The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #25: Dead Set (2008) & Scare Campaign (2016) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: June 6, 2021

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James victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify, go. Welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers in the foulest of land. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Fantasize about fear and glorify gore. Welcome home. This is the podcast that proves that the horror never ends. Each episode, we seek out to review a brand new horror movie, then go back and find a classic work with similar themes.

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The other thing that we may do from time to time is use a few four-letter words. This is a horror podcast, and horror movies tend to be R-rated, so you can pretty much expect us to be too. I'm Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Phillip. How's it going, guys? It's going pretty good. Still here. Well, holiday weekend for us here in the States, right?

Yeah. Thanksgiving. Love to eat our turkey. So we were in the middle of Thanksgiving, but Brian, did you manage to sneak in a cool of the week? Yeah, I got caught with Ash versus Evil Dead. Oh. And I also finished American Horror Story this week. What do you think about it?

Um, I think it's a step up from the past couple seasons, but, uh, I really didn't care for the finale. Yeah, that's kind of about where I was with it. Like, I thought it was pretty good. It's the first one that I, that I've watched all the way through in a long time. But yeah, the finale was kind of, uh, anti-climacting. Yeah, I do like the 10-episode season, though. Yeah, I do too. I don't know.

It was, it was just like, I felt like nothing really happened on that last episode. They were just kind of giving you a piece of the story. But Ash versus Evil Dead still going strong for me. Still funny. Yeah. I haven't started the second season yet. You haven't even started it, huh? Not the second season.

I watched the first one, and it's definitely should start the second season because it was awesome. Brian, I'm at the point now where they just met that character named Ball. Oh, okay, I'm a little bit past that, so I won't give no spoilers, but it does take some interesting turns. Cool. Yeah, it's a lot of fun. And you said you've been watching that other movie Stan versus Evil, right? Yeah, I've still only, I'm only on the first two episodes. It's actually, the season's already over already.

Wow, that was quick. Yeah, I think it was only eight-episode season. So probably have that finished by next week. You're testing that one out, huh? Yeah. Yeah, my cool of the week was also Ash versus the Evil Dead. Nice. And I've gotten to the part.

We're not spoiling too much to tell you that his car at one point becomes possessed. The Necronomicon ends up inside of his car and sort of takes it over. These teenagers, they kind of take it for a bit of a joy ride. And it ends up taking them for a joyride. It's pretty good. Pretty well-done show. Yeah. I haven't watched a whole lot except the movies.

I did watch that movie The Monster. Oh, yeah? Yeah. And it was a little bit deeper than I expected it to be. It's kind of a movie more about an addiction than it is, the horror movie. What? Yeah. That's what the monster is.

is. You're kidding. Yeah. Which is why the, which is why the mom in the movie is so hateable. Oh, wow. I had no idea. I thought it was just a mother-daughter in danger.

She's kind of a deadbeat and an alcoholic, but she still loves her daughter. Right. And the monster is like the addiction. She has to sacrifice herself to this addiction in order to save her daughter. Man, well, I've heard a lot of good things about it.

Yeah. It was a lot deeper than I expected it to be. I kind of didn't get it until about halfway through the movie, and I kept going, why do they keep flashing back to stuff in the middle of these really intense scenes? And the more I watched it, the more I was like, oh, well, I guess that makes sense. Started making a little bit more sense. Yeah, yeah. But it was pretty good.

It was worth watching. That's really all got me. That was a bad end. Other than a whole lot of turkey, huh? Yeah. I smoked a turkey and it came out pretty awesome. I took the kids and the dogs up to the parents' house. Yeah?

And hung out. I've been playing single dad because my wife's been working nonstop. She's yours for retail. Well, I've had family in town, guys. So my brother-in-law was here and a niece. And probably drank my body weight in beer every day for the last four days. which is why I'm really nervous, Mike. Take a break.

Let's see, we had a deep fried turkey. We had a roast turkey. We had, you know, all the fixings. And then we didn't want to just throw the grease out because we bought the big, the big three, the big three gallon thing of peanut oil. Yeah. So we didn't want to just waste it, you know, after just cooking only the turkey. So we made some out of this world hot wings Saturday night. Yeah.

Okay, cool. That was really awesome. No, I guess actually that was Friday night. And then Saturday we ended up having brisket. So, yeah, I'll be getting up at 4.30 and hitting the gym tomorrow for you. Yeah. I haven't perfected a lot of smoking things yet, but a turkey is definitely one of them, man. You got it down.

That's one of my things, and it is kicked ass. And Brian, you said you had family in town as well, Brian? I still have family here. Oh, boy. They say Ben Franklin famously said that House guests are like fish After about three days they start to really smell All right, cool, so that's our cool of the week

You boys ready to take our little trip that we do every week down to the trailer park To the trailer park You ready, Brian? Let's do it All right Okay, our first trailer we're going to talk about is Tank 432 starring Rupert Evans,

Steve Gary, Deidre Mullins, Michael Smiley, and others. Directed by Nick Giuseppe. Well, what do you guys think? I've never heard of any of these people,

and I had no idea what was going on during the trailer. Yeah, it's really confusing. It's like, it kind of reminds me of that movie, uh, Fury. But with a little,

maybe like, some kind of, paranormal type events happening. I don't know. Like a horror twist to it. Yeah, I checked out the poster for this movie. It says it's dog soldiers meets Jacob's Ladder. I don't know if you guys ever checked any of those movies out.

Oh, man. So in other words, these people are already dead maybe? Yeah. Did they give the twist away just in saying that or what? They might have. I don't know. It was very, the trailer to me was confusing, but also it didn't really give much.

away. Yeah. Right. But a couple, the director, Nick Giuseppe, a couple of movies that he did was Kill List and sightseers, and I've seen those before. Those are pretty good movies. Well, that's actually, you

just brought up a good point, because I noticed they flashed at the beginning. It said produced by Ben Wheatley. Yes. And so I figured it, and it kind of had that Ben Wheatley, you know, surrealistic look to it a little bit, wouldn't you think?

Yeah. And another movie, Nick Giuseppe also directed, was a recent movie that came out, High Rise. Yep. Yeah, so he must work with Wheatley quite a bit then. Yeah. And from what I've checked out, this movie, I think, is currently out right now.

I don't know if it's on iTunes or anything, but it says it's out now. All right. Well, I'll have to check it out because, I don't know. I like everything I've seen that Ben Wheatley's done. I mean, that one, a field in England was a little far out there. Have you guys seen that one?

I've seen part of it. Yeah, that's the thing. I couldn't sit through the whole thing at once. I had to watch it over like three sittings. It was just so fucking bizarre and surrealistic, and it was all filmed in black and white. Yeah. And I couldn't tell were these people all on mushrooms and just hallucinating this shit? Or was this stuff really going on?

Yeah, I might give this one a shit. try. It looks like it's worth watching. Although I haven't recognized this single movie y'all talked about. Ben Wheatley, you've got to check that out. I haven't seen High Rise yet, though. Have you seen it, Brian? No, I heard it's kind of out there, too.

Yeah, Kill List was a really good one. It had a twist at the end, but it wasn't like a cheesy twist. It was fairly well-earned, I thought. Definitely. It may sound familiar, but just from the name. Yeah, it's good. It's good. you ought to check a couple of his movies out.

