The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #254: Psychological Horror, Part 1: The Hand That Rocks The Cradle (1992) & Single White Female (1992)

Episode Date: April 6, 2021

This week, we take our first look at psychological horror, with The Hand That Rocks the Cradle and Single White Female. Cool of the Week includes The Suicide Squad trailer, Godzilla Vs Kong, and Raya ...and the Last Dragon. Trailers this week are The Night House and Spiral From the Book of Saw. The podcast spotlight shines on Eternal Darkness of Not So Spotlight Minds. And we get feedback from Malvolia the Queen of Screams, VeniceSprings, The VD Clinic, Tim Davis, Matt Wood, Jeff Larrimore, Sean Henry, Cameron Sullivan, Bo Ransdale, and Kate Pollock. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/@thehorrorreturnspodcast3277 THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR X: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= THR TeePublic: https://www.teepublic.com/user/the-horror-returns SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 E Society Spotify For Podcasters: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/esoc E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, this is Bruce Campbell, and you are listening to The Horror Returns. Greetings, victims. For those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify go, welcome, you have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new,
Starting point is 00:00:49 the best, and the worst in horror. All right, welcome back one and all through the board returns. Lots of big changes coming. guys lots of big changes for the good everything totally for the good we will keep everybody up to date but there's been some things that have caused us to make changes and then we've got our own website now and then philip is turning us on to video so we're actually going to have some presences on in the video world on youtube pretty soon but you might not recognize this when you see it but i will just leave it at that i'm lance with me as always my co- host Brian and Philip. Nez is on the road, but we're here. Brian, what's it like in Alaska, man? It's getting warmer.
Starting point is 00:01:46 Everything's melting. So right now, it is a combination of beautiful sunshine and shitty roads because of everything melting. And like I said before, when winter starts, people don't know how to drive. And when winter ends, people do not know how to drive. Dirty slush. Gotta love it. Philip, are you staying busy, man?
Starting point is 00:02:13 Oh, yeah, dude. Working my ass off. Taking care of kids, sports. We've got baseball and soccer going on right now. Nice. Okay. Back to sports again. That's good, man.
Starting point is 00:02:23 The panic is over. The COVID panic is over, right? One way or the other. Oh, yeah. Fuck it. Got to live. Vaccines. There's so many people that have had it.
Starting point is 00:02:34 We'll deal with it. and Izzy scored a goal today. Oh, nice. Yeah. Sorry, I missed that, man, but we will see you guys next weekend, am I right? Oh, yeah, we'll be there. Good. Brian, we've got to find a way to get you down here, man.
Starting point is 00:02:55 Well, there's like planes and stuff like that. It's time to party, motherfucker. Don't let no planes get in the way. AJ and I will be getting on an airplane for the first time in two years next month. We're finally taking the plunge. So if I get, we got our masks,
Starting point is 00:03:13 we got our vaccination. I mean, you know, what's the worst that can happen, right? Well, yeah. If you already had it, you got a vaccination and a mask. Pretty sure you're covered. There's not too much more we can do,
Starting point is 00:03:29 is there? Yeah. Except maybe right on the plane, like that demon and twilight zone, right? Oh, you don't want to ride on that part of the plane. You have to have the new rectal medication. You guys ready to jump into Cool of the Week? Let's do it. Of course.
Starting point is 00:03:53 Who wants to go first? My Cool of the Week is checking out Phillips' avatar, which all our listeners will know about next week. Well, we may be able to throw this one up. see. All right. His eyes is a lot better than the other one,
Starting point is 00:04:13 I will say. Maybe. He's able to hold it together. I'm trying. I've had a lot of weed. I could go first. I did, again, the second week in a row,
Starting point is 00:04:27 I did not watch hardly anything. I checked out a new shutter movie called a violation. It's kind of like a, well, it's not kind of. of it's a rape revenge film I'm going to be horrified
Starting point is 00:04:42 if you don't end this cool the week with what I want you to I don't know it depends uh oh you see Dick erect everything well that's not where I was going with it I was going with it
Starting point is 00:04:57 I was really looking forward to watching this movie I heard a lot of people talking about it online and through like social media, which kind of slightly is also not cool of the week, because if you have shutter through Amazon Prime, they are really late sometimes. I'm putting new stuff up, and it got to the point where I had to cancel mine and just go through the actual app shutter to watch it. I think I'm going to get shutter again through Apple, so hopefully they won't have that
Starting point is 00:05:36 problem. Well, Lance, if you get AMC Plus it includes shutter. Oh, okay. I might end up having to do that then, man. I think it's AMC Plus shutter and IFC films and
Starting point is 00:05:54 something else all in one package. And I do love my indie indie movies, man. Yes. As far as the movie, it it's more it's kind of artsy fartsy kind of I don't know there was some there was some cool visuals
Starting point is 00:06:14 and then there were some other visuals I was just kind of like what the fuck are we doing now the right penis that was something I was not expecting it just it's it's there you have to deal with it if you can't deal with it but as far as like the rape revenge
Starting point is 00:06:36 scenario of the movie, I kind of felt like it was very tane. I mean, we've seen stuff like revenge, and I spit on your grave and stuff like that. Even I kind of felt like, from an actual story standpoint, I think Promising Young Woman was way better. Oh, dude, that was one of my favorite movies of the year so far, man. I'm counting it for this year, by the way. Yeah, so I would kind of not recommend. this movie. It's well made and well acted. I just
Starting point is 00:07:10 maybe just all the talk on social media kind of had me a little bit hype to see it. Right. And then go on through the process of okay, stop getting shuttered through Amazon and just go get shuttered direct and I was just a little disappointed
Starting point is 00:07:26 so. Gotcha. But on the upside, there's that bag of dicks that everybody keeps telling you about. Yes. On the website. if a bag of dicks was, if there was
Starting point is 00:07:40 dicks all over that island in Suicide Squad, John Cena would eat every one of them in the name of Liberty. They've been telling me to eat them for years. I've never seen them. Oh, boy. That movie is, okay, I'll say that's my cool of the week
Starting point is 00:07:56 is that Suicide Squad trailer. Trailer? Okay, cool. I will mark you down for Suicide Squad trailer. I trust James Gunn. fully after watching that trailer. And I see why John Cena's A peacemaker
Starting point is 00:08:12 character is getting his own HBO Mac series because besides him and King Shark, I think those are going to be the standout characters right there. And then James Gunn has said that Margot Robbie has kind of stepped up
Starting point is 00:08:28 the Harley Quinn character for this movie. Good. Wow. I am excited for this movie. Yeah. I'm She hadn't done a bad job at Harley Quinn yet. So if she's stepping it up from there, I'll take it. Black Widow did get moved to, since we're on the little comic book movie news, it did get moved to July, but it's also,
Starting point is 00:08:48 it's not only coming out in theaters. It's, uh, you can pay for it through Disney Plus. Okay. I got, I got something to say about that. So we'll, we'll get to that eventually. Well, I think for that one, well, we're going to make our official return to the theater next month. for the show, but for Black Widow, I think I might end up doing that renting out
Starting point is 00:09:12 a theater for the family. Well, you're talking my language, man. We'll get to it. We'll get to it. So, yeah, violation on shutter, not so cool of the week. And Suicide Squad trailer, cool of the week.
Starting point is 00:09:32 Big bouncing or egg, dicks. Not cool of the week. And I meant to get, because the first episode of season two of Creep Show just came out, I meant to get to that one. Yeah? But I didn't get to it yet. So next week I'll talk about it. Okay. Choking all those dicks down takes time.
Starting point is 00:09:55 All right. All right. I cannot believe you did not mention fucking Godzilla versus Cole. There we go. Somebody's on my side. We reviewed it, and let's just say, I ain't going to give away the scores, but me and Lance were on completely different views of this movie. And not in the way you would expect, Philip, and not in the way you would expect. I say it all the time. You say Ness, I say Lance. I just, I don't know where he's going sometimes.
Starting point is 00:10:29 Also true, I understand that. But I got to say, I kind of loved it. It was. It was stupid and cheesy, but God, it's a bunch of monsters fighting each other. What are you going to do? Had no problem. The fight scenes were great. You could actually see them. It wasn't just a fucking Godzilla foot or some bullshit. Yep.
Starting point is 00:10:52 Yep. And the only, the acting was kind of dumb, but it wasn't necessarily the acting. I think it was the writing. But that's not what it was there for. I wouldn't say kind of dumb. Yeah. I might leave that kind of out of it. It definitely could have been better.
Starting point is 00:11:12 Or my suggestion, if you're listening, after the Bag of Dix comment, leave the people out of it altogether. Just make a, it works with Castaway. Okay. Just make like a silent movie where you emote the expressions on like Kong, right? Yeah. Or if. anything, just keep the existing cast that survived and stop adding 27 new characters to it.
Starting point is 00:11:43 I liked a lot of the new characters, though, Brian? I did, but I felt like in the movie, they started talking about things like you already knew that they happened. You're like, oh, were they in another movie? Uh, yeah, maybe dumb. I must have missed that part. Yeah, a lot of the shit coming out of Professor Scarsgaard's mouth. I was just like, the fuck out of here. Tarzan.
Starting point is 00:12:07 I don't... I know. Parzane versus... Yeah, where's his brother? Let's get him in the movie. Right. He might be in the next one. Be careful what you wish for.
Starting point is 00:12:19 So his brother in this movie who had died and was apparently the person that you were expected to know for some reason that doesn't make any sense is a twin brother. They showed a picture of him
Starting point is 00:12:32 and he's got a twin... Spoiler alert, I guess. My bad. But he... And I'm like, oh, well, he must have played a part in another movie that I just don't remember. Oh, no, you didn't. Nope. See, now you're making me more angry about this movie.
Starting point is 00:12:49 So you're saying, because I think I remember the picture, but I think I had rolled my eyes and not really looked at it. So you're saying they made the picture look like there was two Scarsguards? Yes, it was like a twin brother. And it's like, why would you make? Oh, yeah. that. I gotcha. Fair enough.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Unless it was him playing another part in another movie, which he didn't do. Like, I feel like there was another movie written for this shit, and it just didn't get made. You said that. You said that last night. Yeah, there was, Phil, we talked about they gave last names to characters that are possibly related to other characters throughout the series. Yeah. But they just never tell you. Nothing to tie it together.
Starting point is 00:13:39 He had to look on IMDB and was like, is this character related to this one? Maybe, or they just coincidentally have the same last name. Okay, but Philip, how about that battle at sea, dude? How about that fucking sea battle halfway through the movie, man? Listen, everything that they did with Godzilla and Kong. I'm not a huge fan of the design of, uh, spoiler alert, Mecha Godzilla, but if you've already seen this trailer, you know he's coming.
Starting point is 00:14:05 I think everybody knows. Yeah. I'm not a huge fan of the design of him. But, you know, I didn't hate it. Aside from that, every monster fight that was in it, which is really what we're there for to begin with, was awesome.
