The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #287: Ghostbusters (1984), Ghostbusters II (1989) & Ghostbusters: Afterlife (2021)

Episode Date: November 24, 2021

This week we are joined by special guest, Sammie the Comic Book Man himself, Sammie Cassell from Wreak Havoc Film Buffs and Carolina Haints podcast, to celebrate the Ghostbusters franchise. Cool of the Week includes vintage movie posters, Ghostbusters 2016, Billy Summers, and Gangs of London. Trailer this week is Death Metal. Feedback will return next week, but you will not be missed. Thanks for listening!

victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language.

Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back, one and all to the horror returns. I'm Lance, and with me as always, are my co-hosts Brian Phillip. Nez might jump in later tonight for the main attraction, so we got them in the call in case he becomes available.

But tonight we got a special guest. I was told not Sammy Cassell, but rather Sammy Castle. That is correct. And, of course, you're known for a couple of podcasts, Reek Havoc, Film Buffs, and Carolina Haints. So tell us a little bit about those, man, before you tell us about your film work. Rik Havoc Film Buffs is my production partner and I, Dan Sellers, and occasional guests that we pick a movie and kind of do it, Mystery Science Theater 3,000 style for a podcast.

So we watch the movie and kind of talk about it as it goes. It used to be, we start off doing every other week. It's kind of sporadic now. Dan and I both are very, very busy. So when we can get together, we do it. and then Carolina Haints is an exploration of local legends and lore and ghost stories. And they're range anywhere between 15 and 30 minutes, maybe might cover a couple different topics. I don't have a lot to do with that podcast other than some production stuff.

And I helped I helped write the book. we just released a book based on it and I was Jeff Jeff Cochran actually writes the podcast and Dan Sellers does the helped write and does the voice stuff. He actually reads it. And then we all, there's a group of us that kind of contribute stories and stuff like that to it. Nice. All right. So I'm guessing that you guys don't just do

horror stuff, right? You do all kinds of movies? Oh, you talk about the movie. Yeah, no, we do all sorts of stuff. Like, earlier this year, we did our top ten dramas of all time. So we kind of, we're both, you know,

really big film fans, regardless. Most time during October, we'll do a lot of horror stuff. Our forte filmmaking-wise is horror comedies. So we do, you know, we do a lot of,

of that stuff too. But, yeah, we kind of cover a little bit of everything. Have you guys ever done Shocker, West Craven Shocker? No. I don't know. I don't know. I don't know if I brought that up to Dan. I come up with some weird ones sometimes.

We haven't talked about Shocker, but I will definitely put it on my list because that soundtrack is amazing. Yeah, it is. and I think it broke all of us, didn't it, Brian? I wasn't on that episode, but... You missed out. All right.

What about your film stuff, man? I own a... Dan and I own a production company called Recavick Productions. I've done... God, I can't remember. I've lost track of how many films we've done now. And then I also act for other people. I did that kind of getting started and getting out in the independent film world

and so we could cherry pick who we kind of like to work with. So Dan doesn't have a lot of time. He's got three young ones at home. So mine are grown and gone. So I'll go out and work with other production companies and then we'll start bringing people in like a sound person if we need them or a backup DP or something like that. And then here recently I've had a little run of kind of big time background stuff. I did.

I'm very briefly in Walking Dead World Beyond, the pilot episode. And then I'm in, I have a couple seconds in eyes of Tammy Faye, the Jim and Tammy Faye Baker. Oh, shit. Okay. Jessica Chastain, Andrew Garfield, who are wonderful on set. But my big claim right now is I had a good five seconds center screen in Halloween kills, which was fun. My messenger and phone blew up for about two weeks after that. Did evil die that night?

You know, it's funny. We spent a good 14 hours down there that night, and we chanted evil, must die a thousand times. And everything we did, they didn't use, except for that one scene that I'm in where the body, the guy jumped out the wind and falls and we're all standing on top of the body looking at it. That's the only thing they used out of 14 hours of filming. Okay. Now that was the nurse and the doctor scene, the one you're talking about?

No, the patient that they, that they thought was Michael Myers that was running around the hospital. Gotcha. A little guy who looks just like Michael Myers. It was a terrible storyline. But you got me in the mood. That's in the mood. All right, man.

Well, we definitely appreciate you joining in. Anything else at all you want to pitch that's going on or anything that you're involved in besides that? I have a my big favorite thing is I have a presentation I do at a lot of local schools and libraries and stuff called Sammy the comic book man where I go in and I do kind of a show and tell with kids I've done a couple senior centers too but I just talk I explain how comments are made what got me into reading hitting kind of the pop culture points along the line. I talk about women in comics and like from the writer-artist side. And then every kid leaves with two comic books. So I do probably a 30-minute, 30-to-45-minute presentation, and I do a Q&A at the end if they've got a bunch of questions or anything.

And then every kid leaves with two books. and it's, I've done probably two dozen of them now. There was a documentary film without it. So that's, yeah, that's kind of my heart and soul. I love doing that stuff. And some of the, I've had some great stories. Once a year, we also host a workshop where I bring professional artists and writers in to work with the kids for the day.

So it's, it's been very successful and very, I never charged to do it. It's just something that I want to see. I like to see kids read, but I specifically want to see them continue to read comic books. Nice. Man, that's, Brian, you've got to be super impressed with that, man. Yeah, that sounds awesome.

I want to go to one of those. Get some free comic books, too. And they're typically gender-based, you know, girls leave with a, a female-led book and a superhero book, and then, you know, guys get two superhero books. And they're funny because I make them, I make a promise that they'll read their books before they start trading or anything.

Hmm. All right. Idea. Yeah. It's so hard to get kids to read these days. Yeah, no kidding. Well, it kind of started because I had a, I bought a collection, and it was a bunch of duplicate stuff. Mm-hmm.

So I put out a thing on Facebook, and I was like, hey guys, if you've got kids, send me their age, their gender, and some of their interests, and I'll send you a pack of comic votes for free. And out of that, this kind of spun out of that. Damn. Oh, man, Naz would love you if you did Blu-Rays instead of comic books. I don't know. I collect those.

Yeah, he'd be pushing little kids out of the line, jumping up to the front. All right, man. Well, we like to, Sammy, we get started with a little thing that we, we call Cool of the Week, man. Okay. And it could be anything at all. It does not have to be horror related. So any movie, TV show, video game books, something that left an impression on you this week that you consider your cool of the week?

Okay. I'm going to tell a semi-brief of the story. I'll try to keep it brief. That's good. That's what we're here for. Our director of photography, our normal director of photography, is a guy named Zach Fox. And his parents own a couple

movie theaters. So he's literally grown up in the movie business. And I've known him since he was eight. He's the same age as my youngest daughter. And Zach's just kind of come. He goes to all the Sony retreats and he's

really studied the business. So we use him as our director of photography almost all the time. Great eye. So he calls me he knows I collect movie posters I hope you know I try to collect vintage stuff but some of that stuff's really hard to find so he calls me last week and he goes hey we cleaned out the the other theater upstairs and I've got a box of

posters I want you to come you can come go through and I was like really and that the theater was a two-screen theater that's been open since 43, I think. Oh, shit. So I go over and he pushes this box, this gigantic box in front of me, and I start going

through it. And I'll say that, yeah, I got a little, probably a little aroused. I ended up out of that with the original Exorcist One sheet. And a original Halloween one sheet. Some other stuff like

the first movie I ever saw on a drive-in was called Metal Storm 3D. He had one of those posters. Original poltergeist and original phantasm, some American werewolf

in London and Friday 13th lobby cards. So that That was. Yeah, I got a nice little haul out of it. You know, Zach, he's like, you know, throw me a couple butts. You know, you've helped me through, make all my movies and everything. Just, just do that.

So I am, are you any of your wrestling fans? Yep. Okay. So Charles Robinson, the referee for D.D.B. is a friend of mine. Nice. And a massive horror collector. So I called him last week and I said, hey, let's get together and have lunch. He said, you coming to me?

Am I coming up? I said, I'll come down to you. Well, his big collection is American Werewolf in London stuff. So I took him an entire lobby set of American Werewolf in London, and he was ecstatic. So he said, I'll tell you what, Smackdowns here in Green. Greensboro this Friday. He said, I'll have tickets waiting on you when you get there. I said, see, that's why we're friends.

So I got to get through a bunch of cool movie stuff and movie memorabilia, and I got to have lunch with the WWE referee. Well, I think for the first time in THR history, guys, we're now done with Cool of the Week. That was pretty awesome. I do a lot of cool stuff. I'm lucky. That's amazing, dude.

Do you want to jump in, Phil? Yeah, I don't know if I can follow that act. That's why I'm making you go next. I didn't do a whole lot cool this week, except we were doing a Ghostbusters binge, and so I went ahead and through the 2016 Ghostbusters in there with it. And that's really all I've seen. so it's by default my cool. And, you know, I get it.

It's not awesome, but it probably doesn't deserve a lot of the hate that it gets. It's not as bad as they make it out to be. Yeah. So it was at least enjoyable to watch. All right. Well, I'll throw up. We usually let Brian go last, Sammy, because he's usually got 12 or 13. So I'm going to go with a book this time, guys.

I've read Stephen King's newest book, Billy Summers. And it has absolutely nothing to do with horror whatsoever. It's a lot closer to like the Mr. Mercedes books that he's written. He's getting more into these, like, you know, crime, like pulp type crime books. But the character, Billy Summers is a sniper, and it talks about his days in the war. and how he became a sniper. And it's like he's writing his history while he's also in a new adventure, where he's been hired by the mob to take this guy out.

