The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #269: Exam (2009) & Escape Room: Tournament Of Champions (2021)

Episode Date: July 22, 2021

Welcome back to The Horror Returns. This week, we check out Escape Room: Tournament of Champions and Exam. Cool of the week includes Loki, Caddyshack, and Pig. Trailer is Chucky. We shine the podcast ...spotlight on Neon Brainiacs. And we get feedback from Daeron Wilson, Marcey Papandrea, Cameron Sullivan, Heather Powell, Shari Pierre, Steven Lowblad, Josh Youngblood, and Matt Jones. Thanks for listening!

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Starting point is 00:01:12 I'm Lance and with me as always, my co-host, Brian and Philip. How's it going, guys? It is going. Bueno. Philip, appreciate your help with all the electrical work today in the 110-degree sun. Yeah, no problem. I'm on location today. Brian, we're praying for some of that Alaska snow right now, man. It's been sunny here the last few days, so no. No luck on that for me. must. Is it actually hot up there or just like perfect right now? It's perfect outside, but it is
Starting point is 00:01:49 hot as shit inside my house. Really? Yeah. Yeah. They're well right now. They're not because we're recording and I have issues with my neighbor. We tend to do things to irritate each other. Right. That's not great. It is funny, though. We need some stories. Probably more will come soon. All right. All right.
Starting point is 00:02:21 You guys ready to jump into Kulu the week? Yep. I'll go last. Yeah, Phillips thinking. You want to go last? I'll go. Yeah, I got a bunch. Good, good.
Starting point is 00:02:34 Okay. Oh, I have a couple now. One, I've got to say, especially since I missed last week's podcast. Loki is kicking ass, man. That is a good show. I'm impressed. You watched the finale? Yeah, watch the finale.
Starting point is 00:02:51 I'm finally all the way through it too, Brian, so you can talk. Well, I don't know if the listeners won't even. Yeah. Well, no, no spoilers. But I liked where it went. I liked how it ended. I like that we're going to get more. They're leaving it open for more.
Starting point is 00:03:05 So that's cool. Because, yeah, man, this was the Marvel show they needed right now. now. We got our big bad for the next phase. So who is that? Spoilers. Anybody don't want to listen to. Oh, we're sorry.
Starting point is 00:03:22 No, that's not a spoiler. He was confirmed. The actor was confirmed to play him like months ago. Uh-huh. Okay. But he is essentially, without really spoiling it, he could be a worse villain than Thanos.
Starting point is 00:03:39 Huh. and with the multiverse, this can go so many different ways. Okay. Well, yeah, I'm excited about it. All right, well, let's, all right, just spoiler for a second. Who is he supposed to be? Just spoke for a second. Kang the Conqueror or?
Starting point is 00:03:58 Kane the Conqueror. Oh, okay. He never actually said, he never actually said Kang, but when he said, I know by many names, they even called me a conqueror. Oh, that gave, that gave it. That gave it away, huh? Yeah. But like I said, he was the Jonathan, I think it's Jonathan Majors.
Starting point is 00:04:15 He's from Lovecraft Country. Yeah, he's from Washington, right? Yeah, he was cast as King the Carpurer because we'll get King. We'll get him next in the next Ant Man movie. Okay. And I heard about that. That's a few years away, right? Yeah, I mean, he'll probably pop up more, but the theory is he'll pop up in Ant Man
Starting point is 00:04:37 because he is going, because Ant Man still has. the technology to go back in time. Okay. Oh, that's right. That's right. It's probably going to not want them to have that technology. Hmm. Yeah. Interesting.
Starting point is 00:04:52 Probably fucks up their little TVA timeline, too. It's sticking with Marvel. I have maybe a not-so-cool a week. Uh-oh. Of course. Black Widow, man, was kind of disappointing. I was disappointed, too. I rewatched it and I kind of changed my mind on it.
Starting point is 00:05:12 Yeah. There was some things I had problems with. Still, everybody don't want to hear spoilers. Skip ahead a couple minutes. What they did with Taskmaster, I was a little. Not that it was a female. That Joe Biden could have been under the fucking mask all I care. But the fact that it was.
Starting point is 00:05:33 Brian, you and your politics, you dirty bastard. I know. All right. We're canceled. You kind of look like it. It was the fact that I felt like they did their Marvel thing where they just kind of threw away another villain. Yeah. But when I rewatched it, they kept saying Taskmaster Protocol.
Starting point is 00:05:56 Oh. So this isn't this couldn't, this isn't the only taskman. Multiple characters. Although, yeah. And no, I didn't have a problem with that at all. And I thought it was actually a pretty cool villain. But I don't know. It was just really slow.
Starting point is 00:06:13 It was a long movie. Yeah, it was a long movie. It had to be two and a half hours, right? Oh, was it? Was it two and a half hours? Yep, two and a half hours. Yeah, I think the problem, we should have got this movie like five years ago. Right.
Starting point is 00:06:26 Yeah, then it may have been okay. Yeah, when it was in the timeline, right? Yeah, I feel like I've been waiting for it for so long. And then, like, some of that shit in the trailers that was really cool, wasn't even in the fucking movie. Yeah, I think we kind of, I think it not coming out when it should have. And then when they finally were making this movie, we had to wait a year to see it. I think we just kind of didn't really care by the time it came out. Yeah. Well, yeah, I was, I was watching it with AJ and she was like super confused. She said, wait a minute, didn't all this shit already
Starting point is 00:06:59 happened? Yeah, it takes, it takes place after Civil War, so. Then it should have come out after Civil War, right? Yeah, go ahead. I was just saying my wife, my brother-in-law, and my mom all fell asleep during it. I think what Marvel was doing, I think they were
Starting point is 00:07:18 waiting to see because there wasn't really no female superhero movies, so I think they were waiting to see how Wonder Woman did. And then the first one did good and they were like... Makes sense. Well, the first one was good. No, the first one. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, of course. So after that,
Starting point is 00:07:34 they were like, okay, we can do female-centric movies. But there was some good things out of it. I did like Florence Pugh as her sister. Yeah, she was actually really cool. I like that a lot. I thought David Harper. David Harper was awesome.
Starting point is 00:07:51 Yeah. He's a great Russian accent. He can still be around. Right. I was kind of worried there at the end. I was like, are you just going to kill off everybody? But he can still be around, I think, with Yelena, Black Widow sister,
Starting point is 00:08:08 I think the shows and the movies, they're setting up the Young Avengers. Oh, I gotcha. If you guys, if you finished the Falcon Winter Soldier, that one guy that Sam tells him, just go ahead and keep the wings, the damaged ones.
Starting point is 00:08:27 In the comics, that guy becomes the next Falcon. Oh, okay. Huh. Makes sense, I guess, right? I think they're setting up the Young Avengers and then with the villains, I think they're going to set up the thunderbolts. Yeah. That was just, it was, it was like Thor 2. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Just not as good as the first one. Phil, I agree with you. Oh, you got to watch this one and this one and this one. And you can just skip that one. Yeah, I agree with you. Like Thor 2 wasn't necessarily a bad movie, but do you really need to watch it again? Right. And do you remember anything from it?
Starting point is 00:09:01 No. Yeah. All right. And then, I think that's, oh, what was that movie we watched last night? Oh, vicious fun. Vicious fun. We liked it, Brian. It was on Shudder.
Starting point is 00:09:16 Yeah, we checked it out last week, right? Yeah, I needed a little bit more vicious in my fun, so. Yeah. I thought it was good, though. I'll have to watch it. I'll have to watch it again, I think. It had a great cast, too. I was surprised.
Starting point is 00:09:30 It was very quirky and entertaining. Could have been funnier. but there were definitely some really funny moments. Yeah, I had some good humor in it. Kind of a horror comedy-ish thing going. Right. I don't know, I liked it. It was very quirky.
Starting point is 00:09:49 Yeah. I think it's a good word for it. And then that's all I got. All right. Well, Brian, you want to go last. So I did see Gunpowdered milkshake. Have you checked that out? Not yet, but it is on the schedule for action returns,
Starting point is 00:10:05 which I'll have a, when we, when we, but right before we get in the listener feedback, I have some updates on the shows and updates on Patreon, but no, I haven't seen it yet. I was kind of, probably going to get to it this weekend. I definitely won't give anything away,
Starting point is 00:10:22 but I would say that it's, um, it's one of the, one of the prettier films as far as the cinematography, the way that it shot. I thought you were talking about the cast. Well, yeah, it's got some pretty big names in it,
Starting point is 00:10:34 but, um, I don't know, man. I think the script fell way short, but I'll let you guys decide for yourselves. That's all I'll say. Yeah, I haven't really heard anybody not say anything bad, but I haven't heard anybody say anything good. Like, it just kind of came out and saw Netflix, and that's it.
Starting point is 00:10:54 Yep, and I'm sure they spend a ton of money on it for that cast, right? Well, yeah, I mean, we got, what, Nebula? Yeah, Nebula. Angela Bassett Angela Carla Gugino Michelle Yao Queen Saracy Yep she shows up
Starting point is 00:11:12 Yeah it's worth checking out Paul Giamati is in it Did you know that Isn't he like the bad guy or something I won't give that away As long as he doesn't show up in his stupid as rhino costume He had an amazing smile
Starting point is 00:11:29 No rhino no rhinocustumes man That should be what he wears all the time But I think, again, I checked out Loki and Black Widow too, but I think my cool of the week is going to be very far away from horror. AJ and I had the house to ourselves Saturday, and we just kind of hung out and watched movies. And I think we watched Black Widow, and then after that, an 80s, or actually, I think it's 1980, in fact, classic Caddyshack. You guys remember that? Oh, yeah. Who misses 1980, not?
Starting point is 00:12:03 Unpolitically correct comedy. Just me? No. Recently, what did I rewatch? That you definitely can't have that. Eddie Murphy's Raw. Yes, definitely. He cannot say those jokes.
Starting point is 00:12:20 Yes. There's a lot of people that can't say a lot of jokes now. Philip, you and I watched Raw the other night, didn't we? Like, around Christmas or something? I think so. Oh, yeah. I remember turning that one on. I've seen that one a bunch.
Starting point is 00:12:31 That's a good. That is a great. stand up. Yeah. It's one of my favorites. All right. Cool of the week. Candy Shack, Brian, take it away. All right. Did I see some good stuff this week? That is the question every week. First one. It's got to be good. How many of them are there? 15? I'm going to say eight, nine. I think I got in this week. Let us end.
Starting point is 00:12:58 Let us in. I will put in the category of if you're introducing your kids to horror movies. Okay. This has to do with the urban legend of the black-eyed kids. Which I had to look this up. Not to be confused of the black-eyed peas. No, no, no. Okay.
