The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #273: Panic Room (2002) & Don‘t Breathe 2 (2021)

Episode Date: August 18, 2021

This week, we are joined by very special guest Chad C., host of BingeViews at BingeMedia.com. We check out Don't Breathe 2 and Panic Room. Cool of the Week includes Free Guy, Marvel's What If, and The... Ritual. Trailers this week are Midnight Mass and Prisoners of the Ghostland. The podcast spotlight shines on Heroes and Droids, And we get feedback from Daeron Wilson, Vanessa McEnery, Al Ramseur, and Dark Night of the Podcast. Thanks for listening!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Ladies and gentlemen, this is Bruce Campbell, and you are listening to The Horror Returns. Greetings, victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify goal, welcome, you have found a place where the horror returns. Listeners beware This podcast contains major plot spoilers And the foulest of language Join us In celebrating the old and the new
Starting point is 00:00:48 The best and the worst In horror Welcome back one and all to the horror returns I'm not Lance am I Hmm, that's what it says on the script. This is Philip. Lance is out again. But with me as always,
Starting point is 00:01:11 is Brian. And tonight we're joined by a very special guest, Chad C. How's going, guys? That's a man. It's going good. It's been a minute. I think the last time I did a show with you guys was
Starting point is 00:01:24 last fall for the John Carpenter Apocalypse trilogy. So it's been a little while. Yeah. And you shame me for, never seen an in the mouth of madness. That's right. I forgot about that.
Starting point is 00:01:39 Forgive and forget, Brian. Yeah. Yeah. Well, we'll jump right into Cool the week. Chad, you've seen anything good this week? Yeah. So, I've got a couple here. I don't know how many you guys want me to touch on, but I got like two movies and one TV show.
Starting point is 00:01:59 Yeah. Many as you want. All right. Yeah. So for TV, I'll hit that first. I caught up on the show Mr. Inbetween. Have you guys heard of this show? I have heard of it. Yeah, okay. So it finally wrapped. The series finale just happened like about a month ago. It's a three-season show. It's an Australian show, but it airs in the U.S. on FX.
Starting point is 00:02:21 It is created and written by Scott Ryan and then Nash Edgerton, who is Joel Edgerton's brother, directs all the episodes. It is a He's a Scott Ryan plays a character named Ray Shoesmith He's a hitman It's a dark comedy But he
Starting point is 00:02:38 He's trying to balance all the shit He's doing With these jobs With his He's got a daughter at home His ex-wife He's got friends That got his shoes
Starting point is 00:02:48 So it's really just Kind of slice of life Dealing with this guy And everything that he goes through But it's a It's super underrated Man It's really really well written
Starting point is 00:02:57 Scott Ryan's like a tour to four performance here He's the reason alone to watch it But I think if like If you're a fan of like justified Or Breaking Bad or any of these type of shows I think this is right up Your Alley It's 26 total episodes for the series
Starting point is 00:03:12 And each episode is about 22 to 29 minutes apiece Really really solid though All around I would give like the whole like three episode series Or three season series Probably like a nine on 10 Overall It's really really solid
Starting point is 00:03:25 And then for movies, I've got a couple. I've got Val, the documentary on Amazon Prime about Val Kilmer. Either do you guys check this out? No, but I've heard of it. Yeah, it's on the docket, but I heard it's a little bit sad. Yeah, oh yeah. It's pretty fucking depressing. Yeah, I mean, it's narrated by his son, Jack, who sounds a lot like him.
Starting point is 00:03:52 You know, go figure. His son sounds like him. Strange, right? But, yeah, it's, it's, yeah, he, he, Valcomers apparently, like, compiled just hours and hours of footage, like, home movies for, like, 30 years. Like, he just has a warehouse full of, like, just stock footage, like, 16mm film, 35 millimeter film, like, all this shit that he's just, he's just shot behind the scenes of, like, Top Gun and all of his movies and everything. Really? Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's, it's really, really cool. And it goes year by year kind of touching throughout his career and it deals with, like, how.
Starting point is 00:04:25 he was always had this label of hard to work with and touches with that and just a lot of self reflection on this guy's acting career and kind of where he's at now and what uh you know his voice is completely taken from him and so he's he's dealing with that it's really really really solid man it's uh really really sad though like like brian said it's it's it's it's not uh i mean if you like val kilmer even if you don't like valcimer i think you can get something out of this though it's uh it's it's It's very, very solid watch, though. I wouldn't, I wouldn't be surprised if this gets like an Oscar nod for, you know, Beth's Doc come award season time, but it's very, very solid all around.
Starting point is 00:05:05 For that one. I'll definitely get that out, man. Yeah, yeah. Best on Amazon, right? Yeah, hour and a half. Yeah, touched on Tombstone, too, a lot. Yeah, hour and a half on Prime, Amazon Prime. It's streaming now, but yeah, it's very, very solid watch.
Starting point is 00:05:20 All right. And then. The final one is Free Guy that is the new Ryan Reynolds vehicle that is in theaters right now. Oh, I'm just. Just got greenlit for a sequel. Really? Yeah. How'd that happen?
Starting point is 00:05:37 It did well. The first trailer for this, I believe, was like December of 2019. So, I mean, you know, this dealt with a pandemic, getting pushed around release date. But 20th Century Studios and Disney held firm that they wanted the releases in theaters. and just getting a 45-day exclusive window. This movie is just really a good time all around. Like it sometimes, and especially like right now, it's just a feel-good movie.
Starting point is 00:06:05 It's nothing really that you haven't seen before. It's like kind of equal parts like Truman Show, Reck It Ralph, Ready Player 1, all these kind of elements thrown into this video game world. But the cast is really, really solid here. The CGI is actually surprisingly really, really well done. a lot of cool cameos. I just had a really good time.
Starting point is 00:06:25 It's not like the best comedy I've ever seen by any means. But like I said, sometimes you just need a fucking feel good movie. And that's really what this movie is. So, yeah, I really enjoyed Free Guy. So those are my cools of the week. What about you guys? Nice. Phil, I only got one, so I'll go.
Starting point is 00:06:45 Okay, go for it. Yeah, a busy week. So just a lot of TV, trying to catch up on Shits Creek. finish that series and a lot of Hell's Kitchen but Lance would probably be yelling at me because he wants a definitive cool to week to put down and I'm gonna go with Marvel's What If I really enjoyed the first episode um I liked the animation a lot it just seemed like a comic book come to life and this first episode was uh if uh Peggy Carter took the Super Soldier Serum instead of Steve Rogers.
Starting point is 00:07:25 Okay. And I really dug it and I kind of want a Captain Carter series or live action movie or something. It'll probably never happen, but I enjoyed the character that much. So I would have to say that's my cool of the week. That one's on Disney Plus, right? Yeah. Yeah, I've been wanting to check that one out too. I just saw it today.
