The Horror Returns - THR Ep. - #277: Tenebre (1982) & Malignant (2021)
Episode Date: September 16, 2021This week, we check out the James Wan directed Malignant as well as 1982's Tenebre. Cool of the Week includes Graceland (yes, THAT Graceland), Hell's Kitchen, Superhost, and What If? Trailers this wee...k are The Matrix 4 and Hawkeye. The podcast spotlight shines on Not Your Final Girl. WE HAVE A BRAND NEW 5 STAR APPLE PODCASTS REVIEW from Donny from Brothers Grim! And we get feedback from Cryptmaster Chucky, Daeron Wilson, Lyle Huckins, Anthony Ybarra, Tavares Ellis, Mike J Marin, Warren Minnix, Marcey Papandrea, Bede Jermyn, and Steven T Boltz. Thanks for listening!
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to the horror returns. I'm Lance
and with me as always
my co-host. We got
Philip, Brian
and Kevin might be jumping
on later, so we'll see how that
goes, but how's it going, guys?
It is going.
How was everybody's week?
It was a week.
More work.
Same shit, different day just now
it's raining. Yeah.
Yeah, we've got a tropical storm coming.
Yeah, so
Rain it up here too.
Is it?
Yeah, for like the last, I'd say like week.
It's gross outside.
Yeah, so if you hear some wind outside,
it's just a hurricane, don't mind that.
All right.
Got to have sound effects.
Man, I was on vacation, so that's always fun.
How was it?
It was cool.
There's a lot of driving, though, dude.
We bet off a lot to chew, man,
because we we drove from i guess houston to memphis memphis to nashville
Nashville Nashville to Birmingham Birmingham to Panama City Beach and then back over to
Houston that is a lot of driving there's a lot of driving yes but uh don't get it was worth it
man in fact um I uh you guys might if I jump in cool of the week yeah go ahead okay so
if you've seen
any number of movies about
Graceland, because there's been a lot of them, right?
And then, of course,
Graceland was destroyed in Zombie Land too, but they had that
cheap motel. It was like
I guess an ode to Graceland or right
across the street from it, but
in reality, man, it's pretty cool, dude.
Out of our whole vacation, that was
actually one of the coolest
things. I cannot
believe the fucking private
jet that Elvis wrote around in.
You guys ever seen it?
I think I've seen pictures.
It's called the Lisa Marie,
and it's like a full-sized jet,
and we walked in,
and there's like a fucking golden toilet
and sink in the bathroom to the right
when you first walk in.
Is that the one that he died on?
I think that was in his house.
Once you leave there, man.
it's like okay that's cool there's like some you know sitting rooms chairs on each side of a table and stuff like that
and then you go into the next room and there's like a tv room like an entertainment room for him
and then you go to the next room and it's like a like a meeting room and then after that there's a full-sized
fucking bedroom like a king-sized bed and everything
huh on the plane on the plane pretty impressive man pretty impressive man pretty impressive
And if that dude just had stayed away from the opioids and the barbiturates and all that, man.
Actually, he may still be around.
According to Bubba Hotep, I guess he is, right?
Or so they say.
If he was hiding somewhere, it'd be in Vegas.
Well, they did a lot with that place, man.
And AJ said that they had built up a lot of, like, it's almost like an amusement park now.
They have like a whole bunch of restaurants, shops, and extra museums.
Dude, dude, own like fucking two dozen cars, man.
Like Rolls Royces, jeeps, motorcycles, like motorized tricycles, sports cars, you name it.
He was living the life, man, until he wasn't.
Yeah, I mean, you got everything you want in the world.
What do you spend it on?
Drugs.
Yeah.
I know we would.
Hopefully we would go over the top, but I mean...
Oh, no. If I was Elvis, I'd be dead long before he was.
Kind of thinking the same thing, man.
Who's fooling who here, right?
But yeah, no, man, cool of the week, Grace Land.
Very, very impressive.
Lots of history.
All right.
Well, man, I got, like, nothing this week.
Not a single thing.
I've done nothing, except.
work and binge watch
Hell's Kitchen.
I'm still stuck on that fucking show.
Oh, yeah.
That must be your cooling week then.
It definitely is, man.
It inspires me to cook some, too.
It doesn't teach you a whole lot on the show,
but I really want to cook some fucking scallops.
Yeah, that's the lesson.
If you're going on that show,
you better know how to make some scallops and some risotto.
You would think, because they do it every fucking season,
and these guys suck at it every time.
But yeah, that's all I got other than the movies,
although I'm excited to talk about the movies this week.
Yeah?
Yeah.
It's always a good sign.
What do I have?
I got two movies.
First one is The Last Matinee.
Slash a movie set in a theater.
during the last matinee of the night.
Ooh.
Sounds interesting.
Yeah, it was pretty good.
A Spanish language movie.
I think it's Argentine, from Argentina, if I'm saying that correctly.
Argentinian.
Yeah, there you go.
I think.
I don't know.
Yeah, decent premise are good acting.
The practical effects for the kills were pretty good.
I like the setting
because it was in one of like kind of the old school theaters
You know projection theater
I'm not even actually now I'm thinking about it
I'm not even sure when this movie was set in
Just the fact that the theater was so old school
Okay
But yeah killer kind of gets in there
Locks the place down and just
Kits to murdering people
So
So was it like popcorn
where they had like
smell of vision and ghosts
coming down
the ceiling and shit like that?
No, that's a good movie.
But, no, it's basically
it's not that many people that were in there.
It's like a couple of teenagers.
One kid that kind of snuck it,
he was hiding when the usher
was kind of, you know, making sure nobody was in there.
And then like a couple,
like a couple and a couple of old people.
So not that many people in there.
So, but yeah, decent movie, though.
I think this one is coming to Shutter this month, I think.
So anybody wants to check it out.
It's going to be on there.
But my cool of the week is on Shutter, and it's called Superhost.
Oh, we saw the trailer for this.
Yes.
Okay.
It sounds familiar.
Yeah, it's, okay, it's a couple.
they have a YouTube channel
they're like one of those vacation
vloggers where they go to like Airbnb
or hotels and kind of
you know review them
and they go
to one place where
which is the way
they made it seem it was kind of hard to
get reservations in and when they go there
they meet the owner and she's
fucking wacky from the beginning
and that's what made
the movie from me was her performance
because she is a fucking
that job.
Superhood.
It sounds like something
AJ and I
should probably start
doing, Brian,
when we do all
our travels, right?
Yeah, why not?
Start doing some
blogging.
Get their YouTube money.
Make a living
going on vacation.
Yeah.
Because we're sure as hell
not getting the
YouTube money
from the horror returns
yet, are we?
Too fucking lazy
to get the channel
going.
But super host,
yeah, definitely
check that one out.
All right.
Nice.
Ah,
guess that's it,
huh?
Yeah.
All right.
Well, I guess that means that now it's time for horror headlines.
Brought to you by The Inimitable Brian.
Take it away, man.
Don't know what that word means, but I will take it.
Oh, Barbara Crampton is in Superhost, huh?
Yes, yes.
Ah, okay.
I'm sold.
Always nice to see her pop in.
Which I didn't even know she was in the movie until she showed up.
I was just like, hey, it's Barb Crampton.
Very nice.
Let's start with some couple of release dates here.
James Wands, which I just now found out, produced Salem's Lot remake.
Don't try to trick me again, James Wan.
I know your tricks.
The Salem's Lot remake gets a September 9th, 2020.
22 release.
And a couple of cast,
new cast editions.
Who was it?
Alfrey Woodard.
And who else was it?
Can't think of it now.
Somebody else is in it.
Oh, William Sadler. That's who was in it.
Oh, he joins the cast.
Okay.
And Guillermo del Toro's
Nightmare Alley, which was one of those
movies that was supposed to come out,
like a year ago.
It gets a December 17th
this year release date, only
in theaters, which
I'll see it when I believe it,
because everything's kind of getting
pushed back and pulled.
Yeah.
Still going on, huh?
The prequel to
Orphan, Orphan First Kill,
has been acquired by Paramount
for release.
And it's the same actress, right?
Yeah, that's why I'm kind of eager.
to watch it because I want to see
how they make this happen.
Isn't that it 20 fucking years ago?
Yeah.
It's been a while, dude.
He's going to be old as shit.
No shit.
I love the concept of that movie, though.
Yeah.
So I'm dying to see how they make this happen.
It'll be interesting.
Let's see.
I guess the biggest, I was supposed to bring this up last week,
but I kind of left it off my notes.
The new paranormal activity movie
is coming to Paramount Plus this Halloween.
Hmm.
Well, Philip won't be seeing it because it's still CBS all access anyway you slice it.
Oh, yes.
Also, the Fetéry Alvarez produced Texas Chainsaw Massacre movie,
which is a direct sequel to the original one,
has been acquired by Netflix.
And from what I'm hearing, this will come out in October.
Man, I'd like to get excited about it, but I feel like a new sequel or remake or whatever that fucking movie comes out every couple of years.
I'll believe that one when I see it, too.
Yeah.
And the biggest news, which came to, came by surprise to everybody, Halloween kills will release on Peacock the same day it releases in theaters.
That'd work.
That's strange.
Yeah, it just kind of came out of nowhere.
I remember I was done posting news and trailers for the day on all, you know, our social media accounts.
And then it just popped up.
And I had to do some double checking because I was like, is this real?
Well, I'm sure you got to pay extra for it or some bullshit, right?
You think so?
It's not just on their like free service.
Yeah, it is.
I mean, well, no, if you're the paid service.
On the paid peacock thing?
Okay.
Yeah, but I get the free one, and I just sit through the commercials,
but you're saying it won't be on that one.
As far as I, I mean, I get the paid one because I get the WWE network,
which is still fucking horrible on there.
But, yeah.
And those big movies come out and on these streams, like,
a malignant wouldn't go on our HBO Max thing.
Right.
Like, it made me try to change plans or something.
So I was like, are you serious?
Maybe I'll take a different route.
Now, wait a minute.
I thought malignant was on HBO Max, period, dude.
What are you talking about?
I don't know.
It said it wanted me to change plans.
Change plans.
I'm using my sister-in-laws HBO Max.
Oh, maybe you only get so many TVs or something like that, right?
I don't know what's going on with it.
Oh, okay.
Okay.
Well, it was out there, so.
Hmm.
Okay.
Well, somewhere it's fine.
You know what, though?
I've noticed about HBO Max, and I don't know if it's just because of that nice
new TV that I've got, but the fucking, the picture quality on everything I've seen on HBO Max has been just phenomenal.
Like, it almost seems like it's better than a lot of the other streaming services.
Well, I think Malignant was in 4K.
They were streaming in 4K.
Yeah, it makes sense because it looked beautiful, man.
But we'll get to malignant later because I have some thoughts on that one.
But, yeah, three kind of big horror releases coming in October.
So that's pretty cool.
Very nice.
And if you guys remember, when we reviewed the last Halloween,
that was probably my worst fucking theater experience since doing this show.
Oh, yeah.
I think I'm, I might stay home for this one, but.
Well, on the upside, at least COVID has scared a lot of the idiots out of the theater.
Well, we hope so.
Right.
