The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #293: The Best And Worst Of 2021

Episode Date: January 2, 2022

We cover our favorites and our not so favorites of 2021. We also get an email from Tavares Ellis - You're in the CONTEST! Thanks for listening! ...

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Starting point is 00:01:06 Welcome everybody. Welcome home, as we used to say in the old days, as I'm doing all these re-uploads. To The Hore Returns, you guys have found us. But tonight I am not your host. Tonight, your host is the Inemitable Brian, because me, Nez and Philip are here just to give our picks. But we don't know what Brian's going to throw at us. This is your show, man. This is our annual best and worst of. Take it away, Brian.
Starting point is 00:01:39 All right. I think first we're going to start with something new this year. Best Monster slash Creature of the Year. Who wants to go first? Ooh, not me. I'm still undecided. This couldn't be easier for me. I would listen to your recommendations.
Starting point is 00:01:59 You go, NASA is going first. The Psycho-Gorman. He was bad ass. Same thing, man. man, you beat me to it. He was awesome. I got another creature in there, but that was awesome. Absolutely.
Starting point is 00:02:18 What was your other one? Whatever that thing was in Antlers. Oh, the Windigo. Yeah, that thing. The Indigo go-go? That was among my top. I couldn't decide between the Windigo and maybe the thing in malignant. Gabriel
Starting point is 00:02:39 Yeah But I like Psycho Gorman I think I'm going to steal your answer next Yeah I'm totally
Starting point is 00:02:50 I like hunky boys And I like PsychoGormand And so the There's not much of a choice On this one Great Makeup Great practicals
Starting point is 00:03:03 Kind of ferocious And humorous at the same time, it's like you're, you laugh your ass off as he kills you. So, uh, Psycho Gorman. Are you in the club too, Brian? Yeah, I'm going to have to go with Psychogorman all around. Uh, my, my run is up was Gabriel from Malignant. And, uh, I don't know how to pronounce this, but it was in that Netflix movie.
Starting point is 00:03:27 Uh, no one gets out alive. Ah, I haven't seen that one. Yeah, you've seen the ritual, right? Yes. It's kind of It kind of hits you like that When you first see that creature That was the wind to go too, right?
Starting point is 00:03:42 And the ritual? Yeah, but it had the people hands for her mouth Or whatever Yeah, yeah, yeah Yeah, it's not like that But it hits you like that Because that's not what she was expecting to see And at the end of the movie
Starting point is 00:03:56 It just kind of crawls out this tiny box And really cool design But I don't know how to pronounce it So you said it's called no no one here gets out alive no one gets out alive so okay so not not to be not to be confused with the the Jim Morrison uh the door song huh no okay all right cool no no love for Santa Jaws no not this well naz loved it let nas loved the effects I did my if I have to run up that one chick in old when she was all deformed hiding in the dark.
Starting point is 00:04:37 That's a good... The other one that had to, like, calcium deficiency. Yeah, well, Crystal, I think that was her name. That was all crazy. I wanted to see more of it. We only saw it, like, really quick, but that was pretty raw. I liked that one. Right.
Starting point is 00:04:58 Moving on to the next one. Best superhero slash action movie. Ness. Justice League, the Snyder cut. Good call. Surprising. Okay. That was awesome. I mean, that, I did like the
Starting point is 00:05:21 first one. But then after I watched the Snyder cut, I went and rewatched that the first cut. Oh, I don't know. That made me go, all right, I see what everyone was talking about. because I was like, man, that was no good.
Starting point is 00:05:39 But I was accepting it for what it was. I mean, like, well, shit, man, I finally get a Justice League movie. And all right, I mean, that wasn't like this was going to be the definitive movie. But I was like, all right, hey, man, I'll take whatever they're going to give me because we didn't have any of this shit growing up. So I was like, all right, cool. But then when everyone was talking about the Snyder cut, release this, release that. And then HBO Max came along. and all right, we're going to give you this.
Starting point is 00:06:07 And it was during the time where I wasn't in the theaters. I wish I would have went and saw that in the theater because that movie was fucking awesome. I loved it. I appreciate this movie. It made me like Batman v. Superman more because I hated that when I first saw.
Starting point is 00:06:27 I was like, what the hell's going on in this? I was like, what is he trying to do? the Justice League made up made that one make a little more sense was it still like was it the greatest movie no it wasn't but I was like ah I see what he was trying to do here because when he was adding all that other stuff and we're like what's going on why why is he doing this and then when we got Justice League and none of it made sense I was like hmm okay I was all right man whatever I'm just this is what he's doing and man is steel I really didn't care for that one either I was kind of kind of like, what's happening here? What's he doing with this? Because that is it, my man is steel. I mean, Christopher Reeve, rest in peace. But I was like, all right. But when he did, we finally got to see the Snyder cut.
Starting point is 00:07:16 I was expecting just the same movie and maybe just some reshoots of this and that. I wasn't expecting what we got. It was a totally different movie. It was like he threw pretty much everything away that was going on in that first cut of the film and he gave us what he wanted. And I just thought it was amazing. I didn't like the little aspect ratio he chose, but that's how he wanted that was, that's how he visioned it.
Starting point is 00:07:46 And I thought it was awesome. I loved that movie. Yeah, it was a movie that came out a couple years or was it last year or the year before? Well, but yeah, this was 17 was the first one. It's been a while. Okay. Yeah. So, but man, because some people were like, can we put this in our favorite list?
Starting point is 00:08:06 I said, it's a new movie. Oh, yeah. It wasn't what we saw before. It's on my list. Yeah, so, yeah, that movie was awesome, man. I loved it. Yeah, it's Snyder Cut, Justice League. And no disrespect, but Henry Cavill will whoop Christopher Reeves' ass.
Starting point is 00:08:26 Not even. Uh-oh. Uh-oh. He got beat up by Tom. He got beat up by Tom Cruise. No. I don't like my Superman looking like maybe they can look like me. That was a real Superman.
Starting point is 00:08:41 George Reeves, you're Superman, too, but no. Christopher Reeve is the only Superman. Not Dean Kane, not whoever he is now. And it'll never be... I'll let that one go. But it'll never be Nicholas Cage. But I would like to see... that movie.
Starting point is 00:09:01 I'm sure it'll get made. How trash is that thing? I don't know, man. He's been putting out movies left and right and the last one, the last few I watched. I'm like, damn, man, how come? You know he'd take it serious.
Starting point is 00:09:17 He named his son after him. Yeah, like, how come none of his, how come none of these movies that he puts out or in a theater? I mean, yeah, they're good. What was that one last? year. Mandy?
Starting point is 00:09:32 No. The other one. Willie's Wonderland? No. Was it last year or the year before? He does like six movies of fucking year now. That alien one.
Starting point is 00:09:43 Oh, Mom and Dad. Oh, Colorado Space. Oh, Colorado Space. Yes. Oh, my God. Which movie did he put out last year? Yeah, that one.
Starting point is 00:09:51 Yeah, a lot of them. That one was awesome. I mean, even Pig, it's not on my list. It's probably been an honorable mention. Even that movie was really good. I never watched that one.
Starting point is 00:10:01 I need to check that out. That's a good movie. I was like, man, I hope the Academy's looking at it, because I thought he did an amazing job in that film. Yeah, they probably won't. I don't know why everyone was putting in the horror category. That was horror?
Starting point is 00:10:17 But, all right. I think it was marketed incorrectly. Horific thing that happened to his pigs. Spoiler. Yeah, it was horrific. Yeah, but I was like, come on. This is, I was expecting. a horror movie, but I, well, most of some of these on my list, I thought were going to be horror movies.
Starting point is 00:10:34 To me, they weren't, but they're on the horror category. I've got a lot that are not horror. Sorry, guys. I haven't seen them any movies this year. All right, Phil, let's go with you now. For the top superhero, I'm going to have to go to the Suicide Squad, I think. Nice. That's a good pick. Yeah. It was between that and Justice League and Spider-Man, Lance.
Starting point is 00:11:06 All right. To each their own. I'm in the minority on that one. Ness pointed that out to me. But yeah, no, I'll stick with the Suicide Squad. Every second of it was fun and funny in the right way, right? Like, Justice League, the original one, tried to be funny, and it did not work for me. It just, they were like, oh, we need the joke here.
Starting point is 00:11:33 And they said some shit that just didn't hit. And the suicide squad really nailed it, man. I thought it was hilarious in all the right ways. All the actors were fucking great in it. Even that polka dot guy surprised the shit out of me. He was really good. That was hilarious. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:11:51 He was good, but I can't look at him. It just creeps me out. He's a weird looking dude. Yeah. I love that actor. He's awesome. I love him in Ant Man. But I don't know.
Starting point is 00:12:03 He just... Well, he's a weird looking dude in general. He's a weird looking dude, Ant Man. When the bumps and all that happened, I'm not one of those... Right. Yeah. The one of those people that can't look at holes or anything, but... Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:16 It just creep me out. It's just allergies. Yeah. All right, Lance. For me, it was, it's far and away. Both the ones you guys, both the ones you guys mentioned are good, but for my money, it was Shang Chi and the Legend of the Ten Rings. I see that. Just because I thought the storywriting was so superb, and I thought the villain was not only believable, but like there were literally parts in that movie that I was reading for the villain.
Starting point is 00:12:52 you know, kind of like they're able to do with the X-Men storylines. Part of you always reads for Magneto. It's like, I totally get it. I get exactly where he's coming from. Is he even really a villain? That's a good question. Was he a villain? That's what makes the movie so great for me.
Starting point is 00:13:08 I felt like when you first met him, he was more of a villain. Yeah, in the beginning. But then when he met his wife and had his son, even after all that happened, I never felt like he was a villain. I was just kind of sympathetic to his character. Yeah, I liked every character in it. I mean, Aquafina, she can be hit or miss. I like her a lot more often than I don't,
Starting point is 00:13:32 but in this one, I thought she was fantastic. And I don't know. I just really liked the character. And the actor that played Shung Chi actually showed up on Saturday Night Live, and the guy's pretty fucking funny, too. So he can do comedy, he can do action. Yeah, that show, something. Kim's convenience.
Starting point is 00:13:53 Yeah. Isn't that a comic show? He was in that? Yeah. Yeah. You've talked about that, NAS. I heard you talk about that one before. He's in that.
Starting point is 00:14:00 I mean, I love Aquafina. She was my favorite. And I'm kicking myself for not picking up her action figure. I knew it. I was like, because I loved her from just other things she's done. Yeah. But I was like, I don't know. I don't know how she's going to be in this.
Starting point is 00:14:18 Is she going to be funny? She going to be serious? and then after I saw the film all those action figures that she had gone I was like ah she gets a lot of hate and a lot of it seems to be really for stupid reasons but I like her yeah she's funny I like her and I hope she doesn't
Starting point is 00:14:39 because I know some they didn't want her to the way she spoke that they just didn't like the tone of her voice and that's yeah some people that's how she's irritating That's how she sounds, and that's what I like about her. Plus, she's funny. I mean, that show she had, what's her name in Queens or Nora from Queens? That's right, Nora. It's hell of funny.
Starting point is 00:15:01 Well, and, you know, as soon as she starts talking, you know it's her. Oh, yeah. There's a lot of other really great actors where as soon as they start talking, you know it's them, you know? I guess it's on me here. Shang-Chi was right there throughout most of the. the year when I'm up to go Spider-Man. Oh, I knew somebody would. And I have to go with Spider-Man because honestly, when I went into it, my expectations
Starting point is 00:15:28 were a little bit low. Yeah, mine do. Because I thought everything that they were trying to do was going to just miss at some point. But to me, for the MCU Spider-Man, this was kind of like it's endgame. And I thought I loved everything with bringing all the Spider-Men back, bringing all the villains back, continuing the story.
Starting point is 00:15:53 This kind of closes this chapter for Spider-Man, but it also sets up a new storyline. And I can see that, and the more I think about it, the more people I hear talk about it, I'm like, okay, this was kind of a good way to do the reset button where he can be more of like a street-level superhero
Starting point is 00:16:12 because I just finished watching the Hawkeye series and we benched it in like two nights and I loved it. That was awesome. Great. Yeah. Awesome. That was as long as I decided on my top TV series, too, and that's up there.
Starting point is 00:16:26 Episodes just kept getting better and better. You'll figure something out. Fucking love by Echo. Speaking of comic book TV shows, check out our best of 2021 TV, comic book movies. We just dropped that New Year's Eve. So for East Society. So go check that out. The link is on the horror.
Starting point is 00:16:49 I'm loading it right now. The horror returns group page. Our list were pretty much similar because there was only like so much a handful of movie or television shows. There was a lot of comic book shows out there. We just didn't watch all of them. I mean, if you guys know us were Marvel and Star Wars and whatnot. So it was pretty much all the Marvel shows that were out there. But I threw a couple different ones in there.
Starting point is 00:17:17 But yeah, check out that show. We got, we're going to drop our best of TV. Probably when we're recording this on Saturday, sometime today, probably when we're done recording this. And then we still got our best of movies and everything else. We're doing two movies. We're doing comic book movies and we're just doing regular movies. So we got those coming for you guys.
Starting point is 00:17:39 Nice. Check those out. All right. Real quick, runners up, Rathab Man. Jason Statham was fucking awesome. I never watched it. What? Nobody.
Starting point is 00:17:53 You're missing out. I never watched that one either, man. Oh, man. Yeah. Hey, nobody was the movie that got me back into the theater, guys. Yeah. Double feature, Phil. Yeah, definitely.
Starting point is 00:18:05 Yes. Those are, they've always been on my list, and I just never got around to watch them. You got to see both of them. They were badass. Yeah, it's worth it. All right. Best. TV series.
Starting point is 00:18:19 It's go with Lance. It's for the third time in four years, the same show runner gets my vote. Brian, you know what I'm talking about. Cobra Kai. No.
Starting point is 00:18:34 Mike Flanagan. Hey, that's on my list too, man. So, I'm going to put it... All right, well, we'll all get our chance, but let me say my piece here. What I loved about it, And make no mistake, the remake of the stand was on the top of my list until this.
Starting point is 00:18:52 But this was just so, and Mike Flanagan does a lot of Stephen King really well. This wasn't a Stephen King story, but it was so Stephen King. Like you had the little, you know, New England fishing town. Oh, it kind of was. Yeah, you kind of had surprises of who the monsters were. It's not what I expected at all. Yeah, where were that? And I just thought there was a lot of great dialogue in that.
Starting point is 00:19:17 It looked like Salem area or something like that. I don't know. I think so. Sure where they were. Yeah, I just know the dialogue really got me thinking a lot. And I kind of like the way that they sort of refocused from one character to another one with a couple of episodes left. Some people didn't like that. I really did.