Starting point is 00:07:47 I sat down with my daughter last night and asked her if she's eight. So this may not have been the best idea. I asked her if she wanted to watch a scary movie with me. And so we just went on Netflix and started screwing around and scrolled past the ritual. And I know that I've seen it, but I don't particularly remember it. So we watched that one together. It's a creepy fucking movie, man. I like it a lot.
Starting point is 00:08:19 The great creature design. Yeah, that's the, like in the woods, right? The, like, Swedish mountains or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, these four British guys go out into the Swedish mountains and run across some witches or an ancient god or something, whatever it is. Yeah, it's a very, very heavy movie, pretty creepy. and she handled it like a champ, man. She did pretty good.
Starting point is 00:08:46 Nice. I got a little horror fan of my hands. Hell yeah. And you mentioned Hell's Kitchen. I've been watching Kitchen nightmares, man. I don't know what it is. I'll put it on to go to sleep. Something relaxing about him yelling at people.
Starting point is 00:09:02 It really is. I don't understand it. But yeah, that's all I got. We'll move on to horror headlines. All right. start with some TV news Catherine Zeta Jones and Luis Guzman
Starting point is 00:09:18 have joined Jenna Artega for Tim Burton's Adams Family series on Netflix titled Wednesday Oh Okay Is it animated? It's going to be live action
Starting point is 00:09:31 Okay cool Catherine Zeta Jones I like that Yeah I can see hers That pretty easily Yeah Goosbon is Yeah I like Lose Goesbon Yeah
Starting point is 00:09:41 Casting there Yeah, it's going to be interesting. Let's see here. FX has already renewed what we do in the Shadows for our fourth season. And yeah, the upcoming third season is coming out, I believe, early next month. A couple weeks, I think, yeah. Damn, I got to catch up. That's good.
Starting point is 00:10:05 Anybody interested in the Alien FX series, you're going to have to wait until 2023. I'm excited Are you? Yeah, I mean It's kind of hard to get excited about them Because you know, Alien stuff is hit or miss Yeah,
Starting point is 00:10:22 Yeah, that's the thing I'm excited because out of Ridley Scott's hands now Right? I mean, I don't get me wrong. I love Ridley Scott. Alien one and two are masterpieces. Like,
Starting point is 00:10:31 I mean, he created Blade Runner. I fucking love it, really Scott. But the last couple of alien movies have just left something to be desired for me. So I think this whole property in another person's hands.
Starting point is 00:10:43 And especially Noah Hawley, who, you know, Fargo is fantastic. I've never, never completely finished Legion. But regardless, I, I'm excited to see what this property is and someone else's, you know, see what they do with it at least. So I'm intrigued. I'll put it to that. Oh, for sure. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:10:59 I was not like, ah, damn it, it is coming out later. It's not necessary. It's not like I'm pan. I needed an alien show by any means. But, you know, we'll see what we get here. I hope it's awesome. Yeah. absolutely.
Starting point is 00:11:13 All right. Bad Robots Company, that's JJ Abrams company, they were doing a Shining series titled to Overlook. HBO Max has passed on it, but they are still making it, and they are going to shop it to
Starting point is 00:11:28 other streaming services. Wonder why they passed? You never know these days. You never know. Streaming companies pass on things, cancel things. Yeah, HBO would have been a Would have made me want to watch it more
Starting point is 00:11:47 I would like to see what Dr. Sleep has done Like streaming for them or anything like that Because I think that's on HBO Max But it didn't do well in the box office Because they just fucked the marketing up so bad on that thing Like no one knew Yeah, I love I actually really really like Dr. Sleep
Starting point is 00:12:01 But it did like it They could have you know Tagline or not even tagline The Shining presents Dr. Sleep or something But no one knew what the fuck Your general public audience Outside of our little horror bubbles and movie lover bubbles didn't know what the hell it was.
Starting point is 00:12:15 Like, it even was a sequel to The Shining. So, yeah, that didn't help. It's box office by any means. They didn't do any favors either. I think they released it two weeks after Halloween as well. So it's like, what are you guys doing here? Yeah, and it was going up against something that it had no business going up against. Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 00:12:30 The director's cut is even better, I think, of that movie, too, if you haven't seen that. Oh, yeah. I haven't seen it. All right. I think that's an option to watch on HBO Max, too. Oh, nice. good. Let's see.
Starting point is 00:12:42 What do we got for TV? Last little bit of TV news. Stranger Things Season 4. It's not coming out until 2022. Okay. But that's okay. We're going to be like 25, man.
Starting point is 00:12:57 It's okay. We're getting Cobra Kai in December. Okay. All right. A couple of little things for movie news. Shutter has acquired Eduardo. I'm sorry if this is where I start to butcher names.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Vittalettys, the last thing Mary saw, which we're going to have a review coming. They let me have a chance to check it out before it's released. So look for that on Shudder coming soon. Nice. Robert Rodriguez has signed a first look deal with HBO and HBO Max, and he is going to be targeting some of his existing properties. So we're getting like three more Shark Boy and Lava Girl movies or something?
Starting point is 00:13:39 You know what? I didn't even think about that, but that'll probably happen. I know for sure we'll probably get some sort of continuation of Alita. Oh, okay, yeah, yeah. I never saw that. Was it any good? It was pretty good. I mean, it wasn't nothing I probably would have been talking about at the end of the year.
Starting point is 00:14:01 Yeah, I know. Yeah, I mean, it was entertaining enough. I don't think I would ever watch it again, but I think the CGI and stuff is actually pretty decent in it. I just couldn't get past the fucking giant ass bug eyes that she Yeah, I think a lot of people Didn't know that it was I believe it was a manga or
Starting point is 00:14:18 anime. Yeah, exactly. They weren't understanding why she looked like that. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, her eyes were pretty fucking big. Yeah. Like weirdly bug big, yeah. And our last bit of movie news,
Starting point is 00:14:34 uh, filming has wrapped on Making Blair as the toxic Adventure remake. Jesus. The stars Elijah Wood and Peter Dinklage. Kevin Bacon as well.
Starting point is 00:14:48 Kevin Bacon, yes. Yes. The villain is Kevin. Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I fucking love me some Toxic Avenger, but this is like PG-13. I don't know how I feel about it. I love making Blair, but I'm just, I'll watch the movie. I'll go in
Starting point is 00:15:04 with an open mind, but I don't know how you're making Toxic Avenger or PG-13 property by any means i think that's where it kind of hooked me was making blair because i've pretty much enjoyed everything he's been involved in absolutely he's fantastic and somebody said that peter dinklage was the toxic avenger i believe so yeah oh how would it be it was like just a tiny toxic adventure it's got to be he's got to be tiny toxic i think and then nobody acknowledges it we might to throw that on the schedule. I'm sold.
Starting point is 00:15:40 Have you guys ever touched on the OG Toxic Avenger? It's, I've been, I have a list of movies that I keep for when we got to throw something on the schedule and I just been waiting for something to pair it up with, but they're doing a remake. I said, yeah, you got your perfect companion there, yeah. Yeah, I haven't seen it since I was little. It's insane. Lance is going to hate that episode so much.
