it was, it was titillating, exploitative. You have all these different characters that are just like fucking, you know, 11 on a scale of 1 to 10, of what their character is. You've got the two fucking hillbillies when they send her to the ranch. These two fucking white cracker hillbillies that are fucking pumping her up

with heroin and raping her and then she gets the fucking razor blade and gets, you know, she gets her revenge with the gasoline. And you were talking about the lesbian bar too, man. Yeah, I will say she got over being on heroin really quick.

Yeah, she kind of did, man. Because they were giving her a lot. So you guys think Tarantino's ever seen this movie? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Very Tarantino-esque, man. Well, he did Jackie Brown. Tarantino's very Jack Hill-ask.

Do what? Said I almost accidentally watched Jackie Brown. Instead of Foxy Brown. I forgot which one we were watching. Yeah, he didn't do that on purpose, did he? Well, hey, man. He knows what he's doing. He knows the movie when he sees it.

This was a lot of fun. Like you guys were talking to that fucking hairplate. And the fucking blood was so so phony looking man and it just added to the to the movie. Yeah, it was like

what more? Neon. Yeah, right. That guy ain't thrown on them. And it was and the thing the thing is she was like, you know, fucking awesome in her role.

But everybody was perfect in their role. And Catherine Loder that's, I think she's also in the big dollhouse with her, which hopefully we'll cover when we do women in prison exploitation week. But did she not just fucking looked like she was completely

stoned out of her mind in every scene or on heroin or something? Oh, yeah. Was it were any drugs... Gentlemen, were any drugs harmed during the making of this film? Some brain cells might have been. Yeah,

Fargis was awesome, huh? Link? Yeah. And I like that guy. All kidding aside, though, when we had that opening sequence where he was heading up to the hot dog stand, which just happened to sell tacos. Mm-hmm. And tacos and coffee. And so he looks over and he sees these hoodlums following him, these white hoodlums.

And then all of a sudden these fucking white cops show up. And I'm thinking, you know what? This movie does a pretty good job of portraying what it's like to be a black man in America. you know, especially in fucking 1974. Well, yeah. In that time, that makes sense. Mm-hmm. Yeah, this was fucking fun.

I didn't know what I was going to expect here, but this went, it's way exceeded my expectations, big time. Yeah. You order for scores? Yeah, you bet. I'm going to give this one a number. eight and a half man I had a blast

nice nice good score like you said it was just really a whole lot of fun there was nothing too complicated about it it was it was I mean there's nothing in particular that makes it great it just is it's one of those things where

everything just came together and it it's a classic and if you haven't seen this definitely check it out it is completely worth your while and still it holds up today I am gonna go nine That's how much

I love Pam Greer Beyonce is no Foxy Pam Greer is all Foxy right here Beyonce still look pretty damn foxy in the Austin Bowles movie though Foxy Cleopatra

and she's a whole lot of woman too Oh for sure man Yeah I'll go eight I'll go strong eight on this movie I loved it This was much much much better than what I was expecting. I'm glad it was, man. But yeah, I'm glad I bought it, so I can go back and watch it anytime I want.

And I actually feel kind of good that I, you know, I don't know if anything we spend now on this trickles down to the, to anybody involved in the film. But, you know, I'd like to think that it does. But yeah, Foxy Brown, thank God, man. Big step up from Shaft for me. Yeah, definitely. All right.

So we'll move on to film number three, and this is I'm going to get you Sucka. Director and writer Kenan Ivory Wayans, also known for Scary Movie, White Chicks, and of course who can forget the sketch comedy show in Living Color. Yeah. Now, I had no idea about this, guys. Eddie Murphy came up with the original idea and title for the film during a conversation with Keenan. Wayans asked Murphy's permission to use the idea and he said go for it So that's kind of interesting

Yeah actually Keenan helped Eddie Murphy write raw No shit The stand-up movie Yeah I think that's when they came up with the idea for this I had just done a little bit of research on it So I thought that was kind of a cool tidbit Yeah man you learn something new every day

That's why we do this trivia right Yeah And then the song, of course, I'm sure you guys noticed that the song played by the band following Bernie Casey when he walks is the theme song of Shaft. So who wants to go...

Yeah, who wants to go... No, no, no, no. The hero music. Oh, that's right, okay, yeah. Every good hero needs theme music, right? All right, who's going first on this one? I'll go before my internet cuts me off. Cuts me off again.