Starting point is 00:13:18 What are the black-eyed kids? Is that a thing? Yeah, I'd never heard of it, and I looked it up. It actually is like an urban legend that some believe is linked to, like, aliens, abducting people. Oh, okay. They take the form of children between the aliens. ages of six and 16. And they're like pale white skin and they just have like where their eyes are supposed to be.
Starting point is 00:13:41 It's just black. And I guess they kind of roam around the streets at night and people kind of, you know, you see a child that are walking around alone. You want to go see what's wrong. And I guess that's when they get you. That's when they attack. See, I thought it was aliens from the trailer. Yeah, I looked at it up.
Starting point is 00:14:02 there's a lot of people that claim to have seen them and a lot of people linked it to alien deduction and stuff like that. The movie necessarily wasn't great. It was kind of boring. Tell it like it is, Brian. I think it's not
Starting point is 00:14:18 terrible, but I think if you watch it with your kids, I think you'll probably enjoy it better because there's children in it between the ages of like 10 and 12, 13. So there's a lot of kid conversations, I was just kind of like, okay, you're kind of taking me out of this.
Starting point is 00:14:37 I got you. But not the Psychogorman quality of kid conversations, right? No, no. If you put that little girl in this movie, I probably would have paid attention more. You put her character in this movie. Me, me, me. Yes, me, me, and whatever her brother's name, that psycho-cler. A little obnoxious, but she pulls it off.
Starting point is 00:14:58 Tobin Bell does show up in the movie. He did collect a paycheck for his 10 minutes he was in the movie. Kind of like vicious fun where the quicker the characters got killed off, you could calculate how many days they got paid for. Like David Kester was out first. Yeah, I was going to say he was probably, that was probably the guy that cost the most out of everybody. Oh, yeah, for sure.
Starting point is 00:15:27 He got paid for his day. of shooting so next up is a movie that when I posted I watched this like especially on Twitter it was like I was getting like a whole bunch of likes on it and it's a decent kind of horror comedy
Starting point is 00:15:44 slash who done it type of movie and that's a werewolves within. Ah, I've heard of that one. A brand new movie, right? Yeah, I think okay, no, just give me a second to explain Lance. I think the people that made scare me were involved in this and I would say this movie I could be wrong but if it is this movie is way above scare me yeah that was on my bottom 10 last year yeah this one I don't
Starting point is 00:16:15 know if it would be in my top 10 but it was a decent I think what I appreciated more was the whodunit because they get they're essentially barricaded themselves into this house because it's a snowstorm outside. And people are kind of getting picked off one by one, and you're just kind of trying to figure out who the spoiler, werewolf is. Is it Zavev? So I do kind of recommend it if you like whodunit's with a little bit of
Starting point is 00:16:47 werewolf genre mixed in. I do kind of recommend people check this one out. Nice. All right. Yeah, it's on my list to watch. Is it streaming anywhere? Yes. If you can find it.
Starting point is 00:17:01 Ah, I get you. You have to solve the who-done-it. Yes, so where it's streaming. Gotcha. Next one I watched is a thriller titled Till Death, starring Megan Fox. I heard about this one where she's laying on the ice or something, and her hand is, like, touching somebody that's under the ice, maybe,
Starting point is 00:17:25 like in the water? That comes later. Essentially, she is... That is not where I wanted that sentence to go. Yes. That's not where you want her hand to be touching. But it's not that kind of movie. Go on.
Starting point is 00:17:38 Somebody under the ice. Yeah. She goes to a lakehouse with her husband, who you can already tell is kind of abusive and controlling. Right. They wake up the next day, and she is handcuffed to him. Oh. And he kills himself. She's handcuffed to a dead body.
Starting point is 00:18:01 Yeah, and he kind of sets it up to where he, mind of spoilers. He kind of sets it up throughout the house like he takes all the knives out. So he makes it so she can't cut herself loose. And there's kind of a reason why he did it. And then on top of that, there is somebody trying to break into the house, which is kind of a twisty terny. Huh. It's not bad.
Starting point is 00:18:30 It's not bad, but it's not great. Like a one last fuck you on the way out. Yeah, pretty much. She's not bad in it. I, you know, I actually don't think she's a bad actress. I just don't think she needs to be the star of something or carry a big budget movie. She's kind of just fine doing these kind of movies.
Starting point is 00:18:49 Yeah, she's good eye candy. Yeah, especially. I didn't realize how old she is now. So, salute to Machine Gun Kelly because that's his woman now. Is it? Yeah, and I heard her like kind of.
Starting point is 00:19:06 That's kind of cool because I think I like that guy. Yeah, I think he's super talented. Yeah. And they're kind of, I like their relationship. I read they just took a trip to South America to do the whole ayahuasca thing. Oh, cool. If I could sign me up. You were just talking about that film.
Starting point is 00:19:24 Oh, that's one of my, that's on my bucket list. All right, let's see. The eighth night on Netflix, you can skip this one. I'm not even going to tell you. The eighth night. Yeah, it's a prequel to the green night? No, if I wish it was, because then it would have been more interesting. I couldn't even really tell you what the movie was about accurately.
Starting point is 00:19:50 I was so checked out of it and bored. Ah, that's pretty. Sounds. Another one that I was kind of bored that came on Netflix, a classic horror story. Oh, no. I really liked what they were trying to do. I thought it was going to be a little bit more violent and gory. And I would have to honestly say, I had to honestly say I was bored, and I can't recommend this one either. Too bad. Too bad. I didn't even know it was out yet.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Yeah, it came out Friday. Okay. Checked out the first two episodes of American Horror Stories. I will kind of save my ideas on that one. I'll talk about it when we get to Patreon News. Okay. And what else? What else?
Starting point is 00:20:43 What else? Fear Street, 1666. Oh, yeah. I watched the first run. They saved the worst one for last. Oh, no. God damn it. I was pretty impressed with the first one. It wasn't bad. First one is definitely the best.
Starting point is 00:21:02 Ah, shit. Second one. Second one, I liked the second one because of all the kind of references to the classic camp slasher movies and stuff like that. And the 70s setting. So I enjoyed that one. This one I was looking forward to because of the whole being a period piece and you're going to kind of kind of understand what the curse is about it's fucking bored
Starting point is 00:21:28 oh man that's too bad that's too bad they ended on a on a fizzle out huh yeah yeah it kind of like if I had to rank them I would definitely rank them on the order they came out so okay maybe I'll just watch the first one
Starting point is 00:21:43 then and quit first one's worth it yeah I think Lance you're you're on the rabbit hole to hear the whole story ah okay they're that linked then. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:21:55 All right. Fair enough. And lastly, uh, today, earlier today I got to check out Pig with, uh, Nicholas Coole.
Starting point is 00:22:05 Oh, yes. I'm going to go see that in the theater this week. No. Okay. I'm, I'm gonna be honest with everybody. I really,
Starting point is 00:22:14 really enjoyed this movie. Yeah? I will let people know. It's not what you think it is. I'll tell, I'll tell you right now. I don't. How can it not be?
Starting point is 00:22:23 It's not a, it's not a, Hunter looking for his pig. Yeah, but it's not a revenge film. What? It's a movie about love. It's a movie about loss. You kind of find out with, and this is one thing I really enjoyed about the movie is you kind of find out why he became basically a hermit living out in the woods by himself.
Starting point is 00:22:45 Without them straight up telling you why or having a whole bunch of flashbacks, you kind of piece together the, you know, the picture. So a little deeper than expected. Yeah. Because, I mean, it is kind of like the same thing, you know, with John Wick. The puppy was much more than a puppy. And there was reasons of why, you know, he's basically flipping out over losing his pig. But if you're going in thinking this is just Nick Cage fucking losing it and it's a revenge, but it is not. But it is beautifully shot well.
Starting point is 00:23:22 So this is actually your cool of the week. Yeah, I'm going to say it's my cool of the week. There was just stuff in it that I just was like, I was like, fuck yeah, Nick Cage, you tell him. There was a scene where he's going to this restaurant question and the chef and his, who he used to be, like his name holds so well with everybody as soon as they find out his name and who he is, like he just gets that respect. So are you thinking Nick Cage's second? an Oscar, perhaps? No, they're not. Okay. All right. I mean, it would be awesome. I went a little overboard there, huh? Yeah. The scene, he's just questioning the guy, because the guy knows some people that might have took the pig. Right. And he just, he's like, you don't want to piss
Starting point is 00:24:08 these people off. And then Nick Cage is just like, why are you doing this? And he's like, well, I have a business to run. I got this restaurant. And then he's just like, telling him, like, why do you have this restaurant? It's not real. Like, the critics, aren't real, the customers aren't real. You know, this is not the kind of restaurant you want. You're just doing it because it's good business. And he was just kind of dropping
Starting point is 00:24:32 facts throughout the movie, and, you know, he's just kind of looking for this pig, and he's just telling everybody, you know, there's just a few things in life that we really get to care about. And then you kind of find out more of his backstory than Alex Wolfe from Hereditary's in it,
Starting point is 00:24:48 and he's kind of got a backstory. This is not what I was expecting to hear. It's more of, Lance, it's more of a drama, but I enjoyed it. And it's, it's only like an hour and a half too, unlike, like you guys said, Black Widow being two and a half hours. Yeah, it was unnecessary. Great, great movie from Nick Cage. All right.
Starting point is 00:25:11 I think that guy, that guy just for the past few years has just been hitting him out of the park with me. Really? Seriously. I know. That's what I'm saying. Somebody was talking shit about Nick Cage the other day. I think it was more brother-in-law. Was it?
Starting point is 00:25:23 Yeah, other one of the fucking 15 them. And he was like, oh, yeah, you know, like Nick Cage when he just started doing shit for the paycheck. I was like, well, yeah, he went through that phase. But the last shit he's done has been amazing. Oh, yeah. Well, that was when he was broke. So he had to do things for the paycheck. Now I think he's just doing it.
Starting point is 00:25:45 You tax his kids. Yeah, I think now I feel like he's doing it for the art. Yes. I think that's exactly. what he's doing. Very much making it. Because I think he, I want to say he came out and said he's not really interested in doing any, like, big, big budget movies. I mean, he did the Into the Spiderverse because he's a super big comic book fan.
Starting point is 00:26:07 Okay. But I think, I think, like, what he's been doing for the past few years, that that is, like, his interest now. Yeah. And I don't make sense. I like it. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah.
Starting point is 00:26:18 You said, you said you watched, uh, Gaia at one point. too, right? Yep. What was it that you said about that one? It looked great. Everybody acted well in it. I liked the explanation of what was going on. And yeah, that one I recommend checking out, too.
Starting point is 00:26:38 That one's kind of a slow burn, too. It is. That was my, because I watched that one. I forgot because I haven't had a cool week. Oh, you did watch it? Yeah, so I checked out Gaia. I need to catch up on movies, guys. It's a pretty trippy movie.
