The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #285: The Relic (1997) & Antlers (2021)

Episode Date: November 10, 2021

This week, we check out the new movie Antlers, as well as 1997's The Relic. Cool of the Week includes Midnight Mass, The Walking Dead, and The Harder They Fall. Trailers this week are Morbius, The Boo...k of Boba Fett, and Stranger Things 4. The podcast spotlight shines on The Horror Movie Crew. And we get feedback from Marcus Wilturner, who rounds out his 31 movies for October. Thanks for listening!

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Starting point is 00:01:25 I'm Lance. With me as always are my co-host, Philip and Brian. Nez is out. I don't know what the fucks. He's doing. He's hanging out with those guys from... I know, dude. Big time rappers.
Starting point is 00:01:38 What's that show? He's hanging out with some big-time rancers. Rampers, man. Yeah. The Tyco Watiti show. Yeah. The reservation dogs. There it is.
Starting point is 00:01:51 Fantastic show. That guy gets around, doesn't he? Yeah. He's hanging out with the two little dudes that rap. Yeah, they're funny. And meanwhile, we're over here watching the, oh, the Cowboys lost today, Philip. Oh, that was, that was ugly.
Starting point is 00:02:10 that's my roll that into my not cool the week boy it was Lance is getting uh DAC is getting his leg back you know it'll be all right
Starting point is 00:02:20 it'll be all right they're still six and two this was a humble pie game don't get too big for your britches just yet what's what's up with what's up with you Brian you follow on any any sports these days UFC
Starting point is 00:02:32 uh watched the canelo plant fight the other day uh yeah canella He's just a fucking badass.
Starting point is 00:02:42 Just, yeah. Yeah. One of the best out right now. I don't really follow it, but I know his name, so that says something. Yeah, the Jacob plant, he's never, he's never even been knocked down in his career and got knocked out this fight. Oh, well, first time for everything, right? Yeah. Still wish he.
Starting point is 00:03:07 Is he a title at all? Canella? Yeah. He has a bunch of A bunch of titles Oh, okay I wish he could have had that fight back with Mayweather because when they fought
Starting point is 00:03:19 I felt like it was it was too soon for him to fight Mayweather In his career But you know Him being a up-and-coming big name And Mayweather everybody's like you know Let him fight Yeah no it's yeah They just
Starting point is 00:03:32 Miss each other on the time frame then Because now it's too late for him to fight somebody serious Yeah Yeah just ex-examine fish and shit at this point. Yeah, because I've just seen this thing. He's like in the top 15
Starting point is 00:03:46 richest athletes. I think he's net worth is over a billion dollars, so. Yeah. So if he gets to come have some cake fight that makes him millions and millions, I'm sure he'll come back and do that against some
Starting point is 00:04:03 YouTuber or something. Yeah. But as far as a real fight goes, that's not going to happen. Yeah. last night's UFC was pretty good Usman Covington 2
Starting point is 00:04:15 Usman 5th straight title defense which I expected this one What happened to Usman Covington 1 An ass whoopin Covington's I give it to him
Starting point is 00:04:31 Covington's a great fighter He kind of got himself some notice with the whole Trump supporting wearing the MAGA hat thing and being outspoken. Oh, they do that for attention.
Starting point is 00:04:43 Come on. Yeah, I mean, I'm not going to say that's not what he really does, but at the time when you get it, I was like, that's kind of genius there. You're kind of, in wrestling terms, you're kind of making yourself to heal right now. That's right.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Have one of Trump's sons sitting ringside, rooting for him. Well, UFC fighters, UFC fights have a lot of Trump fans. Yeah, and we'll come, been wrestling too, right? I mean, isn't Trump in the
Starting point is 00:05:13 Wrestling Hall of Fame? He doesn't get the same ovation as he would. But, yeah, the rematch went exactly how the first match went. Usman is just, it might be one of the greatest
Starting point is 00:05:29 Walter weights that there is, so. Well, and were they yelling, let's go Usman instead of let's go Brandon? I got to say I love that thing though that's funny Yeah
Starting point is 00:05:46 Have we at this point not learn to stay away from politics on this podcast guys Whatever dude funny is funny How much abuse is it going to take though What it is I just like how it happened to it Brian said and on that note Yeah I was going to say let's talk about some rockets but... Was that cool of the week?
Starting point is 00:06:11 No, not the Rockets. Oh, man, come on. I don't even know who half the Pume is. I know. Yeah, I saw a little bit of the Texans game this morning, and it was like... Really bad, huh? I was like, is that Tyrod Taylor?
Starting point is 00:06:24 Is he a quarterback? When did that happen? That's who they can get. Yeah. Like, you guys are right about the Saints. They're going to end up pretty much right in the middle, you know? Yeah. It's all said and done.
Starting point is 00:06:40 But, you know, it is what it is. Rebuilding years, right? It is. Rockets know all about those. Cowboys meant through a lot of them. Yeah, that's right. So speaking to cool of the week, Philip. Man, that's really about all I've been doing.
Starting point is 00:06:55 And that and fixing my fucking computer that crashed. Yes, that's your cool. Yeah, that was fun. I had to get a new hard drive. Hey. So new hard drives are cool of the week. yeah man that's about all i got aside from that i've been working up a storm my wife is starting uh the walking dead again like ah i'm gonna i'm gonna put it down
Starting point is 00:07:21 walking in needs some love man she well if she does that you know she'll go watch something she's seen a hundred times and just play in the background like er she's starting from the beginning yeah from the beginning oh okay because i in my head i was thinking that ryan Reynolds mean when he's like, but why? But no, and so I'll, you know, walk through and see the Walking Dead on and seeing those first couple of seasons, I was like, man, this was a really good show, you know? Like I like what they did in those first couple of seasons. And I think three, which is the one she's on right now, is where it started going downhill.
Starting point is 00:08:00 Already that quick? I think Joe Bob Briggs is covering a bunch of them right now, isn't he? Well, yeah, but it went from like all. almost realistic what would happen if zombies were here. To like, and I know it's a comic book, but very common. You get the way. Yeah, the governor and the mayor and the president,
Starting point is 00:08:22 Negan, and I got you. The Commonwealth. It was like a little shark jump. Right. I hear you, man. But yeah, I guess that would be about it. We may go lose. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:39 Might as well, man. Okay, I got a variety of things. So, first one, finish Squid Game. Yeah? What'd you think? I liked it. I felt at episode six was probably the most emotional episode out of the whole series. Huh. Because what was that?
Starting point is 00:09:07 Was that the one with the tempered, the tempered glass? No, the marble game. Ah, yeah, that was rough, man. Yeah, but when we got to the end, it kind of had me questioning some things that were going on throughout the season. I don't know. You know, what was the point? If you guys are doing this and saying this, then what was the point of that, you know? And then I just kind of felt the end was a little, a little.
Starting point is 00:09:37 twisty tourney just for the sake of being twisty turny. Okay, got bit by the M. Knight bug, huh? But I enjoyed it for the most part. Like I said, episode six really got me because a lot of I'm not going to say
Starting point is 00:09:53 characters I was rooting for because you know, there was still people that I, you know, I take that back. Because if you're in a life deaf situation, you know, what are you going to do? Yeah, yeah. But at some point, I know what you're saying.
Starting point is 00:10:06 Yeah, but when you prey on the naive and the I'll just say the elderly yeah well but you got to do the elderly one was less assholey
Starting point is 00:10:23 to me yeah which pissed me off because it kind of took away from that episode when you find that you know it kind of took the impact away from that so but I do recommend it is a good show.
Starting point is 00:10:39 I did. I did have to stop halfway and put the dubbing back on because I was, I felt like I, as with any subtitled, I'm down there reading and then something else happens. And I'm kind of. Oh, yeah. I know they get a lot of shit from like Koreans or whatever, but. Well, of course, you don't think the dubbing is good. Yeah, well. But as far as a Korean movie dubbing.
Starting point is 00:11:07 in English, that wasn't bad. No, I've heard a lot worse. Yeah, my mother's, my mother's Korean, and she's had told me a few times, like, what they're saying and what is being translated at the bottom is not. Not even close sometimes. Well, yeah, it's never the same. And then sometimes they'll have like a local phrase and then try to translate it directly, and it doesn't make sense.
Starting point is 00:11:33 Yeah, yeah. So, but I do recommend it. I think it, for the most part, deserves the hype. It's something new, and especially from Netflix, you know. Sure. Come on, Netflix. Do better. We'll talk about it in trailers because you keep making us wait for shit.
Starting point is 00:11:54 You're ready for red notice, aren't you, Brian? I could have watched it in the theater. It's already in the theater. Is it? Yeah. But I'm not going to, I'm already paying for Netflix. I'm not going to pay it. watch it in the theater.
Starting point is 00:12:10 Sorry, Rock. Finally got to check out Shang-Chi. I love that movie. That's my favorite Marvel movie of the year. It might be, if I sit down and really think about it, if you take out the Avenger movies, it might be top five. Oh, wow. Yeah. Especially introducing a new character. Great movie. I still need to watch that, my man.
Starting point is 00:12:33 Yeah, I know. It's. Fight choreography was great. the fucking set set design was great the characters are great a lot of people kind of were given aquafina shit because of the way she sounds and that's who she has i know that's she can't for woman her voice is her voice that's what she grew up with you know my voice it seems like she it seems like she gets a lot of shit no matter what she does yeah and and then the way she talks that's just where she grew up so yeah get over it, you know. So I like Aquafina, so. Yeah. I don't mind. Yeah. The villain, the villain in it wasn't like one of these mustache twirling, you know, villain just, it wasn't like a bond villain, right?
Starting point is 00:13:18 Yeah. I'm going to destroy the world just because I can. And you kind of, you kind of felt for him. It was like he was a hero. Yeah, he was a hero. It was crazy. You have very well done. Great, well, well written film.
Starting point is 00:13:32 And yeah, I don't watch a lot of martial arts movies. But it didn't seem to have, Philip, it didn't seem to have as much of that, you know, where they're all standing around in a circle and like waiting for one guy to fight the guy. And then the next guy will jump in. Or he'll like start moving forward. He'll say, oh, wait, you're not done with that guy. Let me hold off a little bit. Wait, let's talk him one at a time so we don't get caught.
Starting point is 00:13:55 Right. So it looked a little less phony to me for some reason, which I appreciate. And I think that guy, I don't know the actor's name off top of it. of my head, but the one playing Changchi, that guy's, that guy's a star. He's got it. They picked the right guy for the role. I heard nothing but good things, man. I'm going to check it out.
