The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #288: The Year In Horror 1987, Part 2: House II: The Second Story & Ghoulies II

Episode Date: November 30, 2021

Well, due to technical difficulties, we missed out on recording with our friend Tavares Ellis of Student of the Game podcast. But we have Tavares scheduled again for a January show. And Nez steps in f...or an update from The Bay Strikes Back tour! This week, we go back to 1987 to check out House 2: The Second Story, and Ghoulies 2. Cool of the Week includes What We Do in the Shadows, Bruised, and Hawkeye. The podcast spotlight shines on The Binge Aftertaste, and we get feedback from Rob Forrest, Anthony Ybarra, Brian J. Godsil, Marcey Papandrea, Mike Batchelor, and The Evolution of Horror podcast. Thanks for listening!

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Starting point is 00:00:00 Hi, I'm Tom Savini. You might know me as Sex Machine from Dusk Till Dawn, and you're listening, and I don't know why, to the horror returns. Meetings, victims, for those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify, go, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror.
Starting point is 00:00:57 Okay. Try this again. We can talk about it that. That'll be funny. Yeah. Welcome back one and all to the horror returns. I'm Phillip and with me as always are my co-host Kevin, Brian, and Lance, once again on location and the sticks, which is why I'm hosting.
Starting point is 00:01:18 Kevin, I don't know if he can hear this right now. You're at a Testament show, right? Yeah, I'm down in the greatest city in the world. Fuck what everyone else says. We're the best. We're the best. We're about to get to the Bay Area Strikes Back. We got one from Oakland and two from San Francisco, Testament, Exodus, and Death Angel.
Starting point is 00:01:42 And we're ready to tear this shit up. This is a grandpa night at the Fox Theater with a bunch of little juniors running around. This is all the shit that I used to listen to when I was a kid. Got it's supposed to this real music. Yeah, now I'm an old grandpa. So, but they're about to do the vaccination card checker. Oh, you're not even, not in the show yet. No, we're not even inside.
Starting point is 00:02:11 We're still standing outside and they're checking everybody's their cards. Oh, man, I imagine that just makes it take even longer. I hadn't even thought about that. Yeah, I think about another 40 minutes in the show will start one, but we're still outside. They're going to start making you take off. your shoes and belt and shit. Yeah. Well, I got clean
Starting point is 00:02:32 underwear on it, so we'll be all right. But other than that, man, we're just slowly moving along, but I'm only here for a little bit, so because I don't know, what are you guys
Starting point is 00:02:48 watching? We're watching Goolies 2 and house 2. All right. Well, gooies too. I'll give you my rating right now.
Starting point is 00:03:01 Ten. House to you. Are you fucking crazy? But, yeah, I'm up next. So I'll talk to you guys later. So we're on. I'm out. We out here.
Starting point is 00:03:13 What kind of insanity is that? That music's too out. Damn. What the hell was that all about? That man has endless tens to give out. Yeah. What did he give house too? He just said trash.
Starting point is 00:03:28 Right. Yeah. Trash and hella good. I'm going to assume zero. And we're supposed to have Tavaris Ellis of the student of the game podcast, but whether it's my inability to work Skype or whatever, we're having technical difficulties. And so he's going to miss it today, unfortunately, because we're going to reschedule. Maybe we ought to just, hey, we should probably let him pick the movies, right? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:54 I'm going to blame Skype. This wasn't the first time we've done. and we've dealt with this kind of thing. Yeah, that's true. All right, Brian, you haven't scheduled out January yet, have you? Uh, I might have. Let me look at it. Okay, cool.
Starting point is 00:04:13 All right. Well, we know what Kev's cool of the week is, definitely. Well, let's go Lance. What are you got for cool of the week? Oh, man, you put me on the spot, dude. But I think I'd come up with it pretty quick. I'm getting through the most recent. season of what we do in the shadows.
Starting point is 00:04:32 Oh, nice. Yeah. Still, still good. Still good. There was one episode, a couple back that I thought maybe they were going to jump the shark. But they didn't. So that's, that's all good. I'm glad they didn't do that.
Starting point is 00:04:48 But I mean, fuck, man. I was really worried about this show from the get-go because the movie was so damn good. And with them changing all the actors, I thought they were going to be terrible. but everybody's perfect in the role. They haven't had any major changes in the primary characters, and that's nice. You're starting to get some backstory of some of the people like the dude that's the energy vampire. I love that guy.
Starting point is 00:05:16 Definitely the best character. Yeah, and Guillermo's kind of front and center. Now that we know he's, well, I don't want to give too much away. I guess I can because the last season where they revealed it was over a year ago, but he's actually a distant relative of Van Helsing. So he's kind of like their in-house vampire killer. He kind of helps kill off the competition and stuff like that. So our heroes are currently ruling the vampire council.
Starting point is 00:05:43 So that's what this season's all about. Very cool. I'll go next because I know Brian's got some good stuff and we actually pay attention to his. I didn't really watch a whole lot. I started on the new season of Tiger King, and I got to say without Joe Exotic, it's not near as fun. That's what I'm hearing. Like those other crazy guys are just crazy without the glitter, you know?
Starting point is 00:06:18 How does he maintain his hair in prison? I don't know. It looks ridiculous, though. I mean, I guess it always does, but... they have prison barbers yeah but that that's a special kind of hair cut one of our prison barbers was convicted of killing his wife with a pair of scissors
Starting point is 00:06:40 at least that was what I heard holy shit yeah so I don't know why they had him in there my barber that I go to actually did time so does that qualify well since we're talking about our barbers well before I started growing my hair out my barber was an ex-pimp.
Starting point is 00:06:59 Oh, even better. Even better. Great stories. He knows how to cut hair. Great stories. He knows how to cut hair, and his girls know how to cut you. Yeah. He knows how to cut a lot of things.
Starting point is 00:07:14 So there was that. I started it. I'm not all with it yet, because it's a little slower and not as nuts. And I watched the new Hallie Berry movie, bruised. Oh, I was a. I was going to get to that. I just hadn't got to it yet. Yeah, it's not bad.
Starting point is 00:07:32 I mean, it's not great. It's one of the better Hallie Berry performances in a while. Because usually if she's carrying a movie, it's, yeah. I believe she directed it, too. Oh, did she? Yeah. Damn. Huh.
Starting point is 00:07:43 She must be really into fighting right now or something. Because, yeah, she's like a cage fighter who loses real bad, gets out of the UFC and is down on her luck. And is getting back. into it. However old she's supposed to be in the movie, she's definitely older. And she's got a kid
Starting point is 00:08:04 who shows up out of nowhere. Like, she didn't know she had him. But, and so now she's got to take care of this kid and bond with him and still fight. And it was a pretty solid movie. The fighting was actually pretty good, most of it. Nice. Yeah, I'll give her props on that.
Starting point is 00:08:23 It was better than that one where she was chasing the guy in the van or whatever the fuck that movie was. Oh, that was bad. Yeah. What was that movie called? Like, uh, human cargo or something like that? I don't know. Fuck it. Was it, was it the one where her son got snatched? Yeah, that's the one. Okay. Yeah. I can't think of the name though.
Starting point is 00:08:44 Yeah. Well, and usually that's the kind of movies that she has been in. You know, the son gets snatched or she's a 911 operator or something like that. You know, she's got And then this time it's more of a introspective story. So that was kind of cool. Yeah. I thought she would have went the route of action movies after the John Wick. Oh, yeah, that's true. I forgot about her and John Wick.
