The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #14: Hanna (2011) & Morgan (2016) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: April 24, 2021

This week we check out Morgan and Hanna. Thanks for listening!

And here we are again with another episode of The Horror Returns. I'm Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Philip. How's it going, guys? Going pretty good. Yeah, I'm here. What's up? Well, let's start out with, as we always do, with the discussion of some of the highlights of what we've checked out this week. Philip, I know you've been working a lot, man. Yeah, I think, man, what have I watched?

I did, I caught up with Fear of the Walking Dead. All caught up? Yeah, it's going okay. It's still trucking along. It's not, it's not anything that's, you know, again, it's not, it's not the Walking Dead. So I'm trying to stay with it and it's definitely a slow burn. Each episode is even a little bit slow. A little bit slower than the Walking Dead for you. Yeah, yeah. But, you know, it's keeping my attention. What do you think, Brian, did you get caught up yet? I am like six episodes. behind. Oh man, you're still living in the past, dude. They're not even in Mexico yet where I'm at, so. Well, I can't, I can't talk because I didn't, I didn't watch last week's either.

I'm one behind now. Well, Mexico doesn't happen until, you know, mid-season, so you, you still got a bit to go. Okay. Yeah, you don't have too far to go. Anything else? No, that's, uh, that's about all I've watched this week. I didn't watch too much either. I've been pretty busy. I did watch, uh, you guys ever check out the late to rest series. Yeah, Chrome Skull? Yeah. I've heard a lot about it.

I've never seen those two films. I heard one of them's pretty good and the other one most people think kind of sucks. The sequel is kind of all over the place with the story, but they're pretty for Slashor movie, they're pretty explicit, kind of gory.

Oh, that's cool. Yeah, the first one's really good, though. One of it's called Chrome Skull, and one of them's called laid duress, right? Yeah, Chrome Skull's the sequel, because that's the main villain, I guess you would call him in it. So what's, yeah, where do they come up with that name?

Does he wear like a mask or something? Yeah, he's got like this chrome skull mask that he wears all the time. You never really see his actual face. That's kind of cool. Oh, cool. Kind of like early Jason. Yeah, he's pretty creepy. Like, even like when he gets hurt,

like he doesn't even like make any noise or scream. or anything. Right. Like I said, the second one, the story is kind of like all over the place. Kind of loses itself a little bit,

huh? Well, dude, it's a slasher movie. I mean, what kind of story you're really going to have? Yeah, and that's pretty much

I watched them. Trying to get ready for this upcoming TV season. There is a whole bunch of stuff coming out this month, actually. A lot of shows we'll be talking about here. But pretty much that's all I watch, though.

Yeah, I haven't really watched anything new. Have you guys ever heard of a fantasy writer named Patrick Rothfuss? I think so. Yeah, he's one of the hottest fantasy writers going right now. There's a series that he writes called The King Killer Chronicles. And I think he's come out with two so far on the third ones do. Hopefully he'll be a little bit more speedy than Jar Jar Jar Martin. We can hope

But yeah, I'm reading the first one It's called The Name of the Wind And I don't know, about 70 pages in About an 800 page book So I've got a ways to go But I have time to read all that shit, man It's if I can make time, I guess, you know?

Yeah Try to wake up before anybody else does It's a good habit to get into you Right As with every show It's time to take a little trip down to the trailer park we take a look at the big the small and sometimes the very very weird brian what's our first uh trailer to talk about this week first one is jack goes home

heha what the fuck is this fucking it's home alone is what it is what colin the first thing i said when i saw it is that mccoli colkin that is actually rory colkin what he is he is is the youngest of, I believe there's seven of them. Oh, come on, Brian. I didn't actually expect it to be a Colkin until Lance said something about it. And I was like, are you serious? Well, yeah, no, I mean, I saw him at the beginning, too. Yeah.

And I thought that was McCauley Colkin. It looks like you. And then I thought, okay, so the title of the movie is ironic. It's like a full circle back to home alone. Yeah. I was like, wow, he's looking a lot less like a crackhead these days. put a little weight on, huh? Yeah.

Brian, what is this movie about, man? Apparently it's about Jack goes home. I don't know. There's something going on in that. What is the attic or something? All I know is Lynn Shea was in there. And there's definitely some intensity. Definitely.

I mean, I'm a little intrigued just because I want to know what's in the attic. Yeah, last week we were watching something we were wondering what's in the basement with James Kahn. You said it was the good neighbor? I believe it is. Now we're wondering what's in the attic. This might be a trend here.

You know, this one has got, I mean, it seems like it has a decent cast. It's got, okay, so, Roy Culkin, I don't know if he's a big name or not, but it's at least big enough to have that. It's got, okay, so Lynn Shea, what has she been in before? What hasn't she been at?

Because as soon as I saw her, was like, okay, I know this chick. Mainly the insidious movies for horror fans. She's been in a lot of comedies. Oh, she's in something about Mary, dumb and dumber. Yeah, I'll always remember her from Kingpin. Kingpin, there you go.

Oh, wow. So she really likes working with the Fairley Brothers. And then it's got this, that Natasha Leon chick from American Pie, and she's in... Orn's in black, right? Yeah, she's weird. She's in a lot of stuff She always plays a really weird chick, right? Yeah, but I like her.

I like her a lot. She's the lesbian chick in Orange and is New Black, right? Yeah, she's, I haven't seen a lot that I didn't like her in, so. Yeah, exactly. I like, I like her in about everything I've seen her in. Yeah, I think, like I said, I'm intrigued. It looks like it has a good cast, and, you know, it doesn't really give away too much, so. Or anything at all.

Yeah, because watch the previews. all you want, all you get to see is who's in the movie. Because it's not going to give away any of the plot. Could be promising. It comes out October 14th, so a couple of weeks before Halloween. Pretty good timing. Good luck catching it in the theater, though, because I don't know if it'll be a big release. Yeah, I'll probably be limited.

And, okay, we're going to move on to our second and last trailer for the week is the Disappointments Room. Oh, yes. everybody's favorite Kate Beck and Sale, guys. We're blonde here. Yeah, I didn't recognize her at all. I know, right? It took a second. Yeah, so this movie comes out next week, actually. Oh, wow.

Yeah, this is, uh, we were going to review, uh, before I wait next week. Okay. And this is the movie that bumped it out. Ah, okay. So are we going to do, you guys want to do this instead of the, uh, Range 15 and Sean of the Dad or what? I'm really not looking forward to this movie. from what I understand this movie's rather watch range 15 yeah from what I understand this movie's been done for over a year

oh no they're just hanging yeah and I got a little little background on it I guess uh through uh the company uh what is it relativity media I guess they had went bankrupt and that's why a lot of these uh movies like this one and before I wake keep getting pushed wow so dude that's not very promising. Yeah. It sounds like a literal disappointments room. Which I had to look,

I had to look up disappointments room to find out what it is. Right. It sounds like it, I mean, it has a good premise. Like the actual meaning

of a disappointments room is a, I guess families used to have a room where they would hide their kids with disabilities. Really? Oh, okay. All right. All right.

That had no idea. Yeah, that gets a whole new meeting. Which, I mean, I had no idea. It was a real thing. Okay, all right. That makes it a little more intriguing, but after watching the trailer, it just doesn't really look like anything's happening. So it's like hiding the weird... Disturbed Kid or whatever.

Well, like the weird, deformed kid in the attic or something, you know? Oh, shit. The Deformed Kid. Well, how many movies have you seen like that, you know, where you've got some crazy, deformed son and he's like in the attic or some shit, right? Two movies like that. May not be politically correct.

Right. Yeah, we don't worry about political correctness on the podcast. We just don't talk politics. Goonies. Matter of fact, I think they did it on the last season of American Horror Story. Hey, you guys. It's actually pretty funny.