Starting point is 00:19:38 So that Midnight Mass is my number one. I tried, guys. I fell asleep in the first episode. It's very slow. That was what I was going to ask. How many episodes did you get into it? I'm going to keep pushing, but I just, I don't know. It seemed to help you go to sleep.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Well, and remember when we first started talking about that when it came out, I think you were a couple of episodes into Squid Game, and I was a couple episodes into that, and I was like, Squid Game is awesome, and you're like, oh, well, this is all right. And I said I tried to watch Black Mass, and I was kind of disappointed so far. Yeah, you got to be wide awake to watch that. Yeah. There's a lot in it, that's for sure.
Starting point is 00:20:23 I got through it all. I just didn't. I mean, I can take it for as a good story. But, I mean, the subject matter went over my head because I wasn't unsure of the religious aspect of it all. So that's why I brought Mike. When Mike and I did our rundown of every episode for when we did our 31 Days of Horror, him going to Catholic school his whole life, he was able to explain the religious aspect of.
Starting point is 00:20:52 So I was like, oh, okay, I get it. I said, I get it, but I still didn't. It was all right. I mean, am I mad that I watched the whole thing? No. But I did, I binge that thing. I went as soon as one episode was over, I was like, for me, those first few episodes, to me, I think it didn't really pick up until maybe the last,
Starting point is 00:21:15 The last three episodes is what got exciting because it was just like, all right, all right. I knew what was coming, some kind of creatures. And I was like, all right, all right. Let me see what they're doing. But to me, I think the real monsters in it, this is my opinion, the real monsters were the religious people on how how crazy it went. Like in the mist. When that one lady got in everyone's head. Yeah, Mrs. Carmody got all that started in the mist.
Starting point is 00:21:44 Yeah, so it reminded me of something like that. Not as far as monsters from another dimension, but I mean, the whole religious thing. And, I mean, I like watching out for the zealots, man. Oh, that's a big Stephen King subject. He's still like that old lady who threw a can of peas at her head. It's like, yeah, I thought, I mean, but I liked what was happening. It just didn't do it for me. But I got through the whole thing.
Starting point is 00:22:14 Nice. Whose turns was it? You go first. I'm still undecided. Okay. Got to do it. I think it was the same as last year, Cobra Kai.
Starting point is 00:22:29 Cobra Kai. There we go. What season? That's on again now, isn't it? Season four. Binched it. Is it already out? Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:39 Is it even better? Is it even better than three? I thought so. Oh, no. it gives you what you wanted. Hell yeah, I did. But then it turns around and it ends and he just want more. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:22:54 There's one guy I don't want to see in the next one. Brian, who he is? I thought he was going to. I'm not going to spoil it. But there was a scene where he was like, I got a surprise for you. They going to go somewhere.
Starting point is 00:23:07 Yeah, I thought so too. I was like, oh my gosh, they brought him back. Yeah. No. I won't ask. I won't ask. That other dude. I hate. I don't want him
Starting point is 00:23:16 to make his appearance in it. Listen to our action returns. Oh, you know it. I don't want him in it, but. And, uh, I'm not going to spoil it, but the new kid, I thought he was great because he just, he was so scared and timid. And by the end, he was just like,
Starting point is 00:23:42 kind of menacing just the way, he was talking to somebody. I was kind of unsure on what they were doing with him until they revealed who he was. I was like, ah, okay. Yeah, did you see his face when he was talking to that kid? Yeah. About what his high school life is going to be like?
Starting point is 00:24:01 Yep. I was like, oh, you went full villain, poor kid. He went heel all the way. Fast. Took a heel turn, huh? Hell of fast. He did. I was like, ooh.
Starting point is 00:24:14 and my runner up is a reservation dogs I love that series that one I still haven't watched through yet either I was I was expected a good show but the thing I was not expecting was how good the kids were acting all the way through so definitely I'm glad they got picked up for a second season so definitely uh ready for that
Starting point is 00:24:40 well that roll into mine My number one show was Reservation Dogs. Nice. Oh, it beat up, Cobra Kai. Yeah. I love it. I love it. It was, that show was awesome.
Starting point is 00:24:54 Don't get me wrong. Cobra Kai, season three was badass. Season four was even more badass. But, and I was happy we got two seasons in one year to kick us off, to kick us 2021 off with season three. And then to end it with season four was amazing. But reservation dogs hit me more on a personal level of what was going on with these kids living out in the reservation. I grew up in the city my whole life. I live on a res now, but I still know that res life because I've spent many summers and many holidays down in Arizona at my grandparents' house.
Starting point is 00:25:35 And so, I mean, I know that lifestyle on how they were living, on how them not wanting to. mainly the main girl Laura Danon and she was like we have to get out of here because this place is going to kill us and for a lot of people that's true I mean even here where I live
Starting point is 00:25:56 I mean my son was like you know what he grew up here he was born in the city but he grew up here on the res and then when he right before he hit 18 right when he graduated he's like I'm out of here he goes this this place he goes I can't be like
Starting point is 00:26:12 what he's seeing He goes, I want to go experience other places. I want to live my life somewhere else. He goes, because if I stay here, he goes, I'm going to end up like his friends and everyone else. And I told him, I said, as much as we didn't want him to leave, and we both of us understood because my wife left too. As soon as she graduated, she took off. She went off. She went to Cal Berkeley, started her life down in the city.
Starting point is 00:26:39 Eventually came back for once we started having kids. um yeah she i could see on what these kids were doing on how i don't know that every res is different not a lot of people just think the reservation is is the same they're not everyone in this country uh is different they're not all like any small town i guess yeah we don't we don't all have casinos yeah and we all don't have that casino money i wish i had that casino money because shit they're not can retire but I mean these kids didn't have that casino money they were out there hustle they were little hustlers man that's it was awesome I mean all four of them as well as the rival game the Indian mafia I thought they were badass shout out to Mike bone and they were awesome in it
Starting point is 00:27:30 but I mean to me the one that stole the show was my girl Paulina Alexis Willie Jack she was fucking awesome and that's my girl man I give her nothing but love but I mean, what Sterling Hydro brought for us in this TV show. Also, shout out to Tycho Watiti. If it wasn't for him, we wouldn't have gotten this show. He's a bad dude. Because FX, since they had what we do in the shadows, they came to him. They said, hey, do you have another show you can do?
Starting point is 00:28:02 And he's like, you know what? He goes, I do. So he hooked up with his buddy and said, hey, man, FX isn't giving me this another show. Let's do what you wanted to do. that's reservation dogs that's what we got and um i didn't think it was going to be a hit i just figured it was going to be another show that came and went but now this show just boom it just it came out and they dropped two episodes on us first and then it just blew up into what it is so i mean i'm i'm excited uh i hope nothing but the best for all these young actors in it
Starting point is 00:28:36 there was a lot of actors in it that you've seen before um there's a movie that i had seen earlier this year that had a bear, I can't pronounce his real name and it had a Pauline and Alexis. They were both in it. So it's good to see that they were out there doing everything. Devery Jacobs, she played
Starting point is 00:28:56 Laura Dannon. She's also in that. She was also, I think, one episode of Rutherford Falls. She was in it. That was another amazing show. I would give that as a runner-up. But for a number one show that I watched, I think I watched it about, I don't know, multiple times.
Starting point is 00:29:12 I rewatched a lot of the episodes and the whole season over and over, but it hit me on a personal level with some of the stuff that was going on in it. And I laughed through a lot of it. I got mad at some of it, but there was some things that happened in this show that I just, I couldn't hold my tears back because it just really hit a close spot to me. And that's what I love about the show. I don't just love it because they're Native Americans, but I just thought it was an awesome show because it. If you guys have been listening to the show, I was all over fucking Cobra Kai the last few years. Yeah. Because that shows.
Starting point is 00:29:48 I'm, I'm shocked. I thought it was going to be either Cobra Kai or Young Sheldon, for sure. Young Sheldon. We've got a lot of good TV, man. Young Sheldon, I still watch it. But it ain't as good as it was the first two seasons, though, right? Yeah, he's getting older now. And I love the show.
Starting point is 00:30:08 Don't get me wrong. I still watch it. I watch the reruns. but all the stuff that Sheldon was saying in Big Bang Theory isn't what's happening in the young Sheldon the way he made his dad seem he was. They're not following canon. They're not.
Starting point is 00:30:26 I mean, I understand. I mean, and if you guys did watch Big Bang Theory and Jackie, Lorraine Metcalf, Sheldon's mom, Mary Cooper. She was all racist. and super religious on Big Big Theory,
Starting point is 00:30:45 you can't see her character in Young Sheldon acting like that because she's a little more, a little more PC, but it's still a good show.
Starting point is 00:30:56 I love it. I watch it over and over. I watch all the reruns and everything. I'll watch that show to the end, but reservation dogs just stole it for me.
Starting point is 00:31:05 I did have a number one show and that was Rutherford Falls until what you call until reservation dogs knocked it off boobooed that to the side but I still got
Starting point is 00:31:18 I still got love for Cobra Cod because those two seasons I mean I guess we could talk more about the third one with the return of Chosen from Karate Kid 2 as well as Kumiko and then popping in but I was
Starting point is 00:31:34 excited and I said this on our show you hear it again so if you listen listen to that about there's some they must be listening to me I was explaining this to my wife too because she hasn't she didn't watch it all yet okay everything that's happened
Starting point is 00:31:50 after the first season I was like you know what this is what I want and I think I explained it to Brian too when we did them all everything that I wanted is happening and now and then what happened in this one season four happened and I said this is what I want
Starting point is 00:32:08 later on if it wasn't in season four and it's going to happen so i i'll give it to the writers for that show they must really be fans of those movies not the next karate kid i mean i love hillary swank but she's got nothing to do with this storyline don't don't try to shoe horn her in and well you know it's coming no there's no reason for her to come in I saw an interview that he, somebody to ask him about Jaden Smith and Jackie Chan, and he said it would never happen because that's, that's a remake. It's not, it's not the other universe. Not part of the timeline.
Starting point is 00:32:52 Just throw Jackie Chan in there somewhere. I'm not mad at it. But he did say the door is open for what's their face from the next karate kid to pop up. No. And he said it like he knows something. don't try to shoehorn her in don't she can't be somebody's long lost mother
Starting point is 00:33:14 or relative no it's not she didn't even know who Miyagi was if they do put her in just do it like they did like Ali Ali was in there for like an episode that's fine I can live with that but don't make hey man she can fight too
Starting point is 00:33:30 no that she did an awesome fight at the end of um the hell was that movie not the perch one one the hunt the hunt
Starting point is 00:33:43 that was an awesome that did that's true I don't I don't man I mean I love her I met her once she's a beautiful
Starting point is 00:33:52 woman Academy Award winner but no Julie does not go with this storyline but Julie son no no man
Starting point is 00:34:02 I don't want it but guaranteed guaranteed no I don't want it. Then you got to bring back Michael Ironside. I let him slide.
Starting point is 00:34:15 No, she can't be a part of this. There's no reason to bring her in. The only way they could bring her in is if they, maybe they did some kind of honor ceremony for Mr. Miyagi and then she pops in. All right, I'll accept that. That makes sense. But as far as, hey, man, we need more firepower.
Starting point is 00:34:34 We need more firepower. Hey, there's this girl, Julie. No, none of these guys know who Julie is. No, I don't want that. All right, yeah, move on. I'm getting mad. All right. Now they're listening again.
Starting point is 00:34:45 Moving on. Her karate was stupid. But yeah, reservation dogs. If anybody hasn't seen it, check it out. All right. Well, that's next on my list. Shout out to White Steve and his dance moves. Freestyles.
Starting point is 00:35:04 Phil, did you go? No, I'm going to have to, uh, can I do Boba Fett? No, no, no, no, you can't. No, no. That's only one episode. That's why it's not, not mayor. I know. I had to like tell Theo, you can't have this on your list.
Starting point is 00:35:25 There's only been one episode. What if the next, what if the next six episodes are garbage? But this show is going to be fucking phenomenal. And it's not, it's going to be on my list next year. that yeah but yeah I love the first episode um and then aside from that uh you know I think I got a little Hawkeye nice nice show it was a yeah short a little more lighthearted than than some of the others um because all the Marvel stuff has been pretty good TV series wise um for the past year I mean Wanda vision still counts that's 2021 right yeah
Starting point is 00:36:06 I felt like they just got better. Yeah. Yeah. And I liked Loki. I thought that was great. Hawkeye just, you know, I mean, it didn't really set anything up for future stuff. Yeah, it did. I mean, it did.
Starting point is 00:36:21 But nothing major. Yeah, dude. What are you talking about? What? Like. I don't want to spoil it, but everyone has seen it. But, all right, everybody skip ahead five minutes. The new Hawkeye.
Starting point is 00:36:33 I admit it, Philip. You love the musical. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.
Starting point is 00:36:49 Oh, I hated that. Ant Man wasn't there. I hated that. I love that Hawkeye character in this because he's like a real guy in this world. of just complete stupidity. Yeah, see, that's what they set up. They set up the street level stuff.
Starting point is 00:37:12 Yeah. I got you. I'm coming around on Spider-Man a little bit. Kingpin and then Daredevil's coming in. Yeah, Maya Lopez Echo. Her show's already been announced. Yep. Yeah, the Kingpin reveal was pretty badass.
Starting point is 00:37:27 I'm excited to see him in the MCU. I'm glad it was him. Well, but will we? Well, all right. you know very... I want to see if there's any blowback on what's her name for not a killing Hawkeye? Because that was a mission. The Asian chick?
Starting point is 00:37:49 No. No, Florence Pug. Yeah. Oh, okay. Galena? That was not just personal. That was also a mission. Well, that's true.
Starting point is 00:38:00 But it was a mission set up from... It stem from Kingpin, right? Elaine gave her... the information. I don't remember her name, but she's only Elaine. The Black Widow. She was like, I have your next target, and it just so happened to be
Starting point is 00:38:16 the guy that she thought killed her killed her sister. Yeah. Huh. I don't know. I see, and I like that whole storyline, too. That was better than the Black Widow movie, which was garbage. She's fucking great. I like the movie. She was awesome. They gave her so much personality
Starting point is 00:38:32 in this one. Yes. Oh, that, the beginning when they showed what happened to her during the blip. Yeah, we never got that perspective from. No. That was awesome. I want to watch the whole series again
Starting point is 00:38:49 because I love Florence Peele. The first thing I saw her in was that the page movie. I will have box macaroni with her anytime. Oh, hell yeah. And that Russian accent. That just made it better. I mean, that's why I, you didn't
Starting point is 00:39:06 you didn't like Black Widow? No, not the movie. This show gives that movie. This show gives that movie more weight, I think. Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Well, because she was great in the movie. It was just the movie in general didn't necessarily need to happen.
