The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #294: The Year In Horror 1988, Part. 1: Monkey Shines & Elvira: Mistress Of The Dark
Episode Date: January 9, 2022This week we are joined by Tavares Ellis of Student of the Game podcast and YouTube channel. We discuss lots of football, of course! But then we dive into the year 1988 to check out Monkey Shines and ...Elvira, Mistress of the Dark. Cool of the Week includes Antonio Brown, See, Yellowjackets, Free Guy, and Titane. Trailers are You Won't Be Alone and Archive 81. The podcast spotlight shines on Bringing Down the Grindhouse. And we get feedback from Matt Wood, Cameron Sullivan, and Marcey Papandrea. AND THE TSHIRT CONTEST IS STILL RUNNING UNTIL JANUARY 15TH! We have 2 brand new entries from Mark H Cooper and Edward Walker. We are up to 7 entries, so your chances are still good so drop us a note at thehorrorreturns@gmail.com or our website www.thehorrorreturns.com. Thanks for listening!
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All right, welcome back one and all to the greatest show on earth.
Oh, wait, I think that's copyrighted.
I better watch out.
Brian, what do you think, man?
What is the greatest show on earth?
Are they going to find us?
Well, it used to be Barnum and Bailey's circus or whatever.
But I guess there's...
Circus is like illegal now.
Yeah, that's a good point.
We could turn that shit right back around on.
All right.
Well, we're glad you guys are back.
We are once again bringing me the horror returns.
I'm Lance and with me as always are my co-host Brian
Philip Niz maybe on a little bit later but most
important of all is we're doing a take two of a fuck up
that we did several weeks back about six weeks ago
My bad guys
No I don't think it was your bad dude
I think we got the wrong Tobaris Ellis
But tonight we've got the right one am I right?
I believe so I think you absolutely correct
that's what the last guy said too but oh he did he did hold his last name was ellis too
yeah it's tovaris ellis I was like hey Tavares how you doing he's like I'm good I was like all right
he's like uh yeah same last name wow wow well yeah well this is the right one this is the right
one because I'm saying it so I guess you got to trust me or my document you're on the recording now so
yeah I'm on the record the right one whether you say
so or not.
We can do that.
As long as your student of the game, we're good.
No, I'm just messing with you.
All right, man.
I definitely left again.
It's the same guy.
All right, man.
Speaking of student of the game, what's, what, tell us all, tell us, tell our listeners
all about you.
You've been on the show at least twice, right?
Yeah, well, this is, this is the second time.
This is the second time officially.
I'm not going to count the other Tavares that with my doppelgang.
or my variant that was here six weeks ago.
But yeah, this was second time, man.
What's going on on Student Game Podcast?
Man, right now talking about a lot of sports
and talking about a lot of, well, the past week,
I've been talking about a lot of casting news
and movies and stuff with Marvel, you know,
trying to figure out what the hell's going on
with the Black Panther 2, Wakanda forever.
Talking about Spider-Man and just talking
about the stressfulness of being a Houston Texans fan, man.
Like, I think, like, out of all the horror movies I saw last year, I think watching the Houston
Texans and watching the moves that they make is the most horrific thing the past year.
So it's like, it's ridiculous, man.
But, you know, I'm still trying to get through it.
But it's good to have a podcast because the thing about it's, I get to vent out my frustration
and stuff because if I don't do that, then I might just go crazy.
So, you know, but, um, I understand that.
I'm a Cowboys game.
Okay.
Well, man, y'all, y'all winning right now.
I envy.
Yeah.
I'm shocked.
I'm shocked your own with us, Phil.
Aren't they playing?
Aren't they playing, aren't they playing right now?
Yeah, but this game doesn't mean anything.
I'm not even sure they're going to play their guys.
Uh, my support.
Michael Parsons has got COVID now.
Dude, COVID is tearing through everybody.
I was going to say who doesn't have COVID right now.
I'm just getting over it.
My voice is almost back to normal, but I feel great.
And Omario, it's touching everybody, man.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, where can we find you, man?
Where's your, you don't have a website, right?
But you got, like, who do you do your podcast through?
Podbean or which format?
Well, right now I'm still doing it through Anchor.
Anchor.
Okay.
Yeah, I'm still doing through Anchor.
I haven't changed yet.
Matter of fact, I haven't had time to even research other different sites or whatever.
Because, man, we, well, last time I was on the show, three kids.
Now we have four kids.
All right.
By having four kids, it's like, hey, man, like I remember I used to just had so much time to do certain things.
And it's like, it's like, man, I got in my little note section, man, this shit that I have on now.
I'm like, dang, I should have did that.
Like, I should have researched this.
I should have did that type.
But why the hell I didn't do that?
And I'm like, oh, diaper changing, spinning up on clothes, blowouts, washing, laundry, that kind of stuff.
Oh, right?
All little, too, huh?
Yeah, yeah.
Yes.
That's what I'm like, God, dog it.
I'm like, oh, man.
But right now, it's still through Anchor.
But you can find me on Spotify and on Apple and on Google.
podcast and also have a um have a youtube channel now so i'm on you oh oh we're been trying to do that
we've been talking about that for a couple years now yeah yeah man it's it's work man it's work man
is it's work because um the difference is this it's like whenever i'm doing my podcast because it's
audio, it's like, okay, well, I don't, I don't have to wash my face right now. I don't got to brush my
hair. You know, I don't got to find a hat to put on, but with the YouTube channel, it's like,
okay, where's my freaking hat? Where's my Astro's hat? Where's my hat? You know, where's my hat? I'm like,
oh, I need a hat cut. I'm like, oh, you know what? I should shave today. Yeah.
I'm like, I'm looking kind of homely right now, you know? So then I'm like, oh, I need to
wash, I need to wash my shirt. Oh, man. So that, that right there, I know it seems small,
but it's like, I have four kids. It's like, man, when you have that 30 minute, 40 minute window,
it goes by quick. It's like, damn, I can only talk for two minutes now. So. That makes sense,
man. I got a little nervous before we got on. I was like, are we doing video yet? I hope not,
because I hadn't brushed my beard. I got salsa all over my fucking shirt.
Dude, I remember I recorded like, because every week I do like the NFL pickums and stuff.
Yes, you do.
Yes, you do.
You're usually spot on, by the way.
Oh, man.
The games that I really want to be spot on, I'm not.
Yeah, you do kind of go with your heart sometimes.
Yeah, yeah.
And that's what gets me, man.
It's like, I'm like, man, at first I'm like, man, the Texans not going to win this game.
But then I'm like, well, you talk to yourself in.
It can't get any worse than last week.
Yeah, it can't get any worse.
I'm over-exaggerating on how I'm talking bad about them.
It can't be that bad.
And then watch the first freak of quarter.
It's like, God damn it, Tavares.
What the hell?
What's wrong with you, man?
What's wrong with you?
But yeah, man.
I don't even know who the Texans quarterback is this year, man.
And I live in Galison.
Hey, man, listen.
Davis Mills, man.
Davis Mills.
Never even heard of him.
I know.
Listen, listen, I'm going to tell you something.
What's crazy about it is that he's a rookie third-round pick.
I like him.
I think he has a little bit potential.
Maybe he can be like a middle-of-the-pack quarterback.
Okay.
You know, what scares me is that you have actual fans who say,
Hey, he looks good.
I think he could be better than the Sean Watson.
And I'm like, no, I'm like, no, don't say that, man.
And I'm like, he just need to be decent.
I still have suspicions that they railroaded that, dude.
Yeah.
Oh, I believe so.
All of a sudden, that information comes out when he says he doesn't want to play for the team anymore.
I'm like, uh, I mean, how much money is it going to take to get a couple of hookers to say something, you know?
Yeah, yeah.
And then I'm like, I'm like, okay, the thing about it is, I'm like, okay, this has been, I think like March will probably be about a year.
I think since that news came out.
And, you know, he hasn't been arrested or nothing.
They still hadn't proved anything.
I mean, right now, in my opinion, is he say, she say.
I'm not saying all of them alive.
But at the same time, I can't say all of his stories are lies.
So it's like, I mean, but it's like, I hope justice gets served.
I really do.
Oh, of course.
You know, when people say, well, why would 22 people lie on one person?
I'm like, well, what you mean?
money. I'm like, I know a lot of people that are a lot, but smaller things.
It just seems completely opposite from what that kid has been his whole life.
Yeah, yeah. But see, here's another thing. Okay, if they were so concerned about him going to jail and all
this stuff is true, okay, why are y'all still trying to trade them? I mean, when you cut them,
I mean, why would you want somebody like that on your team? You know, you're talking about you're doing it
for the culture or whatever kind of culture you're trying to build.
And from my understanding, the only reason he hadn't been traded is because he has
no trade costs in his contract.
And he only wants to go to Miami.
But if you're to Texas, well, get a better deal from a team like Philly or a Denver
or something like that.
But he don't want to go to those teams.
He want to go to Miami.
He comes Dallas.
I'd trade.
You've got a good quarterback.
Oh, I know, but I mean, if it's between Dach and Dachan Watson,
you'd have to think about it, huh?
No, I'd have to go with Dishon Watson in the heartbeat.
Wow.
Man, hey, you know what?
And I love Dack.
I've got like four jerseys.
Yeah, man, I'm a big Dack fan, man.
I like that, man.
To be quarterback in Dallas, man, that's a lot of pressure, man.
Yeah.
You know, that's a lot of pressure.
And it's not just from, like, you get more pressure from your.
fan base than you do from the national sports media.
Oh,
when you're out of Cowboys quarterback.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
Any Cowboys chat I'm on,
there's nobody that's going to talk more shit than an actual Cowboys fan.
Yeah.
And the thing about it is any quarterback that's able to survive for two,
at least two years over there,
hey man,
you,
hey man,
you,
you got a strong backbone.
You got a strong backbone.
I got more faith than him than I ever had in Romo.
Yeah.
Yeah.
I can see.
To me, he's more, he doesn't make a lot of the mistakes that Romo does.
Like, Romo will make a lot of bone.
He plays.
Like, he'll throw for 500 yards in the game.
And you're like, okay, you got the next John L way.
And then as soon as you say that, bail, pick six.
You know.
That's what comes to taking those chances.
Yeah.
But I tell you what, man.
My grandmother, she always rooted for the Cowboys.
So growing up, I root for Cowboys and the Oilers.
and then when they fired Jimmy Johnson,
let me say, I was probably about 10 or 11 years old,
I was like, well, I don't know more,
because why would they fire Jimmy Johnson?
Close in a row.
Who fires the coach after doing that?
And then so I just rooted for the Oilers.
Then when the Oilers left,
I just followed whatever team Warren Moon went to.
And so I still, I root for the Seahawks.
That's my number one team.
But when Houston got a team,
team, whatever. I was like, you know what? I'm going to root for my home team too. But they sure
make it so damn hard to root for them, man. They make it so hard. Like, if I wasn't, if I didn't,
if I wasn't from Houston, I would never root for them. But it's like, I got a root for my home team.
I got to show them that support. But it's like, damn, they make it so hard, man. They make it so hard,
man. It's so stressful. So, yeah.
So stressful.