Starting point is 00:14:29 Good to agree with you more, man. Yeah, I agree with you everything with the... I think I came off liking Kong even more after this movie. Oh, yeah. And that guy has some legit fighting moves. Yeah, dude. He has a badass right hook. Yeah, I also got to say shout out to Francis Nganoe, new UFC heavyweight champ.
Starting point is 00:14:54 Look out. Knocked out Steep A. Miochich. Oh, damn. I have to commend that guy because Francis, if anybody's seen that guy, that guy is a scary man. You do not want to get hit by him. but he got his ass kicked up first fight. He came back and fixed every mistake that he committed in that first fight and just came out looking real good,
Starting point is 00:15:21 and John Jones called him out for a heavyweight showdown, and apparently it's not happening because they're not showing John the money, and he is asking for his release. Oh, man. John Jones is maybe the greatest pound for pound fighter ever. Give the man some money and the pound of cocaine.
Starting point is 00:15:47 Yep, there you go. That'll do it. Don't ever try to make fun of him for using cocaine like Daniel Cormier. He was like, yeah, I was on cocaine, and I beat you on cocaine. John Jones on cocaine versus Nate Diaz stoned out of his mind.
Starting point is 00:16:06 Oh, man. And you know Nate would take that fight instantly. And I also remember. Also, get his ass kick, but. Yeah. Another not so cool the week, I just remember it. I wanted to say this. Prayers go out to DMX right now.
Starting point is 00:16:25 It's not looking good for him. What's that with DMX? He had an overdose, and they said he's basically in a vegetative state. Ouch. And he's probably not going to make it. Ouch. Drugs are bad, okay? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:16:46 He had a long battle. He was looking real good there. If anybody seen when they did his little versus battle with Snoop Dogg when they were going song for song, he looked really good, put on a lot of weight, and kind of relapsed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:04 Not looking. good for him right now. Addicted to the bag of dicks. The bag of dicks has come back again. I apologize. That was an inappropriate joke. But hey, what I do. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:20 Lance, we're about to own our own website and our own podcast, Philip. So we're finally going to get to where we can say what we want. But is that a spoiler alert? Oh man, cool of the week, guys. My cool of the week is getting back into the movie theater,
Starting point is 00:17:43 which I took the plunge this week, guys. I reactivated my AMC A-List membership. And started the week with a movie that a little bit less than I thought it was going to be. I was kind of hoping it would tie a little bit more into, the John Wick universe and have some at least some cameos and stuff like that but I gotta tell you man
Starting point is 00:18:09 Bob Odenkirk as a as an ass kicker telling jokes the whole time he's kicking ass is not a bad thing checked out yep checked out nobody enjoyed every minute of it great movie
Starting point is 00:18:25 the only thing I wish the director did say that that window is still open that it's a Well, you know what? I sat, again, sat around for a fucking after-credit scene that never really happened.
Starting point is 00:18:40 There was a very small after-credit scene, but it had nothing to do with the hotel or anything like that. Yeah, let's get that John Wick, Atomic Blind Nobody crossover movie. Oh, my God, dude. That would be amazing.
Starting point is 00:18:56 That would be amazing. But the thing I did love about this movie is that it did blend a lot of comedy. in there, which with Odin Kirk, I mean, you know, to be expected, I would think. But it's really cool the way that they built his character up where he kind of started out trying really, really hard not to go back to doing what he didn't want to have to do. But this one little thing triggered him, just like with John Wick, like the dog, right? The one little thing triggered John Wick. And it was even a smaller thing with this guy.
Starting point is 00:19:28 What little thing they killed this fucking dog, dude? You know what? This one was even, well, this one was, was, I don't want to say anything. It had something to do with something that disappointed his daughter. That's all I'm going to say. And anybody who's a father of a daughter knows that you do not disappoint your kids. You do whatever you have to do to make them happy and to, if I could get your ass back in there and handle a situation when you have to. So definitely big props to nobody. Glad I saw it on the big. screen. After that one, I checked out as we just talked about
Starting point is 00:20:04 Godzilla versus Kong, and went ahead and took the plunge and watched it in 3D. I know a lot of people hate 3D, but I'm a sucker for it. I'm a sucker for it. I thought it was done extremely well with this movie. You're in the movie theater, why not? You know what?
Starting point is 00:20:20 In my opinion, Brian, this was the best 3D for me since Avatar. Very, very immersive and very well done. But the best movie, the best movie. I don't remember avatar. I think it was hard.
Starting point is 00:20:36 Shit. Yeah. Well, there should be a two and a three coming out in like 2003 or something, finally. Yeah. They're almost there. Once the neural link is final. Get Bill Gates in there. But, best movie
Starting point is 00:20:52 of the three, guys, the one that I saw today, and I took two of the granddaughters and their friends, and here we are back to the Disney thing, full circle again, and whether you go to the theater or pay the 30 bucks to buy it
Starting point is 00:21:06 on Disney Plus, Brian. Any of you guys seen Raya and the Last Dragon? Yes. This was some of the best fucking animation I have seen in my life. Yeah, I agree with you, Lance. I don't, I'm kind of,
Starting point is 00:21:26 I follow right into this right here. I don't think of, enough people are talking about the movie, and I'm included because I loved it, and I don't think I ever even brought up that I watched it. I forgot about it. You know what, guys? I swear to God, a couple of times I kind of looked down, because I had all the kids with me, so I'd, you know, like me pass some popcorn across or whatever. I looked up, and I could have sworn that it was real people, not animation, and not in a creepy, that Christmas train movie. No, Polar Express.
Starting point is 00:21:59 Yeah, not in a creepy polar express way. In a real, in a real fucking total facial features, you completely buy into this. Polar Express. That's the only time you should be scared of Tom Hanks. That was nightmare fuel. Some of the things these animators did with water, guys.
Starting point is 00:22:24 Oh, my God. This was an amazing movie. Definitely far and away my cool of the week, man. So I get to go to three movies a week with my A-list. I went to three this week. I plan to go to three next week. And, uh, hey, man, it's cool. Definitely cool.
Starting point is 00:22:46 So we got some headlines, Brian. Do we? Yeah, maybe. We've got a few. I got to dig up something here. Let's start with Stephen Youn. Everybody knows him as Glenn from the, Walking Dead, RIP.
Starting point is 00:23:02 Hey. He is going to be starring in Jordan Peel's upcoming untitled horror film. Huh, okay. Along with, what is his name? Daniel Kalua, who was just in... Okay, get out? Get Out? Oh, more recently in Judas and the Black Messiah.
Starting point is 00:23:23 Thank you, yeah. Oh, so he's like, the main dude didn't get out, right? Yeah. Yeah. Man? that ought to be good. I already, yeah, don't have any information on what the movie's about,
Starting point is 00:23:36 but I'm already liking the cast. Yeah, definitely. Let's see. Although Menari was a snooze fest for me. I'm trying to watch all the best picture nominees. I think we have like one or two more to go, but not my favorite movie with Glenn in it. I much preferred the one that he was in with Samara leaving.
Starting point is 00:23:58 Yes. I think a lot of people do. We love you tomorrow. Let's see. Netflix has acquired Ryan Johnson's Knives Out for two sequels. I heard about this and I cannot
Starting point is 00:24:15 fucking wait. Ryan Johnson is returning to direct the two sequels and Daniel Craig is also returning to be in the two sequels. Philip, what do you think about that? I'll take it. He may not be able to hack it in Star Wars
Starting point is 00:24:31 but let him write a story on his own Ryan Johnson is a good writer. There you go. That was a great movie. I think it was all up on all of our top tens that year, right? Yeah. Yeah, I just fear that upcoming Netflix price raise because
Starting point is 00:24:46 I'm going to call it right now. We're going to get that email. The dollar raise is coming. They spent they spent over 450 million dollars to purchase this. They've got to start coming out with some better shit
Starting point is 00:25:05 because Netflix has got an awful lot of competition right now. HBO Max is fucking awesome. They can only raise the price so many times, right? Well, it's going to happen because once Columbia was it, not Columbia, Paramount, starts doing their movies, theater movies releasing after they're doing opposite of what HBO Max is doing after the first 30 days.
Starting point is 00:25:30 Phillips' favorite Paramount Plus, formerly known as CBS All Access. They tried to trick you, Phil. I know. You can't fool me, motherfucker. No, listen, the only reason
Starting point is 00:25:43 I really had a problem with CBS All Access is because they were the first you know, network broadcasting thing to start charging for shit that they didn't need to be charging for. Not necessarily. necessarily Star Trek, but you know,
Starting point is 00:25:59 just, no, I got you, man. CBS shows on demand, you shouldn't have to fucking buy. Yeah, because they're on TV. Their original content wasn't really up there. Right. And now that everybody's doing it,
Starting point is 00:26:15 they were just first to the show, so they got the blunt of my wrath. Yeah, well, Peacock struck a big move acquiring WWE exclusively. Okay, see I didn't know that. Yeah, the WWE network, I think April, I think now, actually, it might be done as far as the app.
Starting point is 00:26:37 I think you've got to go directly to Peacock, which if you were already paying for the WWE Network, you basically get Peacock for the same price, so you get two for one. Oh, okay. So Netflix, the fuck. Yeah. And all these apps are cheaper. Falling behind in all of these right now. Well.
Starting point is 00:27:01 But like Brian said, they'll probably keep raising the price, right? Yeah, and I heard Stranger Things 4 might, I heard a rumor might be delayed and might not come out this year. Because of COVID or what? No, because I don't know what the reason is. I think I read, they were talking to, someone was interviewing some of the actors in the show and they have no idea. Well, Millie Bobby Brown does look like a young lady now.
Starting point is 00:27:29 She doesn't look like a kid anymore. So this could be a problem. She's looking awfully grown up. Finn Wolvard is like seven feet tall now. Yeah, him too. With a full beard. The goofy kid with the teeth is going to be like fucking looking like a linebacker, you know? Right.
Starting point is 00:27:51 Okay, let's see here. This one I'm kind of excited about because I, just watched his, rewatched his shorts, Neil Blum camp. Ah, okay, cool. He said shorts. He filmed a
Starting point is 00:28:09 horror movie during the pandemic that nobody knew he was filming in IFC Midnight, who we've worked with before. I love them. Possibly send us a screener, possibly maybe. They have acquired his a new horror film called
Starting point is 00:28:26 Demonic. If we could interview Neil Blomkamp, that would be like beyond a touchdown. That would be amazing. I have watched everything he's put out. I think he has a great eye. He has a great eye. I can see some people,
Starting point is 00:28:44 as far as like story, kind of don't like some of his movies, but you can't disagree that visually he puts out really great stuff. Yeah. Is that it? Lance, you already know American Gods was canceled.
Starting point is 00:29:03 Unfortunately, I'm watching the... I'm three episodes into the third season now. But the good news is they are looking to go somewhere else to do neither a movie or a limited series to wrap it up. That's cool. Yeah, no problem with that. If there's an end to the story, I'll finish watching it. I've only seen the first season.