Starting point is 00:14:17 Yeah, let's hope the Eternals is as good, but I'm hearing a lot of mixed theories. Okay, I did catch a little bit of the Eternals. Oh, yeah? I had a family emergency, so I had to leave the theater. Oh, no. But from what I'm seeing, Okay, how do I put it?
Starting point is 00:14:38 This is going to be all brand new characters, and this is not characters that you got to be a diehard comic book fan to know these characters. That's what I was worried about. And they're not necessarily setting up these characters for future things. They're setting up events for future things. and there's a video on a YouTube channel the YouTube channel is called New Rock Stars
Starting point is 00:15:08 he broke down the Eternals and the end credit scenes because there was an end credit scene I was just like whoa that's pretty fucking cool it's all setting up the future as far as it's setting up Marvel as far as the intergalactic space shit and there's a theory that maybe
Starting point is 00:15:29 Thanos's whole snap thing maybe there was a good reason for it. Which makes I answer to Loki? Yeah, it's all tied in. Tied into a, I ain't going to spoil it, but there was somebody talking off screen in the end credit scene, and it's a Marvel character.
Starting point is 00:15:50 We've been waiting for him to make his return, not a return, but a return to movies, but his... Blade. Blade. Damn it, Lance. All right, nobody Go watch the movie
Starting point is 00:16:03 Just get, that was a total guess, man Yes, total guess I was going to say Wolverine I'm waiting for that That's got to be right around the corner Well, I've been waiting for Mahershal Ali's Blade character Since he was announced
Starting point is 00:16:20 And there was an end-credit scene So spoilers, go ahead, a couple minutes Yeah, do it, go for it, man It's in the credit scene, right? What's his name? John Snow he finds the Evan
Starting point is 00:16:31 Blaine blade You know nothing John Snow He's trying to figure out if he wants to pick it up and accept it because the holder
Starting point is 00:16:40 of the blade becomes the black knight Interesting Is he somebody in the movie or is he just some dude at the end? He's in the movie Okay
Starting point is 00:16:49 But he's not the black night yet This is him trying to Because the blade Is almost like When he reaches For the blade
Starting point is 00:16:56 It's almost Reaching for him And calling out to him Kind of like Excalibur, huh? Yeah, and in the comics there is a lot of connection lance to Excalibur and stuff like that, like his ancestors. Then there's a voice off screen basically saying, are you ready to,
Starting point is 00:17:13 are you ready for this? And the director confirmed that it's Blade talking to him. Very cool. Here we go. I'm sure the X-Men are going to be introduced in one of these two multiverse movies. They have to be. Oh, it's coming. I'm almost positive.
Starting point is 00:17:34 These have already been cast before. They're just not saying anything because Marvel keeps everything locked down. Yeah, but I mean, you know, they had already planned out three, four years in the future. What is it, Kit Harrington that plays John Snow? Yeah, there he is. He said Marvel security scares him more than Game of Thrones security. Wow, that's saying a lot. Can't have any spoilers getting out.
Starting point is 00:18:04 Matter of fact, I saw a thing where in the Spider-Man trailer, they released a Doc Ock picture that looked like it was totally Photoshop. So they may be releasing their own shit that's not in the movie just to... To fuck with people. Yeah, it's not a bad idea. They do that. There's been some trailers, like the whole Infinity War trailer, where they're like running across the field of Wakanda
Starting point is 00:18:30 and Hulk's running with them Hulk in the movie was not with them. Right. So. Misdirection. Yeah. And did I get, I think, one more. Yeah, one more.
Starting point is 00:18:43 Went over to Netflix. No, two more. Got two Netflix movies. First one is Army of Thieves, the prequel to Army of the Dead. Okay. I really like this one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:18:56 The character Dieter, Dieter Ludwig. You actually get his origin of how he became a safecracker. All right. And he was not Dieter. Dieter was not his original name. Deter. I was going to say,
Starting point is 00:19:14 growing up tough from being named Deter. Yeah. I just think of the Saturday Night Live character. Mike Myers character. He was basically a safecracker in theory. and then he got put on to he got brought onto a crew to actually see if his theories about safe cracking or real basically is he the real deal
Starting point is 00:19:36 and this is like kind of like the origin of that character which I really like that character I think he's funny and I like the way he plays the kind of nervous guy but at times he does get a little bit of confidence and you kind of see that in this because he starts out the nervous guy, and then the more, the better he does is safecracking, the more confidence
Starting point is 00:20:01 he builds. And speaking of Game of Thrones, Natalie Emanuel's in this. Ah. Okay. And she looks fantastic. It don't matter what time of the day it is in the movie, what they're about to do in the movie, she just is immaculate. Of course. And she kicks ass in it, too. So. I've scrolled past it a couple of times Are there zombies? Yeah, yeah, because I'll just say this
Starting point is 00:20:35 He keeps turning on the TV to the news Oh, okay Zombie outbreak in Las Vegas has occurred And they're trying to contain it There you go So there are zombies, but not It's good, it's a good heist movie Yeah, I'm gonna check it out for sure
Starting point is 00:20:56 I just didn't get around to it this weekend. And my cool of the week goes to another Netflix movie, The Harder They Fall. Really? This is the coolest. And it's a Western, right? Western, fantastic cast. They're using real-life characters,
Starting point is 00:21:19 but they tell you in the beginning. These characters are real, but the story is not. And it's just, It's just a simple revenge story, Lance. Okay. A little more bloody than I thought it was going to be. Well, that's a good thing. That's an overly good thing.
Starting point is 00:21:37 The cast really... Idrisalba is in there. Yeah, Idrisalba, Jonathan Majors, which everybody knows he's King the Conqueror now from Loki, the new big villain. Regina King, Zazi Beats. Netflix has some money. Well, Netflix says our money.
Starting point is 00:21:54 Delroy Lindo Out of nowhere Damon Wayne's Jr. shows up. Oh, come on. Come on, Peter. Are you serious? Yeah, and then there's a lot of great younger... I've seen him in some stuff.
Starting point is 00:22:08 He's not bad. There's a lot of great younger actors in this that I've seen him a lot that are really good. Okay. So it was just a... Yeah, it was a great Western. Nice. I'll be damn, man.
Starting point is 00:22:22 All right. Well, it's... on the list too. Netflix, I was going to try to get rid of it because it's getting so expensive but you can't get rid of Netflix these days, man. No, and we're coming into I think
Starting point is 00:22:36 all these streaming platforms as far as TV shows, the next two months, they're going to keep us busy. I hope so. I don't see any way they can't, right? Yeah, a lot of
Starting point is 00:22:50 stuff announced. Nothing pushback. So a lot of lot of TV stuff coming out. Well, speaking of Netflix, boys, you guys have heard me say it all year long. One of the very first shows that came out this year has been my number one show that Stephen King's The Stand. I think it might have just gotten beat out.
Starting point is 00:23:14 I think Mike Flanagan has done it yet again for me. I think this is going to be my third favorite TV show of the week since we've been doing this show of the year that Mike Flanagan's spearheaded. Do you guys finish Midnight Mass yet?
Starting point is 00:23:33 Oh, yeah. I watched one episode like a month ago. What did you think, Philip? It's really, really, really slow. Yeah, and that's cool. It's also really good. Yeah. It just takes a while to get there.
Starting point is 00:23:50 Yeah, it was not what I was expecting. And then I don't know I don't want to give too much away But you know there's like some pretty Nobody's safe let me put it to you that way It's just like a Stephen King You know novel or something where you really never know who's gonna die next And that's what I love about it
Starting point is 00:24:08 So I like the furnace too I thought that was cool It was very cool Midnight Mass far and away cool of the week Yeah I got one more episode of going squid games But that's not going to beat Midnight Mass So on to headlines, Brian. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:24:30 Yeah, let's do it. Let's see. Do we have any headlines? Oh, here we go. You guys know the Broken Lizard comedy troupe? Of course, Super Troopers. How you do, Phil? They are developing a problem.
Starting point is 00:24:49 They are developing a Project spoofing the classic hunchback of Notre Dame. It's called quasi. Oh, my God. That sounds fantastic. And this one is coming to Hulu. People are definitely going to be mad at that. You think so?
Starting point is 00:25:09 Quazzy? I'm sure. But it'll go nice. This one, this one's for you and me here. Wormwood Apocalypse, the sequel. finally going to be released next year. The movie that's somewhat responsible for us doing this podcast. Yes, we met watching this movie at the same time.
Starting point is 00:25:34 Pretty cool. I'm looking for, I'm kind of thinking about quasi right now, though. Yeah. Well, it's definitely going to be Farva as Quasimoto, right? You think so? Leader of Cola. Maybe they'll do it. a beer a beer chugging contest or something toward the end
Starting point is 00:25:54 god damn leader of cola they'll pull it all together at the end and it's going to be like pros before hoes it's going to be amazing let's see here this has been a slow throw a little action news in there uh
Starting point is 00:26:19 Eko Owe's The Star of the Raid movies will be the villain in Expendables 4. Huh. And it will be Stallone's final expendables movie. They are going to continue the franchise, but he's stepping away from it
Starting point is 00:26:37 after this fourth one. And he's handing the torch over to Jason Statham. Is he old enough yet, though, to be considered an expendable yet? I mean, Oh, Jason's. Yeah, who's in the first one too, wasn't it?
Starting point is 00:26:53 Yeah, he's like, older than me. All right, well, guess he's been around long enough then. He qualifies. He's just been bald since he was 16. Right. Okay. I am not seeing anything even worth talking about. Uh-oh.
Starting point is 00:27:14 Well, I'm sure there will be. Plenty of Christmas stuff coming up. Yeah, I know we talked about the Evil Dead Rise movie rap filming, so trailer, I'm assuming, is coming real soon, and that movie's going to HBO Max. Oh, okay, that's probably where I'll see it. Yeah, I hope it's good. They did so great on that Ash versus the Evil Dead series. Yeah, but Ash isn't going to be in this one, right? I know, that's what I'm like, man. Allegedly.
Starting point is 00:27:44 Allegedly. Allegedly. Well, he wasn't in the remake, except just his voice at the very end. so his face was in it a lot of hope turned to look at the camera I'll see
Starting point is 00:27:57 I'll see find an Evil Dead 2 remake that follows the remake because I liked it I thought it was good that would be good well they they had this thing planned out
Starting point is 00:28:06 where she is walking from the cabin and a truck pulls up and it's ash and he notices her hand because people are not knowing what the fans want
Starting point is 00:28:19 I guess. I don't know. I guess. Because he's supposed to look down at her hand and immediately know, like, you know, kind of, I've been there too. Right. Yeah, no shit. And then it's Mia and Ash fucking kicking ass in the sequel. Oh, come on, man. Why didn't we get that?