I think you'd enjoy him. Sounds like these two guys worked together quite a bit then. Yeah. Okay, what do we got here? The next one is cute little buggers. Oh, no. This one stars Carolyn Monroe, Danny Thompson, Angela Holmes, Gary Martin, and others.

Directed by Tony Joppae. Wow. Who in the hell is Tony Joppa? I don't know, but... Pretty sure they need a holy hand grenade in this one. Dare I say this movie is so bad that I kind of want to watch it because it might be a little good. So bad it's good. I don't know.

It actually looks really funny. Yeah. But yeah, it also looks really bad. Yeah, that whole aspect kind of has me in truth. that I think, I don't know, maybe, maybe wrong here, maybe they was going for that on purpose. I think they were. I think it's pretty safe to say that a lot of that was intentional.

It's definitely horror comedy and it is definitely British. Well, I was telling Philip that that was some of the best CGI since Range 15 that I've seen. Okay, this one is, uh, I don't think there's much to say, about this one. This one's due out February 10th. Right. No, but it looked like,

it looked like a lot of fun. And then the way that they had the, the girls tied up and they were kind of, it was almost like a weird rabbit rape. Yeah. Okay. So from the, from the preview,

it looks like maybe some aliens take over, uh, these rabbits. And, uh, and, and, and,

and so now they're like alien rabbits and they're attacking everybody, right? So, that's the, Cute little buggers. Yeah. Anyway, it said that at one point that their whole purpose was to procreate and that it shows like these naked, hot-ass women chained up in this room. And I guess these rabbits are procreating with the women.

But then they were like crawling around inside of them. And then you saw those, I don't know, it looked like bugs, bugs or spiders legs. And so when they open their mouths to kill people, it kind of looks like the vampires from, uh, the vampires from, uh, That new show. Stranger Things. No, no, no. I got the stranger things by it out of the way their mouth opened. But I was thinking more along the lines of the one that, Gierma Datoro.

Oh, the Strain. It was like the Sprain, the Vampires from the Strain. So they meet the bunnies. It was kind of a mishmash of everything. What were your thoughts on it, Brian? Is this one that you're going to maybe watch it later on a Saturday night? Oh, definitely. I have a feeling this is going to pop up on Netflix.

Oh, yeah. I'm sure it will. I kind of want to watch it. Oh, I can't wait to see it. If it pops up, I'm definitely watching it. I can't wait to see it. Yeah, this looks like that Joe Bob Briggs would have shown on his old show or the USA up all night. Yeah, definitely.

Another movie that is probably going to pop up on Netflix, ice cream truck. Ice cream truck. I did not know what to make of that one. This one stars Deanna Rousseau, Emil Johnson, John Redliner, and others, directed by Megan Friel's Johnston. Okay. Yeah. It's got kind of an old-school ice cream truck and the old-school ice cream guy. Look at the promo poster.

Yeah, it's like an old VW bug that's an ice dream truck. I mean, it's not a VW bug, but it's like the old-school milk trucks. That's what it looks like. And, man, I'm saying if you want to see some creepy-ass ice cream trucks, come to Houston. Because the ones that drive around my neighborhood are like just child molester white vans with ice cream stickers on the side. I have a real issue with those guys driving around my neighborhood. Yeah, watching this trailer, did you guys get the whole neighborhood's kind of weird? type vibe

that this lady moves to? Oh, maybe. Yeah, I kind of got a vibe of like that TV show that was on for a couple of years called Desperate Housewives. Okay. It kind of felt that way to me. And then that's like the ladies wanted to sort of

misbehave a little bit. And like, was it those pool boys or lawn boys or whatever came over? And it's like, hey, let's party. It's like a new, Stepford Wives looking neighborhood. Yeah, for sure. That has a whole lot of weird drama

going on in it. Or the new, the new movie that Key and Peel did, the one that's coming out that we reviewed a couple of weeks ago? Oh, get out, get out? Yeah, yeah. Did you get that vibe a little bit? Yeah, a little bit.

Yeah, it's interesting. Yeah, this one is, I guess. Yeah, this one's duo. It's definitely. Right. But if I come across it, I may watch it. I'll watch about anything, though. Yeah, there's no set.

least date on this. This one comes out next year. Sometime next year, huh? Yeah, probably not buying a ticket to the theaters, but if it pops up on Netflix, I'll watch it. Yeah. Like Ryan said, I think there's a pretty damn good chance. It's going to pop up on Netflix. Yeah. Okay. Our next one is abattoir. I hope I'm saying this right. Abitoir. We were doing the same thing. How do you pronounce this? That's how I said it. I don't know if it's a real word. This one stars

Jessica Lodin's John Anderson, Dayton, Callie, and the great Lynn Shea. Yes, I noticed that. This is directed by Darren Lynn Bousman, who's done Saws 2, 3, and 4, 11, 11, 11, and

the Mother's Day remake. Okay. All right. Well, yeah, he's definitely got some credibility for sure then. Yeah. It's probably the best trailer out of them that we watched. Right, as far as straight up actual horror movie.

It's pretty interesting. So I guess it looks like they have a bunch of different houses where these tragedies had occurred and then wherever the tragedy occurred in a hallway or a room or whatever, somebody was buying them up right after it happened and then cutting that whole piece out of the

house to apparently make up this larger, gigantic, haunted house. kind of American horror story-esque from, uh, like the hotel from the hotel. Yeah, so like a haunted hotel kind of thing. Yeah, which was based on the guy in, in Chicago that actually built the horror hotel.

Right, yeah. The devil, devil in the white city or whatever it was called. Yeah, I got, I got that vibe a little bit too. Uh, you're looking forward to this one, Brian? Yeah, I, uh, because I, I, I want to see the actual house, what's going on in the house. Yeah, right. See, this is one, I think, not knowing when the release date is or whatever, I really think this one will come out in the theaters and it looks like it's going to be pretty good. I'm kind of excited about it.

Yes, this one's actually coming out really soon, December 9th. Oh, nice. I don't think we have anything else planned for that week, guys, that I'm aware of. Next week, which one are we doing next week? I know The Exorcist was the, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, the, uh, uh, the. classic film. Oh, awesome. What is it called?

Incarnation. Yeah, incarnate, right? Incarnate, yes. Okay, yeah, all right, perfect. And then so maybe we'll consider this one the following week? Yes, definitely. It looks really interesting. Of course, I think we're definitely all reserved for what we're going to cover on the 16th, right?

Definitely. And, uh... Oh, that's our rogue one. Yeah, kind of breeze through these. Yeah, kind of breeze through these really quick. just so we can get to the Rogue one third trailer that just recently came out.

I honestly, I didn't need to see a second or third trailer. I was in on the first one. Right. But it looks awesome. Yeah. Well, all you really had to say was Star Wars and I mean, I'll be there. But the trailer, I mean,

the way that they do the trailers, they've kind of nailed it. And it starts out with that slow Star Wars music. And it gives me goosebumps every time. Yeah, the one thing that really intrigued me is I think we're going to actually see what the Death Star does from the planet's perspective. Really? Because usually we, I think there was a little shot in the trailer where I believe you just see the planet being destroyed from the planet's perspective. Instead of usually just seeing the planet just, you know, being taken out.

Yeah. Okay. And I'm just, I'm really interested. This, this movie just, it looks like it's, it's got a ton of characters that look really interesting that they're introducing in this movie. Yeah. Well, and they kind of have to do that because, I mean, the only, sounds like the only person from any of the other Star Wars movies that they have in this is Darth Vader. So they kind of have to do something, you know? And the only thing I'm a little confused is they said we wasn't going to see the force in this movie.