Starting point is 00:29:23 You know what? first season was so much better than the second and unfortunately like an idiot I heard a I waited so long to watch this third one I've heard a spoiler of a major death and I'm like
Starting point is 00:29:36 oh great wow what's the main guy's name oh you're talking about moon yeah what is moon shadow I think I'm right there with Phil I only seen the first episode but I've seen like pictures
Starting point is 00:29:51 the fuck is going on with his hair you know what it's what is it different in every episode or what i don't know it just looks weird i've heard him referred to as punchable so who knows yes he he kind of is i think he out of that first season i love the first season i think he was probably my least favorite character i couldn't agree more i think it's safe to say mr wednesday is everybody's favorite character right yeah i really liked his wife Especially that scene where she kicked that guy so hard in the balls, he just split apart. Yeah, but you know what?
Starting point is 00:30:32 Add one to the bag of the case. You got to understand, this poor dude, Moonshadow, was in prison, and she was off giving blow jobs to, like, their best friend that was a neighbor that came over and barbecued. So I don't have a whole lot of... Who knows what he was doing in prison. Jesus Christ. He could have been giving blow jobs. Last little bit of news.
Starting point is 00:30:59 I need to rewatch this because I never finished it, but the Russian creature features Sputnik. Yes, already. He's getting a remake. That movie only came out last year. Yes. It's getting an English language remake from producer Matt Reeves. Maybe I'll wait and watch the English one then.
Starting point is 00:31:20 I'm not a huge fan of Russia. I heard this is a, really great sci-fi creature feature. It's right up my alley. I should probably check it out. Yeah, and honestly, it's rare when they make an English language remake that's as good as the original. True. I'm glad that, because they were going to remake the raid, like a year after it came out.
Starting point is 00:31:45 Uh-huh. They, I've never heard anything from it again. The only good thing that came out of that news was Frank Grillo was going to be in the remake. Okay. and that was it. That was the only thing I was like, oh, okay. But everything else. They just made Judge Dredden instead, right?
Starting point is 00:32:02 We need a sequel to that one. We need that TV show because Carl Urban, Carl Urban said he'd come back for the TV series. Yeah? I'd watch that in a heartbeat. I'd watch anything with Carl Urban, man, especially when he's playing Bones McCoy and Star Trek. Oh, he was, yeah, he embodied.
Starting point is 00:32:21 What was the actor, the original? Oh, yeah. Fuck. God damn it. I should sure as hell know that, huh? Oh, somebody's pulling your Star Trek card. Yep. Somebody's pulling my Star Trek card. As we speak. Well, whatever his name is.
Starting point is 00:32:38 I felt like he embodied that character. DeForest Kelly. DeForest Kelly. I didn't even have to look it up. He sounded and had his mannerisms down. Big time. Yeah, but you know what? I thought as the movies went on,
Starting point is 00:32:53 Pine got a lot more Kirk-like, too. I mean, they all got more like their characters. I always like Chris Pine as Kirk. I think that works. Yeah, I think, uh, rest of peace, Anton Yeltsin, I think he did a spot on Chekhov. Oh, absolutely. Yep. And, uh, the fuck is his name from Heroes.
Starting point is 00:33:13 He did a, he did a pretty good spot. Oh, Zach Quinto. Yes. He's really good. I like him. haven't seen him in much lately yeah he kind of seems like he kind of picks and chooses when he wants to do stuff it's a pretty good actor
Starting point is 00:33:32 yeah definitely did he direct a little too that's probably why we haven't seen him maybe he got it could have something to do with him i think so like amelio oh god damn it we still have a We still got to do that Got to get with Darren
Starting point is 00:33:53 On that repo man commentary, Phillip Oh yeah That totally got derailed. What happened? Fuck, I don't know. Universal music happened. Oh, shh. Okay. Let's move on.
Starting point is 00:34:07 I'm trying not to say anything tonight, guys. Yeah. I'm fuming, so. But go Go, go, go download our old episodes right now because they're going to get this down. Please, guys, please, download our old episodes, and we have changes coming.
Starting point is 00:34:25 Yeah, before we get into the trailer park, let's just kind of get this out now. We've had some issues. If you're able to download the original versions of our episodes, do that now, because they are going to be pulled soon. They will be re-uploaded just without certain elements to it. Certain musical cues. We don't even know which songs are in question. All songs are in questions.
Starting point is 00:34:56 I'm going to blame CBS All Access for this. Okay, there you go. Just keep it simple. So essentially the man has come down on us, told us no, stop it. Yes, because obviously they need the money that we don't make, since our show goes up for free, more than we do. but if you can get them now, get them now, eventually you won't be able to, but later on down the line,
Starting point is 00:35:27 we have things working to where you can be able to go listen to them. Nice. Well said, right. We'll have a place for them. They'll be free and you can get to them, but for now they're about to come down, so they'll grab them while you can. Get them on a hat.
Starting point is 00:35:48 Yeah, and other exciting changes coming down the pipe, too, guys. And this YouTube that you kids are all into, you know, this YouTube, I think we're going to have to embrace the younger generation and join on. Yeah, we're going to have to be extra careful on YouTube, because I've heard from a lot of creators, a lot of YouTube creators that do the stuff that we do as far as like horror
Starting point is 00:36:21 sometimes they have to submit their videos two or three times before YouTube actually puts it up I'm going to say a lot of stupid shit you guys ready we're ready man we should be ready at least we now own now this we can officially
Starting point is 00:36:37 announce we officially own the website www. www.thehorror returns com. So moving forward guys, once Philip and I get together and build a website out and if Brian helps us from where he's at and we get something going,
Starting point is 00:36:54 you will have a centralized place for all things the horror returns. So for the time being, it looks like we are going to, you'll be able to find our show where you throughout the different podcast platforms.
Starting point is 00:37:10 We have a website coming and we have a lot more things coming. Changes are coming, essentially. Good, good changes. They thought they were going to fuck us out of existence, and they've only made us stronger. They just gave us a nice little kickingy ass. Mm-hmm. With the bag of dicks. And on that note, I think it's time to go to the trailer park. All right. Brian's going to bring us the big, the small, and maybe the very, very weird. What are we talking about, man? Big and the small bag of dicks.
Starting point is 00:37:44 Okay. There it is. I knew I'd get you on board. All right. The first trailer will be the nighthouse. A widow begins to uncover her recently deceased husband's disturbing secrets. I didn't really get that in the trailer. This stars Rebecca Hall, who we just seen in Godzilla versus Kong.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Yeah, but this looks like a better. performance. Yeah. Okay, just go listen to the review Godzilla's universe. I had some things to say about her characters. I guess I'm doing air quotes.
Starting point is 00:38:26 Job she was supposed to be doing. She was the Karen in the whole movie. Horrible parental figure too. Rebecca Hall, Stacy Martin, Sarah Gold, Evan
Starting point is 00:38:43 Sorry, my notes kind of disappeared Sarah Goldberg Evan God damn these names Jonniquette Bondi Curtis Hall which I didn't even see him
Starting point is 00:38:54 in the trailer Samantha Buck They might have Lance Reddict him Like Kong versus Godzilla did Oh god damn that movie Okay This is directed by David Bruckner
Starting point is 00:39:12 And I've heard of name. He's done a lot of shit, I think, right? Oh, shit. Yeah. The ritual on Netflix, Southbound, BHS, creep show. Yeah, he's all over the place. Ritual is really good, everybody. Go check that out.
Starting point is 00:39:30 Yep. What did you guys think of the Nighthouse? Looks creepy. I like, what's that little doll with the pins in it or whatever? I don't know It looked like more of a sculpture or something Could be
Starting point is 00:39:49 I mean the description and the trailer do not match up at all I saw nothing about any kind of recently deceased husband's disturbing secrets That's for sure Well, maybe I don't know I'm not sure exactly what it's about
Starting point is 00:40:04 But it looks like it's going to be an interesting concept I'm actually kind of excited for this one it's right at my I like this movie I did oh party file um
Starting point is 00:40:16 I'm kind of down on Rebecca Hall coming off okay coming off of Godzilla versus Kong and then watch the trailer
Starting point is 00:40:24 another party file damn it who's dead watch out of bag of dick still with us I'm having a lot of construction done at my house right now
Starting point is 00:40:37 and I just tripped over some moldy you doing the construction right now I just took up with the moment I left laying around. Okay. What was I saying?
Starting point is 00:40:46 Rebecca Hall. In this trailer, at times, she, I'm assuming you're supposed to be scared. Yes. She just kind of looks like, huh? Like there's bloody footprints coming to you
Starting point is 00:40:59 and you're just standing there with the blank expression on your face. That's your kind of her face, though, to be fair. Yeah, and then she's reading a note that going by the synopsis is apparently written from your deceased husband to you. Right.
Starting point is 00:41:16 And I'm just like, you're not kind of freaked out by it. If someone had just died. Well. And then all of a sudden I get a written letter from that dead person that just shows up out of nowhere. Mm-hmm. Or I see bloody footprints falling. Was it? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:33 It wasn't. Okay. I wasn't too clear. I was too busy. That's the impression they gave. Yeah. Not to say She has a messed up face or anything
Starting point is 00:41:42 She's a beautiful lady Just She seems kind of one note to me Yeah But she's got that face It's who She could have been Somebody's
Starting point is 00:41:58 Wife in Godzilla versus Kong Because they also had a Huh This is your new live Tyler Oh Oh no Philip. At least she has a father
Starting point is 00:42:12 that plays music that I somewhat enjoy, so what do you bring to the table with Rebecca Hall? King Kong, motherfucker. King Kong ain't got shit on me. All right. What's next?
Starting point is 00:42:35 Okay, so yeah. Thank Phil. I think you're the only one interested in the nighthouse, and that comes out. It looks cool, man. Yeah. Yeah. Weird reflection house that's built backwards. It looks like an interesting concept.
Starting point is 00:42:51 It reminds me of a very well-in trailer, I think. It reminds me of that movie that came out last year with Kevin Bacon. I know that I read the book. Yeah. The book was good, but the House of Leaves, but the movie was so bad. And I hope it's a better movie than that one was. Yeah, with that movie, you should have. you had a great concept with the house.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Yeah. Well, the book was great, man. Yeah, that whole scene in the movie where he's looking at the outside of the house and it's like the inside and the outside don't match up. And there was more to the house. And it's just shitty Blumhouse, throwaway movie. July 16th, the night house. Quit ruining Kevin Bacon.
Starting point is 00:43:35 You can't ruin Kevin Bacon. That's true. I guess. Nothing to worry about. All his bills are paid for generations to come, I'm sure. Yes. And on to the final trailer, which, spoiler, I am kind of out on this one. Uh-oh. Which is spiral from the Book of Saw.
Starting point is 00:43:58 Why would you be out? Come on, dude. It's a small movie. Let me get to that. A criminal mastermind unleashes a twisted, torn. a twisted form of justice and spiral. Kind of sounds like we're redoing the same thing. The terrifying chapter from the Book of Saul.
