The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #278: Cage Rage: The Wicker Man (2006) & Prisoners Of The Ghostland (2021)

Episode Date: September 20, 2021

This week we are joined again by Bede Jermyn from The Super Network to Discuss the brand new Nic Cage movie Prisoners of the Ghostland as well as The Wicker Man remake. Cool of the week includes The Haunting of Hill House, The Sopranos, Kate, and Brand New Cherry Flavor. Trailers re Nightmare Alley and Paranormal Activity: Next of Kin. The podcast spotlight shines on The Tubi Tuesdays Podcast. Thanks for listening!

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Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. All right, welcome back one and all to the horror returns. I'm Lance. With me as always, my co-host, Brian and Philip. And tonight we've got our very special guest from Australia, because it is a cage rage week, courtesy of Brian. I think he's done about four or five of these now, Brian. Four or five, that sounds right. We can keep it going on.

He's got a lot of movies. I mean, he's got 15 of them a year. It's not going to stop. Terrible Australian B. What do you think? Should we keep going? Oh, definitely. I mean, if the cage is like, you know, dropping these movies, like, at least.

every two weeks throughout the year. You're going to have to, like, continue to talk about it on the show, especially if they're sort of horror or action or thriller-related, or even sci-fi as well. I don't even know what you would call most of his movies. They're just kind of in a class on their own. Exactly. Like, they're just Nicholas Cage movies.

They are basically what I would imagine would be going inside the mind of Nicholas Cage. So I like it. Babe, you guess, tell him. on lockdown or what? Yeah, well, yeah, we've been on lockdown since early August. And it probably will, and it's going to continue right until late October because we just got our roadmap for the next couple, for the next month. So hopefully by the time, because, you know, the Delta variant is just like all over the place

in Australia at the moment. And our city has kind of got hit hard by it. But not as bad as Sydney, because they've got like, like I think somewhere between 900 to a thousand like cases a day. So, oh. So, well, and it doesn't surprise me at all because that city was the one that kind of started it all anyway,

but that's a whole different story. But yeah, basically the main thing do is like if we can get at least 80% of our state double Vax, then we can get a lot more, like, eased on more restrictions than that. So that's why they're doing the roadmap for the next month. And then hopefully by early November, we hopefully might be back to some normalcy, hopefully. So we'll see how it goes. And I'm hoping that everything will be sooner rather than later because I really need a haircut and be in the dream really badly.

We'll sit at that many people get it every day. By then, everybody all have had it. Yeah, exactly. Right one way or the other. Well, I should be fine because I'm double-faxed now. so I'm prepared for like having a lot more perks than people who don't have them. All right, whatever works. All right, man, well, we're glad to have you back.

I guess we'll ask probably toward the end, but real quick, what do you guys have going on over there? Well, we have quite a lot going on over at the Super Network. You know, we're still dropping a lot of episodes of our shows every week, two shows a week, which is great. To be Tuesdays is our weekly show, which is we drop every Tuesday, Australia time, of course. So that's been a lot of fun. And hopefully our next episode will already has dropped by the time this episode of your show has,

and which we did the horror comedy, Hell Baby. So that's going to be our next episode of To be Tuesdays. I think I remember that one. And then we also have a new episode. of the our ozploitation podcast uh the osboy cast should be out later this week as well and then uh yeah we also have a ton of stuff coming up in october since it's the halloween season and we have a lot of great ideas for episodes coming up and including you know all the fan favorites as well so we'll definitely have a lot of good shit coming up very nice all right well um you know how it works man

you're the you're the guest so we're always going to ask you first man what's your your coolest thing that you've watched, read, um, gameed experience? What's your cool of the week? Um, well, I would definitely say,

like I've been watching a lot of stuff over the past, uh, week or so. So, uh, a lot of it has been for upcoming podcast. So I can tell you that for the next episode of the King's Zone, uh,

which we're going to do in a few weeks. We do it. The next episode is going to be on both the 1979 and 2004, versions of Salem's lot. So I've got to rewatch the old one and finally watch the new one as well. But I'll save my thoughts for those ones for that episode. But in terms of actual other things I can talk about, I actually have both a cool and a not so cool of the week. We love it. We love it. All right. To start off with the cool of the week, I finally got around to a show. I've been meeting to watch for a while now. And it's one that for some reason,

I only just started getting into it now. And mainly because, like, the creator of this show has a new show that's coming out in the next week on Netflix. So I finally checked out Mike Flanagan's The Haunting of Hillhouse. Ah, an oldie bit of goody, man. Indeed. But that's the thing. I'm a very slow TV watcher. So, like, by the time I get around to watching a show, it's already been around for, like, four, five years.

So I'm only free. episodes into the series, but I'm really digging a lot, and especially because I have very much aware of the sort of, you know, the 60s film adaptation, The Haunting and the 1999 version, so of the same story as well. So it's interesting kind of seeing like a different take on the Shirley Jackson book. So, and I'm really digging what Mike Flanagan is doing so far. And, uh, even though, like I said, I'm only three episodes in, uh, I'm definitely cute. to see where the rest of the series goes, but I'm hoping that least haven't done in time

before Midnight Mass drops on Netflix because I'm definitely very interested to watch that show. So that would definitely be my cool of the week. And my not-so-cooled the week is, since we're talking about Nick Cage and how he intends to drop like a million movies in one year, I saw a film from another actor

who does the exact same thing, Bruce Willis, with trauma set. center. Okay. He just keeps going downhill, though. I don't even know. Yeah, he does, man. I'm fascinated by Bruce Willis at the moment,

mainly because you watch him in all these VOD movies, and it's clear he does not give a shit about being in these movies. It really is. And from what I understand, he's, like, literally only there for, like, two days. And shoots all these scenes in two days and gets, like, a million dollars per day. And sometimes even in 24 hours, he'll shoot. all of his seats. And they so sporadically

put them all over the place. So a lot of these movies I've seen him, he just looks like he's like sleepwalking through these films. But trauma sets interesting because I have 110% convinced that he was drunk during the making of this movie because he's acting, he acted

like a drunk person throughout all of it. Even say words that any normal person would say correctly, it sounded like he was like slurring him up really bad. I don't think that was acting. I don't think it was acting. I think he just might have just got off the plane, had a few drinks on it, got on set,

and was like, oh, just give me the script and off of it. And then basically just did what he needed to do and just leave. Rolling down the hill so hard, the wheels fell off, and he's upside down and just keeps on going. Indeed. And the dude has like a billion movies coming out. I was looking at his IMDB page the other week, and he has like, throughout the rest of this year, has like four or five movies coming out the rest of this year. And he's already had like maybe five others out in the first eight months of this year alone.

Maybe Jimmy and Ashton took all his money. Exactly. Brian, you do an action podcast on our very network pretty much weekly, man. What's your opinion? What was the last good Bruce Willis movie? I got a look. We might be going way back. Six cents.

We might be going way back. I guess my question for all, I guess, the audience out there, what was the last Bruce Willis movie you saw in the cinema? Like one that actually was released in cinemas. I can think of two. I would have to say glass. Yeah, Glass and Death Wish. Those are the last two movies.

I can think of that he was actually... I did see Death question at theater. Oh, no. I saw it, but not the theater. Everybody told me it sucked, so I just didn't watch it. I think it was as bad as I was led to believe it was going to be. I mean, it's more average than anything, but it's not a patch on the Charles Bronson original. Right.

Trauma Center has Tito Ortiz. He's in it. Well, now calling in the big guns. It's old. And that's funny feed, too, because, like, what I'm interested in with these films that Bruce Willis is in, like, they pastor him on all the marketing as he's, like, he's the lead, but he's, like, legit, only a supporting player and some other rando B-grade actor is the lead, like, you know, Chad Michael Murray or Paul Thomas.

One of those fucks with three names. What's his name from Save by. the bill. Mark Paul Glazer. Screech? Or Kellyn Lutz and Jesse Medcapp, like those guys. Somebody that came from a WB show or some shit. Exactly. Exactly. All right. We get the picture.

Brian, you're going to jump in? Yeah, I can jump in. My cool of the week was sleep. That's all I got this week. I didn't watch. I didn't watch nothing. Wow! You heard it here first, folks. That's supposed to catch up on something. The first time ever. If I got to get something, I am rewatching or trying to rewatch.

I didn't really get a lot of it in The Sopranos for the upcoming movie. Good idea. I don't really need to rewatch it. I've seen it a million times over. Just trying to see if I catch some little things that they're going to bring up in a movie. Great show. Yes. Definitely counts.

Well, I had a definitely not cool this week in the whatever the name of that fucking hurricane is that came through. Oh, no. I know. No, no, no. That was New Orleans. What the fuck, dude? There's so many of them. I forgot who's who.

Was it Charles? Chachi? Jachie. I don't know what it was. Anyway. Errikate Chachi. It was supposed to be goddamn Jotchy. Every fucking time that kid.

It was supposed to be a tropical storm, and then it turned into a hurricane at the last minute, and ripped some shingles off the roof. We had some water coming in, so house is shaking. That's all fun. Unfortunately, also... The house is a rock and dump coming down.

Is it Ida? No, I can't remember. I was New Orleans, and then the one that stopped over New York and flooded all the subways for, like, a week. I typed in. hurricane and Ida, Peter, and Rose came up. Rose!

