The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #306: Black Sunday (1960) & The Lords Of Salem (2012)

Episode Date: April 6, 2022

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I'm Lance. As always, we got Brian. We got Philip and lookie, lookie, who's here. We got Nezah in the house. What's going on, guys? So... Well, for Witchboard Week, we gotta have him. Same old under the weather.

I feel like shit, but I was at the movie the other night, watching this movie, which board? I'll pop off cool the week. I've actually kind of got a horror. All right. Well, okay, so first is maybe not a horror one, more of a crime thriller. Untamed on Netflix. Oh, with Eric Banna.

Yes, Eric Banna. I keep wanting to call him 5-O-1 or whatever. pretty good man it was it was a really solid series it's kind of a slow burn in the beginning but it's a good uh like murder drama uh he's like the the uh fed at the yosemite national park so he basically runs everything like there's nobody above him so he can do whatever the fuck he wants and so he's running this whole investigation on this dead girl. And it goes through the series. It says it's coming out with a season two,

which I don't think is necessary because they wrapped it all up in a nice little bow and I don't know where they're going to go from there. Hard to tell, huh? But yeah, good one. My actual cool of the week is I finally got around to watching. Don't, no, blink twice. Ah, okay. I was a fun movie, man.

Yeah. Yeah, I had a pretty good time with it. Very culty. I liked it. Yeah, what's the name did a great job? Zoe Kravitz's first directorial movie. Yeah, I was totally expecting it to be some woke bullshit, and it wasn't. I mean, I guess there's a little aspect, but nothing major, you know.

It's not so in your face that it's, you know, Black Christmas level. Oh, no, definitely not. And not even the route that I expected them to take. I thought it was pretty good, man. It was a solid movie. That's the one I've been thinking about all week. Cool. Never.

What's that? It's not my cool of the week. Fucking internet went out again. Oh, yeah. Son of a bitch. Let's see how long we can go. All right, man. Hang in there.

Hang in there, Nez. What's your cool of the week, Des? Alien Earth. I liked what's happening. The third episode. was the other night. I still need to watch that. I didn't get to watch it until today when my internet was on.

It came on for a little bit this morning before I went back out, but I had it on it long enough so I can download it to my iPad. So I was able to watch it. My stupid Disney decided to log out in the living room, and I'm like too lazy to sign it back in because I don't know what the fuck the password is. I'm like, damn it. I guess I'll have to watch it somewhere else. You got to get on that alien earth.

There's some interesting things happening. Like, I like Timothy Olafant's character. I like him in a lot of stuff. He's giving that guy some attitude in this new episode. I had issues with it, but I'm like, well, let me just, let me just finish it out because I'm just like, I don't know what you guys are doing, but all right, let me, let me see where the show goes. Because I don't like what they're talking about.

Ace and out Prometheus and Covenant. Well, Covenant, that was trash. Get rid of that. I don't necessarily think that's the thing they're doing. I mean, we got to wait until to see what the endgame is. No, that's what I'm saying. But, I mean, from what I was reading, the showrunner was like, nah, we're not even going to go that route.

We're going to not even talk about it or anything. I'm like, ha. Yeah. See, there's a lot of haters on Prometheus. That's my favorite of the prequels. Yeah,

that one was good. That was amazing in film. Covenant was trash. Yeah. It was boring. Oh, man. But I like what's going on.

We'll see where it goes. But like I said on East Society, for those of you that listen, I said, they better give me a damn good reason why nobody knows. this is happening on earth. I was worried about that too.

Because I was like, wait, what this is happening on Earth? And you guys were talking about, nobody knows this. Of course, it'll be a company cover-up. Because even in aliens, when Ripley was doing that little, her little interview with the company, one of the ladies said that you, it said in her report said that you came across an alien life form that's not been seen in over,

five to 700 different planets. So I'm like, but again, they could cover it up. And you got to remember there's two big companies involved. Yeah. And I did like that they brought up the different kind of synthetics and

all that. I thought that was cool because they first mentioned that in the one of my girl. Alien Resurrection. shout out to Winona because she wasn't a synthetic like Ash and Bishop she was something different because they said in that movie that there was a bunch of them they made but like I guess got really smart and got away so they were out hiding so I kind of see I like what they're doing here it started out a little slow they're still trying to world build and everything but

what's going on I'm enjoying it but the thing I love the most is really right before the show ends, they kick in with some badass songs. Old school. That always helps. Metallica this week. Yeah, the first episode was Black Sabbath, Mob Rules,

when Ronnie James was the singer. Yeah. The second episode ended with Tools, Stink Fist. Oh, nice. So they ended with Metallica's wherever I'm in Rome. All right. I was like,

oh, yeah. But I like what they're doing. I mean, if you really read the lyrics to those songs, they do kind of fit into what's happening in each episode. But, I mean, I'm enjoying it from, I think it's an eight episode series. So we're three in. Perfect. And I like what's happening so far.

But, I mean, again, I have my issues with it, but I just said, we'll just see how it wraps up. But, yeah, that's my cool, the week. That's the only thing I really got to watch. Dio's a little bit of a goober. I liked all the Black Sabbath Dio stuff. I mean, I thought it was good. It wasn't terrible. I don't know.

With different singers with bands, like Van Halen. I like all the Van Hagar stuff, that's good. But when he was singing the David Lee Roth stuff, it just didn't. Yeah, it doesn't hit the same.

Yeah, so. It's just the freaking rainbow in the dark, man. Ride the tiger. You can see his stripes, but you know he's clean. Oh, don't you see what I mean.

No, dude. I don't. Not at all. All right. That was my rant. Brian, do you know what that means, man? No, I don't. Right.

Right. Sounds good, right, when he's singing it. You saving out, Brian, or you want to go next? I'll go quick because I had shit luck with movies this week. That's what we like to hear. Come on. Oh, do you? well we me and my daughter continued our conjuring universe marathon this week we did the curse of lila rona

oh that's still a movie yeah weirdly they say is not a part of the universe but set in the universe i guess because it has nothing to do with a warrant case yeah it was until it sucked and they were like oh that was yeah it's not really a part of it even though they have the priest from Annabelle and they do a they do a flashback to Annabelle one but it's not part of the Conjuring universe okay

are you watching these at home or are you doing that Regal or AMC come watch them all on a big screen no we're waiting she wants to catch up on all these at home and she wants to go see the new conjuring in the theater

are we excited about the new one I'm kind of excited to see it be over. Is it really over? Optimistically hopeful is where I land. It's over with Patrick Wilson and Vera Formiga. They'll recast younger. They'll do prequels. Oh, flashback stuff.

I'm excited for my daughter, because out of all the conjuring movies, universe movies we watched, the main conjuring movies. are her favorite, so she's into them. She'll enjoy it. Yeah. Let's see. I watched one that has nothing to do with the

Conjuring universe called The Conjuring Take. I saw that. I saw you post that. Started off promising and just completely got fucking boring midway into the end. It's like

somebody dies and they're going through their stuff and they find these, T. VHS tapes and they play them and each is a different segment. And the first couple were kind of cool, kind of comedic. And I was kind of digging

it. And then as the segment's gone on, I was just like, when is this going to be fucking over? It sounds like a good idea, at least, you know? Yeah. And I checked out another found footage movie. This one's made by,

I don't know if you guys know the YouTuber, call me Chris. She's kind of popular on YouTube. Not my generation, man. Never heard of it. Okay. She and another YouTube. Basically, they play themselves and they're doing the whole, I know a haunted house we can live stream at and check out and do the whole paranormal

investigation thing. It's nothing you haven't seen before. And dead stream. Dead stream, but without the cool shit. And the humor. Okay. This House of Eden. Well,

I saw that. Deadstream's hella good. Yeah, it's excellent. All right. I haven't seen it yet. I'm going to see it. Oh, Deadstream?

Yeah, that one's awesome. Yeah, I was going to watch House of Eden. I didn't get around to it. Don't bother. Okay. And I've seen some of her YouTube stuff. She's really likable, kind of fun.

So I was kind of expecting something different. But it's just, like I said, Phil, you brought it up Deadstream. Same scenario, but no humor. Nothing new happens. Nothing cool. Yeah. Well, that's too bad. So I guess my cool the week will have to be a non-horror thing this week.

And I checked out the first episode of The Hunting Wives on Netflix. Oh, AJ saw that. Yeah, my wife has been watching that. I've caught a few episodes. Not bad. Yeah. Sex, drugs, guns, murder. All the good stuff.

Texas. They are all whores. Yes. In the American way. They are definitely all horrors and they're not afraid to tell you that they're all horrors. What's this? I like horse. That's a bunch of pride.

Like you guys know Malin Ackerman? She was Silk Specter and the Watchmen. Yeah, cute blind. She gets naked like 60 seconds after you meet her. What is this now? Netflix. There are some sex scenes for sure. Although she is

aged not as gracefully as I would have liked her to. Yeah, I was kind of wondering because they give her the big hair, you know, the big Texas hair, kind of Texas housewife. And I was wondering, did they kind of age her up? But then when she got naked,

And I was like, oh, you got old. Yeah. Well, because like she's she's starring next to, what's that girl's name? Brittany Snow. Yeah. Yeah. And like Britney Stowe is not that far off of her age and she still looks super young. Is Malin Ackerman a giant or something?

There's Britney Smell super small. I think she's like Swedish or something, so probably. Okay. But yeah, it's intriguing me enough. there's a little mystery in there at the end of the first episode. Somebody gets murdered, but you don't see who does it. And you got a lot of interesting characters. Look like some deception and backstabbing going on.

Yeah, I'm into it. Is that crazy? Yeah. Okay. I'm watching something. I'm just kind of scheming through. Got you checking it out. All right.

Looking for the nude parts, huh? Yeah. This chick, man, she always gets naked and everything. The Washman girl. Yeah. Oh, yeah. Okay. Well, I can't remember a whole lot of things that I've seen her in, I think.

She was in The Heartbreak Kid with Ben Stiller. Yeah. Oh, wow. I don't know. I forgot about that. I forgot about that. I said the line she said, but. Oh, man.

What she's saying is? I can't see it. Okay. That bad. That bad. I know what you're talking about. The same scene she was telling him to cock me. Yeah.

Kyle driver me. Sounds like she hasn't changed. Good for her. Keep acting. She wanted that giant blue dick. Oh, that's right. That's right. I think Dirty Steve was in Scream.

Yeah, when he was started out the movie in normal detective and then got revealed as the wacky killer. Yeah. Spoiler like... Oh, boy. But yeah, hunting-wise, it's going to have to be my cool of the week. Horror really let me down.

I've been trying to catch up on a lot of stuff that came out this year. So, those were the newest ones. Got to save some stuff for October, Brian. Oh, I did start... I also started... It's an old show.

Kingdom with Frank Grillo. That's pretty good. Good, the MMA show, right? Yeah, I'm like three episodes in. Fantastic so far. Eddie was always about that. You remember? On the bench cast?

Yeah, it's not too bad. I don't think we ever finished it. Maybe we'll pick it up again. Yeah, all three seasons are on Prime right now. I was just skimming through Prime and saw that. And I was like, oh, I've always heard good things about it. fan of MMA, so let me

check it out. Oh, Nez, did you hear the news? After Clash at the castle, there'll be no more of WWPLEs on Peacard. Yeah, the ESPN. Yeah, they're starting early. I mean,

from what I understood, I mean, I have the Disney Plus Hulu ESPN deal. I was watching some guy on TikTok. He said, you can watch them still so you don't have to pay the $30. Just log into ESPN Plus or whatever with your Disney account. I said you're paying for it. Okay.