And I believe, oh, somebody helped me with his name. The character, the Asian actor. Oh, that guy. I don't know what the name is. I'm not familiar with any of the actors in this movie except for the... Forrest Whitaker. Of course. Yeah, but he's the only one I recognized.

Well, the lady who was in the theory of everything. She's the... Felicity Jones. Yes, Felicity Jones. She's getting to be a really, really big name right now. Yes. She's actually going to be in that...

What's the movie with Liam Neeson playing the monster? I think it's called When a Monster calls, right? Yeah, she's going to be in that one. And that one... He's the tree monster, kind of like Groot? Yeah, they push that one back because they're talking a ward for that movie. Ah, okay. Yeah.

But back to Star Wars. Yeah, I didn't need to see. You just had to give me that first little teaser, and I was in. Yeah. It's a song. It kills me. It does, man. The real song.

It gets me every time. And that was our last trailer. All right. Cool. So does that mean it's news time now? Yes, sir. Got some breaking news, right? Some top stories.

Our first headline here is John Wick director, Chad Stolski is going to direct the Highlander remake. Like remake from the original? Yes. They are, from what I read, they are completely redoing the revamping the series. I'm down with that. Oh, starting it all over again, huh? I totally watch that. So no Christopher Lambert this time.

I don't, you know, how they usually try to remake things. They try to stick them in as a cameo. Right. I can see him popping up as a different character. I don't know. Maybe he does the, why am I not thinking of nobody's name? Now, wait a minute. You think he may play the Spanish Scotsman?

yes I can see them doing that yeah yes might work right or at least putting them in as a cameo yeah I've actually watched it recently for me it still holds up it was it was one of those movies that when I was younger I watched a lot yeah it's a good movie but I'm not mad at I'm remaking it like I'm kind of excited about it yeah because I did not care about any of the sequels yeah or the TV show I totally watched the TV show

Like religiously Wasn't it good Didn't they In the last movie Didn't they have Didn't they combine the two Or did anybody see any of those movies? I'm not really sure man

I remember seeing the original film Which was great And then I saw one that was called The Quickening Which I think was maybe like the second one Okay But I think after that I kind of gave up I didn't really watch the TV show too much

Yeah I think this is a movie that's kind of ripe one of those movies ripe for a remake so and the director Chad Stolsky he's only directed two movies and both of them are John Wick

one was awesome and the other one from what I heard is basically we get more of that awesomeness that we got from the first one I hope so I mean John Wick was pretty awesome and man

the Highlander could go with that kind of action sort of sword fighting stuff man it's been a long time since i've seen a movie like that yeah and it's got a good concept with these guys fighting basically through all these generations until there's only one yeah well yeah i mean i think that had probably one of the greatest freaking stories of the 80s and uh but it wasn't it wasn't like the Goonies were, I kind of don't want them to mess with it. It was, uh, it's, it's something I don't mind them remake and I think it'd be cool to watch now. Yeah, I totally agree.

Okay. Um, previously we had talked about how T&T was, uh, putting out a let the right one in series and Tales from the Crypt reboot. They are also adding a snowpiercer. Oh yeah. I heard about that. Yeah. Um, I'm really interested because,

that was a great movie right there. So what are they doing with it now? They're making it into a series. You're like a TV series? Yes. Okay. And I'm really, because I'm really interested because you never really got, when you've seen the movie,

that's like years into them already on the train. Yeah. Who's going to be the main character, though? Because I'm telling you, I think the guy, I don't remember his name, the one that played freaking Captain America

Chris Evans Chris Evans He's kind of the one That made that movie for me Yeah They haven't made any casting But you know He's not gonna show up

So You don't think so? No I mean maybe I don't know Because he doesn't even Pop up on agents of shield So I don't know

Yeah they don't show a whole lot On agents of shield Besides just the Well shield themselves and then I guess now the the ghost writer for what I understand is in the new season? The biggest character to show up was

Nick Fury and that wasn't, that was like in the earlier seasons. So I doubt he would even show up on this series. I mean, it's a possibility but as far as the series goes, I'm pretty interested in it because I would

like to see the beginnings of what happened for them to even be on this train. Yeah, that's true. Yeah, it wasn't, correct me, if I'm wrong, wasn't Tilda Swinton in that movie as well? She was amazing in that movie. Yeah, and she was like super creepy in that too, just like she's super creepy and Dr. Strange, right? Yes. Oh, yeah.

Yeah, so she's getting to be pretty typecast as the super, super weird chick and everything she's in. Yeah, but I mean, yeah, she's great in pretty much everything I've seen her in. Right. So have you, we're talking about snow piercer. That reminds me of a, of a new movie that's out that's getting rave reviews from everyone that I've heard speak about it. Called Train to Busan. You guys heard of that one? No.

Yeah, it's a South Korean film. Okay. Oh, is this the zombie movie? This is the Zombies on a Train movie. Yes, I have heard of this movie. I tell you what. Yeah, supposed to be really good. There's motherfucking zombies on this motherfucking train.

Yes, I have been hearing a lot about that. Yeah, that's when we've got to check out. A lot of people are telling me it's definitely going to be in our top ten of the year for sure. Okay, I'm definitely going to watch it. Okay, what do we got here? Legendary Pictures has picked up the film rights to Dune. No. You guys see another Dune?

I actually growing up, I like that movie. I mean, it's not the greatest movie, but I like a lot of the concepts in it. Yeah, the movie's okay. I'm not a huge David Lynch fan, but have you guys ever seen that film called Jotteroski's Dune? No. This filmmaker, he made a film,

I think it was called the Sacred Mountain or something like that. makes a lot of really trippy movies and he was going to actually direct, he wanted to direct Dune, but he went so nuts about trying to spend too much money. All these people that he wanted to have show up in it and stuff like that

and he was going to go like 10 times over the budget. And they told him, well, you got to scale it back a little bit and he refused to do it. So obviously the film never got made. But it kind of looked like his version was going to be in many ways superior. Well, I would imagine if you're going to spend

that much more money that you probably make it superior. Well, Dune has a huge cult following in the sci-fi community. It's a big series of problems. Definitely a classic. I

know that I've seen it a long time ago, but I'm telling you I couldn't remember anything really from it right now. Except Sting. You remember Sting? Sting? Yeah, and Captain Jean-Luc Picard was in it. Was he? Yeah.

And Kyle McLaughlin. There were a lot of big-name actors in it. Yeah, I love this movie. Sting, yeah. That stink from the police. I actually might watch this movie tonight. I own this movie. Yeah?

Yeah, I was a big fan in this movie growing up. I know it's not great, and there's a lot of things if they remake that could be done better. But it has just so many interesting characters in it for me. and I always love the weapon they had in there where they use their voice in certain words or more powerful than others. Yeah, so I'm really interested in to see where this goes. I mean, it might, you know, I might not even get made.

They just got the rights. They didn't say how far it was going into it, but I can see this being a lot better than the original. Well, yeah, there's definitely a fan base out there for it, No doubt about that. Well, yeah. Well, we thought there was a fan base for a Rocky Horror Picture Show. Right.

