The Horror Returns - THR - Ep. #317: Psychological Horror, Part 2 - The Crush (1993) & Fear (1996)

Episode Date: June 20, 2022

This week, we continue our dive into psychological horror, whixh seems be pretty much be a 90s thing. Cool of the Week includes Spiderhead, Obi Wan, Dashcam, and Rutherford Falls. Trailers are NOPE an...d Prey. The Podcast Spotlight shines on The Horror Countdown Podcast. And we get feedback from Don Anelli, Bill Cassinelli, G Larry Butler, Xim Vader, Lyle Huckins, Tim Davis, Steve Carleton, and Al Ramseur. WE ANNOUNCE THE WINNER FOR THE CABIN IN THE WOODS STEELBOOK. Thanks for listening! The Horror Returns Website: https://thehorrorreturns.com THR Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/thehorrorreturns THR Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thehorrorreturns/ Join THR Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1056143707851246 THR Twitter: https://twitter.com/horror_returns?s=21&t=XKcrrOBZ7mzjwJY0ZJWrGA THR Instagram: https://instagram.com/thehorrorreturns?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y= SK8ER Nez Podcast Network https://www.podbean.com/pu/pbblog-p3n57-c4166 ESP Anchor Feed: https://anchor.fm/mac-nez E Society YouTube Channel https://youtube.com/channel/UCliC6x_a7p3kTV_0LC4S10A Music By: Steve Carleton Of The Geekz

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Starting point is 00:00:10 victims. For those of you who delight and dread, who fantasize about fear, who glorify gore, welcome. You have found the place where the horror returns. Listeners beware. This podcast contains major plot spoilers. and the foulest of language. Join us in celebrating the old and the new, the best, and the worst in horror. Welcome back, everyone, to The Horror Returns. I'm Lance, and with me as always are my co-host, Brian and Philip.
Starting point is 00:01:06 And I think we might get a Primus concert review. I think Nez might jump on tonight. So we'll see how that goes. But what's up with you guys? Listen, we can't talk about why known as Big Brown Beaver. That'll get us canceled. Jesus Christ. So this is the time of year, Brian, that I think you have the weather advantage over us.
Starting point is 00:01:34 Yeah, I mean, I guess. It's kind of gloomy up here right now. It's been raining. Yeah, but gloomy is better than, like, walking outside and melting. Yeah. Yeah. cutting your feet on the blades of grass because they're so dry because it hasn't rained in three weeks. That sucks.
Starting point is 00:01:54 But, yeah, big weekend, guys. I had the granddaughter's birthday party. So we had a full crowd here last night. We've got a full crowd tonight. Yeah, man, I wanted to come. I'm sorry, I couldn't make it. Yeah, you know. Brian, why didn't you show up, man?
Starting point is 00:02:09 Just down the road. Yeah, I just didn't feel like jumping in the car and heading down the road. road. Yeah, I got you. That's got to be like three days. Oh, I heard y'all's gas prices in Alaska are even worse than here. Like here, it's like $4.50? Yeah, that's about that.
Starting point is 00:02:28 Okay. It's ridiculous. Just don't drive to California. Well. Oh, yeah. Right. I got like $6 gas prices already. Unless you got a Tesla and then you're golden.
Starting point is 00:02:43 Yeah. Although it was funny. that Nez told me that in his town, I guess, because it's a smaller town, he says they don't really have a lot of chargers. And like when I visualize California, I think there's like a charger everywhere. Like we have a gas station. So I guess we got a long way to go. Hopefully, hopefully they'll get all that shit in place, right? Yeah, maybe we should hit A before we skip straight to B.
Starting point is 00:03:10 Right. Dude, you're the electrician, dude. You might get drafted. It might go a military decision. We need people to install chargers. Fuck that. I'm not working for the government anymore. I guess my ass.
Starting point is 00:03:27 You heard it here, folks. Oh, man. First we had universal music. That's it. First, we had universal music after us. Now it's going to be the federal government. Well. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:03:41 What are you going to do? All in one time. All right. Were you guys ready for Cool of the Week? Anybody's seen anything good? I mean, I'm sure Nez's is the Primus concert. I'll start. I haven't really got a chance to watch a whole lot this week,
Starting point is 00:03:58 but last night, since we went a little late on the show, I got to watch Spiderhead on Netflix. Yeah, the Hemsworth thing, where he's like a big pharma guy. on his own doing tests in some sort of prison system. Okay. It's pretty cool. I mean, it's not, it's not blow your mind great, but it's good watch.
Starting point is 00:04:33 But you have the, I was happy with it. You have the big pharma villain or, you know, that you have to have in all these movies now or what? Yeah, kind of, but I don't know how big pharma he was. He was more independent farmer. So somewhere between your street corner crack dealer and that family did the oxy cotton or whatever, huh? Yeah, exactly. It was like if Walter White took it to the next level. I got you.
Starting point is 00:05:08 We got a great posting on the website from a friend of the show, Stephen Loblad today. of y'all or i mean on the facebook group did you all see that no yeah he's decked out happy father's day to everybody and he's uh he's decked out in his poor returns t-shirt and holding his horror returns coozy nice yeah so happy father's day back to you what's that the happy father's day back to him yeah for sure man yeah steve he's been there with us from from day one and uh we have I know we have Nes to think for that, so. Yeah, so it feels me that we actually have fans for this fucking show. Yeah, I know.
Starting point is 00:05:50 We must have been something wrong, right? Well, is that your cool of the week, Phil, or was there anything else? Yeah, man, that's about all I've watched. All right. I mean, I'm kind of up to date on Obi-Wan, and it's all right. But I don't love it. You know what? Obi-1 is actually my cool of the week, man.
Starting point is 00:06:10 Is it? Yeah. I'm three episodes. Yeah, is it cheesy at times? Yeah. Like the Princess Leah Chase scene and shit. It's kind of cool seeing. Yeah, but it's cool.
Starting point is 00:06:24 I think it's good seeing those characters filled in. Yeah. Like that time period, I think they picked a really good time period to focus on. Are you into it at all? Oh, Lance, I think we lost you. Yeah, you're back, Lance. All right, say it again. Okay.
Starting point is 00:06:44 No, I was just asking you, Brian, have you checked any of it out yet? I've seen the first episode. I'm just waiting. I'm going to binge when the season's over. But I agree with you. It's a good time period. I think if they really wanted to, they can actually spend the lay a character off into its own thing. See how she kind of...
Starting point is 00:07:04 They will. I think they will. He's a good little actress, man. I don't mean... I don't mean as a child. I mean, kind of like how she got raised into, you know, because originally wasn't she like in the Senate and all like that? Oh, yeah, I guess that's true. Plus, we've got to figure out at some point how she got all these force powers.
Starting point is 00:07:29 Right? True. Unless they retcon that, but. Oh, she may popping her way in the episode, what, eight? That's right. Yeah. But I, oh, there is a new show that. it's very intriguing on Netflix
Starting point is 00:07:46 that I started called First Kill if you guys heard of this one? The vampire lesbian love story. Yeah, the premise is really fucking original because it's basically the one girl they kind of fall in love with each other
Starting point is 00:08:03 but the one chick's a vampire and she's like she's what they call a I forgot the term they use. It's like a hereditary vampire or something like that where it's a generational thing And another one, she hasn't made her first kill yet. Yeah, that's born a vampire. She was born a vampire.
Starting point is 00:08:22 Her mom and dad are both vampires, and so she was born into it. Legacy. They called it a legacy vampire. How does that work? Is that like a Wolverine? Well, she can come out during the day and some other stuff like that. Oh, she's blamed. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:08:36 Kind of. But both parents, I think, are vampires. And so is her sister, which is interesting. but what's cool is the other character is her family is like a Van Helsing family. That's what makes the show so cool, man. So she is played. Yeah, it's kind of a young adult deal, but I'm digging it. I'm a couple episodes now.
Starting point is 00:08:57 I'm going to keep watching it. I've heard good things about him. I heard both actresses are pretty solid. Okay. I would say so, yeah. And the teenagers act like teenagers. and it's just really funny. It's not a sitcom.
Starting point is 00:09:14 It's a serious show, but it's just funny the way like her sister's like fucking over the top, like an evil, evil vampire, like doesn't care about anything, just loves to go out and kill. And her parents are both like, oh my God,
Starting point is 00:09:28 are you going to make your first kill? We're so proud of you, dear. Kind of like, it's interesting. I'm digging it. So I'll throw that in the mix too, Brian. All right. Nice.
Starting point is 00:09:40 I was going to ask you, you checked out, I was, I seen you checked out Jurassic World. Yeah, we, we, we, we took all the kids and loaded them into the car and headed down to the theater. And, uh, it was, it was a fun time. It was not a, it was definitely a check your brain at the door movie. Yeah. Um, it wasn't an A24. You didn't, you didn't go home and like, watch YouTube and like, research it and. Yeah. Um, like, um, like, Jurassic World explained.
Starting point is 00:10:13 It didn't need to do that. But it was definitely a fun time. I almost kind of wish, I will say this, if you all haven't seen it yet, consider 3D, because I wish that I had seen it in 3D. Oh.
Starting point is 00:10:25 Yeah, there's a lot of scenes where it almost seems like it was filmed with that in mind. Like a lot of stuff going on in different parts of the screen and then something jumps right at you. A lot of that kind of stuff.
Starting point is 00:10:36 But it's a tale as old as time. I like how they, They threw some feathers on more of the dinosaurs. Yeah, did you check it out? Yeah, I've seen that in the trailer. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, we watched it. Yeah? Yeah, not bad.
Starting point is 00:10:54 It was definitely better than the last one. I thought the last one sucked. Yeah, last was bad. Yeah. And, I mean, they sort of built off of that premise, but they brought back all the old characters, and it's definitely silly and cheesy, but, you know, good time going to the theater.
Starting point is 00:11:09 Good, good description. Good description. So, Brian, before you go, man, consider 3D. I mean, I don't know if you like that effect or not. Some people hate 3D. I usually don't go for it because I feel like halfway through the movie, I end up taking my glasses off. Like rubbing your eyes and...
Starting point is 00:11:30 Yeah. This one might be cool in 3D, though. That was a good idea. I might go rewatch it in 3D. We'll see how it goes. I got to help my sister move next weekend. And so I'm going to Austin. So I'll probably try to check out Black Phone, like either on the way there or early Saturday.
Starting point is 00:11:48 Catch an early show. But I'm excited about that one, guys. Yeah, I'm hearing. Great things. A lot of good things about it, especially Ethan Hawks performance. Yeah. He was the only thing I kind of liked about Moon Night. I wasn't a huge fan of Moon Night.
Starting point is 00:12:07 But he was... Yeah, it got a little silly. Silly. As it went on. Like, man, I had a lot of hopes for it after the first episode, and then it sort of spiraled out of control. Yeah. Hey, man, it's on Disney Plus, so we're going to watch it, right?
Starting point is 00:12:25 Yeah, I guess so. I've got a long list here. Before I get to my main... We were counting on that. Before I get to my main list, Phil, I think you brought this one up a couple weeks ago. The Night Eats the World. A zombie movie? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:12:43 Yeah, pretty good. Pretty good. Not a bad one. Yeah. A lot of smart choices made and a lot of dumb choices made all at the same time. Okay. I don't know if I would play the drums with my window open if zombies are sensitive to sound. I don't know if I would do that.
Starting point is 00:13:04 Yeah. I was more out of frustration. Like I said, it was kind of a. castaway but was zombies yeah okay yeah and i kind of like the um kind of fake out and not ending but there was a moment near the end kind of you thought it was one way and then it turned out it was just all in his head yeah which makes sense because he's been all by himself for god knows how long yeah yeah so that was a pretty decent but i kind of went down this rabbit hole i brought up i think last week I seen a documentary
Starting point is 00:13:41 found footage phenomenon so I just kind of went through a list of movies that I've seen of found footage movies that they brought up or directors that were in the documentary so I kind of checked out their movies
Starting point is 00:13:56 a couple of rewatches I did was found footage 3D which is on shutter you can actually play the 3D version if you got 3D glasses. Oh, really? And I also
Starting point is 00:14:13 rewatched Trow Hunter and Afflicted, which those are pretty good. Oh, yeah. I really like Afflicted. Dude, taking of Deborah Logan. Found footage movie that does not get near enough credit.
Starting point is 00:14:30 Yeah, especially the main actress that plays the older lady, Deborah. Yeah. I think that was her first horror role, I think I read. She never done anything close to that, and she was pretty awesome in that. Yeah, nailed it.
Starting point is 00:14:46 And the ones I have never heard of that I checked out, the first one was apartment 143, which there's like strange phenomenons going in the apartment, so of course, you know, they call in, like, experts, and they gave good reason why it's found footage because they had cameras set up everywhere,
Starting point is 00:15:05 and, you know, you got to have a good reason why somebody's still holding the camera. Ah, wow. Now, is that an American film? Yeah, American. Okay. Next one I checked out was Char Man. Char? It's kind of, it's weird to explain.
Starting point is 00:15:26 Like, they're filming a fake documentary about, originally they're filming one about a vampire legend in a town. but when they're talking to one of the people from the town, he starts telling him about this other local legend called Charman about a kid getting burnt or something. Oh, God. What a name? So they decide to kind of film
Starting point is 00:15:48 a fake documentary about that, but of course the more they get into it, like weird shit happens. I can't really recommend this one because it takes a real long time for stuff to start happening. Uh-huh. And then,
Starting point is 00:16:04 Yikes. And then when it happens, the payoff is not worth it. I got it. Charmian. What did you expect from a Pokemon movie? That reminds me that song, Spoon Man. You remember that? Yeah, spoilers.
Starting point is 00:16:21 I can't say there was a Charman or not. Ah. Aw. It's an older movie, you know. That's all the spoiler I needed. I don't want to watch it now. The next one I checked out is the McPherson tape, which I'm not sure if this is based off a real story,
Starting point is 00:16:41 but it's kind of a UFO abduction movie. There you go, Philip. It takes place in like the 80s, and the guy's got like a camcorder, and it's like, you know, everybody's like in awe of his new camera, and he's like filming his niece's birthday party and, you know, strange stuff starts happening.
Starting point is 00:17:02 lights. It's real low budget, but I thought it was pretty decent movie. When you see the aliens, they're obviously kids wearing alien costumes, but... But it wasn't
Starting point is 00:17:19 outcast, it wasn't the ATL ends? They put some little people in there. I thought it was decent, though. I heard it wasn't one of those micro-budget movies. So they really, and they are the one added touch I liked, they made the video look like it was actual grainy video from like the 80s. Oh, cool.
Starting point is 00:17:46 That one I think piques my interest the most of everything you've said so far. To get two more on this list. Next one is called, it was originally released as the borderlands, but in America you can find it as final prayer. Okay. And this is kind of the same premise as apartment 143, except it happens in the church. And this one, I kind of recommend you watch it at night with the lights out, because it kind of sets the atmosphere, because there's a lot of moments where they're investigating this cathedral, church, or whatever, in the dark, and finding, like, hidden tunnels that go underground.
