The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #311: CAGE RAGE - The Return!: Pig (2021) & The Unbearable Weight Of Massive Talent (2022)

Episode Date: May 9, 2022

This week, Bede Jermyn returns from Super Network to talk some Cage. Cool of the Week includes Doctor Strange in the Muliverse of Madness, Nights End, And Red Dead Redemption 2. Trailers are House of the Dragon and Crimes of the Future. The Podcast Spotlight shines on Shat The Movies. And we get feedback from Matt Wood, Xim Vader, Mike Batchelor, Bede Jermyn, Vincent Pereira, and Tavares Ellis. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= SK8ER Nez Podcast Network: https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel: https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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The horror returns, the greatest show on earth. We have a dancing pig. We have talks of doing a musical, THR musical. We've got feedback with us, so we'll be rolling out the sequel, the unauthorized sequel to the John Travolta flick with moose in it. So it should be a big night. But I'm Lance. Definitely getting sued. I think we already have been fucked with enough.

I don't want to be fucked of it anymore. Having to redo every goddamn fucking episode that we've ever recorded. All right. So tonight, in case you couldn't tell, I've got Brian and Philip here with me. And since I did say B, That must mean.

What, Brian? It's the cage rage, the return. This is third, fourth, fifth? How many times we've done? I think it's the, this has to be the fourth, I think. B, maybe you can tell us. You've never missed it. I believe this is the fourth cage rage episode we've done for the show.

And well deserved, right? Indeed, indeed. Definitely not the last. Exactly. Exactly. Because we got to remember, exactly. We've got to remember, like, Nicholas Cage is playing Dracula in a film that's coming out next year. So that'll be welcome to the next one. It's got a Western coming out, too.

That is true. Are you serious? It will be complete until he plays Superman. Exactly. Technically, he did. He voiced Superman. Oh, that's right. Yes.

Oh, yeah, true. That is very true. Well, all right. It's so. Caged Superman in my life. Well, tonight it's not Superman, Philip. We're going to do, we're going to do Pig. But not that far off.

From last year and also the unbearable weight of massive talent that you can still catch. So we'll do spoiler alerts for that one. But before we get started, Veed, I think you've been on enough times that, you know, we like to start with a little thing called Cool of the Week. Indeed, indeed. And I've got to be honest, I have to be honest. really seen much this week because, you know, I've been busy with work and just life in general, but I did manage to see a few things. And I think this is, the two I'm going to discuss

are ones I think we're all going to be talking about. First up, of course, I did go on opening day to see Dr. Strange in the multiverse of madness. And I'm sure you're the only one of the four of us that have. Yes. But I won't spoil anything because, you know, it's only just come out, so I don't want to, you know, give away any of the things that happened in that movie, but it's a lot of fun. I wouldn't say it's like next level Marvel, like, film, like, you know, like an end game or No Way Home or anything like that, but it's a pretty solid Dr. Strange sequel that has some pretty cool surprises, kind of opens up where, you know, the MCU is definitely going to go over the next couple years, because, you know, it's dealing with the multiverse.

Sorry. And also, like, you know, it's got Sam Raby back in the director's chair after nine years. And I can tell you guys right now, it definitely feels very much like a Sam Ramey film when you watch it. Oh, that was, that was my big question. You could tell it was a Ramey film or not. Oh, yeah. Like, all of his sort of stylistic choices are very prominent throughout the film. And also, he gets away with some pretty surprising.

violent moments throughout it as well. So I'm not going to say it's like full on graphic or anything like that, but it definitely kind of stretches. He definitely stretches how far he can go with the PG-Fodate rating. Okay. So it doesn't retain it's PG-13 then. Oh, yeah, definitely. But yeah, there's a couple of like shocking little moments that even I was caught off by

in terms of like some of the violence of that. So. All right. You don't see Shang Chi rip somebody's heart out and show it to him while it's still beating or anything like that, right? Well, not in this movie. And I guess the other big major thing I watched, because after I went and finished watching Dr. Strange, I came home and watched the last episode of Moon Night. Ah, okay. And that was a pretty salt.

Yeah. Oh, but it didn't mean to interrupt. Brian and Phillip. Are you guys caught up on it? Not yet, no. Okay. Yeah, I haven't seen a single one. This was a solid show then, babe?

I would say it's a pretty solid show. I do think maybe the last episode was a little rush because it's only 45 minutes long. But I feel like it could have been maybe just a little bit better if it was a maybe 10 or 15 minutes longer, but it was still a pretty solid finale for the series. Nice. Nice. Cool.

All right. So you had a pretty good week then. Yeah. Well, it's definitely more marble in terms of this week. Yes, I would say so. But, yeah, and also kind of rewatching one of the films that we're going to be talking about tonight. So that was a lot of fun. I can imagine.

Phil, you want to go? Yeah, I'll piggyback on that because I saw Doctor Strange also. Yes. The new one? Yeah, the new Doctor Strange. No. How'd you manage that? Oh, it is in the theaters here, right?

It's in the theaters, yeah. Oh, my God. Way behind. Pretty solid. A little silly, lots of CGI, which I guess is to be expected. It wasn't as crazy with, like, a whole shit ton of characters as I thought it was going to be.

You know what I mean? Yeah. But. Yeah, they kind of have, like, they're odd cabbie. in the movie, but they only had the... It's not like cameo city throughout the whole movie. Like, they have a certain number of cameos.

Right. Like, in some I did suspect, and others I was actually caught off guard. Can you guys tell us whether there were any more cameos from the book that, as they called it, the Netflix Marvel Universe? Like, did a Power Man or Iron Fish show up or anything like that? I could confirm or deny if any of those characters pop up in the movie. movie. All right. We'll film.

Not new as you guys. You guys not keep it close to the test. Okay. One of the greatest cameos of all time was there. And yes. Fills out the end credit scene.

Bruce Campbell, right? There you go. I mean, it's a sad ravey film. Of course, Bruce Campbell's going to get a period. It's like written in their

lifelong. Yeah, not really a spoiler. It's just a fun moment. And he's only there for a minute. But, you know, nice to see him in the Marvel universe and some pretty good callbacks when he is there. So it was a fun movie. It's not as maybe good as I expected it to be. I don't think it's as good, like, as a solid of a movie as the first one.

But it's definitely worth the watch. And then, yeah, I've seen Moon Night. I was more impressed with the first episode than I was with the whole rest of it. but it was still very much worth watching and very well acted. So, yeah. All right. A lot of Mark your stuff. Amityville, Brian?

Yeah. Amityville Playhouse, aka Amityville Theater. The Amityville. Okay, Amityville. It probably doesn't even matter. They retitled this movie. many times. The Amityville

Best Friends Wedding. It's teenagers get trapped in the theater and it's supposed to be connected to the Amityville, yada, yada,

write your own movie. That's pretty much what it is. Oh, I've got a real question for you, Brian. Hmm. Has there been an Amityville musical?

Ooh. That might be what we need to get on right there. I do like this idea. The list that I have, I have of Amityville movies. There has to be

one with the amount of movies on this list. But if there isn't, there will be. If there isn't, there will be. I mean, they're doing Amityville everything. I ain't watched a lot. I watched the new episode of the baby. Still, still enjoying it. The baby.

Yeah, they're not really giving you a whole lot about the baby. I mean, they're adding new stuff. Like, she calls her friend over and she's trying to explain the situation. But the friend keeps referring to the baby as her baby. And she's like, you know, I don't have, you know, I don't have a baby. And the baby's just staring at the friend. Like, I don't know if it's telling the lady to go along with it or is actually making the lady think that this is her child.

And she's trying to, like, locate where the baby. came from and she's finding out that previous women that's had the baby has also died horrifically. This sounds too fucked up, man. I don't think I'm making it into this one, guys. Sorry. Hey, baby, what you doing out there? Sell a weed. And I caught Shutter original or whatever.

I don't know. They buy movies and just slap shutter on there. The Night's End? You guys heard of this one? The night sin. I haven't heard of that one. Uh-uh. Yeah.

Haven't heard of it. It's about a guy. He's clearly has some issues. I think he's like agoraphobic. He hasn't left a house in a year. He has other issues. He's trying to start a YouTube channel, like giving out advice, but something happens in the background of his home, which makes him get the idea of I'm going to have like a paranormal. normal YouTube channel.

Basically, the more and more he gets into it, the more he probably shouldn't have been looking into things or messing with things. I thought it was a pretty solid movie. It is kind of strange, though. My one gripe is I felt like the effects kind of got worse as the movie went. As the movie progressed? Uh-oh. The night's end.

I'm trying to look it up here. I think it might be just night's end. Oh, like the end of the night, like night's end. Okay. I thought you were saying night send. Like sending it somewhere? Oh, no. And Michael Shannon pops up for some reason.

Really? Yeah, he's like, I'm in then. He's like the ex-wife's new boyfriend, which I guess if you ever wanted a guy to be your ex-wife's boyfriend and to be Michael Shannon, because he's the nicest, most encouraging guy ever. Sure. Sure. Yeah, but he's also super fucking creepy looking. Exactly. Yeah, he is creepy, but he comes off, like, there's even a part in the movie where somebody tells him to stop acting so corny.

