The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #299: The THR Valentine’s Day Special - My Bloody Valentine (1981) & My Bloody Valentine 3D (2009)

Episode Date: February 16, 2022

This week we take a look at 1981's My Bloody Valentine as well as the 2009 remake. Cool of the Week includes Horror for Dummies Presents: Behind the Boogeyman, The Book of Boba Fett, The Peacemaker, and Ozark. Trailers include Shining Vale, Men, and Firestarter. The podcast spotlight shines on Ladies and Ligaments. And we get feedback from David Axe, Tim Davis, Franklin Correa, and Xim Vader. Thanks for listening!

Hey, this is Tom Atkins. If you want to throw me, you've got to listen to the horror returns. Ooh. Greetings, victims, for those of you delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify, go. Welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware.

This podcast contains major plot spoilers and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in whole. One at all to the horror returns. I'm Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Kevin, Brian, and Phillip. How's it going, guys? So we got the band back together. You beat me to it. It's nice.

Nice to be back. Appreciate you guys taking care of business last week. I left my ass off on the waxwork. Talk to the kind of wheelchair with a cardboard tank. And he was ready for battle Oh man Nez, what's your rating?

Hold on. Was there more than one? Waxworth? Yeah, it's two. Okay. Oh, okay. I've only seen the first one. I actually saw that one in the theater.

From what I remember, just to be safe, I'll go seven. Yeah, I think that's what we gave it. Is that the last time you saw it? in like 1980 or whatever? Well, I saw it. I know I saw it in the theater and then I saw it on VHS.

Damn, you got a good memory. That was a long time ago. I mean, the only reason I really wouldn't seen this is because Deborah Foreman from Valley Girl, she was in it. Right. I was the only reason I went and seen that. Oh, is that Billy?

Let's try Billy was in it too from Gremlin's. Yeah. You got to watch it for the little. little dude every time he bows it's like oh man all right real quick on um i think his name was meet mechew i think that was his name i don't know i thought it was tattoo for a minute

but it's not no i mean i think that was like his real name he was uh plus he was in like um big top pee we and a bunch of other films oh he also played um he was alf in the tv show yeah um which makes me laugh at him harder he he scared me when i was a little kid i mean nothing, nothing against little people, but I was like, when I was younger, when I used to go to, like, Barnum and Bailey to the circus, he always had his own little, his little part in the circus. Other than, yeah, and here's Mechie, the smallest man in the world.

And he's dancing around when they're bringing out all the animals. And he's on, he's dancing on top of an elephant or something. And then he does whatever he does throughout the show. but I was always I don't know though he was always scary to me as I was a little kid everyone

I wasn't older to understand but I was always scared of him and I remember going when we were looking at the little to buy a souvenir or buy a t-shirt or whatever there was a poster of him like a life size poster you could buy

of him hanging there and I remember staring at it and I was like oh no I don't think I want that hanging in my room but But, yeah, that, that, when he, I remember when he popped up in it, I was like, whoa, he's in it. Right. For like a second, I went back to being a little, little kid, and I went, whoa, it's that guy.

But then I had seen him already in Big Top Peeway, and I liked him in that. So, but yeah, it was good to see him. I haven't, yeah, again, I haven't seen this. I was on Tooby. I guess I got to watch it again. But I had not seen it in a real long term. But I do remember going, oh, it was all right. I didn't like hate it.

Part two's on 2B2. I didn't bother with that one. Is it worth it? I'd never seen it. I know what's his name from Gremlin's Billy? Was it Zach Gallagalligan? Zach Gala Fanakis? Yeah.

He's back for it. He's way funnier. Yeah, shout out to Nightmare Christy. He's down there. Well, he was earlier today. We're doing this on a Saturday. he was in Las Vegas at the Nightmare Toys. He was doing a signing for them down there.

If you guys are ever in a quick little plug for Nightmare Toys. If you ever in the Las Vegas area, look up Nightmare Toys. If you love just horror shit and all that, there's tons of junk in there, toys, collectibles, masks. I bought a few hockey masks there. Do they have, like, weird hours? I want to say. No, I think it's a standard open at 12 or whatever and close at six. I don't know, something like that.

Last time I was in Vegas, they were closed. Oh, man. Oh, I mean, you know what? I really, I'm not really sure. We went there when there was a signing, so. Oh, okay. I'm not really sure on how they, how they're running their stuff there. I hold up a quick and.

Yeah, I'm trying to look at it. Let me see what it's. I just bought some... I bought some stuff. Oh, yeah, it's way up there off the strip and everything. It's like a few blocks from the stratosphere. Okay. All right, I got you.

So it's not quite to downtown then? No. It's... All right. It veers off. Those roads there are crazy. So, but... Yeah, there's a lot of sketchy places in Vegas.

I thought it was sketchy. What a surprise. I thought it was sketchy, because I thought it was sketchy, because I wasn't really sure of the area. It's not a bad spot. It's not on the main. There's like a main street and then like the block over, it's kind of behind some stuff. But there's like on that main street, there's like antique stores and barbecue places and a bunch of bars with all the outdoor dining type of stuff.

So, no, I think it's a pretty safe area because I was a little iffy at first. I was like, where are we going? because I don't know Vegas at all. I could take you to some sketchy places. That's where you want to go. No, I'm good. I used to go to Vegas with my brother like every year. So I got, I ended up in some different story for a different time, but I ended up in some sketchy places.

All right. It says Monday through Saturday, 10 a.m. to 8 p.m. Sundays, 12 to 6. So I don't know, maybe something was going on. They go to a lot of conventions. They'll be at a Texas Frightmare. So definitely go up and meet Nightmare Christy. She's awesome. She's really cool to talk to.

Follow her on her. I don't know why I'm plugging her so much. I love her because she's awesome. It's all good. Yeah. No, I mean, it sounds like a legit place. Yeah. She does.

I've seen some of her pictures. Yeah. She does some since the online stuff. So she's. She's beautiful. I love her. Nightmare Toys, 1309, South Commerce Street, Las Vegas, Nevada. Yeah, that's the address. Or just go to Nightmare Toys.com and see anything.

I just picked up... What did I buy? Oh, I bought a T-shirt. It says, I love monsters, and I bought an Eddie Van Halen, Funko Pop, because they cannot find it anywhere. Damn. Some hard-to-find shit, sounds like. I couldn't find that one.

Um, I, they said it was in the stores and I was seeing pictures and I never saw it anywhere. But yeah, when we went in there, we mainly just went for the signing, but I, my son and I went nuts. He had like tons of money burning holes in his pocket because he bought a few hockey masks. Um, a few figures, a couple shirts. Um, and just some of the random, uh, artwork that you can hang on the wall. There was a, there was a lot of stuff down there. I was like, shit, if I'm driving through Vegas on my way home, I'm definitely stopping there and loading up because there was a ton of stuff I wanted, but I didn't want to carry it all on the airplane. He wanted to buy a sign machete from Derek Mears.

That was a sign name we went to. He wanted to buy one of those. I was like, dude, how are you going to get that home? Yeah. That's not going to make it on the plane. Yeah, he was like, well, we'll just check it. I said, we got to wrap it up, find a box for it. I said, I ain't going through all that shit.

So he was kind of bummed. Plus, you don't need a machete. Should I ask if they could ship it? It was from him, not from their store. They bought some, and it's probably way more than what. He was selling them for 70 bucks. The store probably up charges a little bit. Yeah, so.

Okay. Plus it had Kane Hodder's signature on it. Then he was like, yeah, you're paying for mine, and you get his signature for free. So I'm sure the, if they bought some from, yeah, if they bought some, I'm sure they're going to, hey, well, he's got both of these guys' signatures and then really hike it. But yeah, no. But yeah, definitely go to, if you're in Las Vegas, check out Namer Toys. All right. Is that your cool of the week?

Um, no, my cool of the week was the final episode of, um, Mandalorian. Oh, no. We can't, you guys can't talk. Or I got to walk away if you do. No, I'm just saying it, it was, it was awesome. It was. The season for me, it went up and down. It wasn't like every episode was like, oh my God, I was badass.

But it just, it went up and down. I was like, what are you guys trying to do with this? Right. There was a couple things I thought were awesome, but then there were some things I was like, really? But I don't know. I mean, I kind of see what they're doing. There's definitely going to be more to the story.

And it was cool to see Mando, Din Jarin pop up in this So I thought that was really cool But yeah I thought the show It was what it was It went up and down

But it ended strong And there isn't There's an extra scene After all the Oh okay For this final episode So just the final one Yeah so stick around

All right Somebody somebody told me It was kind of like The Mandalorian season 2.5 Pretty much But it was still good Real tied together Well, we kind of expected that, though.

I haven't actually watched the finale yet, but I'm excited about it. My son wants to watch it, and he's had homework and baseball practice and all that shit, so we haven't got around to it yet. Was that all you had? Yeah, that was the only thing. Okay. Well, then my only thing is going to be the peacemaker. I'm still loving it.

I haven't seen any of it. Dude, it's great. You'll love it. I haven't either. I'm so behind on everything, man. It's funny and entertaining. It just runs right into an extension of the suicide squad, which still is probably the best thing that DC's done in a while.

So I'm loving every second of it. Nice. All right. I guess Michael of the week has to be Ozark. The new season is out, and I guess they're doing it half and half, kind of like Walking Dead style, the way they're stretching seasons out, one season takes a break.

And AMC does that with a lot of shit, though, too, because they're doing that with Better Call Saul, and it's like, we've been waiting, what, almost three years now for the second half of the final season? Well, he had a heart attack, though. Oh, I didn't know that. Yeah, they had to pause filming. He's got off his ass and make some more goddamn episodes.

Spock! Well, Ozark's my clue of the week. I won't say too much about it if you're watching it. It kind of just came out on Netflix a couple of weeks ago. So, you know, a lot of people might not have seen it yet. But that and Fear of the Walking Dead, pretty much the only two shows I'm watching now trying to catch up. I've got so many, you guys have ever running into this problem right now

where there's so many shows you're trying to watch, you're having to like keep a list of them, yeah like all three of you just mentioned shows that I've only like Bubba Fed and Peacemaker I've only seen the first episodes and I haven't even started the new season of Ozark because it's just it's too much oh wait real quick here's one speaking of Walking Dead I started this last night with my wife

the one that's on Netflix all of us are dead yeah set pretty good South Korean one Yeah, I don't watch the first episode, and it's slowly moving, so hopefully with through the, I think there's 12 episodes. Oh, no. It looks like it's, yeah, 12 episodes. I don't know what's starting it, but this is the beginning of, of course, a zombie outbreak, but well, they kind of explain it, but we're not really sure exactly on. what it is so far in this first episode. But it hooked me, so I'm all in.

One of my friends watched this. She said she just couldn't stop watching and zoomed through all 12 episodes. I was like, damn, must be nice. But yeah, the first episode was good, so I'm in on that one. Brian, you get a laundry. Oh, Amityville update. Yes, the great Amityville watch of 2022. This week, it's Amityville Vampire.

Are these all the new ones? Are the newer ones? Yeah, I'm kind of going backwards. Okay. What about Amityville Karen? Have you seen that one? It's not out yet. It's not out yet.

Okay. That's coming to. But Amityville Vampire. Not good, but I was slightly, slightly, I'm doing air quotes. A little bit more entertained than the... obvious ones. There was a little bit more there was a little bit more sexy time in here.

