The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #263: A Haunting In Connecticut (2009) & The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It (2021)

Episode Date: June 9, 2021

This week, we go back into the Conjuring universe for The Devil Made Me Do It and also check out A Haunting in Connecticut. Cool of the week includes The Djinn, Army of the Dead, and Tenet. Trailers are Gaia and Demonic. The podcast spotlight shines on The Gruesome Magazine podcast. And we get feedback from Josh Youngblood, Gary Hill, Kurt Jensen, Jake Slashah, Jamie J Sammons, Mike J Marin, Jerry Eberts, Horror for Dummies, and Marcey Papandrea. Thanks for listening!

Yes, hi, it's Bill Mosley, and you're listening to The Horror Returns. Goodbye. Greetings, victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify and go. Welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language.

Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. I'm back everybody to the horror returns. I'm Lance and with me as always. my co-host, Brian and Philip, Kevin, hopefully he'll be back next week, but he's working. So, you know, got to make that money. Speaking of working, my job fucking sucked today. How about you guys? I ain't got there yet.

Well, it's hot, so that's fun. You know. Yeah, you start to sweat in those attics a little bit and shit, huh? Fuck yeah, dude. I had one this morning with that old-ass insulation. It's like shredded newspaper from... I was a house from 1902, so... Oh, shit.

Yeah. And, man, it sticks to everything, especially when you're sweaty. Yeah, and I don't have... I got newspaper in my asshole over here. I'm going to be that grumpy old man tonight, man, because I've had a fucked up day, but I don't even have a cool of the week, but I do, Brian, thank God, I've got an uncool of the week. I think I've finally found my first bottom 10 of the year,

so at least I accomplished that. Your first one is June. Got that going for me. It's nice. We'll see how the rest of the year shakes out. Who knows, but you guys ready to jump into Cool of the Week? Yeah. Let's do it.

I'll go last. Oh, okay. Well, then I'll go first because mine is always shitty. because I don't have time to watch a whole lot, man. I have like one cool week and it's just the only thing that I partially saw all week. My brother-in-law was over and he's watching Tenet. And I've been meaning to watch it forever. And I feel like it deserves a real sit-down and watch.

But the part that I saw, and from what I've heard from a lot of people, the movie makes no fucking sense. Yeah. it needs more than one watch. Yeah. Well, and, like, I don't know, there's some sort of time travel element in there, but it doesn't seem to follow any rules. So I don't know how that... That's probably going to bother me, but I feel like I need to sit down and really watch it.

so we'll see we'll see how that one goes uh as as of now i was like what the fuck is going on i can't do this and i mean i watched a good hour and a half of it yeah it's still had no fucking idea what was going on so you so you watched about half of it then yeah probably it's i think it's a long fucking movie if i remember correctly maybe that's my problem you gotta have something else phil come on dude there's got to be a somebody bring me up here guys come on man I need somebody to help me out here Brian somebody saves me

I guess if tenant that's it Phil tenet that's all I can think of man Brian maybe you'll remind me to something else when you start going but now I'm pretty sure that's about it I got four movies I watch they're all new are they all good I don't know. They're all

a day. Checked at that movie Seance. What happened to do a fucking show on a Monday? Checked out that movie. All these are trailer. Most of these are trailers we reviewed,

so I got to watch some movies. Seance. Okay. Nothing new to this one. You know, I guess school girls doing and conjurings and stuff like that.

You have me in school girls. Oh, Philip. There's some twisty ternies in there that I kind of appreciate it and some good kills. Should you seek it out? No, but if you come across it, go ahead, give it a watch. All right.

The next one is... It's on my list. Funhouse. Funhouse is the table. is the next one. Fun house. Okay. Yeah. Kind of a low budget.

I guess you would put it in the torture porn category. Guys running like a internet show where people don't really believe it's real. And he, I guess for this episode, he invites, for this season, he invites, like, YouTubers and TMZ, like, journalist. and it's kind of like big brother because the viewers vote on who gets to leave and then that person has to go through like a test which basically means they're going to die

in horrible ways I checked it out because I'm a big fan of Gigi Saul Guerrero and she's got a role in this she didn't direct it though no she's kind of like she's kind of got like a web site that's kind of like a celebrity

TMZ kind of gossip and there's another Scarsguard out there that popped up in this movie. Another one? Yeah. How many of those? They're like multiplying. Well, I thought it was Bill, the one that's

Pennywise, because he looks exactly like him. But his name is Walter Scarsguard. I got to be honest with you, dude. sounds pretty cool. It's fun. It's definitely low budget. Okay.

I didn't have a problem with it. And like I said, I'm a big fan of Gigi. And if you're kind of into the torture porn stuff, that kind of falls right in there. Well, I mean, who isn't a big fan of Gigi? I mean, if we were to redo our, if we were to redo our hall pass list, she might, she might sneak in there, man. Yeah, still waiting on that interview, Gigi. I know we almost had you there. Almost had you there, but we couldn't get the, I couldn't get the times correct.

We better do it pretty quick, dude, because she is definitely on the way up. Let's see, movie number three, Netflix movie, Things Hard and Scene, starring Amanda Siegfried. All I'm going to say is, I wish I never heard or something. seen this movie because it is boring. I tapped out with half an hour left. Had a bad feeling. Yeah. It's supposed to be supernatural stuff, but all the drama with the her and her husband and other things,

it's like the supernatural stuff takes a backseat and you forget about it. And then something will happen, like a chair or move. And you're like, oh, yeah, that kind of movie. Totally forgot. So. Right. Don't recommend it. Real, real slow then.

Well, that's a... You don't like her, right? I don't have no problem with her, but I've not seen anything. I've not seen anything that I can... She's always that dumb girl from being curls to me. Oh, my God. Yeah, that's her, Phil.

That's her. That never clicked before. Yeah, the only other thing I liked... It's not her. It's the movie she does. does. The only other thing I like that she was in was Jennifer's body. Oh, that's a great movie.

Yeah, but I don't like the choices she makes and roles. That's fair. But my cool of the week is the gin. I actually ended up liking that movie a lot more than I thought I was going to.

Oh, I did want to watch that. Okay. The little kid did an awesome job in it. You know, it does take place in the apartment that he lives in. His father goes to work at night, so he's there by himself. Okay. He has a condition where he cannot verbally say anything.

He can't talk. He can't, I don't think he could even, like, scream or anything. So calling out for help is kind of not an issue or is an issue. Okay. And, yeah, don't fuck with gins. Even if they give you wishes, it'll bite you in the ass. the end. Or demons.

We've learned that. Yep. So, yeah, definitely, I thought gin was a lot better than I thought it was going to be, so I'm going to pick that one for cool the week. All right. Okay.

I do have one more that I thought of. Oh, good. Thank God. Thank you. And it was just sort of a, there's a reason I forgot it. Okay. Those who wish me dead.

Andrew Jolie. and I mean it was all right but it was like I don't know kind of one of those bland Hallie Berry action clicks yeah I kind of I think me and Lance talked about it uh I felt like

it sold me on something else that it wasn't yeah definitely yeah it was more of a I don't know slightly a thriller it it looked like it could be cool.

I don't even think they ever really explained anything. I don't really remember anything. I know there was a certain element to the movie that I thought was going to be a constant throughout, but you didn't really get it until the end. Yeah. But just kind of pissed me off. So,

I don't know. That one was just really super mediocre to me. Like, I didn't hate the movie. It was well acted, I thought. But the story was just so convoluted. It's just

Uber forgettable. Oh, boy. So, oh, man, we got to write something down for Kudel of the week, Phil. Is it going to be that or tenant, man? Oh, Mayweather, Logan Paul.