Starting point is 00:28:37 I think I read something. She didn't have the greatest time working with Fedé Alvarez. Oh. Ah. I guess he's one of those kind of. it's Kubrick S director He's just But he's gonna beat the shit out of you
Starting point is 00:28:55 Get the performance he needs Well Whatever it takes right Yeah I mean He could have just said Yeah that's what I did But apparently he doesn't remember it going like that Hmm
Starting point is 00:29:09 That's why she she said If they wanted her back for Don't Breed 2 That was a no-go too Oh wow I'm not the fan of FedA. I guess not. I'm looking here. I think that's it.
Starting point is 00:29:28 Well? Slow Newsweek. It's all right, man, because we got plenty of trailers parked overnight over at the trailer park. So you guys ready to go visit some of these meth heads over here at the trailer park? Yes. Now is the time on Sprockets where we dance. We just drive past the meth heads?
Starting point is 00:29:50 Yeah, we'll go meet up with Dieter instead. Okay. I don't want to hang out the meth heads. All right. More dangerous. Let's get, in my opinion, the bullshit out of the way first. Morbius. You made DC's answer to Dr. Strange?
Starting point is 00:30:13 They even have the song. Morbius is Marble. Is this marveled? Oh, no, no, no. Sony. Dony, yeah. It's part of that fucking bullshit where they're doing venom and okay. I get it.
Starting point is 00:30:26 It is all connected. Okay. Because of venom. We'll get to that part. I'm going to read a synopsis. Biochemist Michael Morbius tries to cure himself of a rare blood disease, but he inadvertently infects himself with a form of vamporism instead. Invertently, trailer looks like you did it.
Starting point is 00:30:47 on purpose. Yeah, let's go ahead and rip off Blade and Dr. Strange and throw him in a blender and put him in the same movie and call it Morbius. How about that? Well, if they were going to do... Go ahead. I was going to say, if they were going to do Morbius right, he probably would have been best like neither being introduced, of course, in a Spider-Man movie or in a Blade movie. Yeah. Well, sure.
Starting point is 00:31:12 Oh, that would have been cool. But... But now, I like Morbius. I read some Orbiased comics when I was a kid, yeah. But this, yeah, this trailer is not. It looks terrible. Giving me good feelings. It does look pretty terrible.
Starting point is 00:31:28 Like, this thing is going to bomb. I felt like it was 15 minutes long. I mean, it just wouldn't end. The whole movie or what, guys? Come on. Even though I'm not into it, I'm getting the same feeling as that first been a movie. I think we're all going to see it. and we're all going to be like, it wasn't bad.
Starting point is 00:31:49 We'll see it. Probably. We'll see it. Yeah. It's just, it's not what I wanted them to do with him. Although they didn't do what I wanted them to do with Venom either, and that turned out okay. When he said the lobster tank, he made up for it, right? When he became Jim Carrey in the lobster tank?
Starting point is 00:32:08 Right. Yeah. Okay. Captain Ron. They maybe, they maybe are taking. this whole Spider-Man universe a little too light-hearted. Yeah, because they
Starting point is 00:32:22 they teased if I was watching the trailer correctly, they teased the MCU. They teased the Spider-Verse. And they teased Venom at the end when he's like, the guy was like, who are you? And he's like, I got a venom. I'm just joking. I'm Michael
Starting point is 00:32:41 Morius. Yeah, that's a stupid fucking scene. You're trying to connect all these fucking universes and I'm just like, I'm going to say it right here. People are mad at Eternals. I'm not mad at Eternals. That is not the direction that's going to take Marble down.
Starting point is 00:32:58 It's this fucking stupid trying to shoehorn this fucking Sony Spiderverse into the MCU. Yeah. I mean, we got Michael Keaton showing up. In Morbius? Yeah, he shows up and they're like being transported out of prison. and he looks at Morbius and he says, we should keep in touch. Oh, boy.
Starting point is 00:33:23 Ah, okay. Well, ouch. Fucking Doctor Who stepped off the set of last night in Soho and Steps showed up here. That guy's been in everything lately. It has a good cast, though. But I just, Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:41 It looks like so much is going to be going on in this movie. That's the only thing that gives me hope, because I didn't particularly like the Venom trailer. and that turned out pretty good. At least the first one. I mean, the second one wasn't bad. It was just silly. And the cast on this looks pretty awesome,
Starting point is 00:33:58 but I don't know. We'll see. It looks, again, a little too lighthearted for its own good. Well, it'll all be there. The director, Daniel Espinoza, he's done some good stuff. Mm-hmm. I actually did like that sci-fi movie life.
Starting point is 00:34:17 The one everybody thought was the Venom prequel. I know the one you're talking about. Yeah. He did Safe House with Denzel, Child 44. Okay. All right. He's done some good stuff. Yeah, but this seems more like a studio thing.
Starting point is 00:34:37 How many people wrote this movie? Yeah. One, two, three. Are you serious? Oh, the last two are just, they're squirms. wrote for Marvel, so they're just taken from what they wrote. So this is like two or three people wrote this movie. Ouch.
Starting point is 00:34:56 Not a good sign. We'll see. I believe it. I see it. Well, not go on the schedule, but I'm sure we'll all see it when we get to it. Lance will probably be day one in the theater. January 20th.
Starting point is 00:35:13 I will. I'll be there. I'll be there. well in January is just not a notoriously good time for movies in general oh yeah what a strange time to release it huh all right now let's get to some awesomeness we talked about it last week for a little bit
Starting point is 00:35:32 but we're going to take a deeper look into the book of Boba Fett's ah okay Phil you're the Star Wars guy on this panel besides Nes what did you think? I am fucking excited about it.
Starting point is 00:35:53 Well, I haven't really been keeping up with some of the animated stuff that they've been coming out with. Right. And, you know, Star Wars had a whole lot of internal stuff going on in their offices. But it seems to be that that has straightened out. And John Favro can do his thing. And now we have this.
Starting point is 00:36:13 And it looks like it's going to be, you pick up right where the Mandalorian left. off. That's a good thing. Be more of a serious kind of vibe. I like it. I like it a lot. I'm really excited. Looking at the directors list, I'm pretty sure
Starting point is 00:36:31 this is not all the directors. But we got Robert Rodriguez, John Favreau, Dave Faloni, and Bryce Dallas Howard returning. Damn. Loading for bear, aren't they? Yeah. So essentially, they took the Mandalorian directors
Starting point is 00:36:49 brought him over to the Boba Fett show. Yeah. Yeah. Probably a smart move. Yeah. It sounds like he has a plan. Like this is going to go through a few seasons of stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:37:04 Through the next few years. Yeah, it's a sci-fi gang movie. Yeah. He's taken over turf that he used to work for the previous boss. Now he's here taking over. people that are kind of like, how are you just going to walk in here and just take the throne?
Starting point is 00:37:23 And they're probably going to find out horribly why they shouldn't have. That's what I like about it. That looks like a badass. Yeah, I'm excited. It should be a lot of fun. Should be, yeah, like you said, pick up right where Mandalorian left off.
Starting point is 00:37:38 And then Mando's coming back too, right? Yeah. I think they wanted to get this in before the next season. Thank you. Everybody's happy where the direction Star Wars is going right now. Yeah, but I really want that one TV series to happen sooner. The Acolytes. See, I haven't heard awesome things about that one. I like the premise of we're going to follow somebody on the dark side.
Starting point is 00:38:10 Yeah, that would be cool. We've never really did that. We've always been on the, you know. it sounds like a cool idea but like that was part of the internal struggle the people that were in charge of that have nothing to do with the mandolordian well I mean Phil
Starting point is 00:38:28 does Kyle a rent show up one phone call and uh we get John Faberone and Dave Filoni over there yeah well that's I think that's the end goal as far as casting this they only list three people I'm sure we're going to
Starting point is 00:38:45 get moron who's the cast but uh Jennifer Beals from Flash Dance Yeah Flash Dance Oh wow She's in here I seen I seen her She's one of the alien women With the thing
Starting point is 00:38:58 The tentacle head things Huh That's interesting Yeah I think we'll They can do whatever they want to man Yeah for sure Everything I saw in that preview made me
Starting point is 00:39:13 Superstow And then like I was watching it on YouTube and you know they play another video right after and the next video they played was uh that Luke scene and Mandalorian with uh yeah with uh like the uh the forced music on top of it out and it just made me even more excited right it was really well done i think it was a fan thing oh yeah it's gonna be a great last weekend of 2021 because the book of effect comes out December 29th and I believe December 30th or 31st that weekend would be Cobra Kai. Oh wow. So I know what I'm doing that weekend.
Starting point is 00:39:58 Yellowstone started tonight too and so did Dexter the new Dexter revival. I am still doing the not the rewatch but I'm going through the season so I'm not there yet. Got to catch up before you see this one man. Yeah. Are you like it? Yeah, I'm just, I'm liking him trying to, you know, he's doing his serial killer shit, but he's still trying to pose as a normal person with a normal job. And he's got this sister that's just so upbeat and completely not what he is. Yeah, I've seen a few episodes, but I've never really gotten into it. I mean, how are you getting, how are you getting a blowjob from your girlfriend?
Starting point is 00:40:41 And then you're just fucking over here thinking, I have to act like I'm enjoying this or else you'll suspect something. That's weird. Have you gotten, have you gotten the part yet? Surprise, motherfucker?
Starting point is 00:40:59 Huh? You'll know it when you get there. Yeah, all right. Like I said, Wednesday, December 29th. and the last one is one I dropped on you guys last minute because I didn't even know about it I was on the live stream with the League of Geeks and they watched the trailer
Starting point is 00:41:28 teaser for Stranger Things 4 and I'll jump in I'm I need this show now it's been too long I'm 100 glad they did the time jump because clearly yeah clearly these kids are way too grown to be in yeah middle school I liked the change of
Starting point is 00:41:57 scenery you know in California yeah and I'm just wanting to see where this angle goes with Robert England's character about this this creepy house that somewhat has ties to what's been going on in previous seasons. Yeah, they definitely didn't give much away. I'm not sure what's going on in this month. Me neither. I don't know what the fuck is going on.
Starting point is 00:42:29 You've got one trailer that was like a haunted house type thing, and then like American Horror Story Season 1, and then you've got this one that, like, going to California with like, yeah, hey, bro, I like that guy, too, the new character. The dude gets in all these comedy movies. I can't think of the actor's name, but I'm looking forward to seeing him in it. Oh, I didn't recognize him. Oh, yeah, he's been on a lot of stuff.
