The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #31: The Best & The Worst Of 2016 (Re-upload)

Episode Date: June 21, 2021

Join us for a trip down memory lane to relive the highlights and lowlights of 2016. Thanks for listening!

James victims, for those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify, go. Welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers in the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Greetings, listeners, you have found the horror returns. And tonight will not be like any other night, so we won't do our regular intro.

Although I will warn you, we still may use the traditional four-letter words, especially when we're discussing the worst of the worst, because tonight is our first annual, best of, worst of 2016. I think we've all been looking forward to this one, guys. What about the two of you? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. And by May used four letter words, he means we definitely will.

All right. Well, with that being said, Brian, this is kind of your baby, man. So you're the ringleader here, man. Let us walk us through this thing, dude. Okay, I think it's more fitting to get to the shittiest movies of the year and get those out of the way. So, yeah, we're going to start off with our top five worst movies of 2016, and I will kick it off with my dishonorable mentions. My first one is clown. That movie really disappointed me.

But it did not disappoint me to the point. my list. There was a, there was a, probably more redeeming qualities to keep it off that list. Okay. Yeah, I was kind of surprised about how much y'all dogged on that one. It was, I mean, it definitely wasn't good. I don't know if I put it on my worst movies of the year list. All right. Fair enough. Moving on to my next one, 31. 31. Oh, I haven't even seen that one yet. Yeah. Okay, I won't spoil it. I will just continue to say what I've, always said, Rob Zami

makes a good trailer, pulls me in, and then I'm disappointed. It's campy, but it was fun. I like that one. There's some good performances from certain people in there. There's also somebody that, without any spoilers, but I'm sure you guys

know what I'm talking about. Somebody should be left out of his movies. Oh, Sherry Moon. Yes. Okay. My next one is... I can live with that. Yeah, my next one is holidays.

Oh, I didn't think about that one. Oh, yeah, no, I never saw it. Yeah, it was rough, man. Especially Kevin Smith's part. Yeah, I think the only one I liked was Valentine's Day. Right. But, yeah, just having, you know, liked only one, you know, I guess it kept it off the list

because my worst list is I hated all those movies I got two more real quick Siren I was disappointed in Siren I was completely disappointed there was parts in the movie that I wish I got more of and didn't

It's in that one It is the The full movie version of the From VHS the chick, the demon chick. I didn't even know that came out. Yeah, it came out, I believe, a month or two ago. Pretty recent then.

Yeah. And my last one is Night of Something Strange. Oh, no. Yeah. I had high hopes for this one. Right. I've heard it on a lot of people's best of this. I completely hated this movie.

I think it tried to be gross to be gross. right, which I'm cool with. I've seen, I like a lot of movies that have gross shit in it, but this one was just, it was bad. I didn't care about anybody. The acting was bad. Nothing was funny in this movie to me. Right.

I don't think I laugh one time. And you watch a lot of really bad movies. Yes, I do. This is the definitive list right here. But with that being said, I'm going to move into my number five. My number five is the, boy. Oh, okay.

I heard some pretty bad. I heard some mixed reviews, but mostly bad. Yeah. I can't remember the actress's name. She plays Maggie on the Walking Dead. Yeah, that's that's how I know. Sarah Wayne Callies, right? That's the one who played Rick's wife.

Yeah. I know who you're talking about. The real pretty British actress. Yes. Yeah. Nothing happened in this movie. Yeah, you're right. Nothing happened in this movie at all.

And you quit. feel like I've seen it before. You have. The premise really seemed familiar. Yeah. Like I said, nothing happened. You figured out kind of what the big twist was going to be. At least I did.

I kind of figured out probably halfway through the movie. Right. Yeah. And I just really hate horror movies where, you know, not all horror movies, you have to have something happening all the time. But this one, like. when I seriously mean like I was bored. Yeah.

All those little super slow burn, you know, things, very, very small thing happens and builds up and takes forever to happen. Right. Yeah. There's a lot of those and it gets all. And the buildup wasn't even like suspenseful. It was just. Yeah. Like it was as suspenseful as it probably should have been.

Yeah. So that is my number five is the boy. All right. who's next? One of you guys? I guess I'll go. My number five worst is actually not even a horror movie.

Well, wait. Before you do that, you have any dishonorable mentions that like kind of almost made it in? You know, not that I can come up with off the top of my head. Okay.

Except maybe the boy, like now that you're talking about it, I did see that one. I didn't put it on the list because I didn't think it was that terrible. But, yeah, I mean, it definitely wasn't good. It's another one of those. But yeah, my number five on the list was, I hate putting a whole lot of negativity out there. So it's kind of hard for me to find my five worst.

Sure. But number five, I'm going to say Zoolander, too. Oh, come on, man. he was so terrible definitely did not hold up Zoolander 2 man I like it basically why couldn't have they had just stopped it

at Zoolander 1 huh? Yeah and they put a whole bunch of hype behind it and when it came out it was just it was it was awful it was kind of between that and the new Ghostbusters except I kind of like the new Ghostbusters I thought it was funnier than a lot of people

gave it credit for I would agree I would agree with you on that one good choice man all right well i uh i have a couple of dishonorable mentions i've got two of them here that didn't quite make my list um but this first one i would put it more in the category of um it might not have even been on here if it had been even just a little bit better but way overhyped for me from two or three years ago when they first mentioned that this was going to happen at one of the comic cons but for a

This honorable mention for me is Batman v. Superman. I thought it was just really, really crowded. They tried to get way too many characters in it. They tried to make Superman into some kind of a, basically a jackass. And then what do they do? They kill them at the end, you know? It just didn't do it for me. Didn't do it for me.

And then that little Martha scene that everybody rails about, that is kind of dumb. You know, so I just think it was pulling. Wait, your mom's name is Martha? I know a lot of people like to give shit to Zach Snyder, but I've really enjoyed a lot of his films. And I like the new Superman movie, everything except when he let his dad die.

I thought that was bullshit. But this one just to me was just a piece of shit, just cramming way too much into one movie. And instead of making one good movie, I think they were just trying to make it a Justice League, you know, 1.0 or something. Yeah, they were trying to like kick. started, I think. It falls

in the really mediocre movies to me. I think so. They're just trying, what I think is a mistake, they're trying to catch up with Marvel as fast as they can. And I don't think you need that. Just put good movies out. That's it.