Starting point is 00:18:27 And I thought that one was pretty decent, too. That sounds cool. but the one I checked out I think you checked this one out too Lance was uh dash cam oh god oh Jesus Christ I yeah I was on a I was on a quest for bottom 10 movies for the year
Starting point is 00:18:45 because I thought I was gonna hate this one when I first started and then when it got going it just fucking went off the rails crazy I know I it's not gonna make my bottom 10 damn it I'm so disappointed yeah it got gory It was funny. I actually read the main actress.
Starting point is 00:19:05 She got a lot of shit for the movie because... Right. In the movie, her political... Right. Those are not actually her political... She's playing her real self, but she's playing a fictional version. Those are not her real political. Like it over-the-top version.
Starting point is 00:19:23 Yeah, because I guess people were kind of getting at her on social media. Of course. Of course. That's a character I'm playing. That's not, but you know. Philip, you need to check it out, dude. It's worth a watch, actually. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:19:37 All right. She's actually pretty fucking funny, though. Oh, she's pretty funny. And Philip, she freestyles the credits at the end. She freestyles the credits? Yeah, and it's not PG lyrics either. Because she's actually riding in a car. Bruce Motherfuck's Campbell.
Starting point is 00:19:58 Yeah. Yeah, because she actually does this on YouTube for real, where she... Uh-huh. But what did she call it, Lance? A band car? Yeah, band car. She actually does that... She said the world's most popular streaming music on the road show or something.
Starting point is 00:20:13 Yeah, she actually does this in real life. No. She's watching the credits of the people that made the movie she's in, and she's like freestyling her names and... What the fuck? Wait a man. Hold on. This is a real thing?
Starting point is 00:20:27 This is a real thing? What? and all kinds of great shit, dude. Now, Brian, you're saying she really has this channel? Yeah, she's actually a musician in real life. Oh, my God. You did your homework, dude. Yeah, because I was wondering if this was, you know,
Starting point is 00:20:47 I'd never seen her before. I heard her. I thought she was pretty funny. And then that's when I found out the whole, like, people were kind of like, because in the movie, she's holding up a maga hat. And people started getting mad at her. She's like, it's a fucking character.
Starting point is 00:21:03 Yeah, in the movie, she's an anti-vaxxer. And there's a lot of, there's a lot of pandemic jokes and vaccine jokes. But I thought it was, and the effects I thought were pretty good. It's the same director that did that movie on Shutter host, the pandemic found footage movie. You've seen it, Philip. It's on Shutter. It's like an hour. in seven minutes or something post. I know
Starting point is 00:21:31 I've seen it. Where they're doing the, they're doing the seance on Zoom. Oh. Yeah, same director. Yeah. All right. Well, I won't run then. And this movie's actually like kind of close to the same runtime. It's
Starting point is 00:21:46 like an hour on 20, hour and 15. Yeah, I will admit I was watching it on my lunch break at work and it did kind of, it did drag a few times early on. Yeah. But it's the shit. kicked in, like when she went in that fish and chip shop, it was off the rails from there, like, just like you said, Brian. And I thought the, the reveal of, I'm not going to spoil it,
Starting point is 00:22:12 but the reveal of what the thing was at the end, I thought it looked really cool, and I thought the special effects were pretty cool. And yeah, the arm in the steering wheel was kind of, oh, my God. Yeah. Wow. Wow. So, uh, Yeah, that's my cool of the week. Yeah. But Lance, I agree with you. That opening, like, probably 20 minutes or so, I was like, I don't know if I can keep watching this. And then when it got going, I was like, okay, here we go.
Starting point is 00:22:44 So, yeah, Dashcan is my cool of the week. Oh, nice, nice. Okay. All right. So, okay, you're talking about this, the night eats the world. It is available on Amazon. Amazon, yeah. All right.
Starting point is 00:22:58 So adding that to the dash cam. Dash cam is out there. Okay. As Ness says, it's out there. Yes. All right. So is that it? We're done?
Starting point is 00:23:14 Yes. Yes, we'll show up. All right, that's cool. Hopefully he'll chime in later. So what's next? Ryan, get some headlines. Got any news? Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 00:23:24 I know Dallas has a big Comic Con going on. I get several Facebook friends. that are posting that they're there. A lot of wrestlers, all the Cobra Chi guys. Oh, wrestling. I thought I was going to be able to do Wrestling Returns News.
Starting point is 00:23:38 Yeah. Vince McMahon. Noddy, naughty guy. Uh-oh. What's going on? Yeah, step down as CEO. A lot of stuff going on. Allegedly, don't, don't, we got all these people
Starting point is 00:23:52 coming at us, so allegedly, allegedly, allegedly. Was it a Me Too thing? or misappropriating funds paying off a possible somebody he had an affair with around $3 million I aye aye aye
Starting point is 00:24:07 Would it really surprise you? Oh it doesn't surprise And then the allegations of I guess before he knew the news was going to break he was selling off WWE stock so there's insider trading allegations That's not good
Starting point is 00:24:22 That's not good A couple of their Him for it A couple of their biggest superstars had to bring in their lawyers to get released from the contracts because treatment of female wrestlers, well, specifically black female wrestlers, there was some treatment backstage that... All this just came out? Yeah, like the past like three weeks.
Starting point is 00:24:50 Somebody was building a dossier on this guy. The rumor is it's one of the board members. Because the W.W.E is a publicly traded company. Sure, sure. So when you're a public traded company, you can get fired from your own company. The end of an era, right? In my opinion, the way the product's been going, sell it to somebody that cares about wrestling and let it move on into the future
Starting point is 00:25:21 because it's most ridiculous. They brought Brock Lesnar back again. It's like I don't know, but it's like when they don't have an idea, they just call him up and throw some money at him, and then they have the same exact match again.
Starting point is 00:25:41 Okay. And then he'll go away. Show up. I would love. That would be something different. I am going to go buy some WWE stock right now so I can vote. I want to vote for Pedro, literally. Our man Pedro,
Starting point is 00:25:58 perfect CEO for WD. Yeah, dude. I wish a bad idea. I guarantee you turn this for a lot. All right. Spielberg, Steven Spielberg, he has some movies coming back in the theater for anniversary releases. Jaws is returning September 2nd for the first time in IMAX in Real 3D.
Starting point is 00:26:22 Oh, nice, nice. Also, E.T. is returning for the first time in iMex a real D3D August 12 and not a stupid Spielberg movie but I will be there this Wednesday
Starting point is 00:26:40 the 22nd for the thing 40th anniversary showing in theaters I heard about that theater heard about that yeah great movie okay let's move on to some TV news
Starting point is 00:26:55 Squid Game Season 2 officially happening. I was kind of waiting on that. Not a shocker there. And they also announced Netflix is also doing a Squid Game based reality game show. Which hopefully people
Starting point is 00:27:12 won't die actually. I know. Are they going to have that big doll? Red light. Green light. It's actually shooting some people. But they shoot them with baseball.
Starting point is 00:27:25 with it. I was going to say that with paintball guns instead. Yeah, that'd be perfect. Ah, fuck that. But some real fucking Star Wars lasers in that bitch and have hurt a little bit. You can always edit it a right way because I don't know if you guys ever seen that show on Netflix, the floor is lava.
Starting point is 00:27:45 Yeah. They always make the part when they fall in the water that looks like lava. They always make it seem like they sink and never come back up. Yeah. That is kind of a fun show. Yeah. Especially when somebody slams trying to jump on something.
Starting point is 00:28:04 Yeah. It was a great premise. I love it. Interesting. All right. Let's see. Chuckie, Season 2 News. Lance, we've been talking about this actress on Hannibal.
Starting point is 00:28:21 Laura Jean Chora Taurus. I probably said her name wrong. She plays the reporter. Okay, sure, yeah. She is joining the cast along with Gina Gershon. Oh, nice. Joe Pantilyoni, Joey Pants. Yep, yep.
Starting point is 00:28:41 Jennifer Tilly's sister, Meg Tilly, is joining the cast. Nice. So. So it's a certified hit, man. Yeah, the... Anna Ford, Jennifer Tilly. Go get her sister. And I didn't write it.
Starting point is 00:28:58 Yeah, I didn't write it down her name. But she's like one of those housewife shows. I guess she's like Jennifer Tilly's like best friend. She's also, she's also in the cast, too. Give me a lesbian. Is she like a producer or something? What the fuck? I know she's a lesbian love scene and be okay.
Starting point is 00:29:20 I know she's good friends with Don Mancini. Oh, okay. Well, that makes sense. I bet. She's real good friends. with him. Yeah, we got a guest. What's up? Is this Winona's Big Brown Beaver?
Starting point is 00:29:37 All right, well, there we go. Black Christmas. Oh, throw that shit away. Fucking Christ. Wine is. You're sailing on the seas of cheese, man. Literally.
Starting point is 00:29:57 Uh-oh. You there, Nez? We got no audio. So everybody's listening and they're like, what the fuck is going on? There we go. There is. there we go. Yeah, this question. Why is that movie in reach all the time? All these are in reach.
Starting point is 00:30:18 It's like Black Christmas, boom. It's like right here somewhere. That's the only displays. Before we get in the news, finish news, you got cool the week. Yeah, Rutherford Falls, season two came back. Sir. I'm like, I'm only three in. It's awesome.
Starting point is 00:30:38 show. I guess AMC's Dark Winds. I like the actors and everybody in it. It's just me being from the Navajo Nation, not from there,
Starting point is 00:30:55 but a part of that tribe. Yeah. You can tell who who's Navajo. Because the language is really hard to do if you're learning.
Starting point is 00:31:08 And I'll give it to Zahn and everyone that learned how to do it. But their pronunciation of it all, it sounds weird. I mean, they're getting their points across, but a lot of people that don't know, they're just taking it for what it is. But the show, it's cool so far. I think the third episode comes out tonight. And I like what's happening. I'm not digging the, I don't know if it's a green screen,
Starting point is 00:31:38 background or whatever, but some of it looks kind of cheesy, but, um, I mean, I like what's happening. And I know some people, some people are out there mad that, why can't, um, why aren't native writers
Starting point is 00:31:54 writing this and all this? I understand that, but this is based off of Tony Hillerman's stories. So, uh, what, what can you do? I mean, they, they got that. I mean, they got all the, the native actors in it. So that's, that's awesome.
Starting point is 00:32:10 But I understand both sides. Me, I'm in the middle. I'm like, just make it good. Yeah. Is it a slow burn, Ness? That's really the point. It's just drama, police drama. Yeah, but it has super natural element, right?
Starting point is 00:32:27 A little bit. I mean, I don't want to get into it, but it's, I mean, for some people that don't think so, that's just real. I don't care what anybody says. So I'm like, I just got to watch what I say about it. And hopefully the people that are, excuse me, that are part of this are realizing that they need to watch what they do and what they say regarding to some of the stuff that's going on. Maybe some listeners like, oh, no, that's bullshit. Well, all right, man, I don't want to be a part of that shit. I understand what's going on in the story.
Starting point is 00:33:05 and I remember I read the first book they did make a movie and when you think of Native Americans you always got to go to Lou Diamond Phillips he was in the he was the sheriff or the tribal police ridded in the movie that movie it was what it was
Starting point is 00:33:25 it was hell slow but it was all right but I like what's going on like Native actors you know like Yellowstone like yeah all their Native Americans Americans are not Native American at all.
Starting point is 00:33:39 Some people are like, why don't they get real Navajos? There is a lot of Navajo actors, but some people have to think that you got to get who's big. Like, Zahn, he was big in Longmire. He was big in Dr. Sleep. He's been in a lot of movies. What was that other show? Oh, Reservation Dogs, he's huge in that show now. Everybody shows up in that, man.
Starting point is 00:34:09 The Cambios are the single episodes of Reservation Dogs. I was like, what the fuck? It seems like everyone's going in this, out of the three shows that are on, Dark Winds, Reservation Dogs, and Rutherford Falls, they're all going in this triangle, all the actors. There's a lot of actors from each show on all three shows. So I like what's going on.
Starting point is 00:34:33 The little, uh, the one chick. this like the leader of the Indian mafia and Res Dogs, she's in Dark Winds and she's got a big part in the story. So I like what she's doing. She spoke a little Navajo and she kind of
Starting point is 00:34:48 got the dialect, but she she's kind of doing the both, the Navajo and the English. So, but for what it is, I'm enjoying it. Hopefully it'll just get good and give us more, but I don't know. We'll see. But Rutherford Falls is back.
Starting point is 00:35:03 You don't sound convinced, man. Well, I mean, it's convinced, as It's just a story. I mean, Tony Hillerman's stories, I mean, they're like, to me, my opinion,
Starting point is 00:35:15 kind of real and bullshit. So, okay. I don't know what they're doing. And the only way, the reason I'm saying bullshit is because it was a white writer. And he doesn't really know.
Starting point is 00:35:28 He, I'm sure he knows some. And I'm, I'm sure some people did tell them to, hey, man, you can't write that. So, but.
Starting point is 00:35:35 I don't know, but it's a show with, um, it's highlighting a lot of native actors right now. So I'm cool with it. And it's got, um, the hell was that fool's name? He was Lysol in, uh, Blood Quant. Oh, God, my favorite character in that movie. Yeah, he was badass in that movie. Um, he was also, he was in one episode of Res Dogs. He got killed by the deer woman.
Starting point is 00:36:01 Oh, man, someone screaming his name. I can't remember his name. But anyway, he, he's, uh, one of the main characters in it um i like uh have you guys watched any of it no for some reason i can't i think i got used to binge in shows if it if it's not all at once i i just i can't watch week to week yeah i that's why i tapped out on dexter i was only watching that because julia jones was on it and she's hot so but i got to go back and finish it I kind of got sucked into that
Starting point is 00:36:36 whatever that last Dexter one was, but for what it is, it's good to me. I mean, I like seeing that they're highlighting a lot of native actors out there that are doing it, but I don't know. We'll see how it goes. But Rutherford Falls, hell funny. That whole season is up.
Starting point is 00:36:53 But the three shows that's, well, Rutherford Falls, Dark Winds is going right now. Res Dogs comes back in shit, soon. I know that. I was going to say September, but that's the next Cobra Kai. That comes out in September.
Starting point is 00:37:09 Oh, jeez, man. That's what I'm waiting. That's what I'm waiting for. But I have not dabbled, dived into Stranger Things yet, so I have no idea what's happening there. Ah, it's good. It's good.
Starting point is 00:37:24 Yeah. I got so much other shows that I just started the old man that's on Hulu. Oh, Jeff Bridges. Yeah, I've seen that. Those first two episodes were badass. I'm in. All right. Yeah, I'm all in on that show.
Starting point is 00:37:38 I love Jeff Bridges, man. Yeah, and me and Naz are old man, so it kind of makes sense. But that shows, I started that yesterday. I think there's only two episodes up right now. I'm not really sure when the next one comes out, but I'm in on that show. Yeah, I guess I had three cool the weeks, but yeah, that's it. Nice. All right. Probably Rutherford Falls is you're digging the most right now, right? Yeah, it's just hilarious.
Starting point is 00:38:08 Cool. All right. All right, back to the news. Next Ghostbusters movie is officially greenlit. Ah, okay. Pretty, pretty happy on that happening. A lot of people didn't think it was going to happen, but it is happening. Is it all the kids?
Starting point is 00:38:31 I don't know. I know what's his? name that directed is coming back to write and directed. Ah, okay. Very nice. Yeah. Hopefully it'll be, it'll be as good or almost as good as the one that surprised us. You got to get the old guys in there.
