The Horror Returns - THR Ep. - #277: Tenebre (1982) & Malignant (2021)

Episode Date: September 16, 2021

This week, we check out the James Wan directed Malignant as well as 1982's Tenebre. Cool of the Week includes Graceland (yes, THAT Graceland), Hell's Kitchen, Superhost, and What If? Trailers this wee...k are The Matrix 4 and Hawkeye. The podcast spotlight shines on Not Your Final Girl. WE HAVE A BRAND NEW 5 STAR APPLE PODCASTS REVIEW from Donny from Brothers Grim! And we get feedback from Cryptmaster Chucky, Daeron Wilson, Lyle Huckins, Anthony Ybarra, Tavares Ellis, Mike J Marin, Warren Minnix, Marcey Papandrea, Bede Jermyn, and Steven T Boltz. Thanks for listening!  

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hey, this is Tom Atkins. If you want to throw me, you've got to listen to the horror returns. Bridging victims, for those of you, delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify. Welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware.
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Starting point is 00:01:17 Philip, Brian and Kevin might be jumping on later, so we'll see how that goes, but how's it going, guys? It is going. How was everybody's week? It was a week. More work.
Starting point is 00:01:35 Same shit, different day just now it's raining. Yeah. Yeah, we've got a tropical storm coming. Yeah, so Rain it up here too. Is it? Yeah, for like the last, I'd say like week. It's gross outside.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Yeah, so if you hear some wind outside, it's just a hurricane, don't mind that. All right. Got to have sound effects. Man, I was on vacation, so that's always fun. How was it? It was cool. There's a lot of driving, though, dude.
Starting point is 00:02:08 We bet off a lot to chew, man, because we we drove from i guess houston to memphis memphis to nashville Nashville Nashville to Birmingham Birmingham to Panama City Beach and then back over to Houston that is a lot of driving there's a lot of driving yes but uh don't get it was worth it man in fact um I uh you guys might if I jump in cool of the week yeah go ahead okay so if you've seen any number of movies about Graceland, because there's been a lot of them, right?
Starting point is 00:02:47 And then, of course, Graceland was destroyed in Zombie Land too, but they had that cheap motel. It was like I guess an ode to Graceland or right across the street from it, but in reality, man, it's pretty cool, dude. Out of our whole vacation, that was actually one of the coolest
Starting point is 00:03:04 things. I cannot believe the fucking private jet that Elvis wrote around in. You guys ever seen it? I think I've seen pictures. It's called the Lisa Marie, and it's like a full-sized jet, and we walked in,
Starting point is 00:03:23 and there's like a fucking golden toilet and sink in the bathroom to the right when you first walk in. Is that the one that he died on? I think that was in his house. Once you leave there, man. it's like okay that's cool there's like some you know sitting rooms chairs on each side of a table and stuff like that and then you go into the next room and there's like a tv room like an entertainment room for him
Starting point is 00:03:50 and then you go to the next room and it's like a like a meeting room and then after that there's a full-sized fucking bedroom like a king-sized bed and everything huh on the plane on the plane pretty impressive man pretty impressive man pretty impressive And if that dude just had stayed away from the opioids and the barbiturates and all that, man. Actually, he may still be around. According to Bubba Hotep, I guess he is, right? Or so they say. If he was hiding somewhere, it'd be in Vegas.
Starting point is 00:04:30 Well, they did a lot with that place, man. And AJ said that they had built up a lot of, like, it's almost like an amusement park now. They have like a whole bunch of restaurants, shops, and extra museums. Dude, dude, own like fucking two dozen cars, man. Like Rolls Royces, jeeps, motorcycles, like motorized tricycles, sports cars, you name it. He was living the life, man, until he wasn't. Yeah, I mean, you got everything you want in the world. What do you spend it on?
Starting point is 00:05:07 Drugs. Yeah. I know we would. Hopefully we would go over the top, but I mean... Oh, no. If I was Elvis, I'd be dead long before he was. Kind of thinking the same thing, man. Who's fooling who here, right? But yeah, no, man, cool of the week, Grace Land.
Starting point is 00:05:26 Very, very impressive. Lots of history. All right. Well, man, I got, like, nothing this week. Not a single thing. I've done nothing, except. work and binge watch Hell's Kitchen.
Starting point is 00:05:44 I'm still stuck on that fucking show. Oh, yeah. That must be your cooling week then. It definitely is, man. It inspires me to cook some, too. It doesn't teach you a whole lot on the show, but I really want to cook some fucking scallops. Yeah, that's the lesson.
Starting point is 00:06:06 If you're going on that show, you better know how to make some scallops and some risotto. You would think, because they do it every fucking season, and these guys suck at it every time. But yeah, that's all I got other than the movies, although I'm excited to talk about the movies this week. Yeah? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:06:25 It's always a good sign. What do I have? I got two movies. First one is The Last Matinee. Slash a movie set in a theater. during the last matinee of the night. Ooh. Sounds interesting.
Starting point is 00:06:46 Yeah, it was pretty good. A Spanish language movie. I think it's Argentine, from Argentina, if I'm saying that correctly. Argentinian. Yeah, there you go. I think. I don't know. Yeah, decent premise are good acting.
Starting point is 00:07:07 The practical effects for the kills were pretty good. I like the setting because it was in one of like kind of the old school theaters You know projection theater I'm not even actually now I'm thinking about it I'm not even sure when this movie was set in Just the fact that the theater was so old school Okay
Starting point is 00:07:28 But yeah killer kind of gets in there Locks the place down and just Kits to murdering people So So was it like popcorn where they had like smell of vision and ghosts coming down
Starting point is 00:07:45 the ceiling and shit like that? No, that's a good movie. But, no, it's basically it's not that many people that were in there. It's like a couple of teenagers. One kid that kind of snuck it, he was hiding when the usher was kind of, you know, making sure nobody was in there.
Starting point is 00:08:03 And then like a couple, like a couple and a couple of old people. So not that many people in there. So, but yeah, decent movie, though. I think this one is coming to Shutter this month, I think. So anybody wants to check it out. It's going to be on there. But my cool of the week is on Shutter, and it's called Superhost.
Starting point is 00:08:31 Oh, we saw the trailer for this. Yes. Okay. It sounds familiar. Yeah, it's, okay, it's a couple. they have a YouTube channel they're like one of those vacation vloggers where they go to like Airbnb
Starting point is 00:08:45 or hotels and kind of you know review them and they go to one place where which is the way they made it seem it was kind of hard to get reservations in and when they go there they meet the owner and she's
Starting point is 00:09:00 fucking wacky from the beginning and that's what made the movie from me was her performance because she is a fucking that job. Superhood. It sounds like something AJ and I
Starting point is 00:09:13 should probably start doing, Brian, when we do all our travels, right? Yeah, why not? Start doing some blogging. Get their YouTube money.
Starting point is 00:09:21 Make a living going on vacation. Yeah. Because we're sure as hell not getting the YouTube money from the horror returns yet, are we?
Starting point is 00:09:28 Too fucking lazy to get the channel going. But super host, yeah, definitely check that one out. All right. Nice.
Starting point is 00:09:37 Ah, guess that's it, huh? Yeah. All right. Well, I guess that means that now it's time for horror headlines. Brought to you by The Inimitable Brian. Take it away, man.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Don't know what that word means, but I will take it. Oh, Barbara Crampton is in Superhost, huh? Yes, yes. Ah, okay. I'm sold. Always nice to see her pop in. Which I didn't even know she was in the movie until she showed up. I was just like, hey, it's Barb Crampton.
Starting point is 00:10:11 Very nice. Let's start with some couple of release dates here. James Wands, which I just now found out, produced Salem's Lot remake. Don't try to trick me again, James Wan. I know your tricks. The Salem's Lot remake gets a September 9th, 2020. 22 release. And a couple of cast,
Starting point is 00:10:43 new cast editions. Who was it? Alfrey Woodard. And who else was it? Can't think of it now. Somebody else is in it. Oh, William Sadler. That's who was in it. Oh, he joins the cast.
Starting point is 00:11:00 Okay. And Guillermo del Toro's Nightmare Alley, which was one of those movies that was supposed to come out, like a year ago. It gets a December 17th this year release date, only in theaters, which
Starting point is 00:11:15 I'll see it when I believe it, because everything's kind of getting pushed back and pulled. Yeah. Still going on, huh? The prequel to Orphan, Orphan First Kill, has been acquired by Paramount
Starting point is 00:11:32 for release. And it's the same actress, right? Yeah, that's why I'm kind of eager. to watch it because I want to see how they make this happen. Isn't that it 20 fucking years ago? Yeah. It's been a while, dude.
Starting point is 00:11:47 He's going to be old as shit. No shit. I love the concept of that movie, though. Yeah. So I'm dying to see how they make this happen. It'll be interesting. Let's see. I guess the biggest, I was supposed to bring this up last week,
Starting point is 00:12:04 but I kind of left it off my notes. The new paranormal activity movie is coming to Paramount Plus this Halloween. Hmm. Well, Philip won't be seeing it because it's still CBS all access anyway you slice it. Oh, yes. Also, the Fetéry Alvarez produced Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie, which is a direct sequel to the original one,
Starting point is 00:12:32 has been acquired by Netflix. And from what I'm hearing, this will come out in October. Man, I'd like to get excited about it, but I feel like a new sequel or remake or whatever that fucking movie comes out every couple of years. I'll believe that one when I see it, too. Yeah. And the biggest news, which came to, came by surprise to everybody, Halloween kills will release on Peacock the same day it releases in theaters. That'd work. That's strange.
Starting point is 00:13:11 Yeah, it just kind of came out of nowhere. I remember I was done posting news and trailers for the day on all, you know, our social media accounts. And then it just popped up. And I had to do some double checking because I was like, is this real? Well, I'm sure you got to pay extra for it or some bullshit, right? You think so? It's not just on their like free service. Yeah, it is.
Starting point is 00:13:36 I mean, well, no, if you're the paid service. On the paid peacock thing? Okay. Yeah, but I get the free one, and I just sit through the commercials, but you're saying it won't be on that one. As far as I, I mean, I get the paid one because I get the WWE network, which is still fucking horrible on there. But, yeah.
Starting point is 00:14:00 And those big movies come out and on these streams, like, a malignant wouldn't go on our HBO Max thing. Right. Like, it made me try to change plans or something. So I was like, are you serious? Maybe I'll take a different route. Now, wait a minute. I thought malignant was on HBO Max, period, dude.
Starting point is 00:14:22 What are you talking about? I don't know. It said it wanted me to change plans. Change plans. I'm using my sister-in-laws HBO Max. Oh, maybe you only get so many TVs or something like that, right? I don't know what's going on with it. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:14:41 Okay. Well, it was out there, so. Hmm. Okay. Well, somewhere it's fine. You know what, though? I've noticed about HBO Max, and I don't know if it's just because of that nice new TV that I've got, but the fucking, the picture quality on everything I've seen on HBO Max has been just phenomenal.
Starting point is 00:15:04 Like, it almost seems like it's better than a lot of the other streaming services. Well, I think Malignant was in 4K. They were streaming in 4K. Yeah, it makes sense because it looked beautiful, man. But we'll get to malignant later because I have some thoughts on that one. But, yeah, three kind of big horror releases coming in October. So that's pretty cool. Very nice.
Starting point is 00:15:31 And if you guys remember, when we reviewed the last Halloween, that was probably my worst fucking theater experience since doing this show. Oh, yeah. I think I'm, I might stay home for this one, but. Well, on the upside, at least COVID has scared a lot of the idiots out of the theater. Well, we hope so. Right. I mean, I've only been to the theater a couple of times since it happened, but it's been a way better experience than normal.