And he starts to kind of smell a rat. And sure enough, he ends up on the lamb with a bunch of people after him. So not going to give any more way, man, because that would be telling. And we don't do that here. So if you like to read it. Yeah, that doesn't at all sound like Stephen King. That's crazy. No, not at all, man.

that's what's good about it. But you can tell it his style comes through. And it's probably about a 350 page book, and I blew through it pretty quickly. So that's always a good sign. So yeah, check out Billy Summers. All right. I checked out a bunch of shows this week that just came out.

But I'm actually going to wait to talk about those because I need to watch a couple more episodes to really see if I'm going to stick with them or not. But the one I am going to stick with is It already has like two seasons out and it's on AMC Plus called Gangs of London. You guys heard of this one? I've heard of it. I've heard of it.

I hope it's better than the new fucking Dexter, New Blood that I just watched today. I've heard bad things about that. Gangs of London, it got me the first episode. It's, of course, set in London. The main guy that's the head of the family, Lance. He was Star Trek Generations, kind of the Scotty role. Ah, okay. I can't remember the actor's name.

But where it got me is there's a bar room brawl that breaks out, and it just turns into the raid. That's what kind of action you get in the movie. And it just hooked me in right there. And the main guy that was doing the fighting was, Lance, you just talked about his movie. He was in his house, the Netflix movie. The main actor, yeah. He is a complete badass in this TV series. So I'm going to stick with that one.

And Mayor of East Town with Hawkeye, Jeremy Renner. Yeah. That first episode was very interesting. Him and Kyle Chandler, their brothers, that kind of run the prison somewhere in Michigan. And basically, since they run the prison, they got their hands in things that are going on in the prison and outside the prison. And it's so far pretty interesting. So gangs of London and mayor of Kingstown.

I know Phillips not going to watch it because it's on his arch nemesis, the Paramount Plus. Paramount Plus. It doesn't mean I won't watch it. Aha. Okay. I thought that I don't support the content. Right? just don't want to pay, you just don't want to pay

Paramount Plus, huh? Yeah, well, it's gotten out of hand at this point. They were just the first ones where I was like, hey, no, wait a minute, you're supposed to be free. But now they're already charging for everything, so what are you going to do? There's a couple of other shows that I'm I'm going to watch a couple more episodes, and I'll talk

about it next week. I take it you didn't start Dexter New Blood. Have you ever watched that, Sammy? Dexter? No. Through the 90s, I was coaching fast-pitched softball. I missed all like Buffy, Firefly, Dexter,

just a big hole in my TV watching there. Right. So you never checked out Lost probably, did you? No. Lost I did yet. Oh, you did? Okay. Yeah.

Lost is one. I think I started in the second season. So my youngest daughter and I binge the first season on DVD. and then we started watching the second season. Hard to find time when you got kids, man. I understand that. Holy moly. And we played travel softball, high school softball,

travel volleyball, high school volleyball. Yeah, it was, and two kids. So it was not. We're about to run into that. Oh, boy. All right. Is that it, Brian? Yep, that's it for this week.

All right. That means it is now time for horror headlines brought to you by Brian. Take it away, man. All right. Speaking about Paramount Plus, they are developing a series adaptation of 1987's Fatal Attraction. Okay. Because, you know, we all were dying for a fatal attraction series.

A series? Yeah, and they already have Lizzie Kaplan is attached to starring. Oh, well, I like her. Well, will we get the scene in the chair, though, with her? Oh, that was, wasn't that basic instinct you're talking about? Oh, okay.

I know, I was trying to keep him straight in a minute. Fatal attraction. Okay, maybe I've totally forgotten what, tell me what fatal attraction is again, guys. Because not only do we not know horror, we also don't know drama, apparently. What was her name? Yeah.

I'm a Kim Bay Singer. Okay. Mike, yeah, I got you. I think he's married, but she's all trying to, she's trying to get him to her instead of his wife. That's the one where they killed the bull to rabbit. Yeah, okay, now I remember. It's actually Glenn Close was in Palat, right?

Hey, what's the difference? That was the hand that rocks the cradle. We're really showing our butts, man. The hand of rocks and cradle was Rebecca DeMorne. Oh, right. We are terrible, too. We can play this. We can play this all night, Sammy, and we usually do.

It's one of those, you know, fatal attraction. All right. All flat on his face then. An actor will be talking about later on tonight. Finn Wolfhardt plans to make his feature film directorial debut. What a slasher movie? What? He's moving into directing now.

That was all that quick. Yeah, he's kind of got his, kind of got his fingers in each. He has a band currently that he's in as a record deal. doing the acting and I guess he wants to get into directing now. Hmm. Well, I mean, hey, I hope he can do it. More power to him, right? Yeah, we'll have to wait and see, I suppose.

I mean, I'm not expecting much. Let's see. Paramount, they're developing a remake of Stan Winston's Pumpkinhead. Oh. Oh. Why? Why? A little cry.

Sammy, if Lance Henriksen is in it, as long as his handler, if one of us can just get his handler away from him at Texas Frightmare, we'll have that interview finally that we were promised. But boy, do we have a horror story about that, man. All right, Lance. I've met him in a couple of cons, obviously, but he did a movie called crap. It was filmed here in North Carolina

and the guys I used to work for at a halt actually wrote and directed it. Okay. That's pretty... Oh, crap. Shit, give me a minute. Pretty recently? Was it... It was 24... No, God, it wasn't...

20... Yeah, 24. maybe. Okay. Well, he does a lot of shit. So we could be here a while. So you got a chance to actually work with him? Not directly. Just I got to meet him through that process.

Dark awakening. Dark awakening. It's in 2014. Ah, okay. All right. I have heard of that one. He seems like a pretty cool guy. Yeah, he's pretty cool.

My interactions have been cool with him anyway. Yeah, he's very cool. His handler at Fright Mirror that year, not so much. Jeez. But I don't know, man. Maybe we'll bring a 20 or something next time, huh? Try to slip her a 20. I don't know.

Here you go. I don't think that's great. It works. Probably not. She was pretty beholden to maintaining that we weren't going to get our interview. We were promised. All right. A couple more things here.

I'm going to butcher his name, even though I'm a fan of his films. Timo Tejanto, he did the, what was it, the VHS segments, Safe Haven and the newest one, Lance? Oh, yeah, the one with the half-rifice. robot half human people that the mad doctor is experimenting on. Yeah, he was hired to direct the train to Busan remake and

it is tentatively titled, this could change, last train to New York. Hard about that. Oh, for God's sake. Why remake that movie? It's so good. You know, they always

got to do the American remake. All of the news stories are about remakes. Yeah, well, I'm throwing a little non-horror news. He's also hired to do Under-Sage series remake for HBO Max.

Stephen Segal is in it. I would watch him do anything. Got to. Maybe Stephen Seagall can team up with Moose from the fanatic. Oh, my God. Sold.

All right, my... I think we found our sequel. All right, my last thing is not a remake or reboot. It is Leonardo DiCaprio has been hired to play religious cult leader Jim Jones in the upcoming film titled Jim Jones. Wow. Was Jim Jones a real person? Yes. Oh, yeah.

Which thing was that? You've been drinking the Kool-Aid, Philip. Oh, is that that guy? No, not yet. He's the Kool-A guy. The Kool-A guy? Not the rapper. Not the rapper.

And not the jug of Kool-Aid that goes bursting through the walls going, oh, yeah. Oh, Jones Town. Okay, yeah, I got you. Jones Town, yeah. Cool. All right. And that is, that is it. Oh, I'm checking here recently.

Really, Scott, I guess, is doing a blade runner. series because the movie was great. So let's do the series. All right. Well, what do you think about that, Sammy? Are you in for a Blade Runner series? I don't know. Sorry.

I got muted and getting unmute. Blade Runner, I don't. I mean, I guess that's one they could make into a series, but I don't, I mean, I haven't seen, I haven't even seen 2049. You don't need to. And I'm not, I like Blade Runner, but I'm not one of those super duper Blade Runner people. You know, I like Harrison Ford, but that, that movie's a little flat at times. Right.

so I got you back on that one I think you're right I don't even think Harrison could even make it through a series because I heard that guy got hurt again

doing the Indiana Jones Indiana Jones 5 oh well I hope you got that do a Blade Runner series I don't I don't think he would do TV

regardless oh yeah they'd have to recast that I would hope you're right but you never know Kevin Costor seems to be doing pretty well with the Yellowstone, so never say never. Yeah, but Kevin Costner kind of still gives a shit.

I don't care. In all fairness, I don't know that Harrison Ford ever gave a shit. That's good point. Lance, so you go to check out the prequel series? Absolutely. Yeah, I think what's it, 1883 or something like that? Yeah. like the forming when they formed the ranch for the first time.

Yeah, I love a good Western. It's got Sam Elliott in it. It does. It does. Yep. And Tim McGraw and Faith Hill, right? Yeah, I'm a little worried about how many country stars they got acting in it. But Sam Elliott is, I mean, my wife can drool, which makes me happy because that gets her in the mood.