Starting point is 00:38:53 You think so? Yeah. That means you got to, you got to go through all that headache with Bill Murray again, trying to get him to do it. Right. Yeah, but Bill Murray. Yeah, but he's got some stuff going on. Yeah, right.
Starting point is 00:39:11 I think they need to just stick with those kids. Yeah. Because those kids are what saved Ghostbusters, in my opinion. I mean, I guess. But like, if they're going to just stick with the kids, then why not make a movie that's not Ghostbusters? Well, they were Ghostbusters, technically. I mean, maybe bring Winston back since he's...
Starting point is 00:39:32 I mean, at least have to bring Winston back. Yeah. been paying for the building and if at least he's in it I'm happy bring Rick Moranus back oh yeah that'd be great so bring the girls back I like that one I liked that one bring back Kate McKinnon too yeah I I go for that and Thor it was hell of funny on that movie oh speaking of Thor I was watching I talked about in the last East Society it was Butterhead Interceptor.
Starting point is 00:40:08 I think that's what it is. Oh, with his wife. Oh. Is that who it is? That's his wife? Yeah. Oh, it was, I don't know. I just remember that chick from Fast and Furious, the one that was banging Dom.
Starting point is 00:40:20 Yes, Mrs. Thor. Really? I didn't know that. Oh, that's why he, that's why he was a producer. Yeah, probably. Yeah, he even made a cameo in it. He popped in there. He was like a TV salesman.
Starting point is 00:40:33 Oh, geez. I think they've been married for like 10 years or something. Oh, really? It was what it was. I enjoyed it. That's heartwarming. Dude, Chris Hemsworth is becoming my new favorite guy. He's fucking hilarious in everything that he does.
Starting point is 00:40:50 Just wait until his Hulk Hogan movie comes out. Oh, that's right. That can be awesome. You think he's going to go bald? I hope. He's going to have to. He's got. on fat, why not go bald, right?
Starting point is 00:41:06 No, I mean, like, actually bald. Like, have the haircut. Yeah. He shaved his head for that last one. The Ragnarok? Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. All right, let's
Starting point is 00:41:21 see what else we got. Do we need another sleepy Hala movie? Because that's in development. With Johnny Yep? No. Oh, then no. More like poopie hollow, huh? Wasn't there a TV show?
Starting point is 00:41:40 Yeah, the first season was actually pretty good, and then, uh, spoilers, they killed off them. They killed off a main character. I forgot about that show. They killed off a main character, and then it got fucking stupid. Yeah. Like, the first season or two was good, and then it, sure. Did the same thing that all those fucking WB TV shows do and got. crazy and didn't make any sense.
Starting point is 00:42:09 Well, they all can't be Smallville or Supernatural. Well, it did it too. Like I like Smallville. The first couple seasons were amazing. Smallville never jumped the shark. What do you talk?
Starting point is 00:42:19 All 10 years. All 10 years. Yeah, they did. They jumped it right from the beginning. But they had a little more complicated than they needed to get, man. They had the real, like it got a little convoluted towards the end.
Starting point is 00:42:30 The Supernatural have like 52 seasons or something. Yeah, I think that's the longest show. I've never actually watched that one. Yeah, Brian said they're doing a prequel. Yeah, the Winchesters, I guess they're based off characters or something in the show. I don't know. I've never seen any of the episodes.
Starting point is 00:42:50 I couldn't get into it because the, not the Pad Lecky guy, the other dude, he was an asshole in Smallville. Right. Yeah, I couldn't get into it. I said, he's in it. So I've said this before. If I see a character or an actor in the first role that I've seen him in and they're an asshole, that's all I'll see him as. So, I mean, like, what's his name?
Starting point is 00:43:17 Voldemort, that guy. I don't see him as that fucking shit old Nazi. That's all I see him in. But he's an amazing actor. He usually does play a bad guy, though, right? I don't even, like, for real know what he looks like. I'd have to, like, see pictures and go, oh, yeah. I did like him in a Red Dragon.
Starting point is 00:43:40 He kind of looks more like that in real life, without the scar on his lip. Yeah. Let's see. Jordan Peel, his next movie, is going to be a sports-themed horror movie called Goat. So he went from Nope to Goat. Yep.
Starting point is 00:44:03 As in greatest of all time, Yep. Interesting. And I believe the sport is going to be football. Okay. About Jim Plunkett? He's the greatest of all time. That Doug Flutie?
Starting point is 00:44:22 Or Joe Montana. Joe Montana. Joe Montania? Yeah. I said Joe Montania. All right. Scream news. Neb Campbell.
Starting point is 00:44:35 confirm she is not returning which I am happy let's stop bringing back the old characters yeah well they killed off the two best ones the Jamie Kennedy and David Arquette
Starting point is 00:44:50 spoiler you guys see the last one oh shit yeah it's just in a year old we shouldn't be saying that now all we need to do is kill off Courtney Cox we're good oh god well she don't bring those bangs back from was a three that she had the bangs.
Starting point is 00:45:06 Yeah, that was a great movie, though. Oh, no. She'll come back as a robot. You know, I actually, I don't, don't ask me why, but I rewatch that movie. And did you guys notice her hair kept changing? No. It must have been a wig. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:45:22 Like the color was changing and, um... No. Their, their skin color was changing, because I guess they took a break during filming to go on a vacation. they came back, Tanner. There's some scenes where they're Tanner, and then they go back. That's cool. She really is a hell of a budget.
Starting point is 00:45:44 But, yeah, Neff Campbell will not return, and they said Scream 6 will now take place in New York City. Oh. Jason takes characters from the TV show. Jason goes to, Ghostface goes to Manhattan,
Starting point is 00:45:58 Nez. Yeah. See, the first two seasons or season three? Oh, first two. That season three was garbage. I tapped out. I was like, this is not Scream. You don't want to see Tyga?
Starting point is 00:46:11 No. The rapper? Nigna. I like him as a rapper. Jenna Ortega also teases Scream 6 will be more goryer, and we will have the most violent ghost face we've seen. Nice. All right. So.
Starting point is 00:46:28 I'm in. And Kirby's coming back. I think we talked about that. Hayden Panetieri. So everything. I'm hearing I'm liking. That's the news. Oh, wait, one more cool of the week. I was up in Bend, Oregon earlier this week. And I went to the last blockbuster. Blackbuster, I saw that, man.
Starting point is 00:46:51 It's a real thing? It's basically just blockbuster with, if you guys saw the documentary, there was some movie member bailey that the company sent them and they have their own stuff that they sell or t-shirts, sweatpants, jumpsuits and what have you.
Starting point is 00:47:10 So it was like right down the street from our hotel. Nice. Zisu and Jade and Liz, we all went up there for a concert and we had to go there. It was neat because you could see who were the tourists and who were the people
Starting point is 00:47:28 that actually went there that were renting movies and bringing movies back. So I thought, that was really cool. And just going in there, just seeing it, all the nostalgia coming back of Friday and Saturday nights. Oh, yeah. Or reminded me of being sick and just had enough power to go down to blockbusters to rent hell of movies or video games and then sit at home play. But it was cool to go in there.
Starting point is 00:47:53 I mean, it was blockbuster. So it was really cool. We were like in there. We stayed in there for a while. and it was cool I bought some things I was about to buy movies but I didn't realize
Starting point is 00:48:07 they had all their own little merchandise in there so I put that movie down and Zisu bought a movie he bought Vertical Limit on VHS on VHS Oh wow
Starting point is 00:48:17 Damn We're gonna do a A t-shirt or what He bought that and a couple of other things I got a t-shirt for my son I got a bumper sticker I got a magnet for the fridge and a little tote bag
Starting point is 00:48:31 nice so oh and I also got I don't have my wallet and I got a blockbuster card so oh I still have my original one yeah Theo had his original one still in his wallet I still love late fees yeah me too
Starting point is 00:48:50 it was cool I mean if you guys are ever in the Bend organ area definitely go in there I mean just go in there and check it out I mean again once you walk in the door, all that, all those good memories of renting movies or even sometimes going in there for hours and leaving with nothing because you couldn't decide. I never left with nothing.
Starting point is 00:49:12 It was cool. It was cool to go in there. The lady that owned it wasn't there. It was just her other worker that said she comes in every other day. So, but it was really cool. There was a lot of stuff in the back that they had on the walls. I know there was something from whoever played. Toxy and Toxic Avenger 2
Starting point is 00:49:32 They had a Kevin Smith Clerk's poster back there Signed by him And I think a few other people from the movie Okay Was it what's his name? Toxic Avenger Um
Starting point is 00:49:46 Martial arts dude No Spawn In the second one? He was in one of them He was in the second film But only in the beginning Oh okay
Starting point is 00:49:56 I don't think he was Toxy, but it was cool. It was just really awesome to go in there. I mean, if we ever go back up there again, I don't know if we ever need to go back to Bend, Oregon, but I'd like to go in there again and pick up some more things because we were on a budget this trip. So I just grabbed a couple things. I said, I got to leave with something. I didn't want to come in and just look and then leave. So I wanted to support the blockbuster. So I just bought some of their own stuff. that they make but if you guys haven't seen that documentary i believe it was on netflix um just check out the last blockbuster and it was awesome pretty good you're cool the week's not uh wwee firing sasha banks so we don't have to see her no more listen to stupid music uh i don't know about that was i had some a d someone else is going to pick her hey sorry everyone we haven't did um hell in the cell i was all over the place and then some personal things in life are going on and uh i don't even remember what I watched in hell in the cell anyway.
Starting point is 00:51:00 Oh, well, really? Ladies and gentlemen, boys and girls, children, all right? Welcome to the wrestling returns. Oh, we got to really quick. We got to talk about Cody Rhodes. Dude, that was rough when he took his jacket off and you saw that bruise.
Starting point is 00:51:16 I thought, I was like, this is the best makeup job I ever seen, and then you come to find out it's real, like, yeah, like his whole peck going down his arm was purple. because he tore a peck but he still wanted to because he was the main event so he wanted to do that before he you know took his leave to recover but it it looked nasty it was a good match man he he went for it he did not hold back and but you could see every time he raises his arm or everyone he was just trying to just do moves i mean i was just like uh yeah i thought it was fake at first but i had to do some research and they said nah that that was real. Real deal, huh? Yeah, man.
Starting point is 00:52:00 I was like, this, this makeup is not coming off. No. Yeah, torn bicep and torn peck, man. There are some pretty wicked injuries. I can't imagine him
Starting point is 00:52:14 continuing. I mean, much less lift your arm. I was, I was like, how is he doing this, man? I mean, uh, that's why he's the American, that's why he's the American a nightmare.
Starting point is 00:52:29 I need to bring back Star Dust for, uh, he said, no. Is that gold dust? Hey, it, his brother, play a, play a version of him. And I guess when he came back to WWE, it's in his contract
Starting point is 00:52:45 that no, he's not. No star dust. Oh, interesting. Okay. Yeah, that shit was nuts. Yeah, that's all. So, so you're saying wrestling is real then because that that was a real injury.
Starting point is 00:53:01 There's been some pretty nasty injuries. What was it? Biggie earlier this year, broke his neck. Oh, yeah. Ouch. You saw that when he landed right on the kid. Live on TV. Yeah.
Starting point is 00:53:14 That's rough. And somebody just got hurt too recently. I can't remember. But yeah, it's a rough, rough game. Fake, really. at the same time. Live fast, die young, right? You got to
Starting point is 00:53:33 not only rely on yourself, but you've got to rely on the other people to safely do the move. Oh, yeah, broke his foot. Yeah, CM Punk is out for a while. Won the championship, same night, broke his foot. I know. Had to have
Starting point is 00:53:48 it surgically repaired. I think they had to do the screws thing and Ouch But I got to get an ad flag, man He'll be back I mean For all you skateboarders out there
Starting point is 00:54:05 Tony Hawk broke his His leg Whatever that upper bone is Up at the top Oh, okay Yeah, this was a couple months ago Like the femur? Yeah
Starting point is 00:54:15 It was right It was right after Yeah That documentary came out He was just doing Just doing what he was doing I saw the video. Right.
Starting point is 00:54:25 It was brutal, man. He slammed hell on a trick that he's done a billion times. It wasn't something hard. He wasn't like trying to do the 900 again. But anyway, he retired that move, everyone. If you guys didn't, spoiler alert, if you don't watch the documentary. He's no spring chicken either, man. It's going to take longer to heal.
Starting point is 00:54:44 I guess they got it back together good. And then the doctor just said, well, you don't need a cast or anything. Just got to stay off it. and he was posted video slowly as him skating, but like just rolling around. But the other day I saw a video, and he's back on the vert ramp, busting out tricks.
Starting point is 00:55:04 I'm like, dude. What he does, man. Although, I mean, he's pretty lanky to begin with. So, I mean, that's a weird bone to break. Yeah, he's got,
Starting point is 00:55:16 he's got nothing to prove. He, see, he is a really, a real skateboarder. He just, loves skateboarding. Right. It's what he does. Yeah. So...
Starting point is 00:55:26 We're going to get back on there. It's what he loves doing. Some people are like, oh, well, he just needs that check again. He don't need your check. Yeah. If you guys watch that documentary on how much money he made from just a video game? Yeah. Uh-uh. He ain't hurting. He's just hurt from that leg. But he ain't hurting. Just do, like, commentary on skateboarding. Is that a thing? Yeah. Plus he's getting those residual checks for gleaming a cube.
Starting point is 00:55:50 Yep. Oh, wow. That's going way back. That came back to streaming, so I'm sure all of them are getting big checks. Probably like 37 cent checks. Hey, they add up. They add up.
Starting point is 00:56:08 All right. Trail Park. Yeah. You're ready to go down now? Yeah. Where are the hell do you remember? All right. Oh, man, these are good.
Starting point is 00:56:16 I was excited to hear what you thought, Jeff. All right. What you got, Ryan? First one, we are going to start off with us, Prey. Predator prequel. Quick synopsis. The origin story of the predator in the world of the Comanchee Nation 300 years ago,
Starting point is 00:56:38 Nauru, a skilled female warrior, fights to protect her tribe against one of the first highly evolved predators to land on Earth. This stars... Let me see if I get these names right, Amber Mid Thunder, Dane, not Dane Dahan. Dane Dahligro,
Starting point is 00:57:00 Harlan, Blaine, Kauai Haute Hat, Dakota Beavers, and others. This is directed by Dan Trackenberg, who has done 10 Cloverfield Lane. He's directed episodes of the boys in Black Mirror.
Starting point is 00:57:16 Okay. What did you guys think? Actually, let's start with you, Phil, because you didn't even know what this movie was. No, I didn't. I clicked on the link, and I was watching it. I was like, oh, okay, I guess this looks cool, like, Revenant, but a chick. And then, like, I saw the three little dots on her head.
Starting point is 00:57:35 Yes. And I was like, oh, my God, is this a Predator movie? That's when it clicked for me. And I remember Brian talking about it. And then it kept going, and they showed, like, the silhouette of the predator. And I was like, all right, they made it. a decent movie and put a predator in it is what it looks like to me. I'm excited about this one. It looks cool.
