The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #132: Is It Really THAT Bad? Snake Edition - Sssssss (1974), Anaconda (1997) & Snakes On A Plane (2006) (Reupload)

Episode Date: August 30, 2025

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Regings victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware, this podcast contains major plot spoilers, and the foulest. of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. I'm about to open some fucking windows. Welcome back, one and all to The Horror Returns. I am Philip, not Lance, as you may have noticed, and with me as my co-host, Brian.

Lance is out doing his family things, but not to worry, we have a couple of guys you all know and love. From the K Fabulous Lucha Brothers, it's Pedro. What's up, man? Where is that, Lance? Man, he keeps on running away from me. Last time I was on, he was nowhere to be fine. Now he's out doing the family thing again. Come on.

Where are your priorities? Yeah. Damn the family. And also with this is Nez. Nez, what's happening, man? Yo, yo, what's up everybody? I'm good, man. Just trying to stay warm.

It's cold up here. Oh, I'm sure Brian knows the thing too about that, huh? It actually been kind of warm up here. As it? Yeah, earthquake kind of fucked up the weather. I had to go after the earthquake. Still filling tremors a week later. Really?

Yeah, but like I said, it fucked up the weather. All the snow melted, which kind of made for not so good road conditions, but, you know, kind of get what you get. that's craziness man you guys had like a what seven point something earthquake last week yeah ouch everything's uh construction everything's going good you know everybody's you know stores are back open schools was closed all week so but they're opening up back monday so everything getting back to where they was okay is that you cool the week no what you got man I'm gonna go, I checked out that new sci-fi show, Night Flyers. Okay.

I'm digging it so far. When we reviewed the trailer, it gave me like an event horizon kind of feel. It's like weird demon bats, right? No, it's the one on the spaceship. You remember, okay, you remember Event Horizon. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I got that vibe. I still get that vibe watching the first episode, but with, with,

with less horror, more science fiction. Okay. And, yeah, there's a lot of stuff going on that I don't really know what's going on. But I'm going to stick with it. It's only, I think only one episode's been out, maybe two. But, yeah, other than some Christmas movies, mostly like Christmas horror movies,

that's pretty much all I've seen. Well, that's cool. What do you think, Pedro, you got a cool with the week for us? Just those Black Friday sales on Blu-Rays, man. I still collect hard media, so I still collect Blu-Rays. And, yeah, I just spend more than I wanted to, but at the same time, it was pretty worth it. I went over to Vinegar Syndrome and Severin. They have a lot of niche, like, horror blurays and stuff.

So I kind of took advantage of their sales. And I picked up a lot of shit. And I'm about to go on vacation, so I'll be able to watch it. So that's going to be a good time. Did you have to go, like, super early on? Friday morning? No, I know, man. I do that shit online.

They're talking about. Ah, there you go. I don't do that, you know. Saturday. Over people and shit. No, I'm all right. I was wondering. Kevin, what's your cool of the week, man?

It wasn't Black Friday because there was nothing out there. Also, a hard media collector, mainly for steel books, but there was nothing. It was hit and miss at Walmart, Target, Best Buy.

leave those stores with like stacks of them but I only came out with like a couple so it wasn't there wasn't much but my cool of the week is I'm also a toy collector and a funco pop collector I'm a huge fan of Ultraman and Barnes & Nobles last week last Friday actually put out a Ultraman pop exclusive only to them there was only four in the store and I left one of them So I tried to get all of them, but they said, now you can only take wine, so I was going to be that guy. Piss and people off.

I'm going to end the package guy. I wanted at least one in the package, and I wanted to take one out. But that didn't work out. But Ultraman is one of my favorites out of the old school stuff from the 60s. And I think that was it. I think I would say that was my cool of the week, because other than that, it would just work.

work that's always cool so so when you when you're since you were only able to get one is that one going out of the package or is that one going to stay in the package it's going to stay in the box okay I got to pull it out but now I'm going to leave it in the box yeah that's that's that's that's been my week too man just a lot of work and it is that that is my not cool of the week so far um I think my cool the week I did watch uh the Christmas movie on Netflix because I've been watching Christmas movies with the kids. Elf, classic.

Great. But we watched the new one on Netflix with Kurt Russell in it. You guys seen that? I haven't. I've seen the trailer. I haven't seen it. I was going to watch it, but then Lance spoiled some stuff for me. Yeah, I know, right? I thought that too. I was like, God damn it.

But all in all, I think it was a pretty decent movie, man. I watched it with the kids. My wife was actually a little worried before we started it that it was not going to be appropriate for the kids. I'm like, for what? It's a Christmas movie. I don't think you know what kind of Christmas movie we're talking about

here. He plays Santa Claus. And it was definitely a kids movie. Super cutesy, but I enjoyed it. I had fun, man. I'm in the Christmas spirit. Help, hour the sleigh. But yeah, that's it for Cool of the Week.

What are we have for a horror headline? Okay, we're going to start with a little bit of TV. Any fans of American Gods, season two finally gets a release date of March 10th. Yep, March 10th, final release date. So look forward to that. That's your final answer. And let's see.

That was bad. Sorry. Are any of you guys fans of the show Fantasy Island? The old show from back into the day. I was. De Blaine. Yeah. I might be the only one that was around when I was going.

I remember watching it. The Sodium Blumhouse are rebooting it into a movie, a horror movie. And this is going to be directed. Yeah, this is going to be directed by Kickass 2 and Truth of Dare director Jeff Wadlow. Oh, that guy sucks, man. he's had actually truth or there I got my list right here

that's in my top five worst films of the year fucking spoiler alert on that one yeah me too yeah spoiler for mine it's on there and also kickass two wasn't a very good movie either no

yeah definitely didn't compare the first one oh it didn't so yeah the guy's old for two and you'll probably be old for three to be honest he's taking a classic yeah pretty easy to screw that up let's see Apple has

Apple's gonna be having their own streaming service coming soon and they're rebooting what is it amazing stories if you guys remember that show yeah yeah what was amazing stories is Steven Spielberg can be a part of it probably not

you know what was the one that comes to mind for me was the one about that pilot whose wheels wouldn't come down and then he just drew some he just draw some wheels on a paper and then they just became like a cartoon and the actual plane landed with cartoon wheels on it that's the episode that I remember from amazing stories

I don't know if you guys ever ever saw that one yeah that was a good one because it was like just it was just dread through the whole thing because he figured he was going to die because his wills wouldn't come down. But yeah, I haven't even thought about that one in a long time. But yeah, that was a good episode.

I don't even know what amazing stories. Is it like a Twilight Zone kind of thing where they have a different story on every episode? Yeah, but it was more fantasy than like horror or like, you know, sci-fi. When was it out? Around the same time as the Outer Limits remake and the Twilight Zone remake were on maybe like mid-80s. Really? Man, I don't remember this one at all.

Yeah, well, that was during the, there was a shitload of anthology shows during that era. So you probably got lost in the shuffle for you. Yeah, that's true. But they were all pretty amazing. I loved those shows. Yeah. I suppose it was the early CGI. So, I mean, it was awesome when it was airing, but you look at it now.

And it's like, eh. But it was a good show, man. I liked it. I watched it every week. I'd have to go back and revisit some of those They might be on YouTube So if they are check them out They never got an official

I don't think they've ever got an official release though I don't I've never seen it I would like to purchase those Because there were there were some fun episodes on there I think if they did maybe Maybe VHS but I'm not sure Yeah And finally

Those looking forward to Joe Bob Briggs Next marathon on Shutter will be December 21st, and that will be a very Joe Bob Christmas. It's just some dude, right? Yeah. He's making a career, man. And I mean, he's got a big, you know, a huge following within the horror community. And he was kind of like, I first saw him a monster vision back in the late 80s, early 90s.

Oh, okay. So he's at least been doing it a while. Yeah. And then, you know, his stick is that he sits in a little. trailer park and he goes through all the uh the the death counts with his you know wacky ways and that's pretty much it you know it's just a guy that just has the following he's like uh like the old um horror show host you know from back in the day from like the 50s and the 60s okay yeah so what happened was that during the summer they did um they did the the first marathon on shutter and it completely

overloaded shutter to the point where the website crashed the app and so I guess they found out this guy was a huge hit, and they booked them again for Thanksgiving. And then I guess that was a huge hit, so now he's coming back for Christmas. So he's kind of riding on that hype right now. Making shut her worth it. And he'll be at Texas Frightmare this year, for the next one. There you go. And, yeah, not a lot of news, so that's all I have.

All right. going on down to the trailer park where we bring you the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what trailers do we have to talk about this week? I have a feeling there's a big one. Yep, but we'll get to the one that just dropped today, actually. It comes from, it's produced by James Gunn,

and this one's called Bright Burn. And this stars Elizabeth Banks and Matt Jones, Breaking Bad fans will know him as Badger. David Denman and Meredith Hanger. And this is directed by David Yorvetzky. And haven't recognized much he's directed, but he has worked with Gun on like the Belko Experiment and Guardians of the Galaxy.

So what did you guys think of Brightburn? Was this Bizarro's origin story because that's all I got. I'll see it. It looks cool. Yeah, I don't know what to think about this one. He's like a psycho-superman sort of origin story. I was going to say, when I saw it, I don't know how, I don't know.

I can't really say what movie or what character. I'm just thinking, somebody's going to sue somebody here. Because there's so many things from different genres that were spliced. You know, like, you know, like you were saying, you have the bizarre thing. You know, there's, I got, I got some, uh, some Superman vibe from it in the beginning. Uh, there's all kinds of little, I got some powder vibes from it towards the end with the, the kid doing all that shit with his mouth. Um, so, so, so definitely, uh, not the most original piece, but, uh, and they're putting it in the summer, too, which is a big risk.

Because it's a memorial day or whatever, um, which is kind of the summer. Uh, so, so, yeah, so we'll see. I mean, it was all right. I'm going to see if I could catch it. Is anybody familiar with this character? Is it just something they made up? I think this is something possible. Let me double check.

