The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #30: Event Horizon (1997) & Passengers (2016) (Re-upload)

Episode Date: June 19, 2021

This week we get sci-fi with Passengers and Event Horizon. Thanks for listening!

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The other thing we may do from time to time is use a few four-letter words. This is a horror podcast, and horror movies do tend to be R-rated, so you can pretty much expect us to be too. I'm Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Phillip. How's it going, guys? What up? Not too bad. You guys ready to start out with Cool of the Week?

let's do it I finally finish the Exorcist series and I am going to give this first season two thumbs up I totally enjoyed it all the way through and I am really confused on why they haven't figured out

if it's going to get a second season or not yeah I was I was wondering about that man I'd heard rumors that is there like some kind of a petition or something? Yeah, it's basically they're trying to get everybody to go

online and hashtag renew the exorcist, which they haven't canceled it. They haven't renewed it. Oh, it's still sitting in limbo. Yeah, it got really good response, but not a lot of people watched it.

Right. So, but it's just really strange to me that no news has come out about it, but I fully enjoyed it. You know, they, This is definitely a true connection to the original film.

You know, you actually get to see, you know, minor spoiler. I'm not going to give too much away. You actually get to see, what was his name? Captain Howdy. Right. He actually makes an appearance on the show. Really? No shit.

Yeah. Huh. Which, you know, of course, Captain Howdy is Pizzou. And, you know, they tie everything in. You know, they even go have flashbacks to the movie. movie and recreate some of the scenes. I really got to watch it. I can't believe I haven't yet. Right. I really enjoyed it.

Cool, man. So it's like basically a straight up, you know, sequel. I mean, for all intents and purposes, it's, it's canon in other words. Yes. For sure. And that was pretty much all I had this week. Any, uh, any, any, anything not so cool? Um, this weather, but it has been snowing like crazy. Right. But, you know, it's where I live, so I've got to deal with it. All part of it, huh?

Yeah. Man, I don't really have a cool week. I haven't really watched TV a whole lot. Cowboys, the number one seed. Boo-ya. Texans Division champ. Yeah, we'll see how that goes. Yeah, you never know.

Hey, man, we're all tied to. at zero again next week. Although we have to play one more week than you guys do, but, you know, we'll see how that goes. Probably not, because I don't imagine that they're going to make it too far out of the playoffs. Yeah, all right, all right, probably so. Yeah, my cool of the week was a little movie that you, Philip, you talked about it a while back. our good friends over at horror news radio, particularly the Black Saint,

had a lot to say about it, but a movie called The Monster. Oh. And this was the one about the mother and daughter that are terrorized by the creature when they're in their car. Somebody referred to it as kind of like a modern-day Kujo or something like that. And I can see the similarities, but there's a lot different, too, between this and Kujo. It's not like it's a,

a remake with a, you know, with a monster that, that, uh, that looks like those creatures from, um, oh, what was that British film that came out about three or four years ago with the, the guy who plays, uh, Finn now on the, in the Star Wars movies where, oh, um, attack the block? Attack the block. Yeah, didn't, didn't you see a lot of that in that creature? Yeah, it was like a much bigger version, basically. Yeah, yeah, it almost seemed like it was from the same universe, you know? but like you said philip dude when that when it says the monster that's very much a multiple meaning title yeah you know it's it's one of the few horror movies that that has some some

some real double meaning and they're not like subtle about it yeah it's uh it actually uh it kind of brought it uh brought a tear to my eye yeah yeah there were there were some pretty touching touching scenes in it for a horror movie but yeah I really enjoyed the monster

you know I mean it's not as far as my not so cool of the week I mean hey guys Christmas is over

so the hallmark brutality is finally over with for me so hey man I'm just looking up

I'm just looking up taking the high road at this point is it really over because I didn't know they had a channel the hallmark yeah

uh Yeah, they do, but fortunately I think the all-Christmas movies, all the time portion of it is done now. At least I hope so. Yeah, I've been trying to figure out why I've been going into my living room lately, and it's on the Hallmark Channel. Oh, boy. Because Elf was on, and it's awesome. Elf was on the Hallmark Channel? I don't know.

Jeez. All right, well, so if that's the cool of the week, then as with every show, it's time to take a little trip down to the trailer park the big we're going to talk about the small and I think we got a very very weird one to talk about this week so Brian what's our first trailer okay our first one we're going to talk about is the creature below starring Anna Dawson

Michaela Longdon Daniel Trace and others directed by Stuart Sparrow What did you guys think of this one? Not sure what to think of it. Yeah, I mean, they didn't show you too much. This is, okay, this is the one where they were like British, right? No. No.

