The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #274: The Cell (2000) & Demonic (2021)

Episode Date: August 24, 2021

This week, we check out the new Neill Blomkamp film, Demonic, as well as The Cell. Cool of the Week includes Snake Eyes, Saturday Night Live, and Alien. The trailer this week is We Need to do Something. Podcast spotlight shines on Texas Podcast Massacre. And we get feedback from Jeff Larrimore. We also spotlight a brand new Podbean podcast called "different" and get a surprise visit from WWE Summer Slam. Thanks for listening!

Heidi fucking ho, boys. This is Dana D. Lorenzo, aka. Kelly Maxwell from Ash versus Evil Dead. And you're listening to the horror returns. Download that shit, motherfucks. Greetings, victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify, go, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners, beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. All right, welcome back one in all. to the horror returns. I'm Lance

and with me as always, my co-host, Philip. Brian, we definitely hope that Kevin pops in for a surprise visit on location. That'll be outstanding. But how's it going, guys?

Oh, it's gone. It's definitely gone. Trying to stay safe and healthy out here. I know, man. I don't even know what to do with it anymore. Everybody's wearing masks again. I'm like, fuck.

Oh, yeah. There's a lot more masking. Even here, man. But it was funny. I actually went into the Walgreens here, and I'm like, okay, it's a pharmacy. There's, you know, people that are literally dealing with medicine. Working behind that counters, I'm going to wear my mask.

Because a lot of places I go, frankly, guys, these days I don't. Probably need to start rethinking that these days. Uh, I go in there and I'm... It's getting weird up here, so... It's, yeah, it's so off. But I'm literally the only person in the Walgreens wearing a mask. I'm like, of all places, I would have thought for sure that they would have all been. AJ, come say hi real quick.

Uh-oh, I got a finger. Okay. Man, I can't imagine you guys would get it again. Hey. Hello. Hey. Hey. I can't imagine you guys would get it again

and you've had the vaccine and already had it So even if you did get it It couldn't be that bad The only thing I'm worried about dude Is that I'm gonna get it and not know I have it And pass it to somebody Because they're saying it can still live in your Lundining or whatever

So I don't want to do that The vaccines are supposed to at least Help with it and make sure you don't fucking die So Yeah. They're out there. They're available. Brian and I were talking about it before the show, man. I'm definitely not interested in that third shot yet. I want to see if they got, for God's sake, they've got to be still working on something. Oh, I know. I fucking hope that's not a thing.

Aren't they doing something literally specifically against Delta now? I don't know how everything. I don't know. I don't know anything anymore. I know, dude. Well, it changes every other week. Yeah. I don't know what the cool. First they said there's going to be a third shot. Then they said there was going to be a third shot with boosters after that. And like, that's a lot of stuff we're pumping into our bodies. Yeah, that sounds iffy. I mean, it's still technically experimental, man.

Yeah. Yeah, well, I am kind of glad I got the Pfizer because I think that's the one that's supposed to get FDA approval in the next two to three weeks from what I hear. Yeah, they've also got the most money. Ah, that's true. Yes. Read between the lines. Oh, man, but I don't think coronavirus is anybody's cool of the week. Nah, not mine.

No. Jesus, I hope it just goes the fuck away. I got two movies in a show, so I'll jump in real quick. Okay, all right. Checked out Snake Eyes, the G.I. Jump movie. The fake story line, as Nez says. huh? I didn't hate it.

I really didn't hate it. There was some good action. I enjoyed the cast in it, especially, I can't remember the guy's name that plays Storm Shadow. He was great as Storm Shadow. Yeah, that was always my favorite guy. But I did have a lot of problems with the story. I do think they can suicide squad this movie if it becomes,

if it has a sequel. Because there's a lot to work with that you can fix. To me, it was just, it was all story that was wrong. Gotcha. So, but the action was good. Does it compare to suicide, like the old school suicide squad where it's kind of disappointing? Yeah, I was, because you can go listen on E-society. Nez says it all, you know, as far as, you know, you got to,

idea of snake eyes growing up with the with the comics and the cartoon and they kind of went different with this yeah and i can i kind of see what they were trying to do it's just it didn't work for me but like i said they're they can definitely fix it i haven't heard great things so i haven't tried to watch it yet and uh right i'll be disappointed yeah we're talking off off mike uh about smart weaving she shows up in it so oh well That's a plus. You automatically get a one for that. Yeah, she was kicking ass in it.

So definitely, there's a lot of things they can work with and fix. So let's see. Remake it. All right. Yeah, like I said, Suicide Squad. Yeah, like, do a soft reboot. There you go. A reboot secret.

What would they call it, Snake Eye? Well, they never should have. They never should. I know Snake Eyes is one of the most. popular characters, but they never should have picked him to do a solo G.I. Joe movie to trying to kick off a franchise. I mean, they could have, but I think it would have had to be really dark and serious. Yeah. A lot of people like him as like an anti-hero, right?

Yeah. I mean, because he doesn't talk. Well, I mean, it is called G.I. Joe. So maybe the guy that started G.I. Joe. I don't know. I don't know. I don't make movies. just watch them and come out here complain about him. But I think it's worth the watch. Tell them how to do their job that we have no idea how to do.

Exactly. That's what we go for here. I think it's worth the watch. It's now it's now on BOD if anybody doesn't at these times want to go out to the theater. So give it a try.

Trying to go in there. Just you know, it's a comic book, cartoon-based show or movie that, you know, it's a popcorn movie, so. Yeah. Well, I can watch it with kids. I'll watch it. Oh, yeah.

Oh, yeah. Absolutely, yeah. Let's see, last night I checked out the girl who got away. What? The fuck is. I've never heard of that. It's an independent release from, what is the, quibber? distribution.

They at times send us screeners. Okay. And this one was pretty decent. It's about a girl. She was abducted when she was younger and then it flashes

forward to when she was older. And she gets news that the lady that abducted her is broken out of prison. And all these murders start happening and she's trying to explain that it has to be her. But the police are basically like where she is at the time and the timing of everything is not working out

to her theories that the lady broke out and started murdering people coming after in her and there's a lot of there's a little couple twist and tourneys in there and it was pretty decent it did lag in the middle but uh some of the kills were kind of decent but the effects of some of the kills were pretty good they look like uh look like practical So is this streaming or where can you find it? It's a VOD. VOD, okay, gotcha. So it's a rental, as we say, around here.

Yes, but if you know where to look, you know where to look. You sounded like Jack's different. That's like the sons of anarchy would do, man, is do a... Wait, they did do a porno thing, didn't they? Wasn't that one of their businesses for a while? they had a porn studio. Oh, gosh, what was it called? It was called something.

Jack's Enterprises or something like that. No, it had like a funny name to it. And the guys would like just hang out there and watch. Yeah, that's right. When they weren't selling opium or guns. Yeah, I'm like, well, to be fair, if you were in some sort of gang that had a porn studio and you could just go hang out and watch. Yeah, but there was there was times when they had like the cartel and, you know, the

IRA and whatever. They have like 50 different gangs after them and they're just like watching more being filmed. Got to take some downtime. Literally. And really quick. Life balance. Really quick I checked out,

it's kind of a new-ish Apple TV Plus show, physical with Roseburn. Oh, I've heard good and bad. I like it. I think Pete tapped out I don't know I just I like Rose Byrne Yeah well Pete tapped out a Game of Thrones

After one episode so what does that tell you Oh man you gotta stick in there What are you doing Pete So what is it Brian's snake eyes Uh Yeah I'll go snake eyes But I do recommend physical If you like Roseburn

And just watching a Housewife with a mundane life just kind of stumble upon aerobics and she kind of has like I don't know I don't want to spoil it but it's entertained That's the question

She did at one scene but She was strategically covered up in certain spots Okay like side boom or something like that Yeah because I let a little A little spoiler out like she She has like an eating disorder So she'll go rent a hotel room with a whole bunch of burgers and get naked and lay out all the burgers and eat them and then go throw them up.

And you don't see her boobs. That's a little weird. But then she stumbles upon aerobics because the time period it's set is when aerobics was super big. And then her husband is like the biggest fucking piece of shit. like she has to deal with him and is he kind of a guido type or what he's like a former like he he gets let go of his position as a i think he's a college teacher professor and then he decides to go into politics and he's just a fucking useless person well went into politics i should have some any politician fucking moron i definitely recommend that but yeah i'll go i'll go snake eyes all right nice Check it out. Well, I, uh, I, I did some Neil Blum camp homework this week.

Ah. Uh, sort of. I didn't watch, uh, Chappie and all that. Although I'm, I don't mind any of them. Um, but I did go back and watch, uh, aliens. Uh, well, not aliens. We started with Prometheus. My daughter wanted to watch something scary.

Okay. And so I showed her Prometheus. And she said that was scary enough. Oh, so you'd be like the game over man aliens? That aliens? No, we didn't go aliens. We went Prometheus first. And then we went Alien, the original.

Oh, yeah. That one's scary. I was about to say you were trying to terrify her. That was like a slasher movie almost. Right? Yeah, no, we had gone kind of up. scale. She's watched Psycho Gorman and stuff and she was like, Dad, that's not scary enough.

And I'm like, all right, well, let's check this. My granddaughter's love Psycho Gorman and also Alien, the original. And also, Jaws, right, Taylor? My daughter could not get into Psycho Gorman. She hated the little girl. She hated the little girl in it. Oh, Mimi. Come on, dude. I can see that.

I love her more. I love her more now. I think what it took was the three-year-old watching it with me a couple of times. And I'm fist-pumping every time Mimi comes on screen now. I can understand how you would not like the little girl. I like her, but... Yeah, I was trying to explain you're not... I don't think you're supposed to like her.

Yeah. She's a little over the top, but it's on purpose. Of course. But yeah, no, so I showed my daughter that, and then we watched Alien Covenant. She sat there that one too. Yeah. We did like the...