Starting point is 00:09:12 She was great in that. Well, maybe that's what got her into fighting. Maybe that's why she did this movie. Yeah. Because she obviously knows what she's doing on a couple of things. That's kind of an action movie, right? UFC. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:09:24 I would throw that in there. So, well, you got the kid stuff. So I would say it's more like an action drama, sports drama. Yeah. Yeah. But more on the drama and a little less on the sports. But there were some good fight scenes. That's cool.
Starting point is 00:09:41 All right. And that's really all I got this week, aside from our awesome movies that we watched. Brian? What you got? I got one movie and three shows. talk about the movie we reviewed the trailer and it is Black Friday starring Bruce Campbell I forgot about that kind of after watching a movie there was like a lot of people that I was kind of like you look familiar and then I started going on IMDV and the main actress in it
Starting point is 00:10:17 was the little girl from Pan's Labyrinth that Guillermo del Toro movie oh oh yeah. It had a bunch of those kind of actors. You know you've seen them somewhere, but you don't know their names. But as far as the movie, it was fine. I can't
Starting point is 00:10:39 really say nothing good or nothing bad about it. It's absolutely nothing we haven't seen before. It wasn't zombies. It was aliens, which was kind of confusing from watching the trailer. I thought it had nothing to do with aliens but
Starting point is 00:10:56 Bruce Campbell was Bruce Campbell in it Devonsawa did his thing I really like this this little Renaissance we're going through right now you know him and he's been in this Chuckie
Starting point is 00:11:12 like it or hated the fanatic it was a talked about movie still is talked about will be forever yeah so I don't know if it's one of those movies like every year, you know, for for Black Friday
Starting point is 00:11:28 I'll throw on or for Thanksgiving or whatever, so worth the watch. If you have nothing else to watch. Oh, man. Oh, we really hope that would be good. Yeah, I mean, the practicals were pretty good in it.
Starting point is 00:11:47 It's just like I said, I felt like I've seen this story before. It just takes place in a toy store. Kind of an alien invasion. and okay let's see still watching gangs of London still loving that which
Starting point is 00:12:02 somebody let me know because they had heard the show and heard that I had mentioned how they went through like a raid style fight scene in the bar and then he let me know that the guy that made the raid movies is the guy that is the creator of the show so it makes a lot of sense
Starting point is 00:12:20 yeah well I got to break down and buy AMC Plus then huh Yeah, because I think it's exclusive, but I'm sure you can, if you wanted to. Possibly other means. Yeah. Let's see. Checked out the first episode of this new Netflix show Hellbound. It's from the guy that directed Last Train to Busan.
Starting point is 00:12:44 Oh, yeah. We were about to start that one. Yeah, it's an interesting concept. Basically, like, people get these visions of somebody telling them. when and what time they're going to die and then these like demons show up and fucking brutally murder you. They just don't kill you
Starting point is 00:13:02 they have to fucking beat the shit out of you and kill you. And then it started as a thing that nobody really believed in and then it started happening more often in major cities and then like there's this religious cult that's forming because of it and it's pretty good so far.
Starting point is 00:13:21 Pretty good so far. Sounds really good. Sounds really good. man is it American or is it subtitle? It's dubbed. Okay. The dubbing is not too bad. It doesn't bother me. Can you guys hear all these chickens and ducks and shit in the background? No, but now that you said it, I'll be...
Starting point is 00:13:40 You're going to hear it now. Yeah, probably. Let's see. Going over to Amazon Prime started the Wheel of Time, kind of like their, I guess, pre-eastern. Lord of the Rings show. Right. You know, they start
Starting point is 00:13:58 Lord of the Rings next year. Ah, okay. I don't know if I'm going to stick with this. I just, the first episode didn't catch me. I got to give it the rule, though. I got to give it at least two or three episodes, but there was parts of it I liked, and then
Starting point is 00:14:14 I'm not going to spoil it. There was somebody, their power settings were kind of hokey to me. They seemed a little bit overpowered. Gotcha. What? And it just, it's somebody, I don't want to spoil it, but it just, there was a big battle scene at the end of the first episode that I thought was pretty cool. And then somebody showed up and just started.
Starting point is 00:14:37 Wrecking house? Yeah, just the way the power setting was, I was just, I don't know, I thought it was a bit of much. Yeah, I was just, I was not feeling it. I was, but, but I'm going to give it a couple more episodes. I don't know if I'm going to stick with it. I know it's a popular book series. Yeah, I've been tempted to read the books by Robert Jordan. He's a premier fantasy writer.
Starting point is 00:15:06 Somebody told me there's like 14 books. Yeah, good luck on that one. But I'll give it a couple more episodes. Like I said, there was a good battle scene at the end, and it got kind of brutal and a little bit bloody. and just one character just kind of bothered me. It's the main character, too. So kind of like, do I have to see this character every episode?
Starting point is 00:15:35 I might check it out. I'm going to watch The Witcher series because I'm reading those books. The Witcher's awesome. If I had to compare the two. Yeah, better. All right, gotcha. Yeah, the Witcher's great. And my cool of the week, we have to be Hawkeye.
Starting point is 00:15:51 First two episodes dropped. They're starting to dive into some things. I was wondering if they were going to ever get to when it came to Hawkeye, because I kind of felt like he wasn't as a prominent character as he should have been. He was just kind of a side character. So they're kind of touching on new things with him. Of course, bringing in Cape Bishop, who will eventually be the new Hawkeye.
Starting point is 00:16:18 And a lot of stuff from the comic books that they threw. in the show that always makes me happy, you know, making more a little bit more comic accurate. And it's been the first two episodes were pretty good. Cool. I have to check that one out, too. That was another one we were going to start today. And then my Disney Plus started acting up.
Starting point is 00:16:39 Yeah, very definitely right in time for the Christmas seasons, very Christmassy episodes. Yep, that's what I've heard. So the Halle Berry movie is your cool of the week, Phil? uh yeah that's the best i can do is it is it streaming anywhere or just uh yeah Netflix yeah it's a Netflix yeah it's a Netflix original all right I'm adding it right now
Starting point is 00:17:04 all right we got any horror headlines yeah we got a little bit I had to pull some together it wasn't wasn't a whole lot because of the holidays but uh I guess we'll start with TV uh the upcoming alien series it's coming to FX, Ridley Scott said the first season will be between 10 to 13 episodes.
Starting point is 00:17:29 Hmm. Which is kind of funny to me. He's dropping news about it when about a month ago, he said the show will never be as good as anything he's ever done. Uh-oh. What's his involvement in the show?
Starting point is 00:17:43 He's probably producer. Yeah. They gave me a huge check. Yeah, because I know Noah Hawley is uh he's he's taking full rain on it so which i think a fresh take on it is probably best for the show that's the that's the guy that does fargo right yeah fargo he did uh what was the other fx show legion okay yeah i'm sure it's gonna be good then yeah let's see here i don't know the ridley scott thing worries me because uh last i heard he was talking shit about fans to make excuses for a that last movie he did fail oh last duel he's blaming the millennials yeah i'm not a millennial
Starting point is 00:18:27 and i didn't want to watch it so i don't know it's on my list eventually but yeah it's not very appealing i i think what kind of did it for me with the trailer was uh the haircuts for uh ben afflac and uh matt damon i kind of liked it i kind of enjoyed it I mean, I don't think about it. I watch it. It wasn't a bad movie. Oh, you did watch it. No, I said I will watch it.