Starting point is 00:39:26 It should have happened a long time ago. Right. Yeah, that's where. Yeah. I liked it for what it was. King Penn was fucking great. I'm glad they brought back. who they needed to bring back
Starting point is 00:39:38 Denafrio was that his name? Yeah Private Pile They made him He wasn't a Netflix version Because he was more powerful In this one Yeah so something happened
Starting point is 00:39:50 Between Netflix and now I think we're not They're not even going to acknowledge All that Netflix stuff Yeah But You know They acknowledge that he is Kingpin
Starting point is 00:40:01 And he's just more powerful Than you thought he was You know I mean Because yeah Kingpin is just solid muscle. He's right.
Starting point is 00:40:08 He can do this all day. Yeah, he got shot in the chest with an arrow and pulled it out, kept going. So I can't imagine a gunshot's going to phase him too much. He got hit by a speeding car through a window. Yeah, that was hilarious, man. All he was was annoyed. He shook it off. He's pissed.
Starting point is 00:40:28 Is he supernatural, guys? Is Kingpin super natural or just that tough? Big and strong. Yeah, he's got like super strength stuff. In the, but I don't know if they're doing it like the comic, but he, when he goes out like that, he has like body armor underneath his clothes. Oh. I don't know if that's what they're going with, but that's what I, the first thing I thought when he got shot with the arrow and he just like kind of brushed it off. He was, I wasn't really into the whole comic story, but Theo was telling me that something happens to him and he goes blind.
Starting point is 00:41:02 Yeah, she, she does shoot him in the head. Yeah. So we're not sure. He's not sure if we're going to get the blind kingpin. Oh. What did he ever spoil the shit out of this? I got to do the spoiler alert, guys. We did it.
Starting point is 00:41:15 All right. But yeah, that's the storyline. But he gets it fixed, but he's going to be blind for a time. Yeah. There's no way they killed him off. No, hell no. They can't. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:41:28 Why would you bother bringing him back, right? Yeah. There's going to be. If they killed him, there's going to be. If they killed him, there's going to be. be so many pissed off fans. Oh man. When they showed that picture,
Starting point is 00:41:38 when I was like, hey, here, this, look at this. This is a picture of her mom. I already knew he was coming. I knew it was the mom that was up to no good. Yeah. Vera formiga.
Starting point is 00:41:51 Vera formiga. Brian was heartbroken. I was like, I know you're all bad, but you're all good to me. I wouldn't kick her out of bed for eating crackers, but I don't know if I get it. You're ready to move on.
Starting point is 00:42:10 Yep. Bottom list. Before we get to the bottom list, does anybody have any dishonorable mentions? Yes. Yeah. No, I don't. I didn't really watch a lot of bad,
Starting point is 00:42:26 just bad. My list are just horror. I mean, I'm not throwing in regular movies, but as far as bad horror movies, I only had maybe two or three. A lot of my list, and I have a couple Dishonorable Mensions, is basically how Pedro put it. These weren't
Starting point is 00:42:45 bad or that bad of movies. They're just movies I probably never ever watching it. For things that were maybe disappointing, or that you don't remember that you watched. Yeah, like I'll start out. The Deep House is a dishonorable mention. Great premise, haunted house at the bottom of a lake.
Starting point is 00:43:04 these blog vloggers are you know trying to get some footage for the youtube channel and right shit gets spooky in there and i i just great idea the premise was there the atmosphere was there just it just missed a mark for me yeah so you made it sound pretty boring i haven't watched it yet if that gives you any clue uh i think it's on if uh you have epics i think it's on there i might watch it You might like it better than I did. I just thought it was just the atmosphere created. And then adding on that, you know, you know their oxygen is going to run out at some point.
Starting point is 00:43:47 Of course. Just adding to that, I didn't feel like, I should have at least felt like creeped out or something. Yeah. But they just missed it for me. And my one not horror, that's just, honorable mention. I got to put how disappointed I was with the Matrix
Starting point is 00:44:08 Resurrection. I didn't hate it, but I just... But you gave it like a six and a half or something. They put a lot of, you can tell they put a lot of work into it. I can't say it's complete garbage. The only thing that was garbage was the story.
Starting point is 00:44:27 But yeah, like I can see where the criticisms come from. You know what I mean? Because I, I probably like better than everybody. And yeah, I can't completely bash it. Yeah, it was, it still was kind of borderline. I was thinking about it for the bottom. So, those are mine.
Starting point is 00:44:49 Nobody else? Anybody got an honorable mention? I got a couple of dishonorable mentions. Really, really quick. Last night in Soho was a horror movie? It's supposed to be like a joll. We can count it. We covered it for the show, so it counts.
Starting point is 00:45:05 I think it's Edgar Wright doing his version of a Jallo. I didn't think. All my shit's not horror. I'm going to tell you there right now. I didn't think. Yeah, mine neither. I didn't think any of it was horror. I loved the movie.
Starting point is 00:45:18 I thought it was awesome, but I don't know, man. These people get loose with the word horror. Yeah, for sure. But, I mean, it was at least we know. Jaws is a horror. Right now? I don't know Jaws ain't a horror movie. I'll fight somebody for that.
Starting point is 00:45:33 Joss is not a horror movie? No, Stephen Spielberg himself said it wasn't a horror movie. Jaws is the action-adventured fantasy movie. Yes. It's a few guys that went fishing. It's terrifying, which makes it horror. It's horrific, yes. But is it a horror movie?
Starting point is 00:45:49 No. That story he told about all the sailors in the water and it was feeding time with all the sharks. That was horrific. Oh, man. Yeah, there you go. Nicholas Cage even started on a prequel movie about that story. Listen, is there a shark in it? then it's horror.
Starting point is 00:46:06 No, it's not. I mean, that, like, say, Jurassic Park. Is that a horror movie? Which one? Jurassic Park.
Starting point is 00:46:13 It could be. Is there a shark in it? No, but it's got everyone, everyone that was arguing with me online was, well, it's got big monsters in it. It's a horror movie.
Starting point is 00:46:21 I'm like, but what about Jurassic Park? He was on the toilet. Yeah, it wasn't a horror movie. He looked horror far to me. Same thing. He did the shit out of it.
Starting point is 00:46:31 Yeah, it was pretty terrifying. All right, Lance, what are yours? This honorable mentions, only one of which is straight horror, by the way. And I don't think it's even horror. I think it's just ridiculous. It's called Climate of the Hunter. Have you guys heard of this one? Never heard of it.
Starting point is 00:46:50 No. Just skip it. It's on Amazon Prime, but this guy may or may not be a vampire, and these two sisters are kind of like buying for his affairs. direction. It's terrible. Some of the... It's just bad. Because they're got kids. Want to be vampires? What's it called?
Starting point is 00:47:11 You know what? There is a goth kid in it, but he's like, plays his son. Let me just put it. It's called climate of the hunter. Oh, found it. And let me just... I'll just give you one scene. They're eating a salad, and his son is so pissed off at him that he puts garlic in it. And the guy's talking and starts choking. And he says, what did you put garlic in? there. Are these
Starting point is 00:47:35 happens? The one I was my biggest disappointment of the year, well, about two biggest disappointments
Starting point is 00:47:43 of the year, non-horror. One was the little things on HBO Max, just not a huge fan. I thought,
Starting point is 00:47:49 well, we were going to do something much better. What are you talking about? Go listen to our review.
Starting point is 00:47:54 And then the other one, the other one, my man, my absolute dude in Hollywood right now, Taylor Sheridan,
Starting point is 00:48:01 how the fuck he was responsible for this this other atrocity on HBO Max. Those who wish me dead with all that fake CGI Fire, fuck that. I didn't see that one. I missed that one. You know what pissed me off
Starting point is 00:48:17 about that movie? CGR Fire? No, well, yeah. They made it seem like the fire was the fire storm forest fire, whatever the fuck it was. Oh, that one. I was going to be a main thing in the movie.
Starting point is 00:48:33 It felt like an afterthought. Yeah. I know. That was Angelini Jolie, huh? Yeah. She was fine in it. That's the one. It just, no.
Starting point is 00:48:44 Not this one. It was, you know, forest fire, so didn't call. It got hot. She did jump in a lake. So there was time for that. But no, just the little, the story
Starting point is 00:48:59 that I thought would have been the side story. and ended up being the main story. So the whole forest fire thing, like, took a back seat. And I just, I thought it was going to be the other way around. Like, basically, like, a survivalist movie. You got to make it through this burning forest. That's what I expected to. Yeah, that's not what it was.
Starting point is 00:49:21 Yeah, that one was kind of disappointing. And I completely forgot that I watched it until you guys just said something. Theo didn't sell it to me. I didn't even bother with it. He watched it. Was that right? You didn't like the little things? Nope.
Starting point is 00:49:38 Not all. Man. I don't know that I watched it. That movie was hell good. Not enough action for me. Too much digging. Aw. All right.
Starting point is 00:49:48 The Academy Award winners in that movie. Goal us a tour of review. It's Denzel. Denzel and, uh, yeah, Denzel's in. Jared. Ram and Malik. I did watch that.
Starting point is 00:50:02 I mean, Malick, Jared. Jared. Yeah. That was hell of good. I still got questions on that one. It's because it's awful. All right. Who's going first?
Starting point is 00:50:17 We're going to go around, Robin. Hold on. Oh, you got some. Yeah, I got two of them. A Quiet Place Part 2. Oh. You just, you just put, because you hate the first one. I hated the first one.
Starting point is 00:50:31 But I did like this one. I don't know what to do with you, guys. I did like this, but it's a dishonorable mention. Nas, that makes a lot of shit. Not a dishonorable mention, more of a runner-up or something, if some other things. But no, I mean, I hated that first one. That one was just, I don't know. I loved the theater part of it.
Starting point is 00:50:54 I know how quite everyone was. Right, right. But I didn't like what was going on in it. this one okay I like what I liked about this one is we saw more of the aliens we saw a little bit of the invasion and everything
Starting point is 00:51:11 and and I just I loved it I'm I thought it was I thought it was a really good film but just didn't make my list but didn't make your list for the top of the bottom top oh okay so I don't know I thought we were doing that but all right yeah that just
Starting point is 00:51:27 that's all I wanted to say oh okay I thought you were saying that was for the bottom Oh, right. For the bottom, no. I saw a lot of movies, but I do not remember bad ones. All right. We're going to go around Robin, like I said. And number 10, I started out.
Starting point is 00:51:47 It was on Pedro's last time, and it's on mine, and that's Hypnotic from Netflix. Still haven't seen that because of what Pedro said. You don't. It's the one with the... What's her name? Katie, Katie Siegel. She's like in all the Mike Flanagan's movies. Huh. Phil, you'll know her from the first The Haunting of Hill House.
Starting point is 00:52:11 She was the one that could, like, touch people and, like, see things. Yes. I feel like I probably watched it. And maybe something my wife watched and I walked in a few times. It's more of a thriller. She gets hypnotized and she starts doing things that she can't stop. stop herself from doing. Like, I've heard bad things. You're not the first person to tell me.
Starting point is 00:52:36 I give one scene away. She's cooking dinner. She's like kind of getting back with her boyfriend. She's cooking dinner. And she puts sesame oil into food. And he's allergic. But she doesn't. Just like the garlic.
Starting point is 00:52:50 Yeah, she doesn't remember doing it. And she doesn't. She's trying to figure out why. And then I guess basically this doctor, he does this to a lot of women. Oh, boy. Did you touch him? Put sesame oil in her, too? They allude to it.
Starting point is 00:53:06 Oh, yeah. He's a creeper. Kill him. But it's just for something that's supposed to be a suspense thriller, I just thought it was just kind of bland. She, and I really like her as an actress. Yeah. Because I thought she was great in that movie, Hush, where she played deaf. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:25 Oh, that was her. That's what you're talking about? Yeah. Yeah. I love that movie. That movie was good. Yeah. It just it's like she had nothing to do in a movie
Starting point is 00:53:34 It almost seemed like she didn't really want to do the movie and it came out in her acting So that that's my number 10 Bruce Willie style I don't have 10, but I'll give you the the few as we roll around Um escape room two I forgot about that one too I Shit I was hoping that would be better than the first it was better than the for it was better than the first one, but that was still like, eh, I think the first one just ruined me on, on what? Did it?
Starting point is 00:54:11 Yeah, so I was like, all right, well, maybe this one, the second one's better. Yeah, but the second one had so much CGI fire and so much fake electricity, the way electricity doesn't work, right? Yeah, yeah, they should have used real electricity. Yeah, but I don't know. It just I sat down And I was like All right
Starting point is 00:54:33 I'm just I wasn't like Okay this is gonna be better than the first one Yeah escape room Maybe not to some much huh Tournament of champions All right Yeah that one All right
Starting point is 00:54:47 Lance The Okay So I'll set it up this way When you've got a cast in a movie that's comprised of Oscar Isaac, Charlize Theron, Chloe Grace Moran's, Nick Kroll,
Starting point is 00:55:06 Bet Midler, Bill Hader, Snoop Dog, for fuck's sake. It's got to be a good movie, am I right? You would think. Yeah, unless it's called the Adams Family 2. It's like Adams Family Summer Vacation or something. This thing was fucking horrible. Did the animated one? The animated one.
Starting point is 00:55:26 It was absolutely terrible. The first one was really, really good, especially the first half of it. Boy, Nick Krull does a lot of voice work. He does a lot of voice work. Bet Midler shows up his grandma in this one, and even she couldn't save it. So I don't want to say much about this one. It's very forgettable. The first one I thought was really, really good, kind of silly, maybe in the third act,
Starting point is 00:55:51 but this one was just horrible start to finish. Adam's family, too. Who is Snoop, Doug? he was a cousin yeah yeah with his he's like speaking into a auto tuner or something
Starting point is 00:56:07 you can't tell it snoop dog until the end when he does the outro song but it's bad sounds great all right Phil okay so I'm gonna go
Starting point is 00:56:22 with slightly rearranging Nez what was your number I already forgot it. That's how shitty it was. Escape room, too. Yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:56:34 So my escape room is going to be my number 10. And I think a, yeah, I think an honorable mention is going to be red notice, which wasn't awful. It was the Netflix thing with the rock and. Oh, I just. Didn't see what was the need to spend 300 plus million dollars making it? Yeah. The rock. That's why.