Starting point is 00:44:16 Let's see. This happened. We Chris Rock. Morgan, David Jones, Samuel O. Jackson, Ali Johnson, Chris Rock, who is fucking like fifth build in this one. Wow. Well, it's his movie.
Starting point is 00:44:34 So, you know. I was going to say he's directing, right? he is producing this is based off the idea that he brought to Lionsgate oh okay because he came at that that's the only thing that intrigues me because they said
Starting point is 00:44:46 he came with them with a fresh idea because I guess they were kind of fresh idea and yet it's the same exact tramp on somebody's face in one of the scenes well you know they're going to oh yeah yi
Starting point is 00:45:00 Lance you were just kind of telling me to be more up on this movie and now you're okay all right All right. Fair enough. This is directed by Darren Lynn Bowesman. I believe he did. What did he do?
Starting point is 00:45:13 Like the second, third, and fourth one? Yeah, and he's also done a musical, dude. Repo the Genetic Opera. And do not forget, there's a certain random guy named Lonnie Lingston or Longston or something that's requested three musicals. So I hope those are on the schedule soon. Let me address. No, you can't play music on the podcast.
Starting point is 00:45:35 No music. Let me address this asshole. It is on the schedule. It is coming in May. We are going to discuss his musical picks because I do actually enjoy two of them. The third one I've never seen. I probably never would have seen.
Starting point is 00:45:57 But you will now. Yeah. So it is coming. It's coming next month. We got two Patreon pick episodes coming next month. Let's just forget Tim. Yes, Tim.
Starting point is 00:46:10 Tim has picked an amazing trio of movies that have nothing to do with each other except that they are kind of awesome. I love it. Will you love the fanatic? Yes. We'll talk.
Starting point is 00:46:27 It's a terrible movie, but it's terribly awesome. Is it really terrible? Or did they know what they were doing? I guess we're going to find out on the next viewing because I feel like I kind of enjoy it more every time
Starting point is 00:46:42 I watch it. I've only seen it once, but my memories are fonder than it was when I watched the movie. I believe in Marcy and Bean on their like I could be underselling them. They could
Starting point is 00:46:57 be on their seventh or eighth watch. Oh my God. Wow. Okay, well, it's their own, I guess. Anyways, spiral from the Book of Saul. I will go first. I am intrigued on what they're going to do.
Starting point is 00:47:18 I like majority of the cast, but Chris Rock, we didn't really hear him speak in that teaser trailer, but we get a lot more from him in this one. I don't know if I'm going to be able to buy him as a lead detective. He's done some great things. outside of comedy. But for something, something's just not lining up for me in this one. It's because every time he tries to deliver some kind of serious line,
Starting point is 00:47:47 it sounds like the punchline of a joke. How much for one rib? Yeah. We got a dead guy over here, but he's only got one rib. And I kind of, I don't know. kind of feel like Sam Jackson's going to have something to do with the killer.
Starting point is 00:48:15 Yeah, you're already getting that feeling, huh? Yeah. Well, I... Samuel Jackson and Chris Rock, man. I mean, it's going to be hard for it to be bad. I hope it's good. I'm worried that it's going to be awful. Yeah, I
Starting point is 00:48:31 really... Well, the last couple of... Some movies have been pretty pretty awful. Yeah, and that's why... See, that's kind of my selling point here. They were kind of done because of that. Right. But whatever idea he had, they were like, okay, let's run with it.
Starting point is 00:48:51 So that's what I'm banking on. I mean, inject Samuel O'Jackson and Chris Rock into a saw movie. Who doesn't want to watch that? Well. And I heard he's pretty good in that Fargo. What is it, season four? Oh, he's awesome in that. That was one of the, that was actually one of the,
Starting point is 00:49:09 the best seasons of the show. Isn't he like a gangster in that one? Yeah, yeah, he is. And he's, but he's very human. It's like, um, very relatable gangster. If you, if you can imagine that, a super relatable cold-blooded killer.
Starting point is 00:49:26 But you'll know what I mean if you watch the series. It's like Brian was saying, he's a good actor. He can do this. But there were like at least two or three lines in this trailer. Right. That sounded exactly like a punchline from one of his jokes.
Starting point is 00:49:42 Like the same inflection. There was a scene where he's, I don't know if he's yelling at other cops or something, but I was just kind of like, are you about to say something funny? Yeah. I hope so. But I will be there.
Starting point is 00:50:00 It's on the schedule. I think this is our first official theater movie that I was talking about. And that release date is, escaping me right now. Fucking IMDB. It doesn't matter. They're going to push it. It comes out next month.
Starting point is 00:50:18 I hope it does. I'll be there. Now that I got my EMC thing going, I'll be at the theater. Black Widow comes out. May 14th. Oh, yeah. I ain't paying 30 bucks to see Black Widow, but I'll sure as fuck go and see it under my $20 a month plan. Oh, hell.
Starting point is 00:50:34 What? Are you taking the kids? No. No, they don't need to. AJ maybe. Because I'm going to tell them you're going without them. They're more
Starting point is 00:50:44 into the animated stuff, man. I'm calling AJ. You're making booby plans and future without them. They're not big Marvel fans. AJ I kind of lost her on Wanda Vision, so we'll see what happens.
Starting point is 00:50:58 Black Widow looks cool with shit, though. I mean, you know, from the one scene that I've seen. You got to see the new trailer? Remember, we still have Black Widow movie trailer coming out? No, not the whole thing. I think Taskmaster is going to be
Starting point is 00:51:13 fucking awesome in that. I like his ability how he just, he sees your fighting style and instantly can do it. That's cool. It's, they got me with the trailer. I was not excited about a Black Widow movie
Starting point is 00:51:31 at all. The same way I wasn't excited about Wanda Vision or Falcon in the winter soldier because... Oh gosh, that last episode was amazing. I haven't... Don't say nothing. Once again, I got behind. Please say
Starting point is 00:51:45 nothing, because this one I love so much more than Wanda Vision. Can I say a little something? Yeah. Sure. There's some cameos in there that, again, I was not expecting. Okay. And Lance,
Starting point is 00:52:00 I want you, because you grew up an X-Men fan. There are some nods to the X-Men universe in there. Oh, now we're finally getting there, huh? Yeah. Wolverine better show up somewhere. There's cameos, and then there's a couple of characters that I've been kind of waiting on,
Starting point is 00:52:21 because this season's only going to be six episodes, and I was kind of like, where are certain characters, and great episode, great episode. I think six episodes is perfect. Stopping at six, move on to something else. I guess Loki is next, right? Uh, Loki is in June, I believe. Okay, so we have something before that? Like, um, I can't remember what else was on the docket.
Starting point is 00:52:47 It was supposed to be Black Widow. Okay, but I mean, as far as like a series, mini series or whatever. No, next one's Loki. Okay, that's cool. There's not a new series about the cat that used to live in the Avengers house? No, it's coming next to it. All right. Just because they keep bringing up
Starting point is 00:53:12 Tertiary characters. But they're doing a badass job, man. I'm telling you, I'm excited about the Black Widow thing. It looks cool shit. All right. Phil Zinn. I'm in. Lance.
Starting point is 00:53:27 I will see it at the theater. Guaranteed. It is. I will let everybody know now. I don't really release the action return schedule. but it is on the docket. As well it should be, right? Yep.
Starting point is 00:53:43 And as far as trailers, that is it. Let's just hope Chris Rock doesn't come off about to tell the joke and then we don't get the punchline. So that's it for the trailers. Have you seen who's killing these people? I can't do a Chris Rock. I'm sorry. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:08 you're going to get something from Sam like tired of these motherfucking traps in this motherfucking house. Oh no. Oh God. That's got to happen, right? Something. This motherfucking clown! He already said
Starting point is 00:54:24 his catchphrase in the teaser, so we know we're getting that. Yeah. As well as about 100 motherfuckers, hopefully. All right. Feedback. Feedback. Tonight we shine the spotlight on eternal darkness of a not-so-spotless minds.
Starting point is 00:54:47 Not a not-so-spotletletlet. You get it. Join Matt and Kate on their first podcasting venture together. In this episode, we want you to get to know us a little bit and introduce you to the show. So be prepared for bantz horror and horror-adjacent chat and anecdotes as we take you down the eternal darkness of not-so-spotless minds. Uh, please also check out our social media and contact pages, Instagram, uh, at, uh, with E, O N-S-S-M underscore podcast, eternal darkness of not so spotless minds. Yeah, I get it. Uh, email is E.D. Spotless Minds at gmail.com. And, uh, Matt, got to bring, got to bring you co-host with you next time. I've listened to the first episode. I love their banter back and forth. You already feel like they're...
Starting point is 00:55:47 I'm sure they were friends before this. I don't know their relationship, but you get that when you listen to it. And, man, I wish I was just able to just freely say cunt whenever. I know, right? It is really cool when they do it. And that's coming from Kate. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:07 she was there were just a couple of cunts I was just like oh man I think I tried to say it my wife was just like what the fuck did you say I was saying it in the British English way we're shutting that shit down right now
Starting point is 00:56:24 because she was asking me she was like so what does it mean over there because over here it's different it's just like throwing around the F word you know Yeah, because shout out to Marcy When she came on The first thing she said was
Starting point is 00:56:43 Cunty McCuntface Yes, which We don't have that freedom to I love that name All right And a little higher class In our bag of dicks jokes Yes, definitely check their podcasts out
Starting point is 00:57:00 Glad they finally got it out Regarding Malvolia's movie Matinees Saturday night at 6 p.m. Malvolia, the Queen of Screams. Thank you for sharing. Anytime. Yeah. Regarding the Nighthouse.
Starting point is 00:57:19 There you go. Kate Pollack says, so intrigued by this. See, I told me the trailer looks cool, man. Somebody else had to be intrigued. I like it. I think a lot of people are looking forward to this one, actually. I guess. And if I'm surprised by it,
Starting point is 00:57:35 I'll admit that I was wrong, but just right now like right now Rebecca Hall's face is just popping up in my head and she looks super confused right now in my mind just give it time
Starting point is 00:57:46 talk the fuck out is what she looks like right she doesn't know what's going on right now she's got hitting the face by a bag of dicks all right I'll stop
Starting point is 00:57:58 oh regarding that's the face right oh my god did that just happen What? She called it for Scars Guard. There's monsters
Starting point is 00:58:15 fighting. What? Oh. Whoa! Yeah. There was a lot of dumb scenes. Regarding Werewolf Toys
Starting point is 00:58:29 pictures posted by Brian, Venice Spring. What movie was that from, Brian? They are, NECA is releasing figures for an American werewolf in London. You get the werewolf and then Mike kind of hit us to, okay, you remember the nightmare scene with the zombie Nazi shooting up everybody? Oh, yeah. They release pictures alluding that you got all four,
Starting point is 00:58:59 but you're only getting one with interchangeable heads. Oh, okay. Those interchangeable heads, man Yeah, so if you want all four in your collection You have to buy like four figures And just Put whatever head up Yeah, which I think kind of sucks
Starting point is 00:59:17 I think they should just sell it as a four pack Because I'd buy it I will buy it But I'm not buying four of them Uh, well Venice Spring says my favorite was always the one on the left Do you remember which one that was? Oh yeah
Starting point is 00:59:32 That one Oh, that's that. I like that one as opposed to the one on the right. I didn't like that one. Okay. The VD Clinic says it's March, so you know what that means. The VD Clinic. Yeah, take your bag of dicks to the VD Clinic.