It's got to be a made-up character. Yeah, if you guys don't know what it is. This is no mate. This is written by James Gunn's brothers, Brian and Mark Gunn. Uh-oh, that's not a good sign. All right, fine. I'll make your fucking movie. Yeah, somebody called in a favor during the Thanksgiving dinner.

shit well there you have it release date may 24th so yep right there in the blockbuster summer movie schedule if they don't watch it

they're gonna get you in alive by those big Hollywood ones man because you know all guns are blazing in the summertime for those big Hollywood studios yep that's true and on to the biggest trailer of the week which is

Avengers Endgame starring pretty much everyone everyone under the sun pretty much yep if they wasn't dust they're in this movie

and probably if they was dust they'll probably be back in this movie you're hoping before we get into it I think they should wait on all these things because a lot of people that aren't familiar with the Infinity Gauntlet story

everyone's always asking questions. Like, I've been getting questions from people at work, like, well, I thought this person died. Why is he, why is the Spider-Man? Didn't he die? Why does he have another movie coming? And I'm like, well, I don't want to ruin it for you, but you should just

wait until, uh, yeah, the next few movies come out. Because, uh, what, Captain Marvel's first, uh, then, end game, and then, when does Spider-Man come out after? Like a month after. Okay. Yeah. See, I mean, I don't know why they're,

To me, I just think it's ruining it for everyone that doesn't know what's coming. So I'm kind of like, ugh. The trailer on this one, or just the layout of the movies in general? I mean, they're releasing, just letting everyone know that there's another Spider-Man movie coming. I mean, fans know, but the people that aren't familiar with the storyline and these characters because they saw everyone supposedly die in Infinity War and now they're all wondering why

is it so Spider-Man is still alive because he's got a new movie coming and all that so I'm like I mean I know what's coming and I know what's Spoiler alert Yeah they're going to change it all but I think they should just kind of wait I don't even think they should have dropped this until after

Captain Marvel but that's me I don't know but what I saw in the trailer I did get hyped so I'm yeah it was A lot of questions. There's a lot of videos going around already. Of just speculation on what each little scene that we've seen in this trailer meant. I'm excited, but I was really hyped that Ant Man popped up at the end.

So I was stoked at that. But my question was, how the fuck did he get out of the quantum realm? So we'll see. But that's good because that's what a trailer's job. It's supposed to make you question that. So you could pay money to go see it and get the answers. But to play devil's advocate here, you know, when you're an artist, when you're a filmmaker, you can't be worried about whatever somebody else is going to, you know, the promotion of other movies, you know, and that's the thing that when you're making, when you're trying to tell a story, you know, you shouldn't be worried about, oh, well, the corporation, the company's going to release, you know, somewhat spoilers on Spider-Man and Black Panther and all that stuff. It's like you can't be writing the story with. the idea that the fan base is going to be worried about why is there going to be another movie

when the characters died. It's got one has them to do with the other. And that's just what we have now because of the internet and how news gets out nowadays. It is going to be a product of the times. But it just frustrates me because, you know, they're just trying to tell a story here. Like, it doesn't matter if Disney releases all their film slate coming up in the next two years. But the fact that the news is so readily available now influences are, our questions, right? It's like, well, and our anxiety. It's like, what the fuck? Why is there,

why did a Spider-Man die when he's going to come out with another movie? So you're creating this weird, like, cognitive imbalance in people, but it really shouldn't be there. And that's a thing that it's like, one has nothing to do with the other, but fanboys and, you know, general audiences alike, they're like, well, I want, I want these answers. And that's like, no, you shouldn't. Same thing with the trailer. Like, people are criticizing the trailer. We forget what a trailer is supposed to do. It's supposed to sell you. the movie. It's supposed to get your ass to the theater. You know, and a lot of people who have been complaining, well, they didn't show enough.

Well, no fucking, it's a, it's a fucking teaser. Yeah. Its job is to get you to the theater. They're going to show you the whole fucking movie in a traitor. It's the very first one. And that's the thing that we've created this internet community that's so, you know, they just don't have the patience. They don't have, you know, it's like they want so many answers and they want it now

that they forget that there's a whole movie coming out, you know, just show the fuck out. We're going to get to see it in April. and we're going to have a good time with it. And I love this teaser, by the way. I thought it was great. I thought it gave us enough. And then it also left us with some questions,

which again, that is the point of a trailer. And I love that. I felt that they gave us a little too much. They revealed Hawkeye's new identity, which I thought was a big reveal. They revealed Ant Man, what happened to Atman after his last movie. So there was a lot there to kind of, you know,

satisfy the fanboy. Well, at the same time, leaving us wanting more. And that's good. I thought the trailer was phenomenal. Yeah, I don't want another one after this. I just want to go in with this one. Because when I watch this one, the beginning of this trailer or teaser, it kind of gave me that feeling that I had when Infinity War ended

because it was very on a down note. Yeah. It kind of brought you back with Ant Man at the end, with a little bit of humor. And I just kind of want to go into the movie, which they've moved up the release date from May to April. So it's coming faster. They did that this year as well. Yeah. Another big question is, how much of this trailer isn't going to be in the movie?

Because with these past ones, they put out these trailers. That's true. They fuck with people. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, we go see these movies expecting to see something awesome that's in the trailer. that they've been shoving down our throats and then it's not in the movie. I'm still waiting for the incredible Hulk

to be running with everybody else in Wakanda. What is that going to happen? Yeah, exactly. Well, I'm sure this is the first of a billion trailers for this movie to come out because it's going to be huge. And that's just the way that production works. But I don't think it needed a trailer.

I think this movie is going to be big enough on its own and they could have just gone in trailerless and been fine as a matter fact it could have been a cool stunt that saved him a ton of money but uh yeah but the fam boys would have rioted if that would have happened that you can't do that nowadays uh i think it would be cool though i agree with you i agree with you yeah they're they're pissed right now because uh that that comic convention in brazil uh they just debuted the the new spider man trailer and they didn't put it online after that. So a lot of fanboys pissed off right now.

Oh. Well, see, and maybe they should have left the production of the Spider-Man and all that stuff a little dark for a while after Infinity Wars already comes out. Or maybe push back the release date, but that's all, you know, the studio more than the directors and stuff. Yeah, yeah. But I do agree with you guys that if giving the choice, they should have just, like you said, it's just gone dark with the news of all these sequels. But I'm sure they have their reasons.

Maybe it's a contractual thing. Maybe, you know what I'm saying? So I think they have their reasons why they had to do it this way. I'm not going to be mad at it either way. I'm going to be sitting in the theater for every one of these movies. So bring them on. We've got to remember what the Spider-Man shit. That's Sony's involved in that.

So, they go. But it's still, it's still in the MCU. But Sony has control. I think Disney needs to just give them like a trillion of dollars here. Sony will never let go of Spider-Man. So wait, okay, but Disney

did the last Spider-Man, right? Yeah, it was a combined effort. Yeah, but it was mostly Disney, right? And it was just Sony wasn't letting go with the name. Yeah, they own the movie rights, which they'll never let go because even the shitty Spider-Man movies made money. Yeah. And even

Venom made money. And Sony's claiming this is where it gets confusing. Sony's claiming that Venom is part of the MCU and Disney's claiming this he's not part of the MCU, so I'm kind of confused there, you know what I'm saying? But that's the way, that's what happens when you've got two studios working together. Oh no, he will be. The checks in the mail.

I swear to God. Now Fox and Disney, they fucking hate each other. Now, I know I think they're just, the deal's about to go through where they're going to buy them, where it already went through. But before they hated each other, they can't stand each other. And that's why they would never make deals with each other. So that's, that's a whole different animal right there. But now the new Spider-Man movie, is that going to be a mostly Fox or mostly Disney thing? No, no, that's Sony. Yeah, this is it's a same thing. It's, it's, um, they're going to

be combined. Now, it's funny because I think Tom Holland's contract is only for five movies and I think his contract ends with this upcoming movie so I don't even know what's going to happen with that. It just been so many Spider-Man's running around lately who knows what's going to happen there. Yeah, my

fear with that is Sony's going to get big-headed and try to go back to doing it their own because Venom is like over 800 million worldwide right now. Why? That movie sucks, man.

That one, I don't know how it made so much money. I enjoyed it, but yeah, it was pretty split down the middle from everything that I saw. All right. Now, going back to the Avengers trailer, to me, like, the irony of all this would be if And Man, and this is just like fanboy fantasy book in here, as we call it in wrestling, if Ant Man is the key to all this, when behind the scenes, for a while there, especially in phase one, Ant-Man was kind of like the red-headed stepchild of the entire MCU there for a while. And here we are, you know, 10 years later.

And that character might be the key to defeating Thanos if it's not, you know, Captain Marvel or whatever. It's either one of the two. But I just find it ironic that the character that got kind of like, you know, there was so much behind the scenes controversy when Animan 1 came out. And, you know, they didn't really believe in that character and all that. And so here we are. And that character might be the more, the most over character in the entire MCU when it's all said and done. I just find it kind of funny in a lot of ways.

Yeah, that's a good point. I think they're going to use the, or Scott's going to use the quantum energy or whatever hell they called it to reverse everything and bring everyone back. Yeah. And they're probably going to go too far. I still think Captain Marvel's going to be a part of it. I mean, this is just the first one. We'll probably get at least two more before the movie comes out.

and I'm hoping. I mean, I wasn't really fan of Captain Marvel, but the movie looks all right. I mean, I'll see it. And I don't know. I don't know. I mean, they really did kind of veer off on the actual story. I mean, just because of some of the characters they don't have yet

dealing with Fox and everything. So I don't know. I mean, but what this trailer was is just here. You guys need to shut up for a while. We're going to give you this. Yeah. Because everybody was, everyone was just bashing them. Come on, we want something.

We want something. So, all right, here you guys go. Now, shut up. And they're going to not talk about it for a while until I assume when Captain Marvel comes out, we'll get another one. Oh, yeah. It is interesting. I was going to say, it is interesting how Iron Man is being by himself.

And I'm like thinking, where the hell is Dr. Strange? You know, they were together when we last saw them. you know and and and so that's gonna be interesting how that how that turns out i'm just happy we're getting hawkeye as ron yeah and he looked he looked facing the trailer too yeah i'm gonna say his family's gone yeah that's that's what i that's what i figured i think uh nebula's with uh tony because she puts her hand on somebody's shoulder and it looked like they were in that uh guardian ship Oh yeah, yeah, because she was with them to at the end there. It was them three that were left.

That's right. Yeah. I don't know. We'll see. But then again, we don't know how much is going to be in the movie. Yeah. Just leading us down a rabbit hole. All right.