And which also, I said it before, I think Warner Brothers needs to back up and just let D.C. handle these movies? That would be nice. It'd be refreshing to see that. C.W. has got it right. all the TV shows on the CW are doing really well. Yeah, I think because more so the right people are handling it.

And I just think Warner Brothers, they don't know what they're doing with these DC properties. And I didn't hate Batman v. Superman. I liked it, but I left the theater disappointed. I felt like they tried to cram too many storylines from the comics into one movie. Right. so yeah and Batman with a gun I mean come on guys if you've read the comic books

from back in the day you know that's the one thing Batman absolutely fucking loads is guns it just piss me off my other dishonorable mention is a little movie called Independence Day resurgence I almost put that one on my list

I have not seen this that should have been my honorable mention had I thought about it I would have said it because yeah that was bad Well, there you go. You can add that to your, you can make that your dishonorable, dishonorable. Yeah. Yeah, you're not, you're not missing much, Brian.

If you've seen the first one, you've seen all you need to know. Okay. This one starts off stupid and ends even almost brain dead. It just gets worse and worse as it goes and less believable. You start out with, it's like, I don't know, however many years in the future from when the first film came out. And I don't know, I guess they couldn't get Will Smith to be in it. So they came up with some cheesy way saying he died, testing one of the aliens' planes. And then so, you know, like humans are all using their technology now.

And believe me, it gets worse from there. So you can skip that one. Okay. I can't even remember it. My number, I tried to forget it. My number five, and this is going great because we've all got different picks so far, which is good. but a little movie directed by one of my favorite director's sons. He just didn't quite live up to dad's hype.

Hopefully he'll get better. But film directed by Luke Scott called Morgan is my number five. I saw this plot twist if you even want to call it a plot twist, if it even earns that title coming about a third of the way through the movie. I fucking hated this movie. I didn't hate it, but I can definitely understand it being on the bottom. Yeah, it earned its number five spot for sure, guys, for me. Okay, it's back on me. My number four,

Abattoir. Oh, no. I... The one that went from a five to a one. Yeah, it's still thinking about it. I don't know what was going on really. the lead actor the one thing in the beginning I liked it was kind of a retro

feel they kind of had a throwback kind of noir kind of thing going on but the lead actor as the movie went on I just hated him and I thought he was horrible um unsur from Sons of Anarchies in the movie

and I never quite got what the whole motivation of the house was yeah and it didn't make a whole lot of sense yeah it was kind of a dull movie and i've seen people's reviews on iTunes talking about this is an instant classic and i'm like i don't know what movie you guys were watching i think they they were trying to go for instant classic because they had that uh they want to have that one bad guy character and everybody wants to have that that bad guy

character that's really memorable you know yeah they they had some they have some they have They had a good idea for the movie. The whole, basically this giant ghost house of all these different rooms from other houses where murders were committed. I thought that was a good idea and I wanted to see where it went. But it just was executed poorly and that falls into my number four. Right. I don't blame you at all. Well, my number four.

my number four is going to be I think the darkness which is probably a little higher on the list for you guys that was our that was our Kevin Bacon movie right with the they were out in the Grand Canyon or something and he brought home some ancient Indian burial ground bullshit

and it was yeah it was terrible I don't even remember the entire plot line And it was just, it was, it was not good. There wasn't a whole lot of. And it also, and it shall forever hold the distinction of being the very first film that the horror returns ever reviewed, guys. I know. That might have been a mistake. Well, we, we got to review Poulter guys, so.

Ah, that's right. Yeah, the difference is night, night and day there, huh? Definitely doesn't hold the candle to that. It's even got a terrible title. The darkness. How many movies have been labeled the Dartmouth, you know? Right. Nothing about it is memorable except that, oh, yeah, Kevin Bacon was in that, right?

Yep, that's pretty much it. All right, well, I don't think anyone can argue with your pick there. Is it down to me now? Yes, it is. Number four, this is one that Brian has already mentioned. Clown, who's my number four? of the worst of the worst of 2016. And I think the thing that got me on this was kind of similar with the Batman v. Superman.

Not that it was such a horrible, horrible, unwatchable movie. Just that it was such a fucking disappointment compared to what I was expecting, you know? I know, because it looked like it was going to be really good, right? Absolutely, yeah. And then it came out cheesy. Yep, looks can be deceiving, can't they? But yeah, I think we've said, enough about that one.

Okay, back to me. My number three movie is Phantasm Ravenger. Oh, no. Saw that one coming. I... This movie pissed me off. If this is a so-called

Angus Grim send-off movie, wrong. They did him wrong. The special effects, the CGI was probably the worst. I've seen in years. And that's saying something. The piece together,

I guess, stuff they've filmed throughout the years was really confusing. It didn't make any sense at all. Yeah. It was stupid. For this to be the final movie, they kind of really left it open, which just left it open at the end,

which just kind of added to the confusion of the movie. And, you know, when we reviewed this one and the first one, it's just a complete drop off from you go from classic to probably one of the worst movies I've ever seen. High school AV project? Yes. Well, nowadays, I think maybe a high school kid can make a better movie.

It would have to have a better storyline at least. Oh, man. So Fantasim Ravanger is my number three. All right, well, that's going on my dishonor. Dishonour will mention for sure. I totally forgot to bring that one up. I just didn't want to disrespect Angus Scrim, but I guess the filmmakers did that for us, huh? Yeah, they did. So that was your number three? Is that right?

Yes. Oh, that's me now. Okay. My number three is going to be incarnate. Ah, okay. I imagine y'all expected that a little higher on my list. but it's a pretty terrible movie. It was a, what's that dude's name?

Aaron Eckhart. Oh, yes. Yeah, Aaron Eckhart. And I expected something good from him, but the whole movie was just way overacted, overdramatic. It was the only redeeming quality about it was the chick from the Vatican. I was just going to, you took the words right out of my mouth, man. You're stealing my thunder, man. My bad.

All right. It's all good. Yeah, it was bad. It was bad. I think we're in agreement on that one. All right. So my number three is a little independent film that a lot of people have told me, oh, yeah, it's a lot of fun to watch, and you're going to love the catchphrases.

