The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #136: Cube (1997) & Escape Room (2019) (Reupload)

Episode Date: December 26, 2025

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This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. all right and welcome back everybody to the whole returns i'm lance and with me as always my co-host uh brian and philip uh philip i know how it's going for you and you let you lead off cool of the week what's up with you brian you guys getting some some warmer weather hell no it's negative whatever degrees i told you before we started to record and it's like negative three or some

bullshit yow what a difference stand away from outside come on Phil you're dying to cut loose man but I gotta go Cowboys is gonna be my main one we are recording this directly after the Cowboys playoff win

which is what I predicted I think that they would squeak by I think that they will dominate the Saints next week and then well but here's where the problem lies once they dominate the saints

everybody's going to pick them to win. Their back's not going to be against the wall anymore because everybody's going to pick them to lose next week. Yeah, you're assuming a lot, man. Yeah, I know. But their backs are going to be against the wall after the Saints win. I'm just telling you what's going to happen, man.

I'm telling you, I'm seeing it. And then they're going to fall apart in the NFC championship game. Oh, no. Which is going to suck. No, come on. Hopefully they'll get there. but we'll see what happens. I do have another couple of cool of the weeks

while I've got the microphone. It's mine, bitches. I'm going to let you finish. Yeah, pledge, pledge, pledge. Oh, yeah. We did the interview with the guys from Pledge, Aaron, and Zachary. There you go, with an E. Zachary Bird and Aaron Dalla Billa.

How do you forget a Zachary with an E, man? I know, right? So watch Pledge with those guys in it, and it was great. I loved it. I loved the ending. I loved everything about it. Dude, IFC Midnight has got some shit coming out, man. It's some really good stuff.

Go check this one out on demand. It's totally worth it, 100%. It's a fast watch, too. It's like under an hour and 20 minutes. Is it? Is it? Yeah, it goes by kind of fast. Yeah.

I felt like it was pretty quick. And it's a bunch of guys you've never seen before, but they're all really great. The acting was really good. I was super impressed with this movie. My other Cool of the Week was you guys Cool the Week last week, Bander Snatch. How fucking awesome of a mind fuck was that?

like it was great i had to watch it probably two or three times i went back and tried every different little detail it's like an adventure game it's fun choose your own adventure it's like five different endings is there five uh from what i was told there's five possibly more oh wow so i feel like the only one that i didn't get um i looked it up a little bit the only one that i didn't get is the one that's really hard to get, and you have to choose a certain option twice. Interesting. Yeah, they're supposed to be like

a hidden ending or something. Yeah, that's the one I didn't I didn't do my due diligence on. Aside from that, though, man, what a great idea for a movie. This was innovative and crazy, and I loved

every second of it. Like, it's very black mirror. It's very trippy. especially once you get into it. It's great. I think it's the next level of movies. Bander snatch. Yeah.

And go Cowboys. God damn it. All right. We knew you were going to go there. So we just sat back and let it happen, right, Brian? Yeah, yeah. I've had a couple of years, by the way, in case you couldn't tell. we don't want we don't want certain people here in this one

maybe i will do some cutting room floor shit um yeah pledge was going to be my uh one of my cools of the week excellent movie yeah i got to check it out monday yeah and philip's right you know it's not anybody you recognize in the movie really but they all did really good and uh yeah i'm fuck pledging to anything

if that's what goes on I'm not with all that well I don't know if I would chalk that up to things that happen normally I mean you never know you never know well true it was definitely crazy though

yeah yeah and my other cool of the week is I'm still trying to catch up on some movies I missed from last year I checked out this movie called incident in a ghostland I've seen it

pop up on a couple people's like top 10 lists I wouldn't say it would have been in my top 10 but it definitely would have been an honorable mention it's essentially like it starts out as like a home invasion movie and

I'm not going to give it away something happens in the movie that I didn't see coming and it really it really impressed me and it was it was shot pretty well. The acting was pretty good in it. And definitely, I think it would have been an honorable

mention. So I do recommend people check that out. Wow. Is it streaming anywhere? I don't think it's, well, I watched it by other means. So I don't think the stream. To look it up. Yeah. Incident in a ghost land? Yes.

Cool. And my not cool of the week is the fucking Titans. Again. The Titans? Or not the Titans, I'm sorry. I'm reading something now. How quickly you forget. The Texans, I'm sorry. The Texans.

Fucking Texans. Yeah, that was ugly. Great fucking season. Horrible showing in the playoffs. Yeah, that was embarrassing. Very embarrassing. But, you know, you see that every year with him, so you shouldn't be too surprised, Brian. Yeah, but a shout out to E-Society over there.

my Rockets whipped up on your Warriors so I just wanted to put that out there Get some Rockets finally turning up the heat man James Harden That's about time That guy's been on fire the last couple years Yeah he's a one-man show

But my fear is I know we've been given some Kind of down predictions But it seems like every year We go to the playoffs Hardin just seems to disappear yeah well they don't fall penalties quite as hard yeah but he he's been like that since uh since college

yeah well he's bad about flopping too yeah somebody told me he he's he's often disappeared going back to like high school and shit like that oh wow he seems to not totally be there for i don't know if it's the pressure but got to get over that shit no kidding but you're in a big time that's all i got this week all right well yeah i checked a lot a lot of movies out i'm starting to watch the uh like movies

that are golden globe nominees and most likely to be oscar nominees and stuff like that this is that time of the year for me and um i usually don't like the biographical movies that much but uh have you guys seen first man no uh ryan gosser yeah no i haven't checked it out not yet it's uh it's it's damn good man is it yeah it's real good i i know i know i the acting was going to be great but the um it's like a two and a half hour it's one of those that's a two and a half hour and a half movie that feels like an like an hour and a half movie because everything moves so quickly it's not it's not boring i was afraid it's going to be kind of boring but it's like there's always something going on and uh pretty historically

accurate because i looked a lot of the the incidents up and they happened just like that they did the movie so uh yeah in really good photography there at the end when you're on the moon maybe Kubrick isn't really dead and he did it again like you fake the moon landing right maybe yeah look listen of all the conspiracy theories that one is is is pretty tempting yeah want you hear all the shit nobody's been up there in a while have they i'm telling you why not didn't china just go up there that's where i just read something well they put a a spaceship on the dark side of the moon but i don't know if they I don't think they sent...