Starting point is 00:42:54 I don't know, man. I just don't know what to think. He was in one movie where they were like out camping in the middle of nowhere, and he was playing with a knife and he accidentally cut his dick off. And they had to hit his dick. How do you do that? Well, he was playing. He had like a switchblade that he borrowed from one of the chicks brothers.
Starting point is 00:43:13 And he was like fucking around with it. And they were all stoned and high and tripping. Did he die? No. They eyes just dick down. He should have died. It was a battle constant hour and a half long battle to get him to the hospital. And they kept running into like hillbillies and people chasing him and all kinds of weird shit.
Starting point is 00:43:35 And then he was in another movie called The Binge. You got seen this one on Hulu? Are you making these movies up? Dude, the binge is a parody of the purge and it's set in the quote unquote dystopia not so distant future where all alcohol and
Starting point is 00:43:52 drugs have been outlawed except for 24 hours. Except for 24 hours. You get 24 hours to do all the to do all the drugs and alcohol that you want to do. It's pretty funny.
Starting point is 00:44:11 It's think of this... His dick off. What is this young actor's name, dude? I can't... Is his name? Stupid! Young is stupid!
Starting point is 00:44:23 I guess that could be it. All right. I'm looking forward to that part of it. I think the actor's name is Eduardo Franco. Now, is he related to James... Is he related to James Franco? I don't know. Okay.
Starting point is 00:44:41 Okay, his name, I'm looking it up. You guys are making me look it up. His name in Stranger Things is going to be called Argyle. So he's like the California laid back stoner dude that they're going to meet up with. There's only one Argyle, and he was in Die Hard One. Well, we'll see what this guy can do. But, yep, happy to say they were able to get his dick on ice. I can, I can spoil it because it's been over a year.
Starting point is 00:45:09 and they did make it past all the roving hillbillies and wildlife and I think at one point a mountain lion ran off with his dick and they had to chase the mouth Is this a comedy or? Big time. Oh, okay. Okay. But stranger things for, I'm looking forward to it.
Starting point is 00:45:36 I think they made the necessary changes for me to keep it fresh and just not doing the same thing. Yeah. I thought it was going to be in Russia with the way the last season ended. That's what Hopper is. That's where Hopper is. Hopper's in Russia. Okay.
Starting point is 00:45:54 Well, how are they going to tie all that together? I'll take a plane, Lance. I don't know. Black widow. All right. They're going to black widow it, huh? A multiverse. He steps to a portal.
Starting point is 00:46:07 David Harbor will show up again, but this time he's going to be the the Russian Captain America character, huh? Sold. So he's a commander or whatever right. The Red Guardian.
Starting point is 00:46:23 Yeah, there you go. There you go. There you go. It's not playing around this season. All right. You guys talk me into it. I'm in. I'm in. I'll be there on day one. Of course. I'm in. And this is like a
Starting point is 00:46:37 I kind of like what they're doing with it with the time jumps and everything because uh... like i think originally we all kind of got like us in particular got into it because of like the nostalgia yeah yeah but then there was a whole younger generation that got onto it also and now they're going to grow up with this and so bringing it out once every few years is almost like star wars movies you know yeah so and we're not talking about the big part lance is tuning in for us to see his buddy,
Starting point is 00:47:11 Finn Wolfhard. Yeah. It's your favorite young actor. We'll see how he does. There's going to be a love triangle there for sure. Yep. With him and Lance and who else? That's right.
Starting point is 00:47:25 And the dude that cut his dick off. Well, now I kind of want to see that movie. All right. As with all these teasers, no exact release date. It says summer 20. but I'm guessing with the kind of
Starting point is 00:47:44 what were they waiting for in the trailer Spring break Yeah I could see them releasing this spring break Yep all about spring break And just so you guys know If you want to see the movie where he cuts his dick off The film is ironically titled
Starting point is 00:48:02 The Package Oh I've heard of this movie I have heard of this The title is just an eggplant? Yeah, exactly. All right. Well, if it's worth it, I'll watch it. It's worth it.
Starting point is 00:48:16 It was on Netflix. I don't know if it still is. Yeah, I remember scrolling past it a couple times. And the binge is definitely on Hulu. So there you go. All right. That was the final trailer. On to listener feedback.
Starting point is 00:48:33 This week we're going to start out with a couple of emails we got. One is from our buddy Lars. He says, I hope you... Yeah, he says, hey Lance, I hope you and the gang are doing great. I've been very, very busy with my new TV series. Now it's finally in production. After two years in hell. My address...
Starting point is 00:48:54 Oh, no, I should probably shouldn't read that. Yep. And we also have one from Michael Levy. He says, you may know me as playing Will the Exterminate. who gets beheaded in the movie Terrifier. Oh, yeah. He could forget that. He's a producer on Terrifier, too.
Starting point is 00:49:16 Nice. So a little public service announcement for him. Not sure if you'd be interested or seeing this around our next horror project, but we are now running an Indiegogo campaign for finishing funds on our film entitled Stream. And offering opportunities for anyone who may want to come on board. It actually only has a few days left. So you want to check it out. Over 90% is shot and the movie stars a bunch of horror icons you might like.
Starting point is 00:49:46 Jeffrey Combs, Tony Todd, Danielle Harris, D. Wallace, Felissa Rose, Tim Reed, to name a few. Damn. Yeah. And there are some more we haven't officially announced yet. Damien from Terror FIRE did all the FX and David Howard Thornton, Art the Clown, is also one of the on the film is one of our killers. I hope you're doing well.
Starting point is 00:50:12 We have a video on the site and you and if you can, would love to hear your thoughts. Hopefully you can join our team. Thank you. And that address is www.endigogo.com slash projects slash stream dash dash 4 backslash x
Starting point is 00:50:33 backslash 750717. hashtag. Might be a little easier to search for it. I'll share the link in the Facebook group. There we go. It's called stream. So go to Indiegogo and check out stream. And it's the movie that's in there.
Starting point is 00:50:54 Sounds pretty awesome, man. If you want to be a part of it, but check it out. Help out our indie movie makers. All right. And this week, we're going to shine our podcast spotlight on the horror movie crew there are a group of friends that love horror movies every episode in the horror movie crew
Starting point is 00:51:16 will dig into their favorite horror movies and discuss why they love them and we got Marcus Will Turner back I was gonna say this this week I did listen to the podcast spotlight yeah yeah great banter back and forth funny they reviewed the curse of Lila
Starting point is 00:51:36 oh no They liked it way better than we did. Oh, boy. Okay. Is that the James Wan one or is that the other one? No, it's the James Wan one. James Wan one. Not the artsy one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:51:52 And last week I did go back and listen to the Grave Plot podcast. And Lance, I might have to add a movie to 31 next year. Oh, I'm in. That's cool. Just to torture you. Because I already know how you're going to. to feel about the movie. You don't know that.
Starting point is 00:52:10 I may love it. Bottom 10. Well, I'm excited now. Escape Room 3? If that comes out and we review it, I'm going to say it again. That's not going to make your bottom 10 either. Well, we're going to find out.
Starting point is 00:52:29 Yeah, it can't be worse than two, Jennifer. Sorry. All right. So Marcus Will Turner. He's keeping us up to date on his 31-day horrathon. And like the pick of destiny, he is now complete. Marcus has left his full reviews on our Facebook group as well as in the Super Network. But we're giving you guys a little preview of each of you here.
Starting point is 00:52:55 So number 29 is Mandy. It was only a matter of time, and it's been far, far too long. So it was time for the welcome return to a film that's nothing short of a masterclass of cinema. resonant resonance and a metamorphic piece of psychedelic and psychosomatic
Starting point is 00:53:11 art. I think he just writes this stuff to fuck me up. That's exactly what I said in my review
Starting point is 00:53:16 of Mandy. I think he's been tripping. Well, he ain't lying. An insurmountimal undeviating
Starting point is 00:53:25 version, vision made of fiery heavy metal interstellar stone and brought to us by director, co-writer,
Starting point is 00:53:33 and maestro Panos Cosmaitos. Wow. I am not mad at that review Mandy is I watched it I think a couple weeks ago
Starting point is 00:53:44 again Yeah it gets better The more you watch it Yeah the more you watch it The better And the one that was already good When you first watch it It also gets better
Starting point is 00:53:56 Every time you watch it A color out of space Yes Ah of course Of course Nick Cage Been on a roll All right
Starting point is 00:54:06 And number 30 We have Taitain What is that one? Sorry, I'm thinking of our review of What's that movie with Nick Cage We just did? Ghosts
Starting point is 00:54:17 Oh, yeah. Oh, Prisoners of the Ghostland. Prisoners of the Ghost. That one was wild. My testicles. Now that was one of the funniest scenes in any movie I've ever seen.
Starting point is 00:54:34 All right, all right. I'll give them that. It's a wild one. I'm not mad at him for doing it. He still had one left. Tatane, is that what is that called? Have you guys ever heard of that one? You know, I don't know what the pronunciation is,
Starting point is 00:54:55 but I'm hearing so much about this movie. Really? Good or bad? I've never heard. I mean, I guess the bad thing you can get from it is people don't know how they feel about it. Okay. Because I guess you go on a journey throughout the movie. What?
Starting point is 00:55:12 But everybody universally says that visually and as far as direction and stuff like that is outstanding. It's made by the director she did that movie Raw. Oh, I got you. Wasn't a huge fan of that. So probably very artsy. Yeah, but I'm just hearing a lot of people like. Okay. I don't know what I just watched, but I think I like it type of reviews.
Starting point is 00:55:42 Well, maybe it's good in a Mandy way. Yeah. Maybe. T-I-T-A-N-E, if you want to check that out. His rating says, I don't know, I'm still mulling over that one. Do me. See? There's a lot of that going on.
Starting point is 00:56:01 Okay. And number 31 is metamorphosis. Hmm. Sure, half of it is familiar territory, but it's nevertheless a break of fresh demonic air and a subgenre that's seen it all and done it all before. Oh, I've seen this one. Really? Yeah, I think I told you guys about it. It's a possession movie.