Yeah, there you go. We could do that. No, that may be an uncool of a week, too, all the end. Yeah, don't, don't never put that in this cool of the week. But, hey, I, give it to them them paul brothers they know how to market themselves yeah this was just a big

money grab this that that wasn't even a real fight yeah i don't know people were getting upset i mean it it went exactly how i thought it was going to yeah he uh Logan tried to establish his size

and strength early on and he gassed and then as I told somebody it was just Mayweather playing with his food basically he could have knocked his kid out. He couldn't get up in there to knock him out without Logan fucking laying on top of him like a wet blanket.

Where there's a little controversy going on because I guess there's a video and it does kind of look like it where he catches Logan. It does, but if you see the whole clip, I mean, he doesn't, I mean, if he was going to go down, it's not very obvious if you watch it in full motion doing the whole thing. Because he's still trying to like sort of pitter patting him in the side.

I think he's just exhausted and laying on top of him like he did the entire last three or four rounds. Yeah, Logan, work on your cardio. Yeah. Well, he's a bigger dude. He was going to gas. I mean, I figured that was the plan from the get-go. Yeah, he thought he was going to be able to get in there and ding him. and he did a few times, but...

Something tells me if Mayweather had wanted that fight to end in the first round it would have. Yeah. Yeah, the fighting is not a number one concern for him. It's making the money. Seems that way, right? Which they're already setting up for him to fight the brother now, which I think is very interesting because Jake already has a fight set up with the former UFC

Walterweight champion Tyrone Woodley Oh my goodness Which if Floyd's saying Jake is his next fight and he already Has a fight it makes me think Is this Woodley fight gonna go down Kind of shady Hmm

Just so I would not want to fight Tyrone Woodley No That's a fucking monster It seems fucking crazy that this is even a thing. I mean, Ben Ashton, that went exactly how I thought it was,

but we're talking a solid UFC champ with knockout power. Yeah. So, I mean, if the outcome goes the way I want it to, I'd be very satisfied because yeah. Out of the Paul brothers, I do not like Jake.

He does seem like, they both seem like duches. If I had to go with wine, I'd go with Logan because Jake, the whole Got Your Hat thing with Mayweather and him trying to tie shoes. I'm like, how fucking older are you, man? Oh, boy.

They're idiots. I didn't even know who the fuck they were until they started fighting people. Oh, my granddaughter knew who they were. Years ago. Extremely wealthy YouTubers. Yeah.

Why don't, Why don't they just do a fight with Joe Rogan? And the only requirement is that five minutes before the fight, they have to each eat a bag of mushrooms. The other requirement would be is for Joe not to kill one of them, because Joe Rogan's legit. Especially if you, I mean, maybe boxing they could handle him. You think?

No. But they would be demolished in a second. And Truman, how? Yeah, that guy is a Brazilian Jusu Blackbilt. Joe Rogan don't fuck around. Plus, he's on all kinds of, like, steroids and testosterone and shit. Oh, yeah. He can go for one.

He's one giant muscle. Yeah. No, I think the big money fight, I want to see the DePaul brothers fight each other. Oh, come on, man. Do you think that'll happen? I guess for enough money, it will, huh? Or they can fight the Diaz brothers. Oh, oh.

I would definitely pay money to see that. Double main event one night. The Paul brothers versus the Diaz brothers. Make it happen. Well, they're definitely all whores. So if there's enough money out there, it'll happen. Yeah. All right, Lance, hit us what you're not cool of the week.

Okay, you know what? I do have a cool of the week. I do. It's not all bad. And I have a, I have a bono. to pick with our good friends over at the League of Geeks about this movie because I watched my second viewing of Army of the Dead

and loved it just as much the second time as I did the first. If you listen to the guys over at the League of Geeks, they're like fucking analyzing this movie. Like it's a fucking Alfred Hitchcock masterpiece or something. Guys, lighten up. There's a lot of haters on it.

Lighten up. Plot holes all over the place. Of course there are. But it's a fun fucking movie to watch, and it's still my favorite movie the year. And you're not going to convince me that it's not. And was there a lot of dumb storylines? Of course. But that's not what I watched the movie for.

I watched the movie for what I got out of it. And I'm telling you right now, for a two-and-a-half-hour movie, that fucking thing just flies by. I swear it feels like you're only watching like an hour and a half long movie. Yeah, like... Zombie boobs. Yeah. Yeah, like Phil said.

You can't make that. They're not the only ones. Yeah, there's a lot of people. I've seen a review saying the movie gave us nothing we've never seen before. Well, that's what... And I was like, uh... There was some things in there that was pretty, you know... I thought so, too.

Zombie babies. Zombie babies. Robot zombies. Zombies might be aliens. All right, second week in a row. It's my cool of the week. But I definitely have a not-so-cool of the week. have you guys checked at this

sci-fi movie, and I use that term very loosely. Voyagers, you guys heard of this one? Oh, with Ready Player 1, Kid. Yeah, Johnny Depp's daughter is in it, and yeah, Ty Sheridan, wasn't he mud? Yeah, well, I haven't seen it, but I know what you're talking about. Colin Farrell is in it for about a minute just to get the star power. This thing was a fucking piece of shit.

It looked like it was going to be... Oh, my God, I love space movies, but this was like fucking... I don't know, man, it was like Twilight Meets Little House on the Prairie in Space or something. This was terrible. You just sold me on that movie. Definite bottom 10. If you want to fill out your bottom 10, check this out. If you want something a little bit stronger than Xanax to fall asleep, check this movie out.

Because there is nothing that happens in this. It's absolutely horrible. Is it streaming anywhere? What's that? Is it streaming somewhere? I found it. Okay. I got it.

I got it. I got it. I got it. I got it. I did not spend, I did not spend 1999. I found a way. So, uh, yeah, Voyagers.

Not so cool of the week. You guys ready to move on? Yeah. I'll find it. Just like a, I found the Mayweather of Paul fight. I paid for that piece of shit. You did?

Did you really? Oh, you're the one. You know what? I think you were probably the best bet because they were whoever at Showtime or whoever they were on it because I had to change feeds

like 40 different times. They were shutting them down left and right. Oh, man. Yeah, go do it. Like you start watching it. and then they black out the screen or what? Yeah, but I got to watch it. Oh, yeah.

Shout out to Ocho Cinco. Got in there and... Did what he could. Oh, boy. We heard of baseball scrimmage, so I missed that fight. He got knocked out, though, huh? No, he got dropped in. It was a four-rock exhibition.

He got dropped in the fourth, but he got back up. Hey, man. How old is he? He's got to be close to 40, right? Oh, he's definitely got to be in his 40s. I mean, that guy, after he was out of the NFL, raced a racehorse. So he's definitely an athlete,

but he definitely looked like a football player that was trying to box in there. Still on brand. Nothing, if not, entertaining. Let's see, what are we doing, horror headlines? Yeah. Did we lose, Lance?

Oh, well. Well, let's go with horror headlines. Maybe he just went to pee or something. All right, horror headlines. We talked about rumored Rob Zombie Munster's movie. Today, he officially confirmed that is his next movie. I still don't understand how in the world that's going to work. That does not seem like it's up his alley.