Starting point is 00:16:07 And, yep, that is the news. All right. We'll head on down to the trailer park. We're bringing you the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what's our first trailer to talk about this week? All right. Our first one is a new Netflix series from Mike Flanagan titled Midnight Mass. Let's see, quick synopsis, an isolated island community.
Starting point is 00:16:37 experiences miraculous events and frightening omens after the arrival of a charismatic, mysterious young priest. This stars Alex Esso, Kate Siegel, Henry Thomas, Rahul Aboori, Crystal Belint, Matt Biddell, and others. This is, of course, directed by Mike Flanagan, Chad. Making a call back to Dr. Sleep there, and director of Dr. Sleep. Yeah. Yeah, this looks interesting, man. I've actually never seen
Starting point is 00:17:09 Haunting a Hillhouse or the follow-up. They were on the docket always and I just never got around to them. That was great. Yeah, but I like Flanagan's director overall. I think Hush is a pretty decent movie. But yeah, this looks good. Like weird, creepy, culty
Starting point is 00:17:25 religion on an island. I'm there for it all. It's like seven episodes, I think, too, right around Halloween. It seems like perfect timing. So, yeah, I'll definitely check this out. Okay. Yeah. seven episodes. I think I can be sold on it.
Starting point is 00:17:40 There was nothing really in the trailer that stood out to me, but just given the director and the situation seven episodes, I'll take a dive into this. Yeah, Dave had me at Mike Flanagan. He's, again, like Macon Blair, I've pretty much been into everything he's done. Really enjoy his wife whenever she pops up. Kate Siegel, Alex S.O.
Starting point is 00:18:09 I like her a lot too. Starry eyes. Yep, she was supposed to be a Texas Frightmare, but I believe she was one of the many people that had to cancel because of the rescheduling. So, yeah, definitely going to check this one out. This actually comes out
Starting point is 00:18:28 September 24th. Yep, Chad, you were right, seven episodes. Perfect. Nice. and our final trailer is Nicholas Cage's Prisoners of Ghostland How many fucking movies is I going to do?
Starting point is 00:18:47 I did think it was funny in our group chat that you're like, it's like five in the last few years and I mean I think it's like five alone this year It might be. It seems like every couple of months He's got some new random ass crazy fucking movie He's got Willys Wonderland, Pig, and this alone this year. at least.
Starting point is 00:19:06 Fives what's came out. That's not how many he's filmed this year. So you got some tax problems going again, or what? I know he said he's not doing blockbusters no more. Well, obviously. I mean, like, as far as accepting roles, like, I guess this is what he wants to do, these type of genre films. I'm kind of okay with that.
Starting point is 00:19:29 Yeah, I think there's a handful hit or miss here with him. I mean, I absolutely love Mandy, and we've talked about that before on this show when I've been on. I love that movie. Colorado Space, I can take it or leave it. It was fine. I never saw Jiu-Jitsu from last year. Never saw Willie's Wonderland from earlier this year either, actually. Jiu-Jitsu is so bad.
Starting point is 00:19:51 It's good. Yeah, okay. I haven't seen that one either. That's on Netflix, I think. Okay. But like Pig from a few weeks ago, that's one of my favorite movies of the year, probably. And it's like... Mine, too.
Starting point is 00:20:02 Yeah, it's not... Watch that one. It's not even crazy Nick Cage. It's nothing what you expect. He's just, like, subdued, and it's, like, a really personal, like, hits you in the, in the feels, like, really good. But, yeah, man, I don't, I've never actually seen any of this that this director is done. He's apparently a pretty famous Japanese director who just does, like, crazy bad shit stuff. And this movie looks pretty bad shit insane from the trailer.
Starting point is 00:20:26 Yeah, let me give the listeners a little synopsis. A notorious criminal must break an evil curse in order. to rescue an abducted girl who has mysteriously disappeared. This, of course, stars Nicholas Cage, Sophia Bettella, Nick Cassavetes, and Bill Mosley, I believe. He's the villain of the movie. Chad, you brought up the director, which is Cian, Sono. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:20:57 Fucking crazy. Explos his on his nuts. Let's do this thing. Yeah. You just got to twist them a little, makes them bright and big and bold. Yeah. This looks interesting. I'll probably watch it.
Starting point is 00:21:13 I mean, I don't know. I feel like it comes out a couple weeks, too. This one is September 17th. This will be theatrical and VOD same day. Okay. Awesome. Nick Cage has earned the right at this point for me to go, all right, Nick Cage is in it. I guess I have to check it out.
Starting point is 00:21:33 Yeah. And, of course, I like Sophia Batella. I like, she's not been in everything she's been in hasn't been great, but I do like her. And of course, you know, Bill Mosley, you know, Chop Top, Otis from Rob Zombie's Firefly family. That's an interesting ad. I'll take it. You know about Nicholas Cage's, he's got a big movie. It's a Lions game movie next year called the Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent.
Starting point is 00:22:03 Have you heard about this movie? No. I think I've heard of it, but I haven't really looked into it. Yeah, he's playing himself in it. So it's like, so the synopsis is a cash-strapped. Yeah, a cash-strapped Nicholas Cage agrees to make a paid appearance at a billionaire superfan's birthday party, but is really an informant for the CIA since the billionaire fan is a drug kingpin and gets cast in a Tarantino movie. Yeah, it sounds fucking crazy, but like Pedro Pascal, Neil Patrick Harris, Tiffany Haddish,
Starting point is 00:22:33 were all in this movie. What? Yeah. It kind of sounds like that Van Damme series I had came out on Amazon. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. That's right. He's playing himself. Which is really fucking funny, by the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:46 I never watched it, yeah. Yeah, he's like really the secret agent just posing as a movie star. Yeah, it sounds fucking crazy, but I'm there for it. I'll watch it. Yeah, Nicholas Cage has earned the right to at least like on the docket.
Starting point is 00:23:01 Maybe I'll get to it eventually. Maybe I'll watch it instantly, but eventually I'm going to get to that shit. Nice. All right. Like I said, Prisoners of a Ghostland, September 17th, and I believe Marcy and B. will be joining us for another Cage Rage episode. Oh, sweet. And that is it.
Starting point is 00:23:25 All right. Well, on to listener feedback. This week, the podcast Spotlight Shines on Heroes and Droids. Brought to you by Grusome Magazine. On heroes and droids, we discuss pop culture about superheroes, sci-fi, Disney, and action from Marvel to DC, from Star Wars to Star Trek, and James Bond to the Fast and Furious. We will review theatrical films and streaming delights you care about most. This week, we check out the Suicide Squad. Not to be confused with the piece of shit one.
Starting point is 00:24:01 What did, Chad, you check out the new one, right? Oh yeah, I loved it. Okay. That's great, right? Yeah, because I'm just, there's been some people that are posting that the movie is complete garbage. Yeah, I don't know, man. I don't know how this one got said to so much. I want to ask them, did you watch the other ones since the titles are similar and you didn't know?