Yeah. A lot of blood. A lot of blood and they did a little bit of better job on the practical effects. Nobody in here that I recognize from anything else. But yeah,

it was a movie. They filmed it and they had actors. Did they have anything to do with Amityville? They showed the house. You know how they do, Nez. They show the house real quick for like 10 seconds and then

you get the rest of the movie. But in the one in the police station, they didn't even show it at all. Oh, they just told you they was in Amityville. Yeah. So that's this week. Next week will be Amityville Poulter guys. that's an older one right yeah okay uh let's see uh this uh dropped a couple weeks on uh hb o max and hulu at the same time was uh giermo del torres nightmare alley

right right uh filmed's great look great great cast it had bradley cooper ron peroman kate blanchette uh tony koret just a whole bunch of people but like I said with the Netflix movie Oxygen that was done by Alex Aja Right, right, I liked it though Yeah, not what I want from Guillermo

Big fan of Big fan of Guillermo's You know, I like his monster designs His practical effects But this movie was just too slow for me And it's like almost two and a half hours Is it worth the Best Picture nomination?

Uh for me story wise no but the way it's like I said it's well made and well acted is it was just a little too slow and not not what I expect from him is this kind of a different story it's basically Bradley Cooper's he kind of gets a job at a carnival and he you know he helps out this person helps at that person and then he kind of hooks up with this one guy who does the you know the the kind of i don't want to call him con artist but like the the people that do the like i can tell what you're thinking and stuff like that yeah con artist yeah okay yeah well basically he teaches him how to do that but then he also has this book with other stuff in it and he says you know this other stuff you don't you don't

ever mess with that you don't you know what they call spook shows you know and he kind of takes what he learns and becomes super rich and I don't think famous but he's making a lot of money but then he gets there's a scene he gets called out on basically coning people with simple tricks and then he kind of uses stuff from the book and

it kind of goes from there and then it's just I think it was just a little too drawn out for me okay so you're saying there's a book where he can really do magic or something I'm not going to say Okay. You like, I'm going to watch.

I started my Oscar watch. I mean, I had seen these. Same here. I've seen three of them, no, four of them, before they were announced as Best Picture. So now I've got to get through the rest. But out of the ones that I've seen, I'm picking Liquorce Pizza for Best Picture.

Oh, the pedophile movie. Yeah, that one. I like that movie. Whoa. Is it a Petophile movie? As you call it. You got to watch it. I mean, they don't show anything.

inappropriate well in a way it is but it's a love it's a love story the girl is in her 20s and the the dude she falls in love with is like 15 16 or something like that lucky lucky kid that's what I would have said so I mean that's because I was because I remember I was sitting there watching it and I was like wait a minute this girl's older than him because you're kind of like all right well that's cool I hope they she does end up liking him And then she does. And then I'm like, wait a minute. This isn't right.

Yeah, this isn't right. I mean, no one's getting mad about this, but I'm different times, everyone. Well, in the movie, different times. In the time set in the movie, not. But the movie was good. I liked it. But I did watch West Side Story. I love you, Stephen, but I should have left that shit alone.

Uh-oh. Oh, boy. All right. I mean, I like musicals, but. some musicals you need to leave alone. Like all of them. It's a classic. I mean, they tried to give us the sequel to,

they gave us the Blues Brothers 2000. No, that's a left it alone. Ghost writers in the sky, though. That was kind of a fun segment, wasn't it? Left it alone with the original. There's only one musical. That's a little shot for horror. I will allow Cry Baby, but anything else?

No. A little Johnny Depp action, huh? Blue Brothers. Blue Brothers, to me, is the best musical. And after that, I would go Greece. All right. I'll buy that. This is the musical show?

Greece, too. Sure. The musical return. The music return. Greece, too. Let's do it for our country. You remember that? Yeah.

For the old red, white, it in the blue. That's right. And what was that other one? No. production. It was like an after-school special, man. I never realized how inappropriate sexual those songs are. I mean, especially in Greece, I didn't, as a little kid, I didn't get it.

But as I got older and singing it along, I'm like, wait a minute, wait, what? He just called his car a pussy wagon? Yeah, Greece's lightning. Yeah, he's going to get off his rocks. And I was like, whoa, wait a minute. Brian, I feel another musical show coming on. I feel it, Brian. I feel my first episode I'll miss in almost six years.

That's true, Brian. You're a rock. So, Brian, your cool of the week was the Amityville Vampire then. No, my cool of the week is I'm going to give a shout out to horror for dummies. The latest episode they put out behind the boogeyman episode two did it on a leather face. Oh, nice. Great work.

Great work. Great episode. A lot of work went into that. So definitely, if you're not listening to Horror for Dummies, go check them out. They are streaming wherever you want to listen to your podcast. So cool the week. And definitely on time for the upcoming Texas Chan. I can't saw a masker movie on Netflix.

All right. Yeah, you can even catch them and us on Spotify. Am I right, guys? Yep, and you can now review us on Spotify. Ah, all right. Review us. All right. Well, uh, rate and review E Society.

We're on Spotify. Yes. Our anchor, our anchor stuff. Yeah, I think, I think, I think Joe Rogan already has enough, enough ratings. What do you guys think? Yeah, we're not going to pull our. million reviews or something.

No, what's that? No, pulling our stuff from that. No, no. We don't have any, we don't have any we don't have any plan on the Aves jokes here. All right, cool. I don't have any money. First of all.

We don't have no money. Brian, we immediately went, that was kind of racist. I shouldn't have said that. What did you say? I said, oh, Joe Rogan. He immediately after that particular story was like, that was kind of racist.

That shouldn't have said that. that. Yeah, you can, if you see the video, you see his face. It's just like, oh, maybe I shouldn't have. But, like, like Lance said, we're not, we're not getting $100 million. So, yeah. You want to give us $100 million? Yes, definitely.

Break it up into four checks. All right, Brian. Horror headlines. Yes. Evil did the game. Finally gets a release date, May 13th. I mean the Xbox and PS5

you know all those new consoles that you can't buy you're at well I've never even seen any of those things in the store since they've been out I saw one one time it was amazing it was gone

it was a glow around it even if I did see it out my day I just look at it because I wouldn't be able to buy it and I got other things to drop money on but I do want one so if Microsoft or PlayStation

or no Sony if you guys are listening send four of us said four of them. Oh yeah they're all listening believe me we'll write in the video we got our episodes pulled music well send them to us

we'll let you know how they are all right I don't know how to say this show's name is it Chapel Chapel how do you say Chapel Waith. Yeah.

Epic is renewed for a second season. I say, is that bloody well so. I heard it was pretty good. I haven't checked it out yet. I haven't either, man. Again, I'm keeping a fucking sticky note, which is about to turn into two sticky notes on the side of my computer at work

for all the shit TV shows that I still need to watch. I need to just take like a day off and stay home. home and watch TV from like 6 a.m. to midnight. Well, Lance, this next one is for you. I got some casting news for the upcoming anthology series, Tales of the Walking Dead. Okay. Terry Cruz, Parker Posey, and Jillian Bell have all joined the cast. That ought to be interesting.

Parker William? Yes, please. They also said characters from past seasons of the Walking Dead will also show up. I forgot the actor's name that played Tyrese. Okay. I guess there's a lot of rumors there's going to be an episode of him. Hmm. So he did not.

I don't know. He seems like a strange choice. I mean, not that they wouldn't love to have him on there. I'm just kind of surprised he didn't. yeah i thought he was a strange choice for what was that uh expendables but i actually like really liking him that one i can see more than the walking dead yeah but at that time he didn't really do a lot of action he did a lot of that's true he was just the buff guy in comedies yeah which he does great at like white chicks when he was on the ecstasy with the glow sticks that's one of my

favorite scenes in any movie. Oh, it's great. I love Harry Cruising. Get the whistle, blow on the whistle. Okay. The only movie news I got is Joseph Gordon Levitz is he's going to play cult leader Jim Jones

in the upcoming movie White Knight. Was that a... Damn, what was the city that they massacre? Oh, Jones Town. Yeah. Is that that one? Okay. Yeah, which is one of those things

one of those things you know we always get like two similar movies coming out at the same time because we got that Leonardo DiCaprio movie where he's playing Jim Jones oh wow so that's happening again that's a thing again

yeah they did that with Dommer I think they had like two Dahmer movies at the same time and I I don't think I saw one of them but every time anybody was talking about it I thought they were talking about the one that I watched. Yeah, I only seen the one where, what was the Hawkeye was playing Dahmer.

Oh, see, I haven't seen that one. That one was ruthless. Yeah. Yeah? Trilled a hole in that guy's head and put in a... That's right. That's right. I remember...

Hany freeze. God damn. Shouldn't be laughing about that. And non-horror news, right after you just said the horror show. Star Wars. Wars, Obi-1 Canovi release date, May 25th. Yep.

And that Andor series from the Star Wars andor series, they already greenlit it for season two. And that show, that season one doesn't even have a release day yet. Now, these are all live action, right? Yes. Okay, cool. I kind of don't want to watch any more animated Star Wars. You'll probably get some more.

All right Obey 1 I watched that little thing That they threw on On Disney Plus And they were talking to Ewan McGregor Saying yeah it's cool We're gonna be on Tattoine

But those are gonna be some other things Because these Jedi hunters Are gonna be coming after them And he's still garden Luke With the Lars Uncle Owen and Aunt Beru Um Uncle Owen

is that one guy from warrior crazy uncle owen um he was in plus he was in the prequel of the thing and a bunch of other movies yeah he was probably thought he's having a stroke or he's smelling toast he was in the green night yeah what the hell was his name no get it because he caught on fire and waka waka i'm sorry he was in uh lances's favorite movie the night comes or whatever that movie was. Whoa. Oh, geez. Welcome to the porn returns. Yes. Oh, what comes that night?

Yeah, that's what I'm not. I was thinking when you said night, I was thinking like it's a knight in shining armor. That was the green knight. He's all over the map. Anyway, yeah, he's reprising his role as Joel Edgerton. Yeah, him. Ah.

With that, this is what I want, because in the original Star Wars in 1977, and it was Star Wars, that's it in 1977. He had said, other than he didn't want Luke to be around Ben, and he just says he's a crazy old man, and then all that, so leave him alone. So I want to see why he doesn't like,

Ben. Something happened between them and for him to say. Because if if we didn't even get this show, what we know so far is Obi-1 dropped them, him, Luke off to them and that at the end of Revenge of the Sith and that was it. And then we see it later in Star Wars. So we don't see that. We don't

see why Owen doesn't like Obi-1. So they better show it in this show on why he doesn't like him. Maybe he was just trying to protect Luke from becoming a Jedi. Yeah. Like have a nice simple farming life, you know? No, something happened. That's bullshit.

I want some... Well, I'm sure it's all going to be covered. It's got to be, right? It better. And this is the thing that I'm kind of frowning upon the most. Hayden Christensen is coming back to reprise his role. Oh, no. God. A.k.a. Darth Vader.

That's cool. If you're going to use him in flashbacks. And then even Eul O'O. McGregor's, who knows, maybe we'll fight again. I'm like, you can't fight again. Because in Star Wars, when they finally meet each

other and a Death Star before he strikes down Obi-1, Vader telling us, look, the last time we met, I was but the learner. Now I'm the master. Right, right. No. I mean, so I think it's supposed to

be a dream sequence. I remember watching some videos on this. Maybe you forgot they fought. No, no, they better not, or give me a good damn fucking excuse why they're fighting in this new show that you didn't even talk about in that way. Right.