I love it And that is the coolest dude of all time Yep Hard to argue with that All right, that's the news All right, well Sammy, you ready to take a little trip with us, ma'am? Absolutely. All right, well, I didn't tell you where we're going, so we're about to take a little trip

down to the trailer park. Oh, boy. Yep. Brian is going to be bringing us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. What's our first new trailer tonight, Brian? Our first and only trailer this week, we are going to talk about death to metal. A quick synopsis here. After a freak accident, a disturbed priest is transformed into a mutated killing machine on a mission to wipe out the

godless fans of heavy metal music. Written by Tipper Gore. This is directed by Tim Connery and let's see, starring Chelsea Byers, Dan Flannery, Andrew Jessup and Ben Johnson. Sam, Sammy, did you check out the trailer? No, I didn't. I'm sorry.

I missed that. I missed the rules of engagement there. I'm sorry. Toss it over to Phil then. Yeah, man. I'm down. This is the one Lars was talking about last week, right? Yeah, I think so.

Yeah. That's right. It looks gory for gory's sake and probably a crazy good time. So. What'd you think about it, Phil? It's nuts. But I'll watch it. well so lars kind of turned us on to this one and if you guys remember he also turned us on to el dia de la bestia

oh i love that movie i picked up the 4k this is kind of like the polar this is the polar opposite of that instead of a priest and a metalhead uh forming a team to defeat satan this is like a priest i guess engaging satan by killing metalheads or what's going on here? It just looks like good, crazy fun. And I'll be sending you guys a little something through the email, so we can check it out. Oh, sweet.

Oh, okay. Paramount Plus style. What's that, Sammy? I said, does that include me? I can see what I can do. Yeah. I'm a middle-headed. of what's still to this day up one side and down to others.

So there you go. All right. This one currently has a release date of, does not, November 1st. I think that was, because it's making the festival rounds, but I think the actual release day will be sometime next week.

Good holiday movie. Coming quick. Yeah, there you go. Perfect Christmas movie. It's got a lot of red, not so much green, but, you know. and that's the only trailer I was going to throw on the Spider-Man trailer

but I've heard way too much about it more than I want to before I actually watch the new movie so yeah they're good at that especially Sony yeah

can I tell a little story about a death of metal kind of thing that happened to me sure cool when I was a teenager in the 80s but I have no musical ability whatsoever. But what I do have is a pretty good ear, and I'm pretty good at electronic.

So I got tied in with a hair metal band, and I did sound, and I built our lighting rig with timbre switches and all sorts of stuff, out of coffee cans and incandescent bulbs. But anyway, we'd heard about a local, this was in Southwest Virginia, rural South. southwest Virginia. So we'd heard about a preacher coming to a local church who was going to do a sermon about heavy metal. So we all got dressed up in our finest spandex and leather stuff, teased all our hair up and rolled up in that church like nobody's business. Went to the second row, I think, and sit down right in the center. Wow. We listened to the entire sermon.

He covered backmasking. He covered satanic stuff in metal and rock. And did probably an hour long sermon about this. So when it gets done, he makes a B-line for us. As soon as he gets off the full bit and makes a B-line for us. And gives us all these books and cassettes and all. all this stuff talking about. He didn't,

he didn't try to push his beliefs off on us. He just said, here, listen to read this stuff and, and, you know, write me and tell me what you think. Do you believe this stuff? Da da, da, da, da. Then we left,

and it was like, it looked like the Beatles had landed. Every kid in that audience was standing outside wanting an autograph from us. Had North had it was a word. And I said, so this guy shows up to preach about metal and how bad it is to all these kids. And they're all standing outside wanting our autographs because they think we're the coolest things on, you know, on the planet. Oh, man.

And we were giving out cassettes and all sorts of stuff. So it was, that was kind of a tie into this with a preacher kind of trying to kill metal. Man. Mission accomplished, man. Striper meets Motley crew, huh? That's awesome. All right. That's, I guess we're skipping listener feedback this week.

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But now we'll move on to our feature attractions this week. It's a Ghostbuster Marathon, mostly, except the aforementioned 2016. I guess that one doesn't count. Actually, there's a few more. Ghostbusters when I was trying to look it up. There's like a Lego Ghostbusters. And there's like a Freddy versus Ghostbusters something or other. I think they do it in toys.

You guys ever heard of that? No. I know, but I kind of want to watch it now. I'll be that. Anyway, but we're going to go with Ghostbusters 1 and 2 and the brand new Ghostbusters Afterlife. So, naturally, we'll start out with the first one in 1984. Uh, three parapsychologists forced out of their university funding set up shop in a unique ghost removal service in New York City.

Uh, attracting frightened yet skeptical customers. Um, director is Ivan Reitman, also known for stripes and meatballs. Uh, writers are Dan Aykroyd, Harold Ramis and Rick Moranis. Oh, I don't know. He wrote it too. Mm-hmm. Um, when, uh, Louis, Louis, uh, uh, uh, Louis, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Louis, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, uh, Louis, mingles with his party guests, commenting on the price of the salmon and so on. The scene is one continuous shot and almost entirely improvised. That's kind of a genius. Harold Ramis only intended to write the film.

He decided to play Dr. Egon Spangler after he felt he was the best person suited for the role. And it's a good thing he did. All right, Sammy, what did you think about Ghostbusters? You know, I don't remember seeing this in the theater. I'm sure I picked it up on VHS as soon as it came out. But as a horror fan, you know, the title alone caught my eye. But then I was like, it's Bill Murray.

I've seen him in meatballs. I've seen him in stripes. I've seen him on Saturday Night Live. I knew Dan Aykroy from Blues Brothers. It's going to be a comedy. you know, but I'm curious to see what's going on. Little did I know that it was going to be, I don't think anybody knew how much of a beloved family gateway horror movie this was going to be.

It's one of the, I've got a friend and actually she's the mother of a kid that I met through the comic book man stuff, who's 13 now. And last week I took Ghostbusters 1 and 2 up there for her to see for the first time to prepare her for this one, for afterlife. And to see it through her eyes after seeing it through my kid's eyes and kind of three kind of different generations, everybody reacts to it the same way. It's comedy. it's got a couple of jump scares which you can't

you know you can't gloss over too well too much but it's it's tremendously well acted the the special effects hold up really well maybe more for one than two

but we'll get into that later but it's I mean it's it's one of the it's one of my top 20 movies of all time period Oh, wow. Man, strong words. Big words.

Lance, what do you think? Oh, yeah, I'm not going to say top 20 of all time. That's, man, wow, that's high praise, dude. But it's definitely a classic. So I actually watched this after afterlife. Interestingly enough, because my wife and I were out of vacation. So I had to talk her into leaving our sightseeing for a little. a while and go to the movie theater.

So she wasn't too happy to go at first. Once she was a little bit into afterlife, I think she started getting into it. We'll talk about that later. So Ghostbusters 1 and 2, as fate would have it, were both on TV when we got back to the hotel room. So I was able to kind of check them all out, but it was after afterlife. So this one's obviously a lot more on the comedy side. This was not really a straight-up comedy. I guess like Sammy said, there's a few jump scares in there.

There's a couple of kind of adult jokes that I don't think the kids got. Philip, did you watch it with your kids? Yeah, I did. I don't think they caught on. They didn't catch on the librarian or whatever it was seen. Yeah. And, you know, one or two is not awful. You can kind of gloss over that.

That's true. Yeah, kind of easy to. gloss over and move on. I remember I did catch this one in the movie theater. I went with a buddy of mine from high school. His name was Mack McLean about, I guess they ask him, what's the most Scottish name you can think of? And that's what his parents came up with.

But his dad took us to see it. And I'll never forget, after that, we went to one of those Chinese restaurants where you order like seven or eight different dishes and put them on the lazy Susan. so everybody kind of gets a little bit of everything. So it was a memorable night, but I definitely remember cracking up when the marshmallow man comes out at the end.

I thought that was movie magic. As a matter of fact, I can look at my cell phone right now, and I've got a picture of my granddaughter at Six Flags, holding the Staypuff marshmallow man that she won at a game that we played at Six Flags. So, yeah, the movie will always be nearly, dear to my heart. Was it just me or toward the end? Was Bill Murray a little over the top of being an asshole? I mean, he took that Asps, very dangerous, you go first. He took that almost to the extreme,

didn't he? Yeah, but it was still funny. It was still funny. Sigourney Weaver, sexy as hell, man. I mean, wow, boy, she was, I mean, she, I've always liked her. She was, but she was a little bit more, I think Butch in like Alien for example. You know, more of a tough girl. And in this one, I think she was... Well, yeah, more of an ass kicker. And this one she was, I guess, a little bit. Well, have you guys ever seen a movie called Death and the Maiden that she was in with Sir Ben Kingsley?

Oh. Okay, so you've seen Hard Candy, right? Yeah. The one about the pedophile being caught? Patrick Wilson Yep, that's the one I would say that Death and the Maiden

would be a good double bill with that because Sigourney Weaver plays someone whose family was terrified and tortured by Nazis and she finds

one of the Nazis you know, of course this is a couple of decades later I think it was a I think it was like an early 90s movie or something like that so I think that's who

Sir Ben Kingsley played was like a member of the Nazi party that was involved and she keeps trying to convince him to admit that he is that person and he won't admit and spoiler alert for an older movie but at the end he finally breaks down

and it says yes that was me you know so she yeah great movie but I thought she was very elegant in that one and I would consider her very elegant in this film you know especially you know toward the end there when she's showing the legs and everything Rick Moranis just

fucking hilarious in everything that he's that he's ever done. You know, as far as the other Ghostbusters, I thought everybody was kind of perfect for who they played, loved seeing antipots there. You know, those kind of nerdy girls, but they're

kind of cute. Everybody loves that. William Atherton was a cock sucker as normal. Just an asshole as he is. Has he ever played somebody cool? Never. Never. I challenge anyone to. He gets

cast for a specific girl and he does it right. He does it right. I'm like a saw an interview where he bitched about it one time. Are you serious? Yeah. Yeah, bitching all the way to the bank. I mean, guys bitten in a lot, but yeah, no, it's an absolute classic, man.