Hurricane Rose fell out. Well, she's always... I think it was technically a tropical storm until like the very last second. I don't know if they actually labeled it a hurricane or not, but it had Hurricane Forest Winds because it tore some shit up over here, man. There was trash cans and lawn furniture all in this fucking street. Unfortunately, it also killed our internet all week. So I hadn't had a chance to watch anything until like Friday.

But I did get a chance to catch the movies. And I watched Kate on Netflix. Ah, I've heard about it, man. With, yeah, Mary Elizabeth Winstead and Woody Haraldon. Right. So you can't go on. Chick from Birds of Prey. Yeah.

Yeah, no spoilers. Yeah. It's, I wish it was better. Oh, no. dude, this is supposed to be cool. Man, come on. It's not terrible. It's just not near as cool as it looks like it's going to be.

You know? So, that's, I guess that's about as far as I can go into it. But, uh, is it Hurricane Nicholas? Nicholas. Nicholas.

Charles, Nicholas. One of those fuckers. It was Hurricane that Nicholas Cage. There. There you go. It was just, This capery town It was like, oh Oh, the bees.

He hates the fucking roof, man. But yeah, that's the only thing I've gotten a chance to watch aside from our awesome Nicholas Cage movies, which I'm very excited to talk about. And very curious to see particularly what Bid thinks.

Good. Yes. Lance, you got anything? Is that it? Yep. I've got a strong cool of the week, but before I jump into my cool of the week, I do not have any not-so-cooled the weeks this week. So that's always a plus. But before I jump into my actual cool of the week, I've got to throw a little bit of love to I'm not the biggest, you know, Marvel comics movie guy. As you guys well know, I watch them all with you guys and I'm into it.

I follow all the storylines and watch all the shows, but that's just not really my bag. Kind of sounds like it is. I got to tell you right now, the new fucking Shang Chi just fucking blew my socks off, man. It was like my, it's probably my favorite story as far as just the story and the characters since Iron Man.

And that's going way back. You bite your goddamn dumb. I've heard a lot of people say, if you take out the Avenger movies, Shang Chi is top five. You know what? It's going to be in my top ten. At the end of the year...

Well, I can't say that for sure because there's a lot of good movies come out this year, but I really had a great time at the movie theater with this one, guys. Really, really wish that I'd waited an extra hour and 15 minutes and checked it out in IMAX.

But fuck, man. I loved it. All the characters were great. I love a movie where there's really no villain because you can totally understand the point of view of the quote-unquote villain. Yeah, I heard he was

real sympathetic. Oh my God, dude. I didn't know who to root for. I honestly didn't, man. It was that good. So, hats off, Marvel. Great movie. But my cool of the week, I am watching a probably

very little known TV show. I haven't heard a lot of people talk about this. It's on Netflix. Did not even know that it existed. It's only eight episodes and it's based on a novel and my understanding is that those eight episodes are going to be over

and then that's it, which I kind of like. You guys ever heard of something called brand new cherry flavor? Yes. I think one of our listeners was a background actor in it.

Huge fan. Huge fucking fan. This is, oh my God, this is a great show, man. And it's, it, the best part is that the first couple of episodes, I was iffy. And I always love it. I did not pull Pete MC and tap out after the first scene, like he does sometimes. And the first episode, I stuck with it.

And you started getting into the third, and you're like, huh, okay. I kind of see where this is going. And then you get to the fourth episode, and it goes completely bat shit, crazy. and what's her name is it Kathleen Kenner or? Catherine Keener. Oh, Catherine Keena, the one who was such a bitch in being John Malkovich, right?

And also get out as well. Oh, my God. Yes, she's amazing in this. Other than her, I don't really recognize a lot of the actors in it. Well, you got Rosa Salazar, who was in a leader in a leader of Battle Angel. was Alita actually, correct?

Didn't she, what was that bird box? Didn't she run away with the machine gun Kelly? Yeah, she was in that too. Well, there you go. Machine gun, Kelly? I had no idea. There you go.

And then it's got the one dude from the good place that played the, everybody thought he was a monk until they figured out he was just some stoner loser guy that was pretending to be a monk so he could get into heaven. Yeah, yeah,

Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, brand-n-hary. You play the card, you're dealt. Okay, so guys, eight episodes, they average about 40 minutes each. Check it out. It is well worth to watch. I'm being told that it's not going to go to a second and third season, so it's going to be a self-contained story. Yeah, it's supposed to be a limited series.

Yeah. Easy Cool of the week. Yeah, well, I've heard good things about it, and it has caught my interest as well, because I know it's from the creator of, channel zero, like the same guy who created that show, created the series as well. Okay, I had no idea. Yeah, and I think he's actually, well, he was a writer on Hannibal as well,

and I believe he might be writing episodes for the upcoming Chucky series as well. Okay, Brian, I think you're starting to know why I'm liking this. Yeah, he said the magic word, Bean. Yeah, and also I think he wrote Atlas, the new movie that's coming out very, soon as well. The one that's been put off for two years. Yeah, it's been put on for like for two years down. So by here, word of mouth that it's actually pretty good for people who would see

it. It looks like it's cool. The little kid and it's going to show up at the premiere with the fucking full gray beard. It's going to be 60 by the time that movie premieres. All right, Brian, we got any horror headlines, man? We have a few. we're going to start off with the Adams Family 2, the sequel to the animated movie,

skipping the theaters, coming to On Demand October 1st. Nice. My kids were talking about it, and I don't want to go watch it in the theater. I love the first. And more importantly, the grandkids love the first. And so it's going to be on the list for 31 days. Let's see.

Frank Grillo says he's coming back for another Purge movie. chance straight what happened in the final purge well they probably realize like yeah this one made money let's make one more but this time let's bring back

Frank Gorillo because everybody loves Frank Grillo and then that one's going to make money so they'll make one more I mean it's possible like $5 billion to make so of course they're going to keep making

poor didn't he die in the last one or am I think it was the president's bodyguard or the lady that became Oh, for fuck's sake. Maybe he'll be the president in this one then, huh? Exactly. Hey, you got my money.

Frank Grillo for president. Shutter announces L-Virus 40th anniversary, very scary, very special, special. It's coming to Shutter September 25th. Hell yeah. Yep, that sounds like fun.

I believe that's... Going strong, somehow still hot. Yes. I definitely will. I was going to say I still definitely do it. And also, I've had, I think I'd like to say the Joe Bob Briggs show, which for some reason it's like due to rights issues. It doesn't really air on us trying to here to Australia, but the L virus special will be airing here in Australia. So I'm excited to check that out for the. Very nice.

And finally, I guess this is the biggest news. Warner Brothers is developing a new, I guess, adaptation of the Lost Boys movie? I did hear this. What are we waiting for? I'm dangerous, man. I thought it was going to be a TV series or something. I think, yeah.

That's dead. It's not happening. That's when you know, like, they had a TV show is dead when they had to do the pilot twice over. Because it's... Yes. Because they shot it, it didn't work out well, and then they fired everyone, kept two, I think, one or two actors, and then reshot it.

And it was like, no, we're still not going to make this into a series. Let's just make it into a movie. Yeah, and they, a couple of actors that are attached to it is Noah Jupe. We'd last seen him in A Quiet Place, too. And Jaded Martel from the It movies, he played Bill. Huh. Little Bill or big bill? Well, that would be the fuck is his name.

James Vaccarole. Yeah, he's too old. Although, I mean, James Backeroy does look like he looks at least 12 years old of real life, to say. It's also true. He can play a hobby, huh? Exactly. I know, I know Nez already posted. It's not his lost boys.

but I'm fine with it. You know, we can end up getting an awesome movie out of it. If not, we still have the old one we can always go back to. Yeah. Warner Roots doesn't have the greatest track record right now. And this has got to be better than the sequels to the Lost Boys, so. You think so? Well, that's true.

Have you seen them? No, I didn't know. Nope. Nope. I have seen because I'm that person. I actually didn't mind the third one, but the same. second movie was really bad. Yeah.

And it just shows like, because Angus Sutherland, Kepa Sutherland's brother, plays the villain in that movie. And let's just say he was the odd one out in the Sutherland family who didn't get the acting gene. There's something about Kiefer Sutherland that I really enjoy. I have always liked that guy. Well, I'm kind of curious to see how this new one does. I'm definitely open to see like a new interpretation.

of the lost boys and especially with the talent they've got on both behind and in front, I mean, in front of the camera. Like, I'm kind of curious to see what they do. And with these two young actors, I'm kind of curious to see which characters are they going to play. Like, you can easily make them either David or Michael, depending, like, either one of these two actors could play either role. So I'm kind of curious to see which characters they play, or if they're going to be

entirely new characters. Are they going to be all emo? or are they still going to be like 80s? We shall see. That would be interesting. That would be very interesting. There'd be TikTokers. That's what they'll be.

Yeah. You know what? Damn it. God damn it. They've gotten to TikTok. This is in shit. Oh, my. Now that I say that,

I don't know if there's any point of a vampire being a TikTok because if they film stuff, not going to say them in the video because they'll be invisible I said no, it's going to happen. And they're going to be like, hey, this without social media. Man. Looking up a couple

Jonathan, I'm going to mess up your last name. Entwistle. He did that Netflix series, I'm not okay with this. Oh, okay. He is directing this. Well, doesn't that have to,

in actors in it as well Sophia So he's definitely like discussing like it actors in all of his projects. Sounds that way, huh? It'll be interesting. That is the news.