And he's like, I can't stop. That's just who I am. Right. But he's like, you know. I love it. I love it. I'm going to watch this, man. Yeah, even though he's like the dating his ex-wife, he's just so like, oh, you're going to make it through your problems.

You're going to find a job. I believe in you. Right. He's just like somebody he just, you can't get mad at it. Like a motivational speaker. Like Tom Cruise and Magnolia, huh? He just needs a little Bluetooth headset to wear, right? And I think.

And I'm going to watch it, dude. You've sold me. You've actually sold me. Yeah, I didn't look it up, but the main guy, he looks familiar. Like I've seen him in a couple things before. All right. Well, you had me at Michael Shannon, so I'm in, no matter what. And I think that's...

said yeah I didn't rewatch copycat with uh Sigourney weaver that's a good one it's a good solid movie solid movie always enjoyed it all right forever so is that the cool of the week or night's sand um we'll go night's in amityville musical nights in yeah amniville not be in cool of the week but i'm looking at the list for a very long time yeah well i mean they should i mean when you have an amityville film that actually literally takes place in outer space. The other next logical step is to do a musical, or I might have to go pitch this,

is like, how about Abedieville in the multiverse of Bathurst? Yeah, all the multiverse Amityvilles, right? Yes. Amityville, Louisiana. Is the Amityville, Louisiana? Amityville, Louisiana. Oh, boy. They go to Bourbon Street and get fucked up,

and Keith David or David Keith probably plays a voodoo priest. Oh, that would be fantastic. That'd be awesome. People'd play movies on the fly again. Or, or that Abneyville down under. There we go. Oh, wow. Yeah, and everything's flipped, right?

That's not a ghost. This is a ghost. It's put a few demons on the Bobby. Oh, man. All right. I didn't have such a great week, guys. I was hoping I would, but I've got a powerful, powerful, not so cool of the week, I'm afraid. Brian, I think you saw this one, choose or die?

Mm-hmm. Netflix? Oh, yeah, I saw that. Everybody else. Everyone subjected themselves to this piece of shit, huh? Yeah. It's not that bad. It's really.

It's really that bad. It's not that good either. It's easy bottom 10 for me this year. I can tell you that. Oh, are we going to do this again this year? This will not be on your bottom 10 by the end of the year. This is your escape room. It will not be there.

I guess, go ahead, Brian. I was going to say, you're not even going to remember this movie. It's quite possible. What I will remember, though, is a video game that I'm playing. Philip, you can say a lot more about this game because you've gotten further in it than I have. I'm only 3% into the game. I've been played for like three or four hours.

Red Dead Redemption 2. Oh, yeah. You're barely in it if you've only been like three hours. I'm still in the snow. We're getting ready to rob the train. Oh, yeah. You're a long way to go, don't I? Great fucking game, though.

One of my favorites of all time. Anybody else played it yet? I played it before. It's been a while, though. Totally worth it. Totally worth it. Yeah, it's fun, man. I bought it on, I guess it was like Super Bowl Sunday. They had a sale.

It was like half price for the Ultimate Edition. So other than that, I've just been playing a lot of Game Pass games because I've paid the monthly fee for the game pass. Like right now I'm playing Doom because I looked up, what are some of the easiest video games to get through and play and get to the end? and Doom popped up. So I'm like, okay, yes. I'm going to hopefully finish that one.

There's like a bootleg VR version of Doom you can put on the quest. Yeah, if you hook into your computer and do some shit. Does not surprise me. It's pretty cool. Yeah, I'm sure it is, David. I'm going with Red Dead Redemption 2 for cooling the week. And now we slide into headlines. Brought to you by Brian.

Take it away, man. Ooh, headlines. I don't know. It'll be a lot this time. It might be less than what we had last time. Uh-oh. Another slow news week. Yeah, it's, uh, I don't know.

I'm not seeing anything we haven't talked about. Got another movie coming out called Sharkbait. Have you got seen that show? Oh. Amityville, Sharkbait? There was a shark attack in an Amityville movie. Oh, okay. Oh, that's great.

Yeah. You guys, I am not seeing any. No news? Should we just skip ahead of trailers? Unless anybody has anything they want to talk about. Cool. Let's see, though. Nothing really has stood out in terms of, like, horror-related news this past week.

Yeah. Like, there's been other types of news, but nothing that I can sort of recall that that I think is pretty big to talk about. Nothing big going on in Australia horror-wise, huh? You guys have any big conventions coming or any big wildfires going on or any tsunamis? Oh, geez. Oh, geez.

Oh, geez. Oh, well, there's always a bushfire going on somewhere in Australia. Nothing in terms of those, but I guess the only big convention we got coming up is in June, and that's Oz Comic-Con. But they haven't announced any guests or anything like that yet for that. So I'm not exactly sure who's even going to that convention this year. Anybody get eaten by sharks? Not lately.

Of like the 10 to 15 people who get killed by sharks every year, like 10 of them are from Australia. Seems that way, doesn't it? Exactly. Well, to be fair, every animal in Australia wants to kill. people, even the cute cuddly ones want to kill you. You did not just say to be fair. To be fair. Ah, you owe yourself money.

Since I said it, you can't give money to me now because I said it on the show. So it doesn't count. All right. To be fair. There we go. I do appreciate you guys inviting me to talk about the Titanic 2. a couple of weeks ago. Although I was shocked to find out James Cameron

didn't direct it. I was a shocker, man. I thought for sure. We were going to follow up with Rose and, you know, see why that bitch wouldn't move over and have a little extra room on the chair. Titanic to like a Leo sequel? Or was it before the...

Take it away, Bid. Take it away. Before the big Titanic came out. So how to explain... Titanic 2. Well, it's not a sequel to, you know, the Leo and Kate one. It just happens to be a standalone movie called Titanic 2 because some rich millionaire dickhead in the movie decided he's going to build like a second Titanic. And of course, shit happens at the Titanic. And Titanic 2 seeks.

Oh, all right. That's going to cash in on a name right there. Exactly. Well, pretty much it was made to be. be, I think it was made hot off the heels because the Titanic, like the 100th anniversary was coming up. So they basically made it to capitalize of that. Like again, recently with the Titanic 666. Which is Ghost. Titanic. Yes. Which I'm not saying that we should all do a commentary of that movie, but I'm just putting it out there into the world. Brian

Brian, you hear that? Yeah, I'm down. Yes. All right. We should do that. We'll do that as like a horror return slash Tooby Tuesdays Trustover episode. That would be fun.

A lot of money changing hands. Exactly. Lots of point zero zero one percent of a cent going back and forth on that one. Kind of like cryptocurrency, I guess. Exactly. We still owe money when B says Tooby. I think he didn't, man, if it's on our show. Yes.

No, it's our responsibility. Calling foul. Yeah, I'm, guys, I'm double-checking here. We've talked about everything. The only thing we haven't talked about, I don't know if anybody cares. Sci-fi is a horror movie, bring it on. Cheer or Die. Oh, come on.

Are you fucking kidding me, man, go on. Amityville cheerleaders. Like, bring it. on 666. There you go. Actually, there was a movie called Satan's cheerleaders, right? Yeah, there was.

Yeah. Right. I believe in my field, too. Stard Sherry Marine, Sherry Moons, whatever the fuck her name is. Guarantee, she'll be in there and Jeff Daniel Phillips will be in there,

guarantee, if it's a rough guy. I am super interested in this Munster's movie. Are you? Especially that it's not going to be Rob Zonby. zombie-esque fuck you

allegedly allegedly it's not Brian but you really think he can get away from that and still make a movie well yeah he has so much he has so much love for the original I think he wouldn't

maybe I don't know this just might be the way I'm thinking about it he he wouldn't want to disrespect the the classic and what it meant to him right right well and maybe show that he has some versed and he can do something else. Yeah, because up to now he hasn't shown any versatility.

Yeah, he's always got his own style, which is cool. Yeah, absolutely, man. Trailer Trash Killers. Yeah, that's kind of his genre. Well, I'm kind of excited for that, maybe. Like Brian said, like he's, from what I've read, Rob Zombie is a monster super fan. Like, he is a huge fan of that show.

So I think, you know, I agree. Like, I don't think he would sort of make his, like, a trailer trash version of the months as he would do something that is, like, very respectful. And I think from what I understand, like, they actually got the rating for it recently. And I think it is going to be rated PG, I think. Wow. Well, we're going to find out. It does it be a movie or a series?

Movie. Movie. Okay. All right. Allegedly, they haven't said it was supposed to be a peacock. director peacock original ah so nass will have it I think he was the first of us to get that

to pay for that network well I mean you got you want to watch WWE you got a P-card that explains a lot between that and young Sheldon and shit like that that he watches yes young Sheldon

strength all right speaking of speaking of Rob Zombie you guys ready to take a little trip down to the trailer part Is that where I about this? Or do we have trailers

this? I don't, shit, I guess I didn't see him, Brian, unless I caught one in the theater. You did not watch House of the Dragon? The Game of Thrones prequel? Oh, the HBO prequel. No, but I'll tell you what, I read the book. Okay, let's start with you.

I think I could talk about it. Let's start with you then, Lance. What should we expect from this series? I expected this book. I was so fucking pissed off at Jar Jar Martin, as we loved to lovingly refer to him in the binge in the binge family, Jar Jar Martin. So fucking pissed off at this cock stuff. He's a fucked up.