I mean, if that's the case, then I'll get ESPN for that much. But I'm not paying no $30 a month because I don't even watch it. If I watch ESPN, it's like clips on YouTube. Makes sense. Yeah. I'm just like, man, they just... That's the only ESPN I ever watch unless the Cowboys are playing on Monday night.

Oh, boy. They just... If this, if it doesn't work, yeah, I ain't paying an extra $30 just to watch... Wrestling? Man, man. I got another way we can watch it. Yeah, but I'm just like, damn, man, this...

Man, they're killing me over there, man. And, uh, welcome to the wrestling returns moment. Um, fucking, what's her name's pregnant? So she's got to give up the belt again? Oh, you can't wrestle. Can't wrestle pregnant. I know, but I'm just like, did this happen to her twice. Well, the first time when she won, she got hurt and had to give it up.

But now she was getting a good run, heel run, and I'm loving it. Now, sorry, bros, but I got to give this belt up and got baby ooze coming. Or her husband took her promo seriously when she told everybody to get off her back and big gym. get on my back. I guess. He got on that back and now she pregnant. That was happening.

She said it was too much Netflix and chill. You'll be running right. Maybe. I mean, yeah, good for them. I think it's their first kid or hers. I don't know about him, but

I'm just like, oh, man. I don't know what they're doing anymore, man. W.W.E. is all over the place. And it's just, I don't know. I mean, Romans heard that, well, supposedly. It's filming Street Fighter.

Yeah. All part of the script, guys. That's why Cody lost the belt. So. Is he fucking Gile and Street Fighter? That's what they're saying. They're going to give them that fucking hair. Just don't go out of control.

Give it a little, like, Van Dam for as bad as that movie is, go back and listen to the action. returns. I don't know a couple years ago Brian and I did it but Street Fighter is going to be fucking awesome until Cody shows up on screen with that fucking hair and it's going to take me out of it. Don't go out of control with the hair. A small little

cut, all right. I mean, I'm cool with it, but don't. Van Dan said, hell on you. Cody's got that list too. I don't know, maybe he's got a speech therapist coach. I don't know, man, but just don't Van Dam didn't have nothing to do with that hair. So, and And I don't know.

But speaking of wrestlers, did you watch that new, well, two movies, actually. Happy Gilmore 2 and that new Eddie Murphy movie? Yeah. Because Roman Raines is in that Eddie Murphy one. I haven't got there yet, but I saw his name pop up. Don't get too excited for that one. And Becky Lynch was in Happy Gilmore 2. MJF was in Happy Gilmore.

Oh, that's right. He was his son. That movie was all right. I mean, I laughed. I mean, I wasn't expected too much. It's funny, man. Come on. It was funny.

What are people expecting? It's hard to follow up the original. That movie's a fucking classic, man. Yeah, it wasn't as good as the first one. But yeah, everyone, because people were like, oh, man, this movie's terrible. Man, it was funny. It's not that bad.

Yeah. Yeah. It's not great. Yeah, I mean, it's not that bad. I'm not making my best of in the year, but it was funny. And I laughed. I watched it twice. so I don't know

but yeah the Eddie Murphy one I was falling asleep and did you guys already talk about the war of the world's one with ice poop no it's coming up I haven't gotten to my cool of the week yet guys firmly planted on one of my list that the end of the game oh man I mean nothing against

America's most wanted but come on man I mean he could have at least memorized his lines instead of reading it off something Well, I guess if you're going to sit in front of a computer, you may as well. Yeah, you might as well have it right there. It was just the only, that, none of that bothered me.

I thought it was fine. There's just another way to tell the story. The only thing I didn't like was the effects of the tripos. I mean, that was like, like Z-level sci-fi channel. I was just like, come on. It reminded me of what's that company, the asylum? asylum was a little better than that Brian come on I was like damn you got all his Amazon money and this is the best you can give us

or ice keep taking it all this was like a COVID movie that's been set on a shelf I think they made it I think they made it and then Amazon bought it yeah really with all that product placement you don't think it was like set up that way Brian I thought it was an Amazon movie I thought they made it I did too with all that Amazon stuff yeah maybe they were like look at all this Amazon stuff we put in here you guys got to buy the movie that makes perfect sense you just crack the code that that's exactly what it was there's aliens

we even put a penis rocket come on if minus the shitty effects I enjoyed the film I didn't turn it off but I was I was just like just get better man I mean oh I didn't turn it off either I I couldn't take my eyes off of it. It would have been better if they just didn't even show what was going on outside. Maybe just kind of quick little, small little video screen on his screen. Make you imagine it, kind of like the original radio play, kind of? I think they should have did that, went that route. That doesn't matter.

It's shitty it either way. How was that? That was scary. Not great. I mean. I liked it. It wasn't as good as the original. I loved it.

I mean, the original one was my favorite, man. That was the all-or-nothing days, all models and everything. That was hella good. But Tom Cruise, I like that one just because of other than him. I was happy they went to the tripods instead of the spaceships that we got in the original one. But it was good. I liked it. I remember Tom Cruise gets a lot of shit, but that little motherfucker connect.

Yeah. And he never ages. No, he doesn't. Speaking of who doesn't age, Eddie Murphy. They even said it in the movie. Oh, yeah. I'm not even going to watch that one, dude. That looked really boring.

What movie is he in? What's it called? Pickup? Okay. It's him and that one dumb guy that was banging all the hot chicks. That guy, that guy, Pete Davidson? Yeah, King of Staten Island.

Yeah. Well, we got Andrew Dice Clay in it. Really? Yeah, I'm glad he went back to Dice. I'm not watch it then. I didn't know he was in it. He's in it. I mean, that's about as much as I say, he's in it.

Yeah. Hey. Came in it. It was funny to see. Well, when it was starting, and you see all the names that are in it and his came across and they threw dice in there. So I was like, all right, cool.

That works. I know he's not for everyone, but that's my childhood. My teen years. Hey, that's funny. That shit was hell of funny. Hickory dickory doc. That was a classic. Oh, man.

All right, since you guys are talking about War of the Worlds, Brian, let's pivot over to my cool of the week. Are you all ready for this? Can you believe it? War of the Worlds? I was tempted because this one is so fucking bad that it's good

like this is the epitome of so bad it's good you guys you're talking about the the special effects of the the aliens and everything it's just I don't know I think you could play a drinking game for every time that that ice just looks at the

at the camera goes damn it's like every fucking two minutes This dude's just saying, damn. And then like the people that show up in it. Yeah, like this, yeah, different characters saying damn or whatever. But these other characters were idiots, man, like his son-in-law, and he's over talking to his son and his daughter and everything.

And the car, the scene with the car, I don't know. This one seems ripe for commentary, Brian. Uh-oh. What do you think? I don't know. We'll see. Very, very good. I mean, I like the presentation of it all.

I mean, when we're seeing ice and all his TV screens or his computer screens and Evil Longoria or Eva Longoria, they're still beautiful. I liked what was going on. It was just when they showed the spaceships and took me out of it. I would have been fine if you just seen his son or whoever he was talking to and explosions and everything going off in the background. That would have been fine. We didn't need to see the tripods.

Or if we did, maybe something really quick. Yes, we did. Brian's right. That first one came across the screen. I went, oh. It was rough. And it got worse, right? It got worse.

Yeah, like killed my buzz. Man, I was like, man. Like the pixels were messed up. It's hilarious when they fell over. Yeah, just toppled over. Like a toy? Like a Lego toy or something? I wish we had delivery here, man.

Like that. Yeah. AT ATs and got me a Star Wars. Yes. A little AT-A-T Star Wars toy, right? So I thought about it, Brian. I almost made it my cool of the week. Just simply because that's so much fun watching it.

Well, look, you guys were giving me hell about saying I didn't like the, I know what you did last summer, but I had fun in the theater. So this is one, it's hard for me to give it a zero, even though my brain tells me, I should because I had so much fun watching it. Just like the way these people are overacting and like you said, reading everything is and once they get to the special effects, it's like it's all over.

Wow. This sounds even shittier than I could have possibly imagined. Have you not seen it? No. You have to see it. I've been debating on watching it. I've never heard anybody say, yeah, that one's really good. No, just watch it.

Just watch it. I wouldn't be surprised with all the publicity it's getting that they make a sequel. I wouldn't be surprised that they made a sequel. Oh, that would be great with sharks. Sharks have to be in the sequel. For as much as everyone's hating the film, that's what's getting everyone to watch it, which is good. I mean, we bashed it on E-Society and we're semi-bashing it here. but I say watch it.

I mean, I did enjoy it. Will I watch it again? Not anytime soon. But maybe if someone's over goes, hey, man, I hear this movie's bad. Let's watch it. I wouldn't say, no, no, don't watch it. I'll sit and watch it again.

What was that? Heavy metal nightmare or some shit? Yes. Rock and roll nightmare. Okay, that's the so bad. It's good that I want. It's at that level, Philip. No.

It's totally at that level. You don't think so. I say it's... You think it's even more elevated than that, huh? No. Rock and roll nightmares on its own category. The guy was fighting sock puppets and karate chopping starfish or whatever the fuck it was.

Rubber starfish? That was what it was. It was that whole last scene where you're like, what the fuck is happening? What did you guys give? I know what you did last summer? I gave it a five. Lance, do you remember?

I remember Lances. He gave it one out of ten and then he used the word I was entertained. Yeah, I was definitely entertained by the crowd in the theater. I can't remember what I gave it. I think you were four, four and a half, something like that. That sounds about right.

Seems reasonable. What are you waiting for, Nez? I'm about an eight. What are you waiting for? Oh, man. I liked it. I liked it. I mean,

we got to hear about this. We got to hear about this. I mean, yeah, that's true. At first I was thought, I thought it was just a flat-out remake. And then I'm,

wait a minute, what can't be if you're bringing in Julie and Freddie Prince? And God damn, Jennifer Love, who, hot damn. They're trying to erase us. But Freddie Prince,

Jr., I was like, maybe he's just a really bad actor. Maybe. I mean, I didn't be. I didn't never, hated him, but his podcast made me love him more.

That's pretty scary. I love that. Shout out to John Lee Brody. I mean, listen to that show. I love listening to him. I mean, I listen to it all the time. Well, he's on hiatus. Well, he's on a break. Right. Probably because of the movie. But I'm just like, I like him. And I didn't, I didn't bother me. I'm glad it wasn't just him and Jennifer love the whole time. They let this new cast shine. But it was basically beat for beat as the other ones. I mean, I really wanted to see this just to, other than Jennifer Love, I wanted to see some good kills. And there was a few in there.

CGI, of course, but I liked what's happening. And the ending with the credit scene? Oh, man, I should you not. There were people cheered and clapped during that credit scene. Was it the credit scene or was it when the credits rolled? No, it was when the guy should have seen it by now, but when a certain. a certain singer popped up again. Right.

I even went, oh shit. And then everyone started clapping. See, what that end credit implies, I'd rather watch that movie than the one they made. I think you're going to.

I didn't even like the second. I didn't even like the second one that much, but it made me re-watch it. After I saw that, I went home and threw in the second one just to re-watch it. I didn't even like the first one. realize how bad it was.