Starting point is 00:16:04 You don't have fucking moron back there is not paying attention in talking the whole time. Brian can do an advert for the peacock network. Stick it to the cock or stick it with the cock. I don't know. There's something in there somewhere, Brian. Yeah, fix your fucking WWE network. The shit is so fucking hard to manage and search for shit. It's like you just had to take a look of what it was before and just bring it over.
Starting point is 00:16:34 I don't know why they try to make it difficult to... find anything. Yeah, the peacock thing is a little confusing. Is it? I mean, I just, I haven't really tried to use it, but I know they have their paid and the free and the... Right, right. Like, they sort of advertise it as free, and then sometimes it's not. Ah, that sucks.
Starting point is 00:16:58 Yeah, I just do the free service, you know. I just like watch a lot of the old Saturday Night Live shows, of course, which are, you know, obviously all on there. Then, like, Rutherford Falls, I've checked out some episodes of that. It's not too bad. A couple of commercials. It's just like old school TV, you know? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:17:17 See, and you know what? I'm not mad about that type of streaming service. Like, I'm kind of done with my CBS All Access rants. But because when they first came out, dude, nobody was doing that shit. They were just the first on the seat. And they just went straight up, hey, you can't watch our shit. unless you pay for it. How about that? I'm like, no, motherfucker. You're a multi-billion-dollar corporation that has advertisers out the fucking mazoo. I'm not paying for your shit.
Starting point is 00:17:47 Is this a new rat? Here we go. Is this a new one? Yeah, I guess so. This is the new one. Place the whole one. But that's why I was so mad at the whole situation. I feel like at least NBC has done their fans a service and at least giving some sort of free streaming
Starting point is 00:18:09 because at the end of the day you are network television motherfucker well have you guys so have you guys watched any of the the peacock originals like Rutherford Falls for example uh
Starting point is 00:18:23 I can't say though it's it's pretty cool because it's like you're getting you know like regular NBC TV with commercials but you also get a few F bombs in there which is really awesome
Starting point is 00:18:34 So I got no problem with it It's like Tubey, right? Like you have to sit through a few commercials, but you don't have to pay a penny. Yeah, I'm fine with that. Yeah, peacocks like that. So if I can watch Halloween kills and sit through a few commercials,
Starting point is 00:18:52 I'm fine with that, you know? The price you pay, right? My wife has been stuck on Pluto live TV watching fucking Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders reruns over and over. God, that sounds horrible. Pluto is pretty fucking good, free service, too. Is it?
Starting point is 00:19:09 What is that bad watch? It's almost like the way it's kind of set up is it like you had cable and you're just kind of flipping through channels. And they got channels like dedicated to like certain shows or genres. Yeah, it's just a free TV service and then they have commercials. That's not bad. That makes sense. So it's streaming then It's not on demand
Starting point is 00:19:37 It's actually like streaming channels then Yeah Yeah Kind of like Roku then I guess Yeah Rooh What was that fucking
Starting point is 00:19:45 What was that fucking show We were talking about When we were talking about Don't Breathe The first one With the actress You said she was on some show That was on Hulu
Starting point is 00:19:58 You mean the original Actress from the first Don't Breathe movie No Yeah Yeah I'm going to have to buy some time while I'm
Starting point is 00:20:10 like a musical or something No it's not horror No it's not horrors uh never oh jane levy yeah that show she's on that was on hulu uh zoe's extraordinary playlist yeah uh i'm just bringing it up because we were talking about free streaming but i guess it did the castle rock castle rock what
Starting point is 00:20:33 you're talking about castle rock right the musical one that you love so much where they sing and dance and everybody's so happy never mind we're way off topic i just threw up on my mouth a little bit you say that apple tv show smegadoon okay that was the news that sounds like bad word whatever it is i'm pretty sure it's gonna get us in trouble at some point Is that the news? Yep. We ended up with two trailers, right?
Starting point is 00:21:13 I'm saying it! Yep. We jump right into trailer park. Let's do it, man. All right. The first trailer was one that dropped today as we're recording, Disney Plus's Hawkeye series. Hmm.
Starting point is 00:21:32 We're all going to watch it. Let's not get ourselves. But this stars, of course, Jeremy Renner, Haley Steinfeld, Vera Formiga. Oh, that should make you happy, Brian. Yes, it does. Florence Pugh is going to reprise her character as Yelena. Okay. I didn't see Vera Formiga in the trailer.
Starting point is 00:21:58 I didn't either. She had, like, one quick, like, second. Oh, okay. trust me i i recognize fearful me ago when i see you that is a weird fetish but okay thank you pride myself on that one uh i started off um i he hawkeyes has always been a character as far as the mc u that i didn't really care about yeah but i i like the setup for this because of course this is again another series setting up the young um Avengers, kind of the new, the new era.
Starting point is 00:22:37 Oh, I gotcha. Okay. And if you guys saw the, the, the end credit scene for Black Widow, you know, we're going to get that storyline in this series. Which is, okay. Spoiler. Spoiler. Everybody skip ahead a couple of minutes. Yelena at the grave of Natasha and then the one chick from the Falcon and Winters.
Starting point is 00:23:07 soldier show shows up and basically tells her Hawkeye is the one responsible for your sister's death. Oh. Ouch. Well, that'll open up a can of worms, won't it? Yeah. And it looks like a nice alternative to Christmas shows, because this has a Christmas theme. Oh, yes, it does.
Starting point is 00:23:28 Very much so, man. That was kind of my only issue with the trailer is the Christmasy shit going on in the background. Like, I mean, I guess I get what they were trying to do, but it's, you know, It looked like it was going to be really cool, except for, you know, fucking jingle bells. I think that's just going to be, I think it was just for the commercial. Yeah, I know. It was kind of irritating commercial.
Starting point is 00:23:52 They showed some, like, Christmas trees and a wreath and Christmas lights and all kinds of shit. So, I don't know. It's interesting. Marvel's done some weird stuff for their TV shows, that's for sure. Yeah. It just seems like weird background music first. in action. It really does, doesn't it? Yeah. Having said that, all the
Starting point is 00:24:11 footage look great. Yeah. Hey, I'll tell you what, I hadn't seen Bumblebee before, and I finally caught that the other night. I'm impressed with Haley Steinfield. She's a pretty good little actress. Yeah, she was a movie. What was that movie?
Starting point is 00:24:25 She was in, I think, Edge of 17. She was pretty good in that one, too. I remember true grit. Yeah. She was like super young in that one, right? Yeah, yeah. I didn't realize that was all the same person.
Starting point is 00:24:40 That's pretty cool. Yeah. She's the one that fell in the rattlesnake pit at the end. Spoiler alert. And I don't know if you guys noticed, but another angle they're going to play into this is I saw the hearing aids in Hawkeyes' ear. Oh, what?
Starting point is 00:24:57 Because in the comics, he starts to lose his hearing. Oh. No kidding. And I've seen a little, I'm assuming they were ear, hearing aids and not earpieces because it was during a scene where I don't know why he would have an earpiece in.
Starting point is 00:25:15 Just too many Avengers explosions right next to him. So, yeah, I think it's fair to say that we'll all be checking out Hawkeye. Yeah, kind of have to. You know, he did have one of the best lines in the whole series when... Did he?
Starting point is 00:25:37 Age of Ultron when he's talking about, I can't remember specifically what it was, but he just kind of breaks down the whole battle scene, and he's like, and I have a bow and fucking arrow. He's talking to Wanda. Yeah. He was like, none of this makes any sense. Yeah. Kind of like the old joke about Aquaman.
Starting point is 00:25:58 I talk to fish, and then they carry that over to the deep in the boys. It's like, what's your superpower? I can talk to fish. And I'm seeing here, this will also have a character named Echo, who she will get her own Disney Plus spinoff show. She is a Native American superhero that is also, I believe she's deaf, so I think that'll play into the whole Hawkeye losing his hearing. Oh, gotcha.
Starting point is 00:26:30 That makes sense. Yeah, I feel like they're probably going to go, off on this tangent of weird superheroes that nobody's ever heard of and eventually bring it back home and use the property that they actually bought.
Starting point is 00:26:48 Let's go back to Avengers and X-Men and stuff. Nez, what you think about Hawkeye? Trailer? Yep. Oh, man, I was juiced. Yeah? I'm ready. Ready for Christmas? I'm ready. I'm glad
Starting point is 00:27:03 they didn't show what's her nuts yet Echo? Yeah, you guys saw Black Widow, you know she's coming. Yeah, we just talked about her. She's getting her own series. I don't know about all that, but all right, I'll watch it. But yeah, it looked pretty good.
Starting point is 00:27:22 I wasn't sure on what they were going to do. But, all right, I mean, is it going to be, to me, it seemed like it was going to be a comedy. I hope not, but we'll see it, Because it just seemed like there was just slat, sticky jokes. But I don't know. Yeah, maybe that was it with the Christmasy thing going on in the background. It was like too lighthearted.
Starting point is 00:27:46 Yeah, so they're just going to be running around in the winter and the Big Apple. I thought it was going to... I want... Well, hopefully this will lead into the West Coast Avengers. I'm going Young Avengers. They hinted it in one of those... previous films. I don't know which one, because they were saying they were going to start something out west. So I was hoping for that, but I don't know. I guess I got to introduce
Starting point is 00:28:13 all the characters first before they start the West Coast Avengers, but I don't know. We also have a bunch of spinoffs like The Walking Dead. I don't know. We'll see. Do you guys do cool the week already? Yeah, go ahead. Real quick, Hawkeye, Disney Plus, November 24th. Give us your cool. Well, it was last week's. When did I see it? I don't know whenever I said,
Starting point is 00:28:44 but I saw Shang-chi again. That was badass. And what if? The Marvel Zombies. That was the best one so far. So I'm in. If they continue, I would like to see more of that story,
Starting point is 00:29:02 but because the way it ended, I was like, Oh, man, but I don't know. Me and my son had all kinds of questions. But that timeline isn't in the timeline we know. So I don't know. Because we're like, well, we're stores. He's still floating out in space?
Starting point is 00:29:20 And we're like, I don't even know if that happened yet. Or if that happened at all, if, spoiler alert, if Thanos was at the end. But I don't know. We'll see. But, yeah, Shang-chi, that movie was badass. I had to go see it again. There was something else I watched. Oh, it came out Friday, I believe.
Starting point is 00:29:45 Kate. I finished that. I liked it for what it was. That Mary Elizabeth Winstead, or however you say her name. I've always liked her since I've first seen her. Yeah. I see that she's got potential to be an action star if they're going to choose to
Starting point is 00:30:05 if she chooses to pick those roles, cool. I mean, was her fighting skills and all that the greatest? No. But she's got potential to do something if she just trains a little more. Because it did look a little sloppy, but I mean, it was her. There was no CG fighting, DGI fighting
Starting point is 00:30:23 or anything. But yeah, if you guys haven't seen that on Netflix, though. What's that called? Kate. Oh, Kate. I thought she said cake. The one with Jennifer Aniston. That's been a while. Was she fighting in that one?
Starting point is 00:30:40 I don't know. Cake was the one where she made herself look real plain. She had some kind of mental condition or something. Do you guys remember that? Yeah. I don't remember any fighting in it, though. No, no fighting. Just like a drama.
Starting point is 00:30:55 All right. On to the second and final trailer. The Matrix Resurrection. Let's see. I Anu Reeves is returning. Kary Ann Moss, Jada Pinkett Smith. And let me see if I get his name right. The guy that is in everything.