Starting point is 00:59:57 If you've already eaten your bag of dicks, go get the vaccine. March After John Cena's character And suicide squad They'll eat every one of them In the name of the Christian That man is a patriot Uh
Starting point is 01:00:20 Jesus Christ March Madness With our annual guest Bo Ransdale Check that out Awesome Nice the road to Jonestown, Jim Jones
Starting point is 01:00:33 and the people's... Oh God. Okay. Bring this show up a little, huh? By Jeff Gwynn. Paired with the Ty West film, The Sacrament from 2013. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:00:47 I really, I saw it last year for the first time. I could not believe that it took me that long to get to that movie. That movie... What was that? What did they call the character, father, I think? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:01:00 It creeped me the fuck out because it's a... It looked realistic. And stuff like that really does happen. And it fucking creeped me out. I think that, honestly, that might be my favorite Ty West movie. I haven't seen it. I'll have to watch it. I think it's on Prime. Awesome.
Starting point is 01:01:24 Regarding Godzilla versus Kong, Tim Davis says, Can't Wait to Hear Your Thoughts. Matt Wood says fingers crossed. It's awesome. It's awesome. Yeah, I can say that. Don't worry about the fucking people, man. There's monsters fighting, and it's awesome.
Starting point is 01:01:43 You don't have to worry about them. They're just there. Confused of what's going on. Well, and there's a whole group of people that basically just, the movie would have been no different at all without the minute. They're just kind of comic relief. and there for you to follow along so you can see stuff.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Oh, I love the new characters, man. I love the little deaf girl. I love the podcast, dude. Because anytime they put a podcaster in a movie, it's like they're making fun of all of us, right? I like they got an actual hearing-impaired girl to play the part. Yeah, that adds to it, man.
Starting point is 01:02:24 Although she about looked the same in every scene that she was into. She did have that one tear going on that one side every time. Right. On every scene that she was in. And that is it for listener. Is that it for listener feedback? I thought we had another.
Starting point is 01:02:46 Fuck, I don't know, dude. I could have sworn we had more feedback this week. Who knows, man? One more comment. Here we go. I found it. from nobody in particular
Starting point is 01:03:05 but they said new listener love the show and then you know a couple of emojis so that's awesome I guess that's a new review I appreciate it guys whoever you are thank you
Starting point is 01:03:19 yes we would have said your name but we didn't get it or we can't find it and I'm an idiot so there's Did you, uh, yeah, what, hold on, did you cover, uh, Jeff, Jeff, uh, Jeff, uh, Jeff, uh, Learimore's feedback and, uh, Matt Wood's new feedback and Cameron Sullivan. No, where's all that shit?
Starting point is 01:03:44 I just forwarded you the email because there were some stuff that came in under the wire. Oh, everybody's getting a look behind the curtain here. Oh, no. It's the stuff that happens. Yeah, check it out, man. Because the last thing you talked about was Godzilla versus Kong, right? Unfortunately. All right.
Starting point is 01:04:06 So we got, let's see, Jeff Laramore. I am loving listening to episode number one. Very, very cool. Thanks so much, which we were required to do to take the music out to keep from getting sued. Download while you can, guys. Suit for what? It'll be available later, but just not to wait. you can get it now.
Starting point is 01:04:30 I think we have something about Lars and Sean Henry after that. Philip, did you get the email I just sent you? No, hang on. This is great. The horror returns.
Starting point is 01:04:47 There it is. So apparently, I will continue having to edit each show and take stuff out. No, leave this in. You know, I'll take shit out. Fuck them. We're going, shout out
Starting point is 01:04:59 to binge media. We're going binge cast. Leave it all in. Oh, God. Three, four, five hour shows? Is that what you're saying? Oh, that's the full binge. You gotta pay for that. No, whatever's popping up. You go ahead and finish reading it, man. That's whatever's pop up there is not coming up on my hand.
Starting point is 01:05:21 Okay, I'll, I'll do the rest of the feedback and then hand the mic back to you. Is that cool? All right. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do that. As promised, all $5 and up. patrons get a commentary of their choice. Next up after Lars, because I think we're doing that next week, if we can all find the fucking movie, which I can't so far. So this could be interesting.
Starting point is 01:05:42 Cemetery man is on YouTube. I will say everybody a link. Then we should be good. Okay. Next up after Lars is Sean Henry. And Sean says, if it's all right, I would like to do a, and this is where Sean has my heart. I would like to do a commentary on Texas chainsaw,
Starting point is 01:06:00 Massacre 2, and that's my personal favorite of the series, guys. Underrated, very underrated. I am free on Saturdays, Sundays, and Mondays, what date and time would work for you guys? Also, out of curiosity, what prompted the possible change from Pod Bean? We discussed it already, so. No more discussing now. All right. Once we have our own website, we can say whatever the fuck we want about.
Starting point is 01:06:33 Somebody versal. Yeah, until we get canceled. Look, it was bound to happen eventually. You know, you guys, we can't use... But we don't charge the show, Phil. I know, I know. But we can't just copyrighted music. We've been doing that forever, so...
Starting point is 01:06:50 It's the man. Yeah. He put his foot on our neck and just was like, pay us, or take it down. They're coming down. on us, go get them while you can, because we're pulling them down. Honestly, I'm done talking about that company because we're just a...
Starting point is 01:07:08 I 100% appreciate everybody for supporting us. We're just a small show. Just doing this for fun, and we got taken down for a bunch of bullshit, so I don't want to give them anymore of our time.
Starting point is 01:07:25 All right. Yeah, eat a bag of dicks. Yeah. you didn't know the theme of the show bag of dicks they can eat whatever John Cena left over Alright
Starting point is 01:07:38 So this is Not John Sina Sorry wait hold on sorry Not John Sina his character I don't know Back to Dix Well you never know You never know
Starting point is 01:07:48 You definitely can't see him So there's hard It's kind of hard to tell waste That's how he's getting away with that Who knows why mad men do what they do So going back to what you guys talked about earlier with eternal darkness of the not so spotless minds. Matt Wood says, if you've listened to our first episode, then you enjoy listening to my ramblings and then have a crack at this where I join my fabulous buddies across the pond as we talk about the original and the new version of Wrong Turn. That's a show we did a couple of weeks ago, guys.
Starting point is 01:08:25 shout out to my brother's Lance, Brian, Philip, and Nez. Not sure why they won't pop up in my feed right now. That was it. I'm talking about this. It's fixed. It's fixed, everybody. It's fixed. For now.
Starting point is 01:08:43 It's late in the UK. I'm drunk as per usual, but it's all good fun. All right. Cameron Sullivan, and Brian, he's invited us to be on his show. show. I'm going to join. If you guys have time, come with me. Philip, are you in for guesting on another podcast as well? Yeah, man, if I've got time around working
Starting point is 01:09:09 kids and stuff. All right, well, Cameron Sullivan does A... Children of Hell. He does a podcast called The Jacked Up Review Show. Wednesday, April 14th, Erica, and I take on the original indie film trilogy that is Hell. House LLC. We see those. Yeah, we love them. We've interviewed the director. Convincingly using a documentary look
Starting point is 01:09:35 instead of the sometimes infamous found footage subgenre look, it also created its own plot twist and is not restricted by its budget. Was there a single week entry or was it altogether rather solid? Is there bad acting or is it without any glaringly awful
Starting point is 01:09:51 factors? Could it have been two movies instead of three? Should you rent them on Amazon or bother getting a shutter account? All this and tons more awesomeness. And then our buddy Bo Randstale pitches in, your old pal Bo here ended up on Jay versus Horror talking about animal attack movies. God, I hope they covered the Pet Cemetery Remake. All right.
Starting point is 01:10:15 That animal didn't attack anybody. That's true. But it's such a great movie. It deserves to be talked about anyway. Not like. Avalanche sharks All right, check out Jay versus horror on YouTube
Starting point is 01:10:30 And can I say real quick, is it just me Or Does it seem like Samantha Bean Should be on every podcast That talks about Hellhouse LLC? Oh, absolutely. She turned up to talk to horror period.
Starting point is 01:10:48 One final comment here, Philip, before I turn it back to you, regarding the void, which I've got to recede, because I love Psycho Gorman so much. Kate Pollock says, well, this was fucking awesome. So there you go. I love your tasting movies.
Starting point is 01:11:04 The Void? Yes. Yeah, I'm going to go rewatch it. I think I just got freaked out by that one weird hospital scene where the cult showed up and surrounded the hospital. And I don't know why.
Starting point is 01:11:17 It just turned me off, but I'm going to rewatch it. I promise. Yeah, I say giving a, another watch. Yeah, there's influences from Hellraiser, the thing, and other movies, but what's wrong with that? Nothing. And then after that, go watch Cycle Gorman, which I will announce now. Right now, I totally forgot. My mind's kind of everywhere. I am switching up the giveaway. You will have a chance if your name is picked for a iTunes review,
Starting point is 01:11:50 preferably five stars. Which we haven't had any lately. I will post it this weekend. You'll see the posting before you hear this show. You will have a choice of the shining steel book, Blu-ray, Monster Hunter. Holy shit.
Starting point is 01:12:10 Or Psycho Gorman. I know what I would pick. Hunky boys. That's what I'm going to pick. Phil, have you seen Psychogorberman? No, I'm like... You're missing out, dude. Trying to think up a five-star review to put out there and pretend to have a fake name. I think you can watch it with the kids, huh?
Starting point is 01:12:33 Lance? Ah, he. It's like kind of borderline. Yeah. It's borderline. It starts out like a teenage, not teenage meat, Ninja Turtles. It starts out like a... God damn it.
Starting point is 01:12:49 What was that show with the Red Ranger and the Green Reader? Oh, Power Rangers. Yes, yes. Imagine the Power Rangers but like fucked up. Like Onassis. Well, it's awesome.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Trust me. I love it. Gorman is not sure about honky boys. I hate hunky boys. You'll love it. Or do I?
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Starting point is 01:15:53 That'll be like a grand prize winner. Yeah, if you donate $5,000. Yes. We'll fly you out to Texas Frightmare. But now we'll ignore that last comment. And roll on to featured attractions. Yes. This week we talk about psychological horror.
Starting point is 01:16:15 AKA crazy-ass white women. Yeah, there you go. We're going to start out with the hand that rocks the cradle. Rebecca DeMorne. Yes, yes. Yes. After her humility... Must prefer her subway scene in the movie at Top Cruise.
