The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #269: Exam (2009) & Escape Room: Tournament Of Champions (2021)
Episode Date: July 22, 2021Welcome back to The Horror Returns. This week, we check out Escape Room: Tournament of Champions and Exam. Cool of the week includes Loki, Caddyshack, and Pig. Trailer is Chucky. We shine the podcast ...spotlight on Neon Brainiacs. And we get feedback from Daeron Wilson, Marcey Papandrea, Cameron Sullivan, Heather Powell, Shari Pierre, Steven Lowblad, Josh Youngblood, and Matt Jones. Thanks for listening!
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I'm Lance and with me as always, my co-host, Brian and Philip. How's it going, guys?
It is going.
Bueno.
Philip, appreciate your help with all the electrical work today in the 110-degree sun.
Yeah, no problem. I'm on location today.
Brian, we're praying for some of that Alaska snow right now, man.
It's been sunny here the last few days, so no. No luck on that for me.
must. Is it actually hot up there or just like perfect right now? It's perfect outside, but it is
hot as shit inside my house. Really? Yeah. Yeah. They're well right now. They're not because
we're recording and I have issues with my neighbor. We tend to do things to irritate each other.
Right. That's not great.
It is funny, though.
We need some stories.
Probably more will come soon.
All right.
All right.
You guys ready to jump into Kulu the week?
Yep.
I'll go last.
Yeah, Phillips thinking.
You want to go last?
I'll go.
Yeah, I got a bunch.
Good, good.
Okay.
Oh, I have a couple now.
One, I've got to say, especially since I missed last week's podcast.
Loki is kicking ass, man.
That is a good show.
I'm impressed.
You watched the finale?
Yeah, watch the finale.
I'm finally all the way through it too, Brian, so you can talk.
Well, I don't know if the listeners won't even.
Yeah.
Well, no, no spoilers.
But I liked where it went.
I liked how it ended.
I like that we're going to get more.
They're leaving it open for more.
So that's cool.
Because, yeah, man, this was the Marvel show they needed right now.
now.
We got our big bad for the next phase.
So who is that?
Spoilers.
Anybody don't want to listen to.
Oh, we're sorry.
No, that's not a spoiler.
He was confirmed.
The actor was confirmed to play him
like months ago.
Uh-huh. Okay.
But he is essentially,
without really spoiling it,
he could be a worse villain than Thanos.
Huh.
and with the multiverse, this can go so many different ways.
Okay.
Well, yeah, I'm excited about it.
All right, well, let's, all right, just spoiler for a second.
Who is he supposed to be?
Just spoke for a second.
Kang the Conqueror or?
Kane the Conqueror.
Oh, okay.
He never actually said, he never actually said Kang, but when he said, I know by many names,
they even called me a conqueror.
Oh, that gave, that gave it.
That gave it away, huh?
Yeah.
But like I said, he was the Jonathan, I think it's Jonathan Majors.
He's from Lovecraft Country.
Yeah, he's from Washington, right?
Yeah, he was cast as King the Carpurer because we'll get King.
We'll get him next in the next Ant Man movie.
Okay.
And I heard about that.
That's a few years away, right?
Yeah, I mean, he'll probably pop up more, but the theory is he'll pop up in Ant Man
because he is going, because Ant Man still has.
the technology to go back in time.
Okay.
Oh, that's right. That's right.
It's probably going to not want them to have that technology.
Hmm.
Yeah.
Interesting.
Probably fucks up their little TVA timeline, too.
It's sticking with Marvel.
I have maybe a not-so-cool a week.
Uh-oh.
Of course.
Black Widow, man, was kind of disappointing.
I was disappointed, too.
I rewatched it and I kind of changed my mind on it.
Yeah.
There was some things I had problems with.
Still, everybody don't want to hear spoilers.
Skip ahead a couple minutes.
What they did with Taskmaster, I was a little.
Not that it was a female.
That Joe Biden could have been under the fucking mask all I care.
But the fact that it was.
Brian, you and your politics, you dirty bastard.
I know.
All right.
We're canceled.
You kind of look like it.
It was the fact that I felt like they did their Marvel thing where they just kind of threw away another villain.
Yeah.
But when I rewatched it, they kept saying Taskmaster Protocol.
Oh.
So this isn't this couldn't, this isn't the only taskman.
Multiple characters.
Although, yeah.
And no, I didn't have a problem with that at all.
And I thought it was actually a pretty cool villain.
But I don't know.
It was just really slow.
It was a long movie.
Yeah, it was a long movie.
It had to be two and a half hours, right?
Oh, was it?
Was it two and a half hours?
Yep, two and a half hours.
Yeah, I think the problem, we should have got this movie like five years ago.
Right.
Yeah, then it may have been okay.
Yeah, when it was in the timeline, right?
Yeah, I feel like I've been waiting for it for so long.
And then, like, some of that shit in the trailers that was really cool, wasn't even in the
fucking movie. Yeah, I think we kind of, I think it not coming out when it should have. And then
when they finally were making this movie, we had to wait a year to see it. I think we just
kind of didn't really care by the time it came out. Yeah. Well, yeah, I was, I was watching it
with AJ and she was like super confused. She said, wait a minute, didn't all this shit already
happened? Yeah, it takes, it takes place after Civil War, so. Then it should have come out after
Civil War, right?
Yeah,
go ahead.
I was just saying my wife, my
brother-in-law, and my mom all fell asleep
during it.
I think what Marvel was doing, I think they were
waiting to see because
there wasn't really no female
superhero movies, so I think they were waiting
to see how Wonder Woman did.
And then the first one did good
and they were like...
Makes sense. Well, the first one was good. No, the first one.
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. So after that,
they were like, okay, we can do
female-centric movies.
But there was some good things out of it.
I did like Florence Pugh as her sister.
Yeah, she was actually really cool.
I like that a lot.
I thought David Harper.
David Harper was awesome.
Yeah.
He's a great Russian accent.
He can still be around.
Right.
I was kind of worried there at the end.
I was like, are you just going to kill off everybody?
But he can still be around, I think, with
Yelena, Black Widow sister,
I think the shows
and the movies,
they're setting up the Young Avengers.
Oh, I gotcha.
If you guys, if you finished
the Falcon Winter Soldier, that one guy
that Sam tells him, just go ahead and keep the
wings, the damaged ones.
In the comics, that guy becomes the next
Falcon. Oh, okay.
Huh. Makes sense, I guess, right?
I think they're setting up the Young
Avengers and then with the villains, I think they're going to set up the thunderbolts.
Yeah.
That was just, it was, it was like Thor 2.
Yeah.
Just not as good as the first one.
Phil, I agree with you.
Oh, you got to watch this one and this one and this one.
And you can just skip that one.
Yeah, I agree with you.
Like Thor 2 wasn't necessarily a bad movie, but do you really need to watch it again?
Right.
And do you remember anything from it?
No.
Yeah.
All right.
And then, I think that's, oh, what was that movie we watched last night?
Oh, vicious fun.
Vicious fun.
We liked it, Brian.
It was on Shudder.
Yeah, we checked it out last week, right?
Yeah, I needed a little bit more vicious in my fun, so.
Yeah.
I thought it was good, though.
I'll have to watch it.
I'll have to watch it again, I think.
It had a great cast, too.
I was surprised.
It was very quirky and entertaining.
Could have been funnier.
but there were definitely some really funny moments.
Yeah, I had some good humor in it.
Kind of a horror comedy-ish thing going.
Right.
I don't know, I liked it.
It was very quirky.
Yeah.
I think it's a good word for it.
And then that's all I got.
All right.
Well, Brian, you want to go last.
So I did see Gunpowdered milkshake.
Have you checked that out?
Not yet, but it is on the schedule for action returns,
which I'll have a, when we, when we,
but right before we get in the listener feedback,
I have some updates on the shows and updates on Patreon,
but no,
I haven't seen it yet.
I was kind of,
probably going to get to it this weekend.
I definitely won't give anything away,
but I would say that it's,
um,
it's one of the,
one of the prettier films as far as the cinematography,
the way that it shot.
I thought you were talking about the cast.
Well, yeah,
it's got some pretty big names in it,
but, um,
I don't know, man.
I think the script fell way short,
but I'll let you guys decide for yourselves.
That's all I'll say.
Yeah, I haven't really heard anybody not say anything bad,
but I haven't heard anybody say anything good.
Like, it just kind of came out and saw Netflix, and that's it.
Yep, and I'm sure they spend a ton of money on it for that cast, right?
Well, yeah, I mean, we got, what, Nebula?
Yeah, Nebula.
Angela Bassett
Angela Carla Gugino
Michelle Yao
Queen Saracy
Yep she shows up
Yeah it's worth checking out
Paul Giamati is in it
Did you know that
Isn't he like the bad guy or something
I won't give that away
As long as he doesn't show up in his
stupid as rhino costume
He had an amazing smile
No rhino no rhinocustumes man
That should be what he wears all the time
But I think, again, I checked out Loki and Black Widow too, but I think my cool of the week is going to be very far away from horror.
AJ and I had the house to ourselves Saturday, and we just kind of hung out and watched movies.
And I think we watched Black Widow, and then after that, an 80s, or actually, I think it's 1980, in fact, classic Caddyshack.
You guys remember that?
Oh, yeah.
Who misses 1980, not?
Unpolitically correct comedy.
Just me?
No.
Recently, what did I rewatch?
That you definitely can't have that.
Eddie Murphy's Raw.
Yes, definitely.
He cannot say those jokes.
Yes.
There's a lot of people that can't say a lot of jokes now.
Philip, you and I watched Raw the other night, didn't we?
Like, around Christmas or something?
I think so.
Oh, yeah.
I remember turning that one on.
I've seen that one a bunch.
That's a good.
That is a great.
stand up. Yeah. It's one of my favorites.
All right. Cool of the week. Candy Shack, Brian, take it away.
All right. Did I see some good stuff this week? That is the question every week.
First one.
It's got to be good. How many of them are there? 15?
I'm going to say eight, nine. I think I got in this week. Let us end.
Let us in. I will put in the category of if you're introducing your kids
to horror movies.
Okay.
This has to do with the urban legend of the black-eyed kids.
Which I had to look this up.
Not to be confused of the black-eyed peas.
No, no, no.