All right, well, there you go. You know what? I have only seen this trailer once, and they might be British. I don't know. What's it called again? The creature below. Weird creature off in the corner? The creature below.

Yes. Yeah, yeah, I think they were British. It looks interesting. It kept me interested during the preview. I don't know what it's about at all. It looks super low budget. Yeah. Yeah, I think we were talking about that when we were watching it, weren't we?

How low budget it looked. Yeah. Yeah. Let's see how this one goes. Yeah, this one is, you know, we talked about a movie in our last show about special effects, not taking you out of the story. the special effects kind of took me out of this trailer. Pretty hot.

So, yeah, it doesn't sound like anybody's going to watch it all around. Yeah. It looked kind of interesting because they had the little creature in the corner or whatever, but I don't know. It looks like it'll probably show up on Netflix. Yeah, definitely. Which right now, I guess it's out now on Vod. D, I believe. Oh, it's got a pretty good rating.

No, I'm looking at it. Okay, let's see. Moving on to our next trailer is Prevenge, starring Joe Hartley, Gemma Whalen, Kate Dickey, and others. Directed by Alice Lowe. This looks cool. It looks really funny.

Like, a really dark humor. Yeah, I was just about to say, like a dark comedy. Yeah, it's, I kind of like it. I'm sort of looking forward to it now. Yeah, looking up the director, it said she wrote this, she's a writer of this movie.

Have you ever seen sightseers? Have you ever seen what? Sightseers? No, I haven't seen that one. Yeah, it's a pretty, pretty, it's another dark kind of horror comedy. It's pretty good, so based on that,

in the trailer, I'll probably give this one a try. Oh, yeah, definitely. Definitely want to see this one. It looks completely interesting. Yeah, this one is, anything I've ever seen. Yeah, this one's due out February 10th.

The baby is evil. Yes. Yeah, it was pretty good. It looked like a black comedy a little bit to me. Yeah, we were just saying that. I was just saying the director, Alice Lowe, was a writer on sightseers. You ever see sightseers? Is that the movie about the people that go and, like, kill people when they're out?

Or am I thinking of something else? that's pretty much the premise right there yeah they like go on different uh holidays and and and they're they both happen to be serial killers or something like that yeah i think so sounds familiar yeah from what i remember it was pretty like almost like a dark comedy too right so yeah so like i said that one's due out february 10th We were saying there was one other trailer you want to talk about this week, huh? Yeah, it's our biggest trailer we're going to talk about, and it's Blade Runner 2049, starring Harrison Ford, Ryan Gosling, Jared Leto,

Anna De Arms, Dave Batista, and Lenny James, directed by Dennis Villeneuve. So, quick question, Lance. Right. Were you a fan of the original? I was a fan of it. I wasn't as big of a fan like when I first came out. It was a little too esoteric for me, a little too weird. But, you know, the next couple of times that I watched it, I got a lot more out of it.

And I remember all the acting was really good, especially you remember Rutger Hauer? Yes. And who was it? Sean Young. Is that the name of the particularly athletic android that he was going after? Yes. Yeah, there were some great performances, man. And that was, was that before or after he became Han Solo?

Oh, it has to be after. A little bit after, right? Yeah, I would think so. Okay, so probably like early 80s or something like that. I can't remember the exact year. I know it's been a pretty long time since it's been out. I've actually only seen it one time, so it didn't really stick out for me. I've always meant to revisit it

because I know they put out a lot of director's cuts and special edition versions of the movie. Right. So, yeah, I'm probably going to give it another look probably closer to the actual sequel coming out. Right. Which, speaking of the trailer, you know, we didn't really get much of a trailer.

Not a lot happening. Yeah. You know, just Ryan Gosling walking around. Well, that's all some of the ladies need, man. Yeah, and then we get Harrison Ford there at the end. Okay. Really interested to see, because, you know, this is a pretty good cast. You know, you got Jared Leto and Lenny James from The Walking Dead.

Yeah. Yeah, Dave Batista. So I'm very, very interested. I was surprised when you mentioned Batista's name, man. I had no idea he was in it. Yeah, he's getting a lot of roles lately. All right, yeah, Philip, we lost you there for a minute, but we were just so you know,

we were talking about the new Blade Runner 2049 trailer, and Brian was asking what I thought about the original. Have you seen the original? Man, I don't know if I ever actually have. If I did, it was when I was really little. And I can't really remember it. But the trailer for the new one looks pretty awesome to me. I can't remember where we look.