Starting point is 00:26:50 Yeah. Those fungus people were creepy looking. It was a cool way of looking at things. They kind of created this world. And it was a fun idea, I think. It was just brought on very slowly. Slow burn, huh? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:11 That can be good, though. Like a Thai West fella or something. Oh, real quick. You guys ever see the movie Blind Spotting that came out a couple of years ago? Yeah, I think so. It sounds familiar. Is that the one that's in Oakland or whatever? Yeah, yes. Okay, yeah.
Starting point is 00:27:27 About gentrification. Yeah, it has a series now that is on Stars. Fantastic. Yeah? Yeah, I think there's about seven episodes out right now, and I kind of went through the first seven in like two days. Damn. Great acting, great story, and it is connected to the movies. A lot of the same actors.
Starting point is 00:27:51 are basically all the same actors are from the movie or in the show. Oh, shit. How often does something like that happen? Almost never, right? Yeah, and the only one that's not in it was the main star from the movie, but he is referenced in the show
Starting point is 00:28:08 of why he's not there. And then when the credits roll, you see that he is a creator and a producer for the show. So he's definitely not ruled out of showing up. Gotcha. kept the same team together. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:28:22 And what network is that on? Stars. Stars. Okay, cool. Yeah, Stars has some cool stuff, man. Yeah, I've been kind of trying to go through these shows that I've been kind of putting in my queue and just not getting to. And I've been, yeah, it kind of pisses you off because there's so much good TV there. And it's just how can you get to it all?
Starting point is 00:28:46 How do you get to it all? TVs and movies, right? Yeah, well, movies is. my cool of the week every week my my movie's kind of very i don't know if they're good or not but tv shows has been knocking them out of park i would say though yeah it's just so hard to get involved in a tv show sometimes is it i don't know for me like i'm looking for just a movie to watch i don't want to get invested and stay up on night yeah that that is a problem especially if you tell yourself just one more episode yeah and then something happens at the episode and then you're
Starting point is 00:29:19 okay one more after this yeah Yeah. If it's done well. Yeah, definitely. So, yeah, that's it for me. All right. So, Pig, cool of the week, huh? Yes, sir.
Starting point is 00:29:32 All right, I'm going to check it. I don't know it was out. I got to watch it. I'm going to check it at the theater this week, man. It's in one theater, one AMC theater in Houston. Yeah, so they have a whole lot of screens, so they show a lot of the art house movies there. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:29:45 So I'll go check it out. All right, so moving on. Brian, you got any horror headlines for us? let me see because it has been a slow week I don't know it seems like we'll have multiple slow weeks and one real big week of news and then it'll just go back
Starting point is 00:30:04 uh so it's the fourth of July man yeah some of this might not be horror news but I'll just throw it in there the Continental the series uh spin off from John Wick oh yeah
Starting point is 00:30:18 is that finally coming out yep it will officially, it was announced. It will be a prequel series, and it'll be a three-part event series. So not really like a 10 or 13 episode series then? Yeah, so. More like Fear Street. Is Keanu Reeves in it?
Starting point is 00:30:36 I read that he's not been cast in it, but the creators said don't rule out a cameo. Well, if it's a prequel... If it's a prequel, he's probably the legendary. Yeah. So they probably talk about him a lot, but he doesn't show up until, like, one episode or something. Yeah, the very end, right? I think it'll be, of course, about, like, other assassins in the Continental. And then they'll probably have a scene where they'll talk about John Wick and somebody will say something.
Starting point is 00:31:10 And they'll be like, but it's John Wick. And they'll be like, oh, I didn't know who was John Wick. That guy fucking killed him. He'll be a subject. Yeah. Let's see here. We will talk about that in trailers. I honestly don't think there's,
Starting point is 00:31:31 you guys ever go to Universal Studios Halloween Horror Nights, I think it's called? No, that sounds interesting. Six Flags has something kind of like that. Yeah, this year, Universal Studios announced new mazes for their Halloween horror nights, and it will be one will be based on Netflix
Starting point is 00:31:52 as the haunting of Hill House Oh, interesting Another one will be The Bride of Frankenstein lives And the other one announced Was the Texas Transaw Massacre Dude, I'm gonna say it I think Universal is better than Disney
Starting point is 00:32:09 That's been so long since I've been to either So yeah I know And they always change it day by day So I could be totally wrong about that but that sounds like a really cool thing. A haunted house based on the Hill House? And who else could do that except Universal? That's pretty cool.
Starting point is 00:32:30 Yeah. But Six Flags, they do like big Halloween mazes and stuff and haunted houses. Fright Fest. There you go. Big difference, though, right? Yeah, it's pretty cool, but it's probably not near at the same level of production as this. I would imagine. This next news is something people can go to our social media and see.
Starting point is 00:32:48 but I posted the floor plans for Rob Zombies, The Monsters. Oh, I saw that, yeah. That is one thing that kind of gets me excited because he's such a fan of the show. It looks like a blueprint. Yeah, he's recreating the actual house. They're building it from scratch. That's cool. Wow.
Starting point is 00:33:12 Okay. And he's been posting a lot of costume designs, too, and it looks very faithful. to the show. You know what? Even though zombies directing it, I'll bet he doesn't have all the white trash and fuck you and cock sucker. Oh, yeah. I hope not. You know what I mean? No, I'm pretty sure he's going to stay true
Starting point is 00:33:30 to the monsters, man. There's a part of me that kind of wants to hear. There's a little piece where maybe that would work. Grandpa. Grandpa. Man, if the, I don't know the actor's name, but the actor that played Grandpa
Starting point is 00:33:46 in the House of a Thousand Corpses, Yeah. If he was Grandpa Monster. Is he still alive, Brian? I think he passed. Okay, well, that can't happen. CGI. CGI.
Starting point is 00:34:01 Yeah, I want to say he passed before the devil's rejects. That's why they didn't even mention him. Ah, yeah. I imagine Rob Zalby's friends live a hard life. Oh, yeah. Lots of drug, sex, and rock and roll, right? Yeah, there you go. We'll probably get a trailer for Evil Dead Rye soon because the director Lee Cronin says they are more than halfway done filming the movie already.
Starting point is 00:34:29 Okay. We have some Evil Dead news, Brian. Still no Ash? He's a producer still. He's doing his producer thing where he's kind of leaking a little bit of news here and there. But it's not ruled out. It's not a remake. So it is in the same universe.
Starting point is 00:34:48 Well, speaking of Evil Dead, I'm going to chime in here real quick. Friend of the show, Patrick Lear, went to a horror convention today and met the beautiful Dana DeLorenzo. Is that name Ring a Bell? A little bit. Yeah, she was in Ash versus the Evil Dead, and could be having an interview coming up, actually. Oh, her. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. She seems like a cool person.
Starting point is 00:35:19 Yeah, and I think we have a sound bite on route for the show. Nice. Oh, do we have any more news? I might just end it there because... I can't wait to talk about the trailer. All right. I mean, this is Chucky.
Starting point is 00:35:37 Chuckie's back. Fuck this Child's Play. Nez, fuck you, Nez. Fuck you, man. You said this new Childs Play movie was hella good and awesome. Fuck you, Nez. You don't know what you're talking about, dude. A robot Chucky is not my Chucky, period.
Starting point is 00:35:54 This is my Chucky. Even though we only got five seconds in this trailer, I mean, you can tell this is going to get back to basics, Chucky, man. Yeah. All right. Let me read a synopsis of what the series is going for. It's our trailer is Chuckie, by the way. Yes, yes, Chucky.
Starting point is 00:36:14 Nobody knew from Lance's example. excitement, which I believe somebody commented on your excitement. I think it was Stephen Loveland. He says he knows you're excited for this. Stephen knows me well. All right. Synopsis. After a vintage,
Starting point is 00:36:32 Chucky doll turns up at a suburban yard sale. An idyllic American town is thrown into chaos as a series of horrifying murders begin to expose the town's hypocrisy's. And secure, sorry, kind of cuts off there. I've heard enough. Secrets. Okay, that's all I need. So it kind of seems like they're going with,
Starting point is 00:36:59 there's more to this town than just a killer doll on the loose. Ah, okay. And a few cast people. Christine Elise, she was Kyle in Childs Play 2. she is uh yeah so kyle was back um Jennifer Tilly yeah oh wow yeah this is going to be amazing Hunter Dunbar himself devonsarise in this are you serious well soul who is he gonna play oh no he he was cast and uh is moose gonna be in it you know what this will be my number one show before it even comes out if moose shows up and gets a chucky doll if moose
Starting point is 00:37:43 Moose has to go to battle with Chuck. Oh, my God. Not to battle with him. Moose is the kid that picks up Chuckie. How great would that movie be? That would be amazing. But I also want to see older moose. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:56 With one eye and missing fingers. Oh, so you're talking after the movie. No, even that. You can pick up a Chucky doll. Yeah, that's true. Because he's kind of still mentally a kid, right? It's his only friend. But see, Moose is the only one.
Starting point is 00:38:12 See, we're writing a whole. new movie. Moose is the only one that can battle, Chuckie, because Moose is such a horror fan. Ah, that's right. So he knows the rules like scream. He'll even have to wear his special little horror shirt that he
Starting point is 00:38:27 had when he was going to go meet Hunter Dunbar. Right. And it's not Hunter Dummy Bar. He puts some respect on his name. That guy was in awesome movies that we never got the titles of, really. Let's see. A Viscuit fan, though, for sure.
Starting point is 00:38:45 Yeah, Brad Duroff, of course, is returning as the voice of Chucky. Fiona Duros is returning. Do what? Fiona Deroff is also returning, because if you guys remember, this is supposed to be a continuation from the last movies. As well, it should be, right? Yeah. And Lance, your boy. Alex Vincent.
Starting point is 00:39:08 Yes. Maybe he'll give us a soundbite this time. Probably not. The picture. I'm fine. Sorry, Alex. We got in pretty cool with pretty much everybody else, so I'll take it. I'll pretend I'm Andy and give us a sound bite, so.
Starting point is 00:39:24 There you go. I don't think you sound like Andy, right? Get moose to give us a sound bite. Yeah. Probably would before Alex would. This is course created by Don Mancini, so that's why we've got so much going on from the movies. Not the Childs Play movies because he does not own that name. But he's, yeah, Mancini's going to handle this perfectly.
Starting point is 00:39:52 And so he's the showrunner? Is he going to write all the episodes? Do you know yet? I know he's the creator. I'm going to see if he's directing. He is directing an episode. Okay. This is that shit he was talking about years ago.
Starting point is 00:40:05 Yep. Yep. When we were at front. Pretty cool. Finally got there. It took a while. but it's coming. Cope, it's a bitch.
