The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #292: The Matrix Resurrections (2021)

Episode Date: December 29, 2021

This week, our old pal Pedro Nunez from Kayfabulous Lucha Bros. joins us for a return to the world of The Matrix. In what is becoming an annual tradition, we also get Pedro's top and bottom 10 horror films of 2021. Cool of the Week includes Yellowjackets, Emmit Otter's Jug Band Christmas, Don't Look Up, and Spider Man No Way Home. Trailers this week are The Northman, The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent, and Everything Everywhere All at Once. The podcast spotlight shines on The Bingecast and The League of Geekz. And we get feedback from Xim Vader, Steven Lowblad, Ricky Morgan, Danny Bennett, Matt Jones, Ian McFadyen, Boz Bozier-Lown, Kate Pollock, and Phillip Perron. WE GET AN EMAIL FROM DAERON WILSON - BOOM! You're in the contest! Thanks for listening!

victims. For those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language.

Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Back one and all to The Horror Returns. I'm Lance, and with me as always, my co-host, Philip and Brian. And tonight we welcome back our old buddy, our first guest ever to The Horror Returns. It's, of course, we're talking about Pedro Nune. from Cape Fabulous Lucha Brothers. How's it going, guys?

What's up, man? I'm happy to be back here, a little sick, but I'm old school, so I just tape it up and keep on going forward. That's what we do here. You're practically part of the show, so, you know, you need no introduction, but what's going on at KFAB? We're doing pretty good. We just recorded our year-in-review show. It was about four hours long, and I got blitz on that show, so we run a little, we run out of gas a little bit there towards the end. But still for a fun time, that's going to drop next week right before New Year's.

And other than that, we're just rolling along. We got the KLB page. We talk wrestling. We make fun of Danny Louis all the time, so it's all good. That is all good, man. By the way, Lance, you gave us a lot of material with all with the, what was it, the 30 days of Christmas

thing you were watching. Oh, Jesus. Brother, I've still got one more to go. So I ain't off the hook yet. I can't believe they made it through 30. But one of them is going to be by Cool of the Week, so we'll see how that turns out. Spoiler alert, it's not a Hallmark movie. I was waiting for it.

You guys want to, we got a lot to cover tonight because Pedro's going to, you're doing your top and bottom 10 with us or what? Yes. I have them right here, written down. Nice. And I want a Nest to be here because I think there's a movie he's been putting over. and I haven't been my bottom of the year. And I know he's been very defensive about the criticism of this such movie.

Interesting. You do know Nez is working like 80-hour weeks. He's in the airline industry. Well, that sucks. Yeah, but he'll be in next week. I hope. I thought all the flights got canceled. Yeah, I know.

So what fuck's he doing? Brian, you want to get any ideas? I don't think it is from the pictures I've seen. I don't think his airport got canceled. No shit. Taking everybody else's rejects. Oh, man. Let's jump into Cool of the Week.

Pedro, what you got? Well, I've been watching this, since I've been home sick and pretty much isolated, I started watching this Yellow Jackets TV show. And a really good show, really, really interesting. And, you know, one of the things about these kind of shows where, you know, I'm not going to get into any spoilers for the people that haven't seen it, but they do that time jump gimmick, you know, where they go back and forth, kind of like lost. And because of the wounds that Lost left us with, you know, as a viewer now, you're always a little trepidacious to go forward with these fucking shows, right?

So it's like, wait a minute, I don't know if I need to trust or invest in this show and they're going to burn me like a previous show did. So, but so far so good. And then I started researching some of the showrunners comments and they're like, you know, no, we're up about giving answers and we're going to keep you guys with a steady flow of questions and answers. So we're going to try to hit that sweet spot as far as, you know, kind of like a onion, just peel at the layers of the story as we're going forward. And so far, seven episodes sit and it's pretty good. It's a good little story and the performances are pretty good. So I'm going to stick with it.

Nice, yeah. That was Brian's Cool of the week. I think the first week it was out, man. Yeah. I don't think it's already greenlit for a second season. Yeah. Heard good things. Hopefully they'll wrap it up.

And not lost us, right? Well, it is on showtime, and you know, they're notorious for that eight season shows, you know? So who knows? You know? Is that it? Well, I saw, like everyone else in the country, I saw Spider-Man, but I'm not going to get into that because I guess you know, I could, I guess.

I mean, I could, I guess. I mean, it was, you know, what else needs to be said? It was a great fucking movie. Yeah, Lance. I know. I did read Lance comments. Right. And you're also wrong. So there you go.

I hear that a lot. And there's nothing wrong with that because eventually we're all going to be wrong. So the thing is, no, yeah, just great, great time at the movies. Now, I did start to think a little more in depth about what this means for the future of movies. And it was bittersweet for me because on one end, I was very happy that this movie showed the industry that a movie could still bring in an audience, even in this pandemic era that we're in. So that's good because that means that theaters have a chance to survive, right? So I was very excited about that.

On the other hand, though, is that we know that these suits, these corporations, they don't care about story, they don't care about characters, they only care about what they feel brought the audience in. And now I think we're going to have Cameo City and all these other fucking movies going forward. And that's one thing that really kind of makes me fearful of the future because, you know, this movie was great, but we don't need. 10 carbon copies of this movie going forward. You see what I'm saying?

And I think that's what we're going to get. But all in all, it was a great time. Like, you know, see it with an audience. I mean, even now, you know, it adds to the spectacle of it all. And yeah, I don't want to get too much into it more because, you know, we still, we're still in that weird time where we can't talk about it or could talk about it. But I'd rather not. I would say, I would say nine on ten.

I would say this, my second favorite MCU movie of all time. Of all time. Holy shit. Nothing's going to be Avengers Endgame because that was a castile movie. That's a movie that only comes around once in a generation just because of everything that went into it. But this particular film would take the number two spot. And Civil War was up there for many, many years as the number two movie. Now it's been bumped down to number three.

I like Ragner Rock. It's my favorite. That's another one. That's a lot of people's top five. Yeah, definitely. So those are my two cool of the weeks. All right. Well, I'll jump in.

I watched a movie on Netflix called Don't Look Up. Oh, this looks awesome. It was pretty funny, man. I liked it. It was pretty cool. And, you know, I know that they were kind of taking aim at one side or the other, but I think they said a lot about the whole system in general. Good.

So it's the same guy that did Step Brothers, if I'm not mistaken? It's Adam McKay, yes. Okay. That's what I thought. Who's been focusing a lot on doing the satires of politics lately after he had the big hit with, what was it, the big short, I think it was. Yeah, so now he's really kind of tuned in or dialed in into these kind of films. And like you said, I really liked it a lot.

I thought it got a little hammy at times. Like, I understand it was a satire and a parody and all that, but some of that stuff was just ridiculous. But at the same time, I thought Jonah Hill did a great job. I thought he stole the movie. I thought he was phenomenal as a douchebaggy, you know, politician's son. Yeah. And he has a good comeuppance there at the end. Actually, they all do.

But anyways, so, yeah, no, I love that movie as well. It's a little bit long, but hey, it's on Netflix. It's free and I'm sick. So I could do long right now. Yeah, and it's entertaining. It's not a typical Leo movie, but he rocked it, I think. I liked it a lot. Yeah.

Yeah, no, it was good. Yeah. And that and, of course, my Cowboys just made the team that shall not be named look like a high school team. It was awful. that was I've never seen them play like that if they can play like that we got a cowboy Super Bowl and uh y'all better get ready that was that was a shalacking hell yeah it's 42 to 7 at the half i look i know dude i've never seen that word and i'm like what the fuck uh anyway that's that's all i got uh Brian you want me to go because you usually have a

couple or do you yeah go ahead Mine's quick. I was listening to Rick and Danny a very hell mean Christmas. And they talked about the classic. I hadn't seen, God damn, I haven't seen this movie probably in 30 years or more. You guys remember Emmett Otter's Jug Band Christmas? Yeah, you're taking me back with that one. Yeah, man. I thought I've ever seen it. Oh, dude, it's awesome. It's the Muppets.

And it's a story that doesn't end the way you think it's going to end. The good guy doesn't necessarily win. It's all about the spirit of Christmas. It's about making sacrifices to give a gift to somebody that means a lot to them, but you have to sacrifice something to get the gift because these are really, let's just say that these otters don't, they're not like Fortune 500 otters. They're living out in the sticks, and they're having to kind of like make do with. with what they got, like make a homemade wash tub and stuff like that.

But it's a great message. The good guys don't win in the end. Spoiler alert, the bad guys win the big talent shows. So they don't get the huge $50 prize. But they all get together. They learn the true spirit of Christmas. And I was watching it with my four-year-old granddaughter. And I'll admit I cried a little bit when I saw her reaction to it.

you can take a really old Buppet movie with zero CGI and you can see the strings in several scenes. You got scenes where they're like throwing like stuffed animals around across the stage and shit like that

and she really got into it and she loved the final song which is where the Emmett Otter and his mom got together and the Jug band had an outro song with mom that was really sweet. So that's my cool of the week.

It's Christmas time. What can I say? I got a not so cool of the week, but guess what, Brian? I have to save it because it may be one more step. The movie I watched today may be one more step toward knocking escape room two out of that coveted bottom 10. But I'll wait.

I'll wait. All right. Let's see. First I watched Resident Evil, welcome to Raccoon City. Ah, I've heard mixed juice. See, this is my problem. That's the one in my...

Oh, boy. There was some very good practical effects, like when it came to the people that were infected. And then you go and fuck it up with this horrible... Every, like... I never played the game, so I don't have that nostalgia for the games or why wasn't this in the game or this game? character. From what I understand, they

did a good job on that part. But all the big monsters that you were waiting for, they were all, like, horrible CGI pieces of shit. Like, it was horrible. The one thing I knew was from the game was, like, the, I guess,

like the zombie-fied dogs or whatever. Yep. That was fucking horrible. It didn't even look like it was on screen. Oh, no. And I won't say it ruined the movie for me because I kind of, you know, like I said, I didn't have any nostalgic anything for the movie. And it was just kind of, you know, a shoot-em-up zombie movie. But I will say that's the only drawback for me is the fucking CGI was horrible.