You should mention American Horror Story. Because the vibe that I got, when I watched the the preview was the real life story of the guy in Chicago that built the murder hotel. Oh, okay. Yeah. They kind of loosely based season five of American Horror Story on. Because they had all the hidden rooms and stuff like that,

and I noticed in this trailer they had, like, found a room that had been hidden or something like that. Yeah, I also got a little bit, like, that kind of made it appear that this might be all in her head. I got a little bit of that from watching the trailer. Man. Oh, that'd be cool. Well, okay, so I'm going to like

So I look at blueprints a lot, right? And there was blueprints in the trailer. And I actually did come across one time a really good client that has got more money than he knows what to do with. And his house is huge. And he's got this little hidden safe room in his house. It was wigging me out for like I spent three hours trying to figure out what the, where the fuck am I in the attic? Because I. I was over the top of this little safe room. Wow, no shit, dude. And it wasn't in the prints. You know, I didn't know it was there. Oh, wow, they kept it off the blueprints, huh? I was like, you got this, a hidden stash room. You got this crazy dead space between this wall and that wall, and he's like, oh, that's not a dead space.

Did he tell you what it was for? Yeah. Wow. I'm not going to say his name, so he'll break into his house. Bring it a real story to the horror returns. Yeah, man. So, I don't know. It was, it was a cool.

It was a cool little moment for me because I was like, oh wow, this is like a discovery. Oh, that's pretty cool. Like I was in a horror movie. One thing I wanted to do real quick that I forgot to say, I'm going to give a rest in peace to Gene Wilder. Oh, yeah. Oh, man. The Candyman can, huh?

Yeah, which actually today when I was at the theater, I didn't even know they was showing Willie Walker at the theater today. Oh, that's cool. Yeah, which if I would have known, I would have went to the movie, there's a little bit earlier. Right. Young Frankenstein. That's one of my favorites.

That's Frankenstein. Yeah. There he goes. Just wanted to do that real quick, and now we can get on to the news. The first one is the Tremus TV show is coming to Amazon. Yeah, that kind of pisses me off because I don't have Amazon. That's like one of the few things I don't subscribe to. Okay.

A, you should totally get Amazon Prime because it is worth it just for the free shipping. Yes. B, I don't know that the Amazon video thing is as big as Netflix. I'm going to tell you right now, it's not as big as Netflix. And so I think coming to Amazon is a mistake, and I don't think that it's going to, it's not going to be as awesome as it could be. Yeah, but Kevin Bacon is confirmed for it, right? Oh, he's the one that's actually getting this going.

Right. Yeah, he's in everything. Yeah, and the little bit of information I got is it's going to be a ten, episode series. I like that. Yeah, he is starring in it. It's not like he's going to make a cameo. It's basically like him 25 years later.

I think that's the perfect approach to it, don't you? I don't know about tremors, though, man. It was kind of a goofy fucking movie to start with. Yeah, that's why I always liked them, though. Yeah, I mean, no, yeah, it's super cool. For the time frame that it was in, but to try to go back and bring that one back, that's weird. I don't know. I'm all for it. I just wish it was on a different format than Amazon.

Yeah. And from a couple rumors I read, they're trying to get Fred Ward to come back. Oh, that would be perfect. Which, I mean, I think it can happen. I mean, I haven't seen him do anything in a while. So I'm assuming Michael Gross is going to be in it, right? I mean, he's been in every other one, right? I would assume. CGI tremors? I hope not.

You know. Yeah, that was one of the, that's why I love the first one, because, you know. You know it will be. Hold on, hold on. Are you guys, because I don't watch anything on Amazon Prime. So are you trying to say they're sort of like the sci-fi channel of the instant streaming world? Well, no. They do a lot of CGI stuff.

I don't know that Amazon Prime has anything that's specific to them yet. But, I mean, it's cheaper and easier to do CGI than it is to do. Right. Some grand puppet. So it's more of an over- Overlying factor. That's the way everything's done now. That's the way the...

Yeah, I got you. It seems like, you know, you just go out, you film what you need to film, and then everything else is just CGI it in. But hopefully, with Kevin Bacon, the main one getting this going, maybe they'll keep it practical like the original one.

Yeah, we'll see. We'll give it. I'm sure we're all going to give it a chance. Yeah. Okay, our next one is you guys, you both have seen Stranger Things, right? Oh, yeah, for sure. Yeah, that was cool. It's just officially been greenlit for season two for next year.

I think that was going to happen for sure, man. I hear a lot of good stuff about that show. Well, they've had, like, I saw some little teaser thing last week about, like, all the episode names for season two. Yeah, I got a quick little information. They've already got the episode names? Yeah, it was like a... They didn't show any videos. It was just...

It was like a quick little teaser. Are you serious? Yeah. Wow, dude, they really had this thing planned out, huh? Yeah, quick little information. Instead of eight episodes, it's going to be nine episodes. It's going to be set in the fall of 1984. Cool.

Which is a e-glator. Ah. All of the characters are returning, but it said as far as now, the girl that plays 11, her name's Millie Bobby Brown. Okay. She is not confirmed as of right now to come back. Well, she's kind of the central character to the whole story. Why the hell wouldn't you bring her back?

I bet that they will. They just haven't said anything about it. Yeah. And they're going to be introducing four new characters that are going to be a big part of the story. And they said the show will go beyond their hometown of Hawkins, Indiana. Right. And they'll also be exploring the upside down even more. Wow. Okay. I'm looking forward to it. When's it going to come out? Do you know?

As far as right now, it just says the fall of 2017. Yeah, because I heard like the producers originally wanted to do it like 25 years later. I don't know about that. I think they made the wise choice here, right? And then they went back to just a year later. Well, I don't know. I kind of like it as a total separate story. I think that that's kind of cool. But you put 25 years later. later than it turns into kind of an it situation. I didn't even think about that.

Didn't even draw that conclusion. So this may be good, man. I mean, I'm sure it will be. The original was pretty good. Netflix does a really good job about stuff. Yeah, I really enjoyed the first season. Yeah, me too. Okay, and our final thing is not really a news item.

It's just I just want to read off all the TV shows that are coming out this month because I had mentioned earlier there's a lot coming out this month. Right. So I'll just give everybody what's coming out and the dates. All right, cool. So we got from Dust Till Dawn season three, which is September 6. Got American Horror Story season 6, September 14th. Gotham, Season 3, which is September 19th.

I gave up on that one after one episode. Yeah. Yeah, I just have this thing. Once I start a show, I just have to finish it, even if I hear it. Me too, normally. Is it, are you still watching it? Yeah. Is it good?

I don't like it. Because I stopped. I think I finished the first season, but I don't think I watched the second at all. I really don't like the kid that plays Bruce Wayne. I hate Jada Pinkett Smith, and she's back. Guess who's back? I normally like her. Back again.

I normally like her. I don't think I like her in this show. Right. Oh, yeah, she's back with superpowers, so. All right. Yeah. I don't think I like the guy that played the penguin He grew on me actually

Yeah Actually The character I like the most is the guy that plays the riddler Oh yeah yeah yeah Actually that was kind of cool Yeah Because he was like in the police station and stuff Yeah he was like the forensic guy

Okay Lucifer season 2 September 19th Down with that I kind of like Lucifer That was a pretty good show Yeah Agents of Shield season four,

September 20th. For real? Yep. Wow, fourth season. Shit. I know that was the one. Yeah, this is the one with a ghost rider. Really?

Oh, man, and I'm a Marvel guy. Moving on? You say Ghost Rider and I get excited. Like, I haven't... Only if it's Nick Cage. I watched... God, those movies were terrible. Those movies were terrible.

Don't get me started. You know, I watched like two... episodes of that agents of shield and couldn't, couldn't do it anymore, man. Yeah, I had watched the first two of the season, or season one, and I had tapped out. Me too. Sounds like that's three for three on that.