Oh, Brian, you said you were going to do some fact checking. Did you? I think it came out in 82, so it was like after the first two Star Wars movies, but just before the third? Yeah, you're exactly correct. It came out a year before Return to the Jedi. Okay, so he had already established himself as Solo then. Yeah.

I'm checking to see where it came. Ah, you know what? One year after Raiders of the Lost Ark, too. Oh, wow. Yeah. He was already pretty big time when this one came out. Yeah, I'd say he was a pretty hot property. Do you guys actually think he's in the movie a good amount,

or is it just a small role? I don't know. It didn't even really occur to me that it was just a little cameo. I suppose it could be that he didn't have a whole lot of screen time in episode 8. I don't know. I didn't really think about that. I'm hoping he has a lot of screen time, though. Well, it'll be interesting to see what happens.

When's it coming out, Brian? We are getting this one October 6. All right, October 6. We'll be there. Yeah, definitely. So that's it for the trailers this week, huh? Yes, sir. Yeah, speaking of

Dennis of Villanue VinnaVe Gonna get that name Oh, I got it. Yes. He is currently in talks to direct the Dune remake. Oh, no.

Oh, come on. Which, yeah, I like the original and so far nothing, I mean, I can't speak on Blade Runner, but everything previous to that, he's been hitting him out of the park with me so yeah which wait what movies did he have again uh cicario prisoner oh

right and uh arrival and don't and don't yeah yeah don't forget enemy with uh jay yes yeah i'm gonna hall playing a dual role yes oh yeah i forgot about that one yeah that was actually the one that kind of turned me on to him as a director so i'm i'm i'm pretty good with this one yeah yeah i have a you know i have a so many so many many people have tried to make Dune and it just seems to be an unfilmable work. Yeah, like I said, I got a soft spot for the original movie because I've watched it a lot when I was a kid. The, I believe it was a sci-fi remake TV movie. That one's really shitty. I heard about that one.

But I'm definitely confident in him to do the job. Well, if it turns out, man, it's going to be a masterpiece because no one else has been. been able to pull it off, in my opinion, and in most critics' opinions. It sound like you like the version with Sting and Captain Picard and those guys, huh? Yes. Yeah, I just didn't care about it, man. I think it's about time they remake this one. I'm okay with this.

Yeah, to me, it was just so different from the book, guys. It left whole parts out that were in the book. There's such important parts of him training and living in the caves and stuff like that, and it wasn't even really addressed in the film. that's what turned me off. Yeah, hopefully they'll go more by the book. From what I think I've read somewhere, they're basically turning this into a series

of franchise if everything goes well with the first one. Okay. So, fingers crossed. Take the book in little chunks. Yeah, fingers crossed. Okay. Showrunner, I believe his name is Brian Fuller. of Hannibal.

Oh, yes. Wants to make Silence of the Lambs into a mini-series with Hannibal himself, Mads Mickelson. Ah, with Mads, okay. Yeah, so... I think it's a great idea.

Philip, you've seen the show. I haven't seen it. What do you think? Yeah, I mean, again, it kind of fell apart in that third season for me. I don't even think I finished watching it, but the first two seasons were really really good. I love Mads McIkelson. He's pretty amazing.

So I'll watch it. Yeah, so far, it's just this is in a talk process right now. There's no they haven't talked to any like Netflix or Hulu or any cable TV channels like HBO or nobody. So, but he is really trying to push this because instead of doing the Hannibal

continuing the Hannibal series he would just like to revisit it with mini series every now and then which I think sounds good yeah I think so who's playing Clarice haven't really said yet yeah right now

I guess it's still an idea phase but still yeah but yeah I love the show too I haven't finished the third season I kind of which is kind of odd because I was really

hooked with the first two seasons and then the third season. The first couple of episodes just kind of lost me. Yeah, me too. I watched maybe two episodes of it and I just stopped. Yes, but still planning to finish it though. Okay, and moving on to our last

news item here, Zach Gallaghan gives an update on Gremlins 3. Oh, no. Did a Christmas movie. Have at it, guys. Yes, his update is Warner Brothers still wants to do it. Chris

Columbus, who was involved in the first one, is aggressively working on it and says there will be new and old characters. He wants to do what Gremlins 2 caused, and he didn't like the direction it went through. And he ensured

everybody, it's not a remake or a reboot. It's a definite sequel. I kind of like Gremlin's too, man. Not the one with, where you had a little bow and arrow and stuff? Yes, a little Rambo Gizmo. Yeah, and all the different types of gremlins that came out. It was like a spider win or some shit. Yeah, and, you know, Hulk Hogan cameo.