Starting point is 00:57:57 Yeah, this one's going to be straight to Hulu, and I thought some of the effects were pretty good. Oh, dude, that does it. That bear looked pretty good. Yeah. That whole scene with the bear chasing her and then getting killed by the predator and just being lifted in the air. I can't believe this is straight to Hulu. This is totally a movie I would go watching the theater. It's streaming wars, ma'am.
Starting point is 00:58:19 Don't you want a South Park? Come on. Yeah, Hulu got Predator, Hulu got Hellraiser, and there's something else that Hulu got. And Netflix, they got Cobur Kai coming, and that's it after that. Yeah, they're about to get canceled after the Kobe Kai, man. They don't have enough stuff. Netflix has the Umbrella Academy coming back. They got stranger things.
Starting point is 00:58:43 They still got some good properties. Peacott got Firestarter. All right. What's McCulles on Peacock? I've been meeting and check it out. Ambulance. Oh, you didn't watch that yet? No, not yet.
Starting point is 00:59:02 Amber. I liked it. It was good. Did it need to be that long? No. It was like a three-hour movie, right? It was over two hours. I remember that.
Starting point is 00:59:11 Did it have the Michael Bay explosions where it looks like fireworks shooting off everywhere? Yeah, it had that, his camera work, that Lowe's 3D. 360 camera work he always does um does somebody say the shit's getting real i don't remember they they went for it with the drones with the drone camera work and i i thought one shot was amazing it doesn't spoil anything but it was coming they were racing and uh the the drone was rolling really low and this cop car jumped over it and the the drone went right under
Starting point is 00:59:46 it and kept on so uh it is what it is it is. I mean, but I enjoyed it. I thought it was a good movie. I mean, but it didn't need to be as long as it was. But drone pilot could be a job right now. How crazy is that? Sure it is. Yeah. Well, they got those self-driving cars, but I don't know if I want to get in one.
Starting point is 01:00:05 Yeah. I saw the videos. I mean, they were safe. They were safe, but I don't know. After an episode of Silicon Valley, I'm not getting a no self-driving car. Dude, I'll take a self-driving car any day over driving with my wife. are driving after about 12 beers
Starting point is 01:00:25 all right niz what did you think of prey all right um shout out to everyone that's in it they got a real native actor so i'm cool with that some people were mad that uh they're speaking english but it's it's it's yeah i would have went with subtitles
Starting point is 01:00:47 but they said there's I'm glad they did it. There's a There's a version when they're speaking just Comanchee. But I don't know is it just the movie that we're going to see and it's dubbed
Starting point is 01:01:01 because I don't like when they do that. You get a mixture in the trailer you get a mixture because when she's talking to the dog she's not speaking English. I want to know did they shoot it the whole thing in English and then shoot it again
Starting point is 01:01:16 in Comanchee. So I don't know. I'm sure that's a pretty penny to do but I don't know yeah in the trailer she does say something I don't speak that language so I don't know what she said but it's I I'm hoping my fingers across
Starting point is 01:01:31 it they shot it twice but reality I'm sure that's a lot of money I don't know if they did it's Disney money but I don't know when was the the last good predator movie I know I like the
Starting point is 01:01:45 I like the Adrian Brony one oh I love that one Yeah, I wasn't bad. I've liked all of them. I even like the AVP ones. Me too. They need to make that third one because the way the second one ended, I want more. I didn't care for the last one.
Starting point is 01:02:05 I had fun with it. They were silly. It was silly, but I had fun with it. Yeah. You're a super predator? I did. I didn't bother me. This is the Boyd Holbrook or whatever his name was, the band guy.
Starting point is 01:02:18 He's horrible. No doubt about it. He's horrible. He's a supporting actor at best. He's not a star. And at the end, when they brought out that predator killer suit, Arnold should have showed up at the end. Yes. Like, I'm wearing that. Not you.
Starting point is 01:02:37 It wouldn't have made any sense at all, but who cares? But I assume if they're going with the predator lore, this must be a hot summer. whatever, wherever part of America they're going to be at. So I don't know. I mean, there's plenty of hot places. Should have Predator in Vegas in the summertime. That's just hell of hot down there.
Starting point is 01:03:02 I don't even go to Vegas. Vegas and Native American times was just a fucking desert. Yeah, nowhere to run. No casinos to jump into. Oh, man. Nowhere. But I'm excited. I'm excited for one that.
Starting point is 01:03:20 When I first heard about it, I thought that was cool. And then when the posters came out, and then when that teaser popped out, and now this full trailer, I'm in. Of course, I'm going to watch it. I've seen all the other Predator films. So I can't keep me away from this one. So I'm in.
Starting point is 01:03:36 This looks better than the others to me. I hope so. We'll see. This to me looks like the first real fucking predator movie. Don't over-send, your expectations, though? I mean, I probably am, but like, I love Predator, too. Yeah. You know, Danny Glover? That was great. Did you do that one? Not yet. You know, I got to keep checking on movies we do, because I forget.
Starting point is 01:04:04 We did the first one, didn't we? Yeah, I think so. Okay. She had to remember. But this one looks a little like that, like they just take Predator, stick him in a different time period. Yeah. And then have a badass movie based off of that. Yeah, and they said the Predator, because we didn't really get a good look. They said it's going to be slightly different looking because this was 300 years in the past. Oh, okay. So.
Starting point is 01:04:34 Okay. I'm with it. Yeah. I liked everything I've seen, and I liked a director. So, yeah, August 5th on Hulu. All right. Yes. And I think it might be getting a select theater release too.
Starting point is 01:04:51 I'd like to see this one. Might make a trip to the theater for that one. Yeah. I won't come to my area. Yeah, at first I thought I didn't put two and two together, Brian. I hadn't remembered you talking about this being the predator prequel. And I thought it was just another animal attack movie too. I thought, oh, here's another Kujo.
Starting point is 01:05:09 We've got Kujo with a lion coming out with Idris Elba. And now we've got Kujo with a bear. but yeah no my heart skipped to beat. It just protect his family. My heart skipped a beat, man. When I saw when I saw the laser show up on the forehead I'm like, yes, that's what this is.
Starting point is 01:05:28 I really wish this came out how not a great movie, but just an example, how that last Blair Witch came out, how nobody knew it was a Blair Witch movie until the trailer came out. So imagine we didn't know this was a Predator movie until that part of the trailer when the three red dots popped up. It worked for me and Philip.
Starting point is 01:05:49 Yeah. You've forgotten. That's what I'm saying, man. Like, I had no idea this was a thing. And then I watched the trailer and was like halfway through it. And I was like, oh, it looked pretty cool. And then those fucking lasers showed up. And I was like, oh, my God.
Starting point is 01:06:03 Is this what I think is? It was a great moment. All right. moving on to our final trailer which is the final trailer for Jordan Peel's Nope which I just on YouTube seen the TV spot
Starting point is 01:06:21 and they said nope like 15 times in the trailer Yeah That seems excessive I don't know why they didn't say it in the first one That's a lot of note Yeah I guess that's that scene in the first one where she's like nah no no no
Starting point is 01:06:36 Like in the new one She's like no no Are these aliens? Because they're shown, to me, they're showing too much. Yeah, that's what I was saying. I wish I hadn't seen this. I think they showed us all this because it's going to be, it's going to be like his other movies.
Starting point is 01:06:54 It's going to be something that we didn't expect coming. I know, and I've got a theory. I've got a working theory. Let's hear it. All right, so here's what I think. I think it's going to be a take on colonialism. I think that the aliens were actually here first, and they're trying to take back the world
Starting point is 01:07:13 that was theirs. Maybe. I don't know. I mean, that would be a good twist, right? Yeah, but I think you're right, though, on that they showed maybe a little too much on this. Like, I'm excited for this movie. I was already excited for this movie.
Starting point is 01:07:30 Jordan Peel, you've pretty much got me. And then just like the previews that they've had before this seemed pretty awesome, and they definitely alluded to aliens. So that's obviously the direction that you're headed in, so it can't be actually what it is. And I'm sure that they're going to do that in the movie. I think you're exactly right. They're going to slip the rug right out from underneath this.
Starting point is 01:07:58 They're going to drag us in one direction, and then that's not really what happened. We're in an hem-night Shama on it. Yeah. Even better, I was going through IMDV. I did not know he was in the cast, but a one Keith David, not David Keith, is in the movie. That's the good one, right? Okay.
Starting point is 01:08:19 Yes. Not the one that allegedly, according to Lance at one point in time, killed his father. All right. Yeah, no, I'm still excited about it. but I do agree that even if they're pushing for that wrong direction, I think they showed too much in the trailer. I do too.
Starting point is 01:08:47 Yeah, I wish I hadn't seen it. I wish I had said nope to that second trailer. But they, I mean, that seems to be the trend lately. Yeah. I just think that what they showed is when we come,
Starting point is 01:09:00 when we watch the movie, it's not going to affect what we see in a movie. Probably. Well, all right. I have faith in Jordan. I think he knows what he's doing. Yeah, that's true.
Starting point is 01:09:14 All right. He's smart enough to not let that happen. Yeah. July 22nd. So it is on our schedule, so we will be reviewing it. Are you in, Naz? What was that? I'm sorry.
Starting point is 01:09:31 Are you in for nope? Yeah, why not? Did you guys do dash cam? Oh, we just talked about it. Oh, did you? What did you guys? Pretty good. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:09:41 Thumbs up. I liked it. The ending was good. The beginning, it took a while. Yeah. That's what Brian said. It took a while to get going. I almost tapped out.
Starting point is 01:09:52 And then when it happened and we got arms stuck in steering wheels and other things going on. Right. People shitting themselves and all that. Yes. Yeah. What? once it got going it was good all the way to
Starting point is 01:10:12 the end it was just to the beginning I was like really that's what we're going that's what we're doing now and the ending was cool during the when the credits were rolling I thought that was cool now that both of you all have talked about it I have to watch it it's not very long
Starting point is 01:10:30 an hour and 20 minutes maybe maybe but it was good it was worth watching and it was there was some parts that were creepy. I mean, there was one scene when she was crawling out of the water and something happened in the background.
Starting point is 01:10:45 I kind of went, whoa. But I liked it. I thought it was good. It just took a minute to get going. And like I was talking about found footage movies, they had for the most part,
Starting point is 01:11:01 a good reason why there was a camera because she does her little YouTube channel. So she had camera like mounted on her head which I like it was like a clip on the bill of her yeah you gotta see this movie man I yeah
Starting point is 01:11:18 sounds like I definitely gonna watch it and like I said don't don't like I said before don't don't skip the credits yeah you gotta watch it all the way for me you gotta you gotta hear all the the people that help make the movie and yeah
Starting point is 01:11:33 the um the thing the only thing I had the issue with it It's not with just this movie, with every found footage movie. You're running for your life, but oh, let me grab the camera or let me grab the phone and run with it. I'm like, really? Welcome to 2022. I'm like, really? Do you need it? And you're hiding. It's not in just this movie. It's plenty of the other found footage movie. You're trying to hide for someone coming to kill you, but you don't turn the light off. I mean, there was times that this chick turned it off,
Starting point is 01:12:07 But majority of the time, sh be quiet as a light. I'm like, come on. No, I used to seem ridiculous. Not so much now. But yeah, it's definitely worth checking out. Check it out. All right.
Starting point is 01:12:23 All right. Let's roll on over to listener feedback. This week, the podcast spotlight shines on the horror countdown podcast. It's the horror countdown. A horror podcast picking a certain topic and counting down a top 10 list every episode. Good idea. Year and views, genres, director rundowns, franchise retrospectives, and much more. This week, our friend Donanelli, hey, he's Donnie.
Starting point is 01:13:03 Says, I'm joined by my old friend from my horror mafia podcast days. Senilely. Yeah. All right. To look at the always fun topic of films you like that no one else does. Dive in and enjoy. Oh, that'll be a contentious episode. That sounds fun.
Starting point is 01:13:22 And speaking of the podcast, we have some more feedback. G. Larry Butler says Frankenstein versus the creature from the Blood Cove. Frankenstein versus the creature from Blood Cove. Okay. It won Best Feature Award in 2006 at the World Horror Festival. You can see it for free on YouTube on the William Winkler channel, and Don replies nice. I'll definitely look out for it. You guys ever seen that? Uh-uh. Frankenstein versus Creature from... I mean, it sounds interesting.
Starting point is 01:13:58 It sounds great, huh? I'll watch it. And Zim Vader is back, of course. Of course. and he has lots of questions for us this week. Uh-oh. Listening to the recent show raised a question that had often wondered in the past. Do Americans hate the word cunt?
Starting point is 01:14:18 Yes. But we're secretly jealous, so we can't say it. Absolutely. I know my wife hates it. I think it's fucking fantastic, dude. When I hear, like, Australian people and they just, like, spew the word cunt every, like, they use it like we use the word fuck. It sounds fantastic. I love it. But no, definitely not as culturally acceptable.
Starting point is 01:14:48 Also, can you help me understand something about fan films? We can't get a new Friday the 13th movie due to legal issues with the rights, but there's a plethora of fan films being made. Are those allowed to be made? Or are those allowed to be made? They just because they're non-for-profit, like it's, like people don't fuck with them. Exactly. As long as you call it a fan film or a parody, you're good. Universal music, we're talking to you.
Starting point is 01:15:18 We were just doing parodies of your fucking songs. Jesus Christ. Because those are never-hike-alone movies? The intellectual properties are complicated. Go ahead. The never-hike-alone ones, those are fucking awesome. I can't wait for the next one. I think I'll love them.
Starting point is 01:15:35 You and Brian both. they're hell of good i mean for just uh well i helped them make the second one um yeah i i pay for the blue ray set that they're putting out i gotta buy all of them again i i just wanted to support so they were putting out like a box set of the the whole one plus the the new one that's coming up so because i got the first two and my name's in the credits and the second one and i assume my name, my credit, my name will be in the third one as well. What is this now? Never hike
Starting point is 01:16:10 alone. You never seen those? Never hike alone. No, I've never seen it. They're on YouTube. Yeah, never hike alone, never hike alone in the snow. All right. They are really good. All right of the 13th fan all four of us will be in the credits for the next
Starting point is 01:16:27 in the search of darkness or documentary. No kidding. Yeah. What? Well, we'll have to check that out. That sounds a bad idea. Oh, speaking of being credited, did the hell was I watching? I was watching something on Shudder and Gene. They showed his picture in it for his YouTube channel.