You got us hear of me? Yeah. Yeah. I love this movie. I love all the characters in it from Jim Brown to Isaac Hayes, Hammer and Slammer. One of my favorite lines has to do with Jim Brown in this one. When he asked Keenan, what do you know about being a black hero? And Keenan answers because I'm an ex-football player.

Mm-hmm. And just like another one of my favorite. characters is Kung Fu Joe. Kung Fu Joe. Teacher! Teacher! He was like, oh shit, Bruce Lee's your teacher, and he's like, no, I'm an actor. Yeah, there's so many things

I first seen this one as a kid, and there was just so many just things I remember about it. The chick, Keenan's a little girlfriend or whatever she was, her whole scene with the cramps when she just turned his assed. Oh, that was. fucking hilarious

mostly because I just got through that time of the market it's pushed on huh and I believe this look that's funny she's like

that's not funny and I'm like and I believe this is one of Chris Rock's first scenes in a movie great scene that's my very

yeah it's a classic man how much for one rib I say I say that all the time with AJ What are you talking about? You got to see the movie.

And then you brought it up, Lance, earlier. Every good hero should have his own theme music. Oh, yeah. And then what else? There's just so many just memorable scenes in here. I always remember the scenes with his mom fighting, and it would always be the stunt double that you can clearly see as a man with a mustache. Oh, that was great.

Oh, white with the mustache. Yeah. That was funny. And in the scene, I don't know if you guys caught it when he goes to the guy that's like a Black Panther revolutionary to get help and his white kids come out. That's the little girl from Jurassic Park. Oh, yeah, I thought it was. I wasn't sure. Yeah. That should look familiar.

Bean soda. Oh, God, that's so gross, man. Yeah, I said there was a young Marlon Wayans. He was one of the kids running behind the fly guy and making fun of his outfit when he got out of prison. Oh, no shit. Yeah. So, yeah. This is the Wayans brothers before they were the Wayans brothers, you know?

And sister. Yeah, and sister. And the whole family got involved. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I really enjoyed it. I mean, it's stupid. It is a stupid fucking movie.

You have to know that going into it. It's scary movie, but like a really beta version of that. And with Blackporta. Same director. Yeah. That's scary movie. And it's before he did in living color. So, you know, I mean, they hadn't totally honed their crap yet, but, man, there was some, there was some really good laughs.

Um, it, it, I don't know if it aged as well. as it probably should have because I remember it being funnier when I was younger. Yeah, it was real. The thing I noticed, like, when the opening music came on, it's like real late 80s slash early 90s rap, right? Yeah, well, and then... Like that hip-hop.

Whenever they do the jokes, I mean, they'll have some sort of physical comedy thing that happens or whatever, and then there's like a pause. Right. And they're, like, waiting for, I guess, the audience. to laugh. But if there's no audience and no laugh track, that's weird. The pregnant paws, huh?

Yeah. There's a bunch of those. But the scenes are great. There's so many iconic moments. A young Chris Rock is my favorite thing in this movie. He's pulling my hand for 10 cents. Right. Fill up the straw.

And then he pulls out 100. You got to. I'm going to break my foot off in your ass. Get out of here. Yeah, definitely, definitely a classic. It's a fun watch. It was a fun watch that. It was a fun watch then.

It's a fun watch now. The Wayne's brothers are great. Fucking Damon Wayans' kid looks just like him. Oh, yeah. That's true. And like especially looking back at this movie I was like holy shit They could plug him in there and you wouldn't know the difference

Well maybe it's time for a sequel finally, huh? Maybe Every good hero needs one I don't know dude I feel like they'd step in a whole bunch of political correctness Leave it alone Trying to do some shit like that nowadays Oh Speaking of political correctness

We didn't even really get into a discussion about that on Foxy Brown guys. Oh yeah, yeah, dude. That movie fucking went there. Slurs everywhere. From every different race, from every different background. It was crazy. It's like, whoa, that shit wouldn't fly today.

And yeah, you're right. I mean, there were some fairly politically incorrect stuff in this movie, but you could tell the difference, like just in what the 14 years from Foxy Brown to this one, like how much more they were stepping on eggshells, even in this one versus that. Yeah. And then like, now. Oh, yeah. Right?

I'm honestly a little surprised that the Medea movies get made now. I mean, it's, I feel like there's, there's, there's so many things that you, I guess, as long as Tyler Perry is making them, but it was like a white dude making those movies, not a fucking chance. Well, Tyler Perry, Perry, period has a lot of clout. Um, but also, um, but also, um, um, I think a lot of it, a lot of the reason that they get by with that is because there's always a positive message. Yeah.