Starting point is 01:16:41 Oh, risky business. There it is. young. If I had a subway scene with Rebecca in the morning, I might dance around the house of my socks and underwear. Sometimes, Brian, sometimes you just got to say, what the fuck? Absolutely. I mean, I haven't seen her in the past few years, but she still looks good from the last... Okay, before we, you read the rest of the trivia,
Starting point is 01:17:04 I kind of had a thing for her when I was younger. Oh, yeah. And that scene in American, what is it, American Pie Reunion or American Reunion? Okay. You know how Stifler was always Oh yeah Fitch was always fucking Stiffler's mom She shows up as
Starting point is 01:17:20 Finch's mom And Stifler bangs her And I was so fucking jealous There's also Side note I mean, listen We've already gone down the bag of dicks hole So
Starting point is 01:17:36 That came out wrong Dixon Dix and Hove came out of your mouth there's a there's a porn star from the late 80s early 90s
Starting point is 01:17:52 I don't know who she is I care that looks like her and it looks just like her yeah don't don't ask how I know
Starting point is 01:17:59 but yeah wow dude fantastic anyway all right the hand that rocks the cradle after
Starting point is 01:18:08 no pun intended after her husband kills himself Listen, I was a young man. What do you want? Ouch. An embittering pregnant widow loses her child and embarks on a mission of vengeance against a woman and her family.
Starting point is 01:18:25 Director is Curtis Hanson, also known for the River Wild and 8 Mile. Eight Mile with Eminem? Yeah. Completely different for that movie. Wow. Okay. Ryder is Amanda Silver, also known for Rise of the Planet of the Apes.
Starting point is 01:18:43 and Jurassic World. Damn. Yes, you got a resume. Heavy hitters. Kevin Spacey was considered for the role of Michael Bartel. And I imagine they're glad they didn't do that.
Starting point is 01:18:57 Ay, aye, aye. The film is parodied in the Wayans Brother comedy series in Living Color during the skit, the fist that rocks the cradle. I do not remember that one. Oh, yeah,
Starting point is 01:19:12 yeah. Man. We're going to Memory Lane tonight. Oh, man. I kind of have to go watch that now. Oh, dude. That was my fucking, I think it was Sunday night, right?
Starting point is 01:19:24 That, the Simpsons. Yeah. Well, even before the Simpsons, the Tracy Olman show. Yeah. The Simpsons started. Oh, man. I love it. And then you got Married with Children.
Starting point is 01:19:35 Oh, married with children. How could I forget that? Wow. And Living Color is the best out of all those. Man, that thing was iconic. Mm-hmm. all right well uh brian will start with you what did you think about the hand that rocks the cradle i love this movie i think it's a great psychological thriller um i like everybody in it i think
Starting point is 01:19:58 everybody fits their role rebecca de morne she's fucking hot as shit in this movie i don't fucking and crazy i don't care i'm kind of root for her even though her husband was a big piece of shit. Right. And I did not feel bad when he killed himself. Oh, well, yeah. Q from St. Trek. Yeah, I, but I kind of wanted a little more backstory on her because she just, just how devious and.
Starting point is 01:20:32 Yeah. Wait, she was. I'm like, did you, did this drive you to that? Or were you always a little bit like this, you know? I got to think she's always been a little bit like that. Yeah. Because you get that scene where she's talking to the lawyers and they're talking about, oh, they're seizing your assets and blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Starting point is 01:20:50 Then she gets up and then he's like, oh, can I help you? And then she just glars at him. I was like, yeah, there's been something there. You and your husband has an interesting relationship going on because you guys were both kind of fucked up. Yeah. What is the other actress? I can't think of her name. And the Bellis Scuioora?
Starting point is 01:21:12 Yes. Yeah. It's very hard for me to see her in that kind of role because the main thing I know her from is when she was on the Sopranos. Oh, okay. Super fucking hot that one and crazy. She was basically Rebecca DeMorne in that.
Starting point is 01:21:34 Yeah. And she's the complete opposite in here. But I like the whole dynamic of how she's just this very nice kind of a, be able to just get things over on her because she's just so nice stay at home mom that just live in life
Starting point is 01:21:53 and then you just enter Rebecca de Bourne's character Peyton and she's just out to destroy your life and I like how they alluded up to the point where you thought she wanted to kill the family but really what she wanted to do was
Starting point is 01:22:08 take her family because that's what she felt like she did to her was take her family. I love Ernie Hudson's character Solomon. That's a good guy and he's very handy around the house. The only
Starting point is 01:22:24 other character I didn't really care for was the husband because he's kind of I don't know. Blame. Kind of douche. Yeah. Yeah. He was just so plain. Yeah, and then he had that Rebecca Hall moment when
Starting point is 01:22:39 he got Peyton, standing there in her wet nightgown telling you, you only need one woman, and he's just like, huh? But overall, I thought it was a great psychological thriller.
Starting point is 01:22:56 I liked her just basically planning all this stuff, you know, getting Solomon kicked out the house, because that was fucked up. The whole daughter's underwear in his whatever trailer thing that he had was bike.
Starting point is 01:23:12 Yeah, that was some dirty moves right there, man. I do question, what is it, Julianne Moore? I question her death scene because I didn't feel like that should have killed her, especially the way it looked like it happened. A little bit of glass falling on her or whatever. Yeah, but the way they showed it, it looked like she was fine. And then they never shut her body, so I don't know. I thought that was kind of weak.
Starting point is 01:23:39 They did for a second, but it wasn't, it was, you know, she just had some blood on her and that was it. And I thought the, I will say, I thought the conclusion was kind of anticlimactic, just kind of ended. Yeah, that's true. Would it like a little bit more. But overall, this is like one of my favorite psychological thrillers and Rebecca DeMorne, I wish you would do more because I think you're still hot now. Dude, she was like the mom in some surfer show on HBO that only aired for a season. I can't remember the name of it. She was the mom in that movie, that skateboard movie.
Starting point is 01:24:22 What was it? Ness is yelling at me right now. Yeah. Phil, are you talking about that John from California or whatever that? Yes. HBO show was called. Okay. I didn't know she was in there.
Starting point is 01:24:36 Such a good show. Yeah? Yeah, I can't believe they canceled it. Anyway. And then also a skateboarding movie, huh, Brian? Yeah, I'm trying to think of it. The one with the skaters that started it in California? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Yeah, and I can't remember the name of it either, and I'm kicking myself for that. Nes, I feel you. Uh-uh. Yeah, Nes is yelling at you. All right. Yeah, I think it's great. this is one of my favorites Lance what did you think
Starting point is 01:25:10 you think you know Lords of Dogtown sorry Lords of Dogtown there it is you know what I'd rather watch
Starting point is 01:25:21 Lords of Dogtown a hundred times than watch this piece of shit one more time well I would too but that doesn't necessarily I mean this movie's bad this movie is fucking horrible Brian
Starting point is 01:25:31 what did you do to us here man this was Oh my God, dude. This was like, I guess I better settle down because Brian really loved it. So I don't want to get too far out. Come on, bring it because I feel like you're in a minority.
Starting point is 01:25:50 I hope I'm in a minority. You ask anybody. No, this was a huge movie when it came out. It made great money at the box office. I remember it was a really big movie when it came out on HBO and everything like that. but uh Jesus Christ
Starting point is 01:26:07 man other than showing Q from Star Trek being a complete horn dog at the beginning and like putting his finger to pussy and stuff like
Starting point is 01:26:17 like I don't know man it just didn't grab me dude it just to me it felt it felt like a giant piece of shit not a Hallmark channel movie lifetime
Starting point is 01:26:30 yeah it just it just felt like a lifetime movie to me and god damn it dude Annabella Scour or not Annabelle Scorer but the fucking Julianne Ward's character
Starting point is 01:26:41 if she could die from a little bit of glass falling on her from a goddamn greenhouse and that fucking ribgobor contraption that Rebecca Demore I set up to bed I wouldn't go that far come on man
Starting point is 01:26:55 she just wedged a shovel into the lever that was it ay aye aye aye oe vee I hated this movie sorry didn't care for it. Do you see Phil? Do you see what I'm talking about?
Starting point is 01:27:07 I don't know where he's going sometimes. That's true. I will say Ernie Hudson was good, playing the character that he played. Kind of like radio. Who wasn't that played radio? Remember that? He wrote his bicycle.
Starting point is 01:27:21 Oh, yeah. I mean, of course you're going to love a character like that, right? Because he's totally innocent. He's like the ultimate innocent character, and they set him up. I just thought everything was, like way over the top here. Like she was way too evil.
Starting point is 01:27:37 He was way too innocent. The husband was way too milk toast. The wife was way too stupid. I don't know, man. It just didn't grab me. The daughter was way too young. Baby was way too. What are you talking about?
Starting point is 01:27:52 Well, no, I get it. It's a very soap opera-e type of story. You know what I mean? Like, I was waiting for the evil twin to show up. but we'll get to that movie yeah it comes next and it's it's it's a genre of like thriller movies you know that that are also very soap opera e and very lifetime movie e and uh i i i kind of don't hate it for that man i think it was a fun story um i rebecca de morne was perfect for that role like super in control and vicious and still hot
Starting point is 01:28:34 but like a total bitch at the same time yeah because she she did things that she did what her character needed to do right put the hotness to the side for a second she did what she needed to do for that character to not like her and say somebody like Ernie Hudson-Solomac character you were rooting for him
Starting point is 01:28:57 Yeah. Especially when she did what she did to him, you know, she, I'm not going to be politically correct. You know, she called him the R word and slapped him in the face and told him, don't fuck with me. Yeah. Because they'll never believe any story. My story will be way better than anything you'll come up with. And then she came up with a story and it was fucked up. I don't know how many people they could have put in that role that would have worked
Starting point is 01:29:27 as well. Cuba. Radio. No, I mean, Rebecca DeMorne. Oh, no. Yeah. Don't put him in that role. Because she was, yeah, no.
Starting point is 01:29:39 Because, I mean, she was otherwise they would have just come across as totally hateable because, I mean, the poor girl in this movie was just trying to live her life and do the right thing and be nice. Right. Right.
Starting point is 01:29:54 And the only thing that she did was call somebody out on their shit and then her life got totally turned upside down and ruined because of it. Yeah. The Me Too movement, right? Yeah. And it was much needed
Starting point is 01:30:11 because then you hear, right before he kills himself, you hear on the news that he's done this to multiple multiple, man. Okay. Sometimes when one comes forward, so the rest of them. Here's a point I have, guys. What's his? Cosby.
Starting point is 01:30:26 here's a point I have, Brian. Did he kill himself? Because I could have sworn it was a female hand that I saw reached across for that knife or whatever. So she would put all that undue stress on herself? I don't know, man. I just had a weird feeling.