Starting point is 00:18:57 Yes. Yeah, it's worth to the theater. I did go to the theater. I did go to the theater opening weekend. It was pretty weird hearing those guys with the accents and then Kyla ran in there. Oh, they had accents too. They tried. They tried kind of like Dracula with Keanu Reeves.
Starting point is 00:19:17 Oh, my gosh. I might have to. go watch it now. Just for that, man. Check it out. Okay, let's see. Roxanne Benjamin is going to direct a new movie for
Starting point is 00:19:34 epics, which epics is starting to have a lot of their own series and movies, especially in the horror genre. And she's working with Blumhouse on this one. And if people don't know who Roxanne Benjamin is, she's worked on movies like Body
Starting point is 00:19:50 Brighton Rock, Southbound, the BHS series, Creep Show, that Sabrina series that was on Netflix, so she's done a lot of horror stuff. Okay. Talked about Devin Sawa earlier.
Starting point is 00:20:08 He is teaming up with the makers of the Texas Chainslaw Massacre for a new movie. Kind of keeping the called the Texas Chainsaw Massacre. I had a better idea, Philip.
Starting point is 00:20:24 Again. Philip, the Texas Chainsaw moose occur. They have to do a sequel. They have to do a sequel. They will. They, like just ripping people's faces off and screaming at them. That'd be great. He didn't really give a title away of the movie because they had
Starting point is 00:20:51 just recently wrapped filming, but he said, here, let me read what he said. My character's out in the woods, kidnapping hikers, killing them and rotting their bodies to feed to this monster. And I pick up a couple hikers. It's just the three of us in a bunker. It's got a very psychological, my guy's a psychological feel. My guy's almost like a Kurt's character in Apocalypse now. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 00:21:16 That's a deep cut. Yeah. So, like I said, I pretty much liked almost everything he's been coming out with. So the only thing that he's come out with that I want to see that I know is going to be bad, but it's going to be in that so bad it's good, is that a Glenn Danzig movie, he just did, the vampire movie. He's in that, too? Yeah, I think he's the main guy.
Starting point is 00:21:41 Holy fly. Vampire Western from Glenn Danzig. Okay. Might be the one that pushes out of escape room, too. The Lentbiscuit guy can do a movie. Let's see. Dennis Villeneuve, Villeneuve, Villeneuve, however you say his name, he has confirmed that Fade will be in the sequel for Dune.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Of course, this was the character previously played by Sting. Oh, yeah. Is it going to be Sting? I think it has to be. How old is he now? Young enough to still play it, I think. Yeah, I would think so. I mean, he's pretty old, but is there an age limit on that guy?
Starting point is 00:22:38 I don't know. Not Sting. Yeah. No age limit on Sting. Kind of like George Burns. George Burns was X until he was 100. All right, and we're going to finish off with some Stephen King news. We talked about a while ago they were going to do movies based off of his book, If It Bleeds.
Starting point is 00:23:04 Yes. The first one they're going to do, and they're working with Netflix on this one, is Mr. Harringon's phone. Did I say that right, Lance? I think Mr. Harrigan's. Harrigins. That's right, yep. This is being developed by American Horror Story creator Ryan Murphy. They're working with Blumhouse on this, and it is going to be directed by John Lee Hancock.
Starting point is 00:23:30 And we got some casting news for it. Donald Sutherland will play Mr. Harrigan. Great casting. And Jaden Martell, everybody remembers him. He was Young Bill, and then he was the... How did Daniel Craig put his character? character in Knives Out, the Nazi kid
Starting point is 00:23:51 masturbating in the bathroom. Oh, shit. That kid, okay. All right. He is also joined the cast, so. Interesting. It's a good story. I wouldn't call it necessarily horror. I mean, it has horrific elements to it, but it's more of a
Starting point is 00:24:07 human story, you know? Yeah. I believe this is the first of what I'm trying to remember. I think it was three movies that going to make out of this book? Makes sense. And then there's actually a sequel to,
Starting point is 00:24:25 what was the one that came out on HBO last year? It was 10 episodes. Oh, uh, Body Switcher. Oh, damn it. Yeah, there's a sequel to that. The outsider. Yes, the outsider. It's different characters, but it's one character that was in the outsider as well as the
Starting point is 00:24:43 Mr. Mercedes books. Yeah. Well, we might get another season of that, just not on HBO. Mr. Mercedes? No, the outside. It was one of those shows that was well-received and popular, and they canceled it.
Starting point is 00:25:00 For some reason, they were canceling all their shows that people liked. So, we'll see. Yeah, not sure where they're going to go after the way it ended, but we'll see. And I think that's, yep, that's all the news. Very, very slow news week.
Starting point is 00:25:23 It happens, holiday season and all. But what do we got in the trailer park? Well, we just talked about epics and Blumhouse, so we'll talk about their new series called From. From unravels the mystery of a nightmarish town in middle America that traps all those who enters. After the unwilling residents fight to keep a sense of normalcy and search for a way out,
Starting point is 00:25:50 they must also survive the threats of the surrounding forest. including a terrifying creature that comes out when the sun goes down. The only one I recognized in the cast was Harold. How do you say his name? Paranoon. Parano. Parano. What else I was saying?
Starting point is 00:26:12 I first remember him back in the day. He was on Oz. He was the guy in the wheelchair. He was in that show, Clause. Oh, yeah. Still is. He was a son's anarchy. Yes.
Starting point is 00:26:28 He was really big and lost. Yeah, lost. He's been in a ton of movies. Yeah, I know he was in a bunch of stuff, but it was like, hey, I know that guy. I just didn't remember where. He's one of those guys. He's a big name. I didn't recognize anybody else either.
Starting point is 00:26:44 Yeah. Which I kind of like that, though. Yeah, I'm okay with that. I mean, we were just talking about Matt Damon and Ben Affleck with fucking weird haircuts. Had they been just. some dudes you wouldn't even have noticed. This one looks pretty cool, man. It's like a lost mix with the vampire one that they did on Netflix.
Starting point is 00:27:08 What's it called? Oh, damn, my memory. We don't know horror, guys. We don't. And I know what you're talking about it because I think you and me like, I think we all liked it. Yeah, it was really good. But that's sort of, it has that kind of feel to it.
Starting point is 00:27:28 You know, the sort of slow burn, middle of nowhere town, you have to figure out what's going on as it's happening sort of thing. Yeah, there was certain, I'm going to watch it. There were certain parts of it that just kind of hooked me. The scene where they're just constantly coming to the same point every time they think they're leaving. Right, right. The peak my interest. And then when they were told,
Starting point is 00:27:52 If you want to stay safe, basically just lock your doors and nail your window shut at night and you'll be fine. Yeah. Just nail the window shut. You'll be all right. Yeah. Just don't ever go outside at night. You're good. So definitely, I haven't really seen lost in it, but from what I do know about it, definitely gave me those vibes.
Starting point is 00:28:18 And, of course, they flashed that on the trailer from the. makers have lost. I noticed. Yeah. Or one of the producers of lost or something like that. Yeah. Yeah. Very, very, very lost. Very lost vibes.
Starting point is 00:28:32 Like almost too much. But I kind of got a little M. Knight Shaman kind of vibes too. Oh yeah. Definitely. So. Maybe they can stick the landing on this one. Yeah. Yeah. Hopefully.
Starting point is 00:28:48 This will be coming out February 20th, so we got a few months. But I think I'll be tuning in at least for the first couple episodes to see what it, see what it is. But it looks like it'll be good, though. Yeah, it sounds like it'll be worth sticking around for. Yeah, I hope it's heavy on the mystery because I like those shows. I'm sure it will be.