Starting point is 01:16:56 Yeah, okay. What was that? Do you know? What the hell was I watching? Um, it was like a documentary or something It was it was a it was like a documentary for something And um He I can't remember what he was talking about
Starting point is 01:17:11 I don't know if it was about Bigfoot or Something I don't remember I mean I told jean I took a picture of it and he didn't see it yet But I'm sure you've seen it by now I can't I don't remember what it was But I remember I was like half falling asleep And then they showed like a
Starting point is 01:17:31 a screen of YouTube and then on the side you saw his picture right there. That's awesome. Look at Gene. Technically a movie star. Yeah, I can't remember. Is he an IMDB? I can't remember what it was about. I got to see that, man. Let me
Starting point is 01:17:47 know if you remember. Yeah, it was something on Shutter. I want to say it was one of the documentary things, but I do not remember what it was. All right. Well, we do have one more question from our friend Zim. He says,
Starting point is 01:18:03 for the action returns, is Revenge of the Ninja the greatest show Kasugi film? Yes. Okay, it was a quick, quick answer. His son gets killed,
Starting point is 01:18:18 his son gets killed with a ninja star to the forehead in like the first five minutes of the movie. That sounds just like my tree house thing. The ninja he fights
Starting point is 01:18:29 has like robotic decoys of himself at the end. Oh, God. I don't know how he got it there either. He did it hell of fast. Right? They're smuggling heroin in little dolls in this movie. Like, there's so much, the blonde chick that's like trying to get with him
Starting point is 01:18:49 as like the fucking shortest karate D-arm. I've seen this. Man, I got to go back and watch some of those ninja movies. I wanted to be a ninja. just so bad when I was a kid, you don't even know. I mean, he's done like a hell of a lot of ninja movies, but that's, that one always just because everything that's happening in is like fucking ridiculous but fun at the same time.
Starting point is 01:19:17 So that one always just stuck out to me. All right. Revenge of the Ninja. Check that one out. I bet if it was Black Christmas, you'd find it. I know this is. He's looking for the DVD. I had a section of whatever...
Starting point is 01:19:37 Of ninja movies? No, the company that puts those movies out. Okay. I thought it was right here. I don't know. It's a mess in here. I don't know exactly it's somewhere, man. It's somewhere here.
Starting point is 01:19:55 Yeah, that movie is. I'd say the 80s ninja movies, Revenge of the Ninja is the best one. Yeah, buddy. Enter the ninja. Watch that one. I haven't seen it. Enter the Ninja is good, but it was...
Starting point is 01:20:06 What about Ninja 3? Oh, that was awesome. I know where that one is somewhere right here. Within all my... In this general area? There it is. Hey, there it is. All right.
Starting point is 01:20:22 Yeah, my screen factory, whatever. He was the bad ninja in that one. That's a PlayStation game. Get out of here. regarding Adrian Barvo's birthday Lyle Huckins says happy birthday and I'm sure very many people other very many other people did too
Starting point is 01:20:43 and as we record as we record tonight happy birthday to you Brian thank you oh yeah happy birthday 21 years old you can finally drink now yes and happy Father's Day yeah yeah all you guys there are you guys and all you of mothers too happy father's day
Starting point is 01:21:01 there it is that counts nez what did you do for father's day other than this we went on a family drive kind of drove last last year there was last summertime there was like the biggest
Starting point is 01:21:16 fire in california yeah and uh we kind of drove around in that area and man it was just depressing yeah trying to burn up here now it it looks there's this one town called Greenville, California.
Starting point is 01:21:33 It looks like a bomb went off there. And it pretty much, it didn't destroy the whole town, but all the old buildings that were there, they had the brick front. That was all that was standing. And everything else was gone. And I loved going to Greenville because it's just green everywhere in the trees. But after the fire, it's just,
Starting point is 01:21:58 It looks terrible up there It was really sad driving around Just seeing What the devastation of just some of it in our area It was so huge I didn't I didn't get to see all of it But there was some stuff even a few miles from our house Up the Highway
Starting point is 01:22:15 Yeah It's just Gutted And Yeah All those trees are gorgeous But they're dangerous Yeah there
Starting point is 01:22:23 There was been some landslides Because of All those trees not being there anymore to stop it and everything. Oh, that makes sense. With the roots and everything in the ground, it's just the earth is moving. I mean, Mother Nature and she's mad at us and it's just, it's sad. But hopefully, hopefully there's knock on wood. We don't have a fire like that again this year because it was rough. I mean, there was many times that I couldn't even get home because the roads were closed and I remember
Starting point is 01:22:58 of that. Everyone was running for their lives. I mean, just trying to get out of it. I mean, the college down the street, about a mile or so from my house, the JC, it was like a, like a refugee camp. It was just everybody that
Starting point is 01:23:13 they couldn't be at their house because the fires were there. Well, and that whole west coast was just on fire. The smoke was so bad. I couldn't imagine. I mean, I was in my house and I could smell it. Oh my God and I can't imagine them being out in it all day for weeks, maybe almost a month.
Starting point is 01:23:37 But again, it was it was really sad to see all that. So hopefully we don't get that again. But I don't know. Oh, I don't know, man. Again, knock on wood. And everyone that was out there fighting the fire that we did lose some lives with some of the firefighters. But all the men and women that were out there doing it. my hat's always off to all of them because they they had to deal a lot not just the firefighters here in our area
Starting point is 01:24:03 I mean all over the place all over the world fire brigades everything man they they're the heroes man i i i don't think i could do it i couldn't just charge into some burning building but uh well i don't know it was it was just the devastation of what happened in my area it was brutal but well there it is man good good father's day message thank you to firefighters Yep. Let's see. Regarding our trailer for fall, not our trailer, the trailer.
Starting point is 01:24:38 Tim Davis says, I have no idea how this premise is going to run for 90 minutes, but holy shit, the trailer scares a living shit at me. Hmm. I haven't seen this one. I want to check. I don't know why they're up there. They're like on a weather tower in the middle of the world.
Starting point is 01:24:55 Are they working or are they just up there? I don't know, but it's starting to like, the ladder like falls off and it's starting to like collapse. Oh, wow. And this movie would look, the first thing I thought is if you'd be able to watch this movie wearing the Oculus. Uh-huh. Oh, way up there. Immersive. Yeah. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:25:17 I'm waiting for the Oculus movies to come out, man. Yeah. I'm right around the corner, man. I'm sure. I want to see this movie, but I'm kind of in the same boat. I don't know if this movie needs to be an hour and a half. Right. But it looks scary.
Starting point is 01:25:36 But to have a storyline-based game on the Oculus that you can be in while that's happening for an hour and a half? Yeah, pretty cool, right? That sounds awesome. I mean, there's a total green screen, but... Just an idea. If they're up there, just being dumbasses, then F them. If it was like workers, then, no, I mean, again, those guys are heroes, too. I couldn't go up there.
Starting point is 01:26:08 Hell not. Even those guys that just clean the windows on the buildings. Yeah. Work on bridges or build skyscrap. No way I could do that. I'd be like, oh. It's scary, dude. That picture I sent in the messenger of this giant chandelier I was hanging.
Starting point is 01:26:22 And it was like 22 feet up. I was on a lift and hanging crystals for like two days straight. And I'm scared shitless of heights. I love them, but I'm scared of them. That's why I can't spray the planes during the winter when we de-ice them. I got up in that thing once. Nope. I can't do it.
Starting point is 01:26:40 I would say, man, if you guys want this done right, I can't be involved. I could drive the truck. I could drive, but to be in there to spray, huh. You were all harnessed up, but I'd fall out. I know, man. I can't do it. There was a couple times I was up there, and I was, like, getting vertigo, and I'm like, oh, my God, I'm glad this thing has rails on it. I get dizzy watching those movies like that.
Starting point is 01:27:04 If you guys seen that movie, The Walk, when that guy walked the tie rope. That was a Joseph Gordon Levitt thing, right? Yeah, that one. It was a good movie. I haven't seen it. But that, no, I was getting dizzy watching that. Yeah. Or even that Peter Jackson, King Kong when they were on Empire.
Starting point is 01:27:22 Oh, that's right. That's right. I was dizzy watching all that. I still love him. They scare the shit out of me, though. Yeah. All right. Regarding the posting of the Geeks Show,
Starting point is 01:27:37 Steve Carlton says, thanks, Brian. Always. Yeah, we owe Steve a lot. Regarding nope. Our M. Sour says, this shit looks so good. Well, there you have it. I'm excited about this movie, man.
Starting point is 01:27:55 I have high expectations for it. Regarding show 315. Man, you know, whenever they reference a show in the beginning, I'm like, oh, God, what did I say? Tim Davis says, I watched hatching the other night and loved it. Can't wait to hear your thoughts. Oh, we were going to be asked. Man. It's all right.
Starting point is 01:28:25 What movie? Patching. Is that? It's a Nordic film. I can't think what country, Denmark, or no, not Denmark.
Starting point is 01:28:36 If Lars is going to shoot me. Finland or Norway or something like that. And where is this? Sorry, Lars. It's an 824 film. It's out there. Okay. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:28:46 Hatching. It's hatching somewhere near you. It's good. It's worth to watch. It's different. At the least, I thought the girl, the young girl, what was she? 13. It's her first movie for her to be in there and play that.
Starting point is 01:29:04 I'm not going to spoil her for you, but to play that kind of role. Yeah. I thought she did really good. She really did. Hell of an acting job. Right. So maybe we'll see her soon, but it's also a four. foreign language of movies, so it's not like she's in Hollywood.
Starting point is 01:29:19 It could be the next move. Yeah. Let's see. Zim Vader and Tim Davis says Shouldn't you be watching Eraserhead and no phones? It needs your full attention for the full 20 hours or however long.
Starting point is 01:29:36 Horrible fucking movie. Jesus Christ. The minute seemed like hours. That was Tim Davis. I haven't seen a racerhead in a long time, man, but I remember it freaked me out when I was a kid. I don't think I've watched that movie all the way through. I don't think you need to. I definitely remember it doesn't make it much sense.
Starting point is 01:30:03 Yeah. All right. Well, we'll go back and watch Eraserhead. We should do a commentary. Oh, somebody might be. Or I'm shooting myself in the foot. Regarding show 313. Oh, God damn it.
Starting point is 01:30:21 Great episode. I'd forgotten about Eden Lake, but it all came flooding back to me while listening to your discussion. As for men, you said just enough to make me intrigued, but not enough to make me have any idea what it's about. Just the way I like it. Thank you. Perfect. Will I like it? Spoiler talk.
Starting point is 01:30:39 Yeah. I've been... You liked it? I don't know. Will I like it? Oh, yeah, no. I think you will. I don't know.
Starting point is 01:30:45 Brian thinks you won't. I think you will. It's fucking weird. I don't know what it's about, but I just want to see it. Good. That's the way it needs to be. You need to see it while you've still got that mindset. It's interesting. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:31:02 T and A. Creative. No. Sort of. Sort of. Wow, we're being so dodgy. I just can't answer the T&A question because yeah, kind of. Yeah, kind of.
Starting point is 01:31:27 Maybe a little more than that. All right, I'll check it out. Guarding the Iraq. At the end of the movie, Kevin's going to go, what the fuck, man. It was creepy. It built a great atmosphere, Ness. Beautifully built atmosphere, wonderfully filmed. Whatever you think of the story or the acting,
Starting point is 01:31:56 just go into it, understanding that you're about to see a work of art. And I think you'll dig it. But I'm not trying to influence you. Top 10? Man, I'm about to make some movies that don't make any fucking sense, too. They're going to be fantastic. It's a guaranteed top 10 for me for the year, no matter what it comes. Oh, God, though.
Starting point is 01:32:15 That's not good. This is my top 10 comic book movies. If you guys can see it. Morpius? I heard that. What? I haven't actually watched it yet. You're the first good review I've heard.
Starting point is 01:32:25 Me too. It was what it was. I mean, it's a comic book movie. Let's see. Regarding the Araknophobia remake on the way, Zim Vader says, I don't see how this can be anything other than a steaming hot turd. It'll be like, well, that was hell of good, though. legged freaks all the cgis spiders of course that's that's why it's going to be stupid because
Starting point is 01:32:53 that's exactly what it's going to be of course it is yeah yeah i mean arachnophobia i might not wrong i i i fuck i hate spiders i can't even watch i love arachnophobia i thought it was a good movie i saw in the theater and everything but my feet were like plastered on that front seat i think i tried to get to do uh kingdom of spiders uh i can't i watched that once, never again. No, when it's real spiders, no. I can't do it. I like spiders, because we have so many mosquitoes around here.
Starting point is 01:33:26 I know they help eat the mosquitoes. No, I know. I keep telling myself that too, and it... If they're bigger than a quarter, nope, I can't do it. Although the only ones that have ever actually made me like scream like a girl are wasps. Oh. One of those motherfuckers lands on you and it's... Yeah.
Starting point is 01:33:49 Yeah, not fun. Phil, when you were over there, did you see any of those camel spiders? Yes. No, we tried to get one off of a ceiling one time. I was... I doubled up two flaswaters and tried to hit it. Because I'm a fucking moron.
Starting point is 01:34:06 He got a gun and shoot it. He just leaves a building. Yeah, you got a gun to shoot it. Yeah. Yeah. Had we been allowed to do that, I probably would. That might have raised some eyebrows. It just made it mad, and everybody immediately scattered out of the little place we were in.
Starting point is 01:34:28 Now, explain. You made it mad. Yeah. What happened? Did it come at you? Well, it fell off the wall and started running, and so. how big was it? How big was it? It was pretty fucking big, man. It was like a
Starting point is 01:34:46 He said people ran out of the roof. Yeah. No, we all fucking flip. How did you not see it crawling on the ceiling? I don't know how it got up there. I just came in there. It was like a night watch fucking radio thing. I had to hang out, listen to the fucking radio all night. And yeah, we came in there. and somebody goes, holy shit, look on the wall.
Starting point is 01:35:16 My dumb ass was the one that went to go hit it. Yeah, it was scary. My friend, she did a tour in Iraq before she went to Afghanistan. She said they were running around all over the place. Really? They didn't bite or anything. Or they could bite you, but it wouldn't kill you. She was, she did an all-nighter, so she was.
Starting point is 01:35:40 tired and she laid down in Iraq and she uh they kept fucking with each other the whole time they were there all all the other everyone just they were Marines and they were all just messing with each other she thought somebody was trying to tickle her toes oh my god
Starting point is 01:35:57 and she was going she was just yelling knock it knock it off but she she was so tired but then she realized she was in her uh sleeping bag or whatever and he was like she was like wait a minute because it felt like fingers or whatever she said it was in the sleeping bag it was in her sleeping bag oh my god did she burn the sleeping bag after she got up and just with her gun and started hitting it
Starting point is 01:36:27 with the blood it just smashed it in the sleeping bag and they took it out and she said she said she goes i didn't care all so tired i just threw it on the ground and went back to sleep Hell no Oh, that is terrifying Wow Wow No thank you Uh
Starting point is 01:36:46 Well and Fucking Zem knows something about spiders He's Australian right Oh yeah They have big spiders They got That's a Tim told me
Starting point is 01:36:55 They were They have to kill you spiders there Yeah Nah man Fuck all that I'll take the geckos Uh Regarding Charman. Hey, there you go.
Starting point is 01:37:08 There you go, Brian. Zim Vader says, looks cool, but I can't unhear Bowie singing Charman when I see this poster. Oh, boy. It would have been a lot more interesting than the movie. Oh, no. All right. That's it for listener feedback. Our show intro comes from Steve Carlton of The Geeks.
Starting point is 01:37:31 Our artwork comes from Natsulani. If I'd like to help us out, please consider becoming a Patreon patron. We'll let you pick the movies for a future show at any amount, and for $5 or more a month, also pick a commentary for a future bonus show. And if you have a chance, please give us a five-star Apple podcast review. Speaking of commentary, Zim, we will be doing Jaws 4. Yeah. The revenge.
Starting point is 01:38:00 Are you fucking kidding me? The revenge. Is that Michael Cain? Oh, this season? Yes. Yeah. Awesome. And we still have a contest going on? Oh, yes.