Yeah, but everybody- You're still watching this show? Apparently, me, because I've seen all three seasons. Does it get better? No. Jesus, like, they, they, I'm, okay, I'm going to say it like this, The end of season three, they were running commercials that a major member of the team was going to die. And then they killed someone that you didn't give a shit about.

Sounds like The Walking Dead lately. Exactly. The Walking Dead has run out of major characters to kill. We have to see who Negan takes down, right? Well, I think I know who... I think it's going to be Glenn. I think it's going to be just like the comics. It's got to be.

They've got to go back to the comics this time. I think it's going to be Glenn, and I think it's going to be a big fucking deal. Yeah. A lot of people. People should be pissed off. Yeah. If it's not Glenn, I feel like people might stop watching the show. Yeah, it's like damned if you do, damn it.

Half of us will be pissed if it is him. The other half of us will be pissed if it isn't. I think you kind of have to. For me, you have to. Yeah. Okay. Scream Queens season two, which people keep telling me to watch this show. Really?

I've heard the same thing. I heard it was sad. I heard it was really good, actually. Really? I couldn't take it after two episodes. All right, that's all I need to hear. Maybe you're the reason I heard it was bad. This comes out September 20th.

Sci-Fi has a couple shows coming out on the 23rd and 27th. Van Helsing. What? Yeah, it's going to be a female Van Helsing. No! No! No! You've got to be kidding, man. Nope. And on the sci-fi channel to boot, huh?

Oh, bullshit. And they also have a whole shit. And they also have a horror anthology called Channel Zero coming out. Is that the M. Night Shyam all in? Oh no, that's The Tales from the Crypt revisit, right? Yeah. Okay. And our last two on the list here, we got the Exorcist also coming out on September 23rd.

I'm interested. I will watch that. I'll check it out too. And Marvel's Luke Cage comes out on Netflix, September 30th. Definitely watching that. That are good. I need to go back and watch the other Marvel stuff on Netflix. Especially for Luke Cage, you got to check out Jessica Jones.

Are they all like interconnected? Like, do I need to watch one to see the other? Well, he's a big part of Jessica Jones. Big part. After all these Netflix shows introduce all the characters, they're going to be a team called The Defenders, and that's going to be its own Netflix series. Yeah, I'm like, I think Netflix.

Netflix is doing it right. Last week, I forgot to mention, they did Greenlit Punisher Netflix series, too. Oh, that'll be cool. I'll definitely watch that. I just finally wrapped up Daredevil Season 2 about a week ago. Did you like it? Oh, absolutely. Much better than the first season, and I love the first season.

Wow. Yeah, I think Adding the Punisher was the right thing to do. Yeah. And they got the perfect actor for it. I got through like half of the first season, and I was trying to watch it with my wife and she wasn't like hanging in there with me. She wasn't feeling it. No, so I kind of stopped.

Well, she works a lot. Yeah, my wife, for some reason when she hears Daredevil, she associates it with the Ben Affleck one. Yeah. And so she's just like, why are you watching this? And I'm like, it's not that one. Stop thinking it's that one. Yeah.

So just like with the trailers, that's been a pretty slow news week. So that's all I got for this week. All right. So now on to tonight's featured attractions, We review Morgan, starring Kate Mara, and then we go back to 2011's Hannah, directed by Joe Wright. So as always, we'll start with some trivia about Morgan. It was directed by Luke Scott, also known for Loom and an episode of The Hunger.

Does the name Luke Scott sound at all familiar to you guys? Not at all. Well, let me ask you this. When it comes to directors of films, does the last name Scott ring a bell at all? Yes. It probably does, but I'm terrible with names. Ridley Scott. Oh, yeah, there you.

This is Ridley Scott's son. Really? Huh. Indeed. You knew that, right, Brian? Yeah. And that's Morgan? Yeah, yeah.

The director of Morgan, Luke Scott, is actually Ridley Scott's son. Wow. And there's a couple of scenes where I kind of saw it, at least an alien influence. Yeah, yeah. Kind of toward the maybe two-thirds of the way through. I think you guys know what I'm talking about, right? right? I guess we can get into that.

A writer was Seth Owen, also known for Peepers and the TV show Something Weird. Any ideas, guys? Something weird? Never heard of it. No? Kate Mara, Toby Jones, and Paul Giamati have all appeared in superhero films.

Mara and Jones both appear in the Marvel Cinematic Universe with Mara appearing in Iron Man 2 and Jones appearing in Captain America the First Avenger and Captain America the Winter Soldier Mara also has a role as Susan Storm

in the wonderful 2015 Fantastic Four that nobody saw Yay And of course you guys know Giamati was in Amazing Spider-Man 2 Right as the Rhino Which movie was worse Which Fantastic 4 movie?

No, Fantastic 4 in Amazing Spider-Man 2 That's a great. Oh, dude, Fantastic 4, by a lot. You think so? Because I really liked Amazing Spider-Man, too. Yes, absolutely. Did you? Yeah, I liked that dude as, what is his name?

Oh, yeah, you like Andrew Garfield. Yeah, I like Andrew Garfield. I liked him as Spider-Man. The first one was great, but I think the second one fell victim to heaven. The same thing that happened in the Toby McGuire third movie, where you got 16 million different villains on the screen at one time. Well, yeah, that's definitely a part of it. You know, I think it was just,

overkill on the villains. I think they should have, if they had focused on just one conflict, I think it would have been a much better movie, but, you know, that's just my opinion. All right, so Morgan, that was the big film this week. Philip, I think you, did you see it today? I saw it this morning, yeah. You know, it wasn't, it wasn't bad. I got to say the small twist that it had in the ending, because I almost don't even want to call it a twist, because because I kind of saw it coming.

You too! 20 minutes into the movie. Yeah, there you go. I was like, it would have been more surprising had it not happened. You know, since I don't want to give any spoilers out on the new movie. I got to say, I thought it was solid. It was a good movie to watch.

You know, I don't know really a whole lot to say about it. It kept my interest the whole time, that's for sure. All the way through to the end, huh? Yeah, all the way through to the end. I thought it was pretty good. I thought maybe the ending could have been different. I kind of wish it had been. But, yeah, kind of saw the twist coming.

I don't know how to do this without getting too much into the spoiler aspect of the movie. I thought it was fun to watch. May not be a go to the movie theater and watch it movie. I would probably wait for an on-demand kind of thing. Right. Yeah. Well, I went into the movie. At first, I kind of wanted to hate it.

And I don't know if that was just the Kate Mara thing, or I just had feelings that I wasn't going to enjoy the film for whatever reason. And then when I found out Luke Scott was Ridley Scott's son, I really actually wanted to enjoy it. And it was kind of a love-hate thing for me, guys. I mean, you know, I thought the beginning of it first, 15 minutes or so was a little bit corny. It seemed to be some kind of contrived scenes.

It seemed like something you'd seen in two or three other films that have come out in the last couple of years or so, one of which we may talk about tonight. Ex Machina? Absolutely. Yeah, definitely got that feel for it. X Machina was better, by the way. It almost hooked me, guys. It almost hooked me.

I was really, really getting a real strong vibe of a British TV show called Black Mirror. Have you guys ever seen that? It's on Netflix, isn't it? It is on Netflix. And actually, Netflix is going to be sponsoring the second season of it. Okay. It was originally a BBC show. But the whole point of that particular series is that it takes something that's going on in current technology.

And it sort of, you know, pushes it a couple of years into the future, as they always say, you know, quote unquote, the not too distant future. Like it might, you know, be the way we use. cell phones now and it might show you how we might be using them in 10 years and stuff like that. So we're kind of looking at ourselves through, as they say, a black mirror, like kind of a dark dystopian future based on current technology. So I got a lot of that vibe out of this movie. The storytelling actually wasn't too bad for the first one-third of it. I thought the setup was pretty decent. I like the beginning of the movie. It was the end of it that I kind of had an issue with. Yeah, I really enjoyed the first one-third.

