The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #261: The Year In Horror 1986, Part 1: Poltergeist II: The Other Side & Deadly Friend

Episode Date: May 23, 2021

This week, we check out Poltergeist II and Deadly Friend. Cool of the week pretty much is Army of the Dead. Trailers this week are Let Us In and Fear Street. The podcast spotlight shines on The Super Network. And we get feedback from Charles Means, Al Ramseur, Steven Lowblad, Kate Pollock, Matt Wood, Tim Davis, Derek Bourgeois, Eddie Ramirez, Two Chicks and a Horror Flick, Michael Richards, Cameron Sullivan, Ry Guy, Daeron Wilson, Alan Easterling, Bede Jermyn, and Marcey Papandrea. Thanks for listening!

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I'm Lance and with me as always, my co-host, Brian and Philip and Kevin, dude, Miss you for a couple of weeks, man. What's up? Nah, nothing, man. Just work here and there. If you guys listening to the last... Was there stream fiends, Brian, when I was talking about, where I did?

I think, yeah, stream fangs. Yeah. After a year and a half, I got on an airplane, flew to Vegas for Days of the Dead horror convention. Oh, how that go? Very timely. It was good, man. It was small, not quite as big as Texas Frangmare.

Well, I guess if you put both of the rooms, both of the exhibit halls together, it might have been about that big. Hey, man, you went to work and vinched. Yeah. It wasn't when we got there. but as the day went on it was starting to fill up because they were saying it was sold out it wasn't like shoulder to shoulder walking around

in there so I don't know if they like had a limit on how many people they could have in there but yeah because it was the big exhibit hall and then one room for the panels and the two panels that I went into there was

hardly anyone in no well let me take that back the Dream Warriors one that was it was pretty full but when the Halloween one started there was hardly anyone in there so but just to go to a con again it just felt good I mean I was a little nervous in the beginning especially on the plane ride because I have never flown anywhere during all of this so

but that wasn't too bad just wear your mask and got on the plane and got to Vegas and um take off the mask uh apparently in Las Vegas Nevada the pandemic is over because nobody had masks. I saw you post that, man. Well, it wasn't like that.

We were there only like three weeks ago, Nez, and we had to wear a mask in our own cabana at the swimming pool. So, dude, they changed overnight then. They had the mask. A cabana boy? Yes. They had the masks signs everywhere, but Vegas, I guess, do what you want.

Right. But it was good. I was a little nervous. I was like, all right, let me just watch myself for the next few days. And that was over a week ago, last Saturday.

And my son and I, he went, this was his first horror convention. And he, he had a blast. He went for it on buying things because he just never sees all this type of stuff. At the other cons that we go to,

like San Diego and all that. But he's ready for another one. There is another one happening in August, closer to us in Sacramento. The Sinister Creature Con I've gone to that one a few times So he's ready for that That one is much

Much smaller than Than Days of the Dead So but it's cool There's a lot of good vendors there They have a lot of good Guests coming Right before the pandemic hit They were supposed to have one

And all three of the The cast from the Blurwich project We're supposed to be there And I was hoping they were going to be At this next one But it doesn't look like it But I'm like damn it So, but there is some, there's some guests there that I do want to meet.

So what, at this one, dude, what, what was it like with the guests? Were they all masked? Or were they, like, standoffish? Were they doing pictures? Were they, like, shaking hands with you? Or how, how was that? Was it awkward? No, everybody was cool.

I mean, they took pictures with everyone. A couple of them wore masks with the pictures. Um, but, um, most of them were just sitting there just like it was nothing and wow yeah that's what I'm talking about

let's get that fucking thing off of there dude you've already had it and you've had a vaccine what are you worried about well I haven't had it you can still get it yeah I don't want it how many people have gotten twice

I've known quite a few people up here so had it twice yeah somebody up here had it three times Holy shit What the fuck? I wouldn't leave the house

If I got a three times Yeah right Yeah that would be a third strike right Yeah I mean but I mean Everyone was cool Nobody was like I wear a mask or anything

I was just kind of more shocked If anything Yeah But the guests They were cool They didn't have no No rules about All right

Stay this far away from me and no, they were cool. They were putting arms around all the fans and everything. So it was good. I mean, some wore masks. Some didn't. A lot of them just took the mask off when they took pictures, but I seen a couple where they had the masks on.

But, I mean, overall, I mean, walking around through there and everything, I had mine on the whole time, but then you just kind of forget about it because I was just there to have fun. And I was asking my son, And I said, are you okay? You call this.

You're not, don't feel weird. It was, no, I'm good. So, but he had fun. But he was, it was a long day. We got up like at three in the morning and drove to Reno and got on a flight. And we were up like the whole time. So he was wrecked on that, uh, the Uber ride back to the airport. And once we got on the plane, he was crashed out.

Nice. It was good. We had a really good time. We met, met a lot of cool people. and everything and I cannot wait to go to another one. So this one, I should figure, okay, this one will set the bar

if I'm going to continue to go to more. But I had such a good time. I'm definitely going to go to another one. I wanted to make it down to the one in your area. Oh. Houston one? But...

Yeah, yeah, yeah. That was just recently, right? It's coming up next month. Okay, that's right. The Scary Dad podcast guys are involved that. Yeah, I wanted, I was going to go. That was my plan, but I don't know if I can go to Texas twice and two weeks in a row, because I'm going earlier to the Rangers game when the A's beat down the Rangers, so I want to go to that and then we shall see all the Rangers too much, but that's where I grew up, man. You're not an Astros fan? I'm an Astros fan too. I know more

about the Astros than I do about the Rangers at this point. I lived in Houston longer than I lived in Dallas. I eventually want to get down there to go to a game. My bucket list is to go to as many stadiums as I can. So I eventually want to get to Houston. So I've never been to Ranger Stadium. I've seen it, but I've never been in it.

So I want to go to that. How's the town feeling about the Warriors? I don't. for me, everyone knows if you guys listen to the show, I can give a fuck about the Warriors, but, um... Good.

Can I just say, Draymond Green? Don't ever fucking take the last shot in the game to save it. In your love... Wow. I'm not a Warriors fan, but good grief.

I got it looked like... He looked like he just figured out he was supposed to throw the round thing into the other round thing in the game, man. That sounds like more of a coaching thing, man. How does this? And then the halftime or overtime wasn't even over and the fans started leaving.

And I was like, wow. You guys are really supporting your team that gave you like, what, four championships? I don't know. You're going to have to talk to Theo. Brian, you and Theo need to go do a basketball show because I, when he talks basketball, goes right over my head. I don't know what he's talking about. Those fans ain't Oakland.

they? I don't know. He's just a warrior fan. I don't care where they go. I'm going to shut up. Where's the stadium? It's right on the water. I would say if not a mile from where the baseball stadium is, maybe a little

bit more. It's not very far from where the Giants play. It's like right down the road. They built, they pretty much cleared out all the warehouses and everything down this one street because it was just like, you didn't want to go down that street at all, day or night. But then since all the tech people are taking over and they're just buying up all this land,

there's a lot of little bars, and now they're turning where they built that arena. It's like a little, it looks, I've never been over there. I've driven by, it kind of looks like a little mall. And then there's the arena where the Warriors play. And I guess they had a few concerts before the world shut down, but not sure when exactly, they're going to start letting concerts and all that happen. I know if they haven't already, I know they said they were going to start letting fans go to the games. So I don't keep it over the worst.

I don't know. Go Rockets next year. Yeah, it's a nice. It looks nice from the outside. That's not going to happen. It looks nice from outside, but I don't know. I'm just waiting for wrestling to be there. So I'm pretty sure Vince will jump on.

and have some kind of pay-per-view there. And when that happens, I'll be there. They're going on tour. 25 city tour starting in July. San Francisco on one of them? I don't know. I know they're bringing back fucking what's his name.

Old movie star, John Cena. Uh-oh. He's bringing his hair with him. How do you know that you can't see him? I see that hair. Yeah, he was in all, How many Fast and Furious movies is there?

I'll see myself out. That sounds right. Yeah, see, he was an all nine of them. You just couldn't see him. Jesus Christ, too. It's all about family. He's always been around. Yeah, makes sense.

All right. But other than that, Days of the Dead Horror Con, it's a traveling one. I think it goes to Indianapolis in Chicago. And I think Texas, but I don't know where. Either Houston or Dallas, one of them. But if you guys haven't been, definitely go. It was a good time.

And I can't wait to go to next years or just a horacom in general. So I don't know. But, yeah. It's been a long time coming, right? Yep. That's awesome. I'm excited, man. Texas is pretty much opened back up.

Yeah, I'm ready. Nobody's yelling at you for not wearing a mask anymore? Oh, yeah. No, six flags mask off today. They say, of course, if you're vaccinated. But, of course, they don't ask you, right? Well, right, but, hey, if you are, don't worry about it. If you're not, that's your problem.

It's your own personal issue, huh? What do you think, Ryan? Me and Naz heard about a place where you can go get a vaccination card, allegedly. Really? Just make sure the FBI ain't there. They give you a card when you can get vaccinated. Oh, I got you. Ah, I gotcha.

Okay, well. Allegedly, allegedly. how they roll here in Cali. All right. You guys ready to roll on to cool of the week, Ness? Yeah. Well,

that was mine to cool the week. That was it? Yeah. No, that was cool of two weeks ago, wasn't it? It was only last week, man. But I'm still flying on that high because I didn't do nothing this week but work.

Oh, here, I'll go because mine sucks. That's what's still a not so cool of the week, right, Brian? Yeah. It depends on what it is. It was, well,

I should have followed Brian's advice, but my wife was watching I can't even remember what the name of the movie is that's how fucking boring it was the woman in the window is that it? Oh God, I did watch that. I thought it was okay. I can't remember a fucking thing about it.

She looked out the window, seen a murder, people said it didn't happen. Right? And spoilers. Where have we heard this before? Yeah. It was like,

I was scrolling through it because I was like trying to remember details and I was like, did I see this part? I don't think I see, maybe I didn't finish this movie. And then I got through it and I was like, oh, I vaguely remember that. I don't know shit. It's a great cast of people that barely were in the movie. Yeah.

Brian, you know, it's a lot like rear window, of course, but you mentioned another movie that Sigourney Weaver had been in, that it was a lot like? Copycat, because being agoraphobic and not being able to go outside. I read an article a couple of days ago that I guess whoever made that movie is suing him for it now. Really? Saying that it's too close, yeah.

Well, it's too close to a whole shitload of movies. Right, it's very... A little bit of this, a little bit of that. Netflix. Okay. So, yeah, not impressed. So that's all I've gotten the chance to watch. I'm waiting to watch what I know you guys are going to talk about.

uh that's that's coming up after the show Brian you want to go next uh yeah because I got a couple of new series and of course a movie uh the two series I started one's on Hulu Modoc Marvel's new animated series yeah I saw commercial for that yes not for the kids

I don't love her humor I'm digging it so far it's kind of I got the claymation type animation. Okay. Yeah, Modoc. They're trying to make him a sympathetic villain. Trying to take over the world by day and getting a divorce and separation from his kids at night. Why not?

Not yet. Not yet. Odok. Is this on the Disney Channel or what? Hulu. Hulu. Okay. What the fuck?

I'm looking at this. I remember this character, but from the comic books, I never heard about this show being out. You recommend it then? Yeah, for right now, I'm only a couple episodes in, so it's definitely got

adult humor that... It's not bad adult humor, as I can see right now. It just might be some adult humor that might go over kids' heads. Ah, okay. and let's see watching the new

I'm halfway done with the new season of love, death, and robots I forgot about that yeah me too how does it compare I think it's a little bit more tighter a little bit more you know because it's a I think last season was like 18 episodes

this season's eight so I think they kind of cut out all that I wouldn't say there was anything bad from the first season, but there was maybe some episodes that weren't really needed. And I think that kind of just, excuse me, that kind of went with a smaller, smaller season to get the best out of what they could. And great animation.