Starting point is 00:57:05 It was, it was, it was not great. For, for what they put into it, it just wasn't awesome. It was completely forgettable, as was the escape room, obviously, since I forgot about it in the two minutes that we talked about it. You know, it was really forgettable is when Vince McMahon fucking showed up with that damn golden egg. Stupid. All right. My number nine. A little
Starting point is 00:57:33 low budget independent movie that made absolutely no sense. Burial Ground Massacre. And I did not know that, what is his name? Michael Madsen. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:57:50 He's Native American in this. Really? Yeah. What's this called? I bet to tell you about this one, Des Barrier Ground Massacre. He's the one doing the massacring or an ancient Native American artifact that he has to get for somebody that's paying him. He's got the feathers in the hair and he wears a mask. Mr. Blonde, come on.
Starting point is 00:58:20 Yeah. I mean. Stuck in the middle with you, Nez. it was pretty nerdy Why Now okay I could have graded this one A lot differently because it is
Starting point is 00:58:34 Low Budget And I can't hold it to the same You know Expectations as other movies Yeah standards thank you Lance But I think we're at a time where we don't Where we can use actual Native American actors I mean I know Michael
Starting point is 00:58:51 Madsen I'm pretty sure he comes cheap nowadays But I don't know And it wasn't even And when he's wearing the mask Oh I was thinking Mads Mikkelson Michael Madsen That doesn't make any sense at all
Starting point is 00:59:06 Yeah But the thing that really trips me out Is like when I look this movie out It's uh When he's doing an actual killing wearing the mask It's not even him He's just there for when he's not wearing a mask Or doing voiceovers
Starting point is 00:59:21 How the fuck old is that guy? He's like he's got to be 60 He can swing an axe, but I forgot the wrestler's name. He used to wrestle on Ring of Honor. There's no Ring of Honor no more, but they got a wrestler to, I guess, do all the killing part and wearing the mask. Okay. And I just, the kills weren't even too extravagant to where I was like, damn, Michael, he couldn't even do that. Well, it's not exactly an A-list actor at this point.
Starting point is 00:59:54 Yeah, but I'm looking it up. almost have to see this. It's about burial massacre. Yeah, they're already filming a sequel. It's probably on YouTube, actually. Does he have a New York
Starting point is 01:00:07 accent? He has his regular speaking voice. Does it sound Native American at all? Let me check YouTube and see if I can find burial ground massacre full movie. Go ahead, guys. You'll find a full trailer.
Starting point is 01:00:23 That's if? Okay. What the fuck is this? Just looking at the pictures is making me mad. Who the fuck is this idiot with the headdress on in the tomahawk? That's supposed to be him. It don't look like him. It looks like some other little young white kid.
Starting point is 01:00:44 Oh, boy. Oh, you mean a kid dancing around in a headdress? I'm just looking at pictures on IMDB and there's a kid dancing. Yeah, they're, you know, because they got to fuck with the fucking artifacts and shit. Yeah, because he was in a bedroom. Now I'm looking at a picture. He's dancing around a fire. And I see a red solo cup.
Starting point is 01:01:04 So you know that's drinking involved. Oh, that's one of the dumb-ass kids that ends up getting killed, I'm sure. All right. Well, I'm going to have to find this one. I can rent it for $4.99, guys. That ain't going to happen. Well, it's out there. It better be way out there.
Starting point is 01:01:20 I'm out. All right, that's number nine or whatever number you're on. The unholy. What the hell? hell is this. Paycheck. Okay, listen. I've got to say that's my number nine also,
Starting point is 01:01:34 but what happened in that movie? Because I don't know what it is. Yeah, I was not to say, what the hell is going on in this movie? He's only Negan now in my eyes, but that's the one. I was like, what, what's happening in this movie?
Starting point is 01:01:51 I mean, try not to be Negan when you're in another movie. Yeah. I mean, it, was it only in the theater because of him? I mean... Yeah, I think it came out in January. That's why.
Starting point is 01:02:03 Yeah. I did. I liked that one movie he did with the little... Was it the little music box? Oh. Was it the possession? Yeah. Oh, you talk about Negan?
Starting point is 01:02:15 Yeah. Yeah. I like that one. I mean, but... Yeah, this was one of those ones. Hold on the new horror movie. Let me watch it. No, I was like...
Starting point is 01:02:24 Really good. I didn't like it. I mean, nothing against him, man. He did what he was supposed to do. Yeah, and that stupid corn doll or whatever the fuck it was called, I mean, come on. Really? I don't know. What was it called?
Starting point is 01:02:39 A corn row doll or something like that? It was like, they buried. And he just happened to find the tree where it was buried. And just like too many coincidences in this movie for me. Dude, I don't even have any idea what happened. Like, these movies. Scenes that you guys are talking about, I don't remember at all. You guys cut it in this one?
Starting point is 01:03:00 No, no. No, but I've said it. No, but you're going to hear it again on another list. But I've said it before, and I'll say it again. This dude does not know how to play him as an actor anymore. He can only play himself as literal Negan. Every fucking role Jeffrey Dean Morgan is in, he's not Jeffrey Dean Morgan anymore. He's literally, he's fucking Negan.
Starting point is 01:03:24 And this was no exception. well and I don't hate that he's very charismatic but I you know that also happened to Polly shore so good luck this this ain't got nothing to do but Brian have you seen Till Death with Megan Fox yeah all right leave it alone all right I'll watch it we'll do a show on it okay no I'm on the list I'm on the website I'm looking at it unholy was the till death is right next to that I was that Megan Fox so oh yeah no that one wasn't bad Okay, I didn't see it. I didn't see it.
Starting point is 01:03:58 All right. It had Megan Fox, so I had to check it out. That was the only reason I watched it. That was worth watching. Watch that one with the lions or the tigers or whatever the hell they were when the... Oh, this is off subject, but we're getting a fucking actual real fucking lion horror movie. I'm just seen in the news from Idris with Idris Alba. Oh.
Starting point is 01:04:19 And Universal Studios. Okay. So I... I was hoping it's fucking not rogue. Idriselba has the world's worst, he's obviously got the worst agent of all time. Because this dude does some roles that, man, I'm like, I'm looking and I'm like, he is so much better than this. But you know what? I still love him and everything that he does.
Starting point is 01:04:45 I'm not what you're calling. That was terrible. I know. The Dark Tower. Yeah. But he was bad. He was bad. He was still good.
Starting point is 01:04:53 The movie. just wasn't. All right, Lance. Okay, my number nine is a sci-fi horror, thriller, adventure. Hopefully you guys missed it. I pray that you guys were lucky enough to miss
Starting point is 01:05:10 this one. It's called Voyagers. Anybody seen this one? With the Ready Player 1 kid? Ready Player 1, Colin Farrell and Johnny Depp's daughter. So it's a decent cast, but just a fucking in inanely
Starting point is 01:05:26 written story um johnny death daughter's a decent cast you know no she's pretty good she was in silent night yeah she was good in silent night
Starting point is 01:05:36 yeah she's got some skills but i think people think of her like when she what was that wasn't she in that uh Kevin Smith movie that moose knuckles
Starting point is 01:05:46 or they were supposed to do moose knuckles but they did yoga hoses boy it has been off the rails lately yeah yoga I think doing the rails
Starting point is 01:05:56 lately. I think people seeing her in yoga hosers and just kind of like, but the movies I've seen her in
Starting point is 01:06:02 lately, she's pretty good actress. All right. Johnny Depp. Lily Raid Daff or not Lily Raid Deb. There's an actress
Starting point is 01:06:11 name Lily Raid. Something. Lily Rose. Mm-hmm. Sounds right. I just saw on yoga hoses. Close enough.
Starting point is 01:06:23 All right. So Voyager. You see something else with her. just cut that movie out of your mind. All right. Voyager's bad. Yeah, I'm going to go to the unholy also.
Starting point is 01:06:35 And I had written it down. Well, yeah, well, that's what I was saying. I had written it down and then I realized I don't know what this movie is. You can't give it the worst because you don't get it enough to give it the worst. Well, I know, but I know that I watched it and I don't remember a thing about it. And I swear to God, that's not a good son. Listen, I got COVID right now, so I'm a little wacky. What?
Starting point is 01:07:02 But yeah. He got the coves, baby. You got the Rona? What, for real? Yeah, for real. Oh, man. But my symbolism is starting until today. So it's awesome.
Starting point is 01:07:18 But at least you got the vaccinated version of the coves, right? Well, that's true. It's not so bad. Like for me right now, it's just like really bad allergies and I'm kind of spacey. Which is, you know, not a whole lot different than normal anyway. Some people pay to get like that. I know. Shit.
Starting point is 01:07:41 But yeah, no, I swear to God I look this one up a couple hours before we started the show and was like, oh, yeah, this one. That's why I put it in the bottom. And then I forgot about it again. until Ned said something. I don't know what this movie is. So not memorable equals
Starting point is 01:08:03 definitely on the bottom for me. Because none of these were really awful until we get down to the last couple. All right. Moving on to number eight. Mine is another independent movie called
Starting point is 01:08:21 Bohemoth. Don't watch this movie. Don't watch it. Sounds familiar. It's about a father who he's trying to save his terminally ill daughter, and he'll do anything for it, even sell his soul to the devil. And the story is... I thought you were talking about that Aquaman movie there for a minute.
Starting point is 01:08:46 Oh. The story is nothing you haven't seen before. The acting is not good. and when you see like creatures from hell it is like the worst fucking CGI I don't even know what to call it It's worse than spawn Yes worse
Starting point is 01:09:08 Worse the raccoon welcome to raccoon city That would That's step up it's in between spawn and raccoon city Uh oh no It can't be in between spawns spons better Osh So Skip this one.
Starting point is 01:09:26 Who was in this? You didn't you spawn? Absolutely. I don't want to say nobody, but nobody you ever heard of. I'm looking at the cast list. I don't recognize anybody from anything. Okay.
Starting point is 01:09:42 Bahima. Yeah. Not a winner. All right, Nez. Paranormal activity next of kin. I tried to watch this in time. I missed it. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:57 Damn it. I didn't even. I didn't even. hate on this one so bad. I didn't even know they made it. When Mike and I were recording something, he was like, hey, did you watch this yet? I was like,
Starting point is 01:10:09 what? And it was on Paramount Plus. I'm like, well, shit I haven't. Might as well watch it. I like the end. Like the last couple minutes was off the wall. Awesome. But the whole buildup to this. I didn't even think this was a
Starting point is 01:10:29 found footage movie. Because it switches back and forth. Yeah, it went back and forth from like real steady cams to whatever they were filming. Yeah, my problem with it is we already know what the series is about,
Starting point is 01:10:45 even if it's a completely new story, so there shouldn't have been so much build up. Right. Yeah, it shouldn't have been maybe just the reason they only put it out is because you threw paranormal activity in front of it.
Starting point is 01:11:02 And then if this is supposed to restart it with something totally different, I don't think this was the way to do it. But I don't know. It just, it was like, come on. I was like, show something. Let something happen in this. It was just too much buildup. And then when it got to the end, which again, was awesome.
Starting point is 01:11:27 And it was over. And I was like, that's it? And I was like, oh. So I was, I did like all the other ones. But this one, to be a completest, I guess I have to put it in my library with the next to the rest of them. But what was the last one? The ghost dimension. Oh, yeah, that was bad.
Starting point is 01:11:53 They were getting chased by the dark cloud. Yeah. Did you see it in 3D? I think so. I did. I thought the 3D was awesome. The 3D was actually pretty cool. Yeah, it was. Brian, you can check that out.
Starting point is 01:12:08 You got the VR thing. They have it on. Broan. So, but this, I mean, this one, it was just too much buildup of nothing. I mean, I liked what was happening. I liked that she found out that she was a part of this, I don't know if they were Amish or whatever.
Starting point is 01:12:28 whatever the hell they were. But I just... It's a homage, so? It just didn't. It didn't. It didn't keep me. I was like, oh, come on. I was looking on my phone.
Starting point is 01:12:40 Get up, go get a new drink. Make popcorn. Come back. Nothing's happening. I was just like, ah, but... I did rewatch that ending a few times. I thought that ending was awesome. But this...
Starting point is 01:12:51 Yeah, not awesome enough to put in a good list. But yeah, Paranormal activity. of can. If you have Paramount Plus, it's on there. But yeah, watch it if you want. That's not a good endorsement when you're getting up from a movie and
Starting point is 01:13:10 you're not even worried about pausing it. Yeah. That's like the really good movies in the theater, I'm like, man, I really got to pee, but I don't want to get up. Don't want to have to go to the bathroom. God damn it. Yeah. All right, Lance.
Starting point is 01:13:27 We're on number eight. I remember something, yep. Okay, Brian, it made the list. Because you forced it in there. No, I did not have to force it at all. It made the list. CGI fire and phony elect... Let me put it to you this way.
Starting point is 01:13:46 Some of the special effects in this movie were worse than... What was that movie that we saw with the... God damn it, the blonde dude that was the sorcerer or whatever? and he had the lightning bolts come out of his hands, the 80s movie. Thor? I'm dying here. What was it?
Starting point is 01:14:09 Flash Gordon. What are we talking about? Sure, sure. Sure. Any of the above, man. I'm going to think of what it was, but no, this was really bad, really bad.
Starting point is 01:14:22 And then a couple of the rooms were kind of neat. Like, you know, you had the beach, room and stuff like that. It was kind of interesting to see. But then when they had that stupid fucking acid rain in that one scene where the people were trying to get into a cab and a fake New York City and then you get a fake
Starting point is 01:14:39 police station and nah, too much for me to take, man. Escape room too makes the list, Brian, sorry. So fake fire and fake electricity and you were mad that the New York looking
Starting point is 01:14:55 room was not actually New York. Very, very mad. Very mad. I don't accept it, but okay, we'll go with it. I think you squeezed it in there. The movie I'm thinking
Starting point is 01:15:11 of has Julian Sands in it. Somebody helped me out of here. It's like an evil magician. Warlock? Warlock. Warlock. That was good. What are you talking about? I don't know about the rest of them. I'm talking about the special effects, man. That's 90. What do you expect? Yeah, no, no. I'm not. I'm
Starting point is 01:15:27 actually on your side on this one. I'm saying the special effects in Warlock were better than the SFX in Escape Room 2. Oh, your question. I don't know about that, but okay, Phil. Fake fire. Big, big deal.