I mean, shout out to Jack Glack. We're not even putting his name in it. But that third one, trash completely. Don't even, don't even bother. No need to watch that one. But this new one, I liked it. I had a good time with it. The audience.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion. These teens and old schoolers, old school 90s kids that saw the original, I liked it for what it was. It was, all right. We're getting the slasher horror. film. I didn't know there were. I know what you did last summer stands. So I was all for it, man. Nez, let me ask you a question. Oh, one more thing. You guys are fucking wrong, man. Goulies is a 10. Criters is

all right. Critters is okay. You know the Gullies better than critters? Yeah, Gulles was hell of good. I saw that in the theater. Like the weekend it came out. We've, me and my buddy, and we rushed at the theater. We saw it Saturday. And you rushed out. No, man, that was hell of good. We watched it twice. It was back in the days when they didn't kick you out. So when it was over, we got to see them. We watched it again.

Plus, everybody was really high. So that made it better. That makes a difference. I love that movie. I got the double goolies one and two Blu-ray. I have that one. And I have it on VHS somewhere. Let me get a steel book.

No, I wish. I want one of those, the little bald one that came out of the toilet. I want one of those. I see him everywhere. All these horror shops or conventions. The statue? No. That's the actual,

just the doll or whatever. I do want that statue, the one when he was coming out of the toilet. I think Full Moon features sells that one. I do want that one. That's kind of cool. I love that movie. For as stupid as it was and goofy,

there was only like maybe one person in it that I knew everyone else I had no idea. Yeah. And the little puppets that they use that just kind of just, They didn't do anything. Just goddamn, and they, like, somebody was hiding, and they just went like that. They were like, fuck, they look too much like puppets.

Let's put some slime on them. And just the whole devil thing. That was my main thing was they didn't do any. They were creepers. They just hung around. Hunter, hung around the corners. Had somebody turned their head, right? They were like little meeting the times all the time.

We were like watching the shitty version of Fraggle Rock. Oh, I hadn't even thought about that. I think it was from the side of the humans. They did more in the second one, plus that one little toilet one got hella big. Is that the carnival one? Yeah, I haven't seen the Gulli. Spoiler, that's my... Spoiler, the second one's my favorite.

Oh, I love the second one. I've never seen... I'm not sure that I've seen it. The college one. I've heard of it, but I've... College, but I've never seen that one. I've only seen the first two. because the second one went straight to

at that time VHS. I don't think I've seen it. Well, which one, the second one? Yeah. Brian's going to get you caught up, I'm sure. I know. Yeah, it was always on TNT, TBS, like all the time. Like a regular rotation.

Okay. I'll know when I see it. It's probably out there somewhere. It's probably two-y or something. Yeah. All right, Nez. Nez, I got to hit you up. I was like, what the fuck is going on here, man?

All right, dude. Let me get you off this. I got to try to get you off, Gulli. Do you watch Dexter? Mm-mm. You haven't seen any of them? Not the new one. But you've seen the old ones.

Yeah, I've seen the original series. And that one when he came back, I didn't care for that one. I didn't either. Yeah, I didn't either. I haven't started this new one. But I saw a lot of, everybody was hyping it up at Comic-Con. I didn't, I just kind of stayed away from everything. I would say, I'd say you got to check it out, even if you skip some of the other seasons,

because I think it peaked it, wouldn't you say peaked at the Lithgow season and kind of went downhill a little bit after that? Um, I liked the initial run. The whole, the whole series was good. Yeah, Lithgow was probably my favorite. I did see pieces of that season. I did like the one when Tom Hanks, the son, was it Colin Hanks? I did like that one.

Yeah, it was all right. I just thought it peaked at Lithgow, but dude, I think this new one is right up there. This is probably like, what's said? It should have just ended with the series. They should have,

and that's what I thought, but it's like this one's got something magic about it. I don't know if it's the writers or, you know, what they're coming, ideas they're coming up with, but this one's awesome. And like the idea and the way Peter Dinklitz

fits into the timeline, is phenomenal. So, dude, I, I, I would recommend it. You're not, you guys aren't watching it, are you? Mm-mm. I only seen one season of Dextel. Yeah. I would, uh, I highly recommend it.

Like this new one's really cool. I've seen bits and pieces. Like the Lithgow stuff, I did watch a few episodes of that. I got sucked into that one. Yeah, they get a ton of, they got a ton of guest stars this season. And I don't want to give, see, I don't want to give anything away because I wasn't expecting this little club that they set up. The Pocodot man is in it.

So it's got that too. Thinking of that, man. Anyway. Weird. He is super weird. I saw him at Comic Con. Oh, you saw him in person. Oh, I bet he's super weird in person.

I didn't get to talk to him, but I saw him, dude. He just, Theo met him, and he said he was kind of different is what he said. He really is that way, huh? Yeah, dude. I mean, I don't know if it was the role he was playing. he was there doing a signing at dark horse for some comic book that he did right but he had like hell of like just made his face whiter i don't know some kind of like pancake makeup right yeah i was like i was like what the fuck is wrong with him and then he everyone that came out of that line were like

dude that was that was kind of weird maybe uh maybe he's got a skin condition or something i if the horror are like, that guy's kind of weird. He should probably be on a watch list. Great actor, though. Everything I've seen him and I've liked him. Late night with the devil was awesome. It's going to be M. Bison. Oh, is that?

Oh, perfect. I like it. I like that. Who's that, Brian? He's going to be as good as... M. Bison from Street Fighter. Oh, shit. He's the Roald Julia.

What? Rest in peace. But I don't know, man. I mean, I don't know the gentleman. I would like to meet him at some point, but he just, I mean, watching him walk. I mean, he was kind of smiling and smirking at everyone, but he kind of like, I don't know, dude, I got a weird vibe just looking at him. Maybe he's possessed. If that's the character is playing, man, cool.

I mean, all right. Maybe it has something to do with the comic book, because I think if it's a person, the comic book I'm thinking of. I don't know the title, but I think he wrote and created the character in it. Okay. Yeah, it was, I don't know what it was. Theo's the one that had the book and he signed it. So yeah, he's playing a role. I'm just going to be a weirdo around these people. It'll keep me entertained. Theo got a horror comic book signed. Well, before we go to Comic Con, they, you sign up for all these like raffles and drawings for signings, for, to get in the funco or any of those i want to get in the funco line so i'm for the first time

we got we got in there but i mean the selection was cool but it wasn't like the years before when they had awesome things that everybody wanted this one was like it's changed huh i'm like i got some stuff but it was just like no i'm sure you did blew my mind or anything so but yeah i mean that's how he won he won a signing for the dark horse so he was able so he goes well I'm in this line. I might as well to buy the book. I don't know if he read it yet. But he bought the book just so he can sign it. So that's cool.

I would have done the same thing if I want to. That's pretty cool. We're going to need him to read the comic book and review it on East Society. Yeah, I'll tell him to read it. I don't even know what I don't remember what it's called. I don't know what it was about either. I think this is the second run. The first run, I think, was like super popular.

So he was able to do his second series. And that's the polka down man that actually writes him? Yeah. Yeah. That's a trip. All right. Well, he's he's one of us, right? Yeah.

He's a weirdo, but he's also sounded weirdo. The way he sounds, he might be beyond us. I know. I think so. Maybe he's an alien. There it is. Oh. Yeah.

But yeah, the series is called Count Cowell, Cowell. like it's a vampire no count crowley okay I think it's a vampire oh he's a demon makes sense right the alien thing makes sense maybe his alien mind is like this is what people dress up at comic conventions yes

so but maybe aliens or demons that's been my thing lately I'm not sure how it's going yeah count Crowley Alistair Crowley Did you know? The guy that started NASA was like pen pals with Alistair Crowley and a super weird occultist guy. Yeah, there's some weird shit.

That's okay, convenient. Anyway, continue. I'll drop that little bit of knowledge on you and scoot away. All right, so I struggle with making War of the Worlds cool of the week. I struggle with doing Dexter again. Gangs of London is still badass. You know, you guys have seen that. I know Brian has.

No, I need to check it out. You've seen those, Nez? Gangs of London? No, not yet. I don't want to see it. What's it on? It's on AMC Plus. Yeah, it's on Netflix, right?

But it's leaving Netflix in like a few days or something like that. All right. Take it out while I can. I still, yeah, it's out there. I still catch it on AMC Plus, but what the director, Brian, what was the movie that he did? The raid. Oh, yeah.

Yeah. So, like, every episode is kind of like a mini, mini raid. That sounds awesome. Yeah, lots of good fight scenes, lots of gore. It's pretty crazy. But I guess I'll just go, there's a new movie on Netflix. I kind of hate to, like, settle for a cool of the week, but I really want it badly to do War of the Worlds. but I can't do it.

I can't do it. It's too bad. So you've seen that the poster for that one on Netflix, Night Always Comes. Oh, Vanessa Kirby? Oh, yeah. I watched that too. It's pretty good.

It's pretty good. It's got that, Philip, wouldn't you say it's kind of got that high-stress-type Safty Brothers-type feeling? Yeah. They do. Doesn't she have to like come up with an amount of money over a certain period of time, like overnight or something?

Yeah. Yeah. She's got to come up with like 25 grand like overnight, which there's not a lot of ways that's going to happen. Tell us about it, Philip. What kind of misadventures does she have? Eli Roth is in it. But it is. Oh, he is, huh?

Where is he? Damn, I didn't think about it. He's the dude that tried to rape her at the end, man. Spoiler. Oh, well, which one? She's got to come up with 25 grand. She's running through downtown in the middle of the night. Yeah.

Hour 48 minutes? That's perfect. They don't need to be 10 hours like all these other movies. Sex, drugs, grand larceny, and rock and roll. Yeah. All kinds of meth heads, opening safes for her. Yeah. It's a crazy ride.

It's like a Safty Brothers movie. Dane Dahan's in the movie. Dane Dhan owns the movie, man. He said meth heads. I haven't seen Dane in a while. Although at some point, I keep watching movies where these shitty people keep putting themselves in shitty situations and blaming everybody else.

And I'm like, hey, maybe the fucking problem is you. Good point, good point. All right. So that's cool of the week. But my mind keeps going to War of the Worlds. I can't help it. This is fantastic. Yes.

Yes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's her. She's good actress. I like her. Yeah. Well, your boys got new movies coming. Dane?

Tiger. Yeah, the Tiger. All right. Neuromancer. I kind of love seeing him and stuff. War Driver and the Queen of Fashion. That untamed. Okay.

So that was the, the. same people that did American Prime Evil with Dan Dehan. Yes, that was a good one. Did Untamed. Okay. Yeah. So,

I mean, that sort of sets the stage. It's not quite as exciting as, as American Primeval. Not as much shit happens, but it's, he was an Oppenheimer? Good quality.

Yeah. Yeah, he was the guy that kind of, kind of ratted on him, right? Got him in trouble with the government. And, yeah, he was a dick. Yeah, he was a dick in that movie.

I don't remember him in it. Stuttered out some lines Like he does. Yeah. You know, the usual, Brian. The last movie that I did like of his is that Valerian and the city of a thousand planets. That's what got this whole thing started.

Shit. All right. I liked it. I liked it, too. I loved it. I think the last thing I seen him in was that the stranger with my Monroe where he's like the serial

killer. Yeah. Oh, Dane Dahan is a serial killer makes sense. Is this a series? Because he hasn't slept in 27 years. They combined it on Hulu as a movie, one movie. Oh. Is it good? I like this act. I like it.