Since you're an Oilers fan, I went to high school with Earl Camberville, Earl
Campbell's nephew.
Oh, really?
Yeah, Bernard Campbell.
Okay.
He played in college and stuff.
Okay.
Okay.
What position he played?
Well, he was, I think he played wide receiver pretty much the whole time, but he was a little
guy in high school.
He jumped up in college.
A short, a short wide receiver.
Okay.
Anything's possible, right?
Well, I think that's probably why he didn't make it past college.
Right.
Well, you see a lot of short running backs.
Fastest kid alive.
Okay, yeah, that speed kills, man.
That speed kills.
Right, yeah, it'll do it.
Well, nowadays, they have quite a few short receivers.
I mean, you have, well, they put them in the slot and stuff now, but, yeah, back then,
they didn't really let the short receivers play, though.
But, yeah, now they, shit, man, ever since, who's that, West World.
Oh, yeah.
Okay.
He's like 5, 7, 5, 8, they put him in the slot, you know.
What's the other guy?
No, well, Cooper Cups.
I think Cooper Cups about 5, 9, 5, 10, something like that.
Is he really?
That's pretty short for a receiver.
Yeah, yeah, he's not that big.
But see, he gets a lot of his catches, man.
He stays in that slot.
It's like nobody can guard that dude in the slot.
Yeah, he's leading the league and everything.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm like, dang, this dude here.
They put up a stat thing the other day.
And it was like,
all numbers were bigger than the Megatron,
And then Calvin Johnson.
Yeah.
Damn.
Same quarterback.
Yeah, same quarterback.
Might be something to it.
I mean, for real.
He needs to learn to throw to somebody else, though.
Maybe he can win more games.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, tomorrow's we're happy to have to finally actually have you here, man.
So, I mean, you're pretty familiar with the format of the show.
You know, we always start out with Cool of the Week.
So you're our guest.
like to extend the honor to you first um coolest thing you've seen played experienced um whatever's
your cool of the week it in it could be absolutely anything tv show movie whatever what what's
your cool of the week okay so i i actually have two of them is that cool yeah absolutely because i got
you're the guest all right all right cool cool all right so it's um it's not a show it's actually
a person, but it's entertaining
because every day I'm finding something
new about this person. Antonio
Brown.
All right.
Dude is entertaining. I'll tell you that.
Yes. Yes. It's like,
I have stopped watching other stuff I've been
watching just going down his freaking rabbit
hole to figure out what the hell is
going on, man. It's like
my kids' bad time has been kind of delayed because I've been
doing that. But, dude,
like, what was that? Sunday? You know,
I see the footage.
Dude just took his jersey off and waved to the Jets fans and jumped up in the end zone.
Yeah, I did.
I did see that.
And I'm not even a sports fan.
Of course he did.
It's Antonio Brown.
Who else?
I'm like, man, is this a, is this an S&L skin or something, man?
And, you hear everybody saying, oh, he quit on his team.
He quit on his team.
whatever. He's mad because Brady went
and calling the ball. I'm like, man,
I'm like, okay.
So the next day,
you know, come to find out
and
I think he re-agravated his ankle
and he told the coach, he said,
my ankle flaring up, man,
and the coach, you know,
said, you're done and he did
like the cut throat sign and stuff.
And A.B. was like, well, it was like
that or whatever. And then, you know, he
left.
I'm like, hold up, man.
Like, I thought the NFL, so, you know, when they promote the game or football,
they say they care about player safety.
So I'm like, why the hell would they, you know, would the coach want to cut him
because he reagravated his ankle?
Why wouldn't the coach believe him?
And then, you know, you go down a big rabbit hole whenever you click the comments,
when you hit the comment section and stuff, people say the most outrageous stuff.
People say, well, if it's ankle,
was hurt. He shouldn't have been playing. Well, he was running routes. He was running. His ankle
must be fine. And I'm like, man, like, it's a difference from jogging away to going out there
playing on the field where you got to run at full speed. Yeah, but you heard the latest, right?
With, like, what Bruce Arien said was that he didn't ever say anything about his ankle in the game
when he came and said because he was in like a specific package the whole game and then suddenly
he wasn't there and they were like hey where's they be at and uh he went over there and i guess coach
asked him hey what's up he said i'm not getting the ball anyway i'm out so apparently bruce erians
told him get the fuck out and when he did that i don't know if he went across his throat but according
to him he just kind of pointed very largely told him to get the fuck out um and then
That's when he left.
So, I mean, I don't know who's telling the truth in this point.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And B.A. said that he wasn't aware of an injury.
Right.
And Antonio Brown posted text messages that the transcript from Bruce Ariens and, you know, talking about his ankle and stuff.
So that's what I'm like.
But in the text, he said, hey, A.B., this is Bruce.
This is coach or whatever.
And then people was like, who on a text message?
identifies their name and stuff like that.
I'm like shit.
A lot of old people do that.
You know, hey, hey, you know, this your uncle.
Oh, I have no doubt that the texts are real.
But that was like earlier in the week.
And apparently he was pretty good to go by Sunday.
I'm sure if he'd just said something about his ankle that, you know,
it may be a different story.
Although that may be what happened.
I mean, the NFL has got sideline might of that footage, I'm sure.
Oh, yeah.
All they got it.
I can't wait until they release it.
If they do.
Yeah, that's true.
You probably won't, you know, we probably won't get it.
We'll never know.
We'll never know.
Yeah.
We'll never know.
Right, right.
NFL is like another one of those
fed three-letter names, you know.
Yeah, yeah.
CIA, FBI, NFL.
He was on a podcast.
No fun name of it, man.
He was on a podcast, and I'm not,
I'm not even familiar who the young men were on it,
but they looked.
It looked like in the early 20s, mid-20s, I think, or whatever.
But AB was just saying whatever the hell he wanted to say on that, man.
He was like-
And he was talking shit about Brady, though.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm like.
That dude stuck his neck out for you, man.
Yeah.
That's what I'm like, yeah, I'm like, okay, AB.
I'm like, like, watching AB, man, it reminds me of, like, growing up when I used to watch
from the WWE where you had the Rock, Stone Code, Triple H, all of those guys.
Where it's like, they could go for like, they could go like 10 back down episodes in a
row without even wrestling in the match, but they'll just do a bunch of talking and it has
everybody's attention.
You know, it's like when they had the Triple H when he broke up with DX and stuff like
that, talking Isbop film and all that, you know.
And that's what it reminded me of when they, A, B,
is like, man, he's going in on Brady.
I'm like, okay.
And I'm like, I don't agree with much.
The only thing I agree with what A.B. saying is that, okay, he said that he's the best
receiver on the team.
Now, I believe that.
Of course he is.
Yeah, you know what I'm saying?
And I'm like, I got no problem with him believing in that because I'm like, well,
you can't be great at anything if you don't believe you the best.
So, you know, that's fine.
But I'm like.
Although my boy Mike Evans is an Aggie.
From Galveston, ball high.
I love my goodness, man.
That dude's a beast, man.
That dude's a beast, man.
Now, I don't think he, like Evans right now.
That, there.
Oh, my Bluetooth when out.
Can y'all hear me?
Yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Loud and clear.
Okay.
Hold on.
Let me put that.
You actually sound better now, I think.
All right.
All right.
Can y'all hear me?
Yeah.
Yep.
Okay.
There we go.
All right.
So now, all this stuff he's talking about Brady and him, though, I'm like, man, I don't
agree with everything he's saying, but it's just so freaking entertaining.
It's like.
It absolutely is.
Yeah.
I'm like, that dude there is like he is, I don't know if Twitter, Facebook, Instagram is
giving this dude money or whatever, but this dude here is generating ratings and stuff
and clicks for the, for the NFL, because they got his video.
on NFL.com and all that.
I'm like, you know what I'm saying?
I'm like, it's almost as if they need him.
You know, they like to say that it's all about the own field stuff.
It's like pro wrestling a little bit, right?
Yes, yes, yes.
Like, I love Tom Brady.
I'm a Tom Brady fan, but off the field, Brady is a bit corny.
You know, I get tired of watching them.
You know, you don't really say much, you know.
Well, right.
But have you ever heard another teammate ever talk bad about him?
I haven't.
Anybody I've ever heard talk about him that's actually played for him has nothing but great things to say.
Nothing negative to say, huh?
Yeah.
The only person that I heard, well, he didn't say anything bad about Brady, but he pretty much was calling Brady a lot.
Where his former college teammate, Charles Woodson, but he's saying, man, Brady knew that was a fumble.
You know what I'm saying?
Oh, well.
That's just football.
Yeah.
You know what I'm saying?
But outside of that.
Let me see.
Like, I remember James Harrison,
I don't know if you remember,
he played for the Patriots for one season.
Yeah.
And, you know, he's from Pittsburgh again.
He was like, you know,
he was going to go in there.
He was like, man, you know,
because he was like, well,
he didn't have Brady on no kind of pedestal before he got there
because, of course, he was a stiller.
And he said, it's like,
after he left the Patriots, he said, man,
you know, I got a newfound respect for that dude.
He is an ultimate competitor, you know?
James Harrison is a bad dude.
Yes.
I'm like,
you guys mean as hell.
Yeah, that's what I'm like,
if James Harrison is saying that,
I'm like, dang, that's,
that's legit, man.
Yeah.
That's legit.
You know what?
Ray Lewis said,
saying something about Brady before
about the whole
SpyGate thing and
and he learned a dude,
maybe.
Allegedly.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.
Well, the thing about it,
and that's the thing.
He said that.
And then like two days later, he was like, well, I didn't mean people took it out of context
of what I said and stuff because people started bringing that up.
They say, well, man, what about your background, dude?
Dang, Ray.
Yeah, yeah, you set yourself up for that one, bro.
Yeah.
Set yourself up.
Maybe that's just to lay low.
Yeah, yeah, who knows?
Who knows, man?
that, yeah, that, yeah, that's a whole other situation in its own with Ray, man.
Oh, man.
Anything else, anything else you want to cover for Cool of the Week?
Yeah, it's a show called C on, oh, with Jason Mom.
With Jason Mom.
Yeah, yeah.
Yeah, Brian, Brian, you've seen it, right?
Yeah, just a little bit of the first season.
Okay.
You tapped out.
No, I didn't.
There's too much stuff to watch.
Yes, yes, indeed.
It's a lot of stuff, man.
All right.
Like, this show here, let me see.
At first I wasn't going to watch it because when I saw the first trailer of it,
I'm like, okay, it's okay.
But my wife's a big Jason Mamoa fan.
So it's like, we started watching it.
And then it's like, man, got.
Matter of fact, we finished both seasons.
They have two seasons on there.
Man, that show there, like if you like,
If you enjoy, like, the action scenes that they had, like, in Game of Thrones, like, the action-packed episodes.
Okay.
You would enjoy this show here, man.
Like, the stuff that dude does, I'm like, you know what?
They need to make him a savage like he is on sea.
They need to make him like that in Aquaman, man, like.
Yeah.
But it's amazing because it's like everybody, like, because society in that show, everybody has become accustomed to.
not seeing. So it's like, it's common for people who are blind to move to maneuver like
like Daredevil. You know what I'm saying? It's like, it's almost like.