Starting point is 00:31:16 Yaya Abdul Mateen II, who was in Candyman, the Watchman. Wow. In the upcoming Mad Max sequel or spinoff, guys everywhere. Jessica Henwick, Jonathan Groff, Neil Patrick Harris, Harris,
Starting point is 00:31:36 Priyanka, Chopra, Jonas, if I said her name, right? And Christina Ricci. Maybe the Jonas brother, I forgot about that. Ouch. I'm in. I didn't know if I didn't know if I was in because I didn't know if we needed a sequel
Starting point is 00:31:55 almost 20 years after the last one. Uh-huh. But I like what I'm seeing. Everything, the special effects look updated. Yeah, everybody keeps talking about he's got his John look, John Wick look in this movie, and it's because
Starting point is 00:32:14 he was filming this and John Wick at the same time, because we were supposed to get both of them this year. That's right. That's right. I was like, did John Wick crossover to the Matrix? I think so. I think so. Originally before the pandemic,
Starting point is 00:32:30 originally before the pandemic happened, they were, they were billing this as the Matrix and John Wick were supposed to release the same day last year, or this year actually. How amazing would that have been for Kiano?
Starting point is 00:32:45 Just in general. That's a big fucking day. That's a double feature right there, huh? You know you're going to own the box office. And Yahya Abdul Matine II has confirmed he is playing a version of Morpheus.
Starting point is 00:33:02 Okay. Okay. Like a young Morpheus? I got it. Yeah. I still think Lawrence Fishburn has show up, even though he keeps saying he wasn't asked to be in it. You know, kind of like how Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield keeps saying they're not in the new Spider-Man. Yeah. But, of course, they have to be, right?
Starting point is 00:33:21 Yeah. So. Well, first guy has Fishburn, man. How would you not ask that guy to be in the new Matrix movie? But action looks great. Special effects look great. It's good to see Keanu back as Neo. So, I mean...
Starting point is 00:33:37 Didn't Neo die in the last one? I don't remember. I got to rewatch it. It's no resurrection, man. Come on. I know Carrie Ann Moss died. Maybe he just... Maybe he got stuck back into the Matrix
Starting point is 00:33:53 and doesn't remember anymore. See, those movies went way over my head. I didn't understand the second or the third one. Yeah, the second and third one got kind of. kind of silly. It lost me when that one guy showed up. What was it? The architect?
Starting point is 00:34:10 Yeah. And I was like, who the fuck are you? Yeah. They just started talking, and I didn't know what was happening. I know the architect for the Matrix. Sorry, go ahead. And the third one, the only thing I remember is that one dude that had that Hulkbuster suit on with the machine guns and was
Starting point is 00:34:32 blasting all those octopus things. that's the only thing I remember I mean everyone kept saying that you had to watch Animatrix and play the whatever that Matrix game was for PlayStation 2 they said all that fit in
Starting point is 00:34:48 I don't know I'm just gonna have to watch some videos on YouTube for someone to explain it because I just it went right over my head the first one was the best one Of course Second one was cool I mean my favorite part was
Starting point is 00:35:04 whole freeway chase. Only because they filmed it in my hometown in downtown Oakland, so I thought that was awesome. And then they rolled over into Alameda to the naval base where they built that freeway. So it was kind of like a circle. That's why the freeway in the movie had walls because they were just going, they were pretty much going in a circle. And they just... I was going to say California doesn't seem like the best place to shut down a fucking freeway for a movie.
Starting point is 00:35:34 No, it was a big old open pad or something out in the naval base. They just built it there. Because it was close to the skate park. And I remember when all the trucks were rolling and we didn't know what they were doing. And then they started building something. All we saw was wood from where we could see. And we didn't know what it was. And then later someone goes, yeah, they're filming the Matrix over there.
Starting point is 00:36:00 But we couldn't see anything. That whole place was locked down. I mean, we could see the set, but we saw the cars that they were going to use in the scene. That was about it. I mean, it was just cars. It wasn't like there were special cars that they made. But I don't know. That was all we saw from where we were.
Starting point is 00:36:22 That's all we could see. I mean, that was the only thing I remember that one. But, yeah, when the architect stepped in, went over my head. I didn't know. You were out, huh? And maybe they'll bring it all together, man. I hope so. Maybe they'll all fuck up and not make even more sense.
Starting point is 00:36:40 I don't know. Yeah, it was just those last two movies kind of got a little out there. I can't really even remember any part of the storyline about them. But this one looks interesting. I'm fucking stoked. It's a good reason to go back and it's a good reason to go back and rewatch the other movies, I think. Yeah. I think only one Wachowski is directing.
Starting point is 00:37:02 not both of them. Mm-hmm. So. Oh, no. We only got the half of Wachowski. A half of Wachowski. Philip, to kind of answer your question about malignant, you're not finding it. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:17 I guess HBO Max has, because real quick, the Matrix resurrection is going to be in theaters and HBO Max at the same time, December 22nd. Yeah. And it says it will stream directly on HBO Max on its ad-free tier. apparently they have tears now See I think that's what I was subscribing to and then somebody stole my fucking account and changed the email address.
Starting point is 00:37:43 I definitely have the ad-free tier. There's no doubt about that. I didn't know there were two ads in those. I did either. How do you throw an ad on an HBO movie that kind of defeats the purpose? You get to watch a trailer for HBO show over and over. Aye. Yeah. I'm fucking stoked about this one, man.
Starting point is 00:38:02 They made the hair of my arms stand up. I'm so nice. Yeah. What's this one called Matrix? What? Resurrection. Okay. I mean, we were supposed to get it last year? Yes.
Starting point is 00:38:18 Yeah. All right. Yeah, my buddy saw. They were filming it out in front of his, he works in San Francisco, and they were filming stuff right out in front. Right. And he goes, I didn't see anybody. I don't know what parts they were filming there.
Starting point is 00:38:34 I said, but they were out there. everyone stay in the buildings. And he was just looking out the window watching him. But he wasn't sure what they were doing. He said there was a bunch of cars driving along. So I don't know. He said there was no gunfire or anything. So I said weak.
Starting point is 00:38:51 Yeah. You know we'll all be there on an opening scene somewhere. We'll be there on opening day, right, Naz? Yep. I just want a lot of gunfire. I mean, because that first, that first one, they did a lot of explaining mainly for for neos sake but once he kind of bought in and that whole scene when they rolled into that building and just started gunning everyone up uh that was pretty sweet i remember first seeing the the trailer and then going really slow and the bullets passed in him if you watch those now it's well okay let me uh matrix reloaded the second one
Starting point is 00:39:35 I watched that one recently. That scene when he was fighting all the agent Smiths. Yeah. Oh, where he looked like a cartoon? Oh, it looks, it did not hold up. Yeah. It looks. It was awesome when we first saw, but watching it now in 21, I was like,
Starting point is 00:39:55 this looks terrible, but we're just spoiled with how technology is. But who knows? You know what does hold up? Every scene in the first Matrix. Oh, yeah. Yeah, you're right. Okay, I'm ready for it. I mean, just don't make us think too hard.
Starting point is 00:40:15 And I love the white rabbit going on in the background and the whole play on that thing, which totally makes sense. It's very cool. Yeah, man, I'm super excited for this one. No Hugo weaving as Agent Smith. We'll be okay. I'm going to be okay. Hey, how about Samara weaving? How is it? Agent Smith? Yeah, that
Starting point is 00:40:40 would be great lasting, right? Well, didn't they burn up his program or something in the last one? Oh, yeah, but we were also trying to figure out of fucking Neo died in the last one, so they just stuck you back in the Matrix. I don't think... Wasting a
Starting point is 00:40:58 body suit. I don't think Carrie Ann Moss that's her action. I don't think she's actually alive. I think She's just a program. Oh, that's cool. I got no problem with that if they write it well. I don't know. I think they may stick her in there with it.
Starting point is 00:41:15 Because why would they put that program? Unless it's the good guys throwing her in the program to remind him of who he is. I don't get to put her in that plastic suit she was wearing and put a machine gun in her hand. Yeah, I think, I think you guys just nailed it. I think that's what it's going to be. We don't need to watch it now. No, we'll watch it. We're going to watch it.
Starting point is 00:41:40 This is the first trailer I've seen that I've been really excited about in a long time. Yeah. Yeah, I have to agree with you. I'm pretty excited about Dune. HBO Max, dude. They're on their A game. Definitely. Yeah, but I mean, it sounds...
Starting point is 00:41:59 Oh, Cry Macho. I can't wait to see Cry Macho this weekend. Yeah, and I'm also waiting for... The Many Saints of Newark, because I'm big soprano. That's going out in an American episode, right? October 1st. That'll for sure be good. HBO Max.
Starting point is 00:42:16 You had me HBO. Another movie featuring Vera Formiga. She is a great actress. Brian, you can find her sex stage. Yeah. Yes, you're talking about that. That was her. All right.
Starting point is 00:42:31 Okay, I wasn't sure. But Dune, I feel like, has sort of. much potential to just crash hard. I know. I'm going to the theater for that one. Or it would really fucking suck. The casting is phenomenal in it.
Starting point is 00:42:51 I just reread the book, knowing who all the cast was going to be in the new movie, and I pictured them all when I was reading it, and it was like spot on. So do you think it's just going to be the super fans pissed off or everybody? I don't know. I'll be at the theater
Starting point is 00:43:07 I don't care of anybody else Should you guys rewatch that original one lately? No, we're going to. I don't think I've ever seen it. I've seen it so many times. I don't need to rewatch it, but yeah, I will rewatch it for when we do Dune. I'm down for a rewatch, for sure.
Starting point is 00:43:27 I'll watch it because I hated it that very first time I saw it. I love it. Paula Trades, the Quixack Satirac, the Super Being. right it was sold to me as star wars and that's not what i got so i was mad that man can kill with the word mm-hmm whenever that was 80-something when that one came out just a little kid and i was just this is fucking boring what the fuck's going on but when we we did the rewatch for uh espr refine that movie blew me away on how awesome it is yeah well nes they left they left big parts of the
Starting point is 00:44:03 book out, by the way. The cool thing about that, though, is that the new one, I think, is only going to be the first half of the book. Yeah. So, um, if they play their cards right. What's his name? Says he has the sequel ready to go if they greenlighted. Uh, they need to just go ahead and film it before
Starting point is 00:44:21 it bombs at the box office. But we're not getting the worms in this one? Huh? We're not getting the worms in this one? Yeah, we're getting them. Yeah. That's probably going to be toward the end. I'm guessing and him riding the worm will be toward the end of the this movie.
Starting point is 00:44:36 Yes. Yeah, so, I don't know. No sting, but I still see it. They should throw beetle juice in on the back. Oh, yeah, of course. Absolutely. In the background of one. Yes.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Hey, who did, who did Sting play in the first one? Do you remember? Was he like the, was he one of the bad guys? Yeah, he's one of the Harconans. Okay. or Fade or whatever his name was. Okay, all right. He was one of the buddies of that one fat dude that was floating around.
Starting point is 00:45:10 The Baron Harkonin. Yeah. Fade got a, his death scene wasn't too good for him. Well, isn't the Baron Harkonan and this new one going to be the father of fucking Pennywise in real life? Yeah, the flying Scarsguards? Yes. Scarsguard father? Yeah, the professor
Starting point is 00:45:35 from the first Thor movie. The war movie. Yes. He's responsible for all them. How many motherfuckers are there? A lot of them. I think there's like six or seven of them. Should we be fucking worried?
Starting point is 00:45:47 Is this like something that we should keep an eye on? God damn Scars guards? I don't know. We made it through the Baldwin, so. Yeah, I guess that's true. All right. The Matrix resurrection. December 20th.
Starting point is 00:46:00 seconds. That is it. All righty. Moving on to listener feedback. Did you just have two? I'm sorry. Yeah, go ahead. Did you just have two trailers? Yeah. Okay.
Starting point is 00:46:15 Is there another one that you saw that you want to bring up? No, I thought you had three. No. All right. All right. Well, this week our podcast spotlight shines on Not Your Final Girl. Ariel Dyer and Candace Sluder are not your final girls. Join us for bi-weekly and very charming chats about horror movies.