Starting point is 01:30:43 Now you're making it into a lifetime film. Maybe I am too. I just had a weird feeling. No, I felt like he was such a fucking shitty-ass person. that he finally got caught and he didn't want to deal with it anymore. Yeah, there you go. Yeah. Thank you. And took
Starting point is 01:31:06 himself out and all the stress of her husband killing himself. Because who knows, maybe she was denying that he ever did anything. Since he killed himself. It was never proven. Right. And then, you know, they seize all the assets
Starting point is 01:31:24 and tell her, oh, you know, you can stay in your house until you have the baby. And then after that, you know, you have to get the fuck off. Oh, yeah, that's true. Which I'm assuming since she had a miscarriage, they told her to get the fuck out. And, you know, it sucks for her too, because her husband's a piece of shit and... Yeah. She's kind of a...
Starting point is 01:31:44 She's kind of the hero. Every aspect of her life, you know? She's kind of the hero of the movie, Brian, if you think about it. Oh, I do think about it when she's in that wet nightgown. Uh-huh. I will say this. She's still a very despicable character, though. Yeah, but Annabella Skewer's husband was a fucking idiot,
Starting point is 01:32:06 not to at least grab onto that shit when he had the chair. I'm sorry, I'm a happily married man, but God damn it, if I had that sitting in front of me, I can't say what I would do. Don't put yourself in the situation, guys. I will say he was very, like you said, Phil, cardboard. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:32:26 But they were the, I think they did play that role perfectly. They were the, I guess, the picture perfect couple. Right. And that's, that's kind of what he was supposed to be. You know, he's the good guy who, even though maybe he did some things that the wife was, uh, what's the word I'm looking for? What are you trying to say, Bill? Well, there was some questionable things.
Starting point is 01:32:55 Like, there's no way that I'm going to. be best friends with my ex and constantly hang out with her all the time and my wife's just going to be like thumbs up. Go ahead. Where are you at? Oh, I'm with such and such. We're meeting up having some drinks.
Starting point is 01:33:12 I'll see you later. Now, I mean, to be fair, he was setting up a surprise party and that's I guess where they were planning it or whatever. So, I mean, in the end, he was the good guy. But again, don't put yourself in that fucking situation. It's not going to end right.
Starting point is 01:33:26 I mean I'll give him that He seemed pretty strong Because he resisted her Yeah But that views like Oh Which is God
Starting point is 01:33:39 Well that's why he had the dumb look on his face He's like God damn it no So you're trying to say that he His dick should have gone into that bag I think he I don't think he was already in that bag already in there.
Starting point is 01:33:58 Okay. But, no, I, I, I, I, I did enjoy watching it. It was, it was a pretty good movie, man. I, I always enjoy the thrillers. It's, it's not exactly my genre, but I, they're always fun when I watch them. So, I'll take it.
Starting point is 01:34:17 I was happy. Nice. I'm glad you guys got something out of this one. Scores. That's not to be interesting. Brian? This is it. No, no, no, no. I address my problems.
Starting point is 01:34:32 I do have some problems with the story and that certain blandness of certain people. I don't know why I keep wanting to say Rebecca Hall, but it's not. It's not Rebecca Hall right now. That's why. She would have totally been wrong for this movie. It would have just been a bunch of people standing around like, what? What's happening? Yeah, with their mouths open, right?
Starting point is 01:34:59 I did enjoy the story. I'm a big fan and still a big fan of Rebecca DeBorne. And I think everybody did what they were supposed to do in this movie and give it a seven and a half. Damn. Okay. Lance, what do you think? Here we go. You know what?
Starting point is 01:35:20 I actually kind of, I'll give it a three. It's not, it's not like garbage. It's not like pure trash. It's pretty damn close to it. No, but you know what? No, for me, for me, garbage is a one or one and a half. But this was okay, man. It was, it was, it was one third good.
Starting point is 01:35:40 How about that? Rebecca de Morne was, was definitely good in the role. The husband was horrible. Worst acting ever. Okay, let's, let's really talk about it. Was he horrible at acting? Or was it just that his, character was just vanilla.
Starting point is 01:35:57 I liked Ernie Hudson. I will say this. This is one thing I can say, and you'll never hear this for my lips again. I actually thought Julianne was... I thought Julianne was pretty sexy in this movie, because I do not like pale women. I'm not a fan of pale white, super white, pale women.
Starting point is 01:36:18 That's not my cup of tea. We didn't really talk about her role. I think she did her job. She looked kind of hot in this one, actually. she played her character because her character was the like we said the husband's ex who is somehow friends with everybody and that added and that added to the story I mean that
Starting point is 01:36:39 I get that I understand why the wife was jealous and my I will say the whole the whole seeing the wind chime thing in the that was silly in the picture that was fucking stupid like yeah that was a stretch like there's only one wind chime Well, I would give this a two.
Starting point is 01:36:57 She likes wind chimes two. Hmm. I would give this movie. I would give this movie a two, but since Q was in it, it goes up to three, period. I'm such a trick. Yeah, give it an extra point for the molesty guy. Yeah, sticking his finger off her pussy when he's on that. Who in the hell would finger a pregnant woman?
Starting point is 01:37:21 He's checking out. I mean, that's another one. level of sickness. Yeah, I'm not trying to be too graphic, but you can just see how much he enjoyed it. I mean, he was like rubbing her belly and just... He took his gloves off. Which... Everybody got their kink, I guess. It already got uncomfortable with the breast exam, because you can clearly see he was not examining her breasts.
Starting point is 01:37:48 Yeah. Well, right, and that's what I was saying. It was like a perfectly... like she did what she should have done. Yeah. And I like her the way she was before she reported it because she was like, what if I'm wrong? Yeah. And then the husband was like, do you think you're wrong?
Starting point is 01:38:09 She was like, no. Because of course she didn't think. She immediately came home and took a shower because she felt dirty. Yeah. The only thing missing was Sam's I'm sorry. We're going to skip that line. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:38:29 We're going to hit our explicit. So much for now for editing. No, the only thing missing was him. Oh, we're getting canceled for sure now. We're going out with a fucking bang. I'm kind of scared here. Come on, Lance. What are you trying to say?
Starting point is 01:38:43 Did we break plants? Probably. Great balls of fire Rance, we're losing him. While we wait. Stip his finger. I don't know if I want to know where this thing is going. Okay.
Starting point is 01:39:10 Bill, I'll ask you score. He's just looking for the baby, man. Oh man No I thought he's going to sniff his finger after he Oh Okay I'm done Moving on
Starting point is 01:39:34 Maternity All right Now that we're way off the fucking rails I'm gonna give it a seven A seven A seven Yeah, I think so It was
Starting point is 01:40:02 Hard to do for a Lifetime type movie This looks like it could have been straight on lifetime, on lifetime Except the cast was full of people that it shouldn't have been full of, you know? So they're the ones that raised it to where it was. And it was an enjoyable movie for me, man.
Starting point is 01:40:27 I liked it. I didn't think I was going to be as happy with this week as, you know, when I first started, when I first saw what movies we were watching, I was like, ah, fuck me, here we go. My wife didn't even want to watch them. Right? She loves that shit. Yeah, I was about to say, that should have been right up her alley, right? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:40:49 But, no, I watched them both last night, and I really enjoyed myself, man. It was a good movie. There you go. I'm the odd man out. A three is kind of borderline trash. Yeah. It's not bad, dude. Three, three really is not that.
Starting point is 01:41:11 It needs to be three is like you almost need to take it to the. dumpster. Okay. Well, you know. Maybe if you'd stiffed his finger, it would have pushed this up there for me.
Starting point is 01:41:25 All right. This week. All right. We're moving on to single white female. That seems weirdly specific. Hey.
Starting point is 01:41:44 know plans to be able to make it through this he's going to say something that sets me off we're going to get banned for sure all right single white female single white female a woman advertising
Starting point is 01:42:06 for a new roommate finds that something very strange is going on with the tenant who decides to move in uh director is Barbette Schroeder also known for Barfly and Kiss of Death You guys heard of those? Barfly was a good movie
Starting point is 01:42:25 MAKY Rourke was in a couple of years Yeah Yeah I do know Barfly I don't know the other one though Okay Writer is Don Ruse Also known for Boys on the Side And Happy Endings
Starting point is 01:42:39 Wow Boys on the side Happy Endings Boys on the side. Is that a... No, that's boys riding in the... What's the Drew Barrymore one? I feel like we're back to our
Starting point is 01:42:51 bag of dicks joke. Yeah, let's keep it moving. The BDS... Wow, here we go. The BDSM Club exterior... There we go. Was from a former real Manhattan S&M club
Starting point is 01:43:07 called the Vault. Of course it. A.K.A. the Hellfire Club. In... in the meat packing district of Greek witch village Oh
Starting point is 01:43:21 I'm not a joke That's real trivia and make up fake shit Because this can't be true Before we get off rails Whoever's listening Like explain the meat packing district Because when I hear that
Starting point is 01:43:36 I'm picturing like Where they like P butcher and sell raw meat It's where they pack meat, man. Yeah, but when you watch fucking all these movies, there's like all these damn clubs and shit. Right?
Starting point is 01:43:50 Yeah, why is there a bunch of clubs in the meatpacking district? Yeah, somebody explained that to me. Because wasn't American Psycho? Wasn't that that club they went to? Wasn't that in the meatpacking district?
Starting point is 01:44:03 I'm sure it was. The one where they were doing Coke in the bathroom. Oh, my God, dude. It's, let's government regulations. Hughie Lewis in the news, man. The interior
Starting point is 01:44:17 is a set, but the red signature V is on one of the walls. The entrance used was from a gay club side called The Manhole. There we go. All right. Whoopi Goldberg
Starting point is 01:44:34 auditioned for the role of Allison Jones. What? Wait, which one was Alice Jones? That was a totally different movie. That was. Bad chick, right? No, that was Bridget Fonda. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:44:46 Oh, okay. Oh, wait, which one was Alice? Oh, Allison Jones was the main chick. Yeah, whoopee's, she's a good actress, but I don't think it would work. Right? Huh? She would have been the great as the kook. The crazy bitch, right?
Starting point is 01:45:05 Yeah, but. Oh. I would have loved it. I bet you she could pull that off, too. You know, now that I'm thinking I would love to see Whoopi in a movie where she's taking like a villainous turn.
Starting point is 01:45:19 Like a real, because I think she can really pull it off. I bet you she could. I guarantee you she can play crazy. How is she in the stand? I'm going to tell you right now, guys, after seeing the new Stan miniseries, she's a great actress.
Starting point is 01:45:36 She really is. I've always loved Whoopie. He has no eyebrows. that's true all right single white female uh brian we'll start with you again what do you think uh this is another one i enjoy i don't love it but i thought it was a good story you got the
Starting point is 01:45:57 another i i guess uh similar to the first movie very trusting character because you get elements where she's kind of walked over walked on by her was it that her husband or her boyfriend? I think it was just her boyfriend. Okay, they were supposed to get married.
Starting point is 01:46:18 Yeah. Okay, kind of walked over by him, kind of sexually harassed. He's a little afraid, afraid to actually get the ring, right? Right. Yeah, kind of sexually, well, not kind of sexually harassed, sexually harassed by her employer. Oh, yeah. You kind of find out her owner employer, kind of. That guy, man.