It's an accomplishment, man. I guess the first three, if you want to take it that direction. And then I got in a sci-fi mood and watched Gattaca. Oh, I haven't seen any... I just, like, a few weeks ago picked that up on Blu-ray, and I have not re-watched it yet. I remember liking it, though. Yeah. Dude, it is so great.

I love that movie. Ethan Hawk, right? Yeah, Ethan Hawk. And they're like genetically enhanced humans versus regular humans, which, I mean, fuck, we may not be too far away from that. Isn't that the one where you have to, like, show them your wrist and they scan it for you to get into your office? Yeah, you have to, like, prick your fingers so they can identify your DNA. Doesn't he, like, try to counterfeit something to get, yeah. Yeah, he counterfeits Jude Law because he's like a genetically enhanced dude, but he broke his legs or is paralyzed or whatever.

Oh, counterfeit stuff. Yeah. I like what happened up here as 3,000 vaccinated cards was confiscated. Oh, I heard about that. Was that in Alaska? Yeah. Somebody was trying to ship them up here. It was like 3,000 pre-filled.

I think somebody got to have the UK too. It happened in California too. Really? That's fucking crazy. Anywhere there's identification cards, there's counterfeiting. Anywhere there's money, there's counterfeiting. Oh. Yeah.

Well. Oh, no, I thought you were talking about like the UK. They had one that she, it was a nurse, and she injected a bunch of vaccines that were just saline. Oh, come on. Yeah. Oh, that's not. I mean. Wow.

That's fucked up. Well, it could have been worse. You could have injected somebody's semen into them, I guess. Oh, speaking of semen, speaking of semen, Lance, I listened to your commentary on Don't Breathe. Yeah. You were keeping it very explicit on there, my friend. Was I?

Yeah. That's what we do, man. We fight hard for the E label. Well, you definitely gave binge media. their explicit tag for that episode. And I'm proud of, proud of myself for that, man. Thank you. Consider that a great compliment.

And I'm still kind of not over this fucking Norman Nordstrom fucking name. Who is that again? The blind man. Oh, that's right. Norman, Norman. Yeah.

Look out, guys. Norman's coming after you. God damn. Well, there was Norman Bates. That worked pretty well. That's different. we got introduced to him as Norman Bates. Right. Sounds like stuttering Stanley.

He got Norman Nordstrom. And then you got Norman Macy's. What's our guys? Norman's coming. Jesus. You're going to do a fucking nerd. Philip, you had a huge week for you, man. Yeah, dude, that's a lot of stuff that I watched.

And then, well, and after Brian was talking about watching Hell's Kitchen, I switched over from kitchen nightmares to Hell's Kitchen and I fucking love that show. Wow. It's so, me and Phil, we're talking about it. It's relaxing, like, just watching him fucking yell at somebody. Comfort TV, huh? I stayed awake until like 3 o'clock in the morning watching Hell's Kitchen because I couldn't quit. That guy has, he'll let anybody have it, even a customer.

I watched the episode the other day where the guy didn't have enough pumpkin. in his pumpkin risotto and then Gordon said bend over and I'll ram it up your ass. What do you want it? No. You want it whole or chop? He did not. Or he said you wanted whole or diced.

Which one? Because the guy would not like leave him alone and he kept telling him like leave. Yeah. He was like, I'll give you pumpkin. I'll ram it up your ass. Those are the best parts when he talks shit to the customers. It's fucking crazy. Like, I mean, you wouldn't do that in the real world.

but it's a it is a TV show those people are there for a reason you got to expect that shit going in so if they're going to go up there and start shit they know what's going to happen do you want it whole or diced your choice I'm going to get diced if I have a choice I would have to take the puree on that one is that it

yeah that's it for me man what is what is uh what are you going to show your daughter next um i don't know i was going to let her watch the cell with me and then i mean we'll get into it but i forgot kind of how creepy it was yeah yeah yeah i was like okay maybe let's not introduce fucking hellraiser to the eight-year-old yeah that my My daughter. My daughter's 11, and she's seen some Friday the 13th, and, of course, you know, Freddie Kruger, but, like, Hellraiser and that kind of stuff. Yeah. That's kind of drawing the line right there.

Yeah. Things that are just so creepy that they're going to give you nightmares. Like, I almost went Exorcist with it. Oh. But I didn't want to go that far. Is your son watching these, too? Um, sort of. He comes in from time to time and sort of starts to watch him. And then he, I think, chicken's out. But he at least, you know, doesn't have nightmares and stuff. He just is a little more timid. Maybe he knows his limits. Yeah. If I watch this any minute longer, I'm going to have nightmares, so I'm out.

Yeah. All right, that one's too scary. I'm gone. My daughter will watch it, and then she gets scared and comes in the room in the middle of the night. Maybe Logan needs to sick with goosebumps, huh? Yeah. Oh, he's seen that stuff. Oh, I'm sure. They do not with horror movies, man. Really?

Well, yeah. Look what their dad does for a weekend hobby, a horror podcast. They kind of can't help it, right? Exactly. No, but they're having a good time. But, yeah, I think that's about all I showed them this week. We didn't go with the ones that I watched today. Ah, oh yeah, the two shows for the...

Yeah. For the podcast, I got you. All right. Mine's quick, quick and easy. Saturday Night Live, guys. Really? Yeah, Saturday Night Live. No, it's not back yet.

It's not back until September, but... I don't know how the fuck I talked to the one. into this, but I don't know. I must have talked to her about this when she was at just the exact right, like, balance of alcohol and, you know, being comfortable with the way her day at work when or something, but I have convinced her to begin with season one, episode one, and work our way to where we are right now on Saturday Night Live. So for me, every single one will be rewatches because I've never missed an episode in my life.

Whoa. So. That's a, that's a giant undertaking. A 911 season and counting undertaking. Is that how many? Yeah, 911 episodes thus far. Yeah. Did I say seasons?

Hold the fuck out a second. All right, wait, we are going into the 46th season. How about that? Okay, that sounds. Good night. Okay. So we are on, these are the three episodes that we checked out this week. So that's what you're going to be doing for the rest of your life? I might start doing the SNL returns segment every week. So episode number one,

George Carlin was the comedian host with musical guest Billy Preston. You guys know Billy Preston? Who is Billy Preston? Nothing from nothing. There you know. You gotta have something. If you want to get it with me. Remember this?

Yeah, yeah. Really funky, man. Great, great comedian and great musical guests. So the first thing I recognized about this episode is Carlin came out for like three 10-minute stand-up performances, which is unheard of now, right? Like, basically now you get the intro and then all the skets and two musical performances. So Carlin did three short. stand-up routines. Lots of great skits. Billy Preston was amazing. Episode two, Paul Simon,

with special guest Randy Newman. Andy Newman. Not just so great. Nah, I'm not a huge fan of the... Now, I love the older musicians on the earlier episodes, like when ACDC would show up or fucking Frank Zampa or the Rolling Stones, but not the world's biggest Paul Simon fan. Our friends over at Helming Power Hour love Randy Newman, especially when they do drunk Randy Newman.

But this episode was about 70% music. So, eh, not my favorite. But episode three, righted the ship. Special guest, Rob Reiner. And he was fucking hilarious. I think I've seen that episode. Yes. So we are on the SNL wagon.

That is our first update, guys. More to follow. That's cool of the week. Brian, we got any news? Kind of, sort of. Yeah, news-ish. Let's see, HBO Max will be the home of the Evil Dead trilogy starting next month. And that comes ahead of the upcoming Evil Dead Rise movie, which will be an HBO

Max exclusive. Very nice. Very nice. All right. Well, we had our trifecta with Suicide Squad. Maybe that'll be a trifective for us when it comes out. Let's see. The Adam's Family 2 animated movie will now come out simultaneously in theaters and on BOD due to the current climate of things, which I'm hearing. This won't be the only announcement coming as far as same day. VOD theater releases. Well, that makes sense. I guess we're going back to it. Yeah, and just warning people, we might have a couple days

where we go back to our this is delayed segment of the news. Oh, no, that's right. Yeah. It's already happening. Candyman's still on track, right? Yeah, I think because it's so

close to being released. Please, have been waiting over a year for this movie. But if anybody was interested in the new Venet movie, I wasn't. Not really. That's got delayed from September to October, and from what I'm hearing, it might get delayed again. Hmm. Yeah, I mean, sucks.

I'd like some good superhero movies to come out, but it's not killing me. Well, we're not in trailers. Did you guys see the new Eternals trailer? It's for Marvel. I am, I wasn't sold in the first one, but I am sold now. The cast looks amazing. The visuals look amazing. I think they're going to give us something that we definitely have not seen before.

Yeah, I'm actually kind of excited about that one now. And they asked the questions that people were asking in the first trailer. Like, where the hell were they when the snap happened? Oh, no shit. Okay, so get your $30 ready, Disney subscribers. Yeah, well, I guess according to the Disney CEO, Shang-chi is the test, which I guess pissed off the star. Really?

Really? It was basically like, don't say what we're doing here is a test to see if people come see it. Which I'm definitely day one for Shang-chi. that looks like it's going to be a badass martial arts Marvel movie. Well, it sounds like a lot of the leading people have been in it with Marvel lately over VOD releases same day. Well, I think is much money. What's up, Des? Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls.

I don't think you can hear us Hello We can hear you Oh man Ladies and gentlemen Boys and Girls Children of All Ages Welcome to another quick episode of the wrestling Return coming live and direct from Las Vegas, Nevada

at the bitch-ass Allegiance Stadium home of the bitch-ass Las Vegas Raiders Go Seahawks Oh man it's loud it's exciting oh man Damien Preece

Spoiler alert Just won the United States Championship belt From Seamus Oh man I Marie So fine She showed up

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Biggie won his match and it's loud, it's exciting. This stadiums, it's nice, but I can't be a part of this nonsense. Oakland for Life. Fuck Vegas. Oh, man, I don't know what's next, but I can barely hear you guys.