You know, you think as far as they've come with like video game graphics and stuff in the last 20 or 30 years, like get some CGI that looks really real. Yeah The practicals that are going to make it look real Because we know from the 80s that Practicals do work I mean I know they're a little more expensive But you want to make a good movie Make a good movie especially a studio back movie

This is Sony They just made a boatload of fucking money From Spider-Man or whatever Yeah, a billion dollars Yeah put a little bit into these Resident Evil movies You know But they don't And so you get shit

That's what you get Yeah, and the practical effects are more creative, which is always more fun. So bottom 10, Brian? No. Okay. It's an honorable mention for me. That's what I said at Ness, because Ness has been really, he's been the flag bearer of this fucking movie for some weird reason over the last few weeks that I've been listening to you guys. Right, right.

And so I was like, I don't understand that because the movie fucking sucked. It's like, I don't know why he decided to die on that hill out of all the hills there is to die on. but he's saying, you know, you know the thing is that, one of the things that irks me a little bit is when people go out and say, well,

it's just a mindless action movie, just deal with it. I'm like, what is that supposed to mean? Like, does that give people license to make bad movies? That's one of the worst excuses

for poor filmmaking I've ever heard in my life. This idea that we're going to make a mindless action movie and thus, we shouldn't hold it to the standards of a regular movie. No,

you have a script, you have a budget, you have you have a creative license go ahead and use it and if you're an artist you're going to make a good movie no matter what we've seen film robert rodriguez had seven thousand dollars for el mariachi and he did a pretty goddamn movie very true and then he just made another one with his kid rocket or whatever the fuck that guy's a little crazy too naming his kids after cars and and he's got rocket and rebel and um oh boy anyways so he he made another movie i forget the name of it's on video on demand right now

where he only had 7G. Same thing as his first movie and he was helping his kid make a movie with nothing but $7,000 and creativity. So you're telling me that these people that do that you're telling me that the people that make these mindless action movies don't have that. It's just very defensive when people are like, well, it's just

to accept it because it's just a mindless movie. No, I don't accept it. If it's a piece of shit, it's a piece of shit. I don't care how much whipped cream you put on it. It's still going to be a fucking piece of shit. Well, unless there's Unless there's boobs, then we can give it. And there wasn't, not even zombie boobs boobs in this fucking movie.

Oh, Lord. Ouch. Ouch. All right. Let's see. Last night I did get to go see Spider-Man. And Lance, you are fucking wrong. Is this your cool of the week?

I got a package here in the mail. So that might be my cool of week. I'm going to do, sorry guys, my camera. I fucked up my camera. so I'm meant to do audio unboxing here but Spider-Man, Lance, before I get in mind, why the

fuck did you hate this movie? Were you mad? Did you need to Snickers or something? I'm going to give you, I'm going to give you two reasons that I did, that I disliked this movie. Okay, I disagree with them already. All right, done. We're finished.

All right, what now? What was the two? There is no way, absolutely no way that Dr. Strange the master of the mystic arcs could act could could could fucking be that that throwing off his game

by some fucking teenager yelling at him change the rules change the rules and he's like I'm trying to I'm trying to concentrate here change the rules change the rules

oh no she has to remember me that's not what happened that is not first of all Tom Holland doesn't sound like that well he did a next movie that's not what was happened skip ahead everybody five

minutes. He wasn't telling him to change the rules. He was changing it as he was speaking because he was told not to speak during. So you're telling me I need to rewatch it, huh? Okay. I don't think you watched it in the first place. I guess I missed that.

Also, you got to understand, too, that, first of all, Dr. Strange is not the leader. Wong is because he was gone for five years. Second of all, so he's a little rusty, Okay. But second of all, I feel like that entire thing you're talking about was going on in the moment. It was developing us. It was going. In other words, it's not like Dr. Strange knew that this fucking kid was going to fuck it up. He started fucking it up once he was already in motion. That could happen to any of us. You could go out there and show your kids or your grandkids or anyone how to build a chair. In the middle of building this chair, the kid starts jumping on the fucking chair. Is that your fault? No. You've already started the problem. It's his fault because that dumbass fucked up the project because he was jumping on the chair. That's the same thing that's going on here. It's like it's not like it's not like Dr. Strange got you know bamboozled by this kid.

He was just trying to help him out. Now I would agree with you that it's a little bit of a stretch due to the professionalism that has been established by Dr. Strange to even go this far. But I think they I think they did a great job in establishing Dr. Strange frustration once he agreed to help him. In other words, there's almost a sense of he almost blames himself, too, because they keep on repeating that over and over. He keeps on going back to the fact that, you know, clean it up or, you know, this, that or the other thing. So I think, I don't, I don't consider that reason to quote unquote hate the movie. Now, what I want to know is why you hate the movie. There's a difference between not liking a movie and hating the movie because I'm thinking is, I'm going to start thinking it's a little more personal.

Yeah, because there's, there's plot holes in everything. That's right. No, no, I think, bottom line, guys, I think, I think. I think this was just a real cheap way to get the three Spider-Man's together. I think if they were really going to open the multiverse, open the fucking multiverse. Have animated Spider-Man. Have Spider-Man. Have Spider-Man. Get them all in there, just like you did.

Why? We already have that movie. Why would I go see that movie again that already exist? I could just go off the rabbit. Why would they just have these three? I don't get it. There's been so many Spider-Man over the- because they were the three live-action Spider-Man.

Yeah, well, if you're all like it, if you're all like me and Ness, you remember the really old school cheesy Spider-Man movie. Oh, yeah. Oh, the one from the 70s? Yeah, and then the old cartoon. I wasn't born. I wasn't born. All right. Wait a minute.

I get all y'all's points. My only problem with it, though, was like the, hey, let's let's let these super dangerous bad guys out that are already dead because. they have some sort of redemption and definitely nobody's going to die from that. It was a pretty dumb fucking decision if you ask me. And it would have stopped the whole movie. But I digress. Again, every movie. Well, I mean, Peter Parker, he is a kid.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. He's young and idealistic and I get it. And I like the fact that he was accountable for his mistake. He paid a dear price for it. And it was in this, what I say call it, this post-87 pacification of a mistake. America, let me pat you on the ass. Good job, kid. It wasn't that. It was like, you fucked up. And these are the consequences that as a man you got to deal with now. And there they are. And it was a good message for everyone, because that's how life works. It's not, oh, I fucked up.

I'm sorry. Let's go back to the way it was. Okay. That's now participation trophies are not given out in this fucking movie. And I like that. So, you know, it was good. I'm not, no, I'm not saying it was perfect. We could go ahead and dismantle this fucking movie 10 ways from Sunday. and we will find weird shit. I have, you know, we're not going to spend a lot of time here, so I'll say one really quick. So you're telling me that it seems to me that Toby's character has been around for 25 years, because the guy looked old as fuck.

Let's be real about it. I mean, to be honest, I think the villains age pretty good and the Spider-Man did not age very well. But what's weird is that. I get the impression that Andrew jumped right after Amazing Spider-Man 2 ends. like when he's fighting rhino because he doesn't have much to share past that point. Yeah.

But Toby, we know he had to live a full life because he brings up MJ the relationship with MJ. And then he also brings, he looks old as fuck. So you can't tell me he literally jumped from the end of Spider-Man 3, the Sam Ramey one. So that was a little weird. Like, I'm wondering, well, what the fuck's going on here? And then, of course, the two, the Sandman and the lizard were completely useless. I don't know if it was just more fan service towards the end. But they were like, you could have had the same movie with.

without them. It was exactly the same movie. And they didn't even die. So that was another plot hole that they didn't answer. They didn't even die in their own movies. And I don't know if you guys noticed this. This is a con job right here because Thomas Hayden Church and Ryan iPhones or whatever the fuck that guy is called. They're not in the credits. They're not in the press.

Oh, man. They wanted to hide it, but that's hiding it too well. They reuse the footage. Well, that's what I'm saying. So they're, yeah. They just did voiceovers. Oh. They're never in the actual movie, not even towards the end when you see them.

That's from Spider-Man 3 and from Amazing Spider-Man 1. And I think it was just easier to use that and try to de-age them on set or whatever. But it was just weird because they don't have any credit even towards the end. So that's their agent's problem, not mine. I just tripped out on that. So, yeah, so I don't know. I don't know, Lance. I don't know what you've been talking or smoking.

Token or smoking. A little bit of everything, man. So, all right. I'm going to go back. I'm going to go back and check it out. So, you know. Did you bring the kids? You know what?

That might have made a huge positive impact if I had, am I right? Well, my daughter was emotional for a couple scenes, so. Well, there's, there's allegedly there's a better copy than the fucking cam version that, uh, that beat MC saw with the fucking guy sneezing every five seconds. So I'll see if I can pull it up here at home over the weekend with the kids. How about that? I wouldn't accept that. But okay.

All right. What else you got, Brian? All right. Let me open this box. I got you in the mail. It's hot for you guys, right? It is. Okay.

Because thank you for whoever. Thank you. Thank you to whoever sent me the Starbucks card. Didn't leave a name. Very nice. Very nice. Check that out. I'll just open

Just over here I hope it's not anthrax or anything like that What the fuck You guys serious right now What is it? An Oculus Quest 2 Can it even open yet?

Oculus Quest I don't think that's I think that's actually from our patrons man Oh I don't think that's Yeah, because Damn, thank you, man.

Thank you. You got to tell everybody thank you, man. I'm telling whoever gave it to me, thank you, because this is probably the fucking nicest thing I've gotten in a long time, man. I'm really trying that not to get emotional on here. Thank you. Thank you. And I think we can use it for some stuff with the podcast.

We'll see how that rolls down the road. Pedro, we just got to get everybody out there onto meta. What could go wrong, right? That's right. That's right. Thank you, everybody. Thank you so much. Listen, if we're all headed into the Matrix anyway, we may as well embrace it.