Of course, every episode is like different animation styles and always appreciate that. And, yeah, enjoying that one too. Nice. So you're able to. you're able to get through them pretty quickly then? Yeah, you know, I think I stopped to

I had to go do something, but I think if you watched season two straight through it's probably like maybe 45 minutes. Oh shit, that's a chip shot, man. Yeah, maybe an hour, but it's a quick watch.

And the only new movie I got in was Army of the day. Zach Snyder's aren't of dead. And I wish I've seen this in the theater. Is it out in the theater?

Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it is? Oh, man. So I was thinking that the whole time I was watching it last night, Brian. It is good, fun, zombie-killing action. It is two and a half hours, but I did not mind it because there was constant action throughout the movie. good mix of

CGI and practical effects agreed a lot a lot of characters I I practically loved almost every character even the ones that you know you're a piece of shit so your outcome's going to be very

very satisfying certain certain character from son's anarchy right yeah I didn't do that guy's outcome

was not going to be good. He was an asshole right when he came on the screen. I loved all the characters. I love the story. I'm ready for the prequel movie, and they're also doing... Shit, okay. Yeah, they're doing a prequel movie in a animated... No, they're doing a spinoff movie and a prequel animated series.

Huh. And I believe those are all coming to Netflix. So, yep, I'm in on the Zach Snyder Army of Dead universe. So that's it. Yeah. Oh, rewatch Psycho Gorman. It's on Shudder.

Ah, yeah. That's worth Shelt now, too. It's still a lot of fun. Yeah. Yeah, you definitely just mentioned two top tens at my end of the year list, dude, because, yeah, I just watched my favorite movie of the year last night. And that is, of course, the same one, Brian, Army of the Dead. Favorite of the year? Wow.

Yeah. It's in the lead for me right now. There were a couple of, you know, maybe. and plot holes and things like that. Like, well, why would they have done it that way? And there's no need to nitpick this movie. Would you guys say it's a non... It's not a nitpick-worth movie?

I kind of feel like that's why they're doing the prequel. Ah, to fill in some blanks. Yeah, I think there's going to be some fillings. Okay, that makes sense. At least in my mind, that's what I want. But, you know, we've always... We often talked about not getting what we thought we wanted. and I think that's what it's going to go to.

Ness, what did you post about that opening sequence, man? Oh, man. I mean, that could have been the whole movie right there. No shit, dude. It was just boom, boom. Just reminded me of how he hit us with the Dawn the Dead remake. Oh, that was serious. Yeah.

Sons just in the face right in the beginning. Mm-hmm. Oh, at the end. I was, I don't think Ness has made it to the end yet. No, I don't mean the end of the 15 minutes. Yeah, okay, gotcha. Oh, yeah, I know what you.

Okay, I got you. I was like, we just met that person. I thought that was going to be funny. Sorry if you hear a kid screaming in the background. My grandson's here running up and down a hall. But anyway, that sounds like fun. Yeah, but, man, that seemed like it was,

a short movie right there man it just boom it starts all the hell breaks loose in Vegas you meet these characters don't get attached to them and then it was sad I was like oh my god you had a whole story arc right yeah I was like what

what's happening so I'm I only watched I don't even think half of it so but oh cool that was enough you got a treat man I'm saying, I'll tell you that I thought the cast was like perfect. Everybody put into every part was just the right actor for that part. And they had some really big names in there.

And I'll tell you what, TIG Notaro with her little smart-ass things that she says, the helicopter pilot. I'm starting to really fucking like her. Everything she's in lately, she just makes me laugh. And Garrett Dillahunt, he's also in the Fear of the Walking Dead. He's got a major role in that. I don't know if he still does. I haven't watched it in the year. He's damned good than that.

TIG was replacement for what's his name, the one comedian. What? That I still can't. I still can't fuck. I think I did the same thing when I brought it up. I can't ever remember his name.

The guy that got big. Well, fortunately, nobody gives a shit about Fear of the Walking Dead, so I think he was. The comedian went viral. He went viral for doing like an M&M impression or something. What? you have to get more specific than that

but he he had quite a few young underage women speak out wow so uh let me let me call up tig see if she wants to be in a movie instead

that's cool hey man knowing the comedy the comedian's comedy I kind of felt like I don't think he would have fit and it seemed like it was a good choice to go with her Cool. I think it worked out perfectly.

And I'm going to say this was probably my favorite soundtrack of a movie that I've seen in the last five or six years. Oh, I know. I'm just, I'm like humming Elvis just from the beginning of the movie. Dude, every song is like perfect and there were so many, you know, remakes. Like it wasn't the original artist. I'm assuming MGM must have made the movie, right, Brian? Uh, I would say so. I know it was a Netflix production. Okay, well, I noticed all the casinos that are owned by MGM properties had the correct name on them,

and the other one they, like, made up names and shit. Chris Dalia. There you go. Chris Dalia. Oh, that guy. Oh, that guy. Yeah, I kind of like him, too. Well, you know, just really quick.

Do they go more into Patient Zero, or was that it from the beginning? Oh, you get more of him. Okay. All right, that's all. He shows up gloriously. Yes. Okay. My wife and my brother and sister-in-law are in there watching it right now.

Oh, dude, you're missing out. Talk to you in two and a half hours. Yeah. We'll probably still be talking, deadly friend. All right. That wraps up cool of the week. On to horror headlines. Yeah, I guess so, right?

If we got into this week. Let me see here. let me see I feel like it's I feel like it's summer we should be getting into like some news but it just you would think but things are just

starting to yeah roll back on to normal so let's start here sexy sexy Natalie Emanuel you guys might know her from Game of Thrones

as DeNarius's right hand her interpreter yes so she is going to to be in a Dracula-inspired horror movie titled The Bride. Oh, that works. Oh, is this part of the new... This isn't the bride, like the Bride of Frankenstein, is it?

No, no. The Bride of Dracula. Oh, you said Dracula. Sorry. I knew you were listening, Lance. All right. As long as they still had the giant ass hairdo, I think we're okay. Yeah, I think you've got to go with that.

Yeah, I mean, you have to at this point. is iconic. Terrifier 2, director Damien Leone, promises the epic final cut of the film, which he said we're going to get here soon. It will be two hours long. So they're upping it up this time. Okay.

Two hours. Wow. Two hours of Art the Clown. I'm digging deep here for some news. The Don't Breathe 2 is officially rated R for gruesome and bloody images. Don't Breathe was the one with the blind guy? Yep. Okay.

He's still barred. Blin. Oh, man. Claire Reese and Evil, both second seasons will be moving from CBS to Paramount Plus. I only watched the first episode of Clarit. Are you anyone else watch it? I'm a couple of episodes in. I dig it.

Yeah? Yeah. Yeah. I kept my attention. Yeah, I've just got this thing about network TV. Like, it has to really, I got to hear a lot of good shit about it for me to watch something that's on regular network. Yeah. I kind of dug evil.

That was a. Was it? Is it still going? Yeah. Second season's going to premiere on, uh, premier on, uh, For Paramount Plus. I think that's going to be, I think a lot of stuff's going to be moving from CBS. Makes sense.

Maybe Philip will finally take the plunge, huh? Oh, no. I didn't think so. Okay. Hey, they're doing good to still have me with Disney. Ah, you got to have Disney. If you have kids, you have to have Disney. Let's see.

The second season of Netflix's zombie show Black Summer will premiered June 17th. Yes, I'm excited for this. I need to watch that. I need to rewatch that first season. That was like, what, three years ago? Was that like a web series? It came out,

and then they were trying to say it was connected to that Z Nation, but everybody was like, this is like two totally different tones. And then, I guess with the success of the show, they were like, no, it's its own thing.

to Black Summer. I mean, Z-Nation was just like goofy. I mean, I loved it, but it was... Black Summer didn't seem goofy at all, but I don't know. Oh, is there any more news? Am I just rehashing? Here's something. A movie called Poor Things. Mark Ruffalo's?

Yeah, Mark Ruffalo to star with Emma Stone and horror romance. Oh, wow. Okay. All right. Got a good cast. Emma Stone. Is that with the eyes far apart? Your girl.

You got a thing with Emma Stone now, too? Count me out. It's directed by your ghost. This is going to be super fucking weird. It says the film will be a Victorian tale of love, discovery and scientific daring. Poor things tells the incredible story of Bell Baxter, a young woman brought back to life by an eccentric but brilliant scientist. Huh.

Okay. We're going to talk about that kind of movie later. Is it going to be smart Hulk? That sounds terrible. Here, I got something for you guys. A movie we reviewed, I think, last year. The Hunger. Tony Scott's the vampire classic, The Hunger.

Oh, yeah. Warner Brothers is developing a... remake for it. And when I posted this, the social media, I got a lot of people saying why. Yeah, that's a good question. Just leave it alone.

Like, I don't know that it was big enough to be able to make a remake of. And two, stop fucking remaking movies, man. Come on. We got enough shit to watch without remaking shit that didn't need to get remade in the first. Oh, man. So who's going to

play David Bowie's part. Dane Dane Don. Perfect casting. Shaneh O'Connor. Oh, good thing. Let's see. Henry Cavill is in Tox the Star and the Highlander reboot from the John Wick director.

Just give me another Superman. Yeah, I know I said stop remaking stuff, but that kind of makes sense. Yeah. Like, I, I, I can see Henry Cavill and Highlander. That sounds pretty cool. I'd watch that.

You think Chris Lambert is too old? Maybe he'll be in it too. Is he still alive? Yeah. Wow. He hasn't done anything in a while, has he? Somewhere he's shedding a tear. Sorry, buddy.

That's Raven. Yeah, it is, Raiden. I forgot about that. I think that is it. All right. It's going to be talking about stuff we didn't talk about a million times. I guess it's on to the trailer park then. Naz, you ready?

Yep, let's go. All right. To a little piece of paradise. Way out of the woods. Shh, shh, careful. You got to even if we use the lyrics. All right. So, Ryan, what you got for us, man?

First one is let us in. A rash of teenagers go missing in the small town and one ostracized 12-year-old and her best friend step into figure out what's going on. This stars Tobin Bell Ah, Jake saw himself.

Yeah, Lawrence Demile Sadie Stanley, Sienna, Addu, adung. I don't know. Okay. This is where the names get fucked up.

McKenzie Ziegler, McKenzie Ross. Oh, there's two McKenzie's in the movie. Directed by Craig Moss and written by Craig Moss and Joe Colorado. What did you guys think of let us in? I'm all in. I'm all in. Yep, I like it.

What I saw looked cool. At first I thought it was going to be like a little kid. type of thing, but then... Right, right. You got a little dark at the end of that trail. I'm in. I want to see them get their comeuppance because you shouldn't be summoning spirits.

So, I'm in. Spirits or aliens? Yeah, that's what I was trying to figure out. Phillips always going to see aliens, no matter what genre of horridians. Yeah. Maybe spirits and aliens live in the same area. I don't know.

Maybe it's the same... They may have the same area code, huh? Yeah. The same dimension. and you see Ghost of Mars Oh well We'll get into a little bit With the

I don't know This looks a little too young adult for me man It's like You're giving us This YA week, Brian Or what? With the trailers Yeah

I guess so But the other one is The next one we're going to talk about Is highly highly anticipated by a lot of people. Oh, yeah. I wish my grandkids would fucking read.

All they do is watch YouTube videos all the time and stuff. That's the generation. Yeah. We're going to forget how to read before too long. Yeah. Oh, no kidding. We're headed that way.

I was watching this interview with Chris Rock, and he was talking about how kid, when it comes to the bike or the tablet, kids go with the bike that's good yeah I have to like

I mean no no no no I said that wrong they want to go with the tablet they don't yeah I was about to say yeah of course not me when I was good man I mean you know there was no tablets but I was out in the fucking cruising down to the woods with my buddies

you know the same here it's different though right yeah although we did play a lot of Atari I have to say that well see that's the thing I played a lot lot of video games, but I've also played a lot of sports.

Right. Yeah. I also did a lot of shit outside because I have the scars and stuff like that to prove it. Well, yeah, just exploring the world. It was different, though. Like, it seems, especially now that I have kids, seems weird to just let them go outside and play by themselves and wander around and not know where the fuck they are. Like, dude, my mom didn't have a clue. where the fuck I was when I was same here, no cell phones or no cell phones or anything. Yeah.