Starting point is 00:40:14 Yeah, and I think it was also securing a network. Ah, okay. This will be kind of like the Purge series that came out on sci-fi and USA. That's how this will come out. I'm all in, man. I'm paying, I'm the one sucker
Starting point is 00:40:30 of the three of us that pays for literally everything, so I have full cable. I have every single channel. Ah, it doesn't mean, I'm watching. So, I'm in. October 12. You're going to find a way anyway, huh, Phil? Oh, yeah, I'll check it out.
Starting point is 00:40:45 Oh, at least you'll find a way. So it's kind of a Halloween season. Where there's a fill, there's a way. Yes. That's what I always say. Put that on another t-shirt. Okay. So far, we got the horror returns.
Starting point is 00:40:58 We don't know horror. Right. And we got put that. What was it? What did you just say? Oh, where there's a fill, there's a way. All right. Got to have your face on there, too.
Starting point is 00:41:12 We're going to have to get with T Publ because I'm tired of waiting. That sounds great. I'm tired of waiting for AJ. You ever see Steve-O's tattoo on his back or it's just his face doing a thumbs up? Yeah, yeah. Put your face. That's exactly what I was thinking. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:27 Face two thumbs up where there's a Phil, there's a way. Will you do it, Phil? Oh, absolutely. You're in? That sounds like a really cool T-shirt. See, now we got with the original logo T-shirt, our new logo. t-shirt, the We Don't Know Horror, and when there's a
Starting point is 00:41:43 Phil, there's a way. See, we're building up our merch. Wow. I got to drop a couple pounds for the photo shoot. Let's do it. We got to make this happen. Here, have another bill. Have another beer, Phil. I'm on my way.
Starting point is 00:41:59 All right. That is it for the trailer. Sorry, guys. That was the best thing I could find was a little teaser for Chuckie. I'm happy, dude. Just that the TV show's coming out, and it's going to be our real Chucky. And it's going to be what we heard about talked about at Frightmare three fucking years ago.
Starting point is 00:42:17 Yeah, I'm really happy that he was able to get it off the ground. Yeah. Well, not long, but on. All right. Before we get into listener feedback, I have some announcements here. Okay. Nice. So, uh, update on the action returns.
Starting point is 00:42:38 and stream fiends. We've talked about Neza's situation with the fires out there affected his internet. So we're not done. We're just on hiatus right now.
Starting point is 00:42:49 So we will be back. They literally burn through the fiber optic cable. Yeah. So that's how bad the cars were. Act is bad, bro. We will be back. Wrestling returns will be back.
Starting point is 00:43:01 I have a couple ideas for that show too. So we'll be back. Patreon News going to be starting a new tier system I'm going to announce some things right now the $1 tier you will get a shout out on the show
Starting point is 00:43:22 and a thank you for the support and you'll have access to exclusive content that I believe Lance and I will be doing Hannibal yeah we'll start we're going to start with that. Cool.
Starting point is 00:43:38 And Nez and I will be doing the new American Horror Stories. Ah, and then I think we need to have a sitcom called where there's a fill, there's a way. Yes. So with the dollar, you will definitely get our thanks on the show and you will have access to exclusive content that you can only hear on Patreon. I'd buy that for a dollar. Tier two will be the $3 tier. this is our you you can pick any two movies
Starting point is 00:44:09 for us to review on an episode that can be any movies and of course if you've heard our show before we've actually reviewed any kind of movie somebody's gonna pick porn I was just gonna say that was the one thing we didn't review yet
Starting point is 00:44:24 but if you pick it you just said yet if you pick it we have to well we've already done rom-coms right yeah and more on the way with Ness's picks, I think. Yeah, I've seen his picks, one of them I'm not too happy about. But we'll get there.
Starting point is 00:44:43 That's a strange cat, man. I appreciate you. Tier three will be our $5 tier. This will be our commentary tier. And you are definitely welcome to come on. This is, again, you can pick any movie for us to do a commentary on, and it will be an official episode to be put out on our main feed. And tier four, we will be getting our T-shirts up with T-Public, I believe. That's what we're going with Lance, right?
Starting point is 00:45:13 We're going to have to, man. We're going to have to. Like I said, I'm tired of waiting for the wife. Tier four will get you everything in the previous tiers. Oh, I forgot to mention. Every time you get a tier above the next one, you get everything. So tier four, you get everything from the previous three tiers plus a T-shirt. Backwards compatible.
Starting point is 00:45:36 Yes. Gotcha. So definitely. We're going to start making this patron, Patreon work for not only us, but for the people that are definitely gracious enough to support our show. Well, and then we can invest back into the show so that we don't sound like idiots every day. Which, I mean, of course we still will. But you higher quality idiots. It's kind of our genre.
Starting point is 00:46:03 I mean, cool. We don't know horror from... We really... I'm still stuck on that. We really didn't know who started the purge. That really was... Ask Darren. Yeah, listener feedback was like...
Starting point is 00:46:19 He was letting us know that the founding fathers started. And I was like, I knew that. Oh, yeah, yeah. So we didn't know that. Oh, we should have known that. Oh, we should have known that. Oh, no, dude, you can leave me out of that bullshit. Horror trivia is not where I live.
Starting point is 00:46:33 That just sounds like something I would have said, oh, it was the founding fathers. Right. The reality is. Instead of, I don't know. You see what happened was. But that's the announcement for Patreon. Those changes are coming soon. And action returns, stream fiends, wrestling returns, bonus episodes, everything will be back when we are able to do them.
Starting point is 00:46:59 They're not done. So. So fuck yeah, sign up for Patreon. We ain't fucking around no more. Nope. All right. All right. Listener feedback.
Starting point is 00:47:10 On the listener feedback. This week, the podcast spotlight. I have a problem with that word. Every time. And you're the one who says it every fucking week, man. Jesus Christ. The podcast spotlight shines on neon brainiacs. Neon Brainiacs is an 80s horror podcast with host Ben and Greg.
Starting point is 00:47:28 From the biggest blockbusters to the most obscured. shot on video deep cuts. No stone is left unturned regarding the 80s horror. Even pornos? Even porno. 80s pornoes? You got to have some badass
Starting point is 00:47:41 mustaches, right? Who wants a mustache ride? Do what, Brian? I've been listening to this show and I haven't heard any porn, but congratulations. They just had their 200 episode. Nice.
Starting point is 00:47:53 And they reviewed the Burbs. Fantastic movie. Is that horror, though? Good movie. It's more comedy. Okay. All right. Fair enough. I love that one. But yeah, look forward everywhere. Podcasts are found. Neon Brainiacs. Good show. Real quick. Also, I want to say congratulations to the podcast that wouldn't die. They also are celebrating their 100 episode.
Starting point is 00:48:22 Ah, they won't die. They wouldn't die. I remember those were milestones we hit that we just kind of didn't celebrate. Yeah. It's another, another episode for us. Just another day. Yeah. Regarding the amusement park again, we're talking about this fucking...
Starting point is 00:48:41 Oh, shit. Come on, man, again. Returns. This better be bead. No, it's Darren Wilson. Oh, he's going to correct us on something. Watch. He says, I haven't watched it yet, but hearing the beginning of your thing talking about the amusement park and elder abuse, Uh, wasn't that made originally in the late 60s, early 70s, during or just after the old
Starting point is 00:49:06 Americans act was making its way through the Congress and getting signed. Hmm. Uh, that was 65 or 66 signed by Johnson. Damn, that's even before I was born. That's, that's why I love Darren. There you go. He's not only educating us, but he's educating the listeners. There you go.
Starting point is 00:49:25 Definitely educating me because, uh, my answer to that was, I have no fucking idea. well we don't know horror and i guess elder abuse laws or i don't yeah well i mean you know before my time but yeah yeah i don't i don't remember that ever being a thing i don't know why i don't know why romero made this fucking movie he was he was contracted or not contracted he was uh paid to do it and then they seen what he made and they was like this isn't what we wanted And I'm just kind of like... It's supposed to be a public service announcement. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:05 You get someone that makes those. You don't get someone that kind of started the zombie genre, you know? Yeah, he's like, although people are zombies, huh? That would have been more interesting. Right, that's what I was saying. He could have gone crazier with it and made it pretty good. That would be more interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:50:22 But still had the same message, I think. Like we're all zombies for having to get credit. We're all zombies for having people. fix up our houses. We're all zombies for having to pay people to take care of us. Well, no, I mean, he was because it was about like elder stuff. And so, I mean, he, he did kind make a good point. I see where that happens where, you know, like, you get really old and suddenly you just get dismissed. Yeah. But mostly, it's because you can't remember who your kids are. Or maybe sometimes who you are. Yeah. I'm already there, dude. Yeah, I think, I think when we just,
Starting point is 00:50:56 we heard who directed it, we. Yeah, we expected it. Our mind. went somewhere else. Yeah. No, it definitely did not go there. I mean, you could make a badass horror movie in the amusement park. Am I right? What the fucking poster was amazing. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's not what we got. What are you going to do?
Starting point is 00:51:17 But there's your history lesson, guys. It came from some whatever was popular during that era. Regarding last week's show, hey, everyone, if you haven't had a chance to watch yet, Make sure to check out our head honcho Marcy Pupandria's latest guest appearance on the new episode of our good friends. The Horror Returns. You don't want to miss listening to this one. Oh, yeah. That's awesome.
Starting point is 00:51:42 I am so mad that I missed that show, guys. I'm sorry. I had some family down. And Marcy, I apologize to you because I really wanted to hang out and talk to you. Next time. Next time. I had seen my mom in like six months. All right.
Starting point is 00:51:58 I've seen my mom in like 10 years. Well, you're in fucking Alaska, dude. That's your own fault. Where's your mom, Brazil? I don't know. Houston? Although, to be fair. Not close with my mom.
Starting point is 00:52:12 I was just joking. I have no idea where she's at. Well, then that was a shitty joke on my part. I apologize. No, it's funny. Let me find that edit, but what's the timestamp here? No, leave it in. I'm sure she's fine.
Starting point is 00:52:27 I love you, mom, wherever you're at. She's probably listening, right? now. I mean, who doesn't? I mean... That's my son. He's a big podcast a star. Why was Brian's mother have an Italian accent? That's what I was going to have. My mom's Korean, so something's not right. Something changed since I've seen her. Hey, listen,
Starting point is 00:52:51 trust me, the Italian accent was going to be better than the Korean one. Let's move on. Lance, I'm still waiting on a proper Australian accent from you. Still little British. Still a little British. It puts some shrimp on the barbie. Still a little British.
Starting point is 00:53:10 That's pretty British. I got to fall into it. I can't just do it on the... Put some shrimp on the barber. What the fuck? Mentally challenged. All right, we're getting off the rails now because I don't know what accent that was.
Starting point is 00:53:31 Irish stripper. So yeah. Sorry, Marcy, I missed. And big news are really good friends. Cameron Sullivan and Heather Powell, both brought it to our attention that we, along with horror for dummies, both made Beadspot.com's 2021 list of the top 70 horror podcast
Starting point is 00:53:55 you must follow in 2021. Damn. How fucking awesome is that? That's humble. That's fucking humbling. Yeah. We just got done talking about how we don't know horror, but we don't deserve to be on any list, man. We're on a list where people should follow us.