It's just so funny, but this thing was a fucking piece of shit. And it's called The Greasy Strangler. Have you guys heard of this? I seen the trailer and I had no desire whatsoever to watch it. Oh, man, I got hooked into it. I had a couple of assholes on other podcasts tell me that it was worth watching. And like a fucking idiot, I took the plunge into the grease. And I'm still burning myself.

Hard to tell with a horror movie. Some of them are really good. Some of them are really bad. So terrible. They were just doing their best to make a trauma movie. And they just didn't have any of the magic. and the fun of trauma. It was just like everybody that was in it

was just kind of like plotting through their parts and I mean, they had these horribly horribly untalented. It just almost felt like they were just reading from cue cards or something. It was that bad. And the special effects, I mean, you know, it was supposed to be comedy.

You know, it's a comedy slash horror or whatever, but Jesus Christ, guys, I mean, come on. Put something better than this shit together. This is horrible. Don't walk away from the greasy strangler guys. If you see them coming, run. Yeah, campy and cheesy can be fun if it's done right, but it's way harder to do right than it looks like.

You know what I mean? There's a lot of those movies down there that are awful. No doubt, no doubt. All right. My number two, we've already spoke about it, incarnate. one of the worst movies with one of the hottest chicks. Yeah, this was really close to being my number one until I really thought about the other movie.

Right. Yeah, incarnate was, I don't know, sometimes Blumhouse really pisses me off. It's like they put any, and I think where they kind of hook you is they always seem to get a decent semi-big actor in the lead role. Yeah, sure. That's what I'm saying. I thought this was going to be bigger than it was. Right.

And, yeah, it was just disappointing. And this fucking kid from Gotham, he drives me crazy. I can't stand him. He's going to have to earn a place in our 2016 Hall of Shame, I think. Yeah, definitely. Oh, because he's in the darkness, too, right? Oh my gosh Oh yeah

He's in two terrible Horro movies this year And what kind of worries me He Since he's in all these Blum house He might have like some kind of contract with him So we might be seeing him

More No Maybe we'll see him die in the next movie Something I mean But yeah Incarnate It was not good

Well I've got some potential good news for you Brian. Not to interrupt, but I'm looking at his IMDB page. And the only thing he's slated to continue showing up in is Gotham. So maybe they learned their lesson with this punk. Yeah, maybe. But for all we know, they could be updated tomorrow. He's got probably like three Blum house pictures coming out. They had a change in the Gotham too.

Yeah. But incarnate, my number two. Yeah, and the shame is, sometimes. sometimes Blumhouse puts out some pretty good stuff. Did you guys see that movie? Yeah. That was really good, man. Like I said, you just got to, sometimes with Blumhouse, you just got to take your chances,

because you can get something that's really awesome, or you can get incarnate. Well, as our friend, the Black Saint from horror news radio would say, you just got Blummed. Well, my... number two is going to be another one that ventures out of the horror genre. I'm going to

say gods of Egypt. I tried to watch it like three times and could not finish that stupid movie. Come on, man. That was kind of cheesy fun, you got to admit. Was it that bad? I couldn't finish it.

I could not finish watching it. And it's been a long time since I've been able to say that about a movie. And I mean, the special effects were god-awful. Right. It was a stinker to me. I thought it's terrible.

It's on cable and every time I come across it, I'm like, should I watch it? And then I just end up just scrolling on through. Yeah. Well, and I remember you saying that you kind of liked it when you watched it. So it's kind of hard for me to put this on the list, but I thought it was terrible. I couldn't watch it. All right. Well, fair enough.

I mean, I'd put it kind of toward the middle of the middle of the pack for me. Like, nothing special. but, you know, I had some fun watching the cheesiness of it, at least. But that's why we all have our own opinion. It definitely had some cheese. Well, my number two is a movie that we really don't need to talk about anymore. Incarnate. There you go.

It's on everybody's list. Full circle. Yep, incarnate's probably one of the, and it was, I was with you, like you, Brian, it was a struggle between this one and my number one. But at least incarnate tried to do something. It had a few, you know, decent scenes in it. And it had a really, really hot Vatican chick, as you've said, Philip. So those things are looking at okay.

I really like the idea that how he was doing these, basically, these exorcisms. It's just, I hated his line that he's not an exorcist. He's a, what was he? Yeah. He was evicting them. Yeah. Right. And yet he does it with a crucifix. Yeah, I like the idea, but then when he came with that line, I was just like, oh my gosh.

Terrible. Yeah, that one had a lot of cheese, too. Oh. All right. Cheesy. Okay. Back to me. My number one, I'm pretty sure you guys can guess it, because I haven't brought it up yet, the darkness.

Oh, boy. Yeah, it's all it coming. A movie about nothing, literally. Exactly. Yeah, for real. and the thing that drove me so crazy in this movie is the darkness I'm doing air quotations

yeah I can see it was supposed to bring the worst out of out of people and these people are already kind of horrible yeah I like I was kind of

just letting you remind me of the movie because I sort of forgot about it. But maybe I blocked it out of my memory. In other words, you think maybe the darkness showed up, saw these assholes turned around and said, well, nothing I can do here. Yeah, and other than the girl getting bit by the dog, nothing happened. And then when you finally get to see the darkness, it was kind of like a, what was it, like a black stain on the wall or something? Not much.

Yeah. And they ripped that off out of poltergeist, man. Yeah. It was very anti-climactic. The whole movie was just forced. Yeah. And again, a young Bruce Wayne shows up in this movie and I don't know. He's supposed to be autistic in the movie.

And at times he doesn't seem like he's autistic. Oh, yeah. Kevin Bacon phones in a performance. performance. Right. Yeah. I don't know. My number one worst movie of 2016 is The Darkness.

All right. Good call. I guess it's me. I'm going to say my number one, Brian, you already mentioned this one. It's Phantasm Ravager. Oh, no. Yeah. There was not a whole lot of redeeming qualities about this.