That was the long as we were on the porch before the streetlights came on. That was our rule. She didn't care where we were. They already don't know how to write cursive anymore. Reading could be another 50 years away. We'll see.

The evolution. And everything we just said has nothing to do with the movie. But it does come out July 2nd. Okay. On to the next and final trailer. It is going to be a three-week, I guess, epic movie release schedule for fans of R.L. Stein's Fair Street, because you get a movie every three weeks. It is a trilogy of movies called Fear Street.

I believe the first one is part 1, 1994, part 2, 1978, and part 3, 191666. I like the idea. Let's see, I'm not going to go through the castellist because I think the castles is different for every movie, but it is directed by Lee Jenick, who let's see what he did. name sounds familiar is this something new or is it like a book series it's based off arl stearine's book series i didn't know that i didn't either but i had that feeling

yeah i guess it does she directed uh lynch she directed that movie uh honeymoon oh that's a great movie oh man she's worked on the outcast tv show and the scream tv show so she she's in she's

dipped her toes in in genre movies and shows. I know nothing about the book. Honeymoon went super dark, man. It's just super dark. So I wonder how they're going to treat this. Which season is screen? Kind of exciting.

I don't know. Couldn't have been that fucking last one. Oh, that one was garbage. Anyway. Let's see. Synopsis. A murder mystery shakes up the town of Shadysha. Shadyside, Ohio.

this features the adaptation of R. L. Stein's book series. Shadyside, Ohio. Isn't that where our friend Darren lives? I think he's in Shadyside. Darren, let us know. Let us know, man. Let's see. The second installment of Fear Street trilogy

in which campers and counselors from Sunnyvale face off against those from Shadyville. Oh. And the third movie, the synopsis goes way to go RMDB the third installment

of Fiersteed trilogy that's the end that's the they're probably keeping it under wraps man that's close enough close enough

hey it's not untrue but I like the whole the whole idea of not having to wait for these trilogy of movies you'll get one like however Netflix releases them on Friday

like three weeks in a row. So I'm in. And the one person I do recognize from the cast is Maya Hawk from Stranger Things. Oh, okay. So I like her. I think she needs to play her mom's daughter in Kill Bill 3.

Which one is she in Stranger Things? Was she the one that worked in the ice cream place with Steve? Oh, okay, okay, I gotcha. Yeah, I mean, I think it looks like a really cool idea if they do it right and they pull it off. I mean, this could change the way that some of these trilogy movies are made, you know? And I am totally on board with that. Hopefully it doesn't suck. I didn't realize the R.L. Stein part of it until you said something.

So we'll see how that works out. Yeah, I'm looking at the poster. It might not be aimed at me. on the poster we got a bloody butcher knife a pitch fork and an axe so I hope they get used or not just used in the poster let's see part

one July 2nd part 2 July 9th and part 3 July 16th exclusively on Netflix I like it hopefully it works and maybe after we watch it

we will have a better understanding because I felt like we didn't know what we were talking about for this trailer review. No, not at all. I'm hoping they have something to do with each other. Although if it's a book series, I would assume so, but I don't know. If it's some anthology bullshit, that's dumb.

I agree. All right. That's it. All right. Really quick. I hold on really quick. This is going to be fast. go. Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children of all ages, welcome to a quick little

episode of the wrestling returns. For the love of mankind. Yep, Belveteen Dream released by W.W.E. Brian, what do you think? Uh, stop sending dick pics to underage girls and you won't get released. Oh, out. Um, well, allegedly, allegedly. No, let me, uh, that's, that could be documented. This is what I'm reading. Um, um, especially, um, uh, well, let's, that's, uh, that can be documented. Um, part of the speaking out moving last April that shone had light on sexual abuse and misconduct in the pro wrestling industry. He was

accused of sending pictures to underage boys. More allegations arose in June when he denied all the allegations saying a private photo of mine was shared without my consent or knowledge and I am working on a third party to look into this matter. He is also

yeah, something else but yeah, he's... The fourth person on this podcast. that we've talked about with sexual misconduct with minors. Today. Tonight? Yes. What in the fuck?

Yeah. Not a banner episode, guys. He just got released the other day, him and some other. I don't know who the other ones were. Oh, they did another, I'm doing my air quotes, listeners. Can't see me. Budgetary cuts, even though last year was one of their most profitable years. they

wwe likes to sign up talent so other companies can't sign them and they have them sit around and do nothing and waste the good years of their career then they release them but not outright release them because there's always no competition clause so when they go home they have to sit there

and wait even more before they can even talk to any other companies so but this velveteen dream Belveteen Dream, anything criminal, sexual allegations, they usually cut ties. I liked him too, but after all this happened, man, I'm like, now I'm good to me. You can. Yeah. Yeah.

You can go to jail for all I can. Don't know with the little girls and little boys or whichever one it was now. Yeah, I first heard it was girls. If he didn't do it, then, okay. but it's looking like WWE's not going to back him up to the fullest. So I don't know if

they're just not confident in the case or maybe they discovered something. So. Yeesh. I know they did their they did their own investigation. So I don't know if they maybe they don't think he has a strong enough case and they're like, well,

we can't have this image with our company. So. Why? Man, why? What the fuck? People are sick. It's a real. Yeah. Especially, like, if you're fucking famous and shit,

what are you doing? Yeah, no shit, man. I have a theory that some people aren't just, they're not made to be famous. Yeah. They can't handle, they can't handle, like, if, when you see something,

they start screaming and crying just because they see you. That, you know, that's not a normal thing to have that kind of attention. And I just think certain people can't handle it and they get fucking weird or their weirdness they already have. They try to, you know, go with it. And I'm really glad that if some of these people are doing the things that are doing, I'm really happy that they're getting caught and called out. Yeah, and thrown the fuck out of there, right? Yeah, like you fuck up and say the wrong thing to a 17-year-old, I get it. But then the other side of it, if he is completely exonerated and cleared of everything,

this is going to follow him around for the rest of his career. Yeah, it's a big accusation. So, yeah, this show's gone there. on with the show on with the show listener feedback so a child molester today no I'm kidding

oh no fell up Jesus Christ it's not a laughing matter boys and girls oh man we're gonna have to talk about a deadler

and deadly that we'll get there it's just a movie everyone hey if you can't laugh at life what can you laugh at this week the podcast Spotlight Sean's

on the Super Podcast. Welcome back to another audio commentary of Fred Dirst Masterpiece. Oh, God. Yeah. Fantastic. Give me a break.

Ten. Worst film of last year. Who was it? It was hella good. No, two years ago, right? Or whenever it came out. It beat out Black Christmas for me, Philip. The movie's timeless.

Join your... Really quick. Speaking of Black Christmas. I just watched it again. and I like it. Why, dude? Get away from it. Garbage. It poisoned your mind.

Hot, wet, or warm garbage. Got nothing to do with the Black Christmas story, but I took it for what it was. I liked it. Oh, you're going to kill yourself one of these days because Black Christmas told you you're a terrible man. Anyway. Join your host, Super Marcy, and the terrible Australian bead your mind along with guest, Mike D. wait. Beastie boys?

I know, right? From a Splat House and the stream cast as they join forces from different continents to love and appreciate this film that consumes our lives. The fanatic was directed by Fred Durst

stars John Travolta as Moose and Devon Sawa as Hunter Dunbar. It makes me laugh when I say the name Hunter Dunbar at this point. It should. It's ridiculous. If you have never listened to a commentary, here's how it works.

You simply need to grab a copy of the film. Sync it up with the podcast audio with the film. And we'll tell you when to press start. It's that easy. I'm hearing John Travolta say Hunter Dunbar in my head. Hunter Dumme Bar. Remember that? Mr. Dunbar, Mr. Dumbar.

Mr. Dummy Bar. How can you hate this movie? It's great. More moose. You can listen to it while you watch the film or listen to it on its own. Yeah. It's like, you know, watching a movie with your buddies by yourself. So it works especially in pandemic times.

Yeah. Thanks to our buddy, Tim. I had to fucking suffer through the movie recently. So I just I just listened to the Super Podcast commentary on my way to work. And just listen for, you'll know it when it happens, but there'll be a couple of times where B. tries to say the word cunt, and every time he tries to say cunt, for what, magically,

you can't hear him. It cuts every time in the software, I guess. Something smells fishy. Hopefully it's not a cunt. See you next Tuesday. The fanatic commentary coming soon. Yep. Yes. Charles Means says,

yeah, not too surprised about what? Oh, regarding the news that Netflix already canceled the Irregulars. Charles Means says he's not too surprised. Brian, you watch everything. Did you watch that? I am really down on Netflix shows right now. I haven't even watched that new superhero one, Jupiter's Legacy. Yeah, I kind of wanted to watch that too.

I've heard nothing but bad things. Yeah, but Naz, we're talking about the Irregulars. Have you seen it? It's like a young Young person's kind of like Sherlock Holmes. It sounded interesting, but with Netflix, you just,

even if it's great, if they don't get those numbers that they want, it's one and done. Yeah, I'm far from young, so. I mean, unless you come out with, you know, another stranger things,

which. That's what, that's what they want. every show to be. That's why they keep canceling everything. That's not going to happen, though. Yeah. Stranger Things was like a once in, I don't want to say once in a lifetime thing, but it was just one of those cultural. Yeah, yeah, there you go. Yeah. When does that come out again? The next season. That Finn Wolfheart Kids came out and said he doesn't even think it's going to come out this year. Oh, wow. They'll all be like, they'll all have

gray hair by the time it comes out. I think Cobra Kai's season four will come out before Stranger Things For. As well as well it should. That's the hot hand right now. They're already done filming. Is it not coming out until next year or are they going to throw it out this year? Cobra Kai? Yeah. I hope this year and I hope

we get it this year and then Stranger Things 4. They do what they did with Cobra Kai season 3 on New Year's. That's what I'm hoping for. That's my number one show of the year. Cobur Kai? Yep. Yeah.

It was good. It's strong. Eagle for me. All righty. Regarding the green knight, Al Ramsewers says, looks interesting. Definitely check it out.

Yeah, we did the trailer for that one last time. It looks pretty fucking neat. I hope it's good. I think it's a Mandy. type of movie, Phil. Oh, shit. Watch that recently, too. Good one.

I need to re-watch that. I don't even remember it. Yeah, it's fucking weird. It gets better every time. It does. I confuse that one with the one with aliens. Willis Wonderland? No.

Oh, uh, color. Color out of space. Oh, yeah, yeah. Okay. That was hell of good. That was pretty cool. They're about to show the wife. or she wanted to watch, what was it,

mom and dad? Oh, that's hell of good, too. It is. Is he like the new, like, genre, like, king right now? I don't, I don't know what he is.

He turned into this. He is. He did, like, you know, a couple of big blockbusters, and then just a shit ton of awful fucking movies. and now he's gotten into a space that's so goddamn weird he became an icon again. I don't understand it at all or how it happened.

Pay your taxes, boys and girls. Yeah. It'd be like, yeah, if Wesley Snipes started doing movies or some shit, and then it was like, oh my God, everything that Wesley Snipes is in is amazing. He didn't have to pay. How did that happen? Wesley didn't have to pay taxes because he filmed his movies in other countries.

Didn't he go to jail for it, though? Yeah. They didn't believe that. Sorry. Uncle Sam always gets his. Oh, fuck. If I'm not here tomorrow, guys, I'm in jail because I didn't pay my taxes right. Let's not go there.

But let's see. We got Stephen Loblad. He says, if you ever make it to Santa Cruz, me and the wife would gladly meet you down there. That would be awesome. Yeah, for sure. We could all go, Santa Cruz

Santa Cruz Santa Cruz That place is a dump now Is it? All of California is it Get Lance to Reenact the muscled up

sax player You still believe Huh Yes It's it's not the same I mean it was It was junky when I was a kid And it just got worse

Is it the murder capital for real now? I don't know. Oh, that was... It's still cool to hang out. I wasn't swimming that dirty-ass water, but it's... It is what it is. Well, you're making it out to be pretty awesome, so let's check it out. It's not much.