Kind of an extra sense, right? Yeah, it looks like they can see because you can see their eyes,
but it's like they can't see. And I'm like, dang, man. Like when they fight people who can see,
like, they make people who can see, like looks stupid. That's what I'm like, yeah.
Yeah. I thought about getting around too, but there's just, like, like Brian said, there's so much fucking shit out there right now, you know?
Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Like, I'm going to tell you something. By watching that, that set me back a couple topics I want to cover in my podcast because I'm like, I'm like, dang, man. I'm like, I really need to go talk about this right here. And then I'm like, pop in another episode because I'm like, we just couldn't stop. So, you know, and once the kids get to bed early, it's like, hey, you got to hurry up and watch your shows or your movie quick. And then you need to get your ass to bed. So.
Right.
It felt like it hooked you then.
Oh yeah, it hooked me, man.
Hook me big time.
Hook me big.
But very, very good show.
If you like action, man, Alfredo Woodard is in there also.
And in season two, Dave Batista is in season two.
Oh, shit.
Okay.
So, you know what I'm saying?
Like, if you can get some stuff in the hour.
If you can get Jason Momoa and Batista on the same screen, I mean, shit, you got, shoot, you got something.
epic in every scene, man.
So, but it's much
Jason Mamoa isn't in the
WWE yet.
What's that?
I said, I'm surprised Jason Mamoa isn't in the
WWE yet.
You know what?
I think if he was an Aquaman
and making that big time money, man,
that box office, he probably would be.
He probably would be, man, for sure.
You know, especially when you see the
guys like the Rock and John Cena
leaving the WW to make it big
in the movies, man.
So, but yeah, man.
It's a real good show.
I highly recommend it, man.
All right.
I'll get mine out of the way quick.
Brian, you and Pedro talk to be into this one.
Checking out Yellow Jackets on Showtime.
Good?
Yeah, dude, I'm like four episodes in and I'm like,
what in the fuck is going on?
It's like, it reminds me a lot of lost,
but it's kind of like, let's hope that they wrap it up better than they wrapped up lost.
there's so much going on
there's time jumps
but every time there's a time jump it makes sense
and there's like multiple
time jumps so you may see one character
that's acting out a scene
that's in the late 90s
and then they you know
the camera pans and they're like
in modern day and then the camera pans
again and it's the same character
of it as a child like in the
late 80s or something like that and it
it all makes sense it's really well put
together so
I'm going to say this is this is probably going to be a contender if it keeps it up it'll be a contender for best show of the year
Ooh all right nice yep it's worth it yellow jackets I'm like to check that yeah yeah I never would have heard about it
If Brian hadn't brought it up about what six weeks ago yeah about that you want to go Phil uh yeah man I got a couple of them I kind of well I've been on quarantine for the best week so I've caught up
That'll do it.
I actually watch Tenet all the way through, and it's still confusing as fuck.
But it's, I mean, I think it's a cool movie.
It just, you know, time travel is kind of hard to begin with, but they've got like one timeline working backwards and one timeline working forwards.
And you can't do that without ending up with plot holes, which they do.
So you really have to think about it while you're watching it.
it's hard. Yeah, that's why I had to tap out of Westworld, because it was like, is that person
a robot? Oh, wait, wait, wait, but that's the human that used to be a robot, but now they're a
robot again, but I had to tap out of Westworld. I tried season three and I couldn't do it.
Yeah, man, I don't even remember if I made it all the way through season two or not.
Oh, man, it got so complicated. It's great, though. Yeah. And then I checked out,
let's see, I did the action movie thing. I watched.
the Jason
Statham one
What was it?
Wrath of Man
Wrath of Man
I thought that was pretty good
It wasn't as good as I wanted it to be
But
It's Jason Statham, man
It was a good movie
And nobody
Which was fucking amazing
I loved that movie
Yeah
It took a little more lighthearted
And fun approach
Than I expected it to be
Yeah have you seen that Tavaris
nobody?
Nobody.
Is that the one with the guy from Breaking Bad?
Yeah.
The lawyer.
I've seen the trailer.
The trailer was very badass, but I haven't seen it yet.
I think it's in the John Wick universe.
Oh, really?
Yeah.
Yeah, that's what I was told.
Brian, didn't you hear that?
They said they can work it out that it can be.
It's not official.
But if they wanted it to be.
They could make it happen.
It had a little bit of a John Wick feel to it.
I mean, he's not quite as much of a badass, and the fight scenes were not as...
Kinetic.
Yeah, like, just fucking real as the John Wick fight scenes were.
I think the same people worked on it.
Oh, yeah?
Yeah, or one of them.
I mean, they were still pretty great, though.
Like, I loved it.
And the characters in it were amazing.
The guys that showed up at the end, I don't want to.
give anything away, even though it's old. But I was, I was super excited to see who his brother was.
And, I mean, his dad was Christopher Lloyd. So they showed that pretty early.
He kicks ass too, man.
Back to the future. Back to the future. Yeah.
Old as fuck, Christopher Lloyd. Yeah.
Wow. You know, I actually thought that he had,
passed a while ago, but on the Hallmark Channel, they had like a Hallmark Christmas movie
where he was in there where it dealt with time travel. He was like the train.
No, come on. Yeah. Yeah. How'd you miss that one, Lance?
Yeah, no shit. I forgot the name of it. I need to go back and look at that, man. I watched
half of it, man, but it had him and it had the lady who played Marty McPly's mom.
Leah Thompson? Yeah, Leah Thompson.
Yeah, she was in there too.
But yeah, but prior to looking at that, I'm like, man, I thought Christopher Lloyd died, man.
But it's good to see him.
He's still kicking.
Yes, sir.
Yes, sir.
And then I kept going.
I watched Pig, which was not what I expected it to be, but pretty great.
Like, very artistic and so well done by Nicholas Cage, man.
that was a totally different acting job than crazy Nick Cage that he's been doing lately.
Good movie.
And I watched The Last Duel.
I liked it.
I liked it.
Yeah, it wasn't bad.
I liked that chick in it.
We're going to see her in some more stuff, I'm sure.
And it was a little repetitive because it just kind of tells the same story three times from three different
perspectives.
Correct.
But, and I can see why it didn't do well in the theaters, but it's worth watching.
It was a pretty good movie.
And then, although it looks like Fred Durs picked the haircuts for the fucking thing.
Right.
That's funny.
Speaking of which, we got to get our video done, Brian.
Yeah.
Yeah.
And then my, I think my favorite one of the week was Free Guy.
Ah, that's a great movie.
Yeah, finally watched it.
I love that movie.
It is so great.
Tycho Waititi is in it, and he is...
Oh, that's right.
I love that, dude.
Same chick from Last Duel.
Yeah, same check from Last Duel.
That's what I was saying, man.
I think that she's going to be big in the future.
Okay.
Yeah, they're probably going to get her in a Marvel movie pretty soon, probably.
Oh, I'm sure.
Probably already cast.
We should probably...
Go to IMCB while you guys are talking.
She's done a ton of little shit, but, I mean, like, only...
two, three, four big movies.
And I think this is, yeah, that's her, that's her jumping point.
She's, she's, she's, far.
Is that the take on, what's her name, Jody Comer?
Mm-hmm.
Yeah.
Okay.
All right.
Yeah.
She's probably going to be in some stuff.
She's like, if you, if, if, if, if you're just looking at her, she looks kind of
plain until she makes any sort of face at all.
Yeah.
She's beautiful.
I, I don't know what it is.
She has this cute little smirk.
And it works.
And yeah, that was, so that's definitely my cool of the week.
That was, that was what ended it for me.
I was, I had a great time showing my son that one because he's a big video game nut.
Okay.
That's what's up.
Let's see.
I saw this one on Hulu.
It's a action crime drama called Yakuza Princess.
What?
You're making this up, dude.
Why do you think I make all these movies up?
Brian.
That sounds amazing.
Yakuza princess?
Is this anime?
No, Lance.
It's not anime.
Tell us all about it.
Come on.
Is Jackie Chan in it?
No.
Then I'm out.
I would like to tell you guys that I enjoyed it, but I didn't.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
Uh-oh.
It had a potential to be badass, because there's, there's,
a lot of sword fighting in there.
You get a lot of, you know, crime
stuff with the yakuza's.
But the camera
stuff, there was some shaky cam
going on. There was a lot of
super close
up shots of people's faces.
And then the thing
that did it in for me with action movies
is the digital blood.
Oh, no.
And I was
looking forward to this one
because I heard people talking about it
making the festival rounds.
But it just, those little things just kind of took it out for me.
That'll happen.
And Lance, I checked out, how do you say, Titan?
Yeah, yeah.
What did you think?
I don't know.
That's what I was.
There was points in the movie where I didn't know.
I got what was happening with the, with the,
Okay.
With the main actress in the beginning.
Yes.
But then the shit she was doing with the car and...
Then I'm just kind of like...
I'm trying not to spoil it.
When it got to that, I was just like...
Well, how do you spoil it, though?
I mean, it's just...
But then when it got back to her on the run and what she was doing with the fire captain,
I understand what she was trying to do, but then, like, it got weird.
after that.
Very awkward, right?
I described it as sexually awkward, right?
Yeah, especially with the fire truck near the end.
Super weird.
And all the shirtless fireman.
I didn't get that.
Oh, man.
You know, it's French, right?
Give them a break, right?
Right, Tavaris?
They think differently than we do.
It's a movie.
It's a movie.
Okay, okay.
I will say, I can't remember the director's name.
It is better than, I think it's better than her first movie.
Raw?
Yeah, we didn't like Raw.
Philip, remember we checked that out?
We were both, like, bored out of our mind.
What was the first movie?
Raw.
Raw.
It's like a vegan chick that goes to a college, and they're pacing her by making her, like, eat vegan shit.
Yeah, so that wasn't really good.
Yeah.
Didn't really deliver what you thought it was going to be.
Okay, okay, because I saw the training, I was like, I don't know.
I was like, I'll put that on my list, but okay, it'll stay on the list.
Probably won't get to it though.
Right.
But I guess Titan is my cool week, even though-
It's not bad.
It's not bad.
I know it made a lot of people's top 10 list.
Yeah, it's very, very well filmed.
Yeah, I agree.
And I did enjoy the main actress in it.
I thought she was good.
It's just there was, it just took some turns that confused me.
Definitely kind of a gross out when she like broke her nose to look different.
Yeah.
All right.
Well, that's cool of the week.
Brian, we got any horror headlines, man?
We got some, we got some.
Tavares.
I think you covered this on your YouTube channel.
Sony delays Morbius until April 1st.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
I feel like we're getting April food.
So, yeah, that's, yeah, I heard they're doing that thing.
Are they fixing that janky-ass CGI?
I don't know.
I don't know.
I heard they might be trying to add on Andrew Garfield in there.
I wouldn't, I wouldn't mind that.
Yeah, yeah.
I always liked this Spider-Man.
I thought he was cool.
me too
and I think he redeemed himself
after uh no way home
oh yeah oh yeah I mean it wasn't
it wasn't really his fault but
nah it wasn't it wasn't
but yeah he he carried that
it seems like yeah his character carried that burden
and stuff and um
but yeah man I'm if they bringing them in
I mean that that would be awesome
that would be awesome but um
and part of me was hoping maybe um
we could get some blade action in there because
I mean, you know, they're making the movie about a whole movie about a vampire.