I don't think it was a manned flight. Ah, okay. But, uh, eh, still makes you wonder, doesn't it? Yeah. No, that's horseshit. We were really there. Fuck, dude, we're prepared to go to Mars now.

Damn it. I know, right? Moon is nothing. Pretty sure we can make it to the moon. Oh, you know what, though? That was so cool about it. I wasn't expecting to see, uh, all the, all the supporting actors that were in it.

Um, you're, Brian, your guy, Jason Clark plays a big role. Kyle Chandler is in it. Corey Stole, if you guys know him as his Ant Man's enemy in the first movie. You guys remember? Oh, okay. Yeah, yeah.

That guy seemed pretty mean. Porn Stash is in it, Pablo Schrever. Ethan Embry, a friend of the show, Ethan Embry is in. Hey, it's an all-star cast, man. Wasn't a Clarifoy in it? Yeah, of course, man. That's probably the main reason I wanted to see it. and yeah

I'm thinking this might be her nomination we'll see I mean there's a lot of competition this year for actress but I think maybe she might be nominated for supporting but yeah everybody did their part

is a real fun movie yeah I heard they had some controversy about not planting the flag in the movie I didn't really now that you mentioned I don't remember them showing it what was that all now

I think it's because they didn't and I think some people were upset about that. But, you know, people get upset about stupid shit now. Yeah, we're going to. Definitely, well, I'll put it to this way. It didn't take me out of the movie. That's good. So, uh, all right, Brian, do you get some headlines for us?

I'm not mad at what they're doing so far with, uh, with the Walking Dead. I, I'm definitely not caught up with the fear of Walking Dead, but we'll, uh, we'll see how that one goes. And the only other thing I got here, Lance, we had the remake to Jacob's Ladder on the schedule. Yes. That has been pushed back indefinitely. Oh, that's a good thing. I wasn't expecting much. I loved the first one so much.

I was afraid that they were going to kind of. It's not one of those I was eager to see a remake of. Yeah. No official release date. It just says 2019. so pull that off the schedule and yeah

that's it all right well Philip you ready uh yeah we're going to the the trailer park hey the Cowboys 1 baby

what else do you expect us to do fucking hey all right let's go party of the trailer part that's where the best parties are that's where the Crystal Memphis All right Kingdom

New, a Korean zombie show that's coming to Netflix. I am not going to run through these names, because I'm not going to butcher any of them. What's the point? What did you guys think of Kingdom? Not super impressed. What is it, like a zombie movie? Yeah. But it's a series, right?

Yeah, it's a series. Yeah, it looks very walking deadish. Hmm. I know, uh, Mark is. Marcus Wiltern posted the trailer on our Facebook group and he was a pretty pumped for it Yeah

So I mean I'll give it a try It's gonna be on Netflix I'm not mad at They've been uh They've been uh kind of hitting it out the park for me lately Yeah they have But how are they going to call it kingdom

When there's already a show on call kingdom I think because the other one's called the kingdom So I no no no there's there's definitely a show just ask Eddie from formerly from Cali, he'll tell you there's a fucking TV show. If you listen to the newscasts at all.

This guy talks about it every fucking time he calls. Frank Grillo, man. Oh, the MMA one? Yes. Oh. Oh, maybe it's going to be a crossover like the Walking Dead and Fear the Walking Dead.

Frank Grillo is going to be a Korean zombie. Oh, he shows up in the show. I'm all in. It does look very uh... Uh... Uh, damn it, what was that Korean zombie movie that we watched?

Uh, uh, train to Busan. Very trained to Busan. Yeah, like, based with the Walking Dead. I'm a little excited about this one. I think it looks good. Yeah, the synopsis says The Crown Prince is sent on a suicide mission

to investigate a mysterious outbreak. The Crown Prince, huh? Well, Brian, I'll let you tell me if it's any good, and if you say it is, I'll check it out. All right, January 25th, so not too far away. And our final trailer will be the Amityville Murders. Now, this is starring John Robinson, Chelsea Ricketts. Who is that? I have no idea.

I have no idea. directed by Daniel Farans what did you guys think now this is I'm out it's got nothing to do with the Amniville horror this is about the

what was it the Defeo murders yeah that yeah didn't need this didn't need to be made you just watched the first 10 minutes

of the Conjuring 2 and you got the whole story yeah I guess that makes sense you know what do you it didn't grab me like there was nothing really interesting at all that happened in this preview i'm not excited about it at all it was a slow it was a slow week i mean we could have

went with uh what is that movie uh the the trailer just came out the the haunting of sharon tate with uh what the fuck is her name Sharon, like, Hillary Duff is playing, yeah, Hillary Duff was playing Sharon Tate in this movie. Okay. So. I like Hillary Duff. I'll watch a Manson movie that sounds delicious. Wow.

All right, it sounds like everybody go check out the haunting with Sharon Tate and not the Amityville murders. Same director, dude. I'm looking at it's the same fucking that Daniel Faronz. as as the as the as the as the as the as the movie we just watched or the uh trailer we just watched yeah really he's got two movies coming out at the same time how much time does this guy have oh yeah yeah wow what are the chances that they both suck um pretty good i think after hearing this podcast our chances of getting an interview with Daniel Farns are zero.