No, I mean, look at it this way. He's got, he's owed us two books for like 10 fucking years now, right? Yeah. And so they end up having to finish the show without any actual books to base the last three seasons on. So that's already got me pissed off. Then he comes out with this fucking 700-page book about the House of Targaryen that looks like it's going to be like reading the Bible, like the driest possible reading. This person begat this person and then this king moved on to amass fortunes and was, you know, his throat was slit by this court jester in year 1799, you know, after Dragon or whatever.

I could have been more wrong. The book was fucking amazing. I mean, it was a page turner. I took it with him on vacation. And I remember it was when the presidential election was going on. So, AJ and I got a place out in the middle of nowhere. We got an Airbnb so we can watch all the election coverage. And we actually, I ended up going through that full book, like a 700-plus page book in like four days.

And the guy can write. I mean, make no mistake, R. Martin is a hell of an author. And I mean, I got so tied into the stories of these people that were the House Targary. And I think it goes back, does it go back 100 years, Brian? Is that the feeling? Okay, that makes sense. So it's, I don't think it's going to go choppy.

I think it's going to be a lot more like the book was where you stick with a certain group of characters for, you know, about 80 or 100 pages. And you get to know them really well. and then it kind of time jumps to like their children's children and then you get to know that court really well. So if they do it that way, this one's going to be a winner. Yeah, well, I'm a big Game of Thrones fan. Mainly the show, I haven't read any of the books, mainly because of what Lance says,

it's like taking a billion years for George R. Martin to actually get around to reading the final two books. So I'm looking forward to seeing how this prequel series goes. Like, I literally watched the trailer just before we started. And it definitely is, well, I mean, it's Game of Thrones, but I'm definitely looking forward to us heading back into that world again and kind of seeing, like, the history of the Targaryens and, like, thousands of years before the main story. So I'm very excited to see how the show turns out.

And, I mean, it's got a stacked cast in it as well. Like I kept saying like... That never hurts, right? Never hurts. Yeah, exactly. You know, Matt Smith, Reese Vance, Patty Constantine, Olivia. at Cook. Like, there's so many actors who,

great actors that they got for the series. So I'm definitely doubt to check this one out for sure. Uh, yeah, I mean,

I'll, I'll watch it with, uh, the caveat that the last season kind of sucked, you know, I mean, we know that,

but hopefully they can pull it back. I mean, this is, wipe the slate clean, though, dude, this is going to be a whole new cast of characters,

a different age. This one, yeah, It's based back on the books again, which were the seasons that were fantastic. Yes. And it was only when they didn't have any source material that they sucked. So hopefully it'll be good. Lance, is this going to have anything to do with like the Mad King and that whole?

Absolutely. Absolutely. I'm in. Yeah. Yeah, you're going to get to that, but you're going to build up to it, I think, pretty slowly. you probably won't get to that actual king in the first season, depending on how many seasons they have planned, is what I would tell you. Yeah, hopefully they do have a plan, and it's not like, well, let's see how the first one goes. I think three seasons would be perfect for a 700-page book, right?

Yeah, well, I think they've learned their lessons. They're not waiting on him to write anything new. Mm-hmm. So. Well, I mean, the story's kind of already been completed with or without him, so it's kind of a Yeah, so I imagine from his perspective, it's hard to even think about trying to write those books because they've already been written. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Since this story's already been written, they obviously must have a plan for a beginning, middle, and end to this series.

Yeah, it's three main groups, Brian. They take you through three major, you know, houses, so to speak, or three major, you know, parts of the House Targary. three different ages. I'll put it that way, of House Tergarian. So I think if they keep it to like one season is the first age that they highlight and then the second, then the third, I think it'll be brilliant.

And everybody has white hair. Everybody has white hair. Okay, that'll be interesting to tell people apart. Yeah, in most lore of like middle ages and, you know, stories by, you know, fantasy writers, white hair is often associated with elves. So I'm curious as to whether we find out maybe they're elven in some way, form or fashion. I don't know.

But that just always seems to be a thing, you know? Okay. Well, I'm in. We're going to get to the Matt King and we're going to get some more dragon action. I'm in. So this will debut on HBO August 21st. We'll be there. now I'm kind of mad that you didn't watch this trailer Lance this is your arch nemesis

David Croninberg's The Crimes of the Future The man that you said his son Don't even Was the better director than him Okay yep didn't see it man God damn it I'll have to I'll have to watch it while you guys talk about that All right let me read a quick synopsis Okay

A deep dive into the not so distant future in which humankind is learning to adapt its synthetic surroundings. Whoa! Okay, there we go. And on whatever the granddaughter is watching on YouTube, all these stupid fucking 15-second shots of kids buying toys and shit. All right. I'm sorry, go ahead, go ahead. The evolution moves humans beyond the natural state and into a metamorphosis, which alters their biological makeup. So with that, you're already telling you, it's already telling you you're going to get David Cronenberg body horror in it.

Oh, yeah. This star is Kristen Stewart, Leah Sadobe, Bego Mortensen, Scott Speedman, and a bunch of other people. Of course, written and directed by David Cronenberg. Lance, you're watching it, so I'm going to throw it to bead first. I'm very much excited for crimes of the future. Like I was kind of similar to Lance when I first started, Kronenberg's films. I wasn't that big on him, but as I've gotten older and the more I've seen of his work, particularly his earlier stuff, like I really appreciate him as a filmmaker because

he's such a unique, you know, man and his work is just so singular. Even like the, like I said, the early ones, like I really love as well. But yeah, well, crimes of the future. Yeah. And crimes of the future. What the fuck am I looking at? Ears, man. You're looking at the mind of Cronenberg.

Wow. This has my attention, actually. Yeah, well, I think what's interesting is like now that basically from this trail and also the previous one that I saw that, you know, basically, as Kristen Stewart says in the film, like. surgery is the new sex. Oh, wow. Okay.

So basically, yeah, and I'm excited to see, like, where. I love that you're watching that trailer in real time. Yie! What the fuck is that? I mean, it looks pretty much. Whoa! No! She's not doing that.

Wow. It's like a... Must have got to the... Must have got to the scene where she's making out with his incision in his stomach. That's what I'm at right now, man. Holy shit. Okay, I'm 100% man. Yeah, this totally looks like a tool video.

This looks amazing. Oh, yeah, it looks really messed up. And from what I hear, because it's playing at the Carton Film Festival in a few weeks. And I've heard from, like, from word of people who have seen it, like, in prep for the festival, that this is a movie that's definitely. going to be very divisive and maybe even cause walkouts. Oh, wow. Okay. So I'm...

Is this going to be this year's Mandy, maybe? Maybe. It's possible. Do we need to pregame the same way we pregame for Mandy, Phil? I don't see why not. Well, I'm just down for this movie. It looks great. And I just, it looks very fucked up.

and it's Crotoburg. And also that cast definitely also has to be sold as well. I'm very excited for this film. Yeah, man. It looks interesting. There's like ears and weird body horror stuff. Wouldn't want that guy to be a fighter. Yeah, it looks interesting.

I like it. It all looks like practical effects. And, you know, going back to... Yeah. Yeah, going back to Dr. Strange, too, where everything is CGI. This is kind of a nice departure. Breath of fresh air, huh? Yeah, hopefully it'll be good.

This is more like the thing and less like watching a comic book on the screen, huh? Yeah, yeah. Guys, in front of the green screens. The rating has come out. It will be rated R for strong, disturbing, violent, content, grisly images, graphic nudity, and some language, it says, some. Some, some language, gotcha.

You get all... It's basically just weird. Could be English, could be French, could be German, some. Yeah, you get, you get, you'll get, you'll get, you'll get some bad words in there. Right. But, yeah, I'm a fan of Kronenberg's. I think this is definitely up his alley. It looks very Kronenberg-esque. body for the craziness.

And I'm in. And also it's like his first horror film since probably over 30 years as well. So that makes me even more excited to see it. Sure. Yeah, because he's, I can't think of his last one, but I know he got into like the crime thriller kind of history of violence. He works with Biggo.

I'm a couple, did he? History of violence. And what was What was the other one? Vigo was a, he was a Russian. Oh, shit. East and Proversus. Yeah, those were great movies. Those were great movies. So it's, go ahead.

That one might not go over so well with the current political situation, but yeah. Oh, that one. Now that I think about it now, the last horror movie David Cronenberg made, before he kind of made more kind of non-horror films after that was dead. was dead ringers, which also happens to also involve surgery in that film too. Wow. Yeah. And that was a long time ago, man. See, I've given you guys an idea now.

When this movie comes out, you have to do it as a, like, compare it with dead rigors. Unless you guys have already done that, movie. I'm not sure. Never have. Never have. You know, it might go on the schedule now. There it is. That makes a lot of sense.

If you are in the New York, L.A. area, it will be. June 3rd and then it will expand to a wide release on June 10th and that's it. All right. On to go go check out the, sorry, go check out the new Cobra Chi teaser. Ah, new season coming September. I'm sure. I'm sure. I guarantee you, Nez is going to just fucking get pissed off as hell when Hillary Swank shows up in the final scene, man.

I already told him she's coming. Whether it's an amoe or a recurrent character, she will pop in somewhere. She's coming. As I'm going to tell you right now, you're not going to be mad. For some reason, it's going to make sense. Sure.