That is the news. So, uh, B, you're ready to go to the trailer park now? I'm ready to head down to the trailer park. All right. If that's, if you're ready, then Brian's going to bring us the big, the small, and the very, very weird. Brian, what's our first new trailer to talk about tonight, man?

Lance, you wanted it, you got it. Yeah? A new paranormal activity. I did not want it. Yes, you did. You said its name. It appeared as... It's like candy bear.

Paranormal activity next of kin. I would read you a synopsis, but the plot is being kept under wraps. Oh. Is that bad? I don't know. Maybe there is no story. The star is rolling. We can't tell you what it is.

It's secret. The stars Roland Buck the third. A. Lee Javier. Kylie Zion and Dan Lippert. I haven't heard of a single one of them. Which I'm fine with. I'm fine.

I'm always with introducing new, new actors and actresses. This is directed by William Eubank. Christopher Landon is back as writer. And, yeah, it was a little teaser, 30-second teaser, but

it looks like it's a whole new story, which I'm glad we're away from the, what was it, five, six, seven different movies in the original story. Okay. So now it's a different ghost. Yeah, well, I think that's, I'm definitely interested to see this one because actually,

I like most of the paranormal activity films, except for the last one, Ghost Dimension, because that one kind of shit the bed for the franchise. Kind of curious to see how this one does, but based on that 30-second trailer, it kind of looks like it's not going to be entirely done in found footage, like there's going to be seeds that are not shot in that style at all. And I think in a way, that's a good thing because, you know, A, it kind of fresions up the franchise and kind of takes a different approach to the story. Yeah, I agree with you.

And Lance, William Newbank directed underwater. I like that movie. That was on my top 10 last year or the year before, or whatever year it came out. Yeah. Yeah, that was the main thing in the trailer that I liked. It looked like we're going to switch from found footage to. to regular footage you look like with flashbacks and stuff like that. It didn't work very well for Blair Witch, guys, remember.

Yeah, well, that is true. But hopefully it ends up being better, though. I guess because this is that the way it's on Paramount Plus, so I guarantee you Philip won't pay to see it, but I will. Won't pay to see it. And it does kind of look interesting, though. They've got like a, you know, Nordic thing. happening.

So speaking of Wicker Man, which we're doing today. Shout out to Lars from Denmark. Yeah. A lot of weird Northern European horror movies coming out lately.

Yes. But it's interesting. You know, I guess if they're making money, they're just going to keep coming out with them. You guys are such fucking apologists.

It looks like fucking shit. I wouldn't say it looks like It's all the other ones I've never seen a paranormal activity movie in my opinion They suck I don't think I've ever seen a good Dane-de-Han movie About that

Tushay Tushie brother Too-shay My prediction Lance you'll watch this It'll be your number one film of the year That's a strong Because with these movies

A lot of what they do is just take scripts that have nothing to do with it and then make them into these movies. I know. I mean, it would be out of something else if it wasn't paranormal activity. They just slapped the name on it to get you to come watch it. Exactly. Great point.

All right. October 29th, Paramount Plus. Lance will be there at midnight. Jack, you're supposed to be premiering soon, the TV series. How long do we have to wait? I think that's October 15, is it? Yeah, I think so.

Still the ways away. God damn it. All right. Oh, he's back on again. I got to start watching that with our good buddy Stephen. What's on? We're the only two people in the world that still watch it. Oh, the walking dead.

The walking dead, yeah. I don't even know what that is. Stephen Loveland are literally the only two people that still watch it. Nobody else gives a shot. it anymore. You guys are the only ones I post Walking Dead News for. And we do appreciate it. All right. Our final trailer, we're finally getting it after much delay. Guillermo Del Toro's Nightmare Alley. This one does have a synopsis.

Does it? An ambitious carney with a talent for manipulating people with a well-chosen words, hooks up with a female psychiatrist who is even more dangerous than he is. This stars Kate Blanchette, Willem Defoe, Bradley Cooper, Mary Steenburgeon, Rooney Mara, Paul Anderson, Ron Perlman, Tony Collette, and so on. Tim Blake Nelson, throw him in there, he's always great. Directed by Guillermo Del Toro not produced. is also written by Guillermo. Okay.

B, what do you think? Well, before I say my thoughts, I just got to say this, there are two things in this world I'm scared of, nuclear war and carnies. Not particularly in that order. Exactly. And Cardi's because, you know, they have small heads and spell like cabbage, but that's a whole different story. But, yeah, the trial was okay.

To be honest, though, I'm kind of been a little bit underwhelmed by Guillermo DiOro over the last few years. I mean, I think Crimson Peak is a very underrated gem. But since Pan's Labriff, nothing he is directed has really kind of blown me away. I mean, I wasn't even the biggest fan of the shape of water. So that kind of says everything there. And this trailer, it looks visually, looks good, but it just didn't really sort of grab me. But I think with, you know, but I'm going to give.

give it a chance anyway, because it is Del Toro, and he's still a talented motherfucker. And also, when you have a cast like this assembled for a film, I mean, you're going to have to check it out because, I mean, it's not every day you have a cast as huge as this in a film like this one. And also the fact that what makes this one interesting is like this is going to be, I think, Del Toro's first film of his that has nothing to do with the supernatural. It's an entirely no horror, no fantasy. You could have fooled me from the trailer. Exactly.

But it's an entirely his sort of take on the film noir. So I'm definitely curious to see how it turns out. But at the same time, though, I'm kind of like, yeah, kind of a little bit sort of like a bit harmonium at the moment. But I'm definitely curious to see it. Yeah, I don't blame you. I mean, it is definitely a dream team. and Gieramot Datoro directing sounds like it should be awesome. The trailer definitely didn't exactly grab me.

But I'm curious to see how it is. I don't think it's going to be as good as I want it to be, though. Right. Lance? Yeah, I mean, so he did win an Oscar for the Shape of Water, and the shape of water had a very distinct look and feel to it. You know, a very particular time frame and very just look. You know what?

During this sex scene, if you know what I'm talking about. Exactly. You know, all right. No, I just kind of think he's trying to sort of recapture that a little bit here. Yeah. I think he really is. I think it's kind of not, I don't want to say rip off of his own. movie because how do you rip off your own movie but I'm saying that it's I think he's definitely

trying to go for that vibe again and I definitely got that feeling to it it's uh again like you guys said all-star cast there's no way any of us are going to you know miss this movie I'm I'm sure it's going to it's going to be a theater must watch uh no doubt about it um and bradley cooper's in it so the wife will go see it with me that's that's that's guaranteed too. So, I mean, we'll be there, but I'm just a little worried that he's getting a bit lazy. And he's just kind of sinking back into what got him an Oscar for that. He's going to try to kind of recreate it a little bit, you know? But yeah, I'll be there for sure. Well, what's the point if you can't get a trophy for it, right?

That's right. It's like baseball. Exactly. This one is due in the theaters December 17th, just in time for the holidays. Yeah, we'll be there. I guarantee you the wife will come with me with Bradley Cooper in it. Nobody's going for Ron Perlman? I'm going for Ron Perlman. He wasn't in the preview, was he?

Yeah, he was. He wasn't for like a split second. Yeah, you can't miss that face. He better be the beast. Yeah. I mean, like, it's, hey, it looked great, right? from a cinematography point of view, it looked beautiful. I mean, it's going to be a great film.

I'm worried that he's kind of resting on his laurels a little bit and going back to that time frame. And it's almost like it's the same setup where you got the good guy and the good girl that fall in love and then the evil older guy. I don't know. We'll see. We'll see.

Yeah, I guess for me, that's probably why I've been a bit underwhelmed because he's been doing the same kind of tropes for a while now. I guess, you know, that makes his work distinguish. And I'm like, you know, it's okay to kind of mix things up a little bit, dude. James Watson, for instance. Yeah, exactly. You know, but, you know, like I said, I'm curious to see how this one turns out.

I mean, I want to check out the original 40s film because this has been adapted before just to see how it compares. So, but even then, yeah, I'm definitely looking forward to a nightmare alley. All right. All right. That was the final trailer. Okay. Let's move on to some listener feedback. And this week, our podcast spotlight shines on, guess what, the Tooby Tuesdays podcast.

I've never heard of the show before, just say. Episode number 33 in particular. Electra Woman and Dinah Girl, 2016. Your host for Tooby Tuesdays, are Super Marcy, the terrible Australian Bede Jermine. Never heard of it. Who the fuck is I got it? And Professor Batch,

co-host of WebTales, a Spider-Man podcast. We'll take turns each week, picking a film to watch, and most of them will be ones we haven't seen before. Episode 33 brings back Super Marcy and Bede. Craven is holding Batch hostage, and he wasn't able to join us. however we did rope in a guest and ask them to pick this week's film we welcome step

t t bolts from the knack theater to mad to the madness of two tuesdays podcast and he has picked electoralman and dinah girl a web series made into a film and it is also a remake of a 70s tv show wow i don't think i've ever ever heard of it. Yeah, well, I've never even heard of the show either, but from what I understand the original show that the movie's based on it, I think it was made from the same people who created H.R. Puff and stuff. So, I watched, like, the opening credits for it, because Marcy sent it to me prior to watching the movie, and I was amazed. Really? Yes, it looked cheesy as hell, but the good kind of cheesy as hell. So, yeah.

It would be fair, you like some weird shit, though. That is true. I don't know. What could I say? But, yeah, it was a really fun episode, and Steve's a really good guest. And, yeah, I mean, To be Cheez-Aze is definitely always the highlight of my week to record. So definitely give everyone to listen to this episode. It's a lot of fun.