It's just that one stretch of stuff. Hey, I've never been to Cali. I'd love to go. Same here. I think we need to set a Santa Cruz trip, guys. Yeah. Nass, I know you can get there. Brian, I don't get there. there. Alaska and California

right next to each other, right? On the map. Yeah, just like, walk across street. What a L.A. in L.A. area. I mean, there's more stuff like that down there. But... Yeah, you can see going saying, poppycock. I mean... The SETI of Dreams.

What was that movie with the doppelgangers? Us? Yeah, that, they cleaned up Santa Cruz to film that, but... Then they put the trash bag? Yeah, they put it. And then they remove the barriers with let everything. But I don't know.

It's not the same anymore. It's, I mean, it's cool that it's still there. And I think they opened it back up now. But it's, yeah, it's for the little guys. I mean, they'll enjoy it in the teenagers. But since I, the last time I was there, I'm just an old fart now. But, I mean, we did, how the kids are acting now, we did not act like that back then. so it's there's a good book

there's a big age gap but it's still cool I actually did an episode there I think it was a couple years ago when we started 31 days of horror for East Society I walked around

and did a Lost Boys episode kind of talked about what was filmed here what was filmed there where the opening scene was when they were in the carousel that's still there

I think I was on that episode I don't remember, Brian. We're on everything. I walked way over where Max's video store was, and now it's just a little antique shop. You took your son, right? Yeah. Yeah, I think I was on that episode.

It was what it was, but it was cool to record from there talking about Lost Boys. And Lost Boys is a 10 for whatever episode you guys did it on. Oh, yeah, for sure. It's a classic, man. All right, we got a regarding Catherine Hahn joining Knives Out to Kate Pollock says, Yes! I love her. Kate Hudson joined the cast now.

Oh, yeah? Who? Kate Hudson? Really? Okay. Where she been? She's been spending her money. Oh, boy.

She's okay, but I'm really developing a crush on Catherine Hahn lately. I don't know. For some reason, last couple of, maybe I just like the witch. costume or something. Oh, Agatha. Yeah. I like Tristan's bad moms or whatever that was. Oh, yes.

Oh, yes. Oh, yeah. Get a few shots in it. Yeah, that's the one I like. Sounds like a plan. She's funny. Well, Knives out. That ought to be awesome.

We got Matt Wood. Says, listening to the Tim Davis Patreon pick, I guess Lance didn't like Jaws the Revenge. That was one hell of a rant. Oh, could you tell? That's a 10-2. I agree.

It's a shit movie, but it's so bad. It's fun. Both Indians were good. Matt, I have not forgotten you. I just sent the finalized list to or the schedule to Lance, so I will send it

to you and get you on the show. Got to bring co-host, though. Oh, yeah. Have you you guys heard the new podcast? I haven't heard the new episode, but I've been listening. You have been listening.

Yeah, okay. I've listened to a couple episodes. They're fucking great, man. Yeah. Let me see if I get it. Eternal darkness of not so spotless minds. We could not get away with saying cunt as much as I'm. That's right.

Well, again, it's the UK, so it's a different culture. How are they going to do? We don't make any fucking money. That's right. Derek B I'm going to try it I'm going to butcher your name though Okay

Go for it Borges I can't do it Sure Urgeois Orge I don't know Anyway Jaws the Revenge is like a fever dream

Lance Lance You don't agree Well I'll tell you what man It's Michael Cain knows what's up He said I've never He's watched that movie.

I don't believe him. Oh, I'm sure he has. He kind of con, I like Michael Kane, but he comes across. He's watched everything he's in. Oh, yeah. No doubt. Oh, that's Sir Michael Kane. Sorry, I'll put some respect on it.

Sir Michael Kane, I believe you had watched Jaws the Revenge in the house that it paid for. It's classic. Matt again says, now we're on the fanatic, Lance, dude, you need to spark up another spliff. Way to harsh on that film. Again, it's a lot of fun. Well,

I like it. Tim Davis asked, Matt, what would you rate Jaws of Revenge? He says, I can't give it higher than a six out of ten. I've only watched it once. I'm sure it'll be a higher score next watch. Don't forget that I'm brutal with my source, so six is a good

score. Yeah, dude, Fix is not a bad score, and I'm pretty sure I gave it somewhere around there. I can't remember. I think I was higher than that. That is a bad score. It's a 10. Well, let's let's not forget. I told Tim to go from his heart, and his heart's at a different score.

So that's the one I accept. Did you guys see it in the theater? Did you all revenge? No. I was a small child. I saw the night it came out. That's how good it is. It was a little ridiculous, but it was fun.

Hey, that's a lot of rules. A little ridiculous, okay. It was awesome. Regarding Brian's return to the theater for Spiral, Matt Wood says hope it goes well, bro. It did. I didn't sit next to anybody. That's awesome. People that were in there from the most part I seen kept a mask on.

on. Before I went in, I seen that the crew was in there. They were actually cleaning, not making it look like they was like doing stuff, you know, moving their hands around, like they're wiping stuff, but nothing's touching anything. No, they were actually cleaning. And, yeah, great experience. It just, I don't know, it was weird, just not being in the theater that long. And then coming back, it was kind of, it was kind of, it. It added to the movie because... Oh, yeah. Maybe the movie wasn't as good as I made it out to be, but damn, it just felt good to be back in the theater. Yeah, it was a great experience. And mostly because of that, this is the first one we've seen in the theater since we started, or since, you know, the world ended in all. And we had, I went, the theater I went to, they upgraded since it reopened. Yeah, mine too.

Cushy recliner leather whatever they are of seats Yeah they were great Yeah So like I don't know Where your motherfuckers Got all the money for this

Since the movies have been closed down For a year But But I'll take more money Yeah I was about to say They tapped into that concession stand money Yeah

$18 for a small popcorn Yeah Now it's gonna be 25 I kept them afloat I always went in there I just bought popcorn I never went to the movies bought those big giant bags they were selling for 10 bucks.

I don't even know. Yeah, I've seen a lot of people that were like getting like takeout orders from movie theaters. My theaters were just ghost towns. Movie theater popcorn is the best. Oh, yeah, it is. What did you guys give that movie? I don't remember. I'm giving me a nine.

I gave it an eight. Nine. A nine? Yep. I think I gave it like a six and a half. 6.75? Always hard to tell with Nez, right? I think Lance, I think Lance you were around there, 6, 6.5.

Yeah. But we all kind of liked it. It was a pretty good movie. I loved it. I thought it was awesome. Makes you think about Forest Gump. That too. Kate Pollock says this will be my first cinema watch too.

Booking it next week when I get to see my mate. indoors for the first time. So awesome. Nice. Eddie Ramirez, good question. Says, seen Rath of Man yet? That was some good shit. I

not yet. I want to. I know. I want to see it so bad. I might... School's over and I got the next week off, so I might sneak it in this week. Brian, I'm going to watch it tonight if I

can find it. There. Is it a good one? Yeah, that's what I heard. We'll see if I'm too fucking old to figure it how to find it. You're never too old. So yeah, definitely excited about that. I'm sure we'll talk about it.

It's going to be a cool of the week at some point. Yeah, that's who directed in Lance? I'm not sure, man. Snatch. The English guy. Oh, was it? Guy Ritchie. Are you serious?

Yeah. I had no idea. Yeah. I had no idea. Guy Ritchie, Jason Saper. Revenge movie. Oh my God. Well, that fucking movie that great guy Ritchie directed last year was amazing.

Do you know what I'm talking about? Oh, the gentleman? Yes, the gentleman. The gentleman was phenomenal. Snake Eyes. It was in that movie. Dude, I didn't hate that King Arthur when he did. Snake Eyes.

I did. I did hate the King Arthur. When was that one with a fucking giant snake he was fighting or something like that in the castle? I turned it off when he started shadow boxing. Right. Was he wearing white kicks, Brian? He probably was. It definitely wasn't his best movie. But I didn't need it.

He's shadow boxing getting ready to fight the Mayans. Yeah. Oi. All right. Two chicks and horror flick say thank you so much for our further shares. Yeah. Anytime. If I can get anybody at least a couple listeners, then I'm doing what I set out to do.

Absolutely. Stephen Loblad says, as a garbage man, I will say wet garbage is worse than hot or warm garbage. That makes a lot of sense. Yeah. We had a warm garbage moment on the last one, and I was like, is that worse than hot garbage? I've never heard that term. When he said wet garbage, my mind went to that scene and, what is it, men at work with Charlie Sheen and Emilio Estabez. When they said, do we got to do the nasty?

And he was like, yeah. And the cuts of the scene of them, like, sweeping out all the dumpster juice out of the back of the truck. I was like, wet garbage has to be the worst. Yeah. I could speak on that for experience really quick. Some of you dads might be able to feel my pain. When my daughter was in elementary school, she was one of the little retainer kids. I know where you're going.

Oh, fuck. She put it on her tray and then just forgot about it and threw it away. So my wife was, she lost her retainer and it cost like a billion dollars. Oh, fuck. I had to go jump in there. And it was nacho cheese, chili day or something. Oh, fuck. Ouch.

It was, I threw my shoe. I threw everything I was wearing away. I was so fucking mad. And it did, I went through, I don't know how many bags. And it's always the very last bag you go through. And I found it. All the teachers that were walking by leaving, he goes, retainer? And I went, yeah.

And they go, yeah, you ain't the first one. And that's sure. That was, oh, fuck, that was fucking miserable. I have one of those stories, and then I have another story. My wife had a bottom gold grill that she took out. We were at the club drunk and threw it in the trash. And I had to go in the trash and look for it. You weren't leaving without looking through every piece of trash, were you?

No, it's like hundreds of dollars you just threw in the trash. you're a better man than me because I don't know. Yeah, I think I'd pay a couple hundred bucks to not go dig through trash. I don't know, man, that's a couple hundred bucks I couldn't, I wouldn't want to part with right now. I'd probably be digging too, man. Yeah, well, I had a few drinks in me, so. That numbs you up a little bit. Yeah, a few drinks feels the anger and then you just get through it.

Found it, though. Better have been a good night later. It was all good. Usually nights after the club are good nights. Yeah, that's true. Especially with a trash-covered grill. Should have said, here, put this bag in your mouth right now. Take a drink.

We'll disinfect it. All right, so wet garbage is bad. What are we doing? Fuck. Regarding Psycho Gorman, Michael Richard says Badass Movie, I loved it. What is that on? Shutter.

All right. Yeah. I still got to watch it, man. I haven't seen it. I just hear one talking about it. Hunky boys. Regarding oxygen. Cameron Sullivan says Any kind of phone booth slash buried film tends to be exciting.

I agree. But I didn't feel the anxiety, the tenseness, you know. I just, it didn't make me feel like, how do I put it? I felt like she was going to get out the situation. No, I felt like she was going to get out the situation. I didn't feel, when I see movies like buried or phone booth, like phone booth, you know what's going to happen. He steps out that phone booth. And then buried.

agree. No. And then buried, Ryan Reynolds being buried in a box under the ground, and he has a phone that's about to die and they can't find him. You feel the dread. You feel the

there's a bad outcome coming. I didn't feel that way about oxygen. And then when the twist happened, I was like, oh, I don't even care about you now. I don't care even less. You're not selling it. It's an aha, too, that directed it, right? Yeah, it's a beautifully made movie.

Was it? Yeah. I'll probably end up watching it. Yeah, it's on Netflix. You didn't really say much about the woman in the window, and I watched that. I didn't hate that, so. Yeah, I didn't hate it either. It's just you've seen that kind of movie before.

Especially if they're being sued for using the same plot of another film, right? I wouldn't be able to bring up any details. I don't even remember what the fuck happened. I watched it like three days ago. Really? You watched the whole movie? She kept looking out the window. You didn't see her looking out the window, Phil?

Yeah, I saw that. And evil Captain America was in it. Yeah, yeah. And new Captain America was in it, matter of fact of it. And that special needs kid that, well, let's not give away the ending, right? Who gives a fuck, right? Paperboy was in it. Oh, Paperboy was in it.