Starting point is 00:24:22 I think, I don't think that the OG one helped it, man. Like, it didn't make any money, like, it made like 26 million opening weekend. And it is like 10 times the movie as the, uh, David, or one from five years ago. But yeah, I think that left such a bad taste in everyone's mouth. I don't think Birds of Prey helped. I don't know about you guys feel about Birds of Prey, but I wasn't a big fan of that movie. But I just like, it's, yeah, it's just built up to this.
Starting point is 00:24:50 And like this is a, speaking of what we were saying with Troma movies, like this is like a big budget blockbuster trauma movie with fucking Starfish. And I mean, it's bat shit crazy. Yeah, man. Lloyd Kaufman cameo. Yeah, exactly. Uh-huh. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:25:06 I mean, James Gunn started out as a fucking trauma director. Like, he'd worked with trauma. So, I mean, it's, yeah, this is, I really, really enjoyed it, man. I had a really, really good time with it. It's super funny. One of the more, probably the funniest movie of the year. Yeah, I wish it, I don't know. Even the streaming numbers on HBO Max didn't warrant, like, anything either.
Starting point is 00:25:25 I think Mortal Kombat beat it as far as, like, streaming goes. And, yeah, that kind of says it all right there, because I thought Mortal Kombat fucking sucked. But. I don't know Yeah It wasn't great And I have to say Stallone
Starting point is 00:25:41 As the voice of King Shark Was perfect Fantastic Yeah That was probably the best part of the movie I mean Fucking Pocadai man's great I fucking
Starting point is 00:25:51 Been seeing his mom all the time He was a way better character Than I thought he'd be Oh yeah We're still getting the The Peacemaker Series that I believe they already wrapped filming that with John Sina.
Starting point is 00:26:06 Yeah, I think early next year. See, I'm excited for that, man. See what you want about John Sina is, I know Pete on our network has a big problem with it. I don't know if you guys have listened to the Vengecast from this past week, but Pete just goes in on John Sina and how he's like, he's just the worst. I'm like, I don't think anybody ever, like, made the argument that John Sina is an Oscar-winning actor, but he's kind of perfect for this piecemaker role. He's a douchy character. Like, it's played up. He's hamming it up.
Starting point is 00:26:32 it really works for him. So, yeah, I'm excited for the series. Especially James Gunn directed most of the episodes, I think, too. So, yeah, I'm there for it. And eat a beach full of dicks for justice. That's right. Why the fuck wouldn't you? Every one of them for Liberty.
Starting point is 00:26:50 The tidy, witty scenes, Grades, he's fucking standing there all awkwardly. Yes. That's just racist. All right. That was funny. Okay. We'll move on with the feedback. We have some from last week's episode regarding Josh Hartnett's haircut.
Starting point is 00:27:15 Oh, Jesus. Darren Wilson says, he mimed it. He says, Barber, what kind of haircut you want? Him. Just fuck my shit up, fam. I think we talked about his hair more than we talked about the movie. Yeah, which was, you know. It was kind of more interesting.
Starting point is 00:27:37 Vanessa McEnry says, as we referred to him on Devour the podcast, 8th grade haircut. Yeah, I can see that. Eight grade Karen haircut. Al Ramsewer says, I know Nez probably already talked about it in East Society, but that reservation dog show is good. Funny as fuck. Yeah, we... We just dropped the episode, our stream fiends episode for sidekicks, and we talked about reservation dogs.
Starting point is 00:28:11 It's a great, great show so far. Two episodes are out right now. It looks funny. It's a Tyca-produced show, right? Yes. Yeah, yeah. Oh, fucking sold. I love it.
Starting point is 00:28:21 I really enjoyed the first two episodes. So I believe it's FX on Hulu exclusive. So. Yeah, awesome. Definitely check that out. All right. We got a dark night of the podcast says we appreciate you sharing this. So go check those guys out.
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Starting point is 00:30:02 All right. Well, that's it for listening and feedback. We're going to move on to our featured attractions. This week, it's the brand new Don't Breathe 2 as well as Panic Room. We'll start with Panic Room. A divorced woman and her diabetic daughter take refuge in their newly purchased house's safe room when three men break in, searching for a missing missing fortune
Starting point is 00:30:32 director is David Fincher also known for Alien 3 and 7 that's a resume right there that's always known for what the fuck out of here and some other stuff writer is David Cope
Starting point is 00:30:49 also known for at Jurassic Park and stir of echoes all right this shot of Sarah's medical the shot of Sarah's medical beds sliding sideways along the floor outside
Starting point is 00:31:03 the panic room took 103 takes. Well, that's what a good director does. According to David Fincher, Kristen Stewart grew more than three inches during the filming of this project. She was smaller than Jody Foster when the production started and towered over her
Starting point is 00:31:22 when the final shots were done. Probably took all them damn takes. All right. All right. What'd you think about panic room? Fincher's not known as a director that's very easy to work with. So I absolutely love Fincher, man.
Starting point is 00:31:41 What can you say about the guy? He's, I mean, you said Alien 3 and 7. Those are his first two movies. But, I mean, Fight Club, Zodiac, Social Network. I mean, the guy, list goes on and on this guy. Mank from last year. I know that's not the typical movie fans movie. I fucking love Mank.
Starting point is 00:32:00 It was a fan. But yeah, man. Panic Room is I think it's lower tier fincher for sure. It's definitely in the bottom bottom third of the movies he's directed. But that said, it's still a really
Starting point is 00:32:14 well-made movie. I think a lot of the camera work in this movie is really fantastic. He's got a lot of the panning shots throughout the house is showing, you know, Forrest Whitaker when they're starting to break in. Jody Foster, well, this was supposed to be, Nicole Kibben filmed like three weeks of this movie
Starting point is 00:32:31 and then hurt her knee. It was like, she was on Mulan Rouge, and she had, like, a fracture in her knee, and so they scrapped it, and then Jody Foster replaced her, like three weeks into the production of this movie. Oh. And then Hayden Panettiere was originally
Starting point is 00:32:45 the daughter as well, from Heroes, remember her? Yeah. Yeah, so it was originally Nicole Kim and Hayden Panetier, and then, yeah, Foster and Stewart popped up later on. But, yeah, I like that original movie better. I was going to say, would it be better or worse? Probably better.
Starting point is 00:33:01 I think Nicole Kimman's a better actor than Jody Foster. Better actress than Jody Foster. I'll agree. Yeah, I don't know. With Fincher, I still think this is a pretty well-made thriller. I don't think this is amazing by any means. And like of the Fincher movies that I listed off, I've seen this movie probably once, actually,
Starting point is 00:33:20 and I haven't really revisited it at all. Watching it this week, I had forgotten really what even happened with it. I think the performances are pretty great. Dwight Yochum, as I watched this, I noticed, He's like a human version of beetle juice. He's just like, he looks like he fell on the ugly. Sorry, this might, this is a mean. He looked like he fell on the ugly tree and hit every branch.