It was starting to really grab me the second third of the movie. And by the time we got to the scene that I said kind of reminded me of alien because of running through the hallways and the flashing lights and everything, it kind of lost me. It just felt like nothing in the last third of the movie was earned. They never really gave you a solid reason to believe that this young lady would be acting the way she is acting. Why is she this, you know, aggressive or, you know, I mean, I'm sure that the writer in their own mind knew exactly why everything happened the way that it did. But it was kind of a weird catch-22 for me because it was like the movie was a little too long. It would have been better as like a one-hour episode of Black Mirror or something like that. But they also left way too many loose ends for my liking.

They didn't go into any of the background or explain why she is what she is. Like, for example, I'm assuming that they created her to be a weapon, that she was going to be part of the military, but they made it just kind of look like a corporate set up thing. Yes, okay, so that's my thing. Why, every time they have a movie about creating some super artificial intelligence or some super technology or something, does it have to be weaponized? Are we not able to grow as a culture and just incorporate that shit

into our, you know, our culture without having it be some sort of military thing. Well, we may be making a lot of assumptions, too. I mean, we're trying to, our minds are trying to fill in why she acted the way she did. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Because nothing else would explain why she would have fucking acted that way. It made no sense. Totally unurned. And, you know, and I don't think that that's giving anything away, because you obviously know,

I mean, from the previews, she, you know, stabs the chick in the eye. So. and then the first 30 seconds of the literally the first 30 seconds of me yeah but the the setup for that was I mean I'm not going to tell I'm not going to give away what was told to her that she couldn't have anymore

or couldn't do anymore but it just seemed like that wasn't enough for her to for me that wasn't enough for her to just start acting this way well I think it's I think it's totally valid to give up why she does that and I mean just because it's in the first literally the first minute of the movie, you know, is what happens. The way that they word it is because she can't go outside anymore

and they lock her in this room. Now, part of me says, okay, if you're going to lock me in a room, eventually I'm going to get fed up with that shit. And it's why I quit my last job. Eventually, you're going to get fed up with that shit and you're going to be like, all right, I'm not doing this anymore. And fuck you if you're going to try to make me.

And so I kind of get that from an artificial intelligence growing up sort of standpoint, especially since in the movie, she's supposed to be five years old, right? Yeah. But she's, you know, obviously matured. I mean, they've got her at like an advanced age. At one years old, they had her little one-year-old birthday thing, and she was, she looked like she was probably five or six. I don't know I think that I think that every every like turning point in the plot

was kind of pushed you know what I mean Absolutely couldn't agree with you more Like the DePaul Giamati thing And I that was part in the preview too So I'm going to talk about it He was pushing her man And he was trying to push her

And he was doing a psyche eval right And obviously something is going to happen If you're pushing her that hard You know what I mean and I guess that he's trying to make sure that she's not a danger to herself or anybody else. Obviously, she's just stabbed something in the eyes.

So it's probably not a good idea to go in and start pressing fucking buttons, jackass. But hey, that's what Paul Giamati does. I really wanted to like this movie. I really wanted to like this movie, guys. Yeah, I did too. And, I mean, it wasn't terrible. some of the turning points in the plot were a little extreme

I actually liked this more than I thought I was going to yeah I thought the majority of the cast I thought they did a good job had a hell of a cast yeah because for most of them I really felt like they genuinely cared for Morgan yeah I got to say the acting was really good yeah I just I thought that did a good

and I did not recognize that was Rose Leslie you guys know rose leslie uh the names oh oh you're talking about egress yeah oh hell yeah i recognized you right off the bat oh the minute i saw her i expected to hear you know nothing john snow yeah i thought that was yeah i thought that was super cool i was excited i was excited about her being in it and and uh and katie mara who is in you know a ton of other things don't really like her as actress i fucking hate kate mara

as an actress really but if you guys want to see you Rose Leslie in a really, really good movie that's super low budget. Have you guys heard of a film called Honeymoon? Yes. Super creepy. Have you seen that, Brian?

Yes. Isn't it on Netflix, too? Yeah, would you go out on a boat with her? No. That's a great movie, dude. She's kind of a creepy sort of chick. She was super creepy in this too, wasn't she? I don't know if she was creepy,

but I knew as soon as she came on the screen. Well, A, she's probably, too big a name at this point to have as just an extra character. So I knew that she was going to be something. And then, you know, I kind of knew that she was going to play some sort of pivotal role in the movie. Yeah, you kind of knew she was going to be a problem. Yeah, we don't want to get too much away. But, yeah, the cast, you know, Jennifer, Jason Lee, for her name actress, I kind of felt like she had like,

well, was she on screen for maybe five minutes total, the whole movie? Well, yes, she had her eye poked down. Oh, that shit down. But then again, we're not spoiling because that was in the, like you said, Brian, the first 30 seconds, literally. Got to say that poor chick, man. Dude, like if you see the movie, you know what I'm talking about. That poor chick. Right.

For real. But, um. Are you serious? That is a straight innocent. But I actually, you know, I really enjoyed it. When I first came into the theater, I didn't, I thought I was going to hate. this movie and I ended up liking it a little bit more. Man,

very happy for you, Brian. I didn't hate it. I, uh, you know, I, I didn't, I didn't go in with any real expectations. I knew that it, it was, uh, slightly limited release, but I, I was sort of, I mean,

it had a, it had a pretty decent cast, you know, I was kind of hoping for, um, for something good. I, yeah, I don't know if I quite got what I expected, but it's not terrible. I think it was worth watching. Brian, what do you think about the actor Toby Jones, the guy that

plays Dr. Ziegler? I've seen him in a few things. He's a decent actor. To me, it seems like he just, he's typecast all the time. He's always like the little mad scientist type guy, you know? He looks like a weird little mad scientist guy. That might be a good reason

to cast him that way, then. Does he not? If it's not that, then you're putting him in the disappointment's room. It's fucking cold, dude. That was, that was me. I'm sorry. But yeah, he's been at a lot of movies for sure. Yeah, I mean, he was fine in the movie.

Like I said, I felt like there was quite a few named, a big name, well, at least big name to me. Right. Actors and actresses that was in this movie that had like very small parts. Small part? Yeah, I'm very familiar with Michelle Yao. That's what I was going to say. Yeah, Michelle Yow. Man, she was in it.

She's looking worse for where. Huh? Yeah. Well, she's getting older, man. Yeah, she's... I think she's in her 50s now. Yeah. See, hey, look, Asians age well, and she's still not bad. Yeah, I just didn't understand that she was in this role. She might have been on the screen less than Jennifer Jason Lee. That's saying a lot.

Yeah, I guess it was... It's kind of a big name to get for having... the screen time that she had, you know? True. Although, I mean, I guess she did kind of play sort of a pivotal role. She was like the mother to Morgan. Also, be aware, I mean, if you're

Ridley Scott's son, you can probably call in a few favors. Yeah, that's true, too. I will say I did when, once Morgan got into action, right? I will say I enjoyed her, I guess, her handywork if you want to call it that. Yeah, the action... Turned into a slasher film,

the action sequences were pretty cool. Yeah, that's probably what I say I got disappointed because when you got into those sequences, like you said, Philip, the ending kind of didn't pay off. And I got to say action sequences, Kate Mara, I thought she did a pretty good job. Yeah, she was holding her own.