Starting point is 00:54:13 You guys do. Y'all are really fucking smart on this. I'm surprised that you didn't nail the trivia. I'm the fucking moron. I think we knew it, Brian. We just didn't, it didn't pop into our head at that time. Yeah. That seems to happen a lot.
Starting point is 00:54:28 Put it on the spot. Yeah. So, yeah, super humbled by that. That is really fucking awesome. So yeah, go to feedspot.com, man. Check out their stuff. Yeah, and I checked out the list. I recognized some of the podcasts on there.
Starting point is 00:54:43 Yeah, several. It's number one. Yeah, truly an honor to be on the list with those podcasts. Yeah. And, in my opinion, horror for dummies should be ranked higher. Oh, yeah. Number one, right? And then lower it up should be number two.
Starting point is 00:54:58 Yeah. I'm fine with our 30s. Speaking of Australian accents, Tim. Help us out, yeah, might. Am I getting closer? You're doing okay. I don't know. Maddie fulpens.
Starting point is 00:55:17 Oh, wait. Never mind. Is she Australia? That was British. That's totally British. It takes place in London. London Town. All right.
Starting point is 00:55:28 the city of dreams somewhere Matt Matt is like what the fuck is going on right now Hollywood London town the city of dreams now you're doing moose doing a British accent doing moose doing a British accent
Starting point is 00:55:45 yeah that sounds about right there you go that was that was a good description of that all right regarding the upcoming movie old it's directed by George Romero no I'm kidding Um,
Starting point is 00:55:59 Um, uh, uh, Sheree Pierre says, uh, I'm excited about this one too. Yeah, we're going to review it next week,
Starting point is 00:56:08 right, Brian? Yeah. Yep. I am also excited. And I think there's, I'm, I think I've almost confirmed
Starting point is 00:56:16 there's going to be a scene in it where I'm going to feel very fucking weird and creepy. Uh, when the little girl gets pregnant. Yeah, because I'm like, who the fuck did that? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:26 I think I might even get upset. that. You think it's going to be the brother? No, I think it's one of the other kids. I think one of the adults, and I think I'm going to get fucking hella angry. And every time, if it is one of the adults, every time I see that actor, I'm always going to go back to. But you fucking did to that little kid in that movie. Yeah, but the little kid looked like she was 25 in the scene.
Starting point is 00:56:54 So, you know. Yeah, but you're there. You know. No, she's not. And he's an actor. That's what they do, huh? Well, I'm just cute. After Penelope Cruz was in Blow,
Starting point is 00:57:07 I hate her every time I see her. I had a lot of trouble with Patrick Wilson after Hard Candy. Yeah. A lot of trouble. He's finally won me over with The Conjuring movies,
Starting point is 00:57:19 but God damn, I fucking hated him for a while. Yeah. Credit to the actors, though. Yeah. No kidding. Well, the kid he plays, the kid who plays, uh, the kid who played Joffrey in Game of Thrones. He can't get work now.
Starting point is 00:57:31 Yeah, that makes sense. Nobody will fucking hire him. Because as soon as he walks in, they look at him and they're like, you're like, you little fuck, get out of my office. Move this man. Yeah, he played a very good, shitty character. I think I hate that guy. And he was so young at the time playing that character. Yeah. I think, the same as that kid in Harry Potter. or that blonde kid?
Starting point is 00:57:59 I haven't seen any of the Harry Potter. Oh, okay. Well, I've seen a couple of, but... I was kind of looked like Joffrey, but not quite as much of an asshole. They didn't really go anywhere. I mean, besides, what's his name? I just call him Harry Potter. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:14 He made a career for himself, because I think he kind of went the Elijah Wood route. Yes. And shows like interesting roles. The red-haired kid is in a servant, the M-night TV show. Yeah, but what was he in before then? Not much. well and uh her money is done a lot right yeah she was in the end of the world movie that they made the Seth Rovey thing whatever for five minutes
Starting point is 00:58:37 Jeff Green Seth Rogen Seth Oh when she thought they was all gonna rape her Yeah but who guys are discussing who's gonna rape me first Which Seth was it that did that movie Rogan? Seth Rogen Oh this is the end Yeah I was the chicken Seth Green
Starting point is 00:58:55 Best character name Danny McRide Yes, he's the best character in a lot of movies He had Channing Tatum as his little gimp Yeah That's a great fucking movie We need to review that way Yeah, we got to check that out again
Starting point is 00:59:11 Had Channing Tatum with his ass up in there Talk about I slide up in there whenever I want Wow And it did And then it was actually Channing Tatum That was something I was like wow When I was watching the movie right i know and man
Starting point is 00:59:28 shout out to shanning god damn damn it channing tatum channing tatum for doing that movie you know what i mean if you if you watch the movie like dog done himself for that one right when he's in the when danny mcbride's in the background with him like channing's like holding onto his leg humping his leg like he committed to that role he's a funny dude
Starting point is 00:59:50 yeah he is he was great in the kingsman movie yeah he was great in the 21 john street movies. One job street. Oh, very much so. Yeah. I'm, I kind of think,
Starting point is 01:00:01 I kind of think he would have fucked up if he did that Gambit role he was supposed to. Yeah. I know. That still may happen. That still may happen. We're in a multiverse of madness now, Brian.
Starting point is 01:00:12 Yeah, but get someone that's actually good at doing Cajun accent. Get an actual Cajun, maybe, for fun of sake. Why don't we get the Duck, Dynasty guy still show up in it? Well, not that kind of Cajun.
Starting point is 01:00:24 Are they still around? I need like Cajing Cajun. I don't think they're relevant anymore. That's what to say. All right. Sorry, we got off the rails again. That's not having a lot. Regarding American Horror Stories,
Starting point is 01:00:38 Stephen Loblad says, halfway through the first episode, not too bad so far. All right, so good things about that one. Josh Youngblood says the first episode was dope. Was it, Brian? I will give you guys my answer
Starting point is 01:00:53 when you're on Patreon. I wasn't disappointed, and I like the whole, these are going to be anthology stories. Right. Anthology stories with references back to past seasons. Yeah, because they have the rubber man in one of them, right? Oh, it's the murder. It's the murder house. Yeah, okay, cool.
Starting point is 01:01:19 And speaking of anthologies. We'll wait to listen. Regarding escape room. that's what it's probably I'm sorry we'll get there Matt Jones says I need to rewatch it myself
Starting point is 01:01:30 before I see the sequel and enjoy it the first time No you don't I kind of like it now it's not all right it's definitely not like that
Starting point is 01:01:43 that franchise that I can't wait for the next one yeah but if they put it we'll get there let's move on let's move on I can't wait to get we need to
Starting point is 01:01:53 We need to get to the main event here, guys. All right, well, we're getting there. Our show comes from Steve Carlton of the League of Geeks, and our artwork comes from Natsulani. And we already talked about all the Patreon stuff, so definitely help us out. Ten bucks, man. Get a T-shirt.
Starting point is 01:02:14 Pretty fucking awesome. Help a brother out. Yeah. And if you have a chance, please give us a five-star Apple podcast review, and you may win a steelbook DVD if your name is selected. We're like a legit fucking podcast. But are the steelbooks left?
Starting point is 01:02:28 We've got like 12 reviews in the last. Yeah, Lance, just pick a couple names. Yeah, we're going to have to go random at this point, huh? But I am... That's why we say you could win. We didn't say you would win. Yeah, yeah. I will...
Starting point is 01:02:42 You sound like a politician now. I know. I'll have an announcement here in a couple weeks. I think I'm putting together a pretty cool little prize. pack so nice nice all right but we got some steelbook copies going out we may have to put a hold on that thing for a second because we got something to go out we'll figure it out we'll figure it out all right on to featured attractions um this week we uh we need to work together and compete as we cover 2009 exam yeah wait a minute
Starting point is 01:03:21 Okay. Like a football team. There you go. 2009's exam and also the brand new escape room tournament of champions. Lance, I'm going to say now, be honest when we get to that movie. Oh, I'm going to be brutally honest, man. Again, I'm telling you guys, we need to start a band. The perfect name for the band is CGI Fire.
Starting point is 01:03:48 That's actually not a terrible. name for a fucking man. Actually, while you're talking, I'm into Google it and see if it's already taken. I don't think it is now that you said it. You put it out in the universe. I mean, sort of reminiscent of Arcade Fire, but I think it's not a bad idea.
Starting point is 01:04:06 Anyway. Probably a cover band for them. Yes, there you go. Except I'm not, I'm not playing the band. All right, we're going to start with the exam, though. I didn't mean for that to sound so negative. Oh, I think the names available, guys.
Starting point is 01:04:26 I think we can do this. Can we? Does anybody know how to play any musical instrument at all? Now we just got to learn the place of shit. We can get Nez to play drums, and then we all act like we're playing our instruments. We can all get on, Brian, we can all get on an ayahuasca, and Nez could just be doing the old drum. I can play a few Metallica wrists. Can you?
Starting point is 01:04:49 Yeah. Okay, well, then we're here. If I was on ayahuasca, I think I would think I know how to play instruments. It might sound differently in my head than to everybody else. It'd be one of those cutaway scenes where it sounds really awesome. And then it goes into, like, reality where there's no, like, background music and stuff. And it's just us playing flutes, like, real dumb. All right.
Starting point is 01:05:16 I'm sorry. That was cooler in my head. All right. So, exam, 2009, which is a movie I had never heard of before. I have heard of it. This was... I don't think I'd seen it. Lance, this was recommended to me by an unknown caller.
Starting point is 01:05:34 Oh, okay. Lance knows who I'm talking about. I know exactly who you're talking about. Oh, I know exactly who you're talking about. Sorry, sorry, Nate. That's his accent. Not an ex-axon, but That's right, that's right.
Starting point is 01:05:52 He's working on it. We'll get there. Eight candidates for a highly desirable corporate job are locked together in an exam room and given a final test with just one seemingly simple question. However, it doesn't take long for the confusion to ensue and tensions to unravel. Director is Stuart Hazeldyne,
Starting point is 01:06:13 also known for the shack. writer also steward the shack Shaquille o'neill that check I don't know what the shack is isn't a documentary about Shaquille O'Neal? I doubt it but that would be awesome I don't know I was what I'd watch that That's a giant human being
Starting point is 01:06:31 Um Writer is also Stuart Hazel Dunn with Sam and Garrity Uh Simon my bad He's not thought it was two people Sam and Garrity No, he's not a fish. The entire movie takes place in a single room.
Starting point is 01:06:50 I never noticed. Pledge of purposes. Yeah, that's a cool idea, actually. Never clicked until it just said that. Yeah, I never noticed that. On the 4th of September 2012, a stage adaption of the film opened in Manchester. In Manchester. In Manchester.