So, and they better not say, oh, the rest of them are all a dream. And then Obi-1 wakes up and he's still on Tatween Garden Luke. Or not even so much a dream sequence, but like a meditation training session. That's what I'm saying. I can see him doing that. If he's sitting there

meditating and he sees Darth Vader and okay, I'll buy that, but don't maybe, don't make something up. Maybe in the series he still doesn't consider himself a master yet. Well, he

was pretty much done with his training from Palpatine. Maybe he meant, I don't know, trying to throw ideas out there. Just bring Ryan Johnson into direct and what can you. Hell no. Keep him away from Star Wars and don't give him his trilogy he fucking ruined it.

I think they quietly took that from him. Good. He deserves him. We'll just not mention it and people forget that we were supposed to do. Flash Jedi was bullshit, man. He dropped the ball on that movie. I'm looking at the cast list. There's some interesting people

on the Obi-1. Sun King, he was Han in Fast and Furious movies. Oh, he's in it? Cool. Yeah, O'Shea Jackson Jr. Little Ice. You know, Kumel Nunjani, which is he's oddly top build on IMDV above everybody else. Yeah, well, I mean, it's a little early to say who's going to get the most screen time, right? I don't know, but he needs his own eternal.

Because he was awesome. Over the title character. It's a good cast for the most part. Yeah. Hayden Christensen, he's top build over Ewan. Mm-hmm. Oh, the dude from Good Time and Uncut Gems. This is the guy that directed those movies, right?

Benny Safdi, isn't that the director? Of the other movies? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I thought, I could be wrong, but I thought him and maybe his brother directed those movies. Yeah, they did. Okay, so that's kind of a strange choice, right? Well, I thought he was good in good times. Yeah, it was really good in it.

I'm just, I don't know, I'm just kind of curious that I guess Disney just has unlimited money to spend and they're going to spend it no matter what, you know? I don't know, but Kingo and Kuran or Kuran, they need their own Disney Plus series because they fucking ruled in Eternals. They were hell of good. I'm sure it's coming. I'm sure it's coming, man. They're the only ones I want to see a TV show about. I mean, I love the movie. I thought everyone was in it.

Angelina, you have my heart. But damn. Kumal and Johnny and his, what do you call him? His valet. Those, they were fucking hell of funny. They said. He's pretty funny, but there's something about me that, something about him that kind of bothers me.

I don't know what it is. Yeah. The Bollywood sequences or, I don't know, that would bother Brian. No, just him and everything that he does. There's something like, smarmy about his face. Yeah. Smarm me.

You know. He can't help that. I know. Grins to the face. But I... You want to get my horse? What was that? Did you watch Stuber?

That shit was hell of funny. Yeah. Yeah, it actually was pretty good. Yeah. And he was good in Stuber. And I like him in most stuff that I see him in, and he's really funny. But there's just like... Yeah, the face he makes when he's...

Yeah. Yeah, something with his face. I don't know what it is. But I heard a lot of those... That sounds worse than it is, I promise. I heard a lot of those characters from Eternals. They're going to pop up into other movies, but likely there won't be another actual Eternals movie.

Yeah, I'm okay with that. I'm fine with that. Well, you didn't like Spider-Man, so... Not really. Nah. I just watched that again. How did you not like that one? It wasn't the best...

It wasn't the best Spider-Man movie, but it was good. Let me get through my two sticky notes of shit that I've got to watch it and all the Oscar movies. Were you mad when you went to the theater that day? Do what? Were you mad when you went to the theater that day? I don't think so. I was kind of excited for the movie. Okay.

Is that it for the news? Yeah. You didn't like Spider-Man, so we'll do it at that. All right. So we'll go through the multiverse and take a little trip. Down to the trailer park. We bring you the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Brian, what's our first new trailer tonight?

We are going to start with TV. A new horror comedy series coming to star is called Shining Bale. Of course, let's start with the synopsis. A family moves to a small town into a house in which terrible atrocities have taken place, but no one seems to notice except for Pat, who's convinced she's either depressed or possessed. Turns out the symptoms are exactly the same. Depressed or possessed. Sounds like a band.

Depressed and what was it good? Depressed or possessed. Depressed and possessed. That's not a bad man. That's a medical romance cover band. This stars. That's a good one, Phil. Courtney Cox, Greg Kinnear, Rob Morrow, Gus Bernie, and Mee.

Barras Sorvino. Yes, please. Barisorvino. Wow. Where did she be in? No doubt. She was in that one action movie. That's the last thing I saw her in.

Yeah. What action movie? And it was in the theater, too. Like recently? Within a few years. Oh. Wasn't she in that movie or that TV show about the alien takeover? Which one?

All right. I don't know. I don't know. I can't remember. I can't remember what the hell is called. It was a movie she popped up in and I was like, what? She's in this? I'm trying to.

Well, we don't know horror, so, you know. We don't know. Any musicals? Has she been in any musicals? We may have to change the whole show format, Brian. She was like a cop. What the hell was? I'm trying to...

Oh, man. Crime story. Stuber. That's what she was in. Yeah. She was talking about that. She was one of the cops in it. Really? I don't remember her at all in that movie. I think we're going to have to watch Stubber for the show.

Yeah. I didn't realize it was her. Did anybody realize it was her? I did when I was watching it, but at first I was I didn't know if she got, she got, like, work on herself, like, on her nose or a facelift or something. And I was like, fuck, that's Mirosavino. Academy Award winner, Mara Sorvino. I mean, I don't know, because she looked like Mara Servino and this.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Maybe, I don't know. Maybe they just, it was a bad day at the office. I don't know. But at first I didn't realize that was hers. I was shit, that's Marisovino. But, yeah, Stuber, that's what she was in. Shit, now I want to watch that movie.

Do I have it? All right. Well. Well, I think I do. Shining Vale, what did you guys think? I'm in. Based off of Marisovino and Courtney Cox. No, I was on Courtney Cox.

I was in. And Gray Caneer, I'm in. And then Marisovini, not really in. Yeah. I like the whole, the whole aspect of is she, like they said, is she depressed or possessed. I like that whole aspect of the show. And I like Greg Kinnear. I think he's funny when he does funny stuff.

So I'm in. Looks like there's going to be some sexy time in it too. So I'm in. I'm in. Well, Courtney Cox's face is pretty scary. So that works. So, I was literally out. I'm out, guys.

I'm out. No, put this on one of your sticky notes. This ain't going on the sticky note, man. This looks like a rip-off of American horror story. There are so many scenes in this. trailer that reminded me of American Horror Story season one. There was a couple of things I saw that reminded me of other seasons. It's like they're just trying to capitalize.

But I would say you weren't really on board of yellow jackets when I first brought it up. I haven't seen it. Not at all, but I love it. I love it. I love the very last minute that scene where... I haven't seen it. No, no, no, no. I'm not done.

I'm fucking with you, Ness. I'm not going to say a thing. But the last few episodes of that show are the best. It does pick up steam. I'm just saying you. You got to at least give the first couple episodes a try. I probably will. Yeah, I'll watch it, but it's not exactly on my list of shit to watch.

It didn't really grab me. Well, it is coming to stars March 6. Now, this next movie, on the other hand. Well, let's see if we all agree. because it was a teaser. We didn't really get a whole lot, but it's the new 824 movie Men. I'm in.

A young woman goes on. You had me at Alex Garland. I don't need to know any more than that. He's never done anything bad for me at all. Even that TV show Devs. I was out. I tapped out of that. You did?

Yeah, it was just. I loved everything he did. Annihilation. I know you guys all love that. Yeah. Yeah, ex machina. Annihilation. What's the genius?

I mean. Ex Machina is one of the best movies ever. As I'm awesome. Yeah, my son, Mikey and I went to see that. Annihilation with all the sexy women that were scientists going into the loaves at the shimmer. I haven't seen it. Oh, really? It's good.

Yeah, that was on my top of the. I have it. I haven't watched it yet. Nez. Come on, dude. They were supposed to make two more. It's a trilogy. It's a trilogy, and I read all three books.

And believe it or not, they get weirder and weirder. Like, every single book is weirder than the one before. So I would have loved to have seen that trilogy come through. All right. Let me read the synopsis here. A young woman goes on a solo vacation to the English countryside after the death of her ex-husband. It's it for the synopsis.

Didn't get you a lot there, huh? starring Jesse Buckley, Rory Keneer. If you guys remember, Rory Kineer, he fucked a pig in Black Mirror. Oh, yeah. For the very first episode. Yeah. Never getting rid of that one, buddy. How you start a show off.

I didn't get a whole lot out of this teaser trailer for me to say I'm in, but because it's Alex Garland, that's why I'm in. Yes. I will agree with everything. you just said. I just like those weird, these weird movies, so that's what I'm like I'm in. Right. But I have been steered wrong with a trailer, oh, this looks good, and then I see the movie,

and it's boring as hell, and nothing happens. So, but. They're kind of three cast members on IMDB. But this director's got a record. That's all they made. That's like, what's his name? If he, like his films, the guy that did Hereditary. that hell's his name

Ari Oster Yeah him If he see his name on there I'm in Yeah You're in no matter what Right Yeah so he

Is that got depressed I don't know The interview I saw A lot of those movies Are based off Of personal experiences Yeah It was his

That was his love of story In Midsomar Yeah So I don't know I guess that's how you do Look at Adele Man

She could fucking that guy did her dirty and she fucking cashed in. And Taylor Swift. Her too. My heartbreak doesn't give me millions of dollars. I guess I got to sing about it. So it sounds like we're all in. I got to work this carefully.

We're all in on men. What's the timestamp on that? It's raining mid. All right, May 20th, and I believe this will be a theater release. That's kind of surprising. And our final trailer, which just recently announced

will not only be in the theaters, we'll be coming to the Peacock streaming. NES's favorite streaming service. Yep. Fix their damn WWE section. Yeah, fix that shit.

Well, I heard a rumor W.W.E. is going to be sold off. You guys heard that rumor? Yeah. positioning themselves to be sold. Huh. Maybe Disney will buy them. That would

make sense. Wouldn't it? No. No. Think about it. Sell it to somebody that that loves the business. Yeah, Disney would get rid of wrestling if they could, I think. Don't sell it to someone that just wants to make money.

Sell it to someone that knows wrestling. Yeah. And is about the business and is about equal opportunities for everybody involved, all employees, not just stop pushing the fucking. Welcome to the wrestling returns. Stop pushing these motherfuckers that we see. every fucking single week. There's plenty.

I've said this many, many times. There's plenty of talent in the back. Bring them forward. Listen to seeing him punk. We're going to have this guy. We're going to have this guy wrestle this guy every week for the next six months. Yeah. And then we're going to bring this guy back and then give him a belt.

Every time he comes back. Yeah, we're talking to you, Brock. Yeah, shit. But don't you. Is he still in there? Yeah, I'm telling you. He came back in. And within a week, they put the belt back on him.

How fucking old is Brock? I don't know. He caught one of the McMans doing something, because I don't know. They pay him millions of dollars, and he doesn't even have to be on TV every week. No, cut that hair. I kind of like the braid on his head. I don't. It looks stupid, man.

His little lumberjack look he has now. Tom, they need... Hey, you saw that one episode of Smackdown where he was dressed like a cowboy? Yeah. He talks a lot more. I know that. I've noticed that.

He doesn't just stand there and... Well, if you got paid, like they pay him, you talk a whole bunch on the mic, too. For the love of mankind. All right. Yeah, elimination chamber is up next, everyone. So listen to that show. Yep.

Firestarter. remake from Blumhouse. I'm in. It looks pretty good. I was in before I looked at it. Lance, did you read this story? Lance tapped out when we were talking about us. Taped out on us?