It's hard to put it as number one because, of the people that are in the movie and it has a lot of cool trivia that comes along with it and things like that, like a really good backstory in history. But the movie was so bad. It was so bad. Like, man, even if you like the Fantasms series,

this one sucks. It's not good at all. Well, my number one won't come as a surprise to anyone. We've talked about it quite a bit, too, and that's also the darkness. The darkness. Yeah, the darkness. The movie where literally nothing happens,

not even at the very end. So, you guys ready to move on? Have we covered enough of this shit? Yeah. The method you can say about the darkness. The darkness enough, yeah. Yeah, let's move on to our number one TV show of the year. Yes, all right.

Okay, question. Yes. Number one TV show, like new TV show or TV show that's been around? Your favorite show of 2016. Okay. Because I have a couple of different answers for that one. Okay. I'll just get into mind real quick.

My favorite number one TV show was Stranger Things. I like the whole 80s throwback. Yes, I like the whole 80s throwback. you know, there was a lot of references to other movies. One thing you don't really get is a good child actors, and there was a whole bunch of them in this movie. Yeah, they were all really good. And the return of Winona Ryder.

I haven't seen her in a while, and I thought she was really great in this. Yeah, I think that she just naturally plays bat shit crazy really well. Yeah, and we had an Edward Furlong look-alike playing her oldest son, he was really good in it and I'm really really excited for season two yeah me too

and that is my number one of the year that's a great pick man yeah no kidding I actually that's why I asked that question because if it was new series then Stranger Things was going to be my answer as it is though I gotta go walking dead

I knew it it's my favorite show I love that show. It's the only show that I watch live. Right. And that and football. Yeah, well, you pretty much have to watch The Walking Dead Live, dude, or you get spoiled the next morning. Or hell, an hour after the show, you get spoiled, you know?

Yeah, that's true. And I love that they, I know the ratings have been down, but I love that they brought in, they brought in Negan. And I think that this season has been really kick-ass. It's kept me on the edge of my feet. time and I can't wait until it comes back. So what's your, where do you compare it with Fear the Walking Dead? Oh, way, way, way above and beyond Fear the Walking Dead. Okay.

I'll watch Fear the Walking Dead, but it's not even close to one of my favorite shows. Yeah, I mean, there were a lot of really good, really good shows this year. You know, this was a tough one, you know? It was a tough one, yeah. Just come up with one. I could probably come up with more favorite TV shows than movies. Yeah, this year, you could be right about that, man. But, I mean, like you said, you got The Walking Dead, and I really enjoyed that.

Pretty much every episode, despite what any of the fucking haters say, I really enjoyed Fear of the Walking Dead. I enjoyed Stranger Things. You know, I enjoyed Fargo. Fargo was a really good, really good show. Oh, Fargo was good. Was that in 2006? It was 2016, right?

I think it was early, yeah. Okay, Game of Thrones was awesome. Game of Thrones. Of course. That was going to be my honorable mention, man. Possibly the best season. But my favorite TV show of 2016 was a, it's a really overlooked show that a lot of people I just don't hear talking about it.

And I'm kind of surprised because anybody who, you know, who likes stuff that's really far out there. there and trying to figure out how something, what's really happening and likes watching lots of different characters. See, I'm a sucker for a big ensemble cast because I like to see a story go

from, you know, one character to another character to another, and you get just enough episodes where you can get to know and kind of love all those characters and you find the ones that you find most, you know, likable, and you like to follow their storylines, but then it's fun to go over to another one, and I just like the mind

fuckery of this TV show, but it's, it's also an HBO show like Walking Dead or I'm sorry like Game of Thrones. If you guys check this one out, it's called The Leftovers. I have not heard a lot of good things about it. I'm telling you, it gets a lot of hate, man. And a lot of people, it either gets, it's very polarizing. People either love it or they hate it. But it seems like it's a very underwatched show.

And I'm just surprised more people aren't watching it. I didn't even realize it was still on. I watched the first season. I think their next season is the last one. Yeah, and see, that's another thing I like about it. They're going to wrap it up. God willing, you know, Damon Lindelof does not have the best history

of wrapping up storylines in a satisfactory way. Look at Lost, for an example. But I got my fingers crossed, man. I'm counting my rosary beads on this one that, you know, three seasons he's going to be able to wrap this thing up nice and neat. It's going to be a good continuous story. I have faith. That's how much I'm loving the show.

Yeah, I watched the first season and felt like there was a lot of questions that they just kind of, I mean, they just kept like leaving more questions on the table and never really answering any of them. Right. I assume that they've probably remedied that situation from now, but I haven't seen anything past the first season. Well, I love the first season, and I thought the second season just blew it away. They moved from New York down to Texas. and it had this little town that they all went to and migrated there and all the new characters and the cast that they introduced and their backstories.

And they did wrap up a whole bunch of the storylines from the first season, which gives me hope. And in this third season, they're not going to leave a whole lot open. I mean, you want to have a few open questions just for the mystery of it. But, you know, I'm hoping that the big storylines they tie up. I'm hopeful. But, yeah, I want to go back to watch it now. Yeah, and it's been, like I said, it's been.

a huge year of TV, so for me to rate that as my number one, saying a lot, guys. Yeah, a quick question. Do you guys have a show you were disappointed with this year? Because I can honestly say, I don't know if any of you guys ever watched that, Banshee.

Nah, never got into that, man. Never got into it. Love that show. Completely hated the whole last season. I just felt like they, they were they were ending the show and it was only an eight episode final season and I felt like they just didn't know where to go how to wrap up any of the stories right how to end any of

the characters and it they had a horrible like serial killer storyline going on that had nothing to do with anything what and yeah it was it was really disappointing especially how much grew to love the show, you know, it had never seen the show when it initially came out. You know, always heard it over the guys at the, over at the binge cast always talked about it. Right. And so I gave it a try.

Love the show. And so I probably followed my most disappointing shows of 2016. Okay. Yeah, I can't think of one that I was really overly disappointed with, you know. I liked Ash versus the Evil Dead. we didn't even mention that one, you know? Oh, yeah, that was a good one. Another great season.

Salem. Salem was a good show. Yeah, and this is a shame that it's ending. Yeah, I mean, I can't think of anything that really left me in the lurch this year, guys. I mean, really. Yeah, me neither. I'm hard-pressed. There's still a bunch of out there that I need to watch.