Gotta love bad movies. Exactly. And that's it for listener feedback this week. We're going to keep it short. Our show intro does come. from Steve Carlton, leave geeks. Artwork is from

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Yeah. may or may not be a steelbook. We'll figure it out. On to our featured attractions. This is going to be exciting. We go into another cage rage. That's going to be exciting, too. Cage rage.

It's becoming a thing, dude. Somehow beat, I think this is all your fault, man. I don't know where I get that idea. But it's not with Mandy and that it just filed from there. Yeah, I underappreciated Mandy the first time I saw it. Yes, I did too, until we were just fucking tripping balls out on shrooms. That's kind of how you have to watch that movie. It makes way more sense.

This week we're going to do the Wicker Man remake, as well as the brand new Prisoners of the Ghost Land, which I've heard incredible things about, so we'll see how that goes. We'll start with the Wicker Man, though. A sheriff investigating the disappearance of a young girl from a small island discovers there's a larger mystery to solve among the island's secretive neo pagan community. Was he a sheriff? That's what I was trying to figure out. I thought he was just like a cop.

Well, he was a police officer who basically retired and they got caught up in this whole thing. Oh, did he retire? Yeah, and he took the laws into his own hands. I didn't know he retired. I thought he was just like on leave or something. He was completely out of his jurisdiction. He's like, I'm a cop. I'm a cop you in here, dude.

And that was a little shout back to the original, though, right? When he originally got to the village and he was like, you know, I demand to be the authority here, and people were just kind of laughing at him. But it was done a little better in one of the two films, but we'll talk about that later. All right. director and writer is

Nick Labute. Also known for... That sounds like a Canadian for sure. It does. I don't even know. Maybe it's Labutee. I don't know. Which sounds even worse.

I think it is Labut, I think. At least from my phone. Also known for In the Company of Men. Well, that sounds sexy. Sounds like the polar opposite of this movie.

Robin Hart Hardy, a writer and director of the original film, and Christopher Lee, who played Summer Isle in the original film, were both critical of the remake. Surprise, surprise. Are you serious? Hardy had his name removed from the film's credits, as he did not wish to be associated with it. And Rhinoa Ryder turned down the role of Willow in this film as she hated the script. Okay, so maybe writing. All right, well, Wynonna Ryder turned it down because of the writing.

B, what did you think about the Wicker Man? All right, I should say, like, before going to my thoughts on The Wicter Man, that the original is a classic. Like, it's not for everyone, but it's, you know, a very interesting and unique sort of horror film that, you know, came out in the 70s, and it's a great film in its own right. The Nicholas Cage Wiccage Wiccah man is a classic as well, but for all the wrong reasons. This coming from the ultimate Nicholas Cage fan.

Exactly, exactly. So to me, watching this film, and I've seen it quite a few times, there is a reason why the Wicter Man is probably, without a doubt, one of the most memeable films of the past 15 years, because everything that happens in this movie is completely and utterly bizarre. It is. And you can tell that everyone is trying to give it their A-game, but the execution of it is just hilariously bad on every level. And I'll say this, Neil LeBueyne who wrote and directed the film.

He's actually a pretty solid filmmaker. Like, in The Company of Men is a good film. And, you know, he's done other films that are really good, like Nurse Vettie, that's a good one, and a few others as well. But when he was like attached to this film, like I was kind of like, oh, that's an interesting choice. Like he's never done a horror film before. I'll be curious to hear. I'm just curious to see what he would do with the material.

And there's a good reason why this film was made by somebody who's never seen a horror film. Oh, man. Like this film has like all the scares that he goes for end up becoming more laughably bad than scary. I did laugh at that time. at this movie? I mean, how many times can we have, like, jumps? There's like literally like 20 jump scares in the first 10 minutes of this movie. And also like bizarre moments where like Nichols-Kage is having flashbacks of this young girl

who died while, you know, on his watch. And then it's like, you see it getting run over by a bus multiple times. And of course, once Nicholas Cage gets to the island and him investigating, like what happened, this, and trying to find this young girl. Everything that Nicholas Cage does, like, you can tell he is absolutely 100% serious at all these scenes, but the scenes themselves just end up being laughably bad. And, like, there's a scene in particular that always gets me is, like, he sees one woman, and he literally pulls out and goes like, step away from the bike.

Oh, I love that scene. And he gets on the bike and just rides away. Oh, my God. And also, you know, he wears a band suit at one point and punches out a woman. Hey, it inspired Midsomar, dude. Exactly. He punches a few women in this. Oh, yeah.

He literally also karate kicks Lili Sobieski at some point, too. To be fair, the first one was bigger than he was. Exactly. Yeah, this is like the anti-Black Christmas, Philip. Exactly. And also like, and a part of it kind of wonders, like, if this movie, maybe on some level, Neil Lebutte wanted to make a comedy and this. I don't think so. Because there's no way you can read the script and see everything that's happening and think it's being serious.

No, I think there was being dead serious, dude. Well, that is true. That is true. This is definitely, to me, one of those bad movies that works as a perfect. fun, bad movie because, like I said, you can definitely tell they're all trying to going 110% with this story, but it's just the execution of it. It's just so poorly handled that it just makes you laugh. And of course, you know, you've got Nicholas Cage yelling things like, how to get burned, how to get burned, how to get burned. And also here being attacked, and also the bees are in my eyes. Ah, the bees are in my eyes. Yelling at the top of his

lugs like he's like trying to win an Oscar. And also like the funny thing is about this film and it surprises me is like Nicholas Cage made this film as a tribute to his late friend Johnny Ramon. Really? Because he was a huge fan of that of the film. I saw it at the end of the movie. I'm like, this movie dedicated to Johnny Ramon and I'm like, what? Yeah, because they were friends in real life and they love this movie.

and I think the Wicker Man remake had been in the works for a while and then of course Johnny died and then Nicholas Cage was just so determined to make the sort of like there are some interesting elements to it and I didn't think it was interesting that they kind of changed it making all the people on this island all women so there's definitely an interesting kind of sort of like a dynamic there because you got this one there who comes to this island and sort of the sort of the gender dynamics that is going on between this island full of woman and this one dude who basically has no respect to anything that is going on with on this island to start sorry to interrupt me where i got to know i got to know where did the man

have their tongues cut out not not of us spoke right i believe so i mean it's been a little yeah i got that impression but they never explained that yeah well pretty much the men were basically like the submissives in this, in this film. And I think that's an interesting thing about this film because Neil Lovu... It could have been done great, right? Yeah, yeah, exactly. And Neil Lerblu has done a lot of films where he explores those kinds of dynamics in films between men and women.

And it's usually handled pretty well, but here it just does it. And yeah, and there's a good reason, like I said, there's why this film, like this film, like, it is bad, but it is pretty fun to watch because of how bizarre it is. And of course, how it's like, of course, like I said before, like, it's probably one of the most mean films of the past, like, 15 years. Like, most of the Nicholas Cage gifts and memes you see out there are all from this movie. He's fucking wild in this thing, man. I'm glad to be weird.

Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, he's giving it a hundred and ten. percent. Like I said, it's definitely not a good movie at all, but it's an entertaining bad film. Yeah, let me go next. My favorite scene is the montage of him for seemingly no reason, just running from house to house and then like, kicking indoors, kicking indoors and taking masks off of children and screaming at people. and the only jump scare that really got me is when he punched that lady. I was like, whoa, where the fuck did that come from? Yeah, I'm going to agree with Bede on this one. This is the first time I've watched it. I've never seen this movie before.

Okay. Because I'd always heard it was so terribly bad. And because it's Nick Cage, I was sort of excited to watch it. And so I already knew it was going to suck. and so I just enjoyed the suck, you know? That sounded weird. It did sound weird now that I say that. But I'm going with it.

And yeah, I think that he was so fucking wild in this movie. He's the worst detective I've ever fucking seen in my life. He's terrible. Like every time he does something, I'm like, why is he doing that? It doesn't seem like that's. a very good idea. And then, of course, but he's not a detective. When the lady officer comes to visit him, she was like, are you going to go for detective?

Oh, yeah. Yeah, they even set it up, isn't they? I think he just skipped it and became detective. Maybe this was the detective test, and he failed miserably. Maybe he was in a, he was in an escape room the whole time. We just didn't know it. Well, he sucks at that too then Because this motherfucker can not put two and two together

He could definitely yell instructions to the other people Yeah, he knows that he's not get along with people and scream Right That's the big though Like he's doing all this detective way And if any of this stuff that happened in the story never happened He probably would have got fired from the police force at some point You think?

Yes Well, especially having hallucinations and shit That's probably not a good idea Exactly. But, yeah, I actually kind of enjoyed it for how bad it was. So there's that. Thank you, Nicholas Cage for saving this movie. If Nicholas Cage wasn't in it, how awful would it be?

Exactly. Lance, what do you think? I know what you think. Brian, what do you think? Oh, my boy. Nicholas Cage delivered the goods. He delivered exactly what I wanted him to do. Yeah.