Everything else has, right? You can bring back Michael Ironside from that movie for some reason. I don't know. What? Which one was he in? He was in the third one? Okay. All right. All right.

On to listener feedback. This week we shone the podcast spotlight on Shat the Movies podcast. Like William Shatner or what? Like Shat the Bed. Past tense of shit. Amber Hurd's podcast. Aye. Boy.

The pillow cast. Shot the movies podcast. Blade left a mark on every 90s teen, the music, the fashion, detailed breakdown of the vampire economy. But many forget that it also kicked off Marvel string of cinematic success.

It was, I don't know if it kicked it off, but... I don't know, man. It was a damn good fucking movie. Oh, yeah, what? Is that all? They started, after that, isn't that when they started making the Spider-Man,

the first Spider-Man movie? Yeah, well, yeah, X-Men and that, well, yeah, it was Blade, then X-Man and the Spider-Man. Right? Yeah, but at the time, yeah, but at the time, though, people kind of forget, like, Blade was, like, the first actual, legit, good marble movie that was made up to that point. That's a lot. All the other ones were, like, pretty shit. That's a mouthful.

It seemed like they had some shitty ones in between Blade and, like, X-Men. They probably did. Any Fantastic Four movie ever. Yeah, right? That's true. You like some of them? Kind of like the first one, not the second one when he was grabbing toilet paper under the door, Mr. Fantastic. So you like the Roger Corman when then, you're saying?

No, I didn't mean that first one. But I do recommend you getting a bunch of friends and some drinks and watching the Roger Hortman won. Okay. Why not? But let's see. It was darker than any superhero film we'd ever seen, and it had a sense of humor, with the blazing fast origin story and immediate action.

This movie had our attention from the jump, inspiring conversations about the proper way for vampires to age. Wesley Snipes' fighting style, whether vampires should have a living wage, and how an ancient temple ends up in Detroit. It doesn't seem like the best place. It's a great description, man. In this episode, Big D volunteers to get gothed up. Ash explains her undying attraction to Stephen Dorff,

and Gene details how vampires are born. The Shat crew, funny. I love it. Also ranks four blood-sucking movies it's covered so far. Blade, The Lost Boys, interview of the vampire, and from Dust Till Dawn. And Bram Stoker's Dracula. Okay. Check out Shat the Movies podcast at Lipson or wherever you get your content.

We'll check it. And we got Matt Wood, who just listened to the Lords of Salem episode. Although I think it's one of Rob Zombie's worst films, I didn't think it was as bad as you guys rated it. One out of 10 is far too harsh, Brian. Did you give it a one, Brian? I stick by that one. Wow. Ouch.

I just, you have that kind of cast, and that's what you give me. I don't even want to get into it to get angry. I don't remember what I gave it, but sometimes I get caught up. You got Sherry Moon zombie. We expect at least an eight. You know, I don't, I don't hate her, especially when. he puts her in the movies. I can understand why he puts her in all his movies,

but it just D. Wallace and just everybody else that was in that movie. I was just, I was bored. And then when we were, I think we were reading a trivia about it, and the stuff that he was going to put in the movie, but he cut out or just decided not to, it sounded way more interesting than what we got. Okay. Plus you got Sigmund and the C-monster scene, right?

Yeah. Your best friend, Lance. I'm going to be slightly controversial. Yeah. We like that. Not only do I like Lords of Sale, but I think it's his best movie. Oh, wow. That's controversial.

But then again, I'm the guy who thinks like how thousand corpses is his worst, so don't take everything I'd say, but that's my favorite. That might be my favorite. I told you guys I was going to be controversial. See, I told you guys before the show I was going to be controversial tonight. Controversive is way different than flat out wrong, but that's... We can take it, Bid. We can take it.

Yes. Zim Vader added, agreed, at least to 1.5. Also with a reference to French Extreme films, Brian, you mentioned that the rape scene in Irreversible, you can see someone walk in at the end of the subway. Well, that was a member of the crew that walked in on the scene, not knowing it was taking place, and then immediately walked out and discussed. I know it was a mistake that was in the filming of it, but I think it just kind of adds to the scene where this lady's just being horrifically raped, and then you see someone walk in the background,

they see what's going on, and they just turn around and leave. So it was a mistake filming, but I think leaving it in, it just added to the scene. Yeah, well, and it's something that probably happens. Also, I highly recommend a film called Calvare, a.k.a. the ordeal from 2004.

directed by Fabrice Du Welz, brutal French extreme film. I didn't check that one out. Yeah. Add that to the list. As a shout out to our friends from Horror for Dummys, Zim Vader says,

congrats to these chumps for 200 episodes, Bloody Legends. Regarding the baby. Baby! Zim Vader says, I watched the first episode. was okay but not enough to make me stay. I think it has this place, though.

I filled in the back of my brain, and when the time is right, I'll put it on and love every minute of it. Yeah, I think it'll flow better once you probably, maybe wait until they all come out and then just watch it as a whole. Yeah, that makes sense. I just, I can't hear you talk about it without thinking of the Dave Chappelle sketch.

Which one? Or his little comedy routine about the baby, on the corner selling weed. Oh, gosh. Always, always think of that. Hey, baby. Always think of that Saturday Night Live sketch with Queen Latifah.

You guys ever seen that episode? I don't think so. Where she shows up and she plays a rapper and she says, because I'm a baby. You know, like you can just see her hands here? Like, I'm a baby. You know, like, got to rattle at everything. It's hilarious.

Check it out. It's probably on YouTube somewhere. Regarding Intruder Mike Vatchelor says nerd Bede up to it with fucking nerd

I don't know that B guy I hear he's a quite a tosser and if we're made a context for people who don't know we're talking about Ted Raby who is a big fucking nerd in that but a lovable nerd man a lovable nerd man

A lovable nerd. Yeah, that's true. Let's speak there. Like, on the To Me Tuesday's podcast, any time a nerd pops up, we just have the, uh, fucking nerd. That's probably quite frequently. We didn't talk about how continuous

that song he was listened to was. It was just nonstop, the same song. Is that all the same song? Every time it cut to him, he was listened to the same thing. Ouch. Although, to be fair. Fair. I do.

I do have That does happen like quite frankly I'm one of those people Like if I hear a song I really like I just listen to the same song over and over again Yeah wow So I think that kind of mirrors real life in that Whenever he's like listening to music

To that whole movie Uh Vincent per uh Peria I'm sorry dude Close enough Close enough I can't do it Scott Spiegel

He says Scott Spiegel sent me an Uncut VHS when I was in high school Nice Nice Fancy I knew that movie That's got to be worth

Some money now I knew that movie Was kind of edited When I was watching it It just seemed like There was scenes that it just They'd give you a whole Kill scene over here

And then another one It would just seem like It would just cut Mm-hmm I got that feeling too Especially the first couple of kills Brian It's like they were off screen.

And I thought, oh, fuck, are you telling me this whole movie's going to be off-screen kills? And I was obviously so, you know, overjoyed that it wasn't. Come to find out, you know, once they got a few kills in there. But they did have some interesting ways of killing people. That's for sure. Well, one of the deaths in that movie was the inspiration for the bread slice of death in the history, the first one. Okay. Oh, I haven't seen any of the movie.

Fear Street yet. I've got those queued up for Halloween. Oh, yeah, you've got to watch them this year. Yeah, there are a lot of fun those. I'm going to watch those for Halloween this year. All of them are pretty solid. I'm happy with that series. All right.

Regarding Creep's Show 2, Zim Vader says this blue, he's our number one contributor right now. Oh, shit. Yeah, he said, this blew my mind the first time I saw it as a kid, just brilliant. Of course. Well, we need, we need to be sending

money to Zim Vader. Not booby Tuesdays. Mike Bachelors. No offense, Bede. Yeah, how dare you? How dare you?

I think Zim's from Australia, if I'm not mistaken, isn't he? I think so. Oh, that's awesome. Okay, well, if he is,

you'll benefit anyway because if we send money to him, it'll somehow end up in your tax base and you'll benefit in some way form or fashion. So, you know, that's how it works. Exactly, exactly.

They confirmed. My bachelor says we used it at the cottage when I was a kid. I was not jumping off the dock after that. Yay. Don't blame you. Regarding Titanic 2, there it is. There we go. Tavares Ellis says, I was just thinking why James Cameron didn't make a Titanic sequel instead of an avatar sequel.

I know, right. Oh. Yeah, he needs to get on that. I said I'll have to take up the movie. Oh, yeah, well, I just now remember just now speaking of trailers, like before Dr. Strange, they showed the first trailer for the Avatar sequel. It actually looks pretty fantastic. I was just about to ask you guys, because that was like the big rumor that they were releasing a debut in the trailer before that movie. Yeah, and it looks spectacular.

So it looks like it was worth the weight? Oh, yeah, definitely. Like, I think having sort of weighted that, well, by the time the movie comes out this year, 13 years, so they can develop more of the CGI and the technology and all that, really, it looks almost photo realistic, even more so than the first one. Yeah, very, very CGI-based. I don't think I even saw any live action in the trailer, huh? I did see some human characters, like, speak,

throughout. Like, it's not going to be fully CGI from the getting dead, but yeah, but even then, the CGI itself in the film just looks next level. It does look way the first one. But off the same base, you know?