Yeah, there is a lot of TV to watch. For sure. Okay, I guess we can get. to our top movies of the year. All right. I have a lot of honorable mentions, so I'm just kind of going to breeze through them real quickly. All right, cool.

The accountant. I love that movie. That movie really surprised me. I didn't expect what I got out of it. Yeah. And I thought Ben Affleck did a phenomenal job in it. The Shallows. Yes.

That made it a lot of people's awards. movie list. Really? Nah, come on. In a time with the shark movies we get, I thought this was above and beyond a lot of those. I thought so, too. Yeah.

You guys are exactly right. And then these just really miss my top five. I really had a hard time with my top five. The Witch. Oh, that was a good one. Ten Cloverfield Lane. Yep, that was a good one. Arrival.

And Captain America Civil War, it probably if we weren't, I don't know, maybe if we made a top 10 list, it probably would have got in there. But I kept my top five more to, you know, what we talk about on our show. Okay. Yeah. But I really, really love Captain America Civil War, you know, with Black Panther and Spider-Man. Right. So with that being said, I'm going to move on to my number. five, The Conjuring

Two. Nice. Continues off as the first one did. I really love the Warrens, all the stories. They have so many of these cases that can be turned into movies. And I thought everybody did a

good job. Acting wise, I thought the nun was creepy, the demon nun. Oh, yeah. Big time. Which, uh, that is, that scene where she was in the painting. Oh, my God. That is, uh, that is the next spinoff movie from The Conjuring is the demon nun.

Nice. Oh, so that's still a go then. Yes. All right. And, uh, yeah. And, uh, and, uh, Vera Formiga, I don't know. She is just sexy to me, amazing. And, uh, I thought, uh, like I said, everybody did a great job.

And, uh, I'm really interested to see where they go on with the third. one. So that is my number five. Good good pick. Can't argue with you on that one man. Nope. Not in the least. Not in the least. I got a couple of honorable mentions. Captain America's Civil War is actually one of them. Yes. Because that was a pretty incredible movie. I don't think I liked it as much as a lot of people

did, but I thought it was still really good. Star Trek Beyond is a... Oh my gosh. I totally forgot about that movie. Forgot it, huh? Yeah. Yeah, I really, really loved that one. It came out really awesome. And I've kind of really liked all of them, but this was above and beyond, and I thought it was a pretty kick-ass.

My number five movie is going to be a rival. All right, nice. Nice. Aliens. That's why. There you go. It was cool. It was a realistic, it was a realistic.

interpretation of what might actually happen if we made contact with aliens. Like Independence Day, but without a lot of explosions. No, shit. It was nicely paired. I really liked both films. We talked about that particular week because we mentioned that one, and we also covered close encounters. So that was a pretty cool week.

Yeah, and those were two kind of similar movies, man. Like in how much I liked them and kind of the style and slow burn of it. Oh, yeah. Yeah, and there's probably one of my. favorite Amy Adams performances. Oh, definitely. Well, she's up for a Golden Globes, and early Oscar talk is definitely that she's going to be on the list for Best Actress, so I wouldn't be too surprised to see that

one happen, guys. Cool. She may not win it, but I'm pretty sure she's going to be on there. Yeah, she definitely deserves a nomination, so. Awesome. All right. Well, my honorable mentions, I have three of them this year, and one of them, I, I Philip you already mentioned, and Brian, you two actually, which is Star Trek Beyond.

And like I said, that whole ensemble cast thing and, you know, going around to different scenes and seeing how different characters that you know and love from the years interact with each other when they're in, you know, new situations that they were never actually put in in the original series. I thought that was pretty cool. I think most of the actors playing the characters are spot on. I think that Captain Kirk is actually finally coming in to. his own. I saw the actor and I actually thought, hey, that's, that's actually

Kirk, you know, for the first time in this film. Spock has nailed it, and Dr. McCoy, Carl Urban, has obviously nailed that part from the very beginning. And I mean, who can, you know, who can say anything bad about Scotty, right?

Right. And Urura, she just has to look the way she looks, and I'm happy with that. But, yeah, yeah, definitely definitely an honorable mention for all of us, it sounds like the jungle book I will give that

great movie great movie and just what's great the voice the voice talent was phenomenal but just based on the this is how you do CGI the right way

yeah absolutely man I found it to be just seamless that part where what's the bears name Baloo or yeah Baloo when he was floating in the in the river Man, I couldn't tell that that wasn't an actual bear floating in the river, man.

That was done extremely well. Yeah, John Favro did a great job on this movie. And I'm kind of looking for, he's doing the Lion King next. Right. Which I'm a little bit leery on because there's no actual humans in the Lion King. Right. Yeah, so it's going to be completely animated, I take it. no live action

live action just how he did the jungle book just like this one huh yeah well live action in the jungle book is you know I mean it was still computer animated

yeah I know what you mean animals and stuff yeah right but um we'll see if he did the job he did on jungle book I'm sure it's gonna be great movie

oh yeah man Favreau's never let me down I cannot think of a single film. I didn't even mind cowboys and aliens. I was just a lot of it of. It was kind of cool. I like that movie. It was kind of cool, man. Yeah, I really

love the one he did before the jungle book. Chef. Oh, Chef was that was fun. That year, man. Yes. Yeah, that was a good movie. Fantastic, yeah. Now, I'll tell you what, the kid who played the son in that, that's the total

polar opposite of the Gotham kid. Because he's actually a kid that you can get behind and like, and he's not a complete irritant. Like the guy. The kid from the jungle book blows him out of the water. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, he was good, too.

The kid's acting with nothing around him. Okay, so I think we're going to have to agree. A lot of it comes down to Favreau's direction then. Yes. Yep. All right, well, I have one other honorable mention, and that was Miss Peregrine's home for peculiar children. Ah.

And I found this film, to be a lot darker than I was expecting, and I like that element a lot. So, particular of that final battle scene with the skeletons and everything, I thought that was really cool. So the honorable mentions are out of the way, and my number five is one we just reviewed last week, the train to Busan. Nice. I love the fast zombies. I thought the special effects were phenomenal. The storyline was great.