I mean, I've only been to the theater a couple of times since it happened, but it's been a way better experience than normal.
You don't have fucking moron back there is not paying attention in talking the whole time.
Brian can do an advert for the peacock network.
Stick it to the cock or stick it with the cock.
I don't know.
There's something in there somewhere, Brian.
Yeah, fix your fucking WWE network.
The shit is so fucking hard to manage and search for shit.
It's like you just had to take a look of what it was before and just bring it over.
I don't know why they try to make it difficult to...
find anything.
Yeah, the peacock thing is a little confusing.
Is it?
I mean, I just, I haven't really tried to use it, but I know they have their paid and the free and the...
Right, right.
Like, they sort of advertise it as free, and then sometimes it's not.
Ah, that sucks.
Yeah, I just do the free service, you know.
I just like watch a lot of the old Saturday Night Live shows, of course, which are, you know,
obviously all on there.
Then, like, Rutherford Falls, I've checked out some episodes of that.
It's not too bad.
A couple of commercials.
It's just like old school TV, you know?
Yeah.
See, and you know what?
I'm not mad about that type of streaming service.
Like, I'm kind of done with my CBS All Access rants.
But because when they first came out, dude, nobody was doing that shit.
They were just the first on the seat.
And they just went straight up, hey, you can't watch our shit.
unless you pay for it. How about that? I'm like, no, motherfucker. You're a multi-billion-dollar corporation
that has advertisers out the fucking mazoo. I'm not paying for your shit.
Is this a new rat?
Here we go. Is this a new one?
Yeah, I guess so.
This is the new one. Place the whole one.
But that's why I was so mad at the whole situation. I feel like at least NBC has done their
fans a service
and at least giving
some sort of free streaming
because at the end of the day
you are network television
motherfucker
well have you guys
so have you guys watched any of the
the peacock originals like
Rutherford Falls for example
uh
I can't say though
it's
it's pretty cool
because it's like you're getting
you know like regular NBC TV
with commercials but you also get a few
F bombs in there
which is really awesome
So I got no problem with it
It's like Tubey, right?
Like you have to sit through a few commercials,
but you don't have to pay a penny.
Yeah, I'm fine with that.
Yeah, peacocks like that.
So if I can watch Halloween kills
and sit through a few commercials,
I'm fine with that, you know?
The price you pay, right?
My wife has been stuck on Pluto live TV
watching fucking Dallas Cowboy Cheerleaders
reruns over and over.
God, that sounds horrible.
Pluto is pretty fucking good, free service, too.
Is it?
What is that bad watch?
It's almost like the way it's kind of set up is it like you had cable and you're just kind of flipping through channels.
And they got channels like dedicated to like certain shows or genres.
Yeah, it's just a free TV service and then they have commercials.
That's not bad.
That makes sense.
So it's streaming then
It's not on demand
It's actually like streaming channels then
Yeah
Yeah
Kind of like Roku then
I guess
Yeah
Rooh
What was that fucking
What was that fucking show
We were talking about
When we were talking about
Don't Breathe
The first one
With the actress
You said she was on some show
That was on Hulu
You mean the original
Actress from the first
Don't Breathe movie
No
Yeah
Yeah
I'm going to have to buy some time
while I'm
like a musical or something
No it's not horror
No it's not horrors uh never oh jane levy
yeah that show she's on that was on hulu
uh zoe's extraordinary playlist
yeah uh i'm just bringing it up because we were talking about free streaming
but i guess it did the castle rock castle rock
what
you're talking about castle rock right
the musical one that you love so much where they sing and dance and everybody's so happy
never mind we're way off topic i just threw up on my mouth a little bit
you say that apple tv show smegadoon okay that was the news that sounds like bad word
whatever it is i'm pretty sure it's gonna get us in trouble at some point
Is that the news?
Yep.
We ended up with two trailers, right?
I'm saying it!
Yep.
We jump right into trailer park.
Let's do it, man.
All right.
The first trailer was one that dropped today as we're recording,
Disney Plus's Hawkeye series.
Hmm.
We're all going to watch it.
Let's not get ourselves.
But this stars, of course, Jeremy Renner, Haley Steinfeld, Vera Formiga.
Oh, that should make you happy, Brian.
Yes, it does.
Florence Pugh is going to reprise her character as Yelena.
Okay.
I didn't see Vera Formiga in the trailer.
I didn't either.
She had, like, one quick, like, second.
Oh, okay.
trust me i i recognize fearful me ago when i see you that is a weird fetish but okay
thank you pride myself on that one uh i started off um i he hawkeyes has always been a character
as far as the mc u that i didn't really care about yeah but i i like the setup for this
because of course this is again another series setting up the young um
Avengers, kind of the new, the new era.
Oh, I gotcha.
Okay.
And if you guys saw the, the, the end credit scene for Black Widow, you know, we're going to get that storyline in this series.
Which is, okay.
Spoiler.
Spoiler.
Everybody skip ahead a couple of minutes.
Yelena at the grave of Natasha and then the one chick from the Falcon and Winters.
soldier show shows up and basically tells her Hawkeye is the one responsible for your sister's
death.
Oh.
Ouch.
Well, that'll open up a can of worms, won't it?
Yeah.
And it looks like a nice alternative to Christmas shows, because this has a Christmas theme.
Oh, yes, it does.
Very much so, man.
That was kind of my only issue with the trailer is the Christmasy shit going on in the background.
Like, I mean, I guess I get what they were trying to do, but it's, you know,
It looked like it was going to be really cool,
except for, you know, fucking jingle bells.
I think that's just going to be, I think it was just for the commercial.
Yeah, I know.
It was kind of irritating commercial.
They showed some, like, Christmas trees and a wreath and Christmas lights and all kinds of shit.
So, I don't know.
It's interesting.
Marvel's done some weird stuff for their TV shows, that's for sure.
Yeah.
It just seems like weird background music first.
in action. It really does, doesn't it? Yeah.
Having said that, all the
footage look great. Yeah.
Hey, I'll tell you what, I
hadn't seen Bumblebee before, and I
finally caught that the other night. I'm impressed
with Haley Steinfield.
She's a pretty good little actress.
Yeah, she was
a movie. What was that movie?
She was in, I think,
Edge of 17.
She was pretty good in that one, too.
I remember true grit.
Yeah.
She was like super young in that one, right?
Yeah, yeah.
I didn't realize that was all the same person.
That's pretty cool.
Yeah.
She's the one that fell in the rattlesnake pit at the end.
Spoiler alert.
And I don't know if you guys noticed,
but another angle they're going to play into this is
I saw the hearing aids in Hawkeyes' ear.
Oh, what?
Because in the comics, he starts to lose his hearing.
Oh.
No kidding.
And I've seen a little, I'm assuming they were ear,
hearing aids and not earpieces
because it was during a scene
where I don't know why
he would have an earpiece in.
Just too many
Avengers explosions right next to him.
So, yeah, I think it's fair to say
that we'll all be checking out Hawkeye.
Yeah, kind of have to.
You know, he did have one of the best lines
in the whole series when...
Did he?
Age of Ultron when he's talking about, I can't remember specifically what it was,
but he just kind of breaks down the whole battle scene, and he's like,
and I have a bow and fucking arrow.
He's talking to Wanda.
Yeah.
He was like, none of this makes any sense.
Yeah.
Kind of like the old joke about Aquaman.
I talk to fish, and then they carry that over to the deep in the boys.
It's like, what's your superpower?
I can talk to fish.
And I'm seeing here, this will also have a character named Echo,
who she will get her own Disney Plus spinoff show.
She is a Native American superhero that is also, I believe she's deaf,
so I think that'll play into the whole Hawkeye losing his hearing.
Oh, gotcha.
That makes sense.
Yeah, I feel like they're probably going to go,
off on this tangent of
weird superheroes that nobody's
ever heard of and
eventually
bring it back home and
use the property that they actually bought.
Let's go back to Avengers and X-Men and stuff.
Nez, what you
think about Hawkeye?
Trailer?
Yep. Oh, man, I was juiced.
Yeah?
I'm ready. Ready for Christmas?
I'm ready. I'm glad
they didn't show
what's her nuts yet
Echo?
Yeah, you guys saw Black Widow, you know she's coming.
Yeah, we just talked about her.
She's getting her own series.
I don't know about all that, but all right, I'll watch it.
But yeah, it looked pretty good.
I wasn't sure on what they were going to do.
But, all right, I mean, is it going to be,
to me, it seemed like it was going to be a comedy.
I hope not, but we'll see it,
Because it just seemed like there was just slat, sticky jokes.
But I don't know.
Yeah, maybe that was it with the Christmasy thing going on in the background.
It was like too lighthearted.
Yeah, so they're just going to be running around in the winter and the Big Apple.
I thought it was going to...
I want...
Well, hopefully this will lead into the West Coast Avengers.
I'm going Young Avengers.
They hinted it in one of those...
previous films. I don't know which one, because they were saying they were going to start
something out west. So I was hoping for that, but I don't know. I guess I got to introduce
all the characters first before they start the West Coast Avengers, but I don't know.
We also have a bunch of spinoffs like The Walking Dead.
I don't know. We'll see. Do you guys do cool the week already?
Yeah, go ahead. Real quick, Hawkeye, Disney Plus, November 24th.
Give us your cool.
Well, it was last week's.
When did I see it?
I don't know whenever I said,
but I saw Shang-chi again.
That was badass.
And what if?
The Marvel Zombies.
That was the best one so far.
So I'm in.
If they continue,
I would like to see more of that story,
but because the way it ended,
I was like,
Oh, man, but I don't know.
Me and my son had all kinds of questions.
But that timeline isn't in the timeline we know.
So I don't know.
Because we're like, well, we're stores.
He's still floating out in space?
And we're like, I don't even know if that happened yet.
Or if that happened at all, if, spoiler alert, if Thanos was at the end.
But I don't know.
We'll see.
But, yeah, Shang-chi, that movie was badass.
I had to go see it again.
There was something else I watched.
Oh, it came out Friday, I believe.
Kate.
I finished that.
I liked it for what it was.
That Mary Elizabeth Winstead, or however you say her name.
I've always liked her since I've first seen her.
Yeah.
I see that she's got potential to be an action star
if they're going to choose to
if she chooses to pick those roles,
cool. I mean, was her fighting skills
and all that the greatest? No.
But she's got potential to do something
if she just trains a little more.
Because it did look a little sloppy, but
I mean, it was her. There was no
CG fighting, DGI fighting
or anything. But yeah, if you guys haven't seen that
on Netflix, though.
What's that called?
Kate.
Oh, Kate. I thought she said cake.
The one with Jennifer Aniston.
That's been a while.
Was she fighting in that one?
I don't know.
Cake was the one where she made herself look real plain.
She had some kind of mental condition or something.
Do you guys remember that?
Yeah.
I don't remember any fighting in it, though.
No, no fighting.
Just like a drama.
All right.
On to the second and final trailer.
The Matrix Resurrection.
Let's see.
I Anu Reeves is returning.
Kary Ann Moss, Jada Pinkett Smith.
And let me see if I get his name right.
The guy that is in everything.
Yaya Abdul Mateen II,
who was in Candyman, the Watchman.
Wow.