Avengers Endgame April 26. Right around the corner when you think about it four months away. Yeah, not too bad. All right. And now it's time for listener feedback. Beed Your Mind. This is, hi, everyone. The latest edition of my column,

The Horror Down Under, is now online at the screamcast.com. In this one, I explore next of kin, an incredibly underrated and eerie 1982 Aussie horror film that's a unique mix of many different sub-genres, like psychological horror, haunted house, slasher, and Gaiyo? I don't know what they are.

Jallo. Jalo. Jalo? Jalo? Yeah. Dude, I'm not the expert here. This is definitely one of my favorite editions, and I've a black exploitation part two sometime in the near future, huh?

Yeah, it's on the docket. Oh, awesome. Okay, so we'll definitely get that remedied. Eric King says, Shaft was groundbreaking. From everybody falling on the floor asleep at the same time, you all spent five whole minutes talking about it. White Mama, Black Mama is good.

Pam Greer wanted to throw into the scantily clad prisons, scantily clad prison women's exploitation category. God, there's a lot of categories. Regarding the poster for You Might Be the Killer. Nate Peterson says Allison Hannigan and Fran's, a friend, that's a tongue twister. Fran Cronz. Sign me up.

I just watched that one last night How was it? It was It was one of those Self-referential horror films That if you get it wrong Is the movie gonna be a complete joke But it picks up there in the second half

So I would definitely, it's definitely worth the watch It just premiered there on Shudder I think like last week Okay And it's cool It's cool Yeah It's nothing groundbreaking

But it's a good time Just get through the first half Where it doesn't take this out too seriously and it picks up at the end. Okay. It kind of reminds me of Final Girls, that movie Final Girls, where it's kind of like meta in a lot of ways. Oh, okay.

Yeah. Is it on demand? Yeah, it's on Shudder, yeah, on demand. Oh, Shutter, shudder, yeah. Okay, cool. Yeah, I'll check that one out. We got Tim Davis. Whoever put the chocolate salty ball song at the end of the last episode is now my hero.

Hey, that made me smile. as me, guys, thanks. Another great episode, guys. Eric King says, that shit cracked me up to, good episode. I felt it was appropriate. Regarding night flyers, Bill Longa says,

Lance Langford, I'm digging it so far. Okay. Lance says, well, if it is keeping him too busy to write the winds of winter, I'm against it. Patrick Lear says he's never going to write that. But you said it's good, huh, Brian? Yeah.

I mean, after one episode, I'm still digging it, but you know, you never know. Shows can turn around quickly. Yeah. It usually takes them a minute to get good. So if it's already good, it's interesting. Did you guys watch Castle Rock? Did you get finished it or start it? I finished it.

Oh, because I just reminded me, Brian, that's a good example I thought. I mean, it started off with a lot of potential, and then every week it was like, it was becoming more and more of a chore, and I just never finished it. Yeah, that's kind of a good point. It dragged, it dragged at the end. Yeah.

I got through like four episodes, maybe, if that. Regarding the new release date for American Gods, Eric King says, yeah, that three out of ten on the poster, that's my rating too. Ooh, doesn't sound excited about American gods. Three out of ten, no. Yeah, ouch.

Okay, and we got a, hey, y'all, Mel here. Oh, there she is again. We are working on this new show about all the awesome horror content available on streaming services like Netflix and Hulu. But I want to hear from you guys. What would you most like to hear for us to cover on these shows? Do you want more in-depth analysis or spoiler-free reviews? Would you like fun facts about the stars of the shows, more interviews? Is there anything that you really want to hear on the show?

Thanks for your input, and I can't wait to get to know y'all. That's from Melissa. Patch Clear says, which ones have gratuitous nudity? Nootty. Is that her name for that show? Not yet. In process. Working on it.

Darren Wilson. The boys. Melissa and the boys. That's not bad. I like it. Darren Wilson says, I'm all about either spoiler-free or in-depth dive or both on Netflix slash Hulu shows, as long as I know beforehand

so I can hold off if I'm behind. I guess if it's a bulky season, the spoiler-free makes more sense to me since there are so many seasons people are trying to keep up with. Oh, that's a good point. The TSA. Well,

I guess spoiler-free makes a little bit of sense. Bid Your Mind says I'd say maybe a mixture of both films and TV shows from both of those, especially Netflix, since they always have

original content from around the world. Mel says, do you prefer spoiler-free or more in-depth? And is there anything else you guys would like to see us discuss during these shows? Guys, we need more feedback

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And now to... Oh, we got a bottom five of 2018. Is that what we're doing today? Top and bottom. Okay, cool. All right, Pedro. And since we're approaching the end of the year, we wanted to see if we could get your top and bottom five horror movies of the year.

I think you guys both gave us your rundown. Pedro? Okay, so you want me to go first? Yeah. All right, so this is the worst horror films of the year in my eyes. All right? I'm going to start with number five, and it's going to be a very polarizing and controversial film.

Because I know it's gotten a lot of love. Wait, wait, wait. Top five? Yes, top five, right? Are we doing top five? Go, go, go, go. Okay. So, tough, number five,

is getting a lot of love lately. I was watching it. I had no fucking idea what was going on. And I was very annoyed by the lead actress. That would be a film by the name of Cam. That's currently on Netflix. Cam, I've heard good things. I've heard good things, too,

but my eyes didn't see good things. That's the problem. Or my ears. for that matter. I just thought it was, I thought there was something there. I thought the film had potential, the,

but it just, you get no resolution and, and, you know, again, it just, for where it goes, I just,

I was very dissatisfied. Number four would be the first purge. I didn't really like. I thought it was the weakest one, uh, even including the first one, which the first one was just comical. It's like,

like, B movie humor with the first one if you think about it. But I just didn't really care for the first purge. Then number three was Truth or Dare. I couldn't stand that fucking movie, man. I paid money to see that movie, and it's stuff. I just thought, you know, they were, and then it had this weird, like, Blum houses truth up there,

like the gall of that company to put their name on a film like that. Number two was Cloverfield Paradox. Now, for the people that don't remember, they had the greatest fucking marketing scheme ever. So you're there drinking, watching the Super Bowl, and all of a sudden there's this fucking badass trailer, right, for a new cover film movie. Now, they didn't tell anybody.

They kept this shit under wraps. How they did it that, I don't know. Maybe Disney should take a page from their book for once or twice. They were able to just fucking keep this shit secret. And you're there watching the Super Bowl, all of a sudden the trailer comes out, and you're thinking, oh shit, when does this movie come out? And then it says,

stream on Netflix after the game that's fucking genius in my eyes bro because it means like the millions and millions of people that watch the movie and then the fucking movie

suck dude like I felt that fucking like you could tell it was another movie and they just edited a couple quick things and then it just made it a Cloverfield movie like come on

and it was confusing and it bothered me because that was their way out of trying to explain all these other Cloverful movies that are going to come out oh with the Time Paradox thing, fucked everything up.

So now it's going to be different loops and time loops and all that shit. Nah, man, I didn't fly with me. So I hated that fucking movie. And then the first one, and this one I went on this very show, and I cut a passionate promo, a passionate rant of this piece of shit fucking movie, called Insidious 4 The Last Key. This is going all the way back to January, man. That's true.

I came up, no, and not only did I bury it, my co-host buried it with me, Lance, Brian. we all buried it together because it was just an atrocious fucking movie and that's my worst movie of the, my worst horror film of 2018.

So that's my top five right there. I mean my bottom five. Bottom five, okay. So. Do you have it? Okay, let's go Nez's bottom five.

In no order. I mean, these are just five movies that I just thought sucked. Five shitty movies, okay. I was looking forward to some of them, but then they just, fell like straight to the bottom. Slander Man being

Oh, yeah, that's gotta be crap. I never saw that one, thankfully. You didn't miss anything. I think this movie came out way too late. It came out way too late. That movie was crap. Number four, I would say the possession of Hannah Grace.

That was just bullshit. The beginning, was all right and then it just went downhill from there. Is that the new one? Yeah. Oh, no. It's no good. Yeah, don't even bother with that one.

All right. I don't know if you guys are doing it, but I would have seen it. It was crap. I'm a sucker for these things, so I'm going to do it, but thank you for the warning. I mean, it starts off good. It had potential, but it seemed like the movie was really short, and it seems like they just rushed it. just tried to hit you with the creepiness factor and the jump scares.

That was all they put in. They didn't really go into much of a story of this Hannah Grace person. So, but yeah, whatever. I mean, the chicks didn't wear hot. That was about it. Next one, I would go, truth or dare. That one was crap. That was no good.

I hated it. I was excited. Oh, another horror movie, Blumhouse? No good. next one I would go that day of the dead whatever it was called blood lights

no good that may have been our first one for the year I was excited I cool another one no it was it was no good the little stealth ninja whatever zombie

no Um, how many was that four? Yeah. Okay. Number one would be, I never really thought about a bottom list. I just had my top five. All right. Well, we can.

I'll come back. I mean, I really didn't think. I saw a lot of crappy stuff. Which is the worst one. All right, Pedro, you got a time. Top five? Yes. Okay.

This ought to be good. Well, this is the one where I think we're all going to have some of the similar names on our list because... Sure. So we have The Strangers, the new movie, that's number five, The Strangers. Pray at Night. I thought that movie was incredible. I thought the way the filmmaker built attention, I thought the homages that were in that film, you know, we saw an homage to a Christine.

we saw an homage to the Texas Chainsaw Massacre that I thought it was well laid out to me that film had a lot of heart because you could tell the filmmaker was a huge fanboy and I mean for better awards that always works with me if I see that in the filmmaker it kind of always gets brownie points

for me because it shows the respect for the genre and I don't know I thought everything the deaths were very sadistic and for a mainstream film I thought the deaths were like very cruel and I thought the deaths were like very cruel and I thought

there's that pool scene I don't know if you guys seen this film but I'm not going to spoil it but the pool scene was awesome it would have been better if it would have had like a more permanent payoff

and I'll say that but besides that I thought it was great and I thought the ending was great so yeah that was a great fucking movie the strangers what do you guys think of that one

I love the soundtrack because it was all 80s hell yeah yeah that was great it was what it was. It wasn't like the first one, but I mean, I enjoyed it. I didn't leave the theater

like hating it. But yeah, I mean, it was cool. I dug it. I know a lot of people didn't, but it was cool, man. I think what I wanted was more of an explanation a little bit of who they were.