Starting point is 00:33:40 I'm sorry. Like, he just does. Like, I didn't realize that's it was. Why, Yolabhya, he's Raul. Raul. He's just a creepy-looking motherfucker. Like, he really, really is. Jared Leto is just so dushy in this with his cornrows.
Starting point is 00:33:56 I just don't want to punch him in the face. I love him in this. Yeah, he's just. He's good. He's good. It's junior. But I like this movie, all right. It's fine. It's a fine watch. What do you guys think? What are your thoughts on this?
Starting point is 00:34:12 Yeah. Oh, go ahead. Yeah, I'm not... I don't get sometimes the fascination with Jody Foster. Hmm. Like, she's all right. I mean, she's been in some decent movies, but I don't know. She just kind of comes off as maybe...
Starting point is 00:34:31 pretentious or something? I don't know. If there's something about her, I kind of just don't like. I hate to say that. But having said that, I think the movie's actually pretty good. I enjoyed it. It had its funny moments. The camera work was, yeah, like you were talking about, amazing.
Starting point is 00:34:50 Like, they're turning sideways and going up the stairs and doing like a half shot between the elevator and the outside of the elevator and stuff like that. That's all one continuous motion. I thought the ending really sucked. Yeah, and not great. Like, that was, I think that was the downfall of this movie. It had a really shitty ending.
Starting point is 00:35:13 And it was kind of a bland story. Yeah. But the actors were great. I thought Jared Leto was awesome in it. He was really funny. He had some good moments. Forrest Whitaker is always awesome. Dwight Yoakum.
Starting point is 00:35:31 Yeah. It didn't click. That's who that was. And then you said it and I was like, oh, yeah, how could I forget him? This thing. He's only got in a couple of movies. Yeah, he has a sling blade. He acts him a lot, quite a few things. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:35:49 But I liked the chemistry between the three villains for a moment there. There was like a, they're like on the way up the stairs or something. And they, I think it's when they first see. or something. And it's a shot that pans down at them. And it looks like it's just straight out of a comic book the way that it's set up. It looks really cool. It was a decent movie, man.
Starting point is 00:36:17 I'll take it. Yeah, I agree with you guys. This is probably mid-lower tier of Fincher movies. Definitely has that Fincher style when you're watching it. You know he directed it. Jody Foster's fine Probably as far as Kristen Stewart One of her most enjoyable
Starting point is 00:36:38 Films I've seen her in I'm not a big fan of her You don't love New Moon Brian You don't like Twilight New Moon Before you said When you just said New Moon I was like I don't even know what you're talking about right now
Starting point is 00:36:52 Twilight man It's the second new God look at the fucking This is when she could still keep her mouth closed I don't know she's scenes where she's just sitting there with her mouth open. But of course, love Forrest Whitaker, Dwight Yolkham,
Starting point is 00:37:09 who I will now always think of Beetlejuice when I hear it. So I thought Jared Leto was, he played that douchey role perfect. Oh, perfect. He's a douche in real life. So he plays the douchey characters so well, right? There were a couple of aspects of this. I wish they would have just kind of gave us a little bit more on.
Starting point is 00:37:31 uh, Fortis Whitaker's, Fortis Whitaker's motivation. Yes. Like earlier in the movie, you say, they say you need the money. And then later on,
Starting point is 00:37:42 he kind of mentions his kids, but not really. And I just felt like he was a way too nice of guy to even be doing this kind of thing. So I kind of wanted to know what was your motivation. And, um, another thing I didn't quite get is,
Starting point is 00:38:00 uh, when she, Jody Foster's character, Meg, was it Meg, Meg Altman, was looking at the apartment in the beginning and they shut the door to the panic room and they made you kind of think that she has a problem with in closed spaces, which later on when she goes into the panic room, that's not the case at all. Yeah, they mentioned it one more time in the whole movie. So I don't know if this was an aspect of the movie that was with the original people that were. cast and they kind of changed it. It just, it just kind of threw me off. They just, she just led you to believe that she had some kind of, was going to have a panic attack being in the panic room.
Starting point is 00:38:42 And that did not come back at all. How much fucking money does this lady have, man? That house. It's all her husband's money. Yeah, it's all that, the hobbies. That house in New York has got to be millions. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they, they mentioned it.
Starting point is 00:38:58 Somebody asked if her mom's, rich and she's like no my dad is she's just pissed off so yeah yeah and and clearly the first time i watched this movie too i never put two and two together that jared letto's character junior is clearly one of the the kids of the when they're talking about yes uh at the beginning yeah yeah and that the first time i just did not register this i'm like oh okay so he has a motive okay oh yeah it's his parents that they're fighting over and they even mentioned they can't well yeah they don't but they're like they can't find half it's when they're doing she's doing the tour of the place you're like her kids can't find the rest of the money so yeah clear
Starting point is 00:39:35 the money's in the bottom of the panic room they're waiting for them so yeah i guess i just didn't realize that the first time clearly this like i said this is i think i've seen this movie maybe once possibly twice and i mean i love finch is one of my favorite directors but this is like one of the blind spots of his uh filmography for me for sure yeah and yeah it was a good it was a good rewatch though I had forgotten a lot. All right. I think we're ready for scores. Yeah, let's do scores.
Starting point is 00:40:03 Chad, one to ten. I'll give this a soft seven. I think it's pretty harmless entertainment. I mean, it's like an hour of 50 minutes. It's not like anything you haven't seen before, but like it's still a pretty decent, like, tight thriller. Performances are pretty good all around. You get fucking Dwight, Beetlejuice, Yonk.
Starting point is 00:40:25 Just fucking hamming it up here. Just looking ugly as sin. Yeah, I give it a soft seven. You're a fucking bus driver, row. Yeah, I think seven's pretty on the mark for this one. Because it is sort of one of those movies that you've seen a hundred times. But like, a little bit better. It stands out more than that.
Starting point is 00:40:51 Yeah. I think Fincher is the reason for that, right? He kind of makes it stand up. out a little bit more, yeah. Yeah, but it is just kind of a, there's not really a ton of plot. No. And the ending was like,
Starting point is 00:41:04 not satisfying at all. It's like they just ran out of money and ended the movie or something. How fucking old is her husband? Yeah, no shit. Yeah, she's pretty old. And then he went and got him a younger woman. Well, you can do that when you're rich.
Starting point is 00:41:23 I guess. Well, and then, yeah, To pull back there, when she calls him, it's Nicole Kidman on the phone. Really? Yeah, so he kept her in the movie a little bit with that. He's like, bitch, put her on the phone or put him on the phone. I'm not talking to Nicole Kimmer that way, Jody. So, I mean, man, it would have been really interesting to see it with Nicole Kidman and Hayden Penitieri.
Starting point is 00:41:47 Yeah, it would have been a different movie, but yeah. I like it. All right, Brian? Yeah, I go with a seven. I think originally I had to set a seven and a half, but like I said, there was a few parts of the movie. I wish they could have just gave you a little bit more of or kind of dealt more deeper into. But yeah, lower, small, seven, almost six and a half. But it's a decent little home invasion movie.