Okay, well, you need to put the vampire's biggest thread in there, you know,
and blade in there.
It's got to be Wesley.
Yes, yes.
You're like an old man blade.
Yeah.
Hey, man, we got old man Logan.
Hey, we can get an old man blade.
Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice skate up you.
Man, I love that.
I love that.
I love that.
I can't wait to my kids.
old enough so I can tell them that too, man.
And with this delay,
Morbius has been delayed more
times than the new mutants.
Oh, man. Oh, wow.
Not a good sign.
So I wonder if the previous delays were due to COVID.
Yeah, they were. Okay, okay.
Because the new munitions, that came out
before COVID, though, right? Yeah.
Supposed to.
Okay.
Yeah, seemed like we talked about it like in
2008 or 2014 or something yeah yeah because okay well I can I can okay I can see that right
there okay because new to COVID that's probably why it's been delayed so all right uh for
everything sure uh great excuse uh we talked about Nicholas Cage playing Dracula and Universal's
Renfield movie he is looking towards
towards the movie Malignant and the Ring Sadaku for his inspiration for his Dracula movements.
What?
Ooh.
Okay.
Sure.
I don't know.
It'd be entertaining.
Whatever.
Why not?
It's Nick Cage playing Dracula.
What more do you want?
Right.
Shoot, man.
When I think of Nicholas Nick Cage as Dracula, I keep thinking of his
character in face off castor Troy
man with
it's Dracula
I'm castor Troy
man
it should be yeah
but it should be entertaining man it's
Nicholas Cage man the dude is very
animated man so you know
he will bring the effort
so
all right
1984
slasher the mutilators getting
a sequel from the film's
original director Buddy Cooper
just now
I guess
why
why?
I mean
jumping on the old
bandwagon huh?
I don't know
good ass buddy Cooper
okay
sure
the same
the only movies
that they get
oh I'm sorry
go ahead
but now I was saying
so the same
director who made the movie
back in 84
is
going to be over the sequel
okay
yeah
yeah
maybe he didn't want
to sell at the Bloomhouse
I guess
He's been putting some thought into it, I suppose.
You know what?
Bloomhouse, they had posted something a couple months ago.
They didn't say what movie franchise this was, but at first they was talking about, yeah, we got to, we're about to do this big with a, we're about to redo a movie, a oldie, but a goody and stuff.
Okay.
Then a couple of days later, the dude, I think is Jason Bloomhouse.
I think that's his name.
He said, he said, yeah, I don't get why people, you know, they don't want to work with.
with us, they think we don't know what we're doing and all this, but he'd say, I'm not going
going to name the movie franchise and stuff.
Oh, it's talking trash, but without saying who it was, huh?
Yeah, that's what I'm like, okay.
I'm like, okay, that's pretty petty, man.
Like, you got probably about 90% of the remake market right now.
It's like, come on, no, no doubt.
Yeah.
I mean, they got enough leverage.
He should be able to, you know, talk freely about anyone, right?
He shouldn't have to act like that.
Yeah, less.
Let's just still hope for the deal to go down.
Maybe that's...
Ah, there you can get leverage.
Yeah.
Well, movies don't make money unless they're a remaker is equal at this point.
Seems that.
That's true.
That's true.
Yeah.
Speaking on movies, that's not going to make money, the next Bring It On film is going to be a slasher title,
Bring It On, Cheer, or Die.
That's just still going on.
How many movies do they have?
I've seen the first one.
Oh, man.
There's going to be on site.
They have at least two or three.
It's got to be on the sci-fi channel.
Yeah, man.
I think they have at least about five movies.
Oh, man.
I do. I think it's at least five.
Like, I remember scrolling, like, on demand and stuff.
Or, like, whenever an old movie's own, like, I think, yeah, the first one might have been on,
and I would click info to see who I was in that movie.
Because, you know, of course, you know, Gabriel Union and Kristen Dusters is in there.
But at the bottom, he'll say, who watch, bring it on, suggest you watch this.
And I'm like, dang, it's like four or five sequels.
I'm like, I remember they did one sequel with Hayden, um, sanitary.
Yeah.
That was, man, when they showed them trying to, I guess that was their version of Crumpin or whatever to hell.
Oh, gosh.
I'm like, they got like four or five movies, but I'm like, well, if you're in the cheerleading and all that, you know, hey, they got an audience, so I can't hate it.
Right, right.
But, oh, man, it's right here.
I wonder if they're going to bring any of the old cast members back.
They might.
I think they're doing better things.
As the grandmas.
So, as the grandmas.
Jesus Christ.
Last thing, we're going to finish up here.
with is Keanu Reeves is set to star in the devil and the white city, which will detail America's
very first serial killer, H.H. Holmes. I am looking forward to that. That's a good book.
That's a good book. It's all based on true events. And it's produced by Leonardo DiCaprio,
I believe his company bought the rights. Can't go wrong. Yeah, it can't go wrong. I'm surprised he's not in the
movie.
He might pop up.
He's going to be
AJ Jones.
That's going to be
my next question.
So is Keanu
going to be the serial
killer or the
They haven't
said yet.
Oh,
come on.
He can't,
he's got to be
the detective or
something to
verse.
He can't be the bad guy.
Man,
he was the bad,
man,
what movie was that?
He came out about
like in 98,
97.
Oh,
with the
phone
collecting like that?
Yeah,
with Katie Holmes.
Right, yeah, yeah
Oh, okay
Hillary Twink was in there too, man
Right
And like
He was
Yeah, he was
He was a bad
He was a bad dude in there
I'm like
Okay
Man, I'm so used to seeing him
Just be nice
I'm like
Yeah, me too
Me too
Dude was scary bad
That's what I'm like
Dang man
I wouldn't want to cross him man
Shit
Hey Giano Reeves can do no wrong
That's true man
That's true
That's the Matrix
man i haven't i haven't met a single person who gave that movie a good review man i haven't
watched it yet but i'm like what are you waiting for man come on HBO well on that one i was
me and my wife was going to watch that one together whatever so yeah man it's i'm still going to
watch it but i was like dang i don't know anybody who said man like like normally like
even if it's a movie where i know there's people who say the movie suck always find somebody where they
say, oh, man, that movie there was off the chain.
That was the best movie.
And I'm like, I have not seen anybody post that about that movie.
You know, I'm like, huh.
That's right.
I'm like, well, I guess they should have brought
Morris Fishburne back or something.
Yeah.
And on that note, that is the news.
All right, Tamara.
You're, you're somewhere in the,
Houston area, right? Yeah, yeah. So what part of town are you on? I'm on the southwest.
Okay, so I know for a fact that you've got that you've got trailer parks out in your neck of the woods.
Yeah, yeah. Okay. All right, well then you're ready to, you ready to take a trip with us?
Yeah, let's go. All right, let's do it, Brian. Bring us the big, the small, and hopefully the very, very weird.
All right, the first one is from Focus Features.
This is called You Won't Be Alone.
I'll go with a quick synopsis.
In an isolated mountain village in 19th century, Macedonia,
a young girl is kidnapped and then transformed into a witch by an ancient spirit.
This star is Numi Rapace, Alice Enggert, and others,
and directed by Gorin Stolofsky.
Probably butchered his name, but,
What did you guys think?
This gave me very A-24, The Witch Fives.
It did, yeah.
Yeah.
I'd like to know more.
I mean, I didn't really get anything out of the trailer.
Did you guys?
It kind of looked like the witch was changing bodies.
Okay.
Well, maybe.
Could be good, you know.
I mean, it has potential, right?
She was another in a long.
line. So it looks like they stole a kid and she became one of them. So it looks interesting,
for sure. That looks really interesting. I got, that's the first thing that popped in my mind when
I saw the kid getting taken away. I thought of the wick and stuff. And whenever there's a
movie where they're messing with kids and stuff, that, that shit creeps me out because I'm like,
damn, man, because normally in a lot of horror movies, you know, they don't, they don't mess with
kids and stuff unless it's a Stephen King movie or something.
Right.
Kids are,
kids are animals, right?
Yeah, yeah.
You know, but like in that movie The Witch, when that they snapped, when that baby got
snatched, I'm like, she was bathing in the fat.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm like, man.
Like, I literally have to pause that movie for a minute because I'm like, man, I don't
know if I even want to watch the rest of this, man.
They snatching babies, man.
But yeah, this is right here, you know, I got those kind of vibes.
on it. And I'm like, oh, man, this is going to be one of those type of movies. But at first,
I thought it was something with wolves because after the kid and snacks, the caption, when the
lady was screaming, I'm not sure what language she was speaking, but the caption on it, it said,
it said, wolf dash eatress. And I'm like, so I'm like, so are they half humans, have
wolves or something? But let me see. Brian said witches. So I'm like, okay, well, close enough.
Witch, wolf, I mean, a...
Snatching babies, man.
That's wild.
That's wild, man.
Is this some Nordic thing?
Lance, what does Numi replace?
Well, she was in Lamb, right?
Which was...
Was that in Iceland or...
Yeah.
Somebody's going to correct you.
Maybe someone we can ask you.
I'm sure...
I think so.
...mard make some random appearance.
Well, and she was in the original
Girl with the Dragon Tattoo movies, right?
Yeah, yeah.
Sweden.
I think Sweden, actually, as a matter of fact.
Oh, okay.
That makes more.
Yeah, Sweden.
It looks more Sweden, Norway-ish.
Does it look like a gold member?
It's Sweden?
I don't know.
I'm not even going to try.
I like gold.
She is Swedish and Spanish.
Oh.
Oh, okay.
It's a pretty dangerous combination.
All right.
right this movie is coming out
April 1st
not sure if this is going to be theater
or not but I'll keep everybody
posted
oh man they might end up pushing Morbius back again
if this coming out April 1st
yeah right
competition
if this is competition
for Morbius we got problems
right
they're like I don't think Andrew Garfield
can save us from this
right and I'm sure he'll show up
maybe we can ask Toby to come back too
Honestly, I'd rather go watch this one.
All right.
Our second final trailer is a new Netflix series called Archive 81,
which is inspired by a found footage podcast of the same name.
Definitely had that found footage vibe.
Yeah, okay.
An archivist hired to restore a collection of tapes
finds himself reconstructing the work of a filmmaker
and her investigation into a dangerous cults.
I am not going to try to go through these names because I've got to butcher most of them.
And you probably have to throw them anyway.
Going through the directors, there's four directors, but Lance, a couple of the directors,
Justin Benson, Aaron Morehead.
Ah.
Okay, well, you got me now.
I'm definitely intrigued.
And what Phil always likes to hear,
executive produced by James One.
Oh, God damn it.
Not what you want to hear.
I'm down.
I mean, new Netflix series,
what is it, like eight or ten episodes probably,
and they'll drop all in the same day.
So I'll give it a try.
It looked interesting.
Yeah.
I don't know.
I just want James Wanda to direct more.
I mean, I know he has his hands in a lot of things,
but when he directs, like, say what you want.
If they're good or not, they're entertaining.
Yeah, most definitely.