I think that really didn't go over very well. Yeah, the live one kind of bombed, didn't it? Yeah, I think so. Did you guys watch that? No, I don't think I need to. I didn't, but I heard it was not great. Yeah, without Tim Curry is Dr. Frankenfurter, I think I'll pass. Yeah.

Okay. The new Tomb Raider movie will show an untested Laura Croft on her first mission And this one's going to star Swedish It Girl Alicia Vacander And directed by Oh gosh

I can't say his name Roar Uthag Huh sounds like a good Norse name Yeah and this day They already have a release date It is March 16th, 2018 is what we're going to get a Basically it's a prequel

Tomb Raider Okay I think they could totally pull a Tomb Raider movie off Like as a Like a horror thriller I think that that would be cool It's probably not what they're going to do Yeah I would love to see a more

Serious Laura Croft movie Yeah I think that'd be fun And I looked up Alicia Vikanda She is not bad on the eyes Well, to play, you know, Laura Croft, you kind of have to be not bad on the eyes.

She's not the one that was in X. Machina, is she? No. Okay. I believe not. Okay. Let's see here. The Strangers 2 is probably not going to happen now. Okay.

I'm fine with that. Yeah. I mean, it was all right, but it wasn't that good. Okay. run through a quick thing about it. Relativity was, relativity has bought rogue pictures. Rogue pictures had a lot of financial problems when they bought it.

Right. And that adds to the problems of it not getting made. And also the original director, Brian Bertino, who direct The Monster, which we talked about that movie earlier in the show. He said he is no way attached to the sequel. So, yeah, I'm going to say Strangers 2 is dead, not happening. Yeah, that's, like I said, that's fine with me, man. I wasn't a super huge fan of that movie.

I thought it was just kind of your basic run-of-the-mill home invasion. Nothing really special about it, you know? Yeah, it was cool, but it wasn't. What? Nothing special. And our last little bit of news here, did you guys know they was, Netflix was making a Lost in Space series?

no what yes you're kidding is it going to be a like a cheesy 50 style retro type of show or do you know i don't know as far as that i know they just released cast um the cast includes a lot of these people i don't know so i think they're fairly going with uh people unknown um molly parker toby stevens Maxwell Jenkins Taylor Russell And the only one I recognize out of this group is Parker Posey Oh, okay, sure

And she is actually I've seen a little bit of the original show She's there switching the gender of Dr. Smith Oh, so that's who she's going to be? Yes Huh, he was the only interesting character In the TV show for me

Yes, so I thought the kid was a little shit You know? Yeah, did. Do you guys ever see the movie? It's... Unfortunately. I have, but I was small. It's been so long since it came, since it came out,

and since they did the TV series and all that, that I think that, you know, remaking it as a modern-day science fiction thing might be kind of cool. Yeah, and I think Netflix is perfect for this kind of show. Yeah, I'll definitely watch that. It's probably going to be pretty awesome. Yeah, they are shoot. Go ahead.

No, didn't they refer to this as, uh, as kind of like the quote unquote space family Robinson or something like that yeah exactly the same story that makes sense yeah i don't know i'm not i'm not i'm not believe it or not as much of a sci-fi fan as i am guys i'm not too excited about this one no you know but we'll see we'll see netflix doing it it'll be all right yeah i kind of feel like netflix has been hitting it out of park lately yeah with a lot of their shows oh yeah they really have been man yeah um we have until 2018 to

check out if we want to check out and that is all the news. I take controls how that works. That's how it works,

man. You're our resident listener feedback, Guvra. All right. So, listener feedback

time. We got Robert Anthony Richard, art from Callie and Josh Youngblood all got

T-shirts. Yeah, yeah, they've all won t-shirts by giving us five-star iTunes reviews. Yeah, way to go, guys.

I actually was wearing my horror returns t-shirts this weekend, and I totally should have taken a picture of it. Yeah, I should have. I should have, thank you for the shirt, by the way. I got mine. I wore mine. I probably should have took a picture, too. Yeah.

Well, way to go, host of the show. We got a box right here full of them. There you go. Listeners, all you need to do to be considered is go to iTunes, leave us a four or a five-star review or leave us whatever stars you feel we deserve. Even if it's a one. If we suck, let us know. Yeah, let us know.

You may not get it red. You may not get a T-shirt if it's a one. But the idea is to get it red on the air. So you two can win a T-shirt. We're rolling out a big contest next month. What you suggested last time, Brian, where whoever comes closest to picking our collective number one and our collective least favorite film of the year,

we'll have a couple of different prizes available for the two or three that win that, right? Yeah, I am still working out the details, but definitely by next show I will have that contest figured out. Prizes and all. Awesome. Well, thanks, guys, for the t-shirts. I think they're pretty awesome. Sounds like they do, too, if they posted pictures of them.

Yeah, cool. Way to go, guys. also I want to mention again the Texas Frightmare weekend what weekend is that May that's I think May I believe May 4th through 6 May 4th through 6th so Sting apparently the wrestler not the singer not the singer not the Dune Star I don't know I'm not sure why he's there but Sting's going to be there so that should be cool along with a plethora of other people including a bunch of the stars from 31.

Right. Stranger Things. Rob Zombies horror film. The Stranger Things, guys, 11's going to be there. Is the good kid with teeth going to be there? I think so. Yeah, I'm totally psyched about that.

We've got to get an interview with him. So we're going to try to get an interview with some of these people and see what happens. And, you know, if you guys like it, let us know. Yep, we will be there. And I think that's about it for listener feedback this week. We had our t-shirt people that were very happy. And that's it. All right, cool.

So now it is time for what we like to do. We call here on the Horror Returns our featured attractions. So it's time now to discuss the week's featured attractions. This week we're going to turn on the hidden cameras as we cover Scare campaign, which is the brand new film from Australia that we watched this week, as well as the 2008 BBC miniseries Dead Set. We went a foreign movie this year. Well, foreign to us, Americans anyway, right?

All right, so as always, we'll start with trivia. First movie we're covering, which I consider it a film, about a two-and-a-half-hour film, although it showed up as a miniseries on BBC television in 2008. is directed by Yam DeMange, who's known for numerous BBC television series. Writer, you ought to recognize this name, Brian Charlie Brooker. Does that ring a bell? Yeah, Black Mirror?

Yep, he of Black Mirror fame. And personally, I didn't even know he wrote this until I watched it and read through the credits. So I was very pleasantly surprised. When Dead Set first aired on Channel 4, the presenter introduces the show saying this show contains very strong language and scenes of horror, which some viewers may find disturbing. The show is best suited to widescreen viewing, surround sound, and should be watched in a darkened room. So how's that for an intro? Pippa's fake, you guys remember Pippa? Oh, yeah.

Yes, her fake eviction was actually filmed on the same night as Belinda's eviction from Big Brother 9. All of the studio audience featured in Pippa's eviction are members from Belinda's actual eviction. The extended eviction, which wasn't shown in the actual program, was cut down shorter to hide shots of the BB9 I logo and signs held by the audience among BB9 housemates. So it was kind of interesting the way that they sort of mixed the actual reality show with this. And, you know, it seemed like they kind of pulled it off. I don't know, Brian, I've never watched any, I don't watch one of these reality shows. And I've never seen Big Brother U.S. or UK. Have you seen any of those?

