The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #254: Psychological Horror, Part 1: The Hand That Rocks The Cradle (1992) & Single White Female (1992)
Episode Date: April 6, 2021This week, we take our first look at psychological horror, with The Hand That Rocks the Cradle and Single White Female. Cool of the Week includes The Suicide Squad trailer, Godzilla Vs Kong, and Raya ...and the Last Dragon. Trailers this week are The Night House and Spiral From the Book of Saw. The podcast spotlight shines on Eternal Darkness of Not So Spotlight Minds. And we get feedback from Malvolia the Queen of Screams, VeniceSprings, The VD Clinic, Tim Davis, Matt Wood, Jeff Larrimore, Sean Henry, Cameron Sullivan, Bo Ransdale, and Kate Pollock. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz
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Ladies and gentlemen, this is Bruce Campbell, and you are listening to The Horror Returns.
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All right, welcome back one and all through the board returns.
Lots of big changes coming.
guys lots of big changes for the good everything totally for the good we will keep everybody up to date but there's been some things that have caused us to make changes and then we've got our own website now and then philip is turning us on to video so we're actually going to have some presences on in the video world on youtube pretty soon but you might not recognize this when you see it but i will just leave it at that i'm lance with me as always my co-
host Brian and Philip.
Nez is on the road, but we're here.
Brian, what's it like in Alaska, man?
It's getting warmer.
Everything's melting.
So right now, it is a combination of beautiful sunshine and shitty roads because of everything
melting.
And like I said before, when winter starts, people don't know how to drive.
And when winter ends, people do not know how to drive.
Dirty slush.
Gotta love it.
Philip, are you staying busy, man?
Oh, yeah, dude.
Working my ass off.
Taking care of kids, sports.
We've got baseball and soccer going on right now.
Nice.
Okay.
Back to sports again.
That's good, man.
The panic is over.
The COVID panic is over, right?
One way or the other.
Oh, yeah.
Fuck it.
Got to live.
Vaccines.
There's so many people that have had it.
We'll deal with it.
and Izzy scored a goal today.
Oh, nice.
Yeah.
Sorry, I missed that, man, but we will see you guys next weekend, am I right?
Oh, yeah, we'll be there.
Good.
Brian, we've got to find a way to get you down here, man.
Well, there's like planes and stuff like that.
It's time to party, motherfucker.
Don't let no planes get in the way.
AJ and I will be getting on an airplane
for the first time in two years
next month. We're finally
taking the plunge. So
if I get, we got our masks,
we got our vaccination. I mean,
you know, what's the worst that can happen,
right?
Well, yeah. If you
already had it, you got a vaccination
and a mask.
Pretty sure you're covered.
There's not too much more we can do,
is there?
Yeah. Except maybe right on the plane, like that
demon and twilight zone, right?
Oh, you don't want to ride on that part of the plane.
You have to have the new rectal medication.
You guys ready to jump into Cool of the Week?
Let's do it.
Of course.
Who wants to go first?
My Cool of the Week is checking out Phillips' avatar,
which all our listeners will know about next week.
Well, we may be able to throw this one up.
see.
All right.
His eyes
is a lot better than the other one,
I will say.
Maybe.
He's able to hold it together.
I'm trying.
I've had a lot of weed.
I could go first.
I did, again,
the second week in a row,
I did not watch hardly
anything. I checked out a new
shutter movie called
a violation.
It's kind of like a, well, it's not
kind of.
of it's a rape revenge film
I'm going to be horrified
if you don't end this cool the week with what I want you to
I don't know it depends
uh oh
you see Dick
erect
everything
well that's not where I was going with it
I was going with it
I was really looking forward to watching
this movie I heard a lot of people talking
about it online and through like
social media, which kind of slightly is also not cool of the week, because if you have
shutter through Amazon Prime, they are really late sometimes.
I'm putting new stuff up, and it got to the point where I had to cancel mine and just
go through the actual app shutter to watch it.
I think I'm going to get shutter again through Apple, so hopefully they won't have that
problem. Well, Lance, if you get
AMC Plus
it includes
shutter.
Oh, okay. I might end up having
to do that then, man. I think it's
AMC Plus shutter and
IFC films and
something else all
in one package.
And I do love my
indie indie movies, man.
Yes. As far as the
movie, it
it's more it's kind of artsy fartsy kind of
I don't know there was some there was some cool visuals
and then there were some other visuals I was just kind of like what the fuck are we
doing now
the right penis that
was something I was not expecting
it just it's it's there you have to deal with it
if you can't deal with it
but as far as like the
rape revenge
scenario of the movie, I kind of felt like it was very tane.
I mean, we've seen stuff like revenge, and I spit on your grave and stuff like that.
Even I kind of felt like, from an actual story standpoint, I think Promising Young Woman was way better.
Oh, dude, that was one of my favorite movies of the year so far, man.
I'm counting it for this year, by the way.
Yeah, so I would kind of not recommend.
this movie. It's well made
and well acted. I just
maybe just all the talk
on social media kind of had me
a little bit hype to see it.
Right. And then go on through the process of
okay, stop getting
shuttered through Amazon and just go
get shuttered direct and
I was just a little disappointed
so.
Gotcha.
But on the upside, there's that bag of dicks that
everybody keeps telling you about.
Yes.
On the website.
if a bag of dicks
was, if there was
dicks all over that island
in Suicide Squad, John Cena would eat
every one of them in the name of Liberty.
They've been telling me to eat them for years.
I've never seen them.
Oh, boy.
That movie is, okay,
I'll say that's my cool of the week
is that Suicide Squad trailer.
Trailer?
Okay, cool.
I will mark you down for Suicide Squad trailer.
I trust James Gunn.
fully after watching that trailer.
And I see why
John Cena's A peacemaker
character is getting his own HBO
Mac series because
besides him and King Shark,
I think
those are going to be the standout characters
right there. And then James
Gunn has said that
Margot Robbie has kind of stepped up
the Harley Quinn character for this movie.
Good. Wow. I am
excited for this movie.
Yeah. I'm
She hadn't done a bad job at Harley Quinn yet.
So if she's stepping it up from there, I'll take it.
Black Widow did get moved to, since we're on the little comic book movie news,
it did get moved to July, but it's also,
it's not only coming out in theaters.
It's, uh, you can pay for it through Disney Plus.
Okay.
I got, I got something to say about that.
So we'll, we'll get to that eventually.
Well, I think for that one, well, we're going to make our official return to the theater next month.
for the show, but for Black Widow,
I think I might end up doing that renting out
a theater for the family.
Well, you're talking my language, man.
We'll get to it.
We'll get to it.
So, yeah, violation on shutter,
not so cool of the week.
And Suicide Squad trailer,
cool of the week.
Big bouncing or egg, dicks.
Not cool of the week.
And I meant to get, because the first episode of season two of Creep Show just came out, I meant to get to that one.
Yeah?
But I didn't get to it yet.
So next week I'll talk about it.
Okay.
Choking all those dicks down takes time.
All right.
All right.
I cannot believe you did not mention fucking Godzilla versus Cole.
There we go.
Somebody's on my side.
We reviewed it, and let's just say, I ain't going to give away the scores, but me and Lance were on completely different views of this movie.
And not in the way you would expect, Philip, and not in the way you would expect.
I say it all the time. You say Ness, I say Lance. I just, I don't know where he's going sometimes.
Also true, I understand that. But I got to say, I kind of loved it. It was.
It was stupid and cheesy, but God, it's a bunch of monsters fighting each other.
What are you going to do?
Had no problem.
The fight scenes were great.
You could actually see them.
It wasn't just a fucking Godzilla foot or some bullshit.
Yep.
Yep.
And the only, the acting was kind of dumb, but it wasn't necessarily the acting.
I think it was the writing.
But that's not what it was there for.
I wouldn't say kind of dumb.
Yeah.
I might leave that kind of out of it.
It definitely could have been better.
Or my suggestion, if you're listening, after the Bag of Dix comment,
leave the people out of it altogether.
Just make a, it works with Castaway.
Okay.
Just make like a silent movie where you emote the expressions on like Kong, right?
Yeah.
Or if.
anything, just keep the existing cast that survived and stop adding 27 new characters to it.
I liked a lot of the new characters, though, Brian?
I did, but I felt like in the movie, they started talking about things like you already knew that they happened.
You're like, oh, were they in another movie?
Uh, yeah, maybe dumb.
I must have missed that part.
Yeah, a lot of the shit coming out of Professor Scarsgaard's mouth.
I was just like, the fuck out of here.
Tarzan.
I don't...
I know.
Parzane versus...
Yeah, where's his brother?
Let's get him in the movie.
Right.
He might be in the next one.
Be careful what you wish for.
So his brother in this movie
who had died
and was apparently
the person that you were expected
to know for some reason
that doesn't make any sense
is a twin brother.
They showed a picture of him
and he's got a twin...
Spoiler alert, I guess.
My bad.
But he...
And I'm like, oh, well, he must have played a part in another movie that I just don't remember.
Oh, no, you didn't.
Nope.
See, now you're making me more angry about this movie.
So you're saying, because I think I remember the picture, but I think I had rolled my eyes and not really looked at it.
So you're saying they made the picture look like there was two Scarsguards?
Yes, it was like a twin brother.
And it's like, why would you make?
Oh, yeah.
that.
I gotcha.
Fair enough.
Unless it was him playing another part in another movie, which he didn't do.
Like, I feel like there was another movie written for this shit, and it just didn't get made.
You said that.
You said that last night.
Yeah, there was, Phil, we talked about they gave last names to characters that are possibly related to other characters throughout the series.
Yeah.
But they just never tell you.
Nothing to tie it together.
He had to look on IMDB and was like,
is this character related to this one?
Maybe, or they just coincidentally have the same last name.
Okay, but Philip, how about that battle at sea, dude?
How about that fucking sea battle halfway through the movie, man?
Listen, everything that they did with Godzilla and Kong.
I'm not a huge fan of the design of, uh, spoiler alert,
Mecha Godzilla, but if you've already seen this trailer, you know he's coming.
I think everybody knows.
Yeah.
I'm not a huge fan of the design of him.
But, you know, I didn't hate it.
Aside from that,
every monster fight that was in it,
which is really what we're there for to begin with,
was awesome.
Good to agree with you more, man.
Yeah, I agree with you everything with the...
I think I came off liking Kong even more after this movie.
Oh, yeah.
And that guy has some legit fighting moves.
Yeah, dude.
He has a badass right hook.