But I'm glad they didn't do it because that's the more... I think that's their gimmick. Now, whenever they do this, it's just like, you know, like they say the first one, you know, why did you do this? Because you were home, you know, and people catch on to that, and that's kind of what they were going to write on. So number four was a little surprise film for me. I wasn't expecting much out of it, but I had a great time with it. And that's mom and dad with Nicholas Cage. Oh, yeah. That was a great fucking movie.

I love the premise. How, you know, there's this, they never really explained it, which is pretty cool, where all the parents want to just kill their kids, right? I don't know where, too. And so what I like It's metaphorical for real Yeah there you go What I liked about this though Is that that subtlety of like Nick Cage and Salmo Blair

Helping out all the other kids And you're thinking okay well this is good We can go with this And then as soon as their fucking kids get home They completely switch them around And they become the villains And they want to kill their fucking kids So that was pretty cool

I like how they did that And yeah I mean is Nick Cage being Nick Cage What are you going to say about that The guy's wacky and we love him for it. So I really had a great time with that film. And it's short, too, it's like an hour and 20 minutes. But it's like, it really, you know, it picks up right away.

That one, if you haven't seen it, is definitely worth the watch. Yes, yes it is. My top three are pretty much the consensus, I think, with a lot of the community. It would be hereritary would be number three. I love that film. I thought, you know, that's the kind of film where you could see maybe the rewatchability value of that film is great, which is always good if you still collect hard media like I do. And just the story that it was trying to tell doesn't really start to make sense until you watch it a second time,

which again, I love those kind of films. And the way they were able to hold that tension, because that film is just like this big ball of tension throughout this two-hour running time. And I always feel that's such a hard exercise. to be able to do, you know, because you have to kind of keep the audience at the edge of their seat for two hours. And I know that towards the end, it got a little muddy for a lot of people, and a lot of people didn't really understand what was going on. And I get it. But again, in repeat viewings, I just loved it, and I keep, the more I watch it, the more I love it. Number two would be a quiet place.

Now, I love what they did with, like, there wasn't really a lot of, like, I don't know, they did so much with so little in that, in that, in that film, you know? I love how they did exposition on the, I guess you would say the monsters or whatever with just like that there's a scene where Jim Halpert is right there in his office, you know,

and they have all these newspaper clippings and that's such exposition for what's going on, but they never really say it and I love that shit. You were watching the office in the background, right? Yeah, exactly. That's what that one. And then number one would be Annihilation.

I thought that movie was phenomenal. I thought it was a mixture of like Predator with like females. And, you know, it was, when I first saw the trailer, I thought it was going to be like this artsy-fartsy kind of film. And it was towards the end. But it was still very understandable. You could know what's going on. But I thought it had a lot of like B-movie tropes to it too,

which I really appreciate it, you know. And it's like this kind of, you know, your typical story of this like group of people going in and all of them coming back out. You know, I'm always a sucker for that storyline. So, yeah, so that's my number one movie right there of the entire year. My number one horror film would be Annihilation. It was a great fucking. That's high praise, man.

I didn't know it was horror. I thought it was just sci-fi. Man, it's all. Come on, man. I haven't seen it. That's why. Oh, I'm sorry. I thought you were.

Oh, yeah, dude. Go check that movie out. That's one of the movies I bought during the Black Friday sales, but I haven't sat down and watched it yet. I thought it was just strictly sci-fi. Okay, I'll check it out. Yeah, no, it's a great film.

Okay, going back to number one, it'll be a battle between the nun, the Meg, and Venom. Oh, for the bottom five, number one. Yeah. Hey, hey, let me tell you something, Kevin. You scared me there for a minute because I was

about to unload on you, brother. I was like the nun what the fuck I forgot about that one shit I didn't I didn't really like that one I mean I thought that they laid out a good story for this character

and it just kind of fell flat to me I didn't I didn't really enjoy it as much as I wanted I was excited that it was coming and I just it just fell flat down I'm still gonna pick it up when it comes out.

But I think I'm going to knock that one off this. And as much as I hated Venom, I think I'm going to go with the Meg. That movie was just horrible. And people are loving the Meg, too. I don't get it. I love Shark movies. And even the stupid, cheesy ones I love. But this one's, no, they just put too much money into the actors that were in it.

so but yeah whatever okay yeah that would be my number one okay um my top five i didn't think it was a horror movie but oh no no no i'm sorry not this one uh one a couple of these i didn't think were horror movies but they are in the horror i know a lot of people didn't like this one but i did i had a really fun a fun time with it um was hell fest i mean it was just totally predictable through the whole thing but i mean i really enjoyed it i went in there ready to just hate it and not like it. But for what it was, it was a popcorn movie. I'm glad when I saw, I saw like that first night and they care, that first day it came out.

I assume everybody was still in school because it wasn't full, full of kids. So I enjoyed it. I would say that one would be number five. Okay. The next, I would go strangers. I really enjoyed that one. After that, I would go. See, this is when I would get to that.

I didn't think it was a horror. movie, but it was label horror was insane. Oh, I love that film. Especially on an iPhone. Yeah. That movie was awesome. I loved it. I didn't really look into it to see what it was

going to be about. I just wanted to go see it. And oh my God, that movie was awesome. I was the same way, dude. Same thing. I didn't want to know. I just saw it and I thought it was, it looked cool, the name. I didn't know nothing. And I thought it was fucking awesome. And you wouldn't guess in a million years that it was filmed on an iPhone. it looked clunky there in the beginning though

like there was something off about it and then yeah you're right later on I read how they filmed they're like okay but it looked weird like but but yeah no you're right and um there's a it's weird because that film unsate has a reveal if you guys see it's not gonna spoil it but there's a reveal halfway through the film that shouldn't be a reveal but it is a reveal because of what we're trained to think as far as twist and it was like it just blew my mind

man I was like oh shit it's pretty cool what they did there you know but yeah I know I really like all right my number two would be hereditary I thought that was an amazing film

I had to watch it over and over again I mean the first time I watched it me and my buddy was sitting there in the theater afterwards breaking it down and trying to explain it and other people that were listening to us kind of joined in so I thought that was cool we had this big roundtable

sitting there in the theater as the credits for rolling so that movie was awesome I loved it. My next one is just mainly because I'm just the fanboy for it, and it was awesome. 40 years later, and that was Halloween. Yes, there was plenty of stuff in it that I did tear apart a little bit, but I think it was more just nostalgia for the whole movie

because there was just a ton of nostalgic Easter eggs throughout the film. So I really loved it. And just to see Michael Myers on the big screen, screen again was awesome other than Jamie Lee I was wishing this would be it would have been it but the way as much money is that movie made of course there's going to be another one they're already talking about Danny McBride said he has an idea Jamie Lee's already on board she goes if they make another one I want to be in it and I don't know if that won't be as good as this one but like again just for the

nostalgic value of my childhood the past 40 years with this character I mean, I really love the movie. I think out of all the movies that I had mentioned, theater-wise, I saw that the most. I saw it five times in the theater. Oh, wow. I enjoy it every time. So that would be my number one.

I loved it, too. It was great. All right. So now we have a wrestling roundup. If your smile is cooking. That's for you wrestling guys, Brian and Pedro mostly. Nez, you into wrestling?

Yeah, the last few paper views, my favorite one was Evolution. Oh, all right. That was a great show. No, I, go ahead. So what's going on in the WWE? Go ahead, Pedro. Well, one of the, we've had some tragedies lately. Obviously, Roman Raines got diagnosed with leukemia, so he's out and, you know, wish him the best.

He's been iron about in football games and stuff, so it seems like he's doing good. I just don't appreciate how they're using his sickness as a storyline. It seems like they're exploiting him a little bit there. But that's wrestling. It's always been like that. We also had the passing of the Dynamite Kid, which was last week, I believe, or a couple days ago as of this recording. And the thing about the Dynamite Kid that people don't know about is that he's hugely influential now. And a lot of the style that you see now was brought about by him and a guy called Tiger Mask in Japan.

from 1981 to 1983, they kind of revolutionized the way a wrestling match is performed in the ring. And them being those pioneers have kind of brought us to the point we're out now. Everybody always talks about Sean Michaels and Rick Flair and Red Heart and these guys being the best ever. But if you really see how wrestling is done now, especially with the indie scene being what it is now, which is pretty big, it traces all back to the Dynamite Kid and Tiger Mask. You know, they were the ones that were doing the toll phase and the very fast style that we see nowadays. So yeah, so that's pretty much it. And then finally, we had the Survivor Series that I actually, I was there live for that show.

And that was my favorite paper review, a little more than Evolution. Although I thought Evolution was a phenomenal show as well. And I thought Survivor Series was the fun show, top to bottom. I thought Daniel Bryan and Brock Lesner was a great match, especially because Brock gave him a lot. you know he sold for him um i'm using some wrestling vernacular here so i hope people understand what i'm talking about um and so yeah so it's been it's been uh it's been okay it's been kind of then after survivor series which was like well like like almost a little like three weeks ago it's got it really really dumb and really because they because they're because roth doesn't really have any

baby faces that could carry the load or good guys so so it's been like bad guy heavy right now so it's kind of an a low right now but i'm sure he's gonna pick up during rassomania season so That's where I am with all this. Pedro, let me ask you. I've already asked Brian this question. What do you think of Ronda in the WWE? I think it's great. I think she's like she picked it up fast.

And that's one thing that impressed me about her because, you know, training to be a professional wrestler ain't easy. You have guys that have been doing it for years and they still have trouble locking up, you know? And she's a natural at it. Her instincts are incredible. And, you know, she's not clunky. She's in the right spots at all time. No, I think it's great.

I think they should have used her as an attraction because I think it would have been better for ticket sales and, you know, if they would have kept her special. But obviously, they just kind of want to use her as one of the regular performers. So she's constantly on television. And I think her unique appeal is going to kind of diminish through time. Like anything, you know, the more you see it,

the less value is going to have. And I think that's the mistake they're making with her. But other than that, I think she's done a great job. Yeah, because I was a little iffy when they first. I mean, we knew it was coming after WrestleMania, was it 32? The one that was... 31, yeah, 31. Oh, 31, yeah.

When she had that incident with Stephanie and the Rock and all those guys, you knew that was coming. So we just didn't know when. And after she lost her matches with the MMA stuff, that's all right, she's going to come over. And I was like, okay, whatever. And once she got here, I was still kind of like, eh, because she really didn't do much. But when WrestleMania happened, that's when I was sold. I was like, oh, my God, I thought she was amazing. She did an amazing job and everything that I've seen her in pay-per-view-wise or even on Raw and everything.