In the upcoming Mad Max sequel or spinoff,
guys everywhere.
Jessica Henwick, Jonathan Groff,
Neil Patrick Harris,
Harris,
Priyanka, Chopra,
Jonas, if I said her name, right?
And Christina Ricci.
Maybe the Jonas brother, I forgot about that.
Ouch.
I'm in.
I didn't know if I didn't know if I was in
because I didn't know if we needed a sequel
almost 20 years after the last one.
Uh-huh.
But I like what I'm seeing.
Everything, the special
effects look updated.
Yeah, everybody keeps talking about
he's got his John look, John Wick
look in this movie, and it's because
he was filming this and John Wick
at the same time, because we were supposed to get
both of them this year.
That's right. That's right.
I was like, did John Wick
crossover to the Matrix?
I think so. I think so.
Originally before the pandemic,
originally before the pandemic happened,
they were, they were billing
this as the Matrix and
John Wick were supposed to release the same day
last year, or this year
actually. How amazing
would that have been for
Kiano?
Just in general.
That's a big fucking day.
That's a double feature right there, huh?
You know you're going to own the box office.
And Yahya Abdul
Matine II has confirmed
he is playing a version
of Morpheus.
Okay. Okay.
Like a young Morpheus?
I got it.
Yeah.
I still think Lawrence Fishburn has show up, even though he keeps saying he wasn't asked to be in it.
You know, kind of like how Toby McGuire and Andrew Garfield keeps saying they're not in the new Spider-Man.
Yeah.
But, of course, they have to be, right?
Yeah.
So.
Well, first guy has Fishburn, man.
How would you not ask that guy to be in the new Matrix movie?
But action looks great.
Special effects look great.
It's good to see Keanu back as Neo.
So, I mean...
Didn't Neo die in the last one?
I don't remember.
I got to rewatch it.
It's no resurrection, man.
Come on.
I know Carrie Ann Moss died.
Maybe he just...
Maybe he got stuck back into the Matrix
and doesn't remember anymore.
See, those movies went way over my head.
I didn't understand the second or the third one.
Yeah, the second and third one got kind of.
kind of silly.
It lost me when that one guy showed up.
What was it?
The architect?
Yeah.
And I was like, who the fuck are you?
Yeah.
They just started talking, and I didn't know what was happening.
I know the architect for the Matrix.
Sorry, go ahead.
And the third one, the only thing I remember is
that one dude that had that Hulkbuster suit on with the machine guns and was
blasting all those octopus things.
that's the only thing I remember
I mean everyone kept saying that
you had to
watch Animatrix
and play the
whatever that Matrix game was for PlayStation 2
they said all that fit in
I don't know
I'm just gonna have to watch some videos on YouTube
for someone to explain it
because I just it went right over my head
the first one was the best one
Of course
Second one was cool
I mean my favorite part was
whole freeway chase.
Only because they filmed it in my hometown in downtown Oakland, so I thought that was awesome.
And then they rolled over into Alameda to the naval base where they built that freeway.
So it was kind of like a circle.
That's why the freeway in the movie had walls because they were just going, they were pretty
much going in a circle.
And they just...
I was going to say California doesn't seem like the best place to shut down a fucking freeway for a movie.
No, it was a big old open pad or something out in the naval base.
They just built it there.
Because it was close to the skate park.
And I remember when all the trucks were rolling and we didn't know what they were doing.
And then they started building something.
All we saw was wood from where we could see.
And we didn't know what it was.
And then later someone goes, yeah, they're filming the Matrix over there.
But we couldn't see anything.
That whole place was locked down.
I mean, we could see the set, but we saw the cars that they were going to use in the scene.
That was about it.
I mean, it was just cars.
It wasn't like there were special cars that they made.
But I don't know.
That was all we saw from where we were.
That's all we could see.
I mean, that was the only thing I remember that one.
But, yeah, when the architect stepped in, went over my head.
I didn't know.
You were out, huh?
And maybe they'll bring it all together, man.
I hope so.
Maybe they'll all fuck up and not make even more sense.
I don't know.
Yeah, it was just those last two movies kind of got a little out there.
I can't really even remember any part of the storyline about them.
But this one looks interesting.
I'm fucking stoked.
It's a good reason to go back and it's a good reason to go back and rewatch the other movies, I think.
Yeah.
I think only one Wachowski is directing.
not both of them.
Mm-hmm.
So.
Oh, no.
We only got the half of Wachowski.
A half of Wachowski.
Philip, to kind of answer your question about malignant, you're not finding it.
Yeah.
I guess HBO Max has, because real quick, the Matrix resurrection is going to be in theaters and
HBO Max at the same time, December 22nd.
Yeah.
And it says it will stream directly on HBO Max on its ad-free tier.
apparently they have tears now
See I think that's what I was subscribing to
and then somebody stole my fucking account
and changed the email address.
I definitely have the ad-free tier.
There's no doubt about that.
I didn't know there were two ads in those.
I did either. How do you throw an ad on an
HBO movie that kind of defeats the purpose?
You get to watch a trailer for HBO show over and over.
Aye. Yeah.
I'm fucking stoked about this one, man.
They made the hair of my arms stand up.
I'm so nice.
Yeah.
What's this one called Matrix?
What? Resurrection.
Okay.
I mean, we were supposed to get it last year?
Yes.
Yeah.
All right.
Yeah, my buddy saw.
They were filming it out in front of his, he works in San Francisco, and they were
filming stuff right out in front.
Right.
And he goes, I didn't see anybody.
I don't know what parts they were filming there.
I said, but they were out there.
everyone stay in the buildings.
And he was just looking out the window watching him.
But he wasn't sure what they were doing.
He said there was a bunch of cars driving along.
So I don't know.
He said there was no gunfire or anything.
So I said weak.
Yeah.
You know we'll all be there on an opening scene somewhere.
We'll be there on opening day, right, Naz?
Yep.
I just want a lot of gunfire.
I mean, because that first, that first one,
they did a lot of explaining mainly for for neos sake but once he kind of bought in and that whole scene when they rolled into that building and just started gunning everyone up uh that was pretty sweet i remember first seeing the the trailer and then
going really slow and the bullets passed in him if you watch those now it's well okay let me uh matrix reloaded the second one
I watched that one recently.
That scene when he was fighting all the agent Smiths.
Yeah.
Oh, where he looked like a cartoon?
Oh, it looks, it did not hold up.
Yeah.
It looks.
It was awesome when we first saw, but watching it now in 21, I was like,
this looks terrible, but we're just spoiled with how technology is.
But who knows?
You know what does hold up?
Every scene in the first Matrix.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, you're right.
Okay, I'm ready for it.
I mean, just don't make us think too hard.
And I love the white rabbit going on in the background and the whole play on that thing, which totally makes sense.
It's very cool.
Yeah, man, I'm super excited for this one.
No Hugo weaving as Agent Smith.
We'll be okay.
I'm going to be okay. Hey, how about
Samara weaving? How is it?
Agent Smith? Yeah, that
would be great lasting, right?
Well, didn't they burn up his program
or something in the last one?
Oh, yeah, but we were also
trying to figure out of fucking Neo died
in the last one, so
they just stuck you back in the Matrix.
I don't think... Wasting a
body suit. I don't think Carrie Ann Moss
that's her action. I don't think
she's actually alive. I think
She's just a program.
Oh, that's cool.
I got no problem with that if they write it well.
I don't know.
I think they may stick her in there with it.
Because why would they put that program?
Unless it's the good guys throwing her in the program to remind him of who he is.
I don't get to put her in that plastic suit she was wearing and put a machine gun in her hand.
Yeah, I think, I think you guys just nailed it.
I think that's what it's going to be.
We don't need to watch it now.
No, we'll watch it.
We're going to watch it.
This is the first trailer I've seen that I've been really excited about in a long time.
Yeah.
Yeah, I have to agree with you.
I'm pretty excited about Dune.
HBO Max, dude.
They're on their A game.
Definitely.
Yeah, but I mean, it sounds...
Oh, Cry Macho.
I can't wait to see Cry Macho this weekend.
Yeah, and I'm also waiting for...
The Many Saints of Newark, because I'm big soprano.
That's going out in an American episode, right?
October 1st.
That'll for sure be good.
HBO Max.
You had me HBO.
Another movie featuring Vera Formiga.
She is a great actress.
Brian, you can find her sex stage.
Yeah.
Yes, you're talking about that.
That was her.
All right.
Okay, I wasn't sure.
But Dune, I feel like, has sort of.
much potential to just
crash hard.
I know.
I'm going to the theater for that one.
Or it would really fucking suck.
The casting is phenomenal in it.
I just reread the book,
knowing who all the cast was going to be in the new movie,
and I pictured them all when I was reading it,
and it was like spot on.
So do you think it's just going to be the super fans pissed off
or everybody?
I don't know.
I'll be at the theater
I don't care of anybody else
Should you guys rewatch that original one lately?
No, we're going to.
I don't think I've ever seen it.
I've seen it so many times.
I don't need to rewatch it, but yeah, I will
rewatch it for when we do Dune.
I'm down for a rewatch, for sure.
I'll watch it because I hated it that very first time I saw it.
I love it.
Paula Trades, the Quixack Satirac,
the Super Being.
right it was sold to me as star wars and that's not what i got so i was mad that man can kill with
the word mm-hmm whenever that was 80-something when that one came out just a little kid and i was just
this is fucking boring what the fuck's going on but when we we did the rewatch for uh espr refine
that movie blew me away on how awesome it is yeah well nes they left they left big parts of the
book out, by the way.
The cool thing about that, though,
is that the new one, I think, is only going to be the first
half of the book.
Yeah. So, um, if they play their cards right.
What's his name? Says he has the sequel ready to go
if they greenlighted.
Uh, they need to just go ahead and film it before
it bombs at the box office.
But we're not getting the worms in this one?
Huh?
We're not getting the worms in this one?
Yeah, we're getting them.
Yeah. That's probably going to be toward the end. I'm guessing
and him riding the worm will be toward the end of the
this movie.
Yes.
Yeah, so, I don't know.
No sting, but I still see it.
They should throw beetle juice in on the back.
Oh, yeah, of course.
Absolutely.
In the background of one.
Yes.
Hey, who did, who did Sting play in the first one?
Do you remember?
Was he like the, was he one of the bad guys?
Yeah, he's one of the Harconans.
Okay.
or Fade or whatever his name was.
Okay, all right.
He was one of the buddies of that one fat dude that was floating around.
The Baron Harkonin.
Yeah.
Fade got a, his death scene wasn't too good for him.
Well, isn't the Baron Harkonan and this new one going to be the father of fucking Pennywise in real life?
Yeah, the flying Scarsguards?
Yes.
Scarsguard father?
Yeah, the professor
from the first Thor movie.
The war movie.
Yes.
He's responsible for all them.
How many motherfuckers are there?
A lot of them.
I think there's like six or seven of them.
Should we be fucking worried?
Is this like something that we should keep an eye on?
God damn Scars guards?
I don't know.
We made it through the Baldwin, so.
Yeah, I guess that's true.
All right.
The Matrix resurrection.
December 20th.
seconds. That is it.
All righty.
Moving on to listener feedback.
Did you just have two? I'm sorry.