It's very, very, very heavy on the comedy, very, very, very light on the scares. And I don't know, man, just really good chemistry with the Ghostbusters. I love it. Brian, what do you think? Oh, this is, I might have to agree with Sammy. This might be top 20 for me.

This movie is near and dear to my heart. This is, I didn't get to see this actually in the theater when I was young, but I did make up for that. I want to say right before the pandemic hit, my theater was showing it. So I got to take my daughter and kind of share that experience with her. Oh, wow. And, yeah, legendary cast, everybody in it is great.

the effects still hold up the music's iconic just i mean what what more can i say it's just great and there are the jump scares are are in there but i think they're done right in the comedy i don't think it was uh too heavy on the comedy i think uh it was a perfect mix of everything for me and um yeah iconic movie uh yeah definitely i'm gonna have to agree with all that it's uh I love Bill Murray. He's great in just about everything he does, even his off-the-wall wacky shit. Dan Aykroyd, I love that guy. And then who, who, it was originally supposed to be like Eddie Murphy and John Belushi, right?

Yeah. John Belushi had passed and Eddie Murphy, I think he, I forgot what he was doing. It might have been, it might have been one of the Beverly Hill Cop movies. Or like coming to America or something? Yeah, something because the Ernie Hudson role, the Winston was a much bigger, much bigger part in the movie when

they had Eddie Murphy. And then when he had to pass on it, they kind of shrunk down the role. Well, Ernie Hudson was perfect, man. I would not want to see anyone else play that role. Yeah, this movie would have been a lot different because I think another person

that was rumored to be up for it was John Candy. Right. John Candy was supposed to be in. Yeah. Okay. Who is he going to play? Then the female Ghostbusters would have

really been like the original Ghostbusters. Oh. Well, so yeah, with him and Maranis, you would add two SCTV Comedy Network alumni, huh? Yeah.

Yeah, and Rick Moranis is funny, man. I like that he's retired and kind of stuck to that, you know? He seems like an interesting kind of guy. Yeah, he did that because he had stepped away because his wife had got sick. And then when she passed, he just kind of was like, I'm just going to take care of my family from now on. So you got to respect that. Yeah.

But yeah, man, a lot of respect for the original Ghostbusters. Definitely one of my favorites. Um, let's go scores from one to ten. Sammy, what do you think? Who, um, oh, man. I'm kind of tough on rating systems like this. That's okay, so Lance. I'm not, uh, um, I don't give very many tens.

Um, uh, can I flounder a little bit and say 8.5? Yeah. Oh, yeah, absolutely. We give all kinds of 0.25, 3, 5, 6.4-7s. I don't get that far into it, but... I think we had a 6.66 one time, so... Oh, well, that kind of makes sense. Yeah, 8-5 is good.

Nice. Lance, what do you think? Man, I'm actually going half a point higher. Fuck, for once, I'm not the low man on the totem pole here. I'll give it a solid 9. and yeah, not top 20, I don't think for me, but, I mean, like, definitely in the top 100, for sure. Now, Stripes, Stripes would be top, top 20 for me. Just by the quotes alone, I can almost quote that entire movie.

I would say, yeah, of the three we talked about, I would say Stripes is on the top, then this one, and then meatballs somewhere under that. So it's definitely, definitely in the top 100 of all time for me. All right. Brian? Well, you guys know I don't give them out too much, but this is a temp for me. Oh, wow. Oh, man.

Like I said, this is just one of those childhood favorites of mine that it could come on my TV right now. I can sit down and watch it, and my daughter is into it. So that's another thing I can share with my daughter. Nice. Yeah, that's true. It's one that doesn't get old and has a lot of rewatchability. I'm going to go nine and a half. I think it's fucking fantastic, man.

I love this movie. I feel like I was too hard on it. Oh, man. It was my top 20? A lot of people, a lot of people giving it some love tonight, huh? All right. I mean, it's a classic. You can't.

I mean, when you're talking classic movies of all time, and, you know, I'm kind of partial because it was in my teenage will house. But, you know, one of my, one of the other big movies from that time frame was E.T. And it doesn't hold up nowhere near as well as this. Yeah, I think I totally agree with you on that. So I saw E.T. three times in the theater. But I was, you know, 12, 13. and it just the way it kind of happened.

This I wish I'd seen in the theater three or four times, if not more. Did you cry, Sammy? Be honest with this, man. Come on. For Ghostbusters? For E.T. Not as a kid. I'm probably more successful to it now than I am then. The older I get, the more sentimental I get.

I can see that. Yeah. I got you. Maybe the very first time I saw it, I don't remember. It was sad. All right. Well, instead of E.T., we're going to jump on over to Ghostbusters 2, which my wife seemed to mixed up with Ghostbusters 1.

We had a whole conversation about it. It was ridiculous. Yeah. She's like, oh, is that the one with, no, that's the first one. So a discovery of a massive river of ectoplasm. and resurgence of spectral activity allows the staff of Ghostbusters to revive the business.

Director, once again, is Ivan Reitman, and writers are Harold Ramos and Dan Aykroyd. While the role of Vigo, played by Wilhelm von Humberg, all his lines were dubbed by Max von Sido. Uh-oh.

Millie Vanilly. Wilhelm left the premiere in anger when he find out, Oh, I bet. Bill Murray told Entertainment Weekly that he was very disappointed with the way that the film turned out. He commented that those special effects guys took over, and it was too much of the slime and not enough of us. Huh. No, no, do we agree with that?

Sammy, what did you think about Ghostbusters, too? Not as good. Yeah. I actually watched it right before I came up here. I've recorded it yesterday. It was on AMC or something. They run Ghostbusters 1 and 2. So Lily still has my copy of Ghostbusters 2.

So I recorded it yesterday and watched it this evening. It does not hold up as well. I still like Dan Aykroyd. I still like Ray. He guns, okay. He's even more nerdy. that's possible. Yeah,

nerded him up in this one. Yeah. Ernie Hudson kind of is the, they give him a little more meat to his character, so he's better. Bill Murray is

obnoxious in this movie. And not in a fun Bill Murray kind of way. And isn't it, isn't, doesn't Peter McNichael play the weird guy that's running the gallery?

That guy. He's funny. that is such a weird, terrible character. Because if you look at that character now, you would think, oh, that guy's gay and not thinking nothing about it. But he's all about Sigourney Weaver. I don't know. And the river's slime underneath and it's pink instead of green. Yeah.

I mean, it's okay. But it's not nowhere near on the level. it doesn't have the heart of the first one either. Yeah, I guess I can see that. Lance? What do you think? Uh-oh. Lose Lance?

Uh, you want me to jump in? Yeah, go ahead. Okay, this I actually did see in the theater when I was a kid, and I was a little let down. Very confused. Very confused. Yeah, I first, Sammy, you brought it up. I didn't understand why the slime was pink.

Yeah. I didn't understand why after this big incident that happened in the first one, they were back to being kind of like a joke now. Like, nobody took them serious. I mean, you get, you get that opening scene where they're singing that. They're singing the damn theme song for some reason. Yeah. You know, like, I didn't understand that.

And then this kids start chanting he man. Like, I just like, did you guys just forget what happened not too long ago that fast? A couple of years before, huh? Yeah. Vigo, I kind of wish they would have did a little bit more than what they did with him. He was just kind of like a throwaway villain kind of character, kind of like how Marvel does a lot of their villains. It's kind of one and done and gone.

All right. Now, in Keelmonger's defense, he's shown up like three times already in the animated series at least. So there. The only thing I remember him from, from, he was one of the villains from, uh, diehard. Oh, this guy was? Yeah. Oh, that was dead, huh?

That's the only, um, I didn't, uh, the, the courtroom scene. I don't understand why Ernie Hudson's there and then he's gone. He doesn't even help. He's like completely underused in this movie. Mm-hmm. And how did Lewis from being, uh, um, an accountant to a lawyer? Yeah. I guess he got his law degree that fast.

as fast as New York forgot about the ghostbust as he became a lawyer. Yeah, I'm ragging on this movie. I'll still watch it because, you know, I like the cast, but it was a complete step down from the first one. Yeah, it is a sequel. Lance, what did you think? This one to me was kind of a leap down from the first one. I don't know, man.

It's just like they were just trying to throw too. many things together. Yeah, you nailed it, Philip. It got sequelitis, I guess. It's almost like they didn't really have a good story. And they kind of, I don't know, they kind of merged two stories together, it seemed like, because there was the slime story, and then there

was the painting story. And then you, oh my God, you can definitely tell from the one fucking character in the museum that this was well before the Me Too movement. Am I right, guys? Yeah, he's a little pushy.

A little pushy. He was practically raping, dry-humping her while she was working on that painting. Yeah, I see you later. I thank you. Yeah, no, this one was, oh man, this one was really a, really a disappointing step down

from the first movie. I did not like the story. I did like either of the stories, didn't care too much for the villain character. I mean, I think if I'd played that character and, you know, Max Funn, see it out dubbed over me or whatever, I really wouldn't be too pissed off as long as I got paid. I don't know, man.