Okay.
What are the black-eyed kids?
Is that a thing?
Yeah, I'd never heard of it, and I looked it up.
It actually is like an urban legend that some believe is linked to, like, aliens, abducting people.
Oh, okay.
They take the form of children between the aliens.
ages of six and 16.
And they're like pale white skin and they just have like where their eyes are supposed to be.
It's just black.
And I guess they kind of roam around the streets at night and people kind of, you know,
you see a child that are walking around alone.
You want to go see what's wrong.
And I guess that's when they get you.
That's when they attack.
See, I thought it was aliens from the trailer.
Yeah, I looked at it up.
there's a lot of people that
claim to have seen them
and a lot of people linked it to
alien deduction and stuff like that.
The movie necessarily wasn't great.
It was kind of boring.
Tell it like it is, Brian.
I think it's not
terrible, but I think if you watch it
with your kids, I think you'll probably
enjoy it better because
there's children in it
between the ages of like
10 and 12, 13.
So there's a lot of
kid conversations, I was just kind of like, okay, you're kind of taking me out of this.
I got you.
But not the Psychogorman quality of kid conversations, right?
No, no.
If you put that little girl in this movie, I probably would have paid attention more.
You put her character in this movie.
Me, me, me.
Yes, me, me, and whatever her brother's name, that psycho-cler.
A little obnoxious, but she pulls it off.
Tobin Bell does show up in the movie.
He did collect a paycheck for his 10 minutes he was in the movie.
Kind of like vicious fun where the quicker the characters got killed off,
you could calculate how many days they got paid for.
Like David Kester was out first.
Yeah, I was going to say he was probably,
that was probably the guy that cost the most out of everybody.
Oh, yeah, for sure.
He got paid for his day.
of shooting so
next up
is a movie that when I posted
I watched this like especially
on Twitter it was like I was getting
like a whole bunch of likes on it
and it's a decent kind of horror comedy
slash who done it
type of movie and that's a werewolves
within. Ah, I've heard of that one.
A brand new movie, right? Yeah, I think
okay, no, just give me a second to explain Lance.
I think the people that made
scare me were involved in this and I would say this movie I could be wrong but if it is
this movie is way above scare me yeah that was on my bottom 10 last year yeah this one I don't
know if it would be in my top 10 but it was a decent I think what I appreciated more was the
whodunit because they get they're essentially barricaded themselves into this house
because it's a snowstorm outside.
And people are kind of getting picked off one by one,
and you're just kind of trying to figure out who the spoiler,
werewolf is.
Is it Zavev?
So I do kind of recommend it if you like whodunit's with a little bit of
werewolf genre mixed in.
I do kind of recommend people check this one out.
Nice.
All right.
Yeah, it's on my list to watch.
Is it streaming anywhere?
Yes.
If you can find it.
Ah, I get you.
You have to solve the who-done-it.
Yes, so where it's streaming.
Gotcha.
Next one I watched is a thriller titled Till Death,
starring Megan Fox.
I heard about this one where she's laying on the ice or something,
and her hand is, like, touching somebody that's under the ice, maybe,
like in the water?
That comes later.
Essentially, she is...
That is not where I wanted that sentence to go.
Yes.
That's not where you want her hand to be touching.
But it's not that kind of movie.
Go on.
Somebody under the ice.
Yeah.
She goes to a lakehouse with her husband, who you can already tell is kind of abusive and controlling.
Right.
They wake up the next day, and she is handcuffed to him.
Oh.
And he kills himself.
She's handcuffed to a dead body.
Yeah, and he kind of sets it up to where he, mind of spoilers.
He kind of sets it up throughout the house like he takes all the knives out.
So he makes it so she can't cut herself loose.
And there's kind of a reason why he did it.
And then on top of that, there is somebody trying to break into the house,
which is kind of a twisty terny.
Huh.
It's not bad.
It's not bad, but it's not great.
Like a one last fuck you on the way out.
Yeah, pretty much.
She's not bad in it.
I, you know, I actually don't think she's a bad actress.
I just don't think she needs to be the star of something
or carry a big budget movie.
She's kind of just fine doing these kind of movies.
Yeah, she's good eye candy.
Yeah, especially.
I didn't realize how old she is now.
So,
salute to Machine Gun Kelly
because that's his woman now.
Is it?
Yeah, and I heard her like kind of.
That's kind of cool because I think I like that guy.
Yeah, I think he's super talented.
Yeah.
And they're kind of, I like their relationship.
I read they just took a trip to South America to do the whole ayahuasca thing.
Oh, cool.
If I could sign me up.
You were just talking about that film.
Oh, that's one of my, that's on my bucket list.
All right, let's see.
The eighth night on Netflix, you can skip this one.
I'm not even going to tell you.
The eighth night.
Yeah, it's a prequel to the green night?
No, if I wish it was, because then it would have been more interesting.
I couldn't even really tell you what the movie was about accurately.
I was so checked out of it and bored.
Ah, that's pretty. Sounds.
Another one that I was kind of bored that came on Netflix, a classic horror story.
Oh, no.
I really liked what they were trying to do.
I thought it was going to be a little bit more violent and gory.
And I would have to honestly say, I had to honestly say I was bored, and I can't recommend this one either.
Too bad. Too bad. I didn't even know it was out yet.
Yeah, it came out Friday.
Okay.
Checked out the first two episodes of American Horror Stories.
I will kind of save my ideas on that one.
I'll talk about it when we get to Patreon News.
Okay.
And what else?
What else?
What else?
Fear Street, 1666.
Oh, yeah.
I watched the first run.
They saved the worst one for last.
Oh, no. God damn it.
I was pretty impressed with the first one. It wasn't bad.
First one is definitely the best.
Ah, shit.
Second one.
Second one, I liked the second one because of all the kind of references to the classic camp slasher movies and stuff like that.
And the 70s setting.
So I enjoyed that one.
This one I was looking forward to because of the whole being a period piece and you're going to kind of kind of
understand what the curse is about
it's fucking bored
oh man
that's too bad
that's too bad they ended on a
on a fizzle out huh
yeah yeah it kind of like if I had to rank
them I would definitely rank them on the order
they came out so okay
maybe I'll just watch the first one
then and quit
first one's worth it
yeah I think Lance you're
you're on the rabbit hole
to hear the whole story
ah okay they're that linked
then.
Yeah.
All right.
Fair enough.
And lastly,
uh,
today,
earlier today I got to check out
Pig with, uh,
Nicholas Coole.
Oh,
yes.
I'm going to go see that in the theater this week.
No.
Okay.
I'm,
I'm gonna be honest with everybody.
I really,
really enjoyed this movie.
Yeah?
I will let people know.
It's not what you think it is.
I'll tell,
I'll tell you right now.
I don't.
How can it not be?
It's not a,
it's not a,
Hunter looking for his pig.
Yeah, but it's not a revenge film.
What?
It's a movie about love.
It's a movie about loss.
You kind of find out with, and this is one thing I really enjoyed about the movie is you kind of find out why he became basically a hermit living out in the woods by himself.
Without them straight up telling you why or having a whole bunch of flashbacks, you kind of piece together the, you know, the picture.
So a little deeper than expected.
Yeah.
Because, I mean, it is kind of like the same thing, you know, with John Wick.
The puppy was much more than a puppy.
And there was reasons of why, you know, he's basically flipping out over losing his pig.
But if you're going in thinking this is just Nick Cage fucking losing it and it's a revenge, but it is not.
But it is beautifully shot well.
So this is actually your cool of the week.
Yeah, I'm going to say it's my cool of the week.
There was just stuff in it that I just was like, I was like, fuck yeah, Nick Cage, you tell him.
There was a scene where he's going to this restaurant question and the chef and his, who he used to be, like his name holds so well with everybody as soon as they find out his name and who he is, like he just gets that respect.
So are you thinking Nick Cage's second?
an Oscar, perhaps? No, they're not. Okay. All right. I mean, it would be awesome. I went a little
overboard there, huh? Yeah. The scene, he's just questioning the guy, because the guy knows
some people that might have took the pig. Right. And he just, he's like, you don't want to piss
these people off. And then Nick Cage is just like, why are you doing this? And he's like,
well, I have a business to run. I got this restaurant. And then he's just like, telling him,
like, why do you have this restaurant? It's not real. Like, the critics,
aren't real, the customers aren't real.
You know, this is not the kind of restaurant you
want. You're just doing it
because it's good business.
And he was just kind of dropping
facts throughout the movie, and, you know,
he's just kind of looking for this pig,
and he's just telling everybody, you know,
there's just a few things in life that we really
get to care about.
And then you kind of
find out more of his backstory than
Alex Wolfe from Hereditary's in it,
and he's kind of got a backstory.
This is not what I was
expecting to hear.
It's more of, Lance, it's more of a drama, but I enjoyed it.
And it's, it's only like an hour and a half too, unlike, like you guys said, Black Widow being two and a half hours.
Yeah, it was unnecessary.
Great, great movie from Nick Cage.
All right.
I think that guy, that guy just for the past few years has just been hitting him out of the park with me.
Really?
Seriously.
I know.
That's what I'm saying.
Somebody was talking shit about Nick Cage the other day.
I think it was more brother-in-law.
Was it?
Yeah, other one of the fucking 15 them.
And he was like, oh, yeah, you know, like Nick Cage when he just started doing shit for the paycheck.
I was like, well, yeah, he went through that phase.
But the last shit he's done has been amazing.
Oh, yeah.
Well, that was when he was broke.
So he had to do things for the paycheck.
Now I think he's just doing it.
You tax his kids.
Yeah, I think now I feel like he's doing it for the art.
Yes.
I think that's exactly.
what he's doing.
Very much making it.
Because I think he, I want to say he came out and said he's not really interested in doing any, like, big, big budget movies.
I mean, he did the Into the Spiderverse because he's a super big comic book fan.
Okay.
But I think, I think, like, what he's been doing for the past few years, that that is, like, his interest now.
Yeah.
And I don't make sense.
I like it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
So, yeah.
You said, you said you watched, uh, Gaia at one point.
too, right?
Yep.
What was it that you said about that one?
It looked great.
Everybody acted well in it.
I liked the explanation of what was going on.
And yeah, that one I recommend checking out, too.
That one's kind of a slow burn, too.