I think for me, because I'll admit, I didn't see the ending or the twist like that. Didn't see it coming, huh? Not right away, but then when we got to those scenes, well yeah i was kind of oh okay when you realize what she was i'm kind of like philip i think i saw it about 20 minutes into the movie yeah one scene though kind of toward the end i thought okay maybe i was wrong about the twist right yeah yeah me too and then of course it was like nope wasn't wrong right yeah yeah i was late i was late on it i enjoyed most of it the the ending was just kind of you know

this is just kind of whatever yeah i thought it was more of a uh i thought it was more of a uh i I think the character development was great. I think the acting was great. I think it was more the... There was a few, like, plot holes and maybe some... In a movie like this, you kind of have to have a really kick-ass twist, and they didn't have that. They tried.

Yeah, they tried, but, I mean, come on. There was a few things that they were just kind of missing, you know? And if they had been in the movie, this would have been way better. Because it had the cast, it had the acting, and had the character development. I thought it was, it's, you know, 75% of the way there. So guys, what's, what was with the hoodie? Yeah, I was wondering that too.

What was the, what was the purpose of that, Brian? I just thought it was her thing. Yeah. She'd been doing it since she was a small child, so. Right. They just keep getting her hoodies that are slightly bigger. Maybe because she was a little withdrawn and shy. She always had her hoodie on.

Maybe. I thought, okay, that makes sense. I thought from the preview that she was bald. That's what I thought. Yeah.

And she wasn't. She's got like this pulled back blonde hair. And, and they show you that from the time that she's, you know, yeah,

you know, I'm sure six months old, but she looks like she's about five. Yeah, I kind of thought the hoodie was weird, especially at the end

when she, well, I guess I can't go too into that. But obviously, things get hectic and if you need more vision then maybe a hoodie is not the best choice. I was trying to remember

where I had seen this young lady before. The witch. You guys have both seen that movie, right? I still haven't seen the witch. Yeah, that was, I just figured that out. She was the little girl in the witch. I need to watch the witch. That is a great movie.

Yeah? Yeah. She's also in that movie we reviewed the trailer, split. The new M. Knight Chamael. All right. Gotcha. So is she the one that he takes hostage or what? Yeah, he's one of the girls. Or she's

one of the girls that gets taken hostage. Cool. Okay. All right. So she could have a pretty good future in acting, it looks like. Yeah. Well, she's like, 20? She is. Yep, 20. Yeah, 20 years old. And I'm looking at her filmography. She mostly does movies that are

in this genre. So. Right. I thought she did a pretty good job, man. Oh, I did too. I really did. I thought she was my favorite part of the movie for sure. The acting was pretty on point for everybody. I thought it was pretty well done.

It was just... You know, I mean, the writing could have been a little better as is all. Well, it sounds like we're ready for scores, guys. What do you think? Yeah. Yep. Philip, you did your review first, right? Yeah, I'll go ahead and give it a...

I'm going to give it a five. I think that it was, it's worth watching. If you miss it, it's not a big deal. I wouldn't go to the movies. But if you happen to catch it on demand, it's worth a rental. You know, when the price goes down, or if it's on Netflix or something, it's definitely worth watching. So you give it a five?

Yeah. Right in the middle of the road. Yeah, right in the middle of the road. I'm going to give it a five. Not too bad. Yeah, I really, like I said, God, this movie almost hooked me. Yeah.

20, 30 minutes in, it just started grabbing me. It was that black mirror vibe. I was thinking that I was watching a really, really cool episode of Black Mirror there for a little bit. But, uh, guys, I hate to say this, but by the time we got to that final act, um, particularly the part where, um, things kind of got turned on their head as far as who was locked in the room. Right. And, and after that part, guys, I had just totally lost me. Um, I, I hate to say this.

That's what it was, man. I got, I hate to say it. But for me, it was a three on ten. I mean, almost a four. Almost a four. So close. But when they got to that point where something happened and I was thinking, well, why didn't the other person try that and do that?

And I was just like, okay. Well, yeah. And there were so many opportunities to make this stop before it got started. Exactly. It just made no sense. Okay. Like, I understand that it's a hectic thing. But, dude, come on.

If you need to do something, fucking do something. Something tells me, Brian, you're going to pull us out of this swamp that we're in, right? Please, tell us you got an higher score. I am going to give it a six. Not bad. Okay. Like I said, I enjoyed it more than I thought I was. To me, it was a nice little slow burn at the beginning.

There was some plot holes. I needed a little bit more backstory on a few things. Right. And I really enjoyed the action sequences, but it always. only gets a six because that that ending just didn't do it for me. Yeah. But it sounds like we're all in agreement that there were parts of this movie that were really, really good.

Oh, yeah. Well, like you were saying, the first half or two-thirds of it was a decent film. Really good, yeah. Yeah, there's a good movie in there. Yeah, there's definitely a good movie in there. It's just kind of fell apart. Yeah. Well, I certainly hope for better things for Ridley's son, because he's definitely one of my

top 10 directors of all time. Cool. So moving on, our second film, Hannah from 2011. His director was Joe Wright, also known for pride and prejudice, Atonement, and an episode of, there you go, Black Mirror.

I'll be down. I've forgotten that was in there. Writer Seth Lockhead, also known for Not Much Else. And co-written by David Farr, known for the ones below, and the TV miniseries The Night Manager, which I've heard really good things about.

Sayoros Ronan performed all of her own stunts. Oh. There is a nod to graffiti artist Banksy when Eric exits the ZOB bus station in Germany. The words, One Nation under CCTV are sprayed prominently on the wall. Oh, that makes sense. And that's a Banksy thing, the UK graffiti artist.

Yeah. Danny Boyle was developing Hannah with screenwriter Seth Lockhead in early 2009, but eventually left the project. Alfonso Curran was also rumored to be circling the project just weeks before Joe Wright signed on to direct. You guys know who he is, right? Alfonso Corron.

No. Gravity and Children of Men are his two figures. Both masterpieces, in my opinion. He's worked with Eric Bannon before. The first line and the final line of the movie are the same. Did you guys notice that? I did. Yeah, I thought that was really cool. Spoken by Hannah, each time after she fires an arrow into her target's torso.

Did you guys notice that part? Yep. And the line was, I just missed your heart. Followed by Hannah aiming and firing a pistol at the camera, her target's point of view, then transitioning to the Hannah title screen. So Hannah, 2011, directed by Joe Wright. He's had a lot of success. problem is none of the other films he's ever directed have I given a shit about.

Atonement, I know, got a lot of recognition during the Academy Awards. You guys remember Atonement? Oh, and she was in Atonement. No. Yeah. Was she? Yeah, I'm looking at her at her IMD viewer. No kidding.

Yeah. Yes, she was. I didn't even know that. So they've worked together before. Apparently. Pride and Prejudice, I didn't give a damn about that. Anna Karenina didn't really care for. I mean, guys, Hannah, in my opinion, this film's a masterpiece.

The photography... Oh, man, the photography, the way that they put it together. The cinematography, that was what I was going to say, dude. That's the big difference between this and Morgan. The cinematography is amazing in this one. Every shot is just... I used to be a photographer, man. So this is...

Every shot is an amazing photograph. And they put a lot of time and effort into... setting up the shots, you know? What did you guys think about the subway scene with, when Eric Bono was being followed by the guys? The other guys in the suits? Yeah. And my first thought was, damn,

never seen a bunch of dudes in suits kick each other's ass in the subway before. Kind of reminded me of the Matrix a little bit. Yeah, it was a little matrix-y, yeah. Well, and even like in the beginning of the movie, when she gets, I guess, I don't want to say taken captive, because I think it was all kind of planned out. But it's almost like,

where they held Wolverine. Yes. You know what I mean? Yeah, definitely. It's like, how did they lay out this fucking place? This can't be a real thing, you know what I mean? And she escapes through these little, like, tunnels and air vents and stuff that are just whole.

in the fucking floor. I guess when the movie starts, she's in Finland or Norway or one of those, one of those, uh, those Nordic countries. And then they come and grab her.