Starting point is 00:29:15 It looks like it is. All right, that's it. All right. On to listener feedback. This week, the podcast spotlight shines on binge aftertaste on bingemedia.com. Our friend Garrett Collins, Matthew Goodrow, and Adam Bunch jump into Talk About the Shining. Two books into this whole Stephen King retrospective, though it is in fact the third book, and we might have hit the plateau. The Shining has an interesting set of distinctions in the author's bibliography.
Starting point is 00:29:52 It remains one of the author's most popular books among readers, yet the original film adaptation has sparked more debate than anything that has ever been adapted. Is it a question of Stanley Kubrick taking the novel's content and changing them in the name of the author? Yes. Who Kubrick called a brat? Or is it really one of the scariest movies ever made, and King's shot shots at it unwarranted? Listen in as myself, Matt and Adam rejoin the answer to some of this debate. Listen on bingemedia.com or wherever you get your podcast. Be sure to search for the binge aftertaste.
Starting point is 00:30:33 Yes, and they're also jumping in with the Ghostbusters retrospective. I think they've already got the first one up and then they're going to move on, I think, to Dr. Sleep next. I love Dr. Sleep. I need to watch that one again. Yeah, I've rewatched it. I really liked it on the rewatch. Did you love the Kubrick Shining? Oh, I love the Shining.
Starting point is 00:30:58 But I've never read the book from what I understand. It's one of the most well-loved movies, but one of the worst adaptations ever. Depends on how you consider a bad adaptation, you know? Yeah, sometimes you've got to change things for the movie, you know? Yeah, a good movie is a good movie. movie, right? Yeah. Definitely. There's so many iconic scenes from that movie, so
Starting point is 00:31:24 they cast the perfect person, Jack Nicholson, because that guy's a fucking psycho. Yeah. I don't forever be his best part. Yeah, he pulled it off. I do like, what's her name in it?
Starting point is 00:31:43 Shelly Duvall. Yeah. Yeah. Because I they did so much they fuck with her so much on that she had to she had to get counseling after the movie was over yeah right but she played a great olive oil mm-hmm sure damn i didn't see that movie in years uh let's see regarding hellbound uh rob for us says trailer looks really good how is it so far it's holding up pretty good and from what i understand it's one of the highest rated Netflix shows right now on Rotten Tomatoes.
Starting point is 00:32:23 I will say the CGI on the Demons is kind of eh. Yeah. But it doesn't take you out, though. Yeah, I saw the first scene. I'm kind of excited to get back to it, though. It sort of sucked me in. I'm excited about it. All right, regarding death to metal, Anthony E. Barris says this one was fun.
Starting point is 00:32:49 Nice. Well, yet another podcast is covering blood rage. It's the I Like It Spooky podcast. Brian J. Godsell. Thanks for sharing. Oh, God. A lot of, a lot of podcasts cover that at this one. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:33:08 A lot of blood rage this year, huh? This is blood rage or thanks killing. And, of course, Marcy chimed in because they just covered it over there. She said, we did this as well, even though none of us on our shows are from the U.S. And I think they talk some shit about us in there somewhere along the way, so you may want to give that a listen. They took a lot of shit about us.
Starting point is 00:33:33 It was a coincidence. We were doing blood rage. It was on 2B. Thanksgiving. What are you going to do? And we recorded it on a Monday. It wasn't a Tuesday. And we gave them credit for the 2B Tuesday thing.
Starting point is 00:33:47 so. All right. Marcy also says Not a very good look into Thanksgiving in America. You have to see Black Friday. Mike Bachelor says there's a lot of blood rage going on
Starting point is 00:34:05 apparently. That's true. Yeah. For sure. Like Ghostbusters too, man. That ooze comes in and it just makes people fucking crazy. It's not cranberries.
Starting point is 00:34:17 I was. Let's see And of course the evolution of horror posts This isn't cranberry sauce I'm joined by Dream Warriors Becky Dark and Stevie Webb To discuss blood rage for our Thanksgiving special Now on Patreon
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Starting point is 00:35:28 Thehorrorterms.com. It's awesome. And now we'll move on to our featured attractions. This week, we go back to 1987. And since it's a part two, we figured we'd make sense to cover some sequels. So it's House 2, the second story. That's a great title.
Starting point is 00:35:51 I know. And goolies two. Hella good. According to this. All right. We're going to start with house two, though, which is called trash. Jesse moves into his biological parents' house with his girlfriend, Kate. And soon he hosts his friend Charlie with his girlfriend.
Starting point is 00:36:13 Jesse reads old documents and decides to go to the local cemetery with Charlie to unbury his great-great-grandfather to seek out an ancient powerful Aztec skull. They reanimate Gramps that soon befriends Jesse and Charlie, but demons cross gateways into the house to retrieve the magic skull, and Jesse and Charlie need to go to the other dimensions to retrieve the skull and keep Gramps alive. Yes, it's that crazy. The writer and rector is Ehan Wiley Also known for Elfman and Children of the Cord I think that's supposed to be corn
Starting point is 00:36:52 Okay I thought so And Children of the Corn 5 Fields of Terror I was like is that like a knockoff Is it like the porn version of Children of the Corn To aid the promotion of this movie A number of giveaways were A giveaway items were sent to theaters
Starting point is 00:37:08 These included Crystal Skull Nightlights and Catter Puppy figurines. There was a cat. So, So Spielberg ripped this off, huh? Probably. Devin DeVasquez, who plays the girl rescued from the Aztec Temple, is a former Playboy centerfold. Yes, she was.
Starting point is 00:37:34 I'm guessing not a virgin. They were maybe sacrificing the wrong person in this one. Yeah, there was never confirmation. All right, Lance, what did you think about House 2? Is it trash or hell of good? It's not trash. It's a fun movie, man. I don't know why Nez would give a 10 to Goolies 2 and give this like a
Starting point is 00:38:01 I guess we could say he gave it a zero, right? I mean, trash is trash. I don't want to keep it around. Yeah, maybe for Ness a 9.5, huh? Anything other than 10? If you ain't first or last. Aye. No, man, this was a lot of fun.
Starting point is 00:38:29 I watched it last night, in fact. And I don't know, man. I thought, like everybody in it was recognizable, but obviously it was kind of funny watching Bill Maher show up as the, what the hell was Bill Maher? Like just a was he like a talent
Starting point is 00:38:46 scout or something like that? I think, executive maybe? Yeah, I think Okay. Uh, his, uh, Jesse's girlfriend and Bill Maher, they work for us like some kind of record company or talent agency or something. Gotcha. That's why
Starting point is 00:39:02 he was always wearing the pink skinny tie, huh? Yeah, he was such a dick in this movie. he always is you guys ever seen cannibal women in the avocado jungle of death i was gonna bring that up because i it's it's on amazon prime and i i see a commentary coming because we we've talked about that movie so many times on this show and yeah yeah it was i don't know i thought it was a fun movie i mean was it cheesy yeah it was pretty Jesus.
Starting point is 00:39:36 Yeah, they dug up the grave. Some things happened that were like, okay, well, why were they digging up the grave to get the skull, right? Yeah, because of how much money they thought it was going to be worth, because they were saying, he was reading that article, and he was comparing skulls, and the one in the picture with his grandpa, had jewels in the eyes. Okay. So they thought they were just going to get paid. Kind of like a Goonies treasure hunt adventure, huh?