I mean, it seems like something that he probably watched and really loved. But how is this going to work? Do you think he's going to stay on brand or maybe... Launch it up a little? Yeah. Probably. Like, basically, we're going to get the Fire Fire Family as the monsters. Because I know his wife's playing Lily.

Of course she is. And Lance's good friend, Jeff Daniel Phillips, is playing Herman. Can you guys hear me again? Yeah. Yeah. All right. I'm back. I don't know what happened, man. Just some spotty internet, I guess.

I mean, I watch it. I mean, Richard Bres said, Elvira's going to be in it, so. Oh, nice. I don't think it was Elvira, but. How old is Elvira? She's got to be in her 60s. She still looks damn good. At least. Yeah, no.

And maybe, I don't know if this is controversial, but I like her out of costume. With the red hair, I don't know. It works for me. That is Guilf. Yeah. I wanted to go talk to her when we were in Texas, but her line was ridiculous. Well, maybe we'll get a chance this year. Yeah.

Let's see what else we got. News is not really been picking up. It's kind of surprising. It's summer here. A movie I have not seen yet, but I've heard nothing but good things. Cruella is getting a sequel already. That, I did see that movie. How was it?

I will tell you right now that it's definitely going to be up for some Oscars for costume. Yeah. A little cheesy for me, but, you know, I'm not exactly the target audience. AJ loved it. That's all that matters, right? But I grew up on the original 101 Dalmatians, and I just can't see her as a sympathetic character. Right.

Yeah. That's, it's... I mean, I know that they've done that with villains before. I mean, speaking of Angelina Jolie, you know, but what was it? That was pretty good. Yeah, too bad the sequel, wasn't. Yeah.

Oh, yeah. Pretty rough. All right. Let's see. a quiet place is getting a spinoff, and they already have a release date. It's coming in 2023. That's great, but first we kind of need the story to be wrapped up.

I mean, the second one really left us dangling there at the end. From what I understand, John Krasinski does have a story idea for the third movie. Is he involved in the spinoff? I think story-wise, but I don't think he's directing or anything. He probably will be on as a producer. He'll probably James wanted up. Well,

we'll see. I kind of like him as a director so far, man. He tells a good story. Oh, news, news, I'm not seeing anything worth. Donnie Yen's going to be in John Wick 4. I'm excited about that. Oh,

fuck, yeah. So there'll probably be more martial arts then. Yeah, and they said Donnie N's playing an old friend of John Wicks that has has the same enemies as John does right now. So I've got to see some John Wic, Donnie and team up going on. I'll bet you anything that Better Call Saul shows up.

I would fucking love that. Showing up with his dad, Christopher Lloyd, and the Riza. Oh, man. You know it. It's the same universe, right? They've already said it's canon. So here you go. They're going to try to kill each other first.

and then somehow all of these big-ass enemies come together and team up against. You got to have Charlize Theron from Atomic Blind. Oh, God, that would be awesome, man. Bring back Holly Berry and her dogs. Sure. Oh, yeah. All-out war, John Wick 5. All right, we got some release dates.

Let's see, American Horror Stories, the spinoff anthology series. is coming exclusively to FX on Hulu July 15th. No, that's something like you get behind. Yeah, do you know anything about this, guys? Like what the first season is going to be or anything? Well, the American Horror Stories, the anthology, each episode is going to be a different story. Each episode?

Yeah. You're thinking about the 10th season, which is called American Horror Story Double Feature That comes August 25th. Wow. I'm like the anthology idea. I think that that

Because I haven't watched American Horror Story in a while. Plus if you don't like one episode, the next one is totally different. Yeah. Yep. Makes sense. and returning for the 10th season Evan Peters Kathy Bates

Billy Lord and new additions to the cast McCauley Culkin I heard he's doing something really fucking crazy on the show oh he would fit that TV that he would fit that show to a T

man I hope it's like a very late in life a home alone remake thing. Gotta be, man. Gotta be. Let's see. What we're doing this...

What we do in the... What we do in the Shadow's third season is coming September 2nd. Yes. All right. Dropping two episodes that night. First two episodes. And I think that is pretty much it with the news.

Now, what would you guys say? I know we're only halfway through the year, but what would you guys say is your favorite TV series so far this year? Or do you kind of have to think about it? Well, for something we talk about on here, I really enjoyed them on Amazon Prime. Still haven't seen that one, man. And it's only like, what, eight episodes or something like that?

Yeah. But for just overall TV show, I have to go with Cobra Kai. Yeah, I was thinking about that too. Handmaid's Tale is really disappointing me this year, guys. It's kind of gone off the rails a little bit. Yeah, it's really gotten away from the original story. I'm not so sure I like where it's headed, so we'll see what happens.

I will say that that show on HBO has nothing to do with horror, but it's a murder. mayor of East Town. You guys seen that? I want to watch it. I've heard nothing but good things. It's definitely going to be in the running for sure, man. That's a good one. And I love a self-contained story. I heard that other show on HBO is pretty good. The Nevers? Yeah, I haven't seen that one yet. But isn't Josh

we didn't have something to do with that? So it's kind of like people are trying to distance themselves a little bit from him? I think he was let go I think the story concept was his but when they found out what kind of piece of shit he is

they're like we'll take it from here what did he do he's very not nice to women I think he's very touchy-feely he likes to from what I understand he likes to tell women that he has the power to ruin their careers, which...

Oh, yeah. You made Avengers. Calm down. That's it. Right. You're not running Hollywood, fellow. Yeah. A Hollywood director said that?

No. Well, that's like the old school Hollywood. But didn't he try that shit with Black Widow? And she said, oh, yeah? Well, fuck you, buddy. She has enough power in Hollywood that she kind of outed him, so to speak.

Yeah, I think he tried to He tried to one-up Scarlett, Johansson, and Yeah, I don't think you're gonna win that fight. Nobody hates her. Yeah, no shit, man. I sure know. Nope.

It's excited for her movie. I think I'm going to end up going to the theater for that one. I know it's coming to Disney Plus, so you can rent it on Disney, but that one, and I've heard, even though it looks cheesy and the story is probably going to be hell of stupid I heard Fast 9 is definitely a movie

to be watched on the big screen Oh, of course Yeah, I mean, that's probably the only way it's worth the shit I mean, it is out there now Well, dude, I don't know Phil That fucking 65 inch TV that you installed in my room But for my birthday, dude that's pretty fucking close to a theater experience,

especially with that sound bar. But it still does not, yeah, it still doesn't touch the theater experience, of course, you know, but shit, man, fucking Army of the Dead sure looks sweet on it.

Tell you that. That works. All right, that's the news. All right. Trailer Park, Phil? Yes, sir. Want to take a little trip? Down to the trailer park.

Where we bring you the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. So. We got them this week, that's for sure. Brian, what are our trailers this week? First one we're going to talk about is probably going to mispronounce it. Gaia. Gaia. Gaia.

Gaia. Yeah. Mother Earth, right. Yeah. Yeah. Let's check out the synopsis here on a surveillance mission. in a primordial forest, a park ranger encounter's two survivalists following post-apocalyptic lifestyle.

Sorry, I cannot talk. The boy and his philosophical fathers seem to have their own religion and a mysterious relationship to nature. There are many suspicious aspects to their existence, and when the cabin is attacked by strange post-human beings one night, she learns that there is a greater threat. in this emerging wilderness. Okay, before you go on, man, sorry to, sorry to interrupt.