Starting point is 00:56:25 It's in a family, and it, like, imitates different people of the family. So you think, like, your mom's doing something fucked up, and then you're going to go tell your dad, and then he's going to go confront. her and then it'll switch back to the regular person and everybody's like, what the fuck? Why'd you do that? Why do you know? And the mom would just be like, what are you talking about? And then the demon will
Starting point is 00:56:49 go and switch to another family member and do something Oh, maybe I haven't seen this. Yeah, it's on shutter, I think. It's a good one. It's metamorphosis. Hmm. Okay. It just sets this tone where you don't know
Starting point is 00:57:05 who in your family to trust. Yeah. Okay. I thought it was like a Kafka thing or something. He wakes up with a cockroach. A distinguished interpretation with family ties, duplicitous, revelations, and wicked intent. So, hey, metamorphosis is something. I kind of want to check that out now. Thanks again, Marcus, and more feedback will return next week. as always our show intro comes from Steve Carlton of the League of Geeks
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Starting point is 00:59:00 go over there as a group and fuck with them. I think, I'm kind of thinking maybe maybe in the well Steve's got to come on for the next screen movie because okay because of that whole thing that happened absolutely
Starting point is 00:59:14 the screen three was the best yeah I was you're going to say hopefully it'll be as good as screen three but we'll but I'm thinking maybe in the new year we maybe we go live maybe so yeah I got to get with the
Starting point is 00:59:30 Lil because there's a lot of things that they're doing that I don't want it, well, we will be copying them. I just think it's fun. They actually, if there's any trailers, they share their screen and the three of them watch them and react to them at the same time. That's the way to go right there. So I'm thinking maybe we go live, people can interact with this, and then we just save our trailers, do not watch them until the show, and we all three react to them live. That's a great idea. All right. So, work in progress.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Thank you. Always. All right. So that's it for listener feedback. We'll roll on to our featured attractions. This week we're going to check out antlers and the relic. So the relic
Starting point is 01:00:22 from 1997. A homicide detective and an anthropologist try to destroy a South American lizard-like god who's on a people-eating rampage in a Chicago museum. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:00:37 Starring the Rock and Ben Stiller. That'd be a very different movie. Director was Peter Hymes, also known for Time Cop and End of Days. Writer is Amy Holden Jones, also known for the slumber party massacre and Mystic Pizza. Oh, one bad.
Starting point is 01:01:02 Makeup artist Stan Winston. Yeah. Make-up artist Stan Winston and his team made three creatures with two people moving the heads and people on the side working the electronics to move the arms, claws, mouth, and so on. Hiams reviewed Winston's early drawings. Hang on. Sorry, guys. Reviewed Winston's, it's not COVID. Reviewed Winston's early drawings. And his only suggestion was to make the monster more hideous looking. The director also suggested certain invertebrates for inspiration, and Winston came up with the arachnoid outline for the monster's face. In the scenes where the creatures running or jumping, a computer-generated version was also used. Well, I think that was pretty obvious. Wasn't it at the time?
Starting point is 01:01:52 I don't think it got past anybody even at the time. Harrison Ford. Oh, wow. Was director Pete Hymes first choice for the lead role of Vincent de Augusta? But of course it was. When did this come out? 97. Let me look at what was Harrison Ford doing.
Starting point is 01:02:12 What was he doing instead, huh? At 97. And Hayes with the airplane. I like that one. Maybe the third race. Six days of seven nights. Yeah, that was it. That should be right around that time period somewhere.
Starting point is 01:02:27 Let's see. Filmography of, come on. That's about it. filmography of course he is a lengthy filmography well 97 he was doing
Starting point is 01:02:43 well I can see why he didn't do that one he was doing an Air Force one okay that was a better man and right after Air Force one maybe it launched the line of 10 issues after Air Force one he did six days seven nights okay
Starting point is 01:03:01 all right well no Harrison for it in this one just what's that dude's name Tom Seismore
Starting point is 01:03:10 Tom High Tom Highsmore sorry Tom what you called him Brian I know sorry Tom I know you're trying to get better now
Starting point is 01:03:20 yeah loves his drugs he does but well Brian what did you think about the relic it has
Starting point is 01:03:29 probably been over 20 years since I've seen this movie. Oh, yeah. I remember really liking it when I originally seen it. And re-watching it now, I still like it, but there's a lot that does not hold up. Oh, no.
Starting point is 01:03:49 I like the... I go through my likes first. I like the practical effects of the creature. I like the design of the creature. It just looks like a... mosh-posh of different things which you come to find out it's got all these different DNA strands in it which i think is pretty cool um some of the kills were pretty good that we got to see i know there was a lot of stuff in the dark and stuff off screen but uh when when you got to see some they were pretty violent uh the cg does not hold up definitely because you can definitely tell that there's nothing really walking up the stairs you can definitely tell that there's nothing really walking up the stairs It's just computer racks and it doesn't look bad. I thought Tom Seismore, he was serviceable as this detective.
Starting point is 01:04:40 Yeah, I was surprised. Yeah, I thought, I'm glad they didn't go into the hole because when you meet him, he just came from a custody hearing. She took his dog. I thought, I totally forgot how the movie played. So I thought when he met the professor at the museum, I thought that was going to be like, his ex-wife or something. And I'm glad they didn't go that way. Yeah, because we've seen that many times where they end up having to work together.
Starting point is 01:05:09 And by the end of the movie, they're back together because of the traumatic experiences they went through. I thought there was some kind of romantic thing going on. Oh, he's definitely begging her after this. I mean, technically he didn't save her life. She saved herself. He was knocked out. Right. Kurt Russell, big trouble
Starting point is 01:05:29 and a little China style. But yeah, overall, I thought it was cool. The whole ayahuasca scene or whatever it was in the beginning and the guy was tripping out. Oh, yeah. I'm assuming he was tripping out because he just realized what he was doing was not a good thing.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Yeah, but when you forget what the movie's about, that seems kind of funny. It is, yeah, it is. I was like, why are they scared this man? I know. I thought they were just funny. But overall, I had fun with it. I thought everybody did pretty well in it as far as acting, directing was okay. The only thing that just didn't really hold up for me was the CGI, which for that time, I guess it would have been more expensive to do everything practical, especially the trivia film.
Starting point is 01:06:24 There was so many people working this thing. that having this creature run upstairs and jump and run up the walls and climb the ceilings you probably had to go CGI with that and I forgot who it was on Facebook had commented to tell they told me to read the book the book is way better than the movie oh yeah yeah oh my god I read this book did you really yeah I think a lot of people have read this book Okay. And forget all about it, right? I think so. Yeah. I think I might have, too.
Starting point is 01:07:03 It's vaguely familiar. Like those two writers. Douglas Preston and Lincoln Child, they've written a bunch of books together, right? Sounds pretty familiar for some reason. Huh. I didn't read the book because I can't read. Come on, Brian. Go find me, guys.
Starting point is 01:07:25 I help Brian learn to read. play one of those infomercials. I just have one lonely tear running down my cheek. At the very end. Yeah, I'm holding a book and I can't read it. You hold it up to this guy and go, no. And then you and Lance show up and you guys put your hand on my shoulder and everything's going to be okay. It's all right, buddy.
Starting point is 01:07:52 Floyd Mayweather can't read it. Oh, no, I got the Floyd Mayweather. You'll be okay. Okay, but the relic. I had a fun time rewatching this. I think it's a good creature feature. I do like my monsters, and I thought the creature looked cool, but I think this might be a movie that could use a remake or a reboot. You think?
Starting point is 01:08:19 Yeah. How about a series? A series. A series, because I would like to see, because they said when the when the creature before he died the creature wasn't done changing was he right because he was supposed to be like 30% human or more than 30% human so you could do a lot more with it right yeah you could have went through this whole thing like maybe it was actually
Starting point is 01:08:44 changing into a person or a person like thing and you know well it changed from the original guy yeah but maybe it changed back to the human, but he had like abilities of whatever DNA strands. Kind of like the fly a little bit, huh? Yeah, yeah. That would be cool. And I think in the right in the right hands, because there's, of course, nowadays, there's going to be CGI in it. So I think CGI when done right is amazing because, you know, we do put that movie in there.
Starting point is 01:09:20 Right. Amazing. But that's, that's really what it's lacking is. just the CGI You think Well at least At least Tom Chismore Wasn't playing
Starting point is 01:09:32 At least he wasn't playing Pong With like one of the professors or something That would have been really bad You sunk my battleship or something like that I like the way he played the detective though He was kind of Yeah I mean he was a little bit superstitious
Starting point is 01:09:51 At the same time he was very Had to add that in to it, right? Yeah, he had that, or he was very, uh, you don't, you didn't fuck with him because he has the scene with the mayor and he was like, with all due respect, you know, shut the fuck up mayor. That was awesome. And then I kind of, I kind of, I kind of, my mind went kind of dark at the end. Did it? He gave that lucky bullet for her to have. And then he's at the end, he told her to keep it. And then my mind, like, you know, Tom Seismore's character dies one week later in a shooting.
Starting point is 01:10:24 Yeah, no kid. Like, oh, if you only had that bullet. Yep. The alternate ending. But I had fun rewatching this one. Like I said, I think this just needs a reboot. Maybe more book-oriented, because I think that's the way a lot of things are going nowadays with the remakes.
Starting point is 01:10:45 Okay. Yeah, I think you're right. I think they could have done something really cool with this, or they could do something really cool with this now because for the time that it came out, I thought it definitely dates itself while you're watching it. And it's slightly cheesy
Starting point is 01:11:02 and kind of systematic on its following the plot points. And you know, it's definitely a it's not realistic at all. That's what I'm saying. Okay. Now I hear
Starting point is 01:11:16 I hear you loud and clear. I get it. It looks like people reading the script. But it's also a lot of fun. I, yeah, I like the storyline. I thought the monster was pretty cool, even though I did roll my eyes at a lot of the computer generated stuff.
Starting point is 01:11:40 You didn't believe at the end it was really fire and the creature was chasing her? Yeah, that was bad. With her light jog. It's like Event Horizon. Like, that used to be one of my favorite movies, and I went to have re-watched it. About the same time, wasn't it? Yeah, it was about the same time.
Starting point is 01:12:03 I was like, man, there's some really bad CGI in this. Yeah, but then, on the other hand, there's some really good practicals in Event Horizon. Yeah. Well, and there's some pretty good practicals in this one, too. Yeah, this one too. They were just learning and kind of piecing it together, you know, it wasn't Jurassic Park level stuff. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:25 Well, you know, what they did as far as practical, it was impressive, though. Because I'm always impressed when it comes, when they're making something so large, it takes like four or five people to control it. Yeah, right. Because you got to do that in sync, and, you know, this person has to move when this person moves. And I always applaud that. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:12:45 Brian, I think you just hit, oh, my God, Brian, we got to do a Kickstarter. You just said that you get four or five characters that all have to control like a monster, but they have to do it in sync. Why don't we go round up the band in sync and get them to work with Jim Henson? No, hear me out. Isn't he dead? Oh, shit, that's my idea. Sorry.