Yeah, go ahead.
Did you just have two trailers?
Yeah.
Okay.
Is there another one that you saw that you want to bring up?
No, I thought you had three.
No.
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the whole crew is always down to give interesting perspectives and fresh takes on current and classic genre fair i recommend it to newbies and avid horror fans thank you for yeah um lance let's be clear i don't fucking know horror these guys know horror well there was a couple of listener feedback apparently none of us know which the the the purge one still gets me i don't know how we didn't know
about the founding fathers
what about them
because we were asking
who started the purge
the original bird
oh yeah the whole founding fathers thing
well because it's always just a background
story and the
I thought it was the proud
I thought it was the proud boys man
come on
but Lance I got something here
from the action returns
it was on Twitter
that I wanted to run by
how did you feel
about the Picard show, Star Trek.
I loved it. Okay.
I'm gonna read this how it
is written out.
This roboter
Picard shit, who cares?
Not Star Trek, not
good sci-fi.
Shit with a label is shit
with a label. Fire
Cutsman, isn't
his name, Kurtzman?
Yeah, yeah. Okay. So, but it
says Cutsman. The 25%
franchise destroyer
a franchise who loved generations
which inspired scientists
is nothing more than
dump shit. RIP
Star Trek, so sad.
Well, I've got one answer.
I've got one answer to that.
I've got a lot of hate.
It's already been renewed
for two more seasons, so, you know,
we're all entitled to our own
opinion, but obviously somebody
likes it.
Well, apparently,
uh,
to,
uh,
I don't even know how to fucking say this Twitter handle, but according to him, it's dump shit.
He'll killed the whole franchise.
It's all good, man.
Everybody has their own opinion.
They're entitled to it.
And he must just be a super old-school trekkie.
It's like, we don't want to see anything different than just fucking Captain Kirk talking to computers and talking them out of taking over the world and shit like that.
Because that's all you got in the first series.
Well, I imagine it's the same as like Star Wars.
You know what I mean?
Oh, true.
True.
Just huge factions of people who hate the new Star Wars stuff.
Although I hear it's getting retcon.
So there's that.
Last Jedi was bullshit.
Here we go.
Here we go.
That's all I got.
That's all right.
Thanks for the feedback.
We like any feedback.
Everybody's got their own opinion.
personally I love Picard.
I'm looking forward to the next two seasons and beyond.
Wesley Crusher needs a show.
Oh, hell yes.
He does.
That would be awesome.
I think it's just around the corner.
It's got to happen, right?
Will Whitton, if you listen, come on.
He is listening.
He's one of our biggest fans, dude.
Come on.
I mean, he can't do the other one anymore, right?
Not young Sheldon, but the...
Big Ben.
Yeah, he can't do Big Band.
anymore so he's got to go somewhere right
he was on young Sheldon
the young Sheldon
was watching the generations
I love it
they show him and then he said something
he goes it's weird though he goes
Will Whitton is really my friend now
right I love it
we also got an email
from hopefully a future guest
says greetings
I hope this message finds you well.
I've authored my first title,
The Book of Top Ten Horror Lists,
where 100 celebrities contributed their favorite top 10 horror theme lists.
That sounds like he actually does know horror, unlike us.
Yeah.
I would love to send a proper press release about the book.
If you're interested and hopefully be a guest on your show,
please get back to me.
Thank you so much.
You send a copy.
Yeah.
cheer and chills Charles, aka Cryptmaster Chucky.
Well, Cryptmaster, we would like to have you on the show.
That sounds awesome.
We turned down nobody.
I have reached out, so we'll see how it goes.
You've got to put up with our dumb asses.
Anything about what?
Celebrities, top ten movies or?
Top ten horror, yeah.
That'd be pretty cool.
Lightning around everybody.
What's your favorite?
Hurry.
But favorite horror movie of all time?
No, porn.
Hurry.
Oh, porn?
Maybe he does Dallas.
Hurry, hoarse.
The exorcist, man.
Come on.
Phil.
Yeah, the exorcist, for sure.
Easy.
Right.
The thing.
And I like that.
That's my number two.
Which one?
What do you mean?
Which one?
Which one?
The black and white one.
The thing from another world.
Come on.
John Carpenter.
Yeah, because who directed that other one, the prequel?
I don't know.
It wasn't a terrible movie, but yeah, I like that.
Anybody's number fucking one, dude.
I liked it, but then when you find out that they were going to go practicals,
and then they just, at the last minute, changed their mind.
Yeah.
Because they made stuff for that movie.
And then they were like, no, we are not going to use it.
It would cost too much.
But mine Friday 13, 1980.
Nice. Okay. See, all classic ship. Maybe we do know our horror after all.
There you go.
We only know a couple movies that sound like.
Well, the classics, man. Everybody's got to have a top ten.
All right. Regarding Green Room and touring in a punk band, this one ought to be interesting.
Darren Wilson, our buddy, hooked this up with a lot of first-hand feedback.
He says, just got to the actual question.
in the episode. I'll add the best on-tour food from a venue. Not the killer home-cooked ones
was in a club in Philadelphia. They gave us a pizza so big we ate it for three days.
I'd have had that shit killed in one. Well, dude, man, that's you've got to eat very,
very cautiously when you're on the road. Because you never know when your next meal might
you have to dive into a dumpster for her, you know?
Save that fucking pepperoni, you asshole.
Right.
Definitely have had Nazi skinhead violence at shows, but never played shows run by Nazis.
Well, that's a good thing.
Definitely had a scary moment playing at a biker club party.
Well, yeah, that makes sense.
Definitely shown up on tour, to be told, all the bands dropped off the show.
Okay.
Selling shirts and other merch and general generosity.
of most of the local bands got us through when it was looking rough.
I'm sure it's common in other scenes, but here, when it happened on tour,
there was a commonplace thing that all of the local bands
giving their cut to the touring band when the pay was particularly low.
Hmm.
Wow.
That sounds pretty interesting.
I'm amazed that that shit happens.
Yeah.
I mean, hey, dude.
The lower the pay, more people are going to be like,
I want you
fuck off
That's
That's the punk lifestyle
Man
It's a brotherhood
You know
There you go
Look out for each other
All right
Well
Watch out for the skinheads
The San Antonio bar
We walked it
There's a very good
possibility
I may have been
Just been paranoid
No
We both felt it
Dude
They all were dressed
like, like, like they were in, in, and, in, uh, what the, green room.
Yeah, green room.
Literally.
Yeah, there's something, something's going on.
I was like, wait, what the fuck is going on in here?
There was something going on.
I got a little scared for a minute.
All right.
Regarding a picture of Eric Roberts with a gun to the head on our group page.
What you say?
Lyle Huckin says, a talking cat, two, I'll take the bullet.
I don't know what that means.
I don't know what that means either.
I was hoping one of you would explain it.
Nez?
I don't even know what you're talking about.
All right.
I didn't see it.
All right, moving on.
Apparently it was about a talking cat.
Yeah, it's a new movie that Eric Roberts is going to be in that I think we're going to be getting a screener for, possibly, maybe.
Oh, is that what that is?
Yeah.
Oh, okay.
And then the guy, he commented that, and I was like, what the fuck does that mean?
Yeah, send it to us.
We'll watch it.
All right.
Well, confusion gross.
Regarding the just before dawn, Blue Ray, Anthony Boris says, I'm done.
Tavares Ellis says Amari Hardwick and Loretta Devine.
killed it in the horror movie
Spell. That was a pretty good one.
Yeah?
Yeah. Is that a
2020-21 movie?
Last year.
Okay.
Where is it on?
Hulu.
I think I've seen it on.
Hulu and HBO Max
fucking rule right now.
Seriously.
And Shutter's got some really good shit.
Yeah, Shudder's a close third.
I'm super impressed with those guys.
Like, if there's a
fucking thing that I'm going to give my money to
shutters it
and HBO Max
is totally worth it.
We know it wasn't going to be
Paramount Plus.
Yeah, I think it's my ass.
The whole asshole.
Pucker up, motherfucker.
All right.
This movie's the end result
if misery and the
skeleton key had a baby.
Huh.
Well, that's quite a stretch.
You got me, definitely got me
interested now.
I just like to see misery in the skeleton key have a baby.
That would be a weird, scary way.
I don't even remember what happened in the skeleton key.
But now that I'm thinking about it, that is a good description of spell.
Yeah? I'm going to check it out. And you say hello, huh?
Yeah.
I like the skeleton key. It got a lot of hate.
Eh.
Yeah.
Oh, that's my one, what's your name?
The skeleton.
Spell.
As Omari Hardwick, he's in that show power.
Or was on that show power?
I don't know if it's still gone.
On Stars.
Kate Hudson was in the skeleton key.
I remember that.
And Peter Sarzgard.
Not to be confused with Scarsguard.
God damn it, there's another one.
They're fucking multiplying.
This one's a SARS guard, though.
Suddenly ended up with an extra kid, and his last name is Scarsguard.
Boy.
Anyway, it says very, very good movie, so check out Spill.
Regarding malignant, hey, Mike Morin says,
It's time!
Warren Minnick says this film is wild.
That it is.
That's the best description that I've heard so far.
Marcy Pupandria says perhaps one of the most emotional I've been on a podcast ever.
We take a deep dive into the adaptations of my favorite film and of all time stand by me.
Great movie.
The classic Misery and More Kathy Bates with Dolores Claiborne.
I've never seen that.
I haven't either.
You never seen it?
Great book.
Good movie too.
Oh, that's good.
Oh, okay.
Check that out. I mean, Kathy Bates is always awesome.
Before watching
a messed up her face,
Jennifer Jason Lee.
Right, right.
I thought you were going to say Meg Ryan.
There's so many people that have fucked up their face.
Jennifer Jason Lee, if you're listening, I love you to death,
but you look better.
You should have just left it alone.
You got that plastic surgery on your face shit is not there yet.
Quit doing it.
You look like a giant G.I. Joe doll.
She's on that show atypical.
And my wife goes, I can't look at her.
I'm like, well, I don't know what to tell you.
What a shame, man.
I still would say.
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Stephen T. Bolt says Dolores Claiborne and Gerald's game would have been a good double.
Yeah.
That makes sense.
What's one's Gerald's game?
Uh, the Carla Gugino.
She gets tied up to a bed.
Yeah.
Oh, it's not, what was the one when they were in the cornfield?
In the tall grass
In the tall grass
Oh yeah
Fell sleeve
Yeah
It wasn't that bad
It just wasn't that good
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Speaking of commentaries do, Brian,
Lonnie is
starting to tell me
he's getting anxious, man.
Yeah, I don't know how I feel
about this Lonnie guy.
Tell that guy that both fuck himself.
For what movie?
Some singing and dancing movie, probably.
You ever seen The Forbidden Zone?
Fucking Charlie Chaplin, some shit.
No, it's the Forbidden Zone.
by the famous
Richard Elfman
Brother to Danny
With Frank Drebbin
I think so man
I don't know dude
you've got to check it out
tattoo is in it
from the original
tattoo from the real fantasy island
is in it the real tattoo
was there a tattoo in that
remake whatever that was
Yeah, the Asian dude at the end, he revealed he has a tattoo that says tattoo.