But Brian, speaking of park rangers and, you know, guiding people around and stuff, I did get a chance to see in the earth. Did you figure out the mystery? Man, I really expected more from Ben Wheatley, dude. I mean, I did enjoy, you know, a lot of his, I mean, he's very much a director that likes to deal with, like, you know, legends and, you know, things that kind of look like fairy tales and things like that. But, ah, man, this one just didn't capture me as much as some of his others.

Probably won't quite make the top ten this year, man. Did you like the flashing lights and loud sounds? I don't know why they did that. I couldn't figure that one out. And they say virus, but did they even bring? really talk about the virus that much except at the beginning? I mean I don't know, man.

Not my favorite Ben Wheatley movie. Well, what could be your favorite movie is Gaia. Let's see. Who stars in this? Monique Rockman, Carl Ney, Alex Van Dyke,

Anthony Ossemi, sorry, bad at names. That's the cast. Directed by Jocko Brower. What did you guys think of this? Philip said he's super excited about both the trailers this week. I think this one looks cool with shit, man.

It does. It's something totally different. And like, you know, Earth demons. Yeah. I guess. It definitely gave me that annihilation vibe. Yeah. The word I heard was

Eco Horror. Yeah. Ah, okay. And this might be probably watched under certain conditions because there was some

trippy things going on with plants and mushrooms and vines and... Yes. They were here long before we even had the thought of gods. Ah, wow. So says the trailer.

So I'm definitely interested It looks it looks really cool The visuals look Beautiful there's a lot of good Look like drone shots and a lot of the shots of the forest look beautiful Really interested in this survivalist Father's son Duo they met who according to the synopsis have their own religion

And I think they know a lot more than what they're letting on, or at least what the trailer's letting on. So, definitely interested myself. Yeah. Looks right up my alley, man. It's cool.

Yeah, that can be a good thing, man. A trailer that actually doesn't give too much away, you know? Let's see. You've got a release date of June 18th. Not too far away. No? We'll be there. Hopefully it'll be in the theater, right?

Yeah, well, there'll be somewhere. I'll find it. And our final trailer is a new Neil Blomkamp film titled Demonic. Synopsis goes, a young woman unleashes terrifying demons when supernatural forces at the root of a decades-old riff between mother and daughter are ruthlessly revealed. The star is Carly Pope, Natalie Boltz, Chris William Martin, Michael J. Rogers, Andrea Arger. And like I said, this is written and directed by Neil Blomkamp.

And I'll start it off by saying it's Neil Blomkamp. I'm in. This looks like a really cool horror, sci-fi mashup. There you go. And that fucking chant at the end is creepy as hell. Right. Great trailer. Like, I don't know if the movie. going to be any good or not. It looks

interesting. I don't know what the fuck is going on. Some sort of Matrixe scenario that releases demons, I guess. I don't know. Right. But yeah, great job on the trailer. The music, the chant thing that they've got going on. It

sucked me in. I don't know if the movie's going to be good, but the trailer was. Which, thank you. Yeah, I'm in. Totally. And it looks... Now, I guarantee you, AJ, won't watch it with me just simply because of the name. And it seems like an ironic name because, I mean,

does it really seem like there's demons in it or, I don't know, look more high tech to me, maybe, like a black mirror type thing? I don't know. Yeah, it looks more black mirror matrixy than demons, but we'll see what they do with it. They don't give a lot of way again. Yeah, maybe somebody used technology for a seance

or conjuring or something. Ah, well, hopefully it's better than the movie seance, right, Brian? I mean, they got some good kills in there. Yeah? Be just as good as seance, but I don't want it to be just as good as seance. I want it to... I really like Neil Blomkamp. I like all his movies.

I think he has a great eye. He keeps releasing images from his alien movie he didn't get to do. And it just fucking makes me wish he got to do. it. Well, still may happen, right? Yeah, he was supposed to do the Robocop remake, and he's not

doing that no more, so. Maybe better if he just does his own thing, you know? Yeah, he seems to be pretty good at coming up with his own concept, so. Yeah, but a new concept in the alien universe would be cool. Yeah, and it would

retcon, what I think he was trying to do. It was a sequel to the second an alien movie. Okay. Where everybody wasn't killed in part three.

Yeah. Was he going to bring back Sigourney Weaver? Sigourney Weaver, the little girl, Newt, uh, oh yeah.

What's his name? Uh, Kyle Reese. He wasn't Kyle Reese, but. Right. Hicks. Wait a minute.

He was in Terminator. Yeah. Because you know in the opening of three, they died. Everybody died. Yeah. When the... Yeah. That was the...

Yeah, that was the prison planet one, right? Yeah. And I think his story, retcons all that. And they survived. A lot of cool images I'll post them. Okay. I'm not always a huge fan of that retconning stuff. Like the...

I don't know, man. Like the Halloween, I think... I think a lot more... people enjoyed it more than I did. It's just kind of hard for me to get it out of my mind. I know, dude. He should have. I mean, come on.

He thought about it. He looked at the baby. He gave it to head tilt. He thought about it. Right. All right. Demonic will be out August 20th. And I think I'm going to throw it on the schedule.

I don't know what I'll pair with it, but figure something out. Looks cool. Don't watch it. It'll be too hard. I'm still really excited about that guy a movie. I think it's going to be awesome. I can't wait for that one. Mm-hmm.

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man. Yeah. Yeah. Hey, Crystal. Come back on the show soon. Yeah, anytime. Regarding old Josh Youngblood says that's a pretty cool premise and all, but I wonder

how he's going to shit the bed with the ending. They all get young again, right? Who is the director on that one? Shama. Oh, that's right. That's him. Yeah. Oh, yeah. There you go. He might be due. Yeah? His last one, his last one was a stinker, so.

Well, he's about due, huh? Yeah, he's kind of up and down. I mean, there's definitely going to be either a good twist or a bad ending or both. Yeah. Maybe at the same time. I don't remember when we talked about it. Did he write it? I think so. Because that's usually where the problem happens. Oh, I got you.

Uh-oh, you're talking about, did he write old? Yeah. Do we have it on our schedule? Are we going to cover it? Yeah, we're going to cover it. We're going to do a double feature of Shama-Lamma-Ding-dong. Ah, okay. Old and The Visit.

That's a great combo, man. It does say that he wrote it, but he wrote it based on the graphic novel Sandcastle. Oh, so he adapted it. So he adapted it. Okay. I'm a little bit more. I'm not as worried now. Maybe we'll get something good.

Unless he changed something. He very well might. All right. Regarding the action returns coverage of Beverly Hills cop. Awesome. All right. Gary Hill says, let me know if you need someone for part two. Hell yeah.

Brian? Sorry, Gary. Too late for that. Maybe part three with the fun world or whatever? Yeah, you'll hear our thoughts on that one. I had a lot to say about that movie. Man, Eddie Murphy's got a special place in time, though, where he was the funniest man on the planet.

Mm-hmm. He was pretty damn good when he came back on SNL this year. Oh, yeah, I don't see that one. The Dolomite movie was good. Oh, hell yeah. He's actually having kind of a rebound lately. He's done a lot of good... Stumbled a little bit with coming to America.

I liked it. I liked it for what it was. Don't take it too seriously, Brian. I have to, but I won't go there. I actually got into an argument of my older daughter. She tried to stick up for that movie and I had to let her have it. Go watch it. Well, you know.