Dude, he's in everything lately. What movie is this? The woman in the window. Oh, okay. Yeah. It's got a ton of really awesome people. It's just a super forgettable. Paperboy and Tig Nataro.

I've seen both of them in like six movies in the last week. Yeah, they, I would have to say, they must have great agents. Mm-hmm. All right. Regarding Tim's Patreon picks, Kevin Ness says 10, 10 out of 10. What the F what Lance thinks. You're lost boys for life. Jesus Christ.

That was the fanatic and Jaws the Revenge. Yeah, the Lost Boys was a good movie. It's a strong nine, Nez. What? The greatest vampire movie ever made. Well, you gotta, like, it's up there. If Lance is throwing a nine at it, that's a good thing. That's like if we gave something a 15.

Yeah, he doesn't toss out, you know, tens like they're nothing, man. He's got like four tens. he has a whole bag of tens that he's not given out no vampire movie is better than lost boys I got I have a lot of favorite vampire you're right nothing is what would you go your second because I said near dark

I would probably go Dracula Prince of Darkness then near dark Nez come on dude you're you're missing the obvious one Dracula 2000 no with the phantom That's the movie that got him the role as a phantom.

All right. Darren Wilson says Lance Langford, I don't know if it helps with your issues with the Van Peebles character or not, but you didn't find him a believable Jamaican. But I think Jaws 4 takes place in the Bahamas. Oh! I just heard a mic drop. I just heard a mic drop over there at the psychosemanic podcast.

And you know what? I believe he's right. Yeah. He is 100%. He is 1,000% right. God damn it. So yes, you still are right, Lance. That is a bad Jamaican accent.

It's not a Jamaican accent. All right. I'll change my score. 0.25. B. Germain says, was it the fanatic? It was the fanatic, wasn't it?

I don't know. Probably the one that I gave a zero to. Oh, I got you, yeah. But it was. But I gave it a one. Oh, no. Alan Easterling says,

No, the fanatic is made of poop. So he knows what's up. and Al Ram Sour says Jaws the Revenge was the Nest game, right? I loved it. It was hard as my dog shit, though. Nest game? Oh, like Nintendo game? Is that what you're talking about? Sure. Okay, okay. Sure. All right, why not?

Right again, Al. Send us an email, dude. Explain it. On the show. Here you go. Marcy gave the fanatic a hundred out of him. that's why we love you Marcy There you go She also posted a hilarious reimagining Of the Forever Purge poster

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I will let you pick the movies for a future show at any amount, and for $5 or more a month, pick a commentary for a future bonus show, which is why we're doing the fanatic, it sounds like. Right? Is that happening? I don't know. I don't think we're going to be able to avoid it. Yeah, I'm sure.

And we have a brand new Patreon patron, some guy named Kevin Niz. Hey, Niz. You're a... Your show, dude. Thank you and be sure to get us. your picks. Hey, you should have been Nevin Dez or something.

I cannot wait for these picks. I got them already. Okay. We're going to totally different direction, but I got them all. Did you have Lance in mind when you made these picks? No. Good. Do you want to hear them?

Yeah, let's hear them. All right. Little darlings, that's on. Oh, wow. Paramount Plus, I think. Okay. Clueless. Little Darling's.

The Summer Camp thing, right? And mean girls. And mean girls. Oh, my God. Well, I missed the second one. Holy shit. Clueless. Clueless.

The fuck. Naz? I don't know what Little Darling's is. You guys haven't seen that? Lance, I know you've seen that. Oh, yeah. I saw it back in the day, man. What did I?

I don't even know what it is. You will. You will. Yep. It's on Paramount Plus. Yeah. Then Nez can say, after you watch it, Nez will say, you're welcome.

All right. And if you have a chance, please give us a five-star Apple podcast review. I'm pretty sure we still got some stuff to give away, right? Brian. Cycle Gorman, shining steelbook and Saw 4K Steelbook. He's up for grabs.

Good stuff, man. That's big money. Just go leave a review. You might get a free one. Yeah. And now, our featured attractions. It's the Year in Horror, 1986, Part 1. We're going to cover the Pulture Guys 2, which I haven't seen in fucking forever. And deadly friend, which they had no existed. Now you do.

Now I do. Uh, we'll start with Pulturegeist too. Uh, the Freeling family have a new house, but their troubles with supernatural forces don't seem to be over. Uh, director Brian Gibson, also known for What's Love Got to Do With It? And the Josephine Baker story. Oh, it sounds like a departure. A little. Uh, writers are Mark Victor and Michael, Grace, Grace, Grace, Grice.

Sure. I don't know. The only family member absent from the film is Dana, who, according to the script, is off at university. But a scene explaining her away, her absence was never filmed. Dominique Dunn was murdered by her boyfriend John Thomas Sweeney, who later changed his name to John Moura and disappeared shortly after the Poultergeist premiered. What the fuck? You know, that guy only got three years, or done three years. Really?

He got sentenced. Okay, this is even, this is ridiculous. Okay. He got sentenced, I believe, six or seven years, which is ridiculous on its own. Right. He only did six years in jail. He strangled her in her driveway and left her there. And he got, I believe, six and a half years and only did three.

Hold on. I've got him grabbing my notepad. What's his lawyer's name? Nope. Is I ever getting trouble? I have to look that one up. All right. for a bag of weed

you go to jail for like 20 years I know man we laugh we laugh about this but that's fucking sucks RIP Dominic Dunn

ultimately no mention is made of Dana in the final film or of her being in college it was decided by the filmmakers

to retire the character and not recast her out of respect for the deceased actress and her family the exorcism was performed by Will Sampson

who was a real-life shaman for several different groups before his death in 1987. All right, time out. There's no such thing as a shaman in Native American stuff. Yeah, set us straight, man. I had a lot of questions for you on this. No, man. I know some people might, oh, no, no, there isn't. I don't care what anyone says.

He was a medicine man. Right. He says it in the movie. He doesn't even say shaman. Yeah, exactly. That's what I was. That's the way I've always heard it. Yeah, so, I mean, yeah, he said it in the movie, but then when you read things on this, and they always say that.

There's no such thing. I don't care what anybody says, but I'm Native American, full blood, everyone, so before someone starts to try to question me. But that's my opinion again, but nah, man, that is bullshit. Bill Samson, we love you. Rest and peace. Continue. Yeah, died in 1987. Studio security was instructed to leave the set unlocked and unguarded so Samson could return in the middle of the night to perform the exorcism.

Is it an exorcism? No. He was just doing kind of more like a smudging to protect and let the spirits go where they need to go. Okay. That's what it was. It wasn't an exorcism or whatever the hell they say all the time. That was very poorly written trivia. Yeah.

Way to go IMD. Yeah. I'm a white guy. Well, but hey, I'm a white guy. I would have said medicine, man. Except I read it word for word. I mean, you just have to go off of the movie. He even said this is my medicine bag.

Yeah. He didn't say my shaman bag. Yeah, what gave it away? I feel like an exorcism is worse than the shaman thing. Yeah, that is. pretty bad exorcism. Yeah, like, how much juju can we make it sound like?

Right. I think they're just putting it more into layman's terms. Yeah. I think so, maybe. That's the reason why. It's kind of inexcusable, I think. All right. So, well, Nez, why don't you roll first? Pulture Guys 2. What do you think? I love this movie.

This one... I love the first one. I mean, that's amazing. I mean, was it directed by Toby Hooper or Steven Spielberg. I don't know. I wasn't there, but it's still an awesome movie. Right. I was excited when this came out, and I wasn't sure what to expect.

And out of these three, out of the three films, I mean, this one scared me a little bit more. Only because of Reverend King. That guy scares the hell out of me. He's a creepy old fuck. Speaking of him, I have him right next to me. in figure, little reaction figure form. But he was dying

when they were filming this. Yeah. Oh, wow. He didn't get to see it. A lot of deaths shortly after all these films, huh? Mm-hmm. Did the little girl die to? Later.

Before the... She filmed the third one, and she died before it was released. Okay. My wife was telling me about it. I was like, holy shit. Because her hair did look like it was thinning in this one or something.

I was like, what? She's a little. little girl. They had to go and reshoot some stuff at the end for the third one because she passed away. The curse, man. Yeah, there's a bunch of things. I've watched the E Entertainment

special or watched cursed films on Shutter. They talked about it. Is it cursed? I don't know. I mean, it was just life. I mean, the murder her being diagnosed for something that she didn't have.

I mean, she could have still been alive today if... If she hadn't done the poultry guys? No, if they were to diagnose her... Properly. What she had, yeah. They gave her, I guess they were treating her for something else, and it was something totally different. And that was for...

If in the third one, I know supposed to talk about the second one, but it made her face all puffy from, I guess, whatever medicine she was taken and that just yeah you can uh because i rewatched the third one and you can clearly see it in her face yeah um but this this film i mean i i loved what was going on in it i had no i had no idea that uh will sampson was going to be in in it i loved that they went that route how did he die he died a year later uh i think he had lung and heart transplant uh i thought it was stomach no uh cane is the one that had stomach cancer yeah Samson had some kind of transplant

and it was a very, very low expectation of coming through. So I think he died from complications from that. Man, it's a lot of weird coincidences, dude, we're having to specify which of the four or five people that died right after this movie was over. It's kind of weird. Definitely

definitely gives you the creeps a little bit. Tangina lived. Yeah, the movie was good I liked what was happening I mean the effects It's 1986 boys and girls man That was the best we had Dude the effects were awesome

Yeah they weren't bad I mean that's fucking awesome That last scene was a little goofy But you know Yeah That's what you're getting at Like the warlock type of graphics right It was all

It was all practical effects I mean you got to give that I mean that's awesome All the work to do did in it. As far as the underground scene, when they were under the house and all that, that was all in a big

set. And it looked good. I mean, it was what it was. The bad guy, I guess, in this, I mean, Reverend Kane, he scared this shit out of me, and he's still scary today. Yeah. I mean, that scene just creeps me out. Every time he was on the screen, it just

freaked me out. And I just, I don't know. It just, it just, it It doesn't bug me, but it just fucking scares me. Again, the figure I got, he's on the cover of Anthrax's album Among the Living. And it's, I just noticed that when that album first came out. And I was like, well, that's Reverend Kane. And there was a lot of times they were saying no, but then they finally kind of came out and said, yeah.

Really? Yeah. The first I heard that they have a documentary now going on. They just talked about this album. But, I mean, this whole movie was good. I loved what was going on. I liked how that the spirits that were

after her and the first one continued. So I thought that was really good. Tanjana, I liked her in the first movie. I love during this one. Will Samson, he was a really good character. He said a lot of good things. And from what I

understand, when they were doing this, of course he was reading the script and everything, but he kind of did his own thing. Like, well, I would have said it this way. and that's how he did. I mean, a lot of that, a lot of the things that he had said is stuff that I believe in as a native, a spiritual Native American. So that's why I was all on board with his character.

And, yeah, I mean, I thought the whole movie was good. I mean, it was more than as good as the first one, but it was a good continuation story. I mean, if you guys ever get to the third one, I enjoyed that one too, but I just thought it got a little wonk. in it. I mean, nothing against Heather O'Rourke. It was just well, they were going to of that, Reverend Kane went on in the third one, but he had

passed and they had to put makeup on somebody. They actually took a live cast of was it Julian Beck of him. That was the mask that they used. Oh, wow. It didn't look like him, but that's what I don't remember the third one too much.

That's the third one. but I mean this movie was good I mean it was it was a well-made film special effects everything in it was awesome uh hello O'Rourke and what's his nuts uh Robb or Oliver Robbins um he's gonna be a Texas

Framer I think but anyway um I thought he was good uh coach Craig T Nelson and Joe Beth Williams it took them a lot to get them back from what I understand because they were like, nah, they were one and done, but I guess they threw big money at him and they went, ah, all right. So that's why they came back. I guess they couldn't throw any more money to bring them back for the third one. But I mean, so far, huh? Yeah, but overall,

I really love this film. I mean, it's a good story. It's a good continuation of the Freedling family. And yeah, I was, I was happy that they didn't really go into, uh, what? Dana or just bringing that up or just recasting. So I thought that was a good way to just pay respect to her or just not bringing her into it. But the whole thing was good, man. I really enjoy this film. All right. Lance, what do you think?