Starting point is 01:07:09 Yeah. With Tommy Shelby. All right. Lance, what are your thoughts on exam? Oh, man, boring as fuck. I'm sorry, yeah. Oh, good. You're going to have different opinions.
Starting point is 01:07:25 Cool. No, I just, I don't know, man. I don't know what I was expecting, Brian, but I thought that the, like, the poster looked really cool, where it shows somebody over a desk with a pencil or something like that trying to figure it out. And I thought the setup was great. Maybe I was just pissed off that they. Killed up, oh, spoiler alert. It came out in 2009, so.
Starting point is 01:07:48 They killed off the only actress I knew in the entire movie, Pollyanna McIntosh, early. She looks so, like, at first I didn't recognize her. I just was, I was hot, man. I was looking at her, and I was like, I know you. And then when they did a close-up, I'm like, oh. The trash woman from the Walking Dead, Brian. Yeah, I don't want to call her the trash woman, though. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:08:14 It's supposed to show up in this movie that was announced five years ago. I like those movies that she was in, a woman. Oh, yes. Yes, yes. Yeah, those are great. Yeah, but I don't know, man. That's kind of bored the hell out of me. I just thought it could have been a lot more.
Starting point is 01:08:31 Which one did you watch first? Exam or escape room? Yeah, exam. Okay. Yeah, I watched it first, man. And I was just, I thought they could have been tons more clever with some of the stuff that you're like, where they were like putting water on the paper and then saying, well, maybe there's some kind
Starting point is 01:08:48 of chemical in the water, but if the chemical lands on us, is it going to burn us? And this is just fucking silly to me. I can't read my paper. It's all yellow. I don't know, man. It's going to get sillier tonight, believe me. But I don't know. Not my cup of tea, gents.
Starting point is 01:09:08 You're trying. You're trying. I'm getting there. I'm getting there, man. It was a British movie, right? Yeah, practice makes perfect. That's true. Brian, what do you think? I do kind of agree. It was a little boring at times.
Starting point is 01:09:25 I do like to set up. I do like the fact that we know they're going for this corporate job, and we don't know what it is. Yeah. And I kind of like that they didn't really focus on that. They kind of focus on the, I guess you would say, the contestants or whatever for, the job.
Starting point is 01:09:45 Yeah. I kind of felt like the added pandemic virus thing was just kind of not needed and thrown in there. Yeah, it kind of was. And it didn't really change anything, did it? No. And I honestly, I thought this movie was going to be a little bit more ruthless and violent. When things started actually getting gone, I thought it was going to just kind of go off the rails. and I'd say it went pretty fucking off the rails for a guy
Starting point is 01:10:17 I was like what is the matter with these people yeah and I really did like the end of when you figure out what the question was and what the answer was for the question it made sense if you just go back and listen to what I was saying I was like that's kind of fucked up but kind of clever at the same time it is but it's kind of a fucked up that well I guess we're doing spoilers. It is kind of fucked up that such a simple, like, stupid brain teaser type of question.
Starting point is 01:10:53 I feel like that's something my nephew would tell me, who drives me up the fucking wall, by the way. Sorry if you're, he's not listening. Shout out to the one actor, though. We're like, I'll tell him one question and he's like, oh, you already asked a question. If I'm like, hey, can I ask you a question? He's like, oh, you already did? Now you can't ask me
Starting point is 01:11:16 What were you going to say about the actor, Brian's shout-up? The security guard. Ah, yeah. I got to do this joke. Yeah. And I don't know. There's just at times when I like the asshole guy, Mr. White, because we're in reservoir dogs for a second.
Starting point is 01:11:39 Yeah. He, I don't know. just the way his character came off I thought he would have just been a little bit more after getting the people out instead of just kind of like oh I made you tear your paper
Starting point is 01:11:55 oh he needs to go you know just I was just kind of like just kind of down for as much of an asshole as he was there was like no real redemption arc and then he really didn't I mean yeah it seemed like he would have been more of an asshole either more of an asshole or have something
Starting point is 01:12:13 redeeming it was like at times he was smart and then he became stupid. Like he figured out that you needed the fingerprints of the security guard to shoot the gun. Yeah, right. When the end came
Starting point is 01:12:26 and he wanted to take his own life, did you just automatically get dumb and just forget that you needed his fingerprint? I just felt like there was choices made that were smart and then we're stupid. Stupid people. That was a question I had
Starting point is 01:12:44 also, like, These people were acting like they were getting thrown into a fucking furnace. Yeah. When they got kicked out of the room. Oh, you didn't get the job. That's what I wanted. And some of the contestants, I didn't understand why they would even allow them to be there when you find out what the job is actually going to be. Like the guy that was torturing the woman with the paper cuts.
Starting point is 01:13:12 I might sound a little fucked up, but I kind of wanted to see the paper cut on the eye. Right. Oh, that'd have been fucked up, man. But I do see what he was saying of the actual thought of it happening. Yeah. It was more scarier than it happening. So it was a way for him to get her to talk.
Starting point is 01:13:33 But why would you have that guy for that job? Also, why, how did it get to that extreme? If you're competing for it. a fucking job. Let me cut your eyeball open. And if they didn't get it, they just walked him out and they said you're gone, right? It was like it felt like it was like life and death stuff and it wasn't. It was a weird premise for a movie. Now that you're saying that, maybe they should have said at least what the job could have been. Yeah. Then I would have probably understood more of why they're going to these links for this job. but it kind of sounded like they didn't even really know what the job was right yeah i don't think
Starting point is 01:14:15 that they did they were just like i don't know it pays good there's benefits i'm gonna cut your eyeball open to make sure that i get it instead of you by the way i have a virus and they have the cure how do you oh and then we find out she works for them yeah and i'm like so we're supposed to trust her for the rest of a movie yeah probably not a good idea uh yeah it was it was a weird one Having said all that, those are some of my cons. I like to kind of point out plot holes sometimes. Right. But the movie was pretty entertaining.
Starting point is 01:14:50 I watched them in reverse order, so I saw an escape room before I watched this. They did fit together pretty well. Not to poise the bubble for the next one, but this was kind of refreshing. Hey, they did go together well, though, don't you think? Yeah. It's like they were, they were all competing, and yet they also had to work together, right? And I actually really liked the movie. I just thought it was a weird premise.
Starting point is 01:15:18 It was like, man, these people are going through some extreme shit to get a fucking job. Yeah, no shit, man. No, what if it turned out to be just a desk job? Yeah. Probably. You're about to cut somebody's eyeball. to sit in a cubicle You're the accountant now
Starting point is 01:15:35 Here's the books I don't know There was just weird behavior going on Saturday There's a lot of weird behavior going on Where clearly There was an asshole out of the group Uh yeah
Starting point is 01:15:49 Why not take him out Yes Right I mean the guy was clearly Giving nicknames off of race And I did laugh when he gave the one girl Oh you're dark because clearly she was moody
Starting point is 01:16:03 and but it was like racist was a variety of our dogs yeah it was like his attitude the way he talked to people and
Starting point is 01:16:14 he had no problem with getting anybody out like Pollyanna McIntosh I thought that was I actually thought that was a smart mood because she didn't realize she was burning her on paper yeah
Starting point is 01:16:25 yeah yeah I thought it was kind of start with that yeah I thought it was just kind of weird that they were so against like that was some kind of rule or something you couldn't get him out.
Starting point is 01:16:36 When the guy was like, you know, we can just open the door and just roll him out and he's out. But then the lady did bring up. Technically he didn't leave on his own. Right. Yeah. So you still get his ass out or write on his paper. If you spoil your paper accidentally or on purpose,
Starting point is 01:16:53 you're out. Why don't you just walk down the line, write a bunch of pencil marks on everybody else's paper? You would think. I think pissing on it would be spoiling it, but apparently not. It's all yellow. See, bad, we can't put music cues in anymore. At the end of the show, we can do that song.
Starting point is 01:17:13 It was all yellow. All right. Frank Zappa's got a song. Don't eat the yellow snow. Watch out where those huskies go. Yeah. It's a good life lesson. There you go.
Starting point is 01:17:31 Do not eat the yellow snow. All right. So let's do scores on this guy before we move on, Lance. Four on ten. Four. Ouch. Brian? Five.
Starting point is 01:17:42 Five. All right. Not bad. Yeah, I'm going to give it a five and a half. Okay. I don't hate this movie. For as much as I bitched about it and pointed shit out. I mean, hey, I'm going to do that with a lot of movies.
Starting point is 01:17:55 You sound like it was hit a door to two. I know. I did. I was talking a lot of shit because a lot of the stuff I was like, wait a minute, this is stupid. Yeah. But I do that a lot. It was kind of enjoyable.
Starting point is 01:18:06 It was interestingly shot. I like the cinematography. The acting wasn't bad. It was mainly the story. It was kind of... Yeah, it was just... Poked holes through it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:17 Yeah, fair enough. No pun intended, uh, with the paper. Yeah. If you're looking for holes, you can poke them in anything. Um, that maybe came out wrong. Uh, is... Let's move on to Escape Room Tournament of Champions
Starting point is 01:18:34 That is a Big name for this movie Yeah, very awkward Tournament of Champions, huh? I like how they said it in the movie Yeah, like four times You mean like a tournament of champions man? Is that my name?
Starting point is 01:18:48 Title card That's when the title should have popped up I know, yeah, there you go See, now you do some shit like that I'm going on into it. That would have been more like it. She says that and then just the music and then title card
Starting point is 01:19:01 That would have been great Would have been a lot better than the CGI Lightning and CGI Fire We've got to make a fucking movie guys Okay All right Six people unwittingly
Starting point is 01:19:13 Find themselves locked in another series of escape rooms Slowly uncovering what they have in common To survive Joining forces with two of the original Survivors they soon discover they've all played the game before
Starting point is 01:19:27 They didn't already know that All right. Director is Adam Robatel, also known for Escape Room, and The Taking of Deborah Logan. Good movies. Ah, that's one of my good ones. I like that one. Writers, there's Will Hanley, Maria Melnick, Daniel Tuch, Tush, Daniel Tush. That's going to be his name. Orin, Uziol, Christine Lov.
Starting point is 01:19:59 And the partridge and a pear tree. Oh, yeah, too many writers. Okay. I was like, I don't know why that was so much. I'm just trying to read the names, man. And Fritz Bomm. Gee, what could go wrong with that many writers? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:17 The first escape room in 2019 received more than $150 million with the budget of $9 million, which is a problem. That's a big problem. Because now we have this. What was the problem? It made $150 million on the budget of $9 million. Because now we have... That pays for about 12 more movies automatically, right?
Starting point is 01:20:41 That's the problem. That's the problem. You can't leave out what this movie you're going to make, so... Probably. Let's make it an even 15. Yeah. It pays homage to the Hunger Games, catching fire with the game. Ombage?