We'll get to that movie. All right. Moving on. Horror headlines. Brian, what you got, man? Horror headlines. Hold on to me collect myself. Hold on to my Oculus right here.

Hey, I'll bet you get a Spider-Man game on there. Oh, oh, Sony doesn't own Oculus. You may be in trouble. No, I've heard they got some great games on the PlayStation, though. I really want to play them. Yeah. What's the, Phil, you've had the Oculus for a while. What are the best, you said Moss, M-O-S-S is a good one?

It's a fun one. It's a little mouse side-scroller thing, but it's fun. It looks stupid, but it's a lot of fun. Pist away, okay. Horror headlines. We already talked about yellow jackets renewed for a second season, so that's good. This one, this next bit of news, I'm kind of on both sides of this one, the good and bad.

Scott Derrickson's The Black Phone gets pushed all the way back to June 24th from its February release date. Oh, wow. I had a chance to see it too at a film festival here. God damn it. That's the bad. But the good is, I think that shows me they got a lot of faith in this movie, dropping it with the summer movie lineup. Yeah, like a summer blackbuster, right?

Like Spider-Man. I don't think that's a thing anymore, man. The summer season has been dead since Force Awakens back in December of 2015. See, the Force Awakens single-handedly killed the summer blockbuster. I mean, if you notice, now they sprinkle them out throughout the entire year. It's not this summer blockbuster shenanigans. that we grew up with. It's all about just hit them in December,

hit them in April and hit them again in August, and you cover all your quarters. We're in the age of the empire. All right. Let's see. The train to Busan remake, the last train to New York, will drop April 21st.

Hey, I'm all about it because of the director. Timo Tejanto. I'll probably say his name wrong again, but I've liked everything that guy's made. I'm looking forward to it, man. That's one of my most look-forward movies of next year.

I hope Korea keeps bringing it, man. Now, who's got the lead in that movie? Do you know? Who's playing the main guy that we see in the original? The one that has the daughter? Let me look at it up real quick, because I think because of the delay in production, I think somebody might have dropped out.

I heard Will Smith way back in the early days, so I don't know if he had them. That was way back, though, when they were first talking about it. That gets attached to everything. That would be interesting considering the kind of movies that Timo makes. And the fact that he doesn't like to be second banana to anything, I know. Right. Only to his wife.

I hate me second banana. Oh, that's all of us. That's all of us. That was a good one, though. Good comeback. No cast yet. Wow, it is out in April and no cast? What is this? Another Spider-Man movie? What the fuck?

Right, right? I'm not seeing your cast for this. Well, I guess we'll have to wait and see. Keeping it hush, hush. Is there anything else? Danny Elfman is going to score the theme for Tim Burton's Adam's Family Series, title Wednesday. That's coming on Netflix.

Okay, it's a good choice, good choice. Stay relevant. I mean, it's the only choice. He don't work with anyone else. Right. Let's see. I think that might be it. The James 1-Philip produced

Netflix series, Archive 81, gets a January 14th release day. That doesn't mean anything. I have zero equity when I hear that shit nowadays because he signs off on everything. Oh yeah. Addition of Cool Week, we also watched

all three Conjuring movies like back to back to back to back yesterday. Nice. Right, man. They're all good. I don't like the third ones. I rewatched it. It's my least favorite, but it was still, it was still decent.

And I think that's it. All right. Well, you ready for the trailer park, Pedro? Yep. All right. Let's do it, Brian. The big, the small, and the weird.

Oh, yeah. This time we got them all cover, don't we? I believe so. All right, let's start with Robert Eggers' new one, the Northman. Let's see. Synopsis from acclaimed director

Robert Eggers, the Northman is an epic revenge thriller that explores how far a Viking prince will go to seek justice for his murdered father. And this stars Alexander Scarsguard, Anya Taylor,

William Defoe Nicole Kidman Bjork Clay's Bang he was Dracula in that Netflix series Ah I'm not even going to pronounce

this guy's name The Mountain from Game of Thrones Wow And That's a hell of cast Kate Dickie Ralph Inneson Basically if they were in

his movies They're in this movie Pedro What'd you think? It's Robert Eggers. I mean, I'm there whenever I can. I mean, I don't know how this guy's movies make money

because they're not mainstream, but he keeps on getting money to do them, so I'll go with it. Seems like this is kind of like the cast from both the witch and the lighthouse, because he got people from both movies here. And it seems like Alexander Scarsgaard

is kind of like the generic Viking whenever somebody needs a Viking. because he gets a role playing A Viking, so I guess that blood is on his side for this one. Okay. But yeah, no, I mean, I'm looking forward to it. The story seems pretty basic, as opposed to some of the more surreal stuff we've gotten from him in the past.

So I'm all for it, and it seems very visually, you know, titillating, so I'm good. I'm going to be there. Do you think that the trailer is just making it think it's a straightforward story and there's going to be more to it? It's possible, but even the synopsis. I mean, the Northmanic is a revengeer that Explore Safari Viking Prince will go to Seas Justice for his murdered father.

So it's possible, but I think this is going to be one of his most linear films to date. So we'll see, though. Ah, well, I don't know, man. It had a lot of weird elements in it, like maybe even some supernatural stuff and some time jumping. And I'm a sucker for these movies. You know I love anything historical crime, so I love the lighthouse. I'll be there on the front row. I could see the lighthouse every day for the rest of my life.

I mean, that movie is amazing to look at. And you discover something new every time you watch it. You can watch drunken Robert Pattinson, huh? Yes, and Willem Defoe cutting promos as drunk as well on putting curses, Robert Panson. Phil? Yeah, man, it's got a hell of a cast. I'm not the biggest Alexander Scarsgard fan, but every time I see one of his movies, I'm like, oh, he did better than I thought he would.

So. Except when he was a scientist in Godzilla versus Kong. Oh, yeah. I don't buy that guy as a scientist. Totally forgot about that. That was bad casting right there. Yeah. Wasn't he Tarzan, too?

Yeah, he was Tarzan. And I didn't hate Tarzan. It was goofy, but, you know. Everybody knows it should have been Denise Richards as a scientist. Am I right? Just put glasses on her, and she's a, A genius. Is her name?

Professor Christmas or something? Yeah. That's right. Yeah. Christmas only comes once a year. Jesus Christ. Yeah, I'm in. I'm in it.

I like both his movies that came out. The cast looks phenomenal and it's a Viking revenge film. I mean, what more do you want? And hopefully there'll be more to the story when we watch it. Yeah, I hope they've got like some, like ancient Nord mythology stuff going on. Like I want to see that.

And Ethan Hawk is a Viking king. I mean, come on. Yeah, sure. Maybe that's why they push Blackbone back, right? Let's see. Expected release date April 22nd. Let's see. Let's get to the weird.

A bearable weight of massive talent starring none other than Nicholas Cage. I understand. A meta movie, which I don't like most of the time because they come off as very pretentious. So here's a deal with Nicholas Cage. He was only charming when he wasn't self-aware of being Nicholas Cage.

Now that he's self-aware of being Nicholas Cage, it's kind of being pushed down our throat, and now he's gone full circle and bordering on annoying now. So it's like, I don't know. Now, this movie's weird to me because this fucking cast It's a multi-million-dollar cast. And I know this movie ain't going to get no theatrical exhibition. So I don't know if it was the mob trying to clean up some money or some investors that won the lottery.

But this movie's going right to VOD with this pretty goddamn good cast. And that threw me off there for a minute. Yeah. I mean, Pascal's on demand right now. People want to book him left and right. And he's built second from the top in this movie. We got Neil Patrick Harris, Tiffany Haddish. Yeah.

I mean, good cast. So. Real quick synopsis, for those who don't know what we're talking about, a cash strap, Nicholas Cage agrees to make a paid appearance at a billionaire superfan's birthday party, but is really an informant for the CIA since the billionaire fan is a drug kingpin. Oh, boy. And it gets cast in a Tarantino movie.

And the synopsis doesn't really want to make me watch. you now. I was more intrigued by the trailer. Yeah, because it this really sounds like that Van Damme Amazon series. Yes, and it also sounds like my name is Bruce Campbell all over again. Yeah, too suspiciously like it, right? Hey, that Van Damme Amazon series wasn't bad. I didn't finish it, but the first few episodes were gold. Yeah, no, it was good. It was good. I mean, we're all going to watch it, right? Probably with Beat and Marcy. Yeah. I already felt them when Pedro gave his thoughts on the movie.

Yeah, I know. Disturbance in the Nicholas Cage for us. Yeah. The Cage averse. So, uh, same release date as the Northman expected April 22nd. All right. I'm more excited about this one. Really?

Yeah, dude. I think this is going to be a cult classic. It's going to be hilarious in a way that's not normal. and I like that. Yeah. I was a little put off by the fact that, like, Nicholas Cage is playing himself, but you've got all this super, super, super,

highly recognizable actors that are all playing, like, characters in a movie. And I was like, something just doesn't quite mesh. It was going over the wall scene that got me. That was funny. I was like, oh, this movie's going to be great. All right.

All right. on to our final trailer, a new A-24 film titled Everything Everywhere All at Once. Synopsis goes, an aging Chinese immigrant that swept up in an insane adventure where she alone can save the world by exploring other universes connecting with the lives she could have led. This stars Michelle Yao, Jamie Lee Curtis, and James Hong. got to get him in there and a bunch of other people

that's what sold me when I saw James hung in there pop out for a millisecond I mean you know another one of it seems like it's another one of those meta films that seem to be very popular right now one of the things that pissed me off right off the bat is when it said directed

by Daniels and that's just part of this new trend that that's really annoying where all these fucking filmmakers give themselves a wacky fucking nickname just tell us who you the fuck you are. Like, like, the other day I was watching Hot Guy and it said bird and birdie. Like, what the fuck is a bird and birdie? What fuck is that? Yeah, I was, I saw that too. Or fucking

McGee started this whole fucking mess, to be honest. Yeah, that's right. Blame Chuck, right? Yeah, so, uh, so, and look at where his career ended up. So beware, are you filmmakers who want to give you guys fancy, wacky names? Just tell us who the fuck you are, man. They want to be DJs. Exactly. You're right. You're right. Okay. Yeah, Daniels. And I, and I, and I, and I, And I guess it's because there's two guys that are called Daniel. Woo-hoo! So, no, no, but it looks like a good time. It's not reinventing the we or nothing.