Starting point is 01:38:14 Another one? Do we have a winner for the showbook? Yes, we do. All right. Cabin in the woods. Who gets in me? Adam Bunch, come on down. Oh, all right.
Starting point is 01:38:26 Wait until I send it to you. I still owe him a T-shirt, too. Don't worry, Adam. We got your back, man. We'll get you, dude. It takes us a minute, but we pay our debts. Like Lannister. Like a Lannister.
Starting point is 01:38:40 There you go. You know all right, Niz? I had a cramp. Oh. Oh, man legs. Old man legs. I went saw Primus last night and didn't realize they were going to do almost the three-hour set. Oh, yeah.
Starting point is 01:38:57 I think Lance asked about Winona's Big Brown Beaver. Oh, they didn't do that one. They started off. They did three sets. They did. So a few Primus songs in the beginning. They took a break. They came back and did that whole Rush album tribute to the Kings or whatever,
Starting point is 01:39:15 farewell to the King. Took another break. Then they came out and finished with more primus. Okay. And I was like, oh, man. I mean, I remember going to those shows and sitting through like 10 bands and just coming out like, yeah, ready for more. But now I'm like, kept checking my watch.
Starting point is 01:39:32 Like, come on. I'm tired and old yeah I got to just got a cramp in my leg oh I understand dude I don't know how I'm gonna do after shock there's this huge two-day festival well it's four days but I'm only going two days I don't know how I'm gonna do it so oh I got to get in shape I got a drink a lot of water yeah it's gonna be in Sacramento too well it'll be in October so probably won't be like hot but i'm going to a show next month at the end of july in sacramento and that's going to be hot so i don't know we'll see hope i'm i just want to see anthrax the other closer so oh yeah i might stay in the back for the first couple bands in the shade
Starting point is 01:40:23 save all my energy for anthrax all right featured attractions time uh this week it's psychological part two. So we're going to do the crush from 1993 and fear from 1996. We'll start with the crush. A journalist becomes the unwanted center of attention for a 14-year-old girl, remember, who proceeds to sabotage his life after he refuses her sexual advances. Director and writer is Alan Shapiro, also known for the Christmas Star and
Starting point is 01:41:05 Flipper That would click it out of Dundee. Flipper, Flipper? Yeah, Dundee did one. Apparently that. Flipper, Lance. What's that?
Starting point is 01:41:18 Flipper. Flipper. Flipper. They call him Flipper. Is that what that is? About the fucking dolphin or whatever. Yeah.
Starting point is 01:41:31 Alicia Silverstone became an emancipated minor at age 15 during the shooting of this film. She was only 15? Yeah, I guess I was reading more trivia. She actually turned 16 while in the middle of film in this movie. I thought she was 20. No.
Starting point is 01:41:49 When they filmed this? Finding all this out made this movie even more uncomfortable. Oh, shit. Even more uncomfortable. So, yeah, at age 15 during the shooting of the film, meaning she was legally on her own, not a dependent of her parents. This way she could avoid child labor laws,
Starting point is 01:42:07 which had restricted how many hours she could work on the film. But apparently not the type of things that she shot at the age of... I'm concerned about the director at this point. No kidding. No kidding. You guys know this is based on a story of his that he experienced. I'm sure. Yeah, I did hear about that, I think.
Starting point is 01:42:33 Well, especially only hearing his side of it, too. So he definitely tried to, you know, refuse her sexual advances, I'm sure. All right. All of Alicia Silverstone's nude scenes were done by a body double because she was under. That makes sense. Yeah, hopefully. That's the thing. Oh, man.
Starting point is 01:42:57 Well, this became a lot more uncomfortable. The crush. Lance, what did you think about the crush? I think you were the one who said, I know these movies you're supposed to be serious, but I'm laughing my ass off or something like that. Yeah. It was definitely one of those that, like, I don't know, man,
Starting point is 01:43:19 there were some scenes like the... Where do I go? Start from the beginning. Why would the dad say something like, safe to talk about. Oh yeah, number one, the dad makes, bills her a fucking marrying around in the attic. Yeah, what kind of
Starting point is 01:43:37 weird is that? And then he tells, then he tells the guy, oh, is Kurt Wood Smith, right? Yeah, it's, it was weird because it's almost like he still sees her as this little girl, which she clearly is not just by her the way she acts.
Starting point is 01:43:55 Yeah, but with ay, y, y-y-y-loki, pedophilia inbreeding were he selling the boy I don't know about him but when we get
Starting point is 01:44:08 to the dread pirate Robert Roberts Dr. Gordon Right. This fucking guy I thought I remember this movie but man
Starting point is 01:44:17 Right yeah He was making me fucking uncomfortable Yeah His leering at her The kiss they had Right Right
Starting point is 01:44:27 When he was in her room where he like took his foot and slid out a pair of her underwear from underneath the bed. I'm like, why the fuck are you doing that? Yeah. Don't put yourself in that situation. Fucking free. Oh, yeah. The ultimate stupid, it's time to do the ultimate stupid people sounder, right?
Starting point is 01:44:45 Oh, man. And then she, sorry, I don't mean to jump on your review, Lance, but it's just so many things and just finding out that she was pretty much close to this age. She was playing in the movie and just. the way she's carrying herself. I was like, you're, you're neither a fucking good actor, you've fucking done this before. Yep.
Starting point is 01:45:06 Oh, man. It was a little too realistic for me. I could have sworn she was really like 21 or something. I thought for sure she was. I was like, you know, another one of those 13, or 30 year old playing a teenager.
Starting point is 01:45:23 Oh, man. I don't know, man. It was enjoyable. It was a fun watch. I enjoyed it more than I didn't for sure. It was, oh, man, yeah, lots of creepiness, lots of stupid decisions on the part of,
Starting point is 01:45:41 who did you refer to him as? I just think of him as the guy from the princess bride. Yeah, or Dr. Gordon. It is the same guy. Okay, there you go. That's right. Kept telling everybody he's a doctor. Yeah, this, it was an interesting watch. I'm really struggling for her. I don't want to say something.
Starting point is 01:46:10 And she was like sunbathing and looking right up at him. It really almost seemed like she knew too much. Like, right? Like, right? Like, she knew exactly where he was going to be. She always knew exactly when he was watching her. but it's hard to just you know say it was her because before she looked up at him he was fucking sitting there watching her I know right I expected him to unzip his pants to start jacking off oh man I mean
Starting point is 01:46:38 I'm all kidding aside man you guys are right he was like a super creep yeah like at some point you got to go like at least the Silverstone is hot she's hot in this movie
Starting point is 01:46:55 all right call it creepy call it what you want they made her hot in this movie but like he at some point he's got to look down at her and go
Starting point is 01:47:06 holy shit she's 14 this is fucking stupid maybe I should stop ogling her what the fuck are you doing I I just
Starting point is 01:47:19 I couldn't get behind his character not one fucking bit even after you fucking kissed her and he was like that was a mistake. No shit. Yeah. No shit. But he was getting into it. Well, and it's definitely her that was
Starting point is 01:47:34 approaching him. And so the movie is on her being crazy. But it's also on him not like putting a stop to that shit. I know. He can't nymph the bud. Right. Right. At the more responsible one. Right. When somebody who's way too fucking young for you,
Starting point is 01:47:53 fucking trust me is you know coming after sure you gotta end it clearly and no
Starting point is 01:48:02 this is not going to happen yeah bye and he leaves his door he leaves his door unlocked right
Starting point is 01:48:12 even when he knows that she's trying to kill him and shit I mean this motherfucker does not know how to lock a door
Starting point is 01:48:19 up until the point he actually went to the parents, which was for the car, which that was the most important thing was the car, but not all her fucking sexual events before then, or her fucking going through and rewriting your work and fucking breaking into your home.
Starting point is 01:48:39 Right. It wasn't until she put cock sucker on his car. He was like, wait a minute, now I've got to get the parents. Now I'm at me. Yeah. Well, and let's go for the parents for a fucking second. Dude, I'm not leaving my fucking 14 year old girl at home and renting my fucking guest house out
Starting point is 01:48:58 and just being gone for months. What did she say in the movie? How much did they pay you to watch me? Yeah. How many other people were there before? What the fuck? Oh. Not counting the camp counselor apparently that she murdered. Oh boy.
Starting point is 01:49:18 They kind of glossed over that real quick. They did. They did. And the The end situation is crazy. The ending was silly. Didn't y'all? Didn't y'all think the way that they ended it was kind of, kind of jeezball? That was my part where I was laughing. Right.
Starting point is 01:49:34 When they're on that carousel? And he's just, he keeps getting his ass kicked. And like at some point you're like, look, all right, dude, I know that it's going to look bad, but you've got to fucking get this woman off of you. What are you going to do? That's what made it hilarious. because she is beating his entire ass through the
Starting point is 01:49:56 ball movie. And then he says, fuck it, I'm a grown man. Yeah. My grown man stroke. Finally. He finally goes. And knock you the fuck out. He catches that thing and hits her and she flies like
Starting point is 01:50:08 fucking 20 feet. Dude, I immediately started laughing and could not stop. That was nuts, man. That was a funny scene unintentionally funny of any fucking movie I think I've ever seen. That was so hilarious. I don't
Starting point is 01:50:26 know. I watched Face Off today, and that was pretty fucking unintentionally funny in a lot of parts. Face Off? Yeah, it doesn't. It doesn't age very well. Oh, man, I got to go back and watch it. Just wait for the sequel. Faces off. They're doing a sequel, for Rue.
Starting point is 01:50:44 No! I'm just not even going to lead into jokes on that one. That's a bad idea. Are they using the binge cast idea? Are they calling it faces off? I don't know what they're calling it. Oh my God, if they do oh man. I'll testify in court
Starting point is 01:51:00 that they owe money to the binge gas. Just don't do this. I hated that. That was fucking stupid. What was that he was on? Was that Angel Dust or BCP that they put in his drawing? Everything. Everything. All the above.
Starting point is 01:51:18 Nez, what do you think of the crush? You know what? This is the first time I seen this film. Really? Yeah, I wasn't in the 80s, so like 80s, I saw everything. It's a blind spot, huh? I knew what it was about. I knew who was in it. Shout out to Jennifer Rubin.
Starting point is 01:51:40 I was supposed to go to, I was supposed to go to Sinister CreatureCon because she was down there, but I didn't make it. She was Dream Warriors. Yeah. She had the weak-ass power. She had a mohaw. and a switchblade. She was beautiful and bad.
Starting point is 01:51:57 Yeah. But she was hot in this. But not the bees. Oh, I was watching it. My grandsons were sitting there, but then I was like, what reading is this?
Starting point is 01:52:12 It was rated at all. And there might have been one or two F-bombs, but it didn't, it wasn't really graphic or anything. But for everything, in the film I liked it I thought it was good
Starting point is 01:52:29 um Batgirl Alicia Silverstone I've always loved her come back when we do Clueless and then all those other ones eventually but um Brian come on man
Starting point is 01:52:40 I'll work it out we gotta we gotta do it we gotta make sure he's Nez is on Clueless oh yeah 100% man but um the Clueless was the first thing
Starting point is 01:52:52 I seen her in so But, yeah, I like your friend and clues. It was, this one was a little cringeworthy. I mean, with the subject manner. I believe she was 20 years old when they filmed this. No, nope. It said she, she's, it said she was, this was what, 93. 15.
Starting point is 01:53:19 She was born, or she's only five years younger than me. Wait a minute. Hold on. Something's not adding up here, guys. IMDB says she was 15 when they filmed this movie. She celebrated her 16th birthday while filming. Must be. It says she was born in 76.
Starting point is 01:53:39 Yeah. Okay. And this was 93. Yeah, she wasn't old 15. She was. Well, I'm going to believe it because it makes it. They filmed it. That makes it about right, Ness.
Starting point is 01:53:52 Yeah. Yeah, so she was 20, I believe, when they filmed this. Because they were not going to let no however old. Who is missing right into us. You don't think so? No, man, she was tongue in him. When she was kissing him by the lighthouse? No, you saw that tongue moving.
Starting point is 01:54:11 But it was a mistake. No, she's what. She came from Epstein's Island. She's, San Francisco's owned, Alicia Silverstone, aka Batgirl. Yeah, she was born October 4th, 1970s. She's 45 years old now. So, yeah, she was not no 15 when they filmed this. But because, yeah, there's no way, especially in the 90s.
Starting point is 01:54:37 Maybe 80s, 70s. It was a different time, boys and girls. They might have let that slide. When until we talk about... Tracy Lords? No. Little darlings. That was in the 70s.
Starting point is 01:54:48 When did we get to that one? But, yeah, there was no way they would let some 15-year-old tongue, however. Maybe she's lying about her age. I don't know, man. That's what the chick from that 70s show did. What's her name? Melecunis. Speaking of red, huh?
Starting point is 01:55:08 Speaking of red. Oh, yeah, red was in this. But it was just like, I mean, watching it sucked it's on Father's Day. But watching this. She had a shitty dad. I'll say that. I was like, oh, man. I mean, again, that's why I had to look up how old she was.
Starting point is 01:55:35 Right after he kissed her. I mean, because again, you could see her. That tongue was moving in his mouth. It almost felt like Red was pimping her out with that speech he gave. Like, now I know she looks really good. yeah that was that was some I mean but she was
Starting point is 01:55:54 she seems to be blossoming blossoming see that his character made no sense because you get the scene where he's showing the carousel and he has the whole talk where he's got the wrench and
Starting point is 01:56:08 talking about clipping off you know whatever if you feel the need to tell a grown man this this why are you having him around your daughter.
Starting point is 01:56:20 Yeah. Because you walk into your own house and he's coming from upstairs and you don't question anything. Yeah. Pretty silly. And then next time you, and a couple minutes later, you see your daughter
Starting point is 01:56:32 who just got out the shower? That wasn't her. He read Foreman should have turned into Clarence Bodiger from fucking Robocop and just went crazy. Right. There's no way. No way.
Starting point is 01:56:49 that that should have went down like that. He shouldn't have let her in that situation in the first fucking place, man. That's like this movie in general. Don't put yourself in that situation. Yeah, I mean, this movie, it was moving pretty quick. It wasn't like there was much of a buildup. Of course we knew where it was going to go. But I liked all was going on, the setting up and outskirts of Seattle or wherever they were.
Starting point is 01:57:16 but for I don't know if this was her first movie I know she had done some TV before this but sort of first feature film okay well I thought I liked the movie for this is my again my first time watching
Starting point is 01:57:31 this film I knew it was about and I but I didn't know how it ended how it was gonna end I thought it was gonna be more of she was gonna we're spoiling this right they hope she'd seen this by now I thought she was gonna get killed
Starting point is 01:57:43 at the end but the way she got punched she might have that was the best part of the whole movie that was the best part of the whole I died dude I had to rewind it my grandson was like
Starting point is 01:57:58 whoa I didn't do let's so hard I went back and rewound it and watched it again let's just say when we get to the next movie at the end of that one the laughs kept on coming yep okay all right
Starting point is 01:58:12 but overall I mean, again, it was just the subject matter was like, uh, right. But I mean, we've heard many stories like this, especially in the news. And I don't know,
Starting point is 01:58:26 man, this guy just didn't have that willpower to like, no. I mean, first of all. No will power at all. Like, she didn't want to show you something.