It was a slow buildup to him going insane. B, you brought up my favorite scene when he commandeers that bicycle. And then him, I don't know how many times we had to see that little girl get run over by that truck, even though that's not what happened to her

in the beginning. And it even happens on the boat. Like, he sees her on the boat And then all of a sudden, Brach, trucked him down. Is that the same little actress? Or was that somebody, another girl? I think it's the same actress,

but I think it's like, you know, he thinks the little girl on the boat is the same girl he couldn't save before. Like, it's one of those hallucinations. I'm so confused. Every little blonde girl looks exactly the same to me in this movie. There's like 14 of them, and I think it's all the same actress, am I right? had to go investigate each single one

when he kicked him their doors. I just, I love, we get, we get martial arts, Nick Cage in this. He tries to, he tries to give us a little bit more when everybody's trying to capture him at the end. He does a little bit, huh? I just, I,

it's completely clear that they told everybody to, to try as best as they can, but just let Nick do what Nick does. Yeah. And, I have to say, Lance, I was entertained throughout this movie. Look at that.

All right, Lance, bring us back down. Have you guys seen this new TV show on HBO called The White Lotus? I heard of it, but I didn't tell you that. Oh, no, nobody's seen it. Then you can't appreciate what I'm going to describe. This is the only TV show or movie I've ever seen in my life where they have a guy that's so pissed off. He, like, runs the White Lotus Hotel and Resort and Spa in Hawaii, right? All these rich douchebags come there.

And he's so mad at this one guy that he gets the Master Key, sneaks into his room and literally bends over and shits two huge turds into the guy's luggage. And it's real. It's got to be real. I mean, you can't fake it. It's too realistic looking. And he literally bends over and you see two turds plop out onto the, this guy's shirts.

That's pretty much what this movie did to the original classic film Wicker Man. I have never in my life seen anything that Nicholas Cage has been in that I hated as much as I hated this movie. And I remember not liking

it when I first saw it. And I thought, okay, you know what? Because Beat is going to be on the show with us. I'm going to give it another try. Because Nicholas Cage has done so many, so bad it's going to movies that I didn't think I was going to appreciate. But once I finished watching them, I'm like, I kind of really want to see that again.

Because I really just want to see him go full cage. And I'm like talking, of course, about like, you know, Ghost Rider Spirit of Vengeance and that kind of tripe. It's horrible garbage. But he makes it good. He does make that. He goes full cage in that movie. He can't make this. He can't make this good, guys.

Sorry. He did. It's just, it's just, it's just defecating and urinating all over the original classic film, which is one of my favorite folk horror movies of all time. There is absolutely no way. Okay, so I'm looking here at the budget, $40 million to make this movie. There is no way that anything less than $38 million of that was spent on cocaine. Because everyone in this movie is,

is so completely out of control. And Nicholas Cage is just beyond Cage. And to the point where it's like, it's no longer fun to watch for me. It's just silly and stupid and makes no sense. And the filming choices that they make to go back with that scene. And yes, was there even really a little girl in that car

that got burned up? Was there even really a truck? I'm questioning whether any of that. actually even happened because again, I can't tell if this was the same actress that was there later. The acting, speaking of acting, the acting was

absolutely fucking horrible. Nicholas Cage is an Oscar winner. Ellen Burson is an Oscar winner. Lili Sabisky, I mean, she's not that great, but for I was not to say, she's been in a Stanley. She's not no Oscar winner. But she's been in a Stanley Cooperate movie. I mean,

she's got, look Francis Conroy. Look, how. much she is, she's contributed to American Horror Story. Molly Parker, great actress. Really, really good. But for some reason, they all

come together in this, and they just, they all bend over a big fucking copy of the original, like a VHS copy of the original Wicker Man, and each of them takes two or three dumps on it, and they stir it all together

and make a witch's brew of garbage. This movie is absolutely fucking horrible. Don't forget about Aaron Eckhart as truck stop patron and James Franco as police officer in Barr. Are you talking about at the very pretty end when James Franco's in it for quite literally

30 seconds? Yes. I mean, that's forgettable. What's the point? I mean, yeah, great. Oh, yeah, James Franco. Cool. Look, man. I know that guy. This movie's terrible. There's no ridiculous qualities whatsoever. The actress, who is this actress with a weird fake

lips that played his ex-wife or whatever. Oh, yeah. My God, dude. He was the first plastic surgeon ever for those lips. And I hate to make fun of people for the way they look, because that's not cool. Yeah, but if they chose to spend

money to make themselves look that way, and there's a lot of them right now, so. The coolest thing of this movie was the little thing that I sent you guys, where I caught the picture of, um, Was it Edward Woodward, the original actor from the first movie? Where it said...

Oh, yeah, I didn't. Yeah, I never noticed that until you set that picture. And that was kind of a cool little, I don't know, Easter egg or whatever you want to call it, but I don't know, man. Nobody can convince me. I'll never watch it again. I watched it again for this. I honestly thought, okay, the first time I watched it, I just didn't give it a fair shake. but this time watching it, it's cemented in my mind.

We're done. We're done with the Wicker Man. We're done with this version of the Wicker Man. I know, as a matter of fact, there's a new documentary that's like three and a half hours long about folk horror movies that I can't wait to watch because it's available to me now. And I know they're going to touch on this. And I can't wait to see what they have to say about it.

But sorry, there was one. good folk horror movie that I saw this year and it was one that was actually set in American. It was the first good American folk horror movie that I saw and it was the remake of wrong turn. I love that movie. That one was good.

That's probably on the top ten. This didn't come out this year so I guess it's not in the conversation but holy fucking shit. This was so bad. And yes, every time he punched a woman, I hate to say it guys. I don't want to sound like I'm a you know, some kind of a weird sexist or something like this, but I did cringe.

It's hard for me to watch a man-punch a woman like that. It's just very uncomfortable to me for something. Especially as random as it was. Yeah, I mean, I'm not saying that it's right at all, but the fact that it's a Nicholas cage wearing a fair suit who just walks up to a woman who is seemingly about the sacrifices daughter, and it just comes out of nowhere. And mind you, I'm expecting things, especially when he karate kicked Lili Sadie Sviaski. That's pretty great.

I was truly insulted, because you guys know how much of a huge Midsomar fan I am. And I was truly insulted when I saw all the pictures of the little girls that have been sacrificed on the wall. And I'm like, uh-oh. God damn it. Well, had they all been sacrificed? Well, but I've thought my favorite director currently working. Arioster did steal from this movie, but did he do it tongue and cheek? And then the bear suit, of course, he stole that somehow.

The bear suit part was great. How fucking wild. Nicholas Cage in a bear suit punching ladies. What? Sign me up for that fucking movie. Lance, you just wait until he remakes a clockwork orange. I can't even say anything to that. Well, you say that you're not going to watch this movie anymore until some, like, a Patreon subscribe and slides.

We're going to do an episode on the Wicerman remake and The Fanatic. We're going to make. So, too late. Sorry. Hey, it's commentary. It's Patreon. We have to do it. Oh, it's very.

Well, Brian makes the rules, so could it happen, Brian? Oh, they're donating. It definitely can happen. Can we move on? Wait, I might edit this now. Go. Comptuary on the Wicker Man. What's the scores, Bede?

Here's the thing, though. I guess we're a film like The Wicker Man, and I'm going to include both its quality and also its entertainment value. So I will say it is definitely not a good movie at all. It's, especially when compared to the great original film. But at the same time, though, as bad as it is, it's bizarreness and awfulness.

is what makes it really entertaining. And to me, it's the type of bad movie that I enjoy, the ones that try to set out to make something really good, but just end up failing on every single level. And also, unlike most bad movies, it's not boring to watch, at least for me anyway. Like, it is entertaining due to the bizarerness and hilarity and insanity that is going on.

And of course, yeah, Nick Kay just yelling and screaming and also like there's a version of this movie out there where you like legit in voiceover, he yells like, ah, by legs. Yes. Which is amazing. So I think overall, and I give this with love, this rating, it is, I would say four out of ten, but it's with love.

Yeah, I'm going to say like a realistic score is probably more like a two or three. but I had like a six good time with it yes maybe maybe more like a six six six good time with this piece of shit so I'm going to erase my score to somewhere in between there and I'm going to give it a four and a half

nice right my heart is telling me I need to give this. I'm going to do the six. I'm going to go with your heart. I'm going with my heart. I think that's fair, man. You know what? I'm changing

my score too. I'm giving it to six. Lance, I don't know how you were confused when Nick constantly explained things in this movie. Like when he flashed his badge, he said, this is my badge. It means I'm a police officer. I know. They did it right. They did it

suddenly in the original movie. And it was beautiful the way that they did it in the original. You got to break it down. Barney style. I believed it because they laughed at him. And he's like, I'm telling you, I have authority here. And they laughed at him, and I believed it. And this one just fucking shit all over that.

You can still watch the original. It's still there. Yes. Now Lance has cage rage. Got you a case of the cage rage there. Lance, what's your score? One on 10. Oh, ouch.

Worst movie of all time. It's on. No, it's not the worst movie of all time, but it's, it's, it's down there. It's making it sell some attention to the actual, the actual film. That it's, that it's, that it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, oh, my God, could you guys imagine how mad Tim would be if they remade Jaws and made it shitty? Oh. See, if, Nick Cage on every, it wouldn't be shitty. That's how close to my heart the original Wicker Man is.

That's what pisses me off. Now, Nick Cage as the shark enjoys, I'd be down for. What if they remade the Exorcist and it was really, really bad? I know. Like, he was possessed? But Nicholas Cage in a remake of The Exorcist? Okay. See, Lance, you say all this stuff, but now I would have seen Nicholas Cage in a possession of

where he's being possessed by the devil. No, he has to be the priest. He can be both. Yes. Now I'm down for this. I might go write this script after this podcast. He's the priest and he has to perform an exorcism on himself. Yes.