It really seems like it comes off like one of those crank movies, you know? Just non-stop action, multi-realities, multiverse bullshit. That seems to be the norm nowadays. So, yeah. And Michelle Yo, I mean, I've been a fan of hers for years and years. She looks a little older than I would imagine her in this movie. but that's okay. That's okay because she's a legend. And so I'm going to see it as well.

This is probably the one. No, I'm looking forward to the Northman Moore and then this one. And then the Nicholas Cage one. Well, you can watch this one first because this one is due April 1st. Oh, April 1st. April 1st. On April Fool's Day. Yeah. Me personally, it's got Michelle Yao.

Yeah, you're in. That's it. All right. Well, and it's 824. So, you know, you know. what's at least going to be interesting. Yeah, but not other movies are interesting. I have a couple on my bottom 10 this year that were 8-20.

Oh, good segue. Brian, Brian, you're our man when it comes to setting up these top and bottom 10 and 20 or whatever. So how are we going to do this tonight? Wait, wait, wait, real quick. I also want to say, you ever notice, when you said that there's this multiverse thing is the norm now? Right. Maybe they're setting us up for something, man. Shit, it's real.

I wouldn't doubt it. Things have gone pretty bonkers since 2012. I'm just saying. So in another universe, Lance like Spider-Man. In all other universes, Lance likes Spider-Man. This is the anomaly. This is the one where he doesn't like Spider-Man. This is the darkest timeline.

All right. Pedro, if you want to give us your list now, Yes, I'll just go, I'll just go bottom 10 and then top 10. So I don't have a lot of honorable mentions. So, all right. So for my, for my bottom 10, the number, now, let me say this. So this was a good year for movies. There was then a movie that outright pissed me the fuck off.

Not one, and that's amazing. So the bottom 10 is more like movies that are probably never watch again. There's still a respect factor that I'm going to hang in there with these, oh, with these bottom 10. So the first one is Army of the Dead. I thought about top ten. Yes. But remember, now, I don't hate it.

It's just, I was made it. Another thing, too, with these films, and I'm sure you guys will agree with me, is the level of expectations that we have going into them. So if we have a lot of higher expectations and they don't live up to them, they tend to stay with us longer. So that's kind of the reason. But it was in a bad movie. It was just, to me, like, that movie was very, very bloated. it was almost three hours. And for me not to give a fuck about anybody on the cast at the end of that movie, that says a lot.

Something got fucked up there. Like, there was a lot of characters in that movie that were not developed at all with the time that they got to tell us the story. And that was one of the things that I was like, come on, bro. I mean, you know, you have three hours here. So Army of the Dead. And then Batista, I mean, I don't know, man. He's going to have to stick to those James Bond, you know, silent killer type of characters, man. Because I don't know if he could handle getting that meat on that bone.

and then, you know, trying to chew it off because he really can't do it that good. Subal killer. Do another stuber movie. There you go. That one wasn't fair as bad as I thought it was going to be. My number nine would be the Conjuring Three. Now, this is a movie that didn't even follow its own logic

in the third act of the movie. It completely fell off the rails. Shit didn't make no sense and didn't even try to explain it. I thought I was going to get Amityville the story, which maybe it's my fault. I'll take the blame for that one. But they didn't give me that. They gave me this wacky thing where it doesn't even match up with the previous conjurings.

It was just, I feel like that was a script that was lying around and James once saw it. It was like, hey, go make this movie. And then, you know, just write down the conjuring three on it. And that's what we got. So there you go. Number eight is a movie that I came on here because Lans really upset me with this one. Uh-oh. And I'm talking about old.

Now, I'm not going to get into old too much because there is a show. There is an entire episode that's in the archives. If you guys want to go back to that episode, you guys could see or listen to my rant on this movie. But again, this is another movie where you tell yourself, does M. Night Shyamalala Ding Don't have too much money now? Does he, is he entertaining like three people and nobody else? Like, what is the point of this movie?

And so that was weird. Shit, I need some more coat. We've got to make a movie. Could very well be. You know, somehow he's going to stretch out that television show. has to six seasons. He said it himself. That's what he's trying to do. Yeah. That's what he's trying to do.

Yeah, they're about to go into the third season right now. Yeah, they already green-litted four-fourth season, so he's... He's almost there. Yeah. I remember when he first came up with that show, we were probably like five episodes in, and it was a good show. It was picking up Steam where like, M-N-N-Shama-Li-N-Ding-dong is back, this is that or the other thing. And then when the show ended, we're like, there's no fucking way this that could keep it up for four more seasons. There's a story that was told, and it's over.

And sharing of the second season premiere, and who were right, there's no way he could keep this shit up going for no more than one more season tops, because it was a rerouting of the entire story. I'm totally with you on that. Second season way disappointed me. I don't think he intended to have one. No, he wanted six seasons. Yeah, he said that from the beginning, Philip. What the fuck, man.

Yeah. Yep. So anyways, you got four more to wait for there. So if you're a fan of old, you might want to watch that television to show as well. The next one, number seven, I believe, yes, the Seance. That was the fucking horrible movie. Oh, I never got around to that one. I didn't see it either.

Yeah, check it out. Yeah, it just had no heart. It had no heart. And it was just one of those movies that was just a cash in for like to put on a channel or something. Kind of kind of feed by the numbers. They're like the school girls or something, sorority girls. Yeah, yeah. Okay, I've seen that one.

And also the... It probably... My list when I get to is going to be similar to Pedro's because I didn't hate a lot of movies, so it's probably going to be movies that I probably never were going to watch again. So it's pretty close to being on that list, but I forgot about that movie.

One of those you forget about, yeah. And the thing about that movie was... Oh, it's okay. The thing about that movie is that it was directed by Simon Barrett. who's pretty dialed in into the horror community, right? He knows what's up. And he did this press store where he was putting this movie over big time. Oh, it's a great film, this and that.

And then you watch it. And it's like a run-of-the-mill film. Like, dude, give me something more with all that hype that you put behind it, you know? But it was just a basic movie with little to no heart, which is surprising because it's coming from him. And he's a very passionate guy. And I was very disappointed. So then the next one is paranormal activity. the next of kin.

I didn't like that. I haven't seen that one either. No, it was just, again, another. Remember if I watched that or not? Just fast-forwarded to the last 15 minutes. There you go. That's a great part right there. Okay.

Again, another movie where they break their own rules. They don't know what the fuck they're doing. And it was just a big disappointment. Speaking of disappointment, my next one is a movie called Hypnotic. Did you guys watch this one? Yeah, with, what's his name's wife from Hush? Yes, something Segal, right? Yeah, Katie.

Katie, isn't that Peggy Bundy? Yeah, maybe. I'm way behind, guys. I haven't seen this one either. Katie Segal. There you go. Well, don't see it, Lance. Steve and you're not missing.

All right. That guy's, you made that guy's day. He brought his name up. Yeah. I'm sure he's listening. Yes. It's a Netflix movie, Lance. The show is terrible.

I saw it on it. It's in my cue. I've just never, never watched it. You don't need to. What directed that movie? Hypnotic? Let me look at it up. Stephen's a gall.

No, I wish. It's got every martial art known to man. I know them all. Hypnotic was directed by Matt Angel, whoever. Okay. Matt Angel, respect to you, Matt Angel, but I don't know. Whatever. No idea.

Oh, God. He did the open house also on Netflix. Yeah. The next one on my list is that there's someone inside your house, which is a movie that came out on Netflix. Another Netflix. Yes, yes. I mean, once they started just allowing everybody into that Netflix family, man,

they really just opened the floodgates to shit. That's what they did. You know, but this one just, this is one of those movies that I hate, not because it's bad, but because it's boring. And sometimes being boring is worse than being bad. So it just meanders and it doesn't go anywhere and it just stayed with me. And I was like, fuck this movie. All right.

The next one is the wrong turn remake. Do you guys remember the wrong turn remake? You didn't like that one? No, man, it was about four different stories going on at the same time. It's like, I didn't hate it. It was okay. I mean, again, again, this is a different list this year. But it was just very, I don't know, it was, it didn't have a route.

I didn't have a destination. Yeah. And then the dad is the sheriff, but then he's also in the wilderness. Another one of those movies that just fell apart. And also I had high expectations because this is another movie that they did the press junkets and were putting it over big time. A movie that I found incredibly boring, but it wasn't bad, but it was so boring that I just had to put it on here because I had high expectations was the banishing. Did you guys get to watch that one? Shutter movie, right?

I believe so, yeah. Yeah, I think I've seen it. Yeah. Tell us about, I think I've seen it, but I forgot it. I think it vanished on me. With a B, you know, not with the banishing. No, I haven't seen this at all. It's just one of those movies again, like these generic

haunted house movies that don't really add too much. And it's like just fast forward to the last 50 minutes and you get all your answers. So anyways, that's that. And then, so I'm into my number one. Now, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight. Yes, number one. Now, this movie, we talked a little bit of when I was on the show, but it was a complete piece of shit when I watched it.

It was boring. It was nothing happened. And I'm talking about the lamb. Do you guys ever got around to watching it? I saw the theater. No. I mean, how much you could fast forward this movie. I really.

And watch possibly what? About 30 minutes of it. And you'll get the entire story. Because there was some of, some of the, See nothing happened. It can't be on my bottom 10, though, dude. It was more just a man. Man.

That's what I'm saying. To say 24, sometimes they get pretentious on us. Because this was like, I mean, you, I would have scenes where I'm watching it, and it was like, people just walking, doing everyday things. And I'm like, come. Yeah, it was boring, boring AF, man, no doubt. I mean, I get the message of it. And I like the ending.