I mean, she puts in the work, and she even said it. She goes, I don't want to be just one of those ones for paper dues, and that was it. I want to be a regular in the locker room. I want to just basically pay her dues. And I really loved it. I mean, I really love what she's doing. I still think she's a little rough around the edges. I kind of feel sorry for some of these guys.

I always think she's going to pull someone's arm out of their socket. Because sometimes you can tell some of them aren't ready for that move that she does, always right from the get-go. But, I mean, overall, I am excited for her next match in TLC, which I will be at that's going to be taking place at the Shark Tank. it sounds like California. I'm gonna be there. I'm way up in the nosebleeds, but I don't care. I'm gonna be in there. I just love it.

That's looking like a good card. And if they had, other than Crown Jew, which was fucking, that show sucked. Yeah. And they really shouldn't have gone there for politically. It just came up very scummy of them to have gone there, especially after what had happened in Saudi Arabia. But again,

they have no, one thing about WWU is that morals ain't their priority, you know, that's just the way they've always been. And so, but other than Crown Jew, I think they've been on a row pay-per-view-wise. I mean, I love Devolution. I love Survivor Series. And this card that you're going to go to TLC, it's looking like it's going to be a very good card, wrestling-wise.

I mean, they have a lot of good matches booked. And, you know, like I said, the storylines themselves are not the best right now, especially on Raw. But the matches. Oh, it's been boring and just been horrid. Because they have no identity right now. When Roman went down, they weren't ready for that. So they really don't have anybody to replace them. They don't know how to protect their good guys.

So what you're having is a bunch of just boring bad guy interviews right now. And that's just not, you know, it's just kind of boring right now. But from a work rate perspective, that car, the TLCs, it seems like it's going to be a very good show. Pedro, what are your thoughts on Nyad Jax? I think she's green. I think she got the Dwayne Johnson connection. her to get to the roster quicker than she should have. I think that that sucker punch that she gave Becky Lynch was unprofessional

because it wasn't even by accident if you see the video. She clocked her on purpose. And I think right now the WWE felt they had something with her because she's getting all that, you know, what we call heel heat, which is pretty much people upset at Naya for knocking out Becky who's, I'm going to ask you guys about the Becky phenomenon right now because she got over huge right now. Like right now she's like red hot. And the thing is, so I think WWV felt that Naya had some potential as a bad guy as a villain,

so they're going with it. And it's working because right now she's getting booed a lot or whatever, which is what you want if you're a bad guy. But yeah, so, I mean, yeah, she's a little green still, but, you know, she's got her cousins, Dwayne Johnson, so they're not going to do a lot to her as far as, like, you know, reprimanding her or punishing her. And what do you guys think of Becky Lynch? I love Becky

I think they lucked out by her getting hurt because I think her and Rhonda at WrestleMania will be a much bigger and better match than it is now. If they could keep the momentum because WWE tends to drop

the ball when you give them too much time to fuck things up. Yeah I think if they could get it. Go full deal that's what I think. Yeah, yeah but I think I don't know if the audience wants that right now, but if they But either way, if she fits with Becky Lynch, she is going to be the heel.

Because Becky Lynch is so popular right now. So she's regardless, she's going to be the heel. So that's just the way it's going to work out. Yeah, I think so as well. I mean, I love Becky Lynch. I've always loved her. And Andy Wise, NXT, and then finally get into when she was on Raw, now she's on SmackDown.

Smackdown is a better brand. But, yeah, she would have to be the heel. Ronda is so fresh right now. I mean, it would only be right. Because the way Becky was, especially with the before Survivor Series, when the Smackdown takeover or when all that melee went on, that would be the only way to do it.

I mean, to make it a good match. I wouldn't. So you're saying Ronda, the baby face and Becky the heel? Yeah. But the problem with that, But the problem with that is that the audience won't accept that. That's the only issue you're going to run into there. Because Becky's so popular right now that the audience ain't going to accept a storyline where she's got to be the heel.

They'll just boo Rhonda, which is what started to happen anyway. It started to happen when they were feuding before Survivor Series. So I don't think they're going to have a choice. I think Becky's going to have to be the baby face. And Rhonda is going to be the heel because the audience is going to dictate it. I mean, they booed Rhonda when she first came out. And she just kind of sucked it up. And then when we realized that she could do it, everybody was cheering.

But then, yeah, after all this stuff when Becky wasn't at Survivor Series when they started booing and they booed her at Survivor Series. Yes, they did, which was weird because that beat down was supposed to have the opposite effect because it was kind of like showing some, you know, she had balls, for lack of a better term, getting up after that beat down and all that. And you expect the fans to kind of be behind her, but instead they boot her. the shit out of her and that was weird. I mean, I felt bad for her.

I mean, I know she, those look like real tears of... Oh, yeah, yeah, she's a very emotional person. That's one thing with Rhonda that concerns me is that the reason why she ended up in the WWE was because she couldn't emotionally handle the two losses that she got at UFC. She just, she's just not that type of person. She breaks down very, very fast. And so, you know, what's going to happen when something doesn't go her way at WWE, she's going to take her ball and go home?

home, you know, like we don't know yet. So that's going to be interesting. Yeah, man, well, we'll see what happens. Oh, well, this is what I wanted to bring to your attention. What did you think of the crowd at Crown Jewel? I loved it. I thought they were really hyped. The pay-per-view was, yeah, whatever.

But I thought the Saudi Arabian people, man, the WWE universe over there. I thought they were just super high. I mean, everybody, I mean, not the people that were in their front because it kind of seemed like they didn't really care they were just there, but when the camera panned around for the walkway, all those kids and even the grown-ups were hyped. And when the camera went way to the back, I mean, everybody was super hyped in there. I mean, I thought this crowd was better than that first pay-per-view they had over there. What did you think of the crowd? No, I thought it was good. Again, they probably only get these kind of shows once or twice every, like, well, now they're going to get them more often because they got that deal with the WVB, but before, they wouldn't get them what like once every like 10 years or something like that so people were starving for that wbdh live show and and they they showed it you know and and um but i just don't know what type of crowd because in sada arabia they you know if if if you have political clout or whatever you're going to get the best seats and if you're just uh you know to use a wrestling term if you're just the gibroni you're going to be up there in the nose

beats and you know you're going to be you know what i'm saying so it's like what kind of Do they want to have a snobby crowd that doesn't really like the product being the front row or they want to have the hardcore? And I think it's more of a political question to ask. But, you know, I thought, yeah, like you said, there was part of the crowd there that was very, very, very much into it. And it made for a horrible show be bearable. That's as much as I'll say about that show. Damn, I forgot what I was going to say. Oh, other than John Cena and Daniel Bryan, was there any other wrestlers?

just didn't want to go over there that you know of? No, that's it. That was it. I mean, I know that behind the scenes, there was a lot of wrestlers that didn't want to go, but what are you going to say? You can't say anything. You know, your boss wants you to be there.

You're going to be there. So, and John Cena's a touchable. You know, he's got so much stroke in that company that they weren't going to do anything. And Daniel Bryan is like, you know, here's the guy that was going to leave the WWE to go wrestling in the Indies. So, like, money doesn't really motivate that.

guy. So he was like, fuck it. I don't want to go and I'm not going to go. Oh, you know, and that's it. So he didn't go. But everybody else kind of has to do what they're told. So they just do it. Yeah. I mean, that was that was what I thought. I mean, John Cena, I mean, he can't be touched. And we'll see what he's going to do in Bumblebee. Oh, and speaking of Bumblebee to change it really quick, they're doing those screenings tonight. And I lucked out and I got a ticket. So I'm going to go check it out tonight. Hopefully, my fingers are crossed that this will be the best one out of all the Transformers movies, because those last ones were just...

I don't think that's going to be very difficult to achieve. You know, you just got to be good, and you'll officially be the best one out of all the Transformers movies, man, because they all suck. You know, the only one that was kind of bearable... Okay, so Part 1 had that great reveal of Optimus Prime in the middle of the movie that I really... To this day, I love that reveal, but the movie itself is kind of like, eh, it's not that good. Part two is a complete another mess. I don't want the less and about it, the better.

Part three is all right because the heels there get a lot of screen time because I guess they figure that was going to be the last one. So all the heels kind of get their moment there, which I really appreciate, especially in the third act. And then part four, they did that reboot that was boring. The Marky Mark one, it was like, what the fuck is this? And part five, I think I fell asleep on it, and I've never really finished it.

And I was in the movie theater for that one. So what's it called? The Dark Night or whatever. fuck that one's calling. The last night. Yeah, exactly. So it's like, what? So this one's a prequel, and I hope they don't have that thing where every prequel

runs into where they kind of countered-day was already been established in the previous films. But we'll see what happens. I'm just hoping for this as a reboot of the whole thing. So, I don't know. We'll see. No, looks that way. We'll check out your, you're going to post your review afterwards?

I think I am. It'll probably just be me because it's not showing up where he lives. So it'll probably just me. It'll be more just nostalgic thing because we already know we're getting the old prime and we're getting sound wave and shock wave and kind of a star screen. But I don't know. We'll see. Just yeah, I'm sure once I sit down and do it, it will be hard not to spoil it, but I'm going to do my best. So that one opens on like in two weeks, right? Yeah. 21st, I think. All right, cool.

Well, damn. Nice. I'm proud of you, man. And now, let's go on to our featured attractions. This week, it's all about the snakes with anaconda, snakes on a plane, and... I guess. How long before that gets sold? I don't know.

I assume that's what that movie's called. Is that right? It's just like seven S's in a row is the title of this thing. Over the seas, it was called Snake. That makes more sense. The thing is, like, how do you go to the box office and ask for a ticket to this fucking movie? One ticket for S. All right, I'm a dumbass.

I was thinking that, too, when I first saw this as a kid, I didn't see it until it was on TV, but exactly. Even to this day, I would still think that, like, yeah, what do you say when you go to the box office? But I don't know. Awesome. I mean, I get into explain what it is before we get into it. No, like, before you get into, let me say, like, let's say you're a cranky old man. There's no fucking way you're going to go.