I mean, I like Michael Monroe, and I thought Dane DeHan was perfect as a creepy stalker. Just spot on casting, right? Even the polka dot man should start a club. Well, they should collaborate and do a movie. They should. Brian, do we have any news this week?

An hour later, we're on to our second. This has our news. We got a couple things. Let's see. Marlon Wayans is set to adapt Midnight Horror Story, the hits South Korean Celebrity Game Show where stars compete to tell the scariest tales before a panel of dark spirits.

That doesn't sound. great. I mean, yeah, nobody gives I don't know. What do you think, Naz? Oh, is that that crazy football head injury movie? No. We're off track. Morrowlyans is trying to do

whatever he can at this point, I think. Is that, is that the movie? That we're talking about? Yeah. No. Oh, I thought you say Marlon Wains? Yeah. Because when I saw weapons, there was a trailer for some crazy movie he was in.

Yeah, called him. Is that what it is? Yeah. It's not what we're talking about. I know. Okay. Well, you said Marlon Wayne. That was the first thing that popped on my head.

We watched a couple of weeks ago. There's a hits South Korean celebrity game show called Midnight Horror Story that he's adapting. Midnight Horror Story? Never heard of this? And he's, oh, okay, I did hear about this. Making an American version. You know what? Watch it be awesome.

Yeah. You never got some cool shit going on. Is it? Oh, I guess you can watch the South Korean one. When's this new one coming out? They haven't started. He just wanted to bring it to America? Yeah.

Well, I'll watch it. I want to watch this other one, though. The Korean one. Where can I watch it? I heard it's on YouTube. Yeah, YouTube. when did he become the horror guy well he's doing that movie him and we'll guess we'll segue to scary movies six is it a horror the him movie i think it is i think they psychological i think that guy

i well it looks like the movie like he sold his soul to become great in his profession but I have a theory that demons all of it's in his head. Yeah, I don't I don't like that theory, Brian. I'll be mad. That's what's going to happen.

He's going to wake up. We're going to be 100% in the whole time and at the end he's going to wake up laying on the field. Oh, man. That's going to suck so much. You can't end in a movie like that.

Just don't do it. It would be rough. That's like Dallas. But you're probably right. I'm a little bit worried because Jordan Peel was originally supposed to direct it and then he passed it off. Like he didn't want it or... I was going to say it looks very Jordan Peel-E. Jordan Peel-E!

Yeah. But Scary Movie Six, Anna Farris and Regina Hall are officially returning as Cindy and Brenda. We're going to see all of those. You know that. Has scary movie run its course? No. It's always new stuff to appear.

I think when the Wayans left the series and the studio tried to continue it on, I think that's when it took a dip. When I went to PG-13 is when I kind of... But does their brand of humor even still work? Yes. For Lance, yes. I think it'll be updated. No, I think it'll be updated, though, right?

Like with newer movies, there's always... there's always, there's more horror movies coming out now than ever. Listen, white chicks is one of my favorite movies of all times. Which they are doing, he also announced a sequel to that. No fucking way. Really? Of course. Everybody was mad about this one.

Why are they making another one? I mean, I'll watch it. I don't know anyone who was mad about it. I didn't think that they could do that kind of movie right now. Like Tropic Thunder when, that one. happen. It might. You never know.

Once's nut pulls off blackface somehow and it totally works. That was... Downey, Robert Downey Jr. Dr. Doom, huh? I don't know. What do you mean, you people? It was hilarious.

All right. On to the next one. The doof. Is it the dofer brothers? are Duffer brothers. Is it a Duffer or Duffer? I thought it was Duffer. I like the Dufth.

That's the person I heard it. I like it. The Dufre Duffer Brothers. The Dufre Duffers. After Stranger Things comes out, they are leaving Netflix. They have signed a four-year picture deal with Paramount. Huh. A.K.A. CBS All Access.

They've been doing this shit for a long time. I imagine they want to change a pace. So starting in 2026, they will leave and officially be with Paramount, and they are transitioning from series to theatrical releases. Okay. So maybe they'll do something with the South Park guys? Why? It's Paramount.

Don't they pretty much own Paramount now? I don't know. South Park is on Max, though. Is it on Paramount? Maybe it's on Paramount. I think it's Paramount. Okay. Yeah, because they're the ones that put out their movie.

Bigger, deeper, whatever that one was called. Classic. Classic. With Saddam and Satan. That's great. Also from Paramount. Paramount has made it a top priority to make a World War Z sequel. Okay.

why not? You know, I've rewatched World War Z quite a few times. That's a good movie. I like it, too. Yeah, I didn't know it was the highest grossing zombie movie. Oh, I didn't know that. I wouldn't call it a zombie movie, but it was a good movie.

And Brad Pitt is quickly becoming one of my favorite actors of all time. What? Not after the cool world? Well, yeah, no, I'm untowable. Me and my dad. daughter just watched an old, old movie from his from like the 80s,

and maybe from the early 90s, across the track. Across the track? I don't know. He's trying to be a, he's a high school track star, and his brother's Ricky, Ricky Schroeder. Oh, God. The most unbelievable casting his brother's, Ricky Schroeder and Brad Pitt. Well, one of them got the good DNA, right?

Yeah. It's like twins. A movie I did last year for 31 days of horror was cutting class. Have you guys seen that? Yeah. Yeah. I saw it way back when it came out, but I completely forgot about it. Yeah, I don't remember that one.

And it was good. I liked it for what it was. I mean, very young, Brad Pitt. It's not like one of his first movies? I think so. That makes sense. And we talked about the backrooms, uh, viral video. off of YouTube from Kane Parsons

that he's adapting into a featuring like film for 824 it is hitting oh it has begun production okay so most likely you probably get an early 2026 release

okay that's it more 824 stuff I'm happy yeah oh and 824 13 years old today wow lucky number That's like not old at all. You ready to go down there to the trailer park, Nez?

Really quick. Released 43 years ago yesterday, August 19th, the great Don Coscaroli's film Beastmaster. The first-43 years ago. That's what it says. Wow. Rest and peace, Tony Roberts. And John Amos. Yes.

As well. This movie, have we done this movie, Brian? No, we were going to do it. You don't need to. The geeks did it, and I didn't want to put something out at the same time as somebody else. Well, we can edit now. Yeah, it's due now, right? Well, if we're going to do a Beastmaster, we're going to have to do the sequels.

Well, we have to. I mean, the Double Feature I saw was the Beast Master was a new film, and John Carpenter's a thing was the second movie. What a difference in films, quality. Jesus Christ. I went to see the thing and and just was surprised with Beast Master. Shout out to what was it, Mark Price, was that his name?

Marks. No, Mark, not Mark Summers. Is it Sinclair? Mike Wozowski. That would be awesome. Mark Singer. Yeah, that was a...

Mark Singer, yeah. Mark Singer. Oh, okay. That sounds remarkable. believe he's in all the sequels. Every last one of them, huh? I know that there was one when he went into the present time. Yeah, he went through the portals.

Yeah, what was that? Beast Master 2. That one came out, 1991. I saw that one like on TBS or whatever. Beastmaster, I hardly know her. The third one. Beast Master, the Eye of Barakis. I have the Tiger.

I have Baracus. We'll put it on the list. But we owe Zim Vader some movies. He's been wanting us to finish the American Ninja franchise. Oh, classic. The third one is how many are they? I wanted to be a ninja so bad when I was that age. You, Philip, you are a ninja.

Come on. It's got Casper Van Dean in it. The great Tony Todd, rest of peace. and David Warner, rest in peace. Okay, great cast. Oh, man, this looks terrible. But it was a TV movie. I didn't even know there was a third one.

I saw the second one. Oh, don't, was there a TV series? And we're not covering that. You can say we're not. Is that all there is? Is three? There's three movies and there's a TV series? Okay.

Cover that too, man. Hell not. man, that's like a thousand episodes probably. Probably only a 10 episode show, man. Come on. 66. Oh, that was close. There was three seasons of this.

Maybe we're not covering that. Maybe watch the first episode just to see where it goes, but I didn't even know there was a series. Well, I know the Beast Masters. The first one was elegant. So, 43 years. Damn Lance World. I guess so. All right.

Well, in that case, dude, we're going down to the trailer park. Brian is going to bring us the big, the small, and sometimes the very, very weird. Was it one trailer tonight, or did I miss one? One trailer, and it is the newest one we got this week. It is directed by Ben Leenberg, and it is the paranormal horror comedy. I see comedy listed here on IMDB. Good boy. Told from the perspective of a dog.

Better not hurt that fucking dog. I think this is a fantastic idea. We all own dogs. We're all dog lovers. We've all had that moment when you've looked at your dog and he's just staring at nothing. Oh, yeah. Good point. And you tell him to stop it and he can't.

Yeah. You're freaking me the fuck out. Stop it. And the trailer from the movie, this actually looks like it's good quality, good directing and stuff. Right. And I've heard early reviews saying the dog was spot on. That sounds like a fake review. Spot on.

He went, he did a rover all over the stage. I mean, spot on. Come on, Brian. That was my word. That was my word. Oh, I thought the review said. He looks like a little border collie mix, dude. Border collies are super smart.

I've got a little border collie mix. She's awesome. I was a little disappointed. I thought when y'all said dog's point of view, I thought it was going to be filmed POV. No, I thought it was going to be filmed POV, right? Like you're the dog. Actually, that would have been kind of cool.

Except you got to get the dog reaction shots because the facial expressions. But like if they had one that was on like a little dog GoPro or something. that'd be kind of cool. I mean, we don't know we don't get those angles in a movie, but I agree with what Phil's saying. We've got to get the dog's reaction. Right. Because the dog facial expressions

are what's going to make this movie, for sure. Yeah. Right. I'm telling you, I mean it. It's definitely original. What do you think, Niz? As a dog lover, this seems mean. Fake or not?

They don't know. the dog doesn't know that's true that's kind of cool it looks cool I'll watch it but I'm gonna be like that's fucked up I mean I don't even like scaring my dog but

I mean from what they're shown in the trailer I mean it looks good I mean I love those kind of dogs or any dog but I don't know man it just seems cool I want to know what the dude mine is animal people think scared of her own fucking shats like, I come home from work and she's afraid.

She doesn't come out of the room for like five minutes until she's definitely sure it's me. Like how many, I mean, we may not think, whoever made this may not think anything, but this could be traumatic to that dog. I mean, you're like, oh, yeah, he did it. Well, you're getting a treat every time, but. Or this dog could have looked every second outfit. Yeah, but we won't know that. Maybe the dog is a great actor. Like Phil just described his dog, my dog is scared of listening.

Yeah. What? Scared of listening. Everybody else got it, Lance. What do you mean? He doesn't listen. He doesn't listen. Okay.

I don't know. But these are smart. They do a lot of tricks. It looks good. Maybe it's just well-trained. I'm a little slow sometimes. It looks good and it looks creepy. Yeah.

I mean, I want to, I want to. see it. I don't know if it will be in theater, but I... Yes, it is coming to theaters. Limited theater release October 3rd. Probably won't come around me then. But it does have the shutter

logo in the trailer, so, of course, shutter release after. Those fucking limited ones, man, they're like an hour and a half away from my house. Speaking of shit. Yeah. Did you guys do clown in the cornfield? Yeah. Yeah.