I like this idea. Yeah, he can dole roll it up like Van Dam and double impact. Exactly. I'm going to kickstart this idea after the show. And then at some point, he's, He's definitely going to have to have to have like a fat suit like the clumps. Yes.

Okay, let's move on. Prisoners of the Ghostland. This is one of Cage's new movies. I say one of because he's got like fucking four of them out right now. Set in the treacherous frontier city of Samurai Town,

where a ruthless bank robber is sprung from jail by a wealthy warlord, the governor, whose adopted granddaughter Bernice has gone missing. The governor offers the prisoner his freedom in exchange for retrieving the runaway. Stratt into a leather suit that will self-destruct within three days, the bandit sets off on a journey to find the young woman and his own path to redemption. And I'm not sure if there's really any spoilers that we can give. here because that's it.

We're going to do our best. There's no story other than that. What did you think about prisoners of the ghostland? Oh, wait, hang on, I'm sorry, I got to go director and writer and all that bullshit first. Yes.

Director is Cian Sono, also known for Suicide Club and Coldfish. Okay, this, I'm not a huge Japanese horror movie buff or Japanese movie buff

I'm sure that Don from the horror mafia could tell us a fuck of a lot more about it than me but this guy's done a lot of very very critically acclaimed movies

all kidding aside writers are Aaron Hendry and Reza 60 Sappai Reza? Reza did this? No, no, not. Res. R-E-C-A.

Couldn't you guys picture Rizzo doing this though? Oh yeah, you totally would. Oh, yeah. Cian Sono called Nicholas Cage, the easiest person I've ever worked with. Brought me back from the dead.

With drugs. Yeah, that's a lot. That's a strong, a strong statement, man. Described as the wildest Nicholas Cage movie, them's bold words. Yes. Cage says it may be the wildest movie I've ever made, and that's saying something.

That it definitely is. And I'm not sure I agree with that. Well, they got to, you know, pump it up. It's the scariest movie of all time. People are throwing up. Yeah, people are leaving the theater puking. Yeah, that kind of thing, right? Yeah.

Fainting or whatever. All right. Bede, start us off, man. All right, where to start with prisoners of the Ghostland? I'll definitely say this. Out of all the genre films that Nicholas Cage has been making in the last couple of years, you know, like Mandy, Colorado Space, Willie's Wonderland and Mom and Dad, Prisoners of the Ghostland is definitely, without a doubt, the strangest movie that he has made.

Am I saying this to someone who has... That's strong words, dude. Over Mandy? Yeah. I mean, Mandy has at least a lot of coherency to that movie. That's true. And the world building makes sense. There's none of that in a prison of the ghost land.

But I say that in a good way. It just is. I've actually, it just is. That's the thing. It's a film that kind of defy genre because it mismatches everything. There's a bit of like samurai films, westerns, a little bit of horror, and also sort of post-aparocalyptic action as well, and a bit of Western in there as well.

So it kind of is a mish-mash of all these kind of genres. And C-onsohn, I've seen quite a lot of his films, and believe me, a lot of his films are completely and utterly insane. Like, he did this one movie, like, just to give an example, like, Suicide Squad, I mean, not Suicide, Tuan, Suicide Club, sorry. That's probably his best known film, but he's made other films. Like he did this family film called Love and Peace,

which is basically a mixture of like Christmas film, rock and rock and rock and rock, and rock, but probably the film I always best associate him with is a film called Love Exposure, which was like this sort of comedy drama that kind of mixes family, religion, terrorism and upskirt photography.

Whoa. That's a strange mention. But the thing is, it literally is, and the thing is, though, this film is longer than Lawrence of Arabia. It's over four hours long.

It is, and it is bizarre. And the thing is, the title card for the film doesn't come in till 90 minutes into the film. Oh, wow. So he is an insane film.

And he sounded like, and a lot of these films are really unique and interesting. Like, I guess the number of what I did like is why did, why don't you play in hell, which is basically like this sort of action movie where a group of filmmakers go up against the, the Yakuta. And it is pretty awesome, Phil. So, so I had a lot writing with this film. So I was definitely curious to see being that this is his first English language film, like what he would do with this material. Because when you kind of think about it, the premise is pretty simple. Like, it does feel like a mixture of a escape from New York meets Mad Max in terms of its story. Although, he puts a lot of insanity in this film.

There are scenes and visuals and that happened throughout this whole film. Even now, I'm still wondering, like, what the fuck was that? And at the same time, though, like, I kind of go back and forth on this film. Like sometimes I love it. Sometimes I'm like, I hate it. But at the same time, though, I find it such a unique and interesting film,

like it, due to how utterly strange and bizarre it is. And again, like Wicker Man, you can tell Nick Cage and everyone is fully committed to this utter insanity that is happening. Yeah. And, but the thing is, it's one of those films you, I could definitely see it as a film that people,

either love or they're really going to hate because you that's this is the type of film it's either one or the other um and for me it is a mess it is a mess of a film but it is an interesting and enjoyable mess and of course Nick Cage is just gonzo throughout this whole film and the fact he has this suit that has little bombs all over it particularly down at uh his groin area and at one point he yelled out literally test the cows It's my favorite scene in the movie. There's going to be so many great gifts that come in this movie. Exactly.

And also there's a pretty solid action in there as well. And Bill Mosley gets the plot, you know, plays another villain, but he's having a lot of fun as well. It's just a really weird and bizarre movie that, like, it is a mixed bag overall, but it is an enjoyable one. If you kind of go on its wavelength. But it's a film that I think it's either one that you either love or. hate. That's the, there's no way that you can be in the middle. I kind of am in the middle

for it, but I would say overall as an experience, I did find it enjoyable. All right. Brian, what did you think? God bless Nicholas Kim Coppola for continuing to be in these movies.

I'm not going to, I'm not going to say I understood what was going on through most of it. But I was entertained. This is is definitely the strangest movie he's in. Real quick, Nick Casavetes. Why does he look like he's one step away from looking like a Dick Tracy villain? Does that what his face looks like?

Honestly, no joke. The first time they had the photo of Nick Cage and him in the photo, I didn't realize that was Nick Cassavetes. I put some dude in a mask and I realized, oh, that's Nick Cassavati's normal face. My grandson was watching the beginning with me. He said, that's Deadpool. What's Deadpool doing in this movie?

Is this in the Deadpool universe? I love the mash-up between the East and West. The whole thing with like Samurai Town and the samurai, the sword fighting, the cowboys, the whole gunfight at the end and sword fight. I loved it. They had the classic people with the rifles on the rooftops getting shot down and falling. Ghost Town, I didn't understand what was happening in it, but it led to a lot of funny things. Because if I'm not mistaken, does he say hi, fucking, yeah?

Yeah, he does. They swarm him, and he's like, hi-ya, hi-ha! He just basically just legit to like, tell him back on. It's like, hi, yaw. But overall, I thought I had a lot of fun with it. Nick, again, delivered the goods. me.

Bill Mosley, you know, he's great and everything. You know, he's kind of hamming it up here as the governor. He was fantastic in this one. Yeah, Sophia Batella doesn't matter how much you dirty her up. She still looks fantastic. And I like,

I like she got to get into some action later on into the movie, but overall I have fun with it. Although I... Well, about... Yeah, Sophia Bettele. Sophia Bettella, real quick.

Brian, you, me, and Darien would agree with that from the Padded Room podcast. But Miss Monica and also AJ both think she looks like a boy, so fuck them. I would do her all day long, man. She does have very, like, sharp features in her face, but she's got legs to fucking die. Oh, yeah. And she's a full-arm dancer, so she's able to do all these sort of action set pieces really well. I mean, between like Atomic Blonde and the Kingsman and all. Yeah, exactly.

Does she play a dancer in climax? That's the problem. Yeah, she was. Yeah, she was a dancer in climax. She's an amazing dancer and also just the way how she moves a body, these action set pieces or dance sequences is amazing. But the thing is, though, I find interesting is, like, Imogen Putz was originally meant to play the character but she had to drop out and she took out of the wrong.

Yeah. I'm happy with they went with who they went with. Really? Yeah. Because I think Image and Poots is a way better actress. Yeah. Because your favorite movie at all time is Black Christmas, right? Well, I know. She's still really good. She's excluding that one,

she's been good in everything else. Yeah. I will... I will... Yeah. Sorry, go ahead. I was going to say she wasn't... She wasn't bad in Black Christmas. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it Imogen Putes, I think, of the two is... Yes, it was. Everybody was.

I will say this. I think of the two between her and Sophia Bataella, I think Imogen Putes is the better actor, but I think Sophia Patella is the better kind of action star. Yeah, that makes sense. Well said, man. But I think Imogen looks more like a Bernice. And even when this case is a Bernice. I know.

That was, I always thought that was a weird name. I was like, why would your character be named Bernice? It's a weird movie, Phil. It is definitely a weird movie. And so, all right, I'll go. We want to save Lance for last because I'm curious. I can't decide if I like this one or not, man. Like, I think I enjoyed it for what it was.