Yeah. Let me read a synopsis real quick. I'm sure people have seen Fire Starter, but for those who didn't, a young girl tries to understand how she mysteriously gained the power to set things on fire with her mind. the star is Zach

Efron, Gloria Rubin Ryan, Kira Armstrong, Sidney Lemon, and Michael Gray Eyes. Everybody check out Blood Quantum. Directed by Keith Thomas. Philip Keith Thomas directed that movie we reviewed the Vail.

The Vigil. The Jewel. Yeah. So I'm in. This looks like it's going to be a good retelling of the story. and everybody, I have no problem with anybody in it. So, I'm in.

Well, it's got no Academy Award winners in it. So, but I'm in. Because the 1984 version is cheesy as it is. I mean, it had the firepower, pun intended. But this one, I know a lot of people don't like Zach Ephron. I've always liked him. Me too, dude. He's good.

Yeah, he's a cool guy. I wish I had his discipline. I'm surprised he's not. That, too. I'm surprised he's not a superhero yet. Yeah. Yeah. No kidding.

Welcome to the Zach Efron hour. But yeah. Yeah. And he's kind of like Idris Elba. Think about it. He's never had any really big roles, right? He has a new movie that I heard a lot of people are saying is good called Gold. Just came out a few weeks ago.

It's like a survival thriller. where he's in the desert Yeah He's got 17 again That's hell of good I love that movie All right The neighbors or whatever that one was saying

Baywatch she was awesome In that We're all in agreement We're in agreement We're going to give this one a shot Oh fuck and dirty grandpa He was awesome Oh that was so funny

There you go He wasn't the best actor in that movie though But Lance, before you tapped out from our wrestling conversation, Nez was asking if you, have you read the story? Oh, of Fire Starter? Yeah. Yeah, absolutely. I've read every single Stephen King book except maybe the last two.

And I've got... How does the story hold up to the original movie? Pretty close. I mean, the main character that was after him. I think he was an Academy Award winner, right? Nez? Martin Sheen? I'm talking about the main bad guy?

Yeah, it was Martin Sheen. Martin Sheen, no, that was the good guy, right? He was the main bad guy. Okay, but who was the guy that ran the... George Seatley Scott... There you go. There you go. The changeling. Okay.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. They changed his character quite a bit. But other than that, I mean, it was... Ah, it was pretty close. It was pretty damn close. And this one looks pretty close, too, from what I can tell. I mean, the main thing is they start out at the... you know, the shop, which is where the, you know, the guys study people.

Yeah, the men in black. If they keep the shop in here, I would love to see this turn into like an ongoing. And here I am talking about all the TV shows, but I'd love to see a TV series about the shop where they find different people with powers and stuff like that and, you know, go around and analyze strange happenings and stuff like that. agents of shield yeah yeah I know but they all king did at first in his book so I'd love to see a spin-off series is it just me or does it seem like Zach Ephron's character doesn't have any powers uh it doesn't look like it or maybe we just haven't seen it I don't I know to I knew that the mother had powers I knew that his wife had powers in the book I'm I'm not

sure he did. I think the wife did and the daughter. And the movie the movie had both of him did. Him and David Lachke. Yeah, I don't remember. You know what? I got to reread. I'm going to reread it before the movie comes out, but I do not remember him having powers. They, it was

dumb. Yeah, not Keith David, but the other one. Yeah. It was him and Heather Lachler. Right. They were, they were test subjects for the program. Yep. All right. Well, definitely going to reread the book before I watch this, I assure you. So what's the release date on this, Brian?

Heather be thy name. May 13. I just watched those. You pick up the Steelbook? No, I missed it. Anyway, continue. May 13th in theaters and streaming on Peacock same day. Yes.

They needed a remake of this one. If you're going to remake one fucking Stephen King movie, this is a good one to do it. Yeah. Although that one, it was cheesy, the original, but it was still really good. It's probably my favorite student king things. Yeah, I still enjoy it. I mean, Drew Barrymore was throwing fireballs at people.

Yeah, you can't go wrong with Art Carney, so. And she kind of looks like a little shit that would do that. And what's her name? Nurse Ratchet. She was in the original. And I think I've seen the little girl in something And Huggy Bear from Starsky and Hutch The little girl was in the Tomorrow War

Okay Hell of good Yeah, I wasn't bad She was in Black Widow She was a young What was her name? Yelena Oh, I got you, that makes sense

And She looks very drool. Barry Moorey. Yeah. And I kind of like that the little scene where it kind of makes it seem like she's going to go bad when she said she doesn't want to hurt anybody, but when she does it, it kind of feels good. Yep. So maybe might be some little changes here and there's some little twists. I don't know, but sounds like we're all in.

That's a chick from Succession? With the booty. I guess. I was wondering who she was. All right. Yeah, I'm in. And, yeah, Michael Grayey's. I mean, I'm in.

But it looks good. I mean, from what they showed, I just watched a trailer before we started talking about this. But I'm in. I think it looks good. I mean, this is one of those ones that they can do, can't do any worse than the original. Again, the original one's good. It's cheesy. But that was.

You're talking about Sidney Lemon. Yeah. I was talking about Sarah Snuck. No. Someone else. Redhead with the... No. No, not that one.

But I'm in. I like the poster. It looks like the original one. I thought this was that little girl from Ghostbusters at first. Oh, McKenna Grace? Yeah, if it was her, I would all the way been in. Oh, yeah. She's good.

I like her. And I usually hate her. child actors. They're kind of fucking annoying. But that chick was good. But yeah, this one looks good. It looks pretty much like the original one, so I'm in. All right.

I had to look her up real quick because I forgot her name, but Phillips' favorite actress, Lulu Wilson. Lulu, yeah, see. Well, and she's come along, you know? She does pretty good now, now that she's kind of grown up a little.

Yeah, she was good in Becky, that one movie. Yeah, right, yeah, I liked her in Becky. But she had this, like, over-the-top Shirley Temple fucking thing going. Yeah, to me, it was like a young Dakota fanning period. See, and I never had a problem with Dakota Fanning. I kind of felt like she acted much older than what she really was. Yeah, but she didn't, like, ham it up the way that Lulu did. Right.

That one movie when she was getting raped. Oh, my God. How one was tough to watch? Dakota Fannie. What movie was that? Wow, I don't want to, I don't even want to see that. We just went dark here. Yeah, that's been a dark episode.

It means I, she's an amazing actress. I love Dakota Fanning, but that one movie. Oh, Galveston? Was it called Galveston? I don't remember. I want to say it was something. She loved Elvis and. Hound Dog?

Yes. That one. Oh, my gosh. I never saw that. Yeah. Speaking of Dakota, this goes back to non-horror news. Lance, one of your favorite actresses, Dakota Johnson. Mm-hmm.

It's going to play Madam Webb. Spider-Man character. Really? Yeah. Okay. I mean, she deserves it. Why not? And for some reason, maybe it'll be a better... Maybe it'll be a better Spider-Man movie.

That's the thing. It's Sony, so she won't be introduced in a Spider-Man movie. She will be introduced in her own solo movie, which people are going to be like, who the fuck is Madame Williams? Yeah. I've read comic books for 10 years, and I don't know who that is. I don't either. Bring in Scorpion like they should have done all by now.

I thought it was going to be a movie. You teased him in the first movie. Put him in the first movie. He was in the first one, Scorpion? Was he? Nacho from... Breaking in. Yeah, he went to prison with Michael Keaton at the end.

Oh, that's right. That's right. That's Scorpion. I mean, bring him in. Stop bringing in all these mediocre bad guys. I'm only saying this because after Green Goblin. Yeah. Scorpion is my favorite.

Bring Andrew Garfield back. Amazing Spider-Man 3 and then introduce these characters the right way Sony yeah he needs another movie I just I just bought those those movies again the Amazing Spider-Man I thought I had him

I guess I didn't but I'm gonna re-watch him because after the fourth watch of No Way Home he it wasn't his fault that those movies were garbage he was good I like Andrew Garfield he's up he's up for an Oscar

He's up for an Oscar this year. Not in that fucking movie. For a movie singing. For a musical, Brian. For a fucking musical. That stupid fucking rent movie that he did, it's garbage. Have you seen it? I saw half of it.

Okay. My wife, my wife fucking loves everything Landmanual Miranda does. So we will be watching it. Maybe twice because I love musicals. I want to see it. Oh yeah, I really want to see it And it's actually not that bad It's in the Oscars

So we got to see it, Nez He should have won one for What was that war movie he was in? Hacksaw Ridge Oh, that was bad Yeah He was good in that With the whole war and didn't use a gun

He's got some range man Because he actually does a really good job In that rent movie A little extra non-horred news Mel Gibson has confirmed Lethal Weapon 5 is happening they're too old for this shit but all right

he's directing is the Eddie Glover's live yep Danny Glover's like 104 years old this is this is this is the story

I said it on action returns Martin and Martin's and what's her name Renee Russo's kid becomes a cop that was one story or

Danny Glover's son becomes a cop. Something happens. I'm sure you're right. And those two are going to have to come out of retirement and solve a case. Lethal Weapon 5, the tagline. We are really too old for this shit.

Are you serious? Or we're not. It's going to be Danny Glover saying, I'm way too old for this shit. We'll see Mel Gibson sitting on a toilet that's set to explore. You don't have to make Danny Glover like do a whole bunch of shit.

you can make him like the damn police chief now. Oh, that's true. And he's trying to get, he's trying to get Martin Riggs to retire because he's still doing it. Now you're too old for this shit. Oh, boy. Yeah, he could be captain and police chief,

but I don't know, we'll see. But it's got to be some young, some new young guns that are going to come in to give us the action. I hope there's a mullet. Mel could give us a little, but Danny, I don't think so. I predict, I predict Mel Gibson's death, character's death in this movie. He can't die.

No, he's too good. He got shot the hell up in the end of Part 2 and he survived. So diplomatic immunity. It's just been revoked. But yeah, I mean, I think, and what's his name at the end has to break out his old six shooter and shoot someone. Murtaugh. You got to do that neck. Oh, yeah.

And then shoot. So I want that. But yeah, anyway. He has to say some like PG catchphrase. Like, what does he say? Go spit. Right. You've been watching the ones that came on TV, haven't you? No, he says that in the

unrated version. In the first film, I think he says it like a bunch of times in that one. It sounds like one of those lines where they're just covering up a curse word. He said it when they were, um, when they were beating the hell out of them. Mother father. And they put salt in his,

in his bullet wound. We're getting off topic, but my favorite, uh, dubbed over line was a two-pac and above the rim. Instead of saying, motherfucker he said Mickey Ficky. Stop it.

I think it was on like TBS or something. Let me really quick. This one that makes me laugh every time I watch it was the PG version of Saturday Night Fever. Yeah, Saturday Night Fever. That scene when they're on the bridge and they act like they fall off and that girl

runs over to the edge and looks over in the rated R version. She goes, You fuckers! But in the PG version, she leans over, you face. That's good, man. That's a good one. Even lip readers can't tell that one's off. Oh, man. Hey, it's better than a bleep. Yeah. I'd rather have no one. I'd rather, I don't like when they add those because in the 80s growing up, I don't know about now, but they really went for it. I mean, the one that sticks out to me the most really quick was Smokey and the Bandit.

I think I saw that one. All the Jackie Gleason stuff. I mean. You just know how racist and vulgar he was. They got the dude that did the Fred Flintstone voice. That's right. That's right. I remember that. To pretty much just dub his whole dialogue. It was terrible.