Starting point is 01:15:45 All right, what am I going to? Seven? Eight. Eight. We still on eight. All right. Eight is going to be awake. I think it was on Netflix. You didn't like that one? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:15:59 I didn't not. That's what that's like animal sanders. I don't know. That's why it was kind of so high on the list. Like, I didn't hate it, but I kind of. Oh. They have to stay awake because they can't fall asleep. Oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:16:20 I don't even remember this movie. I, okay. That was kind of the problem. I know that I watched it. I like that. I just don't really remember. it. I thought it was better than
Starting point is 01:16:30 fucking bird box. Really? Was this movie 2021? Because I literally forgot it. Yeah, it came out this year, or last year. I thought it was good. I thought it was better in bird box.
Starting point is 01:16:42 Just kind of the same premise. I definitely can't get on board with that. Bird box is great. Bird box was shit. Nah. But this one,
Starting point is 01:16:55 it wasn't terrible. it really wasn't I was just kind of struggling to find the bottom 10 for this year to be honest with you there's there's not a whole lot of really shit movies like even my bottom number one movie I kind of liked on a level so this ends up on it I just thought it wasn't like they could have done a lot more creative things with it and they didn't and it was kind of boring and I forgot about it that's that's going to be a running theme on my list all right number seven for me is going to be
Starting point is 01:17:37 where is it there's my son uh Simon Barrett's uh seance my problem with this movie is it didn't know if it wanted to be a supernatural movie or a slasher I just got to the point in a movie where I was just kind of like pick one I don't even know what that is
Starting point is 01:17:58 I haven't seen it. It's on Shutter, I think. Okay. It has a decent cast of young ladies I've seen before. Suki Waterhouse, Madison Bady. She was one of the crazy girls from Once Upon a Time in a Hollywood, Quint Tarantino movie. One of the men's girls. Okay, all right, all right. A lot of the young actresses, like you've seen them before.
Starting point is 01:18:24 and it takes place at like one of them private girls schools boarding schools or whatever and a death happened there and then they think
Starting point is 01:18:36 everything's being haunted but then it turns into this completely other movie and it just kind of seemed like confused to me so that's my number seven okay
Starting point is 01:18:48 best um what the hell was this one Oh Things heard And things heard and seen Oh That's my next one
Starting point is 01:19:03 I've heard bad things I've heard bad things I only watched it Because I love What hell's her name Amanda Syfried Karen Smith From mean girls
Starting point is 01:19:16 Her breasts Her breasts tell the weather Yeah She's got ESPN her. That's right. I'm going to take that off my list right now. And, and Cobra Guy. Oh, man. This I only watched her movies because of her. And I'm hoping maybe something will be good. There has been. I'm not saying every movie she's in is bad. But I figured Netflix would
Starting point is 01:19:47 threw a little bit more money into it. I don't know. This story, it just moved along too slow. I was kind of like what's happening? What's going on in the world of Facebook? And I was looking up my phone. I was like, oh, but yeah, I don't know. I was, I love
Starting point is 01:20:09 her. I was the only reason I watched this film and I just didn't really care for it. It's Yeah. Yeah. If you guys want to watch it, go for it, but it, yeah, yeah. Things heard and seen. I'm taking it off my Netflix.
Starting point is 01:20:25 execute right now. I know you won't like it. But then again, I don't know. You liked Pet Cemetery, so. Yeah. You never know. You never know. All right, Lance.
Starting point is 01:20:40 Okay, so we're going with number seven here. I've got a, I'm so excited. During my 31 days of Halloween with a granddaughter, I said, man, this is my favorite attraction at Disney World. We can't really go to Disney World right now.
Starting point is 01:20:56 because of the pandemic and how expensive everything is to travel and all this other shit going on. So I can't take her to the actual haunted mansion. But it's my two favorite things combined. It's Disney World's Haunted Mansion Ride and the Muppets. What could go wrong? A lot. This is fucking horrible.
Starting point is 01:21:15 Have you guys seen this on Disney Plus? Nope. Yeah. Avoid it at all costs. This is like hammy, over-the-top acting. It's just an. absolute advertisement for Disney and Disney World and the ride, which I don't mind if the movie's
Starting point is 01:21:33 good, like some of the Pirates of the Caribbean movies and stuff like that, but this was just trash. Absolute trash. And I think there were only like three fucking Muppets in it. It didn't even have Kermit, Miss Piggy, or anybody, so fuck this movie. What's it called? Muppets Haunted Mansion. It's on Disney Plus right now. It ain't the Muppets, that's why.
Starting point is 01:21:54 Yeah, it's not the real Muppets, man. Not My Muppets. Yeah, hashtag not my Muppets. They all sound wrong. That's right. They all sound wrong. All right, Phil. All right.
Starting point is 01:22:08 What are we on? Seven? Yep. I'm going to go old. I know. That's number seven? Yeah. Wow, that's on a lot of people's.
Starting point is 01:22:24 That is on a lot of people's worst of live. man. Yeah. It just... This is a divisive, divisive movie. It was disappointing to me. Ooh. Oh, man. Yeah. Like, again... Was it the acting? It was just... The whole thing. I don't think it was necessarily the acting. It was just the... Right. Nothing really fucking happened.
Starting point is 01:22:51 I could see if you were mad about the acting, because it kind of had that killing of a sacred deer type thing where they talk real... stilted and kind of weird. Yeah. What do you mean, Lance? That's true. What I'm talking about, Ryan? I don't know.
Starting point is 01:23:06 It's not like I re-watched it. I just was looking through movies and went, yeah, this movie is I think towards the bottom of movies that I liked this year. And I was pretty disappointed with it.
Starting point is 01:23:23 Fair enough. I didn't hate it, but that will be the story to a lot of the movies that are on my list this year so right until we get down to the last couple few which are awful and people are really going to hate me for wait till we get to number two maybe maybe no
Starting point is 01:23:45 all right number six for me was nez's seven things heard and seen skip it okay I only watched it off went yeah I only watch I only watched it because she was in it. I like her as actress,
Starting point is 01:24:03 but it's kind of seems like she's just taking a paycheck now. This was worse, Lance, than that one she did with Kevin Bacon. Oh, that's bad. Oh, God.
Starting point is 01:24:17 Ness? Um, I lost my list. The computer's acting. My computer is acting. Anything. Anything with Nagan? Okay, I already talked about paranormal activity or someone in the house.
Starting point is 01:24:40 Do you want to come back, Fred? We did. Yeah, come back. I had my list on my computer, but then it froze. And I don't, oh, I'm sorry, the conjuring. The devil made me do it. Oh, I agree. I agree.
Starting point is 01:24:54 Are you copying my list or something? Disappoint. Because that's my next one. I was excited for it. And because I loved the first two. I don't love the whole Conjuring universe, but I figured, all right, man, we're getting another. The Conjury movies won't let me down.
Starting point is 01:25:13 It let me down. Yeah, I can see that. I don't know. It was just, I don't know, it seemed like a big cash grab. It just didn't. It did. They didn't really think. I got to say, though, after rewatching it,
Starting point is 01:25:31 it's not as bad as you probably thought it was. It just is not up to expectations as far as conjuring goes. Yeah, I just watched it once, so maybe I need to rewatch. I haven't bought it yet. Of course, I'm going to. I got all the other. I got all the whole conjuring universe, and I didn't like all of them. But I don't know.
Starting point is 01:25:53 I was excited for it. The whole premise of it all, the devil made me do it. I was like, all, this is going to be sweet. and then we got what we got and I was kind of like I'm glad I didn't sit in the theater and I didn't see this I watched it at home but
Starting point is 01:26:07 I was kind of like that's it really I get it I get it I just I mean I'll give it I'll give it another shot everyone I mean but as of now it just didn't
Starting point is 01:26:20 it didn't it didn't grab it like the first one I left the theater like fucking that was scary as hell and then second one too that one was scary two and everything. And then this one, I was like, okay, I'm ready. James Juan, you let me down with all these other movies
Starting point is 01:26:34 you're a part of, and you're not directing this, but let's see. And I was kind of like, is it because he didn't direct it? I don't know, but I don't know. I just, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't scared. I wasn't scared after it.
Starting point is 01:26:52 To be fair, I did, yeah, it definitely wasn't as scary. And, uh, and, and, and I did. in our little conjuring movie madness night that we had on going on I did sort of phase out during this one and got up and started doing stuff so can't be too mad at you it's definitely not as good as first two yeah yeah the conjuring the devil made me do it yeah all right is it to me yep okay A little movie that I watched Not too long ago, but most recently Of all my hated movies, I think And it's a Hulu film called The Resort.
Starting point is 01:27:43 Have you guys seen this? Yeah, I did see that. I'm gonna sum up my... Yeah, I'm gonna sum up my hatred For this movie in one scene. So you get these four stupid fucking people Doing stupid fucking things They're these more dumb kids
Starting point is 01:27:59 That are like have a YouTube channel or something where they check out haunted shit and they got to a haunted hotel that they get on an island that nobody else can get to. The boat leaves at seven. For some reason they think they can leave the fucking hotel at 645 and get to the boat in time
Starting point is 01:28:15 otherwise they have to wait a week for the next boat. But the one scene that killed me was when these two super hot chicks and these two goofy guys and the super hot chicks say hey, let's get in the water and let's skinny dip, take all our clothes off.
Starting point is 01:28:31 and then you hear that music pop, b'b, bough, bough. The only thing you see is the one goofy guy's ass. He, like, fucking pulls his pants down, and they show a bleached white ass. And then they go over to the chicks. You want to see more of the goofy white guys? You know what?
Starting point is 01:28:46 Well, you know what? They show the two chicks and they're getting their fucking swimsuits. They don't even skinny dip. They're like, ha, ha. We made the guys take off their clothes. And we're jumping at our swimsuits. suits. This thing was fucking inane. Why are you guys sword fighting?
Starting point is 01:29:07 I'll tell you this. There was no action until the last five minutes either. What did you think, Brian? I don't think I've seen this movie now. It's bad. It's bad. I think I've seen a different resort movie. I don't remember. Yeah. Don't waste your time.
Starting point is 01:29:23 Don't waste your time. Yeah, I saw it. It was we watched it at work. It was terrible. I mean, I wish I should have just recorded everybody. Right. Everybody in the regular was like, what the fuck? And we watched the whole movie.
Starting point is 01:29:41 We watched the whole movie, but we like tore it apart through the whole time. Oh, yeah. Yeah, the ending was all right. But yeah, just whatever, the resort. All right, Phil. Okay. Warning, the next few are not going to be horror. Uh, because I didn't see that many movies this year.
Starting point is 01:30:01 Uh, but six is going to be Cruella. Um, actually not that bad of a movie, but to try to sympathize with the person who skins dogs. Yeah, no shit. Tough. That's kind of silly. Kind of silly. You don't have to make every bad guy sympathetic. Sometimes they're just bad guys.
Starting point is 01:30:28 That was. my takeaway too. I don't know, according to Hawkeye and coffee mugs and stickers on walls, Thanos was right. Well, see, that's what I'm saying. Like, I
Starting point is 01:30:42 I mean, you can sympathize with every bad guy, but that's probably not a good way to go about life. Yeah. I do want one of those coffee mugs, you know? I mean, you know, every once in a while, after the traffic jam
Starting point is 01:30:59 you're like you know what but that's mine all right we at six yeah the conjuring the devil maybe do it I
Starting point is 01:31:15 should have went in with low expectations because James one I knew he wasn't directing it the guy directed it directed the curse of Lila Rona which I didn't not like, so I was a little worried about it. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:32 See, I still, for some reason, was under the impression that he directed this. Fucking James Wan. He gets you every time. And there's a certain aspect of the movie I thought we were going to get. I thought we were going to get a little kind of courtroom drama in there. Yeah. The trailer sells you on it. Yeah, I don't know if I'm saying the line right, but Patrick Wilson said,
Starting point is 01:31:56 you can't handle the truth. Something like that. You guys swear on a Bible in court to tell the truth, what you guys laugh at the existence of the devil. Right. They only had that in the trailer. That's a good point. Nothing near that in the movie.
Starting point is 01:32:12 And I just kind of thought that would have kind of brought a different aspect of the movie. But I didn't get it. So, glad it was on HBO Max and I didn't have to pay for it. Yeah. Nez. I'm trying to Still trying to find my Lids Conjuring just popped in my head
Starting point is 01:32:34 There was Oh to step away from horror for a minute What? Hold on everyone What? I love you too I love you Shadow in the cloud
Starting point is 01:32:51 Did you guys see that? I like that movie That's great I didn't like it I love hit girl. I love Chloe and Grace Morett's, but I just, I didn't, I didn't like it. It was, it was just a little too slow for me. Some weird movies.
Starting point is 01:33:09 I agree. I agree. I don't know. I thought it was, I thought it was fun. I, I didn't, I, I didn't know nothing about the movie. And when I just watched it, I just, I just kind of had fun with it. It's fucking stupid and didn't take it too serious. I like her as an actress.
Starting point is 01:33:30 Right. Yeah. I just think sometimes she chooses. I was just disappointed with this. Yeah. For sure. Lance. Are we on number five now?
Starting point is 01:33:44 Six. Oh, six. The resort was six for me. I did. No, no, I think we're on five. Adams family to Voyagers, Escape Room 2. Okay, you're right.
Starting point is 01:33:57 You're right. You're right. the resort. Okay. My number five is a little movie called Don't Breathe 2. Talk about making Corella into somebody you could sympathize with. Fuck, this asshole.
Starting point is 01:34:12 Fuck you. No. Yeah. I'm not buying it. Yeah. Don't breathe. He sucked. He turkey-based in women in the first one and then he's spoiler. Steals a child in the second one. I can't get behind you guy.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Right. I'm not a good look. I'm not into it. Don't Breathe 2 was horrible. The binge guys fucking ruined that character for me. Did they? Normie Nordstrom or whatever the fuck his name was? Right, right, right, right. This guy has a name.
Starting point is 01:34:43 He's not the blind man no more. He's fucking Norm Nordstrom. That's his name. Took the whole mystique away from me. Not a great bad guy name. That was not going to skip. All right. I'm going to go snake eyes for number five.
Starting point is 01:35:02 Oh, I like that one too. Oh, no. Yeah, I mean, I guess it was maybe leading up to something. I just wish that the movie was the movie after this one. Is you back? Yeah, I'm back. It's my turn. Phil doesn't like snake eyes.
Starting point is 01:35:20 What? Yeah. All right. Hashtag not my snake eyes, but I did like the movie. Like, again, this one wasn't terrible, but like, I wish that this movie was the movie that's going to come out after this one, hopefully. Hmm. For those you that don't know the history of Snake Eyes, this is not the origin story. Right.