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I was going to show it, but I don't know where I'll put it. The cabin in the woods. Cabin in the woods. That's a good one. It's a good one. Recently released collectible steelbook. Okay. So even if you're in Australia.

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Just send us an email at the horror returns at gmail.com with your name and address and how you first heard about the show. Wow. What could be easy? Yeah. You don't even need to solve a math problem. Just like you email us who you are, where you are and how you heard about us, right? Jesus Christ, anyone can do that, you lazy bucks. Nick Liz Cage left on a bullet train at three o'clock. If two Nicholas cages arrive at 5 o'clock, how many Nicholas cages would there be in the multiverse at the same time? An infinite is the correct answer. I shouldn't have given you that. All right.

Now, time for our main attractions. It's fucking Cage rage week. Yes. And this time we look at the brand, new unbearable weight of massive talent as well as 2021's pig there was a two there instead of an acid threw me off uh we'll start we'll start with pig um a truffle hunter who lives alone in or in the Oregon wilderness uh must return to his past Portland in search of his beloved foraging pig after she's kidnapped sounds horrible right sounds funny sounds funny

fucking horrible. It's not like it. It is a different movie for Nicholas Cage. Okay. Hey guys, sorry to interrupt. Before we begin, I'm going to ask a question. Okay, I want the group to decide on this. So, release date, wide release date was July 16th, 2021. So technically less than a year, do we do the spoiler alert for Pig? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. All right. So we'll treat it just like a new movie then, right? Okay, fair enough. All right, cool. The director is Michael Sarnaski, also known for the upcoming Quiet Place Part 3. Bam. Writers are Michael Sarnoski with Vanessa Black.

In an after-film Q&A, director Michael Sarnoski revealed that Pig only had three days of training. Oh, that the pig only had three days of training and bit Nicholas Cage multiple times. Wow. Great. After our particularly a nasty bite, Cage joked,

I've been set on fire, I've been flipped in cars, but it'll be sepsis from a pig bite that kills me. Not to mention the bees, right, dude?

Yeah. I could never forget. I should have done that character. Oh, Lord. Wow. Wow. Now that's trivia. When the main

characters walk through a Portland restaurant on their way to find the underground passageway they're actually walking through Huber's Portland Portland's oldest restaurant and bar the owner James Louis was used as an

extra and can be seen standing next to one of the tables wearing a suit in the background as the characters walk through and hopefully that place isn't really there or I imagine they have many people searching for it no doubt no doubt

take tours Beed. You recently watched it again. What are your thoughts on pig? Well, I've got to say, when I first heard about pig, like, I just read the synopsis, I feel like, this is basically

like John Willick. That's what I kind of and I thought, oh, it's going to be very silly based on the place like a guy. K's just, I'm going to go find my truffle pig. I don't pull back.

That's what I assumed that movie was going to be. And then when I watch the film, it's completely not that film at all. Like, it does have that kind of John Wick. Sorry. Like, it does have a bit of what is, that definitely has similarities to John Wick, but I would, if I had to describe the film the people, it would be more like, imagine John Wick without the action and it's,

and being more of a meditation on loss and grief. And this is what Pete definitely is because. Okay. Like, you would think with a movie with a premise like this would be very silly, but it plays it completely straight. And it ends up being sort of like this moving character study of this guy who's had a trouble pass. His pig gets kidnapped. And he goes all over Portland to find his pet pig. But the way how it's sort of set up, like I said, it has that John Wick kind of qualities because it has an interesting sort of set of world building throughout it.

Because we know that everyone, Nick Cage's character of Rob runs into, like, they know who he is. They know his backstory. And also, there's like this interesting world. Like there's an underground fight, like group that has like chefs and waiters and all that involved in. And also, I don't know how much that part makes any sense. Yeah, it's got to, but it's an interesting kind of added layer to the film that kind of makes this world building of this, of the story very interesting. And like being that it's a very, you know, sort of set in the culinary world,

instead of say, you know, a world of assassins kind of just makes it very interesting. And of course, Nick Cage is just amazing throughout the whole film. And I think what's great about this film is that, you know, people all kind of just see Nick Cage as the guy who goes, wah, and does Cage rage all the time. But people forget, like, he can play very subtle brilliantly. And I think this is definitely one of his most subtle performances. He only shouts maybe once or twice throughout the whole movie, but it's not played laughs. It's very impactful.

And he's just amazing. And of course, where the story goes is quite moving and heartbreaking as well. It's just a really fantastic film that, again, like, as you watch it and the story reveals itself, like we get to know the characters of what's going on. it just makes it even more like involving and just, and it's just brilliantly done. It's just like an absolutely brilliant little film. All right.

Brian, let's roll over to you. What do you think? This movie is amazing. It's not what I expected it to be. Bid, you said it perfectly. When I'd seen the trailer, read the synopsis, okay, someone steals his pig and he's going to murder everybody. to get his pig back.

But as the movie was going on, I was like, what's, what's happening? But in a good way, though, because it's beautifully shot. I love the way the story's told. He completely transforms himself for this role physically. And there was just lines that he was dropping throughout the movie. That was just kind of just, it stays with you and just kind of hits you. And you just, you just feel for his character.

and then I thought look at them up real quick is it Nat Wolf or is it Alex Alex Wolf? Alex Oh, the hereditary kid, right? Yeah, I thought he was great in it and the whole storyline with his relationship with him and his father.

Yeah. And that one scene really, really hit home for me, the scene where Nicholas Cage recreates the meal that his mother and father had right down to everything and when they eat it they get taken back to that particular moment and remember how they felt towards each other at that time

and I thought that was just great storytelling right there and it just makes me crazy that he was not Nicholas Cage wasn't even nominated for anything major so it's crazy this is one of his best performances That's saying a lot. All right. Lance, what do you think? Yeah, I'm on the same bandwagon.

I mean, the guys have both summed it up beautifully. It's not what we were expecting, and I'm glad it's not what we thought it was going to be, because, yeah, like Bede said, I thought it was going to be, you know, Nick Cage going full John Wick, right? Like, where, my pig, they're going to pay, you know, like he's going out on a round. page, you know, but that's not the case at all. And my wife is actually very much part of that world. She's, she's not a chef, but she's, you know, worked in food service quite a bit before. And she's actually a store manager for a company called Sir LaTobb, which sells extremely high-end cooking utensils, coffee makers, cutlery and things like that. So are they a part of the Underground Fight League? I think they might be. She hasn't told me directly, but

You don't talk about Underground Fight League. We are going to know. We're going to know. We got a problem. We are going to find out, Brian. We are going to find out. Okay. I promise you.

I'm working on it. I'm working on it. I'll fight a server. I'm in. I would say half of her clientele is like, you know, super, super well-to-do people that just, you know, want to really entertain well for parties. But at least half of her clientele is. chefs um she like particularly with the cutlery you know because they sell a lot of super high end

i don't know if you guys knew this but you could you can buy a knife for like 500 there's some fucking badass knives out there and they say a chef is never leaves his or her knives um if you go like if you get fired from one restaurant and you go to another restaurant you very slowly and methodically put all of your knives uh in sheaths in this thing that you carry and roll it up and you take it with you a chef's knives or a chef's knives. So there was a lot in this movie that I could relate to. I've been with her to several, you know, really nice restaurants.

You guys are familiar with the Michelin Star rating system for restaurants? So a restaurant could either have one, two, or three Michelin Stars, right? So the absolute pinnacle of a restaurant is if you're able to get that three Michelin Star rating, that's like almost impossible. to get like maybe yeah well i don't even think uh ramsie has a has a three michelin star man i think he's had maybe maybe a couple of ones um that's how hard it is to no that's how hard it is to get the that that high up and so here's what i love about this movie is it's very obvious from the way that they're treating nick cage throughout this movie is that he was very much a part

of that world he was obviously they refer to him as chef and he was obviously, you know, that's super, super upper echelon, you know, very unique, very, very, very small amount of people make it as far as he did. And he chose to get out of it because it's so high pressure. And there's just so much going on and, and you're just forced. Like if you guys have seen the movie chef, where, you know, the, toward the beginning of the movie chef, the, I guess the main chef is forced to leave the restaurant because he doesn't want to do the menu that the owner, the new owner comes in and says, just do this

every night, just do like steak and vegetables every night, steak and potatoes, nothing else. And he wants to do his own thing. That happens a lot. And I think that's beautifully woven into this movie. I don't totally understand the underground fight club thing. I think it almost lost me there or it was going to for a bit. But when they got back onto the, you know, the actual travels of him trying to find his, his pig that he's gotten so attached to because he did leave this world, this super glamorous

life behind just so he could be on his own. He just wanted all he wanted was his pig. He wanted to be out there with this pig that helped him find the truffles. He would sell him to this kid who would, you know, do kind of almost like a black market thing where he would get the truffles to the restaurants because they're so sought after. Just so much more of a movie than I expected. I was incredibly impressed with this film. Can I jump it real quick? Yeah. Lord Ramsey's restaurant in London currently has held three stars,

Michelin Star, since 2001. I thought he was the three star. Well, I stand totally corrected then, so that's one of the things that they preview on his shows and stuff. Yeah, throughout his career, he's been aboarded 16 Michelin Stars. That's unbelievable, dude. Which is a crazy, crazy amount for a chef. And he calls people donuts and donkeys. Yeah, if you think that Gordon Ramsey is just a fucking TV chef, he's not.