Anyway. Ridiculous. Well, the movies this week. Yeah. On that note, that's the last trailer. Are you Mickey Fickey's ready? You know, you motherfucker's ready? You're bad.

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And they told us thank you for the shout-out. Oh, all right. You're quite welcome. And I apologize if I mispronounced your name. No, I do that every week. We got a message through the website. It says, hey, guys, horror filmmaker David Axe, Hailing. Love the Pod.

Thanks for introducing me to Bloody Melt. Anyway, I've got a... Body melt. Body melt. My bad. Oh, yeah. That was a great movie. It was. Anyway, I've got a goofy, gory bay wolf out. It's called Bay Wolf. It had to happen. Because why not?

And you might like it. Here's a screener if you're interested. Oh, for real? Awesome. Keep up the good word. Yeah, where's the screener, Brian? Is it in Twitter or... Yeah. Okay. I meant to check it out, but I'll have something to say about it next week. All right.

I'll check it out too, man. If I can get into my Twitter account, I'll check it out. Another good name. Brian put out a poll this week regarding Texas Chainsaw Masker. What is your favorite movie in the franchise? So far, the 1974 OG is running away with it, followed by the 2003 remake. Tim Davis says for me the original and O3 remake are on par I love them both for different reasons

over the past few weeks I have went through the franchise I noticed and I really hope this I really I really hope the new one is a direct sequel to the original well it is a direct sequel but I hope Texas

Massacre 3D does not count because that movie is. Oh no. Is it that bad? I don't even know if I saw that one. It's the digital effects that I don't think I saw it either. Which I'll talk about digital effects later on in our review.

It's got what's her name in it? Yeah, but she's so Adario or whatever her name is. Does she get populous? That would add 10 points for me. No, Lance. They fake like she's going to get topless. Oh, no. Oh, I'm out. You got to watch True Detective

if you want that. Yes, yes. That's the real. And what's her name? They're the one with a big mouth. Who? Her friend. She was in Lost. Oh, the one that was sleeping with her boyfriend on the side? Yeah, that

one. Oh, man. Oh, she had the fucking corny's line. Really? She shoots leather. Welcome to Texas. Yeah. I don't even know if she was from Texas. And then what is her friend? Alex, what is her name?

Diderio. Alexandra Diderio. Yeah, like her character couldn't walk in the damn movie. Like, she fell down like every five steps. And it was like overdone. And then all the 3D, I'm going to throw the chains off the screen.

Yeah, but Lance, you would have been pissed off. cameras. Yeah, I'll skip, man. I don't think I've seen that one either, and I think I'll keep it that way. Lance, they did the thing where the shirt was unbuttoned. And you could tell there was tape holding the shirt in place. Yeah. Come on. Although it was like, why, why tear her shirt? What, what, you know, for what? Alexander Dodario and 3D, I'm not going to argue with. she was she was great to look at but that and then leather face rewatching that one

not Texas Chainsaw three leather face but the the one that's just called them trying to overcomplicate the storyline and the backstory of the family is it's too much so I think it should just be I'm hoping for the new one to be good but I think if the timeline should be the original and then this new one I'm very hopeful. I heard you guys talking about the trailer last week,

and you said that somebody was doing like social media or something like that. He said, you've been canceled. And he said, instead of just asking him, what does that mean? Because I guess Leather Face can't talk, you just like cut him in half or something. Yeah. Great scene. Cancel this, right?

And, of course, watch Next Generation just for Matthew McConaughey. because it's fucking ridiculous. I've lost track of all the Texas Chainsaw Masker Remakes. Seems like they come out with one of four years. Part three is not too good either, but it does have Ken Foray. Got Vigo Mortensen. Are you serious? Yeah, he's one of the crazy...

I need to rewatch it. He's Sawyers or whatever. Yeah, they keep adding new family members that weren't around before. Although I think Texas Chainsaw Masker 2 is a classic. just like I do too. It's my favorite favorite of the franchise. Yeah, I'll say that was the best one at all. Yeah.

Bego, they went crazy with his name in part three. His name was Tex. Biggo Mortensen? Yeah. Okay. Marilyn Burns, she was in the chainsaw 3D. I think that was her last role. She was the grandmother.

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Also in several porno films in case you were curious. Oh, there's that. You know we were. All right. All right.

Let's see. For a post on our site that erroneously said, Puppet Master was released in 1981, fact checker Franklin Correa says, Jesus Lord, you mean 1991. Lord have mercy. Miss Brent. Miss print.

Follow Week in horror. They post a. like you know in this day in 19 something this happened so a lot of a lot of interesting stuff so go follow week and horror on facebook twitter think instagram and they do have a podcast cool cool uh regarding the requin is that i say that it doesn't matter call it with you Zim Vader says I was so keen for this

but after listening to yours and Tim Davis's review I'm not feeling the same level as enthusiasm anymore I said it on our review just go watch Jaws it's like some weird shark movie huh? Yeah

Which one was that? I'm sorry The Reckwin The Reck and Alicia Silverstone Rex Huis I don't even even though I don't even think the word was even said in the movie I've never heard that word in my life I don't think it's a real word I think they made it up if there was a movie that needed a stupid people sounder it was that one well you got a

shark movie it has to have stupid people sound no Phil like I actually sitting there and yelled out what the fuck are you doing oh okay I would have been that guy in the theater if I saw this in the theater. That'd be kind of funny in the middle of it. What in the fuck is happening right now? All right. All right. So regarding the upcoming new Texas Chainsaw Masker, again, Monica Mandoki, Mandaki, I'm sorry, says,

I can't wait to check out this movie. Shout out to the Pattern Room podcast. There you go. I love you, Monica. That would be two. I just don't know how to share your last name. Regarding our posts of activity at the Super Network, Marcy Pupandria says, you are so kind for sharing. And also from Marcy says, fun episode, guys, glad some ozploitation got in the mix. And Charles was an awesome guest.

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Great reviews on Spotify, too. Yeah, on Spotify. There you go. Any reviews. Hey, speaking of T-shirts, Brian, I got to play around with that what you sent to me. I don't know if there's like a file I got to get or something to be able to get in a T-public. All right, we'll work it out. All right, we'll work it out.

But Tavaris, you already know. because I message you, but we're trying to wait to get you the shirt when we've got the new one with more colors on it and the red teeth and everything. So we're working on it. We're working on it. I don't think I showed Phil. I'm about to say, dude.

No, I haven't seen it. But yeah. So get the classic one that's on there now before you can't. There you go in there. It'll be like them one day. Yeah. Go buy. Go buy two before you can't buy them. When we get that 100 million from Spotify, you'll wish you

Oh, jeez. Yeah, it ain't not happening. All right. And let's see. Now we're on to our featured attractions. All right. This week we're going to celebrate Valentine's Day with the original My Bloody Valentine as well as a 3D remake because what else we got?

Let's see. We'll start with 1981, a decades-old. folk tales surrounding a deranged murderer, killing those who celebrate Valentine's Day, turns out to be true to legend when a group defies the killer's orders and people start turning up dead. Director is George Mihalka, also known for Pickup Summer and Eternal Evil, which I've never heard of. Writers are Stephen A. Miller and John Beard with an Eye. How that works.

The film was shot in authentic mines, which were often as much as 900 feet underground. Only certain lighting devices could be used in the mines because of the potential danger of methane explosions. It seems like a bad idea. According to makeup effects artist Thomas R. Burman, one of his gory creations was realistic enough that director George Meeha, threw up at the side of it. That says like an urban legend, too. Yeah. Or he was just really hungover.

All right. Kevin, you want to start us out with My Bloody Valentine, 1981? Did we get a hell of good? Which version did you guys watch? There are or the unrated one? Oh, good question. I'm not sure. I will say if you guys watch the unrated,

one, the gorier kills are put back in the movie and you can tell because the scenes kind of look grainy. Yeah. It was if I'm just going by the theatrical one, awesome film. I loved it.

I saw it when it came out in the theater. And then when they did the uncut one when they added those scenes that they cut out, it just shot my score up even higher. But this movie was fucking awesome. But I loved everything about it.

The classic gory, sorry about these boys, because they won't be quiet. Let them hear. We don't talk about Bruno. Go play the edit. Top the practical effects were awesome in it. Everything in it. I did like the story. It was one of those

believable stories. It wasn't just some crazy mythical person running around killing people, but I liked what was going on. It had as much as you could get for the 80s, good acting wise. But it was good, man. I really loved those ones. But the kills, the practical effects were just amazing. I mean, because I remember before I saw the film, I was looking.

looking at the, Fangoria and the shower scene of when the minor picks up that lady and jams her head on to the back of the little spiket. It was basically just a, it was just a pipe squeezed, squeezed together. So I saw that. The water was still running through her mouth. Yeah.

And I was like, well, that looks awesome. So I couldn't wait to see it. But when I saw the movie, it was like, he just picks her up, boom. And then that's it. it. I was like, oh, weak. So I did not know there was an uncut version until much later. But, I mean, everything that was in it, I thought it was an awesome film. I loved all the people that was in it. I didn't realize that Fink from Meibol, the big fat guy, he was in it. And he was also in a class of 1984. He was the big bold, skinhead dude.

that was in that one. But, I mean, I loved everything that was going on in this one. Yeah, it was the best of, what was it, 81 when this one came out? So, yeah, man, it was a good story. And as I remember sitting there watching it as a kid being scared. I'm going to watch it later tonight with my son because he had never seen it. But I love this film. It's one of those ones we watch every year.

During the 31 Days of Horror, Taylor and I, we covered both of these films. with our original remake. I went more with this one. He went more with the remake because he's the junior guy of the East Society. But, I mean, I love this film. I mean, it's, I know a lot of people don't like it and they say

how cheesy it is, especially for now, but I think this movie still holds up after all these years, and I love this one. Nice. You guys can skip me. I've got to be right back, because I haven't seen this one in a couple of years. The only thing I'm going to say is I do remember all

that every fucking thing in the town was like Valentine's decorated. Like the goddamn restaurant and everything had Valentine decorations. And wasn't the town called Valentine's Falls or something like that? Valentine's Bluff. Yes. That's my takeaway from it. I haven't seen it a few years, but I'll be back. All right.

Brian, what did you think about it? Oh, I love this. This is a classic slasher film. The kills are great. the practical effects I'm not sure you know who watch what version but the

stuff they put in put back in was great Ned's talked about the shower faucet scene the pickax to the basically the crazy Ralph guy the guy that's telling everybody you know don't do this or you get killed

that was an awesome scene where he gets the pickax through the bottom of his neck and it comes out his eye Yeah, that eyeball thing is pretty awesome. They did a really good job on that, especially for the time. Yeah, the older lady that got thrown in the dryer. Yeah.

Oh, that was awesome. See, I love that. It works that way, but. Yeah. Well, maybe back in those days it did. I remember that motherfucker the high. I remember that the first time seeing it because when in the theatrical, when he opens the door, the sheriff opens the door. or no, it just falls, she just falls out.

And it just boom, that's it. And they just show her quick scene of her burnt up and that's the end of the scene. And the uncut one, she falls out as it's spinning. And they show her spinning still. As her head's whip. Triars don't work like that either. But another thing I really liked about this is they were young people, but they weren't like supposed to be kids.

You know, they were just in their 20s, you know, not teenagers or, you know, adult actors trying to be teenagers. You know, they were really believable as their age. And then, like, we actually got a little bit of character development. You know, we had the guy coming back from California that didn't make it in California, and he has to come back and work for his father. And then you got the whole love triangle thing. And I just like, you know, we actually got some character development other than, you know, Here's some random young people that's just going to have sex and get killed. And I thought it was kind of different.