I mean, she tried to do the, it's not, it's not a sequel, it's its own story. And that enraged me because if it's not a sequel, they want to rehashed same storylines, brought back characters, one-liners, everything. Right. Eddie, you knew what you were doing when you sold it to Amazon. You knew what you were doing. I'm sure he got a pretty penny for it, too. Yep. Regarding the legend of the Sawdust Brothers, Star Dust Brothers, my bad.

That's a whole different story. Kurt Jensen says, I've had a copy of the Star Dust Brothers sitting on my TV stand for months. I should probably just watch. Collecting Star Dast, huh? Yeah. Aren't we all just Star Dast? Yeah, Star Dess, we are. What is the legend of the Star Dess Brothers?

Anybody know? I don't know, but I want to know what the legend of the Sawdust brothers are. That's probably assumed to the Texas chainsaw massacre, right? I was thinking Hills Have Eyes type stuff. They come after them with chainsaws and take out the mutants. Oh, man. That would be great. I'd watch that.

Star Dess Brothers, I'm not familiar. I'm not even sure if this. This might have been something somebody else posted on there. Okay. Well, might check it out. It looks interesting. You guys ever heard of a movie called The Forbidden Zone? Yeah. That's familiar.

Do you remember that? Directed by Richard Elfman, Danny Elfman's brother, and Danny Elfman did the music for it. That might have to be, that might have to be Lonnie Langston's movie that we do a commentary on, dude. guy gets a commentary? Well, here's the thing, though. If we're going to do a commentary for that movie, there's going to be a pretty hard and fast rule in place

that something is going to have to be, there has to be a brother's agreement that something has to be ingested 30 minutes before we roll the movie. Sounds like something can be worked out on that one. That sounds like a blast. Let's do that. Regarding Slashers podcast, Jake Slashah says, thanks, Brian, you're the gnarliest.

Anytime. That word gets totally underused, gnarly. I like it. Good job. Regarding horror in the house of Sammons, Jamie J. Sammons says thank you for the share. it is greatly appreciated. And any time for you too. Yeah.

Brian posted, Are you excited for The Conjuring? The Devil Made Me Do It. What's your favorite Conjuring, favorite movie in the Conjuring universe? And, of course, The Conjuring 2 is leading the pack

because it's very obviously the best one. I don't want to hear an argument. I like the first one. Better than the second one? Yeah. kind of loses me when Patrick Wilson picks up the guitar

and... Oh, come on. This is Elvis thing. Yeah, but the nun, man. They kind of fucked it up with the movie, but... Yeah. Yeah.

They did. Well, we'll get to the conjuring here in a minute. Yeah. Our buddy, Mike J. Marin, posted a hilarious picture. It says,

looking at anti-vaxxers be like go to the Facebook group to see it hint from the thing I'll check that out Jerry Ebert says ooh that's Gary. What? I don't know.

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Hello. And Brian getting to play the famous what's his name again? Dummy Ken? or Dumkin or help me out here. What is it, Dunbar?

Hunter Dunbar. Hunter Dunbar. Hunter Dumby Bar. He got you there, Hunter. There's no coming back from that one. No. All right. Well, we have, what, three weeks left,

so hopefully people belly up to the bar here. All right. For now, we'll move right along to our featured attractions. This week it's the Conjuring 3 as well as a haunting in Connecticut. Connecticut. Connect eye cut. You know what I mean.

First we'll start with a haunting in Connecticut. After a family is forced to relocate for their son's health, they became experiencing supernatural behavior in their new home and uncover a sinister history. Director is Peter Cornwell, also known for post-apocalyptic. pizza. Okay. Writers are Adam Simon and Tim Metcalf. Ed and Lorraine Warren,

who are known for involvement in the Amityville horror case, were investigators for this case. Oh, I did not know that. Also, Jennifer Lawrence's favorite horror movie. You have bad taste in movie. I mean, no.

I'm throwing a real quick little bit of trivia it has since been debunked that the ones they they helped make up this story for the movie

oh okay well there you go it's not based on one of their cases he was asked to help with the script at the time when he was alive anything for a buck well at least they were

involved. Yeah, I mean, if you want someone to write about this stuff, I mean, Ed and Lorraine Warren, I mean, come on now. Yeah, true. All right. Brian, what do you think of the haunting in Connecticut? It's been a while since I've seen this. I remember liking it a lot more when I first seen it and rewatching it. It's definitely a slow burn. If you're looking for gruesome deaths and people just dying, then this is not it. This is a simple, straightforward, haunting. There are some creepy things that go on, but nothing out of the ordinary when it comes to these type of movies. I thought the cast was fine.

Virginia Madsen's always nice to see her show up. I can't think of the actor's name that played the husband that was barely in this movie. for some reason. I didn't understand. He was there before they moved. He was there when they first got there, and then he seemed to go to work and never come home.

And then all of a sudden, he was alcoholic out of nowhere. I didn't get that whole aspect of the movie. Maybe the devil made him do it, man. I guess. The stuff happening with the main kid, I thought was, was cool looking. I liked when he was getting having the visions. He was seeing

the kid that had the ability to have the dead speak through him. And I thought that was really cool how the ectoplasmic stuff would come out his mouth. And that was the dead, you know. It's basically showing you even though it's a gift it could be kind of fucked up

to have. Especially if that's how the dead is coming out through your mouth like that to speak to people. I thought the whole necromancy thing that the mortician was doing was was creepy especially him with his collection of eyelids he was keeping but other than that I can't really say that this is a great movie it's kind of boring nothing really happens yeah aside from a couple I'm trying to look it up. I always enjoy

when he pops up in the movie. Eli Kotez, is that how he says his name? Yeah. I knew you were going to say him. Yeah, he's always cool. You know, that's Casey Jones, man. Right. It is Casey Jones.

Jose can say, oh, they can say, oh, bad. Cricket, you got to know what a crop it is before you know it. No, never mind. We won't get into that movie. But it's great to see him, Virginia Madsen. Amanda Cruz. this is back when she was a bit younger

I know her from like Silicon Valley and other things Right But it's just boring Nothing really happens It's a lot of stuff showing up And then they're not there And then loud noises and

Stuff like that I mean It is what it is Yeah I'll I'll roll right off of you We can save Lance for last I kind of agree with you. I think I remember

really enjoying watching it when it first came out. And it's not a totally forgettable horror movie, because you know, there's a ton of those, especially ghost stories. Right.

But it does sort of just go on the pile, you know what I mean? It's not bad, but it's not one of the greats. And if you're going to do a ghost story, eh, I mean, I'm sure it made money, but you kind of have to be one of the greats. Yeah, you in, in that genre with the amount of movies that's came out,

you got to, you got to have something that just, that sticks out on the others. Yeah, and it, and it does sort of just follow along in the same haunting trope category, you know? Like, there's nothing that they do that's really, super different. Dead bodies in the wall. That was kind of a cool thing. Yeah, they looked real creepy, especially because, you know, they had to, he cut their eyelids

off. Yeah. You know, the dead can never rest. And they just had like that crazy look on their face because, you know, they have no eyelids. But yeah, I mean, you know, good story, good effects, good scares. But it was, but it was kind of just, Generic. I forgot that I had seen this movie

until we watched it again and I was like, wait, is this the one where this happens or this happens? You know what I mean? Like it falls into that territory. Yeah. So it was, it was good. On rewatch, not as good as as I remembered it, but

not bad. Yeah, I think what kind of hurts it on the rewatch is we've had, as far as this specific genre of horror movie we had gotten so many great haunted house movies since then so it kind of just it gets lost in the mix

I will I did I did watch the sequel this week and I will say I kind of liked the story better in the sequel. Oh I don't even know it was a sequel yeah it's uh of course the haunting in Connecticut

to uh ghosts of Georgia oh okay it makes sense sure and it takes place like on a the original story in the movie is kind of like had to do with the Underground Railroad back in the day with slaves and stuff like that

Oh, okay. That's not a bad idea. Of course, you know, they be a little more creepy. Of course, they buy a house that all this took place on that land, so. And Bocauton from Mandelaarine shows up. Katie Sackaw.