Oh, right, right, right. That was one of the few parts that kind of bothered me was, they didn't exactly show up quietly. I mean, you could see the hell,

you could hear the helicopter rovers and see the light coming through the lines. I'm like, okay, this part is kind of far-fetched. But then they capture her, or like you said, maybe she meant to be captured.

Well, obviously we know she did. Because she was just, and then she ends up there and she's in freaking North Africa all of a sudden. I think originally they were coming for Eric Banna.

Yeah, right. I think that's why they came in so heavy. Yeah. Well, even coming in that heavy, I mean, if the dude is just chilling in the house and A, he lights up a fucking homing beacon. Right.

That's been sitting there for 15 years. Maybe you don't bring a helicopter right on top of his house. Wait a minute. Philip, you actually have some experience here. You were in the military. So if you guys were going to go in and extract somebody in, let's say Iraq or something like that, would you land the helicopter right on the top of their pad or their little house or whatever

and then going to get them? Or would you land it way far away and then come in quietly wearing, you know, night vision goggles? I refueled them. I wasn't fucking special forces or anything. But you would know how it's done. But yeah. I mean, you're not going to drop a helicopter. officer on his head because you can hear that shit from a fucking mile away like literally right and uh so yeah

i think it would have been a little more covert than that that's that's that's kind of fucking apples and oranges at this point you know what i mean kind of a minor thing yeah kind of like morgan said apples and oranges huh so i'm apples and oranges exactly full circle back to morgan no we're talking hannah now that was on purpose what do you what did you think about Hannah, Brian. I enjoyed it. I enjoyed the action scenes. She really did look like, you know, she did her own stunts.

And there's a, I'm a big fan of Eric Banna. I feel, I feel like he just never, he just never got that movie to really get him out there. Not yet. Not yet. Which sucks because he was, he was real big there for a while. And he's been in some big movies. And so I think that saying the name Eric Banna, people are going to know who he, he is. The first

Hulk, by the way. Oh, that's right. He was Hulk, wasn't it? Not the Edward Norton. Yeah, I think that might have hurt his career. That totally hurt his career. Yeah, I think it absolutely did. But I think Eric Vanna is a good actor and I think that he's a good

action actor, as we may have seen in this movie. I really enjoyed Kate Blanchett in this. Oh, I did too. Yes, I'm so glad you brought her up. She was super because as, yeah, because as the movie got as the movie was going along she kind of got a little bit more creepier to me

yeah no like the scene at the end when Hannah Hannah looked out the curtains and she had her face pressed up against the glass yeah what was up with just the constant cleaning of her teeth and just making sure her teeth were like super clean all the time wasn't that kind of weird yeah that

and the shoe the shoe thing the shoe thing and then and the glove thing and then coming out and walking out of the big bad wolf's mouth yeah How good was that? That was fucking cool. That was what I was talking about with the cinematography, dude.

You don't get that. Like, you want to see how to make a visually appealing movie? Like, even if the story wasn't entirely there, which, you know, I think it was pretty good in this one. The cinematography was fucking on point, man. Like, you don't get a whole lot better than that. Coming out of the wolf's mouth and the way that they panned out was perfect. It just made a beautiful photograph. you know. There were definitely

a few things in the movie that were far-fetched. But when you realize that this movie really is a fairy tale, and especially with the visuals and where she ended up at the end and everything. At Grimm's house. It kind of helps you forgive a little bit a few of those kind of... I'm not going to call them plot holes. They're definitely not plot holes, but it's just a few things where it seemed a little far-fetched.

Like, for example, you know, the helicopter thing that I was talking about. Oh, right. I mean, that's something that sort of jumped out for me. Yeah, but that's something that'll happen in every movie. You know what I mean? Yeah, true. They're not going to get taxed. You sacrifice realism for, you know, what looks good on the screen, right?

Or what sounds good. Yeah. What did you guys think about the family that she met up with, the British family that was traveling and the young lady and that she met and everything? Love it. Were they like hippies or something? Oh, they were definitely hippies. A little bit. Obviously, the wife was. And they were definitely road weary because then you noticed the husband and wife were a little tired of each other at that point.

Yeah, and it just kind of was weird that they never questioned that this girl was at every location. The husband, everybody else was like, yeah, whatever. Yeah, that part, I was kind of like, okay, nobody. And then what was it, she went and got a dead rabbit for dinner? Oh yeah, and just laid it out. I would have some questions. I said, I found breakfast. Right?

Yeah, I would have a few questions about this girl. I think that I loved that family. I loved the chick, you know, the girl that was like the same age as her. She kind of had a Willy Wonka vibe to her. She was super fucking weird. Yeah, no, she was totally weird. And like, I mean, even from the moment. that they met, she's like, are you like

M. I.A. Right? Who is like the rapper? And kind of a weird, uncomfortable sexuality to her, right? Yeah. Kind of like this young girl is like making age, years ahead of

where she should be. She was talking about being a lesbian, except that yeah, she would probably marry a guy and not really have sex with a girl. Yeah, she'd be a lesbian, but not the big kind, the supermodel. And that that only holds hands. Right. I thought that She absolutely moved the story along, and she was kind of a little bit of comic relief.

I loved this family that she ran into, the whole family. I think they're super cool. I'd love to hang out with them. Yeah. What did you guys think about the German, the German guy, with the track suits? Okay. Hey, cinematography. The one that kept whistling in the Chemical Brothers song.

Yeah, yeah. Was it a Chemical Brothers? Okay. Okay, yeah. Cinematography, again, dude, cinematography. Those guys were on point, man. It was like this guy and he had either his, there was one scene where he had...

Like his white supremacist little followers. Yeah, his little skinhead followers that had these like big Nazi boots and like the leather jacket and the pants pulled way up high and like a white t-shirt. And then he was wearing like some polo and these little bitty-ass white shorts.

And I mean, there was straight, German, dude. He had this like fucking Tom Brady hair going. And and then there was another scene later in the movie where he was all like

dressed in yellow like Kill Bill. And I don't know man, everything that they did with those guys I loved. You know, I thought that it was just beautiful cinematography again. You know? It was really appealing to

costume choices. Yeah. Very, very appealing to the eye. Yeah, very, very good choices on who they, who they picked to play the different parts in the movie. I think they, I think everyone was perfect for their role. Yeah, I think so too. I mean, everybody got together really well on this one.

I think it was kind of interesting the way that, that, uh, they were questioning the family. Yeah. When they got the family and they put them in those little, uh, those shipping containers. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. And they would go in and ask questions. So what do you guys think?

Do you think they killed them after that? I was just about to ask you that. Did they die? That's a good question. I'm kind of, you know, when I first watched the movie, I was kind of disappointed because I was expecting to see a big payoff there where like they put a gun

to their head and killed them all or something and proved that she, that Marissa was even more evil. You know, and that this dude was even more of a killer. But they kind of leave it to your imagination. So after the first time I watched it, it was kind of like, yeah, it looks like they just kind of let them go. You know, no big

deal. But this time, I kind of think they probably offed them all. You know, I didn't even really think about it. I just assumed that they let them go, I guess. But I know about the characters, I bet they killed them. Yeah, the way Kate Blanchett played that character, especially when she was questioning a boy and reaching for him. Oh, man, that was creepy.

Yeah. Yeah. In my mind, she killed them herself. Right. That's what I'm thinking. That was a revelation, man. I didn't even think about that. It didn't even cross my mind before.

Yeah, the German definitely had no problem with putting the Moroccan guy out. Well, and Kate Blanchett obviously had no problem killing people. So, yeah, I bet you they're dead. So what did you guys think about the abandoned amusement park? It's a creepy fucking scene, again, cinematography. Pretty crazy looking out. There's a creepy fucking scene to run that whole shit in, you know what I mean? Every scene that they had was very...