Yeah, I mean, this one looks pretty good to me.
I don't recognize anybody in it,
but it definitely looks entertaining.
It was a good trailer.
I know the main game.
guy. I know he was in that movie
Underwater.
Okay. And then he was in one of those
Blumhouse and Amazon
movies.
I think the one he was in was called
the Black Box.
Oh, that bored
the hell out of me, dude. That's
not a big sale for me.
That had nothing to do with him.
Well, he didn't direct the movie.
Yeah. We'll
see. We'll see.
What was that other? There was
Remember there was another series on,
was it on Hulu, I think,
that was based on a podcast,
like a, not a true crime
podcast, but I think,
help me out here, guys.
Damn it, it was the guys that did Mr. Robot.
And they
think that it had like a different
actress in the first season
than the second season.
And I think the third season's up in the air.
The fact that nobody knows
what I'm talking about,
or is jumping out and saying, oh yeah, yeah, that was awesome.
Probably means this is going to be more.
The more you're saying, the more I'm getting lost.
Yeah, no, I'm not.
Yeah, sounds, this may be kind of boring.
I got so many fucking TV shows on my much watch list.
So, like, I just, I started, I was going to say, reservoir dogs.
I started reservation dogs.
Yeah.
I got halfway through the first episode, because I was, I was going to say, I was going to, I was going to
first episode because I got busy at work, but I'm super intrigued with that. I definitely expect that
to be my cool of the week next week, but there's so many goddamn TV shows out there. Oh yeah.
Oh, yeah, man. It's a lot. It's a lot. Like, a lot of times I think, man, you know,
competition was so fierce, like, back then before all the streaming services, because it's like,
Yeah, if you couldn't get on like the big regular TV networks or like HBO or Showtime or TNT, it's like, man, you, you just out of luck, man, you know.
But it's like, man, everybody is like all the trailers for all this stuff looks awesome too.
But a lot of times, by the time you watch the first couple episodes, you're like, man, what the hell is this?
Like, West Quartz was in the trailer.
But with this show here, it looks, I'm watching something with the archive footage and stuff.
I'm like, okay, that stuff that tends to creep me out too.
But it looks, I'm intrigued because I'm like, I wonder what's going to happen in the end.
So like, if they have eight episodes in there and I'm not going to lie.
If I find the first two board, I'm going to just skip to the last one.
Well, I'm going to at least go to the last one because it's like, I invested two hours in this.
I need to know what happened, you know, but it looks crazy.
Like the lady talking about she's going to go knock on people doors and all that.
And it's like, I'm like, man, ma'am, be careful.
Take somebody with you.
You're going on knocking on people doors because this is a scary show, a horror show.
It's like, I hope she don't get pulled in by the wrong person, but that's probably what's going to happen.
You can already see it, huh?
Yeah, that's what I'm like, that's like, just call people, man, you know, or shoot
an email or something, you know, post a flyer, man.
You may not realize this, but don't go in that fucking room.
Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's like, if they invite you in for coffee, just say no, man.
Like, yeah, it looks pretty spooky, man, that phone footage stuff, that the dude that's
doing the work.
Man, he's a young guy.
It's like, dude, you got a lot of your life left, man.
It's like, I don't know how much they're paying you to do this, but it's like it doesn't look like it's worth it, bro.
I mean, right.
Hey, some people, hey, money doesn't drive them.
Yes.
All right.
This comes out on Netflix, January 14th.
So a week from now.
Okay.
Yeah. Day after
Peacemaker drops on HBO Max
in Suicide Squad.
Already?
Yeah.
Oh, Philip, you're all over that, right?
Yeah, man, I'll watch it.
Wow, that was quick.
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Philip Insley
dude what's happening
don't like
Mortal Kombat
don't like
Cruella
yeah I was
kind of
scrounging
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man
mobile combat
was fun
but it wasn't
like
I don't want to
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yeah
I
That's my biggest detriment with that one.
Curella is just...
Yeah, I kind of almost forgot about it, frankly.
It's not a bad movie, man.
It's just, you know, do we really need to sympathize
with somebody who skins dogs?
No, we don't.
No, we don't.
That's what on with Emma Stone asked Corrella, right?
Yeah.
Yes.
Okay.
Yeah.
So she wasn't a villain in there?
No, she was like the protagonist.
Yeah.
She was bullied.
Bullied into doing it, basically.
See, I don't like that.
I don't either, man.
According to the movie,
just being villains, man.
According to the movie, though,
which I actually did kind of like,
it was just a drummed up story against her
that didn't actually happen.
And I'm like, well, you know what?
That shit happens.
I've seen it.
Come on.
Nice guy.
Nice little.
list guys. Still not seeing antlers,
Dune, and Ghostbusters,
but we'll ensure that I do.
All great movies. Yes.
Three of the best of the year.
Absolutely.
Yeah, three of the best of the year.
For sure, you have to see those.
Let's see. Cameron Sullivan shared an article
about Quiet Place Writers turning
down a Star Wars movie.
What?
I heard about that. I heard about that.
Balsey guys.
A balzy guys like these deserve much more chances when they can be blunt yet constructive.
Let them form the next Blumhouse hammer horror, please.
There we go to the Blumhouse again.
Yeah, I need, man.
Yeah, I can see them turning it down because they're not going to get the freedom to do what they want.
Yeah, that's kind of the issue with Star Wars.
I think, you know what, if anybody has a chance to do it, it's Phelonian Favreau, and I think that they can save this franchise.
You guys watching Book of Boeufet?
Fuck, yeah.
No.
It's awesome.
I have a lot of it yet.
I've only seen the first five minutes just because I had to see him get out of the Sarlike pit.
Yeah, how he did it.
Spoiler.
Then I'm like, dude, it was the first five minutes.
Well, you know, he's alive.
So that's the most important minutes than the whole show.
but yeah no i mean is it as good as the first few episodes of the mandolarian no no but it's not bad
it's some pretty good stuff and i'm i'm definitely happy with it and it yeah john fabro was
directing um that also uh i think they have a bunch of different directors in this one the same way
they did with the mandolarian okay but favro and philoni pretty much control everything
Okay, okay. Yeah, I trust Favreau. He's good. I trust him. He's good.
So, it's going good so far. We'll see how I go.
All right.
Regarding monkey shines, Marcy Pupandria says, good film.
And we have two new entries into our email contest, which ends January 15th.
That's for Marcy, right? Or is that us?
I don't know.
I don't know what's going on.
Ah, shit.
Did Lance go?
What's that?
The entry's into the email contest.
Is that for Marcy or is that for us?
Oh, you're talking about our email contests?
I don't know.
The one that ends in January.
Oh, I'm sorry, dude.
No, regarding Monkey Shines, Marcy said good film.
And that we're on to the next topic.
Okay.
I was in a rush, dude.
Guys, I was super busy at work and I'm moving my mom to New Mexico.
next Thursday through the following Tuesday, so I'm going to be out of pocket.
So I'm like scrambling at work.
So yeah, my notes are kind of half-ass.
So on to the next new topic, Philip, which is,
and we have two new entries into our email contest.
Okay.
So Marcy doesn't have the email contest, but we do.
We do.
It is January 15.
T-Varice, you're in the running.
I think we're up to seven so far.
So you've got a one in seven chance as of today.
Oh, okay.
All right.
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I like them odds.
Mark Cooper says, okay, I've heard Tim and Daryan mention you on their podcast,
so I'm coming in ready to be entertained.
All right.
Well, we hope to, we hope to not disappoint, Mark.
Edward Walker says, awesome show, great content.
Keep up the great work.
Thank you, buddy.
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This week we go back to 1988
and check out Monkey Shines
and Elvira Mistress of the Dark.
So we're going to start with Monkey Shines this week.
A quadriplegic man has a trained monkey
helping with his paralysis
until the monkey begins to develop feelings and rage
against this new master.
Is that really what happened now?
Sort of.
Director and writer is George A. Romero, also known for the amusement park.
Who the fuck wrote this?
I told you, dude. I was busy at work, man.
You weren't that busy.
You were that busy that you put the amusement park.
Yeah, that was the first thing that popped up, dude.
The dark half and, you know, some zombie stuff.
Yeah.
Allegedly.
This was the first film role for Stephen Root, then a stage actor.
According to Root, he had been instructed by his agent not to let the casting directors know that he was inexperienced with film as an actor.
Don't push the stapler.
Yeah, right.
He'll always be remembered for that.
One of the very few films depicting a quadriplegic having sex.
Except the history right there, ladies
I was going to say there was a joke there somewhere
like, you know, he's like, but baby, I can't
really do it. And she's like, your fucking tongue works, asshole.
Get to it.
Bet you can now.
And this is also one of the few films
in the history to have a male monkey.
Females are generally used due to not being as
aggressive as males.
Oh.
It was supposed to be a female, wasn't it?
Yeah, Ellie or whatever, right?
Yeah, Ella.
Yeah, Ella.
So you say they didn't have, they used a female?
I think they used a male.
Okay, they used a male.
Oh, okay.
And it was supposed to be a female.
Okay, got you.
God damn patriarchy.
Makes no sense.
Man.
All right, Tavar's.
What did you?
you think about monkey shines?
Man,
man,
I almost make it seem like it was
kind of comedic or whatever,
but
watching this movie,
you know,
the last time I watched this movie
in this entire time,
I was probably about like
eight or nine years old.
But,
so after we're watching this,
I'm like,
and I'm like,
wow,
it's really,
this monkey is a,
well,
it's a freaking hit monkey.
It's like,
every time to do you know in first when i'm watching and i'm like you know what that's not that
bad because like the whole the whole part where the bird was just pecking at him that really
kicked me off because i'm like yeah i'm like i'm like okay this's not even funny and i'm like
he's gonna eat eyeballs and shit yeah that's what the hell i'm like where's the nurse and then
when when he had told the looking the nurse he said hey you need to get you need to get you need to
get your bird out of here.
She was like,
or else,
what?
That's the worst,
worst nurse ever.
To be fair,
she was a total bitch.
Yeah,
I'm like,
I'm like,
really?
I'm like,
okay.
She kind of had that shit coming.
Yeah,
I'm like,
okay.
Like,
that's messed up,
man.
I'm like,
man,
that's messed up.
And then the monkey went in there
and,
you know,
he killed the bird.
And I'm like,
yeah,
that monkey,
like,
yeah,
I'm going to fix this.
And I'm not going
I'm like, well, okay, well, that was an eye for an eye.
The monkey, I mean, the bird should not have been pecking at that man.
Like, he's not doing anything.
He's just living in his own house and stuff.
It's bad enough.
He was a, I think he was like a track star or something like that or a running.
It didn't look like it, yeah.
You know, it looked like Arnold Schwarzenegger running there at the beginning.
Yeah, yeah, exactly.
Throwing bricks in a backpack.
High-fiving everybody.
Fisp-pumping people that he ran by.
Who I realized that was?
That's old buddy.
Huh?
In that show, Chicago PD, man.
Is it?
Okay.
Yeah, that's the, he was in that show, and it's a, I don't know if I used to watch this show with David Dacuffney, California Cation.
Oh, yeah.
He was in that show with him, too.
Yeah, yeah, real good show.