And it stands out from other slasher movies. Is it the best slasher movie? No. But I think it's up there and definitely a classic. Yeah. And for being 1981, I mean, that's pretty good. They didn't really go with all the tropes. And I think you're right.

I think it was a pretty solid movie for 1980. The slasher genre is not my favorite. I'm more of a sci-fi paranormal religious horror person. But this one did pretty well, you know? I enjoyed it for what it was.

Have you seen this before? Yeah, I think I watched it a few years back. I feel like we've already gone over these movies. I don't know. But You know, it's got some 80s cheese to it. But, I mean, this one does kind of hold up, you know.

It wasn't bad for what it was. And the special effects were great. I'll take those practical effects in the 80s over, like, the early 2000s, shitty computer-generated shit any day. so yeah I was pretty impressed with this one for what it was I mean

I mean slasher's is the genre that I love out of horror and I mean 80s slashes yes there has been some good ones out of the 80s but what this one what makes me love these ones

is because this this story could happen we've had many accidents dealing with minds where there was cave-ins and there was some guys that passed and there was some there were some survivors and of course the love triangle of somebody leaving town and then whoever the one that got left falls in love with someone else that was that was true life and then when we find out what who the who the killer is because they have us all thinking it's someone else but then

it turns out to be someone else and it was cool because I wasn't I mean the first time watching this I wasn't thinking oh this guy is really the killer because they're hyping you up with this whole story in the beginning and then it turns into like a old folklore legend of

this is Harry Warden and if you're running around on Valentine's Day you're going to kill him because that was what was going on in this after the cave in back in the day Harry Warden was the only one that survived Um, he ate their other workers.

Yeah, because when we get to the next one, it's still the same story, but there's a lot of different changes. But when this one, yeah, he was caved in and the only way for him to survive was go to cannibalism. And he was eating the guys that were in there was dead. So he, what you got to do? He survived because when they dug him out. He killed him first. Yeah. So.

He didn't eat him while they were squirming, huh? No. But I mean, so and then him taking his revenge on all the higher ups and the mining business because he was like they did. They were like half assing the job and they didn't do whatever. I can't remember. But it was a good story that this is why he went back and he was killing all those people with the story. But then as the story goes on, we find out because I think it was like 20 years when none of this happened. because after the Harry Warden incident,

they just quit doing Valentine's Day. But then since, okay, it's been a long enough time, let's throw a party. And the town was all ready for it. Yeah, let's do it. But then this is when the killing started again. And they're saying that if you start doing Valentine's stuff,

you don't cancel the dance, I'm going to start killing people. And then slowly the body count starts. I mean, there was a little bit. It's not a pretty big body count. I want to say at least 10 in it. But, I mean, it was cool. I liked what was going on.

And then at the end, when we find out the reveal of who the killer is, I was like, ah, and then they show you a flashback on why this person is doing it. Perfect. I loved what they did with it. It was a believable story. It wasn't just some unstoppable killer running around. That's important, too. Yeah, they threw enough twists in there to make it work.

He had a great crazy person laugh at the end. Yeah. And then if you've if you watch the if you listen to the song at the end when the credits are rolling It's a song about Harry Warden so I thought that was really good. Yeah, so kind of Kind of catchy. Yeah, whoever wrote that it was it was a good way because usually they just It's just some random song that they hadn't got nothing to do with the movie but this one they They wrote a song for for the end credit so I really love this one and after all these years this this movie definitely still holds up. I'm kicking myself. They had a screening for this last night in Sacramento and I wanted to go.

But I am going to the Sleepaway Camp one in July. Felice Rose is going to be there. So I got to be there to watch that on the big screen because I have not seen that on the big screen since it came out. So but that should be fun. My Bloody Valentine, 1981, this, this movie is amazing. And to me, it still holds up in 2022. Fun fact, Don Franks, who played Chief Jake Newby, he was the voice of Bubba Fett in the Star Wars Holiday Special. Oh, wow. That's right, he was, huh?

That's the classic, huh? That's the only part you need to watch. That's the only part you need to watch, Boys and Heroes. No, the animated part, right? Yeah, that's all you need to watch. Agreed. I watched it for my 31 Days of Christmas this year. I thought AJ didn't talk to me for three days.

It was good in 78 when it first came out. I'm one of those. If you were on acid and cocaine, it was probably good. I was seven years old when it was on. Yeah, I was going to say seven years old. That makes a difference. But I loved it. I was in Arizona at my grandmother's house, and I knew it was coming on.

And I watched it, and I just thought it was amazing. But go up to, I don't know, whenever I bought a, a little boule copy on DVD and I watched it with my kids and it does not hold up. If you want to brave it, it's on YouTube, so have that it. Yeah, it's on YouTube

but it's even got some of the commercials. The original 1778 commercials. That's how you got to watch it. And that's when we were introduced to we're introduced to Chewy's wife and his son.

Oh God. Yeah. Mala and No. So he's an absentee. Absentee father and husband, huh? Hey, he was busy doing the Kessel Run. And then saving the fucking planet, man. And don't forget, itchy.

All right. So let's go scores. Ness? Ten. Is it an official? Hell of good. Brian, you're one for two. You're one for two, Brian.

We called it. Lance? No, I can't. I can't. It's been a couple years. I don't remember enough. So that's a 10 from Lance? I think I was really drunk at the time.

It's not a 10. I know that. But maybe, I think it's probably maybe six and a half or so. That's fair. I enjoyed it. Yeah. I remember enjoying it. Like I said,

the only thing I really remember that much was just the stupid fucking Valentine bullshit leading up to the dance. Yeah. It's like, why would a town go this all out just for Valentine's? I don't know. The town is wild around jaded. I know. You've been to Walmart?

Not this week, thank God. Brian, what do you think? I'll give it a nine. Wow. Nine. Why do you not expect that? This is one of, I think, the best slasher's that came out in that the golden era of slasher. Slashers films.

I was going to say, that's saying a lot, dude. That was the era for slasher's, man. I think there's a lot of iconic moments in here, and I'm so glad

that they put back, even though the, the scenes are grainy, but you needed those, those more gorier kills in there to really, you know, get the full effect of the movie.

And I, I think that was a great decision that they made. It sucks that it took that long, because I think, it was when the remake came out when they put back the scenes so it took a long time so but yeah it's it's definitely a classic and i think everybody should check it out you know especially

you know if you like horror and it's the holidays you know valentine's day check it out but make sure you check out the unrated version because it did the regular one doesn't hit the same yeah if i know the regular version streaming on stars right now but if you want to buy it get the Scream Factory one because it's got both versions on it and I think you can still get it I don't think this is out of print yet but

Yeah I got the minor guy Oh so do I Oh did you get the The steel book? Yep I got that one too but I Mike and I went in on it I just wanted the steel book he took the actual figure that came with it But I got both versions of the steel book and the regular

slip cover one but I mean yeah like Brian said the the scenes that they added back into it yeah you can totally tell it's all grainy but they cleaned it up as good as they could I guess they said this is a new 4K scan from the original camera negative so I mean that's good and the stuff they cut out yeah I mean they also did that in Candyman the original one the uncut version you can clearly see what was cut because it it does not really look at It doesn't look the same. Uh-uh. But, I mean, it's cool that they added it. I wish they could do that to the Friday of the 13th films, the earlier ones. But a lot of them, there's, as soon as scenes were cut, they threw them away. Especially like, majority is everyone's favorite.

Jason lives. They cut so much out of that. And they just threw all the, what they cut away. So I don't think we'd ever see an uncut version of that. But who knows. Only they'd known, huh? Yeah, I don't know. It was just how Paramount did things, I guess.

You got the shit in the can. Just leave it there. They do a lot of movies like that, though. Because I remember when the Screen Factory was putting out Event Horizon, they originally advertised they were going to go get the missing. I think it was like 20 or 30 minutes that were cut out. Oh, wow. And they ended up finding out that, I guess,

where they stored the footage. it got damaged to the point where they couldn't do nothing with it. Well, I guess that makes sense. So, yeah, it sucks that people go, you know, it's hard work filming all this stuff, and it gets cut out, and then they get thrown away or forgotten or destroyed, and it sucks. Well, and now, fortunately now everything's digital. Yep. All right, I'm going to give it

I'm going to give it a seven. Not bad. I think it was, yeah, I think it was a really solid 80 slasher, you know? And in 81, which is before a lot of 80 slasher. So they kind of set the narrative on this, and I don't think that they get enough credit for it. I thought the kills were pretty good. The special effects were great.

not bad not a bad movie that's my official official review not bad all right so I think we all agree we should check out the

1981 my bloody Valentine but what about the 2009 My Bloody Valentine 3D Tom returns to his hometown on the 10th anniversary of the Valentine's Night Massacre that claimed the lives of 22 people.

Instead of a homecoming, Tom finds himself suspected of committing the murders, and it seems like his old flame is the only one that believes he's innocent. Director is Patrick Lucier, Lucier, also known for Drive Angry. Great movie.

Dracula 2000. Not a great movie. Yeah. And Trick. I don't know what Trick is. That's a good movie in the haunted house. The one we reviewed with the... Yeah, not haunt, but trick.

It was like one came out one year after the other, right, Brian? Yeah, it's like the guy... I probably know it if I saw it. Yeah, you would know it. They tried to make a new, like, horror character. I don't think it really caught on. You haven't seen a trick too yet, right? No.

But it wasn't bad. I saw a trick on the corner just the other day. That is a different. That is a deal. different movie. Writers are Todd Farmer and Zane Smith. A

flyer on the wall indicates that Valentine's day is Saturday, February 14th. That would mean that the previous day is Friday the 13th. In a 2012 interview, Betsy Rue asked if she regretted filming the extended scene

where she's running around the motel parking lot totally naked. I don't regret it. She did a lot, though. She was totally naked for, it had to, it felt like a good five minutes scene. She didn't have clothes on in the whole movie, did she? Yeah, that was amazing. She might have had shoes on.

That's about it. She said, no regrets. It was amazing. And I think I would have had some regrets, but the reviews were so fun from it. Well, of course. The Hollywood Reporter and Variety wrote up some amazing. reviews and that made me feel really good. The whole point of what I wanted to do,

like, okay, I'm going to be naked, so I better be good instead of just being naked. Although just being naked probably works too. Yeah, but she was pretty damn good. She's pretty convincing. I wanted the audience to forget about the fact that I was naked running around the parking lot.

Not going to happen. Getting killed and actually have and actually have them be scared for me. So, look at that. There you go. The actress that's in the movie for fucking 10 minutes. Nez, what do you think about my bloody Valentine 2009? I'll go last on this one.

I got to go out and yell at these kids. You got to think about it. I got to go yell at these kids out there. All right. All right. Lance, you want to take over? Oh, my God. What a fucking treat this was.

I did not expect to love this movie. as much as I loved it. This was start to finish just nothing but gorgeous eye candy. I wish I could have seen this in 3D. Even just the opening sequence where they're showing the newspaper articles and they're kind of like flying through the screen at you. Oh, man, they tell the backstory. And I swear to God, I was watching it on, I guess, HBO Max.

And I thought I'd fucked up. You know how sometimes you can hit the remote and it like fast forwards or goes to a different scene in the movie? Like five, we're five fucking minutes in the movie, guys. And we've already gone through, you know, the first part where it talks about, you know, the articles talk about how he killed the other people that were in the mine with him. And then all of a sudden, we're in the fucking party in the mine. And I'm like, what?