Starting point is 01:46:39 You kind of find out her former employer before then, kind of, took credit for all her work to the point where he's not paying her her same rate as she was getting before. So just kind of maybe overly trusting, overly nice kind of character and then you get
Starting point is 01:46:56 Jennifer Jason Lee who is a fucking weirdo from the moment you meet her. There's something off, which always threw me about the movie because she's about to call the one girl who I don't even think you catch her name.
Starting point is 01:47:13 that seemed like the best out of all the applicants. And then you just kind of go with this girl who just walks into your home without even knocking or anything. And it seems very strange to herself. And that always kind of threw me why you went with her instead of the most normal applicant out of all those wacky-ass people that came to look at her house, especially the one kind of butch chick that was talking about knocking down walls. and I don't know if you got caught that part. We definitely caught that. And, and you know, this was 1992,
Starting point is 01:47:52 so making fun of gay people was a lot more accepted back then. So, yeah, the total butch, right? Yeah. Well, did she necessarily make fun of anybody? I mean, they probably took some. I made fun of somebody. Oh. I think they made, took liberties that they wouldn't now with that.
Starting point is 01:48:11 I don't know. Could be my imagination. on it. I don't think you get it. I don't think you can make this movie now. Probably not. And this is the second,
Starting point is 01:48:21 this is the second movie this week because we got a, me and Nez got a review coming where bad things happen to a puppy and it really upset me. That was rough. You know, did John Wick?
Starting point is 01:48:35 No, but now you're bringing that into my head and that's, in my mind, that's three dogs that meet their demise. Yeah. Dude, that was a hard scene in this movie. Yeah, and then you got the scene where clearly she's a different person when, what is, what is her name? Allie's not around.
Starting point is 01:48:55 And so, and then she just gets jealous of the dog because, you know, the dog's kind of into Allie more. Right. And you got to where she essentially just kind of kicks the dog across the room. Well, not kick, but, you know, forcibly moves with her foot. Yeah. Yeah. That was actually pretty telling how, like, she was, one way when she was around
Starting point is 01:49:15 a different way when she was alone with the dog. Yeah, which you got to do your research. You got to call references. And the only thing I didn't care for was this whole backstory about the twin. Because I felt like it really commented me that much. I feel like that sort of set the tone, though, because
Starting point is 01:49:34 she wanted... I thought so too, man. Yeah, she wanted somebody to latch on to be her best friend until the day that they die, you know? You're right. Friends to the end. Yeah, but you don't go suck off your friend's boyfriend.
Starting point is 01:49:50 Well, that's a good point. He didn't exactly stop her, did he? No, and he didn't last that long either. I probably wouldn't have either. Yeah, that's a hard situation. No pun intended.
Starting point is 01:50:07 She looked like she did a pretty good job. Great death scene, though, with the heel of the shoe in the eye. Talking about a bag of dicks. All right, all right, all right. But the only thing that doesn't, there's a few things that I don't like. I don't like how when she was,
Starting point is 01:50:30 basically she was at the point where her roommate has to go. She felt so bad about it. And I'm like, there hasn't been that much time. That's true. For you guys to develop a relationship. where you felt bad. But has there been?
Starting point is 01:50:44 I mean, there might have been more time, you know, than, you know, a movie's a movie, right? Yeah, I mean, we did get the montage of them eating ice cream. But yeah, the puppy was still a puppy. Yeah. Ah, okay, that's true. That's true. That kind of dates it, right? A week went by after a week.
Starting point is 01:51:05 I'm like, I'm sorry. It didn't work out. Yeah. But get the fuck out. Yeah. and try not to kill my fucking dog on your way out. Yeah, and don't kill my best friend that's upstairs. Did he live?
Starting point is 01:51:20 I don't know. Hell no. No, the dog definitely didn't live. I don't know, man. It's hard to tell. They didn't really flesh that out. He kind of zombieed himself back to life there for a minute. Yeah, because my memory was that when he woke up, he saved her.
Starting point is 01:51:40 And then she killed him real, but rewatching it, I was kind of unsure. Yeah. Either way, this bitch was crazy. Yes. Headie. Yeah. No pun intended. And I will say, Hetty Swallows.
Starting point is 01:52:01 And I will say, Hetty swallows. I knew. get you on board. All right. Yeah, man. I... I like this movie. It was...
Starting point is 01:52:22 I thought that the transition between, you know, when she changed her hair and all that, and got all this confidence. Oh, yeah, that got creepy, huh? And it was like, yeah, kind of taken over her persona. Yeah, and then... When she went to her closet, like, she had the same exact fucking
Starting point is 01:52:38 outfits. Not only the same clothes bought, but the same outfits put together. Yeah, like where you've been, neighbors have been seeing her walking down the hall and think it was the same person. Yeah. Well, because why would you not? You know, I mean, they look pretty goddamn similar.
Starting point is 01:52:55 And then I thought that towards the end when she, it was like a last little kick in the gut when she's like, well, nobody even knows that I'm here. Everything's in your name. People think that I'm you. That was well. That was well done.
Starting point is 01:53:11 That was well done. I like that. So it was like more than just crazy. It was crazy and conniving. So that was kind of cool. But there was just times when I don't know. You got you got to get out and get away. Yeah. Like when she finds out she's going back with the boyfriend and she,
Starting point is 01:53:30 her whole demeanor and tone just changes and she calls her funny beat. And then tries to go back to, oh, I'm sorry. I didn't, I didn't mean it. You know, I'm like, this bitch is crazy. Yeah. There were definitely some warning signs and you probably should have changed some shit. Might have missed them, huh?
Starting point is 01:53:47 Immediately. All right. You're obviously nuts. Bye. But, hey, then the movie wouldn't have happened. Because. Lance, what'd you think? I kind of like this one.
Starting point is 01:54:04 I really enjoyed the acting. I will say this. I'm a, I'm a, I've got to. a huge crush on Bridget Fonda and I have god damn I guess since the 90s and my wife would tell you she knows that I think she's super hot
Starting point is 01:54:21 and I think not to mean I don't mean to cut you off but you know what's weird about her I always found her kind of one note in her roles but I don't find her to be a bad actress yeah I you know what she was in that one that was
Starting point is 01:54:36 the remake of Lafam Nikita remember that I can't remember what it was called, but I went to see that one in the theater with my wife, and I was like, holy shit, she's hot. And she was like, she hit me on the arm. I remember that. She was like, shut up.
Starting point is 01:54:52 Point of no return. Point of no return, yes. And Jennifer Jason Lee, I know for a fact that Nez had wet dreams about her when he was a kid, because he stole me. Stephen Weber, Stephen Weber is, in my opinion.
Starting point is 01:55:10 all right just my opinion one of the worst actors in the history of acting he's terrible shit I just now realize that was Stephen Weber oh he's so bad I don't know why that TV show wings and
Starting point is 01:55:25 like a couple of Stephen King miniseries and stuff like that but he's so bad oh yeah that guy so one note to me I don't know oh gosh he was Jack Tornson the the Shining mini series oh my God but he did have fantastic hair.
Starting point is 01:55:42 Which is why he got cast for everything, I'm sure. I'm going to tell you what made this movie for me, Brian. And this is why it's not two losses in a row. Stephen Tubelowski. What a fucking
Starting point is 01:55:58 horn dog. What a jerk. I mean, holy shit. He's over here like rubbing her on her, on her, on her shoulder blades and like uh oh yeah he's so so he's so bad he's very and i love him he's bad in a good way and it was interesting the way he played the character because he was obviously very rapy in hansy but he almost came off the word i was looking for he almost came off kind of i don't know
Starting point is 01:56:31 if this is the right word uh flamboyant just kind of i don't know maybe it was the position i don't know Were they in fashion or something? He may be an equal opportunity rapist. I don't mean like, I don't mean like that. I just meant he was very, I don't know how to put it. I don't know how to put it either, but I get that vibe too. I know exactly what you're saying, dude. Yeah, I don't know if it was the position of his job that kind of made him kind of arrogant.
Starting point is 01:57:05 Because I don't mean to be disrespectful to the actor. I mean, he's not a handsome man. He's a great actor. I love him. He's not a handsome man, but... I need him and I love him. He's so creepy. Yeah, he's not a handsome man, but
Starting point is 01:57:17 the way he came off, like, women should be just beating him off with a stick because he's so irresistible and you're going to want this. And yeah, he definitely was a standout character in this one.
Starting point is 01:57:34 I definitely had fun with this movie. I definitely enjoyed this one and I love the way that she came in there and she wormed her way in slowly but surely and then she had the same haircut, the same wig, the same dress.
Starting point is 01:57:51 Yeah, this was a big step up from the other movie, in my opinion. I definitely enjoyed it a lot more, so good pick here, Brian. Can I say, can I say their neighbors ain't shit? You guys are going to complain
Starting point is 01:58:06 because of a lot of music, but not over gunshots. I didn't even think about that. Oh, my God. I didn't even think about that. Oh, wow. This is, it's, it's like an inadvertent comedy, isn't it? Oh, I think.
Starting point is 01:58:32 Is that it? Unless you're having Dan DeHan showing up in the next movie. I'm out. Let's do it. We're going to remake one. Dane DeHan would have been a Stephen Weber role. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:58:47 The same blank look on his face, right? No, Dane's more like, can somebody give me a blanket and a pillow because I need to lay down. Yeah, that heroin is rough. Yeah, put some, what do they do?
Starting point is 01:59:04 Put cucumbers on the eyes, get rid of them bags. Something like that. Night before it was pretty rough for d. Wow, this turned into a lot longer show than I thought it was going to, guys. I guess we had a lot to talk about with all our changes coming, huh?
Starting point is 01:59:19 Well, we did break you for a second there. I know that the wife is asking me to please come color some eggs with her. Okay. Let's get the scores. I was first, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:59:36 Didn't like it as much as the hand of rocks the cradle, but I thought it was a pretty good psychological thriller, liked the story. There was a couple things I was a little bit confused with, but talking about it with you guys. I was going to give a six and a half, but I'll bring it up to a seven. Damn, that's a good score, man.
Starting point is 01:59:57 Yeah, I think I'm going to stick with that six and a half score. I didn't like it quite as much as the hand that rocks the cradle. But, I mean, interesting storyline. Still, another... The hand that rocks the bag and dicks. Still a lifetime movie, scope opera-e kind of thing. Right.
Starting point is 02:00:21 It's all in the same vein. And it works in this one too. So a good movie. I liked it. Definitely worth watching. Fond to re-watch. Lance? This one I will give a six and a half.
Starting point is 02:00:36 I definitely enjoyed it. This is not where I thought you were going. No, I enjoyed it a lot more than I didn't. I think there was a lot. a lot more intelligence at the script on this one and better acting. So six and a half for me.
Starting point is 02:00:49 What, what three, three and a half or something for the first one? Three? Yeah, so essentially gave a 10 to both movies. There we go. If you want to look at it that way, you can look at it that way.
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