Starting point is 00:46:40 Look for it anywhere podcasts are found. All right, and we have a brand new five-stars Apple Podcast Review. Donnie from Brothers Grimm says, The Horror Returns and Delivers. Great podcasts for fans that love horror and dishing on horror. the whole crew is always down to give interesting perspectives and fresh takes on current and classic genre fair i recommend it to newbies and avid horror fans thank you for yeah um lance let's be clear i don't fucking know horror these guys know horror well there was a couple of listener feedback apparently none of us know which the the the purge one still gets me i don't know how we didn't know about the founding fathers what about them because we were asking
Starting point is 00:47:36 who started the purge the original bird oh yeah the whole founding fathers thing well because it's always just a background story and the I thought it was the proud I thought it was the proud boys man come on
Starting point is 00:47:48 but Lance I got something here from the action returns it was on Twitter that I wanted to run by how did you feel about the Picard show, Star Trek. I loved it. Okay. I'm gonna read this how it
Starting point is 00:48:05 is written out. This roboter Picard shit, who cares? Not Star Trek, not good sci-fi. Shit with a label is shit with a label. Fire Cutsman, isn't
Starting point is 00:48:22 his name, Kurtzman? Yeah, yeah. Okay. So, but it says Cutsman. The 25% franchise destroyer a franchise who loved generations which inspired scientists is nothing more than dump shit. RIP
Starting point is 00:48:38 Star Trek, so sad. Well, I've got one answer. I've got one answer to that. I've got a lot of hate. It's already been renewed for two more seasons, so, you know, we're all entitled to our own opinion, but obviously somebody
Starting point is 00:48:53 likes it. Well, apparently, uh, to, uh, I don't even know how to fucking say this Twitter handle, but according to him, it's dump shit. He'll killed the whole franchise. It's all good, man.
Starting point is 00:49:09 Everybody has their own opinion. They're entitled to it. And he must just be a super old-school trekkie. It's like, we don't want to see anything different than just fucking Captain Kirk talking to computers and talking them out of taking over the world and shit like that. Because that's all you got in the first series. Well, I imagine it's the same as like Star Wars. You know what I mean? Oh, true.
Starting point is 00:49:35 True. Just huge factions of people who hate the new Star Wars stuff. Although I hear it's getting retcon. So there's that. Last Jedi was bullshit. Here we go. Here we go. That's all I got.
Starting point is 00:49:55 That's all right. Thanks for the feedback. We like any feedback. Everybody's got their own opinion. personally I love Picard. I'm looking forward to the next two seasons and beyond. Wesley Crusher needs a show. Oh, hell yes.
Starting point is 00:50:09 He does. That would be awesome. I think it's just around the corner. It's got to happen, right? Will Whitton, if you listen, come on. He is listening. He's one of our biggest fans, dude. Come on.
Starting point is 00:50:22 I mean, he can't do the other one anymore, right? Not young Sheldon, but the... Big Ben. Yeah, he can't do Big Band. anymore so he's got to go somewhere right he was on young Sheldon the young Sheldon was watching the generations
Starting point is 00:50:39 I love it they show him and then he said something he goes it's weird though he goes Will Whitton is really my friend now right I love it we also got an email from hopefully a future guest says greetings
Starting point is 00:50:58 I hope this message finds you well. I've authored my first title, The Book of Top Ten Horror Lists, where 100 celebrities contributed their favorite top 10 horror theme lists. That sounds like he actually does know horror, unlike us. Yeah. I would love to send a proper press release about the book. If you're interested and hopefully be a guest on your show,
Starting point is 00:51:21 please get back to me. Thank you so much. You send a copy. Yeah. cheer and chills Charles, aka Cryptmaster Chucky. Well, Cryptmaster, we would like to have you on the show. That sounds awesome. We turned down nobody.
Starting point is 00:51:38 I have reached out, so we'll see how it goes. You've got to put up with our dumb asses. Anything about what? Celebrities, top ten movies or? Top ten horror, yeah. That'd be pretty cool. Lightning around everybody. What's your favorite?
Starting point is 00:51:57 Hurry. But favorite horror movie of all time? No, porn. Hurry. Oh, porn? Maybe he does Dallas. Hurry, hoarse. The exorcist, man.
Starting point is 00:52:07 Come on. Phil. Yeah, the exorcist, for sure. Easy. Right. The thing. And I like that. That's my number two.
Starting point is 00:52:17 Which one? What do you mean? Which one? Which one? The black and white one. The thing from another world. Come on. John Carpenter.
Starting point is 00:52:26 Yeah, because who directed that other one, the prequel? I don't know. It wasn't a terrible movie, but yeah, I like that. Anybody's number fucking one, dude. I liked it, but then when you find out that they were going to go practicals, and then they just, at the last minute, changed their mind. Yeah. Because they made stuff for that movie.
Starting point is 00:52:49 And then they were like, no, we are not going to use it. It would cost too much. But mine Friday 13, 1980. Nice. Okay. See, all classic ship. Maybe we do know our horror after all. There you go. We only know a couple movies that sound like. Well, the classics, man. Everybody's got to have a top ten. All right. Regarding Green Room and touring in a punk band, this one ought to be interesting.
Starting point is 00:53:22 Darren Wilson, our buddy, hooked this up with a lot of first-hand feedback. He says, just got to the actual question. in the episode. I'll add the best on-tour food from a venue. Not the killer home-cooked ones was in a club in Philadelphia. They gave us a pizza so big we ate it for three days. I'd have had that shit killed in one. Well, dude, man, that's you've got to eat very, very cautiously when you're on the road. Because you never know when your next meal might you have to dive into a dumpster for her, you know? Save that fucking pepperoni, you asshole.
Starting point is 00:54:00 Right. Definitely have had Nazi skinhead violence at shows, but never played shows run by Nazis. Well, that's a good thing. Definitely had a scary moment playing at a biker club party. Well, yeah, that makes sense. Definitely shown up on tour, to be told, all the bands dropped off the show. Okay. Selling shirts and other merch and general generosity.
Starting point is 00:54:27 of most of the local bands got us through when it was looking rough. I'm sure it's common in other scenes, but here, when it happened on tour, there was a commonplace thing that all of the local bands giving their cut to the touring band when the pay was particularly low. Hmm. Wow. That sounds pretty interesting. I'm amazed that that shit happens.
Starting point is 00:54:55 Yeah. I mean, hey, dude. The lower the pay, more people are going to be like, I want you fuck off That's That's the punk lifestyle Man
Starting point is 00:55:05 It's a brotherhood You know There you go Look out for each other All right Well Watch out for the skinheads The San Antonio bar
Starting point is 00:55:16 We walked it There's a very good possibility I may have been Just been paranoid No We both felt it Dude
Starting point is 00:55:26 They all were dressed like, like, like they were in, in, and, in, uh, what the, green room. Yeah, green room. Literally. Yeah, there's something, something's going on. I was like, wait, what the fuck is going on in here? There was something going on. I got a little scared for a minute.
Starting point is 00:55:48 All right. Regarding a picture of Eric Roberts with a gun to the head on our group page. What you say? Lyle Huckin says, a talking cat, two, I'll take the bullet. I don't know what that means. I don't know what that means either. I was hoping one of you would explain it. Nez?
Starting point is 00:56:10 I don't even know what you're talking about. All right. I didn't see it. All right, moving on. Apparently it was about a talking cat. Yeah, it's a new movie that Eric Roberts is going to be in that I think we're going to be getting a screener for, possibly, maybe. Oh, is that what that is? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:56:32 Oh, okay. And then the guy, he commented that, and I was like, what the fuck does that mean? Yeah, send it to us. We'll watch it. All right. Well, confusion gross. Regarding the just before dawn, Blue Ray, Anthony Boris says, I'm done. Tavares Ellis says Amari Hardwick and Loretta Devine.
Starting point is 00:56:58 killed it in the horror movie Spell. That was a pretty good one. Yeah? Yeah. Is that a 2020-21 movie? Last year. Okay. Where is it on?
Starting point is 00:57:11 Hulu. I think I've seen it on. Hulu and HBO Max fucking rule right now. Seriously. And Shutter's got some really good shit. Yeah, Shudder's a close third. I'm super impressed with those guys.
Starting point is 00:57:24 Like, if there's a fucking thing that I'm going to give my money to shutters it and HBO Max is totally worth it. We know it wasn't going to be Paramount Plus. Yeah, I think it's my ass.
Starting point is 00:57:40 The whole asshole. Pucker up, motherfucker. All right. This movie's the end result if misery and the skeleton key had a baby. Huh. Well, that's quite a stretch.
Starting point is 00:57:54 You got me, definitely got me interested now. I just like to see misery in the skeleton key have a baby. That would be a weird, scary way. I don't even remember what happened in the skeleton key. But now that I'm thinking about it, that is a good description of spell. Yeah? I'm going to check it out. And you say hello, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:58:18 I like the skeleton key. It got a lot of hate. Eh. Yeah. Oh, that's my one, what's your name? The skeleton. Spell. As Omari Hardwick, he's in that show power. Or was on that show power?
Starting point is 00:58:32 I don't know if it's still gone. On Stars. Kate Hudson was in the skeleton key. I remember that. And Peter Sarzgard. Not to be confused with Scarsguard. God damn it, there's another one. They're fucking multiplying.
Starting point is 00:58:49 This one's a SARS guard, though. Suddenly ended up with an extra kid, and his last name is Scarsguard. Boy. Anyway, it says very, very good movie, so check out Spill. Regarding malignant, hey, Mike Morin says, It's time! Warren Minnick says this film is wild. That it is.
Starting point is 00:59:21 That's the best description that I've heard so far. Marcy Pupandria says perhaps one of the most emotional I've been on a podcast ever. We take a deep dive into the adaptations of my favorite film and of all time stand by me. Great movie. The classic Misery and More Kathy Bates with Dolores Claiborne. I've never seen that. I haven't either. You never seen it?
Starting point is 00:59:49 Great book. Good movie too. Oh, that's good. Oh, okay. Check that out. I mean, Kathy Bates is always awesome. Before watching a messed up her face, Jennifer Jason Lee.
Starting point is 01:00:02 Right, right. I thought you were going to say Meg Ryan. There's so many people that have fucked up their face. Jennifer Jason Lee, if you're listening, I love you to death, but you look better. You should have just left it alone. You got that plastic surgery on your face shit is not there yet. Quit doing it.
Starting point is 01:00:20 You look like a giant G.I. Joe doll. She's on that show atypical. And my wife goes, I can't look at her. I'm like, well, I don't know what to tell you. What a shame, man. I still would say. She says, join me, Bede, and Sam Inglis for an episode that sees us agreeing on more than maybe we ever have. Okay.
Starting point is 01:00:52 Click the link below, which you don't have because we're talking. Or find us on all major podcast streaming platforms. Stephen T. Bolt says Dolores Claiborne and Gerald's game would have been a good double. Yeah. That makes sense. What's one's Gerald's game? Uh, the Carla Gugino. She gets tied up to a bed.
Starting point is 01:01:15 Yeah. Oh, it's not, what was the one when they were in the cornfield? In the tall grass In the tall grass Oh yeah Fell sleeve Yeah It wasn't that bad
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Starting point is 01:02:18 got you, okay? Speaking of commentaries do, Brian, Lonnie is starting to tell me he's getting anxious, man. Yeah, I don't know how I feel about this Lonnie guy. Tell that guy that both fuck himself.