No, not really my thing. Yeah, me neither. I'm a little familiar with it. What are your thoughts on Dead Set? I've always been told I should check this out. and I'm actually, I'm really glad that we watched it. I really enjoyed this. This kind of actually,

I wish it went a little bit longer than the, it was five episodes. Yeah, me too, man. The first episode was like 45 minutes and the other ones were only like 25 minutes each. Yeah, and it just kind of breezed along. Yeah. I really enjoyed the whole concept of them having this reality show.

Right. And the zombie apocalypse is breaking out outside, and they have no idea what's going on. Yeah, that was a pretty interesting way of presenting it, I thought, man. Yeah, and very interesting characters, you know, because a lot of characters seem to be one way when they was filming the show. Right. And completely like the one guy, he was a complete douchebag when they were filming. Oh, you're not talking about the producer.

Yeah, you're talking about one of the actions. Oh, no, that, yeah. Now, that guy was, that guy was an asshole. He was an asshole right till the end, right as he was getting killed. He was still talking shit. Those people that you love to watch die. Yeah. No, I'm talking about the guy that was one of the cast.

He was kind of like a douchey. I don't really know how to describe him. Kind of like the preppy. preppy boy. Yeah, he was basically like the asshole of the house. The younger dude with the ideas or the one with the gun? Uh, the one with the gun. Okay, yeah.

Yeah, he, he, he had, for me, he had a complete role reversal when you really got into the, the whole zombie apocalypse. Right. Which I, I didn't not expect that from him and, uh, the blonde chick, that was kind of his girl. You know, she's, she seemed a little bit more tougher.

Yeah, Veronica. Yeah, as the show got on, she kind of had more of a tough mentality than I expected her to have. Okay. I thought she were, it was a redhead chick. She was like Irish. Yeah, she was. Yeah, hot. Definitely easy on the eyes.

A dumb ass. Uh-oh, Brian. Brian. Brian. Yes. What section? What section are we going into? Stupid people.

Stupid people, but I'm going to reserve that for our main movie. All right. There was a dumbass in that movie. Well, asshole producer was kind of a dumbass too. Right. But she was, she was, this chick was as ditsy as they come. Yeah, she was saying the dumbest shit. What was she saying about the lights?

The light machines, as she called them, or? I don't know. She said some of the dumb things that were to keep track of them. But yeah, overall, I liked how a lot of the. characters kind of stepped up in a way that you didn't expect to especially

the main girl, final girl, basically. I thought she was a goner early in the series. Right. Yeah. They made it look that way. But she was the only one that I was really rooting for through the whole thing, her and her boyfriend. Because the rest of them are just a bunch

of asshole reality stars who probably deserve to die. just saying oh that one guy was he was really creepy the guy that called gollum oh yeah he was super creepy wasn't he yeah well it's no wonder

that everybody else talks shit about you because you're fucking creepy right yeah that was joplin I think his name was joplin but you're right they all called him gollum behind his back he was fucking weird he's like spouting

off, you know, Shakespearean lines and shit just randomly. Yeah, well... It's twice the age of any of the people in this house. I'll tell you one thing that I really didn't like about this movie. Actually, I did like it, but it creep me the fuck out, and it always does, is anytime you've got fast zombies, fast zombies for me, you're a fucking goner. Right.

You have slow zombies, you can stay away from them for a little while. That's why I like The Walking Dead because they have the slow zombies. And the zombies are definitely an issue, but they're not the only issue. Sure. And they're still going to be survivors because the zombies are slow and stupid. Right. This one, they're fast. It's like World War Z, you know?

Oh, yeah. Yeah. Much faster than they are just in any other movie that I've seen. There's not a whole lot of, you know, self-sacrifice to save the human population for that, because there's no more human population left. They're all dead. Yeah, no shit. I thought there for a little bit that it was going to kind of take a 28 days later turn with the military, with those two cops that showed up.

Oh, yeah. But they fucking, they were a joke. They were gone in no time. Not too much happened there to be too worried about. Yeah, the whole fear focus of this was definitely the zombies, no doubt about it. Yeah. Well, and they did a pretty good job of it. Right.

What did you guys think about the way that they did mix the comedy in there? Like the producer when he had to take his shit in the bucket and got it all over his pants and stuff like that? I thought the producer was a great character, man. He really was, wasn't he? Yeah, he was an asshole and you love to see him get killed. And he did, he was the catalyst behind the whole thing. You got to have that guy, you know what I mean? Yes, he was a super, because he still didn't even know the chick, he still didn't even know the chick's name.

The girl that worked for him? Oh, oh. No, the other one. Final girl? Yeah, he still, throughout all of this, still cannot remember her name because he does not care to know her name. Right. But I thought it was funny that how he, speaking of Pippa, how he just was talking about how awful she was, how horrible her voice sounded. And that's the one he gets locked in the room with.

Exactly. Exactly. Okay. To be fair, she was a dumbass. Yeah, but to be fair, there's worse things than being liked in a room with Pippa, too. Oh, yeah. If he had acted just a little bit differently, you know, you know, things might have gone different.

But, I mean, if he has to take a piss, right. And there's a zombie outside the door, and she is losing her fucking mind because he has to piss in a bucket. Okay, it's time to chill out. Right, fair enough. Your hotness is wearing off because you're so fucking stupid. Fair enough. What did you guys think about the side story there with Rick? Wasn't that the name?

Her boyfriend that was trying to come and find her. Oh, yeah. Yeah, that was a pretty cool side story where they got in the boat and everything. That was cool. I kind of wish they'd explored it a little bit. Yeah, that's the problem. The series was just way too short. And this thing could have gone twice as many episodes easily.

Which is, okay, so I didn't realize it was a series. I thought it was just a movie and I was like, damn it, dude, this thing is two and a half hours long. Yeah? You are pushing my attention span. But having, knowing that it's a series now, okay, that makes more sense. And I do kind of wish that they would have explored that section a little more. Because I thought that the chick that he got stuck with there for a little while.

Right. She was a cool character. And I mean, she was obviously tough as nails, you know. Yeah. And, you know, she really didn't last. long to show. Right. Yeah, like she came and saved his ass and brought him to where he needs to be. And then they were like, okay, well, your usefulness is done. So we're going to kill you all. Yeah, she got, boy, she got bit. Yeah, I did. Go ahead.

No, I was just going to say, it wasn't at all like in the Walking Dead where sometimes they're kind of squeamish. Yeah. You know, she said, she said, do it, do it. And he's like, he's like, okay, bye, boom. Yeah, that was, that was. seasons versus two and a half hours. You got to do what you got to do. Yeah, that was the only thing I, that was the only thing I didn't like. He just kind of got over things really quickly.

Seemed that way, didn't it? Yeah, because, you know, she, she even mentioned that, you know, we should have stayed at the farmhouse. Right. And I'm kind of like, yeah. Yeah, if, if they would have stayed, you know, she wouldn't have got bit.

And I just felt like he, kind of, I don't know, his whole art kind of changed, like, instantly, because before, he wasn't even trying to kill nothing. Right. Right. And now he's, he's instantly taking her out after she gets bit. Yeah. And it just kind of, I don't know, I felt, I kind of got brushed over real quickly.

Yeah. They definitely rushed that whole character development thing of it. You know, although at some point, you got to go, I mean, I know he's trying to save his girlfriend and all, but, uh, man, I'm not running into a war zone to save a bunch of reality stars. Sorry. Not going to happen, huh? No. Well, I think, I think we're way too spoiled with having the Walking Dead on now. Yeah. Where they can take all these hours upon hours upon hours to develop the characters and stuff. And I've never been a huge zombie movie person. Right. I like them. Uh-huh. But they've never been my favorite. Oh, they've always been one of my favorite.