Oh, nice. And that guy from House of Wax. That guy. One guy. Yeah, the guy. Vincent Price? Oh, the remake. The one, they were supposed to be twins, him and the main girl.

Paris Hilton. Oh, wait. She was the other actress, loosely put. Well, Lance, what did you think about it? Well, it's a good thing you guys went first, guys, because I have a confession to make. I got about 30 minutes into this and fell asleep. And I really, I could not,

I just couldn't find the energy to bring, and I was, you know how you wake up and the credits are going sometimes? And you're like, do I get the remote control and rewind it back again and watch everything I missed? Nah, not with this one. Nah. First 30 minutes, man.

nothing really hooked me. I thought it was just kind of a cheap, I thought it was doing kind of a cheap rip-off of the exorcist with the fact that, well, you had the kid who had cancer, right? So that's obviously always going to be an easy target. But I just kind of thought they were sort of trying to rip off the fact that, you know, that that movie did it really, really well, where there's a girl where there's something wrong with her,

but no one in the medical field or psychiatry can do anything to help her. so you get, you know, like this helpless feeling. And this one just bored the fuck out of me. I kind of dug that aspect in the movie. Did you? It explained why he was able to see spirits because he was so close to death. Yeah, I guess that makes sense. I guess I can see it.

But I really can't give a fair grade of this movie because I only saw the first third of it. And, you know, nothing about it really impressed me or made an impression. I mean, hell, I couldn't even tell. you know what happened i mean obviously the fact you see virginia madsen show up and i can tell you what happened lights went off and on okay you think you see something but you don't well and then everything was saved the echo classroom scenes were cool though yeah which that was actually an element in the new hellboy that i actually liked yeah because the the the main actress and that that was like her gift yeah that's right it seems uh really shudely

gift to have to have the dead speak through you, but they got to come out in this ectoplasmic blob out of your mouth? Yeah, it seemed like the special effects were pretty good. I just, I just couldn't, I just couldn't get into the story. I mean, again, like you guys said, I mean, it's just kind of like something we've seen before, and it just seemed a little bit boring. It never caught my attention. And like I said, I just couldn't get the energy. I was samped. I was totally drained and I couldn't get the energy to hit that rewind button. So

I can't fairly judge this one, guys. So this one was or was not based on a true story? It is not. Okay. Well, they sort of make it out to be. And that's what I had always heard. I think it was later

proven after the fact of the movie coming out. Yeah. And, you know, that always adds credence to it. The see that on every effing horror movie at this point. Yeah, it made pretty good money. It's a budget of 10 million in box office, 77 million.

Yeah, I mean, it was definitely passable. I mean, if it came out now, and it was the first time we watched it, I'd be like, oh, yeah, that was pretty good. You know, it may even roll itself into the top 10, but yeah, to put it up

against the big boys is not even fair. Yeah, yeah. All right. Scores. Brian, what do you think? I'm going to give it I give it a six. It was...

Yeah, okay. More good than bad then. Yeah, I thought it was well-made, well-acted, it's a slow burn. I think just the lack of anything really happening. I mean, when stuff happened, there was large gaps in between. Yes. There were certain elements of the story

that I really dug and thought were pretty cool. And like I said, there's good people in the cast. It's just, I think it just, on this rewatch, it just kind of drug on for me at least. I mean, it's not even, it's under two hours, but it felt, I felt every minute of this movie. I had a hard time paying attention to. Yeah.

I think if you haven't seen it at all, it's worth a watch. If you have seen it, I'm going to give it a six and a half, I guess. Damn, not bad. Not bad. It wasn't a bad movie. It just wasn't great or super memorable.

Yeah, like I said, in all fairness, I can't give it a score. I guess I would give it a five, right? Because I have to be right on the fence. I didn't finish it, so it's hard. kind of hard to say. I think that's fair because I think honestly, Lance, I think if you would have finished it, I think you would have gave it about a five. Kind of just middle of the room. Yeah.

All right. On to the Conjuring Three, our new movie. The Warrens investigate a murder that may be linked to a demonic possession. And this one is based on a true story, right? Yes. Okay.

Director is Michael Chavez, also known for the curse of La Eurona. Yeah, I think... But James Wan was a writer, along with David Leslie Johnson, McGoldrick. All right. Lorraine Williams, played by Vera Formiga, in the Conjuring movies, died a natural death, age 92. on April 18, 2019. She's been a head consultant on all the conjuring projects and an avid follower of the series. The movie was originally supposed to hit theaters in September 2020,

but it's released with Sheld due to COVID-19 pandemic outbreak in June 2021. Oh, to June 2021. All right. Brian, what did you think about the Conjuring? All right. I've been on my positive kick. I got to get the positives out first. I love seeing

Ed and Lorraine back. Super big fan of Vera Formiga. Yeah. I was interested, really hype for this movie because it wasn't going to be like the first two. We were getting out of that haunted house aspect. Yeah. And

having this case, which I might be wrong, but there was a clip in the trailer, which wasn't in the movie, which I really thought it would help the case for the movie because, you know, this kid committed a murder and is claiming he was demonically possessed. And they're trying to, you know, not hear any of that. And Ed basically tells them, I mean, we swear on the Bible to uphold, you know, to tell the truth, but we're not going to recognize the existence of the devil.

Yeah. Which I thought was pretty cool. Yeah, which I thought was pretty cool. And I wanted to get into this whole investigation and the whole court, court procedure, procedural, you know, stuff. And didn't really get that, really. The court stuff came later and it was not what I really wanted out of it. This is compared to the other two, this is a slow burn. I mean, they took forever to really get this story.

going and for me it kind of hurt it for me um there was at times i kind of was bored and then something would happen and it would pull me back in i'm like that's pretty fucking cool right and then nothing and then something and then i'd be pulled back in i'm okay i'm back in the story and then it would just kind of drag and i don't know there was there was a lot in here that i really liked i don't i don't think it was executed well. I like the whole aspect to introduce in the witchcraft and

evil totems and curses. Yes. Very different from what we got in the other country and I'm super excited that they went that direction. It's just I don't know, maybe I don't want to say nothing bad about the man Michael Chavez

but this is your second movie in this universe that I was kind of bored of. Uh-oh. You definitely, he definitely has an eye. He, as far as that, this movie looked gorgeous. Mm-hmm. The special effects were cool.

But I have to say, man, I was bored. Oh, no. Ooh. Well, I... Okay. That surprises me. I don't know that I would say that I was bored. I think it was a good story.

It definitely Off the gate though Wasn't as good as the Conjuring 2 for me There just weren't as many really creepy moments Like That scene in the dark In The Conjuring 2 Where he's like

You know Looking at the painting and the nun And all that Oh my God Yes The fingers come out from the side Yeah That was fucking terrifying

I re-watch, though, the farce two. The farce two pulled up for me. Yeah. Right. Right. And, I mean, I think I compared the Conjuring 2 to the Exorcist. It's one of my favorite horror movies of all time at this point, I think. But The Conjuring 3 does not hold up.