Starting point is 01:02:34 For what movie? Some singing and dancing movie, probably. You ever seen The Forbidden Zone? Fucking Charlie Chaplin, some shit. No, it's the Forbidden Zone. by the famous Richard Elfman Brother to Danny
Starting point is 01:02:53 With Frank Drebbin I think so man I don't know dude you've got to check it out tattoo is in it from the original tattoo from the real fantasy island is in it the real tattoo
Starting point is 01:03:11 was there a tattoo in that remake whatever that was Yeah, the Asian dude at the end, he revealed he has a tattoo that says tattoo. Oh, yeah. That's not the same thing. That's not the same thing. Get the fuck out of here. That's not tattoo.
Starting point is 01:03:31 That's a piece. I'm tattoo too. All right. That was bad. On to our featured attractions. This week, the James. Juan directed malignant. Yes.
Starting point is 01:03:50 Also, we get back to 1982 for Dario Argento's I don't even know how to say the fucking word of this. Tenibre. Tenibre. Tenebri. All right. So we're going to start out with Tenibre. An American writer in Rome
Starting point is 01:04:06 is stalked and harassed by a serial killer who is murdering everyone associated with his work on his latest book. Director and writer is, of course, Dario Argento, also known for Deep Red, Dracula 3D, and many, many other things. In Germany, this film is still banned after 25 years. What? Maybe then it was something we don't.
Starting point is 01:04:32 That doesn't even make any sense anymore at this point. Yeah, it's silly. You see worse than that in fucking commercials for kid shows. I know. The trailies or commercially you sent to. was kind of frightening. A little fucking toy robot. That moxie thing?
Starting point is 01:04:52 Have you guys seen the fucking commercial for this thing? Yeah, I watched it when you sent. Man, I would tell my kid to get the fuck up and go make some friends. Stop fucking talking to this damn robot. It's an AI robot for your kids that is like legit AI and talks to them. It's the beginning of Chucky, for sure. Our mission today is we're going to tell our friends how. how we feel.
Starting point is 01:05:19 Freeping it's shit, man. And the parents are just standing there just kind of like, oh, this is nice. No, I'm looking at the fucking commercial and go, just look it up on YouTube. Moxie AI or something. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:05:35 Moxie commercial. Yeah, Lance just replaced the, the Chucky body with just kind of like a toy robot body. Same fucking thing. Which almost makes it creepier. And it looks like the beginning to a horror movie, but it's a real fucking thing. Like Teddy Ruxman or what?
Starting point is 01:05:56 Well, at least you could say Teddy is, I guess, cute looking before he kills you. Until you put a Nazi tape in that bitch, then it sounds awesome. No, this thing is legitimately scary. Also very cool. So, yeah? You know what's going to be the end? What's that? You take the Moxie.
Starting point is 01:06:23 That's what it's called, right, moxie. Yeah. You take that robot and then you apply, what's his name's technology to it? Chucky? No, the Tesla guy. Oh, no. Elon Musk. That'll be the end of us.
Starting point is 01:06:39 There's some sort of AI robot dog that you can buy, too. I went off the deep end of stuff. Yeah, when I hear that. picture black mirror that episode. Well, this one is a little bit cute at least. Although they do have some scary looking like, you know, murder robots
Starting point is 01:06:56 that's in there somewhere. But like there's a pretty cute looking little robot dog that is just straight AI. That's how they trick you though. This stuff is, this stuff is coming faster than we fucking may think it is. It's like, uh...
Starting point is 01:07:14 I don't think we're ready for it, man. That will. Smith movie with I Robot. I love that. We're not. Elon Musk is also trying to train fucking monkeys to play chess, planet of apes. Permanator. I am watching
Starting point is 01:07:28 the new documentary on Netflix that he's in where he's sending four like regular people to space. You guys heard about this yet? Yeah, and then it comes back like that movie species where they bring an alien back. Damn it, Elon. I think it's the end game.
Starting point is 01:07:45 It's going to be Awesome. Whatever it is, I'm on board, man. Let's do this shit. He's got to cause a combination of species, the planet of the apes, and Terminator. All it was. Roll the dice and jump in, man. There's no fucking stopping it now. Not a single one of these four people that he's sending up to space or astronauts. Oh, even better. They just like won a lottery to go up there.
Starting point is 01:08:10 And never come back. Oh, a beautiful roller costa. Ha ha ha. He should be fun. All right. All right. So still bad to Germany. Christopher Walken was considered for the lead role in this movie. Huh. Might have been better.
Starting point is 01:08:28 For the author? Yeah, I think so. How different would that have been? Pretty different, man. I don't know. Picked in my mind. Nicholas Cage. Nicholas Cage.
Starting point is 01:08:45 Book. that I wrote. I can't even do it with that left. All right. I'm sorry. That's great, man. That's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:08:55 It wasn't. I'll stop. I'm going to need more whiskey. All right. Brian, what did you think about Tenebrae? I'm not real versed in the jalo's. Jallos or how we pronounce it.
Starting point is 01:09:09 As you can tell, I don't know how to pronounce it correctly. But I'm starting to try to get into and for the most part I kind of enjoyed this one it was different than anything I really watched the acting was okay
Starting point is 01:09:28 but what really kind of sealed it for me was some of the kills because they were especially when you get to the the kills with the acts were really fucking violent and they were kind of they were going for it too like I kind of appreciated that And the music kind of, I don't know, at first took me out of it because it didn't seem to fit the movie.
Starting point is 01:09:56 But after a while, I kind of got used to it, which I'll bring up in Tenebra, or not Tenebra, malignant. Okay. It was good to see John Saxon in there, rest in peace. I wish he kind of had a bigger role in it, but he didn't. the women were beautiful uh... Lance insert stupid people sounded right here
Starting point is 01:10:22 if a fucking dog is fucking barking at you viciously don't pick up a stick and try to jab at the fence you have fucking idiot AJ said the same exact thing when we were watching it like what the fuck is she doing?
Starting point is 01:10:38 I didn't feel bad for when that dog climbed that fence and jumped over I was like that's what you fucking get you want to antagonize me motherfucker and that dog was determined too to get her
Starting point is 01:10:50 oh shit except that when he was attacking you could tell that he was just kind of jumping up and playing yeah I'll just softly put my mouth on you
Starting point is 01:11:00 but overall I enjoyed the story I kind of figured out the end of it before it happened which I don't usually do that that quickly.
Starting point is 01:11:14 So that was, I guess, kind of a not a good thing for the movie for me to figure it out because I don't usually, I'm not AJ. I don't usually just figure out.
Starting point is 01:11:25 Yes, exactly. Yeah. But overall, I think after watching this, I'm going to start kind of dipping in the Jallo films a little bit more.
Starting point is 01:11:35 I had some fun with this one. Yeah. I didn't hate it. And the blood was bright red. No, that's Jallo. What the Jello pudding? Jellup pudding. Lance, what did you think about it?
Starting point is 01:11:56 Oh, man, so this is Jallo, huh? Yeah. Ah, don't act like you don't know. Real, real quick. Real quick, Jalo is an Italian term designating mystery, fiction, and thrillers. The word Jalo is Italian for yellow. The term derives from a series of cheap paperback mystery and crime thriller novels in yellow covers that are popular in Italy. Okay, so like murder mystery.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Yeah. I gotcha. That makes sense. Kind of like Stephen King does his like hard case series of books. Yeah. It's more of a crime story, I guess. So this is Jalho. You know, something I'm kind of,
Starting point is 01:12:42 as you said, Brian, we're dipping our toe into it here. You said you're going to go into the pool. I'm going to, I'm going to jump out of the pool and run over toward the hot tub as quick as I can because this is not my cup of tea at all. Too fucking cold. Did not, yeah, did not care for this in the least. I thought that the acting was incredibly subpar. There were times when I couldn't even figure out, I honestly thought, are they like speaking in Italian? this is dubbed, but then, you know, you look at the lips and see that, no, they're actually
Starting point is 01:13:17 speaking in English. I thought that, um, well, it sounds, it sounds dubbed, but then. It sounds dubbed. John Saxon sounds, Italian. John Saxon looks dubbed, but it's his voice. Right. Well, John Saxon is criminally underused in this movie. Um, you know, I mean, are, are there.
Starting point is 01:13:36 I think some of them are, some of them are speaking English and some of them are speaking Italian. I think you're right. No, I think that's quite possible. And anytime they opened a book or something, I noticed the, you know, the words were in Italian, but I don't know, man, this, to me, this was just a big, just a big flop. Didn't really care for a thing about it.
Starting point is 01:13:57 I mean, as you were saying, the women are beautiful. Yes. There is no doubt that, and I'm sure that that's part of what this whole movement is, right? You know, women in peril and, you know, it just seemed like all the women were really just like there to be looked at they were just victim I ain't gonna lie I appreciate it like some of them not knowing how to wear a towel
Starting point is 01:14:25 that is very true or you know a bra completely objectively objectified I thought to the point where like this is just fucking silly you know and I don't know if it's the Italian culture or you know the European culture or whatever, and the fact that this was made in, what, 82, which was a long time ago.
Starting point is 01:14:45 I mean, for fuck's sake, there were people smoking in hospitals and airports and shit like that in the movie. So you could tell it was made quite a while ago, but, um, have a thing to smoke around my newborn child. I was, I was completely unimpressed with this. I was, I was expecting that I was really going to enjoy it, um, because I've always heard of Jallo movies and God, God bless our, friends at the horror mafia, Don
Starting point is 01:15:11 loves these kind of movies and several other people do and there's, I mean, it's a big subculture, man. There's a lot of people that just really love these, but not my cup of tea, man. Just not, not something that that I really enjoyed and I just kind of
Starting point is 01:15:28 would, hour and 40 minutes, to me, it felt like it was two and a half hours, like it was just never going to end. And you get that goofy fucking blonde kid that looked like he was like, you know, one one of the guys walking around in a caddy shack or something like that. I have a question about that guy.
Starting point is 01:15:45 I got a lot of questions about that guy. Was he the one of the motorcycle that just dropped her off in the middle of fucking nowhere? Yeah, he was. That guy that didn't even fucking answer her when she was like, what are you doing? Yeah. Like, what happened there? Yeah, I found this to be super weak. I don't know if Dario Gento has done a lot better movies than this,
Starting point is 01:16:07 or movies that I would like more than this one. one, maybe I was just, maybe I just wasn't in the mood for this. I wanted to get on to the main event, I guess, but not my cup of the... Saria did Susperia. Yeah. I love Susperia.
Starting point is 01:16:24 You know, that was a great movie. So I'll give it a chance. I'll, I'll check out some more Argento movies, but this one, to me, just didn't do it. What's her name?
Starting point is 01:16:39 His daughter? Asia? Yeah. The one that, allegedly, she's a rapist, right? Allegedly. Huh? I know.
Starting point is 01:16:53 That's what I thought, too. From what I understand, she didn't know. Who did she rape? Was it a man? She didn't rape. A young, they were, they were, he was young. Yeah. I can get a look out of here with that.
Starting point is 01:17:09 Let's live in reality, okay? Okay. This movie This movie reminded me of all the worst parts of a porno. It was acted like a porno. It was filmed like a porno. It was set up like a porno.
Starting point is 01:17:22 Every single scene looked like you were about to get a big payoff in a porno. I don't hear anything bad about that. But there was no hardcore sex. Yeah. Then we wouldn't be reviewing it then. It would be a porno. Don't totally disagree with you.
Starting point is 01:17:39 Yeah, not because... I mean, when... The chick was on the beach and like four guys stood around her like she was at cock level. I was really wondering, where's this going? Well, it was going to go somewhere, but that guy came up and slapped the shit out of her. Right. It went from a porno to a snuff film. And then she told her boys to get them.
Starting point is 01:18:03 And they did. Oh, yeah, yeah. Because she was touching their weeners. Yeah, man, I kind of agree with you on that. This one sort of lost me about three quarters of the way through. Like, I'm trying to stick with it, man. And I think that there's something there. I kind of want to rewatch it.