It is.
That was my, because I watched that one.
I forgot because I haven't had a cool week.
Oh, you did watch it?
Yeah, so I checked out Gaia.
I need to catch up on movies, guys.
It's a pretty trippy movie.
Yeah.
Those fungus people were creepy looking.
It was a cool way of looking at things.
They kind of created this world.
And it was a fun idea, I think.
It was just brought on very slowly.
Slow burn, huh?
Oh, yeah.
That can be good, though.
Like a Thai West fella or something.
Oh, real quick.
You guys ever see the movie Blind Spotting that came out a couple of years ago?
Yeah, I think so. It sounds familiar.
Is that the one that's in Oakland or whatever?
Yeah, yes.
Okay, yeah.
About gentrification.
Yeah, it has a series now that is on Stars.
Fantastic.
Yeah?
Yeah, I think there's about seven episodes out right now, and I kind of went through the first seven in like two days.
Damn.
Great acting, great story, and it is connected to the movies.
A lot of the same actors.
are basically all the same actors
are from the movie or in the show.
Oh, shit.
How often does something like that happen?
Almost never, right?
Yeah, and the only one that's not in it
was the main star from the movie,
but he is referenced in the show
of why he's not there.
And then when the credits roll,
you see that he is a creator
and a producer for the show.
So he's definitely not ruled out of showing up.
Gotcha.
kept the same team together.
That's cool.
And what network is that on?
Stars.
Stars.
Okay, cool.
Yeah, Stars has some cool stuff, man.
Yeah, I've been kind of trying to go through these shows that I've been kind of putting in my queue and just not getting to.
And I've been, yeah, it kind of pisses you off because there's so much good TV there.
And it's just how can you get to it all?
How do you get to it all?
TVs and movies, right?
Yeah, well, movies is.
my cool of the week every week my my movie's kind of very i don't know if they're good or not but
tv shows has been knocking them out of park i would say though yeah it's just so hard to get
involved in a tv show sometimes is it i don't know for me like i'm looking for just a movie to watch
i don't want to get invested and stay up on night yeah that that is a problem especially if you
tell yourself just one more episode yeah and then something happens at the episode and then you're
okay one more after this yeah
Yeah.
If it's done well.
Yeah, definitely.
So, yeah, that's it for me.
All right.
So, Pig, cool of the week, huh?
Yes, sir.
All right, I'm going to check it.
I don't know it was out.
I got to watch it.
I'm going to check it at the theater this week, man.
It's in one theater, one AMC theater in Houston.
Yeah, so they have a whole lot of screens,
so they show a lot of the art house movies there.
That's cool.
So I'll go check it out.
All right, so moving on.
Brian, you got any horror headlines for us?
let me see because it has been a slow week
I don't know
it seems like we'll have multiple slow weeks
and one real big week of news
and then it'll just go back
uh
so it's the fourth of July man
yeah some of this might not be
horror news but I'll just throw it in there
the Continental
the series uh spin off from
John Wick
oh yeah
is that finally coming out
yep it
will officially, it was announced.
It will be a prequel series, and it'll be a three-part event series.
So not really like a 10 or 13 episode series then?
Yeah, so.
More like Fear Street.
Is Keanu Reeves in it?
I read that he's not been cast in it, but the creators said don't rule out a cameo.
Well, if it's a prequel...
If it's a prequel, he's probably the legendary.
Yeah.
So they probably talk about him a lot, but he doesn't show up until, like, one episode or something.
Yeah, the very end, right?
I think it'll be, of course, about, like, other assassins in the Continental.
And then they'll probably have a scene where they'll talk about John Wick and somebody will say something.
And they'll be like, but it's John Wick.
And they'll be like, oh, I didn't know who was John Wick.
That guy fucking killed him.
He'll be a subject.
Yeah.
Let's see here.
We will talk about that in trailers.
I honestly don't think there's,
you guys ever go to Universal Studios
Halloween Horror Nights, I think it's called?
No, that sounds interesting.
Six Flags has something kind of like that.
Yeah, this year, Universal Studios
announced new mazes for their Halloween horror nights,
and it will be
one will be based on Netflix
as the haunting of Hill House
Oh, interesting
Another one will be
The Bride of Frankenstein lives
And the other one announced
Was the Texas Transaw Massacre
Dude, I'm gonna say it
I think Universal is better than Disney
That's been so long since I've been to either
So yeah I know
And they always change it day by day
So I could be totally wrong about that
but that sounds like a really cool thing.
A haunted house based on the Hill House?
And who else could do that except Universal?
That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
But Six Flags, they do like big Halloween mazes and stuff and haunted houses.
Fright Fest.
There you go.
Big difference, though, right?
Yeah, it's pretty cool, but it's probably not near at the same level of production as this.
I would imagine.
This next news is something people can go to our social media and see.
but I posted the floor plans for Rob Zombies, The Monsters.
Oh, I saw that, yeah.
That is one thing that kind of gets me excited because he's such a fan of the show.
It looks like a blueprint.
Yeah, he's recreating the actual house.
They're building it from scratch.
That's cool.
Wow.
Okay.
And he's been posting a lot of costume designs, too, and it looks very faithful.
to the show. You know what?
Even though zombies directing it, I'll bet he doesn't
have all the white trash
and fuck you and cock sucker.
Oh, yeah. I hope not.
You know what I mean? No, I'm pretty sure he's going to stay true
to the monsters, man. There's a part of me
that kind of wants to hear.
There's a little piece
where maybe that would work.
Grandpa.
Grandpa.
Man, if the, I don't know the actor's name,
but the actor that played Grandpa
in the House of a Thousand Corpses,
Yeah.
If he was Grandpa Monster.
Is he still alive, Brian?
I think he passed.
Okay, well, that can't happen.
CGI.
CGI.
Yeah, I want to say he passed before the devil's rejects.
That's why they didn't even mention him.
Ah, yeah.
I imagine Rob Zalby's friends live a hard life.
Oh, yeah.
Lots of drug, sex, and rock and roll, right?
Yeah, there you go.
We'll probably get a trailer for Evil Dead Rye soon because the director Lee Cronin says they are more than halfway done filming the movie already.
Okay.
We have some Evil Dead news, Brian.
Still no Ash?
He's a producer still.
He's doing his producer thing where he's kind of leaking a little bit of news here and there.
But it's not ruled out.
It's not a remake.
So it is in the same universe.
Well, speaking of Evil Dead, I'm going to chime in here real quick.
Friend of the show, Patrick Lear, went to a horror convention today and met the beautiful Dana DeLorenzo.
Is that name Ring a Bell?
A little bit.
Yeah, she was in Ash versus the Evil Dead, and could be having an interview coming up, actually.
Oh, her.
Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes.
She seems like a cool person.
Yeah, and I think we have a sound bite
on route for the show.
Nice.
Oh, do we have any more news?
I might just end it there because...
I can't wait to talk about the trailer.
All right.
I mean, this is Chucky.
Chuckie's back.
Fuck this Child's Play.
Nez, fuck you, Nez.
Fuck you, man.
You said this new Childs Play movie was
hella good and awesome.
Fuck you, Nez. You don't know what you're talking about, dude.
A robot Chucky is not my Chucky, period.
This is my Chucky.
Even though we only got five seconds in this trailer,
I mean, you can tell this is going to get back to basics,
Chucky, man.
Yeah.
All right. Let me read a synopsis of what the series is going for.
It's our trailer is Chuckie, by the way.
Yes, yes, Chucky.
Nobody knew from Lance's example.
excitement, which I believe somebody commented on your excitement.
I think it was Stephen Loveland.
He says he knows you're excited for this.
Stephen knows me well.
All right.
Synopsis.
After a vintage,
Chucky doll turns up at a suburban yard sale.
An idyllic American town is thrown into chaos as a series of horrifying murders
begin to expose the town's hypocrisy's.
And secure, sorry, kind of cuts off there.
I've heard enough.
Secrets.
Okay, that's all I need.
So it kind of seems like they're going with,
there's more to this town than just a killer doll on the loose.
Ah, okay.
And a few cast people.
Christine Elise, she was Kyle in Childs Play 2.
she is uh yeah so kyle was back um Jennifer Tilly yeah oh wow yeah this is going to be amazing
Hunter Dunbar himself devonsarise in this are you serious well soul who is he gonna play
oh no he he was cast and uh is moose gonna be in it you know what this will be my number one show
before it even comes out if moose shows up and gets a chucky doll if moose
Moose has to go to battle with Chuck.
Oh, my God.
Not to battle with him.
Moose is the kid that picks up Chuckie.
How great would that movie be?
That would be amazing.
But I also want to see older moose.
Yeah.
With one eye and missing fingers.
Oh, so you're talking after the movie.
No, even that.
You can pick up a Chucky doll.
Yeah, that's true.
Because he's kind of still mentally a kid, right?
It's his only friend.
But see, Moose is the only one.
See, we're writing a whole.
new movie. Moose is the only one
that can battle, Chuckie, because
Moose is such a horror fan.
Ah, that's right.
So he knows the rules
like scream. He'll even have
to wear his special little horror shirt that he
had when he was going to go meet Hunter Dunbar.
Right. And it's not
Hunter Dummy Bar. He puts some
respect on his name. That guy
was in awesome movies that
we never got the titles of, really.
Let's see.
A Viscuit fan, though, for sure.
Yeah, Brad Duroff, of course, is returning as the voice of Chucky.
Fiona Duros is returning.
Do what?
Fiona Deroff is also returning, because if you guys remember, this is supposed to be a continuation from the last movies.
As well, it should be, right?
Yeah.
And Lance, your boy.
Alex Vincent.
Yes.
Maybe he'll give us a soundbite this time.
Probably not.
The picture.
I'm fine.
Sorry, Alex.
We got in pretty cool with pretty much everybody else, so I'll take it.
I'll pretend I'm Andy and give us a sound bite, so.
There you go.
I don't think you sound like Andy, right?
Get moose to give us a sound bite.
Yeah.
Probably would before Alex would.
This is course created by Don Mancini, so that's why we've got so much going on from the movies.
Not the Childs Play movies because he does not own that name.
But he's, yeah, Mancini's going to handle this perfectly.
And so he's the showrunner?
Is he going to write all the episodes?
Do you know yet?