There was very little about this movie not to like. yeah i totally agree this was uh definitely i probably wouldn't if uh kevin really wasn't recommending the movie as much as he was i probably wouldn't have seen it as quick as i have right but i'm sure glad i did yeah me too i i may have to go back and watch it again because i yeah i didn't it's it's on every top ten list that i look at and uh i just didn't get it man Yeah, give it another try, man. It's not really that long. I'll give it another try, though. Yeah. Yeah.

It moves. It wasn't hard to watch. Yeah. Right. Yeah, I know the Blu-ray's coming on the 17th, so you might get a dubbed English instead of having to read subtitles. Hmm. Possibly, I'm not sure, though. Oh, might have to check that out then.

Okay. That could be good or bad. Yeah, I believe it's back on me. my number four is a movie, Lance, I think you've seen recently, the autopsy of Jane Doe. Oh, yeah, it was a good movie. It lost me a little bit at the end, but what if I just watched it, and I thought the same thing.

I actually liked the ending. Yeah. And I thought Brian Cox and Emil Hirsch was, they did a phenomenal job. I do not know the actress's name, but even though she's just laying there, I kind of felt like she did a great job too. Creeple. Yes, definitely.

And a different take on, I can't even, I don't want to say, because it might be in spoiler territories and it's a fairly new movie, but. Oh, but I see what you're saying. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, definitely take on that type of movie. Yeah. Okay.

And I like it. I like the idea. Yeah, I'm glad I got it in. That's my number four autopsy of Jane Doe. Cool. Yeah, I'm glad I got that one in, too, man. It just didn't quite make my list. Yeah, I'm kind of feeling the same way with that one.

My number four, on the other hand, we just watched. It's going to be passengers. Wow. Yeah, dude, I really liked this movie. I thought Chris Pratt really just manhandled the whole movie because it was based on the strength of his performance. Right. I mean, everybody else was pretty good, too, but Chris Bratt was awesome.

Yeah, he is definitely coming into his own as an actor. Yeah. And, you know, I love that. It was science fiction to a T. I really enjoyed it. I thought it was a great movie. All right? Well, we're on number four, right?

Yes, sir. So my number four was. was Rogue One, a Star Wars story. Okay. Yeah, I really love this movie. The beginning was a little bit slow getting going, but I thought that final third of the film, when you think of a franchise being called Star Wars,

I mean, this is what I expect to see. You know, this was just a full-out, full-out war movie. Action-packed. Action-packed to a T, man. And who in the hell can deny that that was far-in-away Darth Vader's best performance in any Star Wars movie ever. Yeah, that was awesome. I won't say too much about it because the movie's still new.

But, yeah, the scene with Darth Vader is so kick-ass. Fair enough. Well, everybody knows he's in it, so I won't say any more than that. But, yeah, Rogue One firmly gets a spot at my number four. Okay. I kind of cheated on my number three. I have two entries. I just couldn't.

pick between the two. There are two movies that this year have been kind of argued whether they're horror or not. Okay. And that's don't breathe and Green Room. Oh, yeah, Green Room. Fucking love. Love both these movies. I love both of these movies.

I still haven't seen Greener. You have to. Oh, dude, you're missing out, man. It is brutal, absolutely brutal. And Brian, have you seen that other film that he directed? It also has a color in the title It's blue. Blue Ruined.

Yeah, Blue Ruined. Have you seen that? Great movie. This guy's onto something, man. Yeah. Yeah, I could not. They kind of come similar to me the whole, you know, are they horror? Are they not?

Right. And I had a great time watching both movies. I thought everybody was great in it. Except for Don't Breathe. What was this? name money. Oh, money. You're just waiting for that guy to die.

Right. Yeah. Well, he played a great heel. Yeah. But, yeah, not to really, because I got two picks in one slot, so not to get too much into it. I thought they were both great movies, and it's really sad that Anton Yeltson died. He was a phenomenal actor.

Like a horror thriller is probably what I'd call both of them. Yeah, so those I cheated. those are my number three. All right, man. We'll let you get away with that. No problem. Well, my number three, we actually already talked about it. It's the Conjuring 2.

Yes. This is probably the best horror movie I've seen in a very, very, very long time. As far as just being scary as shit, this is one that did it for me. Couldn't agree more. great pick man my number three was a movie that I think Brian mentioned in passing it came out really really early in the year

The Witch Oh yes Super creepy man I love the way that they kind of They kind of threw you into the time period there They actually used old English For all the talking which Sometimes you almost kind of like couldn't understand

What the hell they were saying But you kind of got to It took me a minute to get into it I actually find on like a second viewing, you kind of understand it more. Yeah, I imagine. I definitely plan to give it a second viewing and probably a third and a fourth because this was a really great, really great little horror movie. And low budget shows you that you don't need a monster budget to make a good movie. Yeah, and it took me a minute to get into it.

It's definitely a slow burn, but man, it was definitely a kick-ass horror movie. It was tense the whole way through. Yeah, and Black Phillips an asshole. Oh, man. Hey, real quick, have you guys seen the Lego witch set with the Lego Black Phillip? No. Check it out. Google it when you get a minute.

It's hilarious. Okay. It'll be my logo from now on. Okay. Is it back on me? Yep. A movie that was already mentioned came in at my number two, Train to Busan. All right.

Damn. I... I... I... I... Like you mentioned, Lance, I like the fast zombies. Right.

I like the characters in the movie. I did. And there was a lot of emotion in this movie that just kind of got to me. And I thought these performances were great and I really am not looking forward to this American remake.

I think they're going to completely fuck it up. Probably won't even watch it, man. I probably will. because I watch horrible shit. You have to. Yeah, so train to Busan is my number two. Cool. That's a great pick, man.

Yeah, it almost made it higher on my list. Philip didn't sound like it touched yours, man. We're dying to hear what your top two are, man. Yeah, no, that one didn't quite make it. My number two is going to be Rogue One. All right. Yeah, I thought it was a pretty solid story. It was better than I expected it to be, and I liked it better than episode 8.

That's saying a lot, man. Yeah. Well, you mean episode 7, right? The Force Awakens. Yeah, episode 8. We're not quite sure yet. I was going to ask you, how did you get a copy of that? Boy, man, you were one of those fanboys, huh?