The music is a little loud in here. It looks like it's sold out, but I do see a lot of empty spots. but man those guys that are sitting way up top man they're way up there nosebleed yeah we're on the but you're there but you're there yeah we're on the first deck so i mean shout out to my buddy uh j thrills follow him on instagram and youtube and whatever else uh looks like the mysterios are up next oh they're just showing some uh smackdown stuff from last night uh the uh those and the Mysterios but oh man it's hot as hell down here I think it was

pushing a hundred but we made it my wife just texted me I guess the highway closed again from the fire so oh shit hopefully I can get home than that I'm not sure but as soon as this is over we're gonna we're gonna race out of here back to the airport and jump on that last Reno flights and yeah it's looks like it's going to be Dominic and Red Mysterio up next. So, but man, it's an awesome time. I did record a quick little wrestling returns episode. I'll drop that as soon as I get home.

And Brian and I will do a full coverage of this whole pay-per-view. So I'm going to get out here before it gets really loud. But until then, everyone, thank you so much for listening. Be sure to check out action returns as well as THR present stream fiends. And we got a bonus one coming for you. I watched the movie Brian and, yeah, it was a movie. So until then everybody, be safe. Oh, here they can.

Get them, Ness. Yeah. Summer Slam. Well, that's pretty old. All of our pool of the weeks look pretty tame right now, huh? Yeah. We will have a recap of what happened there and Nez get home safe. It's a very dangerous out there in California.

yeah tints the fires yeah but going going back to what we were talking about this uh

what was it the the the Marvel stars and what was it the theater in the same day yeah

yeah I'm going to go ahead so okay I'm going to I'm going to take a side here

I'm I'm with the stars if your contract to get most of you. I don't care how much they paid you up front. If you're supposed to get a portion of the theater thing, the theater box office,

and then they turn around and, oh, we're also going to do same day, VOD. Okay, so they should get the same portion of that then, right? Yeah, but they don't. Oh, well, then that's fucked up. Yeah. And I don't, I don't appreciate Disney saying, well, Scarlett, we gave you 20 million.

up front and then they tried to use the pandemic. Well, Disney, you're not hurting for money. Guarantee you there's some Disney executives getting a lot more than that up front. Yeah. So, pay your stars because Scarlet's been there since the beginning. But we'll probably never see her again. They're probably bleeding money. Disney's been stuck in the middle of every goddamn controversy in the past year or two.

And then, yeah, the park's having to close. And now mask are off. Now mask are back on. It's rough. I know they've got a new thing they're doing now called Jeannie Plus. Did you hear about this at the parks? No. Yeah.

Okay, they got rid of the, and we used to love this. They would have the fast pass, and it's free. It's included in your ticket price, right? So you get to skip the line for three rides, right? Oh, right? Yeah, you go in advance and you skip the line. Jeannie Plus, you get to do that, but now you have to add $15 to your daily ticket. Hmm.

Yeah. Fuck them, man. I'm not going to go back to Disney World in a while. So you get the same thing you got before, but you have to pay more? Now you have to pay for it. 15 bucks, yep. Yep, yep, yep. You can get Jeannie.

Oh, that's the quote-unquote free app. Oh, you can get the Jeannie app. And you can see how long the lines are. Well, fuck, we already have that on the Disney World app. And now you're telling me that that's a value added. But to get Jeannie Plus is the only way to skip any lines at all. You don't even get your three fast passes. Fuck you, Disney.

Uh-oh. I might have just gotten us taken off the air permanently. They're sending their hit squad after us. You got to find me first, Kyle. All right. We talked about VHS 94 coming to Shutter. It gets a release date of October 6. All right. I'll be there. I got Shutter. I'm paying for it. And let's finish it out if I can find it. I think we talked about this last week, Phil. I mentioned that we're not getting the Alien series until 2023.

Yeah, I think so. Okay. That's going to be awesome. But American Horror Stories, the one where each episode is a different story, already renewed for a second season. Makes sense. They got quality stuff, man.

It's a nice quick watch. Although that first one, it was like the two episodes together, It's like I was watching it over at Mikey's house. Well, Philip, you were there too, man, right? Yeah, yeah. And it's like, the first episode ends and I'm like, okay, well, let's move to a movie. Wait a minute. To be continued, what the fuck?

Yeah. I wasn't expecting that. But still, they still paired in comparison to Harold and Kumar, right? Well, of course. Which one did you guys watch? The first one? Yeah, that first, the first series. there because it was like a two episode deal.

Okay. I relate to that. I relate to that scene so much. Leave my phone or my wallet or something and it's just we come too far to turn around. Yeah. I like it. And I stopped eating fast food for a while after Anthony Anderson's scene. Oh.

Secret. secret of greedy and his semen. Ooh. Animal semen. That's an awful lot of semen talk on the show today. Yes, it is. I forget how many people showed up in that movie until we re-watched it. That's kind of an all-star cast of

people showing up for cameos, right? Yeah. Let's see. Lance, you might like this. The creators of the O.A. are teaming up with FX for a new limited series, new limited science fiction series of retreat. Okay. And one of the creators of the OA was Britt Barley, who was the main star. She is going to be the main star, I believe, in this series.

Yeah, I'm in. She always works with, oh, shit. It's like they all went together at, that was like Cal State, I think. Yeah. It's like three of them. And they all work together on the films. and I think they all put writing credits into it and you always have one director, but

dude, I was reading her backstory. It's like crazy. Like homelessness and just weird shit. Like they gave up all their possessions for a while. They made a vow to give up all their possessions, live only on what people would give them or what they could find like in dumpsters and shit like that. It's a crazy backstory, man.

And I'm like, okay, anybody who's willing to actually do that, I'm probably going to watch to see what kind of movies they put out. I've never been disappointed with any of them. You remember Another Earth? That was a good one. Oh, yeah. I didn't remember that. It's just a lot of trippy stuff, man.

So what is this going to be streaming on? I believe it's going to be on the FX on Hulu exclusive. Nice. Okay. Well, I'll be the first in line, man. Anything they do together I'm all about. And I'm trying to see if there's maybe some action news. Sylvester Stallone's Dark Superhero Movie Samaritan gets a August 26th, 2022 release,

which is odd because I heard it's finished. That's a long way away. Maybe Delta will run its course by then, huh? Maybe that's what they're gambling on. I don't know. Jesus. I don't know how smart that is. Right.

And speaking of Sly, he's also confirmed that Jason Statham will be back in an expendable spinoff of his character. But of course. Why not? It's got to be better than the new Fast and Furious movies they've shoved down our throat the last couple. Hey, I didn't mind that last one. It was stupid as shit, but I mean...

It will be on one of my lists at the end of the year. I haven't watched it. That's another one I'm afraid to watch. I'm like, ah, this is going to be garbage. It's available. Yeah, I figured. It should be. They should pay us to watch that shit.

Jesus. I think that might be. be it Tom Clancy. Not Tom Clancy. I'm looking at the wrong thing. Clancy Brown. Sorry. Well, that's different.

Clancy Brown has joined the cast of John Wick Chapter 4. Tom Clancy and John Wick. Fuck. That looks amazing. Sorry, I was looking at another posting about him and Michael B. Jordan working on a sequel to that movie they did for Amazon.

Oh, yeah. It's a good movie. Sorry, guys. They're two different people. It's all good, man. They need to make more of them. I love the John Wick stuff for sure. They can keep going with that.

I love the John Wick stuff. I never got into the Tom Clancy. I know we're not really talking about that. Did you watch the Michael B. Jordan one? Yeah, I love that one, man. It was kind of long movie, right? Like about two and a half hours. I was shocked when they did what they did in the first 15 minutes.

Yeah, I think that's the way they did that movie is a great way to kind of kick off maybe an expanded universe connected movies. Okay, makes sense, yeah. And it was Amazon Prime, right? Yeah, so. Great, great place to have them. They got plenty of money, that's for sure. If they're sending penis-shaped rockets out into space, they can give us more good movies. Right, what happened?

that Bezos Rocket looked like a big old dick I don't miss that one Look up a picture of it It looks like a big penis It's hilarious I can't believe him I love it What do I type because I don't want to type the wrong thing

It said a Dr. Evil It's Dr. Bezos Jeff Bezos penis No wait, don't do that I'm being very careful with my search right here. Jeff Bezos Rocket. I'm not going to see nothing I don't want to see, right? Same thing.

That is a flying dick. Right? It's got the head in everything. Why did they do that? I mean, it had to be on purpose, right? Yeah. Yeah. He's like, take that Elon Musk, you and your robots.

And y'all heard about that. That's probably what it was. You all heard about the Elon Musk robots coming out now, right? Yeah, he's going to be the end of us. I'm sorry. He's making sentient robots and teaching monkeys how to play chess. I mean, you're going to give us a fucking Terminator and Planet Eats at the same time. Ah, well.

If it wasn't him, it'd be somebody else probably 100 years from now. He's just ahead of his time. A little bit ahead of his time, huh? Yeah. Man, there's no way that's supposed to look like that. Nah, it's real, dude. Yeah, it's legit. I know.

I thought I was looking at like a meme at first. I was like, ah, ha, ha, funny. Oh, no, that's really what it looks like. Okay. Maybe he was a fan of that scene in a Man of Steel. when they send Zod and all of them to the... Was that a phallic rocket? I don't remember that.

Yeah, they each were in like these little things that shot up in the air and it looked like a bunch of dicks flying in the air. Austin Powers joke, man. That was the first thing I thought of, Dr. Bezos. All right. On that note.