It seemed like, yeah, they were, they were hamming it up in this. Why didn't they just getting Max to be in the movie? I don't know, man. That would have probably... We already painted the other guy. We weren't doing... We can't do it anymore. Maybe he was doing something else at the time.

Was he? I don't know. maybe he could do the voiceover but not the movie i fuck who knows i mean the guy wasn't even in it that much you know he was he he had more screen time as a painting than as a person yeah in the movies um and then the deal with sigorty weaver and bill murray and the i just like that was just all patchwork together and uh just i don't know big big disappointment after the

first one. No need to say more about it than that. I will give Lewis credit though. He does get it in with Annie Potts in this one. Well, that's true. I think those two make a

cute couple. I mean he's with Sigourney in the first one and then he gets Annie Potts and the second one. He's doing okay. First one. Making Rick. Nerd rounds.

Rick Moranis is the pimp of the Ghostbusters franchise, huh? Well, I'm going to go a little lighter on it. I actually really enjoy this movie. I definitely see where you're coming from, because it's not as good as the first one, for sure. But it's still one that I can go back and watch, and I've seen this one maybe even more times than I've seen the first one, from, you know, it popping up on TV or whatever, and I'll sit down and watch it.

Yeah, the bad guy, definitely not as cool. Did you watch with the kids this song? Yeah, they bailed on me, like, So they didn't see Dan Aykroy getting head from a ghost? No, that was, yeah, I was a little concerned about that. Or they alluded to him banging the slime? Or was that an Egon? One of them.

well yeah the getting head from the ghost i was like oh that's okay it's good thing the kids are not in here for this one yeah that that that probably wouldn't have gone over their heads huh i don't know it'd be concerning yeah uh but i i i still think it's a fun movie um again definitely not as good and well thought out it was just a sequel to make money but you know make money yeah yeah i got you i guess they were trying to create to create you a Marvel franchise before Marvel, you know, and just stopped it too. All right, let's do scores. Sammy, would you think? Oh, out of 10. I'm going to be pretty tough on this, probably.

probably I mean there was a couple of fun jokes but I 4 and a half okay ah okay we're almost halfway there we're almost halfway there man Lance what do you think

I'll go 5 and a half I liked it more than I didn't like it but just barely so there you go Brian How about you? Weak villain Confusing story

Some of the cast was under you So I had to give it a five All right Pattern forming here Phillip You're going to join the club I'm going to bring up the average Because I'm going to give it a 7

I still think it was a fun movie With a great cast I definitely see I definitely see why it was a disappointment because of who's in it, but it still was fun to watch. So I liked it. All right. So we'll see if Ghostbusters afterlife can hold up. When a single mom and her two kids arrive in a small town, they begin to discover their connection to the original Ghostbusters and the secret legacy their grandfather left behind.

director is Jason Reitman, also known for Juno and Up in the Air. Writers are Gil Kenan, Jason Reitman, and Dan Ackerman. Due to controversy and financial failure of the remake, Ghostbusters in 2016, any further sequels for that movie were abandoned. This prompted Sony to instead make a sequel to the original two films. I don't even know Well, we'll get into that Finn Wolfhard

did not know he was auditioning for Ghostbusters As the audition sides were purposefully kept to be generic and vague As the movie was being developed under secrecy Well, how do you know what are you signing up for then? I was just trying to work Sometimes you don't, the casting call for Halloween Was called mob rules Huh, okay

All right Well, Sammy, what did you think about Ghostbusters's afterlife? Did it live up to the original? I mean, we can't, we're going to have to reference the 2016. And I was severely disappointed in it, not because of fanboy kind of stuff. I just, I'm not a big fan of Melissa McCarthy. I'm not a big fan of Leslie Jones. Kate McKinnon's great in it.

Chris Lund was great. But it lacked something. think. Oh, for sure. A group of us went Saturday and sat and watched after life.

And when it got done, I looked at my buddy Chad and I said, that's the way a Ghostbusters movie is supposed to be made. It has all the heart of the original. It has all of the, it has the comedy.

It has a couple jump scares. It has the feels that maybe the first one didn't have with it's it did everything

that a proper sequel should do and it only took them almost 30 years to do it or almost I guess almost 40 years huh? So it hits all the high notes. It's the the new

characters are are good. It's well acted. The effects are really good. The callbacks are great. The fact that they don't just throw everything at you all at once and just give you a tick here and a tick there and kind of lead you where you need to go

without dumbing it down. We have a lot of issues with movies nowadays, dumbing stuff down they want to over explain everything because the general audience is kind of dumb anymore and can't figure out stuff but there's such a segment of the populace that wants to want to learn and figure out stuff and and this kind of kind of does that it's got cool little nods to the old movies you know it's it's got great cameos.

There was stuff, even knowing some of the cameos and some of the, you know, reading some of the sheets and knowing what was kind of coming, they even surprised me. So I, and to me, the biggest thing was I've turned and looked at 13-year-old Lily and she went, that was amazing. I can't say enough good things about it. All right. Lance. What did you think about it? Oh, man. Well, hey, Nez, what's up, dude?

You sound like you got an airplane right behind you or something. Dude, what's all that noise? Yeah, one just rolled in. So I'm sitting in the ice truck. Why don't you let, why don't you let Nas go next, man? Yeah. he's been dying, dying to talk about this movie. I'm curious.

Before we dive into anything, that's a fucking sweet motel hell poster back there. Oh, thank you. And is that the fast way trick or treat album? Yes, it is. Oh, you

fucking lucky bastard. That's awesome. I'm so jealous. And you've got a comic book rack? Okay, so that's, around that motel hell there is a original docking nightmare on Elm Street 3 soundtrack

the trick-or-treat soundtrack the soundtrack from Close and Council of Third Kind, the soundtrack from pieces, the soundtrack from Jaws and then a sign under the blade from Twisted Sister by D. Snyder. Oh man.

Awesome, awesome collection, but... I'm showing all. We're going video next. week, Niz. We picked the wrong week to go video. We should have been up to speed, right? All right, well, Ghostbusters' afterlife. I know

we were supposed to get this last year and then they were talking about I'm supposed to be out last month, but they moved it to this month. I didn't really dive into what this movie was going to be about. I just knew that

Egon's family was involved. All I knew was Finn Wolfhard was in it and Willie Jack from Reservation Dogs. Those were the only people I knew who were in it. So I was like, all right, whatever. Let's just see what this is. And man, this movie was hell of good. I thought so. I was seriously not expecting much. I did like

the last Ghostbusters. I know a lot of people didn't, but I thought it was cool. Kate McKinnon just was the best in that movie, and so was Thor. Yeah, he made the movie. This one, it was, other than the nostalgic part of it, I thought the story was cool. The effects are awesome. I loved that they used the original score in the background for some of the scenes. There was a lot more sound of the proton packs, which I thought was awesome. I just loved that sound it makes when they turn it on.

I was hoping there was going to be a little more mini-state puffs, but they just, stole the scene that they were in. I thought they were awesome. Finn Wolfhard, I've liked him since Stranger Things, and I know there's a huge time jump in the next season because they're all big

and tall now. The little podcast kid, I thought he was awesome. The mom and Ant Man, they were all right. They didn't do much. But young Sheldon, his girlfriend. I thought she

stole the movie as well, that little McKenna, whatever her name is. But the movie was good. And I didn't realize it was going to be this good. Or with all the nostalgic stuff that they showed.

I knew it was going to be dedicated to Harold Ramis. That was awesome at the very end when it just said Harold or four Harold. I just teared up. But it was good. I thought it was an awesome film. I mean, I know there's some people out there that did already review this movie and they said it was terrible. I don't know what they wanted.

I don't know what a lot of people want in movies. Me, I just want to be entertained at this point. I knew there was going to be a lot of awesome effects and I loved everything that was in it. Some people said that the little kids just didn't pull it off. This was the, they were calling it the mini Ghostbusters. I thought they pulled it off for what it was. just figuring out how to work everything, finding all the stuff that they found,

and then just basically a Scooby-Doo adventure. Just solve the problem and enjoy the film. But overall, the whole film was cool. I loved what was happening. And yeah, but if I got to give my score for the first film, first film's 10. Second film, about a five. It was all right.

I was never a fan of this. Damn, I'm alone in that one. I wasn't a fan of the second one at all. I mean, it was, yeah, it was the Ghostbusters, but it just, I don't know. I mean, I've never actually sat all the way through it. I've seen the whole movie, but never straight through. The first time I saw it was at the drive-in, the second one. And we were partying, and I wasn't even really paying attention to the movie,

because the movie was, to me, was just kind of boring. But anyway, but yeah, Ghostbusters Afterlife, awesome film. All right. So what was your score on Afterlife? Did you guys already give scores? No, but are you going to hang around? Yeah, I'm here. Okay, cool.

All right. Well, Lance, what did you think? Oh, man, I was so fucking worried about this movie. I just knew, especially after we got Ghostbusters 2. and then, you know, what we got with, yeah, all right, so it's been said, we got to talk a little bit about the, what was it, the 2016 version? Was it that recently? Yeah.

Do we need to talk about it? Because it's not even in the same universe. I guess, I don't know, man. Technically it is. No, because the original cast was in it as different characters. But Egon, his, his. good old bust was in the background and it was him.