You set them up, Brian, and I fuck him up, huh? Well, if anybody wants to check out the Amnanyville murders February 8th, 2019. Have fun. And just for information,

I believe, nope, no release date yet for the haunting of Sharon Tate. Well, they got to compete with Quentin Tarantino in his Mason movie. Oh, no. Well, then they need to drop it now, then.

Probably would be a good idea. Yes. Oh, man. Hey, a little bit of good news. We got a trailer we can't talk about yet, but it's in the inbox in our email. Oh, yeah. Brian, you gave me the heads up on that one, man.

Did you check it out? Not yet. I wanted to see if you guys checked it out, but I guess we'll, We'll talk about it next week. Yeah, he asked us not to say anything yet. But it's there. I checked it out.

I feel kind of special. I haven't checked it out yet. I need to look at it. All right. I'm going to feel special, too. We will definitely talk about it next week because I believe in a couple days, it's officially being released. So we got a little sneak peek. Cool.

All right, well, shoot. Slow weekend trailer. slow week on news. Let's hope it's not a slow week on feedback, Phil. What was the worst movie of the year? For you guys. Y'all heard what it was for us. So far, truth of there is in the lead, followed by Slender Man,

which I disagree with, but not by much. Right. Willis Wheeler says Birdbox. What? What? The fuck is he talking about? Birdbox. Oh, we'll talk about Birdbox.

on the next stream queens because I have some comments about that movie. Oh, do you? You agree with Willis? Not that it wouldn't. No, I liked it. I just, I don't think it, I don't know,

maybe I just heard too much hype about it. Probably. But I would never throw it on no top, top bottom list, definitely. Well, it's not a bad movie, though. Yeah. I maybe, I maybe wasn't 100% sold on the end of it, I think that maybe

they should have gone in a different direction with that. But it was okay. It was still an ending that sort of made you think a little bit, and I like that. But it has gotten blown completely out of proportion, and I can see why people are turning on it now.

Can I say one thing about the movie? Just one small thing. Sarah Paulson was completely underused in that movie. Oh, of course. She was only in it for fucking 10 minutes. Was it 10 minutes? If that. She had a couple lines, and then that was it.

Yeah. Well, she's real busy doing American Horror Story, you know? She hasn't missed a season yet, so. I always go back to Stephen Seagall in Air Force One. I hope they use her well in glass. Oh, I think they will. She seems like a main character in that one. Seems to be.

That's one I'm really excited for. Um, okay. So, uh, Don and Ellie says, other mama's spirit. An incompetent and barely their horror feature found on Tubi, uh, DUBI. Truly abysmal and outright, outright terrible effort that proves having access to releases every feature out there isn't always beneficial. Uh, so yeah, it sounds like Donnelli has seen, uh, a few more movies than he's needed to. The fuck is a shit This says

I don't care what anyone says Dark Webb was good What? Kevin Ness said dark web was good He's got to be fucking out of it No I don't think he is I'm telling you man I can never figure him out Every movie that he sees It's like the ones that he says

Are trash I'm like really? Man I kind of like that one And he's like oh it's hella good And I'm like That movie sucked Eddie Ramirez says Not the worst but dishonorable mention Den of Thieves

I still haven't watched that movie You ain't missing too much It's pretty silly Patrick says he didn't see any of those Good and smart man Something to be sad about that Gene Turner says I didn't see any of those either

because I heard nothing good about any of them Again. No, this is going to. Hey, Gene Turner is going to be our ayahuasca cowboy, guys. Yeah. Oh, shit. Signed me up, dude. You had catch any of that messaging going on today, Brian?

In the Saddle-up group. Yeah, that's some ayahuasca. That's no joke. Yeah? From what I heard. From what I heard. Oh, let's go on an ayahuasca chip. We should all do it.

together and record it. Well, we're going to be at Fright, man. I don't think that'd be the right environment. Maybe not. We can see it. Fucking Jason is outside the door.

Maybe we'll watch a screening of Mama's spirit and try it then. Yeah. We'll fuck it. We'll try it sometime. Also, with 2018 coming to a close, what was your favorite movie of the year?

So far, Halloween and Hereditary are tied for the lead. Dona Nelly says, I've only seen four of these. Oh, man, I didn't look at the list. And one would make my list, so I really can't answer this one yet. Tim Davis says, searching. Yeah, that wasn't too bad. Yeah? I don't know if it was my favorite.

No, but I mean, it was a lot better than I thought it was going to be. Yeah, it was surprising. uh joe beale says uh ready player one that's uh that's your jam yeah that's a good movie um samantha bean says uh i assume it has to be from 2018 yeah uh and then she doesn't give an answer who where she's gonna samantha come on you're killing us well we're gonna go with hereditary uh for samantha just okay guess that's that's my pick and she doesn't have an answer on here. That's what we're going to assume for now. All right, Samantha, chime in. We'll read it out next week.

Regarding Stranger Things, season three, Belinda Dean says, ugh. I thought it was coming out in March. I'm so crushed. This is baloney. Balonia. You miss one thing she put in there.

She put MF. Well, I was, I was going to say it, and I was like, is that an MF for me? Like, motherfucking? Motherfucker, I thought it was coming out in March. I didn't know what it was. So we'll go with that. Either way, baloney.

Belinda says baloney. Yeah, I can deal with, uh, when is it coming out? Uh, I think, fourth. Yeah. I. Yeah, I can deal with that. It's just a couple months different from March. It is what it is, right?