He's just trying to tell us that he's Dr. Evil. I think it's time for Brian to bring us the big the small oh wait Bezos is bringing Is Bezos bringing us the big or the small It's definitely Or the very very weird He brought it all

What's our trailer tonight Brian You got one Unfortunately he's very Slow week for trailers And that is we need to do something let's go with the IMDB synopsis. After Melissa and her family seeks shelter from a storm, they become trapped with no sign of rescue hours turned to days, and Melissa comes to realize that she and her girlfriend Amy might have, sorry, you've got to click on the thing,

might have something to do with the horrors that threaten to tear her family and the entire world apart. that's where I got intrigued because I thought when I watched the trail I thought it was just going to be people stuck in the room during a storm but there seems to be something a lot more sinister going on yes

let's see this stars Lissette Alexis John James Cronin Pat Healy Pat Healy's always great when he shows up Yeah he's great And he I don't I don't know if he should be drinking mouthwash like that.

But, I mean, if you're stuck in a room for days, I guess you got to do what you got to do. Sierra McCormick, Vanessa Shaw, and this is directed by Sean King O'Grady, and he is known for nothing I have seen. So we'll keep it with it. A scope commercial. Lance, what did you think? what is this global warming the movie like two tornadoes hitting each other

and they're fucking locked in their house because a tree fell down this looks horrible but I mean I'm sure I'm totally wrong I'm sure the trailer just didn't get across the point of the movie but I'm like okay so we're hunkering down

because there's two tornadoes that are going to meet each other there's a tree that fell to form a mega tornado I guess is this how is this the prequel to fucking sharknato or what? I was going to say, there better be some sharks in that motherfucker.

I mean, I'm intrigued and plus this has been getting talked about through the festival circuit. Really? Wasn't that the chick from speaking of American horror stories? Wasn't that the Rover Woman? Oh, with the short hair? Yeah. Yeah, that's her.

She seems to be a pretty talented actress, so. I mean, we're going to get. Give it a shot, whether I want to or not, because I'm sure you're going to pick it. Yep, it's on the schedule. Okay. I already got a movie paired with it, and they both are going to be involved in staying in a single room. So. Yeah, I mean, there's definitely nothing I could pick a part about the trailer.

Like, the acting looked like it was pretty on point from as much as you can tell from a trailer. My only problem is I had to watch it twice. because I zoned on the first one. Like it did not grab me. And I didn't get the supernatural thing from it. But that does sound a lot more interesting than the trailer probably was. The description sounds twice as good as the trailer. Yeah, there was a slight little thing near the end where you kind of got that aspect.

But I think if they would have kind of focused in on that a little bit more. because it just seemed more like they're trying to stay out of the way of these two tornadoes. Yeah, like a disaster movie, which are always fucking terrible. But it seems like maybe the daughter and the girlfriend

maybe have made some kind of... Covenant? Yeah, something. Like maybe they summon something. Hmm. Okay. And Pat Haley's drinking a whole bottle of a mouthwash.

Yeah, that was weird. I guess we'll play it by ear. That was an interesting scene. I liked that. That part grabbed me, but that was about the only one. Yeah, he's always great. Anything I've seen, Pat Healyan, I've enjoyed his performance. All right.

Where is the release date? September 3rd. So I believe this is a movie right around the corner. right after we do Candyman. Well, let me more and more excited about that. Let me guess in advance which one I'm going to like better. I don't know, Lance. This one looked like kind of a slow burn.

I bet you will like. We shall see, we shall see, we shall see. Lance's favorite movie of the year. I love gold. A smoke and a pancake. Yeah, I don't think the trailer probably did it justice, hopefully. Probably not. Yeah, I'm hearing a lot of good things coming out of whatever.

I don't know what festivals it's been in, but I'm hearing good things. All right. All right. That is it, I believe. I brought up the Eternals trailer, and I think that was the only big trailers that came out. It's just really nothing's coming out. No news or anything. Back at a standstill again.

Gotta hang in there, guys. Hang in there. Be strong. But we do have some listener feedback. Yay. This week, the podcast spotlight shines on Texas Podcast Massacre. Texas Podcast Massacre is a weekly horror movie podcast where host Mitch, Nate, and Lisa talk about what's new in the horror world. Have a weekly debate and review one on, uh, and review one on, uh, and review. one horror movie.

Each week they invite a special guest who typically does not watch and or enjoy horror films to jump in the conversation as their unsuspecting victim, providing reviews for both horror addicts and the horror averse. I like that. That's a good idea. Bring somebody on who just doesn't watch horror movies at all. Yeah. That's great.

Plus, it's fun to show somebody horror movies. they haven't seen before, especially like some of the great ones. Yeah. All right. We also got an email from our good friend, Jeff Laramore. He says, ha, ha, ha, I can't stop laughing. I had barely finished laughing at the stuff Pedro said in the March Madness Brackett podcast. When you have him back on again for the Green Night episode.

Ah, yeah, Pedro's fucking great. Of course, it goes without saying that all of your guests, great, but that guy cracks me up. Thanks for everything. Also, I know you guys check out other podcasts. I wanted to send you a link to a three-part podcast my son Jet did for a college class last spring. He conceived, wrote, engineered, and produced this three-part series, which examines a portrayal of disabilities across 90 years of horror movies. And since it was during the pandemic, his guest was me.

Also, there are transcripts available for any hearing impaired people who might want to read it as well. And you guys definitely got a shout out. It's only on Podbean. So please check it out on Podbean, folks. Just look for different under your Podbean app. Okay. Different. That sounds cool.

Definitely on the docket to listen to now. Shit. Love anything different, man. I like it. All right. And here is the description for the show. Oh, my bad. I wouldn't even have them with an email.

Here's a description for the show. Different is a three-part podcast series that explores the use and portrayal of disabilities over 90 years of foreign movies. And let's see. In episode one, The Golden Age, we discussed Todd Browning's Controversial 1932 film Freaks. provocative and banned because of its actual disabled characters and what would otherwise be a relative generic noir thriller. Which movie was that? Freaks.

Oh, yeah, one of us. One of us. Yeah, there you go. I think it's on HBO Max right now. Really? It's actually a good movie. Have you all seen it? I saw it.

It is trippy. Maybe like 20 years ago. I don't know that I ever have. Same here. I mean, I know of it, but I don't think I've ever seen it. It's a classic, man. But we consider whether Browning had exploited or promoted its cast members. Huh, never really thought about that.

Question. We then turn our attention to the 1931 classic Frankenstein. We discuss how freely director James Whale exploited and discarded Dr. Frankenstein's assistant, Fritz, best known as Igor, while ignoring the real monsters of this iconic movie. Hmm. In episode two, the Slashers, we call out the Internet's unfair piling on Texas Chainsaw Massacre's disabled character, Franklin. His reputation is the most annoying character in horror movie history.

They do. I listen to a lot of podcasts and watch a lot of YouTube videos. they kind of do go hard on that guy. Right. That's true. And note how, well, he's kind of whiny, though. That has nothing to do with his disability. Just don't be a whiny bitch.

It's just whining, huh? Da-da-da-da-da-da-da-lost. Anyway, and then we wrap up this episode with a review of Friday the 13th, Chapter 1 and 2, which are most notable for how tough it is to decide whether or not there is any reliable evidence that Jason Voorhees is actually disabled, or whether those visual representations are simply fragmented memories of unreliable narrators. Oh, hmm. Episode three is a modern look, reviews and analyzes the worlds created by directors Mike Flanagan and John Krasinski's. in the movies featuring disabled characters,

Hush and a Quiet Place. Both movies are highly recommended for both their interesting and compelling narrative devices, as well as the way their lead characters, disabilities are portrayed. And, yeah, those are two great movies. I love The Quiet Place, too,

the way that they showed it from her point of view when they would go to those scenes where you couldn't hear anything. Yeah. I mean, they did that in the first one, too. Yeah, they did it in hush, too. Yeah. Which is cool.

Adds a little extra tension. Mm-hmm. And we will be back with more feedback next week, but Lance is too lazy to check this week. Yeah. It's a busy week at work, boys. Sorry. I'm sorry, man. That's all I had time.

Jeff sent us a pretty good email, man. You know what? If you want to be guaranteed, to be talked about on the show, guys. Fucking email us. Yes, I love to go through Facebook and our other social media. But write this down. Everybody listening, please.

I'm going to wait a couple seconds here. Hold on. Go grab a pen. Hold on. Polk your finger in the blood. Okay, here it is. It is called. It is the horror.

No, what is it? Brian, what's her? What's her? That's your That's your department. Okay. Please email us. Please, we love emails.

Email us at Thehorror returns at gmail.com. And that is the quickest, fastest, easiest way to guarantee that we're going to have time to look up the feedback and read it on air. But we love everybody's feedback, right?

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It's all right. We know what you're saying. But we'll let you pick the movies for a future show at any amount. And for $5 or more a month, also pick a commentary for a future bonus show. And if you have a chance, please give us a five-star Apple podcast review. and you could win a steel book. It says DVD, but we mean Blu-ray. Stables are gone.

Lance, you need to get me those two winners. Oh, shit. I forget all about that. Okay. We do have copies of, what is it? Just before Don? Did I make that name up? I don't know.

But we have a couple copies. It's like, is it a porno? Maybe. All right. And now on to our featured attractions. This week it's demonic and the cell. So we're going to start with the cell. That's the J-Lo one from 2000.

Catherine Dean is a psychotherapist who is a part of a revolutionary new treatment, which allows her mind to literally enter the mind of her patients. her experience in this method takes it to uh takes an unexpected turn when an FBI agent comes to ask for a desperate favor they had just tracked down an notorious serial killer Carl Starger uh whose unfortunate uh whose method of operation is to abduct women one at a time and place them in a secret area where they're kept for about 40 hours until they're slowly drowned Unfortunately, the killer has fallen into an irreversible coma, which means he cannot confess where he has taken his latest victim before she dies. Now, Catherine Dean must race against time to explore the twisted mind of the killer to get the information she needs.

But Starger's damage personality poses dangers that threaten to overwhelm her. And that is the longest and most – yeah. Where did you get this? Where did you get this one? I don't know, but that's pretty spot on, right? It is. I mean, when you're that long, you got to be spot on. That's the plot of the fucking movie, man.