Oh, yeah.
That's not the same thing.
That's not the same thing.
Get the fuck out of here.
That's not tattoo.
That's a piece.
I'm tattoo too.
All right.
That was bad.
On to our featured attractions.
This week, the James.
Juan directed malignant.
Yes.
Also, we get back to
1982 for Dario Argento's
I don't even know how to say the fucking word of this.
Tenibre.
Tenibre. Tenebri.
All right.
So we're going to start out with Tenibre.
An American writer in Rome
is stalked and harassed by a serial
killer who is murdering everyone
associated with his work on his latest
book. Director and writer is, of course,
Dario Argento, also known for Deep Red, Dracula 3D, and many, many other things.
In Germany, this film is still banned after 25 years.
What?
Maybe then it was something we don't.
That doesn't even make any sense anymore at this point.
Yeah, it's silly.
You see worse than that in fucking commercials for kid shows.
I know.
The trailies or commercially you sent to.
was kind of frightening.
A little fucking toy robot.
That moxie thing?
Have you guys seen the fucking commercial for this thing?
Yeah, I watched it when you sent.
Man, I would tell my kid to get the fuck up and go make some friends.
Stop fucking talking to this damn robot.
It's an AI robot for your kids that is like legit AI and talks to them.
It's the beginning of Chucky, for sure.
Our mission today is we're going to tell our friends how.
how we feel.
Freeping it's shit, man.
And the parents
are just standing there just kind of like,
oh, this is nice.
No, I'm looking at the fucking commercial
and go, just look it up on YouTube.
Moxie AI or something.
I don't know.
Moxie commercial.
Yeah, Lance just replaced the,
the Chucky body with just kind of like a toy robot
body.
Same fucking thing.
Which almost makes it creepier.
And it looks like the beginning to a horror movie, but it's a real fucking thing.
Like Teddy Ruxman or what?
Well, at least you could say Teddy is, I guess, cute looking before he kills you.
Until you put a Nazi tape in that bitch, then it sounds awesome.
No, this thing is legitimately scary.
Also very cool.
So, yeah?
You know what's going to be the end?
What's that?
You take the Moxie.
That's what it's called, right, moxie.
Yeah.
You take that robot and then you apply, what's his name's technology to it?
Chucky?
No, the Tesla guy.
Oh, no.
Elon Musk.
That'll be the end of us.
There's some sort of AI robot dog that you can buy, too.
I went off the deep end of stuff.
Yeah, when I hear that.
picture black mirror
that episode.
Well, this one is a little bit cute at least.
Although they do have some scary looking
like, you know, murder robots
that's in there somewhere.
But like there's a pretty cute looking little robot dog
that is just straight AI.
That's how they trick you though.
This stuff is,
this stuff is coming faster than we fucking
may think it is.
It's like, uh...
I don't think we're ready for it, man.
That will.
Smith movie with I Robot. I love that.
We're not. Elon Musk is also trying
to train fucking monkeys
to play chess, planet of
apes. Permanator.
I am watching
the new documentary on
Netflix that he's in where he's sending
four like
regular people to space. You guys heard
about this yet? Yeah, and then it comes back
like that movie species where they bring an
alien back.
Damn it, Elon. I think it's the end game.
It's going to be
Awesome. Whatever it is, I'm on board, man. Let's do this shit.
He's got to cause a combination of species, the planet of the apes, and Terminator.
All it was.
Roll the dice and jump in, man. There's no fucking stopping it now.
Not a single one of these four people that he's sending up to space or astronauts.
Oh, even better.
They just like won a lottery to go up there.
And never come back.
Oh, a beautiful roller costa. Ha ha ha. He should be fun.
All right.
All right.
So still bad to Germany.
Christopher Walken was considered for the lead role in this movie.
Huh.
Might have been better.
For the author?
Yeah, I think so.
How different would that have been?
Pretty different, man.
I don't know.
Picked in my mind.
Nicholas Cage.
Nicholas Cage.
Book.
that I wrote.
I can't even do it with that left.
All right.
I'm sorry.
That's great,
man.
That's pretty good.
It wasn't.
I'll stop.
I'm going to need more whiskey.
All right.
Brian,
what did you think about Tenebrae?
I'm not real versed in the jalo's.
Jallos or how we pronounce it.
As you can tell,
I don't know how to pronounce it correctly.
But I'm starting to try to get into
and for the most part
I kind of enjoyed this one
it was different than anything
I really watched
the acting was okay
but what really kind of sealed it
for me was some of the kills
because they were especially when you get to the
the kills with the acts
were really fucking violent
and they were kind of they were going for it too
like I kind of appreciated that
And the music kind of, I don't know, at first took me out of it because it didn't seem to fit the movie.
But after a while, I kind of got used to it, which I'll bring up in Tenebra, or not Tenebra, malignant.
Okay.
It was good to see John Saxon in there, rest in peace.
I wish he kind of had a bigger role in it, but he didn't.
the women were beautiful
uh...
Lance insert stupid
people sounded right here
if a fucking
dog is
fucking barking at you viciously
don't pick up a stick and try to jab at the fence
you have fucking idiot
AJ said the same exact thing
when we were watching it
like what the fuck is she doing?
I didn't feel bad for
when that dog climbed that fence
and jumped over I was like that's what you fucking get
you want to antagonize me
motherfucker
and that dog was
determined too
to get her
oh shit
except that when he was
attacking
you could tell that he was
just kind of jumping up
and playing
yeah I'll just
softly put my mouth on you
but overall
I enjoyed the story
I kind of figured out
the end of it
before it happened
which
I don't usually do
that that quickly.
So that was, I guess,
kind of a
not a good thing
for the movie
for me to figure it out
because I don't usually,
I'm not AJ.
I don't usually just figure out.
Yes, exactly.
Yeah.
But overall,
I think after watching this,
I'm going to start
kind of dipping
in the Jallo films
a little bit more.
I had some fun with this one.
Yeah.
I didn't hate it.
And the blood was bright red.
No, that's Jallo.
What the Jello pudding?
Jellup pudding.
Lance, what did you think about it?
Oh, man, so this is Jallo, huh?
Yeah.
Ah, don't act like you don't know.
Real, real quick.
Real quick, Jalo is an Italian term designating mystery, fiction, and thrillers.
The word Jalo is Italian for yellow.
The term derives from a series of cheap paperback mystery and crime thriller novels in yellow covers that are popular in Italy.
Okay, so like murder mystery.
Yeah.
I gotcha.
That makes sense.
Kind of like Stephen King does his like hard case series of books.
Yeah.
It's more of a crime story, I guess.
So this is Jalho.
You know, something I'm kind of,
as you said, Brian, we're dipping our toe into it here.
You said you're going to go into the pool.
I'm going to, I'm going to jump out of the pool and run over toward the hot tub as quick as I can because this is not my cup of tea at all.
Too fucking cold.
Did not, yeah, did not care for this in the least.
I thought that the acting was incredibly subpar.
There were times when I couldn't even figure out, I honestly thought, are they like speaking in Italian?
this is dubbed, but then, you know, you look at the lips and see that, no, they're actually
speaking in English.
I thought that, um, well, it sounds, it sounds dubbed, but then.
It sounds dubbed.
John Saxon sounds, Italian.
John Saxon looks dubbed, but it's his voice.
Right.
Well, John Saxon is criminally underused in this movie.
Um, you know, I mean, are, are there.
I think some of them are, some of them are speaking English and some of them are speaking Italian.
I think you're right.
No, I think that's quite possible.
And anytime they opened a book or something,
I noticed the, you know, the words were in Italian,
but I don't know, man, this, to me,
this was just a big, just a big flop.
Didn't really care for a thing about it.
I mean, as you were saying, the women are beautiful.
Yes.
There is no doubt that, and I'm sure that that's part of what this whole movement is, right?
You know, women in peril and, you know,
it just seemed like all the women were really just like
there to be looked at
they were just victim I ain't gonna lie I appreciate it
like some of them not knowing how to wear a towel
that is very true
or you know a bra
completely objectively objectified I thought
to the point where like this is just fucking silly
you know and I don't know if it's the Italian culture
or you know the European culture
or whatever, and the fact that this was made in, what, 82,
which was a long time ago.
I mean, for fuck's sake, there were people smoking in hospitals and airports and shit
like that in the movie.
So you could tell it was made quite a while ago, but, um,
have a thing to smoke around my newborn child.
I was, I was completely unimpressed with this.
I was, I was expecting that I was really going to enjoy it, um,
because I've always heard of Jallo movies and God, God bless our,
friends at the horror mafia, Don
loves these kind of movies and several other
people do and there's, I mean,
it's a big subculture, man. There's a lot of
people that just really love these, but
not my cup
of tea, man. Just not,
not something that
that I really enjoyed and I just kind of
would, hour and 40
minutes, to me, it felt like it was two and a half
hours, like it was just never going to end.
And you get that goofy
fucking blonde kid that looked like he
was like, you know, one
one of the guys walking around in a caddy shack or something like that.
I have a question about that guy.
I got a lot of questions about that guy.
Was he the one of the motorcycle that just dropped her off in the middle of fucking nowhere?
Yeah, he was.
That guy that didn't even fucking answer her when she was like, what are you doing?
Yeah.
Like, what happened there?
Yeah, I found this to be super weak.
I don't know if Dario Gento has done a lot better movies than this,
or movies that I would like more than this one.
one, maybe I was just,
maybe I just wasn't in the mood
for this. I wanted to get on to the main
event, I guess, but
not my cup of the...
Saria did Susperia.
Yeah. I love Susperia.
You know,
that was a great movie. So
I'll give it a chance.
I'll, I'll check
out some more Argento movies,
but this one, to me, just didn't
do it.
What's her name?
His daughter?
Asia?
Yeah.
The one that,
allegedly, she's a rapist, right?
Allegedly.
Huh?
I know.
That's what I thought, too.
From what I understand, she didn't know.
Who did she rape?
Was it a man?
She didn't rape.
A young, they were, they were, he was young.
Yeah.
I can get a look out of here with that.
Let's live in reality, okay?
Okay.
This movie
This movie reminded me
of all the worst parts of a porno.
It was acted like a porno.
It was filmed like a porno.
It was set up like a porno.
Every single scene looked like you were about to get a big payoff
in a porno.
I don't hear anything bad about that.
But there was no hardcore sex.
Yeah.
Then we wouldn't be reviewing it then.
It would be a porno.
Don't totally disagree with you.
Yeah, not because...
I mean, when...
The chick was on the beach and like four guys stood around her like she was at cock level.
I was really wondering, where's this going?
Well, it was going to go somewhere, but that guy came up and slapped the shit out of her.
Right.
It went from a porno to a snuff film.
And then she told her boys to get them.
And they did.
Oh, yeah, yeah.
Because she was touching their weeners.
Yeah, man, I kind of agree with you on that.
This one sort of lost me about three quarters of the way through.
Like, I'm trying to stick with it, man.
And I think that there's something there.
I kind of want to rewatch it.
You just kind of have to be in the mood for that Gialo thing.
And I'm going to be honest with you, when we were doing Gialo Week or whatever,
and I was watching just looking at, I don't think I'd seen any actual
previews to malignant. I just saw
the poster
and that it
was like a Gialo and I'm like
oh man, I don't know
if I want to do this this week.