Starting point is 00:40:06 Yeah, except desecrating somebody's grave. Right. It turned out to be his grandfather, or great-grandfather, I guess, right? And then he comes out with that mask on. And I'm like, what is this some kind of fucking weird creature with pretty bad special effects? Then he rips it off and he's like, well, you old scalywags, you dug up my grave. I swear, I'm going to hunt you down like an old rat. raccoon and make a cap out of your boys, you know.
Starting point is 00:40:36 He's like an old prospector. Yeah, over the top prospector. I recognize that actor. I can't think of what else he's been in. Royal Dano. He's been in a lot of stuff, right? Yeah, like gooies too. Yeah, I was going to say he was the guy.
Starting point is 00:40:55 Let's see. He had a busy year. Yeah, he's been acting before. Yeah, he's passed. away now, but a career spanning almost 50 years, so Wow. Let's not pretend it took more than a month to film
Starting point is 00:41:10 either one of these movies. True. Yeah, true enough, man. But yeah, no, I don't know. I've said that fun, you know, cheesy 80s nostalgia, the special effects with the claymation and stuff like that. Then when they go into the one room and it's like dinosaurs. Oh, they went to a prehistoric age.
Starting point is 00:41:30 That was my favorite part. That barbarian is in the title or not title in the cast he's labeled as Arnold the barbarian Yes Is he a wrestler? He looks like a wrestler The only thing I recognized him from you guys you guys seen the running man Yeah he was Buzzsaw Oh okay Uh huh
Starting point is 00:41:54 That's the only thing I'm off top of my head Gotcha yeah it's I don't know, man. It was, I don't, I don't know why Nez hates it so much. I wish we had him on the whole show so we could find out what happened. But, I don't know. I had, I didn't have a big problem with it. You know, I kind of consider it sort of like a horror comedy, you know, heavy on the comedy, really, really light on the horror.
Starting point is 00:42:23 Maybe, maybe that was his problem. Maybe that maybe Nez was hoping it'd be scarier. But fuck, the first one, I mean, remember when he ran out of it? that front door with the AK-47 or whatever. And I mean, that wasn't to be taken too seriously either. So, and you're right, Brian, it's like a perfect title, you know, the second story. You know, maybe they'll do, yeah, if that had kept going, they could have had, you know, House 3, the high-rise. Oh, House.
Starting point is 00:42:50 House 3 has nothing to do with any of these movies. Yeah, it seems like they don't have anything to do with each other. What was House 3 about? House 3, I think it was, it's weird because I, I own the movie. It's kind of like a shocker kind of knockoff, but it has nothing to do with the series. So I think it was only by name.
Starting point is 00:43:12 But then part four is actually a direct sequel from part one because they bring back, what's his name, Greatest American Hero. Yeah, Greatest American Hero. That's his name. Yeah, they bring him back for the fourth one.
Starting point is 00:43:25 And they don't even recognize that too happened. It's a weird. franchise. It was fun, man. I'm not going to, I guess we're not going to do scores yet, but I'm not going to give it a trash. That's for sure. Brian, what do you think? Okay.
Starting point is 00:43:44 This is probably going to piss people off, but I actually like this one more than the first one because this is the one I grew up with. This was always on like TBS or TNT. It was always on cable, like constantly. I don't ever remember. seeing it. Yeah, that's that's my memory of it, of it always like every time I turn, turn, you know, just to put something on, it was, it was always on. I've seen it before a couple of times.
Starting point is 00:44:15 I think it's just a fun movie. I mean, you, you get a little bit of everything, get a little bit of horror, a little bit of comedy, western, you know, and it's a little bit of everything kind of mixed up, and I just, I just like the, I like the, I like the house, you know, you like, there's different little dimensions in each room. You know, you got a prehistoric age. You got a fucking Aztec temple through a fucking wall in the living room. And I fucking, even though they're fucking cheesy as hell, I like the puppets, the little teradactal and the fucking catter puppy.
Starting point is 00:44:51 I fucking wanted one when I was a kid. Yeah, it was kind of a cute, gross little thing, huh? Yeah, the Aztec version. question mark i thought i thought she was hella sexy um jesse you know i thought he was fine uh charlie he looked like kind of fucking like jim carrie and chevy chase had a baby and it was charlie he he was like the comedy relief which i i never even put the two together but he was uh the one guy billy from uh fright night jerry the vampire's little that's right that's right familiar. Yeah, I never
Starting point is 00:45:33 had all these years of watching those movies put it together, but yeah, same guy. Royal Dano as Gramps. I liked him. He was fun. And I just, Bill Maher was a fucking dick as soon as he saw Jesse talking to some other girl. He was like, oh, come here, I need to tell you something. I was like,
Starting point is 00:45:54 he had fucking asshole. The other girl was pretty hot. Bill Maher was still a fucking dick. and I would have clearly went with the girl dressed as the maid than the fucking bitchy girlfriend he already had because I don't know
Starting point is 00:46:11 she was and it was it was so weird for him to inherit this fucking giant house and then she's just kind of like complaining the whole time he just inherited a mansion and you are complaining about it
Starting point is 00:46:29 Mm-hmm. Amant to with extra dimensions. Yeah, which she never got to see them, so. Wow. And then John Ratzenberger, man. Yes. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:46:42 Cheers. Oh, Philip, is that the kind of electrician? You are? That was my favorite character. Yeah, he was my favorite character in this because of that. He was the electrician. He comes in. Do you have a business car?
Starting point is 00:46:57 This is electrician and adventurers. I'm getting one now Here's your problem right here You got another dimension behind you all He's so memorable in this movie Because he's just a electrician But then you know He's just not shocked that there's another dimension
Starting point is 00:47:16 Through the wall And of course he has a fucking You know, let me let me take care of it Of course he has a sword in the toolbox And he was like oh There's a right tool for every job And I'll I like the scene where they're rushing out.
Starting point is 00:47:31 And he's like, oh, just leave without me. I got this. And then when they get back, he's already out. He's like, I was wondering when you guys were going to get here. Jeez, he is an adventurer. Yeah, definitely putting that on a business card. Nobody's going to get it. But I will.
Starting point is 00:47:47 They will. They'll be old fans in the movie that'll get it. And it was a Halloween movie too, right? It took place around Halloween. So you got all the costumes. This would be a good 31 days of horror every year. Yeah, Kane Hodder was the guy in the gorilla costume. No shit.
Starting point is 00:48:03 Yeah, he was, I think he did stunt work in this movie. And I guess they just are like, oh, you're doing stunt work. You want to just be in a fucking random, yeah, random scene. He was just like, hell yeah. Well, I know Gil Birmingham, he's a pretty popular actor now. He's got a huge role in the Yellowstone TV show. Apparently his first role was as one of the Aztec warriors. I didn't recognize him that this is.
Starting point is 00:48:29 a long time ago. So he's a really big name that I guess got to start in this from what I hear. Yeah. It makes sense that Kane Hodder's in this because this movie's produced by Sean S. Cunningham, who, of course, did the first original night or not nightmare now. I was trying to cuss me out on the Friday the 13th. We knew what you meant, man. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:48:53 He said Kane Hodder. And there's another some, there's another, oh, Lark. LAR Park, Lincoln. I think she was the actress who played the maid, or the girl dressed as the maid. Oh, man. She's also in a Friday of 13th movie, so. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 00:49:14 Yeah, she can be with that feather dust or any day. Yeah. Yeah, he clearly chose wrong. But then he made up with the Aztec Princess Virgin. Yeah, he was getting off action. Yeah, okay, that's definitely an upgrade. And I just like how it ended, you know, he just chose to go to the West because he's a murderer now because they think he fucking murdered the captain of the police force. And I liked that.