Man, I'm going to, I'm going to use one of your quotes if you'll allow me. If you'll give me this one kindness, Naz, and just let me say, hella good. It's not as good as the first one, but it's pretty damn close for me. And as our buddy Pedro likes to say, nostalgia is a hell of a drug, but I've got,

I guess a little bit of a story with this one. I've seen it several times because I saw it again on HBO and stuff like that after it originally played in the theater, but I went to see the theater, and I had just, I mean, I date myself here now. I had just graduated high school. So this was like my end of my senior year.

Went and saw this movie with some friends, snuck a little bottle in there with us. After this movie, we went and found a neighborhood where they were building homes. So there were all these like abandoned houses that were being built. Snuck in there, brought another 12 pack in there

and just fucking said, okay, high school's over, onto our next phase. So of course that's going to have something to do with my interpretation of this movie. and the effects were really, really good. I mean, I thought that it was pretty, whatever that creature was that the worm turned into, ah, man.

That was terrifying. That was the stuff of fucking nightmares. And, yeah, Reverend Kane, I'll never forget that scene where the rain's following him around and he's standing there at the screen door. And Craig T. Nelson just almost opens that door. And Craig T. Nelson, I thought his acting was really good in this. because I was worried he was going to be just super fucking over-the-top goofy at first

because there was one scene where him and the Joe Beth Williams were kind of playful and I thought, oh, great, this is what we're in for. But when he's in that scene where he's drinking the tequila and the worm, that's pretty powerful stuff, man, because that's real fear right there. That shit, that's shit that really happens. And then I'm kind of like, it made me think, well, shit, that ties into the movie we're going to watch in a couple of weeks. the devil made me do it.

It's like at what point is somebody in control of themselves and not? And I thought he portrayed that really well. But yeah, no, I liked it. I got a Spielberg vibe big time. I wouldn't be surprised if he had something to do with this, although I'm sure it would have come out by now if he did. It was probably just more of an homage. But like some of the scenes with the chainsaw coming after the car

and them going out the driveway real fast and the car's all fucked up. But I did, Nez, I had some, I did have questions for you, man. You kind of addressed him, but Will Sampson's character? I mean, do you think he was,

he was true? Or, I mean, was, other than that horrible description, which has nothing to do with anything covered in the film, do you think they handled it well? Yeah, as speaking for,

for myself, I mean, I thought he did a really good job because, like I said, he, he said a lot of good things that, that I believe in.

And he was, I mean, because when I think one of the reasons he took the part is because he told him, look, I want to change some things. And because whoever wrote the story, he read it and respectfully said, okay, I would have said it this way and that way. So it was good that they let him take his character and make it true instead of just typical Hollywood stereotype bullshit that they have for Native Americans. So that's what I really loved. And he really changed the story. And I think that was probably the main reason I really love this because he was in it. And he was really just straightforward.

And he meant what he was saying in it. So it was good to put that type of story because there's a lot of this and that being dealing with Native American spiritual stuff. And it's a lot of stuff I'm not supposed to talk about. But what I'm talking about, I can. but I mean I thought he did he portrayed his character really good and I'm glad that they

let him do what he had to do to change it because I know some directors nope this is how you're going to do it this is the way I wrote it don't change it and I mean it maybe if it could have came to that he probably went when you know what then I'm I'm not on board and they probably would have got

someone else that had just been a all right I'll do whatever you say just to get the check but I don't know I mean, I respect him for what he had done with the role and everything in it. Especially that there's another movie he was in, that movie, Orca, it came out in 77. Oh, yeah, the killer whale movie. He's supposedly more deadly than Jaws, right? I love that movie, but he, same thing.

They let him freely say stuff in that as well, because there was a lot of good things he was saying in that. dealing with the killer whales and everything. Seems like a very spiritual dude. Yeah, he is. I wish he was still with us today. But, I mean, that's why, I mean, I loved what was going on in this. Sitting, what was I? 15 when I saw this.

Sitting there watching it with my friends. And I already know who Will Sampson was. But so I was really good. And I liked what he was saying because it was a lot of the things that I was taught. growing up. So that's why I was totally on board with his character. I'm glad he didn't just read what was written. And because it would have just made us look bad.

And it was cool the way he did it. Like everything that he said was very spiritual and kind of on point and he had this wisdom about him. And so I thought that was pretty cool. Yeah, he wasn't like overboard. I mean, there's some actors, native actors out there that really go overboard with characters. Some natives, say, trying to be

more native than the rest of us, but he wasn't. I mean, I never met the man, but from what I understand that, that's the type of guy he was in real life and in person. But, yeah, I mean, I just really

love what he did with his character. And the thing he did at the end with the truck, or no, what was it, not the truck, the car. Oh, yeah. When he was saying, yeah. Yeah, I've seen that before. I was like, whoa.

It was cool that they put that in the movie. I was like, wow. So that's why I was really. You got to pay the man. He saved your fucking life. Yeah. I was, I was, I was with something. I was like, oh, man, he just said that so he can get a free ride.

I said, no, I mean, that was a lot of natives that, that saw that. They all laugh at that part because they knew the truth in it. Yeah, dude. I haven't watched this since I was a kid and I didn't really remember it with the exception of a few scenes that, you know, it get burned into your brain like the worm and the tequila and all that.

But, man, this was a fucking great movie. I loved it. Like, numerous... A lot of times I'm watching some old movie, and I'm doing shit around the house, and it's kind of hard to pay attention to it fully. And this one, every scene that popped up,

it just grabbed me and made me stop doing what I was doing. My wife stopped talking to me. She was watching it. It grabbed your attention, and it just pulls it in. I think I like this one better than the first one. I was very impressed. Damn, that's strong words, man.

Yeah. And I love the, I love the medicine man aspect that came in. I always thought, see, and I know that, you know, there's a whole lot of talk about stereotypical Native American shit in movies, and I think a lot of that happened in the Old West, in the 70s, and some shit like that. But like when I was growing up watching movies, I always thought they were cool as hell. Like, to the point to where I know that there's some Indian in my family, I don't know if I am or not. I haven't done the test, but I was always really

excited about that when I was a kid because my dad told me that. So I don't know how true it is. Don't do those tests, man. Just talk to your family. Yeah. You get a better idea that way. But, yeah. I love the fucking movie, man.

I love the alternate dimension of the spirit realm and all of that stuff. And sort of leads me into the whole alien thing, you know? because that's sort of how I've heard aliens described as well in a different realm that's still here. So who knows, man, some of that shit could be real. Speaking of aliens and Native Americans, there is a strong bond in that. I know some Native Americans don't think so, but I believe in all that as well. and it's true. I mean, I think from what I was told, I've never,

when I've seen things in the sky that I couldn't explain, was it aliens? I don't know. I don't want to say it wasn't. I'm not going to say it wasn't. Probably. There is a strong bond between whatever's out there. That's not from this earth with Native Americans,

because there's a lot of different creation stories dealing with that, talking about the sky people. So, I mean, it's weird, dude. Yeah, dude, I know you're really deep into that. There was a book that I saw. I know you would enjoy it. I cannot remember the title of it. If I remember or see it again, dude, I'll let you know.

It's crazy stuff, man, but it's all too true. I know somebody even probably laughing at me, but, hey. Oh, no, dude. To each zone everyone. Especially if it's like a Native American alien thing, I totally want to read that. Yeah. I just got a book on the Ananaki Anyway

So yeah I'm definitely happy with Paltry Eyes too I'm glad that we watched this one I didn't realize that I would like it so much Nez what's your score on it What about Brian? That's what I was going to say Oh my goodness I'm sorry

Yeah I'm still here now Brian's going to give it a one I had it in my mind that I was going to ask you first and then we got all switched around. My bad. I'm still part of the network. I'm here. You are the network.

Let me by first saying, Heather O'Rourke, I'm going to give her roses. I'm going to give her flowers. She was one of those kids in my life in movies because I rewatched the franchise over and over

and she was, you know, around the same age as me. and it was just crazy, you know, finding out, you know, someone close to that age to you, you know, died. And I just want to pay my respects to her. With that being said, this movie, I, it's up there. It's really fucking up there with the first one with me.

The first one was a little bit more lighthearted, I would say. A little, I don't know. Yeah, compared to this one. Spielbergian, right? Yeah, compared to this one. I mean, there's so many scenes in here that terrified me as a child. And, you know, we already talked about the creature that came out at a coach after he drunk the worm. Yeah.

There's a transformation that was bad. Terrified the shit out of me. And then it's crawling away and it has no legs and it just turns at them and it does that smile. Yeah. I was like, oh, man. That freaked me out watching it today. I loved Taylor, Will Sampson's character. You know, he, he was there to help them, but the way he helped them, he gave them the tools to help themselves.

And I even love the scene where Robbie's being attacked by his braces and they're yelling for him to come help and he's not. And then they come and coaches, I keep calling him coach, but he's coach. He's like yelling at him and he's just straight up. like I was protecting her. They don't want you. They don't care about you. They weren't her. And I just, I loved everything about this movie.

The, the Reverend Kane, scared me as a kid, walking up, singing his damn songs, and you are going to die. I'm like, oh, my gosh. And then to come to find out that he was sick, and that that's how he really looked at the time. I was just like, oh, man. I was thinking he was a really good actor. Like, while I was watching him today, I was like, damn, he is creepy as fuck. That dude is a good actor.

I believe he passed away four months after they were done filming. Jeez. That's dedication, man. Yeah. I loved everybody coming back. I understand Dominique Dunn, you know, the situation. And I, as a kid, I always took it as she went and did. her own thing because the way she played that character as in the first one of being so terrified

of everything. Right. That she just wanted to be somewhere else. That's how I took it as a kid. As a kid, I didn't understand that, you know, in the real life, the actress was murdered. I just was like, you know, she was like, fuck this. There's too much going on, which the whole family felt that because they're not even allowed to own a TV and they're living at Grandma's house and loved every.

thing. Love the introduction of them on the mother's side being clairvoyance and having abilities. I love that whole aspect and the reason why they

Kane wants her because they believe she can take them to the light. Oh, that makes sense. Yeah, which they play off more in the third one. But yeah, love everything about this movie. I like that grandma brought her back. Yes.

That was fucking... I love that when grandma passed, she knew about it, came, gave her grandma a kiss, went back to bed, and then her grandma called her on the phone. Just say, you know, be good to your parents, be a good kid. It's a lot of nice moments in this movie. Makes you think a little more. All right. My bad. So, Nez, what's your score on this one?

Man, I give the first one to 10, but... this one I'd give it a nine I mean I love it nice but it wasn't a 10 like the first film I mean it's it's an amazing movie I'm for for coming out in 1986

um yes the 80s is when everyone was throwing sequels at us left and right but um it was a good sequel because sometimes not every sequel is good so most of them but it was it was a good story, a good continuation story.

And I was glad that they brought the family back. But I still enjoy the third one. I mean, but it was just Heather O'Rourke in that one. I don't know if I've ever seen that third one. It's Tom Scarrard and

Nancy Ann. Laura Flynn Boyle. Is that the one that's die hard with a poltergeist? Yes. Fuck that shit, dude. The Hancock building? I like that.

Did you? Maybe I need to rewatch it. If you rewatch it as a trilogy, you'll enjoy it more. It does have its problems, but like Nez said, you know, I also like it too.

I like the effects they were doing with all the mirrors. Yes. It was goofy, yes. But, I mean, it was what it was. I think mainly because at the end of that film, they show in memory

or dedicated to Hillary O'Rourke. And I remember sitting in the theater going, oh, and even watching it now, the director, if you watch that cursed films on Shutter, when the director talks about her from the third one, he had such a special bond. It was just sad. I remember sitting and watching that crying. And I was like, oh, my God. But, yeah, I mean, again, it's goofy and everything. The effects aren't the greatest, but it's- And Gina comes back. Yeah. It is what it is. They continue to do that thing throughout the movies where they're looking around and they don't see her until they, like, look down. They're like, oh, Zelda. That bad again.