Mel says, if y'all listen to our best and worst of 2018 episode, you probably heard me talk about this video. This video is pure greatness and one that we most definitely don't deserve, but the good Lord and BuzzFeed blessed us with anyway. We all do you want to carry over with us into the New Year's, and it doesn't get much better than this. I present you Michael B. Jordan and puppies. God blessed us with this.

We are not worthy. Hey, aye, yay. And, of course, Ness shared the video as well. Nass? Did he call it hella good? Well, listen, to be fair, though, Michael B. Jordan and Puppies, I can't really argue with that either. Regarding Lee Majors coming to Texas Frightmare

Patrick Glear says Very excited about this I'm pretty sure the $6 million man was my favorite TV show as a kid Patrick's coming right Yeah he's in he was talking to me today about the playoffs His chiefs are going to be fighting tomorrow Oh that's right Denny Louis says it's the turnip in khakis

Lee Majors Any idea what he means Brian Nope Not a clue Maybe that's one of his special powers Turnup in khakis Is turnip in his khakis Maybe Denny will explain to us what that means

It's like a banana but different Stephen Lobelad says Merry New Year Beep jerky time I'll take it Patrick says Happy New Year of the horror return Looking forward to 2019

All right Mike Boss Says Hmm I wasn't really aware That I'm a member of this group But I love it I recognize the ball Well

Happy New Year everybody Thanks Thanks for your support throughout the year. I really appreciate every single thumbs up and supporting comment, et cetera. For those who haven't seen Anonymous 616, maybe tonight is the night. It's free one on Amazon Prime.

All right. Well, thanks, Mike. You are a part of the group, and sometimes that just happens. You get assimilated. It's like the board. I'm looking the movie up right now. It looks pretty good, actually.

I'm adding it to my cue. Yeah, anything on Prime. Definitely check out. A reunion between two couples becomes a massacre when one of the guests meets an anonymous person online and willingly becomes a participant on a bloody path to becoming godlike. Okay, I'm intrigued. Way to go, Mike Boss. Appreciate you.

Interesting. All right. Yeah, and just like some of our other friends we've interviewed, he definitely looks like he knows how to round up the lovely ladies for the movie. There you have it. So there you go, Mike. we're in your corner brother um regarding the cube sequels uh dan jane says they are all so bad and awesome and jason morris says they are uh that's it for listener feedback this week uh as always thanks to

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You guys ready to jump into featured attractions? Let's do it. That's, you. All right, well, this week, we try to solve our way out of the puzzle with Escape Room and 1997's Cube. Start out with the Cube trivia as directed by Vincenzo Natale, also known for Splice and the TV series Hannibal. Written by Vincenzo Natale, along with Andre Bidjaleck and Graham Manson.

The trivia for this one, not only are the characters named after prisons, but they reflect the prisons themselves. For example, Kazan, the mentally challenged character in Russia, was a prison for the mentally ill. Rens, the mentor, is a French jail that pioneered many of today's prison policies. Quentin, the detective, is known for its brutality, and Holloway was a women's prison in England. Alderson is a prison where isolation is a common punishment, and Leavenworth runs. to a rigid set of rules and the new prison

is corporately owned and built and also the majority that's pretty deep to take it I didn't think of any of that and the majority of this film was shot with a single handheld camera so... Really? Huh. Yeah. I've heard a lot

about this movie. I think it's a pretty big cult classic. I'm going to go first if you guys don't mind. Sure. Yeah. Because I, you know, very unimpressed with the movie compared to what I'd been led to believe and

you know how many people consider it a cult favorite I really didn't think that any of the twists were that great and I read somewhere that at the end they were going to show what spoiler alert for a 97 movie but

they were going to show what the one guy that got out saw but decided not to because they ran out of money or something and then they were saying, well, that made the movie better because you got to make it up on your own. But I'm curious to hear what you guys think about this one, because it just didn't grab me the way I was really hoping it was going to. It's been a while since I've seen it.

I've always liked Cube. I like how, for a majority of it, it's, you know, again, practical effects. Yeah. You know, some of them were pretty gory. And I thought the acting was. is okay. I mean, there's a lot of people and I mean, there's not a lot of people to root for in this movie. Everybody's

kind of an asshole for most of the movie. But as far as, what you were saying about the end, I'm glad they didn't show anything. Because I thought that added to it. And I'm not going to really speak too much about the sequels because they're fucking horrible.

Oh, no. I wish this was just a standalone movie and there was no cube, hypercube or whatever. bullshit. Cube squared. Yeah. But overall, I really

thought, I really agree with this. This is a cult classic for me. It's kind of hard to follow, especially with the whole how to figure out what to go, you know, when to go into the next queue with the whole math and shit like that. And then it gets really fucking jumbled

in the second one. Probably because it doesn't make any sense. Yeah, because they go into fucking time and, like, certain rooms, like, shit sped up, and another room is, like, the time. I don't know, and people are older one minute, and it's fucking weird, and it makes no sense. Well, as far as this, yeah, as far as this one, I enjoyed it. Like I said, there was some good kills. I like the one with the acid spit in the guy's face and just ate his entire face. yeah it sucked he died so early though

yeah what was he the guy that had escaped prison or something like that yeah he was ren the french guy who uh escaped a bunch of prisons and he was like oh okay well let's just listen to this guy because he obviously knows what he's talking about right and he's dead he was the only actor I recognized too yeah I recognize the one guy

quentin I think he was a fucking dick through this whole movie Yeah, he was insane. But, um, I got his. So, Quentin and Worth, huh? Yeah. Worth was the guy that designed the outside of the cube, right?

Yeah, I've seen him in other stuff. But, uh, yeah, I mean, there's really not too much to say about it. You know, they're essentially, they get, they get kidnapped. They don't know how they got there. They got put in this cube. And the rooms are. shifting, some of them are booby-trapped, and they've got to figure their way out. And it's pretty simple compared to the sequel, so.