Starting point is 01:35:47 Snake Eyes is not an Asian gentleman. He is a Caucasian, and nothing against the guys that were the guy that played him. I thought he did a really good job. I wish this movie was rated R. Because then it would have been a lot more. But I thought for what it was, I knew it wasn't going to be the true origin story because just from the trailers and everything.
Starting point is 01:36:11 And I'm just going to be all right, I'm already in that mindset. Let me just go in there and accept it for what they're going to give me. And I thought they did a good job as far as fighting and all of that. Well, and I could have just as easily replaced this movie with Mortal Kombat. Which was still fun, but it wasn't the movie that I wanted it to be.
Starting point is 01:36:40 See, like me, I left movies like that off my list, off of any list because they were just stupid fun. Yeah, well, that's part of my problem is I haven't seen a lot of really shitty movies this year. Because usually if you guys don't be there awful. That's more shitty movies, Phil. I don't even watch them. All right. What are we on number four? Yeah.
Starting point is 01:37:04 This one came out early. Did you already do your five? Yeah. Okay. This one came out early 2021. It's from director Alex Aja, who did The Hills Have Eyes and Pirata 3D. This one's called Oxygen. Oh, that wasn't that bad.
Starting point is 01:37:27 to me that was more of a man I don't want to see a lady trapped in a fucking sleep pod losing oxygen trying to remember was I married was I not
Starting point is 01:37:39 what am I going to do flashback go back to this what am I going to do flashback oh I remember who I'm supposed to be oh I'm losing air right
Starting point is 01:37:51 yeah I mean when you see Alex Alex Aja's name. Yeah. I was like, okay, cool. I mean, I'm expecting awesome
Starting point is 01:38:02 Gore, graphic gore, and everything. Didn't get that. No. I was like, well, I mean, I guess every movie you direct can't be that. I mean, but, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:16 Give me another pirata Triple D or, I don't know. Oh, that one was no. I did like that one, but make that. He didn't like it. the piranha swam out of the lady the guy of the dick
Starting point is 01:38:30 the one that was at the water park no and Ving Rames and his robot legs? No Dick Piranha. That was horrible, but yeah, oxygen, I didn't I had, I sat down like
Starting point is 01:38:49 clicked play and I was ready and I went What is this? I don't know, you every movie you may can't be winner so but maybe he's just going a different direction all right niz you're number four all right this is the one uh getting away from horror again i forgot about oxygen so but did i don't want to throw that on the list but uh this one he was the hb o max uh i'm not all that big into the nba i'm i watch when i can i guess but
Starting point is 01:39:23 I did enjoy the original one with MJ, but King James Oh no, I know what you're getting to say. I don't understand how this is so high on your list. I don't like any of the space jail movies, so I'm okay with this. No, I'm, I was just trying to stick to horror, but I'm throwing in some regular movies. No, throw it in there, throw it in, it deserves it. It deserves all the hate, all the hate it can get.
Starting point is 01:39:50 Yep. I had to watch it three fucking times with the grandkids. kids. Oh, Lance, you had to watch it. I did. Yeah, I had to. My grandson wanted to watch. The third time, Lance, the kids wasn't even there. Once McDonald's got involved with the Happy Meal toys or whatever one. Oh, boy. He wanted to see what it was. I said, okay, here, let me just turn on. I've got some stupid LeBron James toys sitting in front of me. Yeah, see? All right. I don't know. What was the toy that everyone was stealing his head. There was some toy going around, and everyone was stealing the bronze head. But anyway.
Starting point is 01:40:30 No idea. Probably the one I got a second. Theo could tell you. Theo can tell you. I think my son was one that told me about it. But anyway, okay, this is what I did like about it, but I just hated the whole thing. I thought the effects and everything was good. I liked
Starting point is 01:40:48 death of the CGI was cool. I thought the interaction with the CGI characters and the live action characters. I thought it, yes, it was a little bit better than the original space jam, but
Starting point is 01:41:05 I love Michael Jordan, so nothing against King James and what he can do on the court. I just don't like his attitude. Yeah, but did this need to be made? No. But it's space jam for this generation.
Starting point is 01:41:22 And LeBron does have his faithful following, so I'm sure they all swarmed to the theater, if they did brave the theater, to see this. But I just, I did not like it. Theo was all about it. He was like, oh, yeah, you got to watch it, because you guys know Theo. He's, he's, he's the NBA guy. He loves, he loves basketball. It's probably his favorite sports. It was LeBron. It wasn't Steph Curry. I don't know. But it's just, yeah, Space Jam, New Legger. legacy and that's what it was it was new for all you know you new jacks but how i was like i was sitting there i was a pre i was looking more in the background of everything i wasn't focusing
Starting point is 01:42:05 on lebron and and all the uh the luni tunes that don't sound right but i was just it was what it was i got through pretty much the whole movie but there was times and i was like why what's going on in this i mean my grandson these three years old he was into it. He pulled out his basketball and he was making hoops and his little rim thing and all that, but I was just like, oh, my God. I mean, I couldn't
Starting point is 01:42:33 imagine sitting in the theater trying to watch this movie. Yeah. Because I would have just fell asleep. I just reclined and wake me up when it's over. I would have just paid for a nap. But yeah, Space Jam legacy. Nah. Hashtag not my space
Starting point is 01:42:49 jam. Fair enough. Lance. Okay, number four, a little movie called F9. Anytime you've gotten to the point where you've got a car that you can fix up to literally orbit the planet and go up into space, you've officially jumped the shark, especially when you're like using duct tape to keep your helmets together and shit like that. So this piece of everything. Absolute piece of shit. F9, fuck you, John Cena. I can't see you.
Starting point is 01:43:22 I don't want to see you anymore. in this movie. Watch it. John Sina Slanders okay on this show. He brought back economics for a second. Went back to his movie star haircut. My number
Starting point is 01:43:44 four is going to be Thunder Force. Ooh. I like, and I, I, I, like both the women that are in this movie and this should have been better than it was and it wasn't.
Starting point is 01:44:00 I don't think you'll get any argument here. Yeah. All right. Number three, it's already been brought up. The Unholy. Not going to give this movie any more time. So, Nez.
Starting point is 01:44:17 Wait, which one again? The Unholy. I know. I'm kidding. Um I'm trying to think I still can't I lost my list on my computer completely. It just
Starting point is 01:44:32 No! It just shut down. Come back around. I'll find it. Lance is gone. All right. I'll go. Venom. I wish Lance was here. Venom. Let there be carnage.
Starting point is 01:44:52 Fucking garbage. watching it a second time was painful the first time I was like all right I guess I at least had a little fun with it it was kind of funny but it wasn't
Starting point is 01:45:06 it shouldn't have been and it was stupid yeah garbage Lance number three the unholy talked about before
Starting point is 01:45:17 move on Negan fuck you oh what you would call we already talked about it I just saw it The guy that's blind Don't breathe two
Starting point is 01:45:29 Yeah There you go Yeah that was on my list Yeah That's a bad one Yeah yeah All right All right
Starting point is 01:45:37 Number two for me Is paranormal activity Next of kin Oh Ouch Fast forward it To the last 20 minutes
Starting point is 01:45:45 And you'll be golden All right Nez I go I'll go back to F9 Yeah What was that? that.
Starting point is 01:45:55 I did like the beginning, though, when they were swinging the cars on the cables. Nah. Just end it. Come on. I mean, uh, whatever. Fast and furious. Lance.
Starting point is 01:46:14 And number two. Oh, wait. We're already around again? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. My number two is what do you do when you have a sharp movie and the dialogue is so bad and the acting is so bad and everything? that's horrible.
Starting point is 01:46:27 At the end... You do a commentary. The good... No, the good thing about the shark movie is that the two women are rescued. Or they're...
Starting point is 01:46:37 Well, they survive. But they're stranded on a desert island, so they're going to dive starvation and thirst anyway. So Great White was fucking horrible. Really bad.
Starting point is 01:46:49 Really bad. I hope it's on somebody else's list. I don't even know what the fuck that is. It's on you. I forgot about that one. My number two, the one that may make some people mad, is amusement park. The late great George Romero. Totally forgot about that movie.
Starting point is 01:47:08 I still haven't seen that yet. I still will tell you you don't have to see that movie. Yeah, it's pretty bad. Like, I get the point that he was trying to make. It just wasn't a good one. So there's that. All right. Right. My number one
Starting point is 01:47:28 worst movie of the year was such a disappointment to me because I love the director's work. And it's Neil Blomkin. No, Studios. Demonic. No. Demonic. I forgot about that one. I did too. I was rolling with it, just hoping for it to get better. And then when it showed you that the Vatican had like a special black ops team, I was like, okay, this is going to turn
Starting point is 01:47:56 into a fucking action movie and then it cuts to the next scene and they're all fucking dead and you need to see it. Fuck this movie. I bet the Vatican does have a black off's team. I'm sure they do.
Starting point is 01:48:12 They have that. They have a vampire hunting team like in John Carpenter's vampire hunters. Oh yeah. They have all that. The older of all the world's information, all that shit that burned
Starting point is 01:48:23 in the Library of Alexandria. I bet you they have. it there. Of course. Just as number one. All right. This fucking piece of shit. It was action adventure and they threw in horror. No
Starting point is 01:48:38 horror at all. The first one wasn't even horror and I hated that one too. Nothing against everybody that was in it. They did what they had to do. But come on, Sony. What the fuck are you guys doing to my childhood? This is Venom. Let there be carnage.
Starting point is 01:48:55 This movie was fucking terrible. Yeah. The first one was fucking too was bad. This, oh, I don't know what the fuck they're trying to do. The first one made money and they just ran in that
Starting point is 01:49:10 direction. Yeah, yeah. This one made money too, man. Everybody was excited. You guys should have seen this already. I mean, of course if you saw Spider-Man, the new one of him popping up at the end and then the credit scene when Venna or Eddie
Starting point is 01:49:26 it sees Spider-Man when fucking some for some reason the symbiot can he goes
Starting point is 01:49:35 oh there's something we can do and I didn't tell you about this but then you get up this warp and I'm like
Starting point is 01:49:41 oh what the fuck you guys trying to do horrible horrible then we see Spider-Man and that was a
Starting point is 01:49:46 big thing but it did get a big pop in the theater because all those little kids in there
Starting point is 01:49:50 went they all went nuts I was the only one and I was like give me a fucking break
Starting point is 01:49:55 and I was like, oh, but this hashtag not my venom and hashtag not my carnage. Venom doesn't sing the I say tomato
Starting point is 01:50:10 you say tomato song. What the fuck? This was nothing but a big comedy comedy film. At least he doesn't have to be in the MCU. Really? Well, part of him is
Starting point is 01:50:25 I hope not the part that sings tomato tomato I don't know I just I think the way everything is going on what happened in the last Spider-R movie I if they don't bring him back because I don't know I don't think Tom Hardy wants to
Starting point is 01:50:44 do go forward with it but I don't know man just throwing that big check at you he's going to throw a lot of money at him but I love Tom Hardy I love Woody Harrelson, but they just didn't do it. Yeah, Woody
Starting point is 01:51:01 disappointed me. It didn't go well together. Yeah, Woody disappointed me a lot in this movie. And bringing in Shriek, I mean, that's why I always have problems with these movies, with these comic book movies. They try to bring in too many bad guys.
Starting point is 01:51:17 Just focus in on one. It was way, way too early to bring in carnage. I thought that was stupid and how they did bring carnage until it was dumb and just I don't know this movie was terrible my son enjoyed it but I haven't handed him
Starting point is 01:51:34 the book yet because when when those first Spider-Man movies came out the Toby McGuire ones I remember watching I'm going okay they are what they are and I told my son I'm like look here you want Spider-Man here read this and then I hand the books and then when the
Starting point is 01:51:50 Vennem came out here read this or the black symbiote suit here, read this, read this, then read this. And I'm like, ah, and I say this over and over with these comic book movies. The fucking source material is right in front of you. Walk to any comic book store. Go online and you can download it and read it. And it's like they just say, okay, here, you're going to be in charge of this movie.
Starting point is 01:52:16 Here's the characters. This is what's going on. Do whatever you want. And people are going to love it. No, you're not. You're going to get old fucking grandpa. like me to come on here and just tear this fucking movie apart. Effects-wise, I thought it was cool.
Starting point is 01:52:31 I liked how Venom looked. I liked how Carners looked. But it just was, it was a huge mess. I was just like, ah, what are you guys doing with these characters? And then, is he dead or isn't he? I don't know. But I'll have to re-watch it again. Do I have it in my library?
Starting point is 01:52:48 Of course I do. The steel book is right here. I haven't even even even unwrapped it yet. But, oh, my God. God, I knew I wasn't going to like it because what I was hoping was at least be better than the first one. I already know what we got. And I could say, yeah, that was probably an up side of it. It was better than the first one.
Starting point is 01:53:11 But it just still was a huge mess. And trying to get him into the MCU, which I'm glad they didn't. Because if you guys saw Spider-Man, then you got zapped back to his realm. but I don't know I mean Are we ever going to get the sequel Wars? I don't know
Starting point is 01:53:30 But I don't know This shit is fucking killing me Yeah Venom let there be carnage Bullshit Lance You said it dude Demonic
Starting point is 01:53:42 What a disappointment I expected So much more from this movie So are you going to give us your number one Demonic Oh That was number one Great White was number two
Starting point is 01:53:57 Demonic was number one Yeah Okay So Number one I'm gonna go Space Jam Was just straight trash
Starting point is 01:54:13 And I don't think There's really anything That needs to be said about that If you want to argue That space jam Wasn't garbage Then Talk to the wall
Starting point is 01:54:22 Because I don't want to hear Okay All right, moving on to our best of the year. I'll start it off. I'm going to read my honorable mentions. I'm going to just do it real quick because I got a lot of them. So there was a lot of good movies this year.
Starting point is 01:54:42 Censor, Canditia, which is on Shutter. Night Teeth actually surprised me. That was on Netflix. VHS 94. Nez, we need to redo that episode. Shout out to Corey Hing. Yep. Super host on Shutter, Awake on Netflix.
Starting point is 01:55:00 The Fair Street Trilogy on Netflix. Queen of the Black Magic. That's on Shutter. The Viguel, we need to do something. The Boy Behind Door, The Gin, Son, and Silent Night almost snuck into my top ten. I was going to. That's a good list, man.
Starting point is 01:55:19 But my top ten, I had to give it to a movie that gave me what I want. I know this movie was kind of divisive a little bit, but it gave me what I wanted in the name. It's in the name, Halloween kills, because that guy fucking killed everybody. That's my number 10. A lot of people loved it. Yes.