You're going to, you're going to be like, give you a ticket for SSS, all right? And like, like, if you're running the box office and you want to be a dick, you're going to be like, there isn't a movie called S-S-S-S. Try again. So it's like, there's going to be conflict there between the cranky old man who's not going to be, you know, is beneath him to go. So it's not going to be like, yes, motherfucker says S-S-S-S right there. No, that's nothing more of the movie, sir. So what the fuck? Like, all these fucking stories that came out of this movie probably all across the country. I'd never know.

I'd be to have that happen in front of me. And then we haven't even thought about the poor guy behind, though, cranky old man, who wants to see fucking the exorcist that's about to start in like two minutes, you know? Well, the director was Bernard L. Kowalski. It's from 1973, you guys. He's also known for Colombo and Raw Hyde. Huh. The writer was Hal Dressner, also known for the TV.

show MASH and Zorro, the Gayblade. Is that a real name? That is amazing. George Hamilton is Zorro. The Gay Blade. All right. Well, that answers my question about Zorro.

For some trivia, we've got all of the poisonous stakes featured in this were authentic, and the cast actually did have to interact with it. for filming. The only shot where Strother Martin grabs the king cobra's head during the show was a puppet snake used. When I saw the intro to that, I thought that was a gimmick. I thought they were throwing a Texas chainsaw massacre. It really happened. I know, right? But, yeah. So you're saying it was real,

legit? All of it was real, except when he grabs the king cobra's head during the show. What about when that jogs taking a shower, he throws that little, last garden snake into the thing and he bites his little toe and then steps all over and it just dies well first question have you guys seen this before or have you guys

even heard of this film this is no first watch yeah first watch for me too yeah I had never seen it before but it's kind of popular within the niche horror community for its cheesiness and stuff so I had heard about it I just had never seen it

because I came across this When I was a kid, our local channels always showed movies at night. And just the title itself, I was like, okay, what is this? I'm not that fascinated with snakes, like real snakes, like I don't touch them or anything. So I was like, all right, I'm going to give us a shot. I think what really got me into it during the little, quick little TV trailer, they show a freak show. And I've always been a fan of those growing up, going to carnivals. and fairs and yet they're so stupid and cheesy but i was always fascinated you see all these

awesome uh paintings uh like tapestry paintings on the outside of the tent uh see the spider woman and the and shark boy and stuff like that so i was really intrigued with those growing up as a kid and when i see that in this film oh come see the snake man i was like oh my god i need to watch this uh so i sit down there and i watch it i As a little kid, I mean, I love it. I still love it, but it was just so stupid and really cheesy. I think one of the other reasons I really got into it was Dirk Benedict. I was a huge Battlestar Galactica fan.

That was another draw to it. So I sit there and I sit down and watch me and my brother sit there and watch this movie, mainly to see the Snake Man that they mentioned in the commercial. So and when we finally see it it it creeped it creeped me out and it still creeps me out today It was actually a real Person that they just threw all the the snake get up on them I don't know what you call those people were with you know what I mean with no arms and no legs Yeah

Amputees Yeah they really used One in this film and Yeah I mean it was what it was I mean it was I mean it was cool that they did use real snakes and they do say that in the beginning of the film. We even get a young Steve Rogers, the original

Captain America. He was the big giant blonde bully jock guy. If you guys have ever seen that Captain America. Well, I see. Yeah, it's stupid but yeah, he was in it and it was cool and the other girl, the main girl in it,

I can't remember her name. I think she was I want to say Liesel and sound of music. I remember her and that. I mean, overall, I did enjoy this film. I'm the one that kind of brought this, brought attention to these three films we're going to be talking about tonight to Brian.

After you, I can't remember the last one we did. I remember Sleepwalkers and something else, but when we're thinking about doing these films or when you guys do these films, are they really that bad or whatever? So I was like, I don't know why, I don't know why snakes popped it. my head but after I thought of this one after I just said we got to do anaconda and we

got to do snakes on a plane because those are just the three awesome movies that I know everyone I know a lot of people hate them and they didn't like them when they came out and now and people still hate them today but there is there's a there's a fan base for everything and I think I'm I'm in I'm in the fan base for this film I mean I still love it I have it on Blu-ray. And it is what it is. I mean, I sat there and watch it. My wife and my daughter, like, I don't know how you can sit here and watch this shit.

But, I mean, that's them. I mean, I enjoy the movie. It's awesome. It's cheesy. I mean, I loved it. The special effects are crappy. But, I mean, that was the times. It was in the 70s, and that's what we got.

So I enjoyed this film. Pedro, what do you think? Yeah, no, I mean, it's, it's like a grind house, locky, you know, good time. I have a, I have a soft spot for the film. kind of films I have a huge collection of all these obscure kind of films like this one and yeah I completely agree like if you go in there knowing its charm it's gonna be you're gonna have a good time with it you know but if this is if these are the kind of films that you've never seen and all you have as a steady diet of like big Hollywood films this is gonna be completely foreign to you and it's

like what the fuck's going on here you know and you might not have a good time with it just because the budget wasn't there you know it was from the 70s it doesn't have the pacing that we might want. But no, I enjoy this film. I mean, Lord knows, we've seen a whole lot worse here on this show when I've been on here. So it was a big film, you know? Well, Brian? I don't know if I like this movie.

I don't know. Yeah, it has a lot of talking. There is a lot of, it's very dialogue heavy. Yeah, a lot of talking, not a lot going on. I didn't understand what, I don't know what was happening. happening in this movie, especially when you get to the end. That was his goal, was to turn people into snakes. Well, they were, the mad scientist guy.

He was telling the story that the world is coming to an end. And the only thing they're going to be alive or snakes, so he wanted to make this serum to make snake people. So we can all still be around. I don't know what being snakes is going to do if we all turned in to him, but that was his idea. That's what I liked about these movies. I mean, you got the mad scientist, like Dr. Frankenstein or something like that.

And it was like, it's, yeah, watching it this time, I haven't seen this movie in a while, but it was just like, okay, really? I mean, I knew what was going to happen in the film and I knew what he was doing. But as a 47-year-old grandpa watching this again, like, yeah, what would be in being a snake? have to do to continue to live in the world. I did think that once he did it, I was like, this was your end game?

And how did she know that was him at the end? As the snake. That's because she quote unquote love. She had feelings for him, you know? So here's a thing. Dr. Stoner, and I'm sure that there was a pun there somewhere

when they came up with this character because it was the 70s. Dr. Stoner is telling Dirk Benedict's character, all these things. And Benedict's character, he wants to be the assistant, right? But I'm thinking, like, if that's me listening to this fucking loon,

top, tell me all this shit, I'm running out. I'm not getting the fuck out of there. And this guy, David, I think his name is David Blake. He's just kicking back with him, like, listening to him. But it's like, you want to work for this guy, but he's obviously out of his mind, you know? And Dr. Stoner is very nonchalant about his story. Oh, yes.

You know, did you know that? that the serpent was actually the devil and it's like what the fuck's going on here like but uh yeah no i would have taken off but this guy david he decides to hang out and then he like passably he faints i've never seen like a plot twist come out like with with so little energy you know because that's a big moment in the film like like when when david blake faints and he and he gets hit with the with the with the poison for the first time that's kind of like a big moment in the film because that's when you know that dr stoner set him up but it's done with solo energy that it's like

oh you're feigning oh that's just the cigarette to keep like what the fuck and anyway so that's some wacky shit right there that's how that's when I question him even being his assistant because that didn't even take too long before he's just injecting him with shit

oh no it's inoculation so be fine he's so gullible you know the guy's so gullible how did you love the transformation from uh Starbuck into the snake at the end. Yeah, that was, that was, they needed a couple more, you know, they did some money in that movie.

You could tell right over. But it was fun. That part was fun to watch. I didn't mind the bad special effects. You know, like you said, it was 1973. Real quick, how come the other guy didn't change all the way? Maybe he was a failed experiment. Yeah.

Yeah, that's what I figured. And so they sold him to the circus. What about the Like his nightmare Like like he has these nightmares That are just like like like pieces of papers with like horrible drawings on him And they have like like one of a clown that's about to slap his ass You guys remember that one?

It's like a fucking like a clown with like his with like his pim hand ready to slap him And that's the one that always kind of wakes him up a little bit like what the fuck But um but yeah so that was kind of weird And then the daughter let's talk a little bit about like she's even more oblivious that fucking the Blake character because is she going against her father? Is she not going against her father? Like what's going on here?

And then she loves this Dick Benedict guy but like she doesn't tell him anything. It's just all fucking weird and grindhousy. She's incredibly naive. When they were talking about the other assistant, oh, he had his father was ill. But I thought

his father was dead. Oh, that's right. It was his uncle. And she's just going to go with it. Oh, okay. Yeah, I, I, hey, you guys ever seen Zootopia in that scene where the slots are the public service people at the DMV? Yeah, I feel like that is, is who wrote this movie because it was going so slow. Like, they spoke so slow. It took them fucking a full minute to deliver a goddamn line, you know?

Like, they could have ran this movie. movie in double time had it done with and an hour and I think it would have been great and they would have sounded almost normal but the way that they had it running it was like it was I felt like I was watching the movie in slow motion and I even questioned it a couple

of times especially when the daughter was talking she had some hair on her too this movie was in the 370s with that hair well seem like all of the all the girls had that same haircut. Yeah.

Farah Fawcett. Did Captain America really kill that snake? Well, I don't know. It wrapped around his hand. He might have squeezed it and broke that neck or something. That's all that I got out of that sick. Well, they definitely didn't say no snakes were harmed. And I'm pretty sure one of them was killed towards the end by that mongoose.

But yeah, it was the 70s, yeah. If an animal got booked for a movie, it might be his last movie. I mean, that's just the way it used to be back then. Yeah. But, you know, I did kind of enjoy the story. I just, man, I wish they'd have got to it a little faster. It was just really hard to watch them really slowly deliver every word. I'm like, can you just turn the fuck up?

that was that was my take on this one what do you guys uh think about scores i would have to go i would have to go uh a six i'll give it a six yeah yeah that's pretty good that's what i'm thinking i mean maybe maybe the uh the younger 70s nez would he gave it a 10 but uh yeah the 47 year old i'll give it a six I'm going to give it a four Damn Yeah

Yeah I don't know I mean I did enjoy the the creepy College professor I didn't enjoy him getting eaten by the python That was insane Yeah I'm gonna give it a

I'll give it a four to But that's being generous man I mean this was like a snake documentary And it kind of turned into a cool movie at the end they just took fucking forever to get there. Yeah, yeah. All right. So,

it sounds like a split down the middle, but a B-movie classic nonetheless, Grindhouse. Where did you guys watch this? Okay, that was part of my problem. I watched a shitty copy on YouTube. I had it as part of, I'm holding it right here,

as part of a... What? movie well I bought it because I wanted a phantasm two and it came with phantasm two and the fun house and the serpent and the rainbow so it's one of those four four movies for one price kind of deals that's where I had it that's DVD right yeah it's all DVD right here four movies that one cold horror collection and all the and all the other three movies are fucking awesome too which is the weirdest part you have the fun house

serpent in the rainbow and fat phantasm part two and then you have I wonder what happened there. Yeah, I had to search for this one. I had to go sailing the seas for this one. Yeah. It's not really readily, but it's not on Amazon. I checked. So, there you have it on.