Don't forget the Donald Trump, the Donald Trump camey. Donald Trump, yeah, yeah. Donald Trump and Hulk Hogan in the same movie. Yeah, it's fortunate you're in there, you'd be all right. That's right. It definitely. It definitely doesn't hold. It definitely doesn't hold up to.

the first one, but it was a complete different type of movie. Oh, yeah, it was, it was way more more, just fun, cheesy shit instead of an actual movie. Yeah, which

I'm not necessarily sure if this is going to happen, you know, this is just one of the movies, you know, like we've been here in years, right? It's like there's going to be a sequel to Goonies. I think, I think this might be just one of those that might not ever happen

but you know somebody catches wind of it and they'll put it in a magazine hey did phoeiccate's take off her top and uh and jump in the pool or anything while judge reinhold was jacking oh i'm thinking of something else never mind

wrong movie I think she should just do that in every movie she's in a remake of that one of course they all have cell phones and shit now that's right uh but uh I believe that is all the news we have.

Yeah, we're going to talk about how you submit your stuff for the contest we've got going on and when we're going to release the winners and all that. Okay, guys, this is for Lance's number one movie of the year, number one best movie. Number one best movie. We've had a few submissions on worse movies, so let me clarify it's for the best movie. and I believe we've extended the cutoff date till the seventh I believe and everybody submit your answers through our Facebook, Instagram, Twitter and email and all of it's at the horror returns

and the email is the horror returns at gmail.com So get those answers in and you will win a Freddie Kruger I believe it's a Nightmare on Elm Street, three Dream Warriors figure. Cool. And I've posted pictures of a figure on our Facebook and Instagram and Twitter, so check those out. All right, pretty straightforward.

I know I've seen at least half a dozen submissions. I'm sure that there's more that you'll find when you go through all that, Brian. But yeah, should be a good competition, man. And this is something we plan to keep doing into the new year. So guys, keep listening. Yeah, and real quick, if there happens to be a lot of the same answers, we are going to just randomly pick a name out of a hat type of thing. That seems fair enough.

Yeah, because I've seen quite a few of the same answers. All right. A lot of good answers, a lot of good ones. Cool. I'm kind of curious to know the answer myself. Yes, me too, me too. We'll find out in a week or less. How about that?

Yeah. So are you guys ready for the featured attractions now? Let's do it. All right, so now it's time to discuss this week's featured attractions. We continue the space opera fun with passengers and also the 1997 film Event Horizon. As always, we'll start out with trivia for the first movie that we're going to discuss, which is Event Horizon. director is Paul W.S. Anderson, also known for the Resident Evil Films. Writer was Philip Eisner, also known for either you guys check out Fire Starter 2 by any chance?

Fire Starter 2. It's like I knew that was there. It has to be like a sci-fi movie. I don't know, man. I never even heard of it. I know the first one was pretty good, but I certainly hadn't seen it. Oh, it's called Fire Star Wars. or two rekindled. There you go.

That's clever. Yeah. That's like a Sharknado style, clever. Oh, yeah. Oh, hell no. Well, if that's not good enough, he also wrote another film, I'm sure you guys have not seen.

It's called Mutant Chronicles. I've actually seen that one. You have? It's not good. It has Thomas Jane, and I think Ron Perlman shows up in it. I think that was the reason why I checked it out But I don't even remember what it's about

It's not that good Not that great Is it a recent movie or an older one? It's an older one I got you All right Well having just done a PG-13 movie Mortal Kombat

Paul W.S. Anderson was very keen To do something more mature and gruesome This was why he turned down the chance to direct X-Man Not a good move. Interesting point, especially you'll notice this on rewatch. Everyone's space suit has a flag showing future political changes on Earth. Characters portrayed by American actors were a flag of the United States, but it has 55 stars on it. Characters portrayed by British actors were a European Union flag with 22 stars, replacing the former Union Jack. apparently this script was written before Brexit

Sam Neal's character wears a modified Australian flag with the Union Jack removed from the top left-hand corner and the Aboriginal flag in place of the Union Jack and finally the rotational shot of the Space Station over Earth took nearly a third of the film's budget I could tell That's probably not the smart smooth well uh i know i think you guys like this movie right i mean who wants to go first

uh i think philip you can go first all right uh yeah this is it's it i think i'm the one that picked this movie because uh looking back on it i remembered it being probably a lot better than you just now i'm not sure if it quite holds up the way that i expected it to uh i still love it there's definitely Definitely some cheesy effects, like the, uh, all the computer animated junk. Like there's a water bottle floating through the air and it, they, they should have put a water bottle on a string or something because it looks like a five-year-old made it with their, you know, Microsoft paint or something. And then, uh, brutal, man.