You know, and I think that kind of, you know, sort of in some people's minds that sort of justifies some of the political incorrectness or whatever. That's just my theory. I don't know. Well, we'll see. I kind of hope that they would do some shit like that, man. I think the Wayans brothers need a new thing. well what are what are they working on i mean anything new coming out i mean the last the last movie i really remember was little man right that keenan directed i never saw that no i love little man i fucking loved it dude whitechitz is so underrated that's a great oh that's a classic man they was supposed to do a sequel to that yeah well yeah i think that's that's been about it i mean what

is he working on lately all kidding I know Marlin had, what was it, those haunted house movies. Oh, those were pretty good, man. Was it just called A Haunted House or something like that? Yeah, yeah. Like two of them, I think. I think, yeah, I think there was, yeah, there was two. That had some political incorrectness in it.

Yeah. Nothing like Foxy Brown or Blazing Saddles or anything, though. No, but as far as Keenan, I think he's mostly like behind the scenes, Yeah, doing a lot of producing and stuff, just spending his money basically, right? Well, they could get the kids and stuff involved now, you know? True. Yeah, I remember when this movie came out, I was in college and I was like, there was a school newspaper that we had at UT when I was going to college. And they would show movies that were like in the kind of like the off theater there.

like they had the doby mall and they had some student housing there and they had like a movie theater that just showed like indie movies and stuff like that and I saw this was showing there and I'm like I don't know what this is

but it looks pretty funny so I went to check out the movie and I just fucking laugh my ass off man I was just I guess from that moment on I really got into the all the Wayans Brothers stuff and in living color

it's not my favorite sketch comedy show ever. That would be SCTV. But I thought it's fucking head and shoulders above like Saturday Night Live. And even though I've never missed an episode of SNL ever from day one, and that's a shitload of TV watching, I thought in Living Color just hit hit a lot. And it actually made some people pretty famous. like J-Lo, I think, was one of the fly girls.

Rosie Perez was a fly girl. Was she? Oh. Yeah, I believe so. I know one of the judges on Dancing with Stars. I can't think of her name Carrie Econawa or something like that. She was a Fly Girl. Oh, that just clicked in my head.

I remember seeing her. I definitely never seen her. That show made stars out of a lot of people. That's where Jamie Fox got to start. That's where Jim Carrey. Gary. David Allen Greer. David Allen Greer?

Fuck yeah, man. All the Wayans. Yeah. Yeah, I'm looking keening up. He's mostly producing and writing. He doesn't seem to do a lot of acting anymore. I've never, I've never seen a Wayans Brothers production that I didn't at least laugh my ass off. All of them, they're not all works of art.

You know, it's not all, you know, highbrow, you know, artsy movies. or anything like that, but I thought that this movie nailed it as far as like, you know, poking fun of the black exploitation genre in general. And this movie kind of I mean, I think airplane probably

came before this one, right? Yeah. So this was 88. Okay, that Airplane kind of started it, but like these parody movies, this had a lot to do with, you know, getting that going.

And that, probably makes sense that he would have directed scary movie one and two, you know? Yeah, absolutely. I agree with that. What did you guys think about when he went to the bar and he picked up the chick and then like she was taking her legs off and shit? That shit was funny as hell. And it would totally have to, like, if you're going to update it, that would be a scene that could still be there.

A hundred percent. You think I can still hang in there, huh? Yeah. As much plastic surgery as people have now. Oh, yeah. True, true. Yeah, what did you guys think about them bringing back the classic actors like Bernie Casey? And then, of course, bringing Isaac Hayes back who did the soundtrack for Shaft.

John Bernie. Well, it's like the old school guys, the OGs, right? Yeah, I was talking about John Burner who played Mr. Big. Oh, yeah, he was in a lot, wasn't he? Yeah, I like that line he had about a big-time actors not above playing a villain in an exploitation movie. That was perfect, man. Yeah, it was a smartly written movie. Yeah, and there were a lot of jokes that were really kind of in the background under the radar.

I think it deserves multiple watches. Yeah, I've probably seen it at least a dozen times. Oh, see, I think And this may be my second time to see it Yeah? Yeah Last time I saw it was Like

fucking 20 years ago You gotta correct that man I saw it on What's it called So you get all these streaming services now Is it voodoo I think? You guys familiar with that? Vakly

See, I've got One of those smart TVs that's got all the, like, you can basically download apps for it. I'm sure everybody who's listening is like, fuck, Lance, you fucking idiot, those have been out for 10 years. I just thought it was pretty cool that there's, you know, quite a few streaming services where you can see a lot of these movies for free. Kind of like Netflix, but you don't have to get a membership for it.