I know he's the creator.
I'm going to see if he's directing.
He is directing an episode.
Okay.
This is that shit he was talking about years ago.
Yep.
Yep.
When we were at front.
Pretty cool.
Finally got there.
It took a while.
but it's coming.
Cope, it's a bitch.
Yeah, and I think it was also
securing a network.
Ah, okay.
This will be kind of like the Purge
series that came out on sci-fi
and USA. That's how this
will come out. I'm all in, man.
I'm paying, I'm the one sucker
of the three of us that pays for literally
everything, so I have full cable.
I have every single channel.
Ah, it doesn't mean, I'm watching.
So, I'm in.
October 12.
You're going to find a way anyway, huh, Phil?
Oh, yeah, I'll check it out.
Oh, at least you'll find a way.
So it's kind of a Halloween season.
Where there's a fill, there's a way.
Yes.
That's what I always say.
Put that on another t-shirt.
Okay.
So far, we got the horror returns.
We don't know horror.
Right.
And we got put that.
What was it?
What did you just say?
Oh, where there's a fill, there's a way.
All right.
Got to have your face on there, too.
We're going to have to get with T Publ because I'm tired of waiting.
That sounds great.
I'm tired of waiting for AJ.
You ever see Steve-O's tattoo on his back or it's just his face doing a thumbs up?
Yeah, yeah.
Put your face.
That's exactly what I was thinking.
Yeah.
Face two thumbs up where there's a Phil, there's a way.
Will you do it, Phil?
Oh, absolutely.
You're in?
That sounds like a really cool T-shirt.
See, now we got with the original logo T-shirt, our new logo.
t-shirt, the
We Don't Know Horror, and when there's a
Phil, there's a way. See, we're building
up our merch.
Wow. I got to drop a couple pounds
for the photo shoot. Let's do it.
We got to make this happen.
Here, have another bill.
Have another beer, Phil.
I'm on my way.
All right. That is
it for the trailer. Sorry, guys.
That was the
best thing I could find was a little
teaser for Chuckie.
I'm happy, dude.
Just that the TV show's coming out, and it's going to be our real Chucky.
And it's going to be what we heard about talked about at Frightmare three fucking years ago.
Yeah, I'm really happy that he was able to get it off the ground.
Yeah.
Well, not long, but on.
All right.
Before we get into listener feedback, I have some announcements here.
Okay.
Nice.
So, uh, update on the action returns.
and stream fiends.
We've talked about
Neza's situation
with the fires out there
affected his internet.
So we're not done.
We're just on
hiatus right now.
So we will be back.
They literally burn
through the fiber optic cable.
Yeah.
So that's how bad the cars were.
Act is bad, bro.
We will be back.
Wrestling returns will be back.
I have a couple ideas
for that show too.
So we'll be back.
Patreon News
going to be starting a new tier system
I'm going to announce some things right now
the $1 tier
you will get a shout out on the show
and a thank you for the support
and you'll have access
to exclusive content
that I believe Lance and I will be doing
Hannibal
yeah we'll start we're going to
start with that.
Cool.
And Nez and I will be doing the new American Horror Stories.
Ah, and then I think we need to have a sitcom called where there's a fill, there's a way.
Yes.
So with the dollar, you will definitely get our thanks on the show and you will have access to exclusive content that you can only hear on Patreon.
I'd buy that for a dollar.
Tier two will be the $3 tier.
this is our you
you can pick any two movies
for us to review on an episode
that can be any movies and of course
if you've heard our show before
we've actually reviewed
any kind of movie
somebody's gonna pick porn
I was just gonna say that
was the one thing we didn't review yet
but if you pick it you just said yet
if you pick it
we have to
well we've already done rom-coms right
yeah
and more on the way with Ness's picks, I think.
Yeah, I've seen his picks, one of them I'm not too happy about.
But we'll get there.
That's a strange cat, man.
I appreciate you.
Tier three will be our $5 tier.
This will be our commentary tier.
And you are definitely welcome to come on.
This is, again, you can pick any movie for us to do a commentary on, and it will be an official episode to be put out on our main feed.
And tier four, we will be getting our T-shirts up with T-Public, I believe.
That's what we're going with Lance, right?
We're going to have to, man.
We're going to have to.
Like I said, I'm tired of waiting for the wife.
Tier four will get you everything in the previous tiers.
Oh, I forgot to mention.
Every time you get a tier above the next one, you get everything.
So tier four, you get everything from the previous three tiers plus a T-shirt.
Backwards compatible.
Yes.
Gotcha.
So definitely.
We're going to start making this patron, Patreon work for not only us, but for the people that are definitely gracious enough to support our show.
Well, and then we can invest back into the show so that we don't sound like idiots every day.
Which, I mean, of course we still will.
But you higher quality idiots.
It's kind of our genre.
I mean, cool.
We don't know horror from...
We really...
I'm still stuck on that.
We really didn't know who started the purge.
That really was...
Ask Darren.
Yeah, listener feedback was like...
He was letting us know that the founding fathers started.
And I was like, I knew that.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
So we didn't know that.
Oh, we should have known that.
Oh, we should have known that.
Oh, no, dude, you can leave me out of that bullshit.
Horror trivia is not where I live.
That just sounds like something I would have said, oh, it was the founding fathers.
Right.
The reality is.
Instead of, I don't know.
You see what happened was.
But that's the announcement for Patreon.
Those changes are coming soon.
And action returns, stream fiends, wrestling returns, bonus episodes, everything will be back when we are able to do them.
They're not done.
So.
So fuck yeah, sign up for Patreon.
We ain't fucking around no more.
Nope.
All right.
All right.
Listener feedback.
On the listener feedback.
This week, the podcast spotlight.
I have a problem with that word.
Every time.
And you're the one who says it every fucking week, man.
Jesus Christ.
The podcast spotlight shines on neon brainiacs.
Neon Brainiacs is an 80s horror podcast with host Ben and Greg.
From the biggest blockbusters to the most obscured.
shot on video deep cuts.
No stone is left unturned
regarding the 80s horror.
Even pornos?
Even porno.
80s pornoes?
You got to have some badass
mustaches, right?
Who wants a mustache ride?
Do what, Brian?
I've been listening to this show
and I haven't heard any porn, but
congratulations. They just
had their 200 episode.
Nice.
And they reviewed
the Burbs.
Fantastic movie.
Is that horror, though?
Good movie.
It's more comedy.
Okay. All right. Fair enough. I love that one. But yeah, look forward everywhere. Podcasts are found. Neon Brainiacs. Good show.
Real quick. Also, I want to say congratulations to the podcast that wouldn't die. They also are celebrating their 100 episode.
Ah, they won't die.
They wouldn't die.
I remember those were milestones we hit that we just kind of didn't celebrate.
Yeah.
It's another, another episode for us.
Just another day.
Yeah.
Regarding the amusement park again, we're talking about this fucking...
Oh, shit. Come on, man, again.
Returns.
This better be bead.
No, it's Darren Wilson.
Oh, he's going to correct us on something.
Watch.
He says, I haven't watched it yet, but hearing the beginning of your thing talking about the amusement park and elder abuse,
Uh, wasn't that made originally in the late 60s, early 70s, during or just after the old
Americans act was making its way through the Congress and getting signed.
Hmm.
Uh, that was 65 or 66 signed by Johnson.
Damn, that's even before I was born.
That's, that's why I love Darren.
There you go.
He's not only educating us, but he's educating the listeners.
There you go.
Definitely educating me because, uh, my answer to that was, I have no fucking idea.
well we don't know horror and i guess elder abuse laws or i don't yeah well i mean you know before my time
but yeah yeah i don't i don't remember that ever being a thing i don't know why i don't know why
romero made this fucking movie he was he was contracted or not contracted he was uh paid to do it
and then they seen what he made and they was like this isn't what we wanted
And I'm just kind of like...
It's supposed to be a public service announcement.
Yeah.
You get someone that makes those.
You don't get someone that kind of started the zombie genre, you know?
Yeah, he's like, although people are zombies, huh?
That would have been more interesting.
Right, that's what I was saying.
He could have gone crazier with it and made it pretty good.
That would be more interesting.
Yeah.
But still had the same message, I think.
Like we're all zombies for having to get credit.
We're all zombies for having people.
fix up our houses. We're all zombies for having to pay people to take care of us.
Well, no, I mean, he was because it was about like elder stuff. And so, I mean, he, he did kind
make a good point. I see where that happens where, you know, like, you get really old and
suddenly you just get dismissed. Yeah. But mostly, it's because you can't remember who your kids are.
Or maybe sometimes who you are. Yeah. I'm already there, dude. Yeah, I think, I think when we just,
we heard who directed it, we. Yeah, we expected it. Our mind.
went somewhere else.
Yeah. No, it definitely did not go there.
I mean, you could make a badass horror movie in the amusement park. Am I right?
What the fucking poster was amazing.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
That's not what we got.
What are you going to do?
But there's your history lesson, guys.
It came from some whatever was popular during that era.
Regarding last week's show, hey, everyone, if you haven't had a chance to watch yet,
Make sure to check out our head honcho Marcy Pupandria's latest guest appearance on the new episode of our good friends.
The Horror Returns.
You don't want to miss listening to this one.
Oh, yeah.
That's awesome.
I am so mad that I missed that show, guys.
I'm sorry.
I had some family down.
And Marcy, I apologize to you because I really wanted to hang out and talk to you.
Next time.
Next time.
I had seen my mom in like six months.
All right.
I've seen my mom in like 10 years.
Well, you're in fucking Alaska, dude.
That's your own fault.
Where's your mom, Brazil?
I don't know.
Houston?
Although, to be fair.
Not close with my mom.
I was just joking.
I have no idea where she's at.
Well, then that was a shitty joke on my part.
I apologize.
No, it's funny.
Let me find that edit, but what's the timestamp here?
No, leave it in.
I'm sure she's fine.
I love you, mom, wherever you're at.
She's probably listening, right?
now. I mean, who doesn't? I mean...
That's my son. He's a big podcast
a star. Why was Brian's mother
have an Italian accent? That's what I was going to have. My mom's Korean, so
something's not right. Something changed
since I've seen her. Hey, listen,
trust me, the Italian accent was going to be better than the
Korean one. Let's move on.