Yeah, I also got to say shout out to Francis Nganoe, new UFC heavyweight champ.
Look out.
Knocked out Steep A. Miochich.
Oh, damn.
I have to commend that guy because Francis, if anybody's seen that guy, that guy is a scary man.
You do not want to get hit by him.
but he got his ass kicked up first fight.
He came back and fixed every mistake that he committed in that first fight
and just came out looking real good,
and John Jones called him out for a heavyweight showdown,
and apparently it's not happening because they're not showing John the money,
and he is asking for his release.
Oh, man.
John Jones is
maybe the greatest pound for pound fighter ever.
Give the man some money
and the pound of cocaine.
Yep, there you go.
That'll do it.
Don't ever try to make fun of him
for using cocaine like Daniel Cormier.
He was like, yeah, I was on cocaine,
and I beat you on cocaine.
John Jones on cocaine versus Nate Diaz
stoned out of his mind.
Oh, man.
And you know Nate would take that fight instantly.
And I also remember.
Also, get his ass kick, but.
Yeah.
Another not so cool the week, I just remember it.
I wanted to say this.
Prayers go out to DMX right now.
It's not looking good for him.
What's that with DMX?
He had an overdose, and they said he's basically in a vegetative state.
Ouch.
And he's probably not going to make it.
Ouch.
Drugs are bad, okay?
Yeah.
He had a long battle.
He was looking real good there.
If anybody seen when they did
his little versus battle with Snoop Dogg
when they were going song for song, he looked really good,
put on a lot of weight, and
kind of relapsed.
Yeah.
Not looking.
good for him right now.
Addicted to the bag of dicks.
The bag of dicks has
come back again.
I apologize. That was an inappropriate
joke. But hey, what I do.
Yeah.
Lance,
we're about to own our own
website and our own
podcast, Philip. So
we're finally going to get to where we can say what we want.
But is that a spoiler alert?
Oh man, cool of the week, guys.
My cool of the week is getting back into the movie theater,
which I took the plunge this week, guys.
I reactivated my AMC A-List membership.
And started the week with a movie that a little bit less than I thought it was going to be.
I was kind of hoping it would tie a little bit more into,
the John Wick universe and have some
at least some cameos
and stuff like that but
I gotta tell you man
Bob Odenkirk as a
as an ass kicker
telling jokes the whole time he's kicking ass
is not a bad thing
checked out
yep checked out nobody
enjoyed every minute of it
great movie
the only thing I wish
the director did say that
that window is still open
that it's a
Well, you know what?
I sat, again,
sat around for a fucking after-credit
scene that never really happened.
There was a very small
after-credit scene, but it had nothing to do
with the hotel or anything like that.
Yeah, let's get that
John Wick, Atomic Blind
Nobody crossover movie.
Oh, my God, dude.
That would be amazing.
That would be amazing.
But the thing I did love about this movie
is that it did blend a lot of comedy.
in there, which with Odin Kirk, I mean, you know, to be expected, I would think.
But it's really cool the way that they built his character up where he kind of started out trying really, really hard not to go back to doing what he didn't want to have to do.
But this one little thing triggered him, just like with John Wick, like the dog, right?
The one little thing triggered John Wick.
And it was even a smaller thing with this guy.
What little thing they killed this fucking dog, dude?
You know what? This one was even, well, this one was, was, I don't want to say anything.
It had something to do with something that disappointed his daughter. That's all I'm going to say.
And anybody who's a father of a daughter knows that you do not disappoint your kids.
You do whatever you have to do to make them happy and to, if I could get your ass back in there and handle a situation when you have to.
So definitely big props to nobody. Glad I saw it on the big.
screen. After that one, I checked out
as we just talked about
Godzilla versus Kong, and
went ahead and took the plunge and watched
it in 3D. I know a lot of people
hate 3D, but I'm a sucker
for it. I'm a sucker for it.
I thought it was done extremely
well with this movie. You're in the movie theater, why
not? You know what?
In my opinion, Brian, this was the
best 3D for me
since Avatar.
Very, very
immersive and very
well done. But the best
movie, the best movie. I don't remember
avatar. I think it was hard.
Shit. Yeah. Well, there should
be a two and a three coming out in like
2003 or something, finally.
Yeah. They're almost
there. Once the neural
link is final.
Get Bill Gates in there.
But, best movie
of the three, guys, the one that I
saw today, and I took
two of the granddaughters
and their friends,
and here we are back to the Disney thing,
full circle again,
and whether you go to the theater
or pay the 30 bucks to buy it
on Disney Plus, Brian.
Any of you guys seen Raya and the Last Dragon?
Yes.
This was some of the best
fucking animation I have seen
in my life.
Yeah, I agree with you, Lance.
I don't, I'm kind of,
I follow right into this right here.
I don't think of,
enough people are talking about the movie, and I'm included because I loved it, and I don't think I ever even brought up that I watched it.
I forgot about it.
You know what, guys?
I swear to God, a couple of times I kind of looked down, because I had all the kids with me, so I'd, you know, like me pass some popcorn across or whatever.
I looked up, and I could have sworn that it was real people, not animation, and not in a creepy, that Christmas train movie.
No, Polar Express.
Yeah, not in a creepy polar express way.
In a real,
in a real fucking total facial features,
you completely buy into this.
Polar Express.
That's the only time you should be scared of Tom Hanks.
That was nightmare fuel.
Some of the things these animators did with water, guys.
Oh, my God.
This was an amazing movie.
Definitely far and away my cool of the week, man.
So I get to go to three movies a week with my A-list.
I went to three this week.
I plan to go to three next week.
And, uh, hey, man, it's cool.
Definitely cool.
So we got some headlines, Brian.
Do we?
Yeah, maybe.
We've got a few.
I got to dig up something here.
Let's start with Stephen Youn.
Everybody knows him as Glenn from the,
Walking Dead, RIP.
Hey.
He is going to be starring in Jordan Peel's upcoming untitled horror film.
Huh, okay.
Along with, what is his name?
Daniel Kalua, who was just in...
Okay, get out?
Get Out?
Oh, more recently in Judas and the Black Messiah.
Thank you, yeah.
Oh, so he's like, the main dude didn't get out, right?
Yeah.
Yeah.
Man?
that ought to be good.
I already, yeah,
don't have any information on what the movie's about,
but I'm already liking the cast.
Yeah, definitely.
Let's see.
Although Menari was a snooze fest for me.
I'm trying to watch all the best picture nominees.
I think we have like one or two more to go,
but not my favorite movie with Glenn in it.
I much preferred the one that he was in with Samara leaving.
Yes.
I think a lot of people do.
We love you tomorrow.
Let's see.
Netflix has acquired Ryan Johnson's
Knives Out for
two sequels.
I heard about this and I cannot
fucking wait.
Ryan Johnson is returning to
direct the two sequels and Daniel
Craig is also returning to be
in the two sequels.
Philip, what do you think about that?
I'll take it. He may not
be able to hack it in Star Wars
but
let him write a story on his own
Ryan Johnson is a good writer.
There you go. That was a great movie.
I think it was all up on all of our
top tens that year, right? Yeah.
Yeah, I just fear that upcoming
Netflix price raise because
I'm going to call it right now.
We're going to get that email.
The dollar raise is coming.
They spent
they spent over
450
million dollars to purchase this.
They've got to start coming out with some better shit
because Netflix has got an awful lot of competition right now.
HBO Max is fucking awesome.
They can only raise the price so many times, right?
Well, it's going to happen because once Columbia
was it, not Columbia, Paramount,
starts doing their movies, theater movies releasing
after they're doing opposite of what HBO Max is doing
after the first 30 days.
Phillips' favorite
Paramount Plus,
formerly known as CBS All Access.
They tried to trick you, Phil.
I know.
You can't fool me,
motherfucker.
No, listen, the only reason
I really had a problem with CBS All Access
is because they were the first
you know,
network broadcasting thing
to start charging for shit
that they didn't need to be charging for.
Not necessarily.
necessarily Star Trek, but you know,
just, no, I got you, man.
CBS shows on demand, you shouldn't have
to fucking buy.
Yeah, because they're on TV.
Their original content wasn't really
up there. Right.
And
now that everybody's doing it,
they were just first to the show,
so they got the blunt of my wrath.
Yeah, well,
Peacock struck a big move
acquiring WWE
exclusively.
Okay, see I didn't know that.
Yeah, the WWE network, I think April, I think now, actually, it might be done as far as the app.
I think you've got to go directly to Peacock, which if you were already paying for the WWE Network,
you basically get Peacock for the same price, so you get two for one.
Oh, okay.
So Netflix, the fuck.
Yeah.
And all these apps are cheaper.
Falling behind in all of these right now.
Well.
But like Brian said, they'll probably keep raising the price, right?
Yeah, and I heard Stranger Things 4 might,
I heard a rumor might be delayed and might not come out this year.
Because of COVID or what?
No, because I don't know what the reason is.
I think I read, they were talking to,
someone was interviewing some of the actors in the show and they have no idea.
Well, Millie Bobby Brown does look like a young lady now.
She doesn't look like a kid anymore.
So this could be a problem.
She's looking awfully grown up.
Finn Wolvard is like seven feet tall now.
Yeah, him too.
With a full beard.
The goofy kid with the teeth is going to be like fucking looking like a linebacker, you know?
Right.
Okay, let's see here.
This one I'm kind of excited about because I,
just watched his,
rewatched his shorts,
Neil Blum camp.
Ah, okay, cool.
He said shorts.
He filmed a
horror movie during the pandemic
that nobody knew he was filming
in IFC Midnight,
who we've worked with before.
I love them.
Possibly send us a screener, possibly maybe.
They have acquired his
a new horror film called
Demonic.
If we could interview Neil Blomkamp,
that would be like beyond a touchdown.
That would be amazing.
I have watched everything he's put out.
I think he has a great eye.
He has a great eye.
I can see some people,
as far as like story,
kind of don't like some of his movies,
but you can't disagree
that visually he puts out
really great stuff.
Yeah.
Is that it?
Lance, you already know American Gods was canceled.
Unfortunately, I'm watching the...
I'm three episodes into the third season now.
But the good news is they are looking to go somewhere else
to do neither a movie or a limited series to wrap it up.
That's cool.
Yeah, no problem with that.
If there's an end to the story, I'll finish watching it.
I've only seen the first season.