But I'm like, man, and so the monkey got the bird and stuff.
And then I'm like, okay, well, I'm fine with that.
The bird had that coming.
but when
when he when every time
old buddy um allan
whenever he gets mad the monkey is like
yeah i'll go take care of him and i'm like
i'm like dang allan just can't even just bit
you know it's like right
the doggo monkey is like hey
I got him I'm gonna go take care of
now
now
I'm watching this movie I was like eight or nine years old
I didn't realize that
um the freaking doctor
was messing with his
messing with his good.
Yeah, that was pretty much.
Stanley Tucci.
Sleezy.
You know what, man?
Stanley Tucci, this is the first
movie I ever seen where this dude had hair,
man. Like, right, right.
Every movie I've seen this dude, and he doesn't have hair.
So I didn't think that was possible.
But I'm like,
I'm like, really?
She messing with the doctor?
And then the doctor possibly misdiagnosed him
just to keep him down?
And I'm like, yeah, right, right.
They had it coming.
They had it coming too.
But the mom, what Ella did to the mom, that wasn't called for.
Because it's like, come on, man.
Everybody gets upset at their parents from time to time.
But it's like, come on, man.
Okay.
He ain't had to do that, man.
You know, that.
Get some Zeke.
I'm sorry.
Yeah.
But this, and I kept wondering, I'm like, man, how in the hell did they,
how are they going to stop Ella?
Because the spread came over there,
a spring couldn't do shit.
Ella was just running around him.
The new girlfriend came over,
and Ella just, like,
somehow caused her to just break her ankle
and hit her head and knock her out.
And I'm like, damn, man.
I'm like, shit, I don't,
get the monkey, end up surviving and kill everybody,
because I'm like, how to hell Alan going to kill the monkey?
But then Alan somehow Miracly was able to touch the tape recorder.
Well, the tape there.
and turned us all gone.
And...
While the power was still off?
Oh, no.
Was it?
Well, well, well, well, where you know what, though?
Carios, they had, you could put batteries in them, too.
Okay.
Yeah, that's true.
That's true.
But, yeah, some of them, you could put them.
I think it's like the B batteries in there.
Yeah.
But, but, man, like, the whole part where how he just,
how he bit the monkey man and just, like,
It's just strangling it like a rat.
I'm like, man.
At that point, I was laughing, though,
because I'm like,
sometimes they had to do a take on that
without laughing, man.
I'm like, come on, man.
I'm like, man, that dude was beast, man.
Shaking it like a dog.
Yeah, he was beasted, man.
Like, he was doing that like,
yeah, like literally like a rag dog, man.
I'm like, dang, man.
Like that stuff monkey.
Yeah, it looked like something from puppet babies or something.
man.
It honors
Jugband Christmas.
Yeah.
Well, I mean, he went back to
he went
he went back to primal, you know?
And if you ever see a dog kill something,
that's what they do.
That's true.
That's true.
I don't finish Ella off right here.
It is ass, man.
You better finish her off.
And I'm like, okay.
I'm like, dang.
I'm like, that was sad,
savage, man.
But I enjoyed the movie, man.
it was creepy and stuff because having that doggone monkey right there in front of you
with a knife or whatever, it's like that's scary, man, because even though as small as the
monkey is, you know, hey, they're fast, they're strong, they're a lot stronger than they appear
to be.
So it's like, you know, they're not dumb.
They're smart, you know, so that's what I'm like, oh, man.
Especially you can't move.
Oh, yeah.
Oh, yeah.
Yeah, that's how he broke the old girl's ankles, man.
That's what I'm like, dang, man.
I'm quick.
But overall, I enjoyed the movie.
You know, I wasn't as scared of it as I was when I was like eight or nine,
but, like, it still had a heightened level of suspense for me.
So scale to one to ten, man, I give it an 8.5.
I think that's the doctor.
Okay.
I think George Romero understood the assignment for it.
So it was what I was expected.
All right.
I'll jump in.
Yeah, I thought this movie was actually pretty entertaining, man.
I have never actually seen it before, I don't think.
If I had, I was very young and I don't remember.
But it was entertaining the entire way through.
I thought they did a really good job of building tension.
And like the monkeys, sometimes you felt for it.
sometimes you were like, well, you know, they did a good job of taking you through the character's feelings about the monkey, at least.
Because like that one scene where the monkey was hugging on him and stuff, it was kind of sweet.
And then...
Next scene, the monkey was choking somebody out.
Yeah.
Well, not anybody that didn't have it coming.
From the most part, yeah.
I kind of agree with you.
for the most part.
But then, yeah, and then the way that he killed it was pretty, pretty vicious.
And I'm kind of surprised that they showed that on camera.
And I really enjoyed this fucking thing, man.
It was a pretty good movie.
I thought it was pretty solid.
I'm going to, yeah.
Oh, well, I'll wait on scores.
Lance?
I don't know, man.
I thought that the amusement park was my least favorite film from the zombie maestro here.
Oh, no.
Not a huge fan, guys.
It's kind of silly.
I don't know, man.
It was...
I can kind of see how, you know, this would have freaked us out when we were a lot younger and stuff like that.
But it almost did kind of feel like a horror.
I hate to say it, it did feel kind of like a horror comedy.
Because at the beginning of it, like I said, you've got this guy running down the road,
you know, looking like he's all, you know, buff and stuff and high-fiving everybody.
And like, all of a sudden he makes a corner and a dog jumps out and scares him
and he jumps in front of a car or whatever.
You didn't like a way he was twirling in there?
It's kind of silly, dude.
And then that fucking beard.
It's like, I've seen better beards on female actors than Saturday,
Live skits. The
chick that plays
Ted Cruz
Saturday Night Live this last couple of seasons.
That beard that's so
fucking phony looks more real
than this one did.
I don't know, man.
I wanted to like it a lot
more. Because
you know, monkeys are really creepy. Like that movie
that I told you guys about that I
was in my top top 10,
the one from Thailand, the maid.
There's like a monkey
doll in the beginning of that
and then this one chick
is like freaking out because she's seeing a bunch
of monkeys creeping around and stuff like
that. I mean, they're
creepy little motherfuckers, right?
For sure.
You know, and you think about it, we're just
like one or two
chromosomes away from being, for being
monkeys literally, you know, and
that probably adds a little bit to it.
But I just found this movie
to be somewhat cheesy.
Um, again, everybody who died in it had totally had it coming. The mom was a cunt.
I don't care if you say, yeah, we have arguments with our mom tomorrow's or whatever you said, but that, that lady was a goddamn bitch, man.
And she was like a smother, she was a smother mother, you know? Like where she came in, she's trying to kick the new, the new girlfriend out that he had.
And he was, you know, was, um, uh, I guess taking the place to the one that was off doing shit with Stanley Tucci or whatever.
and she actually cared about him
and the mom was just trying to lay,
ah, she's beneath you, you know, type shit.
So it was kind of hard for me
not to root for the monkey.
But then again,
like that actor that was
shooting himself up with Adderall
or whatever, so he could
stay awake and do all
of his studies on the monkey.
I thought he was kind of silly.
I thought that the
main actor I never really cared for
him that much. I know I probably
should have because he was sort of like
our main protagonist
that we're supposed to be reading for
but I don't know.
I just
I thought I was going to get something
I didn't get. I thought it was going to
like, you know, creep me out and scare me more
than it did. I haven't seen this movie
before. So actually
both movies are a first watch for me this
week and I was just kind of
yeah, I was just kind of not
as impressed as I was hoping I
would be, because when monkeys are done creepy well, they're done very well.
I just found this to be kind of like a horror comedy type thing for some reason and
just didn't get to me that to me as much as I wish it had.
And there's that story about the lady with the chimpanzee that tore her face off, you know,
like make that into a horror movie.
Holy shit.
Yeah, where did we hear about that?
There was some movie.
That's the thing that happened.
Yeah, but did guys, did we all cover this movie together or did I just happen to watch a movie about two or three months ago where they were talking about how chimpanzees attack people and go for their face and then go for their nuts?
Okay, never mind.
I saw some movie where they talked about that and I was so intrigued by it that I actually looked it up and saw that, holy fuck, that is real.
And then, yeah, you look at the pictures of what these people look at.
like now. They got attacked
by chumps and stuff like that and it's
like, holy crap.
You know, the best
plastic surgeon in the world couldn't fix
this, you know? Because you talk about
a chimp that's about half the size of us.
It's way stronger than we are.
A lot stronger. Yeah, yeah.
Sure. For sure.
Yeah, I just
I really wanted to be a lot more
scared by this movie than I
was, I guess, bottom line.
I found myself like giggling.
in parts where I thought I should have been like, you know, freaking out.
So I don't know.
That's my takeaway for what it's worth.
All right.
Brian, what do you think?
I disagree with Lance.
I was entertained with this movie.
I have not.
I've seen this movie once.
Mm-hmm.
And I remember clearly this was like a video store rental
because I always remember seeing that the box cover.
Oh, yeah.
show. That's why I wanted to be more
scared, because it's a scary box
cover. But I got
more out of it. This is a tragic
love story between a man and his
monkey.
I mean,
he cared so much about
this monkey in the beginning. I mean, he was
calling it baby and all kinds of stuff.
I thought my dog a lot.
He was out of its mouth and everything.
And then when
stuff started to go sideways,
he just dropped that monkey. And that monkey was
all about her man. And then
he just sent her away, told
his friend, don't ever bring her back.
Thought that was tragic.
Sad. That was pretty fucked up.
And that monkey
is pretty terrifying and cute
at the same time.
It's tricky like that. Because it's got
the cute little face and then it smiles with the teeth
and then you're just like, whoa, whoa.
But I do question
the monkey. You get more teeth? You're supposed to.
Yeah. I do question the monkey's
intelligence at the end.
Because the friend, he had no problem stabbing him in the back with the syringe.
But the lady, when she was knocked out, she couldn't seem to figure out how to work the needle.
Yeah.
Oh, yes.
Lightly tapping her face with it.
Yeah.
Yeah.
It won't go through her cheek.
But, you know, I thought it was fun.
I mean, there were some moments I didn't quite understand.
like I didn't understand how the monkey developed a psychic connection with the man,
with her,
with her owner.
Because of her brain concoction that she'd been injected with.
Well, it makes more sense that when the friend, the scientist's friend, he took it,
I understand how they were linked up.
Right.
But the owner didn't take anything.
Also true.
Yeah, that's true.
Yeah.
Just a connection between animals.
That's what I'm saying.
That's why I thought about my dog during this thing.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Yeah, pets can, well, I know dogs can kind of detect, like, let's say, if it's somebody that you used to hang out with or whatever, and you don't really, you know, you don't really get along with them that much.
And then when they come back around, you know, a lot of times, you know, dogs and stuff, you know, even cats, you know, they're going to be protective, you know.
So when that person come around, you know, they're going to be walking the bomb like braw and
stuff, you know.
But yeah, man.
But yeah, I had fun with it.
And I thought the kills were deserving for the most part.
I don't think the mom deserved it because, I mean, it's his mom.
Yeah, she was just overprotective.
Yeah, the whole part where the new girlfriend that called, she said,
she said, he's in the tub right now, but you will have to call him tomorrow because he needs to get his rest.