That's what she said, Brian. Oh, man, I had a sounder for that on my phone, but I should have had it ready. As long as it's not on by universe, we're good. Director is Tarcim Singh, also known for Mirror Mirror. and the TV series Emerald City. A writer is Mark Protoseithic, also known for I Am Legend and Thor. Damn. Hey, not bad.

Vincent Donofrio later admitted that his wife refused to sleep in the same bed with him for two weeks after seeing his performance in the movie. I don't blame her. Yeah, I can totally see that. The scene where Carl suspends himself on his piece, piercings, masturbated over the dead body of a woman, was not included in the U.S. theatrical or home video release. I wonder why? Out of fear of the potential NC-17 rating.

Yeah, because I didn't remember that scene. It was included in the European release, however. The scene was quietly restored in the 2015 U.S. Blu-ray of the film, despite the R-rating on the back of the case, and nothing indicating that this disc contained. extra footage. You just get it. You just get it. You know, those Europeans are really fucking weird.

Those Brits and Denmarkians, or whatever you guys are, Lars. All our European listeners. You guys are all freaks. Yeah, there was a couple things in this movie where I was like, you know, I wonder when they went

to go, like, buy that and like, where did they get that from? Like, what are the questions that you need to be asked to make something like that? All right. Lance, what did you think of the cell? I had seen it in the movie theater with AJ and rewatching it. There were a couple of nights ago, I'm like, how in the world did I get her to sit through this with me? because this is immensely disturbing.

It's a beautifully filmed movie, and I don't know if you guys have checked out any of Tarsem Singh's other films that he's directed? Like, okay, so the Mirror Mirror is a, Julia Roberts is in it, it's a retelling of, shit, which one ate the poison apple? Was it Snow White? I think so.

Yeah. Okay. Yeah, so it's, The retelling of that. I'm confused too, but yeah. Well, yeah, and it's incredibly well shot.

And I'm not exactly sure if he uses the same cinematographer on all of his movies or not, but the cinematography just blew me away on this. Obviously, the writer has written lots of great stuff. So the story, the storyline

in this from start to finish was amazing. One thing I didn't necessarily pick up on as much the first time I watched it, but I did this time. God, was this 20 years ago? Over. Yeah. And J-Lo still looks so great.

She's an alien. Maybe. Okay. Okay, so you guys did a show last week that I wasn't able to participate on, although I did watch the movie. Help me out here, Brian. Because I'm, I, Normie Nordstrom. Don't breathe. No, it wasn't that one.

It was the other, it was the older, the older, the old. Oh, Panic Room. Yeah. Okay. So the same, same director that did Panic Room. Help me out again. I know he did Alien 3. David Fincher.

Okay. I guess I'm like disappearing into the cell right now. I'm starting to trip pretty hard. Don't do that. Yeah, I think something's kicking in right now, guys. Uh-oh. You're not going to Carl's mind. Okay.

Back down to Earth, David Fincher. There's a lot of Fincher in this movie. Is it just me? Or did this inspire some of Fincher's new stuff? Like, when did Seven come out? Before or after this one? Because I saw a lot of Seven in here, and I saw a lot. before.

Okay. Well, I also saw a lot, though, of some of the newer venture stuff in here, dealing with serial killers, like the TV show that he was the showrunner for, that was on Netflix. Oh, Mind Hunter. Mind Hunter.

Bring that back. Yeah, that's a good show. Tarcum Singh can definitely appreciate the female body with some of the way, or whoever did his filming, some of the show. some of the shots of Jennifer Lopez. Like when she went into the refrigerator.

And, and, you know, I'll add on to that. It was like tastefully done. It wasn't like exploiting her, you know, body or anything. I thought it was very well done. You know what? It was taking advantage of what you had to work with. It was using what you had to work with to its full potential, right, Philip? Yeah.

And, I mean, she looked gorgeous in everything. thing, but that scene where she was just in a t-shirt and panties in her house? Aye. Whoa. Lance, he did Alien 3-7, The Game, Fight Club before Panic Room. Okay. And see, these were all great films. So I think Terseum Singh is probably inspired by a lot of that.

I'm guessing. I mean, obviously a lot of the imagery and the set design was kind of, you could understand that he's of Indian descent, right? an Indian American. I loved the way that they did the costumes, especially when she really got toward the third act when she was really disappearing into his mind. And he had kind of set himself up in his own mind as this bizarre alien-like king of his own kingdom there

with the flowing robes. She had the pieces on her to hold her at bay, kind of like Princess Leia. The costume design was on point, man. Oh, my God, dude. It was, it's just a beautifully filmed movie. I don't have too much to say about any of the performances that's negative, but I will say that Vincent DiNafrio, man,

whatever diet you were on when you filmed this movie, go back to that. Get away from the Kingpin diet. Get away from the Full Metal Jacket Diet where you were pretty chunky then. No, stay Kingpin. stay kingpin size. Yeah, this was something else, man. This is

up there. This is one of those few movies that, just a total mind trip from start to finish. I was super regretting that I hadn't had a couple of hits of acid or some shrooms or something before this thing started.

Because this is a movie that you're really selling yourself short. If you don't, at least smoke a little weed or something. They get into the mindset to open your brain up to take in imagery that you're not going to be subjected to on a normal day-to-day basis. Let's put it that way. If Vincent Dinoffreau wasn't, you know, if he wasn't at least considered for a best actor for this, he should have been, I mean, I thought he was just phenomenal as this guy. He totally sold me.

I can see why his wife didn't want to sleep with him for a couple of weeks. weeks. J-Lo, I mean, I'm never going to confuse her as one of the top actresses of all time, but she did great for what she wanted to do. Vince Vaughn, you know, considering he normally does just straight-up comedy, I think he was really, you know, he was really passable. Yeah, he did, he did the Psycho remake before this. Oh, that's right.

That and this was, he chose to do these two movies because he was trying to get out of his comfort zone of comedy. you know what just the pure horror of being and I love the scene where the girl was tracked down

in the parking garage reminded me of that one movie Brian that you had us watch for Christmas a year or two ago Oh, P2 Mm-hmm Yep

Yep Definitely got that vibe And yeah It was just terrifying to see somebody Tramination Very I mean this was

This was just an insanely Well beautifully filmed movie, very well-acted movie. It's up there, man. I mean, I guess it's considered lowbrow because of the, you know, the horror element of it. But this should always be. This movie should have been in consideration, I think, for a lot more Oscars and more high-brow consideration, which obviously it wasn't.

But I don't know. I think this is a very underrated film. All right. Brian, what do you think? Yeah, I agree with Lance. That doesn't happen a lot, but I fully agree with you, Lance. This is underrated. The visuals are amazing.

The wardrobe is amazing. The set design. These worlds that they go into, when they go into someone's mind, it's trippy as fuck. And, no, you can't, you will never say Jennifer Lopez is the best actress. but I don't think I've ever seen anything where I thought she was bad in. And I think this is probably one of her best movies. And I just have to applaud Vincent DiNafrio in this role. I mean, he's essentially playing like two or three different characters.

He's playing his actual self, not his actual in real life, but in the real world in this movie, he's playing his disturbed self. Then there's times when he's kind of more childlike, even before they kind of switch to the actual child. And then he's this king, I guess they got him down as King Stregor, this idea of himself in his mind. Right. And, yeah, it is just fucking trippy. Vince Vaughn, he's fine in it. He doesn't really do much, but he's serviceable to the role. Yeah, there you go.

Oh, bringing it back to our Hell's Kitchen Talk, Phil. The guy that played his partner, Jake, Jake Weaver, Weber, he played Special Agent Gordon Ramsey. There you go. Come on. Small world. But there's so many just disturbing scenes in here, the horse scene that gets split. Why did that happen? I don't know.

but it was fucking weird and creepy. Because it was weird and creepy. Just when he's, when Vincent is fucking King Stregor, just the way he's kind of moving. It's almost like, kind of like he's dancing, kind of just,

it's, it's weird and creepy and it works. Yeah, that little backflip thing he does. Mm-hmm. And then like where he like rolls down from a handstand and then just kind of like waddles, waddles along with his hands flailing as creepy as fuck.

Kind of like, kind of like possessed marionette starring in the opera. Yeah. Yeah. And he, the way he sounded was kind of frightening, too. It kind of sounded like, uh,

Buffalo Bill, but yeah, or deranged. Mm-hmm. Like when he first meets, John, crazy. Like when he first meets,

uh, Jennifer Lopez, and he's just like, where do you come from? You know, I was like, whoa. Yeah.

And, The scene where he, in his mind, where he displays his victims and he's got them all done up like dolls and there's a naked bodybuilder chick that's kind of like I kiss his muscle. That was scary. His mind is just somewhere you don't want to be. Yeah. I was like a G. I go. Because he's real into the toys and the dolls and stuff.

And then I just want to bring up, we get a couple. To me, they're cameos. They probably weren't cameos. they were just trying to work at this time when the movies come out. Dean Norris, Hank, from Breaking Bad. Oh, oh, hey, yeah. I was talking AJ. I said this might have gotten him his role as, what was it, Schrader in Breaking Bad, right?

The agent. He's a good actor. And then Pruitt, Taylor, Vince, is one of the doctors. He's always the guy with the crazy eyes that kind of just come from side of side. Crazy eyes. So just wanted to shout them out. But yeah, love this movie. I don't think it gets talked about enough.

And kind of reading up on this, a lot of these kind of sequences where they're in Vincent Dornofrio's mind, they're kind of, I guess they were inspired by paintings and music videos and just all kinds of stuff. Makes perfect sense. And Tarsem Singh has directed several music videos. Yes. So it makes perfect sense. done music videos for like REM and bands like that. And they have some really obscure shit. You have to really think about what does this imagery mean exactly.

And then one more, I forgot he was in a Dylan Baker. Every time I see that guy, I always think of trick-a-treat. You got to get the eyes right. But yeah, definitely if you have to get this out. I thought he was going to offer it. Lowe some candy there for a minute. Oh, never take candy from that guy. No.