Was this the multivirus or something? I guess. Blame Marvel for all this. It's an else world story. Oh man. I'm just glad Venom didn't pop up, you know? I was now I was super worried about

this movie. I'm like, oh man, the fucking little kid ghostbusters like fucking Hardy Boys or Scooby-Doo or whatever and this is just going to be terrible. I didn't think any of the original Ghostbusters were going to show up in here.

Oh, fuck. Whoops. We have two parts of the show. We have a spoiler section. Somebody, we knew somebody would show up. And somebody did. Somebody did.

Yeah, yeah, uh-oh. I've been hearing stuff about that forever. Do we all know that already? Yeah, they went on the Tonight Show before the movie came out. Oh, I did. I didn't know. What I saw, I didn't know.

Well, I didn't either. I was blown away. I was blown away by what they did. I thought that everybody, everybody that was in the movie did a good job. But I'm going to say right here and right now, this McKenna Grace girl, oh my God, man. She's got big things ahead of her. She totally stole the show.

Totally stole the show. Finn Wolfheart, he's just kind of like, one of those guys that could show up in anything and be kind of like a little every man. Podcasts, he's kind of like your comic relief type kid. You know, the other girl, she's the pretty girl, you know, that the every man's going to, you know, fall for. There's got to be in every movie, every teen movie. But no, man, this little actress, she was just phenomenal. We had a lot of people in it.

She managed to just wreck that mantle from everybody else. And I don't know, man. I was just incredibly impressed with her performance. I can't say enough good things about it. I mean, you know, smart, nerdy. Let's go STEM. Support STEM for boys and girls, you know. We all need to learn our math and sciences.

And I wish we would give that a little bit more love in this country than we do. but spend a little less time on YouTube and TikTok. But that's for another show. I love some of the little... I know there was a lot of, obviously, a lot of CGI in here, but I thought it was done well. This was one of those where the CGL was actually done. Very well, I thought,

particularly with some tiny characters that just had me rolling on the floor laughing. Like I said, AJ did not want to go to the movie with me, but I don't know, maybe 10, 15 minutes in. She was completely hooked as well. Who doesn't like, you know, Paul Rudd, who doesn't like Carrie Coon? She was great in the leftovers. She's been great in just about everything she's done. So I don't know, man.

It checked all the boxes for me. I really. All right. That's three good reviews so far. Brian, you're going to keep it going? I absolutely am. I love this movie. I took the whole family and this.

I don't usually take the whole family to the movies, but this was one that we all had to see together. We all loved it. Lance, I agree with you. It checked all the boxes. I thought the kids were great in it because, you know, sometimes when it comes to child actors, they can be hit or miss.

But McKenna Grace, I felt like she embodied the character of who she was supposed to be the granddaughter of. I thought all the callbacks were great. They even did a callback to the cartoon. in there that I thought was really cool. Curious as to what that was now. Yeah, we'll talk about the spoilers. I thought I liked them bringing back certain elements of the original one.

Nez, I agree with you, just hearing that proton pack light up is great. That music, the score, just everything was just hitting all the boxes for me. And I'm not going to lie. I don't really get emotional in movies, but near the end, it just hit me in the fields. Oh, yeah, I got me too. And just, Lance, this might be like top ten for me. Oh, yeah. Well, it will be for me.

Yeah. And like I said, this was something that I shared the original one with my daughter. And she's a big Stranger Things fan. So having Ben Wolfharden. there, you know, had her, like, eagerly wanting to see, you know, it's Ghostbusters, plus, you know, you got somebody from Stranger Things in there. Yeah. It's a big sale.

And she loved mechanic race, too, because her awkwardness of trying to be funny, but not funny, but, you know, is making you laugh anyways because it's just so not funny, you know, that whole thing was good. Because it was funny, these people have a sense of it. Carrie Coon and Paul Rudd, I understand what Nez is saying, but I thought they played their part. They did what they needed to do. I wasn't looking forward to them being the main stars of the movie. You know, they had a story to tell and they did it right.

So, yeah, completely love this movie. He should have did Halloween kills instead of this. Yeah. You think so? I agree. Yeah, well. They could have got somebody else, and it would have been just as, fine.

Yeah, just throwing anybody in there pretty much, right? Could have got like... I like Paul Reddeness, and I'm not a super Paul Red fan. Yeah? I'll go a little more

into detail when we get to the spoiler stuff. Okay. He's taking off. He's taking off right now, man. He didn't like what you had to say. He didn't like what Brian had to say, so he's taking a jet plane.

I'm trying to take care of him. No, I actually really enjoyed Paul Rudd in this too. I didn't have a problem with him at all. Ben Wolfhard didn't really seem, him and his girlfriend both. That was an extra little story,

but they didn't really give them a whole lot to do. Although the movie's already two hours, so what are you going to do? But man, I fucking loved this movie. It was like, it was almost Spielberg-esque the way it was directed. It looked like I was, you know, or like a Goonies, you know,

where they had like the action scene going with the kids and stuff, and then they've got the dramatic music going on the background, and it's not just some remix of some dumbass song. It felt very 80s, didn't it? Yeah, it did. It felt like a really cool 80s family action movie. And I took the whole crew with me to go see this one, too, and they all loved it every second of it.

They did a lot of fan service and some nostalgic stuff, and I like that they did that. I don't see why that's a problem. If that's what people want, I mean... Nobody's ever going to be happy with anything. You can't please everybody. I guess, but it's like, why would you even nitpick on that? Because I know that there's...

Some people even nitpick on the Pet Cemetery Remake, for fuck's sake. Oh, garbage. I thought about the music aspect of it, but you're right. I like the first Adam's Family cartoon movie, not to someone so much. Same here. My big issue was this weird rap snoop dog. The sound fight they did. And they did try to do that with this.

And I hadn't thought about that until you said something. Yeah, and that is a good little 80s kind of sounding song. Yeah, because that 2016 version, they did some weird remake of the theme song with, who was it, like, Fallout Boy or something? Oh, yeah, it was. Yeah. That sounds horrible. I don't remember it even. That's how bad it must have been.

At least the Bobby Brown Ghostbuster song was good. Yeah? Bobby Brown was in the movie. That's right. He was. But yeah, just because of that, you know, they made the whole thing very nostalgic, and that was kind of the point of the movie. But it was done really, really well.

And I praise them for it. And they did it right, you know, like it was more of, I know it wasn't really the Ghostbusters movie, like the old Ghostbusters, but it paid tribute to them really well. Respectfully, right? Yes. And I love that. It kind of kept you more. involved and was more of a passing of the torch than just saying, oh, well, here's these new characters.

You care about them because I said so, you know? You know, to compare it kind of to another recent, reimagining, re-sequel, whatever kind of thing, you know, the Force Awakens was a very much fan service movie. They basically took Star Wars and remade it. They could have done that with this, but they did. didn't. And it made it it's

kind of a good a good thought. They they've passed it on to the next generation in the proper way without licking all the rest of our booties along the way. Yeah.

God damn. I like the stuff. You don't have to beat me over the head with it. I hear you. Well, and see, yeah. And I don't And I don't think they necessarily did that here. I think they did a really good job. They totally did.

All right. So let's go with scores and then we can hit spoilers. Sammy, what do you think? I'm sorry, say that again. Are we doing sports? On score. Uh, uh, uh, um, so I gave the original 8.5. I gave the sequel 4.5.

Um, I, I probably could do with a couple rewatches. but right now, I would give it in a line. Wow. Yeah, I'm going to break higher than the first one. And you said the first was the top 20? Yes. Well, that's saying a lot, man.

That's saying a lot. I really, really enjoyed this movie. It's, it's, there have been very, very, you know, everything is a remake now or reimagined or redone or redone. Sure. Very little things, especially. especially the horror world have come out original. You know, you have some different, you know, maybe quiet place.

You know, there are some original concepts out there, but very few. It's very seldom that they hit on a reimagining this well. Yeah. And I don't, I can't, I mean, it's technically not a horror movie, so, but it's, it's just so. well done. It covers all the generations. You know, me and Chad, who are Chad's a couple years older than I am,

I'm 51 to my kids who are in their early 30s now. I can't wait to take them for them to see it because I think they're really going to enjoy it down to Lily, who's 13, and she enjoyed it. It covers everybody. All right. Lance. Oh, who went next? Nez went next.

Oh, this was a 10 all the way. Got the stand. Ten. Ten. Ten. It is. Ten. Nez went 10, 5, 10. And knows what he wants.

Lance, what do you think? Oh, man. It's an eight and a half. And it's a definite top ten. It's going to be hard to round out the top ten this year. Bottom 10, I don't know. And so far, Brian, I'm telling you right now that that escape room is still hanging in there by a thread, but... It won't be there.

Now, this one... Okay, you must know something I don't, man. Or you better... You better advise a couple for me to watch. That Jeffrey Dean Morgan abortion was pretty bad. Watch Red White. Yeah. What's that?

What's that? Great White. Great White. Oh, yeah. Great White's the bottom... Okay. All right. All right.

All right. Yep. you got me. Yeah, no, eight and a half. Eight and a half. I love the nostalgia. Now, this, to me, this was less straight-up comedy. This had, just, I don't know if it's just because I was in the movie theater.

Well, fuck, I saw the first in the theater and just laughed my ass off the whole time and didn't really get scared. But this, to me, this had some darker moments in it and some scarier moments. And I don't know if that was the special effects or the way that they made certain characters look or something. you know, whatever the case was, I got a little bit more of a horror vibe from this, which I really dig. So, yep, top 10, top 10 movie of the year, eight and a half.