Did you guys like it? This is a bad movie. Oh man, I fucking loved it. I thought it was awesome. I'll give you my score right now. Nine. I just watched like three other movies with that same chick in it, though. She's really great.

Yeah, the little bitty girl. She's a little bit. She's an adult, but she's like super short. She's in a bunch of like Lifetime movies and then some other series my wife was watching. and like she's kind of the highlight of it. I did like the reveal in Clown and a Cornfield. I thought it was going to be like a supernatural type of thing. I didn't know it was going to be what it was.

And I enjoyed it. I thought it was cool. I thought the kills were awesome. I thought they could have went a little bit more hardcore on the kills. Also true. But they had some known people in it. So maybe the budget wasn't as big. If it was just stuck with nobody's, they probably would have went.

they had PG-13 it Kevin Duran clearly shot his scenes in like three hours Yeah He's always good though I love that guy Yeah the guys that I knew that were in

I thought they I thought they were really good I thought they did a good job I wasn't expected much Because some people were going I was movie stupid it's stupid And I'm like well I still want to see it Just so I can throw it on a horror list

And yeah man When it was over I mean I was laughing And at everything And yeah when I see CG fire all I think of is Lance but I mean it was it was good I did they did

the whole different that there was practicals which which I love and of course there was some CGI stuff but for what the movie was it was entertaining I mean don't expect too much yeah it wasn't half as bad as I expected it to be yeah it could have been worse

it was better than sharks of the corn oh yeah but yeah this movie with a dog man other than just how I feel about being mean animals, but I'm going to see it. I thought it looks good. It looks scary.

I might drive to go see this one, man. Yeah, I might have to. If it doesn't come around here, yeah, I got to drive somewhere to see it. All right. That's the only trailer we have this week, but on the Facebook main page and the group page, I did post a trailer that came out today for Halloween, the game.

Halloween the game. Oh, the video game. I'm watching that trailer right now. Do you get to play as Mike Myers? I don't know. At the end of the trailer, it said a single player mode or multiplayer mode. Sounds like fun. You got to be able to play Michael, right?

I'd be cool. I just kind of hoping it's not going to be like Friday the 13th or Texas Chainsaw Masker because those were basically the same game, but would different characters. I'm sure they listen to people, you know, and they'll make it something new. Maybe it'll be Halloween 3.

Put some new skins on it. Maybe it'll be Halloween 3. Well, John Carpenter's got something to do with this. Yeah, you know he's going to get paid. Cash and that. He always gets paid. How fucking old is John Carpenter? He's got to be 90-something, huh?

He's still out there doing his concerts. Yeah. Out there jamming. They're doing a music festival. aren't they? Yeah. Didn't he get some kind of residency? What?

I heard about that. Yeah. At the globe, right? It's like a short residency. It's not like years or anything. I heard about that. Yeah. Did not know that.

All right. What is this? Is this for all the... All right. Oh, it's singular or multiplayer. Is it PlayStation or Xbox or what is this? I don't know. I got both

I'll see it. I'll see it. It looks cool. I thought it was a movie. I didn't know it was a game. And we're getting another Resident Evil game too? Damn. Yeah, I think there's some kind of convention or something going on. They release a whole bunch of

video game trailers. Yeah, GamesCon is happening. I'm watching the Resident Evil Requiem. All right. So, yeah, this, this game, that Halloween game looks cool. I'm on board.

I just gotta get a, if it's for PlayStation, I need a new one. My four finally took a shit on me, so. I've never played a Resident Evil game. The first one is a classic. I played the first three on PS1. Then PS2 they came out of the code name

Veronica or whatever. Oh, yeah. I played that one. And then whatever, I think my son had one on GameCube. And I think that was the last one I played. I'm going to have to go get all the older. Resident Evil 4, I think, is what that one was. That one was pretty good. First one is classic.

Lance, I think on top of 31 days this October, I think the plan is me. She wants to play like all the old Resident Evil on the Silent Hill games. Oh, wow. Great. I haven't played those in years. Can you still play... I mean, I'm not hip to these new consoles,

but, like, plays it as your 5. Can you download or buy the old PS1 games? I think so. They're remaking all the old ones, remastering them all anyways. Because that first Silent Hill game

was hell of scary. Yeah, there's a couple of them I've been meaning to get on the computer. Because if they do, I never got to finish the thing. for uh was it PlayStation two or three i don't i remember i had it on xbox i didn't get to finish it i mean

i didn't either i like fucking saved it at a spot every time i continue the game i get hit one time and die started all over they just uh remastered that one too oh man see i know they remastered all the tony hot games those are the ones oh that's cool those are the ones i really want but for as far as horror games I was always fan of Resident Evil. I only played the first Silent Hill game.

I didn't play anything after that. And until dawn, Theo keeps trying to get me to play it. I bought it, but my son, he went right through it. And he watched the movie, and he was mad at it. Oh. Not me. I loved Until Dawn. That was hell of good.

I did too. Great special effects. Yeah, great special effects. But I kind of want to play the game now. Man, there's so many games I want to play. I just don't fucking have time. Yeah, I don't have no time to play. All right.

I guess that's my cue. My bad. We kept going. Listener feedback. This week, we shone the podcast spotlight on the Nightlight Horror Movie Club. The Nightlight Horror Movie Club is a weekly podcast for all things horror, including scary movies, true crime, the paranormal, and everything spooky. Right out of my alley. I like it.

All right. Nightlight Horror Movie Club. In regards to the weapons posters fan art in the Facebook group, Justin Stidman says, anyone know who the artist is for this? Yes, look in the hashtags. There it is. Ah, there you go.

But I know this one I just posted it. It's Alex Phoenix is the artist. Alex Phoenix. It's a nice artwork of Gladys looking. Yeah, that was... Pretty creepy. Have you seen it, Philip? No, she's a weird fucking character, man. I like her.

Oh, I'm going to send you guys a video later of this YouTube channel. They broke down the movie. Yeah. Really interesting stuff that I don't think any of us notice. I really want to see that. Her brooch, every time as the movie went on, her brooch was blooming. Oh, what? Interesting.

I guess that signify to her getting more strength. Yeah. It was like little things like probably. There's a lot of, this is a six-sense kind of movie. There's a lot of little layers to it that you probably didn't see before. Probably so. And that also, well, that begs my question too, though, Brian about how did the one character,

well, never mind. We'll talk later. That's not a movie for spoiling. I got you. So, all right. What did you guys give it? Eight. seven and a half.

I think I gave it a nine and a half. Yeah. Yeah, because I was for you to do ten. Yeah. He was right there, Brian. He was right there. I was whispering,

do it. He just needed a little nudge. Oh, man, that movie was a ten. That was hell of good. Oh, wow. Good movie. That ending blew my mind.

And seeing it on the big IMAX screen, it was glory. Yeah, so like, I think I felt like I wanted more from the end. because it was sort of chaotic and straightforward. But then I didn't hate it. I think I wanted more after it was over, but that's a good thing. I read that there was an alternate ending written to where Ruth Langmore forgot her name in the movie.

And the boy were going to steal a piece of the wood and go gather stuff from other people throughout the town and form their own army. And there was supposed to be just an all-out fucking chaotic battle at the end. Zombie-possessed war. Yeah. I mean, what happened was enough, man. I was like, well, don't overdo it.

Don't overdo it. I heard that they gave an alternate, well, it wasn't really an alternate ending, but it didn't have the voiceover at the end. Right? Of like the little kid telling the story. And that,

that didn't go over so well, and so they added the voiceover. I wasn't super happy with the voiceover, but I guess they needed it. I didn't hate it, but it at least sort of brought it back home at the end. Because otherwise, I think it would have been left a little too open-ended.

All right. Yeah, that's fair enough. I'll send a video to you guys. It breaks down a whole bunch. Yeah. Go movie, though. Anyway. Yeah.

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And if you were lucky enough to get one, right? Yeah, if you were lucky enough to get one. What we were doing on E Society, I was like, I want it, do I need it? No, I just want it. Right. I said if somebody just messages us or whatever and just say the word,

words, pull the trigger, I'll get it. And I'll add it to my Jason collection because just talking to Theo about it. I mean, Theo, he buys everything. And I,

yeah, not the one. I mean, but as far as my Jason collection, I try to grab what I can afford. I mean, there's some stuff out there that's amazing, but I'm not about to drop $500 on it.

Well, sure. But this hundred bucks, that's not bad. So I'm still debating on it. But if any of you listeners out there, Maybe reach out to them or post it on the Facebook page. Just try pull the trigger.

Nez, pull the trigger. Interactive. I'll get it. So, I mean, we just dropped our East's idea episode the other day. And I, well, one of my buddies texted me. And I was like, dude, shut up. I mean, I want someone that I don't know to say pull the trigger. Right.

Makes sense. I was not to say, I'm about the message you. I know. I was too. I was grabbing my phone. Somebody I don't know. And then you get the satisfaction of watching Nez open the, the, the, the, Yeah, I'll get it and I'll make a video and open it and thank whoever told me.

An unboxing video outstanding. Yes, there you go. I'll name whoever said pull the trigger. So this is the first one that I read, which I probably won't get like a thousand pull the triggers. But whatever the first one is I read, I'll take that and I'll pull the trigger and buy it because, yeah, do I need it? No, but he'll look awesome right next to my other Jason. And this is the Jason from part three. Of course.

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We play around with I Am Zoso and the brand new Witchboard remake. So we'll start with I Am Zoso from 2012. I had never heard of this movie. I assume many of you have not. On Halloween night, five teens decided to liven up their party with some innocent fun by summoning the spirits. director and writer director and writer is Scott

Delala Delia I don't know sure also known for Chopper Town The Centers I don't know Chopper Town that one

The house featured in this movie was found by the filmmakers on the internet Moreover that creepy man so was mine moreover the owner

the house cooked meals for the cast and crew throughout the shooting of the so this was an Airbnb is what you're trying to tell me okay they cooked meals throughout the film the filming for the casting crew okay well that's nice

there's that nice side story uh and as have you seen I am Zoso Oh man, this movie was terrible. I was just waiting for something to happen. Yeah. I mean, there was some good buildup. I liked what was going on.

I loved the beginning. But then the movie started and it just went, had you seen this one before? No, I never even heard of it. Okay. So I've heard of it. I was like, I'm not cool. This sounds interesting.

It read good. But it was like just a lot of nothing. There was a lot of buildup for no payoff. I mean, I liked when they were conjuring or talking to the spirits and Zozo and whoever the hell it was. Yeah. I liked all that. But then it's going to be bad shit crazy when that pays off, right?

Yeah, you were building up to something. And then I'm going to go take a shower for 10 minutes. And I'm like, what's happening? I was waiting for something to happen that never happened. I just, I was bored at this one. I was watching it. Not War of the Worlds, huh? Flipping on my phone.

No, I at least paid attention to War of the Worlds. This one, it only kept my attention when they were playing with the board and everything. Yeah. Building up to something. But it got nothing. I was just like, uh, didn't need to be as long as it was. It could have been an hour and got its point across. But, yeah, I was disappointing with this one.

All right. said it, man. Don't fuck with the Jesus. Lance, what do you think? 999 times out of a thousand Brian's scheduling is fucking spot on.