You know what?
first
season was so much better than the second
and unfortunately like an idiot
I heard a
I waited so long to watch this third one
I've heard a spoiler of a major death
and I'm like
oh great
wow what's the main guy's name
oh you're talking about moon
yeah what is
moon shadow I think
I'm right there with Phil
I only seen the first episode
but I've seen like pictures
the fuck is going on with his hair
you know what it's what is it different in every episode or what i don't know it just looks weird
i've heard him referred to as punchable so who knows yes he he kind of is
i think he out of that first season i love the first season i think he was probably my least
favorite character i couldn't agree more i think it's safe to say mr wednesday is everybody's
favorite character right yeah i really liked his wife
Especially that scene where she kicked that guy so hard in the balls, he just split apart.
Yeah, but you know what?
Add one to the bag of the case.
You got to understand, this poor dude, Moonshadow, was in prison,
and she was off giving blow jobs to, like, their best friend that was a neighbor that came over and barbecued.
So I don't have a whole lot of...
Who knows what he was doing in prison.
Jesus Christ.
He could have been giving blow jobs.
Last little bit of news.
I need to rewatch this because I never finished it,
but the Russian creature features Sputnik.
Yes, already.
He's getting a remake.
That movie only came out last year.
Yes.
It's getting an English language remake from producer Matt Reeves.
Maybe I'll wait and watch the English one then.
I'm not a huge fan of Russia.
I heard this is a,
really great sci-fi creature feature.
It's right up my alley.
I should probably check it out.
Yeah, and honestly, it's rare when they make an English language remake that's as good as the original.
True.
I'm glad that, because they were going to remake the raid, like a year after it came out.
Uh-huh.
They, I've never heard anything from it again.
The only good thing that came out of that news was Frank Grillo was going to be in the remake.
Okay.
and that was it.
That was the only thing I was like, oh, okay.
But everything else.
They just made Judge Dredden instead, right?
We need a sequel to that one.
We need that TV show because Carl Urban,
Carl Urban said he'd come back for the TV series.
Yeah?
I'd watch that in a heartbeat.
I'd watch anything with Carl Urban, man,
especially when he's playing Bones McCoy and Star Trek.
Oh, he was, yeah, he embodied.
What was the actor, the original?
Oh, yeah.
Fuck. God damn it.
I should sure as hell know that, huh?
Oh, somebody's pulling your Star Trek card.
Yep. Somebody's pulling my Star Trek card.
As we speak.
Well, whatever his name is.
I felt like he embodied that character.
DeForest Kelly.
DeForest Kelly.
I didn't even have to look it up.
He sounded and had his mannerisms down.
Big time.
Yeah, but you know what?
I thought as the movies went on,
Pine got a lot more Kirk-like, too.
I mean, they all got more like their characters.
I always like Chris Pine as Kirk.
I think that works.
Yeah, I think, uh, rest of peace, Anton Yeltsin, I think he did a spot on Chekhov.
Oh, absolutely.
Yep.
And, uh, the fuck is his name from Heroes.
He did a, he did a pretty good spot.
Oh, Zach Quinto.
Yes.
He's really good.
I like him.
haven't seen him in much lately
yeah he kind of seems like he kind of picks and chooses when he wants to do stuff
it's a pretty good actor
yeah definitely
did he direct a little too
that's probably why we haven't seen him maybe he got it
could have something to do with him i think so
like amelio
oh god damn it we still have a
We still got to do that
Got to get with Darren
On that repo man commentary, Phillip
Oh yeah
That totally got derailed. What happened?
Fuck, I don't know.
Universal music happened.
Oh, shh.
Okay.
Let's move on.
I'm trying not to say anything tonight, guys.
Yeah.
I'm fuming, so.
But go
Go, go, go download our old
episodes right now
because they're going to get this down.
Please, guys, please, download our old episodes, and we have changes coming.
Yeah, before we get into the trailer park, let's just kind of get this out now.
We've had some issues.
If you're able to download the original versions of our episodes, do that now,
because they are going to be pulled soon.
They will be re-uploaded just without certain elements to it.
Certain musical cues.
We don't even know which songs are in question.
All songs are in questions.
I'm going to blame CBS All Access for this.
Okay, there you go.
Just keep it simple.
So essentially the man has come down on us, told us no, stop it.
Yes, because obviously they need the money that we don't make, since our show goes up for free, more than we do.
but if you can get them now, get them now,
eventually you won't be able to,
but later on down the line,
we have things working to where you can
be able to go listen to them.
Nice. Well said, right.
We'll have a place for them.
They'll be free and you can get to them,
but for now they're about to come down,
so they'll grab them while you can.
Get them on a hat.
Yeah, and other exciting changes coming down the pipe, too, guys.
And this YouTube that you kids are all into, you know, this YouTube,
I think we're going to have to embrace the younger generation and join on.
Yeah, we're going to have to be extra careful on YouTube,
because I've heard from a lot of creators,
a lot of YouTube creators that
do the stuff that we do
as far as like horror
sometimes they have to submit their videos
two or three times before YouTube actually
puts it up
I'm going to say a lot of stupid shit
you guys ready
we're ready man we should be ready
at least we now own
now this we can officially
announce we officially own
the website
www. www.thehorror returns
com. So moving forward
guys, once Philip
and I get together and build a website
out and if Brian helps us from where
he's at and we get something going,
you will have a centralized place
for all things the horror returns.
So for
the time being, it looks like we
are going to, you'll be able
to find our show where you
throughout the different
podcast platforms.
We have a website coming
and we have a lot
more things coming. Changes are coming, essentially. Good, good changes.
They thought they were going to fuck us out of existence, and they've only made us stronger.
They just gave us a nice little kickingy ass. Mm-hmm. With the bag of dicks.
And on that note, I think it's time to go to the trailer park.
All right. Brian's going to bring us the big, the small, and maybe the very, very weird.
What are we talking about, man? Big and the small bag of dicks.
Okay.
There it is.
I knew I'd get you on board.
All right.
The first trailer will be the nighthouse.
A widow begins to uncover her recently deceased husband's disturbing secrets.
I didn't really get that in the trailer.
This stars Rebecca Hall, who we just seen in Godzilla versus Kong.
Yeah, but this looks like a better.
performance.
Yeah.
Okay, just go listen to the
review
Godzilla's universe. I had
some things to say about her characters.
I guess I'm doing air quotes.
Job she was supposed to be doing.
She was
the Karen in the whole movie.
Horrible
parental figure too.
Rebecca Hall, Stacy Martin,
Sarah Gold,
Evan
Sorry, my notes
kind of disappeared
Sarah Goldberg
Evan
God damn these names
Jonniquette
Bondi Curtis Hall
which I didn't even see him
in the trailer
Samantha Buck
They might have Lance Reddict him
Like Kong versus Godzilla did
Oh god damn that movie
Okay
This is directed by
David Bruckner
And I've heard of name.
He's done a lot of shit, I think, right?
Oh, shit.
Yeah.
The ritual on Netflix, Southbound, BHS, creep show.
Yeah, he's all over the place.
Ritual is really good, everybody.
Go check that out.
Yep.
What did you guys think of the Nighthouse?
Looks creepy.
I like, what's that little doll with the pins in it or whatever?
I don't know
It looked like more of a
sculpture or something
Could be
I mean the description
and the trailer do not match up at all
I saw nothing about any kind of recently
deceased husband's disturbing secrets
That's for sure
Well, maybe
I don't know
I'm not sure exactly what it's about
But it looks like it's going to be an interesting concept
I'm actually kind of excited for this one
it's right at my
I like this movie
I did
oh
party file
um
I'm kind of down
on Rebecca Hall
coming off
okay
coming off of Godzilla
versus Kong
and then watch
the trailer
another party file
damn it
who's dead
watch out of bag of dick
still with us
I'm having a lot of
construction done at my house
right now
and I just tripped over
some moldy
you doing the construction
right now
I just took up with the moment
I left laying around.
Okay.
What was I saying?
Rebecca Hall.
In this trailer, at times,
she,
I'm assuming you're supposed to be scared.
Yes.
She just kind of looks like,
huh?
Like there's bloody footprints coming to you
and you're just standing there
with the blank expression on your face.
That's your kind of her face, though,
to be fair.
Yeah, and then she's reading a note
that going by the synopsis is
apparently written from your deceased husband to you.
Right.
And I'm just like, you're not kind of freaked out by it.
If someone had just died.
Well.
And then all of a sudden I get a written letter from that dead person that just shows up out of nowhere.
Mm-hmm.
Or I see bloody footprints falling.
Was it?
Yeah.
It wasn't.
Okay.
I wasn't too clear.
I was too busy.
That's the impression they gave.
Yeah.
Not to say
She has a messed up face or anything
She's a beautiful lady
Just
She seems kind of one note to me
Yeah
But she's got that face
It's who
She could have been
Somebody's
Wife in Godzilla versus Kong
Because they also had a
Huh
This is your new live Tyler
Oh
Oh no
Philip.
At least she has a father
that plays music that
I somewhat enjoy, so
what do you bring
to the table with Rebecca Hall?
King Kong, motherfucker.
King Kong
ain't got shit on me.
All right. What's next?
Okay, so
yeah.
Thank Phil. I think you're the only one interested in the nighthouse, and that comes out.
It looks cool, man.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Weird reflection house that's built backwards.
It looks like an interesting concept.
It reminds me of a very well-in trailer, I think.
It reminds me of that movie that came out last year with Kevin Bacon.
I know that I read the book.
Yeah.
The book was good, but the House of Leaves, but the movie was so bad.
And I hope it's a better movie than that one was.
Yeah, with that movie, you should have.
you had a great concept with the house.
Yeah.
Well, the book was great, man.
Yeah, that whole scene in the movie where he's looking at the outside of the house
and it's like the inside and the outside don't match up.
And there was more to the house.
And it's just shitty Blumhouse, throwaway movie.
July 16th, the night house.
Quit ruining Kevin Bacon.
You can't ruin Kevin Bacon.
That's true.
I guess. Nothing to worry about.
All his bills are paid for generations to come, I'm sure.
Yes.
And on to the final trailer, which, spoiler, I am kind of out on this one.
Uh-oh.
Which is spiral from the Book of Saw.
Why would you be out?
Come on, dude.
It's a small movie.
Let me get to that.
A criminal mastermind unleashes a twisted, torn.
a twisted form of justice and spiral.
Kind of sounds like we're redoing the same thing.
The terrifying chapter from the Book of Saul.
Let's see.
This happened.
We Chris Rock.
Morgan, David Jones, Samuel O. Jackson,
Ali Johnson, Chris Rock,
who is fucking like fifth build in this one.