All right. Brian, what do you think? Say it again. I don't give too many of them out, but this was another 10 for me. It just, it hit every, it was a good nine, nine and a half up until that end, and it just pushed it over the line for me.

and yeah great movie i i can't wait to see it again you know what you talked me into it i think i'm gonna give it a 10 too wow man okay and yeah you're right it probably is a really good nine and a half until uh you hit that ending and i loved it i loved what they did there i'm not crying you're crying just just when i thought they couldn't do anything else right yeah

I spend a lot of time making movies and don't get to spend a lot of time watching movies. I've watched more this year than I normally do. This is by far my favorite movie of the year. Nice. Yeah, it's going on top of the list for sure. All right, let's go to spoiler territory. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Who wants to start? Do you start at the end? After credit scene or what? Just, well, no, I meant just the movie.

What's that, Sammy? I meant the end of the movie movie, not the, not the after credits. I mean, the, the way they handled Egon, I kept watching that going. You know, it was a little bit. I mean, you figure out pretty early that he has some sort of influence going on. Right. And again, it kind of builds to the point where you don't see him to the very end. And how they did that, and I kept going, if they make him talk, it's going to ruin it.

If they have him talk, it's going to ruin it. And they didn't. They stuck to their guns, and they didn't do it. And it's just the nods and the smile. and the hugs from his daughter. It's like everything came together and you got it. Everybody left that happy. Everybody left, even though it was a ghost and he was leaving.

Everybody left that joining of forces and people happy. Yeah. Was that CGI or was it an actor? I don't know. That CGI. Yeah, it didn't. I imagine it's a whole lot easier to throw that in there than to do something like they did with Princess Leia, you know? Yeah, whatever it was, it was a damn good representation of Harold Ramos.

And Sammy, I agree with you. If him not saying anything was perfect. Yes, agreed. Just the looks back before. I was always worried there for a minute they was going to start talking. Dan Aykroyd saying, I'm sorry, my friend. And, you know, Ernie Hudson, you know, I'm. I miss you and just just

that moment was enough. And then of course the hug with his daughter, Carrie Coon was, you know, just like I said, it just hit all the marks. Yeah. Was that Olivia Wilde? It's Gozer? I think

I read that somewhere that that's who was playing Gozer. Oh, real? Yeah. There was nobody in the credits. Mm-hmm. Well, I like they did with Gozer. I like that the original villain came back, you know, and they had to save the sound again. And there was still, it looked like another date on the inside of that thing, huh?

Yeah, I'm looking at it up right now, Olivia Wilde, uncredited as Gozer. Wow. Another secret. Man, they kept, yeah, they did great. I mean, how they all to, they pull something off here, didn't they, to get all these people together? And I like they, they brought back the Gozer character, but they explained why it was happening there and then got a little got a little vicious there with the with the guy when he rose from his grave and he thought he was going to rule with her and she just ripped on it. We'll rule together. I created all this for you. Yeah. That was quick. That was awesome. Yeah, well done movie, man. And, you know, talking about Paul Rudd and Claire Coon's characters of this, this is where I really like Paul Rudd.

His character as the science teacher was kind of fun, but when he ended up with the same haircut like Lewis did, you know, that lasted hair look and half his clothes gone and then her doing the painting and the chair, you know, we're both. callbacks to that original movie without being, hey, this is fan service, this is just for you guys. It was just subtle enough to where you got it, and it looked really good. So I liked his character a little bit more than hers. I don't know that hers, other than the, you know, dad never liked me, why did he run off kind of storyline?

It was about the kids. But it paid off. It paid off, though. It paid off. Yeah, yeah. Yep, yeah. And I also like the fact, you kept waiting for, once you saw Dan Aykroyd's character, you kept waiting for Bill Murray to show up.

You can't wait for Bill Murray to show up. You can't wait for Bill Murray to show up. See, I didn't know any of the others. I knew Ackroyd was going to be in it. I heard that somewhere. I had no idea the rest of the Ghostbusters who were going to show up. And I thought Ernie Hudson was going up being the grandfather of the girl, Finn Wolfhard

was trying to hook up with. You know, I thought he was going to be the sheriff's dad or something. But then he just came back as a Ghostbuster, which I was like, okay, I like that better than I do. Yeah, that would have been too contrived, I think. They chose, they chose, well.

Who wrote this one again? Who wrote the screenplay? Was it mainly? Ackroyd and Ritman and some other guy. Yeah. some other guy. I think some other guy got the major credit.

Okay. Craig Lloyd added to it. I got it. Also, this also to me was a little bit of a callback to close encounters of third kind,

which is one of my favorite movies. A lot of those vibes, man. Devil Tower kind of thing. Yep. They, you know, you're going,

how the hell do they take Ghostbusters? Ghostbusters is about New York City, as much as it. is anything. How are they going to take that and transported in the middle of nowhere? But they told that story really well

without over-explaining it. Yeah. And to go back to Harold Ramos, Bob Gunton was his body double. Ah, okay. He played the warden in Shawshank. Oh, yeah. The one that

one that liked to get his shoes shined, right? Yeah. So he was the, so they did a little bit the CGI and he was the body double for it. Oh, well done. Well done. And it was a little, kind of a little scene, but I love the reaction between the kid podcast and Dan

Akroyd's character, how they bonded. Dan Aykroyd was his one podcast subscriber. Oh, yeah, you're my subscriber. The kid's is funny, man. I like it. You really found your voice in episode 46. Yeah. That's like us with Lars from Denmark.

You're our subscriber. And the running dad jute stuff was hilarious. I thought so good. I am laughing out loud in the theater at her terrible jokes. I know. It was like nobody on the screen was laughing, and I was like, man, tough crowd. Like, I'm going to use some of these when I get home. Those are needs a sense of humor.

What would you guys think about the after-credit scenes? Are they leaving it open for a sequel? I've got a theory, but go ahead, Brian. I think that that after-credit scene with Annie Potts and Ernie Hudson, I think they did it well enough to where if they didn't make a sequel, it was fine, but I think they're kind of... Okay. Leaving it open, and I'm reading here, the opening weekend box office far exceeded what they thought it was going to.

Good. Really? They were hoping for a $40 to $45 million, and it opened with a $60 million box office weekend. Well, that's... That ain't bad for... For now. Yeah. Not a bad opening, right, Sammy?

good opening. How much does it cost to make it? Oh, that's a question. Hold that up right here. 75 million. See? Budgets have shrunk a lot, unless you're a Disney property.

You know, I've watched through Zach's eyes. I've watched the progress of movie theaters and what they've struggled with. And I also do like I need something else to do.

I also do improv. And what the comedy clubs and theater venues and movie theater venues have gone through because of the pandemic. And Zach text me from Vegas. He was out there in August for CinemaCon, which was their big convention. And he said, I just. just saw Ghostbusters Afterlife. I'm not going to ruin anything, but holy shit. So then Friday night, he text me and he, or no, I'm sorry, Saturday we had an improv show.

And when we got there, we were talking about the movie and he said, well, Friday night was the first time I felt good about a theater again. He said, I heard laughter and cheering for the first time of a long time. And for an industry that's really, really struggled, I'm glad to see them backing away from so much streaming stuff. And this was only shown in theaters for the first, I don't know, two weeks, I think, or something. So they're giving them less time, but at least they're giving them some time. Yeah. And I also want to say, I think it was a smart idea to have Ivan Reitman's son, Jason, directed, because he grew up around this. know there's a lot of stories from Bill Murray and Dan Aykroyd of him being on set when they was filming the first two.

So I think that was a great idea to have him come in. Yeah, absolutely. I felt like a kid sitting in the theater, man, just looking up at it and smiling. It was so much fun. Well, when they did the Ghostbusters re-release that somebody mentioned earlier, that had a little segment at the front of it with, Ivan and Jason Reitman being interviewed talking about the two Ghostbusters

the afterlife and this one because Ivan was around for a good majority of the film and Zach showed it at the beginning of this at his theater on purpose because it gives you that kind of you know it's it's almost Jason's love letter to his dad

makes sense yeah Makes sense. Yeah, his dad's no longer with us either. So I think the Harold, the, the, the, the,

the, the, the, the, the, the, the, the,

the, kind of his love letter to his dad, too. Gotcha. Yeah, see, he did it really well. Well, that's another thing I was really, really worried about going into this movie, right?

Because I was super worried about the old, uh, Ghostbusters kids thing that I was very, very, very concerned whether Jason Reitman was the right pick for this film because I absolutely love everything he's ever done, but it's real quirky and real indie and real low-key. And like, how is he going to tackle something like this? Well, gentlemen, we have our answer. Yeah, I mean, Ghostbusters is in the family.

I mean, going back to the second movie, the daughter is the little girl in the scene where Harold Ramos is like, let's see what happens when we take. the puppy away. That's Ibrahim's daughter. Had no idea. Oh, Brian, you said there was a call back to the animated

series somewhere? Yeah, the ghost that came out of I think one of the shops that had the big eyeball. Okay. That's one of the ghosts from the animated series. Oh, man, I had kind of forgotten about that. I used to watch that all time.

Yeah, the real Ghostbusters, not the other cartoon. Yeah. I did have one disappointment with the movie. One thing that struck me that I was like, huh, why didn't they do that? We had some ghost callbacks with the guy in the cafe, the one with the little scruffy beard. We got no slumber. Yeah.