It is good, though. I mean, I like the story. It's, you know, when, I don't know how much I can get it to it, but it's interesting, at least. There's just not as many really creepy moments. And the moments that are supposed to be really creepy kind of are not that scary. You know, they're definitely not terrifying. And we'll get into that for sure.

Okay. But still solid movie. I like it. Lance? See, I'm going to disagree with you guys on this one because, I mean, yeah, it's obvious that it wasn't. I mean, it definitely wasn't. I'm with Phil Conjuring 2 is far and away my favorite of the three main ones. I mean, I would consider it kind of like the masterpiece of the three.

The first one was the one where the ghost was like playing knock-knock with the kids in the house, right? Yeah, it was like a couple scenes. Yeah, okay. So I like the first. one, but the second room just kind of blew me away. I think especially because there were so many action scenes, and there were just so many, like, heart-pounding moments in it where, you know, you know they're not going to die, right?

Because obviously she was still alive at 92 years old, so they ain't going to die. Yeah, I don't know, man. See, that was another aspect of the movie. They introduced something as far as his condition. Uh-huh. that I just I mean if that happened okay then I guess you got to put it in there but they just made it seem like it was going to affect an outcome later on in the movie when you knew that wasn't a case okay hmm interesting okay well all right so I I guess that I would say that I really didn't have any parts in this movie that that bored me too much I thought that the I mean, obviously you could tell it was not quite as a talented director, right, that did this one. But, I mean, for crying out loud, when you've got those two actors and they're playing the same parts that they've played in the other two movies,

I think they just kind of took over and made the movie work. And for me, there were a lot of just frightening moments. and I did like the way that they you know that they kind of opened it with you know the action early on and I'm not going to say anything in this part that's not outside of the trailers but I thought the waterbed

scene was pretty terrifying and I thought you got a lot of a lot of history which was pretty cool I don't know man I thought that there was enough in this that kept me kind of on the edge of my seat the whole time I did not like

it as much as the first or the second second one. I would say number two, number one, and then, you know, and then this one. But shit, I mean, I think, you know, let's give this guy a chance to direct some more movies. I think La La La La La La La Laura might have been kind of like where he cut his teeth a little bit. I think I might just, we might just see this guy get better and better as he makes more films. But, you know, I love everything that they put in here. I, you know, I did love the totems. I did love the witchcraft. I did love the the fact that this was the first time ever that someone, you know, stood up,

yeah, you're right, that line was great. We're not spoiling anything because it was in the trailer, but where he said, you know, hey, you know, every time you walk into a court law, you're asked to put your hand on a stack of Bibles and swear that everything you tell is going to be the whole truth. And we accept that as gospel. Why can't we accept the other side, you know, being just as true?

And that was a hell of an argument, you know? And I really did like, the way that they brought the, you know, the other characters in, the priest, the fallen from Grace Priest and stuff like that, and just a lot of characters that I think worked pretty well together. I thought, you know, I thought the acting by everyone was pretty good. And again, I think maybe more of that is a function of, you know, Patrick Wilson and Vera Farminga and less a function of the director, because they were, you know, they probably stepped in at certain points and said, you know, maybe let's not try the shot just like this.

Why don't we try it this way? But the part that I really loved, and again, it's something you saw in the trailer. It's a scene on a cliff. But what you didn't see in the trailer was stuff leading up to that and what she was going through. And we can talk about that in spoilers, but I just found that terrifying. That was a cool scene. I really enjoyed it. I really loved the way that they tied all the conjuring movies together, and they, you know,

they obviously had, you know, certain characters and totems and items from the other movies that made little guest appearances too. And I enjoyed it. I think I might have liked it a little bit more than you guys did. Well, and hate it. I actually thought it was a really good, solid movie. It just, you know, you try to put it up against Conjuring 2 and that's not going to happen. Well, yeah, sure. I mean, it's its own thing, right?

Yeah. So are they going to make more of these with, you know, with these two actors in it, or is this kind of supposed to be like the end of the trilogy to actually have the Warrens in the movie? Do you all know? I mean, I don't want to get spoilery, so. Okay. They are kind of alluding to maybe the couples not really up to it as they were before. sure but I mean you know people get called out of retirement all the time right look at Michael Jordan

after he went to play baseball for two years and um graciously allowed the Rockets to win two championships Brian I got you we still are champions I know I'm a Rockets fan too man um but no I uh I enjoyed it I thought I thought it was a good uh and I didn't go to the theater actually watched it on HBO and, um... Yeah, me too. It's not really one I think you would have had to go to the theater to see, you know? I don't think it was that. Like the Conjuring, too, there were a lot of scenes in that, like, especially, you know,

toward the end there when they were in the house there and a lot of danger and stuff like that and falling out of the window and that type of thing that you didn't quite get that level of thrill in this one, but, um, I don't know. I didn't find any parts of the movie boring. I found it pretty, um, you know, pretty interesting from start to finish. I enjoyed everything about it. All right.

Scores. Brian, what do you think? Right now I'm going to give it a six and a half. Ooh. Lower than I thought, man. Yeah. What I wanted out of it,

what I thought I was going to get out of it, was kind of how I had to bar up high. And then I watched the first two right before I watched this one. So I was wanting something, and I didn't get it. But it's not a bad movie. I mean, I could rewatch it, and my score could go up to a seven. But right now I'm going to have to give it a six and a half. Well, you know, it's on HBO for 28 more days, so we can definitely check it out again, right?

Yep. Yeah, I'll, uh, I'm going to give it an eight. I thought it was pretty good. Nice. Nice. Yeah. I mean, I was listing all my criticisms, but I think it's still pretty solid. It just, yeah, it was kind of a disappointment compared to what I was expecting.

Although still kept me entertained. Was it? Still a good story. Well, yeah. I mean, because, you know, the last one was so great. And, like, where it ranks in the Conjuring universe to me is like Conjuring 2, Conjuring 1, Annabelle 2, and then this one. Yeah.

Okay, that's cool. I think I'm right there with you. Yeah. So, definitely not a bad movie. It just, it doesn't hold up to the to the other two.

Yeah, I was a little, I was a little worried since it was the director of La Girono, which of course we didn't really care for. But like I said, I think the talent and the people that were in the movie kind of made up for it. and I don't know, man, maybe I'm a sucker, but I'll give this one an age.

I really enjoyed it. I don't know if it'll make top 10 of the year because there's so goddamn many good movies that I've already seen this year, but probably get an honorable mention. You know, I would say that it was a fun time at the movie for me. There you go. I kind of feel like I'm going to forget about this movie by then. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, maybe you need to see it again, man. Yeah, maybe.

All right. Let's go spoiler talk. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

All right. What I was alluding to earlier, the whole heart condition thing. Yeah. I knew that wasn't going to play out the way they were alluding to. Yeah, they sort of set it up and then didn't really do much with it. There was a lot of... Except make him old. Yeah, there was a lot of things they did it like that in this movie.

Like the former priest they want to speak to, they really wanted you to think that he had something involved in it. And I was like, they're pushing this a little too hard. How creepy he was behaving and how much he knew, but never really shared with anybody. And I was just like, you're involved, but not the way they making us think you're involved. But I did like the whole aspect of the witchcraft and the curses and the whole setup of this ritual and how it all came together.