Straight forward, huh? Like, yeah. No time slowing up or speeding up and slowing down or anything. Yeah, it was weird because, like, in the sequel, the second one, I didn't even finish the third one, because it's fucking garbage. But the second one, like, somebody will stick their head, they'll open up a door, stick their head through it and the door will open in the same room that

they're still in and their head will pop out the other. Yeah, it could have you know, with stuff like that, it could have yeah, it could have been really good but it just, the story was just boring. I thought alternate dimensions is where they were going

with this one at first. Okay. Because you know, if you get to like a four dimension cube you get a tesseract which is

basically a a cube with like eight cubes on the corners it's a goofy fucking thing and you know what they they bring up the tesseract in the second movie do they

see and that's what I figured they were going like fourth dimension maybe alternate dimensions on something like this I think that I think that there was definitely some sort of metaphor happening in the movie. I'm just not entirely sure what it was. Maybe life in general. I don't know.

Right. But, yeah. I went on a roller coaster with this movie. Like, it started, and I was really unimpressed. And the acting was really fucking bad. Yeah, it gets so much love, though. I don't understand why it's such a cult classic. well like some of the

some of the effects were kind of cool like that that first kill out of the gate was pretty awesome and I think that I've tried to watch this before and I just got bored with it and shut it off however by the end of the movie

it was bringing me back around it got a little more artsy and and I think the way that they ended it could not have been more perfect well there you go yeah like it's hard to say that I enjoyed it

because for the first half at this movie I was rolling my eyes and going this is really fucking bad it's really slow right yeah it was it was really slow and the acting was just awful man awful awful awful awful awful awful awful it looked like high school theater level shit

and it didn't get a whole lot better it just got more trippy towards the end and I think that they were trying to say something still not clear as to what it was but I think that they did a good job of it

in the end of it it sounds like Phil might have enjoyed the sequels more Brian yeah I mean but I'm a pre-warned you especially in the second one there is a shit ton of CGI and it's like

bad 90s CGI are yeah there was some questionable stuff in this one i mean like the the the practical effects were okay but some of like the some of the some of the cg i had was very uh iffy very 90s not very uh event horizon more event horizon than you then say Jurassic park yeah so i don't know man i i think i like it It's sort of in the middle for me. Oh, all right. Well, we may as well run through, right? Yeah.

I'm going, I got to go three and a half. I mean, I really wanted to go higher. I think maybe I'll rewatch it one day, but I just think it might have gotten overhyped to me, you know, talking about the old overhyping with bird box and everything, Brian. So I don't know. I can't go higher than three and a half on this one. Yeah, I can see that.

that um i'm gonna go five um if this was probably 10 years ago or whenever i watched it i probably would have gave it a higher one but rewatching it yeah the acting is not in you know i thought i thought it was decent for the most part and i do like the practical effects but it just kind of it's just you know when you why i think when i seen it back then i was kind of like whoa but now i'm seeing it now and it's just kind of like straightforward story there's nothing really to it but I will say I am glad they ran out of money

because I just kind of didn't want to know what happened at the end and I think the ending kind of worked especially with the only person that made it out who is the only person in the movie that I didn't

completely hate yeah because he was the only decent person out of the group because everybody was really fucking shit. I mean, even like the scene where he's like taking a piss. I mean, what is he supposed to do? You know? Yeah. And everybody just gets so fucking

mad. And I'm like, I would have done the same thing. You got to take a piss and you're in a fucking queue. I'm going to go to the corner and take a piss. You got to do something? They have to take the shit. Yeah. I know. I don't know, man. Everybody was

so fucking hateable, really. And the acting didn't help. Like, even the nerdy chick who was... Oh, I hated her. The mad chick. Yeah, she was really hot and really pretty.

Great green eyes when they showed some close-ups of her. I thought the camera work was really good in this movie. Yeah, especially for a handheld. Yeah. But, yeah, everybody was kind of hateable, and I was sort of ready for everybody to die

and then Quentin takes his little turn and I don't want to say too much about it but he was an asshole I wish he to die sooner. I didn't feel bad for worth though. That guy was getting his ass kicked a lot. Yeah. No doubt.

Well, and I felt like it all kind of came out of nowhere, you know? He was like, I can see two people like an x-ray this guy's bad. What that? Fuck. Anyway, I'm going to give it a five also. I think that just the first half of the movie had me hating it, and I didn't expect to give it that high.

But then the second half of the movie, it kind of drew me in, and I kind of got stuck with it. And I sort of loved what they did at the ending. I think that it was, they took a really shitty movie and then did a really artsy thing with it, and it made it good. Well, give them some credit for that then. So three and a half, five, and five. It doesn't sound like we would all recommend everybody rush out

and add this to their must-watch of horror classics. Yeah. I mean, it may have a cult following, and if you're completely out of movies to watch, this might be a good one. What would have chances of that? Yeah. But, I mean, you've got to be ready to stick with it.

through the whole thing because the beginning sucks. All right, well, Cube. So, disappointment, but, hey, we got another movie to talk about. And let's hope that, what did Patrick say about this one last week, Brian? This, he asked if this was going to be this year's bye-bye man. Adam Robatel. And if that name sounds familiar, it's because he did the taking of Deborah Logan. I still got to watch that.

Which was the good one. I like that one. Yeah. I need to go back and watch it again. It's been a few years. And Philip, he also directed Insidious the Last Key. Oh. Writers Maria Melnick, who is also known for, she was the head writer on American Gods.