I'm like, come on.
Oh, yeah. See? See? That was wrong. That was totally wrong.
I mean, the guys are grown up. Just because he's handicapped doesn't mean he's a fucking child, you know?
That rubbed me the wrong way. I'm glad you brought that line up tomorrow. That really rubbed me the wrong way.
Yeah, but that don't mean, you know, she didn't, you know, because matter of fact, he pretty much.
got her back when he had
like he had cussed her out or something you know what I'm
saying but it's like
he didn't have to kill the mom
you know I don't know after this movie
I kind of want a pet monkey because you can
like get away with it
just get away with murder
I will say the one person that didn't
get it that you thought was going to get
it was the nurse
oh yeah old nurse rancher
oh yeah yeah
yeah but her bird did but her bird
That's right.
Baby bird.
I mean, she kind of had it coming too, but I'm okay.
She would have stayed a little big longer.
She would have got it.
Yep, for sure.
Sure, she would have got it.
She was smart.
She got the hell up out of there.
She got up out of there.
So, you know, she's like, yeah, that doggone mucky.
She, like, I know you didn't do it.
So the doggone monkey.
But at first, though, I thought Ella was going to get her.
I thought she was going to do something to her.
That's what I'm right.
Yeah.
I'm like, but what's crazy, I'm like, to be honest with you, she could have just, Ella could have just took the bird out and just let the bird go.
But, you know what I'm saying?
That would have had to, that would have been enough for the nurse to leave, I think.
That doesn't send the right message.
That's why I'm like, Ella is like, no, we're not, I'm not going to have you thinking it was a possible accident, whether or not if you forgot to lock your cage or she's.
squeeze through those bars.
Make your mistake, right?
You're going to let the horse out of the
stable, or are you going to put its head in their fucking
dead?
The same dog that chased the poor
guy into the street made him a quadruplegit
could have eaten the bird.
Yeah.
You know what? I'm surprised Ella didn't
go after that dog.
Oh, that would have
been great. Is there a
that survive?
There needs to be a sequel.
we can write it
not a sequel
I can't imagine
there's not
I think there's any sequels
all right
scores
I'm gonna
you said 8.5
yeah 8.5
I'm gonna give it a 7 and a half
I think it was
yeah dude
I think it was a good movie
yeah
I was very entertained by this one
Lance what did you think
Oh man, I hate to say it for George A. Romero, I mean, I can't, I got to give him his due, his due respect. I can't give him under the halfway point. But I just barely liked it more than I didn't like it. So I'm going five and a half on this one. Okay.
Right. I bring back up. Yeah, I am. I agree with you. This is a seven and a half for me. And Lance, the amusement part, you're better than that, man.
That means the park is terrible.
Don't put that in the notes again.
All right.
There you go.
George A. Romero, mixed reviews.
But I tell you one thing, though,
before we go to the next one.
We all liked it.
Oh, no.
I was thinking about, like, you know how I was saying earlier,
how, like, how the Texans have just, like, been, like,
stretching me out and stuff or whatever.
It's like, man, like, I can only imagine,
if I had a monkey like an Ella next.
Sick Ella of the Texans owner.
It's like, Ella, listen, hey, I'm upset,
but it's like it ain't that deep where you got to go out there
and go like try to do horn to the owners of the Texans or the coaches or stuff.
If you have an Ella, you've got a vast sports team, man,
Ella will probably wipe, she'd probably wipe out the whole damn team, man.
Oh, man.
Now that's what I call it.
rebuilding here.
For real, man.
For real.
Because that nobody's going to suspect
that little old Ella did that.
You know.
Right. I mean, not until it's too late.
She's
taking out to Philly because
it's 30 to 17 at the
half. So, yeah.
Oh, all right.
I'm waiting without playing your starters.
Well, no, they're still in there.
Okay. Okay.
But they're playing.
pretty good. I mean, against the Eagles. I don't know what that says.
I think y'all just trying to keep the Eagles for making the playoffs.
Yeah.
All right. We'll roll on to Elvira, Mistress of the Dark.
Upon arriving in a small town where she has inherited a run-down mansion, a famous horror hostess,
battles an evil uncle and townspeople who want her burned at the stake.
She's a big-booried witch.
Director is James Signorelli, also known for Easy Money, and several skits on S&L.
Ah, okay.
Writers are Cassandra Peterson, Sam Egan, and John Paragon.
Then Unknown, Brad Pitt, auditioned for one of the teenage boys.
role roles, but Cassandra Peterson thought he was too cute and felt that Alvira would not be
interested in Bob if Pitt was one of the teenagers trying to get her.
Oh, man.
She's not wrong.
On her casting notes of his audition, she wrote next to his name, Yum, Yum.
Oh, wow.
Later on, Brad Pitt would go on to purchase her Gothic-styled man.
in Los Angeles.
Check that out.
Oh shit.
Full circle.
I've pressed Dickles Cage did.
Elvira's dress is cut in a specific way and her hair is long in the back to hide burn scars
Peterson has on her neck and shoulders from an accident in her youth.
Peterson has joked that her Elvira costume only shows the good bits.
If it does.
They're a very good bit.
All right.
Tavarst, what did you think about Elvira?
Man, once again, this is another movie.
I haven't seen this movie since I was a little kid.
And, like, it's amazing.
It's like certain jokes that's in this movie.
I totally didn't.
It went way over my head as a kid.
Yeah.
And now watching this movie, I'm like,
she's funny.
Yeah, yeah, she's very.
Hey, very witty, man.
And the thing about her, Cassandra Peterson, like, every, I don't even, I don't recall seeing
how she looked without wearing the Elvira makeup and stuff like that.
Oh, she's gorgeous.
Yeah, but, like, I know every time I see her, like, since I was a kid, dressed up as Elvira,
it doesn't look like this lady even ages.
Like, yeah.
I'm like, she looks the same.
Like, if you look at how she looked in this movie and if you look in the 90s, early 2000s,
And right now, I'm like, she looks the same.
She looks the same.
That's why I'm like, wow, that's impressive.
Or she's a vampire.
Yeah, she's a vampire.
Yeah.
Okay.
She was a vampire.
No, I don't know, but she might be for real.
I'd be bathing in a lot.
Yeah, she probably is, man.
She probably is.
I'm like, wow.
But this movie here, man, like I say, it was very, very witty.
Like one of the jokes, what was that?
where the, I forgot the guy's name who was like the male leader, the movie, but he was putting up signs and stuff at the movie theater.
The letters, they dropped on her head, and she bumped ahead and stuff.
And he was saying, how's your head?
And she said, I hadn't gotten any complaints yet.
Complaints.
And I'm like, I'm like, I'm like, this lady has a comeback back.
everything. That's why I'm like, golly, man. I'm like, I don't know. I think she has a Twitter page,
but I'm like, I'm pretty sure she's an awesome follow on Twitter or whatever, because this lady here,
like, her comebacks are like pretty incredible, I think. Very, very weird.
That's a movie. Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm saying. That's why I'm like, did they even
script? Did she even read the script? You know, because it seems like she was doing one of those
does that.
Vince Vaughn and like Owen Wilson and stuff, you know, where they just,
it's like they just go in, they just wing it, you know?
But, of course, when you're a kid and you're watching this movie, you know,
for the most part, you're distracted, you know,
obvious for obvious reasons and stuff.
But now it's like, when you're older, it's like, okay, I'm like,
wow, this lady is very, very, very witty, you know,
And the whole uncle thing or whatever, the dude that's our uncle, like,
first saw him, this dude here remind, like, I don't know, I might be tripping,
but the dude kind of reminds me of like an actual human version of Gallum kind of,
like sneaky little, like, high he looked.
And then, you know, what tripped me out is that when he finally got the book,
also become this powerful sorcerer.
But it's like, bro, why?
you ageing like a zombie or whatever, the more power you get.
It's like, but dang, man, it's not even worth having that power.
You know, if it's going to drain, you like that.
But, you know, it's some pretty good scenes in this movie.
I noticed one of the kids that was helping to move the car.
He played the, one of the, he played like the Harry Potter wizard-looking dude
and Nightmare on Amstreet Dream Warriors.
Dream Warriors.
Yeah.
Yeah.
He's going to be at Frightmare in a couple of months.
I hope we get to get to meet him.
Okay, okay, okay, yeah, man.
I'm like, hey, man, like, you know what?
If he was dressed up, he might would have had a chance with her
had he dressed up like his Harry Potter wizard or whatever costume or stuff.
You know, I'm like, you know, but I think certain things and scenes in this movie, though,
I don't think would fly in today's cinema because, like, when she first goes to the...
Well, the scene when she went to the bowling alley, like, dudes were acting this,
like, okay, I mean, they'll have that in a movie, but I'm just like, it's like, I don't know,
they just look too tacky, you know what I'm saying? Like, I get they supposed to be like,
supposed to be like the gooms and stuff, but I'm like, okay, I'm like, all right, it was kind
cheesy, you know, but it's the 80s, so you're going to get a lot of that with the movies
in the 80s and stuff. One of my favorite parts was when she finally stood up to Patty,
where we found out that what Patty had in her chest was fake,
you know, so that's what I'm like.
Oh, that's right.
That's right.
Yeah.
And it's like, you know, the whole time never looked at Patty the same again after that.
You know, I'm like, dang.
But they end up being like a virus chest wasn't fake.
Come on.
Allegedly, it's all natural, man.
I did a little reading.
It looked real.
Still?
It's all now.
Allegedly.
I don't know.
I'm not buying that shit.
I don't know. I don't know. I don't know.
You wouldn't mind expecting it, though, would you feel of?
No, I don't have a problem with it, but...
Is it fake?
Yeah.
But, you know, the movie, though, I appreciate the theme of the movie, which is, you know what I'm saying?
Hey, you, we all heard that you don't judge a book by its cover.
And the thing about it is, even.
know, we all are aware of that, for the most part, initially we still do until we're proven
otherwise. And it's like, unfortunately, for most of the townspeople, it took a whole lot
for them to finally, like, realize, well, hey, man, she's not that, she's not that bad, you know?
But it took for them to see her uncle become a freaking sorcerer and try to kill the whole
town for them to see, hey, well, you know what? She's not that bad when you compare her to this
dude right here.
And, um, but I think one of the, um, one of my favorite characters who I was proud of in
this movie was the, um, was the husband in the, um, who owned the, um, the little, the little motel
or whatever and stuff.
Yeah.
I'm so proud that, that he stood up to his wife in that movie because she was just giving
this dude the business all throughout the movie.
Every time he say something that made logical sense.
Yes.
Yes.
Just kept going against it and stuff, you know.
He was like, hey, we do have a room.
You know, you remember that dude?
He just left and stuff.
Right.
You see the sign?
No vacancy.
She's going to.
Yeah, she clicked the button.
Yeah, I'm like, come on, man.
And then when they was, um, I think there was their niece or their granddaughter,
they went to go help them with the house, go help her, um, Elvira fix a house and stuff.
And it's like, okay, she's doing a nice community thing or whatever.
And then the wife, she go over there and she's fussing.
And then the husband says, well, it's okay that they're helping it.
She says, shut up, Leslie.