Like Brian is the best scheduler in the world as far as picking two films that like go perfectly together or like a topic that we just talked about or sometimes Brian will even pick two movies that are about a topic we talk about two weeks later like out of the blue. It's like he's almost

got a six cents. But that one thousandth time out of 99, Brian, you slip, Potna. What are you talking about? Both these movies have to do Ouija boards. Dude. They are similar.

They can't all be winners, though. I don't even, I don't know where to begin. What was this? From the beginning, Lance. The beginning is they filmed some kids in a house and it was leading up to something and then the ending was it they're still trying to lead up to something and then you've got

a corny guy show up with like i don't know if he's like a school professor or if he was a i mean obviously they were in an asylum at the end right see i didn't get that part either i'm so lost yeah he drove away and it said like a hospital for the insane or something in front of the the hospital that she was in but i think he didn't really explain how she got there Yeah, no, I totally wasn't. Okay, good. I'm glad I'm not on an island here. I'm glad I'm not the only one.

I mean, I'm at a loss. I mean, I mean, it was on TV. So maybe there was a little something more to this movie, huh? Maybe. I was. I didn't, I didn't see it. Huh. It was weird.

Maybe they were all crazy. It probably read better as like a book or something, but it's just, I'm expecting them to show something. I mean... Yeah. They didn't even show any tits. I didn't need that. I mean, I wanted to see...

Calm down, Lance. I wanted to see something scary. I mean, it was building up to be something creepy. And then nothing. I mean... Yeah. I don't know what was happening. What was...

All kidding aside, what was that little scene at the beginning? We're like, it didn't show the kids, but it showed their hands on the board. and then one of them started going into convulsions, right? And then it cut away. And it was a totally different story. Got the zozo in her, I guess. Yeah, I thought it was like the possession from like the time before or something. Probably, yeah, probably.

I bet. I was second there, I thought we were watching the end of the movie in the beginning. Yeah, I thought that too. Do you guys want to reach out and we can interview the director? You all think that's a good idea? No. I don't want to tell. You made that one time?

I don't want to have to fly. That was fucking compared to that. That was jobs compared to this movie. I know. Like, okay, so during watching this movie,

I kind of had that thought. I was like, you know what, man, it's like a student project or something. I'm giving these people too much shit. But it wasn't. But then,

well, and you get stuff like Texas Chainsdale Masker. which was a student project and was fucking awesome and was super low budget. And what was the one with the the one that we interviewed that it was like a horror comedy and there was like a flying underwear. Hanky Panky.

Hanky Panky. Yeah, the tie. Great movie. Right. Yeah, we had a lot of fun with that. Super low budget. Uh-huh. Yeah.

You can literally see the strings. It was so bad, right? but it was great it worked you got to play into that I don't like to tell people that there's stuff as garbage I mean but yeah but you'll make an exception

I did know I did tell Adam Marcus to his face how much I hated Jason goes to hell good for you man good for you I was like I didn't when am I ever going to get this chance to be in front of the director of one of the movies

movies that's like top of the list on I hate it I just I fucking hate that movie man I don't know but I had I told him I said look dude I did I hated this movie and he was like come on man let me have it let me have it

yeah he was loving you're not the first you're not the first person that say this to me come on yeah and you won't be the last niz yeah that's what he said let me let me hear it I've heard it all and he was fucking totally cool about it all Of course. That's cool.

Well, he made a lot of money off of that movie. We had, like, the director of this super, like, low-budget. That was the movie on. I didn't realize he was on the chat, and I was like, what in the fuck is this garbage that I'm watching? They're like, the dude with the pink hair. But this guy's good, right? And I'm like, no, it's fucking terrible.

The guy with the pink hair is particularly bad, and it was him. Yeah. And then we had him on the show and they left early because they got drunk, but whatever. Right. So was I. This movie, I mean, it just, I just, I did not care for anyone. I started off caring about everyone. I figured.

Which person? Any of them. I mean, I didn't know what it was at first. I was like, okay. I don't even remember what happened in this movie to be on. Ouija board. Well, I mean, it's not hard to explain. I mean.

Just conjure some spirit. and all hell's going to go break loose. Yeah. But it did that, yeah. I mean, it was building up to it. But then, you know what? Let's put it away now. And then we'll go do nothing and then come back and do it again.

Build it up again. Okay, let's stop and let's go and do nothing. Nothing happened, right? Exactly. Then it was over. It almost felt like a practical joke. You know what I mean? Like when you see those videos, look at this relaxing countryside.

And then a face pops and it. you know at the end of it it's like this was a setup wasn't it this wasn't real i mean this was like a joke well it was based on people true story oh i saw that too at the beginning and i don't think i believe that i don't know i mean i mean i'll give it to the people that made it and everyone that acted i mean they did the best no no they didn't they fucked it they did they did what they worse acting for sure. And that one you were talking about. Yep. It wasn't like trauma level

acting, but it was, yeah. I give it to them. They did it. They made a phone and they got it out there and hey, we're talking about it. So good, man. There you go. So let's move on to witch board. I just didn't. I was like, where are you guys going with this?

You didn't do anything. I mean, throw some, I mean, you start off with the possession or whatever the hell that was in the very beginning, which is probably my favorite That was interesting. Yeah. And then I thought, I was like,

okay, cool, we're going to get that. And we didn't. Yeah, they never went back to that, right? Uh-uh. So I was just like, okay. I mean, let's see what happens. The next thing you know, it's over. Yeah, I tuned out the last half of this movie completely.

Imagine that. Brian. Brian. Okay, let me explain why I picked this movie. I looked up some reviews on it. I'm not going to name these names. I'm not going to put people's names out there, but one of the rules reviews said, I am Zoso, the coolest movie I've seen about a Ouija board.

Wow. Next one, a visual, stunning art house picture. Oh, okay. The next one, I am Zosu, a good little supernatural thriller. Where'd you read these? I'm reading them off, well, they got them on the Wikipedia page. The mother of the director, probably. Let me read a couple from IMDB.

I am Zillow. Very disappointed. The second one. These are just the titles. Okay. The next one. No, this wasn't even so-so. I am horribly disappointed.

This wasn't even so-so. I like that guy. I'm writing a review as this is so bad. A waste of time. Zoso, boringly awful. Awful. A stinker of non-film by a director. who obviously hates his audience.

I didn't get... These are the reviews that I read were from horror websites. Okay. I mean, it's cool. Because this is one of those... So it was a joke. We got took. Right?

No, but I think this was sort of... I'm not kidding. In between... Like, okay, it was a bad movie, but it obviously was super low budget. Like, this is like if... Well, Lance... If we decided to make a movie.

Lance hates low-budget independent horror movies. Yeah. Depends on the movie. But they did have... What was the last independent horror movie you liked? We're waiting, Lance. We're waiting. The one with the walking.

You like the one with the walking. Yeah, but that wasn't super low budget. You're talking about it, in a violent nature? Oh, hell of good. Yeah, I love that one. Brian was wrong on that one. Brian was wrong on that one. Brian is never wrong.

You're wronging that one, brother. I actually like that one. I'll go film that movie right now outside in the woods. Yeah, but I understand where we're coming from, for sure. All right, let me get to my review. Okay, all right. This movie was boring. It was bad.

It made no sense. I didn't understand nothing that was going on in this movie. The gathering of the friends, I didn't understand why they were all in costumes. We had like two mad hatters. It was Halloween. Was it Halloween? Yeah.

They literally said it's Halloween. Yeah. But nothing they did at the cabin was Halloween. That's true. Well, they had a pumpkin in the background somewhere. Besides them dressing up like two mad hatters. Were there two magicians? Is that what?

I thought it was two mad hatters, a pirate winch, and a French guy and a beret. Maybe it was a mad hatter and a magician. Oh, I thought the French guy was a sailor. with a stupid beret. He said, I'm a French sailor. And he said an American accent, right? French sailor, gotcha.

Then we also get a tutorial on how to clean a fish, followed by a cooking montage. Yeah, that was uncalled for. And I felt like, I have a theory glance. Okay.

This movie was not to showcase the actors or the story. It was to showcase the music. Because they would have these montages or these long scenes where they play the music with no dialogue at all. Yep, the entire song,

right? Good point. That makes sense. So the musician, instead of just doing like audio, you know, YouTube stuff or whatever, they're actually highlighting or spotlighting the music and that makes a lot of fucking sense. It's a musical.

We didn't realize it. Well, it wasn't a musical, unfortunately. The guy that made the movie made the music and when he puts it on his resume, he's like, I know what you think about the movie, but what do you think about the music in this? That was right, right. I'm Googling it right now.

The whole cooking montage is just music. There's no dialogue at all. Yes. Yeah, the last 10 minutes of the movie was music, right? Yeah. Original motion picture soundtrack composed by B.C. Smith.

So there you go. they have a whole album for i am zozo so i think brian is absolutely onto something here i am zoso original motion picture soundtrack i would have to say he did a good job because that's the only thing that i remembered from the movie was the music i you figured it out dude that's that's exactly what it is i'm going to listen to the whole soundtrack tonight i think i'm sure you are no i'm not hate the scene where they were doing the Ouija board thing. Like, that drew me saying. That's

the one thing that grabbed my attention. But it felt like we were watching a home movie of somebody's vacation at a cabin, but nothing happens. That's, yeah. That's kind of the whole movie. That's the mortal sin, right? Is the fact that nothing happens.

Had they had low budget and bad acting and all that, we could overlook that if it went bad shit crazy at the end, right? And I would have I would have gave this movie a little bit more credit because I told my daughter watched this one with me. I told it this is going to be one of those movies where this is all this buildup

and then it's just going to calm down, Lance. There's going to be all this buildup until the last 10 minutes and then we're going to get something amazing. And then I actually scared her. When the movie ended in the credits roll, I told the movie to go fuck itself. Because when the credits start wrong, I was like, is that it? Yeah, I know.

All right. Not a great one. Nez, what's your score? There was some things I did like it. The thing I liked the most is the way they shot it. I think it was like 8 million. Yeah, kind of grainy. I love that aspect.

Oh, it was filmed on Super 8. I didn't know. I did get that. Okay. I like that. Lost in the Woods camcorder. That was cool. They found it.

I had to go back while we were talking to see, listen. I was like, was there music? I don't even remember. So I kind of flashed forward back and forth to the ending, which was cool. The scene when they were all outside dancing and everything, that guitar playing was cool. And every time there was sinister music in the background when they were messing with the Ouija board. So I'll give that another point. The music.

Okay. I'll give it a four. I mean, I won't watch it again. Jeez. Generous, huh? I'll give it a four. I mean, just for production value, they made a movie,

the score was cool. I love the way they shot it. I thought that was cool. And that's about it. As far as story and everything else, I, nah, so,

yeah, four, I'm being generous four. All right. Generous four, Lance. Yeah, this movie is kind of like

when you go to the hardware store or Sherwin-Will-Williams or whatever, and you're going to paint the kitchen, right? And they've got all those little pieces of paper that you take home with you and set it up against your wall, right? Like a sample, right? A paint color sample. That's

all this movie was. It was just like a fucking sample of something. No beginning, no end and no story. But, you know, like Nez said, they put it up there in 8mm. And like Brian said, they had music in it. So it does

get a, not a zero, but a 0.5. 0.5. We don't like that color, but it's a sample. I'm going to go, I'll give it a one. Generous. For the, yeah, for the Ouija board scene. I didn't think the acting was actually really terrible.