Starting point is 01:58:35 No, we should have said that, but then there would have been no movie. Just like he has, he has no. He has no. He has no. common sense. Even like when the friend is like, I got something to tell you, meet me out
Starting point is 01:58:50 back by the street land or whatever. I was like, no, just tell me now. I don't need to meet a little 14-year-old girl in night. Even if she's like 18, he's like 28? Yeah. You at least have to no. No. Even though Nick, Nick my darling and this and that and I was like, well, what the hell's going on. I heard just popping in anywhere. Technically it was her house. Her house. Yeah, no lock doors. A windows
Starting point is 01:59:21 open and everything. There's a scene he has a conversation with her wearing a fucking towel. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, I would have like, what the hell are you doing in my house? Get out right now. Yeah. I'm not coming out of the bathroom until you were gone.
Starting point is 01:59:37 And of course, when he gets out of the shower, he doesn't actually shut the door all the way. I know. Nice and cracked for her. Like, what the fuck I'm doing, man? When he went into her into the house, was he just looking for her? Obviously, he was looking for her damn underwear.
Starting point is 01:59:56 Oh, yeah, because there was no need to slide that out from underneath the bed. I'm kind of thinking he was the antagonist in this movie at this point. Well, I mean, seriously, like, it's shitty the shit that happened to him, but right he got a head of company put yourself in that situation how did you think this was going to go
Starting point is 02:00:15 I mean because the other outcome is you could just go to jail because of statutory rape and then you get raped and that's another thing I didn't understand clearly his boss believed that he did it yeah but why would he bail him out
Starting point is 02:00:33 I know I honestly thought at the end that I thought it had gone so far that it was going to be like a zombie apocalypse movie ending where there's no way he can get out of this. And then that punch, saved the day, turn the whole movie around.
Starting point is 02:00:48 Once he punched her, he finally woke up. It was like right at the point where I was like, Jesus fucking Christ, man, do something. I know. So frustrating, right? He finally was like, all right, fuck this.
Starting point is 02:01:07 Grabs her pipe and bing. Oh, man, that was the funniest scene. A couple of interesting facts. They had to change. I guess they filmed this movie with her character having a different name, and they had to re-edit it because I mentioned the director. This was a story based on something he experienced. Well, I guess he used the girl's real name and she sued.
Starting point is 02:01:42 So they had to go back and change it. Especially since I guarantee you, whatever he based this shit on is not really what happened. And another interesting fact connecting to the next movie we're about to talk to, Reese Witherspoon was up for this role. No kidding. Interesting.
Starting point is 02:02:09 And the scary looking chick from the craft. was up for this role too. Okay. I like her. I like her friend, Cheyenne. Mm-hmm. Tell her name in Buffy. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:02:22 Tara McLeigh, I think that was her name in the show. I know how she or somewhere. Okay. That's not Buffy. But Sarah Michelle Geller, you are Kendall from all my children. You are not Buffy. What's her name?
Starting point is 02:02:34 Christy Swanson is Buffy, the Vampires. There you. Okay. Anyway, but I liked Cheyenne. I liked her character. and what she was bringing to the table and everything. But I just wish she would have spoke up instead of being all like, I need to tell you something later.
Starting point is 02:02:53 But the movie would have been over. I'm surprised, I mean, nobody died in this, really? Other than the person that they were. Yeah, that guy. But I thought Jennifer Rubin's character, I can't remember her name in the movie, but I thought she was going to die from all the wasps. Yeah. And, um, yeah, she made it.
Starting point is 02:03:13 And then I thought she was going to kill, uh, Cheyenne at the end. Now, she did was duct taper to the, to the carousel. And I'm not in any kind of a, kind of crazy evil villain shit is that. And I'm not a constructor or builder or whatever you call them, architects that build houses. I'm pretty sure that floor could not hold that that top. A carousel?
Starting point is 02:03:38 Yeah, those, that's, that's not just, wood, that's steel and everything else that it's made of him. I was thinking the same thing. I'll give it to red. He said he hauled every piece up there. Up that little ladder that comes down from the ceiling. What a fucking idiot. I'm like, really?
Starting point is 02:03:55 Why don't you build a garage or something? It just makes me, gives me more questions about him. I know. That's almost like a weird fetish. I'm going to build a character. He's going to ride the horses. He did say stuff like his daughter was blossoming or
Starting point is 02:04:12 yes yeah it was a right creepy and where was the mom during all this she she once or twice I think she was like had one of them
Starting point is 02:04:21 kind of jobs where she was always doing like charities and benefits so she was constantly gone that's that's why the whole the whole thing where she was talking about how much did they pay you to watch me I'm assuming they were always gone on business or something
Starting point is 02:04:36 so they just let random business random men that, which that whole thing was when he moved in, because he didn't even look at the inside of the place and he was good. She didn't ask any questions about him, and she was good. Don't ask, don't tell. Different times in eight in the 90s and early 90s. What the fuck are they leaving their 14-year-old at home, man? It doesn't make any sense. Not a well chance.
Starting point is 02:05:05 I never left my daughter alone. That's what I'm saying. But, I mean, for me, as a kid, that's a little. a guy, my mom, dad left us alone all the time. Different times. Different times in the 70 years. You were a boy. Yeah, but as a 14-year-old girl, are you going to rent your fucking guest house off to some strange
Starting point is 02:05:25 dude that you barely know? Only if you really need the money. That's what I was thinking. Why are they renting their guest house? I mean, they're obviously rich. Look at that big-ass house they had. That too. And you've got a carousel in the in the, in the, the,
Starting point is 02:05:40 attic? Tell that motherfucker. Something doesn't compute here. I don't know. It would have probably would have been alright if it was this. It was like an apartment building or something. And he was next door or whatever. And why couldn't he get an apartment?
Starting point is 02:05:56 Why is he keep looking for places staying in other people's homes? Yeah. He finds another place with the old lady. It's just more questions on him. Yeah. He's another guy. The first thing, he's an asshole.
Starting point is 02:06:11 Yeah, he was one of the heroes and Prince's bride, but he was an asshole and twister, so he deserved to get sucked up. Oh, he was an asshole and twist. And he was the, what did? That was that Jim Carrey movie. Liar, liar.
Starting point is 02:06:27 The claw. The claw. Oh, man, I have to push him in his face. He's kind of a cornball. Yeah. I mean, but said and done for my first time watching this film I did enjoy it I liked it will I buy it I don't know if it's on Blurray if it is
Starting point is 02:06:44 it is it'll be here then I liked it I thought it was better than black Christmas I think it's I think it's a shout factory release oh man there's probably gone no it's on Amazon okay all right
Starting point is 02:07:01 let's do scores but we kind of just all mishmash this one so we'll start with Lance Oh, six. I enjoyed it. Like I said, I had fun. I enjoyed it more than I didn't. So six.
Starting point is 02:07:14 That sounds fair. Brian? Despite all the cringy, creepy moments of Dr. Gordon, I thought the movie, especially Alicia Silverstone, I think she played that role a little too well from me. Oh, shit. The ending was hilarious. Right.
Starting point is 02:07:35 Because I laugh every time I think about it. and yeah I think it does because it's it's considered a cult classic and it is it kind of yeah because in the 90s there was a whole slew of psychological thrillers yeah slimmer and
Starting point is 02:07:53 the movies we did in the first round single white female and uh sure whatever I forgot the other one we did those those were all the 90s so okay I it's a good film I think I go a little bit higher seven. Okay.
Starting point is 02:08:10 I think it was a done about the hand that rocks the cradle. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, there you go. Because I think. Rebecca de Morne. Yeah, I think the subject matter. Renni. I think it's supposed to make you uncomfortable. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:08:22 And they did a good job. Yeah. Because I remember this completely different when I watched it and be watching it. I was just kind of, I was looking at Dr. Gordon. Like, what the fuck, man? and you said it right man he if it would have went the other way with him he put himself in that position so oh yeah he did nez what do you think i give us an eight i really enjoy nice all right cool i enjoyed this one uh yeah man it is good i think seven is a really good score for that one it was uh definitely
Starting point is 02:09:04 worth watching Alicia Silverstone in one of her first roles and she definitely pulls it off. Dread Pirate Roberts, he's always fucking great. It definitely was creepy, especially knowing that
Starting point is 02:09:20 she is I mean, I guess it's up in the air on her age and I'm not going to ask questions, so you got to ask questions. Even today, guys you ask questions
Starting point is 02:09:36 they may dress like they're over 21 but don't be fooled luckily I'm way past that I'm like to the point now where I'm looking at like 40 year old women and saying wow she looks young she looks like a kid more the older route
Starting point is 02:09:58 but yeah just for that last that in scene punch that happened. That's got to get some points for me. Like, dude, I literally, I saw it happen, I died laughing. I paused it, I read around, watch it again.
Starting point is 02:10:13 You get your chance. Believe me, Ness just hooked you up, so check Messenger. He punched her so hard right into a happy ending for everybody. They just cut to everybody just okay.
Starting point is 02:10:29 All of a sudden, yeah, I know. It's silly. But I gave it a six. I enjoyed it. We all recommend it. Oh, Ned sent the punch. The punch. It was the leading up to it, though, that was all so great, you know?
Starting point is 02:10:47 I mean, because it's like she's being the shit out of him. And you can see just a look on his face when she's coming after him with that fucking pole again. You mean? He's like her stunt double. Yeah. Because that was clearly not her. Yeah. But you can see, like, the look on his face is.
Starting point is 02:11:05 great. He's like, fuck this. Catches it. Enough. Luckily, Cheyenne survived to back up his story. That's true. I was like, oh, that's definitely going to make it worse.
Starting point is 02:11:24 And that must have been a soft punch because she had no marks on her face. Nose wasn't bleeding, lip wasn't bleeding, mouth wasn't bleeding. Even though she flew 20 feet through the air. She definitely. had a concussion.
Starting point is 02:11:37 Well, it was the force, the force from the merry-go-round. There it is. Yeah. He was a central force. Those sheets and rags or whatever they were did break her fall. That's true.
Starting point is 02:11:51 All right, let's move on to Fear, 1996. When Nicole met David, handsome, charming, affectionate, he was everything. It seemed perfect. But soon, she sees that David has a darker
Starting point is 02:12:07 side and his adoration turns to obsession, their dream into a nightmare and her love into fear. Director James Foley, also known for Glenn Gary, Glenn Ross. What the fuck?
Starting point is 02:12:23 That's a classic movie, man, about sales. That was the original boiler room movie. Oh, man, it seems like I should have seen that. I was in sales for a while. Glenn Gary, what was that? Glenn Gehry, Glenn Ross. Did you guys see, um, the hell is that Kevin Smith?
Starting point is 02:12:41 Zach and Mary make a porno? Of course. Yeah. But that one scene when Seth is talking to, um, Brandon St. Randy. And when he was telling him what, what kind of movies he made? Right. And, um, he was all he made, uh, porn films.
Starting point is 02:12:58 And he goes, oh, he told him, he goes, well, he said he would make movies that are like, not really parodies or something like that and it was oh like Gary and Glenn Ross or whatever it was more like Gary and Gary and Glenn suck Ross's meaty God
Starting point is 02:13:14 that's a great name Brandy St. Randy. Shout out to him. I got to go rewatch that movie. Where's it stream? Let me, hold on. Y'all go ahead. I'm sorry.
Starting point is 02:13:32 It was on Netflix. I don't know if it is. there anymore. All right. Let me check it out. Well, the director James, uh, James Foley is also known for 50 shades freed. So there's a too. It's on tooby now, by the way. 50 shades? No, Zach and Mary. Oh. Commercials and all. All right. That's all right. During the movie, uh, anytime David or Nicole say, I love you to the other, uh, the other never says it back. Oh.
Starting point is 02:14:04 Just, I know. After seeing Mark Wahlberg's audition for the role of David, James Foley was so impressed that he issued an ultimatum to the producers. He said, I won't direct this movie unless he stars in it. Yeah, apparently he auditioned for one of the guys in the crew. No shit. And he was, uh, uh, uh, recommended by Leonardo DiCaprio.
Starting point is 02:14:36 Oh, wow. They did a basketball diaries together, and he told the director, let him audition. He auditioned for a different role, and then he ended up being the star of the movie. Huh. Well, this is definitely Mark Wahlberg at his Marky Marcus. Marky Markiest. Yeah, this is in the Marky Mark era. This movie is definitely 90s, too.
Starting point is 02:15:02 All right, Lance, what did you think about fear? Let me go first because I didn't get to watch it. I've seen this before. Oh, no. I have it. It's back here somewhere. I've seen the movie. Dude, you have every movie.
Starting point is 02:15:18 Yeah, I love this movie. I thought it was an awesome film, but I haven't seen it in a while. But I thought for, because, yeah, the previous roles he had done, he wasn't the main guy, but for him, coming out in this i don't think i really knew who wreath wetherstone was at this time okay academy award winner uh reese withers she was like 18 when this movie was made too right she's got a fucking forehead on her yeah she does but i thought he he sold this role good he was a good crazy psycho boyfriend and uh the part that really uh comes to me um what's his name uh her her dad um not wired erp uh what was his name in young guns too um oh uh i was thinking a manhunter
Starting point is 02:16:13 the guy hunt the guy that was hunting down billy yeah the guy that killed pat garrett yeah okay pat garrett um i've always liked him yeah ever since a manhunter um but uh that scene when um when her dad was talking to marky mark and he just started hitting himself yeah And just let made that big old bruise. Oh, man. Yeah, he got his at the end. But I don't know. But there's there's crazy motherfuckers out there that'll do that.
Starting point is 02:16:44 That just like, what was that girl's name in the other one? Adrian or whatever. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, there was, there's crazy people like that. Guys, gals. I mean, not just young generation. There's older people, too, that are nuts like this.
Starting point is 02:16:59 Amber hurt. Yeah. just boys and girls just be careful out there on who you choose to to have relations with but yeah man I he I thought Marky Mark did it and he's always Marky Mark to me oh yeah he he was good I really liked his role in this um he played a good cycle yep um was this the only movie where he was the bad guy well was he a bad guy and the departed. He was kind of bad in basketball
Starting point is 02:17:34 diaries. He was kind of shitty. But, I mean, it wasn't like one of the main characters. That one movie, was it invincible? No, not invincible. What was the one that was on Paramount Plus? I'm going to look at this.
Starting point is 02:17:50 The sci-fi one. The M. Night Shyamalan thing did he did? No. That was good. I don't care what anyone says. The happening was good. What? No. the one that was on Paramount Plus, that last one he did. They kept dying and coming back.
Starting point is 02:18:09 Yeah, they ripped off that Tom Cruise movie. Because they were filming that during the, when the pandemic started and everything. Yeah, infinite. Yeah, that one. Isn't that a game? I want to say, I don't know. I did like that movie. It didn't make my top ten, but it was a contender for a while.
Starting point is 02:18:30 I enjoyed it. I mean, you've ever seen it. Yeah. You didn't miss him much. But to... No, I liked it. For the character he was playing in this being this crazy psycho dude, I thought he, I thought he did a really, really good job.