Skip it. Skip it. Now on to Anaconda, directed by Luis Yosa, also known for the specialist and the sniper. Writers Hans Bauer, Jim Cash, and Jack Epps, Jr. John Malkovich, Sir John Connery, and Tommy Lee Jones turned down the role of Paul Sorone. Well, that's not super surprising, I suppose.

Jennifer Aniston Julianna Anderson and Juliana Margulese How do you say her last name? Margolis? I want to say Margolis. Margolis. We're considered for the role of Terry Flores.

Well, I think they did okay there. So what do you guys think about Anaconda? Kevin? I love this movie. I mean, I loved it. I don't love the late 90s CGI, but the actual practical effect of the giant Anaconda. I was watching this the other day.

My wife was sitting there. She didn't like it when she first saw it when it came on TV. And she goes, I don't know why you torture me with these stupid movies. But I loved it, man. I mean, it had other than John Voight, the only one that's a big name in it, but I assume this is, hey, man. I need money too, so let me just do this movie. I mean, this was early, early J-Lo, early Ice Cube, early Owen Wilson,

probably mid for Eric Stultz, Kari, I think, I just know her from MTV. And we got a quick Danny Trejillo in the beginning, minus the goatee. But I mean, for what? Was this voice dubbed over? I don't know. I wasn't really paying attention. For what it was, man, I enjoyed it. it was a good monster type of film.

And I just love when they do practical effects. I mean, especially for the big snake. For when they killed it at the end, when it was on fire, and when it was just moving around with the little bit of scenes crashing through everything. But, I mean, for what it was, man, I really enjoyed it. I remember seeing the trailer for it when it first came out, I'm going, oh, man, this looks stupid.

But I went because of Ice Cube and Jay Lowe. So I was like, all right, cool. Let's go see this. we get all these other stars in it as for me he was a bonus I mean and another thing was can Owen Wilson ever act differently he acts the same

in every single movie he's in you're right about that he does I mean he wasn't I love Eric Stoltz I've always loved him I mean even that awesome film he did as Rocky Dennis and Mask and other things as he's been in

but John yeah John Void was the one where I was like, man, this guy's Academy Award winner and you're doing this, but I mean, he's working. I mean, and that's what you do. So, yeah, I, I liked his character. I just didn't like the accent or whatever he was. He was using.

Tony Montana. It just bugged me. Yeah, yeah, he had like the cheesiest accent. He also had the cheesiest death, which I thought was like, he winks at her, and then he just dies. I kind of like that. that the snake just spits spits a matter

I like when the camera was like inside the anaconda and you see him getting sucked into his throat I thought that was that was an awesome scene another I mean I was

bashing the CGI but I do love this scene is when the snake is that anaconda is underwater and I can't remember who it swallowed it swallowed somebody but when the

the anaconda goes close to the camera and you can still see the guy inside the anaconda, and you can see the indentations of his eyes and his mouth. It looks stupid and cheesy, but I don't know, I've always loved that. I thought that was a cool little scene. But other than J-Lo, being all wet splashing around the water. It's amazing. Always a plus.

Yeah. I like this movie. I thought it was cool. Yes, it's stupid and cheesy. I want to say they made the... They made two of them, two other ones. Anaconda Yeah, Anaconda 2 and Anaconda 3

Who did they have in the last one? Was Anacondas part 2? Yes, yes, and that one got a theatrical, but the third one was like direct-to-video. Yeah, the third one was like a direct-video, and then Anacondas did get... Yeah, you're right, it was the last one that went theatrical. Yeah, the second was the hunt for the blood orchid,

and the third one was the officer. spring with David Hasselhoff. Can't go wrong with it off. This is like what started Sharknato. I mean, no, I mean, yeah, this one's a little more serious. There's no Sharknado here. Yeah, it's actually, we're supposed to take it,

you know, it's not self-referential. It's, it's actually a serious film. And it's got some, it's got some good little jumpscares, I thought. And it's got some good little camera tricks. I mean, I really like this film. And I don't think it has the bad rap that we think it has. I think this is a beloved movie by a lot of people. And this is right smack in the middle of the, of like the, there was like a resurgence of like a monster craze during this time.

Because this one, we also had like Deep Rising. And Deep Blue Sea came out a little later, I believe, but not by much. And so we had all these kind of like, you know, reptile. and we also had Lake Placid as well. So we had all these films about, you know, sea monsters and, you know, sea creatures and stuff like that. So, yeah, it was just part of it. And I thought the cast was incredible. I think we didn't give enough credit to the cast here because they were all kind of,

I wouldn't say they're prime, but they were all pretty well known. And it was kind of like an all-star cast at the time. And like, like Carrey War, I remember her from the Skinny Max movies, because she did a lot of the old Skinny Mac films. And then she also, after, she had like a back-to-back because she did this one. No, she did thinner. She was in thinner first.

She was one of the gypsies in thinner. And then she did this one. And yeah, I always liked her. She was always A-plus with me. And then you had like Owen Wilson, like fresh off of bottle rocket, which kind of, you know, put them in the stratosphere. So, yeah, so, I mean, no, this was an incredible cast. And, I mean, Jelo was like in her prime at this point.

as far as popularity, you know, maybe, maybe like a couple years before her prime, but she was getting there. And I thought I thought the kills were very inventive. I think when, I think it's Jonathan Hyde's character when he died. He's the one that dies off of the waterfall, right? Yeah. Yeah, that was a great kill. I love that one. And yeah, just, just, it was, it's a good film, man.

It's one of those, again, we go back to what I said earlier about annihilation. It's one of those films where you have a group of people that, don't know what's coming to them and they go into a situation and they don't come back out and that's one of the tropes this film uses and I loved it. Well, Brian, what did you think? I kind of have a soft spot

for this movie. I've probably out of all the three movies we're going to talk about, I've probably seen this the most. I don't know if it's because of Jennifer Lopez, but you know, that's a big part of it. Ice Cube's, you know, Owen Wilson. I thought

it was strange that watching it now, like he doesn't say shit for the first half of this movie. He's just background. And, yeah, I just couldn't get over John Voight's accent in this. It was weird. I didn't know what he was doing. But all that aside, I really, really enjoyed this movie. It's still fun watch for me.

Even though, you know, the CGI is not the greatest, but I do like some of the kills. you know, I like how they established like the Anaconda's a badass when you first see it because doesn't it eat like a Black Panther or something? Like off top early in the movie? Did it?

I thought it just ate Danny Trail. There's a scene in there where I think it comes up against a Black Panther before it even meets them on the boat. So, you know, but But just sitting in Danny Trail to me that tells me he is a badass. That's all you need to show me.

Eat Danny Trejo and you're a badass. Because in a lot of ways, Danny Trejo is a badass himself. So you can't him and you're really a badass. He's taken on the badassness. He didn't get to eat him. Did he? Danny Trell shot himself?

Oh, yeah, that's right. He did. He was a badass. He's not going to be... He's not going to be it in a life, man. He'll take himself out. Only he can destroy himself. But yeah, with all the cheesy bad CGI and all like that, it's still a fun watch for me.

I still revisit it when I can. You know, if it's if it's on, then I watch it. So it's still a fun movie for me. Yeah. I agree, man. It's kind of great. It's cheesy and it's stupid. But it does take itself seriously.

And it is stars studded as hell. And it's super entertaining. There's not really any really lagging moments in this movie. I've seen it oh god, at least six or seven times you know, every time it comes on TV

or, you know, I just come across it or whatever if I'm looking for something to watch and Anaconda pops up. That's a good fun one to watch where I can look at my wife and go, oh look, Anaconda, let's watch this. And yeah, man, I've seen it at least a few times in the past couple of years.

Um, I really enjoyed it. And J-Lo is super hot. Ice Cube's a badass. Owen Wilson is there. What's not to love? What do you guys think about scores? I want to go with a seven, like a seven, I think. That's a, I think that's a good score.

Yeah. Not bad. Ness, what do you think? I'd go eight. Eight? There you go. Damn. I'm going to meet you guys in the middle.

I'm going to give it that extra half for J-Lo, so seven and a half. Yeah. See, and I'm going to give it the whole extra point. It goes eight for me because it's just really fun to watch. It's maybe it's not the best movie in the world, but just shut your brain off and watch the damn movie. It's fun. Yeah, but we have room for these type of films. They don't all have to be, you know, Academy Award nominated, you know, classics.

There's room for these kind of films. And if they're done right, then they're going to be good and there's going to be a fun time. And I think this one was done right. So, yeah, definitely recommended. If you haven't seen it, check it out. Because the story itself, like the CGI might be kind of laughable now, but the story itself still holds up. We still see films with these kind of tropes released, you know, to this day. So, you know, you're going to be entertained by the story.

There's nothing that's outdated or, you know, it's a good little story. And again, just have a little patience and understanding for the CGI. and if you do you're going to have a good time so I recommend it all right well the next one I think tried to hit the same vein with snakes on a plane trivia director former director's former stuntman David R Ellis also known for cellular and shark night 3D

tragically on January 7th 2014 Ellis's body was found in his host in his host in his hotel bathroom in South Africa. No cause of death was released, but I'm sure we can all speculate. Well, there you have it. Writers John Heffernan

and Sebastian Gutierrez and David Delsandro. 450 snakes were used, including 122-foot-long Burmese Python. Not an anaconda, however.

Samuel L. Jackson's agent insisted that the title be changed because Jackson couldn't work on a film with such a title. When Jackson heard about all of this, he responded with the much-sided comment. We're totally changing that back. The only reason I took the job is I read the title.