Starting point is 01:18:27 You just kind of have to be in the mood for that Gialo thing. And I'm going to be honest with you, when we were doing Gialo Week or whatever, and I was watching just looking at, I don't think I'd seen any actual previews to malignant. I just saw the poster and that it was like a Gialo and I'm like oh man, I don't know
Starting point is 01:18:51 if I want to do this this week. And so Tenebrae Tenebray built into that and it was not great. It's does seven count is a Gialo? I don't know what counts this.
Starting point is 01:19:08 I mean, if we're going to go with that? I don't know. Well, we don't know Jallo's. Yeah. David Fentcher's kind of in a class by himself, frankly. Seems pretty horror, murder, thriller, but with like... I guess so. But with, like, more horror and bright red blood is the only thing that I ever equate to Jello. It wasn't a terrible movie.
Starting point is 01:19:33 I mean, there were beautiful women to look at, however, they were obviously objectified, although it was 1982, so different strokes for different folks, different times. I thought it was just kind of okay. I sort of crashed at the end of it. I'm not sure what happened to be honest with you. This one, it didn't really grab me. You missed the big orgy at the swimming pool, huh? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:05 Well, and I, you know, I wouldn't. doubt that that shit would happen because some of the other scenes, they're so fucking off the wall and weird. Like it's, it's like baby A-24, you know? Yeah, I guess. I guess.
Starting point is 01:20:25 I just got so mad that John Saxon was so, again, criminally underused. Yeah. He said that had a much bigger role. So he should have did more than show that his hat wouldn't come off his head. Exactly. It was a cool hat. Look what I can do is my head.
Starting point is 01:20:41 My hat won't come off. Aye. Boy. Last time I saw this was in 1982, and I didn't rewatch it, so. But I don't remember any of it at all. You don't remember 40 fucking years ago? No. I only sit at the one time.
Starting point is 01:21:03 Was that 40 years ago? Holy shit. We're getting fucking old. I'll be 50 on Friday. Oh, man, congratulations. This film came out the year I was born. I was kicking out, too. But, yeah, I don't remember this movie at all.
Starting point is 01:21:22 I do like the Jalo films. Yeah? The shows, the Bavas, and all the other dudes that make these crazy bright red blood films. But I'll definitely rewatch it again. Yeah, again, I don't remember. I totally forgot John Sacks. was in it. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:21:43 I don't remember it at all. So I can't give you much of a review of it. But I'll check it out. Yeah. He didn't really do much except look pretty cool with that. All right. Scores, Brian. Give it a seven.
Starting point is 01:22:01 Wow. I said, I just had fun with, I'm into the murder mysteries. I had fun with it. some of the kills were pretty good goodish my favorite's the one with the axe where the chick's sitting there and then he just bust through the window and chops
Starting point is 01:22:22 her arm off but there was an axe kill where he like literally slices into the stomach and it just like oh yeah bounces off I mean I don't know I just I had fun with it. Maybe I was just in a good mood when I watched it.
Starting point is 01:22:40 Yeah. That's always a good thing. Yeah. Tadabray. Seven. All right. Seven. Wow. That's more than more expected. Lance? I'm going to go two on this one. That hurts. This is rough, man. I had trouble getting through it, man. I got to be honest with you. And it didn't help that it kept teasing me. And I really thought I'd stumbled upon
Starting point is 01:23:05 U-Porn and AJ was in there watching it with me so I thought I'm gonna get lucky because I know where this scene's going and then it didn't go there and it was like wow wow the one in the towel
Starting point is 01:23:22 was pretty fucking amazing though oh man I didn't get her whole story that was the problem dude none of it made sense to me man and then as soon as she died they showed the hook and I was like, is that not the same girl?
Starting point is 01:23:38 Well, I didn't understand her and the roommate. Yeah. Because it's clearly she seemed like she was a working girl. But then when she got home and her, I guess, friend or roommate was done, all of a sudden, it was like, you fucking whore. I was like, didn't you know that from the beginning? Yeah, exactly. That is exactly what I am. Thank you.
Starting point is 01:24:02 I like how she was listening to the music of the movie on her record player Yeah The film video game music It sounded like a boss fight and Mega Man Yeah right Maybe that's what kept me going through the movie Every time they played that music I was kind of I was motivated
Starting point is 01:24:24 I thought you were going to have a rocky montage huh Well we did get that music playing when he was riding his bike to the airport This montage is way too long. We got to hurry it up. Did he valet his bike? Did he valet his bike or something? I guess, but how did you get this to seven, dude? Even you're shitting all over it.
Starting point is 01:24:52 Because I had fun with it. Wow. It was a little wild. Wait till we watched the Forbidden Zone. And there were lots of boobies. You're going to love Forbidden Zone. Oh, yeah. was a lot of
Starting point is 01:25:04 booms in this one. And they were and they look natural boobies. Uh huh? Yep. Yep. I mean, 82. Yeah. Hey. Cream of the crop. Oh, that's what my wife said. My wife in the one scene she said, wow, she has really nice breast. And I said, yes, she does.
Starting point is 01:25:24 I think we all agree. I agree with you. All right. I'm going to give it a I can't give it more than a five I can't give it more than a five That's fair Citterous man
Starting point is 01:25:40 Yeah No well just because I fell asleep at the end However The boobies kept me interested So there's that Um I mean That dog chase scene you had to admit
Starting point is 01:25:54 It was kind of fucking hilarious It was got funny It was okay And it leads me into another story I got bit by a fucking big-ass pit bull this week. Yeah. He just nipped my finger. Did it happen when the dog was on the other side of the fence and you picked up a stick and started jabbing it?
Starting point is 01:26:12 No, I had been trying to be his friend all fucking day. And he was a whole lot of bark and no bite. He was just a big, he was a giant puppy. But he looked like the dog from John Wick. Right. But he wasn't as nice as the dog from John Wick. Obviously not. He kept barking at.
Starting point is 01:26:32 Hope you didn't kill the dog when he'd get you, Phil. Geez. No, I was super, I was chill with him. I actually had him where I could pet him there for a minute. And then every time I walked back in the fucking room, he forgot who I was. I'm like, this dog is mentally challenged. That's your problem. That happens.
Starting point is 01:26:51 That happens. And he just jumped up and nipped my finger when I was in the middle of talking to his mama. And that's the only time that he got upset, as if his mom was in the room. Understandable. Yeah. If she's not in the room and it's just me and him, he was fine. Didn't bark, nothing. So as mama walks in, now we have a problem.
Starting point is 01:27:18 And it was just a nip. Like, didn't, didn't like part of stitches or anything like that. No, no, no. It broke the skin, but just barely. And it was just in my finger. It wasn't like a big deal. But giant pit bull, giant pit bull baby. It's probably playing with you, really.
Starting point is 01:27:39 No, he was mad. He just, he caught me while I wasn't looking at him. Son of a bitch. But then I had another one the week before. Dogs are not that fucking hard to handle. I had a giant pit bull run down the, because I walked into this guy's gate and he lives on stilts, right? I guess he didn't realize that I was going to be there when I got there. So I walked in the gate downstairs, close it behind me.
Starting point is 01:28:08 Giant Pitbull comes charging down the stairs and barking, and this was not a puppy. And he meant fucking business. So I put my hand on his head to make sure he couldn't fucking bite me. And by the end of that, we were super cool. Just for the listeners, you said you were on stilts? A house on stilts. Oh, I thought you said, you were on the beach, Brian. Not like a clown like a clown.
Starting point is 01:28:40 Okay. I walk around like that sometimes, you know. I just wanted to clarify. No, no. Yeah, I live on the beach. A lot of the houses are on stilts, which is why the people are bad here. But not you. No, not on stilts.
Starting point is 01:28:55 I don't do stilts. I am a dog person, though, so that worked out. That was a long story to say that this movie is a five. There you go. Kevin? I think Kevin will be back. Oh, no, Kevin left. He was here, and then he was God.
Starting point is 01:29:14 Oh, well. All right. Well, let's move on to malignant then. This one ought to be interesting. Madison is paralyzed by shocking visions of grizzly murders. and her torment worsens as she discovers that these waking dreams are in fact terrifying realities. Directors James Wan, also known for The Conjuring and Saw and producing a bunch of bullshit. Writers are James Juan, Ingrid Bisu, and Akela Cooper.
Starting point is 01:29:51 And on October 24, 2019, James Wan clarified that this film is not based on his graphic. novel, Malignant Man. Well, that's good because that's the first thing that came to my head. It wasn't. It's definitely not a superhero film. Malignant is an original filler not based off any existing IP. Although, it could be. Malignant was originally scheduled to be released in the United States on August 14th, 2020,
Starting point is 01:30:23 by Warner Brothers. But due to COVID-19, the film was removed from the release schedule in March 2020. All right. So, Brian, start us out on Malignant. Okay. This movie was well-acted. It looked great.
Starting point is 01:30:43 I thought, I thought, for what it was, I wasn't expecting Oscar nominations and acting. It looked great. The atmosphere was right, especially shots of the house. outside in the fog I kind of added to the move but I'll have to admit through the first two acts I was fucking completely bored
Starting point is 01:31:07 with this movie I thought it was nothing new nothing I haven't seen but when that third act hit man was I all aboard that third act saved this movie for me
Starting point is 01:31:23 it turned into I think me and Ness were talking about it before like a horror action fucking I don't know what the fuck was going on and then the reveal of what was going on
Starting point is 01:31:39 I like that I like the look of it don't want to spoil it but yeah like I said I just thought this was another fucking James Juan kind of haunted
Starting point is 01:31:51 supernatural movie and I was kind of over it but when when that segment happened I was just like this is this is what I wanted this is this is what I needed to see just fucking off the wall crazy shit but I do have some questions when we get into spoilers there's some things that I didn't quite understand that maybe you guys caught or can explain but overall we can't talk about for sure yeah overall it was a decent movie that became a great third act for me not I think that's a pretty good statement. I like that. What did you think? You asking NAS? Lance.
Starting point is 01:32:36 Uh, and NAS, you still with us? Yeah, Mayor. Oh, Lance is that. All right, Lance, uh, Nez, real quick. What's your score for, uh, oh, well, you shit, you haven't seen it in fucking 40 years. Never mind. What'd you, what'd you think of malignant, Nas? Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:32:54 Yeah, I'm with you, Brian. I was like, me and my son sat there and we were watching it at home. And James Juan, yeah, he was hitting it out of the park in the beginning. Did he hit it out of the park with that Fast and Furious movie? No. Did he hit it out of the park with Aquaman? It was all right. I mean, I did.
Starting point is 01:33:16 It was a triple. It wasn't a home run. Yeah, it was. And everything that, just because. his name is attached to something, isn't going to make it great. Right. Because the movies, his conjuring stuff that he didn't direct that he just produced, it was... Sure, sure.
Starting point is 01:33:35 Okay. Garbage, garbage, garbage. That's the shit that pisses me off. So I was just kind of like, okay, I'll just take it for what it is. And yeah, it started out. All right, this is just another scary ghost story. And I like those type of stories. And I know he can tell those stories.
Starting point is 01:33:55 story is good. I was just hoping that he can do something that he hasn't done yet with this ghost story. So I was all in. I jumped a few times sitting there watching it and I mean, I was in with the character and the dread of it all. But when
Starting point is 01:34:11 that shit started at the end or close to the end, I was like, what the fuck is going on? It got fucking wild, didn't it? Oh my God. I mean, I was in from the beginning. I didn't get bored at all. I was right in there.
Starting point is 01:34:27 I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't staring at my phone or anything. I was, I was in. So, but I just thought, uh, the payout was, was fucking awesome. And I, I, I fucking loved this movie. I thought it was hell of good. So, I was all about it. I knew it was coming, Philip. I knew it was coming.