Starting point is 02:18:46 At Reese Witherspoon, for me, this is the first thing that I'd seen her in. I thought she was cute and everything. But, yeah, Wired Her, Wired Her. Pat Garrett, that guy. He was the only dude that I knew in this other than Marky Mark. But I thought it was a really good movie It got his point across And I mean I always
Starting point is 02:19:05 When my daughter was growing up Her and her friends Hey we got movies to watch Yeah watch this And watch out for Watch out for weirdos like this That the act It could be gals too
Starting point is 02:19:17 Guys I mean just how they Just oh I would love you And da da da da da da And then it could be a complete nutcase So just manipulative controlling people Yeah Yeah Just gotta be careful out there man
Starting point is 02:19:29 And I felt Pat Garrett's pain, man He got his in the end But man, I don't care man I would have whipped his ass Yeah, shit went that whole Bruising up the chest thing I would have said yeah
Starting point is 02:19:41 I fucking did that Hell yeah And he's lucky that's all I did Yeah Yeah If he had just had a gun in his house That well it would have been a 30 minute movie
Starting point is 02:19:51 Yeah That one part That one part where Markie Mark Comes up to the door And he's acting all cocky and shit I would have said Come inside for a minute Yeah, no shit.
Starting point is 02:20:01 Wait, what's time? The time when he tried to show up and have tears, he was like, I want to tell you my side of the story. I was like, fuck out of here. They were siegeing the goddamn house. Yeah, for sure then, but even before that, he had a chore. I think it was what you're talking about, Ryan. He had a chance.
Starting point is 02:20:19 He could have just invited him into his home and said, all right, motherfucker. I'm going to tell him you broke in. Bye. There was no cell phones or, I don't think everyone had one all the time back then. Mark had a cell phone.
Starting point is 02:20:34 There was no camera on there, was there? Yeah, man. See, I was just a flip phone? I'll just snap it and then whooped his ass and go, I don't know what happened. Did you guys hear what the original story was supposed to be? Apparently, because you know, you get the backstory of him being
Starting point is 02:20:53 an orphanage. Apparently the original story in the movie was he was Pat Garrett's I'm just gonna because I don't know his name in a movie but he was
Starting point is 02:21:05 Pat Garrett's son oh and he was using his half sister to get back at his dad oh that's oh no
Starting point is 02:21:17 that would have been yeah for weird for obvious obvious reasons they go with that version of story
Starting point is 02:21:24 definitely more fucked up but interesting yeah William Peterson That's Pat Garrett That's his real name We'll just call him Pat Garrett
Starting point is 02:21:34 Yeah he's Pat Garrett Yeah Who wants to go I'll go Yeah I really enjoyed this I thought You know
Starting point is 02:21:44 For him being one of his Earlier movies And him You know One of his first movies starring And I thought he played The role of
Starting point is 02:21:50 Because He kind of He kind of had to play Two versions of himself That That kind of Charming You know
Starting point is 02:21:57 Oh, yeah. Basically, he played that role of the guy you wanted your daughter to bring home. Of course. He was helping out with chores. And coincidentally. And say, no, let you mother for me. Yeah. He actually, he actually was the one that wanted to meet the parents.
Starting point is 02:22:13 He didn't need to be asked. And then, you know, he would flip it instantly. And someone we didn't talk about that I thought kind of played her role pretty good, which was, you know, at first she was kind of a, a slublish. slut, but then you kind of feel sorry for her later was it Alyssa Milano. Oh, wow.
Starting point is 02:22:36 Because she was kind of fucking out there in the beginning, but then when you get the scene of them just fucking using her and passing her around and kind of Hey, this is another situation of don't put yourself in that situation. God damn it, people.
Starting point is 02:22:55 But I remember I remember this movie completely different. I thought she died. Because I thought when she, after she told, or after Risa found out about her and Markey Mark. And then him threatening her later. I thought she killed herself. For some reason, that's how I remember the movie that she died.
Starting point is 02:23:18 Well, I mean, maybe in an alternate reality again, right? But, yeah, I thought she played that role pretty good. I thought Reese did a pretty good job. You know, she kind of played that innocent, you know, trying to be, trying to be grown and, you know, make her own decisions, which, you know, turned out to be bad decisions. Yeah. A lot of bad decisions. And I thought this was a good thriller. And like I said, with the previous movie, this ended hilariously because somebody took a, somebody took a header out the window very far.
Starting point is 02:23:56 some rocks. Yeah, and he kind of Superman did on the way down, too, didn't he? It's like, he flew out the window and then landed on a rock 100 feet away. Oh, my God, man.
Starting point is 02:24:10 Yeah, that's crazy. Similar endings. Again, you chose wisely, Brian. And another piece of trivia, that scene where he's talking through the peephole and then he just loses it and he's just, let me the fucking... That was ad lit by him.
Starting point is 02:24:24 No, yeah. Okay. And I guess they originally, whoever edited the movie, cut it out. And then the director found out they cut it out. And he was like, no, put it back in because that needs to be in the movie. I think the director had a crush on Marky Mark. He probably did. Was this around the time he was doing his Calvin Klein ads?
Starting point is 02:24:46 Probably. Dropping his pants all the time. Probably. They should have taken it a step further. And Marky Mark would have probably should. should have said, I'm not doing the fucking movie unless you let the fellow hoodlums that I hang out with be the funky bunch.
Starting point is 02:25:04 Speaking of his funky bunch, that was Dave from summer school. Chainsaw, yeah, the one that got the drill to the hand. I got to go to the hospital. Who is the guy with the hair? Is he doing anything? The one
Starting point is 02:25:22 that got shot in the head. Oh, yeah. well i mean i just want to he was kind of asking for it yeah oh for sure no he he told him to go watch them not attack my girl or whatever he was trying to do up there so also true well and i you know marky mark kind of put him into that situation you know he's he's the reason their house got all fucked up and it's understandable that they would back him and go pat garrett did some work in a short amount of time in that house. Oh shit. He really did, man.
Starting point is 02:25:58 I was like, all right. Well, that seems like a relatively fair payback for the car. I was kind of like the same thing, too. I just watched the ending. He should have died. Marky Mark should have died when Reese Williston stabbed him with that pipe in the
Starting point is 02:26:15 back. Yeah. That was hilarious because his reaction again. He was like, oh. That could have punctured a lung or something. He kept on fighting when he was fighting Pat Garrett and Pat Garrett threw him out the window. Yeah, he threw him hell of far.
Starting point is 02:26:32 No shit. A problem, though, I had seen Pat Garrett's car getting demolished in the parking garage at his job. Nobody seen that happen. I thought the same exact thing. My fingers don't have security over here. Because he seemed like he worked at a pretty
Starting point is 02:26:52 big, I don't know, sales or whatever, ad agency or whatever they're held in. Yeah, I'm sure in the 90s, those parking garages in Seattle, that's where it was, right? Yeah. And should have had cameras in there. I think so. I don't know. That's Hollywood.
Starting point is 02:27:12 It moved the story along. I don't need to say, I don't even need to chime in on the movie, guys. Y'all covered it beautifully. But Alyssa Milano, who, man. Oh, yeah. At this time, I didn't know how old Reese was, so I didn't, I wasn't, but I was a idea. She had a questionable scene, too. Oh, yeah?
Starting point is 02:27:32 When she came to, because Reese wasn't answering her phone. No, not. Sorry. Reese came on the roller coaster. When Alyssa Milano came over to the house to see why she wasn't answering her phone, and she looked at her brother and was like, hey, when are you going to be old enough so I can ravage you? Yeah. I was like, what the fuck?
Starting point is 02:27:52 Yeah. Are we ever going to have a female guest on this show when we talk about these kind of movies? Because I don't know who would have came on here. Ries Switherspoon? Of course. Because Reese was born in 76, so she was of age. Alyssa Milano, she was born a year after me in 72. So she was.
Starting point is 02:28:20 Okay. she was of age I've always loved Alyssa ever since who's the boss Sam was a Mattelli or Vaselli
Starting point is 02:28:32 I can't remember the last name in that movie she gets a lot less attractive when she starts over the mouth and then we did have a scene we had to see we had to see where Pat Garrett
Starting point is 02:28:40 got a little a little questionable as she did her all bend over scene and oh boy yeah he did a little more than look because he did the head tilt.
Starting point is 02:28:53 Oh, God. Can we move on? All right. Wouldn't you? Not if that was my underage daughter's friend, no. Well, yeah, I guess if she was like 16, that's probably a bad idea.
Starting point is 02:29:06 I know we're supposed to suspend. Yeah, I know we're supposed to suspend this belief and not look at her as Melissa Milano, but. Sure. But that was a crazy scene. And then you cut to Mark Wahlberg's face and he's just smiling like,
Starting point is 02:29:20 I see what you're looking at. Wow. He was super creepy in this fucking movie, man. Mark Wolford. Like, he had this weird thing going on where he was thinking that, like, her dad was jealous of him or something because he wanted to fuck his daughter.
Starting point is 02:29:39 Yeah, it was kind of weird. And then he was, like, part with the mom. And he murdered, he murdered the friend, snapped his neck in the fucking forest. That was another funny, funny moment. I thought that was Jim Carrey at first. Which I was reading in trivia, I guess, clearly he was her gay friend. But I guess they...
Starting point is 02:30:01 They didn't say that in the 90s, too, did it? Well, to me, he clearly came off as her gay friend. But I guess originally they were supposed to mention that, but they took that out of the movie. Yeah, that sounds more like the 90s, not mentioning it. Don't ask, don't tell. Well, but like when he snapped the neck, man, Like a chicken bone. I half expected him to get up and be like,
Starting point is 02:30:26 who? I know. I don't know if I remember anything else from this movie. But I think it was a pretty good movie, man. Like they held my attention. There was definitely some tense moments. Marky Mark was an asshole. and I
Starting point is 02:30:51 overall a pretty fucking good movie for me man Nez did you already you went first yeah all right well let's do scores Nez what do you think for some questionable things in there it was goofy I mean it's the 90s
Starting point is 02:31:07 but I'll give it an 8 same as the crush I enjoyed I enjoyed this one Lance I'll give it a 6 same as the crush I liked it more than I didn't like it. Brian?
Starting point is 02:31:24 I will, just because I liked his portrayal of playing basically two different characters, kind of switching at just at a snap of a finger, you can be charming and then crazy the next. I'll give it a seven and a half. Oh, okay. Better than the crush. Wow. I know I had it.
Starting point is 02:31:47 There it is. There it is. I'm going to go back the same as The Crush and say seven again, man. Wow. Yeah, it was definitely a worth watching movie. I enjoyed myself. I watched both of these movies yesterday back to back because I had been working all week and hadn't watched anything.
Starting point is 02:32:07 And it was a really good time, man. I got to watch some movies with my wife. And that's the kind of shit that she likes to watch anyway. This movie was out of the two, this was the most 90s movie. with the music and the fucking clothes. Marky Mark with his tucked in fucking sweaters. Yeah. Hey, say hello to your mother for me.
Starting point is 02:32:34 What do you say? Your wife's pushing up on my stick. Yeah, man. Yeah. He probably should have got an ass whooping right then, dude. I can't even imagine. Yeah. Yeah, what he was saying to him when he met up, you know, that scene where he's kind of trying to have a face off with him.
Starting point is 02:32:56 Mark and Mark, he got it a little bit more than I would have let out his mouth. Yes. I know. Exactly. I know. It went, yeah, both these movies, the people let stuff go way too far. I would have went to jail because I would have whooped his ass. Yeah.
Starting point is 02:33:10 There wouldn't have been a movie, though, if he'd like some fucking 16, 17-year-old. however fucking old kid he is if he's going to start bowing up to the... It kind of seemed like he was older than that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Because he said, I was thinking about going to university of something, right?
Starting point is 02:33:31 Yeah. He was out of high school. Yeah. Because Pat Garrett's tall. And Marky Mark's a little short guy, so... Yeah, but he's... He's built, man. Right.
Starting point is 02:33:40 It don't matter, man. When you're mad and you're protected, and you're protecting your daughter... I'm fixing a whoops. some ass. Hell yeah. Out of being him and his friends up. And then he says your wife's pushing up on my stick.
Starting point is 02:33:55 Oh, yeah. Yeah, at that point if I didn't have a gun. And then we didn't even fucking mention he fucking cut the dog's head off too. I know, dude. Then I would have brought out the gun. Yeah, that's when the gun comes into play four fucking short. I know.
Starting point is 02:34:11 That little boy is traumatized for the rest of his life. And I look at the fucking dog's head off. What the hell? man. And that little boy had to run somebody over and kill him. That kid's in therapy.
Starting point is 02:34:23 Thank God. That fucker saved the goddamn day. For you younger listeners, we're old men. Don't listen to us. Leave your mom and dad's guns alone. All right. So, yeah, yeah, yeah. All right, so before we sign out, what's going on?
Starting point is 02:34:39 But know where they are just in case. Yeah, just in case. Don't touch them unless your parents are around. It's stopped more than one fucking robbery, dude. A friend of mine, had these dudes that were looking in the back of his house. He was like, I think we were 14, 15, something like that. And he stayed home from school because he had like surgery on his foot.
Starting point is 02:35:00 And these guys were trying to break into his house. And he went and grabbed his dad's empty fucking 357 and just pointed it out the window at him. And they all fucking ran. Yeah, they tend to scatter. My buddy did that. But he took his uncle's hunting rifle. Yeah. He just, he tapped on the window.
Starting point is 02:35:17 and then opened it and then he just stuck the barrel out. And they, yeah, yeah. Everybody took off. That's it. I, uh, I do keep, I do keep my gun and a gun safe at the house, not because somebody can't come in and steal it, like if they break in, but so that the grandkids don't get into it. So, yeah. Are you strapping in the house?
Starting point is 02:35:36 Responsible. Responsible gun ownership. No. I don't do that. Because, uh, I'm a little worried that here's the, here's the problem. Yeah, I get, I get a little bit hot-headed and, uh, trash. traffic sometimes. Probably better not to.
Starting point is 02:35:51 Yeah, leave that at home. Shooting out the windows or something? Leave that at old. I chilled out a lot in traffic in my old age. Yeah, that's the way to be, man. What's going on with action and wrestling, guys? Come on. We're coming back with the accountant for action.
Starting point is 02:36:08 Oh, okay. We've counted that. No, no, no. And Iron Eagle is action. Yeah. Oh, yeah, I've been waiting for Iron Eagle. The best of 1986. You guys need to get busy, man.
Starting point is 02:36:20 Come on. As far as wrestling, we missed hell in the cell. So the next one will probably be money in the bank. But me and Ness have been talking about doing some bonus stuff for wrestling. We'll give you some bonuses before that next one. That was all my fault to everyone. They're just life and everything. Yeah, more or less getting in a way, Brian.
Starting point is 02:36:41 I'll tell you in a little bit. All right. Well, as always, we want to thank you guys for listening. listening to another episode of The Horror Returns. We would love to hear your feedback and ideas. You can reach us at The Horror Returns at gmail.com. Website, easy one-stop shop, www. www. www.Thehorrorreturns.com.
Starting point is 02:37:02 How easy can that be? So we're going to check out Black Phone, or the Black Phone, next week, as well as Sinister. So, Nez, until the Horror Returns again. buy a t-shirt and good night

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