Well, I, yeah. Seven, dude. Come on. Well, you know, it's, it's 90s computer animated. Like lawnmower man, if you remember the animation on that. True. The practical effects I thought were pretty decent. It's still a fun movie. It's got a lot of really disturbing images in it, which I think was kind of cool.

It's, you know, a horror movie in space. I'll always watch that. Right. But overall, I liked it. Yeah. Go ahead, Brian. I was going to say, I've seen this. movie in the theaters when I was younger.

And I really enjoyed it at the time. But doing a rewatch, it doesn't hold up as much. I think you hit it on the nose with the special effects. The practical effects are good. I think there's a couple of scenes they don't hold up as the practical effects. But there is a lot of disturbing imagery, especially the scene where, what is his name? Sam Neal shows Lawrence Fishburn what's to come when they go to their dimension.

Right. Oh, like it's very end of the movie? Yeah, I thought those were really disturbing and the fact that, you know, he wasn't going there to die, he was just going there to be in pain and misery. Yeah, when they finally decoded like the message that the previous crew would stint and the guy like rips out his eyeballs and holds them into the screen and I thought that was pretty creepy. Yeah. But, you know, overall, it just didn't really hold up as, you know, a lot of movies from that era.

Yeah. I think Jurassic Park came around that time. Oh, yeah, and it was heading shoulders above. I mean, I'm sure it had a bigger budget, but, man, it was, it did a lot more with making CGI look believable for sure. Exactly. Of course, they probably didn't blow their whole budget in one shot either. Yeah, that's true. True. And for the record, it was actually released four years before this one.

Oh, wow. Yeah. Well, damn. I'm assuming this wasn't. That doesn't give it much of an excuse. Hey, guys, I'm assuming this wasn't meant to be, you know, like a small budget, you know, cheesy sci-fi channel type thing. I think if I remember it was advertised pretty heavily when it came out, I think it was expected to be a hit, especially with the, you know, the actors that they had in it. well and i don't think that there was a whole lot of computer animation in it it was really just right uh like at the beginning when they come in and there's zero gravity and shit's floating around

and then like when the uh uh uh that stuff that came out of the gate was floating around that was that was kind of cornball but i mean aside from that most of it was pretty pretty practical effect stuff you know sure it's just kind of a small chunk of the movie that that I really didn't like. It just made it look dated. Yeah, I'm going to be kind of brutal with this movie, quite frankly, because I think special effects aside and subpar acting aside, because I think with those actors,

you should have gotten a lot better performances. I think with a different director, maybe you would have. But all that aside, I mean, just, I think it was just, it ripped off or it tried to rip off so much. Like you guys were talking about the, you know, this is our dimension and it's going to be in pain. or whatever. Well, that to me rips off Hellraiser, big time.

The, you know, the design of the ship. I mean, it looked like something directly out out of H.R. Geiger's art book, you know? I mean, it looked like it was trying so hard to rip off Alien. And also, hey, think about the

characters that they had. Didn't you guys get a little vibe of, even though they did have a couple of female characters, didn't it kind of seem like they were both trying to mimic the thing, Carpenters the thing, as well as the original alien film a little bit?

Um, yeah, I get more alien out of this. Right. Yeah. I'm thinking more of Cooper, the Richard T. Jones character, the one that was always shucking and jiving, and just to remind you, the way he played that

character, I would be a lot of the roller skating guy and the thing. Yeah. He was kind of one big stereotype, huh? Yeah. He probably had the most amazing scene in the movie, though. Yeah, he let off his air tank and was flying in space. Yeah, he's about the only smart guy out there, huh?

Yeah, and I was wondering about the ship. I was like, you know, why would you make a ship that's that creepy looking? No kidding. Yeah, not to mention how huge the ship was compared to, you saw the little ship that they got there and that they docked and how tiny it was. why the fuck do they have to make it that big? You know, I just, I guess, it had a gravity drive. That's actually a good question.

There was a, they had a lot of space on that ship. They did. Especially the, the part that they blew to split the ship, that's quite a walk to get from one end to the other. It was like some big, long hallway just for the hell of it. Yeah, and there was nothing in there. It was just a hallway. Except conveniently placed explosives.