They've never, ever been my favorite. The Walking Dead has completely changed that. It is completely immersed me in the series, and it is my favorite show on TV, and it will be for a long fucking time. Yeah. So. You won't get too much argument from us. You know, we love that show as well. So in this movie, I had to compare it to it because you cannot compare it to it.

Is it as good as The Walking Dead? Of course not. Right. But it was fun to watch. You know, it was a fun perspective, and it gave you a good insider look into it. You know what I mean? Yeah, they had good development for the most part. Just too damn short.

Yeah. It could have gone twice as many. If it was a series. Twice as many episodes or another series would be great, like a follow-up, although I don't know where they're going to go after that ending. If it was a series, they could have gone more as a movie. I thought it could have gone less. You guys ready for ratings?

Sure. All right, Brian, what did you think, man? I'm going to give this a strong seven. All right. I do wish it was longer, but like you guys said, with that ending, is pretty much no point to having a second season or, I don't know, a spinoff. But I really enjoyed the characters. I thought the whole premise of the reality show was a good idea.

Um, the only problems I do have is, like I said, I just felt a couple, couple character arcs got kind of rushed. But other than that, um, this was a very solid show. And, um, you know, a lot of people have recommended it. And I'm finally glad I got to watch it. Right. Yeah, I, uh, I enjoyed it quite a bit as well. Um, I also give it a seven, seven on ten. I think that, uh, definitely not Brooker's best work. But you can kind of tell that it's, you know, it's kind of, some of kind of his earlier work, I guess. And I did really, really enjoy the way that they ended it because they didn't. She was the final girl, but she wasn't the final girl, you know, by the time it was all said and done. I mean, I don't know how else you could have ended something like this, quite frankly. Once you get fast zombies, it's pretty much all fucking over.

Yeah, like when it gets, I kind of like the dark ending to it, you know, that they have. And you're right, yeah, the fast zombies that, there's no way you can stop that because nobody has time to react to it and I think I'm going to give it a I'm going to give it a 6.5 a little bit lower I think it was definitely worth watching

right watching it as a movie though it is a little bit long and the characters some of them are very annoying which is the point Yeah, part of it is the point. Sure.

So, I mean, you know, it goes from the whole Big Brother House thing. Right. Yeah. I thought that they did really well with what they had. Cool. Yeah. All right. So I think we're all in agreement that, and it is on Netflix now, everyone.

So here in the U.S., at least for sure, it's on Netflix. So, yeah, if you get a chance, definitely do yourself a favor and two and a half hours to kill. You will enjoy. dead set. So our second feature of the night is a film that comes from Australia, scare campaign. Directors and writers were

Cameron and Colin Cairns, also known for 100 Bloody Acres in the Australian TV show Real Stories. This is similar to the US show Scare Tactics, which has run from 2003, and featured Shannon Dowardy,

Stephen Baldwin, and Tracy Morgan as host. Have you guys ever seen scare tactics? Yes. I'll fucking love that show. Brian, you want to tell Philip what it's about? Yeah, it's basically it's a prank show.

They put people in these scenarios to where they're thinking hauntings are happening. I've seen one with Bigfoot, demon possessions, all kinds of stuff. And basically they scare the shit out of them. And then after they scare them, they reveal that it's a prank later.

Yeah. Right. They always, at the end, they always say, are you scared? You should be, because you're on scare tactics. Well, you know what? It's funny to watch, man. If Tracy Morgan comes and says, hey, you're on a scare attack, I'm going to be like, all right, that's cool. You got me. Scare pranks are very popular on YouTube right now.

If you guys want to check out some of the funniest, just go to YouTube and type in elevator ghost girl. either one you guys seen that one is that with the girl that's kind of like she looks like the girl from the ring yes okay yes people get on an elevator and then it gets stuck and then the lights start

flashing on and off they have like a hidden door or something no I've seen that this girl comes in that looks like the one from the ring and she just like goes ah or just looks at him you ever see the video where somebody actually kicks her

uh no but I've got a few more to mention that go wrong. That's the one I'd watch, okay? It's the ones that go wrong. Right. Fucking clowns. All right.

Hey, another good one to type in on YouTube is Curse of Chuckie Poster at Bus Stop. You guys seen that one? Uh-uh. Yeah. Yes. Yes, I've seen that one. Yeah, you have seen it this little,

I think it's somewhere in South America or something like that, because I think most of the people are speaking Spanish. But it'll usually be women that are sitting at a, bus stop and like they'll they'll leave their purse there and run and everything because out of the curse of chucky poster this little uh midget comes out dressed up as chucky oh my god jason and uh guys you're talking about you want to talk about a prank gone wrong and i won't tell you what happens but go under youtube and type in never scare a black man and that's that's when that goes terribly terribly wrong but you guys should definitely check some of those

I saw one on Facebook today about a, one of those stupid clown ones. Right. And this guy was like a clown and he had an axe hanging down. Oh, no. He goes after this dude and it's on like a surveillance camera. And the guy acts all scared at first and then he opens the hatchback of his car and this dog comes out and just tears this clown. Oh, yes, I've seen this one. I've got to check that ass.

Yes, I see that one. All right. I'll be checking that one. out. Our last piece of trivia, Megan Warner, who plays Emma, portrays the character Mary Woodhaw in the AMC show Turn Washington Spies,

which is a pretty big show right now. So, anyway, scare campaign. I think we've all just watched this fairly recently. You want to give us your thoughts first, Philip? Man, I was really impressed with this one, especially

considering, I mean, what was obviously not the highest budget of film, you know, I mean, it's not a Hollywood film. It's not super low budget, like Blair Witch ish, but it's an Australian film. It started out

a little bit slow. I felt like they set up the twist, but then they twisted it some more. Right. Throughout the movie. And like the further it got into it, I was

I was watching it and then I was up doing stuff in the house, right? And then halfway through the movie when that whole second act started where they started the next scarecane pan I sat down and watched the whole thing intently like without even realizing it

I just stopped doing what I was doing and sat down and watched it and it held my attention the whole time. So yeah man I thought it was really good a lot better than I expected it to be. Yeah, I like that intro part because I knew that they were kind of doing the setup to kind of show you how they have the prank set up. Yeah, no, I like the intro.

I thought that was fun. And then they had a little drama in between there. Right. Like between that scare campaign and the next scare campaign was a little bit boring. But like once they hit the second scare campaign, man. Yeah, that's the one where they, well, we'll get into the spoiler section. The one that was the meat of the story.

Where they kind of flipped the script. Yeah. We can say that pretty safely without spoiling anything. They said, and I feel like that they did it on purpose. They set up the twist where you could totally see it coming. Right. And then they twisted it a few more times in the process, you know. And so what did you guys, we're talking about the drama part in the middle,

where they're being pushed so hard by the executives to, You know, come up with more and more scares and try to compete with what's considered entertainment out there, which is probably the way we're headed. Yeah. You know, if you watch, especially some of these films like the purge movies and stuff like that, you can kind of see where it's headed that way. Yeah. But what did you think of the mass weirdos when they showed up, the mass freaks? Well, yeah, it was definitely, you know, Law & Order's SBU-esque. Did you think they were real or did you think that was being fake?