Starting point is 01:55:44 We can do the round thing or just read our list? We can do the round thing, just go quickly. All right. 10, Psycho Gorman. Awesome film. Don't need to say anymore. Nice big. Nice big. Great fucking movie.
Starting point is 01:55:56 Just had to make sure I had it on my list. Lance. My number 10 was one that surprised me quite a bit because it was kind of a smaller release. A little movie called Black as Night. Vampir movie in New Orleans. With Keith David. Yeah. What can go wrong?
Starting point is 01:56:17 You got vampires, you got New Orleans, and you got the inimitable Keith David. So, they threw in some messages in there too. Well, yeah, it was a super serious movie. It was not what I was expecting. I really thought it was going to be silly. Wasn't it like one of those Hulu? It wasn't into the dark, right?
Starting point is 01:56:37 It was the Amazon. Yeah, that was on Amazon Prime. Okay. But it was a welcome to the Blumhouse film, right? Yep. Yep, I was very pleasantly surprised with this one. Made the top 10. All right, Phil.
Starting point is 01:56:54 All right. I have some honorable mentions first. The first one is going to be controversial. Wrong turn. I like that movie. Prisoners of... Yeah. Prisoners...
Starting point is 01:57:06 Pedro didn't like it. I know. Prisoners of the ghostland. Craziness. But couldn't make it in the top ten. Yeah. Jacobs. I thought was really good.
Starting point is 01:57:24 That was a good one. Good one. Justice League, great movie. The Green Knight, classic. Huh. And let's see. Shang Chi makes it in there
Starting point is 01:57:37 as an honorable mention. Right. I just kind of wrote down all my, all my really awesome movies. A Quiet Place, too, which I actually did really like. I thought it was a great movie.
Starting point is 01:57:49 The Vigil, Fear Street, 1994 and Werewolves Within Damn And I think my last Honorable Mission has to be Last Night in Soho
Starting point is 01:58:00 I don't know how it didn't make the list But it didn't Okay And number 10 is going to be Willie's Wonderland Hell yeah That was classic cage All right
Starting point is 01:58:15 My number nine is Malignant And all I got to say It's just the jailhouse scene Yep That's all you need to know right? Yep.
Starting point is 01:58:24 Des. Spiral. That's where I'm going. I liked it. Spiral. I thought it was a cool movie. Yeah. Good take on it.
Starting point is 01:58:33 Yeah, that was the movie that got me back into the movie theaters. So I liked it. I picked them steel book too. I thought Chris Rock did a good job in what he was supposed to do. So I love this movie. Spiral. My number nine. All right.
Starting point is 01:58:48 Lance. My number nine is a little indie Canadian. movie about killer jeans. It's called Slacks. I heard good things. I really loved it. I can't agree with you on that one. I thought it was totally
Starting point is 01:59:05 silly. It was exactly what I thought it was going to be. Kind of like that movie about the killer tire, what was that called rubber? Yeah, it's kind of like that, but at least it had a little bit of a story behind it. And the characters... You know me, so you know
Starting point is 01:59:20 what part took me out. To start a Bollywood dancing the jeans Oh, they did do the Bollywood thing, didn't me? They did. That sounds amazing. What was this called? Slack. Slack. S-L-A-X-X.
Starting point is 01:59:38 It's unshutter. It is better than Killer Spha, though. Oh, I'm sure. It made my top ten. It's that little super low-budget indie movie that for some reason the writing caught my attention and it made my top 10 this year but not as good as a killer bomb no no or the jinger or the ginger dead man or whatever ginger weed man ginger weed man you guys stiff me made me sit in there and watch them
Starting point is 02:00:08 I know all the beer you got all the free beer all right Phil my number nine is going to be the empty man not to be confused with The bye-bye man. Still need to rewatch that. It was a pretty good one. It was a little slow moving, but I like the way that they went, and it was original, I feel like. So I like that. All right.
Starting point is 02:00:40 Empty, man. Wasn't that last year? Or was it this year? It came out, like, at the very end. Oh. It counts. It counts. I've seen it pop up on all of it
Starting point is 02:00:52 because it came so close to the end of the 2020 I'm kind of cheating I'm kind of cheating on my number one movie so I think we're okay all right number eight this is on shutter
Starting point is 02:01:05 and it's called the medium Ah okay creepy creepy Yeah it's a How do I put it It's shot like documentary style Is there this lady she
Starting point is 02:01:20 gets possessed. And I think this takes place in Indonesia. Oh, this one, yeah. Yeah, it's kind of slow at the start, but once all the possession craziness happens, it's fucking creepy as hell. And I enjoyed it, and I recommend it to anybody.
Starting point is 02:01:40 Yeah, the medium. I forgot about this one. She does a horrible thing to the dogs. I'll just say that. She does the horrible thing a dog. Oh no. That's not good. That's like Cruella territory there, Philip. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:01:57 Maybe worse. Uh-oh. But is it, is it like three hours long or something? I think it's a little over two. Yeah. I've been meaning to watch it, but it's kind of hard for me to sneak in. A really long movie. It works. Yeah. It
Starting point is 02:02:13 almost, I almost tapped out of it. It's not that the beginning is bad. It's just I kind of wanted to get because she's supposed to be possessed and it slowly, the stuff she does slowly builds up to the horrific stuff
Starting point is 02:02:29 but once you get there you're in for a ride so I'm going to check it out all right, Naz great is that me? I'm sorry I was listening to what was going on outside
Starting point is 02:02:49 wrong turn Oh, nice. That's my number eight. Good, I'm not the only one. I wasn't sure exactly. I thought we were just going to get a flat-out remake, and I don't consider this a remake. Not at all. Not at all.
Starting point is 02:03:05 It was just something totally different, and I enjoyed it. I'm hoping we get more. So, yeah, my number eight is wrong turn. All right, Lance. My number eight is also wrong turn. I thought it was an amazing movie. I thought that it was, it did not have to be called wrong turn, right? It could have stood up on its own merits by any name, but...
Starting point is 02:03:28 Could have been a wrong way. Great film. I love that ending sequence where you start getting the credits, but you said her, like, walking into that fan. And then she comes out with a blood all over and you know what happened. It's a great movie. Really, really great way to redo a movie. So I love this year's wrong turn. All right.
Starting point is 02:03:51 So? My number eight is going to be Gaia. Nice. I wish I could have gotten into it more than I did, man. Yeah, it's a very slow burn, too, but they go deep into the woods and get caught up with these guys that live there. And then basically find out that there's this fungus that is the oldest being in the world and kind of runs shit. The fungus of mangus, huh? Yeah, exactly.
Starting point is 02:04:19 Nice, nice visuals. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Great special effects. I just, I expected more out of it for some reason. Yeah, I can see that. I just, it was, it was original and it was entertaining, and I enjoy this one. All right.
Starting point is 02:04:37 My number seven is Pig. Oh, nice. I also, I don't know who said it earlier, but I feel like he should get nominated for this. This was something out of the norm that he's been doing lately. I thought he was great in this Nicholas Cage I love the story and it was beautifully shot
Starting point is 02:05:00 it looked gorgeous it didn't look like it didn't look like an independent movie and yeah just great and then he said some things in the movie that I was just kind of like I fucking get you I fucking get you
Starting point is 02:05:13 so that's my number seven yes yes I'm going to go with Resident Evil Welcome to Racken City I love that movie sucked right
Starting point is 02:05:32 For the creatures Not the infected people That's what it was Get me Creatures were bad though right I loved this movie I just watched it again recently It is what it is man
Starting point is 02:05:47 I thought it was an awesome film I know a lot of people didn't like it I mean, even one of my buddies that's really, really super duper hardcore and played every single game. Right. I wanted, there is a resident, did that, do you watch those animated ones, Brian? The Resident Evil movies? When, what was it? What's that the fuck?
Starting point is 02:06:14 I can't even remember the name. There's a new one. Yeah, that's a subscription box thing sent me a box to talk about on the show. You guys remember? Mm-hmm. Absolutely. Yeah, they put a couple of them in there, and I haven't watched them. I have to talk about the Netflix one?
Starting point is 02:06:30 No. Oh. Are they computer-generated ones? Yeah. Like, CGI ones. Okay. There's a new one that's out. I haven't seen that one yet, but the other ones I watched.
Starting point is 02:06:41 Those were more of, like, the cutscenes from the video games. It's kind of like that. It's that style of animation, but. But for this one, one, it was cheesy and goofy, but I enjoyed it, man. I thought it was cool. I mean, it was another Resident Evil. I loved
Starting point is 02:07:00 all the other ones, and were those like the games? Not even close, but got to see Mila and all that. So, I liked them. So this one, my son, this is the only one that he had seen. He had to seen any of the other ones, but I told him that this one was more right along
Starting point is 02:07:16 with the game. The first and the second game, and they just matched it together and gave us what we got. I don't know if I don't think it made any money so I don't I doubt if we're going to get another one but I enjoyed it I'll buy it soon as it comes out and resident evil welcome the raccoon is my number seven where's your bow when you need him for my number seven the spice is life for the desert planet of tattooing oh wait a minute I don't think it was tattooing but uh there were sandworms there were sandworms that uh
Starting point is 02:07:52 Yep. Number seven, I'll go with the grand spectacle that was Denny Louise's famous Dune, part one, as we now know. But it made it just for the visual effects alone. Very disappointed when it ended because I wanted it to keep going on, but looking forward to part two. Yeah, we're getting it officially. That's a Robert Ebert thing. No good movie is ever too long and no bad movie. movies ever too short. All right, Phil. Let's see.
Starting point is 02:08:30 What number are we on? Seven. I'm going to go Antlers. Nice. I thought this movie was fucking great, man. Great Windigo story. A lot like the ruins. I could kind of swing for either one of those.
Starting point is 02:08:48 You know what I mean? But I don't know when the ruins came out. So I don't think it was this year. Or not the ruins. What was it called? The Netflix one? Yeah. The ritual.
Starting point is 02:09:01 The ritual. You know what I mean. I was there with you. Yeah, so Antlers, very good movie. Very impressed. And it definitely deserves to make every top ten list. All right. My number six.
Starting point is 02:09:17 Another one on Shutter. This one was called The Power. The Power. The nurse. It takes place in the 70s, I think, in London. And this nurses, I think it's the first time on the job, and they're, like, closing down the hospital. So it's, like, barely anybody in there. And it's happening during the time when the city was experiencing rolling blackouts.
Starting point is 02:09:43 And I just thought the atmosphere was there for the movie. Because me personally, I think hospitals are creepy. But when you got to be there. and there's no one really there and blackouts keep happening I'm out of there so the power kind of had double meaning because it was also referring to the power going out
Starting point is 02:10:06 yeah and there was a supernatural things going on especially there was a certain floor that she had to go to that was right you know looked like there was no power ever in there so then you got of course the creepy guard that was a little too forward with some of his stuff he was saying to her.
Starting point is 02:10:26 Okay. So I thought this was a fantastic movie. It's on Shudder, and that's my number six. Well, of a zombie apocalypse her broke out, it'd be in the hospital for sure. Yeah, it would start. Uh, Ness. Uh, Ghostbusters, afterlife.
Starting point is 02:10:44 Yes! Yes! Yeah. This movie was awesome. I loved it. It really was. I've seen this on some bottom. list. Come on. Those people are so jaded.
Starting point is 02:10:56 They need to just die. Whoa. Come on. If you don't love this movie, you're dead inside. Come on. All right. Lance.
Starting point is 02:11:10 Number six was a movie from Thailand, actually, that I caught wind of. It's one of the, actually, probably should be a little higher than number six, truthfully,
Starting point is 02:11:21 but I had to deal with subtitles. So that knocks it down to six. But you guys ever heard of this movie The Maid? Part of it. Oh, my God. It's on Amazon Prime, dude. Holy fucking shit.
Starting point is 02:11:36 You've got to check this out. This is just a straight-up horror movie. It's about one thing at first. It's just like a straight ghost story. And then you kind of learn some connections between certain characters in it. And then you learn about a background of a main character. and then it just goes absolutely off the rails bat shit crazy. You've got a character in here putting on a see-through coat, raincoat,
Starting point is 02:12:05 so that they can do their best Patrick Bateman with music playing in the background and just fucking stabbing somebody multiple times to death. I won't say who are the scene, but this movie is not what you think it's going to be at the beginning. And they put it into three chapters, which I really like. So check out the maid. This really needs to be on every horror fans must watch list. Nice, Phil. All right, I'll check that one out.
Starting point is 02:12:33 This is where it gets murky. I'm not sure of the place on the list, but I'm going to go Psycho Gorman. Nice. Great fucking movie. It probably deserves to be higher now that I'm thinking about it and saying it out loud. All right. Number five for me is antlers. Fuck the Pet Cemetery
Starting point is 02:12:58 movies. But teasing the Windigo. Oh, that's a good point. And we got the Windigo in this one, and it looked fucking awesome. The movie was great. I liked the cast. Fat Damon.
Starting point is 02:13:11 What's her name? Felicity, whatever her name is. And that kid in there, I don't know, that's what he looks like, or they mountain, nourished him on purpose, but he just picked the role. I just thought it was great. So, Antlers
Starting point is 02:13:26 is number five. It's a lot of less, man. Les. Lance. Wait, we skip a Naz or? Oh, I'm sorry. There you go. No, my mic was off because my kids
Starting point is 02:13:44 doing my dad sons were out to pounding on the door. Uh, wait, number five? Yep. All right. Now, I'm going to go old. Nice. Nice. Good. Yay, Maz. thought this was an awesome movie i love me too me too so yeah my number five is very original old yeah awesome film lance uh ghost busters afterlife nice lots of fun with the movie we've talked about
Starting point is 02:14:10 it before so it's it's it's definitely up there in uh prime real estate we're into the top five now right yeah okay uh fails you're number five yeah these are the ones i'm real concerned with um i'm gonna go because this is probably my last horror movie in the list, malignant was awesome. I love that movie. And if we're going just playing horror, that makes number one. But I didn't head that route. So this is where it ends up.