Starting point is 01:34:47 Yeah. I knew a lot of people, a lot of people online were like, ah, movies dumb and stupid. And I didn't like the end. Why did he do? that and I was like man fuck you give me more of that he definitely tried something different right
Starting point is 01:35:02 you got to admit well well I'll get to it in mind Lance what do you think man I'm a little bit torn on this one because when I saw like probably the first you know 20 minutes or so and I was like okay so this is what we're doing
Starting point is 01:35:22 we're actually we got James Wine, behind the camera again. We've got an absolutely gorgeously filmed movie. Almost a technically perfect film. As far as the precision, the way that the scenes are filmed, I love the special effects, and this is not a spoiler because it's in the trailer,
Starting point is 01:35:43 but like when the reality started shifting and like, you know, wobbling, kind of like, I don't know how you to describe it. Helting. Kind of like an acid trip. Yeah, it was. It was like the walls would melt away. Absolutely.
Starting point is 01:35:58 And I thought that was just amazingly done. The way that they filmed the outsides of the building, the way that he built the, you know, he built up the suspense in this movie by showing like the fog in the background, and you've got the asylum or whatever, the laboratory at the beginning of the way that was filmed. And then you got the house, which obviously looks like your common haunted house.
Starting point is 01:36:25 house. And then you got this you know, this lady who's trapped, very much trapped in a relationship that she can't get out of. Plus, she's pregnant on top of everything else. Spoiler. And then, no, that's not
Starting point is 01:36:41 a story. Wasn't that in the trailer? I don't know. It was in the very beginning of the movie. It was a joke. Don't go too far with it. Yeah. It didn't ruin the movie. You got to be really careful, because this this movie takes like three or four left turns and then a right turn and then
Starting point is 01:36:58 two left turns and then seven right turns and then goes and then hits that motherfucker into left field dude it's it it's crazy and he's done some stuff in this movie that I've never seen done before and that's that's hard to do these days with as many horror movies as there are so uh Brian nailed it when he said the first two acts were kind of like a you know like a gothic um traditional horror movie and then the third act just went bat shit crazy. It's probably going to end up in my top 10. It probably is, if nothing else,
Starting point is 01:37:32 just the way that it was filmed. I do have some serious problems and some serious questions about that third act, but that being said, for him to accomplish what he was going to accomplish and literally do something no horror film has ever done before that I've seen anyway,
Starting point is 01:37:52 it's worth it to have. have a few things kind of open-ended for me and not totally explained. So this was a good time at the movies for me, man. And I really wanted to go to the movie theater to see it. I had way too much going on, having just come back from being out of town for a week and a half, so I didn't get the chance. But, man, I'm telling you, dude, that HBO Max, man, they are hitting it out of the park. Yep.
Starting point is 01:38:17 And this was definitely a 4K because it was beautiful to watch this thing, man. It just almost felt like stuff was jumping out at the screen when I was watching it. And I thought all of the acting was fine. I didn't think there was any real, you know, standout, you know, outstanding. Well, you know, hey, this person's going to get an Oscar or whatever. But everybody did their part. Nope, nobody dropped the ball. And...
Starting point is 01:38:45 Spoiler alert, there will be no Oscar nods for this movie. Especially not for acting. I mean, maybe for set design or some shit like that. But you know what? They did okay. They did their job. They punched... You know what? I'll equate it to you.
Starting point is 01:39:00 The actors in this movie walked in. They punched the clock. They put in their good eight hours. And then they punched their clock. It went home. And that was sort of the style of the movie was the little... Like, the acting wasn't fucking great. It was kind of silly most of the time.
Starting point is 01:39:17 But that's sort of the style that he had going. It was on purpose. I just think that it was... It was a visual masterpiece. I think the sound mixing and the sound editing was phenomenal. I think some of the dialogue was on purpose, though, because some of it was cheesy. I can see that. Yeah, some of it was really fucking stupid cheesy.
Starting point is 01:39:38 Not the room stupid. Not that bad. No, no, no. No. I liked it. It's going to be up there. It's going to be a top ten, a lower top ten or an honorable mention. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:39:50 He knew what he was going to make. So, I mean, like with the dialogue and everything. So he probably told him, look, this is what we're doing. This is how I want you to say your dialogue. So that's how I took it all. I mean, I especially like the actress that was written for Wanda Sykes. I mean, I took it. I mean, the cinematography, the thing that I loved was all the upper.
Starting point is 01:40:22 camera shot going down. Oh, great at that, isn't he? Yeah. Oh, my God. That was awesome. I loved how he did. Nez, it's not the same. I looked it up. It's not the same cinematographer who did The Conjuring 1 and 2, but there were a lot of the same types of
Starting point is 01:40:38 shots in it. So I think James Wan kind of took over on some of that stuff. Oh, yeah. Dude, like, cinematography wise, this is the best thing that he's done. It was fucking amazing. Like, some of the, some of the shots were you like, spun, the camera out and stuff like that,
Starting point is 01:40:55 like, it was just, it was visually very fucking appealing. This was a great movie cinematography-wise. I mean, I thought a shot. This isn't a spoiler. This was in a trailer. That scene when the dude, her boyfriend, when he
Starting point is 01:41:12 goes into the, he was in the kitchen and he hears something, and then when he comes back into the living room and that thing or whatever is sitting there or standing there, by the TV. I love how his camera work, how it swung. It was like a wide shot.
Starting point is 01:41:28 And down the hall, and you were in the living room, seeing that guy or whatever it was sitting there. And then when the lights came on, it was gone. I like those type of stuff. So when it was doing all that, I was like,
Starting point is 01:41:42 okay, he's just giving us another ghost story. And I loved how he filmed that. I thought it was good. He's got a good vision for what he has done so far. I really loved when the rooms, obviously, whoever the actor was
Starting point is 01:41:59 was sitting in a green screen or something and they added the press. I liked that. I think that was a... I took that as just like kind of like a mind fuck. Yeah. Are you really in this room or what?
Starting point is 01:42:16 Because it seemed like every time that happened, they show this some trailer. when they show it and it's like she's she's there but then she's not there yes yes yes yes uh act with or um can't deal with whoever else is in in the scene so i thought that was cool so i know it was i had to do something uh with her mind and everything so i loved all that um the jump scares there wasn't a lot but the little ones that they did have in there uh were cool i mean the one that got me it's not really that big of a scare,
Starting point is 01:42:53 but when she was upstairs in a room and she was like looking in the mirror, I was waiting for something to happen. And when she starts to walk and her friends looking in the window, because she was doing that part, I think I jumped the most during that. I wasn't ready for it.
Starting point is 01:43:08 I was looking more at the mirror. But I thought everything in this was awesome. I mean, the special effects, the practical effects, were awesome. The sound was good. Cinematography. The score, I loved what was going on. I mean, he really knows what he's doing, and whoever scored the film with him, did an amazing job because I watched it twice, and I loved how the back score fit in with what was being shown on the screen. So,
Starting point is 01:43:42 I just thought this movie was just badass from beginning to end. yeah right on man like technically speaking it was like a master class in filmmaking right yeah yeah so we might have lost
Starting point is 01:44:00 we might have lost Philip because he's got a literally the hurricane is now is just now hitting I'm looking on the map it's hitting his house literally he's on the edge of the hurricane everybody else has talked about
Starting point is 01:44:17 Phillip? I think he talked about it. Did he? Yeah. You want to wait for him or should we, should we dive into scores or do a quick little, who scores? Okay. You'll do a five minute break and see if he comes back or what?
Starting point is 01:44:37 I don't know. I don't have fun. All right. Let's just jump into scores. All right. We can splice it together. I don't know. who went first?
Starting point is 01:44:52 I think for me, I agree with everything you guys said as far as cinematography and score and everything, special effects, practical effects. But if it wasn't for that final third
Starting point is 01:45:09 act, this would have just been a run-of-the-mill James Wan movie. Just because that third act, I'm going to give it an eight That's a good score man Yeah Sounds like a possible Top 10 contender, huh?
Starting point is 01:45:31 Yeah, I mean, we'll see We got a, like we talked about news We got a lot coming out next month So Nez, are you giving it a 10? Oh, you know it Bad ass It's all the way 10
Starting point is 01:45:47 I loved it Oh man, I got to go 7.7.7 five. It's going to brush the top ten. Man, some stuff that we'll talk about on spoilers took me out of it
Starting point is 01:46:03 at times, unfortunately, but as far as like building up the suspense, you know, building up the shots, the angles and stuff like that, you know, it's close to a ten. I mean, it's almost film-making perfection, but
Starting point is 01:46:19 the acting and the story count for a lot for me. So I'm going 7.75. So, you know, it'll be toward the bottom of my top 10 or absolutely definitely at least honorable mention. You back, Phil? I'm back.
Starting point is 01:46:38 All right. We've got a hurricane coming through. I know. We're going to try to power through this, man. So we all gave our scores except you. Yeah. So, yeah, let me talk about malignant for a second. I was trying to find a film to compare it to in the beginning,
Starting point is 01:46:57 and it just takes, you're right, so many left turns that it just goes completely off the fucking rails. Ghost talking to us. Do I? Hang on. Give me two seconds. Let me try to jump back in on the computer. Is it going to Nicholas talking to us or what?
Starting point is 01:47:19 All right. Hang on. Give me two seconds. Let me try to jump back on. When it took that turn. Oh, man. It took a turn, man. My son was all in.
Starting point is 01:47:31 He was like, what? Oh, I'm sure. Yeah. All right. I'm back on. Nice. You sound great, dude. All right, good, good, good.
Starting point is 01:47:39 Yeah, no, and I, and, like, I wanted to not like this movie. I don't know why. It was just the whole Jello theme. I was not excited about it. That's totally jello. And the gore. The gore in this movie was amazing, by the way. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:47:55 Like, I started watching it, and I kept trying to nitpick shit, and it just... Didn't work, did it? I mean, there was plenty of shit to nitpick, but at the end of the day, I was like, you know what? Throw the fucking papers out the window. This was a good fucking movie. Yeah. That's what it is. Right?
Starting point is 01:48:15 God damn good time, man. This thing was fucking wild. and it goes, every time you think they're going to do something, not only do they not do that, but they like take it ten steps above what you thought they were going to do. And it was like a whole bunch of different types of horror movies together, right? Yeah, it really was. It was like a body horror movie.
Starting point is 01:48:37 It was like a ghost story. It was like a demon movie. Like I wanted to throw out some movie. You know what? I'll wait until spoilers till we get to that piece. To throw out some of the names of the movies that I thought that maybe it was like, but it was always like, oh, it's this movie but like on crack or this movie but on acid. You know, there were so many different things that they did.
Starting point is 01:49:09 And I thought it was, James Wan has got a fucking handle on this shit. That guy makes some fucking movies. like whether or not their perfection you know it's not he's not Steven Spielberg but he can make a goddamn
Starting point is 01:49:27 entertaining movie and I was very impressed by this one and especially in the third act when it just went totally off the fucking rails and went fucking crazy
Starting point is 01:49:40 because a lot of the movie was silly but it still worked mm-hmm I was I just I had so much fun with it. It was really great. So I'm going to give this one.
Starting point is 01:49:53 I'm going to give this one a nine at least. Wow. Okay. It's going on somebody's list. I had a really fucking good time with this movie. And like, it's definitely going to end up on my top 10 list this year. I'm excited about the top and bottom 10 list this year. Yeah, it's starting to shape up for me too. Psycho Gorman ain't leaving the top 10, though.
Starting point is 01:50:16 No, no matter what else I see. For fucking sure. I've already got it written down. This one's in there, too. All right. You're sticking around for spoilers, Naz? Yeah. All right. Spoiler time.