Starting point is 01:21:00 All right. Are we breaking lance? I thought Amunds was when you just barely referred to something. Then there's something called stealing the plot. But anyway, I'm sorry. Okay, I got you. I figured there was a joke in there somewhere and stinging it. Yeah, homage is generally very like on the surface and just barely there.
Starting point is 01:21:24 Okay. You have to really think of it to understand that it's going back to that movie. Well, let's then let's be. honest then the Hunger Games kind of ripped off Battle Royale. Oh yeah. Amage, Brian? So this is an homage to an homage. The Hunger Game is catching fire. With the game contestants being rounded up,
Starting point is 01:21:51 they rounded up the victors for their previous initial games and thrust them into an end game. With the two exception survivors of the previous game initializing What the fuck is? Who wrote this sentence? You're reading the script for Escape Room too right now. So, yeah, I guess it is a straight...
Starting point is 01:22:11 It didn't even click until I just read that, but yeah, it's a straight rip off of it. You've got to be a big Hunger Games fan to be like, hey, wait a minute. Yeah, that's true. I read the books. Yeah. Really? All right. So, Escape Room.
Starting point is 01:22:28 Lance, you want to go first on this one? Not really. No? I'll go. Oh, pass. Pass. Let me hit the pass. Let me. Let me, because I know where Lance is going, so let me go. All right. I'm going to get to the good points.
Starting point is 01:22:40 I did like that it was a continuation from the first one. It's true. Because I felt like if they would have just did a whole new story, people would have been questioning, well, what happened to the other two contestants after finding out this is not a spoiler? Because this is from the original movie that this is a big organization that does this. so I like that I liked some of the
Starting point is 01:23:07 I can't say escape rooms because I just kind of felt like they were traps that they had to get out of yeah they kind of were some of them were kind of creative and then some of them were just kind of fucking dumb yeah I didn't have a problem with anybody in the movie honestly they were neither okay or just
Starting point is 01:23:26 serviceable I guess is the word I'm struggling, guys. I'm trying to find good things. Oh, no, you're doing good, man. Thank you. I was trying to let you talk because I'm about to be like, the fuck they were.
Starting point is 01:23:46 Yeah, no, Brian, you sold me there for a minute, dude. Seriously, man. This is pretty people in peril number two. Yes, sometimes it's not bad. Pretty people in peril. Even though one of the girls I had a complete problem with, I couldn't tell you anybody
Starting point is 01:24:02 I could tell you Zoe and Ben just because we've seen them in two movies but everybody else was just kind of there the one girl no no no no no no no she did that like five times in the movie she was fucking annoying and I didn't
Starting point is 01:24:18 understand how she survived in an escape room especially yeah how did some of these idiots end up escaping the first room and this is not a spoiler because it was in the trailer, but I kind of want to see a backstory on the one girl who can't feel pain. Yeah, that would make sense. Because she drops a line where she said, can you imagine the escape rooms they planned out for me since I can't feel pain? He was the only interesting character to me.
Starting point is 01:24:46 Yeah. And the one that actually gave a shit, man. Like, I love Zoe. She's freaking gorgeous. But God damn it, that was terrible fucking acting. I'm sorry. It's like, here, read these lines. Okay, we're done.
Starting point is 01:25:05 Do you want me to look at the camera when I read them? Or to my co-stars? Yeah. And that's, that for me is what the whole movie sort of felt like. It was like sort of an anthology thing. It was like, and I bet you that's part of the reason there were so many writers is each one created its own room. Ah, you're probably right. You're probably right.
Starting point is 01:25:27 That makes perfect sense. And, but it was just, I don't know. It was like, hey, let's do one take of this. And all right, call it a day. We don't have the budget to keep going. We have $150 million. Yeah. Let's spend the rest on cocaine.
Starting point is 01:25:42 Yeah. There's be a way more fun. Yeah. The special effects in the beach room were pretty cool. Yeah. I'd say the beach room was kind of cool. Yeah, the beach room was pretty cool. I thought the bank was kind of cool.
Starting point is 01:25:58 even though I thought, realistically, nobody would have ever fucking got their way out of there. Well, shit, you have to go through like 17,000 books with 150 pages of ledgers in each of them to find one fucking clue. What sense does that make? And that was kind of the whole movie. It's just them screaming at each other. Oh, okay, guys, I go with this. What now? Yeah, that's what I say.
Starting point is 01:26:21 What the first one did better is they recognized who was good at doing those kind of things. Right. And they were listening more. This one, it was just more, let's yell until somebody has an idea. And then we'll not listen to that idea. And then they won't listen to the idea. What's with the Van Diesel looking guy that died immediately in the first train? He was there for five minutes.
Starting point is 01:26:49 What's that movie we reviewed a couple years ago with the Irish kid? Him and the Irish kid were like robbing houses and they robbed the Purple Man's house. and he had that lady chained up in there? Don't breathe? No. They were like, they were like ballet drivers, and they were like, while people were in a restaurant, they were like, yeah, he's from that movie. Sounds familiar before. Okay.
Starting point is 01:27:16 Yeah, he died quick. There was a bunch of kids who died quick. Right. Oh, did they? Yeah, there weren't that many deaths. If you didn't see it, it didn't happen. Which, I will say, led to a cameo from somebody that I did not know was in a movie. Was it a cameo, though?
Starting point is 01:27:36 Hey, was this movie an homage? We're just using words here. Okay. I won't say until spoilers, but I always enjoy seeing her on screen. Well, if you go on IMD now, I mean. Yeah. Well, but then I... My hope was.
Starting point is 01:27:56 was, oh, she's going to show up and save this movie because she's a real actress. It didn't happen. But my problem with her is, we'll get to it in spoilers, but it was a completely different character than the first one. And I was like, but you're supposed to be like this and you're supposed to act this way. I understand what has happened to you since the first one, but there's certain things. I was just kind of like, that doesn't go away for you. Yeah. And I was a little confused.
Starting point is 01:28:26 Oh, I can't wait to hear Lance's thoughts. I'm letting you guys go, go, go. Was there anything? I'll pass. Was there anything else? I can't really say anything else good. I mean, it definitely gave a whole new meaning to the term acid rain. That's for sure.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Yeah, that was actually, I like that scene. Let's see, what else? CGI fire. Lots and lots of CGI fire. I mean, like, I mean, we're talking 16-bit video CGO-I-5. Yeah, dude, it was fucking horrible, man. And so was the goddamn lightning on the train. And that's not giving you...
Starting point is 01:29:08 What do you want to have real lightning? Dude. You know what that looked like? You know what that looked like? You know what? I'm honestly, guys, when they had that scene, do you know, you know what? My mind flashback, too? What was that movie that we reviewed?
Starting point is 01:29:24 Warlock. Oh, I love that movie. Yeah, the movie's great. Remember the lightning bolts that came out of his hand and shit? That looked pretty much exactly the same to me, dude. It's like if you made $150 million on the first, why are you going so fucking cheap on this one? I guess it's all the crap that they put in the rooms,
Starting point is 01:29:45 like little books and toys, stuff like that. These kind of movies, you don't put a lot into the budget. That's why they make so much back. Yeah. And it's a shame, man. Lum House in A-24 have kind of shown that you don't need to put a big budget into a movie. You know what? I got my wish, didn't I, Brian?
Starting point is 01:30:05 I got my wish. I don't think it'll be on your top, bottom ten. I think it will. I think it won't. Really? I put my foot there. I will guarantee you, because, but I did like a couple of the characters in here. The one chick that would look like she was, or sounded like she was from the Bronx or something like that.
Starting point is 01:30:24 No, no, no, no, no. Yeah, that's the way. I kind of liked her, man. Oh, she was not smart. I don't want to call her down. She was the main one that I was like, how the fuck did you ever make it out of room? Yeah, I get it. I get it.
Starting point is 01:30:41 You guys are ready for scores? That's all you're going to say? There's not much to say. So you just want to talk about the lightning and the fire? That's it. Well, why do they make this movie, though? Because the first one made 150,000. I was talking about, like, okay, so let's just take one escape room, an early one, right?
Starting point is 01:31:00 So we don't spoil too much because we're not the spoiler section yet. So you really mean to tell me that you're going to be in a bank heist type escape room. And you're going to have shelves and shelves and endless shelves of ledgers. And you're really going to have, you got literally five minutes until the fucking door closes and lasers cut everyone in the room in half. And you really mean to tell me You expect everyone to look through Every one of those ledgers to find one clue And then piece it all together
Starting point is 01:31:31 What that clue means and how it relates To the fucking shit that's projected on the wall Because this is a goddamn tournament of champions You know what? They should have all died in that room If this was real life They would have all died in that room Oh yeah
Starting point is 01:31:46 No, they would have died on the train Yeah, that's also true Technically Although if this is real life That's also not how electricity works, but that's fine. And you're the electrician, you would know. Technically, there's a good chance Ben and Zoe would have died running around into alleys of New York. Yeah, I will say this, that dude that's stellar...
Starting point is 01:32:05 Oh, hi, homeless guy. Yeah, the quote-unquote homeless guy that still her purse, I could tell he was in on it because the dude looked like a fucking athlete. Yeah, no shit. Totally built and like running like the marathon. Oh, you must be a homeless Olympian. Right. Let me help you, sir. That was allegedly hasn't eaten for two days.
Starting point is 01:32:25 But he sure did have some energy. Oh, shit. He has some energy. But I like how they. Oh, New York. People just running around screaming for help. And they're just like, oh, you fucking asshole, get out the way. God damn it.
Starting point is 01:32:40 Somebody ran into me again. Fucking purses. It always happens at this time of the day when I'm in the subway. There's somebody running into me. Man, honestly, I can't. can't even think of a movie I've seen this year that's in the bottom 10 except this one. This is the first one that has, okay, well, let's do scores. See, these are all good.
Starting point is 01:33:02 That was good. That was good. Bloodthirsty, Brian. But I can't give it bottom 10. We just didn't eat, right? I don't think we got what they were trying to say. Shadow in the cloud. That was kind of dumb.
Starting point is 01:33:15 Shadow in the cloud was fun. The woman in the windows. See, I liked it more than you guys did. Voyager. Voyagers is a definite bottom 10 I watched the trailer Lance and it looks like something I'll never watch you don't need to
Starting point is 01:33:29 yeah I don't see too much in here I don't see it not happening brother I mean cutthroat city we can't consider that one that's not a horror sci-fi okay I can say that if it's going on your list because
Starting point is 01:33:46 this just been a good year for movies I can say that but I think if we had an average year of movies I don't think you would even remember this movie by the end of the year. Yeah, except I'm putting on my list. I'm keeping a list now. I beg to
Starting point is 01:34:04 differ. All right, well let's do scores and we'll see how that was. All right. Brian? Five. Five. Oh, shit. God damn, Brian. I didn't hate it. And I didn't, I didn't walk out the theater like grabbing one of the ushers
Starting point is 01:34:21 like what the fuck did you make me watch you know I just kind of it was what it was and will I ever watch it again? No. If they come out with a third one will I watch it? Probably yes. Will I expect anything more out of than what I got out of the first two?