She is very short. All right. Lance, what do you think? Like I say, I don't think it's quite as good as the first one. God damn, that was our first. show, wasn't it, that we did Polter Guys. I cannot remember The fucking darkness.

Oh, man. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah, from like, oh, that was a great way to start the show, wasn't it? Great way to start the podcast. We was starting out high, and then we finished low. Have you guys watched that movie? Do you watch it?

I kind of feel like I don't need to. Look, rewatched it? Yeah. The darkness? Yeah. Are you fucking? kidding us or what? Because that was, that was,

uh, Hollywood's take on Native Americans and it was bullshit. Oh, yeah, that's right. I was wait for a hell of good. I'm like,

what the fuck? No, I was sitting in a theater. It was just, that was, that's Hollywood. Painful. That was the,

no Native American, uh, they didn't ask us. It just, obviously, took what they did and did it. Nothing against. having bacon. I love the baking.

I know, man. And I just rewatch tremors, and he's so fucking good in that. Maybe the guy that did, who wrote the synopsis and the trivia for this on I&B, wrote that movie. That movie was fucking, that was hot garbage. Did they do it?

Exorcism? It was wet garbage. Hot wet garbage. Yeah. Ouch. Yeah. I do remember sitting in the theater watching it, and I'm like, fuck, this is how we're going to start our show. That's right. That was kind of funny, wasn't it?

Hell can be winners. All right. Back to Poulter guys, too. 8.75. 8.75. Okay, I was going to ask you if you already. Okay. I'm going to go 9.5, man. Damn. Yeah, dude. This movie was fucking great. Like, I want to watch it again right now.

We're getting near the Spiderverse here, guys. I got to watch Army the Dead. I'm excited about that one. Oh, yes, you do. Yes, you do. Brian, what do you think? I'm going to come in right behind you, pause, and give this a nine and a half also. All right. Very good.

I think we liked it. Yeah, dude, definitely a great fucking movie. I cannot believe how much I enjoyed it. I was very excited. And now to the next one. On to the next one. A deadly friend. I was like, what the fuck is that?

Hey, it's West Craven. It's got to be there. B, B, B, B, B.A. was in it. Yeah, BB8. I think a couple of people got some ideas from this one. I know I was looking for Daisy Ridley to show up, but I guess it was too early. She probably wasn't even born yet. Parents were probably little kids.

Right. After his friend is killed by her abusive father, the new kid in town attempts to save her by implanting robotic microchips into her brain. I don't think that's a fair representation. of the plot of the story. But they get there. Yeah. Man.

Yeah. Anyway, director is West Craven, who all our listeners know. Writer is Bruce Joel Rubin, also known for Jacob's Ladder and Ghost. Wow. Yeah. Huh.

He's obviously, just like Wes Craven was just cutting his teeth on this one. Christy Swanson says, that she had probably thrown the basketball over a hundred times during the reshoot of the film virus death scene, which was the best in the movie. That scene

is amazing. At Ann Ramsey? Good Lord. Mama Fetley. She can take it. She'll be all right. Throw mama from the train. That was the first thing I thought of to. Yes.

West Craven kept at me to throw it as hard as I could to indicate great speed. I must have tossed that ball a hundred times. My arm sure felt like I did. Swanson also said an interview with Maxim Magazine in May 2000 that the fake head was stuffed with actual cow brains

that the production crew picked up from a butcher shop. So, there's that. The voice of BB, the robot, was provided was provided by Charles Fleischer, who had

previously appeared in West Craven's earlier film A Nightmare in Elm Street, and who would go on to voice Roger Rabbit, and who framed Roger Rabbit? Wow, who had I thought? Okay. I knew that name sounded familiar. All right. So, Brian will start with you since I skipped you last time. What did you think about a deadly friend? I kind of like it.

I kind of like it. Yeah. It's kind of all over the place because at first it's real lighthearted. I mean, it starts out something else, like with the guy breaking into the van. And the robot grabs him by the throat and then the music kind of comes in, kicks in. And you think it's going to be something else. And then we get into this introduction to the main characters and it turns into kind of an evil short circuit. Yeah.

then all of a sudden it's like a lighthearted movie and then you get introductions to christie swanson and her didler father who is nasty and gross the entire even looks nasty and gross he's like always sweaty and drunk and what's sad is everybody knows what's going on yeah nobody does anything so sad and then um i like the whole aspect of b b b b and and you got the super smart kid. I mean, he's not even, he meets a friend and he thinks he's going to be in high school with him. But no, he's in medical school because he's way above everybody and helping out with, you know, stuff about the brain. And he's able to figure out how, how the brain works if I do this and do that. And you kind of know where the movie's going to go after that. And there's some, there's some nice practical effects. in here. The basketball

scene is fucking amazing. I might have rewound it a few times. It was pretty awesome. The look of the father when his head comes out of the fire. Yeah, that's pretty good. I thought that was pretty good. Also the scene where he fucking comes out the damn mattress in that kid's dream dream scene.

Yeah. That was kind of gave me some nightmare on Elm Street vibes right there. Yeah, big on the dream scenes, huh? Yeah, the only thing I didn't... The only thing I didn't really go with me as good is like, okay, she gets BB's chip inserted into a brain. Right? And I get...

But how? I don't ask, right? Science, like that's. It's an early. Elon Musk, dude. That's exactly what he's doing. So this kid was ahead of his time then? Yes.

Elon's going to be the end of us. Probably. Oh, it must we trust. In must we trust, guys. Come on. Okay. I get that, you know, it's her consciousness and the chip that's BB kind of fighting back and forth on who to be the person in the body. But how is she seeing the way the robot sees?

she still has regular eyes and stuff like that I didn't understand I didn't understand how she had super strength and she walks around with her hands like Spock yeah I was gonna say she's doing the Vulcan salute everywhere because she had her hands were claws like BB I finally figured that out about about fucking 80% into the movie

you didn't like it when she was running at the sheriff with the claw hands slow mo Well, it took, I mean, I do like the pacing of it, but it took like half the movie before you even got into her being the monster, right? Yeah, but you had to set up the fucking, the didler father, the fucking, I'm assuming that guy's in high school, the bully, the guy, the street tough on the motorcycle. That looked like he was fucking 35 years old. That was Scott Crawford from the Friday Nightmares podcast. I understand he was a motorcycle.

like a leather jacket wearing rebel back in the high school days for his prom. So that must have been him. And probably a bully. Shout out to the smoke show. But yeah, I had fun with it. I took it for what it was worth. You know, I mean, he's trying to fucking bring his friend back

with a robot chip on her brain. I mean, you can't really take a deep dive into a scenario like that. What do you attach the chip to? You just fucking put it into the. the brain and put a little gum around it? Or what do you do? Well, you saw in the earlier scene, he was able to hit certain nerves of the brain while it was dead to move the limbs.

So he did science, Lance. Attached some wires to it or something, huh? He did science. Okay, you explained it. I buy it now. Thanks, Brian. He had tools and instruments. Are you a science to Nair, Lance?

He had the tools and the talent. I believe. I believe. I believe, Brian. I believe it. And with the help of his friend's father's set of keys, he had the facility. So it had to work, and it did until she started murdering everybody. Well, yeah, that's a problem.

Put a half an ounce of some kind of sleeping agent in his mom's coffee. Yeah. Yeah, that was a little weird. The first time I saw this, I thought he killed his mom. It looked that way, didn't it? I thought it was cocaine at first. I thought maybe he was putting it in his coffee so he could stay awake night and do the surgery or whatever?

Of course you did. But overall, I had fun. Knowing that this came from West Craven, and this was way different than anything he's done before, I think that just kind of added to the fun, because if you go back to listen to 31 days over on

E-Society, there's a certain West Craven film that I'm not too fond of. Which, a lot of people consider it as classic. Right. So, I enjoyed this.

Before or after this one? That one had to have been before this one. So I enjoyed this one a lot more. All right. Nez, what did you think? I fucking love this movie. Of course. Ten, it's going to be a 10.

It looked good. That movie was before this one. What movie is it now? Deadly blessing. Oh, okay. He did that one right before he did Swamp Thing. Awesome movie. I don't care what anyone says.

But it did goofy. Shout out to Adrian Barbo. Yeah. It was what it was. I mean, of course, the practical effects was awesome. It was awesome. Everything. I was never really a Christy Swanson fan.

but yeah she is the original Buffy but I mean it was what it was I mean Albert from Little House on the Prairie

he's a scientist he's a scientist her dad yeah Harry Pringle that was he was in tremors so but I mean the movie was

yeah the second time we mentioned tremors tonight. The movie the movie was goofy for what it was. I mean, there's,

but it's the 80s, mid-80s, everyone, you just got to accept it. But if it wasn't for all the, the practical effects, I mean,

I would have just, this movie's dumb, but it was just a good movie. I mean, look at that awesome theme music that popped up at the end credits for BB. Bibi,

Bibi, B, B, B, B, B. I mean, I would be, I mean. I mean, this movie, I mean, it's, it screams 80s. I mean, everything about it. Oh, okay.

That's why I love it. I mean, just everything, the clothing, the hair, the music, I mean, just everything they did in it. I mean, Matthew, whatever I ever say, his last name, Albert from Little House, I don't even remember anything else he's been in. I mean, movie-wise. I mean, I know he did some TV shows, but this one. I mean, it was what it was. I mean, yeah, him being able to just put in the chip into her brain and then all hell breaks loose. I got a question at the end.

The very, very ending, when Albert goes to find her again, Albert, I'm sorry, Paul. I think I know where you're going here. This is a Friday the 13th? Yeah, was that real or was that a dream? I would love to think that was a dream and somehow she became. fucking robotic underneath the skin. Yeah. Because I was going,

hey, wait a minute. What did that happen? I'm going to assume it was a, it was a dream because that would have made the third dream sequence in the fucking movie. No shit. The one that scared me is when a... Maybe the whole movie was a dream. Maybe it was a dream within a dream.

By your tone, Lance, I don't think you like dreams. I don't care. I definitely don't care for dream sequences, dude. That took me out a little bit. It always does. almost always. How do you feel about flashbacks? It's okay.

I mean, if it helps tell the story, the story doesn't necessarily have to be linear. I just don't like the fake out. You know what I mean? Like something really crazy starts happening, and then it's like, okay, that's a little too crazy. I think we're in a dream sequence. Give me flashbacks as long as somebody goes,

do, do, do, do, do, do, no. That's right. Well, yeah, that's true, because dream sequences are almost always fakeouts. which does seem kind of cheap now that you think about it. That's my only problem with it. Yeah. I mean, overall, I mean, it was or what?

Everybody in it, I mean, yeah, I mean, they did what they were supposed to do and they did it. I think the only one really, Christy Swanson, she's still kind of in the spotlight, but I mean, everyone else, I haven't seen it. Yeah, I haven't seen much of anyone else. I know she was the last thing I saw her was dancing with the stars when when I guess she was seeing her I guess she was seeing her

partner the dancer and let's just say he choked her in the shower and not with his hands but but I mean the movie was like how oh he came out and said it

he was on Howard Stern and yeah she's a generous girlfriend she's a generous girlfriend I mean but I mean it was cool I'm looking this up by the way go ahead it was cool I like the movie I mean this this was one

I mean we went and seen and were like okay cool another West Craven Horror movie. So we're like, all right, let's go. And then we just laughed through the whole movie. But, I mean, it was cool. It just reminds me of a good time. But rewatching it again, I mean, I just had nothing but a big smile on my face every time. Every time someone got killed and just as the movie went on, I just thought it was a good, it was a good movie, a good 86

film. But I love it. I wish we would get a a U.S. version of it on Blu-ray, because the only one I know is that one that's in Spain. But, yeah, Mrs. Fitelli, Mama Fitelli, she's always that same character. She's always the bitchy neighbor,

grumpy old lady. So, but she was good. And, yeah, the basketball scene, I mean, that's the scene that everyone talks about. But, I mean, there was other good kills in this. I loved it when she threw. Was it Tom? Was that his name?