Lance, I'm still waiting on a proper
Australian accent from you.
Still little British.
Still a little British.
It puts some shrimp on the barbie.
Still a little British.
That's pretty British.
I got to fall into it.
I can't just do it on the...
Put some shrimp on the barber.
What the fuck?
Mentally challenged.
All right, we're getting off the rails now
because I don't know what accent that was.
Irish stripper.
So yeah.
Sorry, Marcy, I missed.
And big news are really good friends.
Cameron Sullivan and Heather Powell,
both brought it to our attention that we,
along with horror for dummies,
both made Beadspot.com's 2021 list of the top 70 horror podcast
you must follow in 2021.
Damn.
How fucking awesome is that?
That's humble.
That's fucking humbling.
Yeah.
We just got done talking about how we don't know horror, but we don't deserve to be on any list, man.
We're on a list where people should follow us.
You guys do.
Y'all are really fucking smart on this.
I'm surprised that you didn't nail the trivia.
I'm the fucking moron.
I think we knew it, Brian.
We just didn't, it didn't pop into our head at that time.
Yeah.
That seems to happen a lot.
Put it on the spot.
Yeah.
So, yeah, super humbled by that.
That is really fucking awesome.
So yeah, go to feedspot.com, man.
Check out their stuff.
Yeah, and I checked out the list.
I recognized some of the podcasts on there.
Yeah, several.
It's number one.
Yeah, truly an honor to be on the list with those podcasts.
Yeah.
And, in my opinion, horror for dummies should be ranked higher.
Oh, yeah.
Number one, right?
And then lower it up should be number two.
Yeah.
I'm fine with our 30s.
Speaking of Australian accents, Tim.
Help us out, yeah, might.
Am I getting closer?
You're doing okay.
I don't know.
Maddie fulpens.
Oh, wait.
Never mind.
Is she Australia?
That was British.
That's totally British.
It takes place in London.
London Town.
All right.
the city of dreams
somewhere Matt
Matt is like what the fuck is going on right now
Hollywood London town
the city of dreams
now you're doing moose
doing a British accent
doing moose doing a British accent
yeah that sounds about right
there you go that was that was a good
description of that
all right
regarding the upcoming movie old
it's directed by George Romero
no I'm kidding
Um,
Um,
uh,
uh,
Sheree Pierre says,
uh,
I'm excited about this one too.
Yeah,
we're going to review it next week,
right,
Brian?
Yeah.
Yep.
I am also excited.
And I think there's,
I'm,
I think I've almost confirmed
there's going to be a scene in it
where I'm going to feel very fucking weird and creepy.
Uh,
when the little girl gets pregnant.
Yeah,
because I'm like,
who the fuck did that?
Yeah.
I think I might even get upset.
that.
You think it's going to be the brother?
No, I think it's one of the other kids.
I think one of the adults, and I think I'm going to get fucking hella angry.
And every time, if it is one of the adults, every time I see that actor, I'm always going to go back to.
But you fucking did to that little kid in that movie.
Yeah, but the little kid looked like she was 25 in the scene.
So, you know.
Yeah, but you're there.
You know.
No, she's not.
And he's an actor.
That's what they do, huh?
Well, I'm just cute.
After Penelope Cruz was in Blow,
I hate her
every time I see her.
I had a lot of trouble with Patrick Wilson
after Hard Candy.
Yeah.
A lot of trouble.
He's finally won me over
with The Conjuring movies,
but God damn, I fucking hated him for a while.
Yeah.
Credit to the actors, though.
Yeah.
No kidding.
Well, the kid he plays,
the kid who plays, uh, the kid who
played Joffrey in Game of Thrones. He can't get work now.
Yeah, that makes sense. Nobody will fucking hire him.
Because as soon as he walks in, they look at him and they're like, you're like, you little fuck, get out of my office.
Move this man.
Yeah, he played a very good, shitty character. I think I hate that guy.
And he was so young at the time playing that character.
Yeah.
I think, the same as that kid in Harry Potter.
or that blonde kid?
I haven't seen any of the Harry Potter.
Oh, okay.
Well, I've seen a couple of, but...
I was kind of looked like Joffrey, but not quite as much of an asshole.
They didn't really go anywhere.
I mean, besides, what's his name?
I just call him Harry Potter.
Yeah.
He made a career for himself, because I think he kind of went the Elijah Wood route.
Yes.
And shows like interesting roles.
The red-haired kid is in a servant, the M-night TV show.
Yeah, but what was he in before then?
Not much.
well and uh her money is done a lot right yeah she was in the end of the world movie that they made the
Seth Rovey thing whatever for five minutes
Jeff Green Seth Rogen Seth
Oh when she thought they was all gonna rape her
Yeah but who guys are discussing who's gonna rape me first
Which Seth was it that did that movie
Rogan?
Seth Rogen
Oh this is the end
Yeah I was the chicken Seth Green
Best character name
Danny McRide
Yes, he's the best character in a lot of movies
He had Channing Tatum as his little gimp
Yeah
That's a great fucking movie
We need to review that way
Yeah, we got to check that out again
Had Channing Tatum with his ass up in there
Talk about I slide up in there whenever I want
Wow
And it did
And then it was actually Channing Tatum
That was something I was like wow
When I was watching the movie
right i know and man
shout out to shanning
god damn damn it channing tatum
channing tatum for doing that movie
you know what i mean if you if you
watch the movie like dog done himself
for that one right when he's in the when danny mcbride's in the background with him like
channing's like holding onto his leg humping his leg
like he committed to that role he's a funny dude
yeah he is he was great in the kingsman movie yeah
he was great in the 21 john
street movies.
One job street.
Oh, very much so.
Yeah.
I'm,
I kind of think,
I kind of think he would have
fucked up if he did
that Gambit role he was supposed to.
Yeah.
I know.
That still may happen.
That still may happen.
We're in a multiverse of madness now, Brian.
Yeah, but get someone
that's actually good at doing
Cajun accent.
Get an actual Cajun, maybe,
for fun of sake.
Why don't we get the Duck,
Dynasty guy still show up in it?
Well, not that kind of Cajun.
Are they still around?
I need like Cajing Cajun.
I don't think they're relevant anymore.
That's what to say.
All right.
Sorry, we got off the rails again.
That's not having a lot.
Regarding American Horror Stories,
Stephen Loblad says,
halfway through the first episode,
not too bad so far.
All right,
so good things about that one.
Josh Youngblood says the first episode was dope.
Was it, Brian?
I will give you guys my answer
when you're on Patreon.
I wasn't disappointed, and I like the whole, these are going to be anthology stories.
Right.
Anthology stories with references back to past seasons.
Yeah, because they have the rubber man in one of them, right?
Oh, it's the murder.
It's the murder house.
Yeah, okay, cool.
And speaking of anthologies.
We'll wait to listen.
Regarding escape room.
that's what it's probably
I'm sorry
we'll get there
Matt Jones says
I need to rewatch it myself
before I see the sequel
and enjoy it the first time
No you don't
I kind of like it now
it's not
all right
it's definitely not
like that
that franchise
that I can't wait for the next one
yeah
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we'll get there
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cover 2009 exam yeah wait a minute
Okay.
Like a football team.
There you go.
2009's exam and also the brand new escape room tournament of champions.
Lance, I'm going to say now, be honest when we get to that movie.
Oh, I'm going to be brutally honest, man.
Again, I'm telling you guys, we need to start a band.
The perfect name for the band is CGI Fire.
That's actually not a terrible.
name for a fucking man.
Actually, while you're talking, I'm into Google it
and see if it's already taken.
I don't think it is now that you said it.
You put it out in the universe.
I mean, sort of reminiscent of Arcade Fire,
but I think it's not a bad idea.
Anyway.
Probably a cover band for them.
Yes, there you go.
Except I'm not, I'm not playing the band.
All right, we're going to start with the exam,
though.
I didn't mean for that to sound so negative.
Oh, I think the names available, guys.
I think we can do this.
Can we?
Does anybody know how to play any musical instrument at all?
Now we just got to learn the place of shit.
We can get Nez to play drums, and then we all act like we're playing our instruments.
We can all get on, Brian, we can all get on an ayahuasca, and Nez could just be doing the old drum.
I can play a few Metallica wrists.
Can you?
Yeah.
Okay, well, then we're here.
If I was on ayahuasca, I think I would think I know how to play instruments.
It might sound differently in my head than to everybody else.
It'd be one of those cutaway scenes where it sounds really awesome.
And then it goes into, like, reality where there's no, like, background music and stuff.
And it's just us playing flutes, like, real dumb.
All right.
I'm sorry.
That was cooler in my head.
All right.
So, exam, 2009, which is a movie I had never heard of before.
I have heard of it.
This was...
I don't think I'd seen it.
Lance, this was recommended to me by an unknown caller.
Oh, okay.
Lance knows who I'm talking about.
I know exactly who you're talking about.
Oh, I know exactly who you're talking about.
Sorry, sorry, Nate.
That's his accent.
Not an ex-axon, but
That's right, that's right.
He's working on it.
We'll get there.
Eight candidates for a highly desirable corporate job
are locked together in an exam room
and given a final test with just one seemingly simple question.
However, it doesn't take long for the confusion to ensue
and tensions to unravel.
Director is Stuart Hazeldyne,
also known for the shack.
writer also steward the shack
Shaquille o'neill that check
I don't know what the shack is
isn't a documentary about Shaquille O'Neal?
I doubt it but that would be awesome
I don't know I was what I'd watch that
That's a giant human being
Um
Writer is also Stuart Hazel Dunn with
Sam and Garrity
Uh Simon my bad
He's not thought it was two people
Sam and Garrity
No, he's not a fish.
The entire movie takes place in a single room.
I never noticed.
Pledge of purposes.
Yeah, that's a cool idea, actually.
Never clicked until it just said that.
Yeah, I never noticed that.
On the 4th of September 2012, a stage adaption of the film opened in Manchester.
In Manchester.
In Manchester.
Yeah.
With Tommy Shelby.
All right.
Lance, what are your thoughts on exam?
Oh, man, boring as fuck.
I'm sorry, yeah.
Oh, good.
You're going to have different opinions.
Cool.
No, I just, I don't know, man.