Starting point is 00:42:16 Yeah, it's pretty harmless. For that genre, I think it's pretty well in there. That's good. Decent movie. generic movie with the good director yeah absolutely which i mean fincher's never written like any fucking movie like that's not his thing he doesn't write
Starting point is 00:42:34 he's a director he's a visual storyteller so he's good at that all right uh on to don't breathe to uh hiding out for years in an isolated cabin uh norman nordstrom has taken in and raised a
Starting point is 00:42:53 young girl orphan from a house fire. Hold on, that's his name. Norman Nordstrom? Yeah, Norman Nordstrom? Because they list ahead of him in the credits as the blind man. Yeah, he's both. I take it you haven't listened to. All right, here you go.
Starting point is 00:43:10 Let's start this now. So Lance, your guy's buddy, did a commentary with Pete and I on binge this past Wednesday for the original Don't Breathe. That's on our network. It's available now on our main feed for you all to download listen.
Starting point is 00:43:26 But yeah, we talk about that a lot on that podcast because they didn't know that either. They're like, Norman? I thought he was the blind guy. It's like, no, his name's Norman Nordstrom. Norman Nordstrom. Well, my name is Norman Nordstrom. I'd probably be one of known. I want to be known as a blind guy too.
Starting point is 00:43:44 Well, to each their own, I guess. I don't know. All right. Well, their quiet existence is shattered when a group of kids. kidnapper show up and take the girl, forcing Norman to leave his safe haven to savor. Director and writer is... I don't know how I feel about that. The description?
Starting point is 00:44:09 The Norman Nordstrom. Oh. Yeah, not quite as intimidating. Director and writer is Roto. Iguise. Also known for screenplays of Evil Dead and Don't Breathe. I remember having a problem with his name the last time, too.
Starting point is 00:44:33 Contrary to the first film, Don't Breathe, the main character changes from a villain to an action hero. All right. Chad, what did you think about it? All right. I really enjoy the first Don't Breathe. I think it's a pretty fun little movie. It is.
Starting point is 00:44:54 Yeah, it kind of came out of nowhere. It didn't expect much out of it. And then it made all the money. Like it was made for $9 million. It made $26 million opening weekend. Five years ago, came out five years ago, 2016. Oh, exactly. And then it went on to make like $180 or something like, I know, $157, I think, internationally,
Starting point is 00:45:13 on a $9 million budget, which is kind of surprising that it took five years to make this sequel, right? Because, I mean, the first kind of leaves it, like, leaves it a little bit open in it, but not necessarily anything clamoring for a sequel. Yeah, I kind of didn't think there was going to be one. No, yeah. And then while you're watching the marketing for this movie, you're like, all right. So now he's a good guy. Wait a minute.
Starting point is 00:45:37 This rapist motherfucker is, what are we doing here? I had a decent time with this movie, man. It is definitely not as good as the first at all. I think the first one is kind of head and shoulders above this. But I think if viewers go into this movie accepting it for what it is, which is just a, it doesn't make Norm Norman, Brian, your favorite, Norman. Yeah, it doesn't make, yeah, Normie, Normie. Look out for Norm.
Starting point is 00:46:07 We talk about this on the comment. He's a little bit like Placy, Placy, quiet place. He's a, he can't, he can't see. So he's just attacking off instinct. So he's a little bit of Placy from our binge. into commentaries for yeah I had a decent time with the sequel it's not as good as
Starting point is 00:46:28 the first by any means it's the body count is ramped way up in this movie and they make him more of a almost like a supernatural type he gets fucked up though by these these uh all the people that break into this house they're like
Starting point is 00:46:45 ex-military so they're no slouches by any means and there's some creative kills in this movie enough but it it's the tension, the claustrophobia of the first movie is not really here at all. But if all that aside, I still had a pretty decent time of this movie. What did you think about this movie, Brian? I don't know. I'll just see what you thought.
Starting point is 00:47:08 I can't say I'd enjoyed it as much as you did. Okay. I really had a problem with them trying to make him a good guy. Yeah. And it was like my problem with the green night How That guy I don't want to get on the green night again
Starting point is 00:47:29 I don't know I didn't like you on that one Yeah you can't be a good guy I thought shit I listened to your guys podcast from last week And I thought that like from what you guys were saying You guys go all give it like a six and a seven I was like wow I don't think I don't think they liked it that much I think they were lying about their ratings
Starting point is 00:47:44 I visually Oh 100% You know it's It's what you expect from A24 is just how they portrayed the character. Yeah. I just, same way with this movie. I just, I can't, I could not get, I couldn't get behind him. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:00 I knew what kind of a person he was. And this was, of course. You cannot rape people and be a good guy. Yeah. This, this, this happens after the first movie. So you know what kind of, you know, I mean, he's a fucking rapist, you know, give a fuck if you didn't force yourself on women. You used a fucking turkey baster.
Starting point is 00:48:20 I couldn't get behind it. I felt the tension wasn't really there as it was in the first one. I think it was just because they were trying to up the body count with all the different, I guess ex-military people. Some of them I kind of question if they were ex-military, like the Marshall Mathers looking guy that kept calling everybody bro. He got his, yeah, he's the one from the trailer that gets his mouth and nose super glued, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:47 Let's just kind of just leave his mouth that. way for the rest of the movie. I was a little disappointed in some of the kills. There was a few moments where something's about to happen and they just cut away. I hate that so much.
Starting point is 00:49:06 I get that in a PG-13 movie. I never really understand that in our movies why you do the little cutaway scene there. I did think the actress, what was her name? Let me try to look at it out real quick. They played the daughter. Yeah. Can't find it right now.
Starting point is 00:49:24 Madeline Grace, I thought she did pretty good in this. You know, I've never seen her in anything. I don't think she's really been in anything. But I thought she did a good job in this. But I thought I thought the villains were just generic. Very much so. The twist at the end, I had already figured it out before it was revealed. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:47 it just I don't know this was a complete drop off from the first one I don't know if that had to do with Fete Alvarez taking a step down from directing it
Starting point is 00:49:57 and letting the writer take the reins I don't know but I was really looking forward to this one and I was kind of disappointed Yeah I see I just didn't have that high of expectations
Starting point is 00:50:12 because I thought yeah I thought pulling off a sequel anyway was hard enough so I'm like all right I'll go in very reserved. And yeah, you're 100% right. The villains are pretty generic. I actually didn't really see
Starting point is 00:50:23 the twists coming. Because yeah, it's the same as the first man. They do subvert the ex-but, like, he's a good guy, kind of. He's eight years after the original. He's living in seclusion, and he's got this little girl now, of course, you have this weird thing underneath. But then, yeah,
Starting point is 00:50:41 it kind of flips it, but the villains definitely are generic and they don't really stand out. But for me, I just kind of took this more as like, I don't know, he's making more of like Norman. That's his name. Yeah, he's a horror icon now. Making, yeah, it's kind of making Stephen Lang, this Norman character kind of like stand out as like a horror type icon. You know, getting him like this, he's got two, he's got two sequels now for this, this franchise. So, and we talked about that a little bit on the commentary. It's like Stephen Lang, it took him a long time
Starting point is 00:51:17 get clout really or anything in like hollywood because i mean avatar is really his like big standout i mean he's in tombstone and stuff and throughout but like avatar and then this are like his is fucking two big roles and of this millennium at least um yeah yeah so i don't know i i i didn't have any really expectations for this i kind of went in very low and it was entertaining enough for me it It worked fine. Definitely not even anywhere on the first level. The first movie is way better than this by far. Like, not even close.