But do you? Do you get the message? I don't know if I got the message, dude. I'm not 100% sure. Is it that beastiality? Or? So, I don't know, man. We're trying to normalize it. It's called animal attracted persons. I know that you're coming from. I know whatever this person, I think it was, was it a female? I don't know who directed this, but they found, they found beautiful locations. I get it. But geez. Oh, yeah. Iceland, right? Was it Iceland or great? But that's all the story was. It was just these visuals of fucking Iceland over and over. I'd rather just watch my screensaver for an hour.

And I'll get the same fucking visuals, man. Well, that's the problem with A24. Sometimes they go a little more over, like on visuals more than story and stuff. It's a lot. They have a lot of movies that are so quiet and chill that you fall asleep during them. Yeah, but even in those movies, again, you're working like, like you're trying to be abstract, right? There's a message that you're trying to convey after. all, it is a story. But I'm thinking, what the fuck's going on here? Like, what's going on?

And then that ending, I was like, what the fuck? That's the kind of movie where I wouldn't want to watch it with an audience because you feel how disappointed everyone is around you, and I always get uncomfortable being in that situation. Lance, was there a lot of people when you saw this in the movies? No. No, I had to drive pretty far, pretty far to see it. There's only one theater around here that does art house stuff. And I think there were two other people in there, Which is good, you know. I love having an empty movie theater, but I'm with you, man. It was super disappointing.

I was expecting something great, and I didn't get it. Yeah, so anyways, so that's that. So that's my bottom 10. Okay, now I'm going to get to my top 10. First, I'm going to give you some honorable mentions. I really enjoy Lucky, which is on Shutter. I thought that was a good film. I really love Wally Wonderland.

Just Wacky Nicholas. That's wacky Nicholas Cage. Yeah. He doesn't say one word in the entire movie, and I love him for it. That's an amazing fucking movie. It's nothing but action sequences and just the story is so surreal, but it works, and I loved it. Okay. The Vigil.

I know, I know Brian had problems with the Vigil because it's a demon, whatever, and he doesn't like demon shit. But I liked it just because it was different, and the character got his comeuppance at the end, where you're kind of rooting for him, you know, in the beginning or whatever. I thought it was a pretty clever movie. So then let's see. Could I put Suicide Squad in here? I know it's... Do whatever you want.

Okay, so that's going to be an honorable mention. Because I really enjoyed that movie a lot. Yeah, I was a good one. Like, really, really, like, to me... That was fun. Like, James Gunn put something on screen that shouldn't have never been on screen in a mainstream format.

How he did it? I'll never know. But the fact that he's got like a kaiju, star-shaped monster, and you know, It's a great fucking movie And it has good character development This is the opposite of Army of the Dead

Right here where you get around the same amount of runtime But he gets all his characters over with the people Which is what you want So I really enjoy that one Was that one as long as Army of the Dead? Probably but no I was setting That one was two hours and 16 minutes The Army of the Dead was like 237 or some shit

It was a bloated mess Is what a fuss Yeah no that suicide squad was great Yeah Then I'm gonna go with let's see here. Sador, did you guys ever watch Sador? I need to rewatch it.

I was a little green when I watched it. I might have got a little bored. Very slow. Yeah, I got through about half of it, and I was like, I'm not food for this right now. Okay, so here's the thing about Sador. Now, people might be saying, why is you talking about Sato and then he just buries the lamb?

Sater? They both have lambs or what? No, no, no. Sador is, it was a definitely. definition of somebody showing me dread on screen because the movie's very there's an aura of dread throughout and it's not a very long movie it's like 70 minutes or something but it's it takes place in the woods and you get that kind of like when you get in the witch where you know people have communities there but there's also something going on beyond the woods that's kind that's kind of how

this movie works as well and it's just that creepy factor like you don't really see horror movies like this no more because everybody wants to jump scare but this is more ambience right and then you're just unsettling feeling throughout the entire movie. And it just stayed with me, man. So anyways, now I'm going to start my list. So number 10 is going to be the nighthouse. I love this fucking movie a lot. I need this have been on your list.

Oh, I loved it because it has a metaphor for depression. It has a metaphor suicidal ideation. And this entire film is about the grieving process that somebody goes through. And the demons that they have to encounter while they're walking that edge. And if they themselves are not in a good place, those demons will win because all we need is tragedy to kind of push us over the edge. And I thought the way it was shot and revealed as the movies going on, it was phenomenal. And I really, really enjoyed this movie. I got to see it in the theater.

So that was, yeah, it was a great movie. Then I have Candyman. I love this movie, a lot. I like the fact that they didn't tell us it was a direct sequel, which I really got excited for because they don't do direct sequels anymore. Everything's a remake. this is that or the other thing. So this is a direct sequel to the original. And I even think, now don't quote me on this

because I don't really remember, but I think it's a sequel to all three previous ones because they do mention a little bit about the Day of the Dead one and part two as well. At least it's not in the multiverse, you know? No, it's not. Thank God. Because everything else is now, too. So there's one of my favorite kills of the year.

Now, you guys saw this movie, right? Of course. In the theater. Did you guys, do you guys remember the kill scene by the window where the girl That was amazing. That was a great fucking scene. Yeah, no, very, very good movie. People need to check it out.

Then we have malignant. Love malignant. Yeah, it was a good one. It was fun. It was fun. I don't know if Malignan is going to age well as the years go on because it gets way too wacky for me in the third act. And especially that police station scene, like,

I don't care who you are. You cannot justify that station scene, right? it's fun to watch. It is fun to watch. And there's so many things that don't add up, even taking the universe to establish into consideration. But whatever, we'll go with it because it built enough equity before that for us to accept that scene.

Fine. But I thought the reveal, which really went viral, I think, the reveal of malignant, which they found a way to keep it secret for a long time, was great. I think it works for the movie.

And it was just James Juan saying, I have money, I have credibility, I'm going to do whatever the fuck I want. even though it's not mainstream acceptable, and he did this great movie. So good for him. Then we have a movie that I really like this year called Jacob's Wife. Did you guys watch this one?

Yes. I really loved it. I thought Barbara Crampton was fantastic. I thought, again, the message in that movie about gender roles and whatnot and suppressing females and all that stuff was really, really well-established. I really like the journey that we take with her because it's really just a few days. but they were able to really show a lot of character development in those few days. And it's just one of those movies that, you know, when you see it on paper, you're thinking it's not very original. Because we've all seen the person gets bitten by the vampire and then they're kind of like fish out of water.

They don't know what's going on. But here it was that other layer of the whole gender role thing that really put it over the top with me that I respected it for. So it was really, really good. I forgot about that one. That was a good one. Yes. Let's see. Oh, so then we have my number five.

I included all three movies, but the Technicati, the Fear Street series. Yeah. Did you guys enjoy those? Yeah. I kind of was a little leery on the third one, but I think all as a whole, I enjoyed it. That first one was the best.

Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I mean, I love a couple of things about this trilogy. First of all, I like how it builds on the previous movie, which I thought it was phenomenal. Second of all, I love how it uses our own expectations against what happens on screen, which you really see in the third movie. And so I thought there was an air of originality while still staying true to like the basic fundamental laws of these kind of movies. And the soundtrack was amazing, but I'm biased because that's from my generation.

So, you know, really like this, these three movies are a good time. And it's three movies that I'm going to have on my rotation going forward for the Halloween season. Now, this movie really knocked my socks off. This is a movie where if you have no money, you could make something awesome, which again proves my point against shit like Resident Evil. And that's the movie called We Need to Do Something. Did you guys see this movie? Yeah.

Yeah, we reviewed it. One of the scariest movies, this is another movie that works on the family dynamics metaphor, right, and the dysfunctional family. And it's an incredible fucking movie. I love these movies. When it ends, you're still thinking. about them and you're thinking what was real and what wasn't real. You know,

haunting, right? Yes. And so that was a great movie. And again, what could you do with little money? Well, there you go. That's a good example right there. So I don't want to hear any excuses. Number three was Antlers. Another movie that came down by HMIC. What a great

fucking movie that was. And again, it breaks my heart that a lot of these movies don't do a lot in the box office, but as the world we live in now. Great movie. Jesse Plyman's He's in everything now But he was That Damon

Yeah Number two I guess it would be my only horror comedy Of the lot Because I'm not really into these kind of movies But I thought this one was good And that's the werewolf within I thought it was fun

A lot of love for this movie Yeah Did you ever watch it Lance I did I did I don't know if I loved it quite as much as you did But it was a fun movie Especially when you find out

Who The Killer was Because I didn't see that coming That's right Yes, right. And I guess the title kind of reveals it at the end of the day. But yeah, when you when you think back to it, it's a good reveal. And it was just fun. The characters were over. It was a good story. And it was my one slot for the horror comedy. Because like I said, I'm not really into those kind of movies. Even though they see. The 18T girl, right? Yeah. That's right. That's right. And of course, my number one, and this is a movie that I saw three times in the theater because it was a visual spectacle and it was a good story. And that was last night in Soho. That movie was, I really, really loved that movie. I thought, again, this is one of those movies where Edgar Wright didn't really say a lot about this movie either. If you guys remember, it was just a movie that was coming out.

And, you know, I know it sounds cliche, but it's better when we go into movies not knowing very much about them because then the ride, it's even sweeter that way. And this is what I got with this movie. As the layers are peeling, as you're watching it, you're like, oh, shit, that's pretty interesting. And the visuals that he's established in that movie are great, the time that it was shot in. It was a good fucking movie. So that's my top 10, bottom 10 of the year. All right. I'm looking forward to you guys next week, right?

Yeah. Yeah, for sure. Ness is going to have Resident Evil number one, I think. I think so, man. I think so. Either that or Spider-Man. You never know with Ness, man. his but you know what he's stick he he he he has his own opinion and he sticks to it and i love it

i respect that i respect that a lot definitely all right well let's roll on to uh listener feedback uh we'll keep it short uh this week for the podcast spotlight we do a double take for the end of the year uh first we shine the spotlight on binge media binge cast is the official podcast of binge media.net. Hosted by Jim Law and Moreno. The boys offer drunken thoughts and insights into film, TV, books, comics, music, and sports world.