Nick Cage, craziness. Had a pretty good cast. weird shit going on. But if you try to like follow the actual plot, um, there's really not one. It's just kind of the, like,

there's no real connective tissue here going on. It's like finding dinosaur bones that are scattered three miles apart. Just sticking up together and going. This is a governor source. But, um, Nick Nick Cage craziness is

pretty great he does have the one scene I don't know if we can get into it are we doing spoilers after this I guess of course but

you could do a mini spoiler right all right well no I hate to do it because it was a surprise for me and it was

so fucking hilarious yeah save that dude all right I'll save that one um Favorite scene of the movie by far, though. You guys know what I'm talking about if you've seen the movie.

The rest of it, I thought the acting was pretty great. Bill Mosley was fucking on point. My only problem is, like, nothing really made any sense. Like, the ending in the movie, I was like, wait, what the, how, what the fuck just happened? What are we doing here? Oh, okay, we're all wrapped up now. I think the only way that film really works if you try not to make sense of anything, because it feels like I almost take it's like dream logic as well.

Like it feels like a dream. Yeah, because it was very hard to determine what was reality and what was not. Although none of it may be. Fuck, I don't know. We've been through some Nicholas Cage fucking flashbacks at this point through both of these movies. Right. Like they keep showing the same goddamn scene over and over again. And also a scene of Nichols-Cage riding away on a bike.

That shit was funny. I think that was so on purpose, don't you? I wouldn't be surprised. Because it was just such silence. He hops on the bike and goes. And I was like, what? Oh, he is so cool. I think I enjoyed it for what it was.

So there's my quicker. Saying a lot, man. That's a good thing. Lance, I'm curious to know what she thought about this one. Well, I mean, you know, I mean, the, compared to the first movie that we watched this week, Brian, how do you pick these? Is it just totally random? Or do you kind of like try to match them up a little bit? Or.

K-trache. I imagine Nick Cage is losing it in his new movies, and then I try to think back which movie that he lost it in the past. He lost it the most. Okay, fair enough. All right. So, yeah, again, you know, full disclosure, I'm not a huge, you know, Japanese movie fan.

I don't have time. There's so much fucking great TV. There's so many great movies made here in America that we have to watch for the I just, there's so many books I like to read, you know, you guys know I read 24 books a year. That takes a lot of time, especially since one of them this year was the stand. But for fuck's sake, I think it's fairly obvious that this Japanese director was giving us a great love letter to American action movies. and even Japanese a little bit because I definitely got a little bit of the seven samurai in here

toward the end there, right? When he was getting the town ready for the bad guys and stuff. So I definitely got a bit of that. But, yeah, Bid, you mentioned escape from New York? I mean, that's very escape from New York. Almost to the point where it was almost could have been. been a remake of that. Mad Max,

but with bicycles mixed in? I got a little bit of like hell comes to Frogtown. Like any of these post-apocalyptic, you know, crazy 70s and 80s movies, he did a great job. I think he mixed him in

really well. The cinematography was absolutely on point because it was not like, Like, it wasn't beautiful sweeping vistas of mountains and volcanoes and rivers. It was dirty, seedy, Vegas-style lights, like carnival lights on a bus. Just nasty. He just did a great job of filming it.

I think that he set it up exactly how he meant to. And I think Nicholas Cage was the perfect act. to play this part. As far as Bill Mosley, guys, I'm going to say it right now. And you guys know how much I love House of a Thousand Corpses and all those other movies.

Hands down, my favorite Bill Mosley role ever. Oh, yeah. He was the best one in this movie. He was so good. Don't get his white shoes dirty. Yeah. It was,

was a little awkward explaining to the grandsons. Those are what you call kept women in the town as they were walking through, you know, the women behind the bars and, you know, there was so much implied there of like what things used to be. And then each beat, whoever said East Beats West just nailed it because this was just like the perfect combination of like a Japanese, samurai movie combined with an old school American western. And I really did appreciate that. And I think they did a great job filming it that way. I had so much fun watching this movie.

I think that the plot made perfect sense. I don't think there's a minute that I was confused about what was going on. And that just might be the way my brain works. And I have some fucking questions for you. I may not be able to answer them, but I think once you get to the ghostland, I think you're getting the part. I love the parts when they were showing, they had the people dancing in the background, and they were showing the story through pictures of what happened. That was kind of cool. And how we ended up where we ended up, because I thought it was a nuclear war, but no, it was like a smaller version of that, like an accident that happened.

Like a power plant. I loved it I really did I enjoyed this movie a lot it's not going to be a top 10 because this movie's got some this year has got so many great movies for me but

man especially compared to having to rewatch that abortion of the Wicker Man remake this was just such a breath of fresh air Philip I know the scene you're referring to I can't wait to talk about it

it makes zero sense how somebody could survive that and be it's so I didn't even care about that so hail and hearty after it was the funniest fucking thing I've ever seen

Nick Cage do that was fucking hilarious I'm ready for spoilers whenever you guys are let's do this all right let's go scores first bead

I'm going to give it about seven out of 10 like I said it's not for everyone and that's not for everyone. And it's definitely, like I said, it's a film that you'll either like or you'll hate, and I wouldn't blame anyone for hating this movie. But I think if you kind of go into it and experience it on its own wavelength of what it is and try not to make sense of it all, it is a pretty enjoyable, wacky film. All right. Brian?

I'm going a little bit higher and say 7.5. not the best at understanding what's going on out of all his movies, but I had a lot of fun with the mashup of the Western and the Eastern styles. And yeah, Nick Cage was amazing, and I can't wait to get the spoilers. Yeah, I'm kind of caught between six and a half and a seven. Oh, okay. Well, I think if I compare like wildness, and just weird trippiness,

then Mandy has it beat by a lot. But maybe not. Maybe we should re-watch this on Shrooms. I mean, I guess we'll have to try it now. Twist my arm. But I think this one was just kind of wild and crazy for the sake of wild and crazy. And if they had maybe tied the story together

in some sort of cognizant way, the score would definitely go up because it was a lot of fun. It was just like they ran out of budget and just ended the movie. I was like, wait, what the fuck is happening? I don't think that happened,

but it's possible. You never know, right? Jurassic Park 3. All right, Lance. Yeah, well, last week I, what did I give, 7.75 to James Juan's new movie just because it was so

immensely beautiful. I did watch that one again. Definitely a fucking nine. Kick-ass movie. You know what? I did not particularly love the story. I got to be honest with you, I really didn't, especially thinking back on it. I'll re-watch it, but there was a lot of plot holes in it, I think. But as far as the way that he filmed the movie,

7.75. So this one's close, to me a good seven and a half and I'm really glad that you guys picked this one. I like this one a lot better than Wally's Wonderland. I'll tell you that. See, I don't know. I think Wally's Wonder Man may end up on my top ten and this one may not. That's cool, man. That's why we do this shit.

He had some sweet dance moves in there. Exactly. Exactly. Those energy drinks, man. I really enjoyed this movie. Gotta give it a seven and a half, guys. Enjoyed it. Thank you, Bid. You're welcome. All right. Spoilers, it is. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Uh, Phil, before you get to yours, can I, I have one problem in the movie?

yeah I thought it was a little anti-climactic I thought we were going to get a battle between the I guess the outsiders or the I don't even know what they were called and the those weird nuclear waste guys yeah yeah and then Nick was like hey psycho it's you yeah and they hugged and then Nick Cassavetti yeah stands back and outstretches his arm and then a flash of light in a mushroom cloud and then they disappear Yeah, that was wild. And did he get superpowers from the toxic waste? I think so. Okay, because I was wondering why they kept just disappearing.

I don't know. I keep going back and forth whether the psycho and all of his guns, are they alive or they ghosts or like, it's never really explained. Yeah, like obviously people can see them, But whether they're actually just mutated people just roaming the land, killing whoever, or if they're actual ghosts, hence why it's called the ghost lands. I'm not exactly sure. The movie never really fully explains it. They never really fully explained a lot of stuff.

Exactly. That is true. It just took too many drugs and forgot. Yes, exactly. I would be surprised that's one of those things like it probably was written in the script and C-on-San is like, nah, we'll just get to leave. that ambiguous. Oh, we've forgotten to shoot that scene. Fuck. Oh, well.

We don't need to, though. They're just there. Right. So, the Nicholas Cage, nut getting blown off. Yes. Oh, you got to... Funniest fucking thing I've ever seen in a movie

ever. They showed it. They showed it. You got to start from the beginning. Just him pouring water in his mouth was enough to I guess arouse him to set it off? I kind of don't blame him for that part. That's kind of weird.

He's pouring the water and he's just like, yeah. And then it just do, do, do, do, do. She was letting it all spill out of her mouth and she had such a short little thing on. Listen, I can understand that. You know what? That's my biggest problem with this movie. I mean, my favorite part of the movie, of course, was when it happened. But my biggest problem, so when I was on vacation last week, I walked into a door, right?

and I had to get seven stitches. So this tiny little cut on my forehead, right, in my eyebrow. And I was out for like two hours with that. I couldn't even imagine. Can you really bounce back that quickly and be that tough after having your nut literally blown off? Oh, probably not. Plus, how does it not affect the twig?

Yeah, or the other nut as well because, you know, they're both in the same vicinity of each other. I think it's like a tiny little explosion or something like that. Because the bomb on his arm went off and it, yeah, it sort of, yeah, did a bit damage, but it didn't like blow the arm off or anything like that. It just sort of like more surface level than anything else. Yeah, it didn't blow his nut away. He had it in his hand.