Starting point is 01:13:12 And isn't one of the in sync guys in space or something, or is that backstreet? I thought that was Jim Bezos, man. maybe they're all there or Elon Musk Maybe they're all in space Elon's in space in his mind All right Well I thought I had an idea there
Starting point is 01:13:31 Sorry guys They could be like the Monster Power Rangers Oh RIP Jim Henson All right Unfortunately Lance what'd you think about it Oh man it was kind of cool
Starting point is 01:13:47 Watching watching this movie Because last week You guys know I was out of town staying in Chicago, and I was, the hotel room that we had that A.J.'s company provided her. I could literally see downtown out of one side of the one window on one wall, and on the other windows I could look across and actually see the field museum where this movie was filmed. So it was kind of neat going back and checking this out. and like they definitely filmed it in Chicago
Starting point is 01:14:22 because there were a lot of scenes leading up to them being in the museum that were definitely areas that I had had walked or taken a train to last week. So that was kind of cool to see all that.
Starting point is 01:14:37 Size bar, man. I thought there is no way in the world that this cat is going to pull this off. But you guys are right. He was definitely passable. he ain't no Harrison Ford He's a good actor though He had his time
Starting point is 01:14:54 He was good No he had his He played his role perfectly Yeah he had his time when he was a good actor I'm not saying he still is not a good actor But you know when hard times falls upon you You just kind of End up having to take the roles you can
Starting point is 01:15:08 Which he's going to be in the fucking god awful I haven't seen it yet But burial ground massacre too Come on with another Nick Cage had a comeback he was in some really shit movies yeah hey maybe if they'll redo
Starting point is 01:15:24 the relic as a TV show they'll get Seizmore and that'll be his comeback right he didn't steal like lethal weapon lines and say he's too old for this shit oh man I I really did love the creature design of this film though and I see I thought the movie was
Starting point is 01:15:41 gonna go one I think I saw this movie I didn't read the book Phil but I think I did see this movie a very long time ago, like probably you know, a couple of years after it came out on HBO or something.
Starting point is 01:15:56 I really thought it was going to go a different way. They did kind of introduce those two kids that played hooky so they could go to the museum when the rest of the class was taken if I could field trip there anyway. I swore they died. Stupidest hooky ever. I thought for sure they were going to be
Starting point is 01:16:13 a bigger part of the movie. I swore I remember they died. You know what? We got to get that alternate copy, dude, because those kids, they got to die, man. They got to die.
Starting point is 01:16:26 Yeah, that's the point. Because they're obviously kind of troublemakers and they skip school to go to the museum. Skip school to go to the museum while the rest of the classes they're on a field trip. Yeah. Genius. Genius.
Starting point is 01:16:40 You guys aren't the little badass as you think you are. But I actually kind of like the way that they did that, though, that they set it up where the mayor and everybody was rushing size more to get through his job and try to nail somebody so that they could have their big fundraiser, which it was good for the city, was good for his wife, who he pointed out has cleavage. Yeah, he's such an asshole. Which is very weird. You like my wife's cleavage? Everybody else does. Like, what is happening right now? Very weird, but.
Starting point is 01:17:14 Tom Curtis, to play him in the new movie. It was a very good setup. They were like Tropic Thunder style. Right. Very good setup. A decent story. The monster effects were amazing. A lot of the acting, they did feel like they were reading.
Starting point is 01:17:35 And yes, it kind of looks like they were playing Pong or asteroids in a couple of scenes. But other than that, not a bad movie. Not a bad watch, Brian. Appreciate it. All right. Scores, Brian? Who, I would give it a seven, but I'm more of a six and a half. And it's just when the CGI is bad, it's bad.
Starting point is 01:18:00 Yeah. But I enjoyed everything else. Would I watch this again? Yeah, I would watch it again, definitely. It does need a good solid Blu-ray release. I think there is one, but I don't think there's like a collector's edition. and, you know, good artwork, good slipcase, something. And I would definitely pick this up.
Starting point is 01:18:22 And I'm all on board if they remake it or reboot it or do something that's more online with the book. Because that's not the first time I was heard that the book is really good. Yeah. And I had completely forgotten about this movie. And until you mentioned that it was a book, I was like, oh, damn, I did. Didn't I? Sounds familiar. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:18:49 But it was a good time. It was just kind of forgettable. I can understand why we completely forgot about it for 20 years. Right, right. But, yeah, I've rewatched this one again. I think it was pretty good. And I think six and a half is a pretty good score, which puts it right into that worth watching,
Starting point is 01:19:09 but kind of forgettable territory. Huh. Lance? That's two six and nine. a halfs? Yep. Ah, okay. I stole Brian's score.
Starting point is 01:19:20 I didn't know where I was at. We got the trifecta boys, six and a half. That's exactly from, yeah, from start to finish, that's pretty much where I had it. You know, a decent storyline. I like the way that the plot moved along. I thought everybody was passable. And I love the creature effects. So definitely six and a half.
Starting point is 01:19:44 Three, six and a half. Let's go to Vegas. Yeah. That's not a good idea. Or maybe the best idea you ever had. It's not a bad idea. For other reasons. I mean, we stay away from the casinos and go other places.
Starting point is 01:20:02 Wow. The hookers? Can do that. Word it that way. All right. So, yeah, check that one out if you dare. If you haven't seen it a while, it's worth to watch. It's pretty good.
Starting point is 01:20:19 Yep. Now we're going to move on to our brand new movie Antlers. In an isolated Oregon town, a middle school teacher and her sheriff brother became embroiled with her enigmatic student whose dark secrets lead to terrifying encounters with ancestral creatures. directors Scott Cooper, also known for the hostels and Black Mass. Writers are also Scott Cooper and Henry
Starting point is 01:20:50 Chezon and Nick Ataska Antasong This film is based on the story The Quiet Boy, written by Nick Antosca filmed for the 1st of October
Starting point is 01:21:08 2018 and finished on the 30th of November 2018 but not release until October 21. This one's been a while. We've been reporting on this one on our social media pages for a while now. Yeah, several years. Well, was it worth the wait? Brian, what do you think? I enjoyed this one.
Starting point is 01:21:32 Yeah. I've, fuck you, Pet Cemetery Remake. Thank you. And it was forgiving me the wind ago. Damn it. I'll be teasing me for years. But, yeah, I was in on the story. You know, I was worried about this child.
Starting point is 01:21:49 I wanted to see what was going on in his life. And then you get, was it Carrie Russell? Yeah. You get her. And obviously, she's had some things going on in her past. And then you got fan favorite Fat Damon jumping in here, looking extra big
Starting point is 01:22:09 I don't know why he's looking a little extra padded yeah I just enjoyed the story the explanation of the wind ago was was fascinating
Starting point is 01:22:23 you know I think Nez he's going to have a review on it on e-society so everybody definitely look for that one the effects the practical effects
Starting point is 01:22:35 and the look of the windigo I thought were great, especially the metamorphosis from a person to this, this, you know, creature. I thought were great, you know, a lot more bloody than I thought it was going to be. I wasn't really, I don't know what I was really expecting. Yeah, I thought they were kind of, they were pushing this for a theater release so bad that I thought maybe they toned it down. But, I mean, they're, they're, they're killing children in here. Yeah, they're killing children in here. I'm like, oh, Bravo.
Starting point is 01:23:09 Got to kill a kid every now and then. In a movie. In a movie. God, don't let anyone fucking timestamp that. I thought, like I said, I thought just hearing some of the history of the Wendigo was fascinating. The practicals were good. I thought the cast was great. And this movie did a thing where it had me so involved that I hated characters in this movie.
Starting point is 01:23:34 And we'll get. Really? Yeah. we'll get to it in spoilers, but I was kind of rooting for them to die. Oh yeah, I got you. Because I was like, you guys are fucking horrible people. What fucking horrible little town is this?
Starting point is 01:23:47 And then I would say there was some comeuppins that was bet my needs. So that was pretty good. But did we have to wait this long for a theater release? No, but I'm glad I saw it in the theater
Starting point is 01:24:06 because I was just kind of caught up in the moment, the atmosphere, things, you know. And I thought the main kid, I thought he did a pretty good job. You know, I'm kind of up and down on child actors, but I thought he was pretty good. Yeah, I'm a little concerned about him, though. Yeah, I'm like, did you guys, did you guys neglect him? Is he a method actor or something? Is he staying character? That's fucked up.
Starting point is 01:24:32 Ouch. I mean, although, I, I mean, maybe he's just a weird-looking kid, you know? Like, you could not have picked a better person to play the child of a myth head. Yeah. Oh, good point. Yeah, good point. But, yeah, definitely enjoyed this one.
Starting point is 01:24:54 Yeah, I'm going to agree with you. I thought I had a good atmosphere. I thought it was a cool story. When you first told us to watch The Relic, I had in my head the ruins. Ah, that's a good one too. Okay. Yeah, which is also a Windigo thing.
Starting point is 01:25:12 And I actually happened to watch it a couple weeks ago. So that was kind of a cool transition into this one. Although it's not a good Windigo movie Cat Cemetery. Ah, there you go. Come on, move on.
Starting point is 01:25:27 Oh, you hear him stomping in the background. And that's it. Well, and in the ruins, they have The Windigo look was really cool and really scary, and I liked it. It was weird and crazy. And this one, I think, is better. I love what they did.
Starting point is 01:25:48 Damn, strong words. Yeah, definitely. And I think it's a better movie all around. Which is not to say anything bad about the ruins, because I like that movie. But they kept it really serious and realistic the whole time. It looks, yes. It has the feel of kind of just another ghost story movie. And they just won up themselves on it.
Starting point is 01:26:17 So it, like, has that feel, but it was actually really good. This one, I think, is going to be memorable. I'm not, like, totally in love with it, but I like the idea. I like the special effects. I like the way the movie float, like the story. story was really cool. You know what I mean? Like what they did with it? Sure. It was a cool concept.
Starting point is 01:26:43 And it was original, which I like. And as far as like the characters, I like how we had an equal balance. Because you had Graham Green's character who was breaking down the myth, the mythos of the Wendigo. And he's telling them, basically, this is what's happening. you know, look at your coroner, your coroner saying, you know, no man or animal I've ever seen has done this to a person. But then you got Fat Damon. Sorry, Jesse Plymonds. I was called Fat Damon.