Bring a case of beer or a bottle of scotch and listen every week as new episodes drops. Those are the only options, beer or scotch. We promised never to say drops again. Because it's like a mixtape.

It's too fire. And we also can't forget the spotlight. The League of Geeks. Every week, the League of Geeks with a Z, brings you the latest and geekiest news in the movies, TVs, and comic books. By all means, we are not experts, but we do know our stuff. And the goal is to cover stories and review movies from our own view that will inform and appeal to you, the movie or TV viewer, and the geek.

So sit back and enjoy. the ride because where we're going, we don't need roads. Email us at info at the league of geeks.com. And Steve message me. He did not agree with Lance on his Spider-Man. I don't think anybody does. Check the both out everywhere podcast found. Let's see.

Regarding our commentary for Santa Jaws, Zim Vader says this is so much better than the actual movie. Well, thank you. Nez gave it an 8 out of 10. It did. Okay. Stephen Lobelhead says, you fuckers are going to make me watch this. Ricky Morkin is rocking his Santa Jaws shirt. I know they had one, but that sounds... That is, yes. I'm glad that there's actually one around that Santa, yes.

Danny Bennett says, I'm ahead of my time, probably about 15 minutes, Ed. Let's see, Matt Jones Ian McFadden says we need to watch this epic. Boz-Bosier-Lawn says, I shamefully didn't hate it. Are we still talking about Santa Jones?

Yeah, Sanchez. We turn it into a thing somehow. Regarding Resident Evil, here we go. Kate Pollock says I had so much fun, and clearly they're for the fans of the game. What did you think?

Well, we've heard that. Brian, what did you think, Brian? I forgot what I said. Okay. I think he said it was just run of the mill kind of horror shoot him up. Yeah, I think pretty much that's...

Shitty CGI is what I got. Yeah, it's so bad. It's so bad. But it's just weird because, like you see the, like I said, the practical effects on people infected, And I was like, that looks pretty good. And then you cut to this fucking CGI dog that clearly they're not looking at.

I don't know why people keep on making these movies because video games are so sophisticated now that all you got to do is play the game and that's your movie. Like you don't need a movie about the game anymore. It's only going to come off as a cheap copy because video games are way too sophisticated now. Well, it's no house of the dead. But, you know. Then it's a dig up your bowl wherever he's. adding have him do the next resident evil movie oh geez you just spoke it and it's going to happen now oh god what have we done uh that's it for listener oh no we'll uh we have an email from darren wilson

uh i keep meaning to tell everyone besides lance that the website is rad thank you i'm getting i'm getting pushed out of everything he must be a spider man fan too huh well lance is the one that made I also meant to say when listening to the Grimlins' Crampus episode, to those that said they hadn't played them yet, the Spider-Man video games are a ton of fun. Hey, there you go. I've heard great things. And we have a crampus parade here in Columbus, too, but one of our neighborhoods in south downtown is even called German Village. I think around the time of the Civil War, a third of Columbus was German. So there's that.

Oh, okay. Escape to Nazis. Speaking of which, God damn fucking dog, can they not control that dog out there? Speaking of which, just real quick aside, I've been watching Westworld, finally got around to the next season. They even managed to sneak Nazis into Westworld for fuck sake. They've got a war world. There you have Zinnazis, Zezer evil Nazis.

Why would you want to go back there? I don't get it. I would not spend my vacation there. That sounds miserable. Hide in a room. That's pretty much what they do. I just hide in a room. Hide from the fucking Nazis questioning all the villagers, you know?

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Look at Brian got a fucking Oculus man You have a lot I don't really do man I don't think that was for a review, though. So. Yeah. And now let's move on to our big show, featured attraction. This week we're going to go back into the Matrix with the Matrix Resurrections.

Return to a world of two realities. One, everyday life, the other what lies behind it. To find out if his reality is a construct to truly know himself, Mr. Anderson will have to choose to follow the White Rabbit once more. Director is Lana Wachowski, also known for Bound and Cloud Atlas and Patriot stuff. Writers, Lana Wachowski, and David Mitchell and Alexander Heiman, who also worked with Lana on the Netflix series Since 8. That one wasn't bad, right? I think it wasn't bad, but it wasn't good.

It's just one of those that just was. Hugo Weaving was originally approached to reprise his role as Agent Smith, which definitely should have happened. But he had to turn it down due to scheduling conflicts with other films. Under the code name Project Ice Cream, the film began production in San Francisco on February 4th, 2020. That's when the world was shut down. still lives in a lot of places. I know, especially San Francisco. Definitely.

All right, Pedro, what did you think about the Matrix Resurrections? I mean, that's a very heavy question, because there's two ways to look at this. As a fan of movies, I think this fucking movie was completely unnecessary. Completely unnecessary. As a fan of the Matrix, because I already know they're hounding, and they're like, what do you mean? Listen, it's always good to go back to the character. characters we love. And if we're going to do bullshit, we're going to take that bullshit because

that bullshit is going to come with our favorite characters. Yes, you could always, now, we're not spoilers yet, right? No, no, definitely not yet. Okay, good. Okay. So, uh, this is, this movie is, it's kind of like, uh, I think this has been out there. It's a soft reset to like the previous movies. And to me, it's like, it's completely unnecessary. And, first of the, of all, they couldn't get Keanu to get rid of his John Wick fucking haircut. He was filming that same time.

They had to put up with that shit, which was weird. But that is on the poster. But yeah, no, I just, there was no characters that intrigue me because, man, you think of the old ones, the original ones, you think of the original agent Smith, you think of those two twins on the freeway, you think of the wacky French guy that would talk all that shit. I mean, it was great characters, right?

There were characters that not so much relatable, but just wacky and for a movie of this scope were good characters. I can't think, I just watched this movie like a week ago. I cannot think of one new character to me that stood out in this movie. Not one, not one, you know? Well, there was one, at least. I mean, I'm talking about the newer characters. Is that what you referred?

Okay, well, we'll get to it in the spoiler segment. That one, gee. Okay, I tell you, okay. So, so, um, so, so, again, and it's also a movie that, you know, like, like these kind of movies tend to be once you're dealing with different realities and different worlds and multiverses. There we go with that word again. You have to watch it a second or third time, but if they don't give you enough the first time, I'm going back to this movie. I'm done.

So this is, this movie relied on grabbing me while they had me and they didn't, so I'm out. And that's it. That's what I got to say about it until we get to the spoiler section. Do I get my rating or we do that at the end? I will do it at the end. Okay. Lance, what did you think? Oh, my God.

Pedro, I think you and I were in The Matrix, dude, because you've literally, word for word, just said exactly what I was going to say. This movie has no heart, no soul, no substance. That's right. It looks good. It's a return back. I call it Project Cash Grab, and I hate to say it.

Yeah. But I've got douche chills from this movie, which fucking sucks because I really wanted to love this movie. I'll tell you what, I think I might have enjoyed Spider-Man more. So, there you have it. There you go. The baby face turn for Lance right here. I'm just going to say this. It was kind of good.

man it was kind of good seeing our characters again but not really it's I don't know the more I think about it this this one kind of just kind of took a dump on the original matrix and I know a lot of

there's a lot of hate out there for two and even more hate for part three but I love part two I love part two. Part two was great I love the part with what was it Agent Smith with all the multiple

the like what was that when piano turned into a cartoon character yeah yeah I kind of I kind of enjoyed that actually um

oh that I think that I think that freeway scene you could still put it up against a lot of newer scenes and it still holds up that freeway scene is amazing I think yeah it definitely is classic

any scene where Monica Balucci is good too also yeah I was actually a big fan of the Netflix series Since 8 that Atlanta did. And that's the thing. There were probably about six or seven characters from Since 8 that showed up in here. So it almost kind of felt like they all got together and said,

hey, we worked well in this TV show. Netflix canceled us early. Let's make a movie. Wait a minute. You mean actors, not characters. Yeah, I'm sorry, actors. You're exactly. Actors playing different characters.

going to get more complicated than it needs to be. Yeah, let's not do that. Let's not go down that rabbit hole. But yeah, you got Trinity back, you got Neo back. It definitely threw me off when you changed a couple of characters, and then you've got one character that they, at one part they said was an amalgamation of two characters, but it only acted like the one character. And I'm like, that makes no fucking sense. again, I'm just, it's not a bottom 10 because I loved it.

It was some, it was some nice eye candy. It was good to get back into that world. But, man, this is not what I was hoping for. It really was not what I was hoping for. Well, I'm happy that you said that because that means that Spider-Man is not also not going to be in your bottom 10, which makes me very happy. It's not. It's not. Good.

I thought he would, Pedro, I thought he was going to big show us. I thought you're going to go flip right back to heel. All right, Brian. What did you think? Okay. Did we need this movie? No. Right.

Did I enjoy it? Kind of. I mean, there was things to enjoy about it. It was good to see Neo and Trinity back, but I kind of wish that they focus more on newer characters instead of, you know, basically rehashing the same thing they did in the original ones except put the focus on... I won't spoil it.

No, yeah, we get it. I kind of did like the explanation from Morpheus. It kind of made sense to why you had a different actor. Okay. I did not like the Agent Smith guy. I didn't like that at all. I did like Jessica Henwick as bugs. I thought she was pretty badass in it.

I thought that was a welcome new character in it. And I wanted more of her. I wanted her to be the kind of the lead of the movie. But can't have that when you got Carrie Ann Moss and Keanu Reeves. I like Neil Patrick Harris in it. I thought the effects were better than the two and three, because I felt like after one, two and three kind of took a step down with the effects. Trying to be very positive about this movie.

I don't know. If we weren't reviewing it, I honestly, the more I was hearing about it, the more I didn't want to watch it. And it just felt like I watched this movie on a Wednesday. And I had nothing to do. Not even Lindy Wukowski wanted it to do with this movie. That says a lot right there.