And
so Tenebrae
Tenebray built into that
and it was not
great. It's
does seven count is a Gialo?
I don't know what counts this.
I mean, if we're going to go with that? I don't know.
Well, we don't know Jallo's.
Yeah.
David Fentcher's kind of in a class by himself, frankly.
Seems pretty horror, murder, thriller, but with like...
I guess so.
But with, like, more horror and bright red blood is the only thing that I ever equate to Jello.
It wasn't a terrible movie.
I mean, there were beautiful women to look at, however, they were obviously objectified,
although it was 1982, so different strokes for different folks, different times.
I thought it was just kind of okay.
I sort of crashed at the end of it.
I'm not sure what happened to be honest with you.
This one, it didn't really grab me.
You missed the big orgy at the swimming pool, huh?
Yeah.
Well, and I, you know, I wouldn't.
doubt that that shit would happen
because some of the other scenes,
they're so fucking off the wall and weird.
Like it's,
it's like baby A-24, you know?
Yeah, I guess.
I guess.
I just got so mad that John Saxon was so, again,
criminally underused.
Yeah.
He said that had a much bigger role.
So he should have did more than show that his hat wouldn't come off his head.
Exactly.
It was a cool hat.
Look what I can do is my head.
My hat won't come off.
Aye.
Boy.
Last time I saw this was in 1982, and I didn't rewatch it, so.
But I don't remember any of it at all.
You don't remember 40 fucking years ago?
No.
I only sit at the one time.
Was that 40 years ago?
Holy shit.
We're getting fucking old.
I'll be 50 on Friday.
Oh, man, congratulations.
This film came out the year I was born.
I was kicking out, too.
But, yeah, I don't remember this movie at all.
I do like the Jalo films.
Yeah?
The shows, the Bavas, and all the other dudes that make these crazy bright red blood films.
But I'll definitely rewatch it again.
Yeah, again, I don't remember.
I totally forgot John Sacks.
was in it.
I don't know.
I don't remember it at all.
So I can't give you much of a review of it.
But I'll check it out.
Yeah.
He didn't really do much except look pretty cool with that.
All right.
Scores, Brian.
Give it a seven.
Wow.
I said, I just had fun with, I'm into the murder mysteries.
I had fun with it.
some of the kills were pretty good
goodish
my favorite's the one with the axe
where the chick's sitting there
and then he just bust through the window and chops
her arm off
but there was an axe kill where he
like literally slices into the stomach
and it just like
oh yeah bounces off
I mean
I don't know I just I had fun
with it. Maybe I was just in a good mood when I watched it.
Yeah. That's always a good thing.
Yeah.
Tadabray. Seven.
All right. Seven. Wow. That's more than more expected.
Lance? I'm going to go two on this one.
That hurts.
This is rough, man. I had trouble getting through it, man. I got to be honest with you.
And it didn't help that it kept teasing me. And I really thought I'd stumbled upon
U-Porn and
AJ was in there watching it with me
so I thought I'm gonna get lucky
because I know where this scene's going
and then it didn't go there
and it was like wow
wow
the one in the towel
was pretty fucking amazing though
oh man
I didn't get her whole story
that was the problem dude
none of it made sense to me man
and then
as soon as she died they showed the hook
and I was like, is that not the same girl?
Well, I didn't understand her and the roommate.
Yeah.
Because it's clearly she seemed like she was a working girl.
But then when she got home and her, I guess, friend or roommate was done, all of a sudden, it was like, you fucking whore.
I was like, didn't you know that from the beginning?
Yeah, exactly.
That is exactly what I am.
Thank you.
I like how she was listening to the music of the movie on her record player
Yeah
The film video game music
It sounded like a boss fight and Mega Man
Yeah right
Maybe that's what kept me going through the movie
Every time they played that music I was kind of
I was motivated
I thought you were going to have a rocky montage huh
Well we did get that music playing when he was riding his bike to the airport
This montage is way too long.
We got to hurry it up.
Did he valet his bike?
Did he valet his bike or something?
I guess, but how did you get this to seven, dude?
Even you're shitting all over it.
Because I had fun with it.
Wow.
It was a little wild.
Wait till we watched the Forbidden Zone.
And there were lots of boobies.
You're going to love Forbidden Zone.
Oh, yeah.
was a lot of
booms in this one. And they were
and they look natural
boobies. Uh huh? Yep. Yep. I mean, 82.
Yeah. Hey.
Cream of the crop.
Oh, that's what my wife said. My wife
in the one scene she said, wow, she has really nice breast. And I said,
yes, she does.
I think we all agree.
I agree with you.
All right.
I'm going to give it a
I can't give it more than a five
I can't give it more than a five
That's fair
Citterous man
Yeah
No well just because I fell asleep at the end
However
The boobies kept me interested
So there's that
Um
I mean
That dog chase scene you had to admit
It was kind of fucking hilarious
It was got funny
It was okay
And it leads me into another story
I got bit by a fucking big-ass pit bull this week.
Yeah.
He just nipped my finger.
Did it happen when the dog was on the other side of the fence and you picked up a stick and started jabbing it?
No, I had been trying to be his friend all fucking day.
And he was a whole lot of bark and no bite.
He was just a big, he was a giant puppy.
But he looked like the dog from John Wick.
Right.
But he wasn't as nice as the dog from John Wick.
Obviously not.
He kept barking at.
Hope you didn't kill the dog when he'd get you, Phil.
Geez.
No, I was super, I was chill with him.
I actually had him where I could pet him there for a minute.
And then every time I walked back in the fucking room, he forgot who I was.
I'm like, this dog is mentally challenged.
That's your problem.
That happens.
That happens.
And he just jumped up and nipped my finger when I was in the middle of talking to his mama.
And that's the only time that he got upset, as if his mom was in the room.
Understandable.
Yeah.
If she's not in the room and it's just me and him, he was fine.
Didn't bark, nothing.
So as mama walks in, now we have a problem.
And it was just a nip.
Like, didn't, didn't like part of stitches or anything like that.
No, no, no.
It broke the skin, but just barely.
And it was just in my finger.
It wasn't like a big deal.
But giant pit bull, giant pit bull baby.
It's probably playing with you, really.
No, he was mad.
He just, he caught me while I wasn't looking at him.
Son of a bitch.
But then I had another one the week before.
Dogs are not that fucking hard to handle.
I had a giant pit bull run down the, because I walked into this guy's gate and he lives on stilts, right?
I guess he didn't realize that I was going to be there when I got there.
So I walked in the gate downstairs, close it behind me.
Giant Pitbull comes charging down the stairs and barking, and this was not a puppy.
And he meant fucking business.
So I put my hand on his head to make sure he couldn't fucking bite me.
And by the end of that, we were super cool.
Just for the listeners, you said you were on stilts?
A house on stilts.
Oh, I thought you said, you were on the beach, Brian.
Not like a clown like a clown.
Okay.
I walk around like that sometimes, you know.
I just wanted to clarify.
No, no.
Yeah, I live on the beach.
A lot of the houses are on stilts, which is why the people are bad here.
But not you.
No, not on stilts.
I don't do stilts.
I am a dog person, though, so that worked out.
That was a long story to say that this movie is a five.
There you go.
Kevin?
I think Kevin will be back.
Oh, no, Kevin left.
He was here, and then he was God.
Oh, well.
All right.
Well, let's move on to malignant then.
This one ought to be interesting.
Madison is paralyzed by shocking visions of grizzly murders.
and her torment worsens as she discovers that these waking dreams are in fact terrifying realities.
Directors James Wan, also known for The Conjuring and Saw and producing a bunch of bullshit.
Writers are James Juan, Ingrid Bisu, and Akela Cooper.
And on October 24, 2019, James Wan clarified that this film is not based on his graphic.
novel, Malignant Man.
Well, that's good because that's the first thing that came to my head.
It wasn't.
It's definitely not a superhero film.
Malignant is an original filler not based off any existing IP.
Although, it could be.
Malignant was originally scheduled to be released in the United States on August 14th, 2020,
by Warner Brothers.
But due to COVID-19, the film was removed from the
release schedule in March 2020.
All right.
So, Brian, start us out on Malignant.
Okay.
This movie was well-acted.
It looked great.
I thought, I thought, for what it was, I wasn't expecting Oscar nominations and acting.
It looked great.
The atmosphere was right, especially shots of the house.
outside in the fog
I kind of added to the move
but I'll have to admit
through the first two acts
I was fucking completely bored
with this movie
I thought it was nothing
new
nothing I haven't seen but when that third act
hit
man was I all
aboard that third act
saved this movie for me
it turned into
I think me and
Ness were talking about it before
like a horror action
fucking I don't know
what the fuck was going on
and then the reveal
of what was going on
I like that
I like the look of it
don't want to spoil it
but yeah
like I said
I just thought this was another
fucking James Juan
kind of haunted
supernatural movie and I was kind of
over it
but when when that segment happened I was just like this is this is what I wanted this is this is what I needed to see just fucking off the wall crazy shit but I do have some questions when we get into spoilers there's some things that I didn't quite understand that maybe you guys caught or can explain but overall we can't talk about for sure yeah overall it was a decent movie that became a great third act for me not
I think that's a pretty good
statement. I like that.
What did you think?
You asking NAS?
Lance.
Uh, and NAS, you still with us?
Yeah, Mayor.
Oh, Lance is that.
All right, Lance, uh, Nez, real quick.
What's your score for, uh, oh, well, you shit, you haven't seen it in fucking 40 years.
Never mind.
What'd you, what'd you think of malignant, Nas?
Oh, man.
Yeah, I'm with you, Brian.
I was like, me and my son sat there and we were watching it at home.
And James Juan, yeah, he was hitting it out of the park in the beginning.
Did he hit it out of the park with that Fast and Furious movie?
No.
Did he hit it out of the park with Aquaman?
It was all right.
I mean, I did.
It was a triple.
It wasn't a home run.
Yeah, it was.
And everything that, just because.
his name is attached to something, isn't going to make it great.
Right.
Because the movies, his conjuring stuff that he didn't direct that he just produced, it was...
Sure, sure.
Okay.
Garbage, garbage, garbage.
That's the shit that pisses me off.
So I was just kind of like, okay, I'll just take it for what it is.
And yeah, it started out.
All right, this is just another scary ghost story.
And I like those type of stories.
And I know he can tell those stories.
story is good. I was just hoping that he can do
something that he hasn't done
yet with this ghost story.
So I was all in.
I jumped a few times
sitting there watching it and I mean, I was
in with the character and the dread of it
all. But when
that shit started at the end
or close to the end, I was like, what the
fuck is going on?
It got fucking wild,
didn't it? Oh my God.
I mean, I was in from the beginning.
I didn't get bored at all.
I was right in there.
I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't staring at my phone or anything.
I was, I was in.
So, but I just thought, uh, the payout was, was fucking awesome.
And I, I, I fucking loved this movie.
I thought it was hell of good.
So, I was all about it.
I knew it was coming, Philip.
I knew it was coming.
Yeah.
I knew a lot of people, a lot of people online were like, ah, movies dumb and stupid.