Starting point is 01:27:18 You got him on the other side. He was like, you know, all that's fine, but I don't know how much faith I'm going to go into a mythical nature beast. And I thought the sides were evenly played. You know, there was sides that were kind of like, you know, you know, maybe it is this legend that we're hearing about. And on the other side, it was just like, no, that's impossible. Well, and I like that idea of the mythical creature stuff, because, I mean, it's pretty presumptuous of us to think that we even know everything about the world,
Starting point is 01:27:55 much less the universe, to be like, well, this doesn't exist because I said so. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, look at aliens. Yeah. Big debate. And then the government was like, oh, well, we kind of knew about them. Here's some videos.
Starting point is 01:28:10 But don't be mad at us for not telling you. And still, nobody hears about it. Although there was some kind of hypersonic rocket thing. Oh, here we go. Here we go. I wonder if that was because they were like, oh, he's, I probably should be that. They were like, no, it's not a rocket. It's a UFO.
Starting point is 01:28:38 And we're like, yeah, okay. So I'm like, well, maybe we did have some, maybe it is just tests. I don't know. But there's videos of some weird shit. Anyway. Yeah. Not to divert. The movie was cool.
Starting point is 01:28:53 I like the mysterious atmosphere. I love that stuff. Lance? Man, I'm of a very, very, very similar mind to this movie as, as the, last one. The thing that blew me away on this movie, just like the one we just talked about, was the creature effects. I mean, I thought the creature was just terrifying. I love the effects of it. And I didn't know exactly what to expect going in, but was not at all disappointed with the acting from anyone. Carrie Russell is normally not like one of my favorite actors. She's
Starting point is 01:29:32 kind of like hit or miss for me. But, uh, because you, you know, I just remember that alien movie she was in that I shat all over. I think I gave it a one. An alien movie was she in? Ah, we covered it like a year and a half ago, Brian. Like an aliens movie? Help me out. My mind's working here. I'm like
Starting point is 01:29:50 Harry Russell was in an alien movie? Yep. Like, no, she was. She was. She was. She was. No, alien invasion movie and I hated it. I got to take the deep dive here. That being said, that being said, I thought all the acting on this thing was way above par.
Starting point is 01:30:06 I thought that the meth head dude was perfect in his role as... Dark skies. Dark skies. There are you guys right out. I told my mind to not remember that movie. I know. I think this little kid has a... I think this little kid has a big future, man.
Starting point is 01:30:25 He could really emote. Yeah, you guys said it. He made you feel for him. And I believed everything Kerry Russell did, because if you're in a small town like that and you're the teacher and you know his mom's dad and his dad's, you know, a math head basically. And they were talking about how some of the kids come to class and you or don't come to class because you can smell the math chemicals on their clothing and stuff like that. Is that a thing that smell meth? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:54 Yeah, yes. You know, I mean, I lived close by a area where they were making meth and. the police did a raid on them and they had to demolish the entire building because it was unsafe. Oh, wow. And you can smell the chemicals. Okay, well,
Starting point is 01:31:20 I guess it's real. It felt realistic. I'll put it to you this way. Everything about this movie felt like something that could happen. Right. Like you guys were saying, yeah, we don't know everything that's out there.
Starting point is 01:31:33 I kind of thought they shoehorned Graham Green in a little bit. I wish they had had more native actors in this movie. I think it might have added a little bit more credence to it. I mean, they did have some children in the class. The teacher was like, tell us a folk tale. And it was like, nope. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:31:55 That's true. That was a good little aside here, I guess. Speaking on anything. But I was pretty much blown away with the creature effects. I thought the story was strong. I thought all of the acting was much better than the acting in the first movie we saw tonight. Did I have to wait till 2021 to see it in the theater? Absolutely not.
Starting point is 01:32:21 I would have been perfectly happy if Hulu or Netflix or somebody had picked this movie up in late 2018 or early 2019 or whatever. and we could have just seen it then and then this poor kid probably would have three or four more roles instead of an empty future IMDB record, which is what it looks like he's got right now. Or at least a fucking handbook. Come on, guys. He deserves better.
Starting point is 01:32:47 Maybe he's recovering from the movie. Could be, could be. I'm telling you, just a method actor. A meth actor? What? No, a method actor. Ah, okay. What's, what's, what's, what's, you and Daniel Day Lewis?
Starting point is 01:33:01 I told him he was a malnourist, abused kid, and he was like, let me get in character. Maybe he'll be the next Christian Bale, but... No, I enjoyed it. I enjoyed it. What happened with Matthew McConaughey on that, though? I'm a little mad. Okay, I'm sorry, go ahead. I'm a little mad about having to wait three years to see it, but I enjoyed the movie.
Starting point is 01:33:23 What about McConaughey? Oh, well, when he did, like, Dallas Buyers Club, and he got, like, super skinny for that one? Mm-hmm. And then, man, he's never true. Really recovered from that. Yeah, well, what's his name? He hurt himself. Tom Hardy, when he did Bain.
Starting point is 01:33:41 Yeah? He got so, he got too big. And I guess he, like, hurt himself. Like, I don't know. I think I read it was like a permanent thing. Because you notice he's not as big as he was as Bain. Well, that happens. Like, lifting weights and hurting yourself, I get that.
Starting point is 01:33:56 But, like, I think that, like, permanently changed Matthew McConaughey's appearance. Well, he may be our next governor, Philip, so you never know. I don't know that I'm mad at this. I like that guy. All right. Have you ever seen like his Instagram videos? No, he does like motivational shit, right? He's a strange guy, but I still want to watch his videos.
Starting point is 01:34:21 He loves weed. I'm pretty sure weed would be illegal in Texas if he wants. There's a video where he's talking about the minds eye. Yeah, the minds eye. And I'm like, I don't. know what you're talking about, but I'm engaged in what you're talking about. Right. I would say
Starting point is 01:34:36 we can do worse, but we don't talk politics on the horror returns. So moving on. You can have my man. Asshole. Anyway, scores. All right. Y'all want to do scores? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:34:52 I'm going from the heart. I liked damn near everything about it. The only thing I could say that I didn't like about it was having to wait almost three years to watch it. Mm-hmm.
Starting point is 01:35:05 Which that's not any fault to anything that was in the movie. It's just, you know, the times we live in. Sure. So this movie was a solid eight for me. I really like the performances. I definitely am finally happy
Starting point is 01:35:20 we got a wind to go. And when we got it, I was not... I just, I was impressed with it. Yeah, not disappointed. Yeah, not. disappointed, just the metamorphosis for man to when to go, I thought was amazing. And I,
Starting point is 01:35:38 Phil, like you said, the kid, he, he was amazing. You know, he did his job. And, sir, I hope you're okay. Yeah, solid A for me. The whole time, they put that kid on the screen and I'm like, I was like, at the ice cream shop, at the ice cream shop, you're not eating enough ice cream, man. movie that's messed up, man. He's really skinny.
Starting point is 01:36:03 Yeah. I think, yeah, like a real score and not just a personal bias thing, because I think this one is more of a realistic, serious kind of movie. And I give personal bias scores on a lot of shitty horror movies and comedy stuff because it's personal preference stuff. But this one is, I think, for real an eight and a half. Nice. Yeah, it's a good movie. probably going to be on the top 10 by the end of the year.
Starting point is 01:36:32 Wow. He did look Mount Nourge, man. Right. Now I'm really thinking about it now because they look at the brother. They took the brother and they just threw dirt on him. Like, I don't give a shit if Joaquin Phoenix does it for a movie. He's old. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:36:47 Not this 11-year-old kid, right? Fuck with kids like that. Well, first of all, I'm going to say, you guys know I have a New Year's resolution, right, to see 12. one of my new year's resolutions is to see 12 live shows before the end of the year. I think I'm up to nine. Oh, man. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 01:37:10 I'm going to bring the show down a little. Definitely glad I did not take my granddaughter's offer to go with her to see Travis Scott. Oh. What happened there? Our heart, my hearts go out to the, there was a stampede in the crowd? Yeah, it was a, it was a whole. music festival, Philip. And it's kind of like that Who concert back in the 70s where everybody was kind of like
Starting point is 01:37:35 bum rushing. Well, not to get off of a tangent or anything, but we do anyways. I read a story that some of those people that died might have been injected with drugs. I heard somebody, there was somebody injecting bad drugs. It's probably that fentanyl shit. Oh, yeah. Similar rumor. And the youngest one was 10 years old.
Starting point is 01:37:57 Well, and the shit gets in here. Houston pretty quick. Yeah. And right now, I guess they're trying to cancel Travis Scott because somehow it was his fault on what was going on in the crowd. I don't know. Everybody. Everybody wants to be mad about something.
Starting point is 01:38:14 But, yeah, I'm glad your granddaughters did not go because it didn't turn out good for, I believe they said it was up to 10 people so far that died. Okay. So, yeah. So it's a music festival. with 50,000 paying attendance, Philip. And they said... Astro World.
Starting point is 01:38:33 Yep, Astero World Festival. And they said earlier in the day, a bunch of people like jump the fence. So there could have easily been 60, 70,000 people in there, okay? Yeah. So you really tell me you're going to be able to control that from the stage.
Starting point is 01:38:47 I mean, come on. I'm, okay, I'm a fan of his music. He does get his crowd. I mean, he fully just gets his crowd hyped. Yeah, kind of like the old mosh pits. Yeah, but he cannot control people jumping over barricades and stampeding over people. That is out of his control. I've seen concerts where he's shut the concert down because he's seen one person in the crowd kind of collapse from exhaustion.
Starting point is 01:39:14 And he's had security come into the crowd and carry them out and get them help. So I can't say you have to cancel this man because he's responsible. He is taking responsibility that maybe certain things should have been. set in place that this didn't happen. But at the end of the day, these people jump the rails. Yeah, if he's getting the crowd hyped enough to do that, he's just doing his job really well. And it sucks that it happens. Well, and any good lawyer is going to follow the money, right?
Starting point is 01:39:50 So it's going to be live nation first, right? Right. Who hosted the show, then him, then any other, you know, major. performers that have money. That's just how it works. But anyway, I get... Marilyn Manson or Eminem or or Oswald's Born or whatever.
Starting point is 01:40:08 I got totally off topic, guys. I was about just ask, so you went instead of your granddaughters. Is that the story? I was going to go. Well, actually, if I hadn't gone to Chicago with AJ, there was a really good chance I would have gone because I'm trying to fill up my concert part for the end of the year.
Starting point is 01:40:25 100% have went with you. That seems like it. be a fun one. Yep, and we've missed a few shows that I meant to go to this year. But moving on, Antlers, you guys gave it some pretty high marks. I can't go quite that high. I definitely give it higher than the relic. But I will go seven, seven on ten.