Yeah, we got a metal muncher. Yeah, my wife. Which played. which played, you know, played for the movie. They needed that to get the kids, to get the weapons, the proton packs back out. But no slimer at all. You would figure they would have thrown a little something in there

because so would catch a series. Yeah, and I'll add one more on there. I really thought at the end scene when Ernie Hudson opened up the garage door and the Ecto 1 pulled in, I really thought it was going to be Rick Moranus driving it. Yeah. Because he said he, because Winston's character made a whole bunch of money, he said off of, off of his business having one employee that wasn't starting.

I thought that one employee was going to be Rick Moranis. Oh, got you. I mean, they still can, they still can do it if they do another one. But I really wanted him to just pull up in that Ecta one. And that would have just been the cherry. He refused to do anything, though, hasn't it? No, didn't he pass away? No, he's, I think I read he's coming back for something for Disney Plus.

The honey, I blew up the kids or whatever. Yeah, he said. That's that Disney dollar. Well, he said he would only come back if the script was something that he wanted to do. So. He should have definitely been. At least in that after credit scene, that would have been perfect. Good shot is 69.

I'll tell you, my theory, boys. I think that after this one, I think we're going to get a TV series. I think that's what that whole last final after credit scene was setting it up for. They're going to reopen the original New York headquarters, and they're going to bring a new team of Ghostbusters in. And I don't think it's going to be these kids. I think it's going to be somebody else. But we'll see.

Child labor line. I don't want that. You don't? You don't want a series? I would like to see a continuation with this movie. I don't want them to bring a whole new... But, dude, everybody... To me, that just sounds like the 2016 version.

Yeah. Are you afraid... You're afraid it'll turn into a Ghost of the Week movie? Yeah, because they'll get somebody like Chris Pratt or somebody that... They're trying to say is the It guy right now, and I... No. Jeremy Renner maybe I don't think he I don't think he

well that's a different show but I think Jeremy Renner's trying to get out of doing these big budget things okay well who would you pick Naz to be the next ghost buster I don't know but slimer is in that containment unit

the show at the end there you go It'll be Paul Rudd as one of the Ghostbusters. Well, isn't he like the sexiest man alive or whatever? Yeah, Paul Rudd. Yeah. He's having a hell of a year. The part I loved about him in this is how fucking cool he was as a teacher.

Yeah. Letting his students watch Koojo and Chuckie. Right. Why not? I thought that was awesome. The Broken Lizards guys, they can be the guys. They can be the ghost bus. There you go.

From Super Troopers. I don't know. I don't even know who's big and who isn't right now. I mean, I'd rather have these kids come back. Yeah? Yeah. I mean, his granddaughter is smart enough and she's going to understand, obviously, learn how to work everything. Right.

Because she has all that stuff. They have all those traps. and all the guns they had in that little cave that her grandpa built. So, I mean, she's going to obviously learn how to work everything. And who knows? She'll probably create some more stuff. Podcast. I mean, it would be awesome to see him again.

Finn Wolfhardt, it was good that he was there because he was the only one that was able to drive. And I thought that whole scene when they were hauling ass downtown and just shooting. up, uh, shooting up the town trying to chase that metal muncher ghosts. I thought that was cool. That was my favorite scene. What happened to the sheriff? When everything started going down

like he was just gone. Bokeem Woodbine? Yeah. He got scared. He said, Ghost, fuck this shit. That's a motherfucking ghost.

They didn't arrest people. Right. Yeah, that's true. It was kind of a small town, right? He probably didn't see a lot of action, right? Nope. Except from the dirt farmer. Right.

That's fucking gay. All right. You guys better ready to wrap it up? Where was this supposed to be at? Oklahoma. That didn't look like Oklahoma. Probably wasn't. All right.

Well, definitely recommend it. Ghostbusters after afterlife. Yeah. Holy shit was that surprise. Yeah. So we go. How many tens did we get three tens on this one? Yeah. Holy fuck.

Shit, Sammy. Before we get out of here, before we get out of here, um, ladies and gentlemen, boy and girls, welcome to a quick little episode of the wrestling returned. Uh, Brian, how did you do on your?

your picks. So, Survivor Series. Last night, I did pretty bad. I only got two. The main event and the one with the Uso's

and the RK.Brow. Those are the only ones I picked. Sammy, Sammy can jump in this section too, by the way, Niz. St. Raw always wins. That's, oh, bullshit.

But, I'm kind of, I'm curious the biggest thing I'm curious about is what are they going to do with Omas? Are they going to push him now and split them up? I mean, we're headed towards, we had to have a challenger for Biggie, and Seth Rollins made all the sense in the world. You know, we're headed back to Lesnar reigns again.

But, you know, what are they? I mean, they put Omas over big time last. might. Yeah, they did. So. That guy, new move or something. I almost picked him. I was looking at his name, but I just, I love Otis, but he lost.

You got throwing out like hella fast. I don't know. I mean, those three guys between him and King Aziz and, uh, or not, is not king, whatever, General Aziz and, uh, Shanky, that's three big boys. boys. So it's, I don't know. I don't know. I don't think,

I think he's still too green to be out on his own, but they need to refresh AJ's character. I think Owens is gone when his contracts got up. So, yeah, what was that? I mean, I think that's a dig towards him,

because they know, he's gone and they're like he's going to walk out on us so let's make him walk out on his team to show that in a few months he's going to walk out on us is he coming back is kevin steen for a w uh well i mean probably um you know he's friends with all those guys but uh i mean tony's i asked chuck the other day uh what i was i was like why are they you know what's going to on he says why i'm not privy to know that shit he said but they if you look they've released a bunch of people that aren't on tv and he says and and tony con's got way too many people on on the payroll over it eventually the bubble's going to have to burst so uh you know and their and their ratings

are okay they're not super great so they they're only going i mean he's got unlimited money but how much is unlimited. How long before daddy goes, oh, whoa, we're losing money over here. We can't do this. True, true. So, I mean, it was a good pay-per-view, but very predictable. That Charlotte-Backy fight was tremendous.

That did my girls dirty, boss, and Shotsy. They did them dirty. Yeah. And I don't know. That whole, you know, they've kind of put themselves into a corner there with the women. You know, now they're going to give Bianca another shot after they squished her the first time. Yeah, they did. Yeah, they could have.

And this, and Becky turning heel is so reminiscent of them trying to turn in stone cold and just flogging. and just flopping on it? Why? Why? It's definitely not going to work now with the whole Charlotte thing of her going off Sprip. Well, and she's just such a natural heel

anyway. You know, I don't know why. I don't know. It doesn't make a lot of sense. But they're getting younger. That's got to. a lot to do with the releases too. They're getting young.

And they're going to start pushing some guys that you're going to go, why the hell are they pushing those people? The Steiner kid's good, though. Gosh, he sounds like his uncle. Yeah. When Chapa did that bit last week where he was

talking about Steiner math, I thought I was going to die. You should come on this regular show with us for a The Parker Bodeut, whatever that kid's name is, the Lesnar-looking kid, is going to be big. I hear there's a big push to sign Gargano, which would be good. I think I need a morale boost down there. That's it, everyone.

Is that the wrestling returns? Yeah. For tonight's episode, okay. Yeah, you'll get an official episode later. All right, dude. Sammy, something tells me you're going to be invited on that show really, really, really soon. We've talked about doing a wrestling podcast, and I just haven't got around to it. We've got one.

We've got one, man. So you're set. Nice. All right. Well, dude, thanks for joining us, man. If all the movies that you join us for are this good, it's going to be a hard year to judge, isn't it? Well, I thank you for having me. I mean, it's very much appreciated.

I love going on other people's podcasts. As you can tell, I love to talk. Yeah, man. Thanks for coming. Yeah, we did good, man. And as always, everybody out there, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas.

You can reach us at the Horror Returns at gmail. But for your one-stop shop, Brian, where do they go? What's our website? Thehorrorterms.com. It'll take you to all our social media accounts as well as wherever you stream your podcast. Yeah, that's pretty much it. We don't have to say all that other shit anymore. It's nice to have one website.

Click the shop link, get your t-shirts, hoodies, mugs, whatever you want. Are you guys having a black friend? or Black Wednesday or whatever Black Friday sale? I don't even know. I don't even know where the money's going. Supposedly, we've been sent $4.50 for

our hair or whatever. Hopefully it's in our account. I guess I'll have to look for that. But hey, man, we don't do it for the money. We do it for the love. Am I right? How about you, man? We're all about the money.

All about the Benjamin's. Yep. All right. Well, next week, next week we got another fan favorite on the show. We're going to be joined by a very special guest, Tvaris Ellis, of Student of the Game Podcast.

And, oh, shit, Naz. Ness, if you don't make this one, dude, I'll never talk to you again, because we're going to do the year in 1987, Part 2, featuring House 2, the second story, and Goolies 2. Is that the one with a little thing

reaching up with the knife and the toilet, or was that Goolies 1? That was in the first one. Yeah. The second one, the second one, they were at a carnival. Carnival, yeah. Yeah, and House 2 was garbage.

All right, Nez. Well, since it is 80s week next week, tell us, man, until the horror returns again. Really quick, everyone. Listen to the action returns. It's my fault again. So, yeah, we'll be back. stream fiends in the next day or so.

So listen to those. So until then, everyone, next time party on. Be safe and good night.