Wow.
Well, it's his movie.
So, you know.
I was going to say he's directing, right?
he is producing
this is based off the idea that he brought
to Lionsgate
oh okay
because he came at that
that's the only thing that intrigues me because they said
he came with them with a fresh idea
because I guess they were kind of
fresh idea and yet it's the same
exact tramp on somebody's face
in one of the scenes
well you know
they're going to
oh yeah yi
Lance you were just kind of
telling me to be more up on this movie
and now you're
okay all right
All right. Fair enough.
This is directed by Darren Lynn Bowesman.
I believe he did.
What did he do?
Like the second, third, and fourth one?
Yeah, and he's also done a musical, dude.
Repo the Genetic Opera.
And do not forget, there's a certain random guy named Lonnie Lingston or Longston or something
that's requested three musicals.
So I hope those are on the schedule soon.
Let me address.
No, you can't play music on the podcast.
No music.
Let me address this asshole.
It is on the schedule.
It is coming in May.
We are going to discuss his musical picks
because I do actually enjoy two of them.
The third one I've never seen.
I probably never would have seen.
But you will now.
Yeah.
So it is coming.
It's coming next month.
We got two Patreon pick episodes
coming next month.
Let's just forget Tim.
Yes, Tim.
Tim has picked an amazing
trio of movies
that have nothing to do with each other
except that they are kind of awesome.
I love it.
Will you love the fanatic?
Yes.
We'll talk.
It's a terrible movie, but it's terribly
awesome.
Is it really terrible?
Or did they know what they were doing?
I guess we're going to
find out on the next viewing
because I feel like I kind
of enjoy it more every time
I watch it.
I've only seen it once, but
my memories
are fonder than it was when I watched
the movie.
I believe in Marcy
and Bean on their like
I could be underselling them. They could
be on their seventh or eighth
watch. Oh my
God.
Wow.
Okay, well, it's their own, I guess.
Anyways, spiral from the Book of Saul.
I will go first.
I am intrigued on what they're going to do.
I like majority of the cast, but Chris Rock,
we didn't really hear him speak in that teaser trailer,
but we get a lot more from him in this one.
I don't know if I'm going to be able to buy him as a lead detective.
He's done some great things.
outside of comedy.
But for something, something's just not lining up for me in this one.
It's because every time he tries to deliver some kind of serious line,
it sounds like the punchline of a joke.
How much for one rib?
Yeah.
We got a dead guy over here, but he's only got one rib.
And I kind of, I don't know.
kind of feel like Sam Jackson's
going to have something to do with the
killer.
Yeah, you're already getting that feeling, huh?
Yeah.
Well, I...
Samuel Jackson and Chris Rock, man.
I mean, it's going to be hard for it to be
bad. I hope it's good.
I'm worried that it's
going to be awful. Yeah, I
really...
Well,
the last couple of... Some movies have been pretty
pretty awful. Yeah, and that's why...
See, that's kind of my selling point here.
They were kind of done because of that.
Right.
But whatever idea he had, they were like, okay, let's run with it.
So that's what I'm banking on.
I mean, inject Samuel O'Jackson and Chris Rock into a saw movie.
Who doesn't want to watch that?
Well.
And I heard he's pretty good in that Fargo.
What is it, season four?
Oh, he's awesome in that.
That was one of the, that was actually one of the,
the best seasons of the show.
Isn't he like a gangster in that one?
Yeah, yeah, he is.
And he's, but he's very
human. It's like, um, very
relatable gangster. If you,
if you can imagine that, a super relatable
cold-blooded killer.
But you'll know
what I mean if you watch the series.
It's like Brian was saying, he's a good
actor. He can do this.
But there were like at least
two or three lines in this trailer.
Right. That sounded
exactly like a punchline from one of his jokes.
Like the same inflection.
There was a scene where he's,
I don't know if he's yelling at other cops or something,
but I was just kind of like,
are you about to say something funny?
Yeah.
I hope so.
But I will be there.
It's on the schedule.
I think this is our first official theater movie
that I was talking about.
And that release date is,
escaping me right now.
Fucking IMDB.
It doesn't matter.
They're going to push it. It comes out next month.
I hope it does.
I'll be there.
Now that I got my EMC thing going, I'll be at the theater.
Black Widow comes out.
May 14th.
Oh, yeah. I ain't paying 30 bucks to see Black Widow,
but I'll sure as fuck go and see it under my $20 a month plan.
Oh, hell.
What?
Are you taking the kids?
No.
No, they don't need to.
AJ maybe.
Because I'm going to tell them
you're going without them.
They're more
into the animated stuff, man.
I'm calling AJ.
You're making booby plans
and future without them.
They're not big Marvel fans.
AJ
I kind of lost her on Wanda Vision,
so we'll see what happens.
Black Widow looks cool with shit, though.
I mean, you know, from the one scene
that I've seen.
You got to see the new trailer?
Remember, we still have
Black Widow movie trailer coming out?
No, not the whole thing.
I think Taskmaster is going to be
fucking awesome in that.
I like his ability
how he just, he sees your
fighting style and instantly can do it.
That's cool.
It's, they
got me with the trailer.
I was not excited about a Black Widow movie
at all. The same way I wasn't
excited about Wanda Vision
or Falcon in the winter
soldier because... Oh gosh, that last
episode was amazing.
I haven't...
Don't say nothing.
Once again, I got behind. Please say
nothing, because this one I love so much more
than Wanda Vision.
Can I say a little something?
Yeah. Sure.
There's some cameos in there that, again,
I was not expecting.
Okay.
And Lance,
I want you, because
you grew up an X-Men fan.
There are some nods
to the X-Men universe in there.
Oh, now we're finally getting there, huh?
Yeah.
Wolverine better show up somewhere.
There's cameos, and then there's a couple of characters that I've been kind of waiting on,
because this season's only going to be six episodes,
and I was kind of like, where are certain characters, and great episode, great episode.
I think six episodes is perfect.
Stopping at six, move on to something else.
I guess Loki is next, right?
Uh, Loki is in June, I believe.
Okay, so we have something before that?
Like, um, I can't remember what else was on the docket.
It was supposed to be Black Widow.
Okay, but I mean, as far as like a series, mini series or whatever.
No, next one's Loki.
Okay, that's cool.
There's not a new series about the cat that used to live in the Avengers house?
No, it's coming next to it.
All right.
Just because they keep bringing up
Tertiary characters.
But they're doing a badass job, man.
I'm telling you, I'm excited about the Black Widow thing.
It looks cool shit.
All right.
Phil Zinn.
I'm in.
Lance.
I will see it at the theater.
Guaranteed.
It is.
I will let everybody know now.
I don't really release the action return schedule.
but it is on the docket.
As well it should be, right?
Yep.
And as far as trailers, that is it.
Let's just hope Chris Rock doesn't come off
about to tell the joke
and then we don't get the punchline.
So that's it for the trailers.
Have you seen who's killing these people?
I can't do a Chris Rock. I'm sorry.
All right.
you're going to get something from Sam
like tired of these motherfucking
traps in this motherfucking
house. Oh no. Oh God.
That's got to happen, right?
Something.
This motherfucking clown!
He already said
his catchphrase in the
teaser, so we know we're getting that.
Yeah. As well
as about 100 motherfuckers,
hopefully.
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I love their banter back and forth.
You already feel like they're...
I'm sure they were friends before this.
I don't know their relationship,
but you get that when you listen to it.
And, man, I wish I was just able to just freely say cunt whenever.
I know, right?
It is really cool when they do it.
And that's coming from Kate.
Yeah.
she was there were just a couple of cunts
I was just like
oh man
I think I tried to say it my wife was just like
what the fuck did you say
I was saying it in the British
English way
we're shutting that shit down right now
because she was asking me she was like
so what does it mean over there
because over here it's different
it's just like
throwing around the F word you know
Yeah, because shout out to Marcy
When she came on
The first thing she said was
Cunty McCuntface
Yes, which
We don't have that freedom to
I love that name
All right
And a little higher class
In our bag of dicks jokes
Yes, definitely check their podcasts out
Glad they finally got it out
Regarding Malvolia's movie
Matinees
Saturday night at 6 p.m. Malvolia, the Queen of Screams.
Thank you for sharing.
Anytime.
Yeah.
Regarding the Nighthouse.
There you go. Kate Pollack says,
so intrigued by this.
See, I told me the trailer looks cool, man.
Somebody else had to be intrigued.
I like it. I think a lot of people are
looking forward to this one, actually.
I guess.
And if I'm surprised by it,
I'll admit that I was wrong, but
just right now
like right now
Rebecca Hall's face is just
popping up in my head
and she looks super confused
right now in my mind
just give it time
talk the fuck out
is what she looks like
right
she doesn't know
what's going on right now
she's got hitting the face
by a bag of dicks
all right I'll stop
oh
regarding
that's the face right
oh my god
did that just happen
What?
She called it for Scars Guard.
There's monsters
fighting.
What?
Oh.
Whoa!
Yeah.
There was a lot of dumb scenes.
Regarding
Werewolf Toys
pictures posted by Brian,
Venice Spring.
What movie was that from, Brian?
They are, NECA is releasing figures for an American werewolf in London.
You get the werewolf and then Mike kind of hit us to,
okay, you remember the nightmare scene with the zombie Nazi shooting up everybody?
Oh, yeah.
They release pictures alluding that you got all four,
but you're only getting one with interchangeable heads.
Oh, okay.
Those interchangeable heads, man
Yeah, so if you want all four in your collection
You have to buy like four figures
And just
Put whatever head up
Yeah, which I think kind of sucks
I think they should just sell it as a four pack
Because I'd buy it
I will buy it
But I'm not buying four of them
Uh, well Venice
Spring says my favorite was always the one on the left
Do you remember which one that was?
Oh yeah
That one
Oh, that's that.
I like that one as opposed to the one on the right.
I didn't like that one.
Okay.
The VD Clinic says it's March, so you know what that means.
The VD Clinic.
Yeah, take your bag of dicks to the VD Clinic.
If you've already eaten your bag of dicks, go get the vaccine.
March
After John Cena's character
And suicide squad
They'll eat every one of them
In the name of the Christian
That man is a patriot
Uh
Jesus Christ
March Madness
With our annual guest
Bo Ransdale
Check that out
Awesome
Nice
the road to Jonestown, Jim Jones
and the people's...
Oh God.
Okay.
Bring this show up a little, huh?
By Jeff Gwynn.