Yeah, I forgot enough to. Well, you guys, you guys know better than anyone that my two favorite genres are horror and science fiction, so you would think this would be made to order for me, but I was just so fucking unimpressed by this movie. It was just, to me, it was just almost a shame that they spent the money to make it. Yeah, this is probably, this is probably my least favorite Sam Neal, performance. Yeah. I still like it.

I still have great memories of this movie, and it still kind of creeps me out a little bit. It's not like going back and watching The Exorcist or anything, but it's still got a little something. Gotcha. Well, you guys ready for ratings? Yeah. I guess I went first.

Yeah. Man, I guess I'm going to give it, I kind of wanted to give it a seven. But now, yeah, I guess acting was a little sub. I'm still going to give it a 6.5 though. All right. I still like it. I think it's good.

Yeah, if you like it, you like it. Obviously, you know, some people do. Somebody out there besides Philip likes it. It's a cool movie. But yeah, I'll go with 6.5. Yeah, I'm probably, was right. right there with you. If this was closer around the time

when I first seen it, I probably would have gave it a seven, maybe a little bit higher, but rewatching it now. I'm going to give it a six. Wow, not bad. The special effects, you know, practical effects set aside, the special effects really took me out of it. Because one

that's just popping in my head, the guy on fire that was chasing Lawrence Fishburn? Oh, yeah. That was really bad. I forgot all about it. And he suits like this flame throwers out of his hands or something. It's just this like straight little stream of fire. Yeah.

Fire starter three, huh? Yeah. And like I said, I've seen better from Sam Neal. I've seen better from Lawrence Fishburn. He wasn't horrible in it, but. Yeah. I like those two guys in this movie. Yeah.

For me, I kind of felt like they kind of phoned it in on this one. Right. Yeah. So, yeah, I'm going to go ahead and give it a six. All right. Well, like I said, I'll definitely be a little more rough on it than you guys. I just didn't find a whole lot of original with it. I just didn't, none of the characters really grabbed me.

I didn't find anybody to be particularly likable, even though they were trying to make, you know, Jolie Richardson's character look like she was going to be the likable one. And then they would kind of make Fishburn look like you're supposed to really, have respect for him as a captain and everything. None of them hit me that well. But like I said, the design of the ship, I just think, was fucking asinine.

From start to finish, why is it going to look creepy? Why is it going to be that big? The physics behind it, I think, you know, they were kind of starting to go somewhere, but then they kind of lost me about a third of the way through describing how that drive or whatever works. the engine. Right. So, yeah, I can't

I can't go any higher than two on this one, guys. That's fair enough. Yeah, but, you know, to each their own, you know, some people, some people might enjoy it. Any of our listeners who, you know, who'd want to tell me how wrong I am, please feel free to write in because we, you know, we love to get the feedback for sure.

So you guys ready to move on to the big movie, the one that I didn't, that I still haven't seen, and I think you guys, Dude, you got to watch it. Yeah, I'm going to have to back out so I don't get spoiled and get the trivia, and then I'll come back to you guys. If that'll work, if that's okay with you two. That's fine.

Yeah. All right, so the movie was Passengers, came out this last week. Director Morton Tildum, also known for the imitation game. Ryder was John Spates, also known for Dr. Strange, as well as the upcoming The Mummy and Van Helsing. Now, this is interesting. Kiano Reeves was attached. to the lead male role in the film but dropped out. Chris Pratt was eventually cast instead.

Good choice. Yeah. Man, you guys have me pumped up from our off-air talk. You guys have me pumped up for this. That's why I'm going to back out and let you guys take over. I guess just shoot me an instant message when you're done so we can do the outro. But the screenplay, and this has been the case with a lot of these movies we've reviewed this year. I noticed the shallows when we did trivia for that.

It was also on the blacklist, but the screenplay for this film was featured in the 2007 blacklist, a list of the most liked unmade scripts of the year. And now here, this will blow you away. Reese Witherspoon, Rachel McAdams, and Emily Blunt were all at different times, actually cast in the lead female role in the film, but dropped out during development.

Jennifer Lawrence was eventually cast in St. So I know you guys aren't going to talk spoilers at first, but I'm going to go ahead and back out, let you two have at it, and pick you up on the flip side. All right. All right. Philip, you want to lead us off here? Sure, yeah. I'm kind of glad they didn't go with Reese Witherspoon. I'm not her biggest fan.