Starting point is 00:51:51 But I had a decent enough time with this. I don't know if I'd really revisit this at all. But I had, it was fine, fine for what it was. Yeah, that's kind of where I stand. But yeah, are you excited for this at all, Philip? Or like, where do you stand with this? No, man, I kind of wasn't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:09 I did enjoy the first movie. but I didn't get a chance to watch this one. Sorry, guys. I got the kids this weekend with me. Oh, that's fine. Mama's out of town, so I didn't have any place to leave them. Probably did something better than watching this. Huh?
Starting point is 00:52:26 Probably did something better than watching this. Well, yeah, sounds that way. But, yeah, and I mean, I was sort of excited about it because Stephen Lang did such an awesome job in the first one. But then, yeah, it seemed like such a different movie. and you know we got to get out of this habit I think of just oh well if this movie made money
Starting point is 00:52:47 we should make a sequel of it because it just cheapens the whole fucking thing I think that's not how studios work though I know at all they say oh wait there's any potential for a franchise let's go
Starting point is 00:53:01 just keep running until the souls of the shoes are gone that's right exactly exactly Well, this one took a big chunk out of it, I bet. I can't imagine it made a ton of money. Yeah, I think it's on track for like a $10 million opening weekend. So in a pandemic time, it's not great, but not completely shitty. I can't imagine this was made for a ton of money.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Yeah, well, maybe we'll get a don't breathe three and then that's it. Apparently there's an after credit scene that I did not stay for, though. Okay, I'll talk about it in spoiler. You stayed for it? Okay. Yeah. What's your score, Chad? I would give this a soft six.
Starting point is 00:53:44 Six on ten. All right. Like I said, I didn't enjoy it as much as you. This, for me, is an easy four on ten. Oh, what did you see? A not good one. Normally I line pretty much even with Brian. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:04 Well, let's go into spoilers and see what I missed. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right.
Starting point is 00:54:24 Yeah, like I said, I cannot get past the fact that he's a rapist. And now he's a abductor of children now. Well, because he rages and steals children. He's a good father. It's your next action here. Okay, this kid has nothing to do with anything from the first movie. He just fucking finds this kid on the street who wanders out of a burning house and keeps her. The CG at the beginning of this movie is so bad, though.
Starting point is 00:54:53 It is awful. Have you seen, do you remember seeing that, Brian? Like how bad it was? Yeah. Or noticing it? Yeah. Like, is this out of a, like, a Nintendo 64 video game? Like, what is this?
Starting point is 00:55:05 Yeah, it's pretty rough at the beginning of this movie. It was just a test. Yeah, that's why I was asking, you know, did they kind of take a step down with FedA not doing this movie? I don't know. The quality seemed to not be there. Oh, yeah, I'm sure this is way, way cheaper too, yeah, because it was all filmed in the last year, I think, too. So, yeah, I can't imagine this cost more than like $8 million to make. Yeah, and, yeah, Marshall Mathers, Eminem, as one of the ex-military guys, I just, I couldn't with this.
Starting point is 00:55:38 this guy just like the blind man's getting away bro he's over here bro and when you find out the reveal of what they really want with the girl i just i don't know because i felt like i didn't know if they were trying to kill her throughout the movie or if they were trying to kidnap her what was you know it was like the all the military guys weren't on the same mission yeah no yeah yeah well the yeah well the the other one's like uh i'm not forced to that and he he helps him out too so so who was she you want us to spoil it yeah
Starting point is 00:56:16 we're in spoiler territory oh okay we are so so norm comes upon this girl phoenix norman norman Nordstrom get it he he names his daughter or his abducted daughter he names her phoenix yeah oh okay because she comes from a house fire
Starting point is 00:56:34 comes from a little meth lab meth lab fire yeah that's true And she's got a little white strip in her hair, kind of like Gene Gray, Phoenix, kind of turns into it. Get it? Oh. Phoenix.
Starting point is 00:56:46 Yeah, there you go. And it comes to find out that the guys that are coming to a break in his house is Phoenix's father as part of the group that's coming to grab her. And they have ulterior motives. Yeah, they have ulterior motives behind it. He was in jail for the last few years because his meth lab explosion. and then it kind of ramps up from there. Was the meth lab explosion the reason that the house was on fire and he found the kid in the first place?
Starting point is 00:57:17 Yes. Yes. Okay. That makes sense. So. Does he still have a woman locked up in his dungeon? No. He has a new house.
Starting point is 00:57:28 He doesn't have a dungeon. Yeah, he found hers like an eight-year-old or whatever she was. She was primed and ready already. So he had a new daughter. Yeah. And the reveal at the end went, is the reason why the father was trying to get her back because she had thought the mom had died in the fire, but it turns out the mom had lived, but she needs a new heart. And it has to be from an exact donor, like from a family member. And it was just kind of sitting there.
Starting point is 00:58:00 And I kind of pointed it out. My wife had pointed it out before me. She was like, they're going to, because there was this kind of news thing going on. a TV about a doctor that was harvesting organs on the black market. And then you kind of catch a glimpse of him at the hideout because their hideout is like an abandoned hotel or something.
Starting point is 00:58:22 And I'm just like, how's gonna take this girl's organs? So he was trying to steal his daughter's heart. For the wife. That is completely the opposite of what any man on the face of the planet would do. Well, and she's also, well, she's the cook. So she's the cook of the meth lab. So if they don't have her, they don't have product.
Starting point is 00:58:46 Gotcha. Yeah. Outside of the little girl, there is nobody to root for in this. And they give Stephen Lang this moment at the end where he's just like, after he's murdered everybody and he's telling the girl, oh, you need to get away from me. I'm a bad person. I was like, you don't need to tell us that. we know you're a fucking horrible person
Starting point is 00:59:08 and I just I don't know and then one of the best death scenes in it was ruined by him I guess using his quote unquote catchphrase the now you'll see what I see as he's sticking his thumbs into somebody's eyes
Starting point is 00:59:23 so I there was not a whole lot I liked in this movie yeah it's not it's not it's not as good as the first okay just I feel like if you go into this movie just say throw the first one out because it's not going to be as good as that. Well, because see, when I was going into the first one, I was like, oh, well, this looks like the same movie.