Yeah, well, this one was on Amazon for, for, yeah, if you have Amazon Prime, you can watch this one. Amazon Prime. What about the other two? Did you guys... I had to pick for those. Yeah, same here. Shaft and Foxy Brown. But I don't regret it.

I mean, I had actually never seen Shaft before. So it's something you got to check out for sure. I hadn't either. Yeah. Seems like you should have. But nope. All right, guys. Any last thoughts before we give the scores?

No, let's get in the scores. I'm going to go. Just because I've watched it. so many times. I'm gonna give it an 8.5. Nice. Yeah, I'm gonna give it an 8. I think it was I think it's definitely classic classic Wayne's. If you're a fan of the Wayans brother, you'll love this movie. Yeah, and I'm I'm going 8.5 right there with Brian man. I probably would have given it a 9. I went into this viewing expecting he gave it a 9 but Phillip it goes back to what you said man. I don't know if it's aged quite as well

as classics do age. That makes sense? Yeah. Yeah. Little, you know, early 90s feeling, late 80s, whatever. But, uh, I mean, fuck, it's an awesome movie. So if you haven't seen it, you know, anybody listening, you should definitely, uh, actually check out all three of these movies.

We, we recommend all. And, um, it's kind of cool that as we, you know, progress further into the show, we get into better movies in our opinion. right? Yeah. Except Foxy was my favorite out of the third. Yeah, it was fucking bad ass, dude.

And that one does stand up. You know, anytime. But as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of the Horror Returns. We really need to hear

your feedback, your ideas, because, you know, people who listen, shake the show. We're at the Horror Returns at gmail.com, and Melissa

might be setting up. I think she may set up another email for her Netflix show. So we may have a couple of ways for you guys to reach out to the show. And Brian, can you give us a little taste of what's to come? Next week. Yeah, next week and further on down the line. I know you've scheduled some shows way out in advance. What do we have coming up for the rest of the year?

the rest of the year we got our next installment of is it really that bad oh awesome I guess that answers that question yeah it'll be a I'll just say I'll just let people know it'll all the movies involve snakes

okay bad snake movies also we got a Christmas horror episode nice which I said before that could be another installment of is it really that bad.

Oh, true. So, yeah, and we've got guests of plenty coming up, right? Yep. Aquaman also coming out. You get to hear Melissa talk about Jason Momoa. But aside from that, I know you don't want to hear about Jason Mamoa's abs. But I've heard good things about this movie, man. Yeah, the reviews are coming out, and it's looking really, really good.

We'll see. And, of course, we will finish the movie. year off with our best and worst of the year. Nice. Which I'm still putting together my list. And I'm going to propose that we do our horror hall pass list on that episode as well. Sure. Done deal.

I have a lot of things to think about. Why not? In January, so I don't know how far you've looked out, Brian. I know we've got, don't we have the M9? Shyamalan movie coming out in January? We're pressing our luck. What movies coming out in January from him? Yeah, the

M-night movie, right? Glass. Oh, glass. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And we also believe escape room look pretty good. Yeah. Yes. I'm excited about that. Nice. Not as excited as I am about this fucking Game of Thrones one. What was it

called? The appearance. The appearance. That looks really good. I gotta find that motherfucker. And we got a lot of movies look forward to next year. The sequel to Happy Death Day. Okay. Yep. Pet Cemetery remake.

Yeah. The New Hellboy. Okay. A lot of movies. Of course, as far as superheroes, the Next Avengers movie. Oh, fuck. I can't wait. You ever think you'd hear me say that?

No. After Infinity War. I mean, yeah. Yeah, that thing made a splash. I just, I need them to pick a new Wolverine and put him in a movie. I thought it was going to be Zach Efron, or was that just like an urban legend type thing? I think that's what it was. Yeah.

Oh, wait a minute. I've got an idea, Brian. Don't you do it. Okay. Fair enough. All right, so on that note, well, wait a minute. to get some serious steroids out. Let's go through some of our guests we got coming up.

Next week is Pedro from K Fabulous and of course the NAS, right? Of course. Who do we have the week after that? Paul Stevenson from Who Will Survive podcast? Yes, sir. And after that, I believe we have art from Cali himself. Superman himself. Who better to cover Aquaman than Superman?

Yeah. And Mel, of course, right? Of course. All right, so Philip, until the horror returns again. Good night.