Starting point is 01:34:37 No, it's just they're just they're kind of filler horror movies. Yeah, I mean I get it and I you know I didn't hate the special effect. The acting was just so fucking bad man. It was like you guys ragged on bye-bye man and I was like
Starting point is 01:34:52 oh that piece of shit dude this is way worse than bye-bye man this movie was no bye-bye man the darkness this is a hot mess whatever that uh that fucking unfriended dark web
Starting point is 01:35:07 those are every single any of mention has ended up on a bottom 10 for me yeah those are those are hall of fame those are THR Hall of Fame well because it's no too Jennifer is it well no oh my gosh you talk about number one
Starting point is 01:35:24 worse that was still number one all time but this one is definitely going to end up on my bottom 10 man I just I did not enjoy it I thought it was my wife was mad at me for taking her to this movie oh no AJ wasn't mad at me she just looked at me like that was fucking silly
Starting point is 01:35:41 what was that all about yeah it was 10 minutes into it and she looked over at me and goes This is going to be stupid, isn't it? I was like, yep. And it was. I'm going to give it a...
Starting point is 01:36:00 I'm going to give it a two. They had quality special effects and shit, and I do kind of enjoy the actors. But, like, they were better in the first. I like the first escape room. Wait. There you go. Sorry, man. The often is Philip.
Starting point is 01:36:18 the low man of the time. I know. But I, Phil, I kind of agree with you there. I think they were better than the first, they were better in the first one. Yeah. Zoe and Ben. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But I think they kind of I don't even know about that. I think they were.
Starting point is 01:36:34 And I think it was because, I think maybe because it was, I'm doing air quotes, tournament of champions. They tried to go, they tried to up the level on the rooms and everything. So I think they didn't really pay attention to the acting and they were
Starting point is 01:36:50 the story and acting was kind of secondary to the rooms and I think they tried Yeah, there you go You nailed it, dude That's exactly That's it right there Yeah, we know horror
Starting point is 01:37:00 That's the review for the entire movie Right there Wait till that comes up on a fucking Tribute What was the third clue In the second room Of the third part Of the escape room part two
Starting point is 01:37:15 Is that when we just get up And leave the trivia contest? The trivia is why does the escape room tournament of champions suck ass. Right. Brian, take it. Well, all right. Lance, what do you think? I'm above you.
Starting point is 01:37:33 Can you believe it? Yeah. Yeah, two and a half. Two and a half. I had a little bit of fun, and like I said, I did like a couple of the characters a little bit. Yeah, like I didn't hate them as people. Yeah, I didn't hate them as people. Like the, I don't know if it was the writing.
Starting point is 01:37:48 or the acting or whatever was bad. It just seemed very, hey, I need you to say this line and I'm going to film it, okay? Yeah, I got you. Yeah, their acting was... Okay, done. Their acting was the definition of phoning it in.
Starting point is 01:38:02 Yeah. There it is. Do you want me to emote more? And they were like, no, we don't care about what you're doing. It's all about this trap that you guys are going to be... I mean, escape room. You only got one to take with this special effects, okay? Doesn't matter how much emotion you put into it.
Starting point is 01:38:18 But if we don't get this shot right with the room, we've just lost the entire day. Yeah, right. You guys ready for the twist? Are we going to do spoilers? Spoilers. Deborah Ann Wool, like I said, love to see her on screen. She is beautiful. She is definitely not what I go for in a woman as far as looks.
Starting point is 01:38:43 But she is beautiful. I had a problem with the way her character was. Okay, Lance, when your favorite CGI fire came out. Right. According to the first one, she is deathly afraid of fire. And I didn't feel like that. Oh, yeah. I felt like she was able to walk away and calmly duck out of the way
Starting point is 01:39:02 instead of what I believed in the first one. Yeah. Plus she created the escape room, right? Yeah, because she's a master gamer because she fell to her death. That made no fucking sense. And landed on a mattress. I understand why you want Zoe because she figured out your shit.
Starting point is 01:39:23 Right. She figured out a way to get out of the room other than the way that you wanted her to get out the room. So I understand why you want her to be your next game maker or game. Makes sense. Fucking person. But Deborah Ann, what was her character? Amanda, you made her one.
Starting point is 01:39:43 And she fell to her death allegedly. What made you think that she was good at making Well, remember she sacrificed herself for the team, remember? I guess. And she's a veteran. So, you know, you got to give the veterans their special perks, right? Yeah, that was deathly afraid of fire. And she's famous and super hot.
Starting point is 01:40:07 And she quickly turned on the organization to help them, even though they still have your fucking daughter. Yeah. Well, yeah, that's good point. I'm not helping you. You got my daughter. For all I know, they didn't kill my daughter because I didn't, you didn't go along with what they wanted you to. True, true.
Starting point is 01:40:32 She got to at least see proof of life, right? If they even have her daughter, because I did like that point of the story that if you didn't see it, did it happen? Yeah. So they may not even have her daughter. Because the one stupid guy could still be alive. The guy that kept trying to sacrifice his life for everybody. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the priest.
Starting point is 01:40:53 He just went down on the sand. Yeah, right. The only people I'm pretty sure died was the two other ladies in the acid ring. Acid rain. If they're alive, they're not looking to it. That was kind of a shitty one. How are they supposed to do that? Yeah, it was kind of dumb.
Starting point is 01:41:11 Yeah, I think, another thing I had a problem with I don't think it was designed for anybody else to win except for Zoe Right Not even to win but her to go to the end to find out that we want you to be the next Puzzle game room Master Chief whatever the fuck I think
Starting point is 01:41:33 I want to play some Halo now You need to get on that airplane You need to get on that airplane. I do I do like the callback to the end, though, of the first one with the airplane. Yeah. Yeah, but did it make sense, though, really? I mean, come on. It will in part three.
Starting point is 01:41:51 Sure. The tournament of tournament. I got you. The tournament of champion, champion? The game maker. Hey, that'd be a great title for it, actually, man. Yeah, it was just kind of... One of the 17 writers writing it.
Starting point is 01:42:06 Can me credit. There was a lot of things that just kind of... were telegraphed that you just kind of knew like the FBI guy at the end. There's no way he's going to, hey, I'm FBI agent Freddy. I'm a creepy fucking weirdo that works for the organization.
Starting point is 01:42:26 What was the organization? Mero? The founding fathers of America. Minos, me knows, that was what, see, I'm trying to, trying to answer our own questions. You're on the trivia on that one. Trying to answer our own questions. It was Minos.
Starting point is 01:42:42 There you go. Bezos. Yeah, there was just stuff like that. Like you guys brought up, like the junkie. He clearly wasn't who he was pretending to be. Yeah. The FBI guy wasn't who he was. Yeah, pretty clearly.
Starting point is 01:43:00 And like just how much money do they have to spend on props and shit that they can actually build a whole fucking police station and literally a city at the end where, we're still inside the game. But you're in fucking Times Square or something. If Minos is actually Amazon, they do have the money to make anything. That's true. All right. Well, maybe then this is a cautionary tale, huh? Amazon is in our lives every day.
Starting point is 01:43:28 This maybe may be ahead of us, huh? Maybe we just didn't get it. Maybe both the movies are together. They win, they get the job as an Amazon shipping person. Oh, that would I would not like that I almost got my eyeball cut and I'm going to work in the shipping department
Starting point is 01:43:49 at Amazon All right, now go deliver this package What the fuck? Yeah, for $12 an hour Was there anything else? Like I said, I liked a girl that couldn't feel pain Right, I like her It's actually pretty cool
Starting point is 01:44:07 I'll give her credit I never had a problem with any of the lines that she delivered, I don't think. I hated the other girl. No, no, no, no. That's the only one I liked, man. So you like the one that gave off a vibe that she could never survive anything? She absolutely did because she totally broke down every time anything happened. That's what I liked about her, man.
Starting point is 01:44:28 She was more real. That's how you died quick. But say really stupid. Yeah, Ben was kind of the... actually, I would say he's kind of the same as the first one, because he was just kind of stupid. Yeah, but he was familiar in the first one, I thought. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:44:47 Because they said something. There was a line, something. It was like a, he said something obvious, and I assume that everybody in the theater was supposed to laugh. I can't think of what it was, but it just kind of made me roll my eyes. Yeah. One of those.
Starting point is 01:45:03 Yeah, there's a couple. Ben, you're better than that, or at least according to the first movie. Yeah. Yeah, see, and I like both of those kids from the first movie. But, like, and in this one, they just weren't there. I think I was most disappointed with the main character chick. Zoe? Yeah, it was Zoe.
Starting point is 01:45:20 Like, her, acting as a hobby for her? What's going on here? She's the model slash actor. Kind of wish she was a little bit more of a stronger character. Yeah. After dealing with, she had to deal with in the first one. Yeah. Well, and I really liked her in the first one.
Starting point is 01:45:38 but man, there was a whole lot of garbage lines delivered in this one. And even this, even this movie had one of those stupid dream sequences, right, where they were in the hotel room. Oh, of course. And he thought that it was shrinking on it, whatever. What was he going to climb under the bed? Ben, you idiot. I don't know. He should have at least been smart enough to say, come out with the key, like when she's sitting in the car and say, hey, sorry, all they have was one king bed.
Starting point is 01:46:04 That's what I would have done, right? There you go. So he already showed his stupidity Yeah, he wasn't getting nowhere Zoe Yeah, probably not You don't want to hear you're my best friend So yeah
Starting point is 01:46:17 Yeah, definite friend zone You guys ready to wrap it up Yeah, let's do it I don't think we're reaching If we try to continue to talk about this move There's just not much to spoil in this one, right? It's all in the trailer Yeah, there was
Starting point is 01:46:30 Also nobody really gives a shit Yeah, there was There was a champions in a tournament of escape rooms and somebody escaped, kind of. Let's hope next week is better, right? I hope so. All right, well, we want to thank you guys for all listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and reviews.
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Starting point is 01:47:25 it's a salute to M. Knight and we're going to check out the brand new movie Old as well as the visit. Is that right Brian? Yep, and I'm a pre-warned everybody. I am going to rip apart that little kid from the visit. Well, if we're into the visit... If we're into the visit, can we go ahead and do the amusement part, too?
Starting point is 01:47:44 If you want to talk about it for a third week in a row, sure. I'm not going to re-watch it, but we can talk about it. I'm pretty sure we've all given... I think we've got explained everything in the movie. It's not very long. All right, Philip, until the horror returns again. Good night.

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