Creepy? Yeah, it was creepy, and then it was just, it was so polarizing, you know? Right. It was just like, you know, you had just snow and nothing, and then you had... And then you had desert. And then you had desert and nothing, right? And then you had, you know, your grim site where it was all kinds of fairy tale shit, and then you had your amusement park shit.

You know what I mean? And it was all just... beautifully set up for a movie, you know? Yeah, just re-watching it this time, it just really did feel like a fantasy movie. Yeah, like, I watched it the first time and didn't, you know, I was, I was more watching the movie than I was looking at the movie, and this time, you know,

I'd seen the movie before, but just looking at all the backgrounds and everything that it did with the cinematography was just, wow. Well, and it's so, it's kind of interesting how we, I think we chose these two movies pretty well because they're both about young girls that have had their DNA changed basically. I mean, literally exactly what both movies are. But this is an example of how it can be done the right way. And I think Morgan was an example of how it can go way off the tracks.

Yeah, I liked rooting for Hannah the whole time. Oh, yeah, loved her. And I wish that we had been in a situation where we were rooting for Morgan the whole time. Yeah, the story didn't let you. And she's a great little actress. Yeah, no, she was. Story just wouldn't let you read for. I think that she was a sympathetic actress, too.

I think that that totally worked. I was just telling him he should really check out the witch. Yeah, I definitely want to watch it. Yeah, she's got some talent. Well, it was always, it was on my list of things to watch, man. And I actually was about to go see that in the movie. And then some jackass on the radio told me that it wasn't good, but she does some stuff that doesn't work.

I think that's just people that, movies that are slow burn, people just want something to happen. Okay. And this particular chick that's on the radio, and I, you know, I don't want to dogg her because she's super cool. But, yeah, she does not do the slow burn thing, man. She's millennial generation. Give me my shit right now. Okay. So I was reading up a little bit on the abandoned amusement part because I was curious as to whether, you know, where the hell did they come up with this?

I couldn't figure out if it was a real abandoned amusement park or if it was just one that was still open and they filmed when it was closed or something like that. But it really is a straight up abandoned park. It's called Spree Park. There's really a thing, an abandoned amusement park? That's like, why would you even have that? That's like, okay, here you go horror clowns. Come kill people here. It's called Spree Park and it is right outside of Burland, which is a.

exactly where the film, you know, took place. So, okay. So, and it was... When Clown Town said that it was based on true events, that's the kind of place that I would expect it to happen at. It would make a lot of sense, wouldn't it? No, it would make way more sense. Yeah, at one point, they had 1.5 million visitors per year. And kind of toward the end, I was reading that they were down to,

I think, like 200,000 visitors in the entire year, and they had to close it down. So the folks that ran it moved to Lima, Peru. And they took six of the rides with them. The only problem was they put cocaine in one of the sheets in one of the ships on the ride, and they got busted. Oh. So that was kind of the end of their amusement park career. Drug smuggling.

Drug smuggling to Lima, Peru. Why would you smuggle drugs from Germany to Lima? I know, right? That's kind of the reverse of what you would think. But they found a way to do it, and they got busted. So anyway, just kind of a backstory on Spree Park. I really enjoyed her acting in this, especially the scene when she was kind of getting an overload of senses

with the electricity and the TV and everything. Trying to drop the phone with the remote. Yeah. Yeah. I just, I really, she did an excellent job in this movie. I thought that, yeah, she did an excellent job with the playing a little girl, you know, where she was going on the date. Yes.

You know, and I thought that that was a cool scene in the movie. Like, I'm glad that they included that. That's why I kind of liked that other family and the other chick. And it was, it was something that made her more real, you know? Made it more believable, didn't it? She's, she's not just some weapon. She's a real teenage girl, you know? And I really hope my daughters take down someone like that that tries to kiss them.

I really do. Exactly. Well, unfortunately, unless you've spliced their DNA, you know, they may not have quite the strength to do that. At least not in that grand of fashion. One can always hope, though, right? I don't know. I was a little three-year-old earlier today.

She was swinging pretty violently, you know. You might have a young Hannah in the making there, huh? Yeah, she's my jit-to girl, man. Right? She's some ground and pounds. I got to fight with her sometimes. I wanted to ask you real quick, did you get a clockwork orange kind of vibe from some of the scenes? Yeah, I definitely felt some Kubrick influence for sure.

Okay. Yeah, definitely. Cinematography. Yeah, what did you get particularly, Brian? Yeah, that makes sense. I got a little bit of that, the scene, after they had captured the family. Right. And the guys was dancing around on top of the...

That's right, swinging the light around and everything. Yeah. And whistling the chemical brothers. song? Yeah, that was the first thing that popped in my head. That's that cinematography that's so amazing, man. That was, like, I love to see them go, but hated to

say him leave, you know what I mean? Those German guys, like, I was ready for him to die, but they were such like... An integral part of the story, right? Well, yeah, an integral part of the story, and visually, they were just such good villains on the screen, you know? I mean, Kate

Blanchet did the same thing, you know? Yeah, I thought it was super cool, when Kate Blanchett, like, just from the very beginning, okay? So she sent in the alternate Kate Blanchet at the very beginning. And that's when Hannah, like, snapped her neck, you know? I thought that was a fucking cool scene, man. I was like, oh. That was pretty cool.

Yeah, they told her, abort, abort. And that's when they opened the door. Remember, they spun the lock? Yeah, because she's like, oh, no, it's okay. Right. And she was like a little more southern than she knew. needed to be. She was hamming it up a little bit, huh? I really, really wish that I had seen more stuff that I liked from this director. Yeah. Because, yeah, I mean, this film is just fantastic.

But like I said, all the other stuff, like Atonement and all that, just bored the hell out of me. Yeah, his last film bombed. Do what? His last film bombed horribly. Oh, Pan? Yeah. Yeah, I haven't even seen that. I had no desire to. What's called Pan? Yeah, it's a Peter Pan. movie. Oh, I watched that. What did you think? Um, you know, I thought it wasn't bad.

It wasn't, it's not hook. It's no Hannah, right? It's not hook. Fair enough. Well, the one thing that does give me a little bit of hope, Brian. Uh-huh. And here we go back full circle again to the Black Mirror thing. He's actually, uh, the Black Mirror episode that he's, uh, slated to direct hasn't come out yet.

It's, uh, it's going to be called nose dive. And it's going to be the third episode and the new Black Mirror series that's going to be coming out on Netflix. So I'm hopeful that I really enjoy it because it's just so rare that I see a film that I like as much as I like Hannah. Let me rephrase that. It's so rare that I see a film that I love as much as I love Hannah and I don't really care for anything else the filmmaker has done. It happens from time to time. Yeah. But usually, like, if, for example, you were talking about Clockwork Orange, if I watch a Kubrick film, I love every Kubrick film.

If I watch a film that's directed by West Craven, I love every West Craven film. For some reason, you know, this is the only one of his that I've really enjoyed, but I'm hopeful because I really like Black Mirror. So I'm definitely optimistic. but yeah I would love to say that I've enjoyed everything he's done but this is kind of the only thing he's done that I've liked I agree

he's done that I know of right you haven't heard of atonement it got a lot of Academy Awards yeah I know but I've never watched it man I'm terrible with names too like I don't I don't connect directors with different movies

I'm the blank slate guy like I'll go into something with no expectations. And that can be a good thing, man. All right, cool. So we'll go around roundtable and do our ratings or what we thought of the film. I guess I'll get things started off. I kind of started talking about the movie first. I mean, it made a big impression on me.

Make no mistake, 2011 was a really, really good year in filmmaking. If you guys can recall, do you guys ever see Warrior, the one with Joel Egerton and Tom Hardy? Love that movie. Yeah, me too. That was 2011.