The Force. That's how. The Ranch. I'm here so much about episode 8 because Princess Leia just died in all my. Right. Oh, wow. Yeah, that's rough, man. Brian, I don't know if we did a shout out on that one yet or not, but... Yeah, R.I.P. Carrie Fisher and definitely Debbie Reynolds. Very sad story.

Just recently Yeah, just recently buried together. Wow. Funeral was together. So, very sad, especially to learn that her mom's last words was, want to be with Carrie. That kind of just, that sucks. Right. So, not to bring the show down, but, uh, not at all, man.

Yeah, needed to be talking. I think it's your number two. Yeah, my number two, uh, I think you guys have both talked about it, the conjuring two. Yes. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

Yeah. Great movie, lots of scares and great, great performances all around. But the part I love the best was the just the fucking roller coaster ride at the end there, where he almost fell out of the window, and you kept seeing the death in advance and everything, and I just thought that was awesome, dude. That was just a fantastically shot movie. I noticed a lot of the camera.

The camera work was extremely good. Like, you'd notice the camera would go inside the British house, and then it would go around in, like, a single shot, and show, like, different rooms and what was going on in different rooms. And I just thought it was masterfully directed, masterfully filmed, uh, wonderfully written, and a really well-acted movie. There's not enough of the things I can say about The Conjuring, too.

I thought you were going to say your favorite scene was Patrick Wilson singing the Elvis song. That was actually kind of cool, man. I mean, I was, normally I think something like that is super corny, but I don't know, it just kind of fit. You know, it was the levity that the movie needed at that moment, you know? Yeah. Just well done. Well done. Yeah, definitely.

Okay, my number one of 2016 is Rogue One. Wow. Yes. All I can say was watching this movie, I felt like a kid again, watching Star Wars. I got those feelings again. Very old school. Yes, definitely. And this cemented Darth Vader as the baddest man in the galaxy.

This is the Darth Vader. I want to see him. force throwing people around and which which I listen to another podcast one of my favorite podcasts of the league of geeks they kind of brought up a good point

that in Rogue One you got Darth Vader force choking and throwing people but in a new hope you get Darth Vader actually choking people with his hand right so it's kind of a

contrast to what he can do you know. Yeah. Well, but you know, those minor things. A physical hand around your neck may be a little more intimidation.

Yeah, minor things. And I believe someone said, this was Suicide Squad done right. I think you said that, Lance. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Yeah, definitely.

Suicide Squad should have been. I thought, I liked all the characters. I thought we got enough of who they was, except for maybe, I would probably want to wanted more of Forrest Whitaker's character.

Yeah. Yeah. Because I heard the rebels, the start of the cartoon show, the Rebels, Star Wars Rebels, I heard they really get into his character. Oh, okay. Yeah. So, but besides those minor things, you know, Donnie Yen was awesome in this movie. In which I heard a little rumor. We might get more Donnie Yen in the Star Wars universe.

How can we? That's the problem, though. I heard a rumor, possibly in the Han Solo movie. A prequel to the prequel to the prequel of the sequel. Yes. Which I am totally fine with. I really dug his character not being a Jedi, but believing in the Force. Yeah.

And I thought he was great in it. And yeah, like I said, I totally felt like a kid watching Star Wars again. And that falls in my number one spot. Cool. Well, my number one, I'm pretty sure Lance is going to disagree with me. Deadpool. I thought it was the most fun.

Come on, dude. It is my favorite Marvel movie, and that's saying a lot. But I thought it's really big ass. It's even up for a Golden Globe, man. It may get the list for Best Picture in the Oscars, man. Oh, wow. That would be pretty amazing.

I thought it was great. It's just me. It's just me. I enjoyed it. I wouldn't put it. You notice it wasn't on my worst or anything. I just wouldn't put it anywhere near my, you know, top 10 or anything like that. Yeah, yeah.

Well, yeah, man, that was, I thought Ryan Reynolds really kicked ass in that one. It was done right. This was definitely the role he was made for. Oh, yeah. He is Deadpool. Mm-hmm. Well, you're definitely. in the majority, man.

Yeah. So I think we're at the moment we've been waiting for our contest. Winner? Yes. Well, anybody who listens to our show and has heard any of our reviews

on the films and notice that I haven't mentioned this one yet, it shouldn't be a big mystery at this point, but yeah, my number one far and away is going to be a rival. I just love that director. I thought

the actors were perfect. I've heard some talk about well, Jeremy Renner didn't really do anything or he didn't really, you know, emote that well. He's a fucking mathematician. He's a scientist. He's not supposed to emote that well, you know? Yeah, exactly. She's the linguist.

She's more of the touchy-feely type, the liberal arts type. He's just the, you know, the hard science guy. So I thought they played their roles perfectly. And I really love the way that they communicated with aliens and the way that they figured out the language. Yeah, I definitely like the whole motivation, especially the scene.

This is not a spoiler because it was in the trailer. Basically, she's telling the military they need to know the difference between a tool and a weapon. Yes. Yeah. Yes. I really enjoyed that part of the movie. Yeah, that's a good thing to point out. And definitely not to spoil anything, but I thought the way that they ended the film was

was pretty fucking genius. I mean, I did not see that coming. No, I didn't either. And yeah, you're right. I really enjoyed that too. And it kind of makes you think, you know, if you had the opportunity to do things different, would you take it or would you do those things again?

It just kind of makes you think. Yeah, is it worth all the pain to get to the little bit of joy, you know? Yeah. Big questions, man. It was, yeah, that movie, really tugged at my heartstring. I mean, this movie got me. It's one of the very few movies

that, you know, that I would say would be considered kind of a modern masterpiece. I don't know. I think maybe the one film that I guess the only prior film to this one that I enjoyed as much was Children of Men

that came out a few years ago if you guys saw that one. Oh yeah, I remember that one. I mean, that was Clive Owen. Yeah, Clive Owen. I would consider that one a modern masterpiece, and I would give that distinction to this film as well. Great year for movies, guys.

Absolutely. I think it was definitely a great year for horror. Yeah. Did we talk about what we were most looking forward to for the new year? Like a movie and what show? Didn't you want to? Yeah, I think we'll finish off the show with that. Cool.