I like that whole aspect because you're introducing the investigated part of this, which I wanted more of. I wanted more of that. I wanted more of what was going on in the court, which we didn't really get anything until the end. We got him walking into the courthouse, and then the judge telling him to stand up, and then he looks at the Warrens,

and then it cuts to them saying he got five years for manslaughter. And that was it as far as any court. I wanted to see a little courtroom drama, which I thought that that's where they cut that scene. out, I think. If the scenes in the movie, let us know, but I really felt like they cut that line out where he was talking about

the, you know, swearing on the Bible and disregarding the devil. Right, right. I thought that would have just added more to it, but there were some creepy stuff, though, because I'll still admit when I see some people contorting and the bones cracking and stuff.

Oh, yes. Especially the kid at the beginning, the way he was all twisted up like a pretzel. Right, right. That's hard to watch. So let me ask you guys this. The visual of John Noble standing in front of the house with his briefcase and his suit. Rip off of the Exorcist or homage to the Exorcist? I'm a little homage. Yeah. Because it looked just like that scene, didn't it? Yeah. I think I was part of the point. What did you guys think of the casting of

what's his name, Arnie, Arnie or whatever, the actual killer. He looked pretty fucking creepy to me. Yeah, he looked like he killed somebody before he killed somebody. Yeah, no. When I was watching the trailer, he's like, oh, the devil made me do it, and I'm like, okay. Sure. And I was a little confused when it started,

because I thought he was a part of the family. Right. Yeah. When you find out that he's the boyfriend of the daughter, or the sister and I'm like you're a really nice guy because you're not even married to her but you're going to get involved in their demonic exorcism.

No kidding. I'm like you're you're a good guy, Arnie. Even though you look like you murder 10 people. Yeah. He subscribes to the same drugs as your guy, Lance, because he looked like he needed a nap. That way, didn't he? Well, I imagine a lot of the reason they picked him is because he could do all the contortionist shit at the end.

I guess. I mean, was that real? Was that CGR? Was he really doing that? I don't know if it was him, but I think they may have got somebody else to do it. Oh, maybe. Because I've seen people do that stuff, and it's amazing. Yeah, nothing was too super out of the ordinary there.

Yeah. I love Vera Formida. Oh, sure. She is a vision. I can't wait for her to show up. She's going to be in the new Hawkeye series. Really? Yeah, I can't wait for that.

I wanted more of the Warren's investigating stuff, but as soon as he happened, I'm like, okay, we're not getting none of that because he's going to run around. And he did a good job, though, because he got out to hospital. He looked old as shit. Mm-hmm. Well, anything can happen, right? You know?

If you believe in magic, right? Maybe they can make him de-age and be ready for the next adventure. Well, and, you know, they're older at this point anyway, so I think they sort of made them look a little older, and they did a pretty good job of that. Although it wasn't super obvious, which I didn't mind. It was kind of weird how old they look, because this is supposed to take place four years after,

The Conjuring 2. Well, I thought the Conjuring 2 was in like the 60s. I think I looked at a timeline. I think it was in the 70s. Oh, okay. And this one takes place in like 81 or something like that. Yeah, they aged a whole lot. Right.

But yeah, the way the story, I kind of wish we would have got the one with the story with the wolf, the demon wolf. Yeah. I think that would have been super fucking cool. Maybe that's the next one, man. We'll see. I kind of want to see.

I still want Patrick Wilson and Veriframiga, but I would like to see the Warrens in a series and each episode be a different case. Yeah, that might get old. That might get old pretty quick, though, don't you think? No. You don't think so? Long as it's them, right?

not somebody else? Yeah, I can't. They're the warrants to me, so. Right. Yeah. What did you guys think about ugly naked guy? I'm sorry, I'm watching too much friends. Ugly naked guy.

Was there ugly naked guy? Did I black out? No, the fat, the fat naked. Oh, the more, does the, what do you call a cadaver? Oh, okay. Showed up a couple of times. Yeah, pretty creepy, I guess, right? Yeah, it was creepy enough, I guess, but it wasn't...

Those are the scenes where I was like, we should be terrified right now, and I'm like... Yeah. Oh, hit that fat bitch in a head with a crowbar. Yeah, it just didn't quite capture the magic of the first two movies, did it? Yeah. Yeah, I mean, like I said, there was things to like, like with that scene we were just talking about.

I like the fact that she Lorraine touched the body of the missing girl that they found and she was able to get a look into something but then found out that the witch the link works two ways and she can see what you're looking and I like that whole thing that was that was my favorite parts of the movie

is when she used her power and you saw how much it took out of her and how close to death she came a couple of times Like I said, the scene on the actual cliff was scary, but I thought the really frightening part was like what led up to that, you know, when she was walking through the woods and having the visions and everything. I thought that was just, that was frightening, man. That alone raised the score at least to have a point for me.

She's just such a great actress in this role, man. Yeah. But again, I mean, none of those scenes, like including the waterbed scene, that scene and an ugly naked guy I mean those are really the most terrifying scenes except maybe the end

when the when the witch dies sure that one was pretty cool but it wasn't really even scary because you knew who it was coming for yeah and so like I don't know there wasn't the tension and the dread and the oh my god that is terrifying moment in this movie oh shit I just realized I didn't stick around to see if there was

an after credit scene, was there? I don't think there was. Okay. No, but I think they did show like some real pictures at the end, which I actually do like. I always appreciate it when they do that. Yeah. What the real people look like? Yeah, the Arnie in a movie looks nothing like

the real Arnie. No, he looks like they could have put, what's the dude from stepbrothers? Oh, John C. Riley? Yeah, they could have put him on his role. Oh, man. You look like John C. Riley's younger brother. Yeah.

I'm pretty sure the Wayans brothers are working on a parody right now as we speak for all three of these movies. So rest assured, you'll see it. Yeah, I had to look it up, but the one, the lady that played the occultist, the occultus witch, she was in that movie we reviewed earlier this year, Fear of Rain, the Creepy neighbor. Okay. She's a creepy-looking lady, man. I hate that to be her thing, but it is. She's scary. She's typecast now, so, you know.

Eat a fucking hamburger, lady, you know? Yeah. Doesn't matter. She does or not. All right. She's very tall and slender and creepy-looking. Instead of, maybe she can be in the sequel, Slender Woman. There you go.

All right. You guys ready to call it a show? Yeah. All right. As always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of the horror returns. You can reach us at the horror returns at gmail.com. Philip, by hell or high water, dude, within the next two weekends, dude, we've got to sit down and flesh up this website, man. Eel.

We're going to make it happen. Can I count on you, man? I'm going to do the best I can, dude. We've got baseball and... I know. At least we're done with bands. Yeah, it's, it's hectic. I totally get it, man.

I just don't know where to begin. If you could help me, like, because I know there's a lot of programs out there where you can just drag and drop shit. Yeah, no, we'll find something. We'll make it work. Yeah, we got to make it work, man. It's just good to have one centralized spot, right? Yeah.

All right, so next week we are going to, oh, this is going to be fun. We're going to salute our super patron, Sean Henry. Finally give Sean his commentary. He is going to join us. What's the movie we're going to do, Brian? The Texas Chainsaw Massacre Part 2. Oh, fantastic. So we've got to have a chilly contest, right?

Nice. All right. So until the horror returns again, good night.