Paired with the Ty West film,
The Sacrament from 2013.
Awesome.
I really, I saw it last year for the first time.
I could not believe that it took me that long
to get to that movie.
That movie...
What was that?
What did they call the character,
father, I think?
Yeah.
It creeped me the fuck out because it's a...
It looked realistic.
And stuff like that really does happen.
And it fucking creeped me out.
I think that, honestly, that might be my favorite Ty West movie.
I haven't seen it. I'll have to watch it.
I think it's on Prime.
Awesome.
Regarding Godzilla versus Kong, Tim Davis says,
Can't Wait to Hear Your Thoughts.
Matt Wood says fingers crossed.
It's awesome.
It's awesome.
Yeah, I can say that.
Don't worry about the fucking people, man.
There's monsters fighting, and it's awesome.
You don't have to worry about them.
They're just there.
Confused of what's going on.
Well, and there's a whole group of people that basically just,
the movie would have been no different at all without the minute.
They're just kind of comic relief.
and there for you to follow along
so you can see stuff.
Oh, I love the new characters, man.
I love the little deaf girl.
I love the podcast, dude.
Because anytime they put a podcaster in a movie,
it's like they're making fun of all of us, right?
I like they got an actual hearing-impaired girl
to play the part.
Yeah, that adds to it, man.
Although she about looked the same
in every scene that she was into.
She did have that one tear going on that one side every time.
Right.
On every scene that she was in.
And that is it for listener.
Is that it for listener feedback?
I thought we had another.
Fuck, I don't know, dude.
I could have sworn we had more feedback this week.
Who knows, man?
One more comment.
Here we go.
I found it.
from
nobody in particular
but they said
new listener love the show
and then you know
a couple of emojis so that's awesome
I guess that's a new review
I appreciate it guys
whoever you are
thank you
yes
we would have said your name but
we didn't get it or we can't find it
and I'm an idiot
so there's
Did you, uh, yeah, what, hold on, did you cover, uh, Jeff, Jeff, uh, Jeff, uh,
Jeff, uh, Learimore's feedback and, uh, Matt Wood's new feedback and Cameron Sullivan.
No, where's all that shit?
I just forwarded you the email because there were some stuff that came in under the wire.
Oh, everybody's getting a look behind the curtain here.
Oh, no.
It's the stuff that happens.
Yeah, check it out, man.
Because the last thing you talked about was Godzilla versus Kong, right?
Unfortunately.
All right.
So we got, let's see, Jeff Laramore.
I am loving listening to episode number one.
Very, very cool.
Thanks so much, which we were required to do to take the music out to keep from getting sued.
Download while you can, guys.
Suit for what?
It'll be available later, but just not to wait.
you can get it now.
I think we have something
about Lars and Sean Henry
after that.
Philip, did you get the
email I just sent you?
No, hang on.
This is great.
The horror returns.
There it is.
So apparently, I will continue
having to edit each show
and take stuff out.
No, leave this in.
You know, I'll take shit out.
Fuck them.
We're going, shout out
to binge media. We're going binge cast.
Leave it all in.
Oh, God. Three, four, five hour
shows? Is that what you're saying?
Oh, that's the full binge.
You gotta pay for that.
No, whatever's popping up. You go ahead and finish reading it, man.
That's whatever's pop up there is not coming up on my hand.
Okay, I'll, I'll do the rest of the feedback and then hand the mic back to you.
Is that cool?
All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do that.
As promised, all $5 and up.
patrons get a commentary of their choice.
Next up after Lars, because I think we're doing that next week,
if we can all find the fucking movie, which I can't so far.
So this could be interesting.
Cemetery man is on YouTube.
I will say everybody a link.
Then we should be good.
Okay.
Next up after Lars is Sean Henry.
And Sean says, if it's all right, I would like to do a,
and this is where Sean has my heart.
I would like to do a commentary on Texas chainsaw,
Massacre 2, and that's my personal favorite of the series, guys.
Underrated, very underrated.
I am free on Saturdays, Sundays, and Mondays, what date and time would work for you guys?
Also, out of curiosity, what prompted the possible change from Pod Bean?
We discussed it already, so.
No more discussing now.
All right.
Once we have our own website, we can say whatever the fuck we want about.
Somebody versal.
Yeah, until we get canceled.
Look, it was bound to happen eventually.
You know, you guys, we can't use...
But we don't charge the show, Phil.
I know, I know.
But we can't just copyrighted music.
We've been doing that forever, so...
It's the man.
Yeah.
He put his foot on our neck and just was like, pay us, or take it down.
They're coming down.
on us, go get them while you can, because we're pulling them down.
Honestly, I'm done talking about that
company because
we're just a...
I 100% appreciate
everybody for supporting us. We're just
a small show.
Just doing this for fun, and
we got taken down for a bunch of bullshit,
so I don't want to give
them anymore
of our time.
All right.
Yeah, eat a bag of dicks.
Yeah.
you didn't know the theme of the show
bag of dicks
they can eat
whatever John Cena left over
Alright
So this is
Not John Sina
Sorry wait hold on sorry
Not John Sina his character
I don't know
Back to Dix
Well you never know
You never know
You definitely can't see him
So there's hard
It's kind of hard to tell waste
That's how he's getting away with that
Who knows why mad men do what they do
So going back to what you guys talked about earlier with eternal darkness of the not so spotless minds.
Matt Wood says, if you've listened to our first episode, then you enjoy listening to my ramblings and then have a crack at this where I join my fabulous buddies across the pond as we talk about the original and the new version of Wrong Turn.
That's a show we did a couple of weeks ago, guys.
shout out to my brother's Lance, Brian, Philip, and Nez.
Not sure why they won't pop up in my feed right now.
That was it.
I'm talking about this.
It's fixed.
It's fixed, everybody.
It's fixed.
For now.
It's late in the UK.
I'm drunk as per usual, but it's all good fun.
All right.
Cameron Sullivan, and Brian, he's invited us to be on his show.
show. I'm going to join. If you guys have time, come with me.
Philip, are you in for
guesting on another podcast as well?
Yeah, man, if I've got time around working
kids and stuff. All right, well, Cameron Sullivan does
A... Children of Hell. He does a podcast called The Jacked Up Review Show.
Wednesday, April 14th, Erica, and I take on the original
indie film trilogy that is Hell.
House LLC.
We see those.
Yeah, we love them. We've interviewed the director.
Convincingly using a documentary look
instead of the sometimes infamous
found footage subgenre look, it also
created its own plot twist and
is not restricted by its budget.
Was there a single week entry
or was it altogether rather
solid? Is there bad acting
or is it without any glaringly awful
factors? Could it have been
two movies instead of three?
Should you rent them on Amazon or bother getting a shutter account?
All this and tons more awesomeness.
And then our buddy Bo Randstale pitches in,
your old pal Bo here ended up on Jay versus Horror talking about animal attack movies.
God, I hope they covered the Pet Cemetery Remake.
All right.
That animal didn't attack anybody.
That's true.
But it's such a great movie.
It deserves to be talked about anyway.
Not like.
Avalanche sharks
All right, check out
Jay versus horror on YouTube
And can I say
real quick, is it just me
Or
Does it seem like Samantha Bean
Should be on every podcast
That talks about Hellhouse LLC?
Oh, absolutely.
She turned up to talk to horror period.
One final comment here, Philip,
before I turn it back to you, regarding the void,
which I've got to recede,
because I love Psycho Gorman so much.
Kate Pollock says,
well, this was fucking awesome.
So there you go.
I love your tasting movies.
The Void?
Yes.
Yeah, I'm going to go rewatch it.
I think I just got freaked out
by that one weird hospital scene
where the cult showed up
and surrounded the hospital.
And I don't know why.
It just turned me off,
but I'm going to rewatch it.
I promise.
Yeah, I say giving a,
another watch. Yeah, there's influences from Hellraiser, the thing, and other movies, but
what's wrong with that? Nothing. And then after that, go watch Cycle Gorman, which I will
announce now. Right now, I totally forgot. My mind's kind of everywhere. I am switching up
the giveaway. You will have a chance if your name is picked for a iTunes review,
preferably five stars.
Which we haven't had any lately.
I will post it this weekend.
You'll see the posting before you hear this show.
You will have a choice of
the shining steel book,
Blu-ray, Monster Hunter.
Holy shit.
Or Psycho Gorman.
I know what I would pick.
Hunky boys. That's what I'm going to pick.
Phil, have you seen Psychogorberman?
No, I'm like...
You're missing out, dude.
Trying to think up a five-star review to put out there and pretend to have a fake name.
I think you can watch it with the kids, huh?
Lance?
Ah, he.
It's like kind of borderline.
Yeah.
It's borderline.
It starts out like a teenage, not teenage meat, Ninja Turtles.
It starts out like a...
God damn it.
What was that show
with the Red Ranger and the Green
Reader? Oh, Power Rangers.
Yes, yes.
Imagine the Power Rangers
but like fucked up.
Like Onassis.
Well, it's awesome.
Trust me.
I love it.
Gorman is not sure
about honky boys.
I hate
hunky boys.
You'll love it.
Or do I?
I feel another
the bag of dicks reference coming on.
It's good fun, though.
You should check it out.
Not the bag of dix.
Bag of dix is not fun.
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Yep.
Sounds awesome.
Blue-rays, right?
Blue-rays.
Blue-rays.
My bad.
I'm old.
Fuck you want.
say and we've had a request
somebody had asked
I should start writing this stuff down
sorry I forgot your name but they
asked are we going to have any
exclusive content
on Patreon
well
special reviews or anything like that
very much up in the air right now
yeah I don't know
because I like I like getting our
content out to everybody
and then I do too I feel like
Patreon could be more of an interactive thing.
So, you know, even if you guys have a suggestion,
hey, like, let's do a commentary
on a movie that you want to pick with us.
I'd totally be down for something like that.
I think that would be fun.
So what you're saying is,
whoever suggested that can go eat a big bag of dicks.
No, that's not what he's saying.
I mean, unless you want to,
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But we'll just forget that last thing.
That'll be like a grand prize winner.
Yeah, if you donate $5,000.
Yes.
We'll fly you out to Texas Frightmare.
But now we'll ignore that last comment.
And roll on to featured attractions.
Yes.
This week we talk about psychological horror.
AKA crazy-ass white women.
Yeah, there you go.
We're going to start out with the hand that rocks the cradle.
Rebecca DeMorne.
Yes, yes.
Yes.
After her humility...
Must prefer her subway scene in the movie at Top Cruise.