All right. I guess I'll go, I don't know, it looks like 2017 is just going to be a phenomenal year. Right. As far as horror, I probably am really interested to see where this It remake goes. Oh, shit. I don't know. I kind of have a, you know, the original one, it's not the greatest movie, especially the end. but

yeah just that last half Pennywise was one of my favorite characters as a kid and I always wanted to see this get a remake and I think they're doing it smart by doing splitting this into two movies Oh are they still doing that though? Yeah

Okay Oh that's the way to do And they're kind of changing the era of the kids It's going to be in the 80s Instead of the 60 what was it, the 60s? Getting that, jump it on that

Stranger Things train, huh? Yeah, which one of the kids is actually one of the stars from Stranger Things. I believe, Oh, really? Yeah, the main, not the one that was in the upside down, but the

main one looking for him. Right. I can't remember the boy's name, but he's in it. And a lot of Marvel movies coming out, but one that no one's really talking about that I think is just going to be great as the Thor movie.

Okay. Well, the second one wasn't that great, man. Yeah, this one we're getting the Hulk and Dr. Strange. Okay. In the Thor movies. So I'm really looking forward to that. And TV shows, obviously Game of Thrones coming back. Right.

Oh, yeah, definitely. It's supposed to be the last season, right? I think. I don't know. Were they supposed to be splitting this season into two? Yeah, I'd heard that. I think it's going to be like two eight-episode seasons. Yeah.

All right. So I think you get eight in. Yeah, and then like spring of next year, you'll get the final eight. That's what I... But I have heard... Bill, 16 episodes. I got to wrap it up. Yeah, I have heard a spinoff is a priority for HBO right now.

Yeah. Probably a prequel series. Like a prequel? Sure. Yeah. Yeah, because there's a lot of older stories. stories that he's written like the character egg

who, ah man, I can't think of who they are. I've read the stories. They're all pretty much novelettes. But these are, you know, it kind of shows you

a lot of the older characters when they were really young and I don't know. Somebody's going to call me an idiot and correct me here, but it seems like there would be a lot of material to draw from for sure.

I'm sure there is, yeah. Yeah. That's pretty good list. Yeah, Philip, you got something you're looking forward to? Yeah, I got to say, as far as horror goes, if I'm strictly going horror, I'd say probably the new alien movie. Oh, yes. That's a good one. Yeah.

Because it looks kind of cool. Overall, I'm really looking forward to Logan. I really, really, really want to see this movie. bad. And every preview that's come out for it makes me want to see it even more. Yeah, definitely. They went a completely different direction

with this movie. Yeah. I think this is probably the best Wolverine movie that we can possibly get. I'm sure, yeah. And as great it are. Yeah.

I'm excited about that too. As far as TV shows, I think maybe stranger things coming back. Or the Punisher. That's 2007. Oh, that's right.

Yes. Oh, yeah, buddy. Totally forgot. I got to put that one out there. We are getting three Marvel Netflix shows. That's right. We're getting Iron Fist, the Punisher, and the team up, the defenders. Yeah.

Oh, wow. All right. Hey, don't be surprised if the second season of Jessica Jones comes out next year, because I understand they're already have all the directors. lined up for those episodes. And it's given all female directors. And I'm really excited for the defenders because I want to see they cast a Sigourney Weaver as the villain.

Wow. Oh. Should be a lot of fun, man. Yeah, I'll watch that. Lance, you got anything? Yeah, well, I mean, the big one that I'm looking forward to is obviously one that somehow, I guess, Philip has already gotten a copy of from Skywalker Ranch,

and that would be episode eight. which we don't even know the title of yet. Like it you will. My biggest surprise that I'm looking forward to, which I don't think we have to wait too long to see it, is I am really intrigued by this trailer for a cure for wellness. Oh, yes, Gorbivetsby. Oh, man, this thing has got me thinking that this could either be a train wreck

because of, like I said, I don't like too much else he's directed, or this could just be something where it's just maybe the kind of movie he really has always wanted to do, but the studios have had him do other stuff like the Lone Ranger and shit like that. But I don't know, man, I can almost see this being as kind of like a callback to Clockwork Orange or something. Yeah, it looks great. I'm very happy. Got a lot of buzz.

Yeah, I'm very hopeful. And I'm looking here, it's two hours and 26 minutes, man. This thing's going to be epic and scope. Yeah, I'm looking forward to it, definitely. Yeah, that's it for me for the movies, but if you guys know me, you got to know what TV show I'm looking forward to on CBS All Access, right?

Star Trek. Absolutely. Oh, yeah. Far and away, yeah, far and away. Obviously, I'm looking forward to the final season of the leftovers. I'm looking forward to Game of Thrones, Walking Dead, everything we've talked about. but yeah man star trek back on tv again i'm in hell yeah

i don't care how much they charge for that cbs all access i'm buying it that's fair all right well so i think again we had a great uh a great year guys sure has been fun working with you guys for this uh what seven or so uh months that we've been doing this yep yeah it's uh crazy to say because i Seven months ago, I didn't really think I'd ever be doing this. And I'm really happy to be doing this with you guys. Cool. So what are we planning on for next week, Brian?

I think you're planning on. Is it the Twilight saga or something like that? How dare you? What? It is Underworld. Oh, okay. All right. We are going to be doing the original Underworld movie to coincide.

to coincide with the new release of underworld blood wars. All right. Well, I'm going to have to rewatch that first one, and hope I like it better than I did the first time. Which I'm putting an open invitation to Kevin. I believe I was just listening to his latest show, and I think he just recently bought these on Blu-ray. Oh, yeah?

Oh, nice. Yeah, so. Kevin, you were a great guest if you want to come through and say something about the series, because I'm, of course, I'm going through the whole series before I watched the new one. Of course. We would expect nothing less.

Why not? Yep. But, yeah, we got some interesting things coming for the new year. Cool. More contests. I would definitely like more listener participation. That is one thing I would want to shoot for as a goal for a 2,000

17. Right. So definitely, if anybody has ideas, you know, I've heard people want us to do top 10 list, more horror retrospectives, you know, I'm sure those are going to be on the way soon. All right. If you listen to the show, man, just email us and let us know what you want to hear. Yeah, you people make it happen. So looking forward to another great year of the horror returns.

and I guess on that note, until the horror returns again, Brian. Good night.