Yeah. Yeah. It should have been more of an event, right? Yeah, but also I, I think the Spider-Man, as far as that's concerned, I think the Spider-Man hype really hurt the Matrix hype. You think so? Yeah, definitely. I think, and also the fact that the Matrix was going to be available on HBO Max, I think that affected the box office.

But because I think when the first trailer dropped, people were excited. I mean, I remember that. Like, people were very excited for that first trailer. But as the weeks went on, people started getting more excited for Spider-Man, and they were just a week apart. So, you know, that was that. Make no mistake. I mean, Dune was also. premiered on HBO Max

and a lot of people are excited for the the second movie of that. Yeah, but Dune was a great movie. Yeah, and Spider-Man didn't come out a week before Dune. That's right. I think I would have I would have enjoyed this more if it was going to go down like they planned

before the pandemic because we were supposed to get this and John Wick for dropping in the same day. I think I would have had a great time at the theater watching both of these Kiano Marathon. Yeah. I mean, that's a bad business, but I guess

they were going to do it anyway. Yeah, which probably should have said in the news. John Wick got delayed a year. Of course. Way more than a year. It's 2023 now. So it's like a year and a half. That's a long time. And it's not.

That makes sense. What? Why would they push it that far back? What's the rationale for that? What's with the Ometron or the Omarion? What is it? Omicron. Yeah.

I think they had to shut down. Dude, this, I don't want to get into it. I feel very positive about the direction we're going. I think, I'll just say, I think any good virus knows that you don't kill your host if you want to keep replicating. But we'll stop it at that. I don't want to get political or. even a whiff of politicism, but I feel

relatively optimistic right now. Amachronistic. Some Omicron parties. Let's go. I'm not ready to go that far. Yeah, I enjoyed it for what it was. Was it needed?

No. Was it anywhere close to as good the first Matrix, well, that's a high bar to hit. Right, right.

I mean, it's one of my favorite movies of all time. So I, and I'm not a giant fan of the second and third one. They get kind of off

in the weeds a little. I may need to rewatch them. Yeah, they never, they never planned for the sequels. They didn't know what they had when they had dropped that first one. Well,

because the first one was a good story in and of itself. It ended great, and they should have just left it alone, you know? But I, I, again, though, I enjoyed it for what it was. I probably didn't hate it as much as most people did. I thought the fight scenes were kind of weak.

So there's that kind of screws it up. But I like the mind fuck aspect of it and the whole Matrix thing, although obviously it's already been done. So, yeah, they're sort of just rehashing. it was a money grab. It was a lot of fan service. And it didn't hit as well as I think they would have liked it too.

All right. Let's do scores. Pedro, what do you think? I'm going to go six on ten. Nah, not too bad. Not too bad. Yeah, I mean, it was a spectacle. I enjoyed it, but I'll never watch it again. Yeah.

It's completely unnecessary. So I can't say that I wasted my time watching it because they gave me enough to our. Okay, good time invested. but that's about all it's going to get. So six on ten for me. Lance? Guys, I got to go four on ten.

Ouch. No, I mean, that's not a bad score. I mean, think about it. That's almost half good. It's just not quite... I don't know about that. Not quite there. I mean, I just...

Some of that is probably disappointment because I built myself up for something that I didn't get story-wise. Yeah, true. sorry I mean it is what it is a lot of rehashing of the first movie just from a different perspective so you know think a little bit more outside the box guys I mean you got a whole fucking I hate to say it multiverse to play with here you know multiverse I think we could have gotten something a little bit more you know a little more original and and yes I think they should have focused more on the new characters than they did so yeah four on ten Brian? I'm gonna go six and a half.

Damn! I thought... I didn't love it. I probably never watch it again. It don't seem like I really need to. I thought the effects were updated. I like majority of the cast. But I just now thinking about it, I wish they would have just gave us more of

what was outside the Matrix. You know, what was going on? You know, we get more information on what they were building in the real world and stuff that was going on there. We, you know, why not get a movie of that? Like what the robots were building and shit? Or the... Yeah, the explanation. We'll get to it in the spoilers.

Is this making any money? Because if so, I guarantee you we're going to get two more Star Wars style. It made 69 million, I think, as of today, as of this recording. I wonder how much it costs to make. I read one of the Wachowski, what was Atlanta that did this? Yeah. Has no plans in doing another one. Until that fucking coin starts hitting.

I think if they do another one, get somebody else in there. Get a fresh take on it. Okay. Yeah. You know, you know what? Look at these sisters have really been milking that Matrix, the Golden Goose for a while. Because look at these flops they have. Back to back to back.

I know, man. They have Speed racer. They have Cloud Atlas and they have Jupiter ascending. Oh, God. Stop it. Stop it. Hey, how about Robert Eggers? How about Robert Eggers?

Pedro? Well, he's critically acclaimed. We love those guys. Yeah, but what could Eggers do with this storyline? Oh, I thought you, I thought you meant why. Why does he keep getting money to make it? No. No, what would Eggers do with this universe?

If he gives Willem to full 10 minutes to go on a soliloquy in a Matrix movie, I'm there. Okay, that's it. That's all he used to get me. Done. This is a lot of the start farting left and right like he did in the lighthouse. I'm going to go. I was kind of bouncing back and I'm going to give it a 6.75. Jesus Christ.

I was the most looking forward to this. and I'm the lowman of the toe to pull here. Oh, no, I actually was really looking forward to it. But I also had expectations that it was going to suck because I'd heard some bad reviews already. I didn't read the reviews, but I saw the headlines. Just to throw this in there, $190 million budget. That's not too bad.

I mean, you would think those movies would be super expensive now. I mean, that's super expensive. don't get me wrong, but like now you're looking at 250, some of these budgets are way up there now. Yeah, but that means they didn't make their money back yet. I got a long way to go. Yeah. I don't know

how the subscription thing or the streaming thing works. Well, that one you have to have like an upgraded membership on. It's just not the regular HBO Max. I mean, when they drop a movie, I don't know how that does because Wonder Woman

was fucking garbage. But yeah, it was. That was successful for them as far as streaming. I noticed it didn't make Pedro's bottom 10, though. Well, no, because I didn't know if we were going to do that genre. I would have been. It's my number one worst movie of the year. But technically, that movie came out in December, so I don't know.

It's just the technicality here. Okay. Fuck that movie. But, no, I didn't hate this as much as I thought I was going to because everybody else was calling it a dumpster fire and all this shit. Oh, no. You know what? that bad. I mean, I get why

it's not needed, and it's definitely just a bunch of fan service. You know, old... Maybe you benefited from reading the bad reviews of the most. Oh, I totally did. Maybe I should have done it. But, uh, but yeah, I mean, it's not

not what I wanted. But with the great cast, I think with a better story, it could have been really killer. This was the biggest budget out of all four movies. Ooh. With the first one being the smallest with 65 million.

The first one was the best. Easily. But it came up with the idea, man. The first Matrix changed film, you know? Mm-hmm. Like, not just sci-fi, but everything. Agreed. Very influential movie.

All right. Well, let's go spoiler talk. This ought to be exciting. Anybody want to go first? This is a motherfucking spoiler. alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Lance, you were saying something about what they did with Morpheus and Agent Smith? Yeah. Yeah. I don't get it. Did I

miss something? Because they said, your programming is an amalgamation of two of your memories, like Morpheus and Agent Smith and yet he was like all Morpheus right so I think he started out as Agent Smith Yeah when they found When they found them he was Agent Smith So you got kind of a virus so to speak right

Well he was he was a program Yeah I think he was He was in there and Thomas Anderson Subconsciously programmed him Programmed in there So my God I'm glad to be out of the Matrix You know what

It's not fair to watch this movie once and judge it. It's really not. There's a lot going on. He should have been Keanu Reeves who finds out he's Thomas Anderson, who then has to go back to The Matrix. That's how they should have started this movie. If you're going to go to meta. That's what I thought they were going to do.

Really? When we all talked about it, Philip, you mentioned it. I remember distinctly when we watched the trailer. You said it looks like it's Keanu talking to a talent agent. That's what you thought it was, remember? Yeah. No, you're talking about Agent Smith? Ah!

See, they really could have gone meta. See, and the page, I agree with you. There was no, like, real villain to really get behind. That's right. They called them, what do they call him? It wasn't even Agent Smith because they were like three. They called him box. Digi Hauser.

Yeah, when he does the big reveal, that's who he becomes a big bad. But that's almost towards the end. Now, one of the things to me that we haven't even talked about, and it's a big deal and it's soured a lot of people, is that anti-climatic ending to the movie. That was horseshit. Okay, go into detail. When she became the one? Yeah, well, not only that, at the end of the day, the movie doesn't really have any resolution

because it's like, I guess they were counting on a sequel because essentially now the movie starts because now she becomes, no, no, they both become the one. Remember, it's a, it's a, it's, um, Dougie, House. says how like you when they're separated that's how he was controlling them because when they're separated they're miserable and he was using that misery to keep them at bay man i can't believe i retain all this shit from watching them one time no you got it dude got it so howers doogie hauser is a great narrator yeah so so when so that was doogie's whole like motivation to keep them away but when they got together they find out that together they're the one like king and so then

And so then they beat up Thugie for a minute, which he completely knows out, by the way. And by that, I mean, it doesn't hurt him. He just kind of, it's very comedic and campy, which hurts the ending of the movie. They beat up. He's like, ow, ow. And that's all, like, come on, bro. Like, you're the lead heel here. And so at the end, they just kind of fly off because they're going to go beat him up now.

But then, okay, well, now show me. Now the movie ends. So now I got to watch part two again or whatever, you know? This is bullshit. Now, I did appreciate that they bring the French guy, even though he's got that big old bushy beard. That was right. There was no Monica Balucci.