Starting point is 00:49:50 Yeah, that was a strange ending to a movie, huh? Yeah. It was a strange ending. And some of the effects were kind of hokey, but I just liked that. I like the whole thing with the Gramps and what was the guy, Slim Razor. You know, that Western aspect to it, I just kind of like that. I kind of like the design of that guy. Slim Razor?
Starting point is 00:50:11 Yeah, he's like zombie Yosemite Sam. Yeah, I like the way he looked, but when he came riding in him at horse, though, that the skeleton horse. Wasn't that last scene where the once upon a time, in Hollywood took place where Charles Manson was hiding it. Was that the same Oh, Spano Ranch? Or you mean
Starting point is 00:50:36 the house? You mean the house? No, I thought the ranch, like the very last scene. Oh, really? Again, but I could swear. Yeah, I could swear that that's the same, you know, lot in Los Angeles that was featured in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood.
Starting point is 00:50:52 It could be. They filmed a lot of movies there. Yeah, and the house looked familiar. too. I don't know if it's been in any other movies, but it looked really familiar. Yeah, so, and like I said, I'm a fan of this, maybe more so than other people are probably going to be like, what the fuck are you talking about? But it just, as a kid,
Starting point is 00:51:18 and just to have that many different kind of aspects, like I said, the Western, the horror, the action, the comedy, just, it was a little bit of everything. And just, loved it since I was a kid Okay, I stand corrected. It was Paramount Ranch and that was heavily used in HBO's Westworld but was
Starting point is 00:51:39 destroyed in a fire a couple of years ago. Aren't they always destroyed in a fire? Seems that way, doesn't it? Yeah, when California, it sure is. Seems like when they're done using it, it gets destroyed. Somebody's getting a check. Just like those
Starting point is 00:51:59 rides in Universal Studios when they want they were talking about changing them they mysteriously caught on fire hmm that's interesting uh yeah man i you know and i thought you guys were gonna think i was crazy for saying this but i kind of enjoyed this movie man it was it really was a lot of fun i like the whole crystal skull aspect of it um which i've done acroyd is surprisingly well versed on crystal skull Yeah, you've got to listen to him and talk about it. It's great. He based his bottle of tequila on a crystal stone. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:52:41 Yeah, I think they all turned out to be bullshit, but it's fun to think about it anyway. Fun stuff. Yeah. And I like that it was really kind of just an adventure movie. Yeah, like they raise Gramps from the dead, and he's there hanging out, and then they have to stop people from other timeframes that are trying to get the crystal skull. And that whole dinosaur scene was great.
Starting point is 00:53:11 Pewee's playhouse, huh? Yeah. He's like climbing up the tree and getting a hold of that bird that's trying to swing at it. It was pretty fucking fun. And the whole movie's ridiculous. It's completely retarded. But it's fun.
Starting point is 00:53:28 And I had a blast watching it, you know? So I was happy. Sounds like three, not trance. Well, especially, because I watched the goolies too first, and we'll get to that one. We'll get to that one. All right. Scores, Lance, what do you think? Oh, I'll go seven out of ten.
Starting point is 00:53:54 It was a fun movie. It was cheese. but it was fun cheese. Yeah. Yeah, it's definitely one of those that would be a good, you know, Halloween movie to watch with a group of drunken friends or whatever. You know, I love the way that they had all the, they had the Halloween party going on. Did you see, did you guys see the Batman? Yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:54:16 See, I thought just that alone would have had Nez give it a 10 because you know how much Nez loves Adam West Batman. See, and it seems like it needs to revisit. Yeah, it does, doesn't it? It seems like a Nez movie. what do you think turned him off you think he got pissed off about the crystal skull thing because he thinks maybe they they went forward in time and stole it from Spielberg
Starting point is 00:54:39 or what? No, I think he has more love for the original and this one's a complete kind of left turn from that one he was mad that the greatest American hero didn't show up yeah you know you probably wanted him to show up you know, with that sweet, fucking low-cut v-neck sweater he was wearing. That's what it was. Yep, I think we figured it out.
Starting point is 00:55:04 Mystery solved. Brian, what do you think? I'm going to go a little bit higher and give it a seven and a half, just based off everything Lance said, it's a fun movie, and it's very nostalgic for me. And like I said, I always wanted a caterper puppy. I don't know what kind of mess that thing makes, man. It seems kind of gross.
Starting point is 00:55:28 But it seems fun. It drinks beer. Well, that's true. Yeah, right. He had to cut him off. He said, you had enough, our nation. Well, you're the one who put it in a fucking bottle and gave it to him. Jesus.
Starting point is 00:55:44 Come on. Gramps seem fun. Yeah. He's like, you ever robbed a stage coach? I was, I robbed a bunch of them. Oh, yeah. Let me tell you these stories. All kinds of stories.
Starting point is 00:55:56 And it kept saying, you'll be sure to bring back some beer. I don't know if they ever did. Hey, did y'all notice they knocked over that mailbox or whatever or that post that stone post in front of the house three different times and three different people showed up. They would, I guess, rebuild it and somebody else would run into it.
Starting point is 00:56:17 See it, I like that. I thought that was funny. Good running gag, right? Yeah. All right. I'm going to go, I think I can give it a legit seven, and this was a really fun movie. It wasn't good by any means, but it was really fun. And I enjoyed watching it.
Starting point is 00:56:39 It held my attention. Nice. Not a lot more than that. Yeah. All right. On to Goolies, too. Hella good. And here we go.
Starting point is 00:56:53 The Goolies wreak havoc at an amusement park at an amusement park. Disposing of those. who make mistake them for fairground attractions director is Albert band also known for Dracula's dog and dog portrait yes he is Charles Band's father writer is Dennis Paoli also known for reanimator and from beyond well well probably better than Dracula's dog This film and its predecessor were caught in a moral panic in the 80s, accusing the popular culture of endorsing and glamorizing witchcraft,
Starting point is 00:57:38 the occult and Satanism. Uh-oh. The night scenes of the carnival were actually shot on an interior soundstage in Rome with rented off-season equipment. Most of the extras only spoke Italian. Oh, interesting. Lance, what did you think about goolies? Was it hella good?
Starting point is 00:57:57 Uh, it wasn't hella good. It was fun. I actually, I think I preferred house too a little bit more, but I don't know, man. I can't complain too much, man. I'm a sucker for anything that's at a carnival or an amusement park or something like that. It's no Child's Play 3, that's for sure. Because you didn't get that crazy, bizarre roller coaster scene that was, there's no way a roller coaster could act that way due to something called physics. I didn't know that when I was a kid It was awesome Nah We didn't know when we were kids It was a somewhat fun movie I definitely liked to pay off
Starting point is 00:58:37 In the bathroom scene Which uh oh I think Spielberg stole that for Jurassic Park You know they They added that scene after the fact Did they really? Yeah because I guess somebody said You know why why is a ghouly
Starting point is 00:58:52 In a toilet on the poster But it doesn't happen in a movie And they went, shit, we did forget about that one. Totally forgot. It was definitely cheesier than House, too, for sure. I mean, there's no doubt in my mind about that. But it wasn't terrible. I mean, you know, like I said, there was a lot of things that I liked about it.
Starting point is 00:59:17 The dancing girls were kind of funny. And the dude that was pimping them out for the show, I'm sure they were. Was that her dad? I think so. That's weird. I think he would send them behind the tent for like 10 extra dollars. Maybe you could get a blowjob or something like that. What?