Starting point is 01:40:47 Good movie. That's like us giving a nine. That's pretty good. Good movie. Okay, so like you remember that one that I started talking before. I knew what I was going to say. That ghost movie with the Australian chick that used to be married to Tom Cruise. Ghost fester.
Starting point is 01:41:06 The others. Oh, Nicole Kidman. Yeah, Nicole Kidman. There she is. There you go. So, like that one,
Starting point is 01:41:15 if you kind of think back on it, I think that I sort of forget about that movie sometimes, but I feel like I underrated it at the time that I watched it, you know? Yeah, I mean, on it, I think it's a pretty decent movie. I think this one falls in that territory.
Starting point is 01:41:35 Nice. Sounds like it may end up on your top ten. You want to get more random? Isn't she playing Lucille Ball in an upcoming movie? Nicole Kidman? She might not be bad at that, actually. I could actually kind of see that. Yeah, I'm trying to picture
Starting point is 01:41:53 it. I can't quite. I think I was going to watch the trailer, but I seen like a still for it. It's that classic episode where she's making the wine, crushing the grapes. Oh. Just looking at it quickly,
Starting point is 01:42:10 I thought it was a steal from, I love Lucy, but it was a steal from the movie as the Col Kidman as Lucy. That's a great show, man. Love that, man. Love it. All right. Spoilers.
Starting point is 01:42:28 Spoilers. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Although we, I guess we kind of...
Starting point is 01:42:47 Yeah, spoilers probably won't take too long. But, spoilers. There's a windigo movie. There's a windigo. Okay, I just wanted to point out. I just wanted to point out that it did a good job. setting up characters that I hated because I fucking hated the principal.
Starting point is 01:43:05 Lance, you brought it up when she was like, well, it's better there at school because they could be at home selling meth with their parents or walking around smelling like meth or doing this and doing that. So at least they're coming to school. Very just mental. And then fucking
Starting point is 01:43:20 fat Damon, you fuck. I've arrested his father many times on multiple charges, but State says, he's going to take care of him so my hands are tied but that's a small town you know you got to understand that did you you live in you live in Alaska the biggest city in Alaska we stop we stop out as what hundred twelve people in it little too huh where I thought the largest city in Alaska has three hundred and twelve population my city is close to 400,000 population so
Starting point is 01:43:58 Okay. Talking about my town. All right. We stop out meth. Don't hate. Oh, that's come. Oh, that's a mother fucker. Hey, Fat Damon got his in the end of the movie at the very, very end of the movie.
Starting point is 01:44:11 All right. We'll be back in Antlers, too. That's not really getting yours is when you're going to become the windigo. And nobody sees him fucking eyes and mouth and nose, fucking black goo coming out. Yeah. My favorite part, though, was the like him coming out of his skin thing. Yes, the transformation.
Starting point is 01:44:33 Yeah, that totally caught me off guard. I was like, holy shit, what's happening? They had... Pull that rubbery face off? Yes. That coroner had no... She did not know what to do. It was like...
Starting point is 01:44:47 It looked like something bursted out of the body. The body's singed. It's been burned. And I was just like, oh, gosh. But yeah, when you seen the wind ago, when he was feeding and he turned around and he had a human face on as a mask. Yes. I was like,
Starting point is 01:45:03 it was like nightmare stuff. That was the difference between the ruins, when to go and this when to go. Like when he stood up in the ruins and it kind of had the weird human face thing, it was like it was cool, but it was weird. This one was fucking terrifying because it was just like a checks of chainsaw mask or skin mask,
Starting point is 01:45:25 you know? Yeah. And the scream too, because it was. creature part person at the same time. Almost like, oh my gosh, annihilation. Yes. That weird creature had that kind of scream, human scream that kind of faded and it went into like a roar.
Starting point is 01:45:49 That's what I imagine a windigo would sound like. Yeah, I could see that. I don't ever want to run into a windigo ever. Give me a big... That's what... That's what kind of disappointed me about that movie Gaia. Have you seen that?
Starting point is 01:46:07 Have you seen Guyia from this year? Yeah, I liked it. Yeah, I liked it, but it was a downer because I thought it was going to be more like Annihilation, you know? Oh, I got you. I think Annihilation did it a lot better. That's another one that was kind of long...
Starting point is 01:46:24 We're not going to get a sequel, are we? Yeah. Probably not. That's a shame. There are two more books in the series. I've read them all. I really like that movie, man. That was a good one.
Starting point is 01:46:34 Yeah, that bear, demon, creature, whatever. Yeah. That was such a cool design right there. But, yeah, there's not really too much to spoil on antlers. I mean, it's pretty much straightforward story. You know, a teacher thinks of kids being abused and come to find out that he's not being abused. he's taking care of his locked away father and brother who is slowly changing into the windigo
Starting point is 01:47:04 and nobody really knows it until Graham Green's character comes in and is like, look, stupid white people, this is, this is how it is because, man, he's fucking, everything he's telling him, all the signs are kind of going that way. The coroner is like, I don't know what's going on. Yeah. And Fat Damon's over here, like, I don't believe any of this shit
Starting point is 01:47:30 until I'm bleeding black tears at the end of the movie. Well, he got gored by it a few times. Yeah, he did. How did he live? How did he live through that, you know? Yeah. And what happened to the original one? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:47:49 That's a good question. Antler's freaking. Bram Green's character did say when they went to that cave, he was like, if I was you, I wouldn't go any further down. Yeah. So maybe there's more down there. Yeah. Because you remember they had all the medicine bags. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:05 Hung up. Don't pass. Matt Damon. He's the worst sheriff ever. A meth community. And he's like, well, as long as the kids go to school, my hands are tied. He gets ready to sign out.
Starting point is 01:48:24 That guy doesn't even drive his own car. This is deputy driving around. Yeah. When you get to the top. Yeah. Damn, I don't want to take a point off. He didn't get his comeuppance. I didn't hate him, hating.
Starting point is 01:48:43 There could be a sequel. Don't give up. That fucking kid that was picking on him, I was ready for him to die. Oh, yeah. Red-headed kid. Yeah, a little red-headed kid. His reactions are slow. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:48:55 You don't see this creature in front of you and you're just going to, Oh, oh. Well, I like that the dad the whole time was like trying to not hurt his kids. Like, you could tell he still had some kind of control. Yeah, it was one of those weird relationships where you can tell he's clearly doing stuff that is not in the best interest of his kids, but he still tries to take care of his kids. Yeah, well, he was like, it was like, werewolf style. Lock me in this room. Hmm.
Starting point is 01:49:23 Good point, yeah. Chame me up to this in the basement, right? And he was still able to, you know, formulate thoughts and stuff. Because once he's like my brother, I think my brother's sick. And then he just immediately grabbed the brother, brought him in there. And he was like, lock the door. Yeah. Right.
Starting point is 01:49:43 So, I don't know. Pretty good movie. Yeah. Guillermo, you need to start fucking directing movies, stop producing. Yeah. Well, he's got one. He's got one coming out with Bradley Cooper, right? Yeah, I'm not interested in that one.
Starting point is 01:49:57 Yeah. We'll see. what's coming up on the action returns Brian I haven't seen a show in a while well 31 days is in the books I want to give an extra special shout out to Nez I mean that guy grinded
Starting point is 01:50:14 for the whole month put an episode out every day along with E-society episodes so we were kind of putting it on the back burner that in stream fiends but we will be back Uh, next, uh, action returns will be spawn, 1997 spawn.
Starting point is 01:50:34 Not a, is there a new one or a new one coming out or? It's kind of, I'm, I'm going to label it in developmental hell because it was announced. Budget was announced. Todd McFarland was going to step into the director's seat. And Blumhouse was backing it. And Jamie Fox and, um, Hawkeye, uh, what's his name? name, Jeremy Renner. What more do you need?
Starting point is 01:51:01 That maybe should have come out a year ago then. Yeah, they announced it like two, three years ago. And now they're saying that Jamie Fox might not be attached to it because of basically nothing. Binder Man. Nothing's being done right now. Is he going to go back and play Electro? Yeah, Electro. Is he really?
Starting point is 01:51:21 Yeah, he is. Yeah. But it's not, it's not that electro. But it's not that electro. oh no it's not the blue whatever we got it's a different electro play the same person oh boy philip oi
Starting point is 01:51:37 yeah they probably were calling him up and was like you want to do you want to do it right this time or like Ryan Reynolds you want to fix this mess that we made I'm sorry but uh yeah we got that coming and we still have
Starting point is 01:51:55 see no evil hear no evil with Richard Pryor and Gene Wilder coming for stream fans. I love that one. And wrestling returns will return. Neither we're going to do the recent NXT Halloween Havoc, which I think, Nez, we need to do it
Starting point is 01:52:14 because WWE just released 18 more wrestlers due to, I'm doing air quotes, budget cuts. Whoa. WWE not doing so hot anymore? What's going on? well if you look at the books the the financial statements they put out they're doing as well as ever but my opinion the storylines and what they do with their talent no they're not and they just released a whole bunch of talent that is probably when they're uh no compete clause contracts end up
Starting point is 01:52:50 they're going to get picked up because uh w.E they like to do the We'll release you, but you can't go side with anybody for like 90 days. Yeah. So I'll sit home. You don't have to go home, but you can't stay here. I get it. Exactly. And we got that coming.
Starting point is 01:53:10 And then some bonus episodes. And then I think me and Ness are working on another new show. But don't have all the details yet. The good news is we have a one-stop shop. guys. We do. Thank you guys for listening. It is called www.
Starting point is 01:53:31 the horror returns.com. I have heard about that. You can literally scroll down and click on a link directly to any episode or any of the shows. So, bam. So Lance. That's all we need to say. If I wanted to say get some merchandise, I can go to this website.
Starting point is 01:53:50 When you go to the top of the website, it says a company store or buy here or something. I don't know. Company store. What if I want to find social media pages? Can I go to this website? Every single one. Every single one has a link to it, man.
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Starting point is 01:54:25 god damn it I wish they had them but you can get coffee mugs you can't get shot glasses set it and forget it
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Starting point is 01:54:46 probably he was like a hundred years old 30 years ago you can you can you can literally buy a mask.
Starting point is 01:54:57 A COVID mask. Oh, I thought a wrong mask. Set it and forget it. All right, guys. Next week, we're going to do a Thanksgiving commentary for 1987's blood range. I, or blood rage, sorry. I think we have a guest, but I can't remember who I promise could be on. So whoever you are, if you're listening, remind us, and we'll get you on there.
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