Yeah, that was true. He pulled that sucker out. I mean, I've known people that got hit in the nuts by like a football or something and lost one. I mean, they never, like, they didn't come out and they held it in their hand. I got it off or something. I don't know. I didn't get that far into the questions. But, okay, so with his hand, all right, they put that armor thing on there.

I don't know. Silly, wasn't it? What? Oh, I didn't understand the ending. where he like got it stuck in that guy's maybe I just didn't see something when he got it stuck in like that guy and then pulled it out and he had a sword

and it was stuck but there was still like meat coming out of his hand what the fuck was that all about yeah you're looking to understand too much he suddenly turned into a mutant sword hand well I think the hand he was building it before they left so his hand still

in the thing. It's just holding on to the sword. Like, it's sort of covered, like, a bit of armor, and then the sword just kind of, like, can shoot out. Okay. As well. But then he had, like, just guts kind of coming out of the end of it.

I get... Well, he had... He did kill a whole bunch of people with that little hand sword. That's true. So, like, and doing karate chops, which is obviously a stunt person doing all of it, hence why they put Nichols Nickles Cage in a football helmet throughout my side.

Oh, is that what that was? Okay. Now it makes sense. And like, I think there were some budget limitations at least because I, in at least one of the scenes when they were in the middle of a bunch of sword fights. Dude, he gets blasted in the back by a sword and doesn't misleap, like it didn't happen. Oh, yeah. Oh, wow.

All right. So that fight scene wasn't exactly realistic. Yeah, some of the fight scenes with the swords. Like, some people, like, when they get. hit, like in close-ups, you can see, like, blood spatter and stuff, but in sort of, like, big group scenes and all that, if someone gets hit, like, gets struck or stabbed by the sword, you don't see any blood at all. I guess it could have been, like, a budget limitation type of, because I can imagine this

was a very low-budget film when they bait it. Yeah. I think so? Oh, yeah. But I'm saying, like, bounces off of Nick Cage's back while he's in the middle of fighting everybody. Like, somebody missed their fucking mark, and they just get on. It wasn't that bad.

Come on, guys. No, I still bet the fight scenes was still pretty well entertained, but I can definitely see some of the inconsistencies with some of the moments that as people were. Entertaining, were they great fight scenes? Bha. And, you know, you have characters like shooting up other characters, and you had, like, Bernice's sister pulling out a mini gun from out of nowhere, just like, shit.

Yeah. handy. It was left unattended right there. All right. Well, and since we're in spoilers, okay, so what the governor's getting overrun, and so all his bitches leave. Yep.

Okay. And he dies. And now everybody in the ghostland is, what, free? Yeah, well, basically, because since he is the richest person in this whole land, he owns everything. And pretty much, I suppose, because even though it's not fully explained, but from what I gather,

basically those who live out the ghostlands are like pushed away from society and basically samurai town is just a place that's run by his goons and, you know, sort of sex workers and all that. Yes, yeah. So now that... The camped women, right? Yeah, so basically like hence the prisoner's title because everyone under the governor is a prisoner, wherever they're in the town or out in the ghostlands of that. And now that he's dead, like they're all free now.

Even like Nick Casavetti's and his ghost goons are now technically free because... Yeah. Which I guess is the reason why they disappeared? I don't know. It's never fully explained. They let go of the rope on the clock, which they had been holding seemingly for no reason. Yeah, they are. I don't know.

They could have just tied it off. Yeah. There was a lot of... It would have been a better idea. There's a lot of Terry Gilliam in here too, right? Yeah. Oh, yeah, there's definitely a lot of that in there. I've been trying to think, like, what was the point of the clock?

I suppose that the Ghostlands basically time standstill. I guess. I don't know. It's probably one of those weird things that, like, was added on the day of shooting rather than actually in the screen. Also, if there were... Any explanations were cut out of it. Right.

Beat if they were that happy when the Gov passed away, why didn't somebody just sneak him in his room and slit his throat? Right, nobody's fucking liked this guy. He had a whole lobby of people as well. But even his army of people didn't like him. No, they were all cheering too. What the fuck are we doing? It's like we're doing a parade for Darth Vader here, you know?

Exactly. I think they got to realize. very quickly. It's like, yeah, the governor's not as tough as he thinks he is. Oh, what is? Grandma. And that kind of shades of the governor from Walking Dead now, huh? Yep. But yeah, like, and then, like, they let the clock go, and for some reason, it still exploded. That was for the celebration.

That should have had Malcolm McDowell show up, right? I'm surprised Malcolm and Dow wasn't in this movie. And then after it exploded, I mean, they're like all happy when it's doing it. I like, you couldn't have like done that earlier? What do we? You know what? I probably gave this movie a higher rating than I would have if I hadn't just sat in the wicker back.

That's probably true. It is well. I mean, it's a nice movie. Yeah, I think at the end of the day, like I said, like Cion Soto has made a lot of very weird films. Some of them do make sense. Others just don't. And maybe he's just being weird for the sake of being weird.

Like I said before, this is one of those There's a lot of Japan that is weird for the sake of being weird. Yeah. It's basically kind of putting it. Five girls panties in Japan. Yeah. Exactly. Like it's one of those films like, I think

you were saying Lance is like there's a lot of like it's basically how he view. It's basically this whole film is a Japanese his viewpoint of American action films. Like, it would have. Yeah. But being cool, this isn't something like, you know, John Wick.

I mean, like somebody like John Wu would have directed or something like that would set up action film. But when you have someone as weird as Cian Solo and the types of films he makes and ask him, oh, can you make this like pretty straightforward action script? You're going to know he's going to make it really fucking weird. But at the end of the done. But on crack. Exactly.

Oh, Greg. Is there much more to spoil or are you all ready to move on? Unless you want to talk about the gumballs. Oh, it's actually kind of well, Phil. Yeah, I was going to say, it's a very well shot opening, and it's sort of... Yes. And I did like how the film kind of, like, again, shows us, like, the sort of the guilt. Like, even though, yeah, Nick Cage's character is a criminal, but he does actually,

have a moral censor to him, especially like since he's haunted by that kid's deaf and it's weird. Now that I think about all this stuff now, Brian, you're putting these two films together makes a lot of sense because there's a lot of parallels in these films, like Nick Cage's character

by kids' death and there's a kid running off the bike's bicycle. The better version of the Wicker Man. Exactly. Brian is a genius when it comes to putting these movies together. I don't know. Where are you get your ideas, Brian, but God damn it, I wish I had your talent. You know how to pick up, dude.

Oh, thank you. Yeah, I mean, aside from questions to how anything, like that whole bike scene when he hops off out of the, he jumps out of the car really fast and runs over to the bike and takes off on it. Like he's doing something sneaky. Yeah, it's like, why? And then the next scene. They pull up in the car and he's like, yeah, I guess that would have been faster.

Yeah, I don't shit. It's going to need to be in a hurry, you know. Oh, yeah. And I think as well, there's a lot of, I think a lot of it as well is deliberately meant to be funny as well. Yeah. Yeah. I think that's specifically what that one was. Yeah.

Exactly. And the nutshot scene, which fucking achievement unlocked, man, you nailed that one. Exactly. And also, it comes back to it later. my favorite line of the movie was once again, Nicholas Cades just yelling out, testicles! I just love

his reaction to it. Oh! Because he is giving it 10010%. You can never like years of the cage of phoning in any of his performances, regardless of the quality of the film itself. Fair enough, man.

Yeah, give credit where credits do, right? Exactly. It's definitely worth a watch. I'll go with that. It doesn't make any fucking sense. Don't expect it to. But if you want some Nick Cage craziness, this is the one. Yeah, at least for this month.

At least for this month. Yeah, for this month until his next movie. Yes. All right. His Wonderland was pretty fucking great, too. B, thanks for coming on, dude. You gave us a little bit of an idea. what you have coming out, but where can everybody find you?

Ah, well, if people want to find me personally, they can find me at my Twitter. Besides, he wants to be a millionaire, that is. Exactly. Well, that is like, geez, that was a few years, three years ago now. Geez, times fly by since then. But, yeah, well, I'm over on Twitter at Twitter.com slash beigewide, so people can find me there. People can also find all my work at supermasty.com with my reviews and columns. nine months into the year, and this is totally on brand for me,

I finally released my top 10 films of 2020. My list for that is on the website, so definitely check that out. And also putting together my... Exactly. And I'm also putting together my 31 Days of Horror List, so keep a look out for that very soon. I definitely have some pretty exciting movies to look forward to watching in October. also you can find all of our podcasts over at supermarcy.com

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Exactly. Pretty easy to find. Well, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can reach out to us through the Facebook group or Twitter or just go to The Horror Returns at gmail.com. I think everybody knows where we're at by now. I'm so embarrassed that I haven't created the website yet that I'm not going to mention that. So maybe next week we'll have something to say.

But speaking of next week, we are going to go back in time again. It's a quote, Huey Lewis in the news. Brian, what are we doing next week, man? Another year in horror this time, 1987. Awesome. Part one of 1987, we're going to do The Witches of Eastwick and Near Dark. Oh, nice. And Brian corrected me, not the Wich.

Witches of Breastwick. That's a different podcast. Yeah, that's the triple X version. That's the one I was looking for. That's Patreon. Well, Philip, since you're so excited about that, dude, you can tell us, until the horror returns again.

Good night. Or you can say it like Nicholas Cage. Oh, oh. All right, let's do that again. Samarata. All right. So, Bede, until the horror returns again? First of all, it's Nichols-Cage era, and I will say,

Good-Nine.