So Brian, does that article tell you which restaurant it is that has held three since 2001? His signature restaurant Gordon Ramsey in London. So I think it's named Gordon Ramsey. I think the next time that the wife and I go there, if we ever do again, we were actually supposed to go to London for Christmas time in 2000. Needless to say that, or I mean in 2020, needless to say that didn't work out. So if we ever make it, we'll have to check it out. That's very interesting to know, Brian, because I didn't realize he had had that achievement.

Yeah, I had to look it up real quick because I swore I've heard that he's had, one of his restaurants has multiple stars. I would say that that's a restaurant worth checking out. I mean, I think it's like, Frim Miller, Crem. him and like one other dude who may be dead at this point have had that many Michelin stars and then everybody else is like 10 below him so makes sense yeah makes perfect sense uh yeah no i uh i i definitely agree this was not the movie i expected to see um but it was also very moving and uh a very sincere you know and And Nicholas Cage pulled it off fucking perfectly. This just shows his acting chops. It was something totally different than the stuff he's been doing lately, you know, the crazy things.

And I mean, yeah, the Underground Fight Club, I don't know how well it really fit the movie or how much it played a part. I mean, it was fun to watch for sure. But like how much did it play a part into the plot? I don't know. It was kind of weird. But honestly, aside from that, and I don't even really have a problem with that part of it, man, I was very pleasantly surprised with this movie, considering it was not what I expected to be watching at all.

And this was my second watch, and I was excited to watch it again. So that's something. Nice. Good movie, man. Nick Cage is. is no joke. All right. Let's do scores.

Bede, what do you think? You know, this was definitely an absolutely fantastic film, and what I can definitely see myself watching many, many times again in the future. And I'm not going to lie, guys, I think Nick Cage is brilliant in this film, and the movie itself is just as equally great as Bruce's performance. I'm going to go all the way and give this. film 10 out of 10. Whoa!

Hey, you know what? He lets a lot of shit sit like in all of the conversations and stuff. Like there's a lot of downtime and it works. Sure. Yeah, I mean, I mean, this talk about it after spoilers, but the speech that that Brian was telling me about that really hit him in the heart so much is the guy that could have done something that he really wanted to do, but he kind of So we'll talk about that after Spothers, right? Great scene. All right, Brian, what's your score?

Take this ride with Bede. This is a 10. There's nothing about this movie that I can honestly say is bad. The performance is a great. He lets you know, you say what you want about some of his more recent movies. You know, he did it for the check and all that. but this one he showed you, I can fucking still act. Dude, to be fair, most of his recent stuff is just fucking amazing.

To be fair. Are we getting T-shirts? Yes. Yes. Well, I mean, that's the thing though. I mean, this is our fourth cage-rage episode we've done for the show. And pretty much nearly every film we've talked about for the show has been pretty much on point. Like, I mean, other than the Wicker Man, but that's a whole different story.

Every movie, that's on the point in a different way. Yeah, exactly. That one that's fun to watch because of it's him. Yeah, exactly. But every movie we've talked about, like in these cage range episodes, has been pretty solid overall. And it's definitely up there for me as one of the best ones we've talked about in these episodes.

Lance, what do you think? What's your score? I can't go 10 out of 10. And it's not a horror, of course it's not a horror movie, but I still think it made it on to, Brian didn't it make it under your top 10 list last year. So it didn't quite make it under mine, but I will give it a good strong 8 out of 10. I think it's a powerful film. And yeah, some of Nick Cage's best acting.

Yeah. And most subdued, which in this case worked out really well. To be fair. Yeah, I'll go in between those. I'm going to give it a 9, man. This is an instant classic. And if you're looking for some of Nick Cage's best work, I mean, you know, you've got the classics, of course, which I'm sure we'll talk about in the next movie because there's 100 throwbacks to him. But literally.

Yeah. But this one is really good, man. Like it was a really solid movie. I was very impressed. Not what I expected at all, but I loved it. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert.

You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. All right. I want to throw some spoilers in there before we move on. Yeah, because everybody wants to know whether the pig ended up being bacon or if you got back to Nick Cage, right? And maybe that was my only problem with the ending. But yeah, it was more of a like cook movie than a revenge movie.

Absolutely. Yeah, and very quietly done too. Yeah. Which at some points I thought it really should have been. Like those meth heads from the beginning, like I would have felt really good if he had just slaughtered them. Wouldn't that have been correct? one thing I do want to real quick because Brian you

like I said you kind of touched my heart when you were telling me how much that one scene meant to you so the scene where he does go into that other restaurant right and he's treated with so much respect because of who he was and all that but he did have a heart-to-heart talk you know with the chef in that restaurant why did that scene touch you so much

oh that one that was a different scene but I enjoyed that scene because he's basically telling the guy like, you know, you care so much about this restaurant that's not even your, what you wanted to do when you first came to see. You had a completely different dream and now you're doing somebody else's dream. You're doing somebody else's. How do he's like cooking this? Well, it's very good at. Yeah, just there was just so many moments throughout this movie where he was just dropping little gems like that. And I just love, you didn't really have to get that much about his character when,

because when people like, oh, you're who you are, you kind of felt that instant respect and what his name, kind of the authority that it pulled. And, yeah, and one of the lines that I love, what does he say? I wrote it down here. Sometimes, sometimes in life we don't get a lot of, of things to really care about. And that just kind of like, you kind of sit there and you think about it.

You know, we don't really get a lot of things that we really care about. You know, you got to hold on to those things. And this is, this movie touched me, you know, a lot of times throughout the movie. And sometimes you lose them. Yeah, because like the film, I think what so, how, what it does so beautifully is because, you know, we find that as the story progresses that, The character of Rob has lost his wife, and that was one of the key reasons why he went into seclusion and away from everyone just to deal with his grief. And of course, he gets this truffle pig, who basically is probably the first thing since his wife that he truly loves and cares about.

And, of course, once the pig dies, well, you find out that the pig is dead, that it just hits you in the gut. And you feel for his character on that moment. But at the same time, though, there's a hopefulness to it because, you know, he ran away from that world that he was a huge part of just to deal with his grief. And now that since his pig has gone and kind of going back to that world, he sort of realizes that he's able to move on and that he has, and he can accept his grief and not feel that. you know, that is, like, he's able to move on. So it's him finally just, you know, making peace with him, his past self, the things that he's lost and,

and also just, you know, able to move on. And that's why the ending is so beautifully done with him just, because at the start of the movie, like he has this tape that his wife recorded for him, where she sings her version of the Bruce Springsteen song, I'm on fire. And he's just, and he can't, yeah, he, He can't bring himself to listen to it, but then he finally sits down and listen to it.

It's just him in that moment, like, finally, you know, he's finally, you know, finally ready to move on. Acceptance. Yeah, acceptance. And it accepted it, exactly. And it's such a beautiful way to end the movie. And it's, and what's great, though, is like, you sit there once that the ending finishes, you just sit there as the credits roll because you're just so into that moment.

And that cover is a beautiful cover, too. Yeah, absolutely. That's exactly what I did. I sat there and watched the entire screen crawl and listened to the song because it's just the kind of movie it is, you know? Like, I hate to compare it to that, but it's like that episode of Game of Thrones where the dude gets his eyes squished out. Oh, God. That was, speaking of the next movie, right? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

It was Pedro Pescal. But, like, at the end of that episode, all I did was just watch the credits roll and was, like, dumbfounded. And that's sort of how I was with this movie. And a lot of it was because it was, like, I had a lot of the anger with me from him about his pig dying. And I'm like, man, he should be taking these dudes out. and he just he accepts it and moves on and right i mean that's kind of what the movie's about right there's some things you can do and there's some things you can't yeah it's so different from what we thought it was going to be right yeah especially with nick cage of all people yeah and

it just it showed his versatility i think and this was a a great role for him to take and i think he pulled it off perfectly like i can't see anybody else in this role. Whereas I think the next film is going to show his versatility in a completely different way. Exactly. Into the next movie. The

unbearable weight of massive talent. Appropriately named. The fictionalized version of Nick Cage must accept a one million dollar... Or was it the fictionalized version? Must accept a $1 million offer to attend the birthday.

What a million? of a dangerous superfan Javi Gutierrez. Things take a wildly unexpected turn when Nick Cage is recruited by a CIA operative Vivian and forced to live up to his own legend, channeling the most iconic and beloved on-screen characters in order to save himself and his loved ones. Director is Tom Gormacan, also known for that awkward moment, and the TV series Ghosted. Hey, that's the one I talked about last week.

Yeah, there you go, man. Good show. Things turn around. Writers are Tom Gornikon and Kevin Etton. At the end of principal photography, the whole cast was gifted with a pillow with Nicholas Cage's case. One of the ones with the sequins? Oh, man, I want one now.

I know. I hope one of the sequence. Those are going to be available somewhere somehow, right? Oh, no. They have been. Yeah. Oh, they're available. You can buy them? Oh, can you?

Yeah. I've seen those a lot. Each autographed by himself. Those are a little harder to find. Yeah. This is Nick Cage's 100th film in a leading role. Wow. He's like the White Sinello Jackson. Wow.