Starting point is 00:59:36 Did that? Well, money's money, dude. A Carney's life is tough, you know? Probably happens more than you would think. Probably a lot more. I'm not going to say it was terrible. You know, it's kind of like house too, you know, not a masterpiece, but, I had a certain amount of fun watching it.
Starting point is 00:59:58 I'm curious what you guys have to say. All right. Brian, what do you think? This is another one that kind of holds a nostalgic place for me because just like House 2, this was always on TV. Yeah, I definitely saw this one. It's another one that I have to say I like better than the original. Because I think the design of the demons, the puppets for them,
Starting point is 01:00:26 I think they were a lot better, a lot better than the original one. It was a little step up from this, from the first one. We got Royal Dano again. This time is not Gramps, but he's Uncle, Uncle Ned. Right. I liked Sir Nigel, the little guy. Oh, yeah. Yeah, he was great.
Starting point is 01:00:50 He's been in a lot of stuff, too. Yeah. and I thought it was fun. I agree with you, Lance. The whole carnival kind of setting. It's a great setting for a horror movie, definitely. Always, yeah. You guys have seen The Fun House, right?
Starting point is 01:01:09 Yeah, I think we did that one. Oh, we did. We covered for the show. Yeah, like 10 years ago. A long time ago. It'll be up for a re-upload here pretty soon, I'm sure. courtesy of you know i mean courtesy of a certain music group
Starting point is 01:01:26 yeah but yeah i just think it was fun you know just just these little little demons you know killing people uh for some reason the the one scene just whenever i think about this movie it always sticks out when he
Starting point is 01:01:43 i don't know which demon it was gets the the couple stuck together which rewatching it yeah which rewatching it i don't he's got one hand stuck on her boo but his other hands free but he never moves it he didn't move the whole time at first i was like why are they still kissing what is going on yeah i some serious super blue yeah i do wish there was a a little bit more kills in it which i from what i understand i don't own it but uh i guess uh this There's scenes that were put back into the movie on the Blu-ray because they cut some scenes out because, I think, for rating purposes. For the moral panic.
Starting point is 01:02:30 Like the toilets. The toilets. Oh, the moral panic. Yeah. From what I understand there, there was more gore and, like, limbs cut off and all kinds of stuff like that that they took out of the movie. Oh, that would have made it better. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:02:47 That's the version we need, right? and we get another great casting for a role I don't know the actor's name but the guy that played the young guy that owned the carnival yeah right great great casting
Starting point is 01:03:02 because that guy seemed like he used a fucking dick in real life the guy to get he gets it in the end on the toilet yeah well Bill Mark could have played that part pretty easily right yeah definitely
Starting point is 01:03:18 Yeah. But it's just nostalgic for me, and I had a lot of fun on this rewatch with this one. All right. I'm going to go to the opposite, man. I think this movie was hell of trash. Oh, really? Yeah. This was dog shit, man.
Starting point is 01:03:38 This is one of those moments where I feel a disturbance in the forest. I love it. For some reason, Nez, he is just having a good time. and all of a sudden he just stopped. And it was just like, what is that I'm feeling right now? Like, I mean, okay, the special effects were bad, but that's kind of part of the draw to it, you know? Okay.
Starting point is 01:04:05 I guess. And, you know, I always like the puppets. I don't know why they always make the same fucking, wham-ma-na-w-na-na-noises, but. There seem to be one that could kind of talk. Yeah. Like, I noticed it on this. rewatch, like when the hole gets
Starting point is 01:04:20 created in the wall so they can get out of the whatever little fun house they were in. And it's like, wow. Well, I mean, like in every movie, they did it in house too also. It's like anytime there's a puppet coming around, it's
Starting point is 01:04:35 what do you make that noise? And but the acting was fucking terrible on top of that. Was it that bad? It was pretty fucking bad.
Starting point is 01:04:54 Outside of Royal Dano, the only guy I recognize is William Butler. He's in Texas Chainsaw Masker 3 and the Nightmare Nighting Dead remake, the Thompsonini one. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:05:08 I recognize the little guy. Yeah. Him and then the guy that gets stuck to his girlfriend. I've seen him in a bunch of movies. I mean, okay, that was It was kind of funny There's a little bit of a draw to that kind of stuff
Starting point is 01:05:24 You know, that guy, oh, my tunes, man, I lost my tunes Oh, that guy was such a bitch He's supposed to be this fucking tough guy With his, I'm doing air quotes gang Yeah Because he fucking had a nerdy guy with him Which was the William Butler character With his fucking vest on
Starting point is 01:05:44 I didn't get there a little crew. I didn't either. The first thing he does is go and tell the police. Yeah. I'm like, what kind of hoods are you guys supposed to be? And then the police officer is just like, oh, I know these kids, but I don't know you. And I'm like, oh, so you know the police? Like you, what do you run and tell every time?
Starting point is 01:06:07 My tunes. Shut up. Yeah. But like the main girl that's in it, she's awful. Yeah. And everything. She's awful. She can't close her mouth or something, man.
Starting point is 01:06:25 She didn't. Smiling in every scene when she's supposed to be scared or something. Was it me or did she seem like she was way older than she was supposed to be? Yes. Yeah. I was thinking that the whole time I was like, man, she does not. look like she's at all even close to his age. Yeah, because he looked like he can, at the oldest could be like early 20s, like 21, 22,
Starting point is 01:06:50 but she looked like she was like 35. Yeah. Yeah, drugs are bad. And then the, like all the, I guess they're extras, I don't know, like the little kids that came in and stuff, who I actually recognized at least one of them. yeah he you ever see night of the demons yeah okay he's the one that for some he has that weird scene where he was just like oh bodacious boobie sis like you fucking weird out that is kind of weird hey these movies are fucking weird man
Starting point is 01:07:26 like he i love that movie but that kid there's like two or three scenes where he's just talking about his sister's tits for some reason yeah Oh, great. That's Hollywood. You're only like my sister because she's got big chachos. But every time they had to, like, stand in front of the goolies and, like, it was just a crowd of people, and they would all yell their specific line over and over or whatever. And they're, yeah, all right. You know, it was.
Starting point is 01:08:03 Like, evil dies tonight? Yeah, I mean, yeah, evil dies tonight. I do like the scene where they got the guy in the guillotine and the other guys strapped to the table and everybody's just like, yeah, this is great. And the guy's just like, you fucking kids, this is real.
Starting point is 01:08:22 Why don't they have a real guillotine and a carnival? That's what I want to know. Yeah, now that you bring it up, they had actual blades on them, but everything else was fake in a carnival. Well, I'm sure that was probably fake too. but it never actually got to fall on his head so we didn't see
Starting point is 01:08:40 we don't know for sure right yeah that should have happened I know and that's how the crowd should have found out that it that is real I wanted to see that man we got robbed maybe that's what pissed Ness off huh oh wait Nes loved this one right that's what Piss
Starting point is 01:08:59 Phillip yeah he loved this one now I'm interested I'm not I kind of understand how it's too but I want to know what his thoughts on Goolies too is I really am curious Yeah like what makes it in the 10 right Oh yeah no hesitation on that 10 Yeah this this conversation's not over right
Starting point is 01:09:24 He probably hadn't seen it in 30 years I'm sure he has But yeah man And then like he kills him with a They wrap a Molotov cocktail that they made just on the fly somehow. Right. Stuffed in a gorilla suit. And then the main ghouly thing explodes.