Yeah, that's true. They get to the action pretty quick. They get to the action right away, which I absolutely love and respect the way they did that. And it was just, it was good action too. and it was very fucking scary. And really well done. Lots of great gore. I really wish I could have seen it in 3D,

but I was so excited. I'm like, well, what's going to happen? Are they just going to be hiding in the mine for an hour and 25 minutes? I mean, how in the fuck are they going to pull this off? And then they kind of do where they tricked you. Where, aha. So this isn't really what the movie's about. Like the climax of the movie isn't going to be the mind party.

The climax is obviously going to be something. something totally different. And then flash forward 10 years. Now, I will say the acting was really, really bad. I mean, really bad. And a lot of the dialogue was just completely wooden. Minus Miss Betsy Roo. Well, that was, when you get to that scene,

and by the way, did you guys recognize, you talked about who the riders were this movie. Do you guys know one of the riders was that truck driver, right? Yeah. Oh. Todd Farmer. She's shocked. Hang out of my casting couch here.

Yeah, she had to throw the gun at him because he knew it was unloaded. But, uh, yeah, I love that scene, man, that pulled me right in. And I'm like,

are they really doing this? It's like full frontal nudity in 3D. And then when she gets under that bed, and then the, the little person comes in that's managing the motel, and that person just gets picked up like Chuckie. and put on the ceiling. And then she's got, she goes under this bed, he pulls the top off.

She, she, you know, moves over to the wall. He's, like, stabbing at her. And I'm thinking, huh, maybe she's going to survive. Nope, didn't happen. I mean, there's just so many gory kills in this movie. I think Nez said that the kill count on the first one was like 10. God, the kill count on this one must have been, what, at least two dozen, Brian? Well, yeah, you get that, you probably got the equal kill count from the beginning with the,

the hospital scene in the beginning of this one. Oh, that's right. That's kind of like the firefighter scene in the new Halloween movie, right? Amazing. As far as body count or whatever. But, yeah, it was. Okay, so the body count on this must have been at least 50 then. Because there was nine in that hospital.

How many? Nine. Holy shit, dude. And there were some great, great, great filmed, gory scenes there. When it showed what the bodies looked like. Yeah. You know, and then I love the. the, you know, when they would kind of like make you think one thing, but it was another.

I think the final twist was maybe a little bit, got a little bit predictable there a little sooner than they thought it would be, for me at least. But, no, I love this film, man. This was a complete treat. This was eye candy start to finish. The action never let up. You jump right into it. I love the misdirect there at the beginning where they, you know, jump right into the mind.

And where in the world are they going to go from here? well we flash forward 10 years so don't have a lot of bad bad things to say about this one guys 30 total body count yep I love it I love it and some great kills

yeah like a third of came from that hospital my only regret was that I didn't see it in 3D so hopefully this one will come out in the theaters again I was looking for it in 3D I couldn't find it Brian what do you think I'm trying to be positive but part of me kind of wants to say fuck this movie I watched the movie

I did have fun with it there was a lot of fun moments in there but I kind of felt like as I said for the original one I kind of felt like there was more character development I kind of felt like they rushed past all that in this one when you because you get the opening scene where everybody who's like 30 years old in real life, but we're supposed to believe they're teenagers.

Well, I mean, they had to do a flash forward. Come on, man. I mean, you can use all different actors? Yeah. Okay, sure, fine. That's cool. That's cool. But that's the point.

That's the point of this movie. You don't need a lot of character development. It's just like a slam bang, slam bam. Thank you, ma'am from start to finish. I don't know, maybe I was just in the movie. move for it, man, because I've been watching a lot of slow burn stuff lately, and this was not slow burn.

And I had a lot of problems with the digital stuff. Yeah, I can just, I'm I will always, I'm not saying CGI is bad. When it's done right, it's done right. But I'm always going to be a practical guy.

Well, of course. And I was watching some behind the scene stuff, and there was stuff that they actually used. They made practical, but they didn't use it. I fucking hate that when I find out, like, the thing prequel, they actually made practical effects for that movie that they turned around and said, no, we're not going to use it.

We're going to go digital. Yeah. And I really hate when that happens, when you have a movie that's supposed to be a fun slasher movie, and you're going to go crazy with the kills. Let's go practical. It looks better. I mean, just put the money into it.

And it kind of pisses me off. And with that being said, I did have fun with it. You know, Betsy Rue, you know, that whole scene was fun. I always like, what's her name? Jamie King, I like when she pops up in movies. Oh, yeah. Who doesn't? Well, except for that new one, she's in when Bruce Willis was fucking awful.

I haven't seen that one yet. You don't need to. and shout out to Tom Atkins It's always great when he pops up Oh yeah Oh yeah Legend Unexpected

But just a little part of me Just for the effects It just wants me to kind of say Fuck this movie It just It is what it is man Yeah I mean outside of the kills

They were fun But I don't know I was a little bit bored In between the kills With this movie well at least you weren't bored long then and I didn't really like anybody in the movie outside of I understand that outside sheriff Dewey or whatever there's nobody likable in this movie I would have I wouldn't mind if they all got killed

at then they're all they're all very pretty that's for sure yeah well that this at the time when this came out that's that's that was like the formula for these like sure sure just get a bunch of good looking people and have them get killed and they all died in the end at the end yeah right but I I will say I did kind of appreciate they tried to change it from the original with the little twist at the end yeah and that was pretty cool I guess but yeah I can't I can't say I was a real fan of this movie though fair enough uh I think I kind of like that I really wish that I had

watched it in 3D. I legitimately did look for it, and I know it's out there. I just don't have a lot of time. But I thought it was pretty good as far as remakes go, you know, because they didn't try to do something pretentious and fucking new with it. They just said, all right, well, that was an 80-slasher. Here's a new 80-slash-er, and we're going to throw it up on the screen and let it go. And, uh, remake came out the same year. Was that? Friday to 13th. Ah, that was that year. Okay. But I think that's the kind of thing that remake should be though.

You know what I mean? Like, right. Don't. Don't try to black Christmas it. Just. I, give the fans what they want.

I thought we were going to make it through a whole episode. God damn it, Phil. Nope. Returns again. And so in that part it was fun I think it would have been way cooler in 3D and I was kind of disappointed I didn't get to watch it but

yeah Betsy Roo was fantastic of course you know because boobs would have been better in 3D though yeah definitely I thought the kills were put that away They had a lot of stuff coming at the camera And this was a movie that was made to be watched in 3D

I think had we gotten to do that Yeah for sure for sure But that was you know 3D was huge in 2009 And then it just sort of fell off the map Yeah Because I think Drive Angry was right after this one right Yeah I think so

I remember I got to go see it for my birthday Which was pretty cool But I don't know Phil, what do you think, man? I mean, I loved it. Brian kind of hated it. Are you in the middle? I'm sort of in the middle on this one, too, because again, I'm not really particularly

a slasher person. I had a lot of fun with this movie for what it was, but it's not something that I would like pick to go out and watch. You know what I mean? So I think it kind of falls right in line with the 1981. I wasn't disappointed in it. but I wasn't like completely blown away either. Yeah.

Although Betz you grew in 3D might have blown me away. If you catch my drift. Mine. Hey. But yeah, not bad. I thought it was pretty distant. Nez, you still around? Yeah.

Did you see this in 3D, Brian? I think I did. I know I own it on 3. I have a 3D disc of it I never watched it I think so I don't remember I was I was

I was a time in my life when I was green a lot so didn't make a huge impression it sounds like no all right well I did I saw this that night it came out I saw it in 3D I wasn't expecting much

because I was like oh you're remaking one of my favorite childhood horror slasher films and I'm like, I already know who the killer is. I went with some friends that didn't even see the original. So I wasn't saying this out loud to them. I was just thinking, alright, I already know who the killer is.

And then when that character was introduced in this one, I'm like, okay, well, this is the killer. Axel, for those you who didn't know his name in the original one. Axel Rose? Axel. Axel does come back in this one He's played by Kerr Smith And Axel's a fucking asshole in this one

But um So I was like okay Yeah Tom Atkins Always a bonus To see him pop up in anything So Um Jensen Ackles

I wasn't really a fan of his I mean I did give Supernatural a watch So I wasn't like eh I wasn't about that And yeah That Pad Lecky or whatever the hell His name is for Friday

the 13th. I hated that movie the first time I saw it, but I love it now. Movies hell of good. I had to watch it over and over and over now. I love it. He kills that one guy that implies that he was fucking that mannequin. So, um... A manikin, exactly. Just put a hole in it. Oh, God.

Nass. A couple holes, three holes in it. Aye, aye. Use your imagination. Yeah. Anyway, so I'm watching it. And yeah, man, this punches you right in the face from the get-go. Because they're showing you what they kind of talked about in the original one.

So I liked how that, because I was like, is that how you're running this story? But then we do, okay, this is a, this is a, the flashback. And then we go flash forward 10 years and everyone's different. Axel is a cop instead of just some dumb punk kid and everything. and the kill start happening again. I am not the one for 3D movies. I loved all the 80s 3D movies because they were 3D movies. But this is the one that I was like, all right,

it was hyped up to me as it was shot in 3D. So I'm like, okay, cool. So they're doing the tool, the dual camera thing, not the converted bullshit that they're doing now. So I'm like, all right, cool. And the first 3D effect, especially the beginning when you're seeing all these news clippings and all that nonsense. It looks cool.

I was like, oh, man, that looks awesome in 3D. And then once the kill start going and we get that first one, when that kid gets the pickaxe of the back of the head and the eyeball comes out the camera, huge pop. Everyone, some people screamed a lot of it. I was laughing because I was like, oh, that was awesome. So I'm like, okay, that's the movie we're going to get to. This is the ride. This is how it starts. And then it just, and it went.

each kill was cheesy and awesome. I love that there was a mixture of practical and CGI. There was one that, like Brian, I watched the special features on it. There was one kill that I loved was when this girl got a shovel jammed in her mouth and it like slice the top of her head off. They actually made a physical top of her head that they were supposed to use in the film, but then they just went with the CGI. nonsense it looks dumb but it's it was still an awesome kill but okay that's what they're

going so I mean it's pretty much like the storyline story with the original but it's a totally different movie I liked all the kills I liked everybody in it Jamie King I mean I like when she pops up in the thing so I thought she did did her part but when we got to the twist at the end which I did not see coming usually I can see especially with these movies. And at first I was like, I wasn't really sure in how I thought about that, how they changed the ending.

But then I was like, well, okay. And I go back to me like, well, when I was walking in there, I was thinking, I already know who the killer is. And I was wrong. So I was like, all right, good for you guys. But to me, the way to see this film, I can still watch it now,

non-3D. But seeing it in 3D, I thought was just a really, good time laughing, seeing everybody jerk back in their seats. Because with these conversion films, you don't get that. You don't get the people jumping in their seats

if something's coming at the film or at the audience out of the screen. This, it is of course dumb things. I'm what's this? And then it's they pointed out to the camera. But I like

this. This is with the pickax. All the scenes when that, when that, when it was coming, when he swung in and hit the guy in the back of the head and when the one Ben Foley, when he gets killed, when he gets his head jammed onto it. Or even when,

when Tom Akin gets it, he gets it under the chin and it comes out of the bottom out of his mouth and then they just pull, he pulls it off and tears the bottom jaw off. That was, that was amazing. It was all CGI, but it was cool. I love to they're doing because when he pulls Tom

Atkins jaw off you see him fall down the background but then his jaw comes flying past shooting towards the camera and it's total CGII but I mean I liked what they did with this as goofy as it looked um it was

enjoyable I mean I left the theater like damn that was a good fucking remake so I went and saw a few times and I couldn't wait to own it and I love this movie not as much as the original but I still love it I think it was what it was it was they took an old tale

gave it a few twists gave it overhaul with the effects and everything and I thought I did what it was supposed to do I mean especially for the audiences of 2009 is that when this came out yeah I mean it loved it I mean there was a lot of laughs I didn't hear many people coming out of me were saying it was stupid but it is what it is I mean it's 2009 and I thought it was a really good remake.