No, I felt like that. That was probably real. Yeah? I mean, just the way that they did it and the way that everybody reacted to it, they made you think at least that it was real. Right. So an actual snuff film versus a prank? Especially if they pulled it off the deep web.

It's hard to tell what's real and what's not. And, I mean, on the Internet, there's a little bit more freedom than network TV. Right. Brian, what did you think, man? I really enjoyed this movie. It was a lot of, I got to borrow a phrase from the binge cast. There was a lot of twisty tourneys in this movie. Yeah, that there were.

That I did not, yeah. One of them I seen before the reveal, I'd seen that one coming. Right. Yeah, one of the things I really enjoyed in this movie was the practical effects. Yes. Yeah. They, for the budget they had in. this movie. They did a great job.

Yeah, I had no complaint with the special effects at all. Yeah, this basically was the show Scare Tactics turned into a movie, and I really enjoyed it. Well, I'll tell you, some of the things that I liked were some

nods that they did to other movies. You guys remember one of the films that we saw, of course, for the Year in Horror 1960, peeping Tom? Yes. Yes. So you guys got that vibe from the cameras that the mass freaks had big time, right? Oh, yeah, definitely.

Yeah. Where they had the murder instrument on the end of the camera like that and filmed it. Yeah, I could definitely see that. But it didn't seem ripped off. It just seemed more like an homage to it, you know? Yeah, definitely. And it was done quite a bit differently. Yeah, definitely different.

But, yeah, I enjoyed all the stuff we can't really quite talk about until we do the spoiler alert. But, yeah, man, it really kept you on your toes. I thought it was extremely well filmed from the beginning. Yeah. I thought the acting was really great. Yeah. That main actress, she's, Megan, I guess, is her name. She's really good.

All of them, I thought, yeah, we're really good. Yeah, there wasn't a deadhead in there that I was like, oh, well, this guy sucks. Yeah, I totally agree. Yeah, I was just kind of surprised that I hadn't seen more films that these guys, Cameron and Colin, I'm assuming their brothers. They don't seem last name, but they've been. They do have another one I want to go back and watch now called 100 Bloody Acres. And other than that, I don't think they've done a whole lot. So I kind of expect to see these guys come out with more, you know?

Yeah. I mean, if this is any indication of what they can do with the amount of money that was spent on it, that says a lot. This was some pretty high quality stuff for that. Yeah, I'll take it. I mean, I expected it to be a total dive movie, and it was not at all. both movies actually kind of reminded me a little bit of this last season of American Horror Story where they had the reality show stuff going. Right, sure.

So I thought that was kind of cool. It seems to be the newest genre. Yeah, I just liked what they were saying about how you have to really whore yourself out now for entertainment. Yeah. And take more and more risks. Because I'm sure that we're, I mean, how far do you guys think we are away from, from someone actually dying on one of these reality shows, you know? Like Survivor or, you know, any of those types of shows?

I think reality shows are on their way out. I think that this is an idea that has kind of been around for a little while. Right. I have a little more faith in the human race than that. I guess we'll see, huh? I know. Who did we just elect president here? Oh, we don't talk politics on the horror returns.

Most people don't. Most people don't, but I still believe that, were mostly good. And these things that could happen, which is kind of what this explores, I don't think actually will, because this is the kind

of exploratory shit that they've been talking about for a long time, and it hasn't actually happened yet. So. But there, like you said, there is a, there is a dark web out there. There are real snuff films, I'm sure. Oh, yeah, I'm sure there are. But I don't

think that they're going to be grossly popular and people are going to pay for them. Well, you guys ready for scores and then go into spoiler territory? Because that's about 90% of what this movie is, is easily spoiled stuff. Yeah, let's get to it. All right. What did you think, Philip? Um, huh, let's give it a score.

I'm going to give it and I'm going to give it an eight. Oh, wow. Yeah. I think it was. It might be one of your better, one of your better, more favorite movies of the year. It was definitely one of the better movies of the year. Like, when I finished watching this, I sent Lance a text, and I was like, wow, that movie was really good. I was really impressed with it.

It was better, a whole lot better than I expected it to be. I mean, it was like, I mean, if you're talking about a no-name, like, Australian movie becoming mid-time, I kind of put it on the list up there with Mad Max. That's some pretty strong words, man. I'm telling you, man. It was good. Yeah. It was really good.

It was a lot better than Xx. Yeah. As you could tell. That's what I'm saying. And nobody knew who, uh, Bill Gibson. And I feel like this one probably had a little bit of budget than Mad Max. Oh, yeah. It had to.

The way it looked, it definitely had some budget. Yeah. But, but I mean, it was a really good movie, man. It was a solid horror movie. I think that this one definitely belongs at the top of the list for the year. Cool. Well, yeah, I'm a. I was very pleasantly surprised with it.

Not that I thought it was going to be, you know, a piece of trash. I just didn't think the, I didn't think the special effects were going to be that good. I didn't think the acting was going to be that good. Yeah. You know, I had heard a few things about it, so I figured this, you know, I knew the story was decent. But, yeah, I mean, I think these guys got it right. I'll give it a 7.5, actually. Yeah.

Which could put it in top 10 territory for me for the year. That's good for you, dude. I'm, I think I'm right there with Philip. I think I'm going to give it an eight. Wow. It's pretty awesome. Yeah, I was pleasantly surprised. The acting was great.

The effects were awesome. I love practical effects. You know, CG's cool, but in a horror movie, I want to see practical effects. And that's what we got in this movie. Right. And the story was good enough to keep me. focused on the whole movie and

it did. I mean, my only problem was it was kind of short, a short movie. I think it was like an hour and 15 minutes, hour 20 minutes. Oh wow. Yeah, something like that. But I mean, it was just right. Boy, it definitely kept my attention the whole time.

Yeah, it definitely kept my attention. And, um, cool. This might be when we get to our year review top 10 show, This might be in there. All right.

Pretty strong words. How do people watch this movie? I bought it on iTunes. I think it was like $3.99 on iTunes or something like that. Yeah, I also watched it on iTunes. Very inexpensive rent. Very, very, very, very worth $3.99 on iTunes. Go check it out.

Yeah, and I'm not sure when or if it's ever going to be on Netflix or something like that, but I wouldn't be surprised if one day it is, you know. I can certainly see that. But, yeah, I mean, I think it's, shoot, I don't regret spending the money at all. I kind of wish I'd bought it. Oh, wow. Because I'd like to see it again. Yeah, it's really good.

We'll play that by ear. You guys ready for spoilers? Let's do it. All right, because there's a lot of them in this one, for sure. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. I mean, this was almost something where, you know, I wouldn't feel comfortable explaining even like the first, oh, I don't know, after the first 15 or 20 minutes of this to someone, I would feel kind of guilty about, you know, revealing anything that's going to happen. Yeah, because after they get the first, I guess, scare campaign done, it's very hard not to spoil this movie. True. Yeah. Yep, that is for sure. Well, and there's even some spoilers in the first scare campaign.

You think so? Yeah. Well, it's fun to watch it not knowing what it is. So now that you've heard that, if you don't listen to the spoilers, that's cool. Yeah, yeah, if you guys haven't watched the movie yet, you may want to, like you say, turn it off here or maybe listen to this afterwards or something, but. I probably would, and I'm not a big, like, spoiler person. I think that that's, that's, I kind of hate that trend. Yeah, go, go, go watch the movie.