Starting point is 02:14:40 We do what we want here on horror return. My number four. I do what I want. What I got out of this movie, I didn't expect to get, but ended up loving it and it was Candyman. I thought it told a great story. People are, you know, saying the movie is too woke, but I keep telling people you obviously have never seen the first movie
Starting point is 02:15:04 because the same message in the first movie they had in this movie. And, yeah, I'll butcher his name again. Yaya Abdul Mateen, I'm fine with him being the new Candyman, especially the way they told the story. Well, I'll say this for anybody who thinks that this movie is too, woke, just harking back to the scene where it's a black gentleman and a black lady that are in a super nice apartment that was built over the bones of the ghetto. It was in Chicago, and there, somebody said, well, they've been gentrified and they just kind of looked at each other and says,
Starting point is 02:15:44 how do you think you guys are living here? So it like, it tells, it tells the story from every side. It's, uh, it's very realistic. It's not over the time. It's, it's not over the time. It's They don't black X monsieur, okay? Yeah, definitely. I didn't want to bring that fucking movie up, but definitely what they thought they were doing with that movie they did with Candyman. Right. Yeah, no, I thought we were going to get away was not bringing that movie up. Yeah, this was the right way to tell the story that they told.
Starting point is 02:16:17 And I thought, I thought it was a great addition to the Candy Man saga. Unlike other people, I actually liked the other Candyman movies, but I don't want to throw them out of canon or anything like that. But I thought it was a great one. It should have made my list. But my thing is you saw the other ones, so you can have, I mean, anybody can have an opinion on it, but. Yep. Drop that right in the trash. You can have your opinion on it.
Starting point is 02:16:50 Right. But I kind of respected more if you've seen the other one. Because I've known someone that says they hated the new Candyman. And I was like, for what reason? And then they gave me. And I was like, well, that was in the first one. I've never seen the first one. Just like one time someone told me they hate the Han Solo movie from Star Wars.
Starting point is 02:17:09 And I was like, why did you hate it? They were like, well, I can't really tell you. I've never seen it. I was like, then you don't really have a fucking opinion. That's the problem. Yeah. That's rough. But Candyman is my number four.
Starting point is 02:17:22 Nez, throw that movie away. Is it my turn number four? He popped up and showed us this black Christmas Blu-ray copy. Malignant is my number four. All right. Awesome, awesome movie. Don't need to get into it.
Starting point is 02:17:40 Lance. Okay, this is going to get some hate. We're going out of the hate road now because you know me. I don't go with everybody else. So. Here we go. Army of the Dead.
Starting point is 02:17:53 Just that opening fucking sequence alone with a sad ending where the two people were separated together and something fell on one of them and just to close off the city of Las Vegas that was zombie infested. I love everything about this movie. In fact, every movie I'm going to talk about
Starting point is 02:18:13 from here on I've seen twice. So there you have it. Army of the Dead I thought was a great great film a a lot of people are mad because there's
Starting point is 02:18:24 little continuity errors and stuff like that well yeah that's because he's creating a universe so I'm all about it
Starting point is 02:18:31 I don't understand all the hate that that one got didn't need to be that long but it was an awesome movie it's an awesome movie yeah I like the prequel to it
Starting point is 02:18:42 too I didn't see it I haven't seen it fell asleep I fell asleep I'll ask all I say is it well, you got to watch it all the way through.
Starting point is 02:18:52 Game of Thrones check. Super hot in it. Which one? Oh, yeah. I know exactly what you're talking? Emmanuel, Natalie Emmanuel. Yeah, and she was in the F9 maybe, but she couldn't save it. Yeah, that one. Oh, okay.
Starting point is 02:19:08 She's super hot in it, and it makes you Dieter. It makes you like his character even more. I'll just say it. Phil. Number four. I'm going to go Spider-Man, no way home. Nice. Good movie.
Starting point is 02:19:25 You may, sir. Moving on. All right. Number three, he likes honky boys. Psycho-Bormon. See, that was my problem. I feel like this movie should have made it higher on my list. And it should have.
Starting point is 02:19:39 Dumbass would be making. Great, great practical effects. Even the cheesy, like, CGI effects fucking work for me. and everybody the people that didn't like this movie they said because they hated the girl and I'm like she's supposed to be that way A little girl?
Starting point is 02:19:57 Yeah, Mimi. Yeah. She was awesome. I've seen this movie four times. And I loved that he could never remember the brother's name. Right. So that is my number three.
Starting point is 02:20:12 Like it. Yes. Halloween kills. Yes. I love this movie. Wasn't that good. Yeah, it was. Man, it was hell of good.
Starting point is 02:20:23 That stupid fucking story in the bar and all this. Evil dies tonight. Evil dies tonight. Come on, man. This movie was fucking awesome, man. I loved every minute of it. I watched it until they pulled it off a peacock. Oh, it's not on there no more?
Starting point is 02:20:39 Uh-uh. I don't think so. Thank God. I want to see the extended cut, but I don't want to pay for it. And, um, well, it's got to be. with the steel book, I think. Okay, speaking of that, I need to pre-off. It's just longer where they beat him up in the street.
Starting point is 02:20:54 I need the pre-order. And he still gets up and takes him out one by one. I mean, it gave me what I wanted. Like Brian said, it was on the title, Halloween kills. It had the most kills out of any of the movies and it was fucking awesome. I loved it. He asked my number three, Halloween kills.
Starting point is 02:21:15 Lance. My number three, Psycho Gorman. Again, like I said, I've seen it four times this year, and it never gets old. It's like the Power Rangers on acid. Yeah, there you go. That's a good description.
Starting point is 02:21:34 Bill. My number three is going to be Ghostbusters afterlife. They did it justice, man. Great fucking movie. I really enjoyed it. I cried a little bit when the original Ghostbusters showed up. I think everybody did. All right.
Starting point is 02:21:52 My number two is, I'm not sure Denny Louis did the movie. Is that what you said last time? Denny Louis, didn't he? Denny Villeneuve. Oh, yeah. Oh, Villeneuve. Okay. Yeah, dude.
Starting point is 02:22:10 I thought Dune was fucking amazing. Damn, that's up there for you, man. Yeah, well, I had talked about this before when we had. Jack on. Yeah. This was, the original was a movie that my dad introduced
Starting point is 02:22:23 me to. So I was familiar to this world and a lot of stuff they were talking about. I didn't have to like, you know, look it up,
Starting point is 02:22:33 you know, what does this mean? What does that mean? I already knew. So I was already there with the story and I thought the cast was phenomenal. And visually,
Starting point is 02:22:42 it was amazing. I wish I would have, was in don't look up. was he yeah see i think i might be about to go watch that movie here in a little bit when we're i i got yeah i got to watch it too he was the skater dude that was like her boyfriend at the end of the is it back on spiel huh is it back on hboh are we we're talking about uh don't look up oh okay i'm sorry i was oh was he really skating in that movie or was he just holding the skateboard no i think he was just holding the skateboard no of course
Starting point is 02:23:16 But Doom. Visually, it was just amazing. And I wish I saw it in the theater. So my number two is Dune. All right. Yes. Candyman. Nice.
Starting point is 02:23:32 Awesome film. I made a lot of top ten lists. That was my number two. Lance. Okay, number two. Get ready for the hate to pour in, Philip. But, Nez, you're with me on this. one man number two was old great theatrical experience it just did something I
Starting point is 02:23:54 didn't expect to really ever see before I love the way that they set the characters up in the beginning you kind of knew something was going on but not quite what it's one of those movies that I kind of couldn't figure out but then once it got sort of toward the third act and I sort of could figure out what was going on I mean whether a few silly things like swimming through the coral and stuff like that. Yeah, maybe a little bit silly,
Starting point is 02:24:19 but you had to create something to get them out of there. And then that very final scene where they did what they did and, you know, talk to a particular character. I just thought it was a really
Starting point is 02:24:31 interesting original film. In fact, I went and bought the graphic novel and read that. So, yeah, old is my number two. Go ahead.
Starting point is 02:24:41 Everybody tell me why I'm wrong because so many people that's on their bottom 10 list this year. I left it off my list, but I should have probably said it honorable mention. I liked it. And Lance, I'm doing the 12 books
Starting point is 02:24:52 like you are this year. All right. Nice. I might, I might, after you read it, tell me if I should read it or not. I'll put it on my list. I would check it out, dude. I've already read it.
Starting point is 02:25:04 It's a little bit different ending, but M. Knight put his own special twist on this one. Uh-oh. Another tweet? Check it out. Was it the twist that he was taking pictures on top of of a mountain.
Starting point is 02:25:18 That was the twist. Got a twisted shamama. One of them. Okay. Phil, number two. My number two, I guess I'm kind of cheating here, but I had a bunch of honorable mentions. So the Suicide Squad.
Starting point is 02:25:32 Ah, okay. Cool. Yeah. Great fucking movie. Loved King Shark, Nanaway. Yeah. It was great.
Starting point is 02:25:41 Sylvester Stallone. I love it. Yeah. Perfect. Okay. we're down to the number one my number one gave me all the feels gave me all the nostalgia gave me all the remember this
Starting point is 02:25:55 remember that I got a little little teary eyed in the movie theater and it is Ghostbusters afterlife yeah that's your number one yeah it hit every good feeling for me and like I said on our review for it like I've taken my daughter to see the original
Starting point is 02:26:15 ones in the theaters and we got to share this experience again. And yeah, very, very well-made movie. I don't know why anybody had a problem with it. No, nobody should have a problem. Like I said, if you don't have, if you don't enjoy this movie, or you have a problem with this, you better check your blood pressure
Starting point is 02:26:36 because your heart's probably not fucking beating. Yeah. Well, in this movie, it's not everything. You would think you would get emotional about, but it is. Oh, yeah. They pulled it off big time. Great film. Yes.
Starting point is 02:26:50 My number one? Antlers. Nice. Oh, wow. Okay. I fucking loved this movie. It was, I think I loved it so much as I knew nothing about it. I just went in raw, like ODB.
Starting point is 02:27:10 I know. I didn't. didn't watch any trailers. I didn't read anything on it. It doesn't always end quite as well. Or maybe it does. So, but I loved every minute of this movie. I didn't want to go by
Starting point is 02:27:27 myself, so I showed my son the trailer. I said, I'm going to go see this. Do you want to go? He was like, all right, cool, let's go. And I told him, I said, like, I don't know nothing about it. I'm just going to watch it. Because I had heard some people hate it, and then I heard some people like it. So I'm like, all right, I'm going to check it out.
Starting point is 02:27:43 so I just went and saw it, watched the movie. I was like, fuck, this movie was awesome. For a minute, Halloween Kills was my number one horror movie of the year. Then Candyman came out or I think that was the order, but I don't know, but I was like awesome. Malignant was there for a second after I saw that. But when I went and seen Antlers, I was blown away by this movie. I just thought it was awesome. I just loved it.
Starting point is 02:28:16 Yeah. I mean, it is what it is. Carrie Russell, I mean, I like her, fat damon. He's good and just about everything. And, but I got to give it out to that little kid, man. He sold his role. He did. A little crackhead.
Starting point is 02:28:31 Yeah, I felt sorry for him. Like, oh, my God. And I did love that how his dad was at least trying to protect him. He wasn't a complete asshole. So, but, yeah, I thought this movie was amazing, and I loved it. And that's my number one horror film of the year, Antlers. Yes. All right.
Starting point is 02:28:55 This one definitely came out a couple of weeks before the end of last year in limited release, so that it could be, I guess, eligible for winning some Oscars or whatnot. And it did win one for Best Original Screenplay, but it didn't win Best Actress, which I thought, I think a certain Carrie Mulligan was absolutely fucking robbed. But yeah, my number one
Starting point is 02:29:20 movie, I'm going to say of 2021, promising young woman. Because this movie did some shit toward the end of it once it was about two thirds to the movie that I have literally never, ever ever seen in any other movie
Starting point is 02:29:36 ever. And I don't want, I'm going to say it's less than a year. because everybody who's listening, I want you to get to check this movie out, so I'm not going to say what happens. But, you know, don't always count on your heroes
Starting point is 02:29:52 to make it to the end of a movie. That's all I'm going to say. Have you guys seen this one? Oh, yeah. What was this one again? I'm sorry. Promising young woman. Oh.
Starting point is 02:30:03 Yeah. Oh, my God. Boy, did this have some twists and turns, huh? I've seen it, but I can't. really remember it. You got to rewatch it, dude. I've seen it three times now. You got to rewatch it, man.
Starting point is 02:30:18 McClubin, come on. It's a trip. McCluffin. Nickloffin. Nickloffin. Nickloffin on cocaine. Allegedly. That's about right.
Starting point is 02:30:29 Oh, yeah. No, he's doing it right there on screen. I thought we were talking about real life. Okay. No, man, it's a super impressive movie. Everybody had some great picks this year. It was a good year in movies, right? Yeah, Bill, finish us on.
Starting point is 02:30:47 Uh, yeah, my number one, you guys have already, uh... Suicide Squad again, right? No, no, no, Dune. For sure. Whoa. I watch this sucker like four fucking times, man. I cannot wait until they make another one. It's...
Starting point is 02:31:02 I was concerned, as everybody was, that they could not pull this off in a movie. And, uh, and, uh, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, and, And they did a great job, man. I love it with a whole lot less dialogue than the original one. Yeah. So that's my number one for sure. I can't wait until they come out with the next one. So that's the best and worst for another year.
Starting point is 02:31:32 Philip, we had a little bit of feedback, right? Oh, we did, yes. From our buddy Tavares, who couldn't make it on the last show because I couldn't figure how to put him you to make all the wrong tomorrow. Yeah,
Starting point is 02:31:45 we had another one. We had another one standing for it. Oh, different. Anyway, he says, uh, what's up,
Starting point is 02:31:53 fellas? I swear every time I think I've heard of every horror movie you all end up reviewing the titles I've never heard of like Santa Jaws,
Starting point is 02:32:00 terror train, or the curse of the blind dead, death spa, and many, many others. Um, I learn a lot from you guys,
Starting point is 02:32:08 and I appreciate the awesome content you all put out. Happy New Year. thank you so much devaris you're awesome I swear to God we're gonna get you on the show I praise indeed I think he's coming on well
Starting point is 02:32:21 find us at thehorterms.com and what's going on next week Brian oh shit put me on the spot I think we got Devaris man yes I'm pulling up the schedule sorry everybody perfect podcasting next week will be the year in horror 1988 part two
Starting point is 02:32:39 monkey shun and Elvira Mistress of the Dark. Yes. That will be, we promise we will have the right Tavaris this time. Yes.
Starting point is 02:32:50 Tassels and all. Not random dude that we tried this guy before the show started. And to whoever that Tavares was, you should have just hung out with this. Good to talk about some movies. He went along with it for a minute.
Starting point is 02:33:02 I thought it was the right one. I think he got scared. We got you, gave you a shirt. He was like, wait a minute. I don't know any of these fucking people. He was brave to answer. I never answered when I get these calls.
Starting point is 02:33:14 Yeah, random people skyping you. All right. Well, thanks for hanging out with us for our best and worst of the year. So, Philip, until the horror returns again. Good night.

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