He was either Tom Carl, one of them. When she threw him on the police car, I thought that was cool. That was funny. Her dad, the little pervert guy. I kind of didn't like how she got slapped and fell down the stairs. I don't know. That wasn't believable. A little disturbing, right?

Yeah, but, I mean, because what? She didn't die. They said she was going to, well, she was going to die. And they were going to take her off of life support. She was burning dead. Yeah. So, but. You know, like when she, at the end, when she fell down the stairs and she was twitching?

They didn't sell it to you? No. I wish they would have showed Albert, Albert, Paul, I wish they would have showed him at least show how he put the chip in. I mean, a little more. But, I mean, it was. the only thing that really bugged me about this film, I mean, I love it from

beginning to end, but her vision of everyone, how it was all pixelated, like how robots looks. What was the reason for that? She didn't have robotic eyes. Exactly. But you just got to take it for what it was. It was goofy. I did like

the design of BB when it was just the yellow. Kind of reminded me of one of those robots and what hell is that one? Robots. Mr. Science Theater? 3000 or whatever. Oh, yeah. It kind of reminded me of that.

A little bit of bumblebee. Yeah, that's it. That's right. But, BB was a cool little character. I mean, the regular robot BB and once it got in Samantha, but, I mean, the movie was what it is.

It's a good time. I mean, just sit there and watch it with your friends. I mean, light one up, power, power a few bruise and just enjoy it for what it is. I mean, it's just 80s, cheese, and I love it. I like how all the robots from like the 80s movies and stuff, like they can do robotic things and have a totally sentient mind of their own,

but they can't talk. Yeah, so it's maybe. Yeah, can't robot talk to the Terminator. Well, yeah, I guess so. And they sounded goofy, right? I mean, we got, we talk to computers all fucking day right now. Our robots talk and they don't walk around yet. maybe they do

they deliver your food I've seen those things a robot that delivers your food yeah I saw one in Berkeley one time I didn't know what it was I thought somebody was walking behind it with a remote control and I was like what is that am I saying all those are things that deliver food

I was like what yeah they're out there so get ready Sky Nets about to take over everyone it's how they get you out the house and when you come get your food they take you out we've got like every single end of the world scenario that could possibly happen is they're all converging yep here we go

um yeah i uh last did you i didn't ask you yet well no you know what i don't have anything to really add i mean i you guys have pretty much said at all i'm i'm with brian i i liked it a hell of a lot more than i probably should have for the quality of the script and everything but fuck it was a fun movie. I enjoyed it. Wow. That surprises me a little bit. I figured you'd a shit all over this one. No, I had fun. I was

prepared. Might be nostalgia. Remember. I was feeling my oats in those years. I was lacing my gloves up. Yeah, this is the first time I've seen this one. Super generic

name of the movie. I like it. I've read it 27 times. I still can't remember what the fucking called. But it was kind of fun. I liked the whole short circuit thing they had going on in the beginning. That was kind of cool.

I was expecting something because I didn't know anything about it. And so I was expecting something to happen with that. I was like, oh, okay, well, it's going to be like an evil robot movie, right? And then he seems like kind of a cool robot, except when douchebags are around. And then he goes crazy. And I'm like, all right, robot reviews. binge movie. I can deal with that. He had murderous, BB had murderous

tendencies. Yes, he did. Because he wanted to squish that guy's nuts. But, the guy kind of had, you know, he kind of had it coming. Yeah, true. I mean, when a 35-year-old high school student is trying to fight your friend.

Like, play stupid games, win stupid prizes, right? But then it went into the putting the chip in the brain thing, it sort of took a weird left turn. I kind of like the story, though. I think it was fun.

I thought they could have, I thought they should have done more with her as the, like, robot thing. Or maybe something different. Like, that piece of the movie seems like it should have been, been rewritten.

Except the smashing the head with the basketball was the funniest fucking kill I've ever seen in my life. That shit was. Like, she's still walking around with no head. Jesus gross. Blood squirting out everywhere. It was fantastic. It made me laugh so hard.

My 10-year-old was in there watching. And we both just died laughing. Your 10-year-old didn't think it was real? No. No. At the end of the movie, he was like, Dad, I was kind of a bad movie.

I was like, yeah, you're kind of right. But it was fun. So there's that. This goes in the Jaws the Revenge kind of category for me, I guess. I can't. Okay. So, yeah, I didn't hate it as much as I thought I was going to. Mostly because of that basketball kill, that saved the movie.

Oh, I'd saved the whole movie, didn't it? All right. What's your score on this one? I think I'm going to go seven and a half. The story is what it is, but I just, I had a lot of fun with the characters with the BB. Awesome ending song. But we can't play music no more.

The practical effects to some of the kills I thought were pretty fucking good. the basketball scene when it happens. I throw my hands in the air and say yes. Every time I see it. I throw my hands up. But I will sell the weakest kill was the bully

because he got thrown on the windshield of a car somehow. Oh yeah. He got off easy, didn't he? That was funny. I like that scene. I mean, it looked funny the way he left when she threw him because clearly that wasn't her throwing him. But just the fact he landed

on a windshield and he was dead. I just, uh, and I wanted to see something. I wanted to see something happen to the, to the, the one friend who went, obviously snitched on him. Yeah. I want to see, I can't take this anymore. For the dad.

Yeah. Like they should have gone more graphic on that one. Yeah, the next snap and you have set his head on fire. Maybe he's set his head on fire while he's alive. Would have been a lot better, but there you go. But he's a didler and he got what he deserved. So on that, matter of fact, I'm going to give it a 7.7.5.

Oh, man. You talked yourself into it. Yeah. 7.5. All right. Kevin, what did you think? Oh, this one, this is a 10, man. I love it.

I love it. I mean, I'm sitting there watching all the kill scenes. I forgot to talk about the scene when Mama threw it from the train killed BB with a double barrel shotgun. Oh, yeah. That's right. I love that how

Albert and some Albert, I mean, Paul and Samantha, I mean, just the awesome acting of Paul just like crying, screaming. I felt bad when they when that fucking robot got shot.

Yeah. I mean, you got to feel for. I mean, he was a struggling little scientist that created a cool little robot. And that's what I knew. That bitch is dead. I like that. I like that Mama Fertelli's so crazy that everybody just accepts it. Like the paper boy, even though she's got a shotgun right there, the paper boy.

Just to remind you, paydays tomorrow and I'll be around. Right. Is it just like the norm for grump? neighbors to have double-barrow shotguns? I mean, that's... In the 80s, yes. Yeah, she's a little exceptional. She's like the...

God damn it. Never mind. Keep going. I forgot the name of everything I was going to say. She has the loudest home alarm system ever. Yeah. For, I don't know why. I didn't see anything. Yeah, she's paranoid, Brian.

Of what? Everything, everybody. That's why she keeps a big fucking gate around her house. Boo Radley. What do you should do about the robots coming? Robot uprising. I mean, but the movie, again, the movie, it is what it is. It's just a good 80s, West Craven.

Speaking on that, why could he just rebuild Beebe? That's what I was waiting on. If he's so smart. That's what he was going to do. Well, he probably was, but then Samantha was in the hospital. and he was He wanted to choke her in the shower

They did They did share that kiss on Thanksgiving But I mean Young scientists In love, man Love will make you do crazy things boys and girls Like Choke somebody with no hands

I I love this movie all right so uh lance what do you think seven nice wow dude yeah this is crazy i'm gonna give it i'll give it a six and a half i think that's the same score i gave joss the revenge

no that's funny i didn't give jose the revenge seven no no you didn't uh but it and i like this one a lot of it is ridiculous it's still a lot of fun though it's definitely 80s this is a just you really want some throwback 80s retro shit that's this go watch it all right so I guess we all recommend it what shows do we have coming up

guys let's see action returns we still got to do the Tom Clancy without remorse film on Amazon Prime you guys are not doing the Jason written by Taylor Sheridan

and Brian yeah Taylor Sheridan. And I got to see. I got to see what my schedule it is to get to the theater. Yeah. THR presents stream fiends. We're doing 1992's Gladiator, the underground boxing movie with...

Oh, not... Okay. I thought you about the... Not that one. Okay. The one with Cuba Gooding Jr. and... What was it? Brian Dennegey.

Faggly remember that. Yeah, me too. that guy from a few good men yeah that guy yeah tune in to hear my thoughts on his acting and our next

shit I probably should have pulled up our next bonus episode T-HR ESP bonus episode The Curse of the Blind Dead That's gonna be great

And you can hear The latest episode of the wrestling returns right now. Yes, you can. All right, as always, we want to think... Zombies showed up. Zombies showed up. Fucking zombies showed up.

I'll just leave it there. Okay. I guess we're intrigued. Philip, any idea? No, man, I have no idea, but I definitely am willing to watch it now. Apparently there's a couple of wrestlers that are dead now because fucking zombies showed up.

What? Wow. Okay. WWE pay-per-view sponsored by Army of the Dead. That's what I was about to say. Okay. Now it all comes together. All right.

And I'll just put it this way. Batista had came out and said he had nothing to do with this storyline. Oh, I'm sure. Nothing. All right. I don't watch wrestling, but I might listen to the podcast on that one. Or maybe I will watch it.

Fuck. Or do I have to get the WWE network? Everything's out there. I'll give you a little taste. Look in the messages. Okay. Look at it right now. What we got?

All right. Oh, come on, man. That looks so fucking cheesy. Is Zombie Elvis? Really? Wow. He's battling the Miz. All right.

Well, guys, it's been a good one. It went a little longer than I thought, but I knew a deadly friend was going to generate some talk. So, as always, we want to thank you guys for all listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can reach us at thehorror returns at gmail.com. We're out there.

So go look for us. But, Philip, where are we out on getting the website, now that we own the domain name. I'll get on it. We'll see if we get that straightened out. We've got a few things that we're working on in the pipe. Yeah, and we were supposed to do the animated videos and sit. What happened to that?

Oh, Philip, I'll shoot you this video from YouTube. Hentai? No, not that video. A YouTube creator posted a video last night of something he thought was disturbing that can happen to you as a content. creator. Uh-oh. He had a video that was flagged years ago.

Uh-huh. And they made it, they made it so you couldn't watch it. And he noticed it was still in his media manager, but he wanted access to it so he could download it for personal reasons. So the only way he can do that is to send a, what do you call it, Lance, uh, dispute. Uh-huh. Yes. We've, we're very familiar with it.

those right now. He told him he just wanted access to it so he can download it. Then you can take it down forever. I don't care. And no response. And he just went ahead and deleted it completely out of his media manager. Six hours later, he got an email saying that he's been flagged for the content. He emailed them saying, how can I be flagged for the content if you never seen it? And I completely deleted it. They said you can be flagged now for content that is deleted. Oh, wow. What? Yeah. All right. So YouTube is definitely

very 1940s German-esque. What are you saying, Philip? If anybody is a content creator on YouTube, be very careful because I know there's a lot of people that make a living off YouTube. Yeah.

They can shut down your shit for something day. Yeah, they can shut down your channel for something that you thought wasn't a problem because deleted it. Yeah, we'll always have our website. That's why we're independent, folks. So we have our own, make our own shit, say whatever the fuck we want to say, right? Exactly.

And we're going to get into some trouble on YouTube for fucking sure. So quickly, yeah, quickly, man. They could flag you, like, just say you were filming something in, I don't know, on a mall or whatever, and there was background music that the mall, music and they can flag you for that. It doesn't surprise me. It's crazy.

Oh, they can pick 16 parts in every fucking show that we do to really flag us if they wanted to. Oh, easy. What are you going to do, you know? Maybe that's what happened to beat on the commentary for a fucking John Travolta movie

that I can't remember the name. I don't know the name. That's definitely one you've got a tiptoe around on YouTube. Hey, here's two good ones though, guys. Next week, it's back to the theater, or at least we hope this is going to be a good one. A Quiet Place Part 2. And then we're also going to check out, there you go, tremors. So, uh, nice.

Nez, until the horror returns again, good night.