What did you guys think about snakes on a plane? I love this movie. I mean, this movie was fucking awesome. I mean, when I first heard of it, I thought it was fake. I was like, this sounds stupid. And then when I found out who was in it,

they said, yeah, Samuel L. Jackson's in this. I was like, what? No, this is fake. And I was like, okay, whatever. I mean, the trout, and I was still like, not really into it. What got me hyped was Comic Con, I believe it was 2006, I think.

They had an actual fuselage in the exhibit hall that you can walk in And then they had the rubber snakes hanging. And they had the flight attendants ushering you through it. And they were selling the T-shirts and everything. So I was like, oh, man, they're really going for it with this movie. Next day, we go to the panel. And Sam Jackson's talking about all the fun he had making this film.

He goes, he even said, yeah, it's stupid, but it's a fun ride. So I'm like, all right, cool. And I'm a huge Kenan and Kel fan, Keenan Thompson. So I was like, oh, sweet, he's in this. So the little bits of the if you've been to Comic-Con, they always show you during the panel, they show you just scenes from the film. And I was like, whoa, I mean, they're really hyping this.

I can't remember what company put it out, but they were like just, they were outside advertising, inside, everybody walking around with snakes on the plane T-shirts. And I was like, oh, cool. So when the movie finally came out, I go in and sit down and see it. Nobody is in there.

but me and maybe a couple other guys that first day it came out and I was just it was just a good time and it was funny I loved how they just it was trying to be serious with what was going on in it

and I think this would be a fun movie to make when you're pretending that all these CGI snakes are coming at you and I don't know what they do maybe they have just rubber ones hanging there and they're CGI in the rest but the kills I thought were awesome

I think my favorite one was the when the guy and the chicker in the bathroom and they were trying to well I guess they already did join the mile high club in the process of it it gets a fucking bice that girl's nipple and

fucking I don't know maybe it was just it was a fun movie I liked all the kills and even the practical effects of the snake bikes like the one that really kind of creep me out was the little kid that got bitten in the arm when they had to cut him open and get all the pus and venom out.

I thought that was cool. I mean, but overall, man, I mean, you read the title, snakes on a plane and you think, how stupid is this going to be? Yes, it is stupid, but I love these type of dumb movies. I mean, then after that,

we get snakes on a train, and we get snake out of Compton and all kinds of other crazy ones that are out there after this. I mean, this type of film opened the door for all these Indian filmmakers to make. all these other crazy snake films.

I mean, they really went for it after this film. But, I mean, overall, the production was there, and they had the cast and everybody. I mean, everybody was pretty much did what they were supposed to do in this film. I did like the story of why those snakes were on the plane, because my wife said she wasn't really paying attention to it. She was like, why is there so many deadly snakes on the plane? And then, but there was a reason for it.

It wasn't just they were there. And overall, man, like I said, man, I really enjoyed this film. It's goofy, it's campy, it's cheesy, it's stupid. And I enjoy it, man. I love this movie. Yeah. Plus, I can't imagine that sneaking, you know, a hundred deadly snakes on a plane is any easier than sneaking a bomb onto a plane.

But we're talking about a Bond villain here. But they were in cahoots with the guys that work, that load the plane. I am one of those guys that load planes. God. So, yeah, I mean, I'm sure whoever this big crime boss was paid whoever, here, all we're going to do is we're going to sneak all these snakes in. I'm going to give you a few thousand, and that's it. So that's how easy it is.

I don't know how easy it is to get these deadly snakes, but I don't think about it too much. Just enjoy the ride. Yeah. It's called snakes on a plane. It was definitely a roundabout way of trying to take out a witness, you know, that's going to testify against you because you could sit there

and come up with like maybe a 10 easier ways to get rid of this witness. At least. But for the very reason that they had to be snakes on the motherfucking plane, as Samuel L. Jackson famously said, I've had it. So the thing that I remember about this film was that it proved a correlation that was erroneous because this was when the internet was kind of in its infancy, not so much as it was, it wasn't as big as it is now, that's for sure.

And this film had so much buzz going into it. Like the internet was going crazy with this film and it did shit at the box office. So at that time, the conclusion was that the fan base on the internet is a vocal minority, but it don't mean shit to the bottom line. And this was one of the first films that proved that. So that's one of the things that stands out to me when I think about this film. Because, man, the hype for it on the internet was huge. And everybody thought it was going to make all this money and success and everything.

And it opened up to like $15 million. And everybody was like, what the fuck? And so that was a big lesson there. It's like, no, there's still the casual audience. And then you have your hardcore. You don't want to rely on your hard course because they're always going to be there no matter what. You want to catch the casual audience. and this film wasn't able to do that.

And I think because of its kind of like outrageous premise, that's the reason why I didn't connect with the general audience. And, you know, we've had that again through the years with other films, but this was kind of the first one that I remember that had that kind of effect. And yeah, I like this movie. I mean, it's got that cheesy kind of like diehard on a plane vibe to it. It's a very entertaining film. So I would definitely, and then you have like Juliana Margulis, who was like her peak as far as ER fame and shit or a little past her peak, I think.

But yeah, I know, and then you have the great Bobby Khan evolved before he was kind of, now he's kind of blown up lately over the last, you know, five or six years. But at that time, it was kind of like an unknown. So I always like when they have all these guys that kind of blow up later on that you see in their first films. And so, yeah, I definitely give this a passing grant. I recommend if you haven't seen it. It's a good little film. Yeah. Great cast.

Can't forget about gay Tom Brady as a flight of dinner. Yeah, he was great. Yeah, man, I really love this one too. Would I have loved it if Samuel O. Jackson hadn't been in it? Probably not. Yeah, he brings a lot to this film. It's pretty much him or, you know, Bustor, or Jackson or Bucson or Bucson. with this film. I saw I got to say it about that.

Yeah. He makes the movie. And it's fun to watch just to wait for him to hear that classic line at the end of it. I'm tired of these motherfucking snakes on this motherfucking plane.

But yeah, great. I enjoyed myself the whole way through. It was dumb. But I enjoyed myself. Brian, what you think? Nez, you said you're Keenan Thompson fan? Yeah. him and fucking Flex Alexander

It almost ruined this movie when I first watched this I am not a Keenan Thompson fan Flex Alexander is a he's a horrible comedian I don't know if you guys this is going way back in the 90s you guys remember he had a show called Homeboys in outer space Yeah yeah I didn't care for him either But rewatching it now there's some there's a few people in here that was like in the beginnings of their career like Taylor Kitch you mentioned the scene where he's with the girl in the bathroom

a lot of people know him you know they Hollywood tried to shove him down her throat with like battleship and uh john carter yeah and uh the lady with the baby that that's um thor's wife uh chris hemisworth and uh she's uh what is the fast and furious movies yeah yeah the i know she is else is something right I forget her name yeah you gotta start somewhere that's what my wife told me yeah

yeah my wife was like hey she's married to Thor oh wow yeah but I agree with you guys if Sam Jackson's not in this movie it's not the same and I still enjoy this movie

every time I watch it this is another one this is kind of right there with Anaconda if it comes on TV then I'm watching it I thought all the snake kills

were, especially that whole scene where it's just outright chaos through the boat, or not boat, I'm sorry, I'm thinking of the plane. Everybody's getting bit. I thought that was fantastic. I love when that fucking one guy got ate by the python, the one who threw that chick's dog.

You're a fucking asshole. And I love that you didn't have to wait long for it because he's sitting there just like, it's a fucking dog as the python's coming up behind him. well and it was a totally unnecessary sacrifice yeah he's like here eat this um i even like david uh david keckner is that his name yeah the packard man from the office yeah i loved him as a pilot champ kind from anchorman that's right and he had a great death in uh one of the final

destination movies too he wasn't he wasn't one of those But yeah, overall, this is a fun watch. I recommend this also. Double feature, you know, Anaconda snakes on the plane can't... That would be a good double feature, you're right. Yeah. I can't recommend the first one, though. It was definitely a fun week, even with...

Is this one available anywhere to stream, like Netflix or Amazon or anything like that? It was on Hulu, but now it's not. yeah I own it so oh okay I watched it on Amazon I can't remember if I paid for it or not all right because I wanted to watch it tonight again but

as far as the score I'm going to give it in a I'm not not quite 10 I'd probably give it an 8 and a half let me just okay the fun of it

the fun I had yeah that's a good score man yeah I mean like I said I really enjoy this film but Um, sorry to tell you guys, I need to, I need to get out of here. I got to finish up and then, uh, head to the theater.

But, uh, guys, it's always awesome to come on here. I love you guys. It's fun. Pedro, cool to, all right, to do and talk wrestling. Um, next time I'm down in L.A. I always go down there to visit my brother to me. I mean, uh, we should hook up and, uh, yeah, just send me a message and we'll, yeah, we'll definitely do that. Cool.

All right, man. Uh, all right, guys. I got, I got a roll. All right. All right. Appreciate, Kiff. Thanks, man. All right. Pedro, which score?

Same thing, I would have to go with a seven, which is good. You know, it's a good time. Like, it doesn't reinvent the wheel by any means. But if you've never seen this film, you're going to have a good time watching it because there's a lot of action and, you know, some good comedic moments. And even though it's a little self-aware, it still doesn't take itself too, like, there's some seriousness to it, you know? I think people have this.

understanding that this is one of those like comedy like films that are self-aware, you know, that are just making fun of it. It's not like that at all. It's not straight up Sharkner, No, no, it's not. I think people think that because of the name and they kind of just get turned off by it. This is an actual action movie with like a story and, you know, shit like that. So, people should definitely check it out. Yeah, I definitely agree with everything you just said, Pedro, so I'm also going to give it a seven. Well, I am right there with you.

I think it was definitely worth the watch. Samuel L. Jackson alone makes it worth the seven. You could take Samuel L. Jackson out of Pulp Fiction, and Pulp Fiction would still be amazing. You cannot take Samuel L. Jackson out of this movie. He is what makes it, and it's worth watching because of that. It'll be a good time. Go check it out.

Snakes on a motherfucking plane. And that's it for the horror returns this week. Thank you for listening to another episode. Um, again, check us out at the email, leave us review on iTunes, check us out on Facebook, and let us know what you think about the format for the new show, guys. Um, next week, uh, baby it's cold outside to get, uh, controversial. Um, as we present our annual Christmas theme show. And, uh, we're joined by special guest Paul Stevenson, uh, from the Who Will Survive podcast.

So, until the whore returns again, Brian, good night.