But if you haven't seen it, check it out. It gets 100% recommendation from me. If you want to see the sequel, I'm going to leave that up to you, or can I recommend the sequel? Oh, I didn't know there was a sequel. Yeah, it was like a straight-to-d-d-d-d-o-out. I couldn't even tell you who the actor's playing.

Well, you've got to kind of know what you're getting into there. You know, those rarely work out. Yeah, when you don't bring back the main star and the director, you're kind of shooting yourself in the foot. Yeah. You got to work with what you have, right? Phil? Yeah, man.

I pretty much agree with everything. The visuals were fucking fantastic. I love the way that during the dream sequences, they just kind of blurred the outer edges, and everything was a little more vibrant. See, I didn't even notice that. Yeah, and there was kind of an echo in most of the voices. So it was very dreamy and atmospheric, and I like that,

and you could very easily tell which shots were in real life and which shots weren't. And so that was pretty cool. That's a mark of a great director right there. Yeah. And, man, there's some creepy Hellraiser-style imagery. in this thing. Yeah, and it's also, I didn't even bring up, it's also scary the fact that

you can lose yourself in there and forget who you are and what's real. Yeah. And the fact that he had to bring up the memory of her brother dying to snap her out of it, I was like, that's rough. That seems realistic.

What happened when you hit the ground and a dream, you know? Yeah, yeah, yeah. That seems like that would, that's how it would really work if this technology was available. Yeah. Um, now, I don't necessarily agree about Vince Vaughn, on the other hand. Passable, I would give him that. But he was definitely the weak link in this cast.

You are the weakest link. Yeah. I mean, he was, he was kind of cheesy. Yeah, I mean, he kind of like, when he has that one scene where he's talking about the girl that got raped, and he was the prosecutor, and then he decided to just chase back. guys. I was like, do you like your job? Yeah. What the fuck is going on? You just seem like... Well, now that I'm thinking about it, kind of seemed like he was sleep walking through this movie.

Yeah, there you go. It's okay. He held up. He held up his end of the tent, you know? Yeah. And especially when he started getting his guts pulled out, I think he pulled it together after that. Maybe they should have switched him with Gordon Ramsey. because that guy seemed a little bit more into it. Really? Gordon Ramsey.

Special agent for Ramsey. And then the parts between the dream sequences were maybe not as exciting. I imagine they're not supposed to be. They're just sort of for information. But some of them got a little bit slow. Anytime they were in a dream sequence, it was fantastic. And I love the idea of mashing this really scary horror imagery stuff,

because that's the kind of fucking horror movie that I like, man. Like, no jump scare. Show me something creepy. And, and mashing it together with this, like, crime, serial killer murder-solving thriller. And I thought that was pretty cool. cool. It was like the really badass episode of SVU. His, I will say

his O face is very creepy when he was jerking off, hanging there. Oh yeah. I figured, I wasn't sure if that's what he was doing at first, but then yeah, that's definitely what. Yeah, you didn't know but then when he finished,

you were like, oh, okay, that's what you were doing. Yeah. It was, uh, there was a lot of really disturbing shit in here. There was like this... Very disturbing. And one of the things

that I was talking about was like there was this little box with this like little boy doll filled with like glass dicks and shit. We didn't even talk about the boy. Did they buy that somewhere? Like who...

I'm sure they made it. Somebody make it. We didn't even talk about the... We didn't even talk about the boy in his flashback scenes to his dad just fucking beating the shit out of him and burning him

That was scary too, man I was like, no wonder you're all fucked up. And then when you see grown version of Carl and he has a shirt off, you see the fucking the iron burn scar on his chest. See, I didn't catch that

either. There's so many details in this movie. I need to see watch it yet again. It's where she's in his mind and he's sitting there like prepping the body in the tub. You can see the outline of the iron in his chest where it burned. Oh, that's attention to the detail right there.

Man, but yeah, all in all, this is a good movie, man. It is, it's definitely worth a rewatch. And I may go back to this one on a regular basis. It's a good fucking movie. Yeah, I'd forgotten how great it was. I really had. Wait to show the kids, though. Yeah, probably.

I started to because I forgot how creepy it was. Yeah, but you don't want to explain the. jerking off scene. Well, that too. Is he hurt or something? I don't know what's going on. I don't know that it's that obvious to somebody who doesn't know because I didn't, well, I was going to say it didn't click to me when I first saw it. But I guess they didn't have the scene in the movie.

So that's probably why. Yeah, I don't remember it when I saw it the theater. Yeah. Yeah, I was like, oh, that's a little dark. But so was everything in here. I love the creepy dolls and everything. All right, let's do scores on this one, Lance. Eight and a half.

All right. It's up there, man. This is, yeah, it's definitely one to rewatch over and over again for sure. Fair score. Brian? I'm also going to go eight and a half. The visuals were amazing. Everything was gorgeous.

Jennifer Lopez is a, fucking beautiful woman and they kind of, in these dream sequences in the mind, they kind of took that to another level. Yeah. And Vincent Dinoffrio, I don't know, Lance, like you said, I don't know if he was nominated or anything. He should have been because he puts a performance on in this movie. This might be right up there with full metal jacket for him. I think so too, yeah. I mean, is it as good of a movie?

No, but performance-wise, duty to do it. Great. You know what? Gosh, now I've got to make that now. I got to watch that. Guys, if you think about it, I mean, you know, say what you will about the Netflix Marvel shows, but he was pretty fucking goddamn convincing is the Kingman. Am I right?

There are rumors. And you actually cared about him. You actually cared about his backstory and his romance story is the perfect kingpin. There are rumors he may be in the movie, the Spider-Man movie. He needs to be, man. Oh, that would be great. If Daredevil is in it. I mean, it would only make sense.

Has he gotten an Oscar? I mean, this guy is, he's up there. He didn't get one to go to Mattos? He didn't get one of that. He's fucking amazing. I don't know, but I'm starting to Vincent Don'tfrio fan club right now. I love this guy, man.

I can't think of anything that he's not been great in. Can you guys think of anything he's been subparring at all? He was in that ring movie? I was just about to say that. The what? The ring movie?

Oh, the rings. The one you guys wanted. How much that I missed? He's basically Normie Nordstrom in that movie? Yeah. Okay. Yeah. But, I mean, even in that movie, I thought he did okay.

Yeah, it wasn't his fault, right? Yeah. Gotcha. Hey, he was the original Thor. There you go. Are you serious? Really? In Adventures in Babysitting?

Oh. Oh, yeah. I love that fucking movie. All right. Well, you know what? I'm going to be right there with you, eight and a half. Nice. Wow. I almost want to give it a nine.

I just, you know, like the slow parts. And I can even look past Vince Vaughn just kind of phoning in some of the little dialogue scenes. Where is my paycheck? Yeah. But, I mean, that's what the whole scene felt like. It wasn't just him. It was everybody in the scene. It was like the stuff in between the dream sequences was not necessarily exciting.

until like the last half of the movie. Fair enough. Fair enough. But yeah, definitely go watch it. Yeah, the third act of this movie just, wow. It's like a masterpiece. Like if the first two parts have been that good, this probably would have been a nine or a ten.

Yeah, like could have been an instant classic. Yeah. That's, wow. Good pick, Brian, and very good pick for going into the mind of somebody else. Which all movies that try to do that don't always pull it off. Well, we shall see. Is that foreshadowing? No, I just said that, man.

Just a comment. Our next movie is demonic. A young woman unleashes terrifying demons when supernatural forces at the root of a decades-old rift between mother and daughter are ruthlessly revealed. director and writer are Neil Blumcamp also known for District 9 and Chappie and Elysium filmed secretly in Canada

over the course of the COVID-19 pandemic should have kept it a secret yeah that's weird the first Neil Blumcamp film not to feature Sharito Copley or have cinematography by Trent Oploc. All right. Well, Lance, I think you dealt your cards. What did you think about demonic?

All right. We lost Lance. That's what we got from Lance. So let me let me jump in. I think I was probably the one that was most looking forward to this one because I'm a fan of Neil Blom camp. And I'm curious to what you think about it. Yeah, I love District 9. I love Chappie. I've grown to appreciate Elie. At least museum. Yeah. And his Oat Studios thing he put out with all the little shorts in it are fantastic. I haven't watched them. Yeah, I think Amazon Prime.

Check there. I think they're kind of put them together as like an anthology. That's cool. And they're only like five, seven, eight minutes apiece. Yeah. And it's like the quality of his movies are into these shorts. That's cool. seems to be into that.

Oat Studio stuff? Yeah. If you can't find them on the whole thing on Amazon Prime, I know, just go to the Oat Studio YouTube and you can watch them there. Okay. I was so looking forward to this movie. I thought it just visually, it was going to look cool. But man, was I so disappointed.

Oh, no! and maybe it's because Charlton Copley wasn't in it maybe it maybe it was a cinematographer cinematographer that he always uses wasn't in it I don't know I can't pinpoint I've been thinking I watched this last night and I just been thinking about it it just didn't sit right with me there was so many aspects of this movie that could have made it

I got to steal Nez's saying sorry Nez. It could have made this movie hell of good. There was so many aspects to this. And it just fell short every time. I was fucking bored. This was trying to be like four or five different good movies that all got thrown into a blender somehow. I thought it was about to change halfway through.

I thought it was going to be a different movie. Yeah. And I would have forgave me for that. I'm like, okay, it was a slow buildup to. a final act. And when it got there, I was like, okay, here we go. So I bet you guys are talking about the part that I am too.

Yeah. And when we got there, I'm like, okay. All right. All right. Now here we go. Yeah. And then I was just like, what the fuck is happening? And I was getting angry.