Starting point is 01:09:53 I was like, I don't think that's how that works. It doesn't make a lot of sense, does it? No. Yeah, I didn't, yeah, if you summon the big demon, the big googly, why don't you just send them back? seems like it would be a good idea I mean it seemed a lot easier to read the book again instead of
Starting point is 01:10:15 coming up with this elaborate bomb inside of a gorilla suit and apparently this this demon doesn't know what other demons look like yeah because he just eats everybody he's going after Sir Nigel he was like oh you're little you must be a demon
Starting point is 01:10:31 oh there's a gorilla with the stick of dynamite in his mouth and or whatever. Right out of his eye. I'm going to go, let me eat that. Hey. Humans aren't very smart. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:10:47 Philip, it seems like you're starting to sell me and Brian a little bit. Well, I mean, you know, it is a dumb movie. And I guess I can understand, like, nostalgia and stuff. But, like, to say that Gouis is better than House 2 is beyond me. I don't understand that. I had a hard time paying attention to this one. because it was so bad. Oops, that's not a good sign.
Starting point is 01:11:11 Was this a full moon feature, guys? Because it was banned and... When it was Empire. Okay. All right, so this was just before we went over to full moon, right? Yeah, technically same thing, but they hadn't got the name yet. Okay. Which I think I read a story.
Starting point is 01:11:30 They don't own the rights to these movies because he sold them to get money because at the time they were losing money. and I think that's how full moon came about. Well, imagine that, Philip. They were losing money. How much could this movie have possibly cost to make? Not that much. Well, I mean, yeah, and then you got the sequels,
Starting point is 01:11:52 because I know part three is goleys go to college. Well, and cocaine. That's always the general. Yeah, I'm about to say, I guarantee you. Well, probably 50% of the budget went to get them all to Italy, and then 40% went to cocaine. and then whatever we're with it 10% right? I mean, if you're writing a script that's seriously called Goolies Go to College,
Starting point is 01:12:16 I mean, there's got to be some drugs involved. Oh, yeah. You think? Maybe some keg stands. All right. Scores. Lance, what do you think about gooies? Six and a half.
Starting point is 01:12:35 It was fun. Not a 10? I had fun with it. Yeah, six and a half. No, six and a half out of ten, but not a ten. But, uh, so see, I gave house, house two a little bit higher score. So there. All right.
Starting point is 01:12:50 Brian? Yeah, I think four. I bring us down. Uh, yeah, I'll bring us a little bit of, uh, seven. And it's all based on nostalgia. Yeah, I do wish I owned this movie, but the, the, the, the Blu-ray came out. It was like a double feature. Goolies one and two.
Starting point is 01:13:07 And it's, it's out of, print and I'm not I'm not paying those kind of prices I can see that yeah but I heard some Vestron owns the series and they put out a lot of collectors editions
Starting point is 01:13:22 so I'll take a box set for a reasonable price yeah don't don't send one to Phil no I don't plan on ever watching this movie again send Phil Vestron if you're here and send
Starting point is 01:13:38 him the steel book collector's edition I can see where this sort of falls into the so bad that it's good category but man it it tried and missed the mark for me yeah I'd be pretty
Starting point is 01:13:56 happy if I never have to see gooies too in my life I'm gonna give it to oh you Phil you just wait you just wait till go to college oh man well now that I'm interested it in. Does Rodney Dangerfield show up, though?
Starting point is 01:14:13 Yeah, I have not seen Goolies since. I don't even remember the last. I might have seen it once. Goalys Goalies. Come on. Maybe I watched this one first, and it sort
Starting point is 01:14:26 of set the tone for me. Because I expected House 2 to be every bit as bad as this, if not worse. It was all up from here. Yeah, because I'd never seen House 2 before. When I watched that, I was like, oh, this is a fun movie coming off of gooly. So, I mean, that may have raised my house two score, but it dropped my gooies two score.
Starting point is 01:14:49 So, I mean, I don't know. Maybe I just wasn't ready for this level of suck. We do. We do still have the year in horror 1990 coming up, Brian. Oh, the 90s. There's going to be some choices on there. All right. I'm sure most of them involved.
Starting point is 01:15:08 Ned Campbell. That was more late 90s, I guess. We might be able to sneak wild things in there. Oh. That was like a thriller. That was a thriller, huh? Yeah, close enough.
Starting point is 01:15:24 That one's hell of good. All right. Any last words on goolies? No. I think you nailed it. You put the final nail in the coffin on that one, man. Yeah, and I'm not the one. usually shit on movies, but
Starting point is 01:15:40 well, this one kind of had it coming. Oh, my tunes. Well, look at it this way, if Philip goes to take a shit on this movie, there's going to be a gooly in the toilet. That's so weird they had to add that in.
Starting point is 01:15:58 That is weird. Well, why is it on the cover? I think it happens in the first one, right, Lance? I don't know. I don't think so. I don't think he died. Darren, Wilson, you're listening, can tell us,
Starting point is 01:16:11 remind us, because you picked this one earlier. So, Goulies won. So was there a toilet scene? I don't think so. Well, I think the,
Starting point is 01:16:19 the poster is just one ghouly on the toilet. Right. And then in the third when I'm looking at it right now, it's three ghoulies. I was wearing a graduation,
Starting point is 01:16:29 college graduation. Well, you know, I remember that about Gullies. I think I remember that about Gullies. It was, I was like, why is the cover like this?
Starting point is 01:16:37 Because it has nothing to do with the movie. I remember that. It's all a rip-off of Gremlins, right? Yeah, I remember we did that episode. I think we did what we did goolies and munchies. Yes. Boy.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Only the best for you guys. Hey, I don't know anybody else I was reviewing monkeys. That's true. No, it's not like, it's no blood rage. Is it? We hit the deep cuts. All right.
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Starting point is 01:18:15 Yeah. We got through on without talking about wrestling. Wrestling returns, episode coming. We've got to talk about the last pay-per-view, and, of course, we've got to talk about the fan on Monday Night Raw that wrestling was a little bit too real from him, and he had to jump to barricade and attack one of the rest of the game. what that's great man this is why
Starting point is 01:18:40 you guys watch wrestling huh hey it wasn't tell that guy what was going on I I think that guy was just crazy because he claimed to be related to other wrestlers and he was doing it for the know
Starting point is 01:18:54 which is weird because the guy he attacked is not in a storyline with any of those wrestlers he had a nice takedown though good double like takedown really that's kind of awesome but fans
Starting point is 01:19:10 don't do that because you you jump the barricades or jumping to the ring they have free reign to just beat your ass they should realistically
Starting point is 01:19:25 they probably get sued for it but they should have free reign to be oh I don't I don't think they're liable you don't think you jump in the ring to attack somebody, I think you're, yeah. I've seen wrestlers beat the shit
Starting point is 01:19:42 out of people that jumped in the ring. As well they should. As well they should. Like streakers at soccer games. But Brian, I see no evil, hear no evil episode. You guys said you're going to do every other week or something like that? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:20:00 Just me and Ness got a lot of stuff going on with family and, you know, we he does East Society and McNiz and you know we got the horror returns so you're not going to get stream fiends in action every week both shows are going to be every other week so you'll get one show one week and then
Starting point is 01:20:18 the next the next week make it a little bit easier all right there's our wrestling returns tiny segment segmented but next week it's our special Patreon commentary for Sean Henry with clerks two And Tavares, we'll get you back on, man.
Starting point is 01:20:41 I am so sorry. I'm pretty sure that was my fuck up or Skype's fuck up or something. I'm going to go with Skype. Yeah, we'll fix it. And you can pick the movies. It'll be great. I'll open it from here. Sorry, man.
Starting point is 01:20:58 But until the horror returns again, Brian. Good night.

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