I think 2011 was my favorite year in filmmaking after 1999, which was the year that had the Matrix, the original Bear Witch Project was 1999. I mean, there's dozens of great movies that year, but the best of all, I think, was American Beauty with Kevin Spacey. That was in 1999. It did win. It did win.

I got to say, I think that the original, Matrix is classic. I do too, man. That was better than American Beauty, I think so. You know what? Boy, for me, it's tough, dude. For me, it's tough.

And I really love the original Blair Witch Project. Yeah, it was good, too. For what it was, it was perfect. I don't like found footage that much, typically. Do you put it in, you know, Best Picture category? I don't know. I would probably nominate it for sure.

You know what else came out that year? The Sixth Sense. Oh. That was 1999. Yeah, okay. Well, hey, the only reason And Shama on has a career, a career, you know. So I would say 2011 was a great year in film.

I know there were like five or six movies that were really good, but this was definitely in my top three, if not top two. I give Hannah, you know, I never give tens, but I will give this one a 9.5. In my opinion, it's a masterpiece. From start to finish, the people that were in the movie, the way that they photographed it, like you said, the changing of scenery.

I really love the writing. I think that it was one of the best scripts that I've seen put forward in film in a really, really long time. I can't think of too much since this one that's been better written than this movie. So I'll give it an easy 9.5. Wow.

That's some depth coming from you, man. Man, I'm going to give it a... I'm going to stick with a 7. Not bad. I think that it is a highly overlooked movie. And it's mostly on cinematography. Every scene that's shot is gorgeous. I think that the acting is good. The story is pretty good.

It's almost kind of a throwback story, you know, with a little bit of cheese. thrown in there with the Kate Blanchette and she does that very well. Over the top a little bit. Yeah, a little bit over the top. But I like it. You know, they do it well. I think that, you know, you could have done a little more

with the, uh, maybe with the plot or the ending or something. There's, there's, there's, there's just a little bit of something missing. All right. So you feel you feel it didn't quite make it. Yeah. I feel like, I feel like there's something

just not there. I, I love the ending. I love the way that they did that, but I feel like they left something out. I don't know. I mean, it was a really amazing movie going back and watching it again. I didn't get all that from the first time that I watched it.

The first time I watched it, I was like, oh yeah, that was cool. Right. Well, that's a good sign. Yeah. You liked it more the second time than the first time. I definitely liked it more the second time. And it's mostly because of the cinematography. I think that it was shot

just amazing. Brian? I'm going to give an eight. I really enjoyed this movie. Great story. Shot beautifully. The only couple drawbacks I didn't really talk about was the music kind of takes me out of it a little bit. I thought the music was perfect.

I thought it was one of the best soundtracks of any movie I've seen in the last 10 years, dude. I didn't hate it. I didn't hate it. It just took me out just a little bit. There were some scenes where just the music kept going. and it was what i'm i'm i'm thinking i can't i i don't remember any music you're talking about the score or you're talking about like some of the some of the background music like some of the background music okay well i think that the scene okay let me i'll point two things out then brian i'm going to

try to change your mind okay with the exception of the grim house i can't remember any music in the background dude the part when she was escaping from where they had her captured or where we thought She was, quote, quote, captured in North Africa, dude, when she was running down the hallways. But you didn't think that music was absolutely perfect with what was going on? I thought the music was... It reminded me of an older movie called Run Lola Run. Have you guys seen that? Yeah.

It also had that kind of, that really electronic-type soundtrack to it. And for what was going on, I thought it was perfect. I would call that a part of the score. Okay, I'll tell you something else, though. Let me, let me bring this up as well, though. I thought when the family was singing the David Bowman. song together. I thought that fit in really cool. Like Phillips said, it's probably more of the score, not the actual music.

Right. That just kind of took, I didn't hate it. It just, there was just some scenes that just kind took me out a little bit. But one thing I'll say about Hannah, it's a movie every time I watch it, I like it a little bit more. Yeah. That means a lot. And that's only the second time I've seen it and I liked it so much more the second time that I watched it. I kind of want to watch it again just to see. and the one other thing I wish they gave us a little bit more is the scene when they was analyzing her blood right I kind of wanted to know a little bit more about what was in her blood yeah they kind of left that open a little bit didn't that's what I was talking about there was a little too much left like where they didn't explain everything

which you know I guess you don't always have to but yeah you know it might have made for a better movie if you had explained how she was genetically altered But overall, yeah, I give it an 8 out of 10. Well, 8, I mean, 8's super strong. 8 out of 10. Oh, yeah. That's amazing. So, sounds like we all enjoyed it. Oh, yeah.

We definitely liked watching this a lot more than we did Morgan for sure, right? Absolutely. Definitely better than Morgan. Robert Anthony Richard posted on our Facebook page. He said, guys and miss just finished episode 12. That was our Year in View 1960. Oh, yeah, the 1960 show. That was with Marcy.

Thanks, Marcy, for helping us out. And he says, yes, I'm behind, and I promise to be caught up by this weekend. So stop yelling at me. He said a couple of points. If Shama Lama Ding Dong, no, he said, if M. Night Shyamalan does the finale of Bates Motel, the twist will be, Mary and Crane will be Norman's real mother. I know. That's pretty fucked up, huh?

Yeah. He says it's lame. Second, I know this guy is set to be another DC character, but I would love to see The Rock as Lobo. Wait, what does that mean? We talked about Lobo. Brian, you know more about the DC characters that we do, right? Is the Rock set to be somebody?

Yeah, Black Adam. Not Lobo, that. Okay. No. Yeah, he would make a much better Lobo, don't you agree? Okay. So he's going to be. in the dark

dark jessam? No, he's actually going to be in the do you guys know who Shazam is? Yeah, I remember the cheesy I remember the cheesy 70s live action TV show of Shazam. Yeah.

And what were you saying about Shack? I remember Shack. I remember Shack. Yeah, the genie. Not that one? No. Okay, good. Basically Shazam is a

lot. Yeah. Shazam. Shazam is a kid, like he's a child. I forgot the name of the kid, but when he says Shazam, he turns into like this superhero, basically equivalent to like,

basically equivalent to Superman. And Black Adam is his villain. And that's who the Rock's playing. The Rock is going to be a villain? The Rock can't be a villain. Oh yeah. Sure he can, man. The Rock was a gay villain in one movie. Remember?

It was that one with John Travolta in it, Oh, uh, be cool. Be cool. Oh, yeah. That was a fun movie. The Rock can play anybody, dude. If he can play the tooth fairy, he can pull anything off. That is the most lovable guy in Hollywood, man.

I love The Rock. I'll tell you what, between Arnold and the Rock, between the two of those, they could literally play every part in Hollywood, period. Absolutely. Not playing off of each other easily, and it would be great films until the end of time. They could put Eddie Murphy out of Benz. All right. And C, of course, I love the show, and y'all are turning me on, in parentheses, not that way, calm down, Philip.

Calm down Philip. That's what it says. You shouldn't say, calm down Marcy. But then again, Marcy wanted to bottle your voice up and drink it or something, remember? Whatever, I'll take it, man. He's turning Turning Turning on to movies

That I didn't know existed How does one get the copy Of peeping Tom Lance, I think you had the answer To your peeping Tom thing, right? Well, yeah, I mean, if you want to buy the Criterion Collection version of peeping Tom You can buy it for a very moderate

$84.95 on Amazon. So I won't be buying peeping time anytime soon, especially since you guys know I didn't really fucking care for it that much. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We don't want to do that. Okay, so what's the cheap way to do it? iTunes. iTunes. 299 rental. 299 rental on iTunes. If you have Apple. I think it's also on Amazon for like 299 to rent or something like that. Yeah. Again, thanks to everyone who reaches out to us. We love the feedback. As always, you can reach us at our Facebook or

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