I don't know what I was expecting, Brian, but I thought that the, like, the poster looked really cool,
where it shows somebody over a desk with a pencil or something like that trying to figure it out.
And I thought the setup was great.
Maybe I was just pissed off that they.
Killed up, oh, spoiler alert.
It came out in 2009, so.
They killed off the only actress I knew in the entire movie, Pollyanna McIntosh, early.
She looks so, like, at first I didn't recognize her.
I just was, I was hot, man.
I was looking at her, and I was like, I know you.
And then when they did a close-up, I'm like, oh.
The trash woman from the Walking Dead, Brian.
Yeah, I don't want to call her the trash woman, though.
Oh, okay.
It's supposed to show up in this movie that was announced five years ago.
I like those movies that she was in, a woman.
Oh, yes.
Yes, yes.
Yeah, those are great.
Yeah, but I don't know, man.
That's kind of bored the hell out of me.
I just thought it could have been a lot more.
Which one did you watch first?
Exam or escape room?
Yeah, exam.
Okay.
Yeah, I watched it first, man.
And I was just, I thought they could have been tons more clever with some of the stuff that you're like,
where they were like putting water on the paper
and then saying, well, maybe there's some kind
of chemical in the water, but if the chemical lands
on us, is it going to burn us?
And this is just fucking silly to me.
I can't read my paper. It's all yellow.
I don't know, man.
It's going to get sillier tonight, believe me.
But I don't know.
Not my cup of tea, gents.
You're trying. You're trying.
I'm getting there. I'm getting there, man.
It was a British movie, right?
Yeah, practice makes perfect.
That's true.
Brian, what do you think?
I do kind of agree.
It was a little boring at times.
I do like to set up.
I do like the fact that we know they're going for this corporate job,
and we don't know what it is.
Yeah.
And I kind of like that they didn't really focus on that.
They kind of focus on the, I guess you would say,
the contestants or whatever for,
the job.
Yeah.
I kind of felt like the added pandemic virus thing was just kind of not needed and thrown in there.
Yeah, it kind of was.
And it didn't really change anything, did it?
No.
And I honestly, I thought this movie was going to be a little bit more ruthless and violent.
When things started actually getting gone, I thought it was going to just kind of go off the rails.
and I'd say it went pretty fucking off the rails for a guy
I was like what is the matter with these people
yeah and I really did like the end
of when you figure out what the question was and what the answer was for the question
it made sense if you just go back and listen to what I was saying
I was like that's kind of fucked up but kind of clever at the same time
it is but it's kind of a fucked up that well I guess we're doing
spoilers.
It is kind of fucked up that such a simple, like, stupid brain teaser type of question.
I feel like that's something my nephew would tell me, who drives me up the fucking wall,
by the way.
Sorry if you're, he's not listening.
Shout out to the one actor, though.
We're like, I'll tell him one question and he's like, oh, you already asked a question.
If I'm like, hey, can I ask you a question?
He's like, oh, you already did?
Now you can't ask me
What were you going to say about the actor, Brian's shout-up?
The security guard.
Ah, yeah.
I got to do this joke.
Yeah.
And I don't know.
There's just at times when I like the asshole guy,
Mr. White, because we're in reservoir dogs for a second.
Yeah.
He, I don't know.
just the way his character came off
I thought he would have just been
a little bit more
after getting the people
out instead of just kind of like
oh I made you tear your paper
oh he needs to go you know just
I was just kind of like just kind of down
for as much of an asshole as he
was there was like no real redemption arc
and then he really didn't
I mean yeah
it seemed like he would have been more of an asshole
either more of an asshole or have something
redeeming it was like at times he was
smart and then he became stupid.
Like he figured out that
you needed the
fingerprints of the security guard
to shoot the gun.
Yeah, right.
When the end came
and he wanted
to take his own life, did you just automatically
get dumb and just forget that
you needed his fingerprint?
I just felt like there
was choices made that were
smart and then we're stupid.
Stupid people. That was a question I had
also, like,
These people were acting like they were getting thrown into a fucking furnace.
Yeah.
When they got kicked out of the room.
Oh, you didn't get the job.
That's what I wanted.
And some of the contestants, I didn't understand why they would even allow them to be there when you find out what the job is actually going to be.
Like the guy that was torturing the woman with the paper cuts.
I might sound a little fucked up,
but I kind of wanted to see the paper cut on the eye.
Right.
Oh, that'd have been fucked up, man.
But I do see what he was saying of the actual thought of it happening.
Yeah.
It was more scarier than it happening.
So it was a way for him to get her to talk.
But why would you have that guy for that job?
Also, why, how did it get to that extreme?
If you're competing for it.
a fucking job. Let me cut your eyeball open. And if they didn't get it, they just walked him out and they said you're gone, right?
It was like it felt like it was like life and death stuff and it wasn't. It was a weird premise for a movie.
Now that you're saying that, maybe they should have said at least what the job could have been.
Yeah. Then I would have probably understood more of why they're going to these links for this job.
but it kind of sounded like they didn't even really know what the job was right yeah i don't think
that they did they were just like i don't know it pays good there's benefits i'm gonna cut your
eyeball open to make sure that i get it instead of you by the way i have a virus and they have
the cure how do you oh and then we find out she works for them yeah and i'm like so we're supposed
to trust her for the rest of a movie yeah probably not a good idea uh yeah it was it was a weird one
Having said all that, those are some of my cons.
I like to kind of point out plot holes sometimes.
Right.
But the movie was pretty entertaining.
I watched them in reverse order, so I saw an escape room before I watched this.
They did fit together pretty well.
Not to poise the bubble for the next one, but this was kind of refreshing.
Hey, they did go together well, though, don't you think?
Yeah.
It's like they were, they were all competing, and yet they also had to work together, right?
And I actually really liked the movie.
I just thought it was a weird premise.
It was like, man, these people are going through some extreme shit to get a fucking job.
Yeah, no shit, man.
No, what if it turned out to be just a desk job?
Yeah.
Probably.
You're about to cut somebody's eyeball.
to sit in a cubicle
You're the accountant now
Here's the books
I don't know
There was just weird behavior going on
Saturday
There's a lot of weird behavior going on
Where clearly
There was an asshole out of the group
Uh yeah
Why not take him out
Yes
Right
I mean the guy was clearly
Giving nicknames off of race
And I did laugh when he gave the one girl
Oh you're dark
because clearly she was moody
and
but
it was like racist
was a variety of our dogs
yeah it was like
his attitude
the way he talked to people
and
he had no problem
with getting anybody out
like Pollyanna McIntosh
I thought that was
I actually thought that was a smart mood
because she didn't realize
she was burning her on paper
yeah
yeah
yeah
I thought it was kind of
start with that
yeah I thought it was just kind of
weird that they were so against like
that was some kind of
rule or something you couldn't get him out.
When the guy was like, you know, we can just
open the door and just roll him out and
he's out. But then the lady did
bring up. Technically he didn't leave on his
own. Right. Yeah.
So you still get his ass out or write
on his paper. If you spoil your paper
accidentally or on purpose,
you're out. Why don't
you just walk down the line, write a bunch of pencil
marks on everybody else's paper?
You would think.
I think pissing on it would be spoiling it, but apparently not.
It's all yellow.
See, bad, we can't put music cues in anymore.
At the end of the show, we can do that song.
It was all yellow.
All right.
Frank Zappa's got a song.
Don't eat the yellow snow.
Watch out where those huskies go.
Yeah.
It's a good life lesson.
There you go.
Do not eat the yellow snow.
All right.
So let's do scores on this guy before we move on, Lance.
Four on ten.
Four.
Ouch.
Brian?
Five.
Five.
All right.
Not bad.
Yeah, I'm going to give it a five and a half.
Okay.
I don't hate this movie.
For as much as I bitched about it and pointed shit out.
I mean, hey, I'm going to do that with a lot of movies.
You sound like it was hit a door to two.
I know.
I did.
I was talking a lot of shit because a lot of the stuff I was like,
wait a minute, this is stupid.
Yeah.
But I do that a lot.
It was kind of enjoyable.
It was interestingly shot.
I like the cinematography.
The acting wasn't bad.
It was mainly the story.
It was kind of...
Yeah, it was just...
Poked holes through it.
Yeah.
Yeah, fair enough.
No pun intended, uh, with the paper.
Yeah.
If you're looking for holes, you can poke them in anything.
Um, that maybe came out wrong.
Uh, is...
Let's move on to
Escape Room Tournament of Champions
That is a
Big name for this movie
Yeah, very awkward
Tournament of Champions, huh?
I like how they said it in the movie
Yeah, like four times
You mean like a tournament of champions man?
Is that my name?
Title card
That's when the title should have popped up
I know, yeah, there you go
See, now you do some shit like that
I'm going on into it.
That would have been more like it.
She says that and then just the music
and then title card
That would have been great
Would have been a lot better than
the CGI Lightning and CGI
Fire
We've got to make a fucking movie guys
Okay
All right
Six people unwittingly
Find themselves locked in another series
of escape rooms
Slowly uncovering what they have in common
To survive
Joining forces with two of the original
Survivors
they soon discover they've all played
the game before
They didn't already know that
All right.
Director is Adam Robatel, also known for Escape Room, and The Taking of Deborah Logan.
Good movies.
Ah, that's one of my good ones. I like that one.
Writers, there's Will Hanley, Maria Melnick, Daniel Tuch, Tush, Daniel Tush.
That's going to be his name.
Orin, Uziol, Christine Lov.
And the partridge and a pear tree.
Oh, yeah, too many writers.
Okay.
I was like, I don't know why that was so much.
I'm just trying to read the names, man.
And Fritz Bomm.
Gee, what could go wrong with that many writers?
Yeah.
The first escape room in 2019 received more than $150 million with the budget of $9 million,
which is a problem.
That's a big problem.
Because now we have this.
What was the problem?
It made $150 million on the budget of $9 million.
Because now we have...
That pays for about 12 more movies automatically, right?
That's the problem.
That's the problem.
You can't leave out what this movie you're going to make, so...
Probably.
Let's make it an even 15.
Yeah.
It pays homage to the Hunger Games, catching fire with the game.
Ombage?
All right.
Are we breaking lance?
I thought Amunds was when you just barely referred to something.
Then there's something called stealing the plot.
But anyway, I'm sorry.