Yeah, and then come. This one's fun to watch it with that. What's going to happen. Yeah, well, so the first, I guess the first major spoiler, because what we've already talked about is, you know, the first scene, which kind of sets up for you how the, how the show goes. And that one almost goes a little bit wrong, and you think it's going to go more wrong than it does.

but yeah, it turns out okay. And then that's when they have the meeting, I guess, with the executive at the network, and they show them the snuff film. Because, you know, by the end of the movie, we definitely know it was for real. There's no doubt about that. And then they talk about how, you know, you guys better fucking do something like this, too. Or you don't get your, you know, these kind of shows are going to steal our ratings and nobody's going to, you know, going to want to watch what you guys show anymore

unless you give us some actual fear. And then at that point, They set up the second scare and it made it look like the one guy that was coming in that used to work at the, what was it, was it like a school for orphans or was it more of like a mental institution, Brian, or what was it? I think it was a children's hospital possibly. I'm not sure. Yeah, they didn't really explain it very well. Not too well. And that kind of made it more creepy, did it?

Yeah, I think it was some sort of a hospital before. Yeah. Well, regardless, there definitely used to be young girls there, and there were definitely some tragedies that happened, and they alluded to that. Yeah, and I got a pedophile vibe from that guy. Yeah, definitely. And he used to be, I guess, the groundskeeper there. Right, as it turns out. Yeah. Coincidentally, right? But the final girl, the main chick, she was an actor on the show, and she didn't, she didn't, she. She was not privy to all the information. They set this guy up knowing that he had worked there at some point in time and that there had been some tragedies and that he may or may not have been involved, which I assume is why he's still roaming free.

And so he was super creepy from the beginning. And this is one where she was like, well, maybe we should just just, cut this one short because I can see it going horribly horribly wrong. Right. Yeah, and then it's almost like we don't want to spoil too much, isn't it? I can hear it

in your voice and you too, Brian. It's like we really don't want to ah, you know what? People really need to see the movie. There's so many really twists and turns in in the movie that it's hard it's hard to give

that shit away. You know what I mean? I mean, these spoilers are actually spoilers. Some people get stupid about spoiler alerts. Right. You're like, well, you told me who plays this part. Well, you should have seen that shit in the preview, dumbass. Well, I will say this. I will make sort of a broad statement here.

I don't know what it is in the water over there near Australia and New Zealand. But if you think about some of the films that have come out of that region lately, horror films, then they always have a little bit of dark comedy in them. Babadook. But, well, how about, yeah, Bobaduke for sure. How about this one, guys, what we do in the shadows? Yeah. What's think about that, Brian?

That was an excellent movie. And am I the only one who's seen housebound? That was the one I was. Oh, that was a good one. Is that with the... Go check it out. It's on Netflix. I'm telling you.

Is that what the girl, she gets on house arrest and has to go home? Yeah. Yes, okay, yes, I've seen that one. Yeah, real simple plot, right? Just a simple ghost story and nothing else, right? Shout out, my trillion friend, Marcy. There is a lot of excellent movies coming out of there. Right, yeah, yeah, I would say so.

And then one that I didn't care for as much, but a lot of people really loved. I thought it was a little too silly. Brian, you probably remember this, the heavy metal band, and they end up. Oh, I love that movie. I thought it was awesome. Yeah, Death Gats. GASM. I love death gasom. Yeah, I wasn't as impressed with that one. I'm a heavy metal guy, though. So those, those are my people. Right. Well, I guess we could just kind of suffice it to say that,

you know, they kind of flip the script on who's being pranked on that one, right? We can say that, and the mass freaks or whatever they call themselves do show up. And, yeah, kind of goes from there, right? Yeah, they're a network show that they do the first scare campaign and everything doesn't quite go according to plan. I kind of hate to even give that part away because I think it's a fun reveal. Yeah, that's a fun movie. It has a lot of tension behind it. And then the producer of the show, she's like the hard-nosed, stone-cold bitch. and she's showing them this internet video from the dark web.

There's air quotes here in case you couldn't see them. And it's the masked freaks. Right. And they take out this, they have this like human sacrifice people who have also done like an internet series, which is obviously fake. Super fake. Yeah. And as soon as they show them,

on the screen, the director of the scare campaign shown is like, what is this? Amateur Hour? Why are we watching this? Right. And then the mass freaks. Yeah, with the fake guts that he was pulling out. And then the masked freaks have like these knives and shit on the end of their cameras and they

just start cutting up all the survivors from this thing. And even the people in the room were like, oh my God, is this, is this real? Because it looks real. Right. So they kind of set it up to where you know the mass freaks are going to be a part of the movie.

And that's where I was like, oh man, they just sort of telegraphed this one. But there's definitely a lot more twists and turns than you would expect. And it was definitely fun to watch a good horror movie with twists. Yeah, and a little bit of dark comedy for good measure. A little bit of dark comedy, a lot of tension. It's got that, uh, I don't know, it's got that real tense vibe to it. You know what I mean? Right.

Yeah. So I, I thought it was pretty good. Yeah, nothing really particularly supernatural. I mean, it was all explainable. Oh, yeah. Evil humans doing evil acts, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah, definitely explainable. So it was, it was awesome.

Yeah, I thought the look of the, what were they, the mass freaks? Oh, yeah. I thought they had cool looks with them. I thought the masks were really cool looking. They definitely had some cool masks. And, uh, man, I hate to even give away any more of it. Yeah, I, I, this, this is kind of hard. Uh, this, this kind of seems like one spoiler section I don't want to do.

Yeah, but I, I will get into my stupid people. Stupid people of the week. This is one spoiler. This is one spoiler I'm okay with. the dumbass cameraman that gets killed with the chainsaw. Right. First of all, if you have someone coming at you with the chainsaw, he's behind a fence or a gate or something.

Get away from the gate. That was my question. Was there like a tiny little area? Or was it like a room that he was behind on the gate? Because I thought the same thing. I was like, why did you just like take a step back? Because when he... Like a lamb's slaughter, huh?

Yeah, when he pulled the chainsaw out, I thought he was going to cut through the gate. But he immediately cuts the guy's arm off and the guy's screaming like he's cutting my arm off. And he still doesn't get away from the gate. And it's not like he didn't see him coming. He's videotaping the motherfucker. Yeah, he has no idea who this guy is

and he has a chainsaw. It's time to get away. I'm asking a chainsaw. I should probably just stand here. here. Yeah, you had me at Mask and Chainsaw. I'm the fuck out of there at that point, you know?

So, uh, that is my stupid person of the week. All right, cool. Well, on that note, uh, we definitely want to thank you guys for all joining us, uh,

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Twitter as well, right? Oh, yes, Twitter. Well, all that social media Yes. Facebook, Twitter, Instagram. horror returns. Cool. All right. And next week, Brian, you picked the movie for us next week.

So what are we going to watch? And then what's the classic one that we're going to follow up with? Okay. Next week, we are going to be getting into some demon possession with Incarnate and The Exorcist. That's my favorite movie. So Incarnate and the original The Exorcist, right? Yes. Yes, and I will have an update review on the show The Exorcist.

I got to watch it between now and then at some point. I don't know. I got so much shit through my house. Well, we may all be caught up by then, Brian. I've seen the first episode only, but I have faith in you guys to pull us through on that one. So, until the horror returns again.