Our Danny Trejo. Yeah. All right. Bede. We'll go to you first. What did you? that you're the Nick Cage superfan. What did you think about?

Unbearable weight of massive talent. All right. So basically, like, as anyone knows, I'm a huge Nick Cage fan. And over the last few years, you kind of hear all the crazy films that he's been in. Like, of course, Mandy or Willie's Wonderland or Keller Out of Space. You're like all these different bizarre roles that he's plays. All fantastic. Even mom and dad.

It was a good one. Exactly. Exactly. Exactly. And you kind of think like, oh, I mean, Nicholas Cage has played every bizarre own character. Where is the next logical step from the go? And that answer is legit playing himself in a movie. And when I first heard about this movie, I'm like, yes.

And when I first heard about this film, I'm like, yeah, I am so weird. And I'm definitely going to say this movie, without a doubt, delivers. Because this film is without a doubt, like a true celebration on both Nicholas Cage, the actor. and his films. And I was, yeah, because I was kind of worried because, like, being that this is, has Nicholas Cage playing himself, it's going to have a complete matter aspect about it. Like, is the film going to be a bit smug about it, or is Nick Cage going to be way too on the joke?

Like, it's very apparent, like, Nick Cage is aware of, you know, his memeability over the last couple years, but he still does a completely great job as himself in the movie, or at least making a version of himself. Like, he's a lot of fun throughout this whole film. And it's good to kind of see him in a full-blown comedy, because it's been a long time since we've seen him in a role like this. And he's just fantastic. And him also playing up his image and what everyone knows about him

and being like going his full-on method in his acting roles and just, saying yes to any movie role that comes his way. And also meeting Pedro Pascals character, who I am 100% convinced is actually based on me. You think so, huh? Are you involved in a little bit of you, a little bit of Colombian drug lord? Well, to be fair, I do, I am a Colombian drug lord in my spare time, but that's beside the point.

But anyways, but sort of what, For me, what makes this whole film is the relationship between those two characters. Because when Cage and Pascal are on screen together, the movie just sort of is just magical, but especially like with them hanging out and Pascal just being a complete awe of Cage. And it's, there's so many great funny moments throughout. And like, I love the scene where they, where Cage arcs like Pascal like whatever his free favorite films. And of course, first one being face off. and then one of the ones being Paddington 2.

And Kay just like, really? Paddington 2? And then he goes, watches the movie and he's like full of bawling at the end of the movie. He was fucking great. Exactly. And also, like, I love the scene where they get high on drugs. And they think that some bad guys are following him. Oh, yeah.

It's pretty hilarious. Which is in the trailer, and it's hilarious in the trailer. Exactly. And they give it to you straight. Exactly. Like I said, it's just a full celebration of Nick Cage, this whole film. And it's just a lot of fun. There's a lot of great funny moments.

Like, the supporting cast are great. And, you know, like, it's not to say the film doesn't have flaws. It definitely does. But for most part, though, I think the film does a really good job. It's kind of showing us why Nick Cage is as beloved as a, is without taking, like, kind of celebrating that without taking the absolute piss out of him as well,

in a kind of a patronizing way. So I think the film finds that good balance of being a good celebration of Nicholas Cage, both the actor and the man himself. All right. Nice. Brian, what do you think? Loved it. This

movie is a celebration of everything Nick Cage, which we should always celebrate anything Nick Cage. And I loved all the references, him playing a version of himself, which might not really be a version of himself. He just might be just playing his actual self. It's amazing.

The beat you brought up, the Paddington scene. The scene also was brought up was when they were high, and they thought somebody was following them. The whole wall thing of him just, not to go into spoilers, but just them acting out of scene in a movie where he, He's just like, no, you got to go on without me. And he's like, no. It was fantastic.

Tiffany Haddish, I thought she did well for what she was doing. She was barely in the movie. Yeah, both the FBI guys. And who's the other guy? I, Barerholz. Yeah, yeah. But I love that scene where every time she's bringing up a movie, it's like the crudes or, you know,

something like that. And he's just like... Right. Something in her real house. He's just like, who the fuck? I'm a grown man. You know, why would I watch the Cruz too? Right. When I see Nick Cage, I think Con Air, the Rock, you know. Yeah, the classic stuff, huh? And Pedro Pascal's, Jaime,

I would hang out with this guy. This guy seems like so much fun. He seems like an absolute sweetheart and just I... Just the way he played that role of in awe, Nick Cage and just a smile on his face every time he's looking at him. Like, I can really see that happening to me if I'm hanging out with

Nick Cage today. Yeah, sure. This, unlike Pig, which I didn't know, it gave me something I didn't know I was getting. This gave me everything I wanted in a Nick Cage playing himself. A Nick Cage playing himself

in a spy thriller action movie comedy. It just had a little bit of everything in it and I thought it was fantastic. Yeah, way better than the Melissa McCarthy spy movie. Oh, ouch, which actually wasn't terrible.

I got to say. It was a super intelligence. I can't remember. He's talking about just spy. Oh, where Jason State them? Yeah, that was pretty good. Yeah, it wasn't awful. It wasn't this movie.

No. No. No. It had a very, it had a very, important thing missing and that was Nick Cage. Yes. Leave it at that, right? Did Nick Cage make this movie for you? It's going to be a tough, this could be a very, very tough year for me.

I don't know. Last year, I was kind of down on a lot of movies. I thought that last year, not only the stuff we talked about, but like the Oscar movies and things like that, I thought we had a really down year. And I think somehow they're making up for it this year.

And I don't know why, what it is, but like between this one and the one I saw a couple of weeks ago, everything, everywhere, all at once. These are like, see, these are both neck and neck for my favorite film of the year. I would consider this really

almost masterpiece level. It's just, yeah, it really is good. It's just it's everything you expected it to be, but in the way you were hoping that it would be. Like, whereas Pig was nothing you expected it to be in a way that you're

glad it wasn't what you thought it was going to be, if any of that makes sense at all. Yeah. But those scenes were like he was talking to young Nick Cage, like the... Oh, Nikki? Yeah, Nikki from like the days of, like, honeymoon in Vegas. Yeah. And, oh, what was the one he was in where he was so... Oh, the one where they kidnapped the baby. Oh, right?

Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. What I love. It really made you think. I got to say that.

Yeah, well, what I love about Nikki, the cage is like a younger alternative self in this film. Because if you, I, this is how much of a Nick Cage I fan I am, because I noticed like the clothes that character wears and I realize I've seen those exact clothes somewhere before because those are the same clothes. Nick Cage wore for like an interview back in the early 90s where you like came out on stage as like kicking the air

and throwing stuff at the audience and stuff like. Like that whole video is like a meme of itself, but it's an amazing video. And I just had, I was like very kidding. Yeah, not only that, that's the same look, the same hairstyle, everything is based on that, on that interview. So I was like excited to see that. Even the toothpick, need? Did he have the toothpick? Yeah.

Oh, my God. It was probably a very integral moment in his life and one that he looks back on, you know? Yeah. Yeah. And we found out Nick Cage can smooch. Nick Cage can't do you tell him. That was a little silly, but okay. Yeah, no, great movie, man.

Yeah, like I said, it's in the running for my favorite film in the year so far. Yeah, man. I don't have anything negative to say about it. To be honest, it's just, it was exactly what I wanted from this movie. You know what I mean? Like, it was a good, like, buddy movie. And then it had, like, some spy aspects. And it was just very self-aware of what it was doing.

And they pulled it off perfectly. I think this is an instant classic. It was no Titanic 2. No. Dude, I'll watch this one again in a heartbeat. This is one of those. I would like to see a little more Tiffany Haddish. Something about her.

She's not, like, super hot. But something about her kind of turns me. on. I don't know what it is. Just her attitude, I guess, maybe, but I don't know. I'm starting to really like her and everything I see her in. It's a tennis ball head. That'll get you slapped, though.

No, I and yeah, she's hilarious, too. I, I kind of wish the CIA guys had had more of a part in this, because both of them are funny as hell. Tiffany Haddish and the other guy, whatever the fuck his name was.

The dude from all the Seth Rogen movies. And, yeah, like, it was pretty fucking impressive, man. This is one that I can watch over and over and over again and will immediately become a classic. This is probably going to be one of my favorite movies eventually. Not yet, because I'm only seen it once, but. Right. Sure, sure. I think it has a real good potential of getting there.

and the mandolarian I can never I can never think of him again without seeing the mandolian you know well dude and they threw in a Captain Carrady's mandolin as that was

they did Captain Curley's mandolin absolutely they're a lot of good reference to that I was like holy shit I forgot about that I had forgotten about it too oh yeah well that's a big though like this whole film is just like it goes deep,

it deep dives into a lot of, like, yeah, it's a, K, does work, particularly his 90s stuff, like I know like,

uh, even guarding Tess is brought up. Yes. At a certain point in the movie. Which is another one I forgot about. Another one I've forgotten about. But I did love the captain, Corelli's mandolid one as well,

because I thought that was a great little running gag throughout the whole film. Yeah. Sure. I think, I think, I think we're all in agreement. Yeah. This,

this, And that chemistry between those two guys is fucking unbelievable. Yeah. Like, I loved every, when both of them were on screen at the same time, I loved every scene that they were in. That does make a difference, doesn't it? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, this show's got to be up there into the Spiderverse for us, guys, score-wise, I think.