I'm like, golly.
That's not even called for.
That's not even called for.
But he finally stood up till at the end.
And I was proud of him for that.
Because I think, you know, if we wasn't going to get any closure on that to see if he actually stepped up, you know,
then it's like we would have to have gotten some type of sequel to see if this dude stepped up.
because that right there, man,
that, I just thought
that was ridiculous, man, like, the way
she was talking to him. It's like, come on, man.
Like, you know,
pay attention to your husband for a little bit, you know.
But anyways,
on, I like the movie.
God who directed it,
but stood the assignment.
I don't think it was meant
the movie was meant to be taking two-two series.
So for me, it was more of a,
it was more of a comedy,
less than a horror,
But, you know.
Yeah, for sure.
If they tried to make it a little bit scary, I guess, with the uncle as the sorcerer at the end or whatever.
But, yes, I liked it.
I liked it.
All right.
Lance, what did you think?
This was a blast, man.
I can't believe I've never seen this movie before because this is the stuff of staying up late watching, you know, horror.
slash comedy
slash, you know, just
ridiculous movies, you know,
in the late 80s, early 90s,
when they would have like,
they weren't where they are now
where you get streaming everywhere,
but you actually had cable channels back then, right?
So you had all these different USA network.
They would have like,
night flight and stuff like that
where you'd show like a lot of stoner type movies
and then like some horror movies
mixed in with some comedy and stuff like that.
And this fits right in.
I will say this, I really think this storyline, and it's so funny that you mention, you know,
Brad Pitt, because I think he had something to do with this movie, too, or he was considered
for this movie.
But I think this one really inspired the movie called Two Wong Fu.
Thanks for Everything, Julie Newman.
You guys remember this one?
Yeah.
It's kind of the same story, right?
Like the total outsiders that are real, like she was going to go to Vegas and do her Vegas show.
And then, you know, they were going to be drag queens.
I think they were what going from, were they going from New York to L.A.
or the other way around?
Whatever it was, they were going cross-country and their car broke down.
But like when she first got there, everybody hated her.
But once she kind of, they realized what she was all about, which she was acceptance.
and letting people be themselves and do their own thing.
Everybody kind of loved her there at the end,
and they totally turned on the people trying to burn the witch, burn the witch.
And I thought it was really kind of cool how they did that too.
It's like, okay, you're in this little Massachusetts town,
and the law literally allows you to have somebody in a jail one night
with no trial and burner at the stake in the next day.
It's just the silliest fucking thing.
But, no, this was an absolute blast to watch.
That's how you get rid of them witches.
Yeah, I'm telling you, man, there's a lot in this.
There really is.
I mean, this movie says a lot about acceptance.
It says a lot about being your own person, doing your own thing.
Where some of the jokes corny, of course they were.
You know, when you've got like somebody holding up a hot dog saying,
does this remind you of anything?
And then a lady holding up a taco shell,
I don't know,
but you could probably stick it in here
and it would probably remind you.
I mean, it's like so over the top,
but man, it was a lot of fun to watch.
I'm really sad that I missed this one,
because this would have been a lot of fun to watch,
you know, back of the days when I was, you know,
just getting stoned after, you know,
and eight, you know,
fucking four or five hours at college,
and then eight hours.
at work. You get home at midnight.
This would have been the perfect movie
to light up the bong
and get a six-pack or something like that
and just watch it and just
fucking laugh your ass off at it.
But very, very enjoyable
film. I thought everybody
did a great job in it.
Yeah, the uncle was fucking
phenomenal. Is that
Smeagel character
started
toward the end. He was doing
the spells and turned it
to the zombie.
Yeah.
At what point is it not worth it?
Yeah.
These powers or whatever.
But I thought, yeah, all the teenage kids were great.
I love the fact that you thought they were going to save the day, but they, you know,
they fell through the roof and, like, literally landed in a jail cell right next to her.
Just everything was just so over the top.
And I really enjoyed this movie.
I'm glad we finally got a chance to.
watch it. Now the actress
that was burning her at the
stake or trying to
the main one, what
have I seen her in?
She looks so familiar.
Paris Bueller's day off.
Oh my God.
Is she the one that said the
stoners, the
potheads, the dope heads,
they all love Ferris Bueller.
Was that her?
Mm-hmm.
Oh my God, dude.
And then the other one I always remember her from is planes, trains, and automobiles.
Okay.
She's the rental car lady.
Oh, wow.
Yes, she's a gem.
This was the perfect casting.
It was just so over the top, so much fun.
Great movie.
I really enjoyed it.
Good pick.
Yeah, I had a pretty good time with this one, too, man.
It was very comical.
It was definitely more comedy than horror.
And dude, Elvira stuck it every time.
The spell that made everybody horny at the picnic?
Yeah.
Oh, that's funny.
That was funny.
Elvira was great, man.
Every line that she had was just kind of gold.
And I love her.
It was great.
You know what? At 60, whatever that she is.
70.
70.
Still hot.
Now we know why the line to see her was so long, right?
At Frightmare.
Yeah.
Also, it leads me to question the naturalness of the boobs.
But still.
Because those suckers aren't 70 for sure.
Right, right.
But, yeah, no, she was great in this.
I thought she had some one-liners that were just fucking so on point and amazing.
Oh, yeah.
I did get a little bored in it at times, but still funny and not horror, but funny.
Yeah, definitely not horror.
I mean, if Naz was on, he was saying, this is not horror, this is not horror.
But, hey, it is what it is, right?
Yeah.
Brian, what'd you think?
I love this.
I love everything Elvirus in.
She's great.
Definitely an icon, a legend.
Yeah, not horror.
I mean, there was some horror moments.
I actually thought the practical effects were pretty good on the
the casserole monster that popped out.
That looked pretty good.
Oh, yeah.
But, yeah, everybody, you know, everybody was good in it.
I didn't care for Bob.
Bob looked like a big dumb guy.
He should have been.
He should have been.
He was phony looking.
He should have been one of the goons.
Yeah, what are you going to do, right?
Yeah, and shout out to the hot dog guy from the happening was one of the goons.
What?
You don't know the hot dog guy from the happening?
I've tried to forget the happening, dude.
Speaking of Nez.
Hell of good.
Happy, hell.
speak and you shall
he shall show up just like
a demon it's nez
it happened ain't hell of good
I think I was the only one that like
that movie
oh man I try to forget that
Tavares what's going on
brother how you doing
good I'm doing good brother how about
yourself I'm still here man
we just finished our
last two best of episodes
so everyone that's been bugging me
hey they're coming
just got to put them together
I just
I just listen to your best of TV episode
which one
inspired me to check
to finally check out reservation dogs
yeah we did two episodes
regular TV and comic book TV
shows but I skipped that one
you guys done
we're on our virus tits
right now yeah
you can jump up here with us
you already did
monkey shines?
Yeah, you give us your thoughts real quick.
Yeah, you can give us a quick review and then roll into a wire.
All I remember is him coming out of like somebody's back at the end.
Was that what happened?
That's right.
Alien style.
That's the only thing I remember of that film.
I have not seen that movie in a long time.
So I really couldn't give you my thoughts on it.
But I seriously do not remember.
That's the only thing I remember in that movie.
Good part, though.
What did you think about Avara?
Yeah.
It is what it is.
I did.
There you go.
I picked up, or it's on its way, the Screen Factory one.
So I did say it when it first came out.
And, I mean, I'm just like everybody else in the country.
I love Elvira.
I met her a few times.
I thought she's an amazing woman.
Really, really nice.
She really
She really loves their fans
And
I'm surprised we never got another one
But I liked it for what it was
I love what's her name
I just think of her as Mrs. Poole from the Harper's
She was the secretary
Yeah
From Ferris Bueller
Ferris Bueller
Yeah
I can't remember her name
But her
I like her
I forgot about that
she's good at everything she does
and it was good that
she was in this but Elvira
I love the movie
it was goofy for the time
I mean in 80 was 80
88
88 yeah
I saw it when it came out
we actually saw it in the drive-in
well
it was the second movie
I can't remember the first movie
was but
from what I remember
I mean I enjoyed it I didn't like hate it
and I grew up watching Elvira on TV late at night
and then when MTV came along she was right in there with everybody
and then her movie Mistress of the Dark came out so hey
let's go let's check it out so yeah it is what it is
I'm hoping there's a lot of features on this Scream Factory
edition so I don't know I'll definitely check it out
but from what I remember of the film I did enjoy
I didn't hate it or I wouldn't have picked it up
So, but I like it.
Did you pick this one up, Brian?
The steel book.
Steel book?
Yeah.
Are you killing me?
I didn't know there was a steel book.
Where the hell was I been?
I think I'll have that one, Nez.
All right.
We're ready for scores on Elvira?
Tavarish, you want to go ahead?
Let me see.
Let me see.
scale of one to ten um
it met my
expectations um
let me see I'm gonna give it an eight
nice nice good score
Lance
yeah easy eight easy eight so much fun
so much fun as
as Nez would say and I said it
a few minutes ago not a horror
movie but that's okay
that's okay it was a great
you know late night romp
uh comedy a lot of sexual
innuendo and some mild horror and some good special effects. So yeah, definitely eight on ten.
That was a pretty good description. I'm going to give it a seven and I think pretty much
exactly what you just said though. All right. Brian? I'm going to give it an eight. I was entertained.
Love everything she's in and yeah, I'm kind of with Nez. I'm surprised they didn't do another one.
I've done several.
Seems like they would have.
I'm kind of surprised they haven't.
Nez, you got a score on this one?
Yeah, I'll give it an eight.
I mean, I did enjoy it.
Damn it, damn it, you can make me spend $31 on the steelbook.
He's too busy looking up the steelbook price.
I should have got, I should have told you when it came out.
It was like 1999 when it came out.
I didn't even know there was a steelbook.
I just thought Screen Factory did it.
because I didn't know arrow put it out.
Man.
How about a monkey shine?
You got a score for that one?
I really don't remember that one.
I mean, usually it's either hell of good or trash.
I don't remember.
I mean, I don't.
I'll watch it again maybe on a later show.
I'll tell you guys, but I really don't remember that one.
I just remember the monkey.
I just remember the monkey coming out.
Someone's back.
Yeah.
I'm going to go hella good on the Nes score.
I'm going to score it for you.
All right.
I think that's it.
Yeah, what's, what else's going on at McNaz, dude?
You got the TV episodes and what now the best movie episodes or what?
Yeah, we got our comic book movies coming and as well as a regular top 10 movies.
I did run through the horror movies.
we did last week
was it last week? Is that when we did that or a week before?
I don't remember.
Yeah, whenever.
I also threw that in there and I hyped up.
I hyped up the show.
I said, if you guys didn't listen to our word returns,
I just read my list off again over there.
But yeah, we got those two coming.
And I think next week is just a regular show.
And are we doing scream next week?
Yep.
All right, yeah.
Scream V or whatever, right?
and also a scary movie, the original one, right?
Tell you right now, 10, 10, right now.
Better than any of the screen movies.
All right, Tavaris, tell all the listeners again where we can find you.
Okay, yeah, yeah.
You can check me out on the Student in the Game podcast, wherever you listen to your podcast at.
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