Okay, I got you.
I figured there was a joke in there somewhere and stinging it.
Yeah, homage is generally very like on the surface and just barely there.
Okay.
You have to really think of it to understand that it's going back to that movie.
Well, let's then let's be.
honest then the Hunger Games kind of ripped off Battle Royale.
Oh yeah. Amage, Brian?
So this is an homage to an homage.
The Hunger Game is catching fire.
With the game contestants being rounded up,
they rounded up the victors for their previous initial games
and thrust them into an end game.
With the two exception survivors
of the previous game initializing
What the fuck is?
Who wrote this sentence?
You're reading the script for Escape Room too right now.
So, yeah, I guess it is a straight...
It didn't even click until I just read that, but yeah, it's a straight rip off of it.
You've got to be a big Hunger Games fan to be like, hey, wait a minute.
Yeah, that's true.
I read the books.
Yeah.
Really?
All right.
So, Escape Room.
Lance, you want to go first on this one?
Not really.
No?
I'll go.
Oh, pass. Pass. Let me hit the pass.
Let me.
Let me, because I know where Lance is going, so let me go.
All right. I'm going to get to the good points.
I did like that it was a continuation from the first one.
It's true.
Because I felt like if they would have just did a whole new story,
people would have been questioning, well, what happened to the other two contestants
after finding out this is not a spoiler?
Because this is from the original movie that this is a big organization that does this.
so I like that
I liked some of the
I can't say escape rooms
because I just kind of felt like they were traps
that they had to get out of
yeah they kind of were
some of them were kind of creative and then some of them were just kind of
fucking dumb yeah
I didn't have a problem with anybody in the movie
honestly they were neither okay or just
serviceable I guess is the word
I'm struggling, guys.
I'm trying to find good things.
Oh, no, you're doing good, man.
Thank you.
I was trying to let you talk
because I'm about to be like,
the fuck they were.
Yeah, no, Brian, you sold me there for a minute, dude.
Seriously, man.
This is pretty people in peril number two.
Yes, sometimes it's not bad.
Pretty people in peril.
Even though one of the girls
I had a complete problem with,
I couldn't tell you anybody
I could tell you Zoe and Ben
just because we've seen them in two movies
but everybody else was just kind of there
the one girl
no no no no no no no
she did that like five times
in the movie
she was fucking annoying and I didn't
understand how she survived in an escape room
especially yeah how did some of these idiots
end up escaping the first room
and this is not a spoiler because it was in the
trailer, but I kind of want to see a backstory on the one girl who can't feel pain.
Yeah, that would make sense.
Because she drops a line where she said, can you imagine the escape rooms they planned out for me since I can't feel pain?
He was the only interesting character to me.
Yeah.
And the one that actually gave a shit, man.
Like, I love Zoe.
She's freaking gorgeous.
But God damn it, that was terrible fucking acting.
I'm sorry.
It's like, here, read these lines.
Okay, we're done.
Do you want me to look at the camera when I read them?
Or to my co-stars?
Yeah.
And that's, that for me is what the whole movie sort of felt like.
It was like sort of an anthology thing.
It was like, and I bet you that's part of the reason there were so many writers is each one created its own room.
Ah, you're probably right.
You're probably right.
That makes perfect sense.
And, but it was just, I don't know.
It was like, hey, let's do one take of this.
And all right, call it a day.
We don't have the budget to keep going.
We have $150 million.
Yeah.
Let's spend the rest on cocaine.
Yeah.
There's be a way more fun.
Yeah.
The special effects in the beach room were pretty cool.
Yeah.
I'd say the beach room was kind of cool.
Yeah, the beach room was pretty cool.
I thought the bank was kind of cool.
even though I thought, realistically, nobody would have ever fucking got their way out of there.
Well, shit, you have to go through like 17,000 books with 150 pages of ledgers in each of them to find one fucking clue.
What sense does that make?
And that was kind of the whole movie.
It's just them screaming at each other.
Oh, okay, guys, I go with this.
What now?
Yeah, that's what I say.
What the first one did better is they recognized who was good at doing those kind of things.
Right.
And they were listening more.
This one, it was just more, let's yell until somebody has an idea.
And then we'll not listen to that idea.
And then they won't listen to the idea.
What's with the Van Diesel looking guy that died immediately in the first train?
He was there for five minutes.
What's that movie we reviewed a couple years ago with the Irish kid?
Him and the Irish kid were like robbing houses and they robbed the Purple Man's house.
and he had that lady chained up in there?
Don't breathe?
No.
They were like, they were like ballet drivers, and they were like, while people were in a restaurant, they were like, yeah, he's from that movie.
Sounds familiar before.
Okay.
Yeah, he died quick.
There was a bunch of kids who died quick.
Right.
Oh, did they?
Yeah, there weren't that many deaths.
If you didn't see it, it didn't happen.
Which, I will say, led to a cameo from somebody that I did not know was in a movie.
Was it a cameo, though?
Hey, was this movie an homage?
We're just using words here.
Okay.
I won't say until spoilers, but I always enjoy seeing her on screen.
Well, if you go on IMD now, I mean.
Yeah.
Well, but then I...
My hope was.
was, oh, she's going to show up and save this movie because she's a real actress.
It didn't happen.
But my problem with her is, we'll get to it in spoilers, but it was a completely different character than the first one.
And I was like, but you're supposed to be like this and you're supposed to act this way.
I understand what has happened to you since the first one, but there's certain things.
I was just kind of like, that doesn't go away for you.
Yeah.
And I was a little confused.
Oh, I can't wait to hear Lance's thoughts.
I'm letting you guys go, go, go.
Was there anything?
I'll pass.
Was there anything else?
I can't really say anything else good.
I mean, it definitely gave a whole new meaning to the term acid rain.
That's for sure.
Yeah, that was actually, I like that scene.
Let's see, what else?
CGI fire.
Lots and lots of CGI fire.
I mean, like, I mean, we're talking 16-bit video CGO-I-5.
Yeah, dude, it was fucking horrible, man.
And so was the goddamn lightning on the train.
And that's not giving you...
What do you want to have real lightning?
Dude.
You know what that looked like?
You know what that looked like?
You know what?
I'm honestly, guys, when they had that scene, do you know, you know what?
My mind flashback, too?
What was that movie that we reviewed?
Warlock.
Oh, I love that movie.
Yeah, the movie's great.
Remember the lightning bolts that came out of his hand and shit?
That looked pretty much exactly the same to me, dude.
It's like if you made $150 million on the first,
why are you going so fucking cheap on this one?
I guess it's all the crap that they put in the rooms,
like little books and toys, stuff like that.
These kind of movies, you don't put a lot into the budget.
That's why they make so much back.
Yeah.
And it's a shame, man.
Lum House in A-24 have kind of shown that you don't need to put a big budget into a movie.
You know what?
I got my wish, didn't I, Brian?
I got my wish.
I don't think it'll be on your top, bottom ten.
I think it will.
I think it won't.
Really?
I put my foot there.
I will guarantee you, because, but I did like a couple of the characters in here.
The one chick that would look like she was, or sounded like she was from the Bronx or something like that.
No, no, no, no, no.
Yeah, that's the way.
I kind of liked her, man.
Oh, she was not smart.
I don't want to call her down.
She was the main one that I was like, how the fuck did you ever make it out of room?
Yeah, I get it.
I get it.
You guys are ready for scores?
That's all you're going to say?
There's not much to say.
So you just want to talk about the lightning and the fire?
That's it.
Well, why do they make this movie, though?
Because the first one made 150,000.
I was talking about, like, okay, so let's just take one escape room, an early one, right?
So we don't spoil too much because we're not the spoiler section yet.
So you really mean to tell me that you're going to be in a bank heist type escape room.
And you're going to have shelves and shelves and endless shelves of ledgers.
And you're really going to have, you got literally five minutes until the fucking door closes and lasers cut everyone in the room in half.
And you really mean to tell me
You expect everyone to look through
Every one of those ledgers to find one clue
And then piece it all together
What that clue means and how it relates
To the fucking shit that's projected on the wall
Because this is a goddamn tournament of champions
You know what?
They should have all died in that room
If this was real life
They would have all died in that room
Oh yeah
No, they would have died on the train
Yeah, that's also true
Technically
Although if this is real life
That's also not how electricity works, but that's fine.
And you're the electrician, you would know.
Technically, there's a good chance Ben and Zoe would have died running around into alleys of New York.
Yeah, I will say this, that dude that's stellar...
Oh, hi, homeless guy.
Yeah, the quote-unquote homeless guy that still her purse, I could tell he was in on it because the dude looked like a fucking athlete.
Yeah, no shit.
Totally built and like running like the marathon.
Oh, you must be a homeless Olympian.
Right.
Let me help you, sir.
That was allegedly hasn't eaten for two days.
But he sure did have some energy.
Oh, shit.
He has some energy.
But I like how they.
Oh, New York.
People just running around screaming for help.
And they're just like, oh, you fucking asshole, get out the way.
God damn it.
Somebody ran into me again.
Fucking purses.
It always happens at this time of the day when I'm in the subway.
There's somebody running into me.
Man, honestly, I can't.
can't even think of a movie I've seen this year that's in the bottom 10 except this one.
This is the first one that has, okay, well, let's do scores.
See, these are all good.
That was good.
That was good.
Bloodthirsty, Brian.
But I can't give it bottom 10.
We just didn't eat, right?
I don't think we got what they were trying to say.
Shadow in the cloud.
That was kind of dumb.
Shadow in the cloud was fun.
The woman in the windows.
See, I liked it more than you guys did.
Voyager.
Voyagers is a definite bottom 10
I watched the trailer
Lance and it looks like something I'll never watch
you don't need to
yeah I don't see too much in here
I don't see it not happening brother
I mean
cutthroat city we can't consider
that one that's not a horror
sci-fi
okay I can say that if it's going on your list
because
this just been a good year for movies
I can say
that but I think if we had
an average year of movies
I don't think you would even remember this movie by
the end of the year.
Yeah, except I'm putting on my list. I'm keeping
a list now. I beg to
differ. All right, well let's do
scores and we'll see how that was. All right.
Brian?
Five. Five. Oh, shit.
God damn, Brian.