All right, well, let's go scores. B, what do you think? Is it as good as pig? I would say it's as good as pig because they're completely too different movies but I do think this one is a lot of fun and like I said it's a true blue celebration of Nick Cage so if you're a big Nick Cage fan

you're going to love this movie it's just a lot of fun from beginning to end Cage is fantastic as both himself and as as his alter ego Nikki Cage and I love how at the end of the movie like Nikki is credited under Nicholas Cage's real name, Nicholas Kim Coppola, which I thought was pretty funny.

No, shit. I didn't catch that. I didn't catch that. Of course, this movie goes deep. Exactly, exactly. There's definitely some aspects I think that the movie could have gone a little fervor with. Like, I think as much of the Smy stuff was a lot of fun. I think it feels probably not as good as, say, the stuff with Nick Cage and Pedro

Pascal, because that to me was. like some of the big highlight stuff. But the spice stuff is still a lot of fun. Like, it's a hugely entertaining film and one that I think every Nick Cage fan needs to check out. So I think my rating for it is definitely eight out of ten. Nice. Nice score. Oh, I would have expected her.

Well, I need to see it again because I did plan to see it again before the show, but I didn't get it. Yeah, but I did get a chance to, but I can see my rating go up higher on repeat viewings. Brian I'll go up higher this is a nine I need to see the further adventures of Nick Cage and Jaime

It's coming It's coming I think Be like you said Just everything With their interactions It just I felt like I was watching A sequel to Stepbrothers

Like I was watching Two people just become Best friends all of a sudden And it was fantastic I loved all the Nick Cage references talk about in spoilers

but yeah this is a so this is the top of my list for the year they really

did have that moment huh did we just become best friends yep especially especially when

they when they when they do drugs you can see they really connected with each other

fucking thattingson too uh Lance what do you think I loved it when they

were tripping on acid and they saw the two guys and they Are they looking at us? Don't look. Don't look. Don't look. Are they looking at us?

And then they run away and they see two other guys, one of which also happens to have ginger hair. And the other one kind of looks a little bit like the other guy and said, do they are again? I think it was the same guys. They just ran around the same area. See, I must have been tripping, dude. I thought it was two totally different guys. Yeah, I think they just ran around a building. It came around. It's a rewatch. It's a rewatch for sure. But I'll get this one nine. out of 10. This, like I said, this is going to be in the running for Tops for me this year.

It's easy 9 out of 10. Yeah, I mean, this is the only one I can think of so far for Tops this year. I'm going to give it a 9.5, man. I love it. Damn. Yeah, dude, it's fantastic. This is one that I can see myself watching over and over again and not getting sick of. And my list of movies that I can do that with are stupid, but I'll tell them to.

Yeah, and Steppers is one of them, right? What is it? Step Brothers is one of them, right? Step brothers, yeah, Step Brothers is probably one of them, not one that I had considered, but like Jay and Sondel of Bob Strikeback, Austin Powers 3 is classic. All of those for you. Yeah, Pulp Fiction I can watch over and over.

And I think this one jumps on that list, man. I can watch this movie over and over again. I love those buddy comedies, man. And it wasn't even like guttural laughs going through the whole thing, but it was like so many little chuckle moments that were fantastic. And they really pulled it off. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned.

This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. This is a motherfucking spoiler alert. You've been fucking warned. Not much to spoil, is there? I mean, we got what we thought we were going to get, right? Yeah, I mean, we can continue on with the, when they ran from the two guys they swore was following them. I love that because it's another Nick Cage movie reference.

He wants Nick Cage to drive the car, and he was like, I can't drive. And he was like, but you did all your stunts and gone in 60 seconds, and he was like, that's true. So he jumps in the car. And then he runs over a bunch of cars and bicycles. And then I love the reveal of Hobby Shrine. Because he thinks that's where the girl's kidnapped. And he was like, if you go in there, it's going to change the way you think of me.

And he goes in there and it's just like... Yeah, that was well done. That was well done. Is that the chainsaw for Mandy? Yeah. Yep. Yep. He's got the...

The diapers from Raising Arizona. Yeah, the... The little nucleas... little the little bead things from the rock. Oh yeah. He has them strong out. This is a big thing you got to watch over and over and over. But I love when he goes up to the mannequin and he's just talking about how grotesque it is.

Or give me $20,000 for it. Yeah, that was hilarious. Like, you can definitely, I can definitely see Nick Cage actually doing that in real life. Just going, this, this mannequin, it's so grotesque. I'll buy it right now. You said that. that was a callback to his overspending on

stuff? I would say so. I would say so, especially when, like, when he bought a bloody dinosaur skull. And then he wanted to try to buy Dracula Castle as well. Jesus Christ. Maybe he'll do that once in the next Dracula movie, right?

Yeah, he bought multiple houses because he heard that they were haunted. Well, yeah, the one in New Orleans. The Lollary Mansion. but I think he lost it. That one the IRS got from him. They took that one back. They'll get you every time.

Well, that's a thing, though, like, I know because Nicholas Cage was kind of very apprehensive about being in this film. And I can understand why, especially since it is, he's going to be playing himself. But I feel like the movie kind of does treat all the quirky things about him with respect and love, rather than just being mean-spirited. about it because you could easily have made because you can easily like take the piss out of like his like insane spending sprees and stuff like that but the movie finds gags where it actually is funny and not not laughing at his expense or anything like that so i think that's how you can definitely tell the people behind this film are huge fans of his and really just sort of treated him with respect throughout this whole film well and a couple of people in the movie are huge

fans of his movies have changed their life and that shit happens you know yeah because I loved in the beginning the girl that gets kidnapped what is she watching she's watching a Nick Cage film yeah is she really yeah and then when I gotta go back to rewatch this guys yeah and then when they when when she realized who's rescuing her at the end she was like Nick

Cage that's fucking cool yeah I love that moment okay actually Do you guys think it's streaming anywhere yet where I might confine it? I've sailed the seas. Probably not yet. I wouldn't be surprised it will be start streaming soon

given how quick of a turnaround movies going from cinemas to streaming services up. So I don't think it'll be too long until you... I want to say it will be streaming soon because I think the Blu-ray

is supposed to come out near the end of the month. Okay. Oh, that would be nice. Probably a little too soon for me or, I mean, a little too late at night for me to get down to the theater, especially after about six beers. Yeah.

Maybe not a good idea. Okay. Hey, I wanted to go see it at like 10.30 last night because there was only one theater still playing it. Yeah. Well, because Dr. Strange came out. It took a lot of spots. It took a lot of theaters up.

It was some other bullshit that came out this week that nobody gives shit about. Exactly. So, B, thanks for. joining us, brother. Yeah, I'm always more than happy to come on the show. It's always a pleasure and it's always fun talking. Nick Cage and other movies with you guys, and I look forward to coming back again in the future. All right, well, real quick, man, run down. Tell us what's coming up on your networks and what you and Marcy have planned for us this month. Indeed, indeed. So basically, by the time this episode drops, our first episode of Troma Month on the To Be Tuesday,

day podcast will be out. So the very first film we're going to be doing is the toxic Avenger, which is basically, you know, the quintessential film when people think of trauma. And we're doing other trauma films throughout the month. So definitely keep a listen for those. And also we've got other shows coming up very soon. We've recorded an episode of, a new episode of podcasts of horror. So we're going to be, that episode is going to be on the first season of Chattel Zero. So we're going to be talking about. that and also also marcy is the king's own book club the spinoff to the king's own podcast is out now as well which uh marcy and uh stephen per co-host they talk about the Stephen king short stories uh word

processor word processor on the gods and uh sorry right number so that's out now as well and also we got some other episodes of the shows coming out this month as well and uh yeah so we definitely have a lot of stuff in the pipeline, but I think troma month is going to be quite a big one for us for the To be Tuesdays podcast because, I mean, it's trauma. Like, it's going to tackle as many movies we can.

And I just beat, I just want you guys know that when our trauma stuff comes out, we did not rip off your idea. We do have a trauma retrospective coming here soon. Nice. But it's coming.

It's coming. and one day if Brian and I ever finally get our shit together and watch more episodes of Hannibal the TV show Hannibal will actually finally start releasing some Patreon-only shows

right Brian? Yeah, they will come to Patreon first and eventually we'll release them to everybody else after Yeah, and look for some while we're talking about that guys look for a few re-releases over the

next couple of days. I think I'm actually going to have some free time that I can re-edit some older movies because we had a particular musical distribution company that fucked us up the ass and literally told us we can't play anything with bits, snippets of their music and got us taken off, literally taken off of our platform. So we're having to re-edit it with the music taken out. A bit of a pain in the but you know what? You know who you are out there? It looks like you're doing that to me. Not you.

Unless your name is New Yaversal, music. Okay, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can always reach the Horror Returns at gmail.com or just send an email with your name, address and how you've very first heard about our show

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And we would play that song Fire Starter. I know. Unfortunately, we'd probably get fucking taken down so we won't. See, I was going to say there's a way. I was going to say there's one way you could get around that is just sing the songs yourselves. I'm going to need a mohawk. See, they can't take it down if you sing the songs yourself. Yeah, because it's a.

cover version, right? Yeah, exactly. Exactly. Okay, so we're also going to check out the new fire starter. So, Brian, until the horror returns again? Good night.