I think it was just really poorly shot in a bad story, and it just didn't keep my attention at all. And part of that may be that I didn't give it enough of a chance, but it didn't grab my attention enough for me to warrant that. So I got shit going on. Yeah. Brian? I was right there with you, Phil, because I think there's a good chance you and me blacked out at the same moment in the movie.

But I do agree with what Nez said about the way it looked, the grainy footage, finding out that they shot it on Super A. And I was like, that's kind of cool. And I will have to say the. music is memorable in the movie. It sticks out. So I have to go a little bit higher than you feel and give it a two. That's fair. I was almost going to give it a two.

I just couldn't justify it. Couldn't think of why, huh? All right. So you can skip that one. On to witchboard. 2025. A cursed witchboard awakens dark forces, dragging a young couple into a deadly game of

possession and deception. Director is Chuck Russell, also known for Nightmare in Elm Street, three dream warriors, the mask, and also the Scorpion King. What about the blob? Oh, in the blob.

Oh, that was good. The one in the 80s? Scorpion King was good, too. It's fun. Scorpion King is not good. But you have to put that in there so that you know, hey man this guy's done some really good stuff and he also did the Scorpion King

writers are Chuck Russell with Greg McKay and Kevin Tenney the first teaser for the film debuted at San Diego Comic Con in 2023 during the Bold Voices in Horror panel what does that even mean

bold voices of horror I don't know about that was that in any of the convention that you went to or anything? I was there, but I didn't see this. Yeah, because it's some stupid generic name that doesn't mean anything. I think like Chuck Russell and a bunch of other big names. We're speaking at a panel.

Oh, the big guys. I'm going to go last on this one. You guys go ahead. All right. Lance? You're the whole reason we built this show. Okay. Oh, you're asking me on my opinion of the movie?

Yeah, that's what we do. Okay. why we're here okay so I went into this really worried because it was kind of hard to find

this when I had to go to a theater close to where AJ works which is you know half an hour from here and there was all like one showing time

right per day and I was like oh man it looks terrible the it's witch board is it's gonna try

to remake which board and hit the same beats and be the same exact movie but it's going to be like

a hip younger crowd now, or I thought somebody from the original might show up and hand the torch off to someone and that was going to be terrible. So I was not exactly thrilled or excited to go see this movie. And I get into the movie theater in about 10 minutes in. Brian, you know, you always got me at New Orleans, period. And you always got me, you know, when there's a movie that's got a lot of food and cooking in it because that's another thing I love. So you kind of had me there a little bit, but I was like,

all right, it's in New Orleans, but is it going to be good? And when you met that one particular character at that house and the hamming it up, the way this dude was, this movie was

fucking fun. I really enjoyed this. I had a hell of a good time. And all the CGI fire at the NB. Dan, because it added to the 90s cheesiness feel of this movie. And I fucking loved every minute. As Nez would say, it was glorious. And it doesn't help that it had some incredibly good-looking young actresses in it.

And I thought the guys were cool. There was one that was really, really funny, the kid that was in Ozark. And other than that, I mean, I thought the kills were okay. they started out kind of tame. They got a little bit better. But all that 90s cheesiness at the end fucking wrapped me up, man. And I came out just feeling very happy than I saw this movie. So really enjoyed it.

Okay. Brian, what do you think? So I have five theaters in town from three different companies. So I was like, this movie's got to be at one of those theaters. I'm sad to say it was not at any of those theaters. Oh, man, of course not. So I did not watch it. Yeah, man, I had the same issue.

It'll be out there soon enough. It'll be out there soon enough. Yeah, and I figured it would be. Like, I might have been able to make it, but to like see the witchboard break I was like, yeah, I'm driving an hour and a half. You weren't that excited. It's not like going to see Spinal Tap 2, right? Yeah. but I did rewatch the

original in preparation. Okay. Just to give it another chance because, you know, Nez comes on and says it's hell of good and I think we all crapped all over it. But it was also one of the first movies that we reviewed, if I remember right. Right. So, rewatching it,

we've watched some shit movies lately. This is not one of them. Okay. Good way to put it. it's uh it was a lot it was a lot more fun uh than i remembered it being on the second watch um i didn't hate it and tony kattang so there you go yeah i was gonna watch it again but i was like nah yeah i don't know if it's hell of good but it wasn't hella bad all right it's hell of good i got my signed copy right here

Sign copy. I got my copy that I've never taken out of the plastic. You don't have to. Well, of all the movies to watch, this is probably not the one. But we'll see you on the new one. Ness, do you see the new one? I did see it. I had no idea it was even going to be playing in any of the theaters in the Reno's Parks area.

It was in one theater. They only had two showings. and I made it to one. And it was just me in there for like about 10 minutes. Then a couple came in. They hung out for like maybe 20 minutes and then they left. I don't know what they were doing. Sounds like my experience.

I think they were just in there trying to have some alone time. They were done. They were there. They were got. They got, they got. Yeah, I think so because I was sitting in the very back. They were walking up giggling and then they went, whoops, they saw me, then they went and sat back in.

They were like, witchboard. Nobody's going to buy a ticket to this one. They were doing something. I didn't look over the wall to see. But do what you got to do if you need a long time. Probably not in a movie theater, guys. Because when I got there, this movie was actually free. I didn't know I had points built up.

because when I went there and was getting by my ticket they went oh you get a free movie I said well this is the one so I only paid for popcorn and drink which was 18 bucks it's expensive

they get you on the snacks I'm glad I was by myself I always always just ask for the courtesy cup Nez and that's it see the problem is they all serve beer now and so they charge me 12 bucks for beer and I'm like

Fuck you. I'll take two. Yep. Exactly. I'll still buy your expensive popcorn. I'll still buy your $10 large drink. I'll still do that. So I got my stuff.

I went and sat down. Was not expecting much for this movie. The trailer, I was like, okay, I don't know who any of these people are. Well, as the movie was going, I did realize that Jamie Campbell-Bauer, who played out. Alexander

something, whatever, the little rich kid in it with the glasses. He was in Stranger Things. He was a Okay, Monster thing in the last one. Oh, okay.

Yeah, him. So I was okay, I know this kid, and I don't know anyone else, but. The main girl was in Annabel comes home. She was the babysitter.

Oh, okay. I don't remember. I know she looked familiar now. Is that the third one? Yeah. Yeah, see, I don't even remember that. The only one I remember.

is the second one because that one was hell of good. It was scary. It was great. But the main kid in this, Aaron Dominguez, he played Christian. He just looked like a young Philip on the screen. Young Philip. What does that say about Philip? If he's the young one.

This, I mean, as far as the cast, I thought everybody in it was good. the girl Brooke, Mel Johnson. Oh man, I thought she was beautiful. Yeah. I liked her character. The main girl, it, it, it is a remake kind of sort of, but not really. Yeah. There's no, there's no malfader.

It is the, you play this, don't play it alone. They kind of do that thing with the party. The rules. Of course, she does, she gets sucked into it and then all hell breaks loose. I was like, okay, they kind of did that, but the story went a little different. So I was like, okay, good. It is the same movie, and if Kevin Tennany is involved in this right on, they didn't remake his movie.

So I was like, all right. So, but once they, it wasn't the, the typical Ouija board. It was like a, look, it's reminded me of like a cheese, cheese cutting wood board. Cheese, cheese board. Yeah, like that reminded me of one of those. It was like round or something. Or a dartboard, right? I like the design of it.

I thought that little centerpiece was cool that you pull out in the finger and you hold it above. There was no planchette. There was none of that. It was just she held the string that had like a wood, a skeleton finger. And then you ask you questions and moves all over and let you know what's happening. So I thought that was cool. I like the change up they did with that. There was a little more backstory about.

the board, which I loved. Yeah. Time jumps a little bit. Yeah, with the witches. I thought that was cool. Because in the original one, we're told about Malfader, but that's about it. We don't see any of his adventures or anything. We actually get to see about where this board came from, who had it first, and why it's doing what it's doing. So it was, okay, I like all that.

Yeah. Who was a runtime? Okay, it was almost two hours. Yeah, it was longer than I thought it was going to be. But I thought it went by pretty quickly. Yeah, it kept my attention. There wasn't a time where I was looking at my phone or bored or trying to get a peek at what this couple was doing in front of me. I mean, I was all into the movie.

I thought it was really good. I loved all the acting and everything. They jump scares maybe one or two, not a lot. The ending was cool. I liked the way it ended. And then, I mean, when it was said and done, I really enjoyed this movie. Yeah, I was expecting.

I wasn't expecting much. Because I, I mean, if you see which were two and three, two is cool, three trash. But this one, I was just like, okay, let me just see it so we can talk about it. Because like I said, I love the original one. So, but I was not mad. I'm definitely by this when it comes out.

And I'm mad. that it's only showing in one theater. I think they could have popped this up somewhere else at least two theaters and it had more than just two showings. Then that couple could have gotten it on then, Nez. Well, if they were to the next showing, I don't even think anybody was in there for that one. I mean, if I didn't show up, nobody would have been there,

maybe just that couple. Maybe they picked a movie like, no one's in here, let's go in here. Yep, yeah. And then you were like, Gotcha, bitch. But overall, I really enjoyed this film. I thought it was good. It kept my attention.

And I like the changes that they did to it. I'm glad it just wasn't a straight remake. And as far as Chuck Russell, yeah, he's made a lot of good movies that I enjoy. Dream Warriors being my favorite film. Oh, that's the best, man. Out of the nightmare films. I love that film.

The Mask, it was a lot. all right. Scorpion King, no. Eraser with Arnold. Oh, Eraser also. Oh, he did that. I love that movie. Yeah, the blob.

Yeah, he knows how to pace a movie. For sure. The blob from 88? That was that. Yeah, that was a classic. True. But, I mean, I was fine with this film.

I thought it was really good. I enjoyed it. And like I said, I wasn't expecting much because I'm like, well, how many times are we going to tell this same story? I mean, the sequels, weren't the greatest. But what they did in it, the changes they did, the story was there.

And I thought once the dread started with the two main characters, with the couple, I thought that was good. So, but yeah, I thought this was an awesome film. I loved what was going on in. As far as the visuals dealing with the witches and the present time, I thought all that was cool. Yeah, some of the CGI I could have did without, but I mean. That kind of added to the charm. But for me, that added to the charm.

And I don't see that very much with CGI Fire. But it was so over the top, NZ, at that end scene there. I was loving it. But like you said, Malfader wasn't in it. But that one guy at the Eyes Wide Shut house, wouldn't you say he was kind of a stand-in for that character, as it turned out?

I was thinking it was going to be, but it wasn't. He was more of the... Yeah, but he had, well, I guess we'll talk about it in spoilers. Yeah, I mean, I was leaning more towards that. I was waiting for them to, when they revealed his name. But it wasn't. It was somebody totally different. And I was like, okay.

But it fit the situation. It fit their story on what they were trying to do here. But yeah, I thought this movie was awesome. What do you give it? We both enjoyed it. I give it a strong 7.5. So not in top 10, I don't think, because it's been a pretty good year. but it'll be talked about again.

I enjoyed it a lot. I'm ready to see it again. I hope it comes out on streaming really soon so you guys can check it out because it was just fun, dude. It took me back to like late 80s, early 90s type movies. Better than I would have expected from a witchboard remake. Yeah, it was not what I was expecting at all.