Although Jennifer Lawrence played Jennifer Lawrence in this movie. she's a lot like she was in like silver lining playbook, I thought. A little. Lance reading that, Lance reading that list, I kind of wish, you know,

without getting into spoilers, that they would have went with maybe Emily Blunt here. Or even Rachel B. Yeah, I can see either one of those two as this character. I think that they would have done a really good job. Can you, oh,

real quick, can you just imagine if this movie was Keanu Reeves and Reese Whittisfone? you know I still like Keanu Reeves too but Chris Pratt right now can do no wrong that guy I don't even think I would

I don't even think I wanted would have wanted to review this movie if it was those two yeah I know it would definitely be strange it would be a lot more serious I think because there's a couple of scenes that really

don't even have any relevance to the movie that Chris Pratt is in where it just it gives a little depth to his care like he's standing in front of the mirror putting on a jacket and like getting ready to go uh meet the people that are supposed to be there and he's

like he's like should I wear this jacket? I don't know. You know what? You got a cool jacket. Go rock it. Yeah I thought it's very Chris Pratt. I thought he was amazing in this movie. He is totally

stepped it up from where he first began with Parks and Rec. Yeah, although I loved him there too. Yeah, real quick, if any listeners here, a baby in the background, I apologize. That is my niece. She's a little bit fussy today, so. Yeah, I thought this movie was really surprising. I didn't, oh, let me, how do I put this? I was excited when I first seen the trailer,

but the lead up to the actual release of the movie, I kind of lost interest. Yeah, me too. But this movie, I really dug this movie. It kind of came out of nowhere, and I didn't really think I was going to like it as much as I did. Yeah.

When we get to spoilers, I did have issue with Jennifer Lawrence's character and her motivations. But I think Chris Pratt, really sold this movie to me. Yeah, I think so. I think you're right. And I kind of had the same deal going.

Like, I wanted to see it, but it definitely wasn't like on my priority list. And had we not been doing a show over it, I probably would have waited until it came out on DVD. Yeah. But, man, it was, it was really good. I really enjoyed this movie. Yeah. And, um, really the special effects, I really dug them, you know, Especially us talking about event horizon special effects.

And then when we go to this, it was like the no comparison. Yeah. Yeah, there wasn't anything. Well, I can't think of any time during the movie where something, you know, some sort of special effect happened and I didn't believe it, you know? Yeah. Like it totally sucked me in the whole thing. I, total surprise.

I really love this. movie. So you want to, because I'm kind of wanting to get into spoilers real quick. You want to go do quick ratings? Yeah, let's do it, man. I'm going to give it a nine. I really, really liked it. Yeah, I'm also going to give it a nine. Like I said, it is one of my surprise little sleeper movies of the year. Yeah, this might make it on my end of the year list. So with that said, let's get into spoilers. All right, let's do it.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. So you had some

issues with Jennifer Lawrence? Yeah, I had some issues with J-law. I am not the biggest

Jennifer Lawrence fan. No? Yeah, she's I feel like her smaller movies are where I like her,

like what is it Silver Linings Playbook American Hustle, Joy those movies I really enjoy her in you know not so much like The Hunger Games or X-Men And

Yeah I see that Which granted I have not seen the last two Hunger Games so I can't really speak on the entire series But I did But I didn't like her as much as I thought I was going to In those movies Yeah that's what I heard from a a lot of people.

Yeah, as far as her character, I didn't like the character's motivation to go on this 120 year journey to another planet because her character is a writer. Right. She wants to write this story about this trip. So that's her whole motivation is to take this 120 year journey, stay on this planet for a year,

and then come back, which is another 120 years. And I just didn't, I was just like, what? you're giving up your family and friends to write this story. Well, I think it's the same motivation that probably everybody else on the ship had, which is just a new beginning. You know, just press the reset button on your life and go do it. And then she's going to write a story about it. So I guess I kind of get it because she's,

that's her adventurous, spontaneous, a little bit of crazy that is Jennifer Lawrence. some people like to call it passion yeah i i'd probably say that was probably the one scene where where all that came out was the reveal of what he done to it what he did to her pod um oh yeah i really felt that from her the whole because she just all of a sudden was sick to her stomach was kind of didn't know where she was yeah she said she couldn't see at one point

yeah which i also i also felt that from him I also felt that from him when he sabotaged her pod, how he just got out of there. And he also was sick to his stomach on what he just did and how he just basically just killed somebody. Yeah. But I thought Chris Pratt played that a lot better. I think that when she, I can definitely understand her initial disgust. And she was so upset that she couldn't see straight because he pretty much woke her up and stranded and are on the same shift that he. was on. But

I think that she was mad at him for like months, right? Yeah, it seemed like it. They're the only people on this ship. And she's just so pissed off at him that she can't even look at him for months. Which I kind of... You got to chill out. Which I kind of thought they did a good job in a beginning

kind of explaining the time period, especially when he was alone for, for what was it, over a year. Yeah. But now I gotta say, though, I'm sorry, go ahead. I was just going to say, but during their whole relationship

and the reveal of what he did, I kind of, I don't think they did as good of a job as explaining how much time was going by, especially when she wasn't speaking to him. Yeah, because when they, when Lawrence Fishburn came along, it was only 88 years to get there.