Oh, risky business.
There it is.
young. If I had a subway scene with Rebecca
in the morning, I might dance around the house of my socks and underwear.
Sometimes, Brian, sometimes you just got to say, what the fuck?
Absolutely. I mean, I haven't seen her in the past few years,
but she still looks good from the last...
Okay, before we, you read the rest of the trivia,
I kind of had a thing for her when I was younger.
Oh, yeah. And that scene in American, what is it,
American Pie Reunion or American Reunion?
Okay.
You know how Stifler was always
Oh yeah
Fitch was always fucking Stiffler's mom
She shows up as
Finch's mom
And Stifler bangs her
And I was so fucking jealous
There's also
Side note
I mean, listen
We've already gone down the bag of dicks hole
So
That came out wrong
Dixon
Dix and Hove came out of your mouth
there's a
there's a porn star
from
the late 80s
early 90s
I don't know
who she is
I care
that looks like her
and it looks
just like her
yeah don't
don't ask how I know
but yeah
wow dude
fantastic
anyway
all right
the hand that rocks
the cradle
after
no pun intended
after her husband
kills himself
Listen, I was a young man. What do you want?
Ouch.
An embittering pregnant widow loses her child
and embarks on a mission of vengeance
against a woman and her family.
Director is Curtis Hanson,
also known for the River Wild and 8 Mile.
Eight Mile with Eminem?
Yeah.
Completely different for that movie.
Wow. Okay.
Ryder is Amanda Silver,
also known for Rise of the Planet of the Apes.
and Jurassic World.
Damn.
Yes, you got a resume.
Heavy hitters.
Kevin Spacey was considered
for the role of Michael
Bartel.
And I imagine they're glad they didn't do that.
Ay, aye, aye.
The film is parodied
in the Wayans Brother comedy series
in Living Color
during the skit,
the fist that rocks the cradle.
I do not remember that one.
Oh, yeah,
yeah.
Man.
We're going to
Memory Lane tonight.
Oh, man.
I kind of have to go watch that now.
Oh, dude.
That was my fucking, I think it was Sunday night, right?
That, the Simpsons.
Yeah.
Well, even before the Simpsons, the Tracy Olman show.
Yeah.
The Simpsons started.
Oh, man.
I love it.
And then you got Married with Children.
Oh, married with children.
How could I forget that?
Wow.
And Living Color is the best out of all those.
Man, that thing was iconic.
Mm-hmm.
all right well uh brian will start with you what did you think about the hand that rocks the cradle
i love this movie i think it's a great psychological thriller um i like everybody in it i think
everybody fits their role rebecca de morne she's fucking hot as shit in this movie i don't fucking
and crazy i don't care i'm kind of root for her even though her husband was a big piece of
shit. Right.
And I did not feel bad when he killed himself.
Oh, well, yeah.
Q from St. Trek.
Yeah, I, but I kind of wanted a little more backstory on her because she just, just how
devious and.
Yeah.
Wait, she was.
I'm like, did you, did this drive you to that?
Or were you always a little bit like this, you know?
I got to think she's always been a little bit like that.
Yeah.
Because you get that scene where she's talking to the lawyers and they're talking about,
oh, they're seizing your assets and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Then she gets up and then he's like, oh, can I help you?
And then she just glars at him.
I was like, yeah, there's been something there.
You and your husband has an interesting relationship going on because you guys were both kind of fucked up.
Yeah.
What is the other actress?
I can't think of her name.
And the Bellis Scuioora?
Yes.
Yeah.
It's very hard for me to see her in that kind of role
because the main thing I know her from
is when she was on the Sopranos.
Oh, okay.
Super fucking hot that one and crazy.
She was basically Rebecca DeMorne in that.
Yeah.
And she's the complete opposite in here.
But I like the whole dynamic of how she's just this
very nice kind of a,
be able to just get things over on her
because she's just so nice
stay at home mom
that just live in life
and then you just enter
Rebecca de Bourne's character Peyton
and she's just out to destroy
your life and I like how they
alluded up to the point where you thought
she wanted to kill
the family
but really what she wanted to do was
take her family
because that's what she felt like she did
to her was take her family.
I love Ernie Hudson's character
Solomon. That's
a good guy and he's very handy
around the house.
The only
other character I didn't really care for
was the husband because he's kind of
I don't know.
Blame. Kind of douche.
Yeah. Yeah.
He was just so plain.
Yeah, and then he had that
Rebecca Hall moment when
he got
Peyton,
standing there in her wet nightgown
telling you, you only need one
woman, and he's just like, huh?
But overall,
I thought it was a great
psychological thriller.
I liked her just
basically planning
all this stuff, you know, getting
Solomon kicked out the house, because that was
fucked up. The whole
daughter's underwear in his
whatever trailer thing
that he had was bike.
Yeah, that was some dirty moves right there, man.
I do question, what is it, Julianne Moore?
I question her death scene because I didn't feel like that should have killed her,
especially the way it looked like it happened.
A little bit of glass falling on her or whatever.
Yeah, but the way they showed it, it looked like she was fine.
And then they never shut her body, so I don't know.
I thought that was kind of weak.
They did for a second, but it wasn't, it was, you know, she just had some blood on her and that was it.
And I thought the, I will say, I thought the conclusion was kind of anticlimactic, just kind of ended.
Yeah, that's true.
Would it like a little bit more.
But overall, this is like one of my favorite psychological thrillers and Rebecca DeMorne, I wish you would do more because I think you're still hot now.
Dude, she was like the mom in some surfer show on HBO that only aired for a season.
I can't remember the name of it.
She was the mom in that movie, that skateboard movie.
What was it?
Ness is yelling at me right now.
Yeah.
Phil, are you talking about that John from California or whatever that?
Yes.
HBO show was called.
Okay.
I didn't know she was in there.
Such a good show.
Yeah?
Yeah, I can't believe they canceled it.
Anyway.
And then also a skateboarding movie, huh, Brian?
Yeah, I'm trying to think of it.
The one with the skaters that started it in California?
Yeah.
Yeah, and I can't remember the name of it either, and I'm kicking myself for that.
Nes, I feel you.
Uh-uh.
Yeah, Nes is yelling at you.
All right.
Yeah, I think it's great.
this is one of my favorites
Lance what did you think
you think
you know
Lords of Dogtown
sorry
Lords of Dogtown
there it is
you know what
I'd rather watch
Lords of Dogtown
a hundred times
than watch this piece of shit
one more time
well I would too
but that doesn't necessarily
I mean this movie's bad
this movie is fucking horrible Brian
what did you do to us here man
this was
Oh my God, dude.
This was like,
I guess I better settle down
because Brian really loved it.
So I don't want to get too far out.
Come on, bring it because I feel like you're in a minority.
I hope I'm in a minority.
You ask anybody.
No, this was a huge movie when it came out.
It made great money at the box office.
I remember it was a really big movie
when it came out on HBO and everything like that.
but uh
Jesus Christ
man
other than showing Q
from Star Trek
being a complete horn dog
at the beginning
and like
putting his finger
to pussy and stuff like
like
I don't know man
it just didn't grab me dude
it just to me it felt
it felt like a
giant piece of shit
not a Hallmark channel movie
lifetime
yeah it just
it just felt like a lifetime
movie to me
and god damn it dude
Annabella Scour
or not Annabelle Scorer
but the
fucking Julianne Ward's character
if she could die from a little bit of glass
falling on her from a goddamn greenhouse
and that fucking ribgobor
contraption
that Rebecca Demore
I set up to bed
I wouldn't go that far
come on man
she just wedged a shovel into the lever
that was it
ay aye aye aye
oe vee I hated this movie
sorry
didn't care for it.
Do you see Phil?
Do you see what I'm talking about?
I don't know where he's going sometimes.
That's true.
I will say Ernie Hudson was good,
playing the character that he played.
Kind of like radio.
Who wasn't that played radio?
Remember that?
He wrote his bicycle.
Oh, yeah.
I mean, of course you're going to love a character like that, right?
Because he's totally innocent.
He's like the ultimate innocent character,
and they set him up.
I just thought everything was,
like way over the top here.
Like she was way too evil.
He was way too innocent.
The husband was way too milk toast.
The wife was way too stupid.
I don't know, man.
It just didn't grab me.
The daughter was way too young.
Baby was way too.
What are you talking about?
Well, no, I get it.
It's a very soap opera-e type of story.
You know what I mean?
Like, I was waiting for the evil twin to show up.
but we'll get to that movie yeah it comes next and it's it's it's a genre of like thriller movies
you know that that are also very soap opera e and very lifetime movie e and uh i i i kind of don't
hate it for that man i think it was a fun story um i rebecca de morne was perfect for that role
like super in control and vicious and still hot
but like a total bitch at the same time
yeah because she she did things that
she did what her character needed to do
right put the hotness to the side for a second
she did what she needed to do for that character
to not like her and say somebody like
Ernie Hudson-Solomac character
you were rooting for him
Yeah.
Especially when she did what she did to him, you know, she, I'm not going to be politically correct.
You know, she called him the R word and slapped him in the face and told him, don't fuck with me.
Yeah.
Because they'll never believe any story.
My story will be way better than anything you'll come up with.
And then she came up with a story and it was fucked up.
I don't know how many people they could have put in that role that would have worked
as well.
Cuba.
Radio.
No, I mean, Rebecca DeMorne.
Oh, no.
Yeah.
Don't put him in that role.
Because she was, yeah, no.
Because, I mean, she was
otherwise
they would have just come across as totally hateable
because, I mean, the poor girl in this movie
was just
trying to live her life
and do the right thing and be nice.
Right. Right.
And the only thing that
she did was
call somebody out on their shit
and then her life
got totally turned upside down and ruined
because of it. Yeah.
The Me Too movement, right?
Yeah. And it was much needed
because then you hear, right before he kills
himself, you hear on the news
that he's done this to multiple
multiple, man. Okay.
Sometimes when one comes forward, so
the rest of them.
Here's a point I have, guys.
What's his? Cosby.
here's a point
I have, Brian.
Did he kill himself?
Because I could have sworn it was a female hand
that I saw reached across for that knife or whatever.
So she would put all that undue stress on herself?
I don't know, man.
I just had a weird feeling.
Now you're making it into a lifetime film.
Maybe I am too.
I just had a weird feeling.
No, I felt like he was such a fucking shitty-ass person.
that he finally got caught and
he didn't want to
deal with it anymore. Yeah, there
you go. Yeah. Thank you. And took
himself out and
all the stress of her husband killing himself.