Starting point is 01:50:29 This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right. So one of the movies that,
Starting point is 01:50:50 I wanted to say this is, are you guys still there? Yep. Okay, cool. One of the movies that I wanted to say this was like at first, um, was it was like, Drop dead Fred, but I'm crack.
Starting point is 01:51:02 Drop dead Fred? Yeah, because it was like an imaginary thing coming back, right? And I was like, oh, is that what we're doing here? And then no, and then it turns into like the darker half, you know?
Starting point is 01:51:17 Oh, okay. I can see that. Yeah? Yeah. And so, like, they did so many different things here to throw you off the trail of what was going to happen. And, uh, I was just, I was really happy with all of it, man. It was, uh, fucking bat shit crazy and very, very silly and stupid at some points, but it still worked. You know what I mean?
Starting point is 01:51:42 It was like Quentin Tarantino doing horror, but not quite. I thought it was just when I started getting all crazy and when you're seeing whatever it is, it kind of remind me of how Jigsaw looked with long hair and I was waiting for a pig snap to come out from behind that.
Starting point is 01:52:09 Oh, yeah. But my son was like, is it walking backwards? And I was like, what? And I had to rewind it for a minute. And I was like, I didn't catch that. all to begin. I didn't either. He's the one that
Starting point is 01:52:22 said he goes, is it walking backwards? And then I went, whoa, it is. So I don't know. I was thinking it was some kind of demon ghost or whatever that it was haunting her for whatever reason. Because it did start out like it was going to be like a haunting type of thing. Yes, it did. Yes, it was making the noise.
Starting point is 01:52:41 When the boyfriend was downstairs watching TV and the blender came on and then the TV was making noise and all this. I mean, even my son was like, he always says this when we watch these ghost story types of things. Why did they always stay? I don't know. I can't tell you why.
Starting point is 01:52:58 Because as soon as I were fucking walking and the blender's going, fuck that out of it. Yeah. When shit that doesn't make sense starts happening. Get the fuck out. Well, a blender coming on is that could just be a short, you know, like an electrical short. Like the blender was on and you didn't realize it. No. I mean, but it was like two months.
Starting point is 01:53:19 stuff in a row within a matter of minute. Within a minute. All right. It was happening. He didn't even like, it didn't even phase him. Like he was scared or thinking. He would just say, yeah, whatever. Turned it off.
Starting point is 01:53:32 And then something else happened. And then, all right, whatever. But when he went back in the living room and he saw it sitting there on the couch. And then when he turned the light on and it was gone, fuck that. I would have been out of there. Out of there. That's scared enough to jump in the car and drive away.
Starting point is 01:53:48 I have a problem with this scene. Why is that? It wasn't supernatural. No? I'm okay with that, though, because it did have a supernatural aspect. I know, but when we get to reveal at the end of what is going on, how did this scene play out like it was a ghost sitting there getting off the cushion? When I thought it was all in her head. That's the only reason I can.
Starting point is 01:54:18 I mean, but... Yeah, but she didn't see that. He did. The husband saw that. But did that really happen, though? Because she couldn't have done that. Well, that was part of my question, too, is, like, obviously when it was running away from the cop, which I don't know why it was running away. Right.
Starting point is 01:54:38 It was, like, you know, jumping down the firescape floor by floor, like some kind of parkour master. That was bad ass. And I was like, okay, well, obviously this thing is some kind of superhero sort of demon entity. Aquaman. And you know what? I mean, maybe it still was. But I think, again, though, the whole movie is a little bit silly. So if you really start asking questions and picking the threads at the seams, then I imagine.
Starting point is 01:55:18 it's going to come apart. Yeah, fair enough. But again, beautifully filmed. Fucking amazing. Some of those shots were things that I have never seen before. And like, credit to James Juan, where it's fucking due, man. He pulled that shit off.
Starting point is 01:55:41 It looked visually fucking... Because the dread of... I can't remember the young woman's name, but the dread of her going through all that. Madison? Yeah, of her having a miscarriage because she was, I guess she had like two or three miscarriages before that one. I mean, that was sad.
Starting point is 01:56:09 At that part, I was still thinking, is it some kind of supernatural ghost or whatever that's just haunting her since she was a kid? Because I've seen that they show in the trailer when she's at the birthday party and she's talking, what was it? Gabriel. Gabriel.
Starting point is 01:56:27 Yeah, Gabriel. Oh, no, he's right here and all that. See, I was thinking more of a ghost story. I mean, the trailer was, it was good, it was misleading, and didn't give you any idea of where it was going to go. Because I didn't, I didn't see that coming.
Starting point is 01:56:43 Yeah, I agree. So, I mean, because you're so convinced, okay, it's some kind of supernatural spirit or whatever. And all right, that's what we're going to go with and I'm just going to sit there and enjoy it. So that's how I was. But when it fucking took that turn, when you find out who Gabriel is, and it was actually kind of sad on who Gabriel was about her being born and basically
Starting point is 01:57:10 the two embryos growing together. Oh, man, that was, that was, that was pretty sad. Gabriel was like Danny DeVito. Yeah. Maybe it should have brought any of the point. It was like Quato from Toto Rico.
Starting point is 01:57:29 Yeah, I love the look of it, especially when it came out the back of her head at the end. Yes. That was gruesome, man. Yeah. And that was another part
Starting point is 01:57:43 where it got real silly is towards the end there where she started, it starts like walking backwards and killing everybody with no problems. Which was cool to watch, though. It was silly, but it was still to watch.
Starting point is 01:57:55 It was silly, but it worked. Yeah. But going back to her miscarriages, that was crazy to find out that she miscarried all them times because he was feeding off of them. Yeah. That's rough, man. That's rough. I like the practical effects of when you see him when he had arms.
Starting point is 01:58:16 Mm-hmm. I thought that was cool. I'm glad they didn't do the CG-I. route. I mean, they easily could have. Yeah. Easily could have, yeah. I'm glad they went with the practical effects. I thought that was neat. And the reveal, when he came busting out of the back of her head,
Starting point is 01:58:32 I was like, oh, man, I was just, I was naked. And they mixed in some practical effects with the CGI, and I think that it mostly worked. It's hard to, it's hard to make somebody walk backwards and kill people without CTII. Yeah, well, I think
Starting point is 01:58:55 we better be glad we got this movie, boys, because the next film that James One is set to direct is called Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom. What's wrong with that? Come on. I didn't hate the first one. I kind of hated it.
Starting point is 01:59:13 It wasn't better than justly. It was fun to watch in 3D in the theater, but it was a total popcorn canned. Andy, worthless. It just wasn't that great a movie, man. Yeah, I mean, it wasn't James Wan's greatest accomplishment, for sure. But it at least gave some sort of credibility to the DC universe,
Starting point is 01:59:34 because before that, they were like, man, how many times are these guys going to fuck up in a bro? I guess it was better than watching the deep in his movie, right? Like if Steve had his own movie. Is Amber Heard in this one? Yes. Yeah. The husband beat her. Did she beat her husband?
Starting point is 01:59:59 Is that true? Yeah, she beat the shit out of Johnny Jeff, man. She's an asshole. Right on. Real power, man. No, she's a bitch and a half, man. I'm telling you, she's fucking crazy. Yeah, kind of like Tony Catan.
Starting point is 02:00:17 Rest in peace. Did she shit in his bed or something like that? I don't know the specifics. Yes, she was. Allegedly. Sorry. But I know that she, like, tried to take him to court over some bullshit where he was abusive. And turns out she's the fucking psycho.
Starting point is 02:00:36 Did she super glue his dick to his leg or anything like that? No, but she literally, like, physically punched him many times and threw things at him. Wow. Yeah, she's a nodded. If you can't, if, hey, if you can't hang, man. You probably don't deserve her. There's a crazy Hyde Matrix for a reason.
Starting point is 02:00:57 I'm really amazed that there's no stories that have come out about Galgado yet. Oh, wow. Yeah, she could probably take somebody down, man. Because she is too fucking gorgeous.
Starting point is 02:01:10 Right. All right. You guys, uh, is that enough? Uh, spoilers or anything you'll want to get off your chest? Uh,
Starting point is 02:01:19 If you haven't watched this, just watch this movie just for that fucking jailhouse scene. The whole thing is worth watching. Just watch it. Even if you don't like Gialo, even if you don't like James Juan, this movie is worth
Starting point is 02:01:35 watching. It's so fucking crazy. It doesn't make sense. This movie also had music that kind of at first took me out. Fucking Pixies, though. The Pixies with the thing that they were doing, I loved it.
Starting point is 02:01:50 Like a little remake, like orchestrated, where is my mind that they did? Was fucking amazing. I loved it. Yeah. I like the biggest jail cell ever. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:05 Also true. They don't have individuals. They just have one giant one. Yeah, one giant drunk tank, right? With a bunch of really mean bull dikes in it. And one toilet. That was fucked up, man. You just, like, ran through all of them, and then fucking
Starting point is 02:02:25 Terminal style, all the cops. Right. Oh, my God. Yeah, it was awesome, and I loved it, but then I was thinking, why does this thing have superhuman strength? Yes. It's also... Don't ask.
Starting point is 02:02:40 Was this had, what was the Spider-Man villain? Electro? Electric controls electricity? or something. I mean, I didn't, after that third act, I didn't give a fuck. Yeah, I know. Like, it gets, it gets ridiculous to try to even explain it. But yeah, like, ridiculous superhuman hand-to-hand combat skills on a thing that has never
Starting point is 02:03:06 had legs longer than four inches is. Okay. Long story short. Phillip, let's do the anti-CBS All-access right now, okay? Folks, if you're not paying for HBO Max yet,
Starting point is 02:03:23 go get it. Fair enough? Yeah, I think so. I think HBO Max has been totally worth it because they have some of these big movies that come straight to it, and this one is worth watching for sure. As is the Justice League
Starting point is 02:03:39 Extended, go watch that. Yes, yes. And you know what? They got some damn good series. HBO Max has some damn good series as well. So, all right. We got ready for the Spranos thing. Enough, enough sucking HBO Max's dick.
Starting point is 02:03:55 Nez, what's come, and Brian, let's coming up on our other shows, man. Action Returns, we just dropped the suicide squad. Next one we got is 1989. Are you talking about HBO Maxes?
Starting point is 02:04:13 The Suicide Squad? Yes, which now you cannot watch it on HBO Max. Oh, bitch. It'll be back. It'll be back. We got 1989's Renegade starring Kiefer Sutherland and Lou Diamond Phillips coming in. Oh, I have not seen that movie in fucking decades, man. Stream Fiends, we're about to drop our Lady Bugs episode, Rodney Dangerfield.
Starting point is 02:04:39 Great fucking movie. And after that, for Stream Fiends, we're about to drop. we got Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder's See No Evil, Hear No Evil. Another great movie. All right. So maybe y'all can follow that up with a Silver Streak. And what was the one where they dressed up as chicken?
Starting point is 02:04:59 Star Crazy. That's right. Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor, man. You cannot get a better cast than that. Well, next week we're going back into Cage Rage. Is this part three or part four, Brian? I'd lost count. All right.
Starting point is 02:05:18 So we can only hope that Beat and Marcy are going to join us as we're going to tackle not the original but the B's version of the Wicker Man. Never seen it. And the brand new The Wicterman with Nicholas Cage.
Starting point is 02:05:38 You're going in and out. The Wicker Man? Is that what you said? Yeah, the Wicker Man. Not the one with the Count Duku? No, no, no, no, no. The Cage remake, man. This is Cage Rage Week, dude. All right.
Starting point is 02:05:53 Denise! We're going to check out the brand new Prisoners of the Ghostland, which hopefully at least one of us will be able to find at a local theater. So, uh, uh, Naz, until the horror returns.
Starting point is 02:06:05 Good thing. Good night.

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