And Braggie Schutt. I think I'm pronounced to that right. known for Season of the Witch with Nicholas Cage Oh my gosh In the upcoming inversion Wow this is looking like something that could really go Anyway

The karate kid is playing on the TV In the break room when we first meet Ben Not sure why that sets great trivia That was pretty obvious Is this from IMDB? Yeah but I had to actually go outside of IMDB for this next one Okay.

This one's a little more fascinating. So in 2014, there were 22 escape rooms in the United States. Uh, you care to take a guess how many there are now? Uh, shit, ton. Because I know we got, we got some up here. Well, fuck, dude. If they're in Anchorage, they're everywhere. Have you guys ever done one?

No. No, that'd be awesome. I think we're going to have to now. I think so. T.H.R. Escape room. let's try it um but yeah no there's over 2000 now so from 22 to 2000 in like four years that's i don't know anything that's grown that fast how many of them burn you alive oh well the real one just did so bad timing on that you guys hear about that no is that something that happened yeah i was

hoping that was like an onion article or something but uh yeah apparently there's uh not here in the u.s i I think maybe in Poland or something like that. Yeah, it's happened. Yes, Poland. Philip, were you in Poland lately? Is it faulty wiring? Faulting wiring. All right, Jesus.

Listen, my shit don't fuck up. Well, who's going first on this one? I'll go on this one. Uh, I, I, I, I actually really enjoyed it. Um, I can go. Uh-oh. We got a lag. We got a lag time going on here.

Uh-oh. This has a... Brian has become a robot. I'm not entirely sure he's a real person. I think the lines are down in Anchorage. Listen, dude, I've never actually met Brian. He could be a robot. There he is.

You're not convincing me. Not a robot. Are you there? Oh, no. Oh, no. In my back? Yes. Are you in real time?

Am I? Okay. Oh, shit. Sorry. Is that in real? Back. Yeah. In my back?

Can you guys? hear me yeah and and okay Phil said he was gonna go because we couldn't hear you and then we heard we finally heard you say I'll go yeah and you know what my fucking thing's recording now ain't that some shit what it just started

uh do you do you want to go philip or yeah I guess I'll go ahead we'll start over on that part since we had dogs barking and robot Ryan it adds to the show adds to the mystique

um yeah i i i i kind of enjoyed this one um at least at the beginning i think that all the uh little puzzle parts that they had were really cool um they had a bunch of different escape rooms that you know obviously if you've seen the trailer get a little more intense than they realized and suddenly shit gets real uh so there's a bunch of different rooms that they go through and they're all different themed um according to the person that they correlate to. I think that each of the scenes was very creative and cool, and I really liked it. But I don't know what happened with the ending of this movie. That was my problem. It was fucking terrible. It's like they just, like, I don't know if they forgot what they were doing, or they couldn't figure out a way to wrap it up or whatever.

I mean, maybe it was a studio and they were trying to leave it open for a sequel. I can't say too much without spoilers, but it fucking ruined it completely for me. Other than that, I thought the movie was pretty good. They just had a really shitty ending. All right.

You want me to go, Lance? Oh, yeah, go for it, man. Yeah, this movie is fucking garbage. Oh, no. I'm not going to you know I don't know the bye bar man's kind of in its own place because I can probably watch the by bar man and just have fun talking shit about this this movie was boring and I didn't like anybody in it I didn't care for anybody in it and then as far as the death scenes you didn't really see anything this this was being advertised like

up there with like saw and i kind of felt like 13 man but you can still show something i was concerned about the pg 13 thing when i went in yeah and it is a pg 13 version of saw mixed with the cube right i mean i don't and and as far as like solving some of these escape rooms i don't even feel like anybody really solved anything i kind of felt like shit just happened sometimes by accident yeah that's a good point that ending i agree that ended Well, one of the things.

Oh, man. Sorry. The telephal times it felt like the movie. Telephone lines are down. It's snowing up an acreage. All the telephone lines down. I'll translate.

The Enigma's garbage. And you guys. Hear me? There you is. All right. Sorry. Yeah. When we get, I'm sorry.

It's my fault. I don't know. When we get to spoilers, I'll talk about a specific ending I thought was super fucking cheesy. Yeah. But, yeah, I did not like this movie. I thought, uh, what's her name was actually pretty fucking hot. And I never really looked at her that way. Debra Ann Wool.

Is that her name? You never looked at her as hot? Oh, my God. Because, you know, when she plays, when she plays Karen in Daredevil, she always looks like she's fitting a cry all the time. She has these weird eyes that she, even in this movie, she looked like she was on the verge of tears, like, every time the camera was on her. Yeah, she does that. I think that's kind of her thing. But, I mean, she was hot in true blood.

Yeah, yeah. I never saw that. Oh, dude, she's so gorgeous. Like, I'm pretty. pretty sure there's a scene with her boobies in true blood and it was great. Well, I need to find it. Yeah.

And as much as I like him in most things I've seen, I didn't like Tyler LeBean in this one either. Yeah, terrible. Terrible. Which one is he? He was the the truck driver.

Oh, I wasn't mad at him. I thought the main girl was, though. I thought the main girl was okay. She, she kind of played that cute, sweet, innocent. Yeah. But then she takes a turn, which I was just kind of

like rolling my eyes. I understand. Because it didn't make any sense. Yeah. And it was out of nowhere. Yeah. But yeah, I fucking hate this movie. This might be on my top end at the end of the year. Ouch. And I

went in this really wanting to like it. Ouch. Well. That's a shame, man. So, any redeeming qualities at all, Brian? Debra and Wool. Climbing around with the cleavage, huh? Yeah, upside down, all that stuff.

She was a badass in this movie. Yeah? And super hot. Yeah, I found her pretty attractive in this movie, that's for sure, in one scene in particular. We'll talk about the same thing. what happened at Adam Robotaugh? What's that, Brian?