Because who knows, maybe she
was denying that he
ever did anything.
Since he killed himself. It was never
proven. Right.
And then, you know, they seize all the assets
and tell her, oh,
you know, you can stay in your house until you have the baby.
And then after that, you know, you have to get the fuck off.
Oh, yeah, that's true.
Which I'm assuming since she had a miscarriage, they told her to get the fuck out.
And, you know, it sucks for her too, because her husband's a piece of shit and...
Yeah.
She's kind of a...
She's kind of the hero.
Every aspect of her life, you know?
She's kind of the hero of the movie, Brian, if you think about it.
Oh, I do think about it when she's in that wet nightgown.
Uh-huh.
I will say this.
She's still a very despicable character, though.
Yeah, but Annabella Skewer's husband was a fucking idiot,
not to at least grab onto that shit when he had the chair.
I'm sorry,
I'm a happily married man, but God damn it,
if I had that sitting in front of me,
I can't say what I would do.
Don't put yourself in the situation, guys.
I will say he was very, like you said, Phil, cardboard.
Yeah.
But they were the, I think they did play that role perfectly.
They were the, I guess, the picture perfect couple.
Right.
And that's, that's kind of what he was supposed to be.
You know, he's the good guy who, even though maybe he did some things that the wife was,
uh, what's the word I'm looking for?
What are you trying to say, Bill?
Well, there was some questionable things.
Like, there's no way that I'm going to.
be best friends with my ex and constantly
hang out with her all the time and my wife's
just going to be like thumbs
up. Go ahead.
Where are you at? Oh, I'm
with such and such. We're
meeting up having some drinks.
I'll see you later.
Now, I mean, to be fair,
he was setting up a surprise party and that's
I guess where they were planning it or whatever.
So, I mean, in the end,
he was the good guy. But again, don't put
yourself in that fucking situation.
It's not going to end right.
I mean
I'll give him that
He seemed pretty strong
Because he resisted her
Yeah
But that views like
Oh
Which is God
Well that's why he had the dumb look on his face
He's like
God damn it no
So you're trying to say that he
His dick should have gone into that bag
I think he
I don't think he was already in that bag
already in there.
Okay.
But, no,
I, I, I, I, I did enjoy watching it.
It was, it was a pretty good movie, man.
I, I always enjoy the thrillers.
It's, it's not exactly my genre, but I,
they're always fun when I watch them.
So, I'll take it.
I was happy.
Nice. I'm glad you guys got something out of this one.
Scores.
That's not to be interesting.
Brian?
This is it.
No, no, no, no.
I address my problems.
I do have some problems with the story and that certain blandness of certain people.
I don't know why I keep wanting to say Rebecca Hall, but it's not.
It's not Rebecca Hall right now.
That's why.
She would have totally been wrong for this movie.
It would have just been a bunch of people standing around like, what?
What's happening?
Yeah, with their mouths open, right?
I did enjoy the story.
I'm a big fan and still a big fan of Rebecca DeBorne.
And I think everybody did what they were supposed to do in this movie and give it a seven and a half.
Damn.
Okay.
Lance, what do you think?
Here we go.
You know what?
I actually kind of, I'll give it a three.
It's not, it's not like garbage.
It's not like pure trash.
It's pretty damn close to it.
No, but you know what?
No, for me, for me, garbage is a one or one and a half.
But this was okay, man.
It was, it was, it was one third good.
How about that?
Rebecca de Morne was, was definitely good in the role.
The husband was horrible.
Worst acting ever.
Okay, let's, let's really talk about it.
Was he horrible at acting?
Or was it just that his,
character was just vanilla.
I liked Ernie Hudson. I will
say this. This is one thing I can
say, and you'll never hear this for my lips again.
I actually thought Julianne was...
I thought Julianne was pretty sexy in this movie, because I
do not like pale
women. I'm not a fan of pale
white, super white, pale women.
That's not my cup of tea.
We didn't really talk about her role. I think she did
her job. She looked kind of hot in this one, actually.
she played her character because her character
was the like we said the husband's
ex who is somehow
friends with everybody and that added
and that added to the story I mean that
I get that I understand why the wife was jealous
and my I will say the whole
the whole seeing the wind chime thing
in the that was silly
in the picture that was fucking stupid like
yeah that was a stretch like there's only one
wind chime
Well, I would give this a two.
She likes wind chimes two.
Hmm.
I would give this movie.
I would give this movie a two, but since Q was in it, it goes up to three, period.
I'm such a trick.
Yeah, give it an extra point for the molesty guy.
Yeah, sticking his finger off her pussy when he's on that.
Who in the hell would finger a pregnant woman?
He's checking out.
I mean, that's another one.
level of sickness. Yeah, I'm not trying to be too graphic, but you can just see how much he enjoyed it.
I mean, he was like rubbing her belly and just...
He took his gloves off.
Which...
Everybody got their kink, I guess.
It already got uncomfortable with the breast exam, because you can clearly see he was not examining her breasts.
Yeah.
Well, right, and that's what I was saying. It was like a perfectly...
like she did what she should have done.
Yeah.
And I like her the way she was before she reported it because she was like,
what if I'm wrong?
Yeah.
And then the husband was like, do you think you're wrong?
She was like, no.
Because of course she didn't think.
She immediately came home and took a shower because she felt dirty.
Yeah.
The only thing missing was Sam's
I'm sorry.
We're going to skip that line.
I don't know.
We're going to hit our explicit.
So much for now for editing.
No, the only thing missing was him.
Oh, we're getting canceled for sure now.
We're going out with a fucking bang.
I'm kind of scared here.
Come on, Lance.
What are you trying to say?
Did we break plants?
Probably.
Great balls of fire
Rance, we're losing him.
While we wait.
Stip his finger.
I don't know if I want to know where this thing is going.
Okay.
Bill,
I'll ask you score.
He's just looking for the baby, man.
Oh man
No I thought he's going to sniff his finger after he
Oh
Okay I'm done
Moving on
Maternity
All right
Now that we're way off the fucking rails
I'm gonna give it a seven
A seven
A seven
Yeah, I think so
It was
Hard to do for a
Lifetime type movie
This looks like it could have been straight on
lifetime, on lifetime
Except the cast was
full of people that it shouldn't have been full of, you know?
So they're the ones that raised it to where it was.
And it was an enjoyable movie for me, man.
I liked it.
I didn't think I was going to be as happy with this week as, you know, when I first started,
when I first saw what movies we were watching, I was like, ah, fuck me, here we go.
My wife didn't even want to watch them.
Right?
She loves that shit.
Yeah, I was about to say, that should have been right up her alley, right?
Oh, yeah.
But, no, I watched them both last night, and I really enjoyed myself, man.
It was a good movie.
There you go.
I'm the odd man out.
A three is kind of borderline trash.
Yeah.
It's not bad, dude.
Three, three really is not that.
It needs to be three is like you almost need to take it to the.
dumpster.
Okay.
Well, you know.
Maybe
if you'd stiffed his finger,
it would have
pushed this up there for me.
All right.
This week.
All right.
We're moving on
to single white female.
That seems
weirdly specific.
Hey.
know plans to be able to make it through this
he's going to say something
that sets me off
we're going to get banned for sure
all right
single white female
single white female
a woman advertising
for a new roommate finds that something
very strange is going on with the tenant
who decides to move in
uh director
is Barbette Schroeder
also known for Barfly and Kiss of Death
You guys heard of those?
Barfly was a good movie
MAKY Rourke was in a couple of years
Yeah
Yeah I do know Barfly
I don't know the other one though
Okay
Writer is Don Ruse
Also known for Boys on the Side
And Happy Endings
Wow
Boys on the side
Happy Endings
Boys on the side.
Is that a...
No, that's boys riding in the...
What's the Drew Barrymore one?
I feel like we're back to our
bag of dicks joke.
Yeah, let's keep it moving.
The BDS...
Wow, here we go.
The BDSM Club exterior...
There we go.
Was from a former
real Manhattan S&M club
called the Vault.
Of course it.
A.K.A. the Hellfire Club.
In...
in the meat
packing district
of Greek witch village
Oh
I'm not a joke
That's real
trivia and make up fake shit
Because this can't be true
Before we get off rails
Whoever's listening
Like explain the meat packing district
Because when I hear that
I'm picturing like
Where they like
P butcher and sell raw meat
It's where they pack meat, man.
Yeah, but when you watch
fucking all these movies, there's like all these
damn clubs and shit.
Right?
Yeah, why is there a bunch of clubs in the
meatpacking district? Yeah, somebody
explained that to me.
Because wasn't
American Psycho? Wasn't that
that club they went to?
Wasn't that in the meatpacking
district?
I'm sure it was.
The one where they were
doing Coke in the bathroom.
Oh, my God, dude.
It's, let's government
regulations.
Hughie Lewis in the news, man.
The interior
is a set, but the red signature
V is on one of the walls.
The entrance used was from
a gay club side called
The Manhole.
There we go.
All right.
Whoopi Goldberg
auditioned for the role of Allison Jones.
What?
Wait, which one was Alice Jones?
That was a totally different movie.
That was.
Bad chick, right?
No, that was Bridget Fonda.
Oh, okay.
Oh, okay.
Oh, wait, which one was Alice?
Oh, Allison Jones was the main chick.
Yeah, whoopee's, she's a good actress, but I don't think it would work.
Right?
Huh?
She would have been the great as the kook.
The crazy bitch, right?
Yeah, but.
Oh.
I would have loved it.
I bet you she could pull that off, too.
You know, now that I'm thinking
I would love to see
Whoopi in a movie where she's taking
like a villainous turn.
Like a real, because I think she can
really pull it off. I bet you she
could. I guarantee you she can play
crazy. How is she
in the stand? I'm going to tell you
right now, guys, after seeing the
new Stan miniseries,
she's a great actress.
She really is.
I've always loved Whoopie.
He has no eyebrows.
that's true
all right single white female
uh brian we'll start with you again what do you think
uh this is another one i enjoy i don't love it
but i thought it was a good story you got the
another i i guess uh similar to the first movie
very trusting character
because you get elements where
she's kind of walked over walked on by her
was it that her husband or her
boyfriend?
I think it was just her boyfriend.
Okay, they were supposed to get married.
Yeah.
Okay, kind of walked over by him, kind of sexually harassed.
He's a little afraid, afraid to actually get the ring, right?
Right.
Yeah, kind of sexually, well, not kind of sexually harassed, sexually harassed by her employer.