Starting point is 00:59:44 I've seen a hundred fucking times. And it was not. And it was better. Yeah. You've never seen a turkey baster full of jazz shoved in someone's throat before. With that random hair in there. A couple. There's a couple hairs.
Starting point is 00:59:59 And even with them sneaking around Norm, when you when you got to what was it like two three people in the first one that was in the house just just the just the visuals and the mood just you kind of you felt everything you know it was just so dark and just quiet and this one claustrophobic yeah you feel this one was a little bit more lit and a lot of more open places yeah this is a totally different movie than the first I mean yeah it's just it's not the same thing it's not claustrophobic it just ramps up it's very uh I don't know if it suffers from sequel ideas. It sounds like
Starting point is 01:00:34 Brian thinks it does, but it's just way more amped up like way more intense, like, not even intense. It's just, it's just a more straight horror villain slasher type sequel. Like, body counts wrapped up, all that shit's ramped up.
Starting point is 01:00:50 It's not very much, no, no, the claustrophobia of the first is not here. The first one is head and shoulders above this movie, but yeah, I mean, it's not the same movie at all. But Norman is like our hero, in this one, right? He gets a fucking action hero
Starting point is 01:01:06 montage of him getting his weapons ready to... That is true. That is true. He finds the hideout. I gotta watch it just for that. He finds the hideout by using their dog that they left behind. He puts a leash on him and tells
Starting point is 01:01:22 him to go home. He's like, go home. It walks him home. I love that this shit, though. Love them dogs. But yes. A montage of him getting his machete and his, I guess, bug bomb canisters. I'm glad he knew what they was just by feeling the can.
Starting point is 01:01:45 Yeah, good point. I had braille on it, Brian. Stop. Okay. How dare you? It seems like that could go very wrong with a prepper. All right. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:01:56 You got anything else, Chad? I got nothing in. Okay. All right. Don't breathe too. Maybe not so worth it. Sounds like a watch free guy. This is the shortest episode of the horror turns ever.
Starting point is 01:02:10 I'm looking at my Skype and this is one hour or two minutes right now. Oh, wow. It, you know what? It seems when Lance is not here, it goes a little bit quicker. I'm not saying anything towards Lance, but... Well... I know once you brought up CG, Lance would have... Lance is stuck on the CG fire from Escapers.
Starting point is 01:02:32 room too so oh yeah oh like escape room too no okay I think this movie is way better than escape room too at least yeah I would definitely put this above escape room too not that's saying much I walked out of escape room too I was like life's too short for this and I just walked out I did see jungle crews though I'll throw that in there that's an extra cool the week I heard a lot of people weren't buying elizabeth blunt and the rock is love interest Um, they didn't have a ton of chemistry, but they were great individually and together. I, yeah, I thought that movie is fine. Like, yeah, it's another fine movie.
Starting point is 01:03:13 Like, Blunt is, uh, she's an actress, man. She's, I think she's a very much, a very charismatic actress as well. Like, and she just works. She's one of my favorite actresses for sure. I think she's great. I like her. I like The Rock. I like the story.
Starting point is 01:03:28 Chemistry. Mm-hmm. Is, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I mean, maybe I didn't buy the love. interesting but they definitely still had some like friend chemistry at least yeah
Starting point is 01:03:37 to uh to bring it back to earlier you were saying you showed your kids the ritual or your kid um are you guys doing the nighthouse next week is that what your show is themed after or what is it next week uh next week I don't even know oh we're doing
Starting point is 01:03:54 demonic uh okay to my okay yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah demonic oh that's gonna be going yeah it's what's fucking can't even think of us Same. Chappie in District 9, Blom Camp. Yeah, Neil Blom Camp. There you go.
Starting point is 01:04:08 Also, yeah, the guy who directed the ritual, his new movie, his name is David Bruckner. His new movie, the Nighthouse comes out next week as well from 20th century. It was at Sundance in 2020 with the girl from the town. Why can I think of her name? Rebecca Hall. Yeah, Phil, it's the one she was in Godzilla versus Kong. one I didn't really buy as a scientist. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 01:04:36 Yeah. So that's next week. And then that guy's also filming the new Hellraiser movie as well, David Bruckner. So. Okay. Yeah. A little time back. I was just trying to extend this beyond like 59 minutes that I want to show up.
Starting point is 01:04:50 Be like, oh, this is the shortest horror returns ever. What the fuck is Chad doing on this show? That's all right. It'll be a quick listen, man. We don't have a ton of those. It's all good. It's not good. I'm not that interesting.
Starting point is 01:05:04 Well, man, thanks again for joining us, though. What do you got going on with binge cast? I mean, yeah, follow us on iTunes, fucking Twitter, Facebook, all that shit. They got the Patreon going for binge. We do our monthly happy hours. We do a Discord, happy hour chat. We all just get drinks and just talk shit over Discord for like the last Friday every month. I do binge views over there
Starting point is 01:05:32 It's our weekly review show of the new releases that are on streaming in theaters I do movie homework over there as well It's Patreon exclusive where we We take a certain category Like a director or a film topic And we do a three or four movie series on that There's a lot of other shows over there
Starting point is 01:05:52 This is the sports cast There's the fucking aftertaste with Garrett You guys know There's a lot of shit A lot of movies, fucking TV, all the other shit that we do on binge media.
Starting point is 01:06:04 It's a good time. And then, yeah, we did the first Don't Breathe commentary with the Lance, myself Pete and Lance did that on Wednesday night.
Starting point is 01:06:12 We all get really drunk and probably go off the rails like we usually do. But that's the binge way. That's about right. Just get drunk. Yeah. Just get drunk.
Starting point is 01:06:19 It's the bar conversations. You just get drunk. Talk shit is what we do. We're movie nerds and, yeah, that's what we do. Well, man, thank you for
Starting point is 01:06:28 doing what you do, because we wouldn't be here without you guys. Absolutely, man. It's a good time always, and, yeah, horror returns is great. You guys, yeah, it's like a brother-sister network here, you know? Absolutely. I like to do the same thing, yeah, always. So, yeah, check out binge media if you, well, shit, the only reason you're listening to us is probably because you found us through them.
Starting point is 01:06:50 But as always, we want to thank you for listening to another episode of the horror returns. I would love to hear your feedback and ideas, and you can always reach us at the horror returns at gmail.com. And be sure to follow us on Facebook, Twitter, Instagram, and Podbean. Just search for the horror returns, and also look for us on the iTunes. And if you like what you hear,
Starting point is 01:07:13 please rate us and review us. Don't forget to go to Patreon. Check that shit out. We've got different levels of stuff. It's awesome. Yeah, real quick, Action Returns finally came back. We dropped our episode for Nobody.
Starting point is 01:07:27 and like I said earlier, our stream fiends episode for sidekicks. Ooh, sidekicks. I like it. All right. Next week, we're going to check out the brand new demonic and 2000s The Cell. That's Jennifer Lopez, yes? Yes. Okay.
Starting point is 01:07:44 I got confused with the last one. So, until the horror returns again, Brian. Good night.

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