What happened to Adam Robitaugh? This is like, he's like 0 and 2, his last two. Well, I'll tell you what, I'm going to I'm going to differ with you a little bit on this one. I actually had fun.

I actually, there were parts of the movie that I really, that I really enjoyed because the trailer kind of shows you see. I like the way they did the trailer too because they may have done a more spoiler one later, but the one I saw, it really kind of only showed you scenes

from the first two rooms. Because I really, like the third room and beyond. Actually, the third room was the one that I really enjoyed the most. Yeah, definitely. Yeah, for sure. I love the way they did that. I like the way they filmed it.

I thought it was very clever. I thought the second one was pretty cool. Actually, you know, actually, even the first one, man. I didn't have a problem with it. It went off the rail. at one point, we're all going to agree on that, because I know what you're talking about, Brian, but

no, I have fun with it. I mean, is it a masterpiece? No. I mean, is it going to be a horror classic? No. Is it going to be on top 10 of the year? Absolutely not, but I don't think it's going to be in my bottom 10. I had fun with it. I really did.

I mean, yeah, you have to leave your brain at the door a little bit. But I kind of thought that it was a pretty decent little you know what if it had been rated R it would have been a lot better yeah it was a movie that really needed to be rated R and have some real gory kills

in it because you're right most of the kills either happen off screen or they were like super unimpressive and um but I know I thought I thought it was a pretty good little mix of uh like the saw movies and the final destination

movies yeah final destination was the other one that I was going to bring up how does it compare to that I you know what? I think if they would do this the right way and give it the R rating it deserves and maybe get some bigger names in it, I think it would be a pretty good, it can be a pretty good yearly thing, but just don't put Adam Robatil directing it, I guess. No, I'm, I had, I had fun. I really did. I had fun watching it. You guys, you guys ready to

move into scores? Because we got, I mean, you can't talk about this movie without spoiling it, can you? I don't think so I think we would have to spoil it All right Well I guess I'll go first I'm going to give it a I'm going to give it a six and a half I think

Yeah I think it was It was really good It just really fell apart at the end It felt like somebody else Picked up the pieces and tried to finish it Instead of Whoever it was that directed the rest of the movie We got to talk about that ending.

Yeah, it was terrible. It's terrible. I will go to. Oh, no. I did not have fun. I did not like any of the characters. Some of the rooms were cool. I will admit that.

And I completely hated the ending, especially a certain part. We'll get to it. But, yeah, Debra and Wool, got my eye on, you know. That was creepy I bet you're Googling True Blood right now aren't you I already did when he said it Did you find anything?

She has a scene right? Yes Yes She's super hot At least I hope that's her Oh and not Photoshop Lance what do you think? Oh my turn

Yeah Wow Is that really her I think I'm I think I'm Oh, that, come on. Really? Holy crap.

Well, I'm done with this show, guys. I'm going to go once true blood. Wow. Okay, yeah, no, I'm going to be somewhere in the middle of you two. I'm going to give it a four and a half. And especially because of, you know, we keep saying it, but it bears repeating the tact on ending. To me, it just felt like this movie.

So the movie is, clock's in it and an. hour and 40 minutes and I don't know how much of that is credits because I didn't stick around to see if there was any kind of after credit scene or anything but uh dude man the movie felt like two hours and 20 minutes or something yes it did oh my god they could have ended it at a couple of different points and the fact that they didn't kind of oh man it's a shame so four and a half sorry you don't get the 50% or better you don't get a pass on this one you're going to fucking make a movie like this and make it PG-13 and not show any gore, fuck you. Seriously. I mean, that's wrong. You know, I hope you're listening

Adam Robatel because you go fuck yourself. All right. You all ready for some others? Unless you're going to come hang out on the show, in which case we talk about it. We'll talk about the taking of Deborah Logan, but we ain't talking about that insidious shit.

Yeah, that's true. Spoilers? Yeah. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. That last ending, or let's start with when she saves Ben. Mm-hmm. And he just looks at her and like, you came back for me. And she was like, I'm not going to be the only survivor. And it's got this cheesy, like, Victoria's music playing in the background. Right. And it was, I don't know.

And then it picks up six months later, and then it fades the black again. And the whole reveal that it's an organization and all like that. I just, I don't know. I thought it was fucking stupid. Yeah, it was when it picked it back up later. and she was a totally different person and they were like going to go stop these people instead of just escaping or whatever

because the cops didn't believe them when they were there the first time. It was, I don't know, man. Like they had a really good chance to end it a couple of times. They could have even ended in on her screaming about the whole Dr. Wu-Tan, Uber or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That would have been a perfect ending.

um i i think i think it would have even though her screaming was ridiculous um but they they if they had ended it there it wouldn't have been near as bad as the blasphemous piece of shit that they put up where they were like i i think they were just trying to leave it open for a sequel yeah definitely oh and apparently she can fake die fake uh her death from carbon monoxide and foaming at the mouth and everything yeah air bag hanging down and as much as I loved when she jumped up and they were like oh well you know what is she using this for and she jumped up and was like tabree bitch I can even forgive that even though it didn't fit her character

even in the least little bit it was funny though it was pretty funny and another thing the room I hated was the second one the ice room i kind of like that well i like the i like the room but the solution of let's just all put our hands on this big block of ice that was terrible yeah that's not really figuring a puzzle or anything out

yeah there's got to be a better way to do that than to try to melt it with like you know body shit and then you know little shithead long-haired emo kid like just tossing the lighter out there just to be a dick and he even said he was like I was just being an asshole like hey

how about you don't be an asshole that'd be nice dick yeah there's just things that I just didn't really like I hate when you can just instantly figure something out about a character like the guy what was his name Jason

the Wall Street type dude You know he killed his friend on the boat. You knew it. You know what, dude, my score's going down as we speak. This is, you're taking all the fun out of it, man. You're taking all the air out of my balloon, Brian. Yeah, he was, he was... You're the one being a dick right now.