Thought it was going to be terrible and really enjoyed it. Yeah, I wasn't expecting much. I was like, just, just entertain me. And if you're going to scare me, scare me. And I was, I was good with it. I liked what was happening. I mean, the original, of course, hands down. That's, that's king.

I love that film. But this one, I thought the actors that they got in it to, to move the story along was good. And like I said, the Alexander character, the little rich guy, little party boy, rich dude. Right. He fit his role perfectly. He looked like that. They all did. Uppity bitch asshole dude that would do this type of thing.

So I loved his character and how he looked his hairstyle and his glasses. You can see him on the poster. I thought he, I thought, funny how all those rich folks know about the demonic shit, huh? Yeah. And the eyes and the eyes white chep parties. Oh, yeah.

I thought he was going to be one of the main dudes in it. I mean, he's in it. But it was, it was the main. people in the film were the Emily and Christian the couple and I liked what was going on in it and I love their story of

yeah and open open up a restaurant and her backstory her backstory made it where people had trouble believing her and trusting her yeah she said things were going on so it was a good movie all in all a good movie do you give it a 10 no I'll give it a 9 I did enjoy it I don't let I don't

go to these restaurants with these fancy little art pieces of food? Yeah, they called it crayfish instead of crawfish. That's not right. I don't know. I haven't had that one time when I was with you. I mean, not in New Orleans. Not in Norlands. I don't like those type of restaurants.

I mean, when I go to a restaurant, I want to leave full. I don't want to leave a restaurant and have to go to McDonald's because I'm still hungry. I mean, I don't, I mean, if you do go to these type of restaurants, cool, because yeah, they were making, they were like little pieces of art. I mean, I thought, well, just it got nothing to do with the story, but what they were doing, well, I kind of did. Well, we'll get to spoilers. Yeah, nine. All right. Okay, spoilers.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucker. Spoiler Alert. You've been fucking warned. Not much, right? I mean, should we even spoil it with Brian and Phillip on here? Yeah, there's got to see it. It's a fun movie. There's nothing to spoil though, right?

No, it's just... It's nothing new. Yeah, it's just play by play. I mean, yeah, this girl falls into it. She gets sucked in, all hell breaks loose, and then they try to stop it. Unlike the first movie. Yeah, I mean, that's A demon by accident Gotcha What this one Well, there's a witch involved too

Yeah, what this one had was that That witch aspect of it And then showing it And the weirdness of the What was his name Christian? The weirdness of what he, No, Alexander Of what he was doing

And his yeah, his eyes wide shut party And the three blonde witches That were hot. Yeah, that was kind of cool Because they looked to me like they were triplets. Did they look that way to you? They did a good job with the hair and makeup and everything. I mean, yeah, they, they, they were just beautiful young women, but what, what was going on this when, especially when, uh, that scene in the restaurant,

when, uh, everybody was eating those mushrooms. Oh, the mushrooms. Philip would love this scene, huh? All help. They go into what you've talked about, Philip, with the, the, the, the, the red cap mushrooms. They just hit like a big comp trip. Oh, dude, like the whole restaurant did and everybody got nuts. Oh, that's crazy. I thought it was going to turn into an orgy, but it turned into like a blood orgy. Everybody was killing each other.

And it was showing it in present day, and it was like also showing it back in the 1600s. Yeah, when it happened the first time. Because the witch, she put her mind into the other girl's mind and made her mind go into the witch's mind right when she was about to be burned at the steak. So she fucked her over big time, but, you know, you know how these movies go. Well, and because like the whole Salem Witch trials, like, there's a theory that it could have just been ergot. They talked about that. Yeah. Yeah, they talked about that in the movie.

Yeah. So there's a lot of psychedelic stuff that happens with, you know, religion and weird shit. Yeah. Fancy mushrooms, Danz. Yeah. Well, yeah, because that's what they were doing because that's what they were looking for when they were out in the world. woods. I mean, I... Foraging. I was like, really, you guys just gonna just...

Well, you must know what you're looking for. Right. Yeah, I forgot about that, that switching. Because, yeah, she switched, the witch switched places with the main girl. What the hell was her name? Oh, okay. So she, like, actually went back to the 16 hundreds or whatever. Yeah, so Emily went back to... Oh, gotcha.

Way back in the day and the witch came into the present time. Yeah. Okay. And then she did a spell on the... mushrooms and that's what made everyone go crazy. But how the witch saw it, she was like, she seemed that her character seemed like she was like, okay, she was just doing her thing, her witchery and everybody,

nobody was bothering her. But of course, in those times when they accuse you of which they want to stone you and burn you at the same. Yeah. And it's always the religious leader, right? Yeah, that's who I thought Malfader was, but it wasn't. Right. It wasn't.

So that part was kind of cheesy, the special effects of, when he changed. Those two on the nose. Anyway, I'm nitpicking. But when she switched, I thought that was cool. Like,

she went into modern day and Emily went all the way back there. And Emily was like, what the fuck? Where am I? What's going on? It was very original, especially the mushrooms.

I just liked how they did that. And like you said, yeah, when everything was going crazy in the restaurant, the witch, she was seeing all the people that were,

that stoned her and was cheering when she went when they when they captured her spitting on her when she was at the steak yeah so she was seeing all the revenge going crazy but then the audience sees the people that were in the restaurant going on nuts ooh that one part was pretty creepy when that girl after she was eating the mushrooms and then the young black gentleman the waiter came up yeah and she grabbed his yeah she grabbed his dick and started rubbing on his ass and her date was like, what the fuck you do? Yeah. Well, they were all on shrooms.

So, like, their emotions were getting the better of them, basically. Yeah. Shrooms were Molly. Yeah. Well, it was a special kind of shroom. It wasn't, like, just the regular silo-simon. But there wasn't anything really to spoil in this. It was just, like, just try to stop it and then save her, and then that was it.

But, I mean, I didn't get scared or anything, except for that very, last scene at the end, which I won't say, but that part made me jump. I wasn't ready for it. It was cool, though, man. Like I said, it was like a late 80s, early 90s vibe. Because it was like it was over, then it

said, witchboard. And then I just assumed, I just assumed the credits were going to start rolling. The after credit scene, don't stop at the witchboard, guys. But it didn't even go to credits. It just went witchboard. Yeah, that's true. I stood up, and then it kept going. Right.

for about another minute and then then the credit card roll it was just to make you look dumb it was cool maybe get up too soon but overall again I thought this was a good film I enjoyed it I'll buy it when it comes out same here I'll definitely watch it again because I loved what they were doing in here kind of the story of the original but then they added all this extra story and extra visuals that that's what I liked about it all right now so what do you and Brian have coming up on wrestling. Now that you got your internet back. Are you going to be able to get wrestling with the ESPN drama?

I don't know. I haven't tried yet. We'll see. I got to put out, we reported the first half of SummerSlam and then everything went to hell. So as soon as I put that out, you'll probably get this before that. Put that out. Then we've got to do night two and then we got to do Triplemania, which was amazing. Triplemania? Shout out to Micromat. I got some issues with that whole thing, but I mean, listen to the horror or the wrestling returns and we'll talk about it.

Then we have, what's a Scott Adkin movie called? Oh, God. Name it. There's a hundred. What was it? Avengment. That one. Avengment.

For action. And then above the rim for stream. Okay. I need to rewatch again because I watched it a while ago. Yeah, that's what we got coming. And as far as East Society, we do have a new episode up right now.

Episode number 348. So go check that out. We talk about Alien Earth, the first two episodes, and then the movies. There you go, Philip. I know what you did last summer, weapons. Oh, God, you lost me at that.

Freaky or Frickier. and Clown in the Cornfield. Okay. That's a lot. Those are the four films that I saw. If you did like the first Freaky Friday movie, not the original, the one with Lindsay and Academy Award winner, Jamie Lee. You see her social media thing,

promoting the movie with her titty's all out? That's how she was in a movie. She's wearing a super low-cut shirt. Jamie Lee Curtis? That will check it out? That's how she looked at Cleavage is out there. Yeah, she dressed that way in the movie.

Well, it fit her character. You're going to spend that much money on it. Jamie Lee's character switched with Lindsay's Lowhan. No, Lindsay's stepdaughter. What? Or soon-to-be stepdaughter. Lindsay is going to get married.

So four people switched. Lindsay and Jamie, and then the two younger ones. so Lindsay and Jamie Lee do shine through the whole movie, but they switched. Lindsay switched with her daughter, and Jamie switched with Lindsay's daughter, stepdaughter.

Lindsay's, well, soon to be stepdaughter. So that's why she was like, why she didn't want to dress all old looking, so she dressed all sexy. That's why Jamie Lee was wearing that. And so they had this like mother daughter moment while they were both young in the same age. Yeah. So,

gosh. Yeah. It was funny. I mean, it wasn't as good as the first one, but it was still good. If you,

if you liked that first one they did, go see that one because it was hell of funny. I want to go see it again. I like that one. Yeah, we'll all check it out. Sounds fun, you know.

Yeah, that's all we got. I got a bunch of Magnus podcasts coming. I got all kinds of guests lined up. When I went to ComicCon, I met all kinds of people. So,

even the polka-down. Man. I wish Made a lot of connections So I'm going to get a lot of interviews And then I just met with these other Young up-and-comers So they're also going to be on the show

And everything else Mike and I are going out We just went to Oklahoma To show his film first voice And everyone loved it there So we're going shoving off to Arizona Next month To have another screening

So hopefully some res. I don't know. I don't know the tribe in Arizona or where exactly where it is at some big casino hotel thing. But how I don't know it's going to be hell hot. It's like a billion degrees in Arizona.

Yeah. And that's in the shade. About dumb of summer, man. I'm going to stay inside. It's about to start cooling down a little. When I was in Oklahoma, shout out to everyone there, they treated us like kings. But it was

hot and humid. For those of you that live in humid areas, I mean, especially Brother Phil and Brother Lance, I don't know how you guys do it. Is it humid up there, right? Is it humid up there? No. I live in the dry heat of California. Oh, man, I don't know how you guys do in that humidity. I was just, I didn't even, I went outside for a few minutes.

Just take some pictures and I said, I got to stay inside of the A.C. Came inside soaking wet, huh? Oh, yeah, it's like I ran 10 miles. Yeah, dude. I'm not the one. I happen to take a change of clothes with me to work. Of course. I know.

What you do for work and you're climbing around? Hell, hell, no. I'll give it to you. Man, you're the All-Star. Yeah, that's all we got going on over on Skaterness Podcast Network. Oh, and for you Big Brother fans, I hate that. I hate that I watch that stupid show,

but Theo makes me watch it and I hate this season everyone bugs me. Go listen to our latest episode of Big Brother over on our Spotify feed so yeah. I know it was still on. All right. Season 27. Ouch.

We want to thank you all for listening to another episode of the horror returns. Next week it is not going to be the toxic Avenger yet, Brian. Brian had to point out. You guys can't go to the theater, but you won't be watching it next week.

It's not even around here. The 30th, right? The 30th, Brian? Is that correct? August 30th? The 28th, 29th, something like that. Missed it by that much. We would have been recording the Toxic Avenger before the day it came out.

So that was my fault on the schedule. Not at all, man. What are we going to do next week? it's going to be another, is it really that bad? Yep. Rawhead Rex, 1986 is Rawhead Rex, and 2005's cursed. All right. Well, we'll find out if it's really that bad.

Either one of those are. Tell you about Raw Head Rex. All right. On that note, Philip, until the whore returns again, good night.