So it had been a good year since he let her out. Yeah. But yeah, I felt like, you know, maybe... I get that he's stranded on the ship by himself, but it only takes him a year to sabotage somebody's pod. Yeah, because he... It's not like a captain or a crew member or something that maybe can help him. It's some random chick.

Yeah, well, I want to add that he is the greatest mechanic ever. Oh, yeah. He can seem to build anything. Yeah. Reprogram robots and shit. Yeah. Speaking of robots, how did you feel about Arthur, the bartender? Oh, I liked him a lot.

I thought that was a really awesome character. Yeah, he was. was pretty cool. But there was a few, like you mentioned, Lawrence Fishburn. I didn't even know he was in this movie. I didn't either. Yeah.

So, he showed up. Yeah, Andy Garcia shows up. And I'm looking at the IMDB. He's listed as Captain Norris. Andy Garcia. Yeah, he shows up at the end. And it is such a, like, is that Andy Garcia?

Yeah, that's Andy Garcia. Why are you in the movie for five seconds? The guy that walks out, And see all the big... Really? Yeah. At the very... Yeah, with the beard.

What, that seems like a... He didn't even have a line. Yeah, I was just like, why are you in this movie? He's like a waste of money. I mean, I can understand he... You've seen Ghostbusters, right, the newest one. Yeah, I can understand that one because, you know, he's revealed as the mayor. And it's like, oh, it's Andy Garcia.

But this one, I'm just kind of like, why are you in this movie? Yeah, he had no relevance at all. I guess Chris Pratt wanted less money than Keanu Reeves. Oh, okay. They had something left over. What are we going to do with it, Andy Garcia? But with that aside, I thought it was a great movie. You know, there was funny parts.

There was emotional parts. You know, I felt like they did a good job as far as the whole, stress and worry of the ship you know coming apart or failing yeah it's kind of a stretch

it on believability at that point because it's always you know he has to save everything at the very last second and he's standing right in front of this little corridor with his little heat shield holding the door open I'm like you know you couldn't like shoot to the left

maybe a foot yeah which which is amazing again, like I said, he's the greatest mechanic ever because he can fix this ship. Yeah, exactly. Which I'm trying I was trying to figure out throughout the movie

what type of mechanic he is because it seems a little complex this ship and he kind of figured it out pretty fast. I probably said that was probably the only drawback how quickly he

especially when they get to the, I guess the engine room and it's just this big, vast room of shit. Yeah. They're like, how are we going to find it? They seem to find it pretty quickly. Yeah, no kidding. That was kind of a...

It looks sort of chaotic there, but they made it happen. Yeah. So I think we probably spoiled this movie enough. If you guys haven't seen this movie, movie. Judge of our ratings, you definitely should go check this out. Which it's kind of,

I've seen the box office numbers, and it's like kind of taking a hit financially. Is it? Yeah, I don't think that sucks. Yeah, I don't think they promoted it right. Yeah, I don't even think it's earned its money back yet. That's crazy, because I, like, it's such a good movie.

And I think that they just, it was really lacking on the promotion of it. Because it's like, it's more, it's like castaway, but in space, you know, with Chris Pratt. Yeah, especially in this day and age when you get multiple trailers for movies. Yeah. I believe this one only had one trailer. Yeah. And I don't remember even seeing it as much.

And there was no real hype at all behind it, but it's got a hell of a cast. You know, I mean, Chris Pratt and Jennifer Lawrence. Yeah, those are major stars right there. Yeah. And a couple people I talked about the movie. movie two didn't even realize the movie it came out. So, yeah, I probably blame this on the studio. It was not good marketing.

Yeah, definitely not good marketing, which sucks because it's such a good movie. Yeah, so. All right, well, I guess that about wraps up that one. So anything else we need to discuss before we outro? up here, believe Lance is here. All right, guys. So as always, listeners, we want to thank you guys for all listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We'd love to hear your feedback and ideas.

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Well, it's been a good year. I mean, but there's definitely a couple of stinkers in there, so it should be a fun show. So until the horror returns again, good