And I didn't like the end.
Why did he do?
that and I was like
man fuck you give me more
of that he definitely
tried something different right
you got to admit well
well I'll get to it in mind
Lance what do you think man
I'm a little bit torn on this one because
when I saw like probably the first
you know 20 minutes or so
and I was like okay so this is
what we're doing
we're actually we got
James Wine, behind the camera again.
We've got an absolutely
gorgeously filmed movie.
Almost a technically perfect film.
As far as the precision, the way that the scenes are filmed,
I love the special effects,
and this is not a spoiler because it's in the trailer,
but like when the reality started shifting
and like, you know, wobbling,
kind of like, I don't know how you to describe it.
Helting.
Kind of like an acid trip.
Yeah, it was.
It was like the walls would melt away.
Absolutely.
And I thought that was just amazingly done.
The way that they filmed the outsides of the building,
the way that he built the, you know,
he built up the suspense in this movie by showing like the fog in the background,
and you've got the asylum or whatever,
the laboratory at the beginning of the way that was filmed.
And then you got the house,
which obviously looks like your common haunted house.
house. And then you got this
you know, this lady who's
trapped, very
much trapped in a relationship
that she can't get out of. Plus,
she's pregnant on top of everything
else. Spoiler.
And then, no, that's not
a story. Wasn't that in the trailer?
I don't know.
It was in the very beginning of the movie.
It was a joke.
Don't go too far with it.
Yeah. It didn't ruin the movie.
You got to be really careful, because this
this movie takes like three or four left turns and then a right turn and then
two left turns and then seven right turns and then goes and then hits that motherfucker into left
field dude it's it it's crazy and he's done some stuff in this movie that I've never seen done before
and that's that's hard to do these days with as many horror movies as there are so uh Brian
nailed it when he said the first two acts were kind of like a you know like a gothic
um traditional horror movie and then the third act just
went bat shit crazy.
It's probably going to end up in my top 10.
It probably is, if nothing else,
just the way that it was filmed.
I do have some serious problems
and some serious questions
about that third act,
but that being said,
for him to accomplish what he was going to accomplish
and literally do something no horror film
has ever done before that I've seen anyway,
it's worth it to have.
have a few things kind of open-ended for me and not totally explained.
So this was a good time at the movies for me, man.
And I really wanted to go to the movie theater to see it.
I had way too much going on, having just come back from being out of town for a week
and a half, so I didn't get the chance.
But, man, I'm telling you, dude, that HBO Max, man, they are hitting it out of the park.
Yep.
And this was definitely a 4K because it was beautiful to watch this thing, man.
It just almost felt like stuff was jumping out at the screen when I was watching it.
And I thought all of the acting was fine.
I didn't think there was any real, you know, standout, you know, outstanding.
Well, you know, hey, this person's going to get an Oscar or whatever.
But everybody did their part.
Nope, nobody dropped the ball.
And...
Spoiler alert, there will be no Oscar nods for this movie.
Especially not for acting.
I mean, maybe for set design or some shit like that.
But you know what? They did okay.
They did their job.
They punched...
You know what?
I'll equate it to you.
The actors in this movie walked in.
They punched the clock.
They put in their good eight hours.
And then they punched their clock.
It went home.
And that was sort of the style of the movie was the little...
Like, the acting wasn't fucking great.
It was kind of silly most of the time.
But that's sort of the style that he had going.
It was on purpose.
I just think that it was...
It was a visual masterpiece.
I think the sound mixing and the sound editing was phenomenal.
I think some of the dialogue was on purpose, though, because some of it was cheesy.
I can see that.
Yeah, some of it was really fucking stupid cheesy.
Not the room stupid.
Not that bad.
No, no, no.
No.
I liked it.
It's going to be up there.
It's going to be a top ten, a lower top ten or an honorable mention.
Yeah.
He knew what he was going to make.
So, I mean, like with the dialogue and everything.
So he probably told him, look, this is what we're doing.
This is how I want you to say your dialogue.
So that's how I took it all.
I mean, I especially like the actress that was written for Wanda Sykes.
I mean, I took it.
I mean, the cinematography, the thing that I loved was all the upper.
camera shot going down.
Oh, great at that, isn't he?
Yeah. Oh, my God. That was
awesome. I loved how he did.
Nez, it's not the same.
I looked it up. It's not the same cinematographer
who did The Conjuring 1 and 2,
but there were a lot of the same types of
shots in it. So I think
James Wan kind of took over on some of that stuff.
Oh, yeah. Dude, like, cinematography
wise, this is the best thing
that he's done. It was fucking amazing.
Like, some of the, some of the
shots were you like, spun,
the camera out and stuff like that,
like, it was just, it was visually
very fucking appealing.
This was a great movie cinematography-wise.
I mean, I thought a shot.
This isn't a spoiler.
This was in a trailer.
That scene when the dude,
her boyfriend, when he
goes into the, he was in the kitchen
and he hears something, and then when
he comes back into the living room and that
thing or whatever is sitting there or standing there,
by the TV.
I love how his camera work,
how it swung.
It was like a wide shot.
And down the hall,
and you were in the living room,
seeing that guy or whatever it was sitting there.
And then when the lights came on,
it was gone.
I like those type of stuff.
So when it was doing all that,
I was like,
okay,
he's just giving us another ghost story.
And I loved how he filmed that.
I thought it was good.
He's got a good vision
for what he has done so far.
I really loved
when the rooms, obviously, whoever the actor was
was sitting in a green screen
or something and they added the press.
I liked that.
I think that was a...
I took that as just like
kind of like a mind fuck.
Yeah.
Are you really in this room or what?
Because it seemed like
every time that happened, they show this some trailer.
when they show it and it's like she's she's there but then she's not there
yes yes yes yes uh act with or um can't deal with whoever else is in in the scene so i thought
that was cool so i know it was i had to do something uh with her mind and everything so i loved
all that um the jump scares there wasn't a lot but the little ones that they did have in there
uh were cool i mean the one that got me
it's not really that big of a scare,
but when she was upstairs in a room
and she was like looking in the mirror,
I was waiting for something to happen.
And when she starts to walk and her friends
looking in the window,
because she was doing that part,
I think I jumped the most during that.
I wasn't ready for it.
I was looking more at the mirror.
But I thought everything in this was awesome.
I mean,
the special effects,
the practical effects,
were awesome. The sound was good. Cinematography. The score, I loved what was going on. I mean, he really
knows what he's doing, and whoever scored the film with him, did an amazing job because I watched it
twice, and I loved how the back score fit in with what was being shown on the screen. So,
I just thought this movie was just badass from beginning to end.
yeah right on man
like technically speaking
it was like a master class in
filmmaking right
yeah
yeah
so we might have lost
we might have lost Philip
because he's got a literally
the hurricane is now is just now
hitting I'm looking on the map
it's hitting his house
literally
he's on the edge of the hurricane
everybody else has talked about
Phillip?
I think he talked about it.
Did he?
Yeah.
You want to wait for him or should we, should we dive into scores or do a quick little,
who scores?
Okay.
You'll do a five minute break and see if he comes back or what?
I don't know.
I don't have fun.
All right.
Let's just jump into scores.
All right.
We can splice it together.
I don't know.
who went first?
I think for me,
I agree with everything
you guys said as far
as cinematography and
score and everything,
special effects, practical effects.
But if
it wasn't for that final third
act, this would have just been a run-of-the-mill
James Wan movie.
Just because that third act,
I'm going to give it an eight
That's a good score man
Yeah
Sounds like a possible
Top 10 contender, huh?
Yeah, I mean, we'll see
We got a, like we talked about news
We got a lot coming out next month
So
Nez, are you giving it a 10?
Oh, you know it
Bad ass
It's all the way 10
I loved it
Oh man, I got to go 7.7.7
five.
It's going to brush
the top ten.
Man, some stuff
that we'll talk about on
spoilers took me out of it
at times, unfortunately,
but as far as like building up
the suspense,
you know, building up the shots,
the angles and stuff like that,
you know, it's close to
a ten. I mean, it's almost film-making
perfection, but
the acting and the story
count for a lot for me.
So I'm going 7.75.
So, you know, it'll be toward the bottom of my top 10
or absolutely definitely at least
honorable mention.
You back, Phil?
I'm back.
All right.
We've got a hurricane coming through.
I know.
We're going to try to power through this, man.
So we all gave our scores except you.
Yeah.
So, yeah, let me talk about malignant for a second.
I was trying to find a film to compare it to in the beginning,
and it just takes, you're right, so many left turns
that it just goes completely off the fucking rails.
Ghost talking to us.
Do I?
Hang on.
Give me two seconds.
Let me try to jump back in on the computer.
Is it going to Nicholas talking to us or what?
All right.
Hang on.
Give me two seconds.
Let me try to jump back on.
When it took that turn.
Oh, man.
It took a turn, man.
My son was all in.
He was like, what?
Oh, I'm sure.
Yeah.
All right.
I'm back on.
Nice.
You sound great, dude.
All right, good, good, good.
Yeah, no, and I, and, like, I wanted to not like this movie.
I don't know why.
It was just the whole Jello theme.
I was not excited about it.
That's totally jello.
And the gore.
The gore in this movie was amazing, by the way.
Yeah.
Like, I started watching it, and I kept trying to nitpick shit, and it just...
Didn't work, did it?
I mean, there was plenty of shit to nitpick, but at the end of the day, I was like, you know what?
Throw the fucking papers out the window.
This was a good fucking movie.
Yeah.
That's what it is.
Right?
God damn good time, man.
This thing was fucking wild.
and it goes, every time you think they're going to do something,
not only do they not do that,
but they like take it ten steps above what you thought they were going to do.
And it was like a whole bunch of different types of horror movies together, right?
Yeah, it really was.
It was like a body horror movie.
It was like a ghost story.
It was like a demon movie.
Like I wanted to throw out some movie.
You know what?
I'll wait until spoilers till we get to that piece.
To throw out some of the names of the movies that I thought that maybe it was like,
but it was always like, oh, it's this movie but like on crack or this movie but on acid.
You know, there were so many different things that they did.
And I thought it was, James Wan has got a fucking handle on this shit.
That guy makes some fucking movies.
like whether or not
their perfection
you know
it's not he's not
Steven Spielberg
but he can make a goddamn
entertaining movie
and I was very impressed
by this one
and especially in the third act
when it just went
totally off the fucking rails
and went
fucking crazy
because a lot of the movie was silly
but it still worked
mm-hmm
I was
I just I had
so much fun with it.
It was really great.
So I'm going to give this one.
I'm going to give this one a nine at least.
Wow. Okay.
It's going on somebody's list.
I had a really fucking good time with this movie.
And like, it's definitely going to end up on my top 10 list this year.
I'm excited about the top and bottom 10 list this year.
Yeah, it's starting to shape up for me too.
Psycho Gorman ain't leaving the top 10, though.
No, no matter what else I see.
For fucking sure. I've already got it written down.
This one's in there, too.
All right.
You're sticking around for spoilers, Naz?
Yeah.
All right.
Spoiler time.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
You've been fucking warned.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
You've been fucking warned.
This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.
You've been fucking warned.
All right.
So one of the movies that,
I wanted to say this is, are you guys still there?