I'm like, Neil, you're fucking better than this. Yes. Did you just have nothing going on during the pandemic and you just wanted to make something? I think that's exactly what happened. But on the level of what we've gotten from him, including the shorts he did with OPE Studio, which is his company, this is on the bottom tier. This is low level. This is what I did not expect I would ever see anything from him. The acting's fine.

The visuals are fine. Is it, though? I was going to say the exact time. Well, from a cast of people that don't. hold on from a cast of people that you don't really know it was serviceable ohoy oi because i don't recognize anybody in this cast so it wasn't like we got fucking i don't i can't even make the actress somebody we've seen in many things in this movie if if there was an actress in the lead role that i've seen dozens of times then i would expect a lot more out of it that's true

You didn't have Catherine Hepburn show up, huh? Well, that would have been something. The story between the mom and the daughter, I felt, was dragged out. I felt like you could have told us what happened instead of just kind of dragging it on for more than half the movie. I don't know. I kind of knew that the people that were doing these tests and stuff, I knew there was a lot more to them than what they were letting on. It just kind of, they didn't really hide the fact too well.

I just nothing really other than I thought acting was serviceable, and some of the visuals look cool. I did like when they went into the world how it kind of looked like a virtual looking. Did you? Grand The Tenth Auto style? Yeah, because. I was thinking. man, if they have this advanced-ass computer system and it's glitching all over the place like that, I'm going to be a little bit worried.

But I kind of took it as when we revealed, when we got, it was revealed that who was doing this, I don't think that their technology is. I think we're going to break Lance in this one. It's a fairer parts that look like they were playing the Oregon Trail. Like a fucking text-based game from 1980. It was straight up clip, like, GTA-5 clipping stuff. Well, they would have never made it through the movie then. They would have died by getting bit by a rattlesnake. Or died of dysentery.

Oh, gosh. How many times does that happen when you play? I can hate that thing. Yeah, I hate to say it, but this might be bottom 10 from me. Might be on a list. Yeah. This might be bottom five. See, we knew if we stuck it out for the year, we'd get our top and bottom, our firm,

a firm top-ton and a firm top-bottom list. And it is proving to be the case. We're getting there, guys. Yeah, like I said, we're getting there. Like I said, I am such a fan of his and his movies. This guy, he has a style about him. Doing science fiction, he's so perfect for doing. it. When I heard he was doing a robocop movie, I got super excited.

That'd be awesome. I'd totally watch that. But I don't know what the fuck you were. He wrote this himself. I don't know if he wrote his other movies, but I don't know. He did. I went back and looked because of this movie. Was this like a, I'm not trying to shit on you, Neil, but was this like something that was just kind of tossed to the side? and you had nothing to do, and you were like, let's film this. I have a theory. All right. We're going to wait, though. Keep going. I'm sorry.

Okay. Yeah, yeah, I'm done. Because, like I said, I've been trying to be positive about my reviews and stuff, so I'm not going to try to shit on this anymore. But, yeah, this is probably one of my most disappointing. Of who was attached to make this movie, it just made it disappointing to me. There's a good word for it. Lance, what did you think? I don't think this was a Neil Blomkamp movie.

All kidding aside, guys, conspiracy theory time. He's probably dating a super hot, young, super ultra-gorgeous chick. Huh. And she said, hey, I've got an idea for a script, Neil. And he's like, oh, yeah, let's hear it. Is that what he sounds like? I don't know how he talks. He's South African.

He actually doesn't sound that different. I'm not even going to try a South African accent. I think you just did. Elon. Long story short, I don't think he did this movie. There's no way. This is so different from anything he's ever done. I don't even see a hint of his filmmaking style in this.

You know, that does happen. Is it maybe because he stepped out of what he's done before? it didn't come out right makes sense because there's a lot of the writing the writing is what concerns me he's better than that what a mass right

like I'm right you may not be wrong with that dude yeah because Phil you said you went back and you're saying he wrote his other movies well he wrote in I think he wrote maybe Elysium by himself

but Chappie and District 9 he wrote in combination with somebody else. I'm not a huge Chappie fan, but District 9 was a masterpiece almost, right? Yeah. Now, see, I am a fan of Chappie, and yeah, he is one of the writers,

and I felt like Chappie had so much heart to it. Yeah. Do you think maybe it was because he didn't have his big actor that's in all of his other movies in this? Oh, Charlton. Charles, Charles. You know what? The dude that was running the strange place that we can't say who he's

really involved with yet because we've got to save that for spoilers, but he kind of reminded me a few times. Like his looks and his camera, I got a Charltoe vibe. Are you talking about the Bob guy? Yeah, the dude that ran

the medical clinic. See, now, if you never... It's just a medical clinic, right? If you never seen him, and then he was revealed later and it was Charlott, it might have bumped it up a little bit for me. You think so?

This was a mass, dude. I mean, this was horrible. Definitely a bottom 10. I mean, firmly, firmly in the bottom 10 of the year. This could have been, like I said, four or five different pretty good movies if they'd stuck with one type of film or one genre. Yeah. It's back and forth and like, I don't know, a whole bunch of different weird people,

let's do this and let's do this and let's mix the, I see I can't say what the group is and the and I want to say a joke right now but I have to say that for spoilers so it's just I mean if you want to watch it

watch it for crying out loud it's out there you can rent it for $799 on Amazon but I wouldn't suggest maybe listen to our spoilers first yeah I'm agreeing with you. I was wondering what you guys

were thinking about this one, but I was watching it. There's a scene towards the beginning where she's sitting at a red light and she's sort of zoned back. Somebody honks behind her. And they

honk behind her, you know, which is not a terrible scene. It happens to everybody, and if they had been going for that sort of vibe, the whole movie, then I guess that makes sense. But I felt like that scene sort of encapsulated a lot of the movie. I was waiting for the goddamn light

to turn green and zoned out. I think this movie had some of the worst acting I've seen in years. Yeah, man. And the dude that ran that medical facility was just fucking, like he was, I swear to God, they had cue cards right behind the camera. I mean, this guy was just

wooden, more wood than Pinocchio, man. Yeah, wooden is a very good way to describe most of the acting. I didn't, I didn't hate the the main chick, she did pretty good. She looked like... Well, that makes one of us that didn't hate her. I didn't hate her either.

I just didn't think she was given anything to do. Right, she wasn't... She didn't do anything special, but I mean, she didn't fuck it up. She looked like, no, I just thought of it. Numi Repace. She looks like Numi were Pace. Yeah, a little bit. Come on, dude.

Maybe she can't hold Naderie Rapace's joc's trap. I didn't say she acted like her. And Numer... I don't think Numi... wears a jock strap. Like her ugly younger sister. Sorry. She's still beautiful. But her friend,

that dude that was in the movie. I thought you were talking about the other one who was so unbelievably. I couldn't. I don't know. Well, we'll get into that part in spoiler. But there was one really, there was a couple of scenes that I thought were really good. Oh.

And really creepy. I'm like, the Williwanka meme where he puts his hand on his hand and he's like, do tell. But, no,

her, the guy friend that drove the Jeep or whatever or the pickup truck. And he was garbage. Like, I hate to say that about somebody.

But man, he phoned this fucking performance in big time. he looked like he was straight up reading lines off the script. Didn't seem that. The lines were bad, too. Maybe they were talking about it.

Maybe nobody that was cast in the movie was interested in being in it. I guess. I don't know, man. Because even the Asian guy that's one of the, he was given a test, I've seen that guy in a lot of things. Oh, he said a lot of shit. He was in almost. famous. Ben Fong Torres. Really? He's doing the interview with the guy

said, this is Ben Fong Torres from Rohing's He's been in a lot of things and he felt like he was just Yeah, that's not fair because he's a decent actor. You know, he's in a lot of roles.

I didn't hate him or the other bad guy. I mean, it's obvious who they were. I mean, you know, spoiler or what the fuck ever. But you know what soon as you see them, who's bad guys. They should have switched roles. Don't, don't tread lightly.

They should have switched roles. Yeah. Thanks. I think they probably should have switched roles. I think you're absolutely right. I don't think that would have made it a bit of difference, guys. But I thought I don't hate what either one of them gave to this movie. Like those were probably two of my favorite characters.

But yeah, the rest. It was a very disappointing movie. Because when I was first watching it, I was like, oh, man, all right. You know, IFC Midnight does a lot of low-budget stuff. And I think this one was low-budget. And they did a lot of great stuff. Yeah. But they do.

Yeah. A lot of it is very artsy and really cool. And when I first started watching this one, I was like, all right, well, you know what? I'll give them a chance. Maybe it's like a first-time filmmaker or something. I didn't realize it was Neil Blumcam. Until I looked it up, and I was like, what in the fuck did he just give it? of us.

This guy went from literally being nominated for an Oscar for Best Picture for his best movie to this. Yeah. Like if he was in, if he was in Gordon Ramsey's kitchen, he'd get kicked the fuck out. It was a bad night, Neil. Um, all right. Well, let's, uh, let's do scores and, and roll the spoilers because I'm kind of excited to talk about this.

Brian, I think you went first. I don't want to give it even. Four, three and a half on ten. Yeah, I was going to say four, maybe he's a little generous. Did we see the same movie? I don't know, Lance, what did you think? I'll give it, too. Yeah.

More than I thought you were going to give it. Yeah, yeah, no, I mean, it wasn't that bad. Trust me, there's a few worse that we'll talk about. on our end of year, but I'll give it to. It'll make the list, guaranteed. You know what? It won't make the list. What's that? Escape Room, too. Oh, yes, it will.

Oh, yes, it will. It'll make my list. You wait until we hit October when they dump a whole bunch of horror movies on us. I would have to do 31 movies in one month. Oh, hey. Well, I'm going to give it... I'm going to go kind of in the middle. I'm going to say a...

No, I'll go three and a half. I think three and a half is fair. Because, you know, if it wasn't Neil Blumcamp, it wouldn't have been so bad, I think, you know? Yeah, attaching his name as director and writer and I'm seeing producer. I don't think you did it, guys. I really don't. I'm just saying with his name attached to it, your expectation goes up.