Oh, yeah.
You kind of find out her owner employer, kind of.
That guy, man.
You kind of find out her former employer before then, kind of,
took credit for all her work
to the point where he's not paying
her her same rate as she
was getting before. So just
kind of maybe overly trusting,
overly nice kind of character
and then you get
Jennifer Jason Lee who
is a fucking weirdo
from the moment you meet her. There's
something off, which always threw me
about the movie because
she's about to call the one
girl
who I don't even think you catch her name.
that seemed like the best out of all the applicants.
And then you just kind of go with this girl who just walks into your home without even knocking or anything.
And it seems very strange to herself.
And that always kind of threw me why you went with her instead of the most normal applicant out of all those wacky-ass people that came to look at her house,
especially the one kind of butch chick that was talking about knocking down walls.
and I don't know if you got caught that part.
We definitely caught that.
And, and you know, this was 1992,
so making fun of gay people was a lot more accepted back then.
So, yeah, the total butch, right?
Yeah.
Well, did she necessarily make fun of anybody?
I mean, they probably took some.
I made fun of somebody.
Oh.
I think they made, took liberties that they wouldn't now with that.
I don't know.
Could be my imagination.
on it.
I don't think you
get it.
I don't think you can make this movie now.
Probably not.
And this is the second,
this is the second movie this week
because we got a,
me and Nez got a review coming
where bad things
happen to a puppy
and it really upset me.
That was rough.
You know, did John Wick?
No, but now you're bringing that
into my head and that's, in my
mind, that's three dogs that
meet their demise.
Yeah.
Dude, that was a hard scene in this movie.
Yeah, and then you got the scene where clearly she's a different person when, what is, what is her name?
Allie's not around.
And so, and then she just gets jealous of the dog because, you know, the dog's kind of into Allie more.
Right.
And you got to where she essentially just kind of kicks the dog across the room.
Well, not kick, but, you know, forcibly moves with her foot.
Yeah.
Yeah.
That was actually pretty telling how, like, she was,
one way when she was around
a different way when she was alone with the dog.
Yeah, which you got to do your research.
You got to call references.
And the only thing I didn't care for was this whole
backstory about the twin.
Because I felt like it really
commented me that much.
I feel like that sort of set the tone, though, because
she wanted... I thought so too, man.
Yeah, she wanted somebody to latch
on to be her best friend until the day that they die,
you know? You're right.
Friends to the end.
Yeah, but you don't go
suck off your friend's
boyfriend.
Well, that's a good point.
He didn't exactly stop her, did he?
No, and he
didn't last that long either.
I probably wouldn't have either.
Yeah, that's a hard
situation.
No pun intended.
She looked like she did a pretty good job.
Great death scene, though,
with the heel of the shoe in the eye.
Talking about a bag of dicks.
All right, all right, all right.
But the only thing that doesn't,
there's a few things that I don't like.
I don't like how when she was,
basically she was at the point where her roommate has to go.
She felt so bad about it.
And I'm like,
there hasn't been that much time.
That's true.
For you guys to develop a relationship.
where you felt bad.
But has there been?
I mean, there might have been more time, you know, than, you know, a movie's a movie, right?
Yeah, I mean, we did get the montage of them eating ice cream.
But yeah, the puppy was still a puppy.
Yeah.
Ah, okay, that's true.
That's true.
That kind of dates it, right?
A week went by after a week.
I'm like, I'm sorry.
It didn't work out.
Yeah.
But get the fuck out.
Yeah.
and try not to kill my fucking dog on your way out.
Yeah, and don't kill my best friend that's upstairs.
Did he live?
I don't know.
Hell no.
No, the dog definitely didn't live.
I don't know, man.
It's hard to tell.
They didn't really flesh that out.
He kind of zombieed himself back to life there for a minute.
Yeah, because my memory was that when he woke up, he saved her.
And then she killed him real, but rewatching it, I was kind of unsure.
Yeah.
Either way, this bitch was crazy.
Yes.
Headie.
Yeah.
No pun intended.
And I will say, Hetty Swallows.
And I will say, Hetty swallows.
I knew.
get you on board.
All right.
Yeah, man.
I...
I like this movie.
It was...
I thought that the transition
between, you know, when she
changed her hair and all that, and got
all this confidence. Oh, yeah, that got
creepy, huh? And it was like, yeah,
kind of taken over her persona.
Yeah, and then... When she went to her closet,
like, she had the same exact fucking
outfits. Not only
the same clothes bought, but the
same outfits put together.
Yeah, like where you've been, neighbors have been
seeing her walking down the hall and think it was the same
person. Yeah. Well,
because why would you not? You know, I mean,
they look pretty goddamn similar.
And then I
thought that towards
the end when she, it was like a last
little kick in the gut when she's like, well,
nobody even knows that I'm here. Everything's in
your name. People think that I'm
you.
That was well. That was well done.
That was well done. I like that.
So it was like more than just crazy.
It was crazy and conniving.
So that was kind of cool.
But there was just times when I don't know.
You got you got to get out and get away.
Yeah.
Like when she finds out she's going back with the boyfriend and she,
her whole demeanor and tone just changes and she calls her funny beat.
And then tries to go back to, oh, I'm sorry.
I didn't, I didn't mean it.
You know, I'm like, this bitch is crazy.
Yeah.
There were definitely some warning signs
and you probably should have changed some shit.
Might have missed them, huh?
Immediately.
All right.
You're obviously nuts.
Bye.
But, hey, then the movie wouldn't have happened.
Because.
Lance, what'd you think?
I kind of like this one.
I really enjoyed the acting.
I will say this.
I'm a, I'm a, I've got to.
a huge crush on Bridget Fonda
and I have
god damn I guess since the 90s
and my wife would tell you
she knows that I think she's super hot
and I think
not to mean I don't mean to cut you off
but you know what's weird about her
I always found her kind of one note
in her roles but I don't
find her to be a bad actress
yeah
I you know what she was in that one that was
the remake of Lafam Nikita
remember that
I can't remember what it was called,
but I went to see that one in the theater with my wife,
and I was like, holy shit, she's hot.
And she was like, she hit me on the arm.
I remember that.
She was like, shut up.
Point of no return.
Point of no return, yes.
And Jennifer Jason Lee,
I know for a fact that Nez had wet dreams about her
when he was a kid,
because he stole me.
Stephen Weber,
Stephen Weber is, in my opinion.
all right just my opinion
one of the worst actors in the history
of acting he's terrible
shit
I just now realize that was Stephen Weber
oh he's so bad
I don't know why
that TV show wings and
like a couple of Stephen King
miniseries and stuff like that but he's so bad
oh yeah that guy
so one note to me I don't know
oh gosh he was Jack Tornson
the the Shining mini series
oh my God but he did have
fantastic hair.
Which is
why he got cast for everything, I'm sure.
I'm going to tell you what
made this movie for me, Brian.
And this is why it's not
two losses in a row.
Stephen Tubelowski.
What a fucking
horn dog.
What a jerk.
I mean, holy shit.
He's over here like
rubbing her on her, on her, on her
shoulder blades and like uh oh yeah he's so so he's so bad he's very and i love him he's bad
in a good way and it was interesting the way he played the character because he was obviously very
rapy in hansy but he almost came off the word i was looking for he almost came off kind of i don't know
if this is the right word uh flamboyant just kind of i don't know maybe it was the position i don't know
Were they in fashion or something?
He may be an equal opportunity rapist.
I don't mean like, I don't mean like that.
I just meant he was very, I don't know how to put it.
I don't know how to put it either, but I get that vibe too.
I know exactly what you're saying, dude.
Yeah, I don't know if it was the position of his job that kind of made him kind of arrogant.
Because I don't mean to be disrespectful to the actor.
I mean, he's not a handsome man.
He's a great actor.
I love him.
He's not a handsome man, but...
I need him and I love him.
He's so creepy.
Yeah, he's not a handsome man, but
the way he came off,
like, women should be just
beating him off
with a stick because he's so
irresistible and you're going to want this.
And yeah, he
definitely was a
standout character in this one.
I definitely had fun
with this movie. I definitely enjoyed
this one and I love the way that
she came in there
and she wormed her
way in slowly but surely and then
she had the same haircut, the same wig,
the same dress.
Yeah, this was
a big step up from the other movie,
in my opinion. I definitely
enjoyed it a lot more, so
good pick here, Brian.
Can I say,
can I say their neighbors ain't shit?
You guys are going to complain
because of a lot of music, but not over
gunshots.
I didn't even think about that.
Oh, my God.
I didn't even think about that.
Oh, wow.
This is, it's, it's like an inadvertent comedy, isn't it?
Oh, I think.
Is that it?
Unless you're having Dan DeHan showing up in the next movie.
I'm out.
Let's do it.
We're going to remake one.
Dane DeHan would have been
a Stephen Weber role.
Yeah.
The same blank look on his face, right?
No,
Dane's more like,
can somebody give me a blanket and a pillow
because I need to lay down.
Yeah, that heroin is rough.
Yeah, put some,
what do they do?
Put cucumbers on the eyes, get rid of them bags.
Something like that.
Night before it was pretty rough
for d.
Wow, this turned into a lot
longer show than I thought it was going to, guys.
I guess we had a lot to talk
about with all our changes coming, huh?
Well, we did break
you for a second there.
I know that the wife is asking me to
please come color some eggs with her.
Okay.
Let's get the
scores. I was first, huh?
Yeah.
Didn't like it as much as
the hand of rocks the cradle, but I thought
it was a pretty good psychological thriller, liked the story.
There was a couple things I was a little bit confused with,
but talking about it with you guys.
I was going to give a six and a half,
but I'll bring it up to a seven.
Damn, that's a good score, man.
Yeah, I think I'm going to stick with that six and a half score.
I didn't like it quite as much as the hand that rocks the cradle.
But, I mean, interesting storyline.
Still, another...
The hand that rocks the bag and dicks.
Still a lifetime movie,
scope opera-e kind of thing.
Right.
It's all in the same vein.
And it works in this one too.
So a good movie.
I liked it.
Definitely worth watching.
Fond to re-watch.
Lance?
This one I will give a six and a half.
I definitely enjoyed it.
This is not where I thought you were going.
No, I enjoyed it a lot more than I didn't.
I think there was a lot.
a lot more intelligence
at the script on this one and
better acting.
So six and a half for me.
What, what three, three and a half
or something for the first one?
Three?
Yeah, so essentially
gave a 10 to both movies.
There we go.
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you can look at it that way.
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