I was kind of like I don't want to see kills we've seen already in like we saw on the original one because usually they kind of do that sometimes but they went with a whole new kills and I thought it was cool. So but for this before to bring it to an end, yeah, I love this one. I thought it was awesome.

Brian, you were wrong. I know. You're one for two. On the nezometer. All right. Let's do scores, Lance. Eight on ten. Oh, wow.

Yep. Impressive. This would have been in my top ten for that year. Easy. Well, yeah, I think it was made more of like an experience than just a movie. But, you know, it was 2009. That's when like 3D TV. and shit were coming out and they thought that 3D

was going to be the next big thing. Yeah. Wasn't, but it's kind of cool. Brian, what do you think? I like Jamie King, Betsy Rue, Tom Atkins. Some of the kills were fine,

but the digital effects I hated. I didn't like anybody in the movie as far as their character. and all the stuff flying at the screen I guess you're supposed to feel like whoa

look out it didn't work for me so that's kind of funny like over the top 3D going out of their way to be 3D right oh you guys this movie was four you know

yeah I posted the the original teaser for this movie on uh in our group and that shit is ridiculous it's a pickax are flying out the screen into the audiences and and the flames yeah all the flames Lance you would have been impressed by the fire

but yeah this is just kind of middle of the road for me so five five ouch I'm gonna go a little better I'm gonna say seven I think it was solid it's fun you know not my favorite movie in the world but I'm not gonna go right out and watch it but I enjoyed it for what it was. Ness?

I give this one a nine. I mean, I really enjoyed it. It's happening. The other thing that I loved about this, the original as well as this one, they didn't beat it into the ground. They could have clearly did, because at the end of the original,

we saw Axel get away. And yeah, he was, he was hurt. hurt, but minus an arm, but he could have still came back. But he never did. That's why I'm glad they never did. They didn't. We didn't give us my bloody time, my bloody Valentine, 20 or something like that.

So, I mean, because the minor is, is a classic slasher killer. I mean, it's rare to go to a horror convention and not see a cosplayer of them. Because every time I do, I mean, some people do go, oh, the minor. Not me. I'm always fucking Harry Warden. And then whoever that is, it'll give me the pickax up. Like right on, you know who I am. So, I mean, that's what I loved it. I mean, again, they didn't beat this story, this character, into the ground.

I mean, we didn't really have much as far as, like, collectible-wise stuff. But since NECA came around, we just got the, however, 12-inch or however that big one with the cloth, the clothing. And then the tiny, the tunny tears, that was. one came out. So as far as I know, that's only two action figure wise. And that's cool. I'm going to get the bigger one. But this franchise didn't go out of control because pretty much a lot of the serial slasher killers, I mean, minus the big ones. I mean, they didn't really beat this into the ground and they could have. I mean, of course it was the 80s trope. He's got a mask on. And We can't see who the killer is, but I thought it was cool.

I mean, I don't know. I'm sorry, man. You know how they could have gone, Naz? Hmm. After this one, they could have done my bloody St. Patrick's Day? Anything. Right? All the little holidays, right?

They can make a whole series of the minor holidays that we don't, oh, no pun intended, that we don't get days off work for. That sounds terrible. Fucking holiday war. It does. suck. They can I change my score. They could have just went wild.

What did you say, Brian? Can I change my score? Yes. I'm taking a point off. Uh-oh. Ness just made me remember the end of this movie where he's getting away and he fucking looks at the camera trying to be all sinister. Yes.

Yes. Yeah, worth losing the point over, huh? that's right I mean that was pretty bad when he when it went that's right

he put on the the fireman's the uniform and walked out I'm careful I totally forgot about that nobody even notices

it was like why is this firefighter still get his mask on why is he limping out of the you know do you need help because they're there they help people but he comes out

like he he was the one that needed help and nobody says nothing then he for some reason he's not away from everybody he takes his mask off I'm like why the fuck are you doing that you're not you haven't gotten away yet and then he looks at the camera all like I'll be back kind of sinister look like no this movie's a four he did a he did a professional oh god I love it I love it um and again and again I'm, yeah, just remembering that. I didn't watch this to, I've seen this a bunch of times, but they didn't beat it in, they could have beat it into the ground. They could have gave, they could have given us another one after that.

Oh, they will. They'll black Christmas it up with the next one. I mean, if they, they haven't done it in the long time. So, I mean, I have a feeling if they've been over 10 years now. I mean, it's, I don't know. know. I hope they just leave alone. Yeah, I mean, it's fine. This movie is fine the way it is. It's done. It's made. It's in its horror remake history. Leave it alone. Don't give us another one. But then I'm sure someone's listening to this. You know what? Fuck these guys. I'm going to make another one. Well, if you do make another. Yeah, you better put my name in the credits. But if you do make another one, think about it and make it good. Don't do, don't do these cash-ins like these motherfuckers that are doing. with the Emityville stuff. Or come up with your own Valentine's horror movie,

a crazy X or something. You know? That's what this was. There's a few of those. I mean, yeah, literally. If you're going to do it, do it good.

Make it a movie worth us like praising other than a majority of the stuff we watch. Like, I have a movie was crap. But, I mean, make it good. I mean, even all you guys that are making these, Friday 13s and Halloween's and all that with these classic characters. They really need some work on this Chuckie bullshit.

I don't even fuck what anyone said. This shit's terrible. But just think about what you're doing with these characters. Again, a lot of these new, a lot of you new jacks out there that are watching all these for the first time, go back and watch the old shit. You probably will laugh at it. Fine.

It's made to be laughed at. I laugh at it too, but I still love it. but if you're going to bring in classic characters make it good i mean not like like brian what the when he was talking about his his um texas chainsaw stuff not all those movies were good maybe i did like texas chancel t3 um but i'm trying to think how many of those fucking movies are there i want to say nine Jesus Christ Brian can tell you

You three, four, four, six, seven, eight There's nine Yeah You nailed it I have all of them So I mean I'm a completest I mean I have next generation I have leather face

That the last one they made You have to have next generation Yeah I had to It was a screen factory Slipcover edition I had to have it So I bought it But I'm fucking I kicking myself

I miss up I miss part two, the Scream Vactor one. But anyway. Paying those prices now. No, I'm not paying that price. I'm hoping Scream Factory does a steelbook for it. They'll get you. They'll get you, Naz. They know when you're coming.

Yeah, they just, again, if you're going to do another one, make it good. Other than that, leave it alone. Because I think the original one still stands up today. Who knows? Maybe what? It's been over 10 years for me watching this one since I first saw in the theater. and it still holds up. I still get some enjoyment each time I watch it. I'll probably watch it.

If I don't watch it right after we watch the original one tonight, maybe tomorrow night, we'll watch it. But I think both of these movies still hold up. All right. Well, Nez, we got a few re-uploads. We put back on the website, courtesy of Blank, bleep, micking, fricking music. But other than that, what else?

Yeah, what else do you guys have up on the site recently? What site? On yours? You got wrestling returns? Rodels. Come on. Help me out here. We talked about the Requiem.

I don't even know what we did. What was the last thing we did? Was that Ricklin? You got to listen to the Action USA review. Oh, your invasion, USA. Everybody blows up randomly. Yeah. the action returns in episode

40. Damn, 49. We're almost to 50. You gotta watch the movie first because you got to see Richard Lynch shooting people on the dick and throwing women out of windows. They blow a whole neighborhood up on Christmas. With rocket launchers, they don't

need to reload. Oh, wow. Yeah, watch it. I think it was it, Tooby. Was that what it was on? Tubey. Yeah, watch Invasion USA if you haven't seen it before you listen. to Brian and I. And then check out our bonus episode, The Rec One. We've got to watch some of those Indian horror movies.

Have you seen those? Uh-uh. I've heard about it. The horror or the action Bollywood movies. Bollywood? Yeah, the action Bollywood movies. They look hilarious. We ought to do a commentary.

I guess we could. If you want to watch a... I think it's Bollywood horror I don't know if it's on Netflix anymore but I think it was called Dar at the mall I think that's what it was Dar at the mall why not

Oh it's DAA yeah They're like dodging bullets and Bouncing all over the place It's chaos Yeah this one it's supposed to be a horror film.

I remember we covered it on the padded room. It's labeled a horror movie. During a inaugural party for one of the largest malls in Asia, a newly recruited security guard must work to stop a supernatural threat. Talk about

Bollywood and a horror movie. Yeah. Yeah. If you guys ever want to brave this one. Dude, this movie was, it's two hours and four minutes long. No, come on, Nas, stop. I was like, come on. When is this over?

Oh, my God. Is there a dance sequence at the end? Dude, it's like a big 10-minute video in the middle. Yeah, of course there is. Oh, I was like, what that? This was my first Bollywood movie. And I was like, if this is how, I was like, if this is how it is,

I don't think I can sit through. Who knows? Maybe there's better one. But this one, this one I watched was, oh my God. I got through the whole movie. I don't even remember how it ended,

but I was just like, the only thing I remember was that 10-minute dancing. It was like a video. That was your idea. I was like, did someone? I've seen so many like clips of what looks like, you know, 80s,

commando stuff and then like the guy will jump and step on his gun and do like 16 backflips in the air they're all fucking crazy it's so without landing okay

all right well we gotta move on guys so as always we want to thank you for listening to another episode of the horror returns we would love to hear your feedback and ideas you can always reach us at the horror returns at gmail.com or just go to www. thehorrorbiturns.com and

everything is right there. Next week, it's the all-new re-re-re-re-remake or re-re-re-remake, or re-re-re remake, Brian? Uh-oh. Watch this before we get out of here. This is what it is. You're killing me.

You're killing me. You're killing me. You're killing me. Watch this clip. This is what we need to find and watch. This is the type of action movies I want to see. Is this? for real or what, dude.

It's a movie. It's a movie. Little superstar. I've seen this before. What? Is this, is this Bollywood? I'm not sure, but... Oh, my God. Watch this.

Oh, I've seen this. It's like Chuckie. It's like Chuckie, an Indian Chucky. It's the little guy. He looks like that dude from the fucking... I know, from waxwork, right? ay, aye, aye.

He was lighting up full of. I've seen another video. He's got some sweet dance movies. Yeah. Oh, my God, Nas. Thank you. That's the movie. That's the movie we need to find.

Oh, my God. All right. We're going to watch the new Texas chainsaw. You guys said it's on Netflix, right? Yes, sir. And the 1974 original. So, uh,

Nez until the horror returns again. What's that next week? The 18th? Is that when it comes out? I think so. Yeah, it said. Look like it. I sure hope so, man. I hope we don't have to reschedule again. No, it's the 18th. That's when it comes out. So we're set.

We're good. Yeah, we're good. Yeah. So watch it midnight. Thursday. Hey, can you say good at Nez? Can you say good night in Indian? Indian. I'm not Indian. I'm Native American.

I'm talking about Indian. We're talking Hollywood, man. Come on. Oh, no, no, I'm not. I'm the fake Indian, everyone. All right. Until then, yeah. Hagonet.