I think he's James won this one guy. Exactly. That's where I'm looking at the people involved who Because it says directed by written by produced by Mm-hmm So was it one of the actors that wrote this movie? Maybe it was just some unknown I mean because I literally just heard a Miss Pat is a stand-up comic she pitched a show

I love her Yeah she's great She pitched a show and got this sitcom on BET. But she didn't write it. She put her name on it and turned it in just in case they turned it down because her buddy voted. Okay. And she didn't want him to get blackballed if they didn't like it. And when they said that they liked it, she was like, oh, okay, well, this guy wrote it.

And, you know, all's well that ends well. but maybe maybe that's what this was maybe Neil Blum camp just put his name on the movie to hide somebody else I mean that's kind of the only thing that makes sense at this point I know

conspiracy theory and all maybe maybe he needs help writing because maybe I think Elysiums again I disagree because Elysium out of District 9 Elysium and Chappie

Elysiums kind of the lower one yeah I think that's the only one he's the only one he wrote it's the only one he wrote by himself and i love it and i think this movie was written and directed by somebody who gives a fucking all-star blowjob i have no other answer there's no way neil bomb camp did this there's no way and i there there could be a good movie in here but i think they maybe try to come smash too much shit together and then the There were so many scenes where it was just like, oh, here's this quick information to just move the story plot along. And then they'll show like a five-minute fucking scene of a car ride.

You see, that was the fucking guy, her one friend. The only reason he was in the movie was to fucking tell us what was going on. Right. Then after he was done, I was like, okay, you can, I don't know, leave. But he tells it like I was reading listener feedback. Can we do spoiler alert so we can give the big joke? Yeah, let's do it. Three, two, one.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. So the Vatican has a black observation? The what?

The Vatican has a black observation. Black Ops Division. I thought that part was fucking cool. Yeah, I thought that would have been fucking... No, when they said that, I'm like, okay, this makes a lot of sense. They're using technology

to fucking do exorcisms and they fucking suit up. And then the next time you see them, they're all fucking dead. Right. That suit up scene, that's when I was like, oh shit, here we go. This is going to be a cool movie.

It's about the turn right here. And then they're all dead. And I'm like, well, could we at least see them get killed or something? Is that as swastick as they had crosses? And like my first thought when I saw that suit up scene was where the fuck was this for the rest of the movie? I'm like, all right, here we go. This is going to be a different movie in the second half. And then it just wasn't.

And another thing. There was so many like background fucking noises. Like alarm clocks going off and phones ringing. and I see what they're kind of doing, trying to be atmospheric and all. But that she was annoying. I don't remember that. Like, there's certain things. There's certain things that I liked in this.

Like, when she would go into her mother's mind, she would basically report back that, yeah, that was my childhood home. But it was different. And they would tell her, that's how your mother remembers it. And I like little things like that. But then they just, they never played off. anything. And one thing I will always say, I love,

especially after watching an Oat Studio shorts, I love his creature designs. Yes. That was one of the things I was going to say. I did like the bad guy. That was cool when the chick started, like, she bent over backwards. That was my favorite scene in the movie. Yeah.

But, dude, we could have... Brian, you could have picked the nighthouse this week that came out. That looks kind of creepy with the the opposite mirror image house that the guy built that was her husband. Oh, like that Kevin Bacon movie? Oh, yeah, you would have had to pair it with that. I'm glad you picked this one.

I don't want to watch that piece of shit. No, I mean, but how would you think you're going to go that wrong with Neil Blumcambe directing? I mean, because this dude was supposed to direct an alien movie, you know? He was. Oh, and his concept art was so amazing. Right. Everybody was really excited about it. And he's done some really cool shit. And this was not one of those things. I think, Lance, I do think he made this, but I think he was just kind of, nothing was going on because of the pandemic and he just wanted to throw something out there.

It is. That makes sense, Brian? I just that argument, man. No, well, that's he. I, go ahead. He was, I'm sorry, he was just, he was just on Joe Rogan, actually. I was, I was doing a little. little homework and listening to the podcast. Did Joe town his movie suck? No, of course not. But that's kind of what he said when he was talking about this movie, is that

everything was shut down in the pandemic. And he was like, well, I can either do nothing or I can create something. Okay. And so he created something, I guess. And he said he'd always wanted to do kind of a low-budget horror movie. He did that. and it didn't go well. Ouch.

I was thinking maybe if this was kind of remade into it short. Yeah, they could have cut 45 minutes out of this film easily. Yeah. Which is weird because a lot of the, like, there were the transition moments in the plot where they were, like I said, I mean, they deliver this wooden ass line that made no sense just to move the plot along. and then the next scene would be five minutes of a fucking car driving and seeing the headlights from above.

I'm like, man, it's kind of a cool shot, but we've also seen it 100,000 times. What the fuck are you doing? You're just taking up time in your movie. Or you tried to rush it earlier. And the end was so fucking stupid. Yeah. You're still alive after stabbing yourself with a fucking demon-killing dagger.

I'm glad you brought that up, Brian. And the invisible demon was bad. That should have been like sacrifice. right? That should have been her getting up and walking around and being in a hospital bed and yeah. And then the guy shows up to see her in the hospital. I'm like you don't need to be here no more. We don't need

anything to explain. Yeah, like, and nobody ever felt for that character. He was just sort of there. Wow. He should have been badass. Yes. Because he was studying and doing research. Like, he knew everything that

he needed to know because of whatever incident that happened in the past. Which also made no fucking sense. Why did he know all this stuff? I think he was a part of something that I think I missed it. He was a part of something that happened. You probably didn't miss it.

No, I think that's what I was thinking. I was like, there's something that he was involved in that I don't understand? I think they kind of, they referenced it, but didn't explain it. Yeah. Something happened, which led him to do research. And he just kind of, like

he knew about the mom when she made that thing with the chicken bones or whatever, the little... I don't know, man. It was a stretch for him to be that guy all of a sudden. It should have been the best friend. He had the trailer that he opened up.

It should have, we should have got all that from the best friend. Yeah, the best friend was just like, the best friend was just window dressing, just a hot chick to show up. She was the worst. She was the worst actor in this movie. I liked that scene where she bent over backwards. I did too.

That was cool. But that wasn't her. Yeah, that's true. I mean, but even like before she puts the mask on and she's like, you can find me in the woods or whatever. Yeah, I thought they were going to lead to something. That was pretty creepy. They were going to find her in the fucking woods. Well, they did.

No, it was just to lead them to because where they found her was close by where they took her mom. That was the only reason they did that. Yeah. Yeah. And, yeah, the creature design was cool. I didn't like the invisible fucking bird monster at the end, though. That was kind of ridiculous. I was like, all right, jump the shark here.

Jump the shark? Fucking Neo Blom camp. Shark was jumped five minutes into the movie. Are we done? Yeah, I think we are. I guess so, man. Disappointing, disappointing. Uh-oh.

Is NAS back? No, that was me. As always. Hopefully he's got some other stuff in the shoot, man. I'm not counting him out, but this one was not, like, he should not have left. He shouldn't have let this come out. Down, but not out, huh? Yeah, I mean, but you've got to have some kind of quality control, man.

There's no way that he watched this movie and went, wow, that's really good. I'm proud to have my name on that. do you think maybe he owed the studio a movie or something that he just like here what's in my drawer oh here's this script i never wanted to do very possible man well i mean i imagine it's going to make money just off the name and if it was low budget i mean it might just be a paycheck i'm seeing here reception it is a 13% on rotten tomatoes You know, this thing was $7.99 just to rent it on Amazon. Right.

They heard to go to the cash grab, aren't they? Yeah. You guys right. Either he was running out of money or, I mean, it's just cash cap. It was Neil Baumkamp. He just threw it out there to make some money. Yeah. That's just what I'm thinking.

Like, maybe the studio was like, you know, we haven't gotten anything from you in a while. What's going on? And like I said, he dug through his desk, and he was like, here's the script I wrote when I was 12. Yes. Because that's what it looks like. That's what some of the lines are like. The writing is really fucking bad, man. It doesn't make any sense.

He's probably on an I-N-Waska trip. I mean, the idea is cool. I don't mind to mesh and all that shit together. It was just the lines and how they got there, like the details of it were. Not good. Okay. Damn it, Neil. And the outro, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns.

We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. This is bad. Neil, we love you. Please come on the show. Okay. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can always reach us at the Horror Returns at gmail.com. And please, for feedback, folks, email us.

please. We love your Facebook feedback, but emails we're going to guarantee to read those on every show. But follow us everywhere and look for us on The Horror Returns. Google, since our website's still not up, because Philip and I are still too lazy to actually make the website. But one day we will have the Horror Returns.com, because we did buy it, so we might as well use it. Next week. Now, this is going to be a top ten, Brian. What movie are we going to watch next? week, Brian? The spiritual

sequel reboot? I don't know what it's in the way that's making me hate it. It's Candyman, dude. Candyman. Candyman.

It looks like you're taking it a little more seriously. The movie that's Candyman. The thing that kind of has got me a little bit hyped is the director. I forgot her name. Nia, I forgot your name. I think based off of this, they gave her the Captain Marvel sequel.

You know what? If it's got Candy Band on it, I'm totally in, dude. And Tony Todd, that definitely makes an appearance in this movie. I'm going to call it now. We're going to get Candy Men. Oh. Ah. Okay.

There was a line in the movie where... When there was a line in the trailer saying, I think they were asking who is Candy Man, and he said he's not a who. he's the whole damn hive. Right, the whole damn hive. That's right. So what part does Manta play in this? He is the lead role who is one of these people that has been told stop saying Candyman. So is he going to be in the beehive, you think?

I think he's going to be one of them. Okay. All right. So we're also going to check out 2005's The Boogie Man. Never heard of it. I apologize ahead of time. All right. Well, so until the horror returns again, Brian.

Good night.