He was the Quentin character. He was, uh... He was an asshole from the beginning, I think, Bill. and yeah yeah but like throwing everybody under the bus in the process

you know what I mean and then climbing on the bodies hey I will say those special effects in the room where they got poisoned were pretty cool pretty trippy oh yeah I like that room I think that's why I had fun

between that scene and the pool in the pool hall room I thought those were both pretty fun scenes. That's what got it up to four and a half for me. Yeah, I just wish Deborah Ann Will's character would have survived. She was a badass in this. I mean, and I liked her whole story, especially

the whole getting hurt in combat and having that fear of fire. But then after, you know, they got out of that room, you know, she was a badass and then she just fell to her death. Yeah, well, took one for the team. didn't she? Yeah. She was

definitely the best character in this movie. Definitely, yeah. Well, her and the Little Indian video game kid that died first. No, man.

I felt bad about him. I was like, fuck, man, they just lost their most valuable person. Yeah. That guy was happy about being there

up until his death. Yeah. He was like, I feel like I'm in the world's funnest game with the world's meanest people. right it was great because it was a bunch of assholes who were not having a good time with this thing at all even though you know i guess they did just almost get burned to death but he was still trying to have a good time man glass hat full kind of dude and uh these people were not having it i did i did think that one line was funny when uh he's seen uh the guys he had the scar on his hand yeah and he asked uh

does it stop you from playing video games? And he was like, yeah, I just, I just sleep with women to make up for the time. Yeah, I make up for it by sleeping with adult women. Yeah. Whatever. That little nerd, it's 2019, man. That little nerd dude gets some serious ass. I promise you.

Dude, hey guys, walk me, walk me through that final, final ending with the airplane? What the fuck? how the fuck was that going to tie into her getting on a real airplane and what the oh that's going to be her that's going to be her escape room I guess

you mean an actual literal airplane so these people are so powerful that they're able to bring down an airplane with like all these innocent people on it and get away with it well maybe nobody's going to ask questions well I was talking to Nez about this

he thinks that's going to be in the next movie. I'm sure. If it is in the next movie, I'm going to say all the plane's not going to be full of people. It's only going to be the people that are going to be in the next

escape room thing. That's not going to be a real plane. Didn't the guy say, you know, hey, you know, we've confiscated her tickets. We've set up a pilot in the plane. Maybe I miss heard. I don't know. It doesn't matter, does it? Yeah, you're trying to have me make sense of this

movie. Did Nez sing he was Hell of good? No, he doesn't like this movie either. It was weird that they were like practicing it. Like it was a simulation. Mm-hmm. Yeah, it was like jigsaw went corporate.

Yeah. Right. And had money to make all his traps in games. Yeah. Or he got hired by the Belko experiment people. Yeah. He's like, let's test him out first and see how they do. Like, we didn't, we didn't need to undo.

bail that part of the movie you know what i mean terrible yeah they should have ended it right when she was like trying to convince the cops and boy that cop sure was fast to just dismiss her huh oh ma'am uh you're mistaken um this place has been abandoned for years uh there's no way anyone could have ever been here all right out let's go yeah but then she started with that whole no way out wu tan you ah you know i was like all right I thought she was saying Wu-Tang Clan at first. That would have been better. It's all about the Wu-Tang Clan.

But, yeah, no, I, that was really the only part that I hated from her, aside from the very end. Even though she was a lot cuter at the very end, I felt like, you know, when she put the dress on and had the little smirk going, and I was like, oh, she doesn't look like a 12-year-old. anymore she's kind of cute um but it just didn't fit her character and yeah it was a whole extra scene that just didn't need to be there agreed all right he is ready to sign out yep yeah we're not off to a great start but i mean you know it it could it brian admit it could have been worse oh it could have been like i said this isn't bye-by-man or Slender Man worse. Or Insidious the last key.

It's a small bump up from that, right? Yeah, I mean, I think most of my disappointment was I really was looking forward to this movie. Yeah, that's too bad, man. Better than last year. Well, I'll take... Maybe next week will be better, huh? Oh, yeah. I mean, what is it?

Canadian show? Yeah. Great White North. Okay. Well, damn, Brian, that's right up your alley, right? Yeah, kind of sort of. They've got you surrounded. Yeah.

All right, well, as always, we want to thank all you guys for listening to another episode of the horror returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You know where to reach us. Like Phil said, there's a new t-shirt design coming out that we're ready. We just need the reviews to get enough to do a run. Follow us everywhere you would follow us Oh, a couple of side shows We'll talk about real quick

We're doing probably next week We'll have a saddle up episode For The Magnificent Seven Old and New So you guys are going to be in on that one? We'll try to be Yeah, I think so And as Brian said earlier

Stream Queen episode number two We'll be out Oh fast and furious That's right All right, boy, this show's plagued, man. We're cursed tonight. We're the Texans tonight, Brian. Hate to say.

Oh, shit. But, yeah, we'll have a stream queen number two. That's going to be Bird Box. Hopefully, at least some of us will be able to join Mel on that one. But getting back to the horror returns, next week we're going to be joined by YouTube Sensation. If I can yell at me, if you heard me say it. Desmond Peel

He's got a YouTube channel And I heard him on another podcast And he's got some Got some pretty cool horror knowledge So he's going to be bringing that That here to the show And we're going to again cover the Horror Movies of Canada

Hey It's going to be Ginger Snaps, Pontipool, and Backcountry So Phil Until the Cowboys win next week I don't know.