He got stuck in Jumani. Yeah, there was no Monica Balushi. She's a little older or not, but none of the same. Yeah, I was about to say. Jada Pinkett Smith was really, really bad makeup. I fucking hate Jada Pinkett Smith. Really bad makeup. With a scar and shit.

Like, come on. Oh, that was fucking. That's what I was saying. Where did that one point on million go? The whole building of a new city, the robots working with humans, and then you got other humans jumping to the robot side. I thought that was more interesting than what we were given.

And that was such a small part of the movie, because I thought, okay, here's their chance to get a, you know how Star Wars always thinking about the summer shopping season? I mean, the Christmas shopping season, and they always introduce all these robots and droids. Well, here we got, here they introduced like two droids, and we never see them again for the rest of the movie. Oh, they're working with us.

The machines work with us now. Like BV8. Yeah, and it's two pretty cool-looking droids. And I'm thinking, oh, the kids are going to want this fucking toy for Christmas. Nope, because we never see them again, so they didn't want shit. But, um... Well, that and they kind of look like bugs. That's true.

Now, here's where I'm confused. And I'm sure everybody's confused, but here's where I'm really confused. So somewhere along the line, when Neil destroys, oh, no, when Neil makes peace with the machines sacrificing himself at the end of part three, somehow the architect, I don't know if he got fire or deleted, but they brought in the analyst, which is Doogie. And he created this new system. I don't know if I'm getting that correctly, where I guess the machines themselves didn't like where Dewey Hauser was going. So they turned on Doogie Hauser kind of like with a rebellion and joined the humans. Am I getting that correct? Yeah, yeah.

They were... It's just weird. Like, it's just... Sounds right. Sounds right. So now, so now the analyst kind of has to keep control of the machines, but then I thought the architect was the leader of all this shit. I mean, I'm sure I'm wrong, but I always figured... No, I think you're right.

Everything you've said sounds spot on. Like, you sure you've only seen this movie once? Yeah. Dude, you're analyzing, like you've seen it several times. But I thought it intently for this very fucking reason. it because I didn't want to feel, well, I'm not going to say that word here. Just let you say I didn't want to feel dumb. How about that? And so, go ahead. Even the machines, though, once they gain the sentience, like, they don't

want to be under the boot of anybody either. Yeah, because you had the whole faction of Agent Smith and all them that were freed themselves. Yeah. And this sure was a simpler story when it was called The Matrix. So why they, okay, I have another question that confused me. Why does Agent Smith help Neil at the end of the movie? What's the, what's the purpose of that? Because he doesn't want to be controlled by the analyst anymore. I see. Okay. Well, that makes sense. He's like, that guy. You guys are, you guys are, you guys are, uh, you know, y'all, you did a much more deep dive than I did, apparently. And all I saw was just a cheap, cheap knockoff of the original to

grab some money. I think it did at least have a lot to say and Doogie's monologues were pretty fantastic, especially at the end there when he's talking about just the nature of people. No, that was cool. I like that because there's a lot of writing that. And I also like how he uses bullet time, which is the thing that really took everybody by storm way back in 1999, that whole concept. And he uses it as his primary weapon to control Neal, right? Because he can't move. And so that was pretty cool how they that was me yeah

but I also I also feel like he turned into one of those mustache trolling yuck yuck yuck villains at the end so this is going on let me go ahead and reveal my entire plan because now I have them here and I'm going to put a lot of logging you know what that's

that's funny because I just recently watched what's that Seth MacFarland Western movie oh a million ways to die of the yeah And he was a mustache twirling kind of villain in that one. Right.

Yeah. Yeah, like I said, for a one-time watch, it was fun. You know, nothing lost, nothing gained. It was good. And I'll never see it again. Unless they do a sequel, then I feel like I'm going to have to see it again. But I just didn't like the way it ended. I feel like they're already relying on the sequel.

And now we're going to get the big battle. Once again, between now it's the analyst versus the one, which is Trinity and Neal. So it just goes back in a big old circle again. Yeah. I wasn't a fan of that whole battle scene. Like, man, they could have done a whole lot more with that. And then it looks like they did do a statue of Larry Fishburn, which I chuckled at. Yeah.

They just brought the guy in. Did he just not sign up to do the movie or did they? He said he wasn't asked to be in it. Really? That's what he said. Why? What? I don't know that

Maybe it's the weight game Who made that decision? The person that saw how he looks in between part one and part two? I don't know See, that would That would the only reason that I mean Because obviously Hugo Wiggins couldn't do the movie

But I mean, you know, they could have stuck him in that role And it would have been great Maybe he read the script and said fuck this I mean But Lange friend could have just jumped in the car with Neo from the John Wick said. There was no reason to kill him off.

If only we could have gotten Samara weaving in this, can you guys imagine? There you go. As Agent Smith. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I'd watch that. Like the Terminatrix.

Yeah. You know, now that we're doing this whole multiverse thing, I wonder where we're going to get a movie with all the Terminators coming together and trying to kill John Connox. honor. You got the Terminatorics. You got that Latino guy from the last one. You got the T-1000, and then you got the T-800. But they're all old-nosed, so I don't know if they could pull it off. Yeah, I was going to say, Arnold doesn't have a whole lot of time left. I don't know.

Stop it. All right. 80 years old, doing Terminator. You are ready to sign out? I'd be back. I can't remember where I'm going. I think we've covered this movie, right? Oh, and... Damn it, there was something else I wanted...

Oh, okay, so I think part of the reason that they made this movie, they gave you in the movie, where they talked about... Warner Brothers said that they were going to make the new game with or without them. God. That was cringy. I think I've seen a commercial for the game.

Well, what I'm saying is, Like, that may be why they made this movie. I mean, the studio could have been like, listen, we're making this movie with or without you. Do you want to be a part of it or not? So they made the movie to sell the game? Well, no, but I think that they made the movie because they were going to do it with or without the Wachowski's. And, all right, let's do it. To their credit, they held on for a long time, though, because they did not want to make this movie.

You know, when only Lana came back. it's like yeah i give them credit for that i mean i'm sure i'm sure at the end of the day the money talked and the and the threat of doing going on without them was kind of probably influential but they really did hold out for a very very long time pedro pedro all i want for christmas is no no metaverse and no meta anymore good luck that's all we got coming man that's all we got coming i told you all bittersweet that we're going to get all that stuff man can you're in the matrix whether you like it or not buddy. Yeah, I know. Repeat, repeat, repeat, repeat.

I already heard repeat, repeat, repeat. They're selling, they're selling like plots of land in VR world right now. I believe it. Well, we're about to find out, aren't we, Brian? Yeah. The Scuttle butt is that the Doctor Strange movie

just had a bunch of reshoots because they wanted to squeeze in a bunch of camels in there, so we'll see if that's true or not. No. Are you serious? Yeah, they just finished shooting. Don't tell him that. Now it's his bottom 10 for next year. I hear Wolverines coming back. I don't want that.

They haven't had the X-Men in any of these movies. I keep looking for an after-credit scene with the X-Men, and I haven't gotten it yet. I don't... We're getting off topic, but I don't think it makes sense to change what they had just because they got the rights to the X-Men because it's going to fuck up what they're building. Yeah, I'd rather him just reboot it completely.

Yeah, just do it right when the time comes. Okay. And no Hugh Jackman, move on. Yeah. He's getting older, too, so I don't know if eating chicken, you know, eight times a day like he says he does, Gwinkween. It's going to allow him to get that body. Yeah, he said he can't keep it up. Well, yeah.

Let's just say that he knows Dwayne Johnson very well. I won't leave it at that. Yes. His training coach. Yes. Pedro, give us your final pitch, man. Big name needles.

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KFabulous Lutcher Brothers. We're on iTunes, just type in K Fabulous. We talk wrestling. We have a good time. We drink. We make fun. We're very un-PC.

So if you don't like that, don't listen, please. And so, but if you are into that, go ahead and listen, because it's a good time. And we're also on the KLB on Facebook, a page that I run where we have a bunch of wrestling

fans there. And that one does get a little serious. So if you guys want to engage in some wrestling talk there, go there and we'll have a good time. So other than that, thank you guys for having me. I think it was a good year. As far as horror movies are concerned, I was very happy. Again, there was nothing that outright pissed me off this year, which is always a good thing. I did not bring up the fact that we actually went back to the movie theater in the middle of the year this year.

Because when I was going through my list, I forgot that the first half of the year, there was no movie theaters open here in California. That's true. But now, you know, I think Black Widow was the first movie that I saw in the theater. If I didn't drive to another county, which is what I was doing there for a while to get to watch some of these movies in the theater. So that was kind of topical. And I just hope we don't go back to that. But for now, we haven't. And I'm going to just hold on to the day.

And that's it. Thank you, guys. And happy New Year, everyone. Yeah. Thank you, man. Always invited back, dude, anytime, man. Our first guest, our best guest. Uh-oh.

Well, you tell that to everyone. I think I heard you tell that to that one guy last week. I think we did. As always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. Oh, shit. There's a contest going on. So send us an email at the Horror Returns at gmail.com.

Or fuck, just go find us at www. thehorror returns.com and do what Darren did and go into our reach out to us button or whatever the fuck it is and follow our social media links. Rate us and review us. Nobody's done that

in a while. So next week, Brian, what's up? It's our yearly best and worst list. Very interested to hear yours, Lance. Well, sometimes you fuck with us and change it up.

So what all are we doing? Okay, we're doing best, worst, and TV show, and then another one I was thinking about doing, what was the best monster creature we've seen in a movie this year? I got a couple ideas. Godzilla? Is that this year? That feels like 10 years ago.

I don't know. They make a remake. No, I got some ideas. I like that. I like, are you down, Philip? Yeah. Oh, I just, actually, I just saw it. The first thing on my list wins.

Best Monsters. But we'll save that for next week. I know old. I know old is your number one, right? I think it might be, dude. It very, very, very, very, very well may be. Actually, you know what? I'm cheating a little bit.

I'm not going to reveal it yet, but it's going to be something that was actually very, very last week of 2020, but I'm going to count it. So think about that. Philip, until the horror returns again. Good night.