I didn't hate it. And I didn't, I didn't walk out the
theater like
grabbing one of the ushers
like what the fuck did you make me watch
you know I just kind of
it was what it was and
will I ever watch it again?
No. If they come out with a third one
will I watch it? Probably yes.
Will I expect anything more
out of than what I got out of the first two?
No, it's just they're just
they're kind of filler horror movies.
Yeah, I mean I get it and
I you know I didn't hate the special
effect. The acting was just so fucking bad
man. It was like
you guys ragged on bye-bye man
and I was like
oh that piece of shit
dude this is way worse than bye-bye man
this movie was no
bye-bye man
the darkness
this is a hot mess
whatever that uh that fucking unfriended
dark web
those are every single any of mention
has ended up on a bottom 10 for me
yeah those are those are hall of fame
those are THR Hall of Fame
well because
it's no too Jennifer is it
well no oh my gosh you
talk about number one
worse that was still number one
all time but this one is
definitely going to end up on my bottom 10
man I just I did not enjoy
it I thought it was my wife was mad at me
for taking her to this movie oh no
AJ wasn't mad at me she
just looked at me like that was fucking silly
what was that all about
yeah it was
10 minutes into it and she looked
over at me and goes
This is going to be stupid, isn't it?
I was like, yep.
And it was.
I'm going to give it a...
I'm going to give it a two.
They had quality special effects and shit, and I do kind of enjoy the actors.
But, like, they were better in the first.
I like the first escape room.
Wait.
There you go.
Sorry, man.
The often is Philip.
the low man of the time. I know. But
I, Phil, I kind of agree with you there.
I think they were better than the
first, they were better in the first one.
Yeah. Zoe and Ben.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think they kind of
I don't even know about that.
I think they were.
And I think it was because, I think
maybe because it was, I'm doing air quotes,
tournament of champions.
They tried to go, they tried to
up the level on
the rooms and everything. So I think
they didn't really pay attention to the acting
and they were
the story and acting was kind of secondary
to the rooms
and I think they tried
Yeah, there you go
You nailed it, dude
That's exactly
That's it right there
Yeah, we know horror
That's the review for the entire movie
Right there
Wait till that comes up on a fucking
Tribute
What was the third clue
In the second room
Of the third part
Of the escape room part two
Is that when we just get up
And leave the trivia contest?
The trivia is why does the escape room tournament of champions suck ass.
Right.
Brian, take it.
Well, all right.
Lance, what do you think?
I'm above you.
Can you believe it?
Yeah.
Yeah, two and a half.
Two and a half.
I had a little bit of fun, and like I said, I did like a couple of the characters a little bit.
Yeah, like I didn't hate them as people.
Yeah, I didn't hate them as people.
Like the, I don't know if it was the writing.
or the acting or whatever was bad.
It just seemed very,
hey, I need you to say this line
and I'm going to film it, okay?
Yeah, I got you.
Yeah, their acting was...
Okay, done.
Their acting was the definition of phoning it in.
Yeah.
There it is.
Do you want me to emote more?
And they were like, no, we don't care about what you're doing.
It's all about this trap that you guys are going to be...
I mean, escape room.
You only got one to take with this special effects, okay?
Doesn't matter how much emotion you put into it.
But if we don't get this shot right with the room, we've just lost the entire day.
Yeah, right.
You guys ready for the twist?
Are we going to do spoilers?
Spoilers.
Deborah Ann Wool, like I said, love to see her on screen.
She is beautiful.
She is definitely not what I go for in a woman as far as looks.
But she is beautiful.
I had a problem with the way her character was.
Okay, Lance, when your favorite CGI fire came out.
Right.
According to the first one, she is deathly afraid of fire.
And I didn't feel like that.
Oh, yeah.
I felt like she was able to walk away and calmly duck out of the way
instead of what I believed in the first one.
Yeah.
Plus she created the escape room, right?
Yeah, because she's a master gamer because she fell to her death.
That made no fucking sense.
And landed on a mattress.
I understand why you want Zoe
because she figured out your shit.
Right.
She figured out a way to get out of the
room other than the way that you wanted her to get out the room.
So I understand why you want her to be your next game maker or game.
Makes sense.
Fucking person.
But Deborah Ann, what was her character?
Amanda, you made her one.
And she fell to her death allegedly.
What made you think that she was good at making
Well, remember she sacrificed herself for the team, remember?
I guess.
And she's a veteran.
So, you know, you got to give the veterans their special perks, right?
Yeah, that was deathly afraid of fire.
And she's famous and super hot.
And she quickly turned on the organization to help them, even though they still have your
fucking daughter.
Yeah.
Well, yeah, that's good point.
I'm not helping you.
You got my daughter.
For all I know, they didn't kill my daughter because I didn't, you didn't go along with what they wanted you to.
True, true.
She got to at least see proof of life, right?
If they even have her daughter, because I did like that point of the story that if you didn't see it, did it happen?
Yeah.
So they may not even have her daughter.
Because the one stupid guy could still be alive.
The guy that kept trying to sacrifice his life for everybody.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, the priest.
He just went down on the sand.
Yeah, right.
The only people I'm pretty sure died was the two other ladies in the acid ring.
Acid rain.
If they're alive, they're not looking to it.
That was kind of a shitty one.
How are they supposed to do that?
Yeah, it was kind of dumb.
Yeah, I think,
another thing I had a problem with
I don't think it was designed for anybody else to win except for Zoe
Right
Not even to win but her to go to the end to find out that we want you to be the next
Puzzle game room
Master Chief whatever the fuck
I think
I want to play some Halo now
You need to get on that airplane
You need to get on that airplane. I do
I do like the callback to the end, though, of the first one with the airplane.
Yeah.
Yeah, but did it make sense, though, really?
I mean, come on.
It will in part three.
Sure.
The tournament of tournament.
I got you.
The tournament of champion, champion?
The game maker.
Hey, that'd be a great title for it, actually, man.
Yeah, it was just kind of...
One of the 17 writers writing it.
Can me credit.
There was a lot of things that just kind of...
were telegraphed that you just kind of knew
like the FBI guy at the end.
There's no way he's going to, hey, I'm
FBI agent Freddy.
I'm a creepy fucking weirdo
that works for the organization.
What was the organization?
Mero?
The founding fathers of America.
Minos, me knows, that was what, see,
I'm trying to, trying to answer our own questions.
You're on the trivia on that one.
Trying to answer our own questions.
It was Minos.
There you go.
Bezos.
Yeah, there was just stuff like that.
Like you guys brought up, like the junkie.
He clearly wasn't who he was pretending to be.
Yeah.
The FBI guy wasn't who he was.
Yeah, pretty clearly.
And like just how much money do they have to spend on props and shit that they can actually build a whole fucking police station and literally a city at the end where,
we're still inside the game.
But you're in fucking Times Square or something.
If Minos is actually Amazon, they do have the money to make anything.
That's true.
All right.
Well, maybe then this is a cautionary tale, huh?
Amazon is in our lives every day.
This maybe may be ahead of us, huh?
Maybe we just didn't get it.
Maybe both the movies are together.
They win, they get the job as an Amazon shipping person.
Oh, that would
I would not like that
I almost got my eyeball cut
and I'm going to work in the shipping department
at Amazon
All right, now go deliver this package
What the fuck?
Yeah, for $12 an hour
Was there anything else?
Like I said, I liked a girl that couldn't feel pain
Right, I like her
It's actually pretty cool
I'll give her credit
I never had a problem with any of the lines that she delivered, I don't think.
I hated the other girl.
No, no, no, no.
That's the only one I liked, man.
So you like the one that gave off a vibe that she could never survive anything?
She absolutely did because she totally broke down every time anything happened.
That's what I liked about her, man.
She was more real.
That's how you died quick.
But say really stupid.
Yeah, Ben was kind of the...
actually, I would say he's kind of the same as the first one,
because he was just kind of stupid.
Yeah, but he was familiar in the first one, I thought.
Yeah.
Because they said something.
There was a line, something.
It was like a, he said something obvious,
and I assume that everybody in the theater was supposed to laugh.
I can't think of what it was,
but it just kind of made me roll my eyes.
Yeah.
One of those.
Yeah, there's a couple.
Ben, you're better than that, or at least according to the first movie.
Yeah.
Yeah, see, and I like both of those kids from the first movie.
But, like, and in this one, they just weren't there.
I think I was most disappointed with the main character chick.
Zoe?
Yeah, it was Zoe.
Like, her, acting as a hobby for her?
What's going on here?
She's the model slash actor.
Kind of wish she was a little bit more of a stronger character.
Yeah.
After dealing with, she had to deal with in the first one.
Yeah.
Well, and I really liked her in the first one.
but man, there was a whole lot of garbage lines delivered in this one.
And even this, even this movie had one of those stupid dream sequences, right, where they were in the hotel room.
Oh, of course.
And he thought that it was shrinking on it, whatever.
What was he going to climb under the bed?
Ben, you idiot.
I don't know.
He should have at least been smart enough to say, come out with the key, like when she's sitting in the car and say, hey, sorry, all they have was one king bed.
That's what I would have done, right?
There you go.
So he already showed his stupidity
Yeah, he wasn't getting nowhere
Zoe
Yeah, probably not
You don't want to hear you're my best friend
So yeah
Yeah, definite friend zone
You guys ready to wrap it up
Yeah, let's do it
I don't think we're reaching
If we try to continue to talk about this move
There's just not much to spoil in this one, right?
It's all in the trailer
Yeah, there was
Also nobody really gives a shit
Yeah, there was
There was a
champions in a tournament of escape rooms and somebody escaped, kind of.
Let's hope next week is better, right?
I hope so.
All right, well, we want to thank you guys for all listening to another episode of The Horror Returns.
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Hey, wait a minute.
we're in the same place
I gotta go watch a movie right now
though I'm getting stoned
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Old as well as
the visit. Is that right Brian?
Yep, and I'm a pre-warned everybody.
I am going to rip apart that little kid from the visit.
Well, if we're into the visit...
If we're into the visit, can we go ahead and do the amusement part, too?
If you want to talk about it for a third week in a row, sure.
I'm not going to re-watch it, but we can talk about it.
I'm pretty sure we've all given...
I think we've got explained everything in the movie.
It's not very long.
All right, Philip, until the horror returns again.
Good night.