Yep.
Okay, cool.
One of the movies that I wanted to say this was like at first,
um,
was it was like,
Drop dead Fred,
but I'm crack.
Drop dead Fred?
Yeah,
because it was like an imaginary thing coming back, right?
And I was like,
oh, is that what we're doing here?
And then no,
and then it turns into like the darker half,
you know?
Oh, okay.
I can see that.
Yeah?
Yeah.
And so, like, they did so many different things here to throw you off the trail of what was going to happen.
And, uh, I was just, I was really happy with all of it, man.
It was, uh, fucking bat shit crazy and very, very silly and stupid at some points, but it still worked.
You know what I mean?
It was like Quentin Tarantino doing horror, but not quite.
I thought it was just
when I started getting all crazy
and when you're seeing whatever it is,
it kind of remind me of
how Jigsaw looked with long hair
and I was waiting for a pig snap to come out
from behind that.
Oh, yeah.
But my son was like,
is it walking backwards?
And I was like, what?
And I had to rewind it for a minute.
And I was like,
I didn't catch that.
all to begin. I didn't either. He's the one that
said he goes, is it walking backwards?
And then I went, whoa, it is. So I don't know.
I was thinking it was some kind of
demon ghost or whatever that
it was haunting her for whatever
reason. Because it did start out like it was going to be like
a haunting type of thing. Yes,
it did. Yes, it was making the noise.
When the boyfriend was downstairs watching TV
and the blender came on and then
the TV was making noise
and all this.
I mean, even my son was like, he always says this when we watch these ghost story types of things.
Why did they always stay?
I don't know.
I can't tell you why.
Because as soon as I were fucking walking and the blender's going, fuck that out of it.
Yeah.
When shit that doesn't make sense starts happening.
Get the fuck out.
Well, a blender coming on is that could just be a short, you know, like an electrical short.
Like the blender was on and you didn't realize it.
No.
I mean, but it was like two months.
stuff in a row within a matter of minute.
Within a minute.
All right.
It was happening.
He didn't even like, it didn't even phase him.
Like he was scared or thinking.
He would just say, yeah, whatever.
Turned it off.
And then something else happened.
And then, all right, whatever.
But when he went back in the living room and he saw it sitting there on the couch.
And then when he turned the light on and it was gone,
fuck that.
I would have been out of there.
Out of there.
That's scared enough to jump in the car and drive away.
I have a problem with this scene.
Why is that?
It wasn't supernatural.
No?
I'm okay with that, though, because it did have a supernatural aspect.
I know, but when we get to reveal at the end of what is going on, how did this scene play out like it was a ghost sitting there getting off the cushion?
When I thought it was all in her head.
That's the only reason I can.
I mean, but...
Yeah, but she didn't see that.
He did.
The husband saw that.
But did that really happen, though?
Because she couldn't have done that.
Well, that was part of my question, too, is, like, obviously when it was running away from the cop, which I don't know why it was running away.
Right.
It was, like, you know, jumping down the firescape floor by floor, like some kind of parkour master.
That was bad ass.
And I was like, okay, well, obviously this thing is some kind of superhero sort of demon entity.
Aquaman.
And you know what?
I mean, maybe it still was.
But I think, again, though, the whole movie is a little bit silly.
So if you really start asking questions and picking the threads at the seams, then I imagine.
it's going to come apart.
Yeah, fair enough.
But again, beautifully filmed.
Fucking amazing.
Some of those shots were things that I have never seen before.
And like,
credit to James Juan, where it's fucking due, man.
He pulled that shit off.
It looked visually fucking...
Because the dread of...
I can't remember the young woman's name,
but the dread of her going through all that.
Madison?
Yeah, of her having a miscarriage because she was,
I guess she had like two or three miscarriages before that one.
I mean, that was sad.
At that part, I was still thinking,
is it some kind of supernatural ghost or whatever
that's just haunting her since she was a kid?
Because I've seen that they show in the trailer
when she's at the birthday party
and she's talking, what was it?
Gabriel.
Gabriel.
Yeah, Gabriel.
Oh, no, he's right here and all that.
See, I was thinking more of a ghost story.
I mean, the trailer was,
it was good, it was misleading,
and didn't give you any idea
of where it was going to go.
Because I didn't, I didn't see that coming.
Yeah, I agree.
So, I mean, because you're so convinced,
okay, it's some kind of supernatural spirit or whatever.
And all right, that's what we're going to go
with and I'm just going to sit there and enjoy it.
So that's how I was.
But when it fucking took that turn, when you find out who Gabriel is,
and it was actually kind of sad on who Gabriel was about her being born and basically
the two embryos growing together.
Oh, man, that was, that was, that was pretty sad.
Gabriel was like Danny DeVito.
Yeah.
Maybe it should have brought
any of the point.
It was like Quato
from Toto Rico.
Yeah, I love
the look of it,
especially when it came out
the back of her head at the end.
Yes.
That was gruesome, man.
Yeah.
And that was another part
where it got real silly
is towards the end there
where she started,
it starts like walking backwards
and killing everybody
with no problems.
Which was cool to watch, though.
It was silly, but it was still to watch.
It was silly, but it worked.
Yeah.
But going back to her miscarriages, that was crazy to find out that she miscarried all
them times because he was feeding off of them.
Yeah.
That's rough, man.
That's rough.
I like the practical effects of when you see him when he had arms.
Mm-hmm.
I thought that was cool.
I'm glad they didn't do the CG-I.
route. I mean, they easily could have.
Yeah. Easily could have, yeah.
I'm glad they went with the practical effects.
I thought that was neat. And the reveal,
when he came busting out of the back of her head,
I was like, oh, man, I was just,
I was naked.
And they mixed in some practical effects with the CGI,
and I think that it mostly worked.
It's hard to,
it's hard to make somebody walk backwards and kill people without
CTII.
Yeah, well, I think
we better be glad we got this movie, boys,
because the next film that James
One is set to direct is called
Aquaman and the Lost Kingdom.
What's wrong with that?
Come on.
I didn't hate the first one.
I kind of hated it.
It wasn't better than justly.
It was fun to watch in 3D in the theater,
but it was a total
popcorn canned.
Andy, worthless.
It just wasn't that great a movie, man.
Yeah, I mean, it wasn't James Wan's greatest accomplishment, for sure.
But it at least gave some sort of credibility to the DC universe,
because before that, they were like, man, how many times are these guys going to fuck up in a bro?
I guess it was better than watching the deep in his movie, right?
Like if Steve had his own movie.
Is Amber Heard in this one?
Yes.
Yeah.
The husband beat her.
Did she beat her husband?
Is that true?
Yeah, she beat the shit out of Johnny Jeff, man.
She's an asshole.
Right on.
Real power, man.
No, she's a bitch and a half, man.
I'm telling you, she's fucking crazy.
Yeah, kind of like Tony Catan.
Rest in peace.
Did she shit in his bed or something like that?
I don't know the specifics.
Yes, she was.
Allegedly.
Sorry.
But I know that she, like, tried to take him to court over some bullshit where he was abusive.
And turns out she's the fucking psycho.
Did she super glue his dick to his leg or anything like that?
No, but she literally, like, physically punched him many times and threw things at him.
Wow.
Yeah, she's a nodded.
If you can't, if, hey, if you can't hang, man.
You probably don't deserve her.
There's a crazy
Hyde Matrix for a reason.
I'm really amazed
that there's no stories
that have come out
about Galgado yet.
Oh, wow.
Yeah, she could probably
take somebody down, man.
Because she is too fucking gorgeous.
Right.
All right.
You guys, uh,
is that enough?
Uh,
spoilers or anything you'll
want to get off your chest?
Uh,
If you haven't watched this,
just watch this movie just for that
fucking jailhouse scene.
The whole thing is
worth watching. Just watch
it. Even if you don't like Gialo,
even if you don't like James Juan,
this movie is worth
watching. It's so fucking crazy.
It doesn't make sense.
This movie also had music that
kind of at first took me out.
Fucking Pixies, though.
The Pixies with the thing
that they were doing,
I loved it.
Like a little remake,
like orchestrated,
where is my mind that they did?
Was fucking amazing.
I loved it.
Yeah.
I like the biggest jail cell ever.
Yeah.
Also true.
They don't have individuals.
They just have one giant one.
Yeah, one giant drunk tank, right?
With a bunch of really mean bull dikes in it.
And one toilet.
That was fucked up, man.
You just, like, ran through all of them, and then fucking
Terminal style, all the cops.
Right.
Oh, my God.
Yeah, it was awesome, and I loved it, but then I was thinking,
why does this thing have superhuman strength?
Yes.
It's also...
Don't ask.
Was this had, what was the Spider-Man villain?
Electro?
Electric controls electricity?
or something. I mean,
I didn't, after that third act, I didn't give a fuck.
Yeah, I know.
Like, it gets, it gets ridiculous to try to even explain it.
But yeah, like, ridiculous superhuman hand-to-hand combat skills on a thing that has never
had legs longer than four inches is.
Okay.
Long story short.
Phillip,
let's do the anti-CBS
All-access right now, okay?
Folks, if you're not
paying for HBO Max yet,
go get it. Fair enough?
Yeah, I think so.
I think HBO Max has been
totally worth it because
they have some of these big movies that come
straight to it, and this one is worth
watching for sure. As
is the Justice League
Extended, go watch that. Yes,
yes. And you know what? They got some
damn good series.
HBO Max has some damn good
series as well.
So, all right.
We got ready for the Spranos thing.
Enough, enough sucking HBO Max's dick.
Nez, what's come, and Brian,
let's coming up on our other shows, man.
Action Returns, we just
dropped the suicide squad.
Next one we got is
1989.
Are you talking about
HBO Maxes?
The Suicide Squad?
Yes, which now you cannot watch it on HBO Max.
Oh, bitch.
It'll be back.
It'll be back.
We got 1989's Renegade starring Kiefer Sutherland and Lou Diamond Phillips coming in.
Oh, I have not seen that movie in fucking decades, man.
Stream Fiends, we're about to drop our Lady Bugs episode, Rodney Dangerfield.
Great fucking movie.
And after that, for Stream Fiends, we're about to drop.
we got Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder's
See No Evil, Hear No Evil.
Another great movie.
All right.
So maybe y'all can follow that up with a Silver Streak.
And what was the one where they dressed up as chicken?
Star Crazy.
That's right.
Gene Wilder and Richard Pryor, man.
You cannot get a better cast than that.
Well, next week we're going back into Cage Rage.
Is this part three or part four, Brian?
I'd lost count.
All right.
So we can only hope that
Beat and Marcy are going to join
us as we're going to tackle not the original
but the B's version of the Wicker Man.
Never seen it.
And the brand new
The Wicterman
with Nicholas Cage.
You're going in and out. The Wicker Man? Is that what you said?
Yeah, the Wicker Man.
Not the one with the Count
Duku?
No, no, no, no, no.
The Cage remake, man.
This is Cage Rage Week, dude.
All right.
Denise!
We're going to check out the brand new
Prisoners of the Ghostland,
which hopefully at least one of us
will be able to find at a local theater.
So, uh, uh